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From YouTube: Committee on Government Operations on October 5, 2020
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Docket #0226 - Ordinance to provide for the safe disposal of sharps through the establishment of a Product Stewardship Program
B
B
Good
good
morning,
everyone,
I'm
city
council,
lydia,
edwards,
chair
of
the
committee
on
government
ops.
It
is
monday
october
5th,
and
we're
here
today
for
a
virtual
working
session
on
docket
0226,
an
ordinance
to
provide
for
the
safe
disposal
of
sharps
through
the
establishment
of
a
product
stewardship
program.
Counselor
bobby
george
anissa
fabi
george,
is
the
sponsor
of
this
matter
is
referred
to
the
committee
on
january
29
2020.,
in
accordance
with
governor
baker's
executive
order.
B
We
are
hosting
this
hearing
on
zoom,
which
allows
for
us
to
carry
out
our
business
while
at
the
same
time,
balancing
public
health
needs.
The
public
may
watch
this
meeting
via
live
stream
at
www.boston.gov
city
dash
council
dash
tv.
It
will
also
be
rebroadcasted
at
a
later
date
on
comcast
8
rcn82
verizon
1964.
B
Excuse
me.
This
proposal
will
establish
a
product
stewardship
program
for
the
safe
collection
and
disposable
shop
disposal
of
sharks.
The
manufacturers
of
the
sharps
would
be
required
to
work
with
realtors
retailers.
Excuse
me
that
sell
sharps
for
personal
use
to
take
back
sharps
at
the
end
of
life,
with
no
additional
cost
to
the
consumer.
The
proposal
would
provide
consumers
with
more
convenient
options
to
return
sharps
and
will
ensure
the
safe
and
environmentally
sound
disposable
disposal
of
personal
use
sharks.
B
Joining
us
today
from
the
administration
are
chris,
english
chief
of
staff
for
isd
pj,
mccann
legal
counsel
and
for
the
boston,
health,
boston,
public
health,
commission,
jen,
tracy,
director
of
recovery
services
and
leon
bethune,
director
of
environmental
health
division
of
the
boston
public
health
commission
also
joining
us
today
are
my
colleagues.
Along
with
myself.
B
I
have
the
lead
sponsor
counselor
at
large
anissa,
savi,
george
district,
nine
city,
councilor,
liz,
braden
district,
two
city,
councilor,
ed
flynn,
district,
six,
yeah,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
so
sorry,
district,
six
city,
councilor,
matt,
o'malley
and
counselor
at
large,
anissa
counselor
at
large
julia
mejia.
Have
I
missed
any
of
my
other
colleagues.
B
Very
well
counselor
isabe
george,
if
you'd
like
to
kick
off
opening
statements
and
to
my
colleagues
that
are
on
if
we
could
again
just
for
brevity
and
because
I
unfortunately
had
to
delay
the
start
of
this.
If
we
could
just
limit
our
opening
statements
to
very
brief
statements
and
then
we'll
go
right
to
to
the
administration's
response.
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
thank
you
to
colleagues
for
being
here,
and
certainly
the
administration
for
being
here
and
their
partnership
and
work
on
this
effort,
which
started
a
number
of
years
ago
with
an
original
filing
of
an
ordinance,
some
significant
modifications
and
a
refiling.
A
A
Almost
more
reflective
of
the
original
original
filing
of
this
ordinance-
and
that
was
this
is
due
to
a
lot
of
detailed
conversation
and,
I
think,
very
thoughtful
thoughtful
conversation
from
the
administration
and
those
that
would
be
overseeing
this
work
and
to
make
sure
that
it's
a
appropriate
and
reflective
of
the
needs
and
also
very
considerate.
I
think
of
the
impacts
that
this
would
have
on
small
businesses,
some
of
the
small
locally
owned
pharmacies
in
the
city
of
boston.
A
I
believe
council
breden
was
on
a
phone
call
and
maybe
stepped
away.
Okay,.
B
Counselor
ed
flynn.
D
Thank
you,
counselor
sabi
george,
for
sponsoring
this
ordinance
and
to
council
edwards
for
sharing
this
working
session.
It
is
important
that
we
have
a
safe
way
to
dispose
of
our
needles
in
chops.
Needles
are
environmental
and
health
hazard
and
when
there
is
no
good
way
of
disposing
them,
there
is
a
risk
to
our
residents.
Children
can
be
pricked
and
harmed
by
them.
I
think
having
a
stewardship
program
for
needle
disposal
is
a
great
idea,
because
shops
are
not
only
used
by
those
who
inject
drugs,
but
also
by
people
with
certain
medical
conditions.
D
B
Thank
you,
councillor
o'malley
nope,
okay,
counselor
mejia,.
C
Yes
good
morning,
thank
you
chair
and
thank
you,
counselor
sabi
george,
for
holding
this
hearing.
I
want
to
take
some
time
to
quickly
highlight
some
of
the
amazing
community
activists
who
have
been
doing
incredible
work
really
hard
around
this
issue.
People
like
leon,
rivera,
jahida
lopez,
domingo
de
la
rosa
and
the
south
end
and
roxbury
residents.
C
They
have
been
doing
weekly
needle
cleanups
for
as
long
as
I
can
remember,
it
goes
back
to
good
lord,
which
just
makes
me
realize
how
long
we've
been
having
this
conversation,
how
long
this
has
been
impacting
our
community
and
back
in
the
90s
as
the
public
health
educator.
I
was
out
having
the
same
conversation,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
participating
in
this
session
and
figuring
out
what
we
can
do
as
a
city
together
to
work
through
this
issue
and
I'm
getting
I'm
excited
to
start.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
So
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
the
administration.
Everyone
should
have
the
modified
ordinance
as
counselor
sabi
george
noted
this
is
a
change
from
what
was
initially
filed.
So
I
not
really
sure
if
you
guys
have
a
order
of
talking
that
you'd
like
to
do
or
is
there
someone
from
the
administration
is
going
to
be
doing
a
majority
of
it
and
there's
folks
here
for
backup.
A
I
imagine
that
we
may
start
with
attorney.
Mccann
he's
been,
I
think,
a
real
partner
and
colleague
in
this
work
since
the
beginning,
and
we
sort
of
reflected
back
together
on
how
we've
sort
of
gone
back
to
the
beginning.
With
this
ordinance
and
I,
if
ma'am
chair,
if
I,
if
I
could
just
say,
I
really
do
appreciate
counselor
flynn's
comments
around
proper
disposal,
and
you
know
I
went
right
into
the
ordinance
itself,
but
council
flynn
brought
up
how
important
it
is
for
our
residents
across
the
city
to
have
access
to
proper
disposal.
A
This
is
certainly
related
to
the
conversation.
We've
had
around
proper
improper
disposal,
thinking
about
those
dealing
with
substance
use
disorders,
but
this
is
really
about
creating
opportunities
for
our
residents
across
the
city,
who
are
dealing
with
diabetes,
requiring
other
sorts
of
shots,
whether
it's
a
b12
shot.
Many
of
our
seniors
have
do
use
a
b12
shot
for
their
health
needs.
If,
if
a,
if
you're
dealing
with
infertility
treatments
you're
using
oftentimes
a
hormone
injection,
those
needles
need
to
be
properly
disposed.
A
We
also
know
too
many
of
our
residents
are
dealing
with
addiction
across
our
city
and
dealing
with
addiction
at
home.
Improper
disposal
is
important.
We
have
less
than
20
needle
kiosks
across
our
city.
I
forget
what
the
number
is
today
and
an
ordinance
like
this
would
get
us
to
a
point
where
we
had
about
a
hundred
kiosks
across
the
city
in
all
of
our
neighborhoods
and
accessible
to
all
of
our
residents.
A
So
I
think
pj
might
be
the
best
person
to
start
with,
if
I
could
so,
if
I
could
say
so
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
Thank
you
ma'am
chair.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
E
F
Thank
you,
okay.
Thank
you.
Good
morning,
chairperson
edwards
and
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
jen
tracy,
the
director
of
the
mayor's
office
of
recovery
services.
Thank
you
for
inviting
us
to
participate
in
this
working
session
on
this
very
important.
As
it
has
been
said,
public
health
and
quality
of
life
issue.
F
F
As
you
know,
urban
centers
all
over
the
country
are
grappling
with
these
quality
of
life
challenges
and
in
boston.
We
have
increased
the
way
we
collect
improperly
disposed
syringes
requiring
all
staff
across
all
programs
to
join
the
effort.
The
main
ways
we
collect
syringes
are
through
active
drug
users,
outreach
and
the
mobile
sharps
team,
neighborhood
kiosks
and
with
our
community
partners.
F
F
F
B
F
A
hope
is
a
leader
providing
critical,
important
work
connecting
active
drug
users
to
treatment
when
they
are
ready
and
provide
services
that
include
hiv,
sti,
testing,
narcan
overdose
prevention
linkages
to
medical
care,
behavioral,
health
and
social
services.
They
also
play
an
important
role
in
preventing
sharps
from
being
improperly
discarded.
F
Last
summer,
with
funding
from
mayor
walsh
and
the
city
council,
we
contracted
for
the
first
time
with
a
biohazard
waste
company
to
collect
sharps
from
all
city
funded
kiosks.
This
has
allowed
the
mobile
sharks
team
more
time
to
respond
to
311
calls
and
proactively
sweep
parks,
schools
and
other
high
traffic
areas.
In
addition,
the
sharps
team
has
increased
from
the
beginning
of
two
full-time
workers
to
six
working
across
seven
days
a
week,
responding
to
three
one
one
calls
and
requests
this
investment
has
allowed
for
quicker
response
time.
F
The
service
continues
to
receive
positive
feedback
from
constituents
across
the
city.
Tracking
the
pickup
locations
has
also
added
to
our
understanding
of
patterns
of
use
for
targeting
outreach
efforts
as
another
part
of
that
expansion.
We
continue
to
increase
the
city,
managed
needle
kiosks
that
are
now
available
in
10
locations.
F
F
The
fy
20
total
of
syringes
collected
from
kiosks
alone
is
100,
is
a
little
over
150
000,
compared
to
a
little
under
50
000
the
year
before.
There
are
also
additional
indoor
kiosk
sites.
In
boston-
and
these
are
managed
by
the
state
department
of
public
health,
which
I
want
to
acknowledge,
has
done
a
great
deal
of
work,
providing
safe
disposal
kiosks
throughout
the
state
and
continues
to
support
the
extension
expansion
of
safe,
syringe
programs
and
overdose
prevention
programs
outside
of
boston
and
throughout
the
state.
F
Sharps
team
is
a
key
member
of
the
city's
coordinated
response
team
and
works
closely
with
the
boston,
public
schools
and
parks
department
to
prioritize
parks
and
school
yards.
A
hope
staff
routinely
conduct
outreach
in
boston
neighborhoods
through
the
commission's
office
of
environmental
health.
We
provide
training
on
safe
sharks,
disposal
to
boston,
public
school
staff,
boston
housing
authority
parks,
department
and
other
agency
staff.
F
We're
also
happy
to
partner
with
councillor
wasabi
george's
needle
take
back
day
the
past
couple
years,
allowing
opportunity
for
our
community
health
centers
to
join
the
effort.
Maintaining
a
system
to
ensure
the
safe
disposal
of
sharps
in
the
city
of
boston
is
an
enormous
undertaking
that
requires
collaborate,
collaboration
across
all
our
city
departments
and
community
partners.
F
The
scope
of
the
investment
in
time
and
effort
to
address
safe
sharps
disposal
speaks
to
the
need
for
upstream
solutions
to
ensure
city-wide
access
to
safe
sharps
disposal
sites.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
you
to
craft
a
workable
policy
solution
to
this
problem.
Thank
you
again
for
the
opportunity
to
continue
this
important
dialogue.
I'm
joined
by
my
colleagues
mentioned
earlier
isd:
chief
of
staff,
christopher
english,
boston,
public
health
commissions,
community
initiatives,
bureau,
director
leon,
duthane
and
deputy
general
counsel,
pj
mccann.
We
welcome
any
questions
you
may
have.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you.
We've
also
been
joined
by
councillor
baker.
Council
breaker
did
you
want
to
any
brief
remarks
to
before
we
go.
B
Okay,
so
so,
if
I
understand
this,
you
wanted
us
to
just
kind
of
break
down
or
go
through
the
ordinance
with
you.
How
was
the
administration?
Did
you
have
any
direct
responses?
I
appreciate
the
breakdown
from
from
jennifer
tracy
about
all
of
the
services.
I
even
more
appreciate
seeing
that
beautiful
little
baby
council
o'malley,
I
love
it,
but
but
I
appreciate
the
breakdown
of
the
city
services.
Thank
you
for
noting
that
they're
instead
of
seven,
we
now
have
ten
kiosks.
It
looks
like
it's
growing
you've
added
staff.
A
Ma'am
chair:
are
you
asking
that
question
of
jen
myself
or
pj
I'm
asking.
B
F
F
I
think
I
think
the
intent
of
providing
more
options
for
for
residents
to
properly
dispose
of
syringes.
We
are
very
much
in
support
of
we
want
to.
You,
know,
work
with
the
council
on
policy
solutions
to
address
this.
B
So,
let's
just
go
and
break
it
down
for
the
language
in
the
in
the
proposed
ordinance,
we're
looking
at
12-1
6.3,
safe
shards
disposal
program.
B
Let's
just
look
at
a
or
the
beginning
all
pharmacies,
as
defined
in
this
section,
which
would
include
cvs,
walgreens,
all
the
local
folks
or
pharmacies
that
they
establish
a
collection
system
to
provide
convenient,
ongoing
collection
services
to
all
persons
seeking
to
dispose
of
unwanted
sharks,
which
shall
include
collection,
kiosks
or
other
safe
and
secure
means
of
collection.
Notwithstanding
the
foregoing,
a
pharmacy
chain
may
present
an
alternative
proposal
for
approval
by
the
department,
in
consultation
with
boston,
public
health
commission
and
I'm
just
kind
of
going
through
it.
B
To
me,
this
language
is,
is
wonderfully
inviting
for
them
to
be
a
partner
either
directly
through
what
we
suggest
that
they
have
their
own
collection
policy
or
that
they
set
up
kiosks
and
enhance
what
the
city
is
doing
so
we'll
go
to
attorney
mccann
on
that
language,
specifically.
E
Yeah
so
that
you're
correct
in
that
you
know
thinking
back
to
earlier
hearings
on
the
topic
we,
you
know,
we
did
hear
from
the
retailers
that
the
lack
of
flexibility
in
the
initial
proposal,
where
they
needed
to
be
on
site
at
each
pharmacy
was
was
sort
of
a
big
stumbling
block.
So
in
our
proposal
we
we're
in
our
conversations
with
with
the
counselor's
office,
we
sort
of
suggested
some
flexibility
here
for
for
sites
that
might
not
be
on
the
on
the
physical
property
of
the
pharmacy.
E
But
the
the
pharmacies
you
know
either
individually
or
as
chains,
could
be
involved
in
in
bringing
those
into
existence
so
that
that
is
sort
of
borrowed
from
other
jurisdictions
that
have
that
have
gone
down
this
path,
a
lot
of
jurisdictions,
sort
of
have
different
formulas
depending
on
the
population
of
the
county
and
the
number
of
pharmacies,
and
we
sort
of
defer
on
the
specifics
there.
But
the
general
idea
of
being
able
to
pay
into
an
alternative
system
is
something
that
has
been
has
been
brought
into
reality
elsewhere.
A
Certainly,
you
know
the
hope
is
to
have
a
balanced
approach.
The
hope
is
to
make
sure
that
we
put
into
practice.
You
know
because
on
paper
it's
always
one
thing
and
then,
as
we
sort
of
enact
it,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it
it
is
practical
and
makes
sense
one
of
the
pieces-
that's
really
important
to
us
and
some
of
the
edits
to
some
of
the
suggestions
to
the
the
ordinance
as
re-drafted,
in
partnership
with
the
administration,
to
speak
to
the
the
comment
and
question
around
support.
A
This
redrafted
version
that
we're
discussing
today
is
done
in
partnership
with
the
administration,
and
I
think
that
that
should
indicate
a
tremendous
amount
of
support
for
this
effort.
We
do.
I
do
want
all
pharmacies
to
participate
in
this
and
think
that
it's
really
important
when
we
think
about
distribution
across
our
city,
that
that's
really
important
and
if
we
reflect
back
on
drug
take-back,
kiosks
in
the
and
now
pharmacies
doing
drug
take-back
across
the
board.
That
was
a
difficult
sort
of
battle
to
to
happen,
and
now
it's
just
part
of
regular
practice.
A
I
think
that
doing
this
in
partnership
with
our
pharmacies,
especially
our
large
chain,
retail
pharmacies
across
the
city
of
boston,
will
actually
lead
to
a
statewide
effort.
There's
been
conversations
on
the
state
level
to
make
this
happen.
Ideally
it
would
have
already
happened
at
the
state
level,
but
that
process
has
been
slow.
This
is
you
know,
really.
My
hope
is
we
just
do
it
ourselves
and
they'll
eventually
follow
suit,
but
the
flexibility
is
also
important
too,
because
we
do
need
opportunities
in
other
places.
A
I
will
say
some
of
the
edits
that
we've
come
up
with
in
that
12-16.3
in
a
the
second
sentence,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
in
the
copy,
if
we
sent
you
some
of
our
edits
and
our
suggested
edits,
but
the
collection,
kiosks
or
other
means
of
collection
must
be.
We
really
want
them
on
site
and
easily
accessible
and
and
invisible
locations
for
patrons
to
the
pharmacy.
A
But
if
a
pharmacy
wanted
to,
for
instance,
suggest
that
the
kiosk
could
be
on
the
curb
if
there
was
enough
curb
space
for
a
drive
up
method
or
something
like
that,
I'd
be
more
than
excited
to
entertain
that,
as
it
might
even
be
more
easy
or
easier
for
a
resident
to
to
drop
off
to
drop
off
into
into
the
kiosk.
You
know
one
of
the
concerns.
That's
come
up
a
number
of
times,
and
you
know
it's
just
that
creating
of
the
partnership
and
others
to
do
the
work.
A
Our
our
pharmacies,
for
example,
are
required
to
sell
needles
individually
sharps,
but
also
they
sell
them
as
part
of
a
prescription.
If
it's
for
a
you
know
a
diet,
an
insulin
or
something
of
that
nature,
so
they
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
take
back
used
sharps
as
well.
B
Just
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
shortly,
but
I
would
like-
and
this
could
go
to
the
sponsor
or
to
the
administration
general
curiosity.
How
much
does
these
are
three
three
questions?
How
much
does
a
kiosk
normally
cost?
B
Also
was
there
a
was
there
a
minimum
size
for
the
pharmacies
that
you
were
thinking
of
and
then
finally,
I'm
curious
about
the
capacity?
I
think
this
question
would
go
to
leon
specifically
for
the
boston
public
health
commission
to
enforce
this.
So
those
are
my
three
questions.
Then
I
will
go
to
councillor
braden.
A
Does
depend,
I
know,
maybe
leon
does
have
it,
I'm
sorry,
it
does
really
depend
on
the
size
and
the
the
use,
so
the
ones
that
the
city
puts
up
the
big
metal
sort
of
look
like
mailboxes,
pretty
heavy
duty.
Those
are
certainly
more
expensive
than
a
smaller
kiosk
or
a
smaller
bin
that
it
that
could
be
one
alternative
is
something
that
attaches
to
the
side
of
the
drug.
I
Oh
you're,
you're
you're,
absolutely
right
counselor
I
mean
they.
They
range
from
from
2000
to
up
to
three
thousand
dollars
per
kiosk
and
it
that
that
usually
includes
making
sure
that
there's
a
a
way
to
secure
them
to
the
ground,
and
so
depending
on
where
the
location
is,
they
may
have
to
pour
a
concrete
kind
of
like
a
concrete
pad,
so
they
can
sit
on
and
be
secure.
I
So
that's
one
yeah,
so
I
mean
like
for
for
the
company
that
we
use
for
for
for
our
environmental
company
they
sell
them
and
and
and
the
ones
we
got
there.
They
run
pretty
much
around
three
thousand
dollars.
Okay,.
I
So
so,
what
we're
thinking
on
on
the
enforcement
side
is
so
if
pharmacy
will
send
the
boston
public
health
commission
sort
of
like
a
kiosk
safety
plan,
basically
suggesting
where
the
location
of
the
kiosk
would
be.
We
would
look
at
that
and
also
look
at
what
what
they're,
using
as
a
disposal
company,
because
you
know,
of
course
you
know
sharps-
need
to
be
disposed
of.
I
You
know
in
accordance
with
the
state
and
federal
regulations,
so
we
would
review
that,
and
chris
can
talk
about
inspectional
services.
They
would
provide
the
enforcement
sure.
J
You
know
it,
I
think,
shows
a
real
partnership
between
the
two
agencies
here,
where
reviewing
the
site
plans
and
things
like
proposals
would
fall
under
public
health
and
then,
as
the
inspection
and
enforcement
agency,
isd
inspectors
would
be
tasked
with
visiting
the
site
to
ensure
compliance
and
in
cases
of
non-compliance
with
the
ordinance
be
able
to
issue
violations
in
terms
of
monetary
fines.
J
So
we
have
inspectors
that
are
out
inspecting
pharmacies
in
terms
of
scales
and
registers,
as
well
as
price
verification,
so
adding
on
a
additional
component
to
their
inspection,
wouldn't
necessarily
require
additional
resources.
It
would
be,
as
we
see
it,
an
additional
component
to
the
work
that
they're
already
doing
there.
B
D
Thank
you,
council
edwards.
I
don't
have
any
questions.
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
the
great
work
of
jen
tracy
and
her
team
on
this
very
difficult
and
challenging
issue.
I
see
them
working
hard
every
day
and
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
their
professionalism
and
hard
work.
C
Yes,
thank
you.
So
I
have
a
quick
question
for
jen
and
you
mentioned
that
you
have
received
positive
feedback
regarding
the
needles
program.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
what,
where
you've
gone,
what
kind
of
feedback
you've
gotten
so
far?
I'm
actually
I'm
asking
this
because
I
think
feedback,
a
dashboard
component
to
this
ordinance
may
be
a
good
way
for
us
to
track
the
success
of
each
proposal.
So
there's
a
way
for
us
to
have
a
dashboard
where
there's
feedback
coming
in
that
we
can
share
it
publicly.
So
I'm
just
curious.
F
So
sure,
thank
you
for
that
question.
So
I'm
referring
to
the
mobile
sharks
team,
which
has
been
in
operation
for
the
past
five
years,
so
the
positive
feedback
that
we
get
from
the
community
that
utilizes
3-1-1
for
mobile
sharks
pickup
has
been
that
the
team
is
very
fast-acting,
very
responsive
to
on
the
3-1-1
calls.
So
that's
typically
the
feedback
that
we
get
when
we
do.
You
know
community,
walk-arounds
or,
and
that
type
of
work
and-
and
did
you
have
another
question
sorry
that
was
that
was.
C
F
Oh
the
dashboard
I
just
wanted
to
mention,
so
we
did
as
part
of
mass
cast
2.0
the
mayor's
plan.
There
is
a
public
website
now
that
does
have
some
sharps
information
on
it,
certainly
not
exhaustive,
and
would
love
to
hear
your
feedback
and
happy
to
send
the
link
to
the
group.
C
And
I'm
just
curious,
and
this
this
particular
initiative
would
be
counselors.
Happy
george
for
pharmacies
to
to
get
the
sharpies
is
that
something.
A
So
the
shops
would
be
returned
to
pharmacies
as
many
shops
are
either
purchased
directly
or
or
purchased
as
part
of
a
prescription
from
pharmacies
across
the
city
of
boston.
So
would.
C
They
would
they
be,
would
they
be
there
and
also
responsible
and
open
to
taking
needles
from
just
anyone.
A
There's
no
yeah,
there's
no
restriction
with
needle
take
back.
You
don't
have
to
show
proof
of
purchase,
or
it's
just
another
location
in
which
to
return
them,
because
they
are
also
available
at
pharmacies
and
it
is,
it
is,
what's
been
tried
in
other
parts
of
the
country,
and
pharmacies
become
a
great
point
of
contact
for
any
individual.
As
you
know,
you
imagine,
if
you
are,
if
you
have
a
chronic
illness,
you
have
diabetes
or
you
filling
a
prescription
for
fertility
treatments
for
injectables,
and
you
are
going
to
fill
your
prescription.
A
It
is
logical
to
also
dispose
of
your
used
needles
because
they
do
have
to
be
properly
disposed
of.
They're,
not
needles,
should
not
any
sharps
should
not
be
put
in
household
trash.
Shops
should
not
be
flushed
on
toilets.
Sharp
should
not
be
put.
Obviously
in
public
trash
and
proper
disposal
is
really
important,
and
pharmacies
are
a
very
logical
place
for
for
that
disposal.
C
To
happen,
thank
you
for
that,
and
then
I
just
have
a
few
general
questions
about
the
ordinance
overall.
I'm
councillor,
edwards
and
I'll
be
really
quick.
I'm
just
curious
about
how
can
we
about
activating
local,
non-profits
and
community
groups
in
this
process?
Would
they
be
consulted
when
manufacturers
present
their
plans?
I'm
just
also
curious
in
general,
in
terms
of
the
ordinance
states
that
part
of
the
stewardship
plan
includes
a
public
outreach
component.
How
will
we
make
sure
that
that
public
outreach
respects
cultural
competency?
C
Will
it
be
available?
Obviously
you
know
I'm
always
going
to
ask
about
multiple
languages,
just
curious
about
the
rollout,
and
this
is
kind
of
more
of
a
clarifying
question.
Will
there
ever
be
a
circumstance
where
a
manufacturer
could
contract
out
the
disposable
of
sharps
and
if
that's
the
case,
is
there
an
opportunity
for
us
to
be
intentional
about
requiring
contracting
to
businesses
of
color
and
then
the
last
is,
and
for
this
ordinance
is
there
a
way
for
applicants
to
receive
feedback
on
their
applications?
C
B
Thank
you.
Those
are
excellent
questions,
so,
let's
start
with
the
since
we're
following
in
the
process,
and
they
would
have
to
submit
plans.
Let's
start
with
public
feedback,
as
counselor
mejia
is
particularly
concerned
about
those
applications
come
into
the
city,
then,
beyond
the
city
two
agencies
mentioned,
who
else
gets
to
see
those
applications
and
provide
feedback.
E
I
see
right
now
in
in
the
drafting,
there's
nothing
preventing
further
engagement
with
the
community
after
plans
come
in
and
the
the
draft,
I
think,
also
includes
some
language
about
rulemaking.
E
If,
if
isd
or
bphc,
in
conjunction
with
isd,
want
to
put
out
additional
guidance
about,
you
know
about
how
those
the
community
outreach
happens
and
what
happens
when
once
we
get
the
plan,
so
I
think
there's
certainly
room
within
the
current
draft
for
both
of
those
two
two
issues
to
be
addressed
and
obviously,
there's
also
still
flexibility
within
the
draft
of
the
actual
language,
but
certainly
nothing
within
this
draft
that
that
prevents
both
of
those
two
issues
being
addressed.
A
Yeah
absolutely,
and
I
think
that
the
community
could
also
be
involved
in
some
of
the
education
requirements.
So
right
now,
when,
if
you
are
picking
up,
for
example,
your
insulin
prescription
that
came
with
sharps,
there
should
be-
and
usually,
if
you
know
anyone
recalls
sort
of
the
process
when
they
go
to
a
pharmacy.
To
pick
up
a
prescription
is
any
questions
about
this
click.
You
know,
and
the
answer
is
typically
or
the
responses.
I
think
very
typically,
no
and
you
just
sort
of
know
no.
A
No
on
the
touch
pad
there
would
be
a
requirement
for
education
around
proper
disposal,
because,
right
now
we
do
know
that
there's
a
general
ex,
it's
generally
accepted
that
you
can
take
your
shops
and
put
them
into
a
coffee,
can
or
a
detergent
bottle
tape
it
shut
and
throw
it
away.
That
is
improper
disposal.
So
we
really
want
to
push
and
promote
proper
education
around
proper
disposal,
and
that
would
include
bringing
back
your
sharps
in
a
safe
container
to
be
disposed
of
appropriately
at
the
pharmacy,
but
certainly
open
to
to
all
of
those
modifications.
B
About
how
and
I
think
that's
it's
incredible-
the
idea
also
is
monitoring
where
there's
suddenly
a
concentration
of
of
needles
and
being
deposited
into
the
kiosk
that
those
kiosks
you
find
are
near
certain
playgrounds
right
or
not,
but
pharmacies
that
are
near
those
playgrounds
are
in
certain
concentration,
community
and
areas.
I
think
a
dashboard
component
being
able
to
have
data
perpetually
out
there
and
being
kept
about
where
they're
being
disposed,
how
much
so
on
and
so
forth.
Council
me
have,
I
kind
of
gotten
your
dashboard
question,
correct.
A
Yeah
I
mean
we
can
certainly
ask
and
I'm
open
to
recording
data
as
submitted
by
pharmacies
on
the
amounts
of
sharps
that
they're
they're
receiving
or
disposing
of
most
of
that's
done
on.
That's
all
done
based
on
weight,
it's
not
needle
for
needle
counting
and
the
other
thing.
I
would
just
caution,
though,
around
the
efficacy
of
that
data
is
the
or
the
credibility
of
that
data
is
depending
on
how
a
kiosk
might
be
situated
the
more
easily
accessible.
That
kiosk
is
the
more
it
may
be
utilized.
A
So,
for
example,
if
it's,
if
it's
in
within
eyesight
of
the
pharmacist
there
is,
you
know,
oftentimes
a
lot
of
stigma
attached
to
needle
disposal.
Thinking
that
it's
you
know,
there's
a
stigma
attached
to
needle
disposal.
So
if
it's
within
eyesight,
we
may
see
lower
rates
of
of
use
of
that
kiosk.
If
it's
at
the
front
door,
there
may
be
I'm
and
I'm
making
an
assumption
based.
A
I
think,
on
some
realistic
outlooks,
it
may
be
a
little
bit
more
used
and
if
it
were
something
that
was
in
much
more
publicly
accessible,
it
may
even
be
more
utilized.
So
I
would
just
caution
on
sort
of
the
the
credibility
of
certain
data
points,
depending
on
actual
location
of
any
particular
kiosk.
A
Yeah,
absolutely,
I
think
it
is
important
to
understand
where,
where
needle
waste
sharp
sharp
waste
is
coming
from,
but
also
hesitating
to
make
judgment
about
the
use
of
those
shops.
A
You
know
cats
have
diabetes,
for
example,
and
so
many
of
our
residents
and
through
some
of
our
hearings
over
the
years
had
heard
from
residents
who
had
hundreds
of
needles
saved
for
because
they
had
diabetes
or
a
pet
had
diabetes
or
they
required
fertility
treatments.
And
you
know
they
had
these
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
sharps
and
during
our
citywide
needle
take
back
day
that
jen
mentioned,
and
thank
you
to
the
administration
and
the
health
commission
for
their
support
through
the
needles
take
back
day.
We
had
sort
of
anecdotal
stories
and
we
sort
of
collected.
A
We
collected
those
stories
throughout
the
day
on
why
people
had
these
needles
and
we
had
one
resident
that
had
returned
needles
that
that
they
had
that
that
were
14
years
old
and
they
were
stalking,
storing
them
in
the
basement
because
they
knew
it
wasn't
appropriate
to
just
throw
them
away
but
14
years,
because
their
children
were
14
years
old
and
they
had
used
the
needles
for
infertility,
treatments.
B
Counselor
sabi
george,
just
going
on
with
the
other
questions,
and
this
could
go
the
administration
as
well.
How
do
we
assure
that,
if
they
were
to
contract
or
subcontract
this
particular
service,
that
these
companies
are
are
sure
to
contract,
locally
or
sort
of
contract
with
businesses
of
color?
B
Might
I
suggest
that
we
require
them
to
disclose
who
they
would,
if
they're
gonna
third-party
contract
out,
and
they
have
to
disclose
that
at
the
very
beginning
and
that
they
prioritize
local
businesses
and
communities
of
color?
For
that
in
this
ordinance.
A
We
can
ask
that
through
the
disposal
plan,
I'm
certain-
I
don't
know
how
how
prescriptive,
or
can
we
mandate
private
enterprise
to
use
a
specific,
specific
vendor
or
parameters
around
that
vendor?
I'm
not
sure
if,
where,
if
we
could
do
that,.
B
Right
so
then,
then,
that's
where
I
think
having
the
community
as
counselor
mickey
has
noted
at
the
table
to
say
you
know
reviewing
that
plan
they
could
be
telling
the
the
vendor
or
telling
the
city
there's
all
these
other
options,
non-profit
partnerships
you
could
have
worked
with
and
in
terms
of
being
able
to
tell
them
what
to
do.
B
You
know
we
have.
We
do
mandate
with
construction,
jobs
right
certain
level
of
payroll
services
and
diversity
and
looking
at
our
boston,
resident
jobs
policy,
we
do
that
now
and
those
are
private
contractors.
So
are
you
amendable
to
some
okay?
B
B
Counselor
mejia,
I
think
I
hit
the
nonprofit
consultants
stewardship
and
outreach
circumstances
the
disposal
contract
the
dashboard
and
feedback.
Those
were
your
questions.
I
think
I
hit
them.
C
B
B
B
I
see
we
counselor
o'malley
and
counselor
braden
have
come.
I
called
you
before
so
if,
if
you
mind,
I
can
go
back
in
order
and
and
just
get
counselor
braden
and
then
council
o'malley
thank.
H
You,
madam
chair,
I
apologize,
I
had
to
jump
off
for
another
call.
I
will
catch
up
on
the
vid
on
the
on
the
recorded
video.
I
really
I
want
to
thank
council
councillors
sami
george
for
this
initiative.
It's
really
hugely
important
and
I'm
interested
just
that.
The
few
minutes
I've
been
listening,
I'm
very
excited
with
the
potential
of
this
to
really
offer
a
very
important
service
and
needle
disposal
and
which
will
will
will
have
benefits
across
the
board
for
many
many
families
and
and
folks
in
the
neighborhoods.
H
The
only
question
I
had
maybe
and
admit
I
apologize
if
this
has
already
been
talked
about,
but
partnership
with
their
community
health,
centers
and
in
terms
of
education
and
outreach
to
different
communities-
is
that
on
the
that's
it's
probably
happening
already.
But
since
this
is
a
new
initiative,
it
might
be
important.
B
Councillor
mejia
and
counselor
sabi
george
had
addressed
that
as
potentially
one
of
the
amendments
to
the
the
process
allowing
for
them
to
be
at
the
table
to
review
the
applications,
but
also
that
we
will
have
to
look
to
community
organizations
for
education
and
outreach
as
well
and
making
sure
that
cost
really
culturally
competent,
as
councilmember
noted
to
make
sure
people
are
just
generally
educated
about
how
to
dispose
needles.
I'm
learning
I'm
learning
really
for
the
first
time
how
it's
supposed
to
be
done,
but
I
don't
have
you
know
diabetes.
B
G
No
real
questions
other
than
to
again
thank
the
lead
sponsor
con
society.
George
and
you,
madam
chair
for
just
staying,
focused
on
this
incredibly
important
issue.
Thank
you
for
the
administration.
G
Obviously,
this
is,
I
think,
we're
all
rowing
in
the
same
direction
and
having
opportunities
like
this,
where
we
can
check
in
with
one
another
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
as
effective
and
robust
in
a
process
and
drafting
different
policies
and
procedures
as
it
relates
to
this,
we
don't
need
to.
We
all
know
it's
happening
in
every
neighborhood,
just
discarded
needles
around.
We
know
the
public
safety.
We
also
know
the
behind
that
discarded.
G
Needle
is
someone
who
is
battling
addiction,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
help
them
get
the
help
and
support
that
they
need
it's.
It's
really
funny
not
funny
it's.
It's
noteworthy
that
one
of
my
first
hearing
orders
I
did
back
in
2011
was
establishing
prescription
drug
drop-offs.
G
We
had
a
friend
who
works
for
the
public
health
commission
over
in
the
town
of
arlington,
and
she
talked
about
how
arlington
had
taken
some
refurbished
mailboxes
and
used
those
as
a
way
that
folks
could
just
get
rid
of
unused
prescriptions
because
you
know
otherwise
they
would
expire.
There's.
Of
course,
I
think
the
most
frightening
thing
would
be
the
ask
the
the
worry
that
folks
would
abuse
those
that,
for
whom
they
weren't
prescribed
people
would
sometimes
just
flush
them
down
the
toilet,
there's
a
bad
environmental
impact.
G
So
I
think
that
this
is
just
you
know.
These
are
the
type
of
issues
that
we're
working
on
as
a
city.
They're,
not
gonna,
garner
front
page
headlines,
but
it's
a
really
really
important
public
health
piece,
public
safety
piece
quality
of
life
piece.
So
I
commend.
I
commend
counselors,
abby,
george
and
and
all
the
folks
on
this
zoom
for
their
great
work
and
stand
ready,
willing
and
able
to
help
make
this
as
effective
a
policy
as
as
possible.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you.
Thank
you.
All.
B
B
We
got
a
lot
of
work
done,
so
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
everyone
who
showed
up,
but
just
for
myself
and
for
the
for
the
lead
sponsor
to
go
back
and
to
get
to
even
more
work,
and
I
do
want
to
commend
and
thank
the
administration
what
you,
what
we
opened
up,
counselor
sabi
george,
opened
up
with
noting
that
you
guys
had
worked
incredibly
well
together
on
this,
but
so
then
buckets
left
to
still
make
sure
that
get
into
this
is
looking
at
the
community
involvement.
B
Two
areas:
the
review
of
the
application
in
education,
the
dashboard
component
data
collecting
third-party
contracting
and
again
you
know
just
to
look
it's
open
to
it.
What
we
can
and
can't
do
those
are
the
three
things
I
see.
One
other
question
I
had:
if
it's
not
already
done,
could
we
put
it
in
here
the
kiosk
themselves?
Do
they
have
800
numbers
or,
if
you're
facing
addiction
or
any
kind
of
information
on
the
kiosk
physically,
so
that
folks
would
know
that?
A
I
mean
I'm
absolutely
open
to
exploring
that.
I
think
that
there
are
certain
board
of
health
and
board
of
pharmacy
requirements
around
marking
those
kiosks
with
appropriate,
like
biohazard
symbols.
There
are
certain
requirements
around
that.
My
one,
you
know
my
my
initial
reaction
is
yes
that
I
think,
is
a
fantastic
idea
and
suggestion.
A
My
second
reaction
is,
I
don't
want
to
create
additional
stigma
to
you
to
using
and
utilizing
the
kiosks.
So
I
think
it's
you
know.
The
kiosks
right
now
are
painted
bright
red.
I
think
that's
the
generally
that
the
color
that
they're
painted
plus
the
biohazard
symbol
and
again
there
was
some
stigma
attached
to
attached
to
those
identifiers,
and
I
think
that
it
deserves
certainly
more
conversation
and
reflection
again,
not
something
that
I'm
opposed
to,
but
do
want
to
make
sure
that
these
are
that
accessing
these
kiosks
is
sort
of
the
least
restrictive.
A
Yeah,
no,
I
think
it's,
I
think
it's
it's
great
any
any
opportunity
and
touch
point
in
which
we
can
try
to
encourage
our
neighbors
to
get
help
to
get
support
to
find
recovery.
That's
really
really
important,
but
again
I
do.
I
do
sort
of
want
to
be
mindful
around
sort
of
the
added
layers
that
may
disenfranchise
or
disincentivize
an
individual
from
utilizing.
The
kiosks
agreed.
B
Agreed-
and
I
think
that's
actually,
you
know
again
her
counselor
michi
is,
you
know,
pushed
to
have
the
community
there.
They
could
really
help
with.
You
know
the
you
know:
location
churches,
all
these
different
places
that
we're
not
thinking
of
right
now
they
would
help
to
push
where
that
you
know
break
down
stigma,
but
also
include
communities.
So
I'm
really
excited
about
this.
I
think
this
is
something
that
we
we
can
and
should
do.
B
I
look
forward
to
you
know
getting
some
of
these
things
in
and
getting
some
language
back
out
for
colleagues
to
look
at,
but
I
just
want
to
in
advance
say
congrats
to
counselor
salvi
george.
This
is
really
awesome
and
thank
you
for
your
leadership.
B
So
to
my
colleagues,
if
you
have
any
concluding
remarks,
please
raise
your
blue
hands.
I
can
just
call
you
out,
but
if
you'd
like,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
went
through-
I
I
don't
have.
Unless
there's
other
questions,
I
think
we
have
our
marching
orders.
A
I
don't
know
if
anyone
from
the
administration
has
additional
comments
to
share
and
madam
chairs
just
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
anyone
for
public
testimony.
I
don't
have.
I
didn't,
have
anyone
registered
myself,
but
there
is
somebody
in
the
I
have
a
tailor.
A
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure.
If
that's
just
a
someone.
A
But
if
any,
I
don't
know
if
anyone
from
the
administration
has
any
other
comments
or
anything
else
to
add.
C
B
B
Yeah,
I
am,
I
don't,
have
a
clarity,
so
I'm
gonna
I'll
I'll
go
ahead
and
promote
to
allow
to
talk.
At
least
they.
A
Is
taylor
I
was
just
listening
on,
I
don't
have
any
any
any
testimony.
Thank
you.