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Docket #0233 - Petition for a Special Law re: An Act Relative to the Zoning Board of Appeal
B
A
D
B
E
B
B
B
B
All
right
so
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
get
started.
We
got
a
lot
of
work
before
us
so
mm-hmm
good
afternoon.
Everyone
I'm,
City,
Council
Lydia
Edwards
share
the
GUP
of
the
Committee
on
government
operations.
It's
Tuesday
July
14th
and
we
are
here
today.
Excuse
me
sorry,
my
head:
it
is
Thursday
July
16th,
twenty
twenty
twenty
and
we're
here
today
for
a
virtual
working
session
on
docket
zero.
Three,
oh
sorry
open
up
the
wrong
opening
statements.
Sorry
Christy
and
I
apologize.
B
B
Everyone
get
the
Sullivan
in
Worcester
report,
though.
In
the
meantime,
no
that's
okay.
That
was
not
included
in
the
original
documents,
but
I
feel.
If
we're
gonna
refer
to
it,
we
should
have
that
all
right.
Second,
take
good
morning,
everyone,
I'm
City,
Council
idiot
Edwards
I'm,
the
chair
of
Government
Committee,
on
government
ops
today
is
Thursday
July
16th
and
we're
here
today
for
a
virtual
working
session
on
docket
zero,
two
three
three
petition
for
a
special
law
regarding
an
act
relative
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals.
A
B
Committee
held
a
hearing
on
this
matter
in
February
25th,
in
accordance
with
governor
Baker's
executive
order
from
March
12th,
we're
modifying
the
requirements
for
open
meeting
law
and
therefore
we're
having
this
working
session
virtually
be
assumed.
This
enables
us
to
continue
our
out
our
responsibilities
while
adhering
to
public
health
accommodations.
You
can.
B
B
B
But
this
is
a
working
session
and
so
we're
gonna
get
to
the
work
of
that
and
the
goal
is
to
get
a
Home
Rule
petition
or
at
least
as
much
comments
about
the
home
rule,
the
legal
language
that
we'd
like
to
send
to
the
State
House
certified
and
finished,
but
also
because
of
the
the
process
that
we're
in
we
did
have
a
hearing.
We
did
have
a
an
executive
order
was
released
by
the
mayor
as
well.
B
That
took
I
would
say,
honestly
took
a
lot
of
the
practical
suggestions
in
the
home
low
position,
Home
Rule
petition
to
heart
and
responded
accordingly.
So
there
are
certain
things
that
have
already
been
acted
upon
or
being
acted
on
by
the
city
and
I
want
to
thank
the
administration
for
doing
that
and
just
taking
the
leadership,
and
we
were
at
myself
and
Lestrade
and
we're
actually
at
the
signing
of
that
executive
order.
B
So
we
will
get
an
update
after
we
discussed
the
legal
components,
we
have
a
comparison
chart
between
the
home
roll
and
the
executive
order.
What's
left
for
us
to
deal
with.
So
that's
what
we'll
be
discussing
and
then
we'll
go
into
the
executive
order,
updates
and
concerns,
and
what's
going
on,
what's
not
going
on,
there
were
a
lot
of
things
happening
and
also
we'll
deal
with
questions
asked
at
the
previous
hearing.
B
G
Thank
you,
Thank
You
counsel,
Edwards.
The
only
comment
so
I
have
I'll
be
very
brief.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
administration
staff
for
being
here.
I
know:
there's
been
great
progress
on
this
issue.
What
a
state
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
mayor's
team
or
say
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
at
the
City
Council
and
central
staff
as
well
for
working
on
this
important
issue
and
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
this
discussion
and
learning
more
about
it,
Thank
You
council
head
woods
for
your
leadership.
Thank.
D
F
B
B
And
we
also
have
attorney
Edward
Coburn
did
I
get
everybody
I
hope
so,
okay
and
they'll
be
answering
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
we
have
today
so
before
we
get
into
it.
I
wanted
to
bring
us
back
to
how
much
work
has
actually
been
going
on,
and
also
just
summarize,
some
of
the
questions
my
colleagues
had
at
the
previous
working
or
excuse
me
previous
hearing.
A
lot
of
the
questions
were
around
the
process,
specifically
around
translation
I.
B
Think
councillor
flynn
specifically
was
curious
about
the
transparency,
the
process
being
notified
and
also
making
sure
it's
in
more
than
one
language.
Councillor.
Clarity
was
talking
a
great
deal
about
the
zoning,
the
the
buffer
zones
and
whether
there
was
room
for
changing
those
to
make
them
bigger.
B
Councillor
olio,
specifically,
was
were,
was
talking
about
again
the
notice
requirements
for
the
for
the
for
the
processor
for
the
hearings
not
only
just
language
but
timing.
My
I
specifically
asked
about
the
the
the
frequency
of
the
meetings.
In
many
cases,
I
felt
that
having
a
hundred
cases
was
not
a
sufficient,
nor
was
it
truly
a
deliberative
process
and
that
we
needed
to
consider
weekly
meetings
for
the
CBA.
Council
was
specifically
concerned
about
the
how
a
project
is
or
isn't
included
on
the
timeline.
What
decisions
are
made
for
deferral?
B
B
So
that
we're
very
clear
about
that
and
that's
something
it
did
ask
for
in
the
and
the
home
row
petition.
And
so,
if
I
miss
characterize
any
of
your
questioning.
Colleagues,
who
are
on
the
on
the
that
on
the
zoom
please
feel
free
to
to
supplement,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
continued
our
conversation.
I
believe
councillor,
sabi
George
is
also
trying
to
sign
in.
Let
me
just
make
sure.
H
B
B
B
D
B
Well,
Thank
You,
counselor
whew,
so
now
we're
dealing
again
again.
We
have
a
home
rule,
petition
and
executive
order
and
a
lot
of
the
things
in
the
home
rule
petition
was
taken
care
of
in
the
executive
order
or
at
least
addressed
in
the
executive
order
and
we'll
get
to
the
updates
on
those.
So
the
major,
if
you
look
at
it,
the
first
thing:
oh
and
we've
also
been
joined
by
counselor
clarity.
I
B
J
B
C
B
A
B
So
the
major
difference
between
the
executive
order
and
the
legislation
is
that
the
legislation
intends
to
add
additional
seats
or
change
the
comp,
the
the
the
members
of
the
CBA,
that
can
only
be
done
by
the
Home
Rule
petition.
It
cannot
be
done
by
executive
order.
We've
also
been
joined
by
counselor
Bach.
B
Sorry,
it's
like
you
sure,
she's
done
very
well
clarity
and
Bach,
so
that
that
is
no
real.
There's
no
difference
in
the
executive
order
or
in
the
homo
petition
about
that.
As
many
will
recall,
the
home
repetition
looks
expertise
in
the
environmental
and
City
Planning
having
a
tenant
perspective,
having
someone
knowledgeable
in
zoning
laws
and
having
all
of
that
available,
the
executive
order
does
not
and
cannot
propose
new
seats,
but
does
support
board
training
on
a
regular
basis
so
that
the
board
members
are
brought
up.
B
I
think
it's
on
a
quarterly
basis,
brought
up
to
speed
on
all
those
zoning
changes
in
the
neighborhood
and
understanding
what
they
mean.
That
was
prompted
by
the
confusion
about
the
buffer
zone
between
marijuana
dispensaries
that
was
brought
up
because
there
was
confusion
about
whether
neighborhood
is
in
or
out
of
the
iPod
and
making
sure
there
was
comprehensive,
continued
education.
B
The
next
component
was
about
electronic
filing
electronic
electronic
notice.
We
both
I
proposed
in
the
legislation
administration,
responded
by
essentially
adopting
most
of
the
recommendations
and
providing
a
timeline
to
implement
them,
being
able
to
file
online
records
being
able
to
be
searchable
online
and
allowing
people
in
the
neighborhood
defined
by
their
neighborhood,
what's
being
put
up
being
able
to
sign
up
to
receive
electronic
emails
and
notifications
about
a
specific
project.
B
What
wasn't,
but
I,
still
proposed
and
think
is
I
would
like
the
administration
to
answer
eventually
is
about
the
quarterly
reports
on
variances
I.
Think
myself,
Inc
and
councillor
Braden
were
concerned
about
having
an
understanding
comprehensively
of
how
we
are
giving
out
neighbor
variances
what
kinds
of
variances
down
to
the
neighborhood
level
we
want
and
I
still
want
the
administration
to
commit
to
that.
It's
in
the
home
row
petition,
if
you,
if
you
won't
but
I,
do
think
it's.
It
makes
sense.
B
We
wanted
to
be
very
clear
about
who
is
actually
buying
and
getting
the
variances
in
our
neighborhoods.
The
executive
order
responds
by
requiring
board
member
which
I
hadn't
thought
about
actually
to
do
statements
of
financial
interest,
which
I
think
was
great,
but
also
directs
the
city
to
change
the
zoning
code
standard
for
thresholds
for
applicants.
Right
now,
if
you're
under
article
80
and
you're,
a
large
project
person,
you
are
required
to
already
give
this
information
to
the
city
and
the
city
is
going
to
lower
that
threshold.
B
That's
a
difference,
additional
conflicts
of
interest.
My
legislation
removes
the
conflicted
priorities,
removing
essentially
real
estate
interests
from
the
board.
I
also
wanted
a
Geographic
band
for
anyone
currently
serving
on
the
board.
You
couldn't
be
in
the
business
of
architect
or
being
in
the
business
of
real
estate
in
the
city
of
Boston.
I
also
wanted
a
five-year
cooling-off
period
so
that
you,
if
you
were
done
with
the
board,
you
did
it
five
years
before
you
could
get
back
into
the
industry
or
vice
versa
then
applies
conflicts
of
interest,
also
onto
board
staff.
B
The
executive
order
does
respond
and
does
come
up
with
conflict
of
interest.
It
expands
restrictions
on
the
board,
participation
and
appeals
on
former
business
interests
from
two
to
five
years,
so
adopting
the
five
years,
but
not
the
geographic
ban
and
those
do
a
two-year
cooling-off
period
for
any
business
dealings
with
an
adjudicated
project
calling
the
boat
date.
So
if
I
voted
on
my
one,
eight
six
London
Shire
Street
in
East
Boston
on
June,
1st
2020
I,
couldn't
deal
with
and
work
even
in
my
private
industry
on
that
project
for
two
years.
B
So
that's
my
interpretation,
I
believe
that's
what
the
administration
intended
is
to
stay
away
for
projects
I
vote
for
for
at
least
two
years,
so
there
is
no
I
made
it
rich.
I
voted
on
this
awesome
project.
Yeah
I'm,
going
to
turn
around
the
next
week,
quit
the
board
and
then
work
on
there
as
a
consultant
am
I
correct,
very
well
so
that
so
we
I
will
say.
The
many
of
the
concerns
were
responded
to
one
concern.
I
had
was
a
standard
of
a
variance.
B
The
executive
order
does
not
approach
that
because
the
executive
order
cannot
I
wanted
to
actually
make
the
executive
order.
Part
of
the
zoning
code
and
I
wanted
to
change
it
to
at
least
allow
for
consideration
of
several
things:
impact
on
the
city's
goals
for
generating
income,
restricted
housing,
furthering
fair
housing,
preventing
eviction
and
displacement
and
and
climate
change
at
least.
Have
these
things
be
asked
and
be
part
of
the
consideration.
B
The
7c
is
running
low.
Okay,
the
men's
staff
support
accessibility,
customer-facing
reforms
also
suggested
in
the
legislation.
I
wanted
to
create
an
Community
Council
someone
who's
neutral.
Who
could
be
there
to
help
guide
people
through
what
many
consider
a
very
intimidating
unfriendly
process
if
you're,
not
in
the
know,
if
you're
just
here
having
an
opinion,
the
executive
order
responded
with
an
ombudsman
position
which
is
essentially
not
an
outright
attorney,
but
someone
who
is
there,
who
is
supposed
to
help
guide
neutrally
both
parties
or
any
party
who
needs
some
help?
This
is
where
you
speak.
B
This
is
the
number
that
you
have.
This
is
what
happens
if
you
don't
win
today.
This
is
what
happens
if
you
do
win
today.
This
is
the
preceding
process
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
also
part
available
in
many
languages,
CBA
training
and
internal
policies.
Both
the
Home
Rule
and
the
executive
order
require
the
board
to
promulgate
some
rules
and
the
legislation.
The
mayor
and
the
director
of
the
VRA
would
be
responsible
for
updating
as
EBA
on
changes
to
city
ordinances
and
end
zoning
and
the
executive
order
and
responds
to
that.
B
Other
administrative
policy,
legislative
changes,
the
frequency
of
meetings,
I
brought
that
up.
That's
still
a
concern,
there's
clearly
too
many
too
many
on
one-day
standards
for
directing
projects
to
the
evening
or
homeowner
in
evening
meetings,
what's
happening
with
the
small
project
review,
if
you
will
on
Thursdays
the
staffing
budgetary
request
to
support
this
for
ISD,
the
data
reporting
and
also
term
limits
with
something
I
brought
up
as
well.
B
Edward
Colburn
could
speak
to
whether
it's
what
whether
we
need
a
term
limits
in
the
home
rule
or
whether
you
can
do
so
outright
in
the
executive
order
or
the
city
could
do
this.
My
understanding
is
a
term
is
three
years
and
I
I.
Think
and
my
colleagues
can
agree
disagree
that
two
terms
is
sufficient.
That's
six
years
being
in
be
able
to
impact
the
variances
in
the
City
of
Boston,
definitely
no
more
than
three
terms,
which
would
be
nine
years.
B
So
that's
the
presentation
of
the
comparison
of
the
two
major
things
still
left
for
the
home
rule,
who
should
be
on
the
CBA
standard
for
a
variance.
Those
are
the
big
ones
for
the
for
the
executive
order.
Excuse
me
for
the
home
humble
petition.
I
will
now
turn
it
over
to
if
the
administration
has
any
summary
or
some
questions,
but
I
will
likely
turn
it
over
to
my
colleagues
who
may
have
many
questions.
That
was
a
lot
of
information.
E
E
So
the
commitment
is
there
on
for
composition,
something
that
we
need
to
continue
to
talk
about,
and
we
were
praised
to
do
that
today.
But
we
were
in
agreement
on
on
disclosures
transparency,
training,
modernizing
the
board
reporting
I
can
answer
that
question
now.
Yes,
we
are
committed
to
doing
quarterly
reports
and
even
on
an
ongoing
basis,
to
provide
open
data
in
addition
to
our
to
better.
You
know
database
that
folks
on
access
for
zva
cases,
so
the
commitment
is
there
we're
here
prepared
today
to
mom
to
work.
This
is
a
working
session.
E
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
questions
that
are
that
we
actually
weren't
really
prepared,
for.
We
are
understanding
there
today
we're
working
on
moving
forward
to
some
legislation
that
we
could
get
agreement
on
and
move
up
to
the
Statehouse.
But
we
are
prepared
to
give
an
update
on
where
we
are
with
the
executive
order.
Implementation
and
I
think
it
may
be
helpful
just
to
get
that
out
the
way
so
that
we
can
spend
time
on
things
that
we
need
to
really
such
give
some
agreement
on.
So
we
can.
E
We
can
advance
our
goals
here
today
and
that
will
also
answer
as
many
questions
that
we
can,
but
just
want
to
bring
that
context
and
understanding
that
I'm
that
that
it's
been
a
while,
since
we
have
this
conversation
and
a
lot
has
happened
and
a
lot
occurs
on
a
regular
basis.
But
with
that
said,
if
it's
okay
I
would
like
to
ask
Chris
English
shoes
now
chief
of
staff
and
is
Dean
to
just
give
an
update
on
where
we
are
with
the
executive
order.
Implementation
thanks.
C
Commissioner,
Thank
You
counselors
just
for
the
items
that
we
put
in
the
executive
order
that
had
a
time
limit
on
when
we
needed
to
implement
them
by
this
sort
of
broken
down
into
four
buckets.
So
the
first
bucket
would
be
the
hundred
and
twenty
day
requirements.
So
this
would
be
translation
and
language
access,
as
well
as
the
appointing
of
a
CBA
Ombudsperson.
C
So
right
now
the
translation
and
the
language
access
I
think
we
had
a
somewhat
easier
time
adopting
that,
given
that
we've
moved
to
virtual
hearings
during
the
response
to
the
pandemic.
So
right
now
for
all
hearings,
we
provide
the
opportunity
for
folks
that
need
translation
assistance,
whether
that's
to
provide
testimony
or
to
just
understand,
what's
going
on
with
the
board
or
to
actually
provide
a
presentation
to
notify
the
department
in
advance
that
they
would
need
translation
assistance.
C
And
then
we
will
provide
that
during
the
hearings,
so
that
that's
providing
all
of
the
notices
that
we
send
out
to
abutters
to
that
we
post
online
so
that
that's
available
and
we're
working
on
expanding
that
capability
through
our
digital
platform,
to
provide
real-time
translation.
So
that's
something
in
addition
that
we're
looking
to
do
but
right
now,
if
somebody
does
need
some
assistance
with
translation,
we're
able
to
provide
as
far
as
the
the
Ambassador
position
is
sort
of
when
we're
referring
to.
We
have
appointed
somebody
as
a
gba
ambassador.
C
That's
there
at
least
an
hour
before
hand
on
hearing
days
to
answer
questions
that
folks
might
have
about.
You
know
how
to
testify
or
when
something's
coming
up
on
an
agenda
or
how
to
access
information
about
board
proceedings
that
ambassador
person
is
also
there
throughout
the
entire
hearing
to
answer
questions
to
help
facilitate
testimony
from
the
public
as
well
as
presenters
and
they're
available.
C
You
know
throughout
the
week
before
and
after
hearings
as
well,
so
that
that's
both
of
those
items,
I
think
we've
accomplished
sort
of
what
has
been
contemplated
in
the
executive
order
and
we're
looking
to
expand
those
capabilities
beyond
the
next
sort
of
time.
Item
is
scheduling
a
business
meeting
with
the
board
to
discuss
written
policies
and
procedures
that
was
due
on
the
22nd
of
June.
We
held
a
meeting
with
the
board
a
public
meeting
to
discuss
a
written
policy
and
procedure
document.
C
Our
next
deadlines
are
coming
up
next
month.
This
would
be
primarily
technology
related,
so
the
online
application
and
payment
for
Appeals
the
application
itself
has
been
developed.
The
technology
is
there
we're
beta
testing
it
right
now,
but
both
the
payment
and
the
applications
are
ready,
given
a
ready
to
roll
out
as
soon
as
we
confirm
that
all
the
capabilities
work
for
just
the
technology
side
of
it,
electronic
testimony
is
something
we've
also
adopted.
C
All
of
that
testimony
is
what
we
would
consider
electronic,
but
we
provide
folks
the
opportunity
to
send
in
written
or
tape
testimony
in
advance
of
hearings,
and
those
are
read
into
the
record
when
a
case
comes
up
before
the
board,
so
the
electronic
testimony
is
available.
We
also
have
a
few
weeks
left
before
we
petition
the
Zoning
Commission
on
changing
the
thresholds
for
reporting
I
think
we're
working
with
the
BPD
a
on
that
as
we
speak,
and
our
goal
is
to
have
that
done
before
mid-august.
C
C
So
we
have
a
fellow
working
from
do
it
this
summer,
on
our
CBA
data
cleaning
up
things
and
getting
ready
to
put
a
project
tracking
system
online
available
for
constituents
and
applicants
similar
to
what
you
find
with
the
BPD,
a
board
where
you
have
project
information.
Various
steps
in
the
process
that
it's
at
opportunity
submit
comments.
Our
goal
is
to
have
something
similar
for
the
CDA.
B
C
We're
also
in
the
process
of
bringing
on
some
additional
management
analysts
for
is
DS
internal
IT
team
to
work
on
CBA
technology
related
stuff,
so
I
think
we're
on
the
right
track.
We're
cutting
down
a
lot
of
the
the
items
that
were
in
the
executive
order
and
we
should
we're
on
track
to
complete
all
of
use
by
the
various
deadlines
that
are
put
in
there.
So.
E
I
just
want
to
just
add
one
more
thing
to
what
Chris
just
said.
This
does
expand
a
little
bit
more
and
what
we're
doing
for
hearings.
Currently,
we
are
having
weekly
hearings
with
an
agenda
that
that
provides
more
time
for
deliberation.
I
think
they've
been
going
well
and
getting
better
week
by
week.
We
are
planning
to
go
back
to
our
regular
schedule
of
having
every
other.
You
know
every
other
week,
but
what's
still
agenda,
that's
much
lighter
than
what
we
had
before,
but
we
also
plan
to
add
an
additional
hearing
per
quarter.
E
The
thanks
for
approving
the
budget.
There
are
new
staff
members
dedicated
in
that
budget.
We
expect
to
have
bodies
in
those
positions
actually
maybe
by
September,
and
when
we
have
sufficient
staffing,
then
we
do
plan
to
going
forward.
Look
at
going
back
to
a
weekly
schedule
that
would
be
more
easily
accomplished
with
with
the
additional
staff
than
it
is
to
sustain
right
now.
So
it's
going
to
give
update
on
that
as
long
very.
B
C
B
B
The
sixteenth
okay,
can
you
work
with
Christine
to
coordinate
that
for
all
of
the
colleagues
who
may
not
have
seen
them,
including
myself?
Certainly
thank
you
and
the
arms
of
the
staff
member
who's.
The
humble
Ombudsperson
is
this
a
regular
like
full-time
staff
person
dedicated
to
this
job,
or
is
this
kind
of
a
rotating
in
person
from
from
ISD,
so.
C
B
Is
it's
gonna,
be
Ayesha's
or
miss
Johnson's
number
one
I'm
concerned
about
continuity
of
standards,
a
continuity
of
friendliness,
continuity
of
understanding
the
process,
and
so
how
do
you
assure
that
the
person
who
is
in
that
behind
that
desk,
who
is
there,
is
meeting
this
same
kind
of
standards
understands
the
entire
goal
is
about?
You
know,
neutrality?
How
do
you
do
that?
If
you're?
If
you
are
rotating
people
in
that's.
E
A
great
question:
we
don't
envision
that
mr.
melih
will
be
doing
this
in
perpetuity,
but
we
do
understand
that
even
though
there
there
is
a
positions
budget
in
our
new
budget
that
it'll
take
us
some
time
to
actually
hire
those
people.
So
when
we
do
have
additional
staff,
which
we
expected
to
do
so
by
September,
we'll
be
able
to
use
our
regular
staff
that
it
may
still
not
be
one
person.
But
it
will
be
a
small
team
that
would
be
in
part
of
that
rotation
and
just
to.
B
B
B
E
G
A
B
E
Know
I
understand,
but
if
a
few
weeks
after
the
executive
order,
we
did
shut
down
for
the
pandemic.
I'm
sorry,
but
it's
true
I
have
to
this
year
that
and
so
we
actually
pause
EBA
and
we
will
focus
on
critical
services
and
now
we're
resuming
and
we're
recovering,
and
so
I
would
have
to
say
that
deadly
that
did
affect
that
timeline.
Understood.
B
B
B
We
will
have
an
opportunity
to
commit
or
comment
on
that
as
well,
because
that
will
be
part
of
a
different
public
process,
of
course,
okay,
the
electronic
notice.
So,
if
I
am
on
a
directive
butter
to
whatever
I'm
gonna
get
in
my
notice
physically
in
my
house,
a
something
that
says
I
can
sign
up
for
translation
and
something
that,
on
the
same
notice,
something
that
says
I
can
sign
up
for
electronic,
like
updates
as
well.
My
car
right.
B
Think
that's
great
and
then
the
quarterly
reports
of
the
variances
given
out
I
don't
think
the
executive
order
address
that
I
understood.
Commissioner
Irish.
That's
something
that
you
guys
are
not
opposed
to
or
maybe
I'm
incorrect,
but
I
think
there
should
be
an
annual
assessment
of
what's
happening
in
terms
of
the
variances.
E
That's
not
something
we're
forced
as
Chris
mentioned
via.
We
do
have
a
in
the
summer,
fellow
actually,
from
the
Department
of
innovation
and
technology
who's
working
with
us
on
zba
data.
We
should
have
a
report
from
them
in
about
a
month
and
we
can
come
there.
We
could
provide
a
timeline
as
to
what
the
dates
are,
but
we're
we're
certainly
supportive
not
only
of
providing
quarterly
reports.
We
want
the
data
to
be
available
on
an
ongoing
basis.
I.
B
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
appreciate
everyone's
time
and
appreciate
your
leadership
council
Edwards
for
continuing
this.
We
are
now
I
think
five
months
from
the
last
hearing
or
the
last
working
session
on
this,
so
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
a
few
things
asked
last
time
to
see
if
there
are
more
answers,
but
also
just
start
with
the
kind
of
state
of
the
currency
be
a
membership.
E
C
Hello,
I
was
just
pulling
up
the
names
here.
Sorry
right
now.
We
currently
have
Marc
Erlich,
who
is
appointed
through
the
building
trades
council.
We
have
Marc
fortune
he's
through
the
building
trades
Employers
Association.
We
have
Christina
Russo
who's,
a
mayoral
appointee.
We
have
Joe
rogério
who's,
also
a
mayoral
appointee.
On
behalf
of
a
neighborhood
organization,
we
have
Tyrone
Candell,
who
is
an
alternate
member
appointed
through
the
Boston
Building
Trades
Council.
We
have
Kerri
Walsh,
who
is
an
alternate?
C
D
So
I'm
just
cross-referencing
this
with
the
the
public
website.
Okay,
so
we've
had
mark
Christine,
mark
Kerry,
Tyrone
ed,
devote
Joe
ruggieri
Oh
Nadine,
okay,
so
that
means
so.
Could
you
just
verify?
That's
one.
Two,
three
four
active
members
and
two
active
alternates
is
that
correct,
that's
correct.
D
C
So
we
need
five
members
for
a
quorum
and
you
need
at
least
five
votes
to
approve
a
doctor
case
moving
forward.
So
if
there
are
only
six
members
seated,
it
requires
nearly
a
unanimous
vote
or
something
to
get
passed.
So
members
applicants
may
request
a
deferral
if
there
are
not
a
fully
seated
board
answer
your
question
fully.
D
D
And
then,
just
in
terms
of
the
you
know
and
I
had
a
commissioner
Irish
and
I
had
a
conversation
about
this
leading
up
to
the
budget
vote
in
terms
of
the
sort
of
backup
that
this
might
create
and
and
the
impact
on
cases.
So
when
you
know
when
petitioners
are
requesting
deferrals,
etc,
that
just
means
that
later
council
I'm
sorry
zba
meetings
get
the
agenda
just
gets
longer
and
longer,
okay
and
then
just
to
clarify.
So
the
City
Council
has
in
the
planning
development
of
Transportation
Committee
I
believe
it
is.
C
G
D
D
D
If
it's
easier,
I'm
happy
to
put
it
in
writing
and
submit
it.
As
the
council
moves
towards
consideration
to
help
relieve
this
stressful
situation,
that
the
board
members
are
under
of
being
right
at
quorum
and
sometimes
below
so
I
know,
we
discussed
a
little
bit
about
the
executive
order
and
its
implementation,
and
you
could
we
just
review
very
quickly
the
Sullivan
in
Worcester
report's
recommendations.
There
were
42
of
them
in
the
appendix
and
which
how
many
in
which
of
those
have
been
implemented.
D
E
A
D
B
Counselor
to
hopefully
to
find
a
balanced
approach
to
this
issue
in
quandary
as
we're
going
through
the
additional
councilmembers
kind
of
questions.
I
do
think
it's
worth
somebody
from
the
administration
at
least
going
through
and
at
least
marking
up
some
of
the
42
things
that
you've
acted
on
or
have
not
acted
on.
While
we're
doing
some
questions,
there's
there's
you
know
four
of
you
guys
on
today,
I'm
sure
someone
can
take
the
time
to
go
through
that,
while
we're
asking
other
questions.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
That
would
be
wonderful,
thank
you
and
so
just
to
continue
on
with
the
question
so
again,
I'm
asking
the
administration,
while
we're
dealing
with
this
and
three
can
hands
of
the
questions,
and
somebody
can
go
to
that
report.
We'll
come
back
for
a
second
round
and
hopefully
by
then
counts
that
we'll
have
some
updates
councillor,
Braden
I.
I
You
manager,
you
just
sort
of
my
long-standing
issue:
it's
making
sure
that
when
a
matter
is
deferred
that
the
the
abutters
and
the
local
Neighborhood
Association
receive
additional
notice.
That's
always
been
this.
That
was
this.
This
is
really
an
issue
from
the
previous
administration
and
the
ruse
that
they
used
to
run
with
deferral.
So
my
hope
is
that
when
a
matter
is
deferred,
the
onus
really
should
be
on
the
petitioner
and
it
should
be
at
their
cost
because
they're
there
making
that
decision
to
defer
their
matter.
I
The
onus
should
now
be
on
them
to
take
the
affirmative
steps
to
notify,
particularly
the
direct
about
is,
if
not
by
certified
mail
by
old
school,
going
out
there
and
leafleting
the
neighborhood
again.
So
so
we
eliminate
the
hocus-pocus
of
hey.
What
happened
to
the
hearing?
Oh
I
got
deferred.
Okay,
greed.
You
know
when
the
next
hearing
is
no
but
we'll
probably
get
something
in
the
mail
or
we'll
hear
about
it,
and
then
they
take
a
couple
weeks
off
where
they
go
away
for
a
vacation.
I
They
come
back
and
the
matter
was
approved
and
they're
sitting
there
scratching
their
head
saying.
Well,
how
did
that
happen
like
so
that
has
to
stop
and
I
think
the
mechanism
is
requiring
the
petitioners
themselves
to
take
on
that
that
burden,
if
you
will
of
the
expense
of
just
just
notify
the
neighbors
when
they
get
the
new
date?
It's
pretty
straightforward.
It's
pretty
simple
stuff.
We
don't
do
it,
it's
a
head
scratcher!
So
that's
that's
been
a
long-standing
issue
that
dates
back
to
the
Meno
administration.
That
I
think
needs
to
be
addressed,
ASAP
and
also.
I
Obviously,
we
want
to
have
a
diversity
of
thought.
We
want
to
make
sure
we're
eliminating
conflicts,
but
we
also
don't
have
a
situation
where
we
have
so
many
board
members.
It's
like
herding
cats,
because
there's
a
they
play
an
important
role
and
it's
an
important
function
in
getting
to
a
decision
and
getting
to
consensus
is
important
and
I
think
having
a
board
that
has
diversity
of
thought,
but
is
also
very
streamlined
and
focused,
and
my
experience
has
been
sort
of
the
lodge
of
the
boards.
I
You
know
the
more
complicated
and
the
more
hectic,
and
these
decisions
need
to
be
made
in
a
relatively
short
period
of
time,
so
that
the
folks
can
move
forward.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
open
for
business.
We
want
to
encourage
investment,
we
want
to
keep
people
working.
We
want
to
move
projects
forward,
we're
a
city
that
continues
to
be
on
the
move.
I
We
boast
of
the
best
colleges,
universities,
network
of
hospitals
and
community
health
centers,
where
we're
CEOs
and
companies
are
moving
to
Boston
to
tap
into
the
intellectual
capital,
a
liveable,
workable,
safe
city.
So
all
of
that
good
mojo
is
good
for
Boston
and
a
lot
of
that
happens.
I
see
Commissioner
Dee
homework
versus
Anya
the
volume
of
traffic
that
he
is
seeing
over
10:10
Mass
Ave,
not
necessarily
a
bad
thing
for
Boston,
particularly
as
we're
trying
to
dig
out
from
from
from
the
effects
of
CO
vid.
I
I
That
we're
giving
a
lot
of
thought
to
a
board
that
again
has
diversity
of
thought
throughout
the
different
sectors,
but
you
really
have
to
streamline
it
and
I'm
on
board.
Obviously,
if
we
have
to
limit
the
terms
or
have
folks
rotate
off
like
other
boards,
so
I
appreciate
the
time
and
attention
appreciate
all
the
work
you
guys
do
like
I
see
you
had
coal
burns
on
here,
probably
one
of
one
of
our
best
municipal
employees.
I
I
You
don't
have
to
vote
for
it
against
it,
but
at
the
very
least
you
don't
want
to
feel
that
someone
try
to
pull
one
over
on
you
or
they
deferred,
and
then
they
snuck
it
through
and
that's
kind
of
what
happens
and
and
if
we
can
eliminate
that
portion
of
it
and
restore
a
little
more
confidence
and
transparency
into
the
process.
I
think
that
goes
a
long
way
and
maybe
addressing
some
of
the
bigger
issues
but
I
caution
against
a
13
member
or
a
15
member
or
21
member.
I
K
B
E
I
I
B
K
I
think
my
my
only
question
at
this
point
would
just
be
and
I
don't
know
if
this
was
where
we're
gonna
go
next
in
the
conversation,
but
I
would
love
to
see
to
hear
from
the
administration
sort
of
what
their
counter
proposal
is
about
seats
to
add
to
the
CBA
and
kind
of
yeah.
Weird
that
that's
the
main
thing
I
wanted.
K
B
I
know
that
there
were
some
questions
about
notice
from
councillor
Flaherty
to
the
administration,
specifically
on
this
executive
order,
and
if
you
feel
free
to
answer
that
I
understood
that
the
the
notice
and
the
firls
could
be
electronic
and
be
you
know,
live
as
the
decisions
are
made.
They
could
be
sending
out
those
emails
or
within
hours
of
that.
But
please,
if
you
can
elaborate
on
the
executive
order
and
how
they're
gonna
that's
going
to
change
notice,
commissioner,
or
or
whomever.
E
E
Are
we
also
thinking
about
deferrals
that
are
caused
by
not
having
a
you
know,
fully
seated
board
because,
like,
for
example,
this
past
Tuesday
we
had
about
50%
of
the
cases
were
deferred
because
they
were,
you
know
they
weren't
seven
board
members
sitting.
That's
that's
something
that's
entitled
to
all
the
applicants
when
we
don't
have
a
fully
seated
board.
So
do
you
also
envision
that
that
requirement
of
having
applicants
provide
notice
to
a
but
isn't
best
scenario
as
well.
B
For
me,
and
and
for
what
I
think
I
actually
disagree
a
little
bit
from
councillor
Flaherty
in
that
yes
notice
is
important,
but
I,
don't
believe
the
onus
should
be
on
any
moving
party
if
the
process
than
the
ability
for
people
to
have
due
process
should
also
be
controlled
by
the
city.
So
notice
is
I
believe
on
the
city's
part,
all
notice
about
anything,
whatever
deferral,
whatever
the
reason
for
the
deferral
should
be
coming
from
the
city
and
the
subsequent
date
for
when
the
matter
will
be
deferred
should
also
be
coming
from
the
city.
I
Manager,
just
a
footnote,
I,
don't
disagree
with
that.
I
just
want
whether
it's
what
cost
associated
that
should
be
potentially
passed
on
to
the
petitioner,
particularly
if
they
were
the
ones
that
recommended
the
deferral
so
I'm
an
agreement
city
is
is
in
the
best
position
to
notify
folks
and
if
the
argument
against
doing
that
as
well,
it's
costly
and
postage
and
anything
else.
Well
then,
they
should
pass
that
through
to
the
petitioners
part
of
the
application
product,
correct.
E
C
So
the
goal
is
to
have
real-time
information
about
each
project
available
on
our
web,
with,
hopefully
the
ability
for
folks
to
sign
up
for
information
about
an
individual
project
or
regular
notices
about
hearings
in
general
or
geographic
location.
So
you
know
broken
down
by
neighborhood
if
you'd,
like
updates
on
whether
or
not
something's
been
deferred,
approved,
etc.
So
we're
envisioning
the
ability
to
be
notified
about
individual
projects
as
they
move
through
the
as
well
as
summary
information
following
a
vote
or
a
decision
and.
B
C
B
B
Very
well
I'm
going
to
Nestle
anyone
has
any
additional
questions
specifically
on
the
executive
order
and
updates
I
do
appreciate
the
updates
coming
in.
We
did
pause
the
questioning
on
the
Sullivan
Wooster
report,
but
have
the
42
recommendations.
Is
there
any
summary,
or
at
least
some
some
response
to
some
of
the
recommendations
that
the
city
has
or
hasn't
responded
to?
And
this
all
of
a
muster
report.
C
B
C
C
So
right
now
we're
not
having
meetings
in
the
book
in
hearing
room
801,
so
some
physical
changes
there
I
think
someone
on
hold
since
we're
not
holding
hearings
in
public,
but
I
know
that
the
this
sound
quality
has
been
worked
on
in
room
801
and
they've,
taken
a
lot
of
steps,
the
property
management
division
to
improve
that
both
the
sound
in
the
technology
they're
the
waiting
area
further
down
in
the
hallway.
That's
item
number
11:
that
is
the
goal
to
have
that.
Once
we
start
having
hearing
in
person
again
in
the
future.
C
C
We
are
communicating
pretty
much
email
right
now
with
applicants,
but
all
of
our
notices
of
being
sent
digitally
as
well
as
hardcopy
in
in
the
mail
for
the
notices
and
and
requirements
that
way.
I'm
number
17
is
email
notice.
That's
provided
number
18
electronic
access
to
plans
for
board
members
and
may
advance
of
hearings
that
is
implemented.
C
C
Under
Section,
II
I
think
the
trainings
that
were
contemplated
in
the
executive
order
are
in
progress
both
in
ethics
and
just
procedural
trainings.
So
those
items
are
all
covered
by
our
executive
order.
In
Section
F
we
have
items
twenty-nine,
thirty
thirty-one
have
all
been
completed,
we're
posting
positions,
so
those
are
all
in
progress.
I
would
say
rather
than
completed.
C
C
B
B
I'll
have
Christine
and
I
will
go
through
the
list
to
make
sure
we
have
an
understanding
of
what
is
outstanding.
I
want
to
be
clear,
though.
I
did
not
understand
that
this
report
was
a
was
a
requirement
or
that
the
administration
agreed
to
all
of
this.
This
was
an
advisory
consultant
outside
report
and
I
I
met
with
the
the
two
attorneys
who
helped
to
write
it
and
I
did
not
agree
with
all
of
their
recommendations
either.
B
They
had
also
you
know,
lowering
zoning
standards
and
making
sure
it
was
easier
to
pass
things
through
the
CBA
as
one
of
the
recommendations,
so
I
do
appreciate
that
you've
agreed
to
certain
things,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
as
you
are
going
to
agree
or
disagree
with
anything
in
this
report
that
has
not
been
publicly.
You
know
back
and
forth.
Embedded
the
administration
be
very
open
about
that
and
I
appreciate
councillor
woo
asking
these
questions,
so
we
can
see
directly
councillor.
J
Edwards,
just
to
your
point,
you're
correct:
this
was
not
a
report
that
blanket
it
was
accepted.
A
lot
of
the
things
I
think
it
was
raised
at
the
last
hearing,
things
that
really
required
broader
conversations,
including
with
the
community
and
that's
so
you're
correct
in
that,
and
that
understanding.
E
B
H
B
Any
event
again,
I
want
to
thank
councilor
Wu
for
bringing
that
up.
I
didn't
think
to
go
through
that
number
and
I
appreciate
that
council
will
just.
Finally
before
we
go
to
the
actual
zba
to
the
home
row
petition,
the
trainings
will
also
involve
any
updates
for
on
cannabis
regulations
as
well
for
the
CBA.
B
Yes,
yes,
that's
all
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
part
of
the
the
trainings
all
right.
So
now
going
into
the
heart
of
the
matter,
the
proposed
zoning
home
rule
petition
and
the
three
buckets
where
I
find
where
there
is
either
no
opinion
or
there's
or
there's.
No,
that
are
specifically
not
addressed
by
the
executive
order,
is
the
board
composition
the
standard
for
a
variance
and
term
limits.
B
E
J
You
sure
I
think
our
position
on
that
councillor
and
I
think
we
discussed
this
prior.
Is
you
know
whatever
we
send
up
to
the
legislature?
We
really
want
to
position
it
for
success
right.
We
do
feel
that
there's
a
need
for
technical
expertise
on
the
board
and
that
a
lot
of
those
slots
that
currently
occupy
still
have
value
and
again
to
not
invite
unnecessary
opposition.
We
feel
like
we
can
get
to
a
better
place
by
adding
additional
expertise
to
the
board
along
lines
that
Commissioner
iris
just
described.
B
Was
there
any
thought
about
having
somebody
who
is
a
zoning
law,
expert
or
I
had
renters
perspective
or
homeowner
perspective?
There's
lots
of
different
perspectives
there
and
I
I'm
very
first
of
all
great.
We
agree
on
at
least
two
perspectives.
That
certainly
should
be
part
of
the
board.
So
that's
good.
We
a
bio,
Mentalist
and
city
planner,
but
was
any
thoughts
to
that
and
then
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
my
colleagues
to
talk
about
the
composition
of
the
board
and
any
questions
they
have.
E
Yeah
definitely
thoughts
about
it.
Just
you
know
a
lot
of
different
perspectives
that
we
need
to
have
on
board
and
different
ways
to
accomplish
having
those
lens,
whether
it
is
through
policy
or
to
people
who
are
actually
sitting
on
the
board,
but
I
also
believe
that
the
board
shouldn't
be
unwieldy.
We
need
to
have,
if
you
know,
maybe
we
added
a
position
or
two.
We
think
that
there
would
be
sort
of
the
max
of
what
the
boiler
would
look
like,
so
you
know
prioritizing
what
we
thought
would
be
most
beneficial.
E
D
F
The
existing
board
is
is
pretty
heavy
on
labor
representation,
which
I
absolutely
support,
labor
representation.
But
maybe
if
we
are,
if
we're
limited
in
the
actual
number
of
places,
we
may
have
to
do
a
little
adjustment
there
and
I'm,
not
I,
don't
have
a
vested
interest,
I
think
having
a
homeowner
or
community.
H
F
I
agree
with
this:
the
term
limits
I
think
up
to
three
terms
would
be
it
would
be
good
and
I
would
like
to
know
more
about
the
standard
for
variance,
because
the
issue
of
variance
is
this
huge
out
here
we
have
some
projects
that
are
just
asking
for
so
many
variances
and
that
are
getting
granted
and
I.
Just
really
am
trying
to
get
my
head
around.
What's
the
standard
and
and
and
figure
out,
if
we
need
to
do
more
intervention
to
get
a
handle
on
that
in
a
different
forum
from
this.
Thank
you.
H
I
Just
to
just
to
reaffirm,
obviously,
diversity
of
thought
in
engine
acumen
and
specialty
is
important,
but
obviously
we
got
to
come
to
decisions
on
important
matters
and
I
think
that
the
lodge
of
the
board,
the
harder
it
would
be
to
manage
and
the
harder
would
be
to
come
to
consensus
and
they
play
a
critical
function
in
our
city.
So
I
want
to
be
able
to
balance.
You
know
having
sort
of
a
wide
selection
of
occupations
in
personal
and
professional
experience,
but
also
need
to
caution
against
having
an
unwielding
board.
I
That
is,
like
herding
cats,
so
striking
that
balance
is
important.
Obviously,
just
the
initial
point
of
a
that
notice
is
important
to
direct
about
is
into
community
folks,
so
that
they
don't
feel
that
the
cake
was
baked
other
than
that
appreciate
the
time
and
everyone's
work
on
this.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
because.
B
Before
you
go
counselor
clarity,
I
did
have
an
looks
like
attorney.
John
does
as
well
have
a
question,
but
I
wanted
to
ask
what
your
thoughts
were
about
the
two
proposed
positions
from
the
administration,
a
city,
planner
and
environmentalists-
did
you
think
there
was
another
or
any
other
perspective
you
think,
should
be
as
a
required
in
this
home
role.
I
Can
I
give
it
a
little
more
thought
you
ever
see.
Eight
we
have
its
own
with
sort
of
architectural
engineering.
I
mean
you
think
about
what
happens
when
they
submit
them
when
they
submit
the
plans.
We
clearly
need.
You
know,
architect
or
structural
engineer,
to
review
the
plans
and
to
advise
fellow
members
of
the
board.
There's
a
legal
piece
of
it.
This
Chloe
real
estate
in
a
housing
piece
to
it.
I
You
obviously
want
community
voice
on
there.
You
know,
if
you
think
about
the
great
efforts
that
this
administration
and
us
as
a
body
of
doing
around
climate
resiliency,
that's
clearly
a
big
piece
and
and
I
think
council
of
women
I
know
he's
not
on,
but
he's
and
all
the
projects
that
we've
been
working
on
together.
It's
it's
about
transportation
and
in
around
no
pedestrian
safety
and
that
type
of
stuff.
So
having
someone
that
has
a
background
in
the
environment
and
transportation
is
critical,
I
think
to
the
things
that
we're
seeing
a
regular
basis,
so
yeah.
J
Jon
told
councilor:
that's
okay,
John,
how
are
you?
Oh,
you,
counselor
I,
just
want
to
speak.
To
that
point
concert
you
know
we.
We
had
tried
to
give
a
lot
of
thought
to
what
the
finding
that
appropriate
balance
in
terms
of
just
the
size
of
the
board,
so
that
doesn't
become
unwieldy,
that
we
do
permit
enough
voices
recognizing
that
this
is
a
board
that
that,
by
design
welcomes
all
public
input.
We
do
you
want
to
have
that
expertise
reflected.
So
we're
really.
J
You
know
we're
thinking
about
that
hard
and
we're
happy
working
with
all
of
you
on
that,
but
the
additional
benefit
of
expanding.
It
is
just
the
efficiency
of
the
board.
As
a
commissioner
and
in
Chris
English
have
laid
out,
we
do
have
a
backlog
of
cases,
pre,
kovat
and
now
the
Kovach
cases.
It's
a
lot
of
work
and
being
able
to
see
a
forum.
You
know
avoid
delays
and
and
putting
things
off
it
would
be
a
huge
benefit.
So
just
more
practical
standpoint
make
that
point,
but
thank
you
very
good.
Thank.
K
K
I
was
wondering,
and-
and
this
is
I
don't
know
if
I,
coach
or
Chris
or
anyone
can
just
fill
me
in
a
little
bit
on.
We
currently
have
I
know
you
were
I
know
you
gave
councilor
was
sort
of
current
appointments.
I
was
confused
because,
when
I
looked
at
kind
of
passed
legislation,
what
I
thought
the
bullying
Act
it
was
for
11
commissioners,
it
was
trying
to
understand
what
the
current
formal
number
and
the
enabling
act
is
and
council.
K
K
K
Anyways
yeah
so,
but
I
don't
want
to
do
I.
Although
a
working
session
is
good,
I
don't
need
I.
Don't
need
folks
to
wait
for
me
to
read
through
this
right
now,
but
yeah
just
would
love
to
would
love
to
make
sure
that
we're
really
considering
the
possibility
of
adding
somebody
with
that
housing
expertise
into
the
mix
as
well.
K
That
strikes
me
as
important
and
so
and
I.
Don't
know
whether
and
I
and
I
also
think
just
maybe
for
me
what
I
have
to
do
a
little
bit
more
homework
on,
and
obviously
this
is
a
I'm
new
to
the
weeds
of
this
issue
is
just
the
the
considerations
that
the
mayor
takes
into
into
account
in
appointing
the
at-large
members
and
whether
there's
a
space
there
for
the
conversation
about
sort
of
renters
and
homeowners,
and
such
I
was
thinking
that
too.
Yes,.
K
Place
to
kind
of
you
know
where
you
could
neutering
a
bunch
of
factors,
but
that
could
be
one
of
them
and
week
yeah.
So
so
forgive
me
for
not
not
coming
with
a
high
proposal
on
that
front,
but
that's
sort
of
where
my
thinking
is
is
I.
Think
the
two
proposed
by
the
administration
are
great
in
line
with
councilor
Edwards
is
proposal.
I
think
we
should
keep
talking
about
the
possibility
of
adding
some
housing,
expertise
and
I.
Think
looking
at
sort
of
renter
and
homeownership
identity
in
connection
to
the
mayor's
at-large
spots
might
make
sense.
B
You
very
much
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
ask
the
administration
some
thoughts
about
maybe
some
compromise
approach
to
this
in
terms
of
the
position,
so
we
very
very
likely
will
not
agree
on
the
exact
positioning
at
this
point
and
I've
actually
I
got
an
excellent
letter.
I
want
to
say
from
a
woman
from
rosin
Dale
I
can't
remember,
Christine
sent
it
out.
B
I
was
a
really
good
letter,
but
a
lot
of
what
she
was
noting
is
that
these
conversations,
especially
about
the
positions
she
would
want
more
robust
conversation
in
the
community
level
about
these
positions
and
I
respect
that
so
what
a
compromise
that
might
be
worth
that
allowing
for
continued
conversation,
but
also
allowing
for
us
to
move
this
forward,
is
to
look
at
the
two
that
are
proposed
by
the
administration,
but
also
to
look
at
language
within
the
home.
Real
position
that
allows
for
Boston
to
add
the
seats
on
its
own.
B
Going
forward
by
that
I
mean
I,
mean
any
opportunity
to
stop
having
the
State
House
having
to
go
back
to
the
State
House,
to
make
an
amendment
on
certain
components
of
our
laws.
I
think
it's
a
good
thing,
we're
doing
it
with
linkage,
for
example
right
where
we're
essentially
asking
for
us
to
be
able
to
make
the
decision
on
our
own
and
I
think
it
would
make
sense
going
forward.
We
can
continue
this
conversation
if
we
could
pass
this
with
kind
of
the
compromise
positions
that
we
can
work
on
and
ice
tight.
B
You
know
I
still
would
like
a
third,
but
we
can
work
on
what
their
compromises
but
allow
for
legislation
that
kind
of
allows
for
Boston
to
continue
this
conversation,
because
I
do
believe
how
we
grow,
how
we
look,
how
we
build
changes
and
it
shouldn't
and
unfortunately
that,
in
order
to
get
a
home,
we'll
petition
to
adjust
for
that
change,
every
single
time
is
not
not
realistic,
but
I
do
think.
We
should
be
at
least
able
to
have
that
conversation
begin
and
in
that
conversation
in
Boston,
so
I
can
work
on
the
language.
I.
B
J
B
B
But
that
we
may
not
have
to
go
back
is
my
thought:
I
thought
that
was
a
compromise,
because
there
are
lot
more
positions
that
I
think
about
right
now,
right
and
you
may.
The
ministration
may
just
disagree
so
I
think.
Well,
we
move
with
what
we
can
agree
on
and
then
allow
for
a
real
honest,
open
debate
in
Boston
for
Boston.
That's
my
thought.
J
Counselors
I've
really
enjoyed
working
with
you
and
I,
enjoy
the
fact
you're
always
trying
to
find
a
way
forward.
I
really
respect
that
a
lot.
It's
it's
something
that
obviously
I
mean
if
you're
gonna
you
know
we'll
look
at
that.
Consider
it
I,
don't
know
what
that
looks
like
and
I
would
have
to
really
sit
down
and
take
some
time
to
think
about
that
and
what
that
would
mean.
J
I
know
the
one
thing
as
I've
said
before
and
I
don't
want
to
sound
like
a
broken
record,
but
the
mayor
really
wants
to
send
something:
the
Statehouse
that
he
feels
gonna
have
a
solid
chance
of
passing.
So,
like
I
said,
let
us
take
that
back,
and
but
let's
have
that
conversation
but
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
all.
B
Okay,
to
Mike,
to
my
to
my
colleagues,
can
councillor
Bob
councilors
Dobby
George,
councillor
braid,
and
what
are
your
thoughts
about
that
kind
of
compromise?
A
point
where
we
may
not
come
to
a
complete
agreement
right
now,
but
wouldn't
it
be
nice
that
it
when
we
do
and
when
we
have
it
it's
in
Boston
in
Boston
can
just
make
the
decisions
going
forward.
B
That's
the
goal
kind
of
like
we
do
a
linkage
if
it
passes
we'll
be
able
to
turn
it
up
or
turn
it
down,
based
on
our
studied
understanding
of
what
needs
to
happen
in
our
development.
So
that's
to
my
colleagues
I'm
trying
not
to
let
perfect
be
the
enemy
of
the
good
I'm,
not
gonna
agree
with
certain
things
right
now.
I'm
just
put
it
out
there,
but
I
do
do
believe
process
and
the
ability
for
us
to
control
our
future
is
important.
I,
see,
counsel,
Braden
has
her
hand
raised
I
I,
agree.
F
I
think
that,
having
that
capacity
to
be
able
to
change
the
confirmation
of
the
and
the
structure
of
the
board
to
meet
the
needs
that
we
have
in
Boston,
without
having
to
go
cap
in
hand
to
ask
the
state
to
help
to
change
things
is
very
important.
I
am
just
getting
to
appreciate
the
frustration
of
this
process
of
having
to
do
the
whole
process.
It
is
really
frustrating
like
work.
We're
like
adolescents
who
need
to
go
to
Papa,
to
get
permission
to
do
things.
G
F
So
I
appreciate
that
and-
and
you
know,
I
really
feel
that
adding
some
more
more
more
breaths
and
to
me
to
the
board
itself
is
really
important.
You
know
I
think
the
two
suggestions
from
the
administration,
the
city
planner
and
the
environmental
as
representation
will
be
really
addition
really
add
to
it,
but
I
think
that
I
think
someone
with
fair
housing
or
with
heisting
background
from
the
point
of
view
just
trying
to
advocate
and
and
push
for
housing
I
think
it
brings
up
that
really
important
perspective
to
the
board
as
well.
H
K
Yeah
so
I
mean
I'm
strongly
in
favor
of
us,
taking
as
much
control
of
our
internal
city
operations
from
the
Statehouse
as
possible.
Always
I
think
that,
politically
to
the
administration's
point,
I
think
that
if
we
try
to
send
a
home
rule
up
that
gave
us
carte
blanche
to
change
it
from
this
point
forward.
Some
of
the
same
interest
that
would
object
to
us
removing
seats
will
object
to
the
possibility
of
us
removing
those
seats
through
that
card
blush.
K
So
I
would
think
that
in
order
to
pass
something
through,
we
might
have
to
do
something
like
we
give
ourselves
the
right
to
define
up
to
this
number
of
extra
seats,
like
with
you
know
where
we're
leaving
the
categories
open,
but
we're
explicitly
not
taking
the
capacity
to
remove
seats
from
sort
of
existing
interests
on
the
board,
I
mean
that's
just
my
political,
like
analysis
right
off,
but
it's
just
off
of
that.
You
know
I.
Think
again,
so
I
made
a
discuss.
I
did
want
to
flag
while
I
was
sitting
here.
K
I
looked
at
I
did
do
a
little
more
reading
and
it
seems
like
even
in
the
existing
statute.
So,
for
instance,
there
are
three
people
appointed
by
the
mayor
at
large
and
it
said,
and
there's
these
it
says:
okay,
he
appoints
three
people
at
large.
At
least
one
of
them
needs
to
be
an
owner-occupant
of
like
a
small
dwelling,
and
at
least
one
of
them
has
to
be
a
small
business
owner
of
a
business.
That's
that
has
50
or
fewer
employees
and
then,
but
it
doesn't
actually
have
any
condition
like
that.
K
For
the
sort
of
third
hypothetical
at
large,
there
seems
to
me
really
low-hanging.
Fruit
would
be
to
say
one
of
the
the
last
third
large
person
should
rent,
and
it
seems
like
it's
in
a
similar
category
as
those
other
two
requirements-
the
owner,
occupant
and
the
small
business
owner,
and
then
I
just
was
curious,
and
this
is
a
clarification
question.
Don't
forgive
me
if
I
am
didn't
understand
this
before,
but
I.
Could
the
administration
clarified?
Do
we
have
these
three
neighborhood
organization,
commissioners,
on
the
Commission?
At
the
moment,
we.
K
C
K
D
K
We
should
probably
change
it,
but,
but
it
is
how
it
is:
okay,
cool
I
will
I'll
do
more
reading
in
advance,
but
yeah
I
would
just
say
that
I
definitely
I
I
think
the
idea
from
councillor
Edwards
of
moving
forward.
What
we
agree
on
and
seeing
what
with
om
we
could
provide
ourselves
for
further
changes
later
without
going
back
with
a
home
rule,
would
make
sense,
but
I
think
we
probably
have
to
tailor
that
wiggle
room
if
we
want
to
actually
send
something
up
that
we
can
get
through.
So
must
be
my
comments.
F
Oh
he
he's
a
this
guy's
a
an
architect
or
that
you
know
so
that
you
have
a
better
city,
planner
or
whatever,
and
whatever
their
designation
or
their
expertise
is
so
that
you
get
a
better
understanding
of
off
the
the
actual
the
range
of
expertise
on
the
board.
From
the
public's
perspective
perspective,
it
might
be
a
way
to
increase
confidence
in
in
their
decision-making
if
we
knew
who
they
were.
If
you're
an
outsider,
you
don't
know
who
they
are
right.
B
B
A
bio
section:
basically,
so
we
understand
what
perspective,
how
we're
complying
with
the
zoning
with
what
the
law
I
think.
That's
good
Thank,
You,
councillor
Braden,
so
moving
on
to
the
next
big
section,
where
I
think
we
also
are
balancing
trying
to
respond
to
how
variances
are
given
out.
Also
balancing
with
that,
there
is
not
agreement
on
changing
the
standard
for
a
variance,
very
transparent
to
my
colleagues
and
also
trying
to
get
something
passed
at
the
Statehouse,
so
I'll
just
start
with
this
might
be,
and
I
did
get
in
a
being
totally
transparent.
B
We
got
an
email
today,
a
very
comprehensive
email,
saying,
if
you're
going
to
touch
the
standard
for
variance
and
make
it
part
of
the
zoning
code,
that
should
be
a
prolonged
longer
public
conversation
I
think
my
colleagues
got
that
email
from
the
woman
from
Moz
in
Dale
right,
and
that
was
one
of
her.
Her
thoughts
and
I-
don't
disagree
with
her,
so
my
I'll
just
put
it
out
here
again.
B
B
So
that
so
that
we're
not
stuck
on
I,
we
just
we
just
I-
mean
I'm
putting
out
to
my
colleagues.
This
is
not
a
like
a
contentious
disagreement.
We
just
I
mean
it's
a
lot
of
stuff
I'm
asking
to
be
considered
for
the
variance
and
I
think
it's
important
to
consider
all
things
impacts
on
the
city
planning
goals,
this
PacSun
affirmatively,
furthering
fair
housing.
All
of
these
different
things,
I
think,
should
be
part
of
the
conversation
now.
The
good
thing
is
my
understanding.
B
We
can
make
those
parts
of
the
conversation
by
who's
on
the
board,
but
also
by
the
way
the
public
has
testimony
and
thoughts
and
concerns
you
we
can
make
conversation
okay,
how
which
a
project
is
judged
is
what
I'm
also
trying
to
change,
and
so
again,
if
we're
talking
about
perfection
not
being
the
enemy
of
the
good
and
perfection,
not
being
the
enemy
of
progress,
to
get
something
up
there.
Might
it
makes
sense
to
have
that
compromised
language?
This
is
my
question
to
the
administration
and
to
my
colleagues.
B
C
The
the
board,
the
CBA
they're
empowered
to
grant
variances
to
the
zoning
code.
So
that's
how
itemized
in
the
statute
and
then
the
regulation
of
what
they
use
to
consider.
The
granting
of
a
variance
is
listed
in
the
zoning
code,
which
would
more
rather
than
you
look
at
it
like
the
ability
to
grant
the
variances
is
the
law.
The
standards
they
use
to
grant
those
variants
are
the
regulation
and.
C
B
We
can
bring
that
up,
I'm
wondering
if
someone
can
get
7c
over
to
us
for
this
working
session.
We
have
trying
to
keep
us
to
about
2
hours.
So
if
we
can
get
7c
and
make
sure
we're
clear
about
where
the
variance
standards
are
I
understood
my
understanding,
it
was
a
substantial
hardship
and
looking
at
the
topography,
there's
like
four
things
that
they're
supposed
to
say,
you're,
saying
those
four
things
are
already
in
the
zoning
code.
C
B
C
B
I
think
we
still
need
to
look
at
this
standard
and
we
can
probably
through
another
process
now
look
at
that
standard.
I
think
my
colleagues
agree
on
that
am
I.
Correct,
can
Kenzi,
okay
yeah.
So
that's
one
thing
but
to
know
if
this
is
the
standard
I,
don't
hear
anybody
on
the
CBA
ask
these
kinds
of
questions.
I
don't
see
it
and
that
might
be
a
lot
of
having
to
do
with
the
training
that
they
need
to
have
the
time
that
they
don't
have
to
review
right
and
also
in
general,
I.
B
Think
we
need
to
talk
about
more
of
the
standards
in
general
that
commitment
to
this,
but
this
is
extremely
helpful
thing.
This
was
great,
for
attorneys
may
be
whoever
or
Commissioner
whoever
this,
but
I
do
hope
that
there
is
a
commitment
also
to
renew
these
standards.
I'm
seeing
1970
in
here
as
may
be
the
last
time
the
standards
are
made
and
adore
either
way,
I
think
it's
worthy
of
20
vision,
not
to
like
council
block.
You
raise
your
hand.
K
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
I
I,
agree.
I.
Think
that
there's
a
good
I
think
that
the
conversation
about
the
standard
for
variance
is
one
that
that
is
at
the
heart
of
a
lot
of
folks
frustration
around
the
city
on
all
sides
right
about
predictability
and
expectations
and
to
councillor
Edwards.
This
point
I
think
that
reforming
it
would
be
something
that
would
involve
a
real
public
conversation,
but
it's
good
to
know
that
that
conversation
is
is
perhaps
more
in
our
hands
than
we
thought.
These
would
be.
K
The
question
of
you
know
what
goes
up
to
the
state
and
what
doesn't
I
just
wanted
to
flag
quickly
on
the
back
on
the
sort
of
composition
of
the
board
point
before
we
wrapped
up
having
having
had
a
little
bit
more
time
to
catch
up
now,
just
that
I
would
I
would
appreciate
it.
The
administration
would
consider
the
question
of
I
mean
obviously
for
a
board
like
this.
K
You
want
to
have
an
odd
number
of
people,
for
you
know
decision-making
purposes,
and
so
I
wonder
if,
in
addition
to
the
environmentalist
on
the
urban
planner
week,
think
about
whether
the
administration
would
be
open
to
adding
somebody
with
housing
expertise
as
the
fifth
person
in
place
of
the
at-large
seat.
Since
that's
the
one
existing
seat
that
doesn't
that
doesn't
is
an
isn't
sort
of
an
is
it
pulled
from
a
particular
constituency
at
the
moment.
K
Just
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
good
conversation
point
for
us
and
then
I
wonder
if
you
could
talk
about
you
know
we
have
these
two
residential
neighborhood
organization
members,
whether
it
could
make
sense
to
say
at
any
given
time.
You
know
one
of
them
needs
to
be
a
owner
occupant
and
one
of
them
needs
to
be
a
renter
or,
if
that's
too
exclusive
right,
whether
we're
saying
something
like
hey,
we've
got
all
these
different
appointed.
K
J
B
So
the
third
part
we
can
now
that
I
think
we've
resolved
the
the
conditions
for
the
variance.
That's
a
different
conversation,
we're
thinking
about
some
compromise
language
for
the
composition
of
the
board
to
move
it.
The
third
part
was
about
term
limits
and
I.
Don't
know
if
this
is
the
appropriate
venue
for
that
oral
petition
or
if
there's
another
way
to
do
it,
but
I
do
think
it's
worthy
of
the
conversation
of
how
many
times
a
person
can
be
reappointed
to
the
board.
I.
J
Think
at
the
last
hearing
this
was
raised
and
I
think
we
indicated
that
the
mayor
is
absolutely
open
that
conversation.
It
did
not
it's
funny
because
as
much
like
he's
talking
about
you
know,
if
we
can
take
things
in
our
own
hands
and
position
this
bill
for
success
at
the
Statehouse,
that's
how
we
should
do
it.
The
idea
that
this
can
be
accomplished
through
an
executive
order.
That's
that's.
J
J
Yeah
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
on
that.
I
would
have
to
go
back
and
talk
with
some
of
the
folks
and
I
would
stand
on
that
and
I
also
want
to
be.
You
know,
I
want
to.
You
know
just
be
very
transparent
with
you
know.
We
have
a
backlog
right
now
using
experience
counts,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
how
we
structure
this
so
that
we're
not
just
getting
all
the
experience
so
we
want
to.
J
B
I,
don't
know
where
the
terms
even
the
three-year
terms
are
provided,
for.
Maybe
that
would
help
us
in
understanding
which,
which
appropriate
vehicles
the
one
that
needs
to
be
amended.
I,
don't
know
if
it's
in
the
home
or
in
the
current
law
right
now
that
it's
a
three-year
term
or
was
that
created
by
the
administration
term,.
J
B
Okay,
I
appreciate
the
work
on
on
this
back
and
forth
in
the
executive
order
as
well.
My
other
question
to
be
a
matter
of
practicality-
and
this
is
you-
can
can
correct
me
on
the
effectiveness
of
an
executive
order,
I
understand
that
there
is
effective
as
the
executive
and
how
they
are
enforced
by
that
executive.
But
if
this
you
know
have
a
new
administration
or
ten
years
from
now,
the
executive
order
from
the
Walsh
administration
is
that
openness,
the
Walsh
administration,
is
in
in
power
to
enforce
it.
B
B
Attorney
for
the
City,
Council
and
I
can
go
through
the
analysis
of
the
you
know:
the
enforcement,
because
you
know
what
I
think
about
I
think
about
the
now,
but
I
also
think
we're
buying
these
people
too
in
the
future.
I
don't
want
hard
work
now,
they'd
be
just
for
this
moment
in
this
time.
You
know
ten
years
from
now
to
be
totally
undone.
B
E
B
Agree
and
I
think
that
helps
immediately
the
acute
pain
of
a
lot
of
people
and
their
concerns
right
now,
but
my
question
is:
is
more
like
how
to
make
sure
this
is
permanent.
It
requires
a
statute
to
make
it
permanent
or
not
so
I
will
check
in
with
Christine
about
that
or
not.
I
would
hope
that
everything
we
agree
on
could
be
in
a
statute,
if
necessary,
to
make
it
permanent
all
this
stuff.
We
agree
on.
B
B
For
a
lot
of
folks
and
I
want
to
thank
council
Ephrata
and
councillor
Bach
counselors
I'll
be
George,
councilor,
flirty
and
counsel
enjoined
us
today.
I
don't
have
any
well
I'll.
Give
them
update
conclusion
remarks,
but
I'll
turn
it
over
to
count
count
star,
Commissioner
iris.
You
raised
your
hand,
yes,.
E
I
would
invite
everyone
to
take
a
look
at
board
of
appeal
hearings,
particularly
the
last
several
weeks
of
hearings.
You
will
see
some
thoughtful
discussion,
these
standards
that
we
mentioned
prior
you
see
that
the
reference
stand
is
quite
often
in
making
decisions
now
that
they
have
and
a
more
manageable
agenda.
I
think
we're
they're
accomplishing
that
so
I
would
just
put
it.
B
F
F
That
is
so
so
often
one
of
the
one
of
the
reasons
that
developer
will
come
forward
and
ask
for
a
push
for
a
variance,
and
it
really
is,
should
not
even
be
entertained
as
an
excuse
for
asking
for
a
variance
there's
so
many
other
issues
that
at
stake
and
if
they
have
over
overextended
themselves
and
purchasing
a
property
speculatively
we
should
not
be.
We
should
not
be
asked
to
accommodate
that.
That's
their
problem.
K
K
Adding
those
seats
that
we
discussed
would
make
a
lot
of
sense
and,
and
especially
especially,
if
we
really
create
the
opportunity
for
the
members
of
his
EPA
to
bring
their
expertise
to
bear
on
these
issues.
Could
really
you
know
that,
along
with
some
of
the
other,
reforms
could
go
a
long
way
to
kind
of
establishing
a
track
record?
They
gave
the
public
greater
confidence
in
the
board
and
I.
Think
I.
Think
that
that
we
just
have
to
remember
that
that's
a
really
important
goal
in
this
whole
process
is
for
people.
K
You
want
people
to
feel
like
they
can.
They
have
reasonable
legitimate
expectations.
These
are
the
consistency
and
transparency
for
government
processes
like
these
and
that
they
can,
you
know,
see
public
servants
like
transparently
working
on
their
behalf
and
I.
Think
that's
where
we've
got
to
be
trying
to
get
so.
Thank
you
all
so
much
thank.
B
Excuse
me
it's
hearing
a
back
for
my
colleagues.
It
seems
that
there's
consensus
around
a
compromise
on
the
positions
but
making
sure
that
it
gets
to
the
Statehouse.
There
is
an
interest
in
allowing
for
us
to
continue
conversation
on
our
own,
with
some
sort
of
empowerment
on
this
composition
of
the
CBA
term.
Limits
are
absolutely
something
we're
interested
in.
We
will
follow
up
to
determine
of
what
vehicle
is
best
to
implement
those
term
limits.
This
is
something
that
the
council
and
the
administration
are
in
agreement
on
that
they
are
necessary.
B
The
question
is:
where
do
we
put
them?
I
think
I've
summarized
and
then
also
with
the
Picard's
to
the
standard
for
a
variance.
It
will
be
through
a
public,
prolonged
process
that
is
looking
at
section
7
and
looking
at
the
conditions
required
for
variants
going
forward.
I
want
people
to
know,
there's
been
significant
work
and
significant
change
for
how
we
do
business
at
the
CBA,
which,
as
a
district
city
councilor
note,
the
district
city
councillors
are
the
only
ones
left
on
the
on
this
call,
and
it's
because
probably
we
get
the
most
calls
up.
B
Zoning
we
absolutely
do,
and
and
this
the
the
process
in
the
CPA
was
in
much
needed,
was
in
much
need
of
improvement
of
inclusion.
I
noted
it
was,
it
was
borderline
shameful
that
it
was
only
in
English
knowing
the
diversity
of
our
communities,
and
there
has
been
a
mediate
response
to
that
from
the
administration
as
early
as
February
this
year,
I
think
I
reintroduced
this
in
January.
To
have
it
executive
order
done
by
February
is
it
is
a
direct
response
to
some
of
the
most
pressing
needs
and
concerns,
so
I
do.
Thank
you
for
that.
B
I
do.
Thank
you
for
that.
We,
where
we
disagree
is,
has
become
quite
narrow.
It's
a
matter
of
perspective
and
I
again.
I
acknowledge
that
and
so
I
think
we
will
be
able
to
get
something
done
and
out
to
the
State
House
on
the
29th.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
participation.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
quick
response
and
research.
This
is
to
Commissioner
Irish,
Chris,
John
and
I.
Think
Edie
was
here
the
entire
time
and
I
know
he
took
a
lot
of
no.
No
thank.