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Docket #0216 - Ordinance to establish guidelines for permitting retail residential kitchens
B
All
right
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
get
started
so.
Okay,
good
afternoon,
everyone,
I'm
city,
council,
lydia,
edwards,
chair
of
the
committee
on
government,
ops,
tuesday
march
9th
2021,
and
we're
here
today
for
virtual
working
session
on
docket
0-216,
an
ordinance
to
establish
guidelines
for
permitting
retail
residential
kitchens.
This
matter
was
sponsored
by
counselor.
Julia
mahia
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
january
27
2021
committee
held
a
hearing
on
the
stock
on
february
16
2021,
in
accordance
with
governor
baker's
march
12
2020
executive
order.
B
We
are
having
this
working
session
via
zoom.
This
allows
for
us
to
do
our
business
in
terms
of
city
council
and
also,
at
the
same
time,
balance
the
public
safety
needs
of
today.
The
public
may
watch
this
working
session
via
live
stream
at
www.boston.gov,
slash
teddy
dash
council
dash
tv
and
I
and
on
nxvinia
xfinity
excuse
me
8
rcn,
82
and
verizon
964.
B
B
This
ordinance
will
amend
the
city
of
boston
code
ordinances
by
allowing
for
retail
residential
permits
to
prepare
cottage
goods.
Operators
of
retail
residential
kitchens
would
be
required
to
comply
with
the
state
sanitary
code
and
would
be
subject
to
annual
inspections
by
the
health
division
of
the
city's
inspectional
services
department.
Applicants
for
these
permits
will
be
required
to
obtain
all
necessary
permits
and
regulatory
approvals,
including
approvals
from
the
zba
zoning
board
of
appeals.
B
At
the
hearing,
the
committee
heard
testimony
from
administration
officials
who
discussed
issues
concerning
jurisdiction,
authority
enforcement
and
resources.
Commissioner,
irish
explained
that
state
law
already
authorizes
residential
kitchens
and
that
the
city
will
create
an
enforcement
mechanism
through
zoning
rules
and
regulations.
B
So
today
I'm
going
to
introduce
my
colleague
I'll,
introduce
who's
participating
from
the
city,
who's
participating
in
terms
of
advocates
and
then
I'll
introduce
my
colleagues
for
some
brief
opening
remarks
and
then
we're
going
to
go
right
into
this
working
session.
I
am
fully
aware,
as
all
of
you
are,
that
council
me
has
also
filed
a
zoning
amendment
yesterday.
That
is
public.
What
we
cannot
do
is
discuss
the
language
of
that
zoning
amendment
today,
because
it
has
not
been
notified
that
we're
going
to
discuss
that
zoning
amendment.
B
Founder
of
many
youth
and
manisha
sethi,
a
technological
engineer
of
english.
So
again
so
we're
here
to
work
on
specific
language
of
the
docket
and
what
the
permit
process
would
look
like.
So
we're
we're
not
so
much
in
discussing
yes
or
no,
as
we
already
know,
is
legal.
It's
really
the
practicality
in
how
this
could
happen
and
whatever,
whatever
outstanding
issues
we
may
have
in
order
of
arrival,
my
colleagues
I'll
introduce
shortly,
we
have
counselor
a
vote.
Excuse
me:
counselor.
C
Yes
good
afternoon,
thank
you
to
the
chair
for
working
so
closely
with
our
office
to
schedule
this
working
session.
We
are
incredibly
grateful
for
all
the
hard
work
and
dedication
the
advocates,
the
administration
and
the
counselors
who
have
brought
to
this
project
during
our
last
hearing
we
heard
from
advocates
and
from
the
administration
that
they
support
this
project
and
look
forward
to
seeing
it
implemented.
C
We
received
nearly
10
written
written
testimonies
from
members
of
the
public
and
each
also
offering
their
support.
I
want
to
take
a
moment
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
we
heard
from
the
counselors.
We
heard
concerns
regarding
the
red
tape
that
would
be
created
through
the
zba
as
well
as
concerns
over
fire
safety
and
traffic.
C
We
prepared
and
sent
out
to
the
chair
an
amended
version
of
the
ordinance
which
states,
in
the
definition
section
that
the
actual
that
the
residential
kitchens
must
follow
the
zoning
code,
article
2a's
definition
of
accessory
home
occupation,
which
states
that
products
that
cannot
be
sold
on
site.
This
would
address
any
concerns
about
liabilities
to
the
of
landlords
as
well
as
traffic
concerns.
There
will
be.
There
will
be.
C
Excuse
me,
there
will
be
two
there
would
sorry
there
will
need
to
be
a
zoning
code,
amendment
to
address
retail
residential
kitchens
under
the
accessory
home
occupation
definition,
and
we
have
filed
a
text
amendment
as
council.
Edward
has
just
noted.
We
feel
the
edits
to
the
ordinance
addresses
the
concerns
raised
last
time
and
we
hope
to
see
this
ordinance
pass
as
soon
as
possible
to
ensure
that
people
can
get
to
work
and
creating
residential
kitchens
in
their
homes.
C
E
I
just
want
to
thank
the
maker
for
this
and
everybody
who's
trying
to
make
this
a
possibility.
I
think
if
this
allows
for
even
one
person
to
find
some
economic
help
and
the
ability
to
make
their
lives
better
at
home
with
the
talents
that
they
have
that
this
is
a
fantastic
program.
So
I
look
forward
to
seeing
what
it
takes
to
get
this
done,
and
I
want
to
apologize
in
advance
that
I'm
going
to
have
to
go
to
the
dps
budget.
Hearing.
A
E
F
F
Maybe
from
isd
at
the
appropriate
time
is
you
know
I
want
to
make
sure
we
have
enough
inspectors
that
are
able
to
inspect
these
residential
residential
kitchens.
So
I
think
it's
important
for
us
during
budget
season
during
the
budget
process,
to
come
down
during
the
appropriate
time
and
make
a
recommendation
that
we
need.
You
know
15
more
inspectors.
We
need
10
more
inspectors.
F
We
need,
you
know
20
more
inspectors,
because
residential
kitchens
are
going
to
be
opened,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
we
give
isd
the
tools
to
do
their
job
to
inspect
these
residential
kitchens.
I
don't
want
to
add
more
workload
to
the
current
inspectors
that
already
do
this,
that
wouldn't
that
want
to
be
very
fair
to
them.
F
So
I
want
to
make
sure
when,
if
this
does
take
place,
that
we
have
enough
funding
in
the
city
budget
to
hire
additional
inspectors.
That's
that's
a
critical,
critical
part
of
this,
because
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
inspectors
and
we're
not
overloading
the
current
inspectors
that
currently
do
this
job.
They
do
it
well,
they
take
their
job
very
professionally.
F
The
dedicated
city
employees.
I
have
great
respect
for
them,
but
I
don't
want
to
see
them
overloaded
with
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
new
cases
that
they
have
to
supervise
and
manage
as
well.
So
I
hope
I
hope
we
can
have
a
discussion
about
that
as
well.
Counselor
edwards.
Thank
you
very
much
to
the
administration
team.
Thank
you
very
much
as
well.
B
Okay,
I
don't
know
if
you've
enjoyed
by
any
other
colleagues
in
this
time.
I'm
happy
that
if
we
want
to
pull
up
the
language
or
if
the
administration
might
have
some
summary
thoughts
to
kind
of
walk
through
since
our
since
our
last
conversation,
I
can
also
bring
up
topic
by
topic
and
figure
out.
You
know
how
the
language
does
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
had
in
this
working
session.
I'm
just
looking
at
you,
the
commissioner,
of
course.
B
You
don't
know
that,
because
you
know
how
would
you
like
this
to
go
and
to
the
advocates?
While
you
were
great
in
giving
some
background
and
some
knowledge,
I
think
I'm
going
to
ask
that.
That's
the
major
role
that
you
play
today
as
we
talk
about
language
as
we
talk
about
implication,
raise
your
hands,
so
I
know
to
call
on
you
if
you
can
answer
that
conversation.
Okay,
so,
commissioner,.
B
Okay
and
and
then
the
newly
edited
language
counselor
you
sent,
you
said
you
sent
to
everyone,
so
we
all
have
it
in
our
inboxes
counselors
as
well.
Right,
yes,
that's
one
excellent,
so
I
guess
I
could
turn
to
you.
Would
you
prefer
to
go
topic
by
topic,
or
do
you
want
to
go
to
the
language
I,
as
in?
As
the
administration
said,
they
just
got
it.
It
might
make
sense
that
we
just
go
topic
by
topic.
A
little
higher
than
usual.
B
Is
that,
okay,
with
you,
councilor,
mojita,
absolutely
okie
dokie,
all
right!
I'm
just
pulling
up
my
list
of
topics
and
then
we
will
go
right
to
it.
Okay,
so
I
think
one
of
the
the
so
some
of
the
outstanding
issues
that
we
had
and
was
one
was
the
landlord-tenant
relationship
and
how
permanent
process
would
work
with
both
prop
both
parties.
B
I
recall
there
seemed
to
be
a
you
needed
evidence
of
the
landlord's
permission
to
go
forward
towards
the
zba
in
order
to
get
a
special
permit
if
this
comes
under
the
accessory
dwelling
unit.
If
you
want,
if
that's
where
we
still
are
standing
is
that
is
that
was
that
the
goal
like
I'm
looking
at
chris,
who
also
wouldn't
know
when
I'm
looking,
who
I'm
looking
at
chris
or
or
the.
H
Commissioner,
you
can
go
ahead
sure,
so
I
think
the
during
the
hearing.
When
we
talked
about
the
landlord-tenant
relationship,
I
think
it
was
focused
on
two
pieces
of
this.
One
is
a
regulatory
requirement
for
zba
cases,
so
a
tenant
cannot
submit
a
zba
appeal
without
being
fully
authorized
by
the
property
owner,
since
it
is
a
formal
change
to
the
property,
so
there
would
need
to
be
a
formal
document
authorizing
the
tenant
to
apply
on
behalf
of
the
property
owner
for
zba
related
matters.
H
I
think
the
other
side
is
more
of
a
a
permitting
side.
Question
for
isd
health
division
when
we're
issuing
or
reviewing
applications
for
a
food
service
permit
or
a
cottage
food
permit,
and
you
know,
having
a
permission
document.
It
helps
us
so
that
we
know
that
we're
not
permitting
something
that
the
property
owner
has
a
problem
with.
So
one
is
is
sort
of
that
regulatory
requirement
for
zba
appeals.
The
other
is
more
of
a
a
permitting
requirement
for
just
the
the
permanent.
B
General,
so
councilman
hughes
is
it
from
from
my
understanding,
then
this
with
this
this
process
of
just
basically
getting
the
landlord's
permission.
Actually,
I'm
sorry
before
I
go
to
your
counselor
so
chris,
is
it
a
form
that
they're
gonna
fill
out?
Is
it
a
letter
of
attestation?
What
exactly
would
the
tenant
have
a
form
to
go
to
the
landlord
they
sign
it
and
then
the
tenant
submits
it
or
they
provide
all
the
forms
of
the
landlord
for
the
landlord
to
submit.
A
B
H
G
I
just
want
to
chime
in
on
that,
because
we
don't
think
it
necessarily
has
to
be
a
variance
that
would
be
permanently
attached.
It
could
be
something
that
is
for
a
petitioner
only,
and
we
only
feel
strongly
about
the
need
for
a
variance
if
there's
going
to
be
direct
sales
to
customers
from
the
residence
itself,
you
know
either
in
person
or
via
delivery,
if
someone's
selling
it
at
at
markets
or
craft
fairs
or
via
mail,
then
you
know
we're
we're
flexible
on
how
we
would
approach
that.
B
B
H
H
B
B
G
B
G
A
B
D
G
B
C
I
think
a
lot
of
these
were
already
addressed
in
the
existing
language,
so
I
feel
I
feel
good
with
this.
I
just
think
that
I
know
that
we're
not
talking
about
the
text
amendment
that
we
file,
but
I
think
some
of
that
will
will
ease
that
piece
of
it
and
as
for
sale,
direct
to
consumer,
the
existing
language
says
that
that
can't
happen.
C
B
I
think
you're,
you
are
correct,
so
the
other
question
I
I
think
that
came
under
landlord
tenant
was-
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understood
where
we
landed
on
this-
was
liability
for
the
and
I
think
we
discussed
different
forms
of.
I
actually
think
it
was
irene
who
brought
up
the
different
forms
of
of
insurance
to
protect
the
landlord
because
irene
or
andre,
I
think
who
brought
it
up
last
time.
B
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear
that
that's
a
product-
oh,
no,
no
manisha,
maybe
all
three
of
you
brought
it
up.
I
think
that
there's
a
way
to
have
insurance
to
protect
the
landlord.
Let's
say
someone
gets
that
you
know
digestive
problems
from
whatever's
been
sold
from
their
building
or
we
just
make
sure
that
that
that
plane
was
landed.
That
product
exists
to
protect
the
landlord.
B
B
B
I
A
B
C
Language,
I'm
sorry
I
was
on
mute.
All
the
apartments
are
already
required
to
have
fire
systems
in
place
right.
So
so
it's
not
directly
the
issue
with
this.
I
think
the
main
concern
had
to
do
with
traffic
and
the
thing
that
I
believe
that
is
really
more
about
that
and
avoiding
on-site
sales
that
what
they
cannot
do
on-site
sales
so
that
there
won't
be
a
large
congestion
outside
their
door.
C
I
Okay,
counselor,
I
might
just
add
that
it
may
be
worthwhile
to
bring
in
fire
to
that
conversation.
Considering
not
every
at-home
kitchen
might
be
in
an
apartment.
There
may
be
folks
using
their
single
stories
or
triple
deckers
that
don't
have
the
same
fire
code
requirements
to
weigh
in
their
opinion
and
I'll
defer
to
chris
and
the
commissioner
here
on
that.
C
That's
a
really
good
point:
natalia
thank
you
for
bringing
it
I'm
curious
if
there's
a
way
for
us
to
modify
update
the
language
in
a
way
that
kind
of
makes
it
specific
to
the
different
types
of
buildings
and
the
different
types
of
fire
codes
that
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
chris.
Any
thoughts
on
that.
H
I
would
say
the
the
fire
code
requirement
is
part
of
the
state
building
code
right.
So
there
are
certain
sizes
of
properties.
One
and
two
families
under
a
certain
amount
of
square
feet,
are
not
required
to
have
sprinklers
and
property
pre-code
structures.
I
think
don't
need
to
be
sprinkled,
but
I
think
that
would
be
addressed
in
the
sanitary
code
requirement
for
the
residential
kitchen
permit
to
say
that
the
fires-
I
don't
know
I
would
assume-
I
don't
know
the
language
of
the
sanitary
code
as
it
relates
to
the
cottage
food
businesses.
C
So
no
I'm
just
curious.
You
know
I'm
just
this
is
just
I'm
thinking
out
loud.
If
these
kitchens
are
safe
enough
to
cook
for
non-retail
purposes,
I'm
just
curious
about
what
could
make
them
unsafe
to
cook
for
retail
purposes.
I
mean
I'm
not
envisioning
super
duper
kind
of
like
I'm,
not
envisioning
a
restaurant
type
of
kitchen
stove,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of
like
what,
where
this
kind
of
what
you're
envisioning,
like
I'm
cooking
in
my
kitchen,
24
hours
a
day
several
weeks,
but
I'm
not
doing
it
for
retail
purposes.
C
C
B
I
go
to
eumenesia.
I
would
like
to
tag
on
to
counselor
mejia's
question.
Essentially
you
know
not
only
what
is
the
difference
in
and
and
the
difference
between
the
two
I
I
I
would
venture
it's
a
matter
of
volume
that
you
are
using
it
extensively
much
more,
but
I
don't
I
don't
know
so
if
you
can
speak
to
that,
but
also
just
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
have
the
existing
example
of
the
adu.
B
You
know
kind
of
plans
right
and
it
was.
It
was
really
exciting
to
see
how
we
were
able
to
do
something
else
with
our
property
within
within
the
envelope
of
the
property,
and
when
we
got
that
we
had
then
had
to
do
sprinkler
systems
and
as
a
result
it
it
made
it
a
very
costly
for
a
lot
of
folks
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
the
new
zoning
zoning
benefit.
B
I
thought
it
was
an
incredibly
creative
way
to
think
about
that,
and
so,
as
we're
having
this
conversation,
we
may
increase
in
volume
as
counselor
he
is
trying
to.
We
may
because
that's
what
councilman
hannah
are
kind
of
struggling
with,
but
also,
if
we're
increasing
standards
that
result
in
people
not
being
able
to
afford
to
meet
them.
That
would
be
a
shame
and
and
if
they
can,
you
can
address
that
and
then
we'll
go
to
menish
and
a
couple.
Other
people
raise
their
hands.
G
Yeah,
I
would
say
I
think
it's
a
little
different
conversation
than
with
the
adus,
because
there
are
already
existing
laws
relative
to
when
you
have.
You
know
three
units
instead
of
two
it
triggers.
It
puts
you
in
a
different
category
for
fire
safety,
and
so
I
think
the
the
fire
department's
main
concern,
as
it
always
is,
is
like
fire
safety,
particularly
with
units
that
are
that
are
below
grade
that
are
maybe
not
as
easy
to
escape
from
relative
to
this.
G
G
You
know
a
burdensome,
a
barrier,
that's
insurmountable
we're
just
looking
at
like
what
are
like
easy
things
to
do
that
we
could
just
help
someone
who's
now
going
to
sort
of
transition,
your
kitchen
from
being
purely
making
meals
for
your
own
family
to
now
you're
making
things
for
for
sale
to
the
public.
So
there
will
be
an
increase
in
use.
Are
there
some
common
sense
things
that
we
could
think
about
just
to
make
it
safer?
But
absolutely
I
get
it
we're
not
looking
to
create
such
a
huge
barrier.
J
J
Which
is
why
I
think-
and
I
brought
this
up
in
the
october
hearing
on
this
initiative-
why
I
think
it's
so
important
that
this
type
of
operation,
retail
residential
kitchens,
is
defined
within
the
zoning
code,
so
that
that's
a
use
as
of
right
and
the
permitting
on
the
permitting
end.
I
think
there's
still
nuance
to
how
we
could
go,
how
the
isd
and
could
go
about
getting
landlord
approval
and
making
sure
that
the
foods
that
are
permitted
is
is
permissible,
but
yeah
on
one
end.
J
It's
we
don't
want
to
create
an
overly
complicated
burden
and,
on
the
other
end,
we
we
have
to
keep
in
mind
that
referencing
what
counselor
mahia
just
mentioned
in
terms
of
use
of
kitchen,
irrespective
of
if
I'm
selling
it
just
making
sure
that
we're
keeping
in
mind
that
these
are
accessory
to
the
unit
and
not
you
know
a
business
solely
for
the
purpose
of
I.
I
don't
live
in
a
business
I
live
in
my
home
and
accessory
to
that
is
a
retail
residential
kitchen.
So
just
that
comment.
B
D
I
think
andre
stated
it
well,
so
I
that's
basically
what
I
was
trying
to
say.
I
have
reached
out
for
precedence
here
in
the
town
of
wellesley
to
the
fire
department
here,
but
we
have
different
type
of
codes
and
not
as
many
multi-dwelling
units
here
so
we're
in
a
different
field,
but
I
think
andre
stated
it
very
well.
So
thank
you.
C
Yeah,
I
I
would
have
to
say
thank
god
for
the
advocates
because
they
know
what's
up,
they
know
how
to
speak
in
ways
that
we
can
all
understand.
So,
thank
you
so
much
for
bringing
that
out.
I
really
do
appreciate
that's
exactly
the
sentiment
that
we
were
trying
to
get,
but
you
did
a
great
job
at
hitting
that
home
run.
So
thank
you.
You
know
I'm
just.
C
I
always
go
back
to
the
fact
that
this
is
something
that
already
on
the
state
level
is,
is
already
authorized
and
approved,
and
you
know
I
keep
going
back
to
how
other
cities
and
towns
have
managed
to
to
do
this.
So
I'm
really
hoping
that
we
can.
We
can
get
there
as
a
city
and
then
just
to
respond
to
isd's
comments.
You
guys
will
have
to
do
an
inspection
of
the
properties
right.
C
So
if
there
are
any
reasons
why
upon
expection,
where
can
I
raise
my
hand,
the
the
kitchen
is
not
able
to
be
a
retail
kitchen.
So
then,
be
it
like
that's
part
of
the
process
right
so
like
let's
say,
for
instance,
when
you
do
the
inspection
you
could
just
say
well,
based
on
x
y
and
z,
you're,
not
able
to
function
as
a
retail
kitchen.
Is
it
could
it
be
as
simple
as
that.
G
K
So
if
a
residential
kitchen
operator
or
entrepreneur
in
this
case
is
making
over
25
000
in
revenue,
then
they
are
poised
to
actually
moved
into
a
shared
use
kitchen,
which
is
why
it's
absolute
it's
beneficial
to
their
operations
and
their
entrepreneurship
efforts.
So
in
this
case
they
would
have
figured
out
their
customers.
They
would
have
figured
out
the
pricing.
B
B
My
question
really
kind
of
comes
around
like
the
wrap
around
services
the
city
might
do.
This
is
ta
technical
assistance
and
also
is
this
something
that
we
would
think
would
kind
of.
Also,
should
we
bring
in
the
office
of
emerging
industries,
I
mean
this.
Is
I
mean
while
it
is
solely
dealing
with
cannabis
at
this
time?
This
would
be
one
of
those
emerging
industries
in
boston.
B
We
hope
that
grows
and
a
lot
of
what
comes
from
that
office
is
kind
of
an
advocacy,
an
internal
advocacy
wing
within
the
city
of
boston,
for
an
emerging
industry
saying
you
know
you
have
too
much
red
tape
over
here.
You
guys
aren't
considering
this
ta
technical
assistance.
Literally,
we
give
out
grants
for
emerging
businesses
in
cannabis.
If,
if
suddenly
like,
for
example,
traffic
studies
became
a
big
deal
for
the
dispensaries,
the
city
helps
to
pay
for
them
for
some
equity
applicants.
B
I
So
I
can
speak
to
just
the
existing
services
that
are
available.
As
you
mentioned,
counselor
there
are
existing
resources
for
all
small
businesses.
We
offer
technical
assistance
that
comes
in
the
way
of
marketing
web
design,
legal
accounting,
like
you
name
it,
we
offer
those
services.
I
think,
obviously
I
will
leave
it
up
to
this
group
to
bring
in
other
folks
to
speak
on.
I
You
know
other
resources
that
are
available,
but
what
I
might
recommend
is
that
until
we
know
how
many
businesses
are
going
to
need
support-
and
you
know
what
this
actually
ends
up-
looking
like
at
the
city
of
boston,
I
would
say
that
for
now
my
my
office
is
available
to
support
any
and
all
businesses
that
come
to
us
for
help
on
this.
You
know
we're
constantly
building
our
ta
program
to
include
new
and
creative
business
support
opportunities.
I
I
I
can't
speak
about
the
office
of
emerging
industries
because
I
don't
know
what
resources
that
they
have
available,
but
I
can
see
that
the
small
business
office
currently
does
have
resources
available
for
small
businesses
and
would
be
more
than
happy
to
support
businesses
in
that
way,
and
that
I
mean
those
wrap
around
services
include
support
through
permitting.
You
know,
support
through
kind
of
all
elements
of
what
businesses
need
to
go
through.
I
C
I
haven't
heard
anything,
I'm
just
curious.
What
what
other
things
we
in
regards
to
the
actual
ordinance?
That's
in
the
language
in
itself
that
we
should
also
be
tackling
while
we're
here,
you
know
the
need
for
the
landlord's
support
it
states
that
food
cannot
be
sold
on
site.
It
says
that
any
exact
inspections
or
protocols
that
need
to
be
followed
are
enforced
by
existing
protocols.
So
I'm
just
curious.
You
know,
as
we
continue
to
move
through
this.
C
I
love
the
fact
that
we're
already
thinking
about
other
departments
that
could
potentially
support
this.
So
I
really
do
appreciate
counselor
edwards
thinking
about
this
as
an
emerging
market
and
an
emerging
support
group.
Is
that
something
that
you
are
recommending
that
we
include
in
the
ordinance
as
part
of
something
that
happens,
or
it
was
just
something
so
that
I
I'm
understanding
the
the
process.
B
B
I
I
remembered
that
it
allowed
for
a
a
nimble
conversation
that
dealt
with
specifically
cannabis,
because
the
regulations
were
changing
and
there
was
always
like
a
move
around
and
trying
to
figure
those
things
out
and
there
because
of
the
zoning
we
were,
you
know
some
people
could
apply
within
a
half
mile
and
couldn't,
but
we
didn't
know
where
everyone
was,
and
so
you
know
it
may
be
that,
because
this
is
done
already
and
it's
it's
not
a
statewide
emerging
industry
right
with
new
regs
with
a
hostile
federal
government.
We
may
not
need
oei.
B
C
Yeah,
no,
I
know
I
guess
I
guess
you
know.
We've
been
working
on
this
for
a
long
time,
and
I
know
that
everyone,
the
advocates
and
everyone
has-
is
really
anxious
for
the
moving
forward,
and
I
I
definitely
want
to
stay
right
back
on
track
to
amending
the
actual
language
so
that
it
can
pass.
The
goal
is
for
us
to
get
something
passed.
So
policies
and
protocols
are
not
as
specific
here,
because
the
city
has
already
existing
policies
and
protocols
that
they
need.
C
C
B
D
You
know
I
I
have
a
hard
stop
at
about
five
after
five
I
apologize,
but
I
just
wanted
to
just
add
on
to
natalia's
point
and
counselor
edward's
yours.
I
think
once
you
see
some
analytics
behind
the
economic
viability
that
this
will
eventually
bring,
you
will
realize
that
what
you
all
are
doing
is
of
great
benefit
to
multiple
constituents
and
a
correct
technology
and
used
in
the
correct
fashion
can
offer
you
this
analytics.
So
I
can
you
know
just
building
on
to
counselor
mahia's
comments.
I
hope
that
we
can
make
this
work.
B
Thank
you,
and
just
just
just
to
be
clear.
We
also
the
reason
why
we're
going
based
on
topic
and
not
in
the
language
is
we
kind
of
agreed
to
talk
of
existing
topics,
so
I'm
I'm
just
going
to
continue
to
top
on
talk
about
the
existing
topic.
I
have
only
a
couple
more
left
and
these
are
again
some
things
that
were
discussed
that
we
wanted
to
finish
that
sentence
today,
so
we
discussed
landlord,
we
discussed
the
zoning
and
the
permitting
process.
H
B
K
I
would
like
for
the
committee
to
please
consider
that
the
food
entrepreneur
not
only
take
the
servsafe
class
which
I've
taken
and
the
state
allergens,
but
also
that
they
take
the
umass
class
and
a
number
of
other
classes
which
also
build
up
on
the
food
safety
and
reinforcement
of
the
importance
of
food
safety
to
the
public.
And
I
mean
that
would
not
only
be
great
for
the
entrepreneur,
their
brand,
but
also
just
city
government,
just
us
as
a
committee.
So
there
are
a
number
of
classes
that
are
essential.
K
A
great
example
I'm
currently
applying
to
get
into
some
shared
use.
Some
shared
use
kitchens
and
I
was
told
by
commonwealth
kitchen
that
I
need
to
take
another
class.
So
it's
a
it's
more
complex
and
I'm
happy
to
work
with
natalia
to
make
this
list
of
classes
so
that
the
entrepreneur
is
really
ready
and
understands
the
importance
of
food
safety
and
current
gmp
practices
around
sanitation
and
their
protocols
on.
K
K
B
A
K
This
is
mainly
because
I'm
in
the
process
of
applying
to
a
commercial
kitchen-
and
I
thought
I
had
all
of
my
bells
and
whistles-
but
apparently
I
don't
so
I
was
told
I
have
to
take
more
classes
so,
but
in
this
particular
working
session
I
can
work
with
natalia
and
we
can
create
a
list
and
we
can
share
with
the
committee,
but
definitely
the
product
safety
is
a
must.
The
product
safety
at
umass
amherst
is
phenomenal.
I
I
I
think
what
isd
and
dan
in
particular
have
mentioned
in
the
past
is
around.
You
know,
proving
that
someone
has
been
you
know,
educated
on
the
requirements
for
handling
food.
As
far
as
business
development,
I
mean
our
office
puts
together
workshops
and
trainings
to
help
businesses
with
their.
You
know
business,
development
and
and
those
types
of
things,
but
I
I
think
we
would
either
need
to
put
out
a
public
procurement
after
receiving
some.
I
You
know
funding
to
be
able,
then
to
establish
a
partnership,
because
I
think
the
limitations
there
are
around
you
know
picking
one
program
over
or
the
other,
and
I
just
would
hesitate
to
make
additional
requirements
of
businesses.
You
may
have
very
you
know,
experienced
business
owners
trying
to
do
this
at
home,
and
you
know
for
have
them
to
have
to
pay
to
do
another
class
to
then
go
through
the
class.
To
then
apply
for
a
permit,
I
think,
would
be
an
undue
burden
on
business
owners.
I
B
Of
of
hands
and
yes
I'll,
give
you
an
opportunity
to
respond,
but
we
had
councillor
flynn,
councillor
mejia,
then
dan
and
I'm
so
sorry
dion.
You
took
your
hand
down,
so
I
I'm
good.
I
apologize
so
so.
Go
ahead,
irene
very
briefly
in
response
and
then
we're
going
to
go
to
the
other
folks
who
have
some
comments.
K
Development
class
at
umass
actually
walks
the
food
entrepreneur
through
labeling
allergens
hazard
analysis
how
to
create
a
flow
chart,
meaning
when
you
get
your
food,
how?
What
do
you
do
when
you
put
in
the
refrigerator?
When
do
you
clean
your
countertops?
It
talks
about
gmp
practices,
it's
a
very
fundamental
class
and,
most
importantly,
it
is
affordable.
K
K
B
B
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
edwards.
I
jumped
off
the
call
a
little
while
ago
for
for
another
meeting.
I
don't
know
if
it's
appropriate
for
me
to
ask
my
question
now
it's
related
to
the
subject,
but
it
might
be
unrelated
to
this
specific
topic
here,
but
is
it
okay?
If
I
absolutely
okay?
Okay,
thank
you
council
edwards.
So
I
just
wanted
to
ask
commissioner
irish
or
chief
english.
F
G
Thank
you,
council.
Then
we
we're
unable
to
to
answer
that
question
at
this
time,
because
of
exactly
why
you
stated
we
don't
have
any
idea
of
what
the
volume
is
going
to
look
like.
I
can
tell
you.
We
currently
have
18
inspectors.
We
are.
We
just
received
a
packet
of
folks
that
we're
going
to
be
interviewing,
so
we're
going
to
be
bringing
on
two
more
additional
inspectors.
F
F
I
always
ask
department
heads
if
they
have
issues
to
come
down
during
budget
process
budget
season,
and
let
us
know
that
there's
you
don't
have
enough
funding
and
I
always
ask
them:
do
you
have
enough
funding
and
the
answer
is
always?
Yes,
we
have
enough,
but
I
know
you
need
more
inspectors.
I
know
dan
needs
more
inspectors.
F
So
that's
why
I'm
I'm
I'm
stressing
that
you
know
we
need
a
plan,
a
financial
plan,
to
make
sure
that
when
this
is
enacted
we
have
the
funding
to
hire
immediately
inspectors.
That's
that's
important
and
you
know
I
I.
I
think
this
is
a
good
program,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
we
commit
the
money
for
it
too.
That's
also
important
and
just
wanted
to
get
dan's
dan's
opinion,
because
I
see
the
inspectors
all
the
time
in
the
city.
They
do
a
tremendous
job
and
they're
very
professional.
I
think
they're
overworked.
F
G
So,
council,
I'm
happy
to
let
dan
you
know
chime
in,
but
I
just
want
to
say
that
we
we
did
ask
the
mayor
for
more
inspectors
and
we
did
get
more
inspectors
in
this
budget
and-
and
I
want
to
thank
the
council
for
approving
that,
and
so
we're
going
to
be
adding
additional
inspectors
to
the
field
very
shortly.
Dan.
Do
you
have
anything
to
add.
F
F
C
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
and
I
I'm
all
for
workers
rights.
I
usually
have
to
have
two
jobs
just
so
I
can
make
my
own
ends
meet,
so
this
is
the
first
time
that
I
only
need
one
job
so
totally
I
respect
flynn's
advocacy
on
behalf
of
our
overworked
population.
I
wasn't
until
recently
one
of
those
people
I
I
do
have
a
question
though,
in
regards
to
because
this
is
the
new
initiative.
I
think
the
question
that
counselor
finn
is
bringing
up.
C
I
think
it
would
be
important
for
us
to
reevaluate
it
once
the
program
is
initiated
just
to
kind
of
really
realistically
see
the
workload
and
to
see
whether
or
not
this
is
something
that
is
going
to
be
burdensome
like.
I
think
that
I
think
that
what
we
should
include
or
even
consider
saying,
is
that
we'll
see
what
this
looks
like
and
then
in
the
next
year's
budget
we
can
determine
based
on
how
many
residential
kitchens
have
popped
up.
C
So
I
think
that
that
would
be
one
way
to
address
it,
because
we
need
that
data
to
be
able
to
be
able
to
fairly
assess
that,
and
I
think
the
overworking
situation
that
is
even
before
this
ordinance
came
into
play.
So
I
think
let's
just
keep
it
a
hundred
if
we
need
to
pay
these
isd
workers
even
more.
Let's
do
that
right.
Now,
let's
get
more
right
now,
even
before
this
ordinance
came
up
into
this
place,
because
this
has
nothing
to
do
with
that.
C
I
think
that
that
is
a
a
whole
other
conversation
and,
if
I'm
clear
around
this
commissioner
irish,
this
will
be
a
once
in
a
year.
Inspection
right
like
like,
let's
say,
for
instance,
20
applicants
applied
for
this.
This
this
inspection
will
only
happen
at
the
time
of
at
the
time
that
they
apply
right.
It'll,
be
it's
not
like.
Y'all
gonna
be
rolling
out
like
every
two
months.
C
L
C
And
great,
thank
you
for
that
clarity
and
I
just
kind
of
want
to
go
back
really,
quick
in
regards
to
the
umass
situation.
I
think
that
it's
just
important
for
us
to
I
I
agree
with
natalya,
and
I
also
agree
with
irena,
to
think
it's
a
good
idea
for
us
to
be
really
thorough,
but
I
don't
know
if
writing
it
into
the
ordinance
or
identifying
a
particular
program
to
name
would
be
the
right
course
of
action
at
this
stage
of
the
game.
C
I
think
that
what
the
the
small
business
the
economic
development
can
do
is
potentially
provide
just
information
on
their
website
of
the
different
types
of
programs
that
exist
and
that
people
can
choose
whatever
makes
the
most
sense
for
them
their
budget
their
time
and
have
that
a
little
bit
that
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
around.
What
that
would
look
like
excellent.
L
L
As
far
as
licensing
goes,
there
is
an
established
process
where
we
will
be
looking
for
at
minimum
certified
food
manager
requirement
and
allergen
awareness
training,
not
sure
it's
needed
to
get
a
residential
kitchen
permit.
However,
I
am
in
full
support
of
the
umass
program
that
you
mentioned
as
providing
businesses,
some
some
alternative
tools,
and
you
know
assistance
to
to
help
them
in
the
industry.
L
You
know,
as
as
residential
kitchens
they'll
be
allowed
and
permitted
to
prepare
and
sell
cottage
foods.
You
know,
by
definition,
on
tcs
or
time
temperature
control
for
safety
foods.
You
know
therefore
certified
food
manager
and
allergen
awareness
training,
I
think,
would
be
sufficient
to
start
at
this
at
this
time.
So
thank
you.
H
H
H
You
know
like
a
snow,
plowing
business,
for
example,
so
we
just
wanted
to
include
that
in
the
ordinance
the
other
would
be
related
to
advertising
and
requiring
that
the
isd
permit
number
be
included
on
any
advertising
online
advertising
similar
to
how
we
do
short-term
rentals,
for
example,
so
that
one
the
customer
knows
that
the
business
is
certified
and
permitted
from
isd
and
to
just
for
compliance
purposes.
For
us.
C
B
C
H
C
F
Thank
you,
council,
edwards,
yeah
right.
I
agree
with
chris
english.
I
think
there
should
be
something
in
writing
about
outdoor
advertising.
Many
of
you
know
this
is
a.
This
is
a
bigger
issue,
but
I've
dealt
with
outdoor
advertising
in
in
my
district
and,
if
you
don't
have
it
written
down,
it
makes
it
much
more
difficult
for
you
when
someone
tries
to
put
out
outdoor
advertisement
up
and
then
going
back
to
to
change
the
law
on
it.
So
I
I
agree
with.
I
agree
with
chris.
F
Just
wanted
to
add
one
more
issue
relating
to
that
chris.
Would,
when
a
client
would
come
into
the
restaurant,
I
mean
I'm
sorry
when
a
client
would
come
into
the
residential
residential
kitchen.
Would
the
with
the
customer
rather?
Would
the
customer
see
the
certificate
of
inspection
hung
up
on
the
wall
like
you
traditionally
do
at
a
any
restaurant
or
a
bar.
F
L
C
So
I
do
have
a
quick,
I'm
just
curious
in
terms
of
the
signage
I'm
just
curious.
Oh
yes,
kenzie
bach
is
in
the
house.
Okay,
I'm
just
curious,
like
I
I
don't
know
who
can
you
know,
I
would
love
to
meet
the
person
who
cannot
afford
to
have
a
commercial
kitchen
space,
but
then
can
afford
a
big
signage.
So
I'm
curious
when
you
talk
about
how
it
will
alter
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
What
kind
of
signage
are
you
thinking
about?
C
A
B
Trying
to
it's
not
so
much
prohibiting
as
making
sure
that
this
is
consistent
with
laws
that
are
already
there.
We
agree
with
you.
I
agree
with
you,
council
me.
If
they're
already
there,
then
maybe
it's
just
referencing
to
the
laws
that
are
already
there
versus
creating
a
whole
new
set
in
this
zoning
yeah
that
that
might
just
make
more
sense.
B
And
that
way,
because
you
know-
and
I
know
there
are
some
incredibly
creative
artistic
folks
out
there,
who
will
figure
out
a
way
they'll
figure
out
a
way
to
advertise
their
wares
and
and
and
good
good
for
them,
they're
in
the
hustle
they're
trying
to
do
what
they
have
to
do.
But
if
we
just
make
it
clear,
you
have
to
comply
with
certain
laws
that
are
already
on
the
books
right:
we're
not
adding
anything
or
subtracting
anything
either.
C
M
Counselor,
can
I
don't
know
if
I
could
be
helpful
here,
but
it's
article
11
of
the
zoning
code
really
regulates
the
kind
of
science
you
can
do
in
residential
areas
and
it
probably
does
prohibit
you
know
this
kind
of
signage.
I
think
chris
english's
point
was
more.
One
of
you
know:
don't
make
people
dig
through
the
zoning
code
to
find
out.
You
know,
find
article
11
and
figure
out
how
that
applies
to
them.
Just
have
it
in
there
and
so
it's
easier
for
them
to
find.
M
So
they
know
right
up
front
because
you
don't
want
to
get,
have
people
spend
money
and
believe
you
me
people
spend
money
on
signs
and
then
they
find
they
can't
put
them
up,
and
it's
very
frustrating.
So
you
may,
I
think,
that's
more
of
a
matter
of
not
telling
people
what
to
do
but
more.
You
know
giving
them
a
heads
up,
so
they
don't
go
down
the
wrong
path.
M
C
M
Yeah,
you
know,
and
it's
you
would
be
you'd,
be
surprised.
How
often
that
happens.
If
somebody,
you
know
they
get
excited,
they've
got
a
new
business
or
whatever,
and
they
go
out
and
spend
a
ton
of
money
on
a
big
new
sign
and
find
out
that
they
can't
do
it
and
they
can't
get
that
money
back
so
it
just.
It's
mainly
keep
people
from
making
a
mistake
in
the
first
place,
and
you
know
that's
that's
no
way
to
start
off
your
new
businesses
to
drop.
N
Thanks
so
much
counselor,
edwards
and
and
counselor
mejia,
I'm
still
really
excited
about
this
and
sorry
that
I
missed
the
first
hour.
Although
my
my
aide
has
taken
excellent
notes,
so
I've
I
think
kind
of
caught
up,
but
I
just
wanted
one
comment
on
this
last
point
was
just
yeah.
I
think
we
should
be.
I
think
we
should
be
trying
to
make
it
clear
for
the
folks
who
are
participating.
N
So,
as
brian
said,
they
don't
splash
out
on
something
they
can't
have
up,
and
then
I
also
think
that,
like
structurally
right,
it's
a
goal
of
ours
like
like
the
whole,
I
think,
like
the
whole
goodness
of
this
idea,
is
that
this
is
a
straightforward
thing
that
people
should
be
able
to
do
that.
There
are
like
that.
They're
already
set
up
to
do
in
their
home
kitchens,
and
it
benefits
all
of
our
like
local
entrepreneurs.
You
don't
want
to
end
up
in
a
situation
where
these
people
are
unnecessarily
pit
against
their
residential
neighbors.
N
Nor
do
you
want
to
end
up
in
a
situation
where
small
businesses
and
business
districts
are
resenting,
the
folks
in
the
residential
districts.
So
I
think,
what's
good
about
the
signage
thing
is
like:
if
we
don't
take
care
of
it,
I
can
imagine
a
world
in
which
residential
kitchen
businesses
are
getting
into
conflicts
with
their
neighbors
over
the
signage
and
then
that's
becoming
a
reason.
N
People
are
trying
to
stop
it
and
we
don't
want
to
see
that
and
then
I
think
it's
also
just
kind
of
fair
to
the
commercial
businesses
for
everything
to
be
kind
of
operating
under
the
existing
rules.
So
I
think
there's
a
good
opportunity
to
do
this
and
I
agree
with
the
counselor
mcgee.
It
shouldn't
slow
this
thing
down,
but
I
think
there's
a
way
to
just
refer
to
what
we've
got
already
and
make
it
straightforward.
N
And
then
I
know
that
it's
now
sort
of
complicated,
because
I
think
counselor
mejia
has
the
other
zoning
docket
in
coming
before
the
body
this
week.
So
I
imagine
counselor
edwards
you'll
be
kind
of
doing
a
hearing
around
that,
but
because
of
how
they're
connected
I
I
just
wondered.
If
I
could
no
we're
not.
N
I
wasn't
going
to
ask
a
language
question,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
a
question
about
this
docket
then,
which
is
just
I.
I
think
that
the
am
I
right
counselor
mejia,
that
you
guys
proposed
an
edit
here
that
takes
out
the
reference
to
that
takes
out
the
reference
to
like
approval
from
the
zba,
because
really
you're
going
to
deal
in
the
you're
going
to
deal
in
the
zoning
amendment
side,
with
kind
of
what
will
even
require
an
appeal
for
a
conditional
use.
B
N
B
C
B
No
problem,
so
I
I
think
where,
where
this
lands
in
this
working
session,
we
just
made
sure
to
finish
some
of
the
conversation
we
had
before.
I
I
don't
believe
in
any
way
shape
or
form
we're
able
to
do
anything
with
hot
foods.
At
this
moment.
Am
I
correct,
because
state
law
is
only
about
cottage
foods?
B
Okay,
so
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
and
and
how
we
could
begin
that
process
that
might
be
for
another
hearing,
then
so
in
as
much
as
hot
foods
are
taken.
Care
of.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
were
clear,
though,
when
it
came
to
deliveries,
though
they're
not
direct
to
consumer
deliveries
or
impacts
on
traffic,
we
were
going
to
require
okay.
Does
that
include?
If
you
make
food
in
your
in
your
unit
for
sale,
at
a
food
truck
or
for
sale
at
a
push?
B
A
B
Okay,
thank
you
so
much.
I
do
not
have
any
further
questions.
I
I
do
like
the
suggestions
for
the
from
isd
on
the
current
language.
Yes,
as
counselor
bach
alluded
to
there's
a
pending
zoning
amendment
to
be
presented
to
this
committee,
we
will
likely
combine
the
conversations
of
both
that
and
this
existing
amendment
of
speaking
with
council
mejia.
B
She
may
want
to
supplant
one
for
the
other,
which
is
also
what
is
totally
within
her
her
purview
to
decide,
and
then
we
will
be
able
to
continue
this
conversation
and,
as
she
has
suggested,
move
towards
equity
move
as
fast,
possibly
towards
getting
this
robust.
I
think
wonderfully
emerging
industry
on
the
books
and
moving.
B
G
We
also
do
provide
a
lot
of
guidance
and
a
lot
of
technical
assistance
to
folks,
and
you
know
we're
currently
doing
that.
We
have
monthly
workshops
for
folks
who
are
interested
in
in
creating
adus.
We
have
a
zoning
one-on-one
workshop
that
I
want
to
just
promote,
because
that
is
this
thursday.
Actually,
this
is
tomorrow
tomorrow
evening
zoning
one-on-one
workshop,
so
I
just
would
like
folks
to
tune
into
that,
and
there
are
more
things
coming:
we're
working
on
a
series
of
guides
to
help
folks
navigate
isd
and
and
be
successful.
G
That
will
also
be
in
multiple
languages
and
with
respect
to
residential
kitchens.
You
know
we're
fully
prepared
for
the
next
stage
of
when
we
get
past.
This
is
to
how
do
we
help
folks
to
take
advantage
of
this
to
be
successful
and
and
to
provide
them
with
the
assistance
that's
needed
in
partnership
with
our
office
of
economic
development
and
with
the
city
council.
C
Sure,
thank
you.
Thank
you
again
for
everything
and
everyone
who
participated
in
getting
us
this
far.
I
agree
with,
and
I'm
okay
with
the
recommendation
from
chris
english,
like
I
think
we
should
definitely
if
it's
we
want
to
be
explicit
about
adding
that
language
in
I'm.
Okay
with
it.
I
guess
the
question
that
I
have
it.
You
know
it
seems
like
it's
my
understanding
that
we
will
not
be
moving
to
past
this
tomorrow.
C
B
Sounds
over
here
because
there
you,
I
think,
you're
already
the
proposed
zoning
amendment
that
you
have
is
actually
going
to
deal
with
a
lot
of
the
things
and
possibly
make
some
of
these
this
language
obsolete,
and
what
what
we
would
like
to
pass
tomorrow.
It
makes
more
sense
to
just
to
hold
this
in
committee:
have
the
hearing
slash
working
session
on
on
the
workings
on
the
zoning
amendment
that
you
want
it's
stronger?
It
actually
makes
provides
more
protections
and
actually
makes
it
part
of
our
entire
zoning
conversation
permanently.
B
I'd
rather
go
with
for
the
big
gun,
which
is
what
you
filed
and
finished
that
with
with
that
versus
a
temporary
step,
and
then
turning
around
and
doing
a
zoning
amendment
based
off
of
that.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
we
want
to
pass
the
ultimate
finishing
version,
which
is
what
you
filed
on
monday,
but
I'm
happy
to
talk
with
you
more
online
offline
if
you'd
like
to
about
you
know
if
you
feel
a
sense
of
urgency
to
do
one
thing
and
then
and
then
enhance
it
later
on.