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Docket #0684 - Ordinance on surveillance oversight and information sharing
A
Everyone,
I
can't
see
anything
or
anybody.
This
is
lydia
love
to
get
started,
but
hey.
B
C
D
C
D
I
also
see
that
counselor
bach
and
council
brayden
are
in
the
waiting
room
if
anybody
can
get
to
them.
C
A
This
is
counselor
edwards,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
things
organized
but
I'll
be
on
shortly
and
we'll
get
started
as
soon
as
I
can
see
all
the
panelists
and
whatnot.
Thank
you.
Thank
everyone.
B
A
We
have
three
co-host
of
the
crete
three
co-sponsors:
counselor
flynn,
counselor,
braden
and
counselor
bach,
six
of
us
so
far.
Okay,.
A
H
J
J
A
Right
good
afternoon,
everyone,
I
am
city
councilor,
lydia,
edwards,
chair
of
the
committee
on
government
operations.
It
is
tuesday
november
10
2020..
We
are
here
today
for
a
virtual
hearing
on
docket
0684
ordinance
on
surveillance
oversight
and
information.
Sharing.
This
matter
was
sponsored
by
councillors,
ricardo
arroyo,
kim
janey
and
michelle
wu
and
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
may
6
2020.,
in
accordance
with
governor
baker's
march
12
executive
order,
we're
modifying
the
open
meeting
laws
to
allow
for
us
to
continue
our
business,
but
also
balance
the
needs
of
the
public.
A
A
A
The
ordinance
requires
submission
for
approval
by
the
city
council,
of
a
surveillance,
use
policy
for
each
department
that
possesses
or
uses
surveillance
technology,
submission
of
a
surveillance
technology
impact
report
and,
if
required,
a
technology-specific
surveillance
use
policy
prior
to
acquiring
or
using
any
new
surveillance
technology
or
surveillance,
data
and
submission
of
an
annual
surveillance
report
for
each
department
for
which
approval
of
surveillance,
technology
or
surveillance
data
has
been
obtained.
The
ordinance
would
also
create
a
system
limiting
information
sharing
between
bps
and
bpd.
A
I
will
now
turn
it
over
to
the
lead
sponsor.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
lead
sponsors
for
some
brief
opening
remarks.
I
will
introduce
the
my
colleagues
in
the
order
of
their
arrival
and
then
we'll
go
to
our
first
panelist.
A
Our
first
panel
excuse
me.
So
in
order
of
arrival,
we've
been
joined
by
our
the
lead
sponsors
council
arroyo,
councillor,
janie
and
counselor
wu.
Also
counselor
flynn,
counselor
braden
counselor
bach,
have
I
missed
any
city
counselors,
oh
counselor.
O'malley
has
also
joined
us
and.
C
Thank
you
so
much
madam
chair,
and
let
me
start
by
thanking
my
colleagues,
counselor
arroyo
and
counselor
wu
for
their
leadership
and
their
partnership
on
this
ordinance.
Regarding
surveillance,
oversight
and
information
sharing,
I
want
to
give
a
huge
shout
out
to
the
aclu
massachusetts
to
unafraid
educators,
the
student
immigrant
movement
and
so
many
others
for
their
work
that
they
have
been
doing
over
the
last
year
and
probably
longer,
but
certainly
the
last
year
with
my
office.
C
All
of
our
offices
have
been
working
together
for
quite
some
time
and
I'm
glad
that
this
is
finally
moving
forward.
This
particular
legislation,
I
think
of
it
as
a
companion,
piece
to
the
surveillance
oversight
and
information
sharing
legislation
that
the
council
passed
earlier
this
year.
The
facial
recognition
ban
that
we
passed
earlier
this
year.
It's
no
secret
that
those
technologies
facial
recognition,
software
that
they
have
a
lot
of
discrepancies.
A
lot
of
you
know
misidentifying
people
and
that
this
impacts
communities
of
color
disportion
disproportionately,
particularly
the
darker
you
are
the
darker.
C
Your
skin
tone
is,
and
so
I'm
really
pleased
that
we
passed
that
legislation.
C
Very
you
know
game
changing
very
important
that
we
we
passed,
that
it's
important,
that
we
take
the
next
step
to
go
the
extra
mile
and
make
sure
that
the
reporting
between
our
school
communities
and
our
public
safety
safety
agencies
are
not
overstepping,
particularly
when
we
see
how
black
and
brown
communities,
particularly
males,
have
been
targeted
and
criminalized
throughout
the
decades
in
our
city
for
centuries.
C
For
me,
this
is
part
of
how
we
dismantle
the
school-to-prison
pipeline.
It
is
how
we
make
sure
that
we
are
creating
and
reimagining
public
safety
in
our
in
our
city.
It's
how
we
ensure
that
our
schools
truly
are
safe
havens
for
our
young
people
as
a
long
time,
education,
activists
and
advocate.
C
You
know
it
really
bothers
me
and
disheartens
me
to
see
how
using
advancements
in
technology
that
should
help
us
as
a
society,
but
how
that
has
been
turned
against
our
young
people,
our
own
students
in
boston,
public
schools,
particularly
for
immigrant
children,
who
are
worried
about
you,
know
their
place
in
our
community
and
society
and
if
they're,
undocumented
immigrant
children,
the
fears
are
even
greater.
C
While
many
talk
about
that.
These
incidents
reports
are
minor
for,
for
our
young
people
in
our
schools.
They
end
up
having
life-changing
effects.
We
we
already
know
the
history.
I
won't
kind
of
go
into
what
has
already
happened
in
terms
of
reports
and
our
gang
database
and
the
brick
and
and
all
of
this,
but
all
the
more
reason
why
we've
got
to
take
the
extra
step
and
make
sure
that
we're
dealing
with
the
oversight
and
reporting
so
that
we
never
see
a
repeat
of
the
incident
that
we
saw
happen
in
east
boston.
C
So
I'm
going
to
keep
my
my
comments
brief
here.
I
will
add
that
I
am
very
disappointed
that
the
administration
isn't
here,
because
this
is
an
ordinance
and
at
this
point
we
really
need
to
understand
their
thoughts
on
this
ordinance.
We
want
to
pass
something
that
we
can
all
feel
good
about.
I
am
grateful
again
to
the
the
many
activists
and
advocates
who
have
been
in
this
space
doing
this
work,
and
I
am
grateful
for
those
who
are
with
us
today
on
the
panel
and
for
the
many
folks
who
are
signed
up
to
testify.
C
So
thank
you
again
to
my
colleagues.
Counselor
wu
councillor
royal
to
all
of
the
advocates
the
panel
and
to
you,
madam
chair,
for
for
having
this
important
discussion.
Thank
you.
A
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
thank
you
to
president
janie
and
councillor
wu
for
their
efforts
to
advance
protections
for
the
civil
rights
of
our
our
citizenry,
and
I'd
also
like
to
thank
the
aclu
unafraid
educators,
the
student
immigration
movement
for
their
work
in
moving
this
forward.
Just
to
summarize,
because
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
public
comment
just
to
summarize
what
this
ordinance
does.
It
requires
the
mayor
to
submit
to
the
boston
city
council
to
review
policy
for
each
department
that
uses
surveillance
technology
that
that
review.
D
That
report
or
review
would
tell
us
the
purpose
of
that
surveillance,
the
authorized
users
and
uses
and
who
can
access
that
data,
a
creation
of
an
annual
surveillance
report
by
the
mayor.
That
would
tell
us
how
the
tech
has
been
used.
Data
sharing,
amongst
other
things
and
would
report
to
the
city
council,
determine
uses
of
the
technology
and
it
details
the
information
that
school
district
officials
can
share
with
law
enforcement.
D
This
would
restrict
it
to
cases
of
serious
violence
and
credible
safety
threats.
It
prohibits,
sharing
of
immigration
status,
ethnicity,
neighborhoods
of
residents,
languages
spoken
and
any
suspected
or
alleged
affiliation.
That
would
be
in
student
reports,
in
formation
of
a
community
board
to
oversee
school
districts,
information
sharing
policy.
I
also
just
want
to
speak
to
the
elephant
in
the
room,
which
is
the
absence
of
the
administration.
D
For
this
conversation,
I've
spoken
to
both
parties-
I
spoke
to
bpd
about
this
hearing
and
it
was
my
understanding
that
they
could
not
appear
due
to
the
election
that
took
place
on
november
3rd
and
how
they
would
be
working
or
operating
around
that
and
so
they're.
Not
here
today
and
I
believe
bps.
D
I
received
a
call
this
month
actually
timely
and
on
subject
about
the
lawyers
committee
for
civil
rights
had
been
asking
for
information
regarding
direct
communications
with
ice
and
boston
school
police
in
that
report
did
not
that
that
information
that
had
been
disclosed
after
court
order
that
information
included
information.
D
I
understand
that
that
can
be
a
difficult
conversation,
but
not
being
present
for
difficult
conversations
does
not
mean
that
we
will
not
have
them
and
that
that's
all
I
have
for
now
I'd
like
to
get
to
the
panel
as
quickly
as
possible.
So
I
see
the
rest
of
whatever
time
I
have
here
for
opening
statement.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
thank
you
so
much
to
my
co-sponsors
on
this
for
all
of
their
incredible
work
and
in
partnership
with
a
coalition
of
amazing
advocates
and
leaders
and
and
for
their
very
eloquent
remarks
today.
That
already
summarized
most
of
all
of
the
details
that
needed
to
be
said.
I
will
just
add
this
is
part
of
the
this.
Is
the
companion
ordinance
to
the
piece
that
the
council
had
passed
earlier,
as
the
council
president
noted.
L
This
particular
piece,
though,
has
now
been
several
years
in
the
making
first
at
a
hearing
filed
in
early
2017,
at
which
we
had
finally
a
full
hearing
with
bpd
in
june
of
2018..
The
basic
premise
is
that
we
are
misusing
public
resources
and
exacerbating
distrust
when
the
community
has
to
mobilize
each
and
every
instance.
L
Some
issue
pops
up
related
to
over
surveillance,
related
to
information
sharing
that
should
that
harms
our
students
and
our
residents,
whether
it
was
the
case
of
drones
that
were
later
discovered
to
have
been
purchased
by
the
boston
police,
whether
it
was
our
case
of
the
east
boston,
high
school
student
facing
people
experiencing
deportation
because
of
information
sharing
by
boston
school
police,
whether
it
was
of
a
technology
contract
between
bpd
and
a
company
that
was
about
to
apply
a
patch
in
the
next
version
of
the
upgrade
that
would
include
face
surveillance
technology,
that
is
racist
and
a
violent.
L
A
threat
threat
to
civil
rights.
So,
rather
than
have
us,
continue
to
come
again
and
again
and
again,
especially
after
the
fact
when
so
much
harm
has
been
done
just
to
protect
anyone
else
who
might
fall
into
this
category.
It
is
time
that
we
put
down
the
actual
framework,
the
rules
and
a
set
of
guard
rails.
That
will
ensure
trust
in
the
only
way
possible
by
preventatively
putting
down
some
rules.
So
you
heard
everything
that
this
ordinance
does.
L
We
in
june
of
2018,
when
we
had
this
hearing
and
when
then
chief
of
police
gross
was
present.
He
did
say
then
that
he
supported
the
idea
that
the
administration
was
fully
on
board,
with
the
need
for
public
participation
and
for
public
feedback
and
that
he
looked
forward
to
ongoing
conversations
about
this
and
ongoing
progress
towards
putting
this
in
place,
and
so
I
just
want
to
echo
my
colleagues
frustrations
and
disappointment
that
the
administration
is
choosing
to
be
absent
today.
L
The
reason
given
to
me
directly
was
that
they
wanted
time
to
understand
more
of
what
the
language
was
just
to
listen,
that
they're
watching
the
live
stream
and
that
they
will
come
back.
You
know
into
the
process
later
on
when,
when
they
better
understand
what
is
being
proposed,
as
I
I
just
that's,
why
I
wanted
to
emphasize
this
is
now
multiple
years
in
the
making
we
had
a
hearing
in
june
2018,
where
there
was
a
commitment
to
get
this
done.
This
was
proposed
in
may
of
2020.
L
We
have
already
acted
on
the
first
half
of
it
with
the
face
surveillance
ban,
so
we
will
get
the
rest
of
it
done
regardless
and-
and
I
especially
want
to
thank
madam
chair-
who
I
believe
was
the
counselor
who
posed
the
question
at
that
hearing
several
years
ago-
just
to
understand
the
boston
police
department's
commitment
to
moving
forward.
So
thank
you
to
everyone.
It's
been
an
honor
to
be
part
of
this
process
of
drafting
and
moving
forward
on
this.
A
F
Thank
you,
council
edwards.
Thank
you
to
the
sponsors.
Thank
you
for
the
to
the
panelists
that
are
here
with
us
this
afternoon
and
looking
forward
to
learning
more
about
this
issue.
Thank
you,
council
edwards.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
also
to
the
makers
of
this
important
ordinance.
I
really
look
forward
to
hearing
what
the
panelists
have
to
say
and
to
learn
more
about
this
important
issue.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
M
Yeah,
I'm
here.
Oh
sorry,
I
was
muted.
You
would
think
after
a
year
of
this,
not
quite
home
yet.
But
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
makers
and
thank
you,
madam
chair.
This
is
a
really
important
hearing
and
I
think
just
such
an
important
issue.
M
It
is
as
counselor
we
said,
connected
in
fundamental
spirit
to
the
facial
surveillance
span
that
we
already
passed,
and
I
remain
particularly
committed
to
the
sort
of
demonstrable
that
we
should
be
making
intentional
decisions
about
how
we
use
surveillance
in
light
of
the
kind
of
democratic
community
that
we
live
in
together
and
should
not
allow
sort
of
the
evolution
of
new
technology
to
be
the
tale
that
wags,
the
dog,
where
we
sort
of
start
to
live
together
in
a
different
way
and
in
a
way
that's
more
invasive
of
people's
privacy
and
erodes
trust
just
because
we
can,
and
just
because
you
know,
technologies
are
suddenly
available
to
us,
and
so
we
start
using
them,
and
so
I
think
you
know.
M
Obviously
this
is
not
what's
being
proposed,
is
not
a
ban
on
surveillance
technology.
It
is
a
requirement,
dimensional
democratic,
look!
Every
time
we
take
a
step
in
that
direction
and
I
think
that's
an
appropriate
thing
for
the
council
to
do,
and
so
I'm
excited
about
this
conversation
and
grateful
to
the
aclu
and
all
the
advocates
for
being
part
of
bringing
it
forward.
So
thank
you
so
much.
Madam
chair.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
council,
o'malley.
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Obviously
I
too
want
to
add
my
voice
to
the
chorus
thanking
the
makers
for
their
important
work
on
this
very
important
issue.
Looking
forward
to
hearing
from
so
many
stakeholders
advocates
and,
most
importantly,
bps
youth
bps
students,
rather
to
figure
how
we
can
be
supportive
going
forward.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
savvy
george
might
still
be
unable
to
speak
right
now,
so
I'm
just
putting
it
out
that
she
is
here,
but
she
texts
me
that
she
might
not
be
able
to
respond
right
directly.
Then
we'll
go
to
counselor
campbell.
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
sponsors
of
the
ordinance.
Of
course,
thank
you
to
the
advocates
and
those
in
the
community
who
have
been
pressing
us
to
to
move
on
this
for
some
time
appreciate
your
continued
advocacy
as
well
and
I'll
just
say
for
the
record.
You
know
I've
been
supportive
of
this,
since
I
co-sponsored
the
initial
conversation
on
this
issue
with
councillor
wu
and
council
mccarthy,
and
it
is
frustrating
that
it's
taken
this
long
to
to
sort
of
move
the
issue
forward.
O
Obviously
we
have
a
new
council,
which
is
a
good
thing
which
makes
it
easier,
but
it's
also
a
little
bit
disappointing
that
not
a
little
bit.
It's
disappointing
that
the
administration
isn't
here
to
weigh
in
and
to
offer
some
feedback
or
constructive
feedback
as
to
what
changes
they'd
like
to
see
or
what
their
position
is
with
respect
to
the
ordinance
so
looking
forward
to
the
conversations
from
the
advocates
in
some
kind
of
commitment
or
response
from
the
administration.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
your
leadership
and
welcome
back.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
mejia.
P
Yes,
counselor
cheerwoman
head
towards
it's
so
good
to
be
back
in
your
presence,
so
glad
that
you
are
here,
facilitating
and
assuming
your
rightful
place
all
over
again.
So
thank
you
to
the
makers.
I'm
really
excited
to
to
be
here.
I
hear
the
frustration
I
feel
like
we
keep
having
the
same
conversation
year
after
year,
but
this
is
the
year
to
be
a
freshman
counselor
and
seeing
all
of
this
traction
when
all
things
that
deal
with
equity
and
issues
that
have
been
impacting
our
people
for
far
too
long.
P
You
know
the
first
hearing
that
our
office
filed
was
on
safe
sanctuary
spaces,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
information
sharing
between
bps
and
brick.
I'm
thrilled
to
see
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
action
taken
on
this
issue
and
look
forward
to
working
through
the
ordinance
with
the
sponsors
and
the
advocates.
P
This
issue,
for
me,
is
personal
and
and
professional
too
many
students
in
our
schools
are
at
risk
of
losing
their
rights
because
of
improper
information
sharing
and
surveillance,
and
one
of
the
questions
that
I
always
ask
you
know
with
all
of
the
surveillance
you
know
we
we
can't
even
solve
you
know
we're
still
having
a
hard
time
solving
homicides
right.
So
we
have
all
these
surveillance
toys,
but
it
seems
like
when
it's
time
to
utilize
them
in
ways
that
are
going
to
help.
P
I
don't
I
don't
see
that
same
sense
of
urgency
and
I
think
that
information
sharing,
if
we're
not
sharing
information,
that's
going
to
keep
our
people
alive,
then
we
need
to
dive
deep
and
figure
out
whether
or
not
we're
utilizing
our
tax
dollars
in
ways
that
are
appropriate,
so
happy
to
be
here
and
always
here
for
all
of
it.
For
those
who
know
we're,
gonna
come
and
we're
gonna
dismantle
systems
of
oppression,
and
it
begins
with
this
conversation.
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
counselors
before
I
speak
very
briefly,
I'm
very
excited
about
this
conversation.
It's
true.
It's
been
one
in
the
making
for
some
time.
I
will
say
this.
A
I
think
it
is
incumbent
upon
government
if
it
is
going
to
watch
people
that
it
report
on
what
it's
seen
and
how
it
watched
and
why
it
watched
those
individuals,
that's
how
democracy
works
and
it
lives
in
the
light,
and
so,
as
a
result,
we
need
to
know
how
we
are
being
seen
as
citizen
citizens
of
boston
and
we
need
to
know
why
our
tax
dollars
are
need
to
needed
to
survey
each
other.
A
One
of
the
questions
I
had
is
was
about
the
constitutional
rights,
the
access
to
counsel
and
the
ability
to
defend
oneself
when
they're
asked
by
a
person
or
who
happens
to
be
a
police
officer,
but
also
in
the
school.
Where
did
you
go?
What
did
you
do?
Can
I
see
your
backpack,
all
of
which,
if
they
were
an
adult
on
the
street,
could
result
in
different
constitutional
protections
and
telling
the
person?
No,
you
can't
see
it,
you
don't
have
a
warrant.
A
I
don't
expect
children
to
do
this,
but
I
expect
us
as
a
government
to
be
held
accountable
to
to
how
we
treat
our
children,
how
we
watch
them
for
their
own
safety.
That
is
what
this
hearing
is
about
to
me
is
balancing
those
interests.
You
cannot
say
we
need
police
there
and
then
also
say
we
don't
need
accountability
and
transparency
about
what
the
police
are
doing.
A
We
need
to
pick
a
side
as
a
city,
so
I'm
I'm
excited
about
this
conversation.
I
think
it's
long
overdue
and
I
think
it's
a
balancing
of
true
interests
of
safety
of
privacy
and
democracy
and
that's
how
we
need
to
see
this.
It's
very
serious
that
we
understand
how
we
are
watching
each
other
and
any
government
or
enforcement
agency
or
police
agency
that
doesn't
want
to
rise
to
the
sunlight
and
demonstrate
that
is
an
entity
that
people
are
less
likely
to
trust
and
work
with.
A
A
That
being
said,
I
am
going
to
list
some
of
the
panelists
who
will
go
ahead
and
do
their
comment,
and
then
we
can
ask
questions
as
excuse
me
as
counselors.
I'm
sorry.
I
have
something
in
my
throat
as
as
counselors
to
the
panelists,
and
what
I
would
really
appreciate
also
is
for
those
who
are
testifying
and
for
those
who
are
gonna
have
comments.
A
If
there's
specific
language
concerns
as
well
or
thoughts
or
anything
that
you
would
like
to
really
kind
of
hone
in
on
that's
very
helpful
for
our
conversation
as
well,
so
we
have
and
again
I
apologize
in
advance
if
I
mispronounce
anyone's
name
feel
free
to
hold
your
finger
up
I'll
stop,
and
you
can
correct
me
with
no
problem
no
ego
in
this.
But
let
me
let
me
try.
First,
we
have
emiliano
falcon
morano
from
the
aclu
of
massachusetts,
nora,
paul
schultz,
unafraid,
educators,
valerio
dovali
student,
immigrant
movement,
kimani
james,
remember
the
boston
student
advisory
council.
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
good
afternoon,
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today
and
thank
you
to
the
sponsor
sponsors,
counselors,
janie,
wu
and
arroyo
for
pushing
this
important
ordinance
forward
on
behalf
of
the
aclu
and
our
more
than
10
000
members
and
supporters
in
the
city
of
boston.
I
am
submitting
today
this
testimony
and
these
comments
in
strong
support
of
the
ordinance
on
surveillance,
oversight
and
information
sharing.
E
Today,
I
will
speak
about
two
issues.
First,
the
reasons
why
the
city
of
boston
needs
to
give
the
city
council
council
the
power
to
approve
and
regulate
surveillance.
Second,
I
will
provide
some
comments
about
the
general
structure
of
the
ordinance
before
this
committee.
As
to
the
first
issue,
instituting
a
local
law
that
provides
for
surveillance,
accountability
and
limits,
information
sharing
in
boston
public
schools
is
now
more
important
than
ever.
A
fundamental
characteristic
of
a
free,
open
and
democratic
society
is
an
appropriate
balance
of
power
between
the
people
and
the
government
in
free
societies.
E
People
should
know
almost
everything
about
what
their
government
is
doing.
In
contrast,
the
government
should
only
collect
and
share
sensitive
information
about
people
when
absolutely
necessary,
but
what
was
once
a
relatively
straightforward,
balanced
relationship
has
become
complex
and
asymmetrical.
E
The
city
of
boston
must
institutionalize
a
public
process
to
approve
govern
surveillance
and
to
ensure
a
free
future
for
all
the
decision
about
whether
the
boston
police
department
or
any
other
local
agency
should
use
surveillance
technologies
and,
if
so,
how
and
under
what
circumstances
should
not
be
made
in
secret
without
any
public
deliberation
or
debate.
These
decisions
must
be
hashed
out
in
public
and
driven
by
elected
officials
by
you
by
the
city
council,
informed
by
their
constituents
and
expert
testimony.
By
so
doing,
we
will
avoid
situations.
E
We
will
avoid
situations
like
the
one
we
encountered
in
2017
when
the
boston
police
department
bought
three
drones
and
tested
them
in
a
blank
in
a
black
neighborhood,
but
didn't
tell
anyone
a
few
years
ago
earlier,
in
2015,
a
local
reporter
exposed
that
the
bpd
planned
to
buy
a
1.4
million
social
media
surveillance
system.
That
was
news
to
the
people
of
boston
and
to
the
city
council.
Back
then,
after
the
plans
were
exposed
and
the
people
on
the
council
voiced
their
concerns,
the
bpd
backed
off
the
plan.
E
Likewise,
in
2018,
the
aclu
revealed
that
the
boston
police
department
has
been
using
property.
Social
media
surveillance
technology
for
years
in
secret
agents,
used
the
technology
to
monitor
people
posting
about
muslim,
religious
practices
and
participating
in
black
lives,
matters,
discourse
and
protests.
E
In
all
these
cases,
the
city,
council
and
the
public
were
not
consulted
about
any
of
these
programs
leading
to
mismanagement,
waste
and
civil
rights
harms
in
a
similar
vein,
as
the
other
members
of
the
panel
will
explain
today,
the
city
needs
to
protect
our
students
from
surveillance
and
data,
sharing
that
imperils
their
personal
safety
and
their
educations.
Even
recent
debates
pertaining
to
the
role
of
police
in
schools
with
the
sections
of
this
ordinance
that
deal
with
information
sharing
in
boston,
public
schools
should
be
improved.
E
To
that
end,
we
are
attaching
as
an
exhibit
a
new
version
as
an
exhibit
to
our
written
testimony,
a
new
version
of
the
ordinance
and
a
summary
of
the
changes
we
would
like
to
see.
So.
The
second
issue
I
will
speak
today
is
about
the
ordinance
and
the
general
structure
of
the
ordinance.
This
ordinance
has
six
six
chapters
and
nine
sections.
E
The
first
chapter
lays
out
the
purpose
of
the
ordinance,
which
is
to
provide
accountability,
transparency
and
oversight
regarding
the
acquisition
and
use
of
surveillance,
technology
and
surveillance
data
by
the
city
of
boston
and
its
agencies
and
officers.
The
second
chapter
provides
general
considerations
of
the
ordinance
section.
2
provides
for
definitions
of
important
terms
that
are
used
throughout
the
ordinances.
E
The
third
chapter
provides
for
the
main
provisions
of
community
of
the
community
control
over
surveillance.
Section
3,
creates
the
surveillance
youth
policy
and
describes
its
required
elements.
Section
4
creates
the
surveillance,
technology,
impact
reports
and
technology,
specific
surveillance,
use
policies
and
describes
their
main
characteristics.
E
All
these
documents
must
be
filed
by
the
city
before
deciding
to
use
new
surveillance
technologies
and
then
be
approved
by
the
city
council.
After
hearing
where
the
community
can
provide
its
input.
The
fourth
chapter
deals
with
student
information
sharing
policies,
section
5,
lays
out
specific
rules
pertaining
to
boston,
public
schools
and
boston,
police
department,
information
sharing
policies
and
practices.
This
will
be
further
explained
by
the
other
panelists.
E
The
fifth
chapter
and
section
five
of
the
ordinance
creates
the
annual
surveillance
report
to
be
presented
by
the
mayor
to
the
council
every
year
and
establishes
its
main
elements.
The
last
chapter
provides
for
miscellaneous
provisions.
Section
7
provides
for
enforcement
mechanisms
of
the
ordinance.
These
mechanisms
include
the
exclusionary
rule
and
a
private
right
of
action.
E
E
Basically,
what
we
are
saying
today
is
that
sunlight
is
the
best
disinfectant.
The
city
of
boston
took
a
very
important
step
towards
reigning
in
an
accountable
government
spying
when
it
banned
face
surveillance
earlier
this
year.
Now
the
city
should
continue
on
that
road
and
join
other
cities
in
massachusetts
like
somerville
and
cambridge,
and
pass
this
surveillance
oversight
ordinance
every
generation
must
fight
for
their
freedoms.
This
ordinance
creates
opportunities
for
future
generations
to
continue
the
fight
for
racial
justice,
privacy
and
freedom
of
speech
in
the
digital
egg.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
think
it
was
nora
next.
Q
Yes,
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
noor
paul
schultz,
I'm
a
physics
teacher
at
the
o'brien
school,
a
leader
of
unafraid
educators,
the
boston
teacher
unions,
immigrant
rights,
organizing
committee
and
a
resident
of
jamaica,
plain
unafraid.
Educators
has
at
its
mission
to
build
sanctuary
schools
from
the
ground
up
in
the
wake
of
the
2016
election,
many
cities
and
school
districts
began
proclaiming
themselves
to
be
sanctuary,
cities
and
sanctuary
districts.
Q
Then
councilor
tito
jackson,
spearheaded
the
work
to
pass
a
resolution
to
proclaim
boston,
public
schools,
a
sanctuary
district.
I
attended
the
hearing
and
watched
as
fellow
unafraid
educators
testified
in
support
of
this
resolution,
but
calling
ourselves
a
sanctuary
district
does
not
mean
anything
without
action.
As
a
group,
we
and
unafraid
educators
realized
that
we
needed
to
continue
to
push
the
district
in
our
schools
to
truly
live
up
to
the
it's
this
name.
Q
After
all,
can
we
really
call
ourselves
a
sanctuary
district
when
incident
reports
written
by
district
employees
end
up
in
the
hands
of
ice
and
result
in
the
deportation
of
us
of
students
in
our
care?
The
ordinance
before
you
is
a
step
towards
living
out
the
promise
we
all
made
through
the
2016
resolution.
Q
Let
us
be
clear
when
the
resolution
was
written,
the
way
that
that
the
interactions
between
ice
and
schools
was
imagined
was
of
ice
agents
coming
into
schools
and
detaining
a
student.
This
is
a
terrifying
image
and
one
that
has
not
luckily,
as
far
as
I
know,
come
to
fruition
in
boston.
What
we
have
seen
in
boston
is
something
not
as
obvious
but
equally
sinister
in
boston.
There
is
what
we
know:
here's
what
we
know
happens.
Information
about
students
is
obtained
by
boston,
school
police
officers
and
passed
through
the
boston
police
department.
Q
Q
In
2018,
which
told
the
devastating
story
of
a
young
man,
a
bps
student
being
deport
deported
using
information
from
our
schools,
but
we
knew
from
the
beginning
that
this
was
not
a
one-time
tragedy.
Tragedy.
Immigration
lawyers,
some
of
whom
you
will
hear
here
today,
told
a
larger
story
later
that
same
year,
a
lawsuit
revealed
that
over
100
later
a
lawsuit
filed
that
same
year
has
revealed
that
over
100
reports
were
passed
from
bps
to
brick
between
2014
and
2017,
allowing
ice
to
have
access
to
them.
Q
This
was
this
was
a
staggering
number,
but
still
still
not
the
full
picture.
We
recently
heard
from
the
lawyers
who
were
part
of
the
2018
suit
that
incident
reports
were
passed
to
brick
as
late
as
during
the
2019-2020
school
year,
and
the
issue
is
much
broader.
We
know
that
the
the
passing
of
information
is
not
limited
to
sending
in
from
incident
reports.
We
know
that
there
is
unofficial
communications,
including
seemingly
casual
emails,
that
can
and
do
incriminate
students.
Q
In
a
recent
records
request,
we
learned
of
a
brick
list
that
school
police
officers
are
on
which
suggests
a
standard
network
of
communication
between
the
brick
and
school
in
the
school
police.
The
communication
at
times
is
very
specific.
We
have
seen
examples
of
school
police
officers
sending
emails
to
people
at
the
brick,
identifying
students
in
photos
and
sending
their
information
along.
We
also
need
to
be
clear
that
this
does
not
just
affect
our
undocumented
students.
The
brick
communicates
with
other
law
enforcement
agencies,
including
the
fbi,
which
is
known
to
surveil
muslims.
Q
The
bric
also
houses
the
gang
database,
which
includes,
includes
unsubstantiated
and
criminalizing
information
about
our
city's
residents.
It
bears
repeating
that
over
90
percent
of
the
people
in
the
gang
database
are
black
and
latinx.
Over
60
percent
are
black
men
as
a
teacher.
This
communication
is
frankly
terrifying
as
it
endangers
our
students.
Additionally,
it
makes
it
harder
for
for
me
to
do
my
job
in
supporting
and
educating
my
students.
Q
How
can
I
expect
an
undocumented
student
or
citizen
student
with
undocumented
family
members
to
open
up
to
me
and
ask
for
support
if
their
family
member
is
detained?
How
can
I
expect
an
undocumented
student
or
student
with
irregular
status
to
ask
me
for
help
in
navigating
the
complicated
college
process?
Why
would
any
student
share
this
sensitive
information
with
anyone
at
a
school
if
they
have
good
reason
to
fear
that
information
from
schools
is
being
passed
to
the
bpd
and
on
to
federal
law
enforcement
agencies?
Q
Of
course,
the
stakes
are
high
for
undocumented
students
and
their
families,
but
they
are
high
for
citizen
families
as
well
as
citizen
students
can
also
be
inserted
into
the
gang
database
and
funneled
into
the
criminal
justice
center
system.
If
there
is
a
fight
in
my
classroom,
for
example,
I
need
support.
Well,
I
teach
the
other
students
in
my
class.
I
need
someone
to
talk
to
the
students
in
question
and
allow
me
them
to
cool
down
and
then
have
conversations
to
restore
their
relationship.
Q
Q
Through
our
advocacy,
we
have
called
this
language
the
learn
without
fear
policy,
because,
ultimately,
we
want
to
create
schools
where
students
can
learn
without
fear
of
being
criminalized.
The
policy
creates
guidelines
for
when
a
report
can
be
should
be
shared
should
be
written
that
can
be
shared
with
bpd.
The
incidents
must
be
severe
bodily
harm,
a
true
incredible
threat
amounting
to
criminal,
predicate
possession
of
a
firearm
or
possession
of
drugs
such
that
are
not
marijuana,
nicotine
or
alcohol.
This
is
not
to
say
that,
and
any
incident
less
severe
should
not
have
consequences.
Q
Q
Q
And
perhaps
the
most
horrifying
aspect
is
that
only
reports
that
the
only
reports
that
school
police
officers
are
allowed
to
write
are
bpd
1.1
reports
which
go
directly
to
bpd
and
feed
directly
into
the
brick.
They
are
able
to
write
these
reports
with
no
oversight,
no
one
checking
if
the
incident
is
worthy
of
a
bpd
report
or
if
the
information
shared
should
have
been.
Q
This
policy
also
puts
limits
on
what
information
can
be,
can
go
into
reports
going
to
bps
and
bpd,
so
that
bps
employees
cannot
share
sensitive
information
like
immigration
status
or
religion,
or
even
information
that
can
be
proxy
for
those
things
like
nationality,
first,
language
or
participation
in
clubs.
It
is
important
that
this
information
is
naturally
freely
shared
between
the
district
and
the
police
department.
Q
This
section,
in
of
the
ordinance,
also
provides
an
oversight
for
when
reports
are
passed
to
bpd.
This
requires
a
school
leader
to
use
their
educational
lens
to
deem.
If
a
report
should
be
submitted
to
the
bpd,
it
would
also
require
the
superintendent
and
their
counsel
to
ensure
that
the
report
meets
the
requirements
of
the
ordinance.
It
also
requires
a
meeting
with
a
student
in
their
family
prior
to
the
sending
of
the
report.
Q
Schools
would
also
have
to
provide
an
interpreter,
if
necessary,
in
a
list
of
legal
services.
It
also
requires
a
community
oversight
board
to
restore
the
trust
in
the
community
and
monitor
the
racial
gender
school
and
other
breakdowns
of
the
reports
that
were
sent
to
bpd.
I
mean
attaching
to
this
testimony
some
suggested
amendments
that
all
the
members
of
this
pet
panel
are
proposing
that
will
allow
for
exigence
circumstances
and
prevent
school
leaders
from
sharing
this
information
as
well.
Q
I
dream
of
teaching
in
a
school
where
students
can
learn
from
their
mistakes
without
worrying
that
they
will
be
used
against
them
and
lead
to
their
criminalization
or
deportation.
I
know
that
this
ordinance
is
an
important
stead
step
in
making
that
happen.
So
I
thank
all
of
you
for
taking
this
issue
so
seriously.
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
when
it
comes
to
that.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
and
then
I
think
we
had
valeria.
B
R
Hi,
thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
very
happy
to
be
here
today.
I
share
a
lot
of
the
sentiments
that
you
all
share.
That's
finally
happening
so
I'm
here
before
you
as
a
daca
recipient,
a
boston,
public
schools,
graduate
a
family
member
of
a
bps
student
and
also
a
civilian
who
has
been
in
contact
with
the
police
enough
times
to
know
when
they
are
helping
and
protecting
me
and
my
family
and
others
around
me
and
when
they
are
abusing
their
power
and
instilling
fear
and
harm.
R
So
today
you
will
hear
from
our
members
from
the
student
immigrant
movement
as
well,
and
so
I
want
to
let
you
know
a
little
bit
about
us.
The
student
immigrant
movement
was
founded
in
2005
by
young
people
here
in
massachusetts,
particularly
boston,
high
school
students
at
the
time
fighting
for
their
lives
and
their
families
lives
as
undocumented
and
immigrant
people
for
15
years.
R
Sim
has
done
groundbreaking
work
for
not
only
the
immigrant
community
but
the
community
at
large,
because
we
know
that
when
you
help
the
most
vulnerable
of
people,
you
are
helping
everyone
else
from
stopping
deportations,
to
doing
popular
education,
around
civil
rights,
college
access
and
everything
in
between.
R
We
have
served
as
a
political
home
and
an
organizing
home
for
young
people
13
to
29
to
develop
themselves
and
learn
about
their
community
and
how
they
can
inspire
change
and
create
change.
R
So
sim
has
always
been
concerned
with
the
disparities
that
our
members
have
shared
and
experienced
over
the
years,
in
particular
within
the
boston
public
school
system,
and
in
fact
this
is
what
led
to
the
founding
of
unafraid
educators
was
that
when
we
as
students
and
as
sim
members,
had
discovered
that
the
administrators
knew
of
the
issues
we
were
facing
but
refused
to
take
action,
we
decided
that
it
was
appropriate
to
organize
with
the
willing
and
concerned
teachers
that
wanted
to
also
see
their
students
be
successful
and
took
it
upon
themselves
to
fill
those
disparities
when
the
administration
did
not.
R
So
I'm
very
happy
that
we
have
unafraid
educators
with
us
here
as
well.
Finding
this
good
fight
as
well
as
the
aclu,
as
I
mentioned,
we've
been
particularly
concerned
with
boston,
in
particular,
east
boston,
high
school
as
well,
and
but
we
worked
with
thousands
of
schools
throughout
the
state
and
throughout
boston
public
schools,
including
binka,
the
boston,
international
newcomers
academy
that
go
above
and
beyond,
to
educate
and
protect
their
marginalized
students,
but
even
they
have
been
found
in
the
reports
obtained
through
lawsuits
against
bps.
R
I
I
mentioned
these
folks
not
to
put
them
on
the
spot
but
to
to
focus
that
it's
not
just
an
east
boston
high
school
problem,
but
the
reason
why
we
focus
so
much
on
east
boston,
high
school
is
that
it
has
been
one
of
the
longest
battles
that
sim
in
particular
has
faced
as
well
as
other
immigrant
lawyers
and
advocates
who
have
continuously
tried
to
be
part
of
the
community
there
and
help
the
immigrant
population
there
and
have
been
systematically
shut
down.
R
We
are
banned
from
actually
even
talking
to
the
students
trying
to
help
them.
So
we
know
this
is
true
about
other
administrations
in
bps
as
well.
R
We
know
that
that's
not
the
only
school,
and
so
what
we
recognize
is
that
this
is
a
a
ratio,
this
racial
inequity,
this
racial
and
class
inequity
is,
in
truth,
a
systematic
issue,
and
so
that's
why
we
actually
approached
tommy
chang
back
in
2016
to
discuss
potential,
trainings
and
ways
to
go
about
bridging
these
gaps
with
the
administrators,
the
police
officers,
principals
and
so
on,
and
at
the
time
tommy.
R
Chang
assured
us
over
and
over
again
that
our
concerns
were
regarding
one-time
incidents
that
we
shouldn't
worry
and
that
it
was
all
under
control
and
for
a
while.
We
truly
believed
that
was
true.
That
bps
was
simply
a
victim
or
happened
to
have
a
mishap
because
of
bpd's
per
se
pervasive
and
tactics
and
strategies.
R
Then,
as
you
heard
from
from
my
colleagues
earlier
in
2018
and
2017
and
and
even
beyond,
and
even
later,
unfortunately,
we
learned
that
that
wasn't
true,
these
weren't
one-time
incidents,
kids
weren't,
ending
up
and
getting
databases
for
posting
pictures
with
their
friends
wearing
their
favorite
sports
gear
by
accident,
they
weren't
being
stopped
questioned
over
time
by
accident.
R
They,
there
weren't
multiple
reports
being
captured
on
a
regular
daily
basis
of
these
youth
activities
and
the
use
of
these
reports
instigating
suspicion
where
suspicion
wasn't
existent.
This
wasn't
an
accident
and
the
neglect
to
inform
to
include
families.
The
due
process
of
young
people
and
their
families
was
not
an
accident.
This
was
on
purpose.
R
This
was
a
choice
by
the
parties
involved
to
do
these
things,
and
so
we
approached
doctor
basilius,
the
new
superintendent
of
boston,
public
schools,
hoping
that
this
time
with
a
new
admin,
a
new
head
of
the
administration,
the
issue
would
be
resolved.
R
And
this
time
we
came
with
more
evidence
and
more
research
that
appalled
us
policies
that
were
out
of
date,
policies
that
were
non-existent
and
we
took
it
upon
ourselves
to
make
the
work
easier
for
them
by
drafting
to
learn
without
fear
policy,
with
the
hope
that
not
only
were
we
going
to
be
able
to
have
these
very
frank
conversations
about
the
real
issues
that
were
happening
bps,
but
that
they
would
also
take
our
policy
seriously
and
over
time
as
we
met,
we
met
very
frequently
almost
one
time
per
month
from
2019
to
now
for
a
very
long
period
of
time.
R
We
would
meet
over
and
over
again,
and
we
wouldn't
hear
that
our
policy
was
being
taken
seriously
and
so
that
prompted
us
to
then
go
public
and
be
more
outspoken.
Because
we
had
tried
to
compromise.
We
had
tried
to
take
matters.
R
R
They
were
putting
in
place
to
showcase
or
attempt
to
show
that
they
were
trying
to
resolve
the
issue
when
in
reality
they
were
not
and
they
knew
all
along
that
they
were
not,
and
so
that
led
to
us
passing
a
version
of
the
learn
without
fear
policy
that
I'm
actually
embarrassed
to
claim
as
a
version
of
the
learn
without
fear
policy.
R
That
almost
did
nothing
to
the
extent
that
we
wished
it
would,
and
so,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
I
understand
is
that
bps
is
willingly
doing
this
willingly
working
with
bpd
and
in
fact,
once
the
working
group
ended
and
the
policy
was
passed,
we
were
promised
that
we
would
be
called
on
to
reconvene
to
continue
this
conversation,
because
it
was
a
long
conversation
and
that
we
could
not
simply
fix
everything
through
one
policy.
R
Now
we
agreed
full-heartedly
with
that,
which
is
why
we
had
hoped
that
the
policy
would
set
the
stage
to
actually
set
the
structure
for
what
these
conversations
would
be
like
and
over
again,
they
dismissed
their
concerns,
claiming
that
this
was
a
training
issue.
However,
we
also
know
that,
in
fact,
training
has
not
taken
place
on
a
regular
basis
and
we
cannot
depend
solely
on
training
to
happen,
because
we
need
some
form
of
legal
process
that
will
hold
anything
that
falls
through
the
crack
accountable,
and
currently
we
don't
have
that
in
place.
R
I
am
deeply
concerned
by
the
new
evidence
that
we've
obtained
that
shows
that
the
emails
and
ongoing
conversations
have
happened
even
after
we
were
in
this
working
group
three
four
months
ago.
Being
assured
that
this
was
no
longer
happening.
Clearly,
I
don't
want
to
sugarcoat
it.
R
We
were
lied
to
blatantly
lied
to
I'm
concerned
as
as
a
former
student
as
a
family
member
and
as
someone
who
who
presents
who
who
is
responsible
or
feels
responsible
for
our
members
who
are
boston,
public
schools,
and
so
today,
you'll
hear
from
our
members,
and
they
will
talk.
You
know
a
lot
about
why
they
support
the
policy.
R
What
you
will
not
see
is
the
countless
calls
that
they
made
to
recruit
people
who
potentially
could
share
their
experiences,
and
this
is
all
because
of
fear,
because
they
fear
that
by
being
too
specific,
by
giving
too
many
details
by
saying
the
wrong
thing-
that
there
will
be
repercussions,
this
is
not
a
way
that
a
democracy
should
function.
R
This
is
this
is
a
way
that
our
voices
are
systematically
being
shut
down,
and
I
also
want
to
say
it
is
not
surprising
to
me
that
the
administrations
were
not
present,
they
do
know
full-heartedly
and
what
we
have
been
saying
we
have
been
asking
for,
and
they
have
refused
to
come
to
the
table
with
us
unless
we
force
them
into
as
well
as
I
want
to
mention
that
you
know
I
hear
over
and
over
comments
by
the
boston
police
department,
as
well
as
commissioner
gross,
that
these
technologies
are
helping
sexual
assault
victims,
that
they
are
helping
solve
murders
that
they
are
helping
the
families,
and
I
want
to
tell
you
as
a
survivor
of
sexual
assault
as
a
survivor
of
robberies
and
break-ins
in
my
home,
like
I
said
before,
I
understand
when
the
police
are
being
helpful
and
I
also
have
experienced
instances
where
they
were
not
where
they
made
me
feel
fear
whether
it
made
me
feel
that
I
wasn't
in
the
right
place
where
they
asked
me,
questions
that
I
knew
they
didn't
need
to
know.
R
These
are
questions
that
other
people
get
and
even
worse,
things
happen
to
them
when
they
are
stopped
and
frisked
or
even
detained
and
even
deported,
and
so
I
want
to
highlight
that
these
issues
do
not
just
happen
to
immigrants,
but
the
whole
entire
community
of
marginalized
people
out
there,
and
I
want
to
really
make
sure
that
you
all
focus
in
on
this
larger
picture
as
well.
In
addition
to
the
specific
details
of
the
language
of
the
policy,
thank
you.
S
At
elucidating
the
specifics
of
the
present
proposal,
I
like
to
reframe
this
issue
in
the
context
of
what
I
see
as
a
larger
issue
in
our
present
political
culture,
and
to
that
end
would
like
to
offer
these
remarks.
Instead,
I
worked
on
the
student
privacy
policy,
the
district
passed
in
september
for
pretty
much
my
entire
summer
and
at
my
first
school
committee
meeting,
I
strongly
expressed
my
disagreement
with
the
policy
as
it
was
written
at
the
time
for
reasons
outlined
in
a
letter
which
many
of
us
working
group
members
signed
on
to.
S
I
was
then
told
that
I
shouldn't
quote
remind
folks
what
was
wrong
with
or
missing
from
the
policy
since
it
was
apparently
common
knowledge.
The
policy
the
district
passed
was
woefully
inadequate.
It
institutionalized
the
use
of
bpd
one
one
reports
for
too
many
offenses
and
misdemeanors
diminishing
protections
amongst
our
most
vulnerable
students.
S
As
it
stands
now,
sim
and
under
freight
educators
have
put
in
more
work
than
anyone
else
to
create
an
anti-racist
just
policy
that
would
protect
our
students
is
learning
and
safety.
So
since
it's
clear
why
we
should
pass
this
policy
common
sense
and
basic
human
decency
tell
us
as
much.
Let
us
address
the
elephant
in
the
room
politics.
S
It's
no
surprise
that
boston
has
a
long
history
of
practicing
politics
in
a
distinctly
covert
way,
one
in
which
elected
officials
and
others
exercising
political
power.
All
too
frequently
attempt
to
usurp
power
from
those
community,
organizers
and
activists
who
are
actively
on
the
ground.
Doing
the
work
necessary
work
to
improve
the
lives
of
everyday
bostonians,
this
power
struggle
has
created
a
political
climate
which
tolerates
and
contributes
to
community
neglect,
and
I
and
many
other
students
are
tired
of
it.
It's
too
bold.
They
say
these
groups
of
people
wouldn't
be
for
it.
S
They
say
well
that
group
of
people
have
been
benefiting
from
the
system
for
quite
some
time,
the
system
they
created.
What
about
the
minorities
who've
been
ignored,
whose
children
and
loved
ones
have
been
actively
repressed
and
disenfranchised
by
this
system.
We
knew
for
years
what
really
needed
to
be
done
around
this
issue
and
it's
november
of
2020.
S
It
is
november
of
2020..
Some
may
say:
change
takes
a
long
time.
Yes,
I
agree,
but
I
wonder
how
much
influence
this
ineffective
political
system
has
had
on
that
timeline
and
what
could
get
done
sooner
if
people
started
opening
their
ears
and
truly
listening
to
our
community
members,
specifically
the
most
disadvantaged
by
this
system,
politics
was
not
meant
to
function.
S
This
way,
the
secrecy,
observation,
lack
of
transparency
and
absence
of
political
will
haven't
done
anything
for
us,
except
make
community
members
more
frustrated
and
disappointed
with
their
elected
officials,
and
it's
time
that
we
start
thinking
and
taking
this
time
we
start
taking
our
leaders
to
task
for
their
failures.
It's
time
to
demand
more
from
our
elected
officials,
it's
time
to
demand
accountability,
city
councillors,
you
have
before
you
an
opportunity
to
end
the
ambiguity
surrounding
the
use
of
surveillance
technologies
and
to
build
a
more
transparent,
accountable
and
courageous
political
climate.
S
It
is
for
these
reasons
that
I
implore
you
to
pass
this
ordinance
by
establishing
community
oversight
of
surveillance
technologies.
It
will
protect
the
privacy
of
our
students
is
data
and
information,
and
in
crafting
clear
language
about
information
sharing.
It
will
limit
the
extent
to
which
police
and
schools
can
collaborate
with
ice
and
other
federal
law
enforcement
agencies
which
jeopardize
our
students's
safety.
S
Students
should
not
have
to
walk
around
their
schools,
afraid
worried
about
both
a
calculus
test
in
their
next
period
class
and
whether
or
not
the
school
police
officer
standing
in
the
corner
is
spying
on
them.
Recording
the
details
of
their
interactions
to
later
send
to
other
government
agencies.
This
is
outrageous.
S
Passing
this
ordinance
is
the
next
essential
step
towards
creating
a
more
equitable,
safe
environment,
one
in
which
school
police
officers
don't
act
as
accessories
to
federal
immigration
authorities.
Surveillance
technologies
are
not
used
with
oversight.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
don't
act
as
accessories
to
federal
immigration
authorities.
Surveillance
technologies
are
not
used
without
oversight
and
students
are
given
every
opportunity
to
learn
without
fear.
S
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
gonna
go
now
through
a
line
of
questions
from
the
counselors
questions
and
comments,
and
then
we
will
go
to
public
testimony
so
again,
starting
with
the
lead
sponsors
we
wanted.
I
think
we
started
with
counselor
janie,
then
a
royal
and
then
woo.
A
C
Hear
me:
okay.
Yes,
I
want
to
just
take
a
moment
to
thank
this
amazing
panel
each
and
every
one
of
you
have
kind
of
laid
it
out,
and
so
just
thank
you
for
your
ongoing
work.
Your
ongoing
advocacy,
mr
james,
you
just
kind
of
I
think,
summed
it
up
nicely
about
the
urgency
for
this
matter,
and
certainly
the
co-sponsors-
and
I
would
argue
many
of
my
colleagues
are
very
supportive
of
this
and
that's
why
we've
introduced
it
and
we
want
to
pass
it.
You
know,
madam
chair.
C
Most
of
my
questions
were
very
much
directed
toward
the
administration
and,
first
and
foremost,
I
think
it's
really
important
to
understand
where
they
are.
I
share
again.
I
said
in
my
opening
how
disappointed
I
am
that
they're,
not
here,
I'm
disappointed
that
we're
talking
about.
They
can't
be
here
because
of
the
election
that
was
a
week
ago
and
is
already
called
so
I'm
not
sure
what
the
issue
is
that
the
ordinance
itself
is
very
dense,
but
it's
been
filed
months
ago
and
as
councilor
wu
has
pointed
out,
this
is
not
a
new
conversation.
C
This
is
an
ongoing
conversation,
one
in
which
we
hope
to
push
forward
through
the
council
and
get
signed
by
the
mayor,
this
ordinance,
this
legislative
cycle.
So
again,
it's
disappointing
not
to
be
able
to
have
a
clear
understanding
of
where
the
administration
is
from
what
I
can
gather
the
panel
that
is
before
us
and
many
of
the
advocates,
and
I'm
sure
we'll
hear
testimony
from
the
public
very
supportive
of
this,
and
without
really
understanding
what
issues
are
issues
of
concern.
What
issues
might
rub
against?
C
You
know
our
legal
department,
what
issues
they
really
like,
it's
really
hard
to
move
forward,
and
so
I'm
I'm
disappointed.
Let
me
just
kind
of
look
through
some
of
the
questions
I
think
for
the
the
panelists
here
to
see.
If
there's
someone
here,
I
we
also
need
to
figure.
I
just
saw
your
text,
madam
chair,
so
you
know,
most
of
my
questions
were
to
the
administration
really
wanting
to
understand
here's
language.
C
This
is
legislation
and
we're
really
at
the
end
of
our
legislative
cycle
in
terms
of
our
you
know,
ability
to
get
it
through
and
so
not
having
them
here
to
say:
here's
what
we
like
here's,
what
we
have
questions
about,
here's
what
we're
concerned
about
is,
I
don't
know
what
to
do
with
that
other
than
I
would
hope
that
we
could
schedule
a
working
session
soon
immediately
to
get
to
have
that
conversation,
and
because
this
is
a
conversation
where
we
are
seeking
accountability,
we
are
sinking
transparency.
C
I
really
want
to
do
that
in
a
public
space.
I
am
not
interested
in
having
private
conversations
with
the
mayor
and
going
back
and
forth
with
different,
I
mean
I
I
will
do
that.
I
will
say
I'm
not
interested
in
talking
with
the
mayor.
Clearly
I
am,
but
I
really
feel
like
we
as
a
city
we,
as
particularly
advocates,
who
have
spent
so
much
time
and
effort
putting
in
work
here.
C
We
just
as
a
city
deserve
a
public
debate
about
this,
and
so
I
hope,
madam
chair,
that
we
can
get
a
working
session
scheduled
immediately.
My
hope
is
that
that
we'll
have
a
date
that
works.
I
mean,
I
think
it's
very
telling
that
we
didn't
have
bpd
or
the
school
department
here.
So
I'm
not
sure
I
know
the
schools
were
closed
on
election
day.
I'm
not
sure
why
we
don't
have
someone
from
our
schools
here
to
talk
about
this,
but
clearly
for
all
of
the
reasons
that
have
been
outlined
by
our
amazing
panel.
C
I
mean
the
data
points
we
don't
have
to
report.
We
already
know
that
there
is
too
too
much
reporting
already
happening
between
all
of
these
different
public
agencies
and
that
all
of
this
reporting
and
and
surveillance
is
is
being
done
in
the
name
of
safety.
But
let
me
pose
this
again:
people
in
my
community
to
people.
I
remember
we
don't
feel
any
safer,
so
I
you
know
I
and
I
don't
see
how
we're
solving
how
the
murder
our
solve
rate
on
murders
are
going
down.
C
So
it
just
begs
the
question:
what
are
we
doing
and
in
my
mind
I
think
we
can
do
something
where
we
are
building
more
trust,
where
we
are
not
funneling
our
students,
our
young
people,
through
the
the
school-to-prison
pipeline
and
criminalizing
our
students.
I
I
obviously
there's
room
for
improvement
here,
but
without
the
administration
to
say
what
they
like,
what
they
don't
like.
C
I
don't
know
where
to
go
from
here,
I'm
going
to
stop
talking,
because
I
know
we've
got
other
my
colleagues,
my
co-sponsors
might
want
to
ask
other
colleagues
might
want
to
ask
questions,
and
certainly
I
do
want
to
hear
from
the
public-
and
I
know
we're
running
short
on
time,
and
so,
if
I
have
other
questions
that
are
actual
questions
to
this
panel,
I
mean
this
panel
has
been
amazing.
C
C
You
know
that
this
body
would
be
interested
in
passing
something,
but
I
I'm
interested
in
passing
legislation
that
we
can
all
feel
good
about,
and-
and
I
want
to
at
least
do
that
with
understanding
what
if
there
are
concerns,
what
they
are,
so
that
we
can
try
to
address
them
if
we
think
that
they
make
sense
and
if
not,
you
can
go
from
there.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you.
Counselor
rojo,.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Most
of
my
questions
were
for
the
administration,
but
I
I
guess
in
in
lacking
their
presence.
I
do
know
that
one
of
the
reasons
offered
in
a
letter
to
us
today
by
the
office
of
intergovernmental
relations
is
that
it
conflicts
with
that.
D
There's
the
idea
that
this
changes
policies
that
were
recently
adopted,
in
other
words
the
I
believe,
mr
james,
did
a
great
job
outlining
what
came
out
of
the
boston
school
committee
in
those
discussions,
and
so
my
one
question
here,
because
I
believe
everybody
on
this
panel
has
actually
read
or
took
part
in
the
process
for
that
proposal.
That
came
out
of
the
boston
school
committee.
Is
that
accurate
all
right?
D
I'm
all
all
head
knots,
okay,
in
what
ways,
because
I
think
fundamentally,
what
this
comes
down
to
for
me
is
what
protects
our
children
the
most,
what
protects
our
residents
the
most
and
for
me,
that's
why?
I
I'm
the
lead
sponsor
on
this,
because
I
believe
this
actually
tightens
up
that
legislation
in
a
way
that
actually
protects
them,
along
with
you
all
and
with
president
janey
and
and
counselor
wu.
But
if
you
can
speak
to
anybody,
any
of
you
can
take
this
question.
D
F
Q
I
can
start,
and
then
valeria
and
kamani
were
also
on
the
panel-
is
that
okay,
we're
also
on
the
on
the
working
group
that
helped
write
the
policy,
and
I
know
emiliano,
has
also
read
it
and
given
feedback
and
there's
other
people
who
will
testify
today
who
are
also
on
it.
I
think
that
there
were
some
real
sticking
points
in
the
working
group
of
places
where,
as
a
group,
we
just
could
not.
Q
There
was
a
number
of
us
who
just
could
not
agree
with
the
district
in
terms
of
where
what
types
of
incidents
should
require
a
a
report
and
then
what
kind
of
those
reports
they
are,
and
so
in
a
new
policy,
it
requires
that
a
bpd
1.1,
which
is
a
bpd
report
that
goes
into
the
bpd
system
and
the
school
department
loses
access
to
it.
Q
1.1
are
too
it's
too
easy
to
write
one,
and
so
there's
things
like
assault
and
battery
or
a
seldom
battery
with
a
deadly
weapon,
well,
which,
while
are
sound
like
extreme
and
can
be
extreme
and
hurtful
actions
can
also
be
written
up
for
more
minor
offenses
like
a
shoving
match,
or
we
heard
a
story
of
someone
kicking
a
flip-flop
at
someone
else,
was
written
up
as
assault
and
battery
with
a
deadly
weapon,
because
the
flip-flop
was
considered
a
deadly
weapon
and
I'm
not
a
lawyer.
Q
This
is
just
what
I've
learned
from
lawyers
but
learning
hearing
from
lawyers
who
were
on
the
committee
with
us
liz,
mcguire
and
elizabeth
badger
who
will
testify
during
public
comment.
They
both
talked
about
these
stories
of
their
clients,
having
reports
written
for
that
liz
mcguire
also
talked
about
an
autistic
kid
who
got
obsessed
with
someone
getting
written
up
for
a
stalking
charge
and
that's
something
else
that
can
still
require
1.1
or
sexual
harassment,
which
all
these
things
are
really
bad
and
can
be
really
bad.
Q
But
some
of
them
require
something:
that's
not
a
vpd
report,
or
maybe
all
many
of
them
do,
and
so
one
of
our
big
concerns
was
this
glaring
line
of
like
what
requires
a
report,
and
why
is
that
a
report
that
no
one
has
to
okay
gets
written
right
into
the
bpd
system
and
is
basically
lost
to
the
school
district?
And
so
there's
no
oversight
from
a
head
of
school
to
be
like
hey?
I
don't
think
that
this
incident
actually
warrants
this
information.
Q
Q
Non-Reports,
except
for
through
the
chief
and
the
deputy
chief,
but
all
of
our
list
of
of
items
that
can't
be
included
in
a
report.
They
can
include
all
those
except
for,
except
for
immigration
status
if
they
see
it
to
be
a
a
a
health
and
safety
emergency
or
if
just
they
pick
up
the
phone
or
send
an
email
to
someone
there's
other
things
like
it
does
not
account
for
our
confirmed
gang
stats
and
we've
seen
in
emails
that
they'll
say.
Oh,
the
kids
said
that
they
were
a
gang
member.
Q
Therefore
they
are,
but
that
is
those
are
just
some
of
the
main
ones,
along
with
the
parent
meetings
happening
before
the
the
incident
is
shared
with
the
bpd
and
valeria
and
kamani.
Q
Let
me
know
if
I'm
me
missing
anything
and
I
can
send
you,
and
I
think
we
did
send
you
a
list
that
we
sent
to
school
committee
with
these
concerns
that
were
signed
by
many
members
of
the
working
group.
R
There's
no,
like
you
know,
let's
call
an
interpreter,
let's
get
a
lawyer
here
to
actually
explain
to
the
family.
The
consequences
of
you
know
writing
up
this
thing,
and
you
know
I
think
it
is
important
to
note
that
there
are.
There
is
a
full
out
process
right
that
was
decided
through
the
super
supreme
court
around
suspension
and
what
we're
seeing
here.
These
things
are,
do
not
merit
suspension,
and
so
why
are
they
meriting
such
harsher
consequences
than
an
actual
suspension?
R
Where
the
you
know,
children,
kids,
are
ending
up
either
deported
or
in
prison
or
in
king
databases
that
are
gonna.
You
know,
unfortunately,
harm
them,
their
entire
lives
when
they're
just
starting
their
lives
now,
and
so
I
think
that's
that's
one
other
thing
that
we
that
we
really
tried
to
do,
and
it
was
really
difficult
and
bps,
was
really
adamant
and
pushed
back
a
lot
on
creating
this
type
of
process.
R
That
really
just
contains
the
incidents
to
the
school
level,
and
the
other
thing
I
would
say
is
that
there
there's
a
lot
of
lack
of
transparency.
So
what
would
happen
is
we
would
we
wrote
the
policy
we
would
come
to
the
meeting,
and
then
we
would
get
contradicting
information.
So
eventually
it
got
to
the
point
where
we
would
be
in
a
meeting
and
be
like
wait.
You
just
said
that
they
don't
have
access
to
this
now
they
do
have
access
to
it
and
it
would.
R
It
would
be
this
thing
of
like
we
wouldn't
get
any
work
done
or
anywhere
or
progress,
because
I
think
right
now,
there's
not
even
a
concrete
list
of
the
types
of
incident
reports
that
exist,
what
they
are
for
the
definitions
they
attempted
to
provide
one
to
us,
but
we
knew
that
it
was
lacking
as
well
on.
R
You
know,
credibility
and
also
transparency
that
they
just
were
choosing
to
not
share
certain
things
as
well
as
choosing
not
to
share
the
extent
of
their
connection
to
bpd,
where
bpd
also
gave,
and
they
would
give
bps
would
also
give
this
reasoning,
which
is
oh,
it's
just
part
of
the
300a
rule
and
so
upon,
investigating
what
is
the
300a
rule?
All
of
a
sudden,
we
couldn't
find
this
rule.
R
We
didn't
know
if
it
was
out
of
date,
like
the
memorandum
of
understanding
is
because
it's
from
1996
right
as
well
as
how
it's
out
of
date
with
the
criminal
justice
reform
act.
So
it's
300a
out
of
out
of
compliance
as
well.
We
don't
know
because
they
wouldn't
provide
it
to
us.
They
wouldn't
tell
us
details
about
it,
and
so
we
would
get
all
these
responses
of
well.
R
R
Ultimately,
we
ended
up
asking
the
question:
like
is
boston,
public
schools,
role,
the
role
of
the
police
or
the
role
of
educators
right
to
teach
our
young
people.
You
know
how
to
be
in
society,
how
to
create
change
and
educate
them.
So
I
I
would
just
say
that
was
some
of
the
difficult
portions
but
yeah.
S
I
oh
go
ahead.
I
just
pardon.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
completely
agree
with
nora
and
valeria.
I
think
they
summed
it
up
beautifully.
I
you
know
I
just
want
to
highlight
everything
that
they
said,
and
I
would.
I
would
just
add
that
you
know.
S
While
most
of
the
time
it
was
reasonings
like
valeria,
said
that
were
just
you
know,
bpd
we,
you
know,
we
can't
do
that.
Bpd
wouldn't
essentially
wouldn't
like
that,
and
it
was
very
frustrating
to
to
work
through
negotiations
where
we
weren't
being
provided
an
actual
legitimate
legal
reason
as
to
why
certain
language
couldn't
be
put
into
a
policy.
That's
supposed
to
be
protecting
our
students,
and
you
know
that
this
is
the
whole
point
of
the
testimony
that
that
I
made
earlier
to
you
all
today.
S
This
is
about
our
students.
You
know
every
single
meeting
in
the
summertime
I
had
to
remind.
I
had
to
remind
the
district
leaders
about
that.
This
is
about
our
students.
I
think
once
we
begin
to
weigh
political
factors
and
what
certain
law
enforcement
agencies
will
and
will
not
like
when
really
they're
the
issue
and
they're
the
ones
that
are
making
our
students
feel
unsafe.
We
begin
to
lose
focus
of
why
we're
doing
the
work
in
the
first
place.
This
is
for
our
students,
no
one.
This
is
for
our
students
to
feel
safe.
S
S
This
is
a
policy
that
is
going
to
transform
the
way
the
way
schools
are
the
environment
in
which
we're
putting
our
students
and
children
in,
and
it's
going
to
be
the
first
step
to
asking
the
larger
question
of
why
police
officers
are
in
school
in
the
first
place,
and
my
main
issue
with
the
policy
is
the
fact
that
a
lot
of
you
know
the
district
leaders
during
the
working
group.
A
lot
of
it
was
oh
we'll
leave
it
up
to
training.
S
Well,
how?
How
can
we
leave
it
up
to
training
when
we
don't
have
specific
language
included
in
the
policy
that
would
give
that
would
give
that
would
shed
light
essentially
and
give
more
direction
to
where
that
training
should
go
and
how
that
training
should
be
executed
effectively.
So
every
aspect
of
the
policy
isn't
just
being
followed,
but
also
being
applied
fairly
and
justly
in
a
case-by-case
scenario.
D
Thank
you
all,
and
I
just
want
to
confirm.
I
was
a
public
defender.
I
did
do
many
cases,
the
assault
and
battery
with
a
ding
or
dangerous
or
deadly
weapon.
The
worst
one
I
ever
got
was
a
paper
plate
that
was
a
to
whip
paper
plate,
so
it's
possible
that
they
they
do
write
them
for
different
things.
That's
what
I
confirm
as
a
criminal
defense
attorney
that
that
has
happened.
It
does
happen.
Thank
you.
A
L
No,
I'm
sorry
I'll
be
quick.
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
so
so
much
to
this
panel
again,
I
know
how
much
you
put
into
it
and
it
was
just
incredibly
inspiring
to
hear
all
of
you,
especially
mr
james,
thank
you
so
much
for
really
localizing
it
and
just
emphasizing
the
urgency
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
I
wonder
if
you
all
could
just
comment
a
little
bit
also
just
kind
of
zooming
out.
You
know.
L
E
I
can
talk
about
that
for
the
experience
of
the
surveillance
oversight
so
far,
there
are
two
communities
in
massachusetts
that
have
passed
similar
ordinances,
which
are
lawrence
somerville
and
cambridge,
and
the
process
is
going.
It's
going
well
we're
working
a
lot
with
summerville
and
cambridge,
because
the
effective
date
of
the
ordinances
usually
is
from
six
months
to
nine
months.
After
it's
passed,
we
are
working
with
them
to
create
a
good
surveillance
use
policy
to
analyze
the
surveillance
technology
impact
reports.
E
We,
which
we
think
are
super
important,
because
that's
where
the
technology
is
explained
we're
also
working
with
the
police
departments
there,
so
that
they
provide
all
the
details
about
how
the
surveillance
technology
works,
how
what
civil
rights
and
civil
liberties
are
affected,
where
they
are
deployed.
E
So
so
I
can
speak
to
that,
and
I
can
see
that
I
can
say
that,
while
at
the
beginning,
it's
a
little
bit
hard
for
cities
to
get
used
to
it,
I
think
I
think
we
they
will
eventually
and
and-
and
we
we
of
course
can
work
with
the
city
of
boston
to
to
help
them
and
to
provide
our
resources
for
for
anything.
The
city
needs
if
this
ordinance
passes.
T
A
Thank
you,
counselor
counselor.
I
think
it's
counselor
bach.
M
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair,
and
I
just
want
to
echo
thanks
to
the
panel
and
also
frustration
about
the
fact
that
we
don't
don't
have
the
administration
here
today,
because
I
think
that
it
is,
you
know
it's
an
ordinance
in
which
we
should
be
getting
into
the
weeds,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
people
here.
M
Lots
of
counselors
here
who
care
about
getting
into
the
weeds
legislation
and
a
lot
of
folks
here,
including
the
folks
from
sim
and
unafraid
educators.
Who've
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
the
weeds
of
this
legislation
already
and
you've
brought
your
expertise
to
this,
and
it
would
be
good
if
we
were
having
a
detailed
conversation
about
the
language
before
us
with
the
administration,
as
so
many
of
you
have
voiced.
M
So
I
just
want
to
echo
that
in
my
perspective
and
say
that,
similarly
to
my
colleagues,
a
lot
of
my
questions
were
and
will
be
for
the
administration,
and
I
hope
we'll
have
that
working
session
shortly.
I
guess
one
question
I
would
ask,
is
just
it.
It
does
seem
like
we've
got
sort
of
two
aspects
of
the
ordinance
here.
M
Fundamentally,
one
is
about
you
know
the
us
sort
of
progression
and
surveillance
technology
and
us
making
that
intentional
democratic
decision
about
what
we're
going
to
use
together
and
then
there's
the
piece.
That's
specifically
about
schools
and
how,
as
kamani
says,
you
know,
we
really
treat
our
students
as
students
as
children
and
with
with
rights
and
also
people
to
whom
we
have
a
heightened
duty
of
care,
which
I
think
involves
really
avoiding
situations
in
which
they're
going
to
be
criminalized.
M
And
so
I
just
wonder
if,
if
somebody
from
the
aclu
or
anybody
on
the
panel
could
speak
a
little
bit
to
putting
those
two
things
together
in
the
ordinance,
because,
obviously
we
separated
out
the
facial
surveillance
ban,
and
I
could
imagine
a
world
in
which
we
were
talking
about
two
ordinances
here.
So
just
would
love
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
about
that
thought
of
having
them
all
together.
E
I
can
speak
to
that
also,
if
balance
one,
so
we
think
that
surveillance
is
an
overall
concern
right.
The
reason
why
the
face
surveillance
ban
it
wasn't
through
a
separate
ordinance
was
because,
in
that
case,
a
whole
technology
was
being
banned
right
as
contrary.
In
these
cases,
this
surveillance
technology
should
be
approved
by
the
city
council.
E
That's
why
we
are.
We
are
creating
the
surveillance,
ordinance,
surveillance
oversight,
ordinance
and
the
reason
why
we
put
the
public
schools
section
is
because
surveillance
in
public
schools
is
is
a
big
issue
in
surveillance
in
the
city
of
boston,
and
we
think
that
the
information
sharing
part
of
the
ordinance
that
pertains
to
the
boston
public
schools
is
essential
for
regulating
surveillance
in
the
city
of
boston.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
the
whole
surveillance
has
information
sharing
permissions.
M
M
A
Let
people
know
before
before
we
go,
we
have
about
a
half
hour
before
we're
probably,
and
we
still
have
public
testimony
as
well.
So
while
I
appreciate
the
back
and
forth
and
each
panelist
having
a
lot
to
add
to
I
do,
I
do
want
to
prioritize
other
other
counselors,
who
haven't
asked
a
question
at
all
and
also
get
to
public
testimony.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
campbell.
O
Thank
you,
council
edwards,
but
thank
you
to
the
panelists
who
I
you
know
have
been
engaging
with
with
respect
to
other
public
safety
conversations,
including
the
gang
database.
Brick,
the
lack
of
transparency
and
accountability
so
appreciate
your
leadership.
Your
advocacy
also
share
your
frustration.
You
know,
I
think
there
is
the.
O
You
know
an
unwillingness,
I'll
be
very
frank,
an
unwillingness
by
the
departments
to
sort
of
own
when
we
make
a
mistake
and
to
admit
to
the
harm
we
cause
and
then,
of
course,
to
change
our
policies
and
practices
that
should
then
do
better
and
if
we're
unwilling,
if
we
continue
to
take
this
defensive
posture
right,
we'll
continue
to
be
here
day
after
day
after
day.
So
I
think
it's
not
just.
O
Let's
get
the
ordinance
passed,
we
have
to
sort
of
shift
that
culture
within
departments,
including
the
policing
department,
including
some
parts
of
from
bpd.
You
know,
I
remember
just
handling
school
discipline,
special
needs
cases
as
an
education
attorney
and
it
was
always
combative
with
well
for
the
most
part,
with
the
boston
public
schools.
With
respect
to
anytime,
we
got
information
that
we
knew
was
inaccurate
misinformation
and
trying
to
sort
of
save
save
one
of
our
students.
So
I
appreciate
your
your
leadership.
O
I'm
curious-
and
this
is
just
one
question
for
the
municipalities
that
have
passed
this
legislation.
What
has
come
out
of
it
right?
What
are
advocates
saying
is
working
what
maybe
had
to
be
tweaked.
What
are
the,
what
was
the
sentiment
of
their
police
departments
right
of
their
school
departments?
When
passing
this
legislation,
I
imagine
there
was
a
process
of
back
and
forth.
O
Maybe
there
was
some
compromise,
I
don't
know,
but
I'm
curious
what
the
hiccups
were
for
some
and
how
those
departments
got
past
that
and
then
what
has
been
the
the
end
result
of
the
outcome
and,
if
any
shifts
in
culture
and
some
of
these
departments
and
other
municipalities
have
taken
place
because
of
this
legislation,.
E
I
can
answer
to
that.
Thank
you
for
the
question
counselor
campbell
as
to
the
surveillance
ordinance,
the
surveillance
part
that
that's
the
one
who
passed
in
in
cambridge
and
somerville,
so
the
actual
implementation
of
the
ordinance
once
this
ordinance
is
passed,
is
composed
mainly
of
two
parts
actually
like
one
part
and
then
the
the
the
ordinance
actually
working
so
between
the
ordinance
is
passed
and
the
ordinance
takes
effect.
E
That's
the
the
the
part
where
the
the
cities
and
towns
have
to
work
harder
because
that's
where
they
have
to
draft
the
surveillance
policy,
they
have
to
draft
all
the
surveillance
technology
impact
reports,
prepare
the
format
and
the
template
for
for
all
the
policies
and
all
the
reports
that
that
are
created
by
the
ordinance.
So
that's
where
we
are
now
in
cambridge
and
somerville.
We
are
in
that
part
and
so
far
it's
working.
E
There
is
some
back
and
forth,
of
course,
of
course,
with
the
police
departments
about
the
amount
of
work
about
the
things
that
should
be
included
in
the
surveillance
surveillance
use
policy,
how
detect
how
detailed
they
should
be,
but
but
this
is
not
something
that's
impossible
to
be
done.
It
can
be
done.
It
just
requires
a
little
bit
of
more
administrative
work
during
the
first
part
of
the
implementation,
but
once
that
is
done,
then
it's
pretty
automatic.
E
O
My
other
questions
are
for
the
administration.
I
can
save
them
for
the
working
session
and
again,
thank
you
to
the
advocates,
mr
james,
of
course,
as
well,
for
all
of
your
your
your
work.
Thank
you.
Stay
safe
and
healthy.
P
Yes,
I'm
gonna
join
the
chorus
of
how
disappointed
I
am
that
the
administration
is
not
here
to
participate
and
be
present.
I
think
that
it's
such
a
missed
opportunity,
I
feel
like
I'm
speaking
to
folks
who
I've
known
forever
right
and
having
the
same
conversation
with
folks
already
on
the
same
accord
with
me,
so
it's
just
a
little
bit
frustrating
that
this
is
what
the
case
is,
but
I
think
a
few
things
that
I
just
want
to
uplift
here
is
that
in
many
ways
this
feels
like
the
plantation
mentality
right.
P
It
feels
as
though
we're
always
being
watched
always
being
surveilled,
and
I
think
that
this
whole
mentality
of
keeping
people
in
check
does
really
weigh
on
you
emotionally
and
I'm
just
curious
in
terms
of
the
social
emotional
trauma
that
our
students
are
facing
as
a
result
of
always
feeling
like
they're
being
watched,
I'm
just
curious
if
there's
any
data
or
any
information
around
the
social,
emotional
and
traumatic
impact
that
being
overly
surveilled.
I
guess,
if
that's
a
word
passed
on
you,
I
know
for
me.
P
Whenever
I
go
to
a
store,
I
already
know
I'm
being
watched.
I
can
feel
those
eyes
on
me
and
I
swear
to
god.
The
heat
is
so
close
on.
My
back
that
I
just
want
to
leave,
and
the
fact
that
I
walk
into
spaces
and
already
feel
like
all
eyes
are
on
me,
makes
me
feel
a
certain
kind
of
way
and
I'm
an
adult.
P
S
It
exists
well
counselor
mejia,
while
I
can't
prove
well.
I
don't
have
quantitative
data
to
provide
to
you
at
the
moment.
I'm
pretty
sure
some
one
of
my
fellow
panelists
do.
I
can
speak
to
experiences
that
I
personally
learned
of
in
during
the
working
group
sessions
over
the
summer,
and
you
know
some
of
the
experiences
I've
actually
been
told
very
personally
throughout
my
work
on
the
boston
school
committee.
You
know-
and
I
addressed
this
in
my
testimony
earlier
when
you
have
a
student,
you
know
you
you
wake
up
in
the
morning.
S
It's
already
early,
so
you're
feeling
groggy.
You
know
you
have
two
probably
three
tests
that
school
day
you
go
into
school.
You
know
you
probably
have
your
headphones
in
your
ears
and
you
know
you're
thinking
about
the
test.
The
test,
the
test,
that
the
test-
plural,
that
you
have
coming
up
that
day
are
stressing
you
out.
You
may
have
some
issues
going
on
at
home.
S
You
may
have
responsibilities
later
in
the
day
or
later
in
the
week
that
you're
dreading
and
then
on
top
of
all
of
that,
on
top
of
the
res
the
responsibilities
of
a
student,
the
societal
pressures
of
a
teenager,
you
have
to
also
consider
the
fact
that
there
is
a
police
officer
in
your
school,
watching
the
students
walking
in
the
hallways
most
likely
taking
notes
on
what
they're
wearing
and
that's
another
thing
you
wake
up
in
the
morning.
Should
I
wear
red
or
is
red
going
to
come
off
as
associating
with
a
certain
gang?
S
You
have
you
have
school
police
you?
You
know
you
have
students,
fearing
school
police
officers,
taking
notes
of
what
they're
wearing
taking
notes
of
who
they're
talking
to
oh
this
person.
Does
I've
heard
this
person
does
x,
y
and
z?
Maybe
it's
not
such
a
good
call
for
me
to
be
talking
to
this
person
in
front
of
the
school
police
officer.
S
I
don't
want
to
say
trouble,
but
get
you
into
a
situation
that
is
just
built
off
of
baseless
conclusions,
and
I
think
you
know
it
sounds
really
crazy.
It
sounds
really
crazy.
I
you
know
I
can't
find
another
adjective
to
describe
what
I
just
outlined,
because
I
think
that's
really.
The
only
adjective
there
is
this
is
crazy.
We're
talking
about
our
children,
we're
talking
about
students.
This
is
basic
human
decency
and
the
the
amount
of
pressure
that
students
are
already
under.
S
I
mean
me,
I'm
the
student
representative,
I'm
you
know,
I'm
the
student
representative
on
the
boston
advisory
council
and
on
the
boston
school
committee.
I
take
four
aps
plus
a
college
preparatory
class
and
I'm
spread
thin
in
many
different
directions
because
I
love
the
work
that
I
do
and
I
want
to.
You
know,
be
everywhere
at
once
and
talk
to
everyone
and
solve
so
many
different
issues.
Now.
S
Imagine
if
I
was
in
school-
and
I
had
to
wake
up
in
the
morning
and
not
just
think
about
think
twice-
maybe
three
times
about
what
I
have
to
wear
but
then
go
into
the
school
building
and
fear
that
the
school
police
officer
is
just
you
know
due
to
the
day
in
time,
and
maybe
the
school
police
officer
woke
up
in
a
bad
mood.
I
am
subject
to
subjects
of
a
law
enforcement
officer
that
in
itself
is
not
only
scary
and
frustrating,
but
it's
crazy.
A
If
you
have
some
cognitive
or
if
you
have
some,
I
don't
know
studies.
That
would
be
very
helpful.
I
I
I
don't
want
to
that.
You
don't
speak,
but
I
I
just
we
have
about
15ish
minutes,
I'm
trying
to
find
a
colleague
who
might
be
able
to
continue
on
so.
R
R
I
mean
I
do
have.
I
could
send
it
later,
it's
available
online
easily
as
well,
but
I
can't
tell
you
the
name
right
now,
because
there's
a
few,
but
in
terms
of
immigrant
youth
in
particular,
there's
it's
there's
little
research.
R
First
of
all,
and
most
of
it
is
qualitative,
it's
ethnographic
based
and
it
focuses
mostly
on
health
impacts
and
it
does
explore
mental
health
impacts
on
a
population
who
is
constantly
under
fear
of
deportation,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
see
a
lot
is
first
of
all,
people
will
over
time
not
speak
to
their
teachers
when
they
need
to,
and
so
it
creates
a
mistrust
that,
if
I
share
any
type
of
information
at
all,
if
I
share
that
because
I'm
facing
issues
or
problems
both
grade
wise
school,
wise,
but
also
personal
because
of
my
documentation
status
because
of
the
lack
of
information,
my
family
has
the
idea
that
the
the
students
get
then
is.
R
Oh,
someone
is
going
to
share
that
information
and
I'm
going
to
lead
to
my
family
being
deported.
So
I
could
definitely
share
that
research
later
on.
But
if
there's
little
research-
but
we
see
amongst
our
members
and
amongst
the
immigrant
population
that
we
have
surveyed
and
have
talked
to
that,
there's
immense
consequences
of
how
they
translate
their
experience
in
school
and
outside
of
school.
E
I
can
speak
to
some
actual
research
that
exists.
For
example,
there
is
a
research
in
england
in
england
a
couple
of
years
ago
about
cctv
that
actually
shows
how
people
anxiety
levels
go
up
when
they're,
constantly
being
surveilled
and
contrary
to
this,
there
is
no
evidence
that
cctv
cameras
make
communities
safer,
so
there
is
actually
evidence
against
cct
cameras.
Also,
there
are
plenty
of
research
that
shows
that
constant
mass
surveillance
increases
stress
have
effects
on
relationships,
create
conformity
among
people
because
they
are
they.
E
They
are
more
prone
to
accept
anything
that
happens
because
they
are
being
surveilled,
and
on
top
of
this,
there
is
decreased
trust
in
government.
For
example,
one
study
found
that
when
people
are
identified
with
a
leader,
their
trust
in
that
leader
actually
decrease
when
they
found
out
that
they
were
being
watched.
E
So
so
constant
mass
surveillance
has
deep
effects
and
there
is
plenty
of
research
I
can
follow
up
and
and
send
you
send
you
a
couple
of
links
about
this
but
effectively
as
as,
as
the
counselor
said,
mass
surveillance
and
and
having
the
constant
feeling
of
having
someone
surveilling,
you
has
has
a
lot
of
effects
in
adults
right.
Imagine
how
how
the
effect
they
have
on
students
that
go
to
schools.
Schools
should
be
a
safe
place
for
people
to
learn
not
to
be
surveilled.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
up.
Next
is
council
of
clarity
and
council.
Clarity,
then,
will
continue
with
vice
chair
of
the
government
operations
committee.
A
He
will
continue
on
the
the
hearing
in
public
testimony
and
again
navigating
questions
concerns
amongst
everyone
and
what
I
do
commit
to
is
pushing
this
and
getting
it
as
far
as
I
can
from
this
year
working
session,
looking
directly
at
the
language
and
suggestions,
as
I
believe,
the
aclu
has
a
marked
up
version
of
this
and
then
committed
to
hearing
what
the
folk
and
public
testimony
have
concerns
about,
or
questions
about,
and
then
the
working
session.
A
We
could
really
again
give
the
administration
the
opportunity
to
fill
in
any
gaps
or
express
any
concerns.
As
I
echo
my
client
or
my
my
colleagues
comments,
the
goal
is
to
get
there
together.
So
now
I'm
going
to
turn
this
over
to
counselor
flaherty.
I
see
counselor
braden
you
came
back.
Did
you
want
to
go
after
counselor
flaherty.
B
U
Good,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
for
hosting
and
obviously
I'll
defer
to
your
comments
in
terms
of
our
time
is
short,
so
I've
been
listening
to
the
panelists
look
forward
to
participating
in
the
working
session
and
trying
to
strike
a
fair
balance
as
to
what
is
fair
and
appropriate
and
get
the
administration
to
to
engage
us
at
the
working
session.
But,
more
importantly,
let's
listen
to
public
testimony
from
folks
that
have
been
very
patient
so
with
that.
C
Yes,
mr
vice
chair,
she,
I
think
she's
left.
Oh
she's
still
here.
A
U
So
kerry,
if
you
could
go
to
the
waiting
room
there
and
start
to
allow
public
testimony,
that
would
be.
That
would
be
great.
V
W
U
X
Hello:
everyone
hi,
my
name
is
abdullah,
graham,
I
came
to
boston
in
2010
and
live
in
dorchester,
I'm
currently
a
freshman
at
wentworth
institute
of
technology
and
graduated
this
year
from
o'brien
high
school.
I'm
here
today,
because
I'm
concerned
about
bps
allowing
students
information
to
be
accessible
by
law
enforcement,
including
the
boston
police
department,
immigration
and
customs
enforcement
and
the
fbi.
Despite
being
considered
a
sanctuary,
school
district
boston,
public
schools
seems
to
be
aiding
law
enforcement
agencies
with
criminalizing
and
deploying
students.
X
Although
they
aren't
giving
out
information
directly,
they
are
still
allowing
other
parties
to
access
them.
Schools
should
be
sold
about
education
and
not
a
place
to
fear
being
separated
from
your
family
or
criminalized.
I
believe
that
this
is
not
an
appropriate
role
for
a
school
to
take.
Schools
would
benefit
from
allocating
this
time
and
resources
to
other
needed
areas
such
as
neglected
school
bathrooms.
This
does
not
only
affect
immigrants
living
in
boston,
but
also
practicing
muslims
such
as
myself.
X
I
don't
watch
for
bps
to
help
give
info
to
the
boston
police
department,
especially
since
the
boston
police
has
engaged
in
programs
such
as
the
ypip
or
the
youth
police
initiative.
Plus.
This
is
a
program
funded
by
the
department
of
homeland
security
that
recruits
somali
youth
to
interact
with
boston
police
department
officers.
However,
this
is
done
with
the
presumption
that
somali
youth
are
inherently
violent.
The
program
states
and
I
quote,
somali
youth-
are
enticed
by
police
officers,
capacity
to
carry
weapons,
their
loyalty
and
almost
gain-like
dress
code.
X
Apparently
from
what
we
gathered,
the
intention
is
to
expand
the
program
to
boston
public
schools
at
some
point
as
small
youth.
I
found
this
to
be
quite
offensive
and
wish
for
boston,
public
schools
to
have
no
part
in
this
program,
and
many
others
like
it.
In
order
to.
In
order
to
resolve
this,
I
wish
for
boston
public
schools
to
create
a
policy
that
limits
the
information
that
may
be
shared
with
law
enforcement
agencies.
Y
Good
afternoon
city
councilors,
my
name
is
christian
de
bonsalis,
I'm
from
east
boston
and
a
proud
member
of
the
student
immigration
movement
for
years.
Young
people,
families,
community
organizers,
educators
and
lawyers
have
been
trying
to
get
answers
to
important
questions
about
the
role
of
police
and
the
community.
Y
Y
We
need
this
ordinance
to
be
adopted
now,
because
people
should
not
have
to
be
worried
about
being
or
possibly
reported
to
state
and
federal
agencies
by
the
bpd
or
bps,
who
are
the
very
people
that
are
supposed
to
make
the
community
a
safer
and
more
secure
place.
City
councillors.
I
would
lastly
like
to
remind
you
that
our
city,
our
state
and
our
nation
as
a
whole,
built
on
several
key
ideas,
one
of
them
being
that
power
should
ultimately
be
placed
in
the
hands
of
the
people
and
the
communities.
Y
Z
Good
afternoon,
thank
you,
hello
city
council.
My
name
is
clara
and
I
live
in
blesson,
I'm
a
leader
of
the
student
immigrant
movement
and
I'm
testifying
in
support
of
the
ordinance
on
surveillance,
oversight
and
information
sharing.
For
years,
the
community
have
been
trying
to
get
answers
to
important
questions
about
the
role
of
police
in
the
city.
Z
To
protect
our
students,
we
need
to
limit
the
kinds
of
information,
boston,
public,
school
and
boston,
school
police
shared
with
the
boston
police
department,
which
then
shares
information
with
eyes.
Doing
so
will
protect
all
students,
including
immigrant
youth,
from
both
the
school
to
deportation
and
the
school
to
prison
pipeline.
It
is
absolutely
insane
to
stop
fighting
for
people's
right
in
this
century
and
the
fact
that
people
can
stop
this,
but
they
decide
to
look
the
other
way
put
something
like
my
nieces
in
danger.
It
is
a
shame
that
vps
is
working
in
collaboration
with
bree.
Z
Another
proof
that
the
immigrant
community
cannot
trust
the
bps
administration.
This
is
a
huge
betrayal
to
the
student
and
to
the
parents
who
send
them
every
single
day
to
get
a
better
education
for
better
opportunities.
Just
because
a
dumb
mistake
is
made
does
not
mean
that
a
kid
should
be
deported.
Z
These
students
are
just
individuals
like
your
kids,
trying
to
get
education
and
trying
to
figure
things
out
in
life.
The
only
difference
is
that
they
can
lose
their
stability,
their
family.
Everything
because
bps
is
sharing
the
information
with
bree.
It
sounds
selfish
and
human
to
me.
Boston,
school
police
and
the
boston
police
department
have
been
conflict
complicit
in
having
youth
incarcerated
and
deported
for
no
reason
other
than
being
youth
of
color.
Time
and
time
again,
the
harm
of
civilians
fall
hardest
on
immigrant
activists
and
people
of
color.
Z
The
same
community
with
health
and
safety
boston
should
be
fighting
to
protect.
The
communities
that
have
to
leave
soldiers
to
surveillance
technology
should
be
the
ones
to
decide
whether
they're
necessary
and
what
rules
should
be
in
place
for
them
to
use
the
community
should
be
in
control,
not
a
computer.
Z
V
T
Thank
you.
My
name
is
dania
barroso,
I'm
14
years
old
and
I'm
a
leader
of
sim
for
a
very
long
time
now
the
community
has
fought
to
get
answers
about
why
and
how
school
police
in
the
police
department
share.
Private
and
student
information,
school
police
and
the
police
department
have
caused
harm
and
mistrust
resulting
from
their
lack
of
care
for
our
people.
T
We
know
that
young
people
are
being
criminalized
for
normal
teen
behavior,
that
I
myself
have
experience
with
walking
down
the
hallway
after
class
and
having
the
school
police
pull
out
kids
of
the
school
for
just
talking
to
their
friends.
At
the
end
of
the
school
day,
there
is
no
transparency
with
students
or
families
about
what
police
are
doing
as
a
teenager
living
through
this.
T
I
need
the
surveillance
oversight
ordinance
to
be
adopted
now,
because
I'm
tired
of
having
to
worry
that
my
friends
and
I
are
constantly
in
danger
when
we're
just
hanging
out
being
a
teenager,
is
a
struggle
in
itself,
nonetheless
having
to
worry
about
being
safe
from
the
police
in
our
community.
Are
you
supposed
to
be
keeping
us
safe
instead
of
endangering
us
not
being
the
cause
of
our
anxiety,
fear
and
anger,
boston,
school
police
and
the
boston
police
department
have
been
complicit
in
having
youth
incarcerated
and
deported
for
no
reason
other
than
being
youth
of
color.
T
We
have
seen
this
with
our
own
eyes.
Boston
school
police
are
in
constant
communication
with
brick
to
the
point
where
they
share
student
files
and
information
via
email
without
notifying
families.
This
is
unacceptable.
The
fact
that
bps
wouldn't
say
this
themselves
shows
a
gross
lack
of
transparency,
transparency
and
accountability.
I
come
from
an
immigrant
family.
I
have
seen
my
own
parents
in
fear
from
the
police.
T
Now
I
am
in
fear
next
it
will
be
my
children.
If
I
don't
do
something
about
this
now
enough
is
enough.
This
ordinance
is
for
the
community.
Besides,
it
gives
us
a
voice
in
the
decision-making
process
that
decides
which
surveillance
technologies
will
be
used
when
and
how
the
community
should
be
in
control,
not
a
computer,
a
corporation
that
profits
from
surveillance,
an
executive
agency
working
in
secret
or
anyone
else.
Thank
you.
AA
AA
AA
AA
V
Next
we
have
karina,
and
if
karina
you
also
have
victor
with
you,
you
both
can
go
ahead
and
then.
U
Good
welcome
katrina
karina
and
victor.
AB
Hi
so
it'll
just
be
me
so
hi,
I'm
karina,
I'm
writing
as
the
field
organizer
for
the
student
immigrant
movement,
in
support
of
the
ordinance
on
surveillance
oversight
and
information
sharing
presented
by
councillors,
wu
and
aurora
and
council
president
janie.
This
ordinance
establishes
oversight
and
accountability
mechanisms
over
both
current
surveillance
practices
and
future
acquisitions
of
surveillance
technologies
in
the
city
of
boston.
The
ordinance
also
sets
a
rule
that
preserves
students,
privacy
and
prohibits
unnecessary
sharing
of
information
between
bps,
bp,
the
bsp
bpd
and
the
federal
agencies
like
ice.
AB
We
have
seen
a
clear
division
and
a
lack
of
transparency
from
the
institutions
and
systems
that
claim
to
protect
the
community.
Sim
and
other
partners
have
been
working
endlessly
to
pass
a
policy
that
would
protect
our
most
vulnerable
students
from
criminalization
within
the
school
environment,
not
just
in
boston,
but
over
the
country.
We
are
seeing
demands
for
more
transparency
and
clear
communication
between
law
enforcement
and
the
communities
who
are
targeted
and
affected
most
by
the
policies
are
locked
thereof.
I'm
here
today
to
urge
boston
to
pass
this
ordinance.
AB
If
we
want
to
see
real
structural
changes,
that
would
protect
the
iplc
communities
rather
than
continue
to
criminalize
them.
The
harms
of
surveillance
fall
hardest
on
immigrants,
activists
and
people
of
color
the
same
communities
whose
health
and
safety
boston
should
be
fighting
to
protect.
I
don't
want
to
hear
my
eight-year-old
nephew
tell
me
about
a
police
interaction
that
happened
at
school,
but
rather
what
activities
and
lesson
plans
he
did
that
day.
AB
AB
We
need
transparency
and
accountability
for
what
surveillance
tools
can
and
cannot
be
used
to
break
down
the
barriers
that
are
in
front
of
our
young
people
on
a
daily
basis.
Boston
must
pass
this
ordinance
and
join
somerville.
Cambridge
and
lawrence
not
only
protect
privacy,
rights
and
civil
liberties,
but
also
provide
tools
so
that
people
in
boston
can
hold
public
officials
accountable.
I
also
just
like
to
add
and
highlight,
like
many
of
the
panelists
and
members
have
been
saying.
It's
also
not
surprising
that
bps
and
bpd
is
not
here
to
have
this
conversation.
AB
V
Thank
you,
and
now
simon.
P
AC
All
right,
cool,
hi
so
I'll
make
this
quick.
Everyone's
already
said,
a
lot
of
beautiful
things,
so
my
name
is
simon.
I'm
a
member
of
the
boston
student
advisory
council
and
a
senior
at
bla,
I'm
here
today
to
show
my
support
for
the
ordinance
and
to
have
an
immediate
impact
in
bps.
AC
First
and
foremost,
this
issue
is
a
direct
showing
of
what
way
the
district
in
the
city
wants
to
go.
We
could
take
the
repeated
racist
and
white
supremacist
mindset
that
continues
to
hold
minority
students
back
while
allowing
for
the
continual
advancement
of
hawaii
and
affluent
students,
or
we
can
switch
it
up
for
once
and
we
can
take.
We
can
make
an
attempt
to
change,
to
create
a
change
in
our
system
that
we
are
currently
living
under
and
provide
more
safety,
transparency
and
community
involvement.
AC
The
options
are
actually
quite
simple
and,
like
my
fellow
visa
members
said,
kamari
well
come
on,
you
said
earlier,
it's
freaking
november
2020.
there's
no
way.
We
should
still
be
dealing
over
the
same
issues
that
I'm
having
for
years
and
years
and
years.
We
need
to
have
a
more
efficient
system,
because
this
has
been
going
on
way
too
long
in
our
city.
There's,
no
reason
why
we
should
continue
supporting
why
we
shouldn't
continue
supporting
the
school
to
prison
pipeline
in
boston
and
inherently
by
not
passing
things
like
this
and
being
efficient
in
our
actions.
AC
V
Thank
you.
Next
we're
gonna
have
sabrina
and
then
brandy
and
then
christopher
lucy.
AD
Hi,
can
everyone
hear
me.
AD
I'm
here
today
to
share
my
experiences
as
a
young
person
and
as
an
organizer,
I'm
22
years
old,
and
I
come
from
a
mcstatus
family,
my
family
and
I
we've
been
personally
impacted
by
law
enforcement
separating
our
family,
and
I
know
what
it's
like
to
be
years
without
someone
that
you
love.
I
know
what
it's
like
to
live
in
fear
because
you
don't
want
to
lose
someone
in
your
family,
and
I
know
what
it's
like
to
be
afraid
to
share
your
needs.
AD
Your
experiences
out
of
fear
that
that
information
will
be
used
against
you,
and
so,
even
as
I
am
today
and
the
people
that
I
work
with,
I
can't
when
I
talk
to
the
young
people
that
I
work
with
when
I
see
their
faces
and
when
we
talk
about
our
concerns,
it's
clear
to
me
that
they
are
concerned
about
the
same
problems
that
I
am
and
for
a
good
reason.
With
my
own
eyes,
I've
seen
how
I've
seen
reports
that
bps
has
been
apprehensive
to
share
they
just
recently
shared
with
lawyers.
AD
And
it's
one
of
these
things
that
it's
it's
it's
a
situation
that
has
created
so
much
damage
and
mistrust,
as
as
we've
heard
from
other
young
people
to
the
point
where
it's
been
years
and
we've
had
conversations
with
casillas
the
lawyers,
the
administration
as
a
whole
central
office
and
they've,
told
us
to
our
face
that
this
was
over
and
done
with
that.
It
was
a
one-time
situation.
AD
But
now,
looking
at
these
reports,
we
can
see
that
there's
been
communication
between
bp
boston,
school,
police
and
brick
as
of
june
as
as
of
january
2020,
when
we
were
working
with
them
and
they
told
us
to
our
face
that
it
had
stopped.
So
this
is
a
very
serious
problem,
a
very
critical
issue
for
us
to
work
on
and
to
me.
AD
As
a
city,
we
have
a
responsibility
to
hold
bps
accountable
to
hold
the
police
accountable
to
hold
brick
accountable
for,
for
jeopardizing
the
well-being
of
our
young
people
in
the
city,
and
you
know
I
I
really
want
to
highlight
the
fact
that
this
is
again
not
just
for
undocumented
students.
This
is
for
young
people
across
the
city
and
for
families
across
the
city.
This
surveillance
ordinance
is
not
just
for
schools.
This
will
also
help
us
readdress
and
reimagine
the
way
that
we
are
giving
power
holding
power
in
our
communities.
AD
This
is
for
everyone's
well-being,
not
just
for
young
people
or
students
who
are
a
part
of
bps,
and
it's
crucial
that
we
pass
this
ordinance
to
join
cambridge
somerville
lawrence
to
really
uphold
community
control.
So,
thank
you
all
for
listening
to
me.
AE
Hello,
thank
you.
My
name
is
brandi
henry
and
I'm
here
today
on
behalf
of
the
national
association
of
social
workers,
massachusetts
chapter
to
speak
in
support
of
the
ordinance
on
surveillance
oversight
and
information
sharing
presented
by
council
president
janie
and
counselors
woowen
arroyo
an
ordinance
providing
accountability,
transparency
and
oversight
regarding
the
use
and
acquisition
of
surveillance
technologies
and
surveillance.
Data
collected
by
the
city
of
boston,
its
agencies
and
its
public
officials
is
critically
important
to
the
city
of
boston.
AE
This
ordinance
provides
important
protections
to
all
students
in
boston,
public
schools
and
especially
protects
our
undocumented
students.
Boston,
public
schools
must
be
a
safe
and
welcoming
place
for
all
students.
No
matter
their
immigration
status,
students
shouldn't
fear
going
to
school
will
result
in
their
information
being
shared
with
ice
with
this
law.
Boston
will
set
a
new
course
using
a
tried
and
tested
framework
based
on
inclusivity
and
community
consent.
AE
Over
a
dozen
cities
nationwide,
including
three
in
massachusetts,
cambridge
somerville
and
lawrence
have
already
benefited
from
the
transparency
and
accountability
this
type
of
ordinance
brings
as
social
workers.
We
believe
that
the
more
inclusive
and
democratic
the
process,
the
stronger,
safer
and
healthier
our
communities
will
be
our
current
policy
and
practice
falls
short
to
create
a
safe
learning
environment
for
our
students.
AE
Current
data
shows
that
over
130
reports
from
boston
public
schools
have
landed
in
isis
hands
due
to
insufficient
protections
at
the
city
level.
To
protect
our
students,
we
need
to
limit
the
kinds
of
information,
boston,
public
schools
share
with
the
boston
police
department,
which
then
shares
information
with
ice.
Doing
so
will
protect
undocumented
students
and
many
others
from
both
the
school
to
deportation
and
school
to
prison
pipelines.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
AF
You
assembled
city,
councilors
and
assemble
advocates
today,
as
a
descendant
of
immigrants,
as
a
citizen
of
the
country
as
a
resident
of
the
city
and
as
a
volunteer
in
a
group
called
restore
the
fourth.
I
feel
that
it's
imperative
that
we
have
a
vigorous
local
oversight,
ordinance
for
surveillance
technologies
of
all
kinds,
no
matter
whether
we
see
them
today
or
some
that
we
may
see
in
the
no
matter
how
it
is
acquired,
how
it
is
used
or
what
type
it
is
and
I'm
not
a
complete
abolitionist.
AF
I
think
that
is
important,
that
they
be
held
accountable
to
our
local
elected
officials
and
that
they
that
they
be
in
synchronous
with
our
with
our
constitutional
guarantees,
and
I
believe
that
this
is
a
much
wider
issue
than
just
for
those
who
are
recent
immigrants
or
those
who
are
younger
people
in
the
public
school
system.
This
is
an
issue
that
all
of
us,
as
citizens,
in
this
city
and
in
the
country
where
we
have
multiple
layers
of
laws,
we
have
federal
laws.
AF
AG
Thanks,
my
name
is
mo
lotman,
I'm
also
a
volunteer
with
restore
the
fourth
that
live
in
somerville
and
I
also
publish
a
magazine
called
the
technoskeptic,
which
is
intelligent
technology
criticism.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
on
the
council
for
bringing
this
this
surveillance
ordinance
up
and
this
incredible
support
that
it
seems
to
have
from
almost
everyone
we've
heard
from
it's
really
encouraging.
AG
AG
We've
seen
that
the
governments
and
corporations
and
law
enforcement
conduct,
mass
surveillance,
they've
abused
this
power.
They
violated.
Fourth,
amendment
of
just
ordinary
people
going
about
their
regular
business,
whether
it's
license
plate
readers,
ubiquitous
video
cameras,
facial
recognitions,
drones,
warrantless
eavesdropping.
AG
We
see
that
it's
it.
If
the.
If
the
technology
is
available,
it
will
be
used
and
when
a
criminal
statute
is
violated,
the
violator
goes
to
prison
or
gets
fined.
But
when
the
fourth
amendment
is
violated,
nothing
happens
and
no
one
is
punished,
because
the
courts
usually
refuse
to
find
standing
for
the
plaintiffs,
and
they
want
proof
that
some
secondary
harm
has
been
committed.
AG
So
we've
seen
this
again
and
again
that
the
fourth
amendment,
our
constitutional
rights,
are
violated
and
there's
no
consequences,
and
so
unfortunately,
it's
come
down
to
municipal
governments
and
state
governments
to
be
on
the
front
lines
of
protecting
the
civil
liberties
and
the
actual
constitutional
rights
of
citizens,
and
so
that's
why
it's
so
important
for
cities
like
boston
to
take
the
lead
and
pass
this
kind
of
ordinance
to
put
surveillance
under
civilian
oversight.
AG
The
only
one
other
thing
I
want
to
add
is
just
that
section:
2
does
have
a
bunch
of
exemptions
for
for
cameras,
and
I
and
I
would
like
to
at
least
put
forward
the
idea
that
those
exemptions
should
not
be
there,
because
cameras
are
also
incredibly
invasive
and
the
use
of
the
data
that's
collected
by
cameras
can
later
be
used
with
various
other
technologies
to
create
further
harms.
Thank
you.
So
much.
V
Next,
we're
going
to
hear
from
matt
krieger
and
then
after
that
we'll
hear
from
elizabeth
mcintyre
and
elizabeth
badger.
AH
U
AH
Thank
you
very
much
counselor.
Thank
you
city
council
for
holding
this
hearing,
matt
fager
staff
attorney
from
the
mental
health
legal
advisors
committee
for
the
supreme
judicial
court,
we're
here
to
offer
our
unwavering
support
for
the
learn
without
fear
policy,
and
to
thank
the
counselors
behind
this
as
well
as,
of
course,
the
student
immigrant
movement
and
unafraid
educators
for
their
tireless
efforts
on
this.
And
while
a
lot
of
the
focus
is
properly
on
information
that
bps
and
our
law
enforcement
agents
should
not
be
sharing
about
students.
AH
AH
The
state
department
of
education,
the
globe
later
uncovered
110
more
from
the
exact
same
year.
If
we
at
this
moment
when
our
children
aren't
even
in
schools
and
we're
at
the
edge
of
of
of
a
real
financial
precipice
here,
given
the
pandemic,
I
think
we
really
need
to
know
not
only
why
police
are
in
our
schools,
but
what
exactly
they're
doing
there
and,
as
the
council
looks
deeply
at
surveillance,
technology
and
information
sharing.
AH
Just
urge
continual
concern
to
make
sure
that,
when
it
comes
to
things
that
bps
and
bpd
should
actually
be
reporting,
they
make
sure
that
data
gets
state
and
to
the
public
where
it
belongs.
So
we
can
decide
as
a
public
whether
it's
right
to
have
police
with
our
school
children
in
our
school
buildings.
Thank
you.
AI
Hi
good
evening,
my
name
is
elizabeth
mcintyre
and
I'm
a
senior
staff
attorney
at
greater
boston,
legal
services
in
our
schools,
prison
pipeline
intervention
project,
so
we
represent
young
people
of
color
with
disabilities
in
school
discipline
and
special
education
cases,
and
I'm
here
today
to
address
chapter
four
of
the
moments
which
would
govern
the
relationship
between
the
boston,
school
police
now
called
the
department
of
safety
services
and
the
bpd.
AI
I
do
want
to
note
at
the
outset
that
law
enforcement
officers
make
their
schools
less
safe,
not
more
safe,
and
that
a
true
department
of
safety
services
would
focus
on
building
anti-racist,
trauma-sensitive
schools,
meaningful
well-funded
restorative
justice
and
inclusionary
special
education
programs.
AI
Unfortunately,
that
policy
continues
to
give
school
police
authority
to
criminalize
students
for
developmentally
typical
behavior,
and
it
is
critical
that
this
ordinance
protect
our
young
people
where
the
district
did
not.
Under
this
new
policy.
Boston
school
police
continue
to
create
boston,
police
department
records
called
one
ones.
These
are
law
enforcement
records
that
expose
students
to
a
variety
of
terrifying
legal
consequences.
AI
For
example,
I
have
represented
a
12
year
old
autistic
boy,
who
is
running
in
circles
in
a
school
foyer
crying
say
he
wanted
to
call
his
mom.
He
pushed
a
chair
in
the
foyer
out
of
his
path
as
he
ran.
The
chair
fell
over
and
landed
near
a
school
police
officer,
a
nine-year-old
girl
with
ptsd
who
became
anxious
because
she
thought
a
classmate
was
staring
at
her.
AI
She
refused
to
get
on
the
bus
with
that
classmate
and
when
a
bus
monitor
tried
to
take
her
hand
to
pull
her
onto
the
bus,
she
slapped
the
bus,
monitor's
hand
away
and
ran
back
into
school
and
a
14
year
old,
who
elbowed
a
classmate
out
of
the
way
when
the
classmate
leaned
on
his
locker
and
prevented
him
from
being
able
to
open
it.
The
district's
policy
right
now
continues
to
allow
the
creation
of
bpd
reports
and
the
harm
that
follows
them
in
each
of
those
cases.
AI
Training
will
not
solve
this
problem
if
the
district
agrees
that
we
should
not
criminalize
students
for
developmentally
typical
conduct
or
conduct
related
to
their
disabilities,
let's
write
that
into
law.
It
is
critical
that
the
council
adopt
the
much
narrower
language
proposed
in
chapter
four
of
this
ordinance.
Thanks
for
your
time,.
U
G
Thank
you
good
evening.
My
name
is
elizabeth
badger.
I
am
a
senior
attorney
at
the
pair
project,
which
is
a
legal
services
organization
that
serves
non-citizens
in
massachusetts.
I've
testified
before
the
city
council
before
about
the
devastating
impact
that
information
sharing
has
had
on
my
young
immigrant
clients.
G
They
demonstrate,
I
would
say,
a
specific
intent
in
our
policing
and
in
our
immigration
system
and
what's
now
overflowed
to
our
school
system,
to
criminalize
black
and
brown
students
through
an
unchecked
flow
of
allegations
that
are
often
unsupported
or
allege
no
criminal
conduct
at
all.
There
are
several
email
exchanges
directly
between
ice
officials
and
bps
safety
services.
Officers
of
the
nature.
G
The
safety
services
officer
may
respond
with
information
or
says
no,
not
yet
I'll.
Keep
watching
him
demonstrating
an
intent
to
to
troll
students
for
derogatory
information
that
could
then
be
passed
to
ice.
So,
if
we're
going
to
keep
even
keep
officers
in
the
schools,
we
need
to
return
them
to
a
role
of
supporting,
not
criminalizing
students,
but
not
once
in
the
records
of
the
several
hundred
pages
that
I've
read
so
far.
G
G
Lastly,
I
want
to
stress
the
importance
of
the
notice
provisions
in
section
5,
also
something
that
the
bps
policy
lacks
for
students
and
families.
It
took
three
years
and
many
many
lawyers
to
get
to
the
point
where
bps
produced
public
records
regarding
the
information
that
they
were
sharing
with
ice
and
bpd.
G
So
not
only
is
section
5
important
for
facilitating
families
rights
to
get
their
records,
but
it
plays
a
role
in
the
enforcement
of
this
policy,
and
I
was
also
part
of
the
many
months
where
we
were
very
patient
working
with
bps
on
their
policy,
and
I
I
frankly
have
to
say
that
you
know
unless
they're
going
to
come
here
and
say
we're
going
to
take
police
out
of
schools,
there's
not
much
that
they
can
say
that
we
haven't
already
addressed.
V
U
All
right,
so
I'm
thinking
we
may
want
to
shift
to
the
video.
So
let
me
give
that
some
thoughts
so
for
the
for
those
that
are
still
yet
to
testify.
U
Given
we
have
a
hard
stop
at
six
o'clock,
if
we
could
either
condense
the
public
testimony
into
say
like
a
minute
minute
and
a
half
or
we
could
go
to
the
video
and
then
whatever
remaining
time
we
have
so,
let's
see
we'll
take
a
couple
more
and
let's
see
if
we
can
get
folks
to
condense,
and
if
we
can,
we
can
get
everything
in
otherwise
I'll
shift
to
do
the
video
and
then
come
back
to
public
testimony
and
for
my
colleagues
that
are
still
on
if
they
have
any
additional
parting
comments.
U
Let
me
know
by
a
show
of
hands.
I
guess
so
we
can
get
the
public
testimony
in
before
we
go
back
to
the
colleagues
thanks
michelle.
V
So
next
up
we
have
sorry
maddie,
cropley
and
then
mary
claire
flores
and
then
max.
V
AJ
Good
afternoon,
counselors
and
good
afternoon
advocates
a
big
shout
out
to
everybody
on
the
panel.
Thank
you
for
all
the
work
you
do
with
the
young
people.
My
name
is
matty
cropley.
I
use
they
them
pronouns.
AJ
AJ
I've
heard
stories
from
teens
time
and
again
about
how
much
scrutiny
they
they're
subjected
to
in
school
buildings
and
out
in
public
on
outreach
visits
to
schools.
I've
had
teens
tell
me
they
don't
want
to
come
into
the
library,
because
they're
surveillance
cameras,
when
I
invite
them
to
come
into
different
library
programs.
I
know
this
ordinance
isn't
going
to
remove
cameras,
but
these
concerns
of
theirs
point
to
the
larger
effects
of
surveillance,
on
teams,
whether
it's
technological
or
administrative
surveillance.
Now
for
many
teams,
public
buildings
and
institutions
are
a
place
of
scrutiny,
punishment
and
control.
AJ
They
can
see
it,
they
can
feel
it,
and
some
of
them
are
in
this
public
hearing
telling
us
telling
us
that
other
advocates
here
today
can
speak
better
than
I
ever
could
about
how
boston
public
schools
share
students,
information
which
ends
up
in
the
hands
of
federal
authorities,
resulting
in
terrible
consequences
for
the
young
people
involved,
contact
with
police
for
what
is
essentially
normal
team
behavior
has
long
lasting
and
irrevocable
effects
on
the
future
outcomes
for
young
people,
especially
black
teens
and
teens
of
color.
AJ
I
support
this
ordinance
because
it
gives
people
the
people
of
the
city
of
boston
and
the
students
and
the
young
people
a
voice
by
building
accountability
measures
and
community
oversight
of
the
sharing
of
student
information
with
police,
as
others
have
stated
here
today.
School
policy
on
sharing
student
information
must
recognize
the
dignity
and
vulnerability
of
black
brown
and
immigrant
youth.
We
cannot
continue
to
let
our
schools
be
a
part
of
the
pipeline
to
deportation
or
prison
students
should
not
have
to
hear
going
to
school
or
anywhere
else
in
public
for
that
matter.
AJ
V
AK
Hi,
my
name
is
max
kennedy
and
I'm
a
math
teacher
at
margarita
munici
academy
in
the
boston
public
schools.
I'm
here
today
to
urge
city
council
to
pass
the
surveillance
oversight
ordinance.
As
a
teacher,
I
was
deeply
troubled
this
year
to
learn
to
the
to
learn
of
the
extent
of
bps's
sharing
of
student
information
with
federal
law
enforcement,
and
I
was
particularly
disturbed
to
learn
that
incident
reports
describing
what
should
have
been
routine
school
disciplinary
matters
have
been
shared
with
federal
immigration
enforcement.
AK
When
I
read
about
the
kinds
of
situations
that
have
been
described
in
these
incident
reports
like
disturbing
a
school
assembly,
my
thoughts
go
immediately
to
my
own
students
as
teachers.
We
understand
the
difference
between
a
routine
school
disciplinary
matter
matter
and
a
criminal
one,
and
I
think
about
the
many
disturbances
I've
de-escalated
over
the
years
and
followed
up
with
appropriate
school-based
consequences.
AK
What
if
a
school
resource
officer
had
intervened
or
witnessed
the
incident
and
written
up
a
report?
Not
knowing
my
students
like
I
do,
would
they
have
interpreted
the
behavior
as
criminal
and
sent
the
report
to
the
police
department?
Could
my
most
vulnerable
students,
those
who
are
undocumented
their
safety
and
security
threatened
by
the
very
people
meant
to
protect
them?
This
inappropriate
and
dangerous
sharing
of
student
information
with
federal
agencies
is
entirely
due
to
our
school
district's.
AK
Failure
to
provide
clear
and
authoritative
guidance
on
what
kinds
of
incidents
incident
reports
may
be
submitted
to
the
boston
police
department
under
significant
pressure
from
a
coalition
of
students
and
teachers,
the
district
has
passed
a
policy
that
they
claim
would
remedy
the
situation.
Unfortunately,
their
new
policy
remains
woefully
insufficient
to
address
the
problem.
The
new
policy
still
allows
school
police
to
submit
incident
reports
to
the
boston
police
department,
and
the
district
has
failed
to
put
in
place
meaningful
oversight
regarding
the
nature
of
these
reports
or
who
bpd
shares.
AK
We
need
a
policy
that
makes
it
absolutely
clear
and
explicit
what
types
of
incidents
may
be
written
up
by
school.
Resource
officers
provide
prohibits
student
information
from
being
shared
with
bpd
and
federal
law
enforcement,
and
lays
out
a
strong
and
clear
system
of
independent
oversight
to
ensure
that
these
definitions
are
not
left
up
to
the
interpretation
of
individual
officers.
AK
AL
AL
Fourth,
of
course,
we
want
to
thank
the
council
and
those
who
have
co-sponsored
this
important
measure,
including
our
allies
at
the
aclu
of
massachusetts,
the
student
immigrant
movement,
the
unafraid
educators
and
the
muslim
justice
league,
of
course,
for
your
great
work
and
testimony
here
today
and
advocacy
for
this
draft
as
a
quick
background
restore
the
fourth
or
rt4
boston.
AL
Is
the
local
chapter
of
an
all-volunteer
civil
liberties
organization
restored
the
fourth
which
was
formed
in
2012,
and
we
oppose
unconstitutional
government
surveillance
and
protect
the
privacy
of
residents
of
greater
boston
and
across
the
nation,
and
while
we
believe
that
this
ordinance
is
generally
well
drafted
and
deserves
city
councilors
support,
as
we
heard
here
today,
we
all
support
this
measure
and
passage
of
it.
We
have
provided
some
amendments
to
improve
the
ordinance
in
ways
that
we
think
make
it
unambiguous,
effective
and
future
proof.
AL
Two
with
our
comments
and
then
detailed
comments
on
pages
three
through
six
in
your
packets,
I
believe,
but
just
to
summarize
really
quickly
in
sections
2.1.1
and
2.1.2,
exempting
from
the
definition
of
surveillance
data
data,
which
has
which
has
been
provided
in
exchange
for
city
services,
created
profound
problems
where
those
city
services
are
vital,
such
as
police
services
or
services
from
boston,
public
schools,
provisions
in
2.3
and
2.4
on
extension
circumstances
and
redactions
leave
too
much
to
the
discretion
of
the
police.
AL
Commissioner
and
the
mayor
in
section
4.2.3,
the
90-day
limit
for
city
council
review
of
surveillance
technology,
we
should
just
should
be
lengthened
to
at
least
120
days
and
section
4.2.11
or
11
the
surveillance
technology
impact
reports
should
include
not
only
the
cost
of
technology
to
the
city
budget,
but
the
overall
cost
of
the
technology,
and
there
are
some
detailed
comments
breaking
down
what
that
means.
There,
provisions
and
7.2
on
suppression
need
to
be
broadened,
and
then
the
language
in
7.3
on
enforcement
should
include
a
specific
dollar
amount.
AL
A
person
can
recover
from
a
violating
party
and
provisions
for
awarding
attorneys
fees.
So
those
are
some
of
our
amendments
and
again
we
provided
written
testimony,
so
I
won't
take
too
much
more
time
just
quickly.
Those
are
on
page
two
with
detailed
comments
on
pages
three
through
six.
Thank
you
guys.
AB
V
Next
up,
we
have
lena.
AM
Hi
everybody,
my
name
is
lena
papayanas,
I'm
a
bps
teacher.
I've
been
involved
in
this
work
since
the
issues
first
came
to
light
in
2017.,
so
other
folks
have
already
explained
what's
missing
in
the
bps
policy
and
how
this
ordinance
fills
the
gaps
on
the
school
issue.
What
I'm
going
to
offer
here
is
some
evidence
as
to
why
we
cannot
trust
that
the
officers
will
follow
the
bps
policy
as
it
stands,
and
why
the
stronger
language
from
the
ordinance
is
what's
needed.
AM
These
emails
are
not
under
protective
order,
so
I
want
to
share
some
of
those
emails
with
you
today
with
the
names
fully
redacted,
because
the
specific
language
in
the
emails
actually
helps
us
to
understand
what
we're
dealing
with
here
and
why
the
strong
limits
and
strong
oversight
are
necessary
and
because
I
really
appreciate
what
president
jamie
said
earlier,
that
these
conversations,
including
the
evidence
substantiating
them,
need
to
be
had
in
a
public
forum.
So
one
email
from
a
school
police
officer
to
bric
pd.boston.gov
has
a
subject
line
identification,
and
this
is
the
email
good
afternoon.
AM
My
name
is
officer
blank
with
the
bsp
assigned
to
the
blank
k-8
school
received
an
email
this
morning
from
the
brick
there
is
a
photo
of
four
blank
standing
on
a
set
of
stairs
in
front
of
a
house.
The
individual
with
blank
is
blank
who
is
a
student
at
my
school?
Please
give
me
a
call
on
my
cell
if
you
need
more
information.
Thank
you.
The
officer,
the
school
police
officer
then
sends
a
profile
of
a
student
and
but
the
profile
that
he
sends
is
from
another
school,
not
his
school.
AM
So
then,
a
while
later
he
writes
again
and
says
my
apologies
disregard
the
first
sheet
I
sent
this
is
the
correct
information
and
he
sends
the
second
profile
of
a
student
right.
Nothing
has
happened
here,
he's
identifying
a
student,
a
picture
off
school
property,
a
second
email
from
the
brick
to
a
boston,
police
officer,
school
police
officer.
I'm
sorry
bsp!
AM
Do
you
have
a
blank
that
attends
blank,
meaning
your
school?
The
bsp
officer
responds
quote:
okay,
bro!
I
am
checking
now
and
I
will
let
you
know
the
brick
then
sends
a
photo
to
help
the
officer
identify
and
the
bsp
officer
then
sends
a
profile
of
a
student
back
to
the
brick.
The
brick
person
then
forwards
that
to
an
ice.dhs.gov
address
asking
this.
Your
guy
question
mark
email,
number,
three,
there's
only
two
more
from
the
brick
to
three
ice
agents.
With
the
subject
line
school
police
incident.
AM
This
email
includes
an
incident
report
written
by
school
police
and
has
the
following
commentary
from
the
brick
to
the
ice.
People
quote
note:
the
school
police
report
lists
both
meaning
both
individuals
in
the
report,
students
as
self-admitting
gang
membership.
This
is
gang
verification.
Gold,
end
quote:
email
number,
four
from
the
bsp
officer
to
the
brick:
hey.
Does
anyone
have
anything
on
this
individual?
He
was
walking
with
blank.
During
lunch,
the
student
was
wearing
white
and
blue
rosary,
beads
blue
jacket
and
a
blue
hat.
We
will
keep
an
eye
out
for
him.
AM
His
attendance
is
horrible.
The
brick
person
responds
with
he's
not
in
any
incidents.
So
far,
last
email-
this
is
from
ice
ice,
says.
Do
you
guys
know
this
subject,
the
bsp
officer
school
police
officer
responds
with
yes,
sir
he's
a
student
at
blank.
We
don't
have
anything
on
him
yet
still
watching
him.
This
kid
has
the
same
address
as
blank
ice
responds
any
suspicion
of
ms
or
18th
street
referencing
gangs
in
boston,
brick
response.
AM
I
can't
find
him
in
any
bpd
records,
but
as
blank
meaning,
the
bsp
officer
said:
there's
the
same
address
as
blank
okay,
so
very
quickly.
What
do
these
email
chains
tell
us
and
there's
hundreds
of
these
hundreds
and
hundreds
right,
but
we
can't
read
them
all.
AM
Free
flow
of
information
confirmed
what
everyone
thought
all
along
in
through
incident
reports.
Yes,
but
author,
through
emails
and
through
phone
there's,
some
very
personal
chummy
emails
right,
there's
a
great
deal
of
comfort
here,
there's
also
a
general
brick
list
serve
that
is
used.
That's
also
really
troubling
immigration
cases
are
being
fortified
using
bsp
files
on
students,
not
just
incident
reports.
We
also
see
that
this
was
a
k-8
school
that
was
referenced
in
one
of
the
emails
and
not
just
one
middle
schoolers
are
being
pursued
by
the
brick
middle
schoolers.
AM
There
is
also
important
to
note
here
that
there's
some
kind
of
database
that
bsp
is
operating
and
using
from
which
they
are
drawing
information
about
students
and
then
share
with
other
law
enforcement
to
the
point
where
they
have
access
clearly
to
individual
students
at
other
schools,
not
the
school
that
they're
currently
at
the
last
little
point
here.
That's
really
important.
It's
not
so
little
is
that
school
police
accusations,
school
police
accusations
of
gang
membership
are
actively
being
used
in
the
bpd's
10-point
system.
AM
That
was
the
line
about
the
gang
verification
gold,
meaning
that
the
fact
that
a
school
police
officer
said
that
this
person
was
a
self-admitting
gang
member
that
gets
that
child
eight
points
in
the
ten
point
system,
so
eight
eighty
percent
of
the
way
there
to
being
confirmed
by
the
bpd
as
a
gang
member,
so
the
takeaway,
if
nothing
else,
is
that
these
emails
show
that
boston,
school
police
officers
are
part
of
law
enforcement
apparatus
of
the
city
and
the
federal
government,
both
in
their
self-imagination
and
also
in
the
existing
structures
of
city
government.
AM
This
means
that
we
can't
trust
them
to
follow
the
policy.
Any
policy
that
serves
to
limit
these
relationships.
We
can't
just
say
that
okay
they'll
do
it
on
their
own.
The
district
policy
does
not
do
enough
to
actually
oversee
that
communication
between
bsp
and
the
bpd
and
ice
and
the
brick
will
actually
be
above
board.
We
can't
actually
check
it
because
the
incident
reports,
these
1.1s
go
directly
into
bpd
hands,
and
then
we
don't
get
to
see
them.
AM
AM
We
don't
want
that
to
happen,
so
this
ordinance
is
absolutely
needed
to
address
these
concerns.
I
just
want
to
end
with
this
one
thing
that
when
we
read
these
things-
and
we
see
this
guy-
is
this
your
guy
and
this
subject
we're
talking
about
people's
children,
we're
talking
about
my
students.
These
are
our
kids
in
our
city.
Let's
stand
up
for
them!
Thank
you.
V
Thank
you
amy.
You
have
the
floor
and
then
we're
gonna
go
to
rebecca
mulligan
and
then
emily
liang.
W
I
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
counselors.
My
name
is
amy
vanderhill.
I
live
in
roslindale
and
I'm
here
as
a
citizen
who
cares
about
this
issue
and
I'm
here
to
support
this
ordinance
because
it
establishes
oversight
and
accountability
mechanisms
over
the
current
surveillance
practices
and
the
acquisition
of
future
surveillance
technologies.
W
It
also
sets
up
rules
to
reserve
student
privacy
and
prohibit
unnecessary
information
sharing
between
the
agencies.
As
we've
heard
for
too
long
in
this
country,
we've
largely
accepted
that
police
departments
and
agencies
will
be
funded
to
buy
weapons
and
surveillance
equipment,
but
this
is
the
expense
of
what
our
communities
need.
This
must
stop.
Now
I
work
as
support
staff
at
mit
in
the
computer,
science
and
artificial
intelligence
laboratory.
W
The
policy
in
the
building
in
which
I
work
is
that
we
don't
use
video
surveillance
cameras,
even
though
there's
always
the
potential
for
equipment,
theft
or
other
safety
issues.
The
community
has
decided
against
surveillance
because
we
feel
students,
staff
and
the
faculty.
Their
civil
rights
are
more
important
than
property.
W
It's
vital
that
everyone
in
our
city
be
able
to
do
their
work,
to
interact
in
their
community
to
move
about
freely
without
being
subject
to
collection
of
data,
profiling,
surveillance
and
loss
of
privacy,
police
departments
and
agencies
have
unprecedented
power
over
our
communities,
and
advances
in
technologies
will
only
increase
this
imbalance.
In
order
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
fair,
just
and
effective
system,
we
must
have
mechanisms
of
accountability.
W
Time
and
again,
the
harms
of
surveillance
fall
hardest
on
immigrants,
activists
and
people
of
color.
These
are
the
same
communities
whose
health
and
safety
boston
should
be
fighting
to
protect.
This
ordinance
serves
those
communities
and
all
communities
by
giving
residents
a
voice
in
the
decision-making
process.
That
decides
which
surveillance
technologies
will
be
used
when
and
how
the
city
of
boston
has
no
current
mechanism
by
which
residents
can
have
a
voice
regarding
the
surveillance
equipment,
that's
used
to
control
and
police
them.
This
ordinance
before
the
council
provides
this
critical
institutional
reform.
W
V
AN
AN
AN
Our
boston
city
officials,
from
the
mayor
to
members
of
the
city
council
regularly
visit
banca
to
share
words
of
inspiration
and
encouragement
to
our
immigrant
students.
Like
many
other
decision
makers
of
the
city,
you
tell
our
students
that
you
welcome
and
value
them.
I
hope
you
will
stand
by
your
words
and
put
them
into
action
by
passing
this
ordinance.
That
includes
a
clear,
strict,
accountable
policy
for
bps
collaboration
with
law
enforcement.
AN
If
you
work
to
stop
write-ups
from
making
their
way
to
law
enforcement,
then
the
generous
words
you
share
with
my
students
will
ring
true.
Otherwise
they
fall
devastatingly
and
dangerously
flat.
We
cannot
honestly
celebrate
and
encourage
our
students,
while
quietly
handing
their
information
over
to
law
enforcement.
We
cannot
tell
them
that
we
welcome
them
into
our
school,
while
we
are
contributing
to
the
possibility
that
they
will
be
violently
removed
or
otherwise
incarcerated.
AN
Black
indigenous
pocr
people
are
already
incur
incarcerated,
unjustly
and
disproportionately
students
should
not
come
to
school
wondering
if
their
behavior
in
school
could
lead
to
such
a
fate
for
themselves.
They
know
that
this
happens
and
they
know
what
happens
in
boston.
The
policy
passed
by
the
boston
school
committee
is
not
strong
enough.
The
categories
of
incidents
that
allow
for
student
information
to
be
reported
and
shared
with
law
enforcement
are
still
too
broad.
AN
We
need
a
policy
that
makes
it
clear
to
students
that
they
will
be
safe
in
our
schools,
a
policy
that
is
clearly
articulated
stringent
and
executed
with
transparency,
because
the
school
district
did
not
deliver
on
this.
It's
important
to
pass
this
ordinance
that
includes
the
policy
written
by
sim
mbtu's
unafraid
educators.
This
will
ensure
that
the
certain
steps
we
take
to
secure
student
safety
do
not
in
turn
endanger
them
even
more.
We
need
this
policy
now
in
order
to
know
that
students
information
will
not
be
shared
with
law
enforcement.
AN
U
AO
Floor,
thank
you
very
much
good
evening
to
everyone.
Thank
you
to
the
counselors
and
the
sponsors
and
all
the
amazing
organizers
and
support.
My
name
is
emily
long.
I'm
a
supervising
immigration
attorney
at
the
justice
center
of
southeast
massachusetts.
I've
previously
testified
before
the
city
council
on
issues
related
to
the
bric
and
gang
database,
and
my
organization
is
party
to
the
lawsuit
led
by
the
aclu
that
is
looking
to
get
more
transparency
around
the
brick
gang
database
and
information
sharing
and
that's
happening
between
bps.
AO
There
are
multiple
lawsuits,
of
course,
but
party
to
one
of
them.
There's
been
so
much
wonderful
testimony
today
and
it
is
very
late
in
the
day.
So
I
just
want
to
lend
my
support
and
be
another
member
of
the
course
that
is
supporting
this
ordinance
and
also,
I
can
confirm,
from
my
perspective,
as
an
immigration
attorney,
that
I
have
also
witnessed
the
direct
impacts
of
these
information,
sharing
policies
and
surveillance
efforts
on
communities
of
color
and
from
my
experience,
particularly
on
immigrant
communities
of
color
and
immigrant
use.
AO
I
think
that
the
policies
are
being
promoted
in
this
ordinance
are
very
common
sense,
and
I
would
just
like
to
share
that
in
the
early
days
after
the
trump
administration
took,
came
and
came
into
power,
many
local
state
agencies,
as
well
as
social
services
agencies,
reached
out
to
ask
me
for
presentations
and
for
information
about
how
they
could
better
protect
the
immigrant
communities
that
they
served
and
a
lot
of
things
that
are
suggested
in
this
policy
in
terms
of
not
recording
information.
That
is
not
related
to
the
work
that
they're
doing.
AO
I
talk
to
health
centers.
I
talk
to
dta
to
all
these
different
agencies
and
the
policies
that
are
being
promoted
in
this
ordinance
mirror
the
kind
of
advice
that
I
gave
to
those
agencies
in
that
time,
and
we
are
still
in
that
time
of
increased
enforcement
and
a
very
hostile
climate
towards
immigrants,
and
so
it's
really
critical
that
that
these
stuff
be
taken
and
again.
AO
These
are
common
sense,
steps
and
they're
things
that
other
agencies
have
reached
out
and
they
wanted
to
proactively
do,
and
I
think
it's
important
that
bps
should
also
want
to
do
them.
But
if
the
if
this
ordinance
is
required,
which
I
think
has
been
shared
by
many
individuals
in
order
to
make
that
happen,
that
it's
really
important
that
it
be
supported.
The
only
other
thing
that
I
want
to
highlight,
because
I
think
there's
been
so
much
wonderful
testimony-
is
that
look
at
the
amount
of
effort
and
work
that
has
gone
on
to
highlight
this.
AO
One
small
piece
of
information
sharing
that
has
had
a
devastating
impact
on
communities,
and
so
I
do
think
the
overall
organs,
even
though
I'm
not
very
well
versed
in
sort
of
larger
surveillance
and
other
information
sharing
situations.
It's
really
important
that
there
is
public
discourse
and
oversight
and
transparency,
because
with
so
many
people
behind
this
effort,
we're
still,
as
everyone
shared
multiple
years
into
trying
to
create
something
that
is
protective
and
supportive
of
the
community.
AO
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
very
little
piece
to
this
this
afternoon,
a
very
strong
testimony
and
again
lend
my
support
to
the
ordinance
and
urge
the
council
to
adopt
the
ordinance.
Thank
you.
V
Thank
you.
Next,
we
have
nicole,
and
I
believe
nicole,
is
our
last
live
sign
up.
If
I
missed
anyone,
please
raise
your
blue
hand
and
otherwise,
mr
vice
chair
after
nicole,
I
believe
we're
ready
to
go
to
the
video.
U
Very
good,
and
then
after
nicole
will
give
the
lead
sponsor
my
colleagues
just
a
moment
if
they
want
to
give
a
final
comment
and
then
we'll
shift
to
the
video,
in
which
case
we'll
adjourn
immediately
after.
AP
U
AP
Thank
you
city
councilors.
My
name
is
nicole
elliott,
I'm
an
educator
in
roxbury
and
I'm
a
member
of
the
btu
for
many
years.
There's
been
an
ongoing
discussion
and
debate
regarding
the
role
of
the
police
in
our
community.
While
I
believe
that
police
play
an
important
role,
I
also
know
that
there
has
been
harm
and
mistrust
from
the
actions
of
the
police.
AP
Boston.
School
police
has
played
a
role
in
reporting
and
sharing
information
with
the
boston
police
department,
which
leads
to
the
criminalization
of
our
youth.
For
what
is
typical
teenage
behavior,
we
need
the
surveillance
oversight
ordinance
to
be
adopted
now,
because
we
need
to
stop
the
criminalization
of
our
youth,
particularly
our
black
and
brown
youth,
and
stop
the
school
to
prison
pipeline.
I'm
an
educator
in
the
sheltered
english
immersion
strand
in
bps,
my
students
are
immigrants
or
children
of
immigrants.
AP
We
need
this
ordinance
to
be
adopted
now
to
keep
our
schools
safe
for
my
students
and
their
families.
One
of
the
most
crucial
elements
of
student
success
is
family
engagement.
In
order
to
engage
families
in
our
schools,
our
families
need
to
trust
the
schools.
Our
schools
need
to
be
a
safe
place
where
families
can
trust
that
information
that
will
be
harmful
to
them,
it
may
result
in
legal
consequences
will
not
be
shared.
AP
I
was
on
a
teacher
website
recently,
where
a
privileged
teacher
was
railing
about
how
we
don't
need
post-election
resources
for
our
students,
because
they
don't
pay
attention
to
it.
That
is
not
true
for
my
students,
my
students
don't
live
in
that
privileged
position.
They
know
what
it
means
or
could
mean
to
them.
If
certain
people
are
elected
or
policies
passed
speaking
of
elections
this
week
we
celebrated
and
continue
to
fight
for
our
democratic
institutions.
AP
The
ordinance
gives
residents
a
voice
in
the
decision-making
process.
The
voice
of
the
communities
affected
by
surveillance
need
to
have
a
voice
in
the
decision-making.
This
is
the
democratic
way.
Please
support
the
surveillance
oversight
ordinance
to
ensure
the
safety
and
success
of
our
students
and
communities.
Thank
you.
V
This
is
miss
mitter
burke,
I'm
letting
you
in
now.
AQ
Okay,
great,
thank
you
I'll,
be
quick.
My
name
is
emilia
mitterberg.
I
live
in
jamaica
plain
and
I
teach
first
grade
sci
to
english
language
learners
in
the
boston,
public
schools
in
roxbury.
AQ
AQ
AQ
AQ
So
I
know
the
city
and
the
school
district
is
very
committed
right
now
to
more
talk
about
equity
and
about
racial
justice,
and
I
just
want
to
put
forth
that
this
is
exactly
what
we
need
to
pass
in
order
to
really
make
that
commitment,
real
and
especially
this
week
of
all
weeks.
I
think
we
can
deeply
appreciate
how
important
the
increased
transparency
and
democratic
oversight
this
would
bring
as
we're
celebrating
this
american
democracy
this
week.
AQ
I
think
we
need
more
input
and
more
transparency
in
our
policies
and
as
a
teacher
in
boston,
public
schools.
I
need
this
kind
of
forward-thinking
policy
that
shows
our
immigrant
students
and
our
families
that
we
see
them
and
they
are
safe
and
they
are
welcome
and
we
will
do
everything
it
takes
for
them
to
be
able
to
just
focus
on
learning
how
to
be
a
person
how
to
be
a
reader
and
a
thinker
in
the
classroom.
So
thank
you
for
your
time
and
thank
you
for
putting
forth
this
policy.
U
Thank
you
very
much
and
that
will
conclude,
obviously
the
signed
in
and
in
person
or
on
video
testimony
do
any
of
my
colleagues,
I
see
lead
sponsor
counselor
kim
council
president
kim
jane
is
still
on.
You
want
to
give
a
final
comment
before
we
turn
it
over
to
the
video
and
we
close
out
duck
at
zero.
Six,
eight!
Four!
If
you
do
you
have
the
four
council
president.
C
C
Okay
certainly
want
to
thank
the
panelists
again,
I'm
filled
with
a
lot
of
emotion.
On
the
one
hand,
I'm
really
angry
about
some
of
the
real
cases
that
were
shared
in
terms
of
emails.
C
We
know
that
this
wouldn't
happen
anywhere
else
if
the
student
body
looked
different
and
it's
and
it's
shameful,
but
I'm
also
very
encouraged.
My
heart
is
very
full
just
hearing
the
advocacy
of
the
many
folks
on
this
zoom
call
today,
I'm
really
also
encouraged
by
the
suggested
language,
and
so
I'm
anxious
to
kind
of
get
into
that
suggested
language
during
our
next
session
on
this,
which
is
the
working
session
which
we
hope
to
schedule
very
very
soon.
C
So
thank
you
all
for
your
advocacy
on
this
issue
and
many
thanks
to
the
organizations
who
have
been
leading
the
way,
including
al
aclu,
mass
unafraid,
educators
and,
of
course,
sem.
So.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
mr
vice
chair.
U
M
Just
mr
chair
to
strongly
thank
everyone
for
sharing
their
public
testimony
today.
I
was
really
glad
to
hear
it
and
I
do
think
that
as
frustrated
as
we
are
by
this,
not
being
a
two-way
conversation
with
the
administration,
we'll
be
bringing
everything
that
folks
brought
today
into
that
next
working
session.
So
looking
forward
to
that-
and
I
just
really
want
to
thank
the
council
president
for
her
leadership
on
this
and
all
and
all
my
colleagues
thank
you.
U
Thank
you,
council
debark.
Obviously,
thanks
to
the
chair,
thanks
to
the
lead
sponsors
thanks
to
my
colleagues
for
attending
participating
thanks
for
the
panelist
and
thank
you
to
all
those
that
offered
public
testimony,
including
the
video
which
will
run,
which
will
include,
I
believe
it's
somewhere
in
the
city,
maybe
13
to
15
folks
offering
a
video
testimony
somewhere
in
the
vicinity
of
one
minute
and
a
half
to
two
minutes
each.
U
So
this
video
will
probably
be
somewhat
between
26
and
30
minutes
in
length
and
at
which
point
that
the
immediately
concluding
the
video
darkest
0684,
which
is
the
docket
that
we're
discussing
right
now,
it's
a
hearing
regarding
an
ordinance
on
surveillance
oversight
in
information
sharing,
will
be
adjourned
and
plans
to
obviously
talk
to
the
chair
about
a
working
session.
So
with
that,
I
appreciate
everyone's
participation.
Thank
you
to
michelle
and
candace,
and
you
can
roll
the
video
and,
as
mentioned
at
the
conclusion
of
the
video,
there
will
be
no
additional
testimony.
U
The
meeting
will
immediately
conclude
in
docket
0684
and
the
committee
and
government
operations
will
be
adjourned.
Thank
you,
michelle
and
candace
and
roll
the
film.
AR
AR
AR
It
is
seen
all
around
us
that
the
youth
is
being
mistreated
and
misjudged
by
higher
authority,
and
while
our
strengths
are
being
undermined,
our
weak
points
and
flaws
are
being
showcased
and
exaggerated.
Police
brutality
and
overuse
of
power
is
just
beginning
to
be
brought
into
the
eyes
of
the
public,
but
it
has
gone
on
for
too
long.
Children
and
teenagers
are
being
labeled
as
criminals
and
delinquents
and
are
burdened
with
these
labels
forever,
and
it
is
all
because
we
are
viewed
as
less
by
authority
figures.
AR
We
need
community
control
over
the
police,
because
so
many
police
officers
overuse
their
positions
of
power
in
order
to
be
able
to
control
everything
around
them.
Our
communities
are
invested
with
prying
eyes,
just
searching
for
a
reason
to
write
us
up,
knowing
that
the
police
would
be
able
to
purchase
drones
in
order
to
surveil
us
without
our
consent
disturbs
me
to
a
whole
other
level
with
normal
police
cars
at
least
we
can
see
it
coming,
but
with
drones,
it's
like
we're
being
watched
from
the
shadows.
AR
We
can
no
longer
walk
the
streets
or
even
the
hallways
at
school,
in
peace
as
we
live
in
fear
of
the
future
solely
because
of
the
color
of
our
skin.
We
need
to
feel
safe
in
our
everyday
lives.
The
harshness
by
which
we
are
being
treated
has
to
stop
before
more.
Are
affected,
thank
you.
Katie
martinez,.
H
H
There
is
even
proof
that,
because
of
boston,
school
police,
playing
a
role
in
reporting
and
sharing
information
serving
as
an
easy
access
link
between
schools
and
law
enforcement,
young
people
are
being
criminalized
for
normal
teenage
behavior.
We
have
seen
the
lack
of
transparency
even
in
knowing
how
the
police
operate.
H
We
need
the
surveillance
oversight
ordinance
to
be
adopted
now,
because
this
is
something
a
normal
person
can't
fix
on
their
own.
I
have
bore,
witnessed
the
many
people
being
subjected
to
the
police's
neglect
and
racist
natures.
I
want
communities,
and
the
people
around
me
to
feel
safe
and
at
ease
school
should
be
a
place
where
people
can
express
themselves
and
make
new
connections
without
fear.
We
need
community
control
over
the
police,
because
many
people
have
already
lost
trust
in
the
police
for
valid
reasons.
H
Boston,
school,
police
and
boston
police
department
have
been
complicit
and
happened
with
incarcerated
and
deported
for
no
reason.
Time
and
time
again,
the
harmless
surveillance
fall
hardest
on
immigrants,
activists
and
other
minorities
the
same
communities
they
should
be
fighting
to
protect.
This
ordinance
serves
those
communities
in
all
communities
by
giving
residents
a
voice
in
the
decision-making
process.
AS
AS
We
need
to
adopt
the
surveillance
oversight
ordinance
right
now,
because,
when
the
boston
police
access,
a
link
between
the
school
and
law
enforcement,
young
people
end
up
criminalized
for
normal
teenage
behavior,
and
this
mainly
ends
up
affecting
people
of
color
and
regardless
of
your
race
and
skin
color.
Everyone
has
the
right
to
feel
safe.
H
City
councillors
for
years,
young
people,
families,
community,
organizers,
educators
and
lawyers
have
been
constantly
trying
to
get
answers
to
important
questions
about
the
role
of
the
police
in
the
community.
There's
been
a
lot
of
harm
and
mistrust
resulting
from
the
actions
of
the
police,
and
this
mistrust
is
directly
a
result
of
the
boston
school
police's
role
in
reporting
and
sharing
information,
which
is
serving
as
an
easy
access
link
between
the
schools
and
law
enforcement.
H
This
is
only
promoting
the
criminalization
of
teens,
who
are
simply
partaking
in
normal
everyday
teenage
behavior,
which
is
now
seen
as
quote-unquote
thug
behavior.
We
have
seen
the
lack
of
transparency
in
the
system,
even
knowing
how
the
police
operate,
and
this
is
exactly
why
we
need
the
surveillance
oversight
ordinance
to
be
to
be
adopted.
Now.
Everything
that's
happening
is
only
normalizing
encouraging
racial
profiling
to
occur
even
more
than
it
already
has.
H
I
have
been
witness
to
many
people
in
my
life
that
I
know
that
are
constantly
unrest
by
the
information
or
even
lack
of
information
of
a
police
database.
They
worry
about
their
families
and
their
futures.
Even
I
worry
about
my
family
and
my
future.
My
vision
is
for
schools
in
my
community
to
be
a
safe
environment
and
a
comfortable
space
for
everyone,
regardless
of
their
status
and
their
identities.
School
is
a
place
to
learn,
not
a
place
to
fret
and
worry
it's
a
place
to
think
about
your
future,
not
your
lack
of
one.
H
We
need
community
control
over
the
police
now,
because
many
people
have
already
lost
their
trust
in
the
in
the
police
and
what
the
police
are
doing
in
this
case
is
only
proving
the
fears
of
the
people
right,
boston,
boston,
school
police
and
the
boston
police
department
have
been
complicit
in
having
the
youth
incarcerated
and
deported
for
absolutely
for
absolutely
no
reason
other
than
being
youth
of
color
time
and
time
again.
This
is
harming
this.
H
This
is
harming
only
the
immigrants
activists
and
people
of
color
the
same
communities
whose
health
and
safety
boston
should
be
fighting
to
protect.
This
ordinance
serves
those
communities
and
all
communities
by
giving
residents
a
voice
in
the
decision-making
process
process
that
decides
which
surveillance
technology
technologies
will
be
used
when
and
how
the
communities
that
are
being
used,
that
the
communities
that
are
being
used
and
constantly
have
to
live
subject
to
surveillance
technologies
should
be
the
ones
to
decide
whether
or
not
they
are
necessary
and
what
rules
should
be
in
place
for
their
use.
H
AT
AT
This
ordinance
establishes
oversight
and
accountability
mechanisms
over
current
surveillance
practices
and
future
equation
acquisitions
of
surveillance
technologies
in
the
city
of
boston.
The
ordinance
also
sets
rules
that
preserve
students,
privacy
and
prohibits
unnecessary
information,
sharing
between
boston,
public
schools,
boston,
boston,
school
police
and
boston,
boston,
police
department
and
federal
agencies
like
ice.
The
city
of
boston
does
not
have
any
current
mechanism
by
which
residents
can
have
a
voice
regarding
the
surveillance
equipment
that
is
used
to
control
the
controlled
and
that
police
them.
The
ordinance
before
the
city
council
provides
this
crucial
institutional
reform.
AT
AT
Unfortunately,
the
communities
that
have
to
live
subject
to
surveillance
technologies
should
be
the
ones
that
decide
whether
it's
necessary
and
what
rules
should
be
in
place
for
their
use.
The
community
should
be
in
control,
not
a
computer,
a
corporation
that
profits
from
surveillance
and
an
executive
agency
working
in
seeker
or
anyone
else.
AT
Second,
this
ordinance
provides
important
protections
to
all
students
in
boston.
Public
schools
especially
protects
our
immigrant
students,
boston,
public
schools
must
be
a
safe
and
welcoming
place
for
all
our
students,
no
matter
their
immigration
status
as
students
in
bps.
I
don't
want
to
go
to
school
in
fear.
To
protect
our
students,
we
need
to
limit
the
kinds
of
information,
boston,
public
schools
and
boston
school
police
share
with
the
boston
police
department,
which
then
share
information
with
ice.
AT
H
H
For
too
long
we
have
largely
accepted
that
the
police,
department
and
agencies
will
be
funded
to
buy
weapons
and
surveillance
equipment
at
the
expense
of
what
our
community
really
needs,
and
for
decades
that
has
been
the
case,
but
this
must
stop
now.
My
vision
for
our
communities
is
to
have
a
safe
environment
for
future
generations,
and
this
present
one
too
this
generation
doesn't
want
future
generations
to
go
through
go
to
school
with
a
fear
heck.
H
I
don't
want
to
go
to
school,
knowing
that
I
might
get
watched
or
or
even
have
to
be
terrified
of
other.
Knowing
about
my
private
information,
I
might
be
young,
but
I
need
my
privacy
and
others
too.
Who
would
I
like
to
have
their
privacy
and
for
that
to
be
stripped
away?
Imagine
being
watched
when
you're
trying
to
take
out
the
trash
or
imagine
going
going
back
to
school
or
having
your
child
go
to
school,
having
the
fear
of
their
private
information
known
between
people.
H
They
don't
know
time
and
again
the
arms
of
surveillance
fall
hardest
on
immigrants,
activists
and
people
of
color
the
same
communities
whose
health
and
safety
boston
should
be
fighting
to
protect.
This
ordinance
serves
those
communities
and
all
communities
by
giving
residents
a
voice
in
the
decision
making.
H
Did
you
know
that
the
boston
police
and
the
police
department
have
been
complicit
in
having
used,
incarcerated
and
departed
for
no
reason
other
than
being
a
youth
of
color,
currently
police
practice
and
fail
to
create
a
safe
learning
environment
for
our
students.
Current
data
shows
that
over
130
reports
from
boston
public
schools
have
landed
in
isis
hands
due
to
inefficient
potential
protections
at
the
city
level.
We
cannot
wait
until
another
student
is
deported
today
to
take
decisive
action
to
protect
our
youth.
Thank
you.
AU
An
example
of
this
would
be
police
buying,
drones
and
surveilling
people
without
their
consent,
but
I
don't
just
want
to
talk
about
other
communities.
I
want
to
talk
about
mine.
I
live
in
a
neighborhood
with
mostly
minorities
and
have
noticed
that
there
are
way
more
police
cars
where
I
live
than
in
other
neighborhoods.
AU
I
walk
home
off
the
bus
every
day
with
one
of
my
friends
and
several
times
he
has
told
me,
he's
been
stopped
by
the
police
just
for
walking
instead
of
feeling
safe
when
police
are
around.
I
feel
scared
one
wrong
move
and
I
could
be
a
goner
is
this:
what
police
are
trying
to
do?
Use
fear
as
a
weapon?
AU
AU
I've
even
stopped
hanging
out
with
my
friends
outside,
because
police
might
think
that
we're
doing
something
suspicious
think
of
what
outcome
you
want,
a
community
that
is
terrified
of
the
police
or
a
community
that
feels
safe.
This
is
outrageous
and
has
been
going
on
for
far
too
long.
It
needs
to
change,
and
this
is
one
step
in
the
right
direction
of
community
control.
AV
City
councillors
for
years,
young
people,
families,
community
organizations,
educators
and
lawyers
have
been
trying
to
get
answers
to
important
questions
about
the
role
of
the
police
and
the
community.
There
has
been
a
lot
of
harm
and
mistrust
resulting
from
the
actions
of
them.
There
is
even
proof
that,
because
of
that
boston,
school
police
play
a
role
in
reporting
and
information
sharing,
serving
as
an
easy
access
link
between
the
schools
and
law
enforcement.
AV
Young
people
are
being
criminalized
for
normal,
everyday
teen
behavior.
We
have
seen
the
lack
of
transparency
even
in
knowing
how
the
police
operate.
I
imagine
the
schools
and
my
community
to
be
a
safe
environment
for
everyone.
No
one
should
live
in
fear
the
police.
We
need
the
surveillance
oversight
ordinance
to
be
adopted
now,
because
it
will
help
communities
to
feel
safe
in
their
own
home
in
schools.
AV
Immigrant
kids
and
kids
of
color
are
scared
to
go
to
school
because
they
fear
that
a
police
officer
will
accuse
them
of
something
just
because
of
how
they
look.
People
should
not
be
a
target
to
secret
surveillance
by
the
police.
It
is
wrong
and
immoral
minorities
communities
contribute
a
lot
to
the
state
and
should
never
have
to
be
scared
of
the
ones
who
are
supposed
to
protect
them.
AV
AV
Boston,
school
police
and
the
boston
police
department
have
been
complicit
in
having
youth
incarcerated
and
deported
for
no
reason
other
than
being
youth
of
color.
Time
and
again,
the
harms
of
surveillance
fall
hardest
on
immigrants,
activists
and
people
of
color,
the
same
communities
whose
health
and
safety
boston
should
be
fighting
for.
AW
City
councillors,
my
name
is
lehigh
oscar.
I
come
to
you
today
to
question
the
integrity
of
the
police
department
when
it
comes
to
police
surveillance
within
the
community
due
to
lack
of
rules
and
regulations,
as
well
as
the
lack
of
transparency
in
publicizing
the
modes
of
surveillance
as
well
as
the
data.
AW
AW
It
is
imperative
that
the
community
have
control
in
all
policies
and
practices
that
relate
or
may
impact
them
any
way
shape
or
form.
Thus,
if
this
ordinance
is
adopted,
it
will
provide
greater
transparency
so
that
these
in
all
communities
will
have
a
platform
to
assert
their
stance
in
the
decision
process
for
their
surveilling
city
councillors.
I
urge
that
you
adopt
this
ordinance
with
haste
and
with
the
understanding
that
it
will
greatly
benefit
the
communities
you
serve
with
kind
regards.
AW
I
City
councilors
for
years,
young
people,
families,
community
organizations,
educators
and
lawyers
have
been
trying
to
get
answers
to
important
questions
about
the
role
of
police
in
the
community.
There
has
been
a
lot
of
harm
and
mistrust
resulting
from
the
actions
of
police.
There's
even
proof
that,
because
of
that
boston,
school
police
play
a
role
in
reporting
an
information
sharing,
serving
as
an
easy
access
link
between
the
schools
and
law
enforcement.
Young
people
are
being
criminalized
for
normal,
everyday
teen
behavior.
We
have
seen
the
lack
of
transparency
even
in
knowing
how
the
police
operate.
I
We
need
the
surveillance
oversight
ordinance
to
be
adopted
now,
because
it
is
not
fair
for
others
to
be
mistreated,
for
something
others
are
not
affected
by.
I
have
witnessed
boston,
school
police
in
boston,
public
schools,
despite
there
not
being
a
need
for
officers
in
schools.
My
vision
for
our
communities
is
to
be
united
and
comfortable
with
one
another.
I
imagine
schools
and
my
community
to
be
a
safe
and
comfortable
space
for
everyone,
regardless
of
their
status
and
identities.
School
is
a
place
to
learn,
not
a
place
to
fret
and
worry.
I
It
is
a
place
to
think
of
your
future,
not
your
lack
of
one.
We
need
community
control
over
the
police
because
it
is
not
fair.
Otherwise,
it
is
an
amendment
and
a
right
to
treat
people
fairly.
Yet
this
system
is
only
an
excuse
to
racially
profile,
kids,
who
are
just
trying
to
get
an
education.
It
is
not
freedom
and
is
merely
just
holding
many
of
us
back
boston,
school
police
and
the
boston
police
department
have
been
in
complicit
and
having
youth
incarcerated
and
deported
for
no
other
reason
than
being
youth
of
color.
I
Time
and
time
again,
the
harms
of
surveillance
fall
hardest
on
immigrants,
activists
and
people
of
color,
the
same
communities
whose
health
and
safety
boston
should
be
fighting
to
protect.
This
ordinance
serves
the
serves
those
communities
and
all
communities
by
giving
residents
a
voice
in
the
decision-making
process.
That
decides
how
surveillance
technologies
will
be
used
when
and
how
the
communities
that
have
to
live
subject
to
surveillance
technology
should
be
the
ones
to
decide
whether
they're
necessary
and
what
rules
should
be
put
in
place
for
their
use.
I
J
Hello,
my
name
is
kimberly
and
I
am
speaking
in
support
of
the
ordinance
of
surveillance
oversight
and
information
sharing
presented
by
council
president
jamie
and
counselors
wu
and
rodro.
This
ordinance
establishes
oversight
and
accountability
mechanisms
over
current
surveillance
practices
and
future
acquisition
of
surveillance
technologies
in
the
city
of
boston.
J
This
is
a
national
conversation
that
involves
not
only
current
policing
practices,
but
also
the
surveillance
technologies
that
are
used
by
police
departments
and
agencies,
I'm
a
senior
at
boston,
latin
school
and
an
intern
with
city
life,
ida
urbana.
As
a
young
person
engaged
in
my
community.
I
live
in
close
proximity
to
the
hurt
that
my
people
live
through
every
day,
whether
that
be
through
housing
or
racial
injustice.
J
No
one
takes
into
account
the
negative
effects
these
stressful
situations
could
have
on
students
of
the
bps
district.
As
a
daughter
of
immigrants,
I
empathize
and
identified
with
the
fears
of
my
classmates
and
co-workers,
who
are
immigrants
and
sons
and
daughters
of
immigrants
as
well
time
and
again,
the
harms
of
surveillance
fall
hardest
on
the
immigrants
and
activists
and
people
of
color
the
same
communities
whose
health
and
safety
boston
should
be
fighting
to
protect.
J
This
ordinance
serves
those
communities
and
all
the
communities
by
giving
residents
a
voice
in
the
decision-making
process
that
decides
which
surveillance
technologies
will
be
used
when
and
how,
with
this
law,
boston
will
set
a
new
course
using
a
tried
and
tested
framework
based
on
inclusivity
and
community
consent.
Thank
you.
AX
AX
There's
even
proof
that,
because
the
boston
school
police
play
a
role
in
reporting
and
information
sharing,
serving
as
an
easy
access
link
between
the
schools
and
law
enforcement,
young
people,
normal
everyday
teen
behavior,
we
have
seen
the
lack
of
transparency
even
knowing
how
the
police
operate.
I
have
witnessed
boston,
school
police
behaving
in
proper
manners
when
handling
situations
in
our
schools.
We
as
a
community
have
lost
our
faith
in
our
police.
AX
This
ordinance
serves
those
communities
in
all
communities
by
giving
residents
a
voice
in
the
decision-making
process.
That
decides
which
surveillance
technologies
will
be
used
when
and
how
the
communities
that
have
to
live
subject
to
the
surveillance
technology
should
be
the
ones
to
decide
whether
they're
necessary
and
what
rules
should
be
in
place
for
their
use.
AX
K
The
ordinance
also
sets
rules
that
preserve
students,
privacy
and
prohibit
unnecessary
information,
sharing
between
boston,
public
schools,
boston,
school
police,
boston,
police
department
and
the
federal
agencies
like
ice.
The
city
of
boston
does
not
have
any
current
mechanism
by
which
residents
can
have
a
voice
regarding
the
surveillance
equipment
that
is
used
to
control
and
police
them.
The
ordinance
before
the
city
council
provides
this
crucial
institutional
reform.
K
First,
an
ordinance
providing
accountability,
transparency
and
oversight
regarding
the
use
and
accusation
of
surveillance
technologies
and
surveillance.
Data
collected
by
the
city
of
boston,
its
agencies
and
its
public
officials
is
critically
important
in
the
city
of
boston
time
and
time
again.
Our
communities
are
living
in
fear
because
of
the
harms
of
surveillance
instead
of
feeling
protected
within
their
own
community.
K
Second,
this
ordinance
provides
important
protections
to
all
students
in
boston,
public
schools
and
especially
protects
our
immigrant
students.
Boston,
public
schools
must
be
a
safe
and
welcoming
place
for
all
students.
No
matter
their
immigration
status,
students
shouldn't
fear
going
to
school
will
result
in
their
information
being
shared
with
ice
in
boston.
Current
policy
and
practice
failed
to
create
a
safe
learning
environment
for
our
students.
Current
data
shows
that
over
130
reports
from
boston
public
schools
have
landed
in
isis
hands
due
to
insufficient
protection
at
the
city
level.
K
We
cannot
wait
until
another
student
is
deported
to
take
decisive
action
to
protect
our
youth
with
this
law.
Boston
will
set
a
new
course
using
a
tried
and
tested
framework
based
on
inclusivity
and
community
consent.
Over
a
dozen
cities
nationwide,
including
three
in
massachusetts,
have
already
benefited
from
the
transparency
and
accountability.
This
type
of
ordinance
brings.
AY
Dear
city
counselors,
my
name
is
catherine
assuncion.
I
live
in
dorchester,
I'm
a
formerly
undocumented
person
and
I
currently
serve
on
the
student
immigrant
movements
board.
I'm
in
full
support
of
the
ordinance
of
surveillance
oversight
and
information
sharing
presented
by
councillor
president
janie
and
counselors
wool
in
arroyo.
I
came
of
age
being
undocumented,
failed
paranoia.
AY
I
remember
my
dad
warily
checking
out
the
window
whenever
he
saw
blue
police
lights
and
I
remember
being
in
conversations
with
sim
and
finding
out
that
immigrant
students
in
boston
were
getting
picked
up
by
ice
inside
their
schools.
This
fueled
my
paranoia
and
we
weren't
wrong
for
feeling
this
way
the
reason
black
lives
matter.
Protests
have
once
again
highlighted
the
racism
in
our
police
department.
AY
U
U
Very
good,
so
I
appreciate
it
again,
everyone's
time
and
attention,
and
obviously,
we've
had
a
tremendous
amount
of
testimony
and
my
senses.
After
I
talked
to
the
chair,
we
will
look
towards
a
working
session
with
the
lead
sponsors,
the
chair
and
the
lead
sponsors.
So
with
that
stuck
docket0684,
the
committee
on
government
operations
is
adjourned.
Thank
you,
michelle.
Thank
you,
candace,
for
your
great
work,
appreciate
it
to
my
colleagues
as
well.