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From YouTube: Committee on Government Operations on September 14, 2020
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Docket #0225 - Ordinance to create the Special Commission on Ending Family Homelessness
A
C
C
A
I
know
we
have
danielle
larry,
kate
christie.
I
think
I
said
danielle
I'll
look
at
the
guest
list.
I
mean
they
can
all
come
in
there
they're
all
partners
in
this
work.
I
don't
think
any
of
them
are
going
to
zoom
bomb
us.
A
G
A
I'm
just
gonna
wait:
oh
hi
felicia,
I'm
just
waiting
for
chair
edwards
to
join
us
and
we'll
get
started.
E
A
A
A
And
then
candace,
I
see
counselor
block
up
this
year's.
A
C
Counselor,
whenever
counselor
edwards
arrives,
we
are
live
streaming
and
recording
so
we'll
be
all
set
to
go.
C
G
A
A
J
Hi,
I
my
apologies
to
all
for
being
a
delayed.
Just
was
getting
the
final
order
and
we
will
start
right
away.
I
have
in
attendance
counselor
the
sponsor
counselor
sabe
george.
I
have
council,
ed
flynn,
counselor,
julia
mejia
and
counselor
bach
and
counselor
flaherty.
Is
that
everyone?
J
Yes?
Okay,
then?
So,
considering
I'm
running
a
little
bit
late
night
again
apologize
to
everyone,
I
assume
every
all
the
panelists
are
here
yep
very
well,
so
I'm
gonna
do
an
introduction
and
then
I
will
turn
it
over
to
the
lead,
sponsor
or
allow
for
everyone
to
say
some
brief
introductions,
and
then
I
will
turn
it
over
to
the
lead.
Sponsor.
Excuse
me
all
right.
Everyone
formally
starting
today's
hearing
on
family
homeland
homelessness
on
docket0225.
J
This
is
the
committee
on
government
operations
and
today
is
september
14th.
It
is
4
p.m,
and
this
is
to
create.
This
is
about
an
ordinance
to
create
a
special
commission
on
ending
family
homelessness
is
sponsored
by
a
counselor,
stabby
george,
it's
it's
this!
We
are
having
this
in
government
ops
today,
because
it's
a
specific
ordinance
that
is
required
to
pass
the
city
council
then
ultimately
would
need
to
be
signed
by
the
mayor
as
well.
J
So
together
we
would
have
to
commit
create
this
commission,
in
accordance
with
governor
baker's
executive
order,
in
order
to
balance
safety
and
to
assure
that
we
are
also
able
to
conduct
our
business.
We
are
having
this
hearing
on
zoom.
J
You
can
watch
this
hearing
via
live
stream
at
boston.gov
city
dash,
council
dash
tv,
or
it
will
be
later
broadcast
on
comcast,
8,
rcn82
and
verizon
1964.
for
public
testimony.
You
can
send
written
testimony
to
ccc.go
at
boston.gov
again
this
would
a
commission
would
establish
a
but
this
here.
This
ordinance
would
establish
a
commission
to
develop
an
actionable
and
measurable
plan
to
end
family
homelessness
in
the
city
of
boston.
The
ordinance
provides
for
the
membership
of
the
commission
and
identifies
the
authorities
and
responsibilities
of
the
commission.
J
Members
of
the
commissions
will
serve
without
compensation
and
we
have
sheila
dillon
chief
of
housing
for
the
city
of
boston.
Director
of
neighbor
dnd
is
with
us
today
from
the
administration,
along
with
courtney,
trudell
and
dominique
williams
from
the
department
of
dnd.
J
We
also
have
danielle
ferrier
ceo
of
heading
home,
larry
simmons,
president
of
family
aid,
boston,
christy,
staples
vice
president
of
mind,
the
gap
united
way
of
massachusetts
bay
and
merrimack
valley,
kate,
barad,
president
and
ceo
of
verizon
horizons,
her
homeless,
children,
felicia
smith,
executive
director,
sojourner
house.
I
believe
mosik
kopian
also
is
coming
or
will
be
here
for
higher
ground
boston
and
christine
dixon
executive
director
of
project
hope.
J
A
Thank
you,
ma'am,
chair
I'll,
actually
make
extended
comments
if
that's
okay,
introducing
the
panel
and
then
comments
from
colleagues
and
then
we'll
get
right
into
the
presentation
very
well.
Thank
you
again,
madam
chair.
This
afternoon's
hearing
will
cover
the
ordinance
I
originally
filed
last
year
to
create
a
special
commission
to
end
family
homelessness
in
the
city
of
boston.
The
idea
for
this
commission
emerged
from
my
family
shelter
provider
round
table
almost
five
years
ago
or
about
four
and
a
half.
Years
ago.
A
I
created
this
round
table
as
a
part
of
my
work
as
chair
of
the
then
newly
created
committee
on
homelessness,
mental
health
and
recovery.
I
created
this
because
we
knew
that
we
had
far
too
many
homeless,
individuals
and
families
for
a
city
as
resource
rich
as
ours.
From
being
a
teacher,
I
knew
that
we
had
homeless
students
in
the
boston
public
schools,
but
it
was
through
the
work
of
the
committee
on
homelessness,
mental
health
and
recovery
that
we
discovered
there
were
thousands
of
homeless,
boston,
public
school
students.
A
We
now
know
that
there
are
approximately
5
000
students
experiencing
homelessness
in
bps.
That
number
is
five
thousand
we've
had.
So
many
homeless,
students
and
families,
because
for
decades
the
issue
of
family
homelessness
has
been
ignored
to
the
public.
It
doesn't
look
the
same
as
homeless
individuals
on
the
street.
There
are
far
fewer
resources
if
available,
statewide,
to
support
families
experiencing
homelessness
and
not
enough
resources
to
move
them
into
stable
housing
or
to
prevent
them
from
becoming
unhoused.
A
Today,
you'll
hear
from
several
individuals
who
are
working
on
the
ground
every
day
to
provide
resources
to
our
most
vulnerable
families,
who
have
been
through
too
much.
These
individuals
have
been
active
participants
in
the
roundtable
and
have
shaped
my
office
policy
agenda
to
tackle
homelessness
in
our
first
panel,
you'll
hear
from
christy
staples
vice
president
of
mind,
the
gap
at
the
united
way,
danielle
ferreira,
ceo
of
heading
home,
larry,
siemens,
president
of
family
aid,
boston
and
kate,
morand,
president
and
ceo
of
horizons
for
homeless
children.
A
Christie
has
over
15
years
experience
and
in
health
and
housing
policy,
including
previously
being
at
the
corporation
for
supportive
housing
csh
and
serving
as
the
mass
on
the
mass
equity
task
force.
Christie
has
been
a
strong
and
clear
advocate
for
every
level
of
government
to
be
working
together
in
real
partnership
with
providers
on
the
ground
and
families
themselves
to
create
programs
that
get
to
the
root
causes
of
homelessness.
A
A
Larry
has
more
than
35
years
experience,
including
working
at
pine
street
inn.
Family
aid
is
the
longest
serving
family,
shelter
provider
in
greater
boston
and
the
city's
partner,
with
the
leading
the
way
home
program,
a
section
8
voucher
initiative,
which
will
ultimately
move
500
families
into
stable,
permanent
housing.
Larry
has
launched
homelessness
prevention
programs
at
family
aid
with
bps
and
boston
children's
hospital.
A
Horizons
provides
high
quality
early
education
opportunities
for
play
in
comprehensive
family
support
services
under
kate's
leadership.
Horizons
will
be
opening
a
brand
new
center
in
roxbury
designed
to
support
the
health
and
well-being
of
the
city's
homeless
families
by
providing
on-site
early
education
programs,
as
well
as
access
to
a
variety
of
social
services
to
help
our
parents
navigate
the
many
complexities
of
homelessness.
A
In
the
second
panel,
we'll
also
hear
from
mosaic
pobian
cobian,
executive
director
of
higher
ground
boston
and
christine
dixon
executive
director
of
project
hope
they
will
speak
to
the
work
of
the
family-led
stability
pilot.
This
pilot
program
is
one
that
I
helped
create
and
is
in
partnership
between
the
boston,
public
schools,
dnd
boston,
housing
authority,
dsni,
higher
ground
project
hope
and
a
few
other
leadership.
Other
partners
partners
under
the
leadership
of
mayor
walsh.
This
pilot
works
to
identify
our
students
who
are
homeless
and
are
housing,
insecure
and
a
handful
of
boston,
public
schools.
A
It
is
a
tremendous
effort
that
mosaic
and
christine
are
spearheading,
and
we
should
have
this
program
expanded
to
every
bps
school.
They
will
be
be
followed
by
felicia
smith
executive
director
of
the
sojourner
house.
Felice
felicia
has
been
working
in
the
human
services
field
in
education
for
35
years.
Sojourner
house
was
the
first
family,
shelter
in
boston
to
house
both
male
and
female
parents,
as
well
as
children
of
all
ages,
keeping
our
homeless
families
together
instead
of
separating
them
and
destabilizing
the
family
further.
It
is
also
one
of
the
few
handicap
accessible
shelters
in
massachusetts.
A
Finally,
we'll
hear
from
our
critical
and
key
partners
at
d
d,
including
chief
dylan
courtney,
trudell
and
dominique
williams,
many
d
d
staff
have
have
been
incredible
partners
in
the
round
table
and
I
am
grateful
for
their
continued
support
and
work
with
us
to
my
colleagues
on
the
council.
These
are
the
experts
in
the
field.
They
know
the
families
and
their
struggles.
A
They
know
the
services
and
the
supports
our
families
need
to
get
back
on
their
feet,
so
that
homelessness
is
at
most
a
brief
and
one-time
experience
for
the
family.
They've
been
doing
this
work
for
decades
and
have
brought
their
families
to
the
table
with
us
to
plan
this
work
and
create
this
commission
that
we're
looking
at
today.
I
ask
that
we
give
them
our
attention
so
that
we
are
all.
We
all
deeply
understand
the
scope
and
intensity
of
family
homelessness
in
the
city
of
boston.
A
I
know
that
there
will
be
some
text
amendments
that
we
will
need
to
make,
but
I
hope
we'll
be
ready
to
move
forward
and
create
this
special
commission
soon
and
we'll
have
the
full
support
of
the
council
to
do
so.
We
can
and
we
will
work
to
end
family
homelessness
here
in
the
city
of
boston,
with
that,
I
turn
it
over
to
my
colleagues
for
opening
statements
and
then
to
christy
to
lead
our
first
panel.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
J
You
very
much
councillor
ed
flynn,.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councillor,
edwards,
for
sponsoring
this
ordinance.
Thank
you,
council
of
councillor,
savage
george
for
sponsoring
this
and
council
edwards
for
sharing
this
important
hearing.
B
Having
actionable
plans
that
can
help
us
and
family
homelessness
in
boston
is
something
I
definitely
support,
and
I
think,
having
a
special
commission
where
we
can
come
together,
coordinate
plans
and
come
up
with
some
ideas
is
a
great
way
to
do
that.
I
I
will
definitely
support
counselor
sabi
george's
plan
having
stable
housing
is
critical
to
our
families
and
children
and,
as
we
continue
to
face
a
housing
crisis
in
boston
and
with
the
ongoing
pandemic,
impacting
our
economy
in
employment,
we
might
see
more
fear.
We
will
see
more
families
facing
homelessness
later
on.
B
So
it's
important
that
we
take
steps
now
to
end
family
homelessness.
I'm
here
to
learn
more
about
this
and
what
the
special
commission
will
look
like.
I
look
forward
to
the
discussion
and
I
especially
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
panelists
for
all
of
their
work
on
this
important
issue
for
so
many
years.
Thank
you.
Counselor
sabi
george.
K
Come
to
me,
okay,
hello,
everyone
thank
you
to
the
chair
and
to
the
sponsors
for
calling
this
hearing
growing
up.
Sometimes
I
didn't
know
what
bed,
if
any,
I
was
gonna
wake
up
in,
because
we
bounced
around
from
place
to
place,
and
so
I
understand
that
this
is
an
issue
that
is
chronic
here
in
the
city
of
boston
and
continues
to
impact
so
many
families-
and
I
think
this
is
a
an
important
discussion
to
have
so
when
it
comes
to
families,
homelessness
and
housing
and
security.
K
H
Thank
you
so
much
madam
chair.
I
just
also
want
to
really
extend
my
thanks
to
counselor
sabi
george,
not
just
for
calling
this
hearing,
but
for
the
many
years
of
work.
She's
done
on
really
on
this
front
and
on
gathering
the
many
people
we're
going
to
hear
from
today
to
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we,
we
really
need
both
resources
and
coordination
for
our
families.
I
think
we
all
know
that
coordination
isn't
enough
when
the
resources
to
get
people
housed
aren't
there,
but
the
lack
of
coordination
can
really.
H
It
can
cause
us
to
miss
the
opportunities
to
get
people
housed
and
on
a
different
path.
So
I
think
it's
just
so
important
for
us
all
to
be
pulled
together
and
from
my
work
at
the
housing
authority.
Previously,
I
know
what
it
what
a
terrible
scourge
family
homelessness
is
in
our
commonwealth
every
day
and
so
just
really
grateful
to
the
maker
and
glad
to
be
here.
Thank
you
so
much.
J
Thank
you,
counselor
flaherty,.
I
Thank
you,
madame
trio,
for
for
cheering
and
hosting,
and
also
want
to
thank
my
colleague,
counselor
sabi
george,
for
putting
forth
this
ordinance
that
will
be
discussed
today.
Great
panel
of
of
experts,
counselor
sabi,
jose,
has
been
a
consistent
advocate
for
the
needs
of
homeless
families
in
the
city
and
her
idea
behind
a
commission
would
be
would
be
a
godsend
I
think
for
so
many
of
those
families.
I
So
I'd
like
to
thank
her
for
those
efforts
also,
you
know,
I
think,
often
about
the
study
abroad
and
talk
about
our
economic
strength
and
and
how
you
know
we're
an
opportunity
in
a
resource-rich
city,
but
the
fact
that,
not
only
here
in
boston
and
massachusetts,
we
have
as
many
homeless
families
that
we
do
is
extremely
disheartening.
I
So
I
understand
there's
no
simple
solution
to
addressing
the
crisis
and
there
isn't
one
grand
idea
that
will
solve
these
problems,
but
it
will
require
countless
hours
of
dedicated
work
to
find
the
mix
of
solutions
and
support
systems
to
make
meaningful
change
here,
and
I
think
that
you
know
counselors.
Obviously,
couple
counselors
abby
george's
idea
about
the
commission
in
ending
family
homelessness
would
would
have
the
ability
you
know
to
put
in
those
hours
dedicated
solely
to
to
meeting
school.
I
So
I
wholeheartedly
support
the
creation
of
this
commission
and
I'm
excited
to
listen
to
the
experts
in
the
panel
today
to
learn
more,
but
also
just
the
footnote
is
the
longest
serving
counselor.
You
know
I've
seen
a
lot
of
commissions
created
over
the
years
and
a
lot
of
them
forgotten
about
so
with
very
if
any
real
accountability.
I
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
putting
forth
given
thought
to
the
implementation
and
the
use
of
whether
they're
progress
reports-
or
you
know,
benchmarkers
or
metrics
of
some
sort
to
make
sure
that
we're
giving
this
commission
something
to
strive
for
and
also
something
to
be
held
accountable
to,
because
ending
homelessness
in
boston
is
a
is,
is,
is
a
goal
that
we
all
strive
for.
I
So
that's
just
my
two
cents
and
my
years
of
experience
so
look
forward
to
getting
to
the
testimony
look
forward
to
supporting
this
commission
and
hopefully
we'll
have
a
commission
here
that
will
make
a
huge
difference
in
the
lives
of
so
many
people.
So
thank
you.
J
A
Please,
council
chair
edwards,
I'd
just
like
to
note
that
counselor
breeden
has
counselor.
J
Council
braden,
if
you're
ready
for
a
quick
opening
very.
L
Quickly
very
quickly,
I
apologize
I'm
slightly
late,
just
want
to
commend
counselor
sabi
george,
for
this
incredible
initiative.
I
think
it's
really
essential
not
only
important
to
provide
homes
but
also
provide
support
services
for
many
of
our
families
who
are
struggling
with
homeless,
chronic
homelessness
and
persistent
challenges.
So
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
hear
the
panel
and
all
of
the
folks
who
are
going
to
participate
in
the
panels
this
afternoon
and
thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
J
J
She
said
we
heard
about
you
this
new
office,
and
we
want
to
know
what
you're
going
to
do
so
she's
been
there
that
was
in
2016,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
note
what
my
colleagues
have
all
said
about
her
dedication,
especially
with
this
issue
is,
is
pure
100
demonstration
that
she
wants
nothing
more
than
to
end
homelessness
and
and
to
make
sure
that
people
feel
welcome
and
have
a
place
to
live
in
boston,
and
I
wanted
to
also
note
I'm
excited
to
talk
about
this.
J
I'm
also
excited
to
talk
about
how
this
commission
is
going
to
not
only
be
dealing
with
finding
beds
and
finding
additional
shelters,
but
also
talking
about
the
upstream
activities
that
we
need
to
be
looking.
What
are
the
triggers
for
homelessness,
medical
bills
being
one
of
them?
The
lack
the
lack
of
job
income
and
job
growth
is
another
one
of
them,
but
also
looking
at
current
policies
and
making
sure
people
understand
right
to
councils.
J
Still
pending
in
our
state
house,
so
as
a
transfer
fee,
so
as
linkage
and
I
have
to
bring
those
up
because
those
are
resources
that
we
need
in
order
to
implement
a
lot
of
what
this
commission
is
going
to
recommend,
we
need
the
funding
and
we
need
also
the
the
community
to
grow
in
terms
of
advocates.
And
so
I
wanted
to
just
know
that
this
is
a
it's
a
whole
kind
of
economy
that
we're
setting
up
and
I'm
so
excited
about
that
conversation.
J
In
terms
of
the
next
steps
that
we
will
be
having
today
on
this
particular
on
this
particular
ordinance.
We're
going
to
have
we're
going
to
combine
panels
one
and
two
to
allow
for
them
to
speak
kind
of
all
in
one
and
then
the
counselors
will
have
any
questions
that
we
may
may
have.
I
know
that
mosey
coccobian
has
noted
that
he
has
to
leave
by
5
15.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
through
all
of
the
great
testimony
things
that
are
working.
J
Their
suggestions,
concerns
so
on
and
so
forth.
Panels,
one
and
two
some
questions
from
the
counselors
we'll
move
through
that
and
then
we'll
go
to
panels
three
and
four.
After
today's
hearing
we
will
then
have
a
working
session
to
specifically
work
out.
J
Any
suggestions
said
today:
look
at
the
public
testimony
counselor
asabi
george,
and
I
will
look
at
both
of
those
to
make
sure
that
we
have
all
perspectives
on
this
particular
ordinance
and
that
was
that'll
be
discussed
publicly
in
a
working
session
and
then,
if,
if
there's
consensus
and
excitement
and
we're
moving
forward,
I
will.
I
will
happily
bring
this
up
for
a
vote
for
my
colleagues
this
year.
J
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
counselor
sabi
george,
who
will
kick
off
the
first
panel.
A
Thank
you
again,
madam
chair,
and
I'd
like
to
just
pass
it
right
to
christy,
who
will
start
our
first
panel.
M
M
F
F
That's
led
by
d
d,
and
I
know
we've
been
doing
that
for
a
very
long
time,
and
I
imagine
if
we
think
back
during
that
those
cold
winters
as
we
walked
up
and
down
the
streets
of
boston,
did
any
of
us
actually
see
a
homeless
family,
it's
very
rare,
to
see
a
family
on
the
street
in
a
january
evening,
however,
the
data
from
the
most
recent
census
has
pointed
out
probably
the
most
pressing
social
issue
in
the
city
of
boston,
so
we
are
the
21st
most
populous
state
of
the
country,
and
yet,
according
to
the
data
from
last
year's
census,
we
have
the
third
highest
number
of
homeless
families
and
children
in
our
city,
the
third
highest.
F
I
think
the
challenge
before
us
is
that
those
families
make
up
some
of
the
poorest
families
in
the
city
of
boston,
predominantly
led
by
single
women
of
color,
and
there
are
so
many
homeless,
children
and
parents
that
tonight,
if
you
emptied
out
a
pine
street
inn
or
boston
children's
hospital,
you
can
fill
each
of
them
six
and
a
half
times
or
five
and
a
half
times
respectively.
F
That
is
how
many
homeless
children
are
living
in
our
city
right
now,
the
homeless
count
that
we've
all
participated
in
doesn't
take
into
account
the
children
that
counselor
sabe
george
had
just
mentioned.
The
5
000
homeless,
children
noted
by
the
boston
public
schools,
includes
those
children
who
are
doubled
up
living
illegally,
in
most
cases
with
other
families
to
make
ends
meet
because
the
driver
for
homeless
families,
unlike
adults,
where
the
issues
are
predominantly
mental,
health
and
substance,
use
disorders
for
homeless
families
and
children,
it's
sheer
poverty.
F
That's
the
economic
reality.
I
think
for
many
of
our
working
families.
The
numbers
are
the
numbers
from
the
census
that
we've
all
worked
on,
putting
together
as
part
of
the
national
federal
census,
and
the
issue
is
large
and
complicated,
and
what
we
want
to
share
with
you
today
is
not
only
this
scope
but
really
the
impacts,
especially
on
the
youngest
members
of
our
community,
and
then
what
we
hope
to
be.
Maybe
some
ways
that
the
council
and
the
commission
can
help.
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
kate
barron.
E
So
could
you
go
back
to
the
past
slide?
Thank
you
before
we
go
to
my
next
slide.
Hi,
I'm
kate
moran,
and
I
am
the
ceo
of
horizons
for
homeless
children,
and
it's
wonderful
to
be
here
today.
I
want
to
follow
up
on
larry's
number
of
2300
children
who
are
homeless.
There
are
four
things
that
I
can
tell
you
already
about
those
children
having
not
met
them.
E
I
can
also
tell
you
they
will
likely
be
in
shelter
for
18
months
as
that's
the
average
length
of
stay
in
a
boston
shelter
today.
Very
few
of
them
will
access
the
services
available
to
them
by
the
state
and
federal
government.
Why?
Because
they're
not
aware
they
exist,
or
it's
very
hard
and
time
consuming
to
gain
access
to
those
services
and
the
families
are
overwhelmed
with
just
trying
to
survive.
E
E
You
may
wonder
why
I
say
with
such
conviction
that
this
experience
will
have
lifelong
impacts,
and
it's
because
we
know
children
and
we
know
how
they
develop.
Now
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
Thank
you
for
those
children
under
six,
which
we
think
there
are
approximately
nine
hundred
sheltered
in
boston.
E
We
know
that
birth
to
age,
five
is
when
ninety
percent
of
human
brain,
when
ninety
percent
of
the
human
brain
is
developed
and
over
ten
years
ago,
the
center
on
the
developing
child
at
harvard
established
that
toxic
stress
of
homelessness,
materially
impacts,
brain
architecture.
It
weakens
the
brain
literally.
E
It
happens
because
at
this
age,
children
thrive
on
consistency,
routines
and
that
wonderful
feedback
loop
from
a
caring
parent
to
a
child
the
serve
in
return.
They
burp
you
smile,
they
laugh
you
coo
homelessness,
introduces
an
uncertainty,
a
chaos
and
a
lack
of
routines
that
create
fear
and
insecurity,
and
a
parent's
bandwidth
is
literally
so
taxed
with
getting
through
the
day
that
it's
almost
impossible
for
them
to
really
mentally
and
emotionally
be
present
for
their
child.
So
we
see
all
sorts
of
attachment
issues
develop.
E
We
see
it
every
day.
At
horizons,
when
children
arrive,
they
show
up
with
clear
signs
of
physical
and
developmental
delays
and
are
often
unable
to
self-regulate.
So
what
does
that
really?
Look
like?
It
looks
like
a
child
who's
two
and
a
half
years
old,
who
should
be
running
about
who
will
come
into
horizon
day
after
day
and
just
sit
on
the
floor
and
not
interact
with
anyone
else.
They
are
so
overwhelmed
by
their
life.
E
We
literally
have
to
begin
the
process
of
teaching
that
child,
how
to
first
connect
and
then
begin
to
walk
and
do
the
things
that
are
normally
happening
at
two
and
a
half
years
old.
So
it's
not
surprising
that
we
see
these
statistics
about
homeless
children
having
three
times
the
rate
of
emotional
and
behavioral
problems.
E
If
we
move
to
the
next
slide
and
focus
on
school-aged
children,
you'll
see
a
different
phenomenon
and
I
apologize,
I
believe,
there's
a
typo
on
this
page
that
says
bps14
000.,
it
should
say
5..
I
apologize
for
that
typo,
but
what
we
know
about
school-aged
children
with
those
5000
is
again
the
impacts
are
powerfully
negative.
These
children
are
four
times
more
likely
to
experience
developmental
delays
and
twice
as
likely
to
have
learning
disabilities
to
repeat
a
grade
or
to
be
sick
at
twice
the
rate
of
their
peers.
D
Yeah,
so
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
city
councilors,
for
your
time
and
for
giving
us
an
opportunity
to
talk
both
about
the
what
data
we
do
have
and
the
larger
scope.
We
know
what
the
problems
are
on
a
macro
level
right.
We
know
that
currently
the
city
and
the
state
lack
both
a
strategic
and
systematic
approach
to
preventing,
addressing
and
ending
family
homelessness.
D
We
know
that
services
are
hard
to
access
limited
and
are
not
coordinated
for
families
across
systems.
We
know
that
we
have
inconsistent
data,
so,
for
example,
department
of
education
has
some
of
the
most
comprehensive
data
on
homeless,
children
and
typically
most
of
us
would
assume
the
department
of
housing
and
community
development
would
have
that,
but
unfortunately,
just
based
on
the
breakdown
of
how
our
systems
work.
What
we
see
is
it's
hard
to
give
an
exact
number.
D
So
often
you'll
hear
us
talking
about
the
data
of
kids
and
families
in
shelter,
but
the
the
system
and
the
spectrum
of
families
as
it
relates
to
homelessness
is
much
broader.
So
what
we
try
to
do
here?
This
is
a
bit
of
a
complex
slide,
and
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
do
this
justice
in
a
couple
of
minutes
respecting
time
we
wanted
to
take
some
solid
research
from
the
aspen
institute,
who
does
amazing
research
very
valid,
reliable
and
they
you'll
you
see
here.
D
D
If
you
look
here
truthfully,
we
use
mostly
state
entities,
and
I
did
that
on
purpose
with
the
team
of
us
that
were
working
on
this,
because
a
lot
of
our
services
are
delivered
through
the
state
right
and
the
goal
is
for
the
city
and
the
state
and
the
feds,
ideally
to
offer
all
of
those
to
coordinate.
And
you
know,
I
think
folks,
try
really
hard.
But
what
we
see
is
if
we
ask
families
there
are
11
state
agencies
listed
here
right.
D
If
we
ask
families
to
have
to
access
11
different
spots
in
order
to
receive
all
services
to
pull
together
what
they
need
to
move
out
of
homelessness
and
stay
stably
housed,
that's
a
pretty
big
lift
right.
It's
a
big
lift
on
anybody,
who's,
not
homeless,
let
alone
folks
who
are
homeless
right
and
who
don't
have
a
place
where
they
know
that
they're
necessarily
going
to
be
every
day.
D
And
so
we
really
wanted
to
give
this
example
as
one
way
to
say
the
types
of
things
that
we
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
in
the
pitch
for
the
special
commission
are
looking
at
these
type
of
systems
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
do
we
do
right?
What
do
we
recommend,
and
so
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
over
to.
M
Another
call
to
action
would
be
that
we
create
a
report
with
strong
policy
recommendations
and
strategy
recommendations
to
the
council
within
a
12-month
time
frame.
So
it's
limited
we're
keeping
this
report
to
something
that
it
will
be
something
that
we're
held
accountable
for
and
to
you
and
we're
going
to
be
using
our
data-driven
strategies
and
best
practices
to
create
this
report
with
community
and
with
leaders
throughout
the
city
of
boston.
M
And
then
our
last
call
to
action
asked
is
really
using
what
we've
learned
from
the
city.
Commission
as
a
proxy
to
scale
the
special
commission
here
to
a
statewide
initiative,
we're
going
to
use
our
lessons
learned
in
strategies
and
policies
to
set
priorities,
because
we
know
that
the
city
of
boston
has
housed
more
than
30
percent
of
the
homeless
families
and
that
resources
need
to
be
thought
about
across
the
state,
not
just
within
the
city.
So
that
is
our
call
to
action
and
we
would
welcome
we're
not
gonna.
M
Do
questions
we're
gonna
wait
until
after
so
I'm
just
gonna.
I
wanted
to
put
our
names
up
and
pass
it
on
to
the
next
panel.
Thank
you.
J
F
J
N
So
I
accidentally
advanced
the
slide.
The
first
slide.
O
O
The
two
efforts,
while
necessary
and
important,
are
implemented
separately,
although
they
are
trying
to
address
the
needs
of
many
of
the
same
families,
the
family-led
stability
pilot
part.
The
partners
consist
of
boston,
public
schools,
boston
housing
authority,
the
department
of
neighborhood
development
city,
councilors,
the
dudley
street
neighborhood
initiative,
project,
hope,
new
lease
for
homeless
families
and
higher
ground.
O
To
demonstrate
the
value
and
effectiveness
of
place-based
community
partners
to
help
schools
and
bps
solve
the
growing
challenge
of
homeless.
Students
in
boston
schools
to
mobilize
practitioners
focused
on
education,
housing
and
health
to
collectively
collectively
advocate
for
solutions
and
resources
and
avoid
being
pitted
against
each
other
in
public
policy
and
resource
allocation
decisions,
and
to
build
on
the
success
of
the
pilot.
Flsp
will
work
with
the
city
of
boston
and
bps
to
support
families
and
children
across
all
boston
schools.
To
overcome
the
challenge
of
homelessness
in
the
entire
district.
O
O
O
To
this
end,
actually,
let
me
keep
going
as
of
july
2020
we
had
housed.
You
can
see
the
data
here
that,
on
the
on
the
screen,
as
of
july
20,
we
had
housed
families
of
205,
formerly
homeless
students
and
expect
to
house
families
of
the
remaining
estimated
90
students
during
the
2021
school
year.
O
The
third
and
final
year
of
the
pilot,
increasing
the
number
of
housing
units
available
to
families,
is
a
core
strategy
within
this
work
and
thus
far,
we've
housed
127
families
using
42
bha
vouchers,
15
units
through
new
lease
for
homeless
family
for
through
new
lease
for
homeless
families,
16
of
35
units
that
were
committed
by
bha
for
this
pilot
initiative,
26
home-based
resources
and
28
various
through
various
other
resources.
O
O
O
Another
is
attendance,
a
third
is
family
economic
circumstances
and
then
social,
emotional
learning,
so
I'll
close
with
a
couple
stories
or
a
story
about
a
family
who
was
impacted
by
the
the
flsp
support.
O
We
learned
about
the
plight
of
a
grandmother
of
two
granddaughters
attending
one
of
the
schools.
Both
children
were
under
the
age
of
10
and
the
grandmother
had
been
their
sole
caregiver
for
several
years.
Almost
one
year
prior
to
our
meeting
her
they
became
homeless
for
several
months.
They
lived
in
two
shelters
and
their
lives
were
in
a
constant
state
of
upheaval
until
our
our
organization
stepped
in.
To
give
this
family
the
help
they
desperately
needed.
O
A
quote
from
the
grandmother
is
my
family
advocate
is
so
sweet.
She
came
to
visit
me
and
my
granddaughters,
where
we
were
living.
She
helped
me
find
a
lawyer
and
she
helped
me
complete
paperwork
that
I
didn't
understand.
Now
I
have
a
section
8
voucher
and
we
are
finally
looking
for
permanent
housing.
O
N
No,
I
think
I
think
chris
christine
covered
it
all,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
between
now
and
5
15.
When
I
have
to
leave.
I
understood.
P
Thank
you
for
having
me
counselor,
savvy
george
and
madam
chair.
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
work
that
sejourna
house
does
and
I'll
start
with.
The
journal
house
is
a
small
family
shelter
for
the
homeless.
We
are
strategically
located
in
roxbury,
where
our
families
have
access
to
public
transportation
and
within
walking
distance
to
local
stores.
P
Once
a
family
has
been
identified,
we
work
with
them
on
the
unique
barriers
that
have
prevented
them
from
becoming
housed,
and
what
does
that
actually
look
like?
It
looks
like
providing
intensive
case
management,
finding
employment,
job
training
working
with
the
families
on
sealing
their
quarries,
trying
to
work
with
them
on
building
rebuilding
their
credit,
repairing
their
their
credit
as
well,
and
once
we
do
that,
we
start
working
with
them
on
stabilization
once
the
family
has
identified
housing.
P
We
track
that
family
for
up
to
a
year,
just
making
sure
that
they're
acclimated
to
their
new
neighborhood
and
we
provide
services
for
them,
checking
in
and
making
sure
that
there
are
any
community
resources
that
they
need,
that
we're
able
to
connect
them
with
those
resources.
P
In
addition
to
the
shelter
sejurna
house,
owns
affordable
housing
in
milton
roxbury
in
dorchester,
and
we
also
have
a
food
pantry
which
is
accessible
to
our
families
here
at
the
shelter
into
the
community
at
large
as
well.
P
One
of
the
things
I
do
want
to
talk
about
is
the
round
table.
The
round
table
has
been
very
helpful
and
it's
been
critical
in
the
work
that
we
do.
It
has
allowed
a
voice
for
homeless,
shelters
with
issues
that
are
impacting
our
families.
It
has
made
room
for
deeper
conversations
regarding
homelessness,
and
it
has
also
been
just
a
great
resource
to
the
families
here
and
the
staff
as
well.
P
We
like
to
make
sure
that
our
staff
is
representative
of
the
families
that
we
serve,
and
we
think
that
the
special
commission
is
a
great
concept
to
continue
this
fight
to
end
homelessness.
P
J
Sorry
about
you,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony.
We
actually
I
just
learned
from
the
chair
or
excuse
me
from
the
sponsor
that
there's
only
really
one
other
panel
that
there
were
two.
So
if
it's
okay
at
this
point
we're
gonna
go
ahead.
Oh
I'm
sorry
I
cut
over.
J
Was
there
another
person
in
the
panel
too?
Just
no
christine
dixon
spoke,
so
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
have
the
administration
finish
in
terms
of
testimony
and
then
we
can,
I
think,
open
it
up,
because
we're
running
really
well
really
well
in
time,
and
so,
if
the
administration,
if
you
want
to,
I
don't
know
how
long
your
presentation
is,
but
if
it's
you
know
within
five
to
ten
minutes,
I
think
that
really
sets
us
up
for
the
robust
conversation
that
we
can
have.
Q
Most
certainly
does,
and
I
think
we
will
be-
we
will
be
certainly
brief
and,
to
the
point,
excellent,
all
right
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
this
today-
and
I
I
want
to
I
do-
want
to
thank
again
counselor
sabe
george,
for
always
making
this
issue.
You
know
front
and
foremost,
and
all
of
the
city
council
I
mean
I.
Q
I
think
that
we've
all
had
this
issue
very
close
to
our
hearts
and
we've
done
a
lot
of
good
work,
but
I
it's
it's
gonna,
be
very
exciting
to
bring
all
of
that
work
together
and
coordinate
better.
I
will
say
for
the
record,
the
city
of
boston
and
all
of
our
departments
are
very,
very
excited
about
working
on
the
special
commission,
with
the
special
commission
on
ending
family
homelessness.
Q
So
we
are
very
supportive
of
this
commission
and
and
look
forward
to
rolling
up
our
sleeves
and
being
a
meaningful
partner,
and
my
thought
when
I
was
sitting
here
listening
to
all
these
non-profits,
incredibly
talented
non-profits,
that
we
that
we
can
fi,
we
will.
We
know
what
to
do
right.
We
know
what
to
do:
we
need
coordination
and
and
probably
more
resources
or
most
definitely
more
resources,
but
we
know
what
to
do
because
so
many
of
these
non-profits
in
our
infrastructure
have
been
doing
doing
such
a
fabulous
job.
Q
For
so
long
I
will
say,
while
the
the
city
has
a
plan
on
individual
homelessness
and
most
recently,
youth
homelessness,
we
don't
have
a
plan
for
family
homelessness,
but
I
I
do
want
to
say
for
the
record:
that's
not
to
say
that
a
lot
of
good
work
isn't
already
being
done
or
being
done
in
that
area
and
courtney
and
dominique
are
going
to
get
into
more
of
the
details.
But
from
my
vantage
point
we
are
assisting.
We
are
helping.
Q
We
are
committed
by
building
affordable
housing
and
set
asides
in
each
and
every
development
that
we
do
for
homeless
families.
Q
The
bha
most
recently
made
vouchers
available,
a
thousand
of
them
for
homeless
families
in
the
b,
the
boston
public
school
system,
they
prioritize
their
public
housing,
there's
and
there's
lots
of
work
going
on
to
prevent
families
from
becoming
homeless.
Because,
while
we
want
to
make
sure
that
families
that
do
become
homeless
get
the
services,
they
need
get
affordable,
housing
and
move
quickly
and
get
their
family
stabilized,
we
really
need
to
also
focus
on
preventing
all
of
that
from
happening
in
the
first
place.
Q
I
am
very
excited
that
in
the
2021
fiscal
budget-
and
thank
you
very
much
the
city
council
for
passing
it
and
for
lobbying
for
some
of
these
very
important
investments
that
we
will
have
money
set
aside
for
a
homeless
family
coordinator
who
will
really
help
on
the
dndn
to
to
shepherd
a
lot
of
this
work.
So
I'm
I'm
personally
really
excited
about
this
commission.
I'm
excited
about
working
with
you
all
and
with
that
I'll
hand
it
over
to
courtney
trudell.
Thank
you.
R
Thanks
sheila
and
thank
you
councillor,
sabe
george,
for
scheduling
the
hearing
and
for
your
continued
support
of
the
work
that
we
do
at
the
department,
neighborhood
development
and
housing,
our
most
vulnerable
citizens.
R
I
want
to
start
off
with
some
numbers
and
realize
in
hearing
other
numbers
that
this
in
a
bit
points
to
some
of
the
complexity
of
this
issue.
In
august
of
this
year,
we
have
843
families
composed
of
3020
adults
and
children
that
were
sheltered
in
boston,
and
that
includes
2068
people
under
the
age
of
18..
R
These
numbers
are
a
little
different
from
what
we've
heard
from
larry
at
family
aid
and
then
also
from
councillor
sylvie
george,
and
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
how
different
systems
of
care
for
families
experiencing
homelessness,
count
those
families
and
how
they
consider
them
experiencing
homelessness.
And
what
that
experience
is.
So.
R
I
think
that
it's
telling
that,
as
we're
all
giving
accurate
views
of
families
experiencing
homelessness,
they're
all
coming
from
different
perspectives,
the
boston
has
a
number
of
programs
and
dedicated
service
providers
that
house
shelter
and
support
homeless
and
at-risk
families.
R
In
total,
the
city
and
its
partners
offer
2670
permanent
homes
for
families
experiencing
homelessness
d
and
the
boston
continuum
of
care.
A
network
of
homeless
service
providers
champion
boston's
efforts
to
prevent
end
homelessness
for
all
populations.
However,
there
are
certain
components
of
the
family
homelessness
system
that
go
well
beyond
our
portfolio
of
hud
funded
resources.
R
The
advisor
will
be
a
driver
connecting
the
design
work
of
the
commission
to
the
implant
implementation
by
the
continuum
of
care
and
dnd
and,
in
conclusion,
the
support
housing
division
sees
its
work
closely
tied
to
the
mission
of
the
commission
and
we
welcome
hearing
the
ideas
of
the
providers
in
the
community
as
we
work
together
to
end
family
homelessness,
and
I
will
turn
it
over
to
dominique
to
talk
more
about
some
of
the
prevention
programs
and
resources.
S
Good
afternoon,
everyone
first
thank
you,
counselor
asabi
george,
for
calling
this
hearing
today.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
always
advocating
for
housing,
homeless
families
in
boston
and
for
ensuring
that
our
office
office
of
housing
stability
always
has
a
seat
at
the
table.
S
I
send
special
thanks
to
you
specifically
from
the
members
of
my
office,
who
are
not
able
to
be
here
today
in
person,
but
who
always
have
a
seat
at
those
at
the
table:
cat
kathy
miranda,
katie
ford
and
velgas
gonzalez,
who
are
frequent
attendees
at
the
panels
and
who
are
also
always
coming
back
to
our
office,
very
energized,
to
tackle
on
the
the
issues
and
to
give
us
key
updates
about
the
work
that
you
guys
are
doing.
So.
Thank
you
for
the
record.
S
My
name
is
dominique
williams
and
I'm
the
deputy
director
of
the
office
of
housing
stability.
We
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
and
we'll
answer
at
the
end,
any
questions
that
you
have
about
the
office
of
housing
stability
and
the
role
that
we
play
in
preventing
family
homelessness
in
boston.
S
S
S
This
is
a
program
really
of
last
resort
that
was
designed
to
meet
an
otherwise
unmet
need
for
emergency
shelter,
as
applicants
have
to
have
been
denied
emergency
assistance
by
the
dhcd
to
be
eligible
in
order
to
be
eligible
for
emergency
placement
under
ehap
or
fsmp.
A
household
must
include
physical
custody
of
a
minor
under
the
age
of
18
and
have
been
either
a
resident
or
recently
displaced
from
boston.
S
So
from
march,
through
may
of
2020
ohs
significantly
increased.
The
number
of
households
served
through
this
last
resort
program
because
of
that
increased
demand.
During
the
same
time.
Here
during
that
time
period,
we
served
32
families
and
incurred
a
total
cost
of
188
970
dollars,
which
was
an
increase
of
36
percent
over
the
cost
for
the
same
period.
In
2019,
we
attribute
the
rise
in
services
to
the
fact
that
people
were
not
able
to
access
other
shelter
options.
S
So
the
emergency
assistance
that
our
office
was
able
to
provide
in
the
early
days
of
the
pandemic
helped
to
keep
families
safe
and
healthy
through
a
really
frightening
time.
I
know
that
you
also
had
some
questions
also
about
just
the
larger
landscape,
to
take
a
look
at
what's
happening
in
terms
of
housing
and
security
in
boston.
We
can
really
only
take
our
cues
from
projecting
statistics
that
don't
distinguish
specifically
among
families
with
minor
children
and
individuals.
S
The
stout
institute
estimated
that
28
000
low-income
households
in
the
city
were
likely
at
risk
of
eviction
after
the
end
of
the
state
moratorium
on
september
october
17th,
and
in
addition
to
that
mapc
estimates
that
10
793
renter
households
who
received
cares
act
benefits
would
need
additional
rental
assistance,
since
those
benefits
ended
in
august
and
dnd
personally,
estimates
that
an
additional
4,
400,
undocumented
renters
will
also
need
assistance
meeting
their
housing
costs.
S
So
as
a
current
reality,
we
know
that
tenant
and
renter
protections
is
in
greater
need
than
ever.
Currently,
ohs
is
working
to
finalize
our
post-moratorium
eviction.
Post-Eviction
moratorium
plans
to
ensure
that
we're
ready
for
october
17th,
thanks
to
the
city
council
approval
of
the
fiscal
year
2021
budget
ohs
was
able
to
increase
to
one
additional
full-time
position,
so
bringing
us
up
to
two
positions
for
the
housing
court
navigator
program
which
directs
households
in
court
facing
eviction
to
financial
and
legal
resources.
S
We're
working
with
our
communications
department
to
target
informational
mailers
about
our
office
to
the
areas
of
the
city
that
we
know
will
probably
have
high
numbers
of
eviction
cases
once
the
moratorium
is
lifted.
And,
finally,
we're
also
working
to
finalize
our
proposed
ordinance.
That
would
require
all
landlords
to
provide
information
about
our
office
with
all
notices
to
quit
a
student
in
the
city.
So
you
guys
will
be
seeing
that
soon.
S
Finally,
of
course,
we
set
aside
a
combined
eight
million
dollars
in
the
first
two
rounds
of
our
rental
relief
funds
in
april
and
june,
and
we're
finalizing
the
application
process
for
the
sec,
the
third
round
of
funding,
which
will
be
out
soon
we're
hoping
to
coincide
that
next
round
with
the
opening
of
the
housing
court.
So
we
can
prioritize
cases
to
quickly
get
those
funds
into
the
hands
of
the
people
who
are
in
the
most
desperate
need.
S
So
in
closing,
the
office
of
housing
stability
is
well
positioned
to
both
address
the
needs
of
boston
households.
Through
this
crisis,
we
have
been
we're
extremely
passionate
about
using
this
moment
to
find
creative
solutions
to
help
stabilize
the
housing
of
our
city's
families
going
forward
and
we're
looking
forward
to
feedback
and
any
questions
from
you.
Thank
you
again.
J
Thank
you
so
much
to
all
of
our
panelists.
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
we've
also
been
joined
by
council
arroyo
before
I
turn
it
over
to
him
for
any
brief
statement
he
may
have.
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
and
bring
into
the
room
the
fact
that
we
lost
a
great
hero
and
justice
warrior
and
a
stalwart
supporter
of
right
to
counsel
that
is,
judge,
judge
gantz.
He
has
died
today
and
I
met
him
when
I
was
clerking
at
the
superior
court.
J
I
I've
known
him
and
he's
by
far
the
smartest
people.
I've
ever
met
in
my
life
and
he
was
there
for
housing,
justice
and
right
to
counsel
so
calling
on
my
colleagues
at
the
state
house.
I
would
hope
that
they
maybe
consider
passing
that
incredible
law
in
his
honor,
but
for
now
I'm
going
to
turn
it
back
over
to
counselor
arroyo.
J
But
again
we
I
don't
think
we
will
really
understand
how
much
we're
missing
in
the
legal
field
and
in
the
mindset
by
having
lost
judge
gantz
today,
so
ricardo
arroyo,
councillor
roya.
T
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
echo
your
your
sentiments
on
justice
gantz.
I
just
want
to
briefly
send
my
thoughts
and
prayers
to
his
family.
Justice
gantz,
as
a
public
defender
was
a
justice
who
we
knew
very
well.
He
worked
as
a
prosecutor,
but
was
always
dedicated
to
the
cause
of
justice
and
trying
to
understand
what
what
brought
people
into
the
situations
in
which
they
were
in
his
voice.
T
His
presence
will
be
missed
and
he's
somebody
who,
even
before
he
was
a
judge,
was
doing
community
work
in
eggleston
at
esna
and
all
these
different
areas,
and
so
he's
certainly
somebody
who'll
be
missed,
and
so
that
that's
heavy
news
today
beyond
that.
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
on
on
this
call
or
the
zoom
meeting.
Rather
this
hearing
to
discuss
an
issue,
that's
pivotal
that
impacts,
so
many
people
as
a
public
defender.
T
The
biggest
issue
that
almost
all
of
my
clients
had
was
the
inability
to
be
stabilized
and,
generally
speaking,
that
meant
an
income
that
meant
whether
it
was
medical
treatment,
but
almost
always
what
it
really
meant
was
that
they
were
either
homeless
or
functionally
homeless.
T
There
were
crowds,
they
were
couch
surfing,
they
were
staying
with
other
people,
they
would
run
out
of
time
in
one
home
and
have
to
find
another
one,
and
it
was
in
those
cracks
and
in
those
places
where
they
couldn't
find
permanent
stability
that
so
many
of
the
things
that
plagued
us
and
plagued
them
existed
and
took
root
and
got
worse.
T
And
so
this
is
a
crucial,
crucial,
crucial
issue
to
to
address,
and
I'm
grateful
to
counselor
savvy
george
for
her
efforts
throughout
her
her
career
on
the
council,
but
also
now
in
this
in
this
hearing,
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
hear
from
all
of
you
about
ways.
We
can
really
do
this
because
the
impact
it
bleeds
into
so
many
different
things.
It
impacts
so
many
different
issues
when
you're
actually
stabilized
in
your
housing
and
we'll
see
the
results
of
that.
T
If
we're
able
to
accomplish
our
goals
in
a
real
way,
in
many
families
and
in
many
homes
and
in
many
communities,
so
it's
it's
a
big
deal.
So
thank
you
again
to
everybody
for
taking
the
time
today
to
discuss.
T
A
I'll
I'll
just
jump
in
here,
while
councillor
edwards,
is
off
screen.
I
just
thank
you,
council
arroyo,
for
that.
I
do
have
a
couple
of
comments,
not
so
much
questions
as
I
work
with
these
fine
folks
pretty
regularly
every
single
day.
A
I
do
want
to
know
just
some
of
the
presentation
today
that
we
noted
some
different
numbers
numbers
that
didn't
seem
to
match
up
and
one
of
the
greatest
challenges
that
we've
sort
of
uncovered
through
our
work
in
the
round
table
is
because
so
much
of
the
work
happens
in
silos,
because
so
many
of
the
supports
are
only
offered,
in
particular
silos
and
in
different
sort
of
degrees,
of
combination,
the
numbers
and
the
data
don't
always
match,
and
one
of
our
efforts
through
the
course
of
the
roundtable
and
I'm
certain
one
of
the
efforts
of
the
special
commission
will
be
to
better
understand
the
data
and
to
make
sense
of
it,
and
so
that
we're
comparing
and
discussing
apples
and
apples
and
oranges
and
oranges,
because
unless
we
know
those
true
numbers,
it's
really
hard
to
make
some
significant
achievements,
and
that
continues
to
be.
A
You
know
that
those
you
know
the
the
different
systems
of
care,
the
different
silos,
the
different
data
points,
the
different
ways
of
collecting
information,
whether
it's
based
on
the
parent
name
and
the
caregiver
name,
or
the
child's
name-
has
really
created
some
big
challenges.
When
we
think
about
this
work
and
then
we
add
on
very
often
boston,
families,
housed
outside
of
the
city
are
sheltered
outside
of
the
city
outside
of
the
city,
families,
housed
and
sheltered
in
the
city.
A
The
relationship
with
schools,
the
relationships
with
health
care,
the
relationships
with
other
systems
of
care
really
create
some
challenges.
To
sort
of
doing
this
work
and
getting
to
a
point
where
we
can
say:
we've
got
some
actionable
goals
or
we're
getting
to
them,
but
the
work
of
the
roundtable,
I
will
say,
has
developed
a
pretty
robust
and
long
list
of
actionable
items.
A
In
fact,
there
is
a
statewide
effort
that
is
underway
to
do
something
similar
to
what
we're
looking
to
do
here,
and
I
I'm
happy
to
be
a
part
of
that
effort
and
we're
sharing
some
of
our
roundtable
work
with
that
statewide
statewide
organization,
because
why
reinvent
the
wheel?
Why
why
do
that?
When
we've
we've
covered
a
lot
of
that
ground?
A
And
for
me
this
special
commission
is,
is
really
a
great
transitioning
point,
because
the
work
in
my
office
since
I
took
office
in
2016
and
currently
is
really
being
led
by
rachel
and
my
policy
director
in
my
office.
We've
sort
of
reached
our
capacity,
so
we're
excited
about
and
grateful
for
the
efforts
and
the
support
of
the
mayor
and
chief
dylan
to
fund
this
family
advisor
position,
because
we've
hit
a
little
bit
of
our
max.
Although
we
look
forward
to
being
involved
in
everything
going
forward.
But
we've
got
lots
to.
A
We've
got
lots
of
information
to
share
and
we'll
continue
to
work
in
a
different
way,
and
I
do
want
to
just
answer
very
quickly
a
question
that
came
up
in
council
flaherty's,
opening
statements
around
the
setting
goals,
making
sure
that
it's
a
real
commission
that
there's
a
robust
effort
through
the
details
of
this
ordinance
is
drafted
and
certainly
as
it
will
be
amended
through
our
working
session
process.
Under
leadership
of
the
chair.
A
We
very
specifically
have
outlined
some
very
measurable
things.
We
want
this
commission
to
exist
for
a
short
period
of
time,
set
goals,
achieve
them
and
then
disappear.
The
way
that
we
want
family
homelessness
to
disappear
and
not
only
end
family
homelessness,
but
when
it
does
occur,
make
sure
that
it's
as
brief
as
possible.
A
So
in
those
details
we
are
hoping
within
the
first
60
days
of
this
of
this
commission
special
commission
being
formed,
and
that
is
why
also
we've
called
it
a
special
commission
to
help
heighten
and
elevate,
not
just
the
work
but
heighten
and
elevate
the
urgency
of
this
work
that
this
is
going
to
start
immediately
and
not-
and
I
guess
I
shouldn't
say
start
it's
a
continuation
of
some
of
the
roundtable
work.
A
I
think
in
a
in
a
slightly
more
significant
way,
especially
in
partnership
with
the
mayor's
office
and
chief
dylan's
department,
but
within
60
days
that
this
commission
commission
would
meet
and
the
work
really
hopefully
would
be
wrapped
up
and
done
within
a
short
period
of
time,
we're
hoping
five
years.
But
we
think
over
the
first
year
that
using
some
of
the
foundation
that's
been
laid
by
the
round
table
and
the
steps
that
we've
identified,
that
fall
under
the
authority
of
the
city
or
the
state
or
the
federal
government
we've
got.
A
A
The
roundtable
series
has
included
many
many
more
people
that
are
with
us
today,
but
I'm
so
grateful
to
the
work
of
both
the
shelter
providers
and
those
with
lived
experience
who
have
worked
with
us
to
get
to
this
point
and
I'm
so
excited
to
sort
of
be
taking
this
next
step
with
all
of
you
and
spreading
this
word.
A
We
hope
this
work
at
this
at
the
state
level
too,
which
is
which
is
underway,
but
I
will
note
not
that
we're
in
competition
with
the
state,
but
they
are
a
few
steps
behind
us
we're
a
few
steps
ahead.
So,
madam
chair,
I'm
going
to
turn
this
back
over
to
you,
but
we
look
forward
to
moving
quickly
with
that
with
that
working
session.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you.
Everyone
who's
with
us.
Thank
you.
K
I'm
sorry
counselor
edward
excuse
me,
council
edwards.
I
believe
that
councillor
flynn
was
before
me
so
just
unclear
about
the
order.
J
Yes,
so
it
will
go
to
you
now,
if
he's
not
here.
Oh
he's,
not
here,
okay,
so
go
ahead.
J
K
From
here
yep
I'm
here,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
great,
so
I'm
gonna
turn
off
my
phone
because
I'm
having
a
hard
time
with
my
computer.
So
so
I
so
thank
you.
I
I
see
some
of
my
people
here.
So
I'm
excited
mosaic
and
christine
you
guys,
we've
been
working
in
this
space
for
a
long
time
in
many
different
capacities.
K
So
I'm
really
happy
to
see
all
the
work
that
the
higher
ground
has
been
doing
and
project
hope,
and
so
it
gives
me
a
lot
of
great
joy
in
knowing
that
you
all
are
a
part
of
this
effort
so
really
excited
to
to
support
you
both
in
this
endeavor.
I
know
a
lot
of
the
families
that
we
talk
about
our
families
that
we
work
with
and
have
worked
with
and
continue
to
work
with.
So
this
is
not
a
new
conversation.
K
It's
just
dressed
up
in
a
very
different
outfit
in
a
deaf
in
a
different
decade,
but
the
issue
of
housing
and
stability
in
the
city
of
boston
continues
to
be
chronic
and
persistent.
So
I'm
happy
that
we
are
here
today
having
this
conversation,
so
I
guess
my.
J
Just
for
the
last
couple
seconds,
and
so
you
could
whatever
question
you
have.
K
Sorry
I
just
pulled
over
so
that
I
could
be
safe.
So
so
my
question
really
is
I
see
that
the
commission
the
way
it's
set
up
now
that
there'll
be
elected
officials
and
then
also
different
members
of
like
non-profit
organizations
and
people
who
lived
experienced
and
I'm
just
curious.
I
believe
you
have
10
elected
to
be
part
of
the
commission
and
I'm
just
curious
about
how
do
we
get
to
that
number
of
having
10
elected
officials
on
this
commission
and,
I
believe,
only
eight
or
so
for
non-profits?
J
Yes,
I
apologize
I'm
having
technical
difficulties
now
on
this
new
thing.
So
if
I,
if
I
end
up
falling
off
counselor
asabi
george,
if
you
would
go
ahead
and
I
will
text
you
the
order
and
figure
out
what's
going
on.
A
I
do
have
a
record
of
the
order.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
for
elected
officials,
we
are,
as
part
of
this
ordinance,
recommending
that
there
is
one
two
three
four
five
elected
officials,
not
ten.
A
We
think
that
it's
really
important
that,
because
so
much
of
the
work
that
happens
at
the
state
level
impacts
our
city's
response
to
family
homelessness,
that
we
both
have
a
member
of
the
boston
city
council,
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
boston
or
his
or
her
designee,
the
governor
of
massachusetts
or
his
or
her
designee,
a
representative
from
the
boston
delegation
of
the
house
of
representative
representatives,
as
well
as
a
member
of
the
boston
delegation
from
the
massachusetts
senate.
A
We
think
it's
really
important,
because
legislative
work
and
policy
so
directly
impacts
sort
of
the
outcomes
on
the
other
end,
so
julia
councilman
here
I
see
that
you've
returned
there's
only
five
elected
officials
as
listed
on
the
ordinance
as
presented.
K
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
clarity.
As
I
mentioned,
I
was
driving,
so
I
was
under
the
impression
it
was
10.,
so
I
and
then
I'm
just
curious
and
I'm
not
sure
who
who
would
answer
this
question
when
it
comes
to
representation
and
to
voice
when
you're
thinking
about
those
who
have
lived
experience,
are
you
going
to
be
working
with
the
non-profit
organizations
to
identify
community
residents
or
or
what
does
that
process?
Look
like.
A
I
imagine
if
anyone
any
of
the
providers
that
have
been
a
part
of
the
roundtable
series
want
to
jump
in.
I
would
welcome
that,
but
we
through
that
work,
have
worked
with
families
who
have
very
specifically
wanted
to
be
a
part
of
these
conversations.
So
I
imagine
through
perhaps
the
work
of
the
roundtable
we'd
identify
those
families,
as
we
would
also
identify
the
members,
the
the
non-profit
partners,
that
would
also
be
at
the
table.
I'll
also
know
just
for
those
at
home
that
maybe
don't
have
a
copy
of
the
ordinance
before
them.
A
We've
also
asked
that
there
is
a
representative,
that's
that
works
in
the
food
distribution
field
to
be
at
the
table,
because
food
insecurity
is
an
important
part
of
the
work
that
we
need
to
do
to
prevent
homelessness,
but
also
in
response
to
any
family
who's
experiencing
homelessness
or
most
recently
found
permanent
housing.
Food
is
a
really
important
piece
of.
A
Did
anyone
else
have
thoughts
or
comments
about
the
families
with
lived
experience?
I'd
also,
add
council
mejia
that
one
of
the
edits
that
we've
that
we're
exploring
making
to
the
ordinance
that
there
would
be
an
opportunity
for
compensation,
especially
for
families
who
would
be
participating
in
this
commission.
It's
been
done
in
some
other
places,
so
we'd
want
to
look
at
that
closely
and
discuss
that
in
further
detail
through
a
follow-up
working
session.
K
K
So
if
there
are
any
ways
to
remove
those
barriers
by
providing
compensation,
that
would
be
a
great
incentive
for
a
lot
of
folks
and
obviously
also
providing
child
care,
and
dinner
is
just
as
equally
as
important
and
I'll
advocate
for
that
and
and
then
I'm
just
curious
in
terms
of
just
your
the
round
tables
in
terms
of
I
know,
you've
been
at
this
for
a
long
time,
counselors
happy
george.
I'm
really
grateful
for
the
work
that
you've
been
doing
in
the
space.
K
I'm
just
curious
about
have
any
of
those
round
tables.
Have
you
had
people
who
who
speak
diverse?
You
know
different
languages.
Have
there
any
of
those
roundtables
been
if
there
have
been
anything
in
very
specific
languages,
whether
it
be
haitian,
creole
or
spanish,
to
really
kind
of
help
understand
the
the
magnitude
of
the
issue.
A
The
round
tables
have
not
been
outward
facing,
they've
been
interfacing
when
we've
done
some
of
our
work
at
the
different
shelters
and
in
with
those
providers,
we've
had
translation
services
for
the
families
that
have
been
present
in
those
rooms.
A
K
And
is
that
something
that
you
think
of,
as
even
though
it's
only
for
a
five
year
span
is
looking
at
how
we
can
ensure
that
even
whether
or
not
you're
part
of
the
like
we're
removing
barriers
to
engagement
for
folks
who
want
to
be
a
part
of
it?
But
that
may
not
know
how
to
speak.
English.
A
Yeah,
no,
it's
absolutely
something
that
we'll
look
at.
I
just
made
a
note
of
it.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
I'm
going
to
continue
with
rounds
and
we'll
we'll
circle
back
unless
any
of
the
panelists
have
something
to
add.
Regarding
the
membership
question
or
the
language
question,
thank
you.
Counselor
bach,.
H
Thank
you
so
much
counselor,
sabi,
george
and
again
just
really
really
appreciate.
I
I'm
excited.
I
I've.
I've
been
excited
watching
your
round
table
over
many
years
now
and
I'm
excited
at
the
idea
of
it
becoming
like
concrete
and,
like
you
say,
kind
of
elevating
this
issue.
H
I
think
my
biggest
set
of
questions
are
about
how
to
get
the
right
forces
at
the
state
in
the
room
and
obviously
the
the
ordinance
anticipates
some
state
folks
involved,
but
also
kind
of
a
set
of
state
agencies
that
might
be
called
upon
as
necessary,
and
you
just
reference
the
food
issue,
and
I
guess
I'm
kind
of
wondering-
and
in
this
sense
it
could
be
a
question
for
anybody
on
the
panels
like
what
what
piece
of
what
piece
of
the
puzzle
seems
to
be
missing
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
coordination
like
are
there?
H
Are
there
specific
agencies
or
angles
on
this
family
homelessness
problem
that
you
feel
like?
We
don't
get
at
the
round
table
or
we
don't
get
in
the
conversation
and
would
be
a
piece
of
actually
making
change
on
this
front,
I
mean,
I
think,
counselor
edwards
alluded
to.
Obviously
the
eviction
issue-
and
you
know,
we've
got
a
ton
of
evidence
that
repeated
evictions
drives
up
families,
housing
costs
and
sort
of
creates
these
cycles
of
homelessness.
H
So
I
can
imagine
the
legal
dynamic
being
one
that
we'd
want
in
the
room
and
you
just
mentioned
food,
but
I
would
love
to
hear
from
you
counselor
sabby
george,
if
you
want,
but
also
from
any
of
the
panelists
and
our
city
folks
about
like
who
we
think
really
needs
to
be
in
the
room
to
to
make
tracks
on
this
issue.
A
I
will
I'll
start,
and
I
do
want
to
hear
from
some
of
our
providers
who
have
who
know
this
better
than
I
do.
But
I
will
I
just
want
to
take
this
opportunity,
because
it
reminds
me
to
thank
many
of
our
state
agency
leaders
who
have
come
to
the
and
city
leaders
who
have
come
to
the
round
table.
Over
the
last
few
years,
chief
dillon
has
been
a
guest
and
spoken
to
the
providers.
Chief
martinez
has
spoken
to
the
providers.
Mayor
walsh
has
spoken
to
the
private
to
the
providers.
A
We've
also
had
secretary
sutters
we've
had
the
dta,
the
chief
of
the
dta
join
us.
Dmh
join
us,
dph
has
joined
us.
The
superintendent
has
joined
us,
so
we've
had
quite
the
list
of
agency
leaders
at
our
roundtable
series
to
hear
from
providers
directly
and
to
you
know,
continue
not
just
building
relationships
and
networks,
but
also,
I
think,
really
learning
how
to
sort
of
curate
the
work
going
forward,
especially
around
a
series
of
rfps
that
we're
going
out
to
hear
from
the
providers
was
a
really
important
piece
of
that
work.
A
But
I'm
going
to
leave
it
who's
missing
and
what's
missing,
I'm
going
to
leave
that
question
to
the
rest
of
the
panel.
A
D
I
say
if
kate
wants
to
go
first
on
child
care.
That's
fine,
too!
No!
Okay!
So
let
me
let
me
answer
the
state
question
in
a
broader
way
than
just
child
care.
So
from
my
experience,
the
state
agencies
hold
a
lot
of
our
long-term
service
capacity.
F
Just
to
your
point,
counselor
bach,
there's
an
interagency
council
for
homelessness
at
the
state
level
that
engages
each
of
the
departments
that
danielle
presented
in
in
her
presentation,
I
think
representation
or
engagement
with
the
interagency
council.
That's
been
very
focused
on
chronic
adult
homelessness
and
is
now
very
focused
on
unaccompanied
homelessness.
Again,
a
lot
of
that
is
driven
by
state
and
federal
policy.
F
I
think
bringing
a
body
together
engaging
that
larger
interagency
council,
like
we
have
in
the
past,
for
unaccompanied
youth
and
for
chronic
homeless,
adults
and
veterans,
would
be
a
really
good
start
and
maybe
a
place
to
to
bring
and
engage
that
particular
agency,
because
it
sits
across
all
the
secretariats
of
the
commonwealth.
E
This
is
a
pitch
for
the
fact
that
we
still
have
a
system
that
that
needs
work
when
it
comes
to
giving
children
access
to
early
education,
it's
the
only
place
where
they
get
the
routines
that
they
need,
while
they're
homeless
and
in
this
state
it's
still
hard
for
people
to
gain
access
and
find
either
a
homeless
contract
or
voucher.
And
that
isn't
you
know
that
it
needs
to
be
addressed,
because
these
kids,
also
you
know
when
they
arrive
in
shelter,
they
should
immediately
be
screened.
E
So
that's
an
issue
of
you
know
getting
the
department
of
mental
health
to
get
in
and
screen
children
that
enter
in
shelter.
Then
we
got
to
get
them
into
an
early
education
program
right
now,
even
if
they're
getting
a
voucher
or
contract
they're
paying
a
parent
fee.
How
can
a
homeless
family
pay
a
parent
fee
when
they
sometimes
don't
have
the
money
to
get
on
a
bus
across
town
to
go
to
the
ccr
and
r
and
blah
blah
blah
blah?
M
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
counselor
and
thank
you
counselor
bock
for
the
question
I
would
add
two
additional
items
and
and
on
a
list
that
is
so
thoughtful
data,
comprehensive
data,
as
we
heard
more
than
once
across
the
presentation
making
sure
that
our
data
is
consistent
across
the
board.
M
So
that
way
we
can
start
to
identify
data-driven
strategies
to
start
to
end
a
family
homelessness
would
be
key
and
then,
as
chief
dylan
and
courtney
know
on
the
phone
and
dominique
as
well,
and
my
background
is
housing,
so
I
believe
we
need
landlords
at
the
table.
We
need
developers
at
the
table,
non-profit
and
profit,
and
so
housing
to
me
is
a
very
important
issue
that
we
need
to
bring
to
the
table.
H
Yeah,
just
a
quick
one,
for
I
don't
know
if
it's
quick
but
count
for
chief
dillon,
just
around
I
mean
it
was
alluded
to
the
state
level.
At
the
city
level,
we've
also
had
a
very
successful
focus
on
chronic
veterans,
homelessness
that
really
has
kind
of
gone
down
the
list
and
tried
to
solve
specific
cases,
and
I
think
we
all
know
that
that
sometimes
that
enormous
success
is
less
evident,
because
so
many
folks
come
from
outside
of
the
city
of
boston
and
so
we're
continually
kind
of.
H
We
can
have
a
continual
pipeline
of
people
to
help,
but
I
just
wanted
to
really
appreciate
that
work
and
ask
you
what
your
thoughts
are
as
we
think
about
kind
of
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
compliment
to
that
work
that
in
many
ways
we're
looking
to
mirror
it
with
a
special
focus
on
family
homelessness
and
I'd
love
to
know
what
you
feel
like
you've
learned
from
that
process.
Q
Now
it's
a
good
question.
I
think
we
can
learn
as
we
embark
on
this
new
targeted
focused
work
on
on
some
of
the
successes
in
the
past.
I
think
when
I
look
at
the
vets
there
was
right.
There
was
a
lot
of
new
resources
right,
so
I
think
we
should
think
big
right.
That
was
bash
and
we
hadn't
had
vash
before
and
then
then
the
the
city
you
know,
was
making
resources
available
in
the
state.
So
I
think
you
know
we.
Q
If
we're
going
to
solve
it,
we
need
big
new
resources
and
may
who
knows
maybe
after
november.
You
know
we'll
we'll
see
that
I
I'm
hopeful.
It's
been
mentioned
data
you
know.
So
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
the
resources?
How
who
are
the
families?
Where
are
they
coming
from?
How
long
have
they
been
homeless?
How
many
kids
do
they
have?
What
are
their
barriers?
You
know
all
of
that
stuff
really
leads
you
to
exactly
what
you
need
to
do
and
I
am
always
bald
over.
Q
I
mean
the
commission
probably
won't
do
this
work,
but
it
should
lead
to
it
of
very
thoughtful
people
sitting
around
with
with
families
identified
that
that
have
not
been
able
to
get
what
they
need
in
in
solving
family
by
family,
and
I
hope
we
get
to
that.
You
know
after
we
identify
the
resources
and
the
data,
and
we
set
up
systems
really
looking
across
the
system
and
saying
who's
been
stuck.
Who
do
we
need
to
focus
on
and
making
that
our
priority?
Q
A
And
if
I
could
just
add
to
what
chief
dylan
was
saying,
those
that
are
getting
into
the
weeds
and
making
a
difference
today,
it's
you
know
it's:
it's
courtney,
it's
dominique
it's
dominique's
office,
it's
kathy
and
katie
and
bilkus
that
are
they're,
the
ones
that
we
call
when
we
have
that
family.
That's
stuck
at
some
point
and
then
certainly
with
the
support
with
the
support
of
the
organizations
that
are
here
today,
so
that
that's
great
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councillor
bach,
and
see
that.
H
H
I
came
to
your
family
homelessness
roundtable
when
I
was
staffing,
billy
mcgonagall
when
he
came
on
behalf
of
the
vha
I
think
april
of
last
year,
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
I
think
as
we're
thinking
about
who's
at
the
table
here,
that
the
housing
authority,
I
think,
has
been
an
important
piece
of
some
of
these
other
efforts
and
and
is
going
to
continue
to
be
an
important
piece,
both
the
voucher
and
public
housing
side.
H
So
I
think
we
may
want
to
find
a
way
to
give
them
a
role
in
this.
A
Yeah,
that's,
I
think,
can
I
just
oversight
of
maybe
who's
who's
on
the
list,
because
chcd
is,
for
example,
and
I
think
aha
should
certainly
be.
Thank
you
counselor
bach
councilman.
Before
I
go
to
council
braden
did
you
have.
K
Yeah,
no
I'm
just
I'm
just
curious
about
process
because
I
don't
know.
I
know
that
I
was
stopped.
I
wasn't
sure
if
you
were
done
with
me
then,
and
then
I
and
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
are
we
going
to
go
back
to
another
round
just
because
I
don't
feel
like
I
finished
and
then
I
know,
counselor
bach
went
on
a
little
bit
longer
than
me,
so
I'm
just
curious
about
whether
or
not
I'm
going
to
have
an
opportunity
to
come
back
we'll.
L
Thank
you
just
a
little
more
about
the
importance
of
child
care
and
access
to
quality,
child
care,
and
it's
a
it's
a
re
all
the
intersectionality
of
all
the
different
issues
like
access
to
job
training
and
and
efforts
to
raise
up
the
economic
stability
of
the
families
as
well,
so
that
they
can
be
able
to
become
more
self-sustaining,
and
I
know,
there's
a
huge
level
of
need
in
terms
of
child
care
and
the
other
issue
I
had
was
with
regard
to
parents
and
not
only
children
with
disabilities,
but
perhaps
a
parent
with
a
disability.
A
E
Like
to
take
that
well,
I
I
can
speak
only
to
the
child
care,
but
I
wasn't
sure
what
the
specific
question
was.
I
can
tell
you
that,
right
now,
in
the
state
of
massachusetts,
there
are
nine
thousand
children
on
the
wait
list
for
vouchers.
E
Now
you
know
there
are
children.
Obviously
some
of
those
children
are
are
perfectly
housing.
They
just
are
are
poor,
but
it
is
a
complex
multi-step
process
for
a
family
to
one
find
a
seat
in
a
child
care
center
if
they
are
homeless.
E
Frankly,
if
they're
any
person
it's
it's
complex,
but
for
the
homeless,
it's
more
complex
because
you
have
to
find
a
place
that
has
a
child
care,
either
a
homeless
contract
which
those
contracts
have
not
been
bid
out
in
the
last.
I
think
it's,
I
think,
we're
on
the
ninth
year
of
a
three-year
bid.
If
that
I
think
that's
correct,
and
so
those
those
contracts
are
now
misaligned
with
the
need.
So
that
is
a
process
that
that
keeps
contracts
from
being
available
where
they
are
most
needed.
E
E
It's
very
complicated
for
the
family
to
understand
how
that
process
actually
works
and
to
go
to
the
multiple
visits
that
they
have
to
make
to
get
a
voucher
from
a
ccr
and
r,
and
so
the
whole
thing
just
it's.
It
takes
time.
It
takes
energy,
it
takes
focus
and
it's
hard,
and
so
it
keeps
a
lot
of
families
from
getting
their
children
into
early
education
and
without
a
safe
place
to
put
a
child.
E
It's
very
hard
to
get
your
economic
house
in
order
and
you
know,
fix
the
problem
of
instability.
I
hope
that
answered
some
of
your
question.
L
That
did
indeed
thank
you.
Thank
you,
the
child
care.
I
we
we
had
a
hearing
a
few
weeks
ago
about
the
importance
of
good
child
care
for
everyone
really,
but
this
we
do
have
a
crisis
in
that
area
yeah
and
it's
it's
particularly
acute
for
folks
who
are
on
house
or
in
unstable
housing
situations.
L
The
question
really
about
the
disability
was,
you
know,
I
I've
had
some
experience
working
with
a
family
who
the
mother
had
a
disability,
and
it
was
really
really
difficult
to
find
not
only
housing
that
was
adequate
for
the
family,
but
they
had
the
the
disability
of
the
parent
added,
an
extra
layer
of
of
difficulty
to
the
whole
situation,
and
I
always
feel
that
as
a
physical
therapist.
With
that
background,
myself,
I
I
feel
you
know
to
raise
up
the
issue
of
this
disability
is
is
important.
L
E
F
Counselor
braden,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
question
just
to
add
to
kate's
notes,
she's
she's
correct
so
in
our
particular
agency,
and
certainly
I
imagine
we're
we're
more
than
a
fifth
of
the
shelter
we
serve
a
fifth
of
the
shelter
population
in
the
city.
Our
agency
alone
and
40
of
our
parents
have
self-disclosed
chronic
health
conditions
and
then
an
additional
20
percent
have
other
mental
health,
physical
or
developmental
disabilities.
F
So
that
makes
a
fairly
large
population
of
individuals
and
kate
is
correct.
Those
families
with
underlying
conditions,
mental,
physical
or
behavioral
the
length
of
time
in
shelter
is
exponentially
longer
because
it's
fewer
opportunities
for
both
shelters.
So,
as
felicia
smith
had
mentioned
very
few
accessible
homeless,
shelter
units,
we
have
some
felicia's
got
a
lot
and
then
actual
housing
itself,
plus
access
to
services.
Our
families
are
very
transient.
They
get
bounced
around
they're
hard
to
catch
up.
So
when
we
apply
for
services,
their
original
address
would
be
about
their
current
address.
L
Thank
you
for
your
answer.
You
know,
as
as
a
housing
advocate
over
many
years,
one
and
we
built
a
whole
huge
amount
of
housing
in
austin
brighton,
but
one
thing
I
think
in
terms
it's
really
important
to
have
developers
at
the
table
because
both
private
developers
and
non-profit
developers.
I
feel
that
especially
out
here.
L
The
focus
is
very
much
on
building
small
units
of
housing
like
studios
and
one
bedrooms,
and
it's
not
set
up
to
build
an
infrastructure
of
housing
that
supports
families,
we're
just
not
building
housing
for
families
in
a
in
an
economy.
That's
focused
on
young
professionals
who
are
single
or
in
smaller
family
groups
than
than
than
in
regular
families.
So
it's
a
big
problem.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
breeden,
counselor
arroyo.
T
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
whatever.
Is
it
vice
chair?
What
like?
It's?
Not
even
my
chair,
but
just
one
question,
so
my
experience
in
trying
to
help
people
who
are
struggling
with
homelessness
involve
largely
trying
to
connect
them
to
agencies
as
we
create
this.
You
know
this
round
table
with
goals
towards
finding
you
know
holes
and
servicing
these
needs.
T
I
I'm
aware
that
you
know
providers
will
be
at
the
table
and
some
elected
officials,
and
hopefully
there
will
be
space
for
folks
who
are
actually
have
been
had
unstable
housing
or
are
currently
dealing
with
that
situation,
but
one
of
the
gaps
that
I
think
would
be
good
to
hear,
and
it
may
already
be
happening
in
terms
of
the
conversations
is
there
are
certain
agencies
that
I'm
sure
more
often
than
others
are
seeking
out
providers.
T
T
And
so
is
there
a
space
included
here
or
a
way
to
receive
input
from
them
about
where
they
believe
that
the
access
to
those
services
can
be
made
easier
or
more
clear
or
more
streamlined.
A
A
So
I
think
that's
a
fantastic
suggestion
and
we
will
do
that
and
to
your
first
question:
there
are
three
seats
at
the
table
for
individuals
with
live,
expertise,
lived
experience
and
one
of
the
shifts
that
we
suggest,
I
think
I
forget,
I
think
it
came,
maybe
from
even
from
courtney
or
dominique
or
chief
dylan,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
compensating
any
individual
who
has
lived
expertise,
a
family
who's
experiencing
homelessness
or
currently
unhoused
that
we
are
compensating
them
for
their
time.
But
I'll
look
into
the
cpcs
piece
as
well.
T
Yeah-
and
I
would
just
also
you
know-
I-
I
don't
I'm
not
a
provider
for
these
services,
and
so
I
think
that
the
organizations
that
do
provide
these
services
probably
know
where
they
get
most
of
their
referrals
or
clients
from
whether
it's
you
know
from
specific
organizations
or
not,
and
it
would
be
interesting
to
me
even
if
they
don't
have
a
necessarily
a
seat
there.
T
If
they're
part
of
some
of
these
sessions
that
they're
allowed
to
come
in
and
just
say
hey
when
I
go
through
the
process,
this
is
where
I
tend
to
run
into
walls,
or
this
is
where
my
clients
tend
to.
You
know,
feel
unable
to
get
to
the
bureaucracy,
and
I
think
that
would
just
be
a
good
point
of
of
trying
to
make
these
things
accessible
to
the
folks.
So
it's
it's
that
more
so
than
just
cpcs,
but
in
general
and
that's
it.
Thank
you
so
much
all
for
the
work
you
do
it's
it's
vital.
A
Yeah
no,
I
appreciate
that
and
I
think
that
they
can
lend
some
important
advice
and
I'll
say
this
to
the
members
of
the
roundtable
that
are
here
today
that
they
should
probably
take
a
look
at
our
list
of
items
that
sort
of
need
to
happen
by
government
level,
but
then
also
by
timeline,
because
there
may
be
some
gaps
that
we
missed
in
our
conversations
and
that
could
really
educate,
educate
us
to
some
of
those
missing
pieces.
Thank
you
very
much.
Council
arroyo.
A
D
Sure
so
you
know
there's
many
different
ways
to
think
about
how
humans
function
in
the
world
and
the
aspen
institute
basically
breaks
it
down
into
domains
and
when
it
comes
to
the
background
of
this
model,
I
would
actually
have
to
defer
to
mr
siemens
on
that.
He
spent
much
more
time
looking
at
it
intensely
than
I
have,
but
as
a
group,
what
we
talked
about
was:
how
did
we
look
at
the
different
areas
that
we
all
need
to
access
every
one
of
us
all
of
our
families,
in
shelter
or
homeless,
and
not
in
shelter?
D
And
for
me,
it's
always
thinking
about.
Where
do
the
services
lie
and
how
do
folks
access
those
services?
And
so
what
we
liked
about
the
visual
of
the
aspen
institute
was
that
it
structured
domains
and
that
if
you
stopped
and
said
okay
to
access
the
services,
I
would
need
for
this
domain.
Where
do
I
go
and
when
you
started
to
kind
of
tag,
those
domains
to
different
state
agencies,
you
started
to
see
that
you
end
up
with
a
very
large
number
of
agencies
right,
so
kate
talks
about
child
care
and
that's
eec.
D
D
What
you
see
is
that
when
government
funds
things
you
guys
know
better
than
I
do
serving
in
in
those
roles
right,
you
have
to
figure
out
how
you
deliver
the
money
in
a
way
that
gets
to
the
services
and
what
happens
naturally
is
a
fragmentation
of
how
those
services
get
sliced,
and
then
you
determine
eligibility
based
on
limited
resources.
So
what
we
tried
to
show
there
was
if
we
wanted
families
to
have
access
to
different
parts
of
their
life
right
and
how
they
function,
whether
it's
food,
mental
health,
domestic
violence
right.
D
How
did
you
start
to
think
about
who
had
control
of
those
services
and
resources,
and
how
did
you
pull
them
together?
And
the
special
commission
will
look
at
that
right?
That's
what
they
will
be
tasked
to
do
is
say:
how
do
we
try
to
coordinate?
Where
are
the
barriers
when
folks
are
trying
to
access
across
different
services
across
different
entities?.
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much.
Danielle
for
sharing
that
counselor
flynn
is
no
longer
with
us.
I
know
count.
Chief
dylan
did
have
to
leave,
so
she
did
a
quiet,
goodbye,
counselor,
mejia,.
K
Thank
you,
so
I'm
sorry,
counselor
edwards,
is
no
longer
part
of
the
conversation.
I
was.
I
don't
see
her
here.
No.
K
Okay,
okay,
so
I'm
just
curious.
I'm
really
excited
about
all
of
this
and
just
curious
in
terms
of
the
frequency
of
like
the
information.
That's
going
to
be
shared
and
rolled
out.
Will
there
be
like
a
dashboard
or
or
some
way
for
people
to
keep
informed
about
the
work
that's
happening?
I
think
that
would
be
a
really
great
attribute
to
to
this
project.
If
it,
if
it
doesn't
exist,
then
it
would
be
great
to
have
or
consider.
K
I
just
think
that
information
everyone's
hungry
for
information
these
days
and
so
the
more
access
we
have
to
what
you're
learning
and
what
you're
finding
and
if
it
could
be,
you
know
something
that
you
can
share
out
on
a
quarterly
basis
from
a
central
dashboard.
K
That
would
be
helpful
to
those
who
are
doing
this
work,
and
I
also
think
about
a
lot
of
non-profit
organizations
who
are
smaller,
a
little
more,
the
mom-and-pop
type
of
shops
in
terms
of
kind
of
like
the
roles
and
responses
you
know
road
that
they
can
play
in
in
having
a
seat
at
the
table.
K
One
thing
is:
is
looking
at
non-profits
and
then
also
thinking
about
those
who
are,
usually
you
know
doing
the
work,
but
just
don't
have
a
seat
at
the
table,
just
curious
about
kind
of
like
that
recruitment
and
how
we
can
make
sure
that
we're
looking
across
the
entire
city
for
folks
to
be
engaged
in
the
process,
and
then
I'm
also
just
curious
about
this
is
more
about.
K
You
know
the
develop
development,
that's
happening
in
the
city
of
boston
and
I
think
counselor
breeding
was
really
dead-on
in
terms
of
like
making
sure
that
developers
are
also
part
of
this,
or
at
least
engaged
in
the
conversation,
because
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we're
talking
about
begin
and
end
with
whether
or
not
we
have
enough
affordable
housing
in
the
city
of
boston.
It
begins
and
ends
with
the
number
of
affordable
units
that
exist
in
the
city
of
boston.
K
So
we
can't
talk
about
ending
homelessness,
family
homelessness,
if
we're
not
really
looking
at
the
way
we're
building
in
boston,
and
so
I'm
just
curious
what?
What
role?
If
any
we're
looking
at
development
developers,
in
particular
playing
in
this
commission
and
then
the
last
question
that
I
had
is
to
someone's
point
earlier
in
terms
of
like
it's
only
here
for
five
years,
I'm
just
curious
about
how
to
end
the
family
homelessness.
A
Those
are
all
fantastic
and
excellent
questions.
I'll
just
point
you
to
the
ordinance
around
some
of
the
reporting
out.
There
isn't
a
specific
reference
to
the
dashboard,
but
there
is
mandated
quarterly
meetings,
as
well
as
additional
subcommittee
meetings,
as
determined
by
the
commission,
especially
specific
to
certain
topic
areas,
as
well
as
a
biannual
report
to
the
clerk
and
then
presentation
before
the
city
council
regularly,
as
many
of
a
number
of
our
commissions
do.
Currently.
A
I
think
that
the
addition
or
the
link
to
the
dashboard
may
be
a
an
interesting
way
to
also
share
some
of
this
information.
The
question
around
the
five-year
piece
is
one
that
we
discussed
in
great
detail.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
this.
Work
can
continue
longer
than
that,
but
that
we
work
towards
something
that
will
happen
both
the
initial
meeting
within
60
days.
A
Then
the
initial
work
within
the
first
12
months,
but
then
recognizing
that
if
we
don't
have
an
end
date
in
mind
that
the
work
will
just
go
on
and
sometimes
it'll
meander
mindlessly
when
we
set
hard
deadlines,
deadlines
can
always
be
extended.
But
if
we're
not
working
towards
positive
within
a
specific
time
frame,
the
work
will
sometimes
get
extended.
A
Some
items
that
we
think
could
happen
within
a
six-month
time
frame,
12
month,
12,
month,
etc,
because
it's
so
important
that
we
are
sort
of
calculating
and
counting
and
measuring
and
working
towards
some
sort
of
end
result.
The
developer
question
is
really
interesting
one
because
we
as
a
round
table
as
we
brainstormed
and
talked
about
different
partners
to
have
at
the
table,
one
that
had
not
been
at
the
table
but
was
on
our
queue
and
then
covet
hit
was
both
private
developers
and
non-profit
developers.
A
How
did
how
could
we
and
how
could
the
providers
be
connected
to
and
networked
with
the
mass
cdc
alliance
so
that
they
could
do
some
work
with
non-profit
developers?
How
could
they
also
be
partnered
with
some
of
the
larger
scale
developers,
and
we
had
conversations,
including
the
bpda
around
the
need
to
make
sure
that
affordable
units
included
family
sized,
affordable
units,
and
then
your
questions
around
smaller
non-profits
felicia
is
here
from
the
sojourner
house,
which
is
one
of
those
smaller
family
shelters.
A
We
also
have,
as
part
of
the
roundtable
series,
st
ambrose
church,
which
is
a
small
family,
shelter,
you're
very
familiar
with
project
hope,
which
provides
lots
of
services,
but
is
a
smaller
scale
when
it's
for
the
family,
shelter
piece,
our
roundtable
list
is
comprehensive,
we're
continuing
always
to
build
on
it.
We
had
that
statewide
meeting
the
other
day
in
which
we
discovered
a
few
more
shelter
providers
that
work
with
boston
families
that
haven't
been
at
the
table
that
were
we're
always
looking
to
add
and
build
on
it.
A
The
round
table
is
actually
a
fairly
large
group
of
providers
here
today
you
just
see
a
sampling
of
some
of
the
different
types.
I'm
not
sure.
I
think
I've
answered
most
of
your
questions,
I'm
not
sure
if
any
of
the
panelists
have
something
to
add
some
to
add
to
my.
K
Responses-
okay,
that's
great!
Thank
you
for
that,
and
then
I
just
want
for
the
record
to
note
that
a
lot
of
the
advocacy
that
my
office
did
on
behalf
of
some
of
the
budget
items,
whether
or
not
we
voted
yes
for
it.
K
A
lot
of
the
advocacy
that
we
did
for
language
access
and
outreach
and
supporting
sheila
dylan's
department
was
because
of
how
loud
we
were
in
every
single
public
hearing
about
making
sure
that
we're
pouring
resources
into
what
is
going
to
help
uplift
and
get
our
people
out
of
out
of
poverty
and
to
stay
out
of
poverty
and
to
stay
housed.
K
And
so
I
just
want
to
say
for
the
record
that
while
I
may
have
not
voted
in
favor
of
the
budget,
a
lot
of
the
advocacy
during
the
56
000
public
hearings
that
I
participated
in
during
the
budget
session
was
to
help
support
our
most
vulnerable
residents
in
the
city
of
boston,
including
a
lot
of
the
efforts
that
come
out
of
sheila's
department.
So
I
just
want
to
just
say
that,
for
the
record
that
I'm
all
day
every
day
about
those
who
are
living
these
realities
and
so
really
here
for
all
of
it.
H
Bach,
madam
chair,
thanks
so
much,
I
think
I've
I've
asked
all
my
questions
looking
forward
to
the
working
sessions
and
digging
into
some
of
the
more
legislative
details,
but
again
just
want
to
appreciate
you
and
all
the
panelists
this
evening
and
say
that
I
unfortunately
have
to
go
to
a
six
o'clock,
so
I
won't
be
here
for
the
duration.
Thank
you.
A
That's
quite
fine!
Thank
you.
Counselor
bach,
and
during
this
hearing
I
received
a
text
message
when,
when
director
mcgonagall
and
bill
was
at
that
hearing,
there's
a
picture
of
you
in
the
in
the
group
because
we
do
like
to
take
photos
of
our
round
tables.
So
thank
you
for
that
continued
support.
Council
braden.
Do
you
have
an
additional
question.
L
No,
I
I'm
really
excited
about
continuing
this
process.
It's
congratulations
on
on
this
initiative
and
I
want
to
be
involved
in
any
way
I
can
to
support
to
support
the
work.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
council
breden,
and
I
will
say
that
your
attention
to
this
idea
around
creating
more
additional
family
size,
affordable
housing,
really
is
key
to
so
much
of
this
work
because
it's
a
huge
deficit
when
we
think
about
the
needs
of
our
families
across
across
our
city.
So
thank
you.
A
Councillor
arroyo
has
left
so
I've
also
said
a
lot,
and
I
wonder
if
you
know,
if
any
of
the
panelists
anyone
here
have
anything
additional
to
add
before
we
wrap
up
today's
hearing.
A
I
want
to
just
you
know,
extend
again
my
I'm
just
incredibly
grateful
for
just
the
work
that
you
do
every
day
for
the
families
here
in
the
city
of
boston,
whether
you
do
it
for
an
organization
or
for
the
city,
I'm
just
so
happy
to
know
all
of
you
and
to
be
able
to
do
this
work.
Alongside
of
you,
there
was
a
tweet
the
other
day.
I
think
danielle
your
organization
said
a
thank
you
tweet
to
me
for
some
of
my
work,
and
I
say
it's.
A
I
feel
grateful
to
get
to
do
this
work.
I
don't
want
to
do
this
work.
I
want
to
end
family
homelessness
and
I
want
to
focus
on
other
things,
but
until
that
day
I
am
very
just
lucky
to
be
able
to
do
this
work
every
single
day
with
all
of
you,
because
your
passion
certainly
continues
to
light
my
flame,
because
this
this
work
can
get
tiring
and-
and
I
can
pick
and
choose
the
times
of
day,
that
I
want
to
focus
on
this.
This
is
your
bread
and
butter.
A
So
I'm
just
forever
grateful
for
to
to
be
able
to
sample
your
passion
to
be
a
part
of
this
work
and
the
way
that
all
of
you
have.
Let
me
be
a
part
of
this
work.
I
look
forward
to
what
council
edwards
referred
to
as
our
working
session
to
work
on
any
of
these
text
amendments
to
see
how
we
can
incorporate
some
of
the
suggestions
that
came
up
in
today's
hearing,
as
well
as
the
com
compensatory
option.
A
I
am
curious
if
central
staff
can
tell
me
if
we
have
any
public
testimony,
I
don't
believe
we
have
any.
A
So,
thank
you
christine
for
that
and
central
staff
for
making
today
happen.
I
also
want
to
thank
chief
dylan.
I
know
she
had
to
leave
for
another
commitment,
but
grateful
for
her
leadership
and,
of
course,
mayor
walsh
for
his
leadership
and
certainly
support
especially
around
staffing,
this
commission,
with
a
family
advisor
an
advisor
on
family
homelessness.
We
all
know
those
of
us
that
feel
passionate
about
this
work,
that
if
we
don't
name
it
and
if
we
don't
fund
it,
it's
really
hard
to
do
it.
A
It
just
becomes
simple
conversations
around
the
table,
but
to
see
this
work
head
into
this
sort
of
new
iteration
in
this
new
life
is
really
exciting
for
me
and
happy
to
scream
it
from
the
rooftops,
or
at
least
through
social
media,
for
the
time
being,
but
without
further
ado,
I
will
adjourn
counselor
chair
edwards
is
hearing
today
on
docket
number.