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From YouTube: Committee on Government Operations on June 18, 2019
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Docket #0671, appointment of Sammy Nabulsi as a Member of the Municipal Lobbying Commission for a term expiring January 3, 2022;
Docket #0672, appointment of Stephanie Everett as a Member of the Municipal Lobbying Commission for a term expiring January 3, 2022;
Docket #0673 appointment of Vivien Li as a Member of the Municipal Lobbying Commission for a term expiring January 3, 2022
A
These
matters
were
all
sponsored
by
Mayor
Matt
J
Walsh
referred
to
the
committee
back
on
April,
the
24th
of
2019.
In
for
background
reference.
Last
year
on
September
26
2018,
the
Boston
City
Council
passed
docket
1
1
for
8.
It's
an
ordinance
amending
chapter
2
of
the
City
of
Boston
code
ordinances
regarding
lobbyist
regulation
and
registration.
A
That
ordinance
requires
new
regulatory
practices
aimed
at
lobbying,
transparency
and
accountability
in
deferring
to
15.4
of
the
ordinance
municipal
lobbying
compliance
Commission,
comprised
of
five
commissioners,
which
include
two
at-large
in
one,
whom
is
an
attorney
with
experience
in
public
ethics
law,
all
of
whom
are
selected
by
the
mayor,
along
with
our
city
clerk
into
a
designee
of
the
City
Council
President,
or
their
designee
Council
designee.
The
purpose
of
this
commission
is
to
enforce
compliance
with
the
lobbyist
regulations
passed
by
the
City
Council
last
year.
A
Today,
joining
us
is
our
city
clerk
city
clerk,
Maureen
Feeney,
along
with
the
mayoral
appointees
Sam
inna
ball,
see
Stephanie
Everett
and
Vivien
Leigh.
This
hearing
is
streamlined
on
Boston
City,
Council
TV
and
is
also
being
recorded
on
in
broadcast
on
Comcast
channel
8,
RC
n
channel
82
Verizon
1964
in
all
hearings
are
recorded.
They
can
be
viewed
online
as
well.
A
So
unless
my
colleagues
have
any
opening
thoughts
or
comments
on
this
matter,
we
can
kind
of
get
right
into
it,
and
I
know
that
Council
fini
former
councillor
Clerk
Feeney,
has
really
been
inundated
now,
with
the
passage
of
the
ordinance
so
want
to
get
a
perspective,
I
guess
as
to
what's
working.
What's
not
working.
We
obviously
want
to
allow
our
candidates
to
introduce
themselves
as
well
and
identify
moving
forward
as
to,
if
there's
anything
that
the
committee
needs
to
do
to
adjust
or
address
to
any
of
the
concerns
that
our
clerk
will
put
forth.
A
B
B
We
began
this
process,
thinking
that
we
would
mirror
the
process
at
the
state
level
and
spend
considerable
time
with
Romero
who
runs
the
Secretary
of
State's
lobbying
division
and
Laura
Flynn
Lara
Flynn,
who
is
corporation
counsel,
and
they
were
tremendously
helpful
to
us
and
really
sort
of
guiding
us
as
we
moved
forward
to
make
sure
that
everything
was
documented.
That
and
so.
Based
on
that
information,
we
created
a
dedicated
email
where,
if
anyone
had
questions
about
registering
or
had
questions
about
the
legislation,
they
could
forward
the
questions.
B
B
Everything
is
has
the
history
of
when
the
last
time
they
filed,
and
so
we
felt
that
this
was
important
to
sort
of
make
sure
that
all
those
systems
that
we
could
create
a
process
that
would
be
able
to
fit
into
all
those
systems.
So,
as
we
speak
right
now,
the
rest
of
the
team
is
meeting
with
the
IPS
or
handsome
team
too.
B
Now
that
we've
created
the
fillable
forms
to
actually
see
how
we
connect
it
to
the
existing
systems,
I
can
tell
you
that
at
this
point
we
have
362
people
who
have
registered
many
of
them
lobbyists
some
our
entities
and
others
our
clients
14
have
not
paid.
So
we
have
348
who
have
actually
paid
and
registered
and
are
waiting
to
begin
the
reporting
process.
The
Commonwealth
Massachusetts
has
reporting
twice
a
year.
B
We
are
at
this
point.
I
will
confess
to
you.
We
are
not
ready.
Our
forms
are
ready.
We
have
created
all
the
reporting
forms
that
we
had
to
create
manually
and
we've
worked
with
the
first
half
to
get
all
fillable
forms,
so
individuals
will
be
able
to
do
this
right
online,
but,
as
I
said,
we
are
now
going
into
the
next
phase
in
connecting
that
to
all
the
systems
that
exists
now
in
the
clerk's
office.
B
B
We
have
a
lot
of
not-for-profits
in
Boston
and
we
want
to
make
sure
if
we
start
handing
out
these
waivers
that
in
fact
we
are
doing
so
as
Laura's
written
or
perhaps
as
the
law
may
be
amended,
because
I
think
the
issue
is
not
just
registering
it's
all
of
those
people
that
work
as
lobbyists
for
those
companies
do.
They
only
represent
not-for-profit.
B
So
there's
a
lot
of
paperwork
to
all
of
this
and
I
think
now
that
we
will
have
the
leadership
of
this
commission
I
know
that
was
something
that
was
brought
forth
by
the
council
and
I.
Just
think
it
was
such
a
critical
component
to
the
success
of
this
language.
So
I
don't
want
to
take
up
any
more
of
your
time.
If
you
have
questions,
I
have
a
million
answers,
but
we're
just
very
excited
about
the
Commission
coming
together
and
obviously.
A
A
We're
gonna
need
that
information
if
we
need
to
make
some
amendments
and
adjustments
on
our
side,
and
the
only
question
I
have
on
behalf
of
the
committee
is
how
do
you
see
the
Commission
functioning
in
terms
of
roles
and
responsibilities
and
meeting
frequency?
Has
many
of
those
issues
been
discussed?
Well.
B
B
Don't
know
where
we
are
in
that
process,
but
as
this
is
unfolded,
I
think
that
I
also
would
like
to
work
as
a
member
of
the
Commission
to
look
at
some
of
the
questions
that
we've
received,
because
because
of
some
of
the
vagueness-
or
you
know,
the
law
is
silent
to
something
it's
it's
sometimes
difficult
to
interpret
what
the
intent
was
so
I
think
we
may
need.
You
know
to
sort
of
tighten
the
language
a
bit
and
I
think
that
will
really
help
so
I'm,
hoping
that
that
will
be
a
role
of
the
the
Commission.
B
A
C
B
So
the
waiver
itself
is
only
for
the
lobbyist
and
well
lobbying
entity,
but
then
is
the
lobbying
entity
registers
so
in
each
of
these
forms.
So
these
are
the
sets
of
reporting.
You
know
that
we
have
to
do,
and
so
the
end
to
the
lobbyist
doesn't
report
money.
It
reports,
issues
and
clients.
The
entity
is
really
the
one
that
will
be
most
impacted
by
this
because
many
of
these
companies
ml
strategies-
let's
just
say,
I
kind
of
imagine
how
many
lobbyists
they
have
working
for
them.
B
Obviously
they
would
not
be
a
not-for-profit,
but
they
will
each
one
of
those
lobbyists
have
to
register
separately.
So,
even
though
you
have
the
entity,
each
entity
has
to
have
the
individual
lobbyists
register.
So
for
some
of
these
companies
this
is
it's
going
to
be
heavy
lift
so,
but
it's
the
waiver
is
strictly
for
it.
C
B
Right
so
so
here's
the
thing
you
know
the
issues
are
going
to
change.
Quarter-To-Quarter
I
mean
some
things.
Maybe
you
know
for
the
whole
year,
but
very
often
you
know,
City
Hall
tends
to
move
a
little
in
a
you
know.
A
faster
pace
in
terms
of
you
know,
we
get
a
piece
of
legislation,
have
hearings,
do
what
we're
doing
and
then
pass
it.
Where
is
it
the
Statehouse?
You
would
have
people
perhaps
reporting
and
they
may
report
for
a
year
a
year
and
a
half.
B
You
know
because
they
tend
to
have
like
the
two
year
budget,
and
so
it's
just
a
slightly
different
system.
So
each
reporting
period
it
could
be
different.
They
may
have
a
different
client.
That
client
may
not
be
a
not-for-profit.
Therefore
they
wouldn't
be
eligible
for
the
waiver.
So
this
when
I
say
this
is
a
heavy-lift.
B
B
B
So
dad
doesn't
count,
you
know
you.
Can
you
don't
have
to
report
that
because
they
had
those
thresholds,
there
are
no.
There
is
no
threshold
language
here,
so
you
have
a
conversation
with
someone.
Do
you
I
mean
if
some
of
the
questions
we've
gotten
are
really
interesting?
You
know
one
company,
they
don't
lobby
the
city,
but
they
work,
it's
actually
a
Cambridge
company
and
they
work
with
the
city
once
something
is
approved
to
work
on
the
process.
But
he
said
we
don't
lobby
that
department.
It's
just.
B
We
get
retained
to
work
the
process
because
that's
what
we
do
and
those
are
the
services
they
render,
but
it's
after
a
project
has
been
approved
and
you
know
funded,
and
so
it's
it's
a
little.
You
know
complicated
because
there
are
no
thresholds
here
and
any
conversation
could
be
viewed
as
loving
so.
C
In
you
may
name,
you
may
need
to
say
that
everything's
great
Maureen
and
if
you
do
I'm
fine
with
that,
but
as
far
as
implementing
in
operations,
what
do
you
have
for
staff?
What
do
you
see
as
your
staffing
needs
to
move
forward
on
this,
because
if,
if
all
the
way
down
to
all
the
way
down
to
an
addition,
is
gonna
need
to
need
to
register
you're
gonna
be
flooded.
So
what
and
again,
if
everything's
perfect
it's
perfect,
but
right.
B
B
Because
everything
in
our
office
is
statutorily
created,
as
you
know,
along
with
business
certificates
and
physician
certificates,
domestic
partnerships,
all
claims
get
filed
with
us,
tress
get
filed
with
us.
We
also
do
public
notices
now
in
any
given
day,
especially
budget
season.
You
could
have
I,
don't
know
how
many
public
notices
that
get
amended
or
the
the
information
the
agenda
gets
changed
so
because,
under
the
Open
Meeting
Law
it's
as
long
as
it's
publicly
notice
within
that
48
hours,
you
can
change
the
agenda.
B
So
our
problem
is
everything
is
time-sensitive
everything
like
all
of
our
mail
that
comes
in
gets
processed.
On
the
same
day,
once
we
put
that
stamp
that
it
has
been
received
by
the
clerk's
office,
it
gets
processed.
So
you
know
I
know
someone
at
some
point
said:
oh
I
need
an
attorney.
I,
don't
think
we
need
an
attorney
I
think
you
know
what
the
Commission
will
have
sufficient
support
there.
The
law
department
has
been
very
gracious.
Trying
to
you
know
answer
as
many
questions
as
possible.
C
B
Always
busy
we,
you
know
and
thank
God.
We
have
patty
with
me
and
he's
been
doing
weddings
for
the
last
couple
of
years,
because
we
just
don't
even
schedule,
because
we
just
have
so
much
work
and
everything
has
to
be
done
within
that
time
frame.
So
if
I
could
possibly
have
just
an
individual,
you
know
not
I
don't
need
someone
that
would
be.
You
know
such
a
high
price
tag
as
an
attorney,
but
if
I
could
have
someone
that
could
help
a
little
bit
with
the
paperwork.
B
That
would
be
really
helpful
because
one
of
the
things
that
when
we
with
the
state,
they
were
very
adamant
about
you
know
they
said
you
know
in
other
cities
and
towns,
because
it's
a
lot.
They
don't
always
really
review
them
as
closely
as
possible,
and
what
both
Murray
and
Laurie
said
to
us
is.
You
know
this
is
new
legislation
for
the
city
of
Boston.
You
need
to
make
sure
that
you
review
the
lobbyists
the
entity
and
the
client.
They
are
reporting
the
same
amount.
They
are.
B
One
of
the
things
that
we
did
do
and
we
upgraded
to
individuals
in
our
department
to
take
this
on
because
they're
people
that
deal
with
legislation,
so
it
was
sort
of
like
a
natural
fit,
but
they
also
are
the
lead
people
for
the
public,
notices
and
raffles.
That's
another
thing.
You
know
all
these
things
that
happen.
So
you
know
they're
up
to
the
task
and
we've
been
trying
to
train
them
as
we
go
along
and,
of
course,
we're
very,
very
anxious
about
the
July
20th
date,
because
that's
when
the
reporting
begins.
C
I
am
I
still
okay,
mr.
chair,
so
with
the
nonprofits,
or
maybe
the
advocacy
groups,
whether
it's
whatever
the
advocacy
group
is,
and
they
have
paid
advocates,
people
that
have
paid
on
staff
that
that
are
organizing
and
filling
rooms
up
with
people
and
that
sort
of
do
those
paid
people
have
to
register.
Well.
B
It's
paid
or
non
paid,
so
you
don't
have
to
be
compensated.
Thoughtful
lobbying
if
you
are
no,
don't
follow
a
few
jeers
yeah.
So
that
is
the
other
piece
of
this.
So
it's
not
a
case
of
you
know.
Stephanie
is
lobbying
for
me
and
I
pay
her
a
certain
amount.
No,
it
is
whether
you
are
paid
or
not
paid,
and
that's
why
this
commission
working
I
think
with
Corporation
Counsel
is
really
going
to
help
us
to
give
this
a
better
shape,
because
at
this
point
everyone
that
walks
into
this
building
would
you
have
to
register.
B
If
you
would
read
this
loosely
I
know,
that's
not
the
intent,
but
I
do
think
you
know.
We've
had
a
lot
of
pushback
and
I'm
sorry
I'm,
taking
so
much
time
they
feel
guilty,
but
we've
had
a
lot
of
pushback
from
attorneys
who
represent
people
at
the
board
of
appeal.
It's
a
publicly
notice
meeting
which
speaks
to
in
this
language.
It's
a
publicly
notice
meeting
the
decisions
are
made
in
public
should
their
attorneys
do
they
have
to
register
as
lobbyists?
B
C
C
Maybe
overzealous
prosecutors,
what
do
I
do
to
print
what?
What
should
I
be
looking
at
to
protect
myself
so
I
just
stopped
meeting
with
people
yeah
they're,
coming
in
on
a
big
on
a
big
development
project.
I,
don't
know
what
it's
kind
of
mean:
no
I'm,
not
meeting
with
anything.
That's
probably
the
best
thing.
We
know
just
stop
meeting
with
people,
so
so
what?
What
does
this
mean
for
me
as
an
elected
just
keep
meeting
with
people
or
give
them
the
vanilla
version
of
everything?
D
Office
would
just
need
to
confirm
that
they
actually
registered
lobbyists
because
in
your
you're
covered
because
they've
already
registered
you're
an
elected
official,
it
is
your
job
to
carry
out
the
business
of
the
city.
I,
don't
think
that's
the
concern
you
have
individually,
the
the
office
of
Frank
thinker.
We
just
need
to
contact
the
clerk's
office
or
I
believe
there's
a
system
that
you
have
access
to
just
to
confirm
that
they
are
registered
lobbyists.
C
D
Don't
know
if
you
need
to
ask
if
it's
something
like
your
neighbor
wants
to
expand
their
sidewalk
yeah
I
have
not
memorized
the
legislation
yet,
but
I
believe
that
these
are
the
questions
that,
when
we
were
speaking
earlier
before,
the
meeting
started
that
there
were
a
lot
of
things
that
we
still
need
to
kind
of
pull
out
of
the
legislation
and
make
clear
and
we'll
do
that
through
regulations.
Just
so
that
some
of
these
questions
that
you
have
and
even
I
have
been
listening
to
what
you're
saying
it's
clear
that
we
need.
D
We
have
some
work
to
do,
and
luckily
we
have
someone
who
used
to
work
for
corporations
Department
to
help
us
spearhead
that.
But
I
do
think
that
we
we
have
some
work
to
do
and
I
think
all
the
questions
that
you're
asking
are
actually
appropriate
and
you
know
we
I,
don't
I,
don't
lobby
at
all,
but
I.
There
are
people
who
will
call
me
and
just
ask
me
who
do
I
talk
to
is
that
is.
B
C
C
D
C
C
B
C
Mean
thresholds
like
if
someone's
coming
in
and
they
have
a
billion
dollar
program.
Absolutely
we
want
to
know
exactly,
but
I
think
I
think
this
is
a
little
it's
a
little
bit
feel
good
in
in
it's
about
headlines
and
we're
good
government,
but
that's
a
whole
nother
sidetrack.
Can
we
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
I'm
still
okay?
Mr.
Chia,
can
we
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
role
of
the
board?
What
do
you
guys
have
to
have
to
kind
of
build
this
from
the
ground
up?
A
Me
go:
that's
probably
a
good
segue,
just
obviously
introduce
mechanists
and
then,
instead
of
doing
it
to
occupy
docket,
we'll
just
take
all
three
candidates
together
and
obviously
continue
to
have
a
fluid
conversation.
Madam
clerk
remembers
that
we
had
the
dilemma
we
had
was.
We
were
faced
with
either
a
home
row
petition
endure
an
ordinance,
the
home
row
petition
or
at
least
how
it
works
for
the
Statehouse
didn't
necessarily
sort
of
apply
to
how
we
do
business
here
in
the
city.
A
However,
the
infrastructure,
the
compliance,
the
regulations
were
all
in
place,
so
it
wasn't
necessarily
a
plug-and-play.
We
decided
to
sort
of
do
an
ordinance
that
we
felt
was
more
germane
to
the
City
of
Boston.
However,
we
didn't
have
sort
of
the
infrastructure
of
the
history,
the
regulation
piece
of
it
and
that's
probably
where
we're
all
struggling.
So
in
retrospect,
you
know
six
one
happen
as
though
we
may
have
wanted
to
let
it
go
the
Home
Rule
petition
route
because
there's
infrastructure
there,
but
and
then
try
to
tweak
it.
A
If
you
will
so
sort
of
here,
we
are
today
and
which
it's
helpful,
obviously,
that
the
clerk
is
starting
to
see
things
and
you
three
folks
will,
in
your
capacity,
will
assist
in
that
effort
to
give
us
some
of
that
feedback
and
the
tools
that
and
the
resources
that
we
need
to
maybe
make
some
amendments,
which
is
to
the
point
that
the
council
Baker
is
making.
So
I'll
speak
for
myself.
A
Obviously,
knowing
all
three
of
you
personally,
your
your
commitment
to
the
city
has
been
tremendous,
knowing
you
all
in
both
a
personal
and
professional
capacity,
so
all
very
well
suited
to
serve
in
this
capacity
in
role
on
behalf
of
the
mayor
and
on
behalf
of
sort
of
this
new
world
of
the
lobbying
ordinance
that
we
have
in
the
City
of
Austin,
so
I'm
satisfied
based
on
I
have,
with
the
resumes
that
I
hear.
My
colleagues
will
be
here
to
ask
any
very
specific
questions.
A
The
question
right
out
of
the
gate
council
Baker
mentioned,
is
sort
of
I.
Guess
how
do
you
what
your
understanding,
I
guess
of
the
role,
the
Commission,
how
you
intend
tend
to
sort
of
carry
that
function
out
and
I
also
know
that
I
think
one
was
set
aside
for
the
attorney
with
the
experience
in
public
ethics
law.
I
know
that
I'm
staring
at
two
out
of
three
of
you
are
attorneys,
both
Stephanie
and
in
Sammy.
Is
anyone
who
sort
of
carrying
that
mantra
is
the
one
with
the
public
ethics
law
experience
I'm.
A
D
I've
done
more,
both
like
a
candidate
side
as
well
as
well.
You
know:
I've
worked
in
I
worked
in
the
SE
for
12
years,
so
I've
had
to
do
a
lot
of
this
training
working
and
my
first
job
with
the
state
was
that
massport
and
the
attorney
I
worked
for
ended
up
being
the
state
ethics
commissioner
Karen
Ober.
D
A
This
commission,
all
of
you,
will
be
a
case
of
first
impression.
It's
the
very
first
one
form
so
I
guess
the
duties,
the
roles,
the
responsibilities,
the
frequency
of
meetings
will
probably
be
left
to
the
Commission
and
to
the
clerk
and
so
I.
Don't
if
you
have
any
initial
thoughts
as
to
how
you
guys
sort
of
perceive
it
coming
to
light
you
can
you
have
the
floor
to
say
that
animal
get
some
questions
and
answers
so
yeah.
E
E
I
think
things
that
need
to
be
covered.
There
certainly
needs
to
be
clarification
on
some
of
the
issues
that
you
raise:
councilor
Baker.
What
falls
under
lobbying
activity
I,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
that
I
read
the
ordinance
to
say
that
any
communication
to
an
elected
official
triggers
lobbying,
but
that
will
require
some
clarification
from
the
lobbying
Commission.
I.
E
Think
that
there
needs
to
be
a
process
developed
for
what
does
the
investigation
enforcement
look
like
making
sure
too
provide
an
opportunity
for
nonprofits
lobbying
entities,
lobbyists
and
clients
to
make
their
arguments
before
the
city
takes
any
enforcement
action
and
then,
finally,
what
does
enforcement
look
like
you
guys
know
better
than
I?
Do
municipal
enforcement
is
very
tough,
unfortunately,
under
our
system
of
government
to
sets
on
unless
the
state
gives
the
City
of
Boston
the
authority
to
find
directly
enforcement,
especially
fine
collection
is
very
difficult
for
the
city
and
so
I.
E
We
can
actually
collect
fines
or
take
any
other
appropriate
action
that
the
ordinance
provides
for
and
then
certainly
after
that,
there
I
think
the
Commission
can
be
very
effective,
working
with
the
clerk's
office
again
and
then
educating
people
on
what
the
regulations
are
and
what
the
ordinance
says
so
I
think
you
know
if
I
were
to
summarize
what
is
the
role
of
Commission.
This
is
just
my
opinion.
I
think
it
is
you're
making
I
think
it's
education
and
enforcement.
Okay.
D
Disagree
with
that
I
think
part
of
my
biggest
part,
for
me,
I
think,
is
the
education.
Just
there
are
so
many
questions
I'm.
Having
a
frequently
asked
question
section
that
would
alleviate
some
of
the
stress
from
the
clerk's
office.
I
know
that
councillor
Baker
was
talking
about
whether
or
not
there
was
enough
support.
I
think
that
if
we
do
our
job
effectively,
we
can
eliminate
some
of
the
calls
that
the
clerk's
office
may
receive
and
just
hoping
to
create
a
process
that
works
really
well
and
streamlined.
D
Some
of
the
information
that
is
coming
into
the
clerk's
office
that
actually
could
be
answered.
Other
places
I
know
that
there's
an
application
started,
but
just
looking
at
that,
so
I
do
agree
that
we
are
about
education,
the
rules
and
the
enforcement
and
I
think
the
biggest
way
that
we
can
make
sure
that
the
enforcement
piece
is
not
the
biggest
job
we
have
is
making
sure
that
the
education
piece
is
actually
a
priority.
D
So
when
we're
doing
any
regulations
that
we
make
sure
that
those
regulations
actually
have
education
in
them,
so
that
people
are
not
asking
your
office
of
the
clerk's
office
or
any
of
us
questions
that
we
know
the
answer
to
really
quickly,
but
we
should
have
actually
spelled
them
out
a
little
bit
more
than
regulation.
So
people
wouldn't
know
so
questions
about
whether
or
not
the
sidewalk
are
you
asking
me?
Are
you
informing
me
I
think
those
are
the
frequently
asked
questions?
F
It's
a
non-attorney
I
actually
have
a.
It
was
okay.
If
I
read
a
statement,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
be
before
you
today.
The
lobbyists
registration
and
regulation
ordinance
is
an
important
measure
in
ensuring
continued
good
government
and
greater
transparency
in
lobbyists.
Activities
on
the
local
level.
I
am
honored
to
be
considered
for
the
municipal
lobbying
compliance
Commission,
which
will
promulgate
regulations
for
the
administration
of
the
ordinance,
as
well
as
help
to
ensure
compliance.
I
will
approach
the
important
work
of
the
Commission
from
two
perspectives.
F
As
someone
who
has
been
part
of
administrative
bodies,
but
also
someone
who
has
been
subjected
to
public
disclosure
regulations,
this
is
the
inaugural
municipal
lobbying
compliance
commission
and
over
the
years,
I
have
served
in
different
capacities
in
first-time
efforts.
I
served
for
fifteen
years
of
the
Massachusetts
Senate
presence
designee
on
mass
developments,
brownfields
advisory
group,
including
since
its
inception
over
that
15-year
period.
F
When
I
served
the
special
assistant
to
the
Massachusetts
Commission
of
public
health,
we
developed
the
first
regulations
in
the
country
which
limit
which
limited
pesticide
levels
and
Apple
products
such
as
apple
juices,
products
like
this
epidemiological
study,
showed
the
children,
particularly
younger
children,
consume
a
large
amount
of
Apple
products
and
the
pesticides
levels
are
disproportionately
concentrated
in
their
bodies
because
of
their
small
size.
The
standard
which
we,
the
staff
recommended
and
subsequently
adopted
by
the
state's
Public
Health
Council,
became
the
national
standard
that
accompanies
follow.
F
I
myself
have
been
subjected
to
reporting
regulations
in
the
interest
of
transparency.
As
a
member
of
governor
michael
dukakis
is
senior
staff,
I
was
required
to
file
detailed
annual
financial
disclosure
reports,
including
information
about
stocks,
mortgages
loans,
real
estate
and
similar
information.
As
a
board,
member
of
Eastern
Bank
I
had
to
file
annual
disclosure
of
financial
information,
known
only
for
myself,
but
also
my
adult
children,
who,
at
the
time
were
in
college
between
2015
and
2018.
I
headed
up
river
life.
F
A
not-for-profit
organization
in
Pittsburgh,
which
used
federal
state
and
local
lobbyist
arghhhh
River
life
is
subjected
to
detailed
filing
requirements
with
the
Commonwealth
of
Pennsylvania.
When
one
of
my
staff
persons
left
to
take
another
job
in
2017,
River
life's
attorney,
recommended
that
I
register
as
our
organization's
municipal
lobbyist
and
so
I
was
for
a
five-month
period
before
I
returned
in
May
of
2018
to
Boston
to
be
with
family
in
declining
health.
F
As
an
aside,
I
just
want
to
mention
that
in
Pittsburgh
municipal
lobbyists
pay
an
annual
fee
of
$100
and
surprisingly,
do
not
have
to
file
any
type
of
annual
report.
In
contrast
to
the
Pittsburgh
experience,
I
want
to
share
with
you
something
which
I
voluntarily
initiated
as
a
member
of
the
Boston
Conservation
Commission
starting
more
than
15
years
ago.
Although
not
required
to
do
so.
I
would
say
at
the
start
of
every
individual
hearing
and
a
meeting
could
have
more
than
one
hearing,
sometimes
as
many
as
eight
or
ten
I
would
always
say.
G
Thank
You
counsel,
fiery
and
first
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
Cork
Feeney
for
her
excellent
leadership
on
this
important
issue,
and
this
commission
is
in
great
hands
under
the
leadership
of
Clara.
Feeney
and
I
had
a
chance
to
review
the
free
resumes,
but,
more
importantly
than
that
IAD
chance
over
many
years
to
interact
with
the
three
nominees
and
they
were
very
committed
to
the
City
of
Boston
dedicated
to
the
residents
of
Boston,
great
education
backgrounds.
Work
experience
so
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
supporting
this
when
it
comes
out.
Mr.
G
A
H
Morning,
good
afternoon,
everyone
I'm
sorry
I,
missed
the
earlier
comments.
I
actually
know
the
three
of
your
backgrounds
very
well
and
have
known
you
in
various
capacities.
Thank
you,
madam
clerk,
for
all
of
the
work
that
you
are
putting
in
we've
been
trying
to
get
you
more
support
even
to
do
that
work.
I
guess.
My
one
question
was
around
involvement
with
other
City
or
municipal
Tootie's.
You
know,
for
example,
I
know
Sammy.
We
were
just
having
a
similar
conversation
around
bid.
Alright,
could
the
three
of
you
just
specify?
H
F
H
I
guess
it's
just
a
question
that
I'm
trying
to
think
through
of
I
know.
You
know
you
all
are
so
talented
and
I
again
have
worked
with
you
and
relied
on
Sammy
for
legal
advice
when
you
were
in
the
building.
So
it's
not
about
you
as
individuals,
but
I'm.
Just
and
again,
I'm
not
saying
I
have
a
position
one
way
or
the
other,
but
thinking
about
the
lobbying
Commission
as
a
place.
H
That's
supposed
to
be
totally
insulated
from
the
other
business
of
the
city
and
whether
they're,
whether
it
makes
sense
to
have
the
kind
of
ties
to
even
other
commissions.
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
thoughts
on
that
I'm
just
trying
to
sort
through
that
as
I
see
you
here
today
about
you,
know
your
role
as
being
kind
of
the
arbiter
of
what
qualifies
or
not,
and
how
does
that
interact
if
you
might
be
also
interacting
with
people
who
are
trying
to
work
with
bid
for
the
Employment
Commission
or.
D
Well,
for
the
Employment
Commission,
it's
the
the
projects
are
already
underway.
I'm
I,
don't
have
any
say
that
something
done
through
the
VRA.
So
there's
no
lobbying
that
happens
with
me.
They
actually
just
the
companies
come
in
and
they
will
pull
it
on
their
goals
that
they're
supposed
to
be
attaining.
So
there
is
no
special
treatment
that
they're
asking
me
for
I'm,
just
making
sure
that
the
contract
that
they
signed
up
for
that
they're
following
I,
don't
see
it
as
a
role
where
I'm
not
helping
to
create
anything
different.
D
A
lot
of
that
work
is
done
on
the
front
end
at
the
VRA
office
and
we're
more
of
the
enforcement
arm
to
just
make
sure
so.
I
don't
see
it
as
a
conflict
at
all,
mainly
because
I'm
not
dealing
with
the
entities
who
are
trying
to
put
in
an
RFP
in
they're
waiting
to
see.
What's
going
to
happen,
the
VRA
has
no
say
on
my
commission.
My
commission
is
strictly
for
me
just
to
do
it's
really.
An
enforcement
Commission.
E
So
you
know,
first
and
foremost,
I
will
defer
to
the
council
on
the
appropriateness
of
whether
anyone,
including
myself,
should
serve
on
on
more
than
one
commission,
especially
where
you
want
the
municipal
lobbying
commission
to
function
independently
as
I've
sold.
Many
people
I'll
serve
wherever
you
want
me
to
serve
and
I
stay
committed
to
that.
What
would
I
do
if
a
scenario
came
up
so
number
one
I
mean
I,
understand
and
and
I
have
not
yet
been
sworn
in
to
the
Boston
Industrial
Development
financing
Authority.
E
But
once
if
that
happens,
and
once
that
happens,
my
understanding
is
the
way
it
functions
is
typically
in
interactions
with
with
entities
that
are
seeking
financing
through
the
conduit
entity
bid
feh
a
lot
of
those
interactions
are
done
at
the
staff
level,
with
Bill
Nickerson
and
the
various
folks
that
work
with
him.
The
role
of
the
board
is
to
obviously
approve
any
transactions
that
are
presented
by
staff
and
so
I,
don't
know
that
there
will
be
day-to-day
interactions.
E
That
being
said,
I
did
and
I
stated
in
front
of
this,
this
council
at
that
hearing
that
one
of
the
things
that
I'd
like
to
do
as
a
member
of
bid
file
is
to
increase
outreach,
and
that
may
involve
me
speaking
directly
to
entities
that
could
benefit
from
the
low-cost
financing
of
bid
file.
If
there
ever
was
a
case
of
actual
conflict
or
even
the
appearance
of
conflict
I.
Would
a
hundred
percent
disclose
that
in
writing
and
recuse
myself
from
any
enforcement
decisions
on
the
municipal
lobbying
commission,
yeah.
H
H
E
And
to
add
to
that
I
mean
you
bring
up
a
particular
situation,
which
I
think
is
a
good
example.
You
know
number
one
I
mean
I.
Do
not
think
that
it
would
be
appropriate
for
anyone
who
has
business
in
front
of
bid
fo
to
communicate
with
individual
board
members
outside
of
a
public
meeting
anyways.
So
then
flip
that
over
and
bring
it
to
the
municipal
ordinance.
The
ordinance
does
exempt
from
lobbying
activities.
E
Participation
on
behalf
of
a
client
at
a
publicly
noticed
meeting.
So
you
know
I,
I,
think,
ordinarily,
when
the
situation
could
come
up,
I
think
it's
dealt
with.
I
think
we'd
still
take
the
added
precaution
of
disclosure
and
recusal,
but
you
know
I
would
say,
as
a
as
a
as
a
baseline
I
do
think
that
individuals
could
not
reach
out
to
me
and
my
capacity
as
a
board
member
on
bid
file
outside
of
a
public
meeting.
Dude.
E
Don't
know
if
it's
a
policy,
a
bid,
Falls
say
it's:
it's
a
policy
that
I
always
counsel.
My
boards
and
commissions
on
which
you
know
I
I,
do
think
it's
a
if
a
boarder
Commission
is
going
to
make
a
determination
on
any
application
before
I,
always
counsel
against
any
member.
That
has
to
take
a
vote
on
that
from
holding
any
ex
parte
meetings
or
communications
with
those
applicants.
Yeah.
H
So
I
think
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
a
conversation
chairman
about
is
it
that
big
fund
needs
a
separate
policy,
or
is
it
that
the
council
needs
to
think
about
what
the
overlap
is
between
the
lobbying
commission
and
others
again
I?
If
there's
anyone
that
I
know
could
sort
out
what,
when
to
recuse
them,
whether
it's
Sammy,
because
you've
helped
advise
me
on
this
stuff
in
in
this
role.
But
it's
just
the
perception
of
if
the
lobbying
Commission
is
supposed
to
be
here
as
this
entity.
C
D
A
But
but
they
also,
you
know,
have
been
known
sort
of
put
the
hard
sell
on,
and
we
saw
this
council
whether
it
was
through
the
Airbnb
issue,
where
the
short-term
rentals
had
were
loaded
up
with
lobbyists
and
obviously
area
residents
came
in.
The
council
sided
with
the
residents
of
the
city
over
the
sort
of
high-powered
hired
guns
very
similar
to
the
the
pipeline
issue
over
in
West
Roxbury,
where
the
utility
companies
come
in
high-powered
and
rare
and
ready
to
go.
A
You
know
a
lot
of
our
groups
and
organizations
here
in
Boston
again
doing
great
work,
but
they
they
come
here
pretty
regularly
and
and
they
have
an
agenda
and
they
have
items
on
their
list
and
they
have
people
that
they
need
to
see,
and
there
are
votes
that
come
forward
that
pertain
to
initiatives
in
legislation
that
they
are
pushing.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
this
was
all-encompassing,
that
you
know
we
were
catching
them
as
well
as
also
catching.
You
know
the
high-powered.
A
You
know
lobbyists
that's
out
there
as
well
so
know
so
food
for
thought.
You
know
when
you're
sort
of
taking
a
look
at
applicants
or
proponents
that
you
know
nonprofits,
particularly
in
Boston,
are
pretty
savvy
and
skilled
at
what
they
do
and
and
they're
not
bashful
about
coming
down
here,
knocking
on
doors
making
phone
calls
and
as
they
should
advocating
for
their
position,
advocating
for
the
ik
Lion
T
and/or
their
clientele
of
folks
that
they're
serving
that
they're,
an
equal
partner,
I.
Think
in
this
discussion
as
well.
So
any
final
thoughts
on
the
three
candidates.
A
So
so,
obviously
we'll
look
look
forward
to
putting
a
committee
report
together,
we'll
take
into
consideration
obviously
Council
Woo's
issue
that
she
had
addressed
and
then
again
the
resumes
speak
for
themselves
as
to
your
commitment
to
our
city
and
your
willingness
to
serve
that's
a
big
piece
of
this.
So
thank
you
for
putting
yourselves
out
there
and
for
being
willing
to
serve
in
this
capacity.
A
A
That's
stopping
you
at
an
event
wants
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
the
proposal
or
their
program,
or
they
may
have
a
something
before
the
city
and
some
capacity
that
they'd
like
to
be
heard
on
it,
and
you
know
what
can
and
can't
we
do
so.
You
know
we
want
to
you're
gonna
help
us
sign
out
a
lot
of
those
details
as
well.
So
so
there's
anything
further
from
my
colleagues.
Any
additional
comments
or
suggestions,
counsel,
just.
H
A
Madam
clerk
Sam
uniball
see
Stephanie
Everett
and
Vivian
Lee
with
respect
to
docket
zero,
six,
seven
one
zero,
six,
seven
two
and
zero
six
seven
three,
which
is
it's
there,
are
the
appointments
for
members
of
the
municipal
lobbying
Commission
for
a
term
expiring,
January
3rd
of
2022,
the
Committee
on
governor
operations
is
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Thank.