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Docket #0452 - Message and order changing the date of the Preliminary Election for this municipal year from September 21, 2021 to September 14, 2021
A
E
E
A
F
A
All
right,
good
morning,
everyone,
I'm
city,
councilor,
lydia,
edwards,
chair
of
the
committee
on
government
operations.
It's
tuesday
april
20th
2021
we're
here
today
for
virtual
clearing
on
docket
zero,
four
five
two
message
and
order
changing
the
date
of
the
preliminary
election
for
this
municipal
year
from
september
21st
2021
to
september
14
2021..
A
This
matter
is
sponsored
by
former
martin
j.
Excuse
me,
former
mayor
martin,
j
walsh,
who
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
march
24
2021.,
in
accordance
with
governor
baker's
march
12th
executive
order
were
modifying
certain
requirements
of
the
open
meeting
law
and
allowing
us
to
have
this
hearing
on
zoom,
while
at
the
same
time
allowing
us
excuse
me
in
order
to
balance
the
public
safety
and
needs
of
the.
A
At
the
moment
the
public
may
watch
this
hearing
via
live
stream
at
www.boston.gov
city
dash
council
dash
tv
and
on
xfinity
8
rcna
2,
verizon
964..
This
will
also
be
re-broadcasted
at
a
later
date.
Written
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
email
at
ccc.go
boston.gov
and
will
be
made
a
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors.
If
you
would
like
to
offer
public
comments
and
have
not
signed
up
to
do
so,
please
email,
christine.com
at
boston.gov,
quick
description,
as
indicated
by
the
title:
zero
docket,
zero.
Four
five
two
is
a
whole
petition.
A
Oh
I'm
sorry
is
it
a
homo
petition?
I
think
that,
maybe
no
it's
it's
it's
a
it's
a
petition
that
would
move
the
date
of
the
preliminary
election
to
september
14th.
The
seventh
tuesday
preceding
a
general
election
in
the
transmittal
letter
former
mayor,
indicated
that,
because
of
the
expansion
of
vote
by
mail
to
include
fall
elections,
time
frame
for
certifying
election
results
in
the
election
department's
requirement
to
hold
a
ballot
position
drawing
the
original
date
of
september
21st
would
create
a
challenge
for
the
for
the
printing
and
distribution
of
vote
by
mail
ballots.
A
Former
mayor
mayor
walsh
stated
that
it
would
be
prudent
to
move
the
date
of
the
primary
election
to
september
14th,
because
of
these
reasons,
daca0452
is
is
again
check
again.
I'm
sorry.
If
it's
a
homo
petition,
I
thought
it
was
not.
Madam
chair
is
not.
It
is
not
a
home
rule
petition.
My
these
are
my
notes.
My
apologies.
A
This
is
just
a
the
election
department
under
former
mayor
walsh
is
asking.
Let
me
move
this
docket
so
as
a
result,
in
order
to
follow
legal
statutory
procedure,
we're
going
to
hear
from
the
election
department
and
then
make
sure
that
we
are
able
to
move,
or
at
least
see
the
reasons
why
we
need
to
move
this
up
a
week
if
it
actually
does
make
a
difference
in
terms
of
the
turnaround
on
the
ballots.
A
That's
going
to
be
part
of
this
conversation
as
well,
so
I
I'm
just
now
turning
on
to
see
the
calendar
to
see
who's
joined
us
just
to
make
sure
I'm
clear.
I
know
we've
been
joined
by
counselor
counselor,
michael
flaherty,
also
counselor
bach,
and
let's
see
and
counsel
and
counselor
andrea
campbell.
So
right
now
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
my
colleagues
for
some
brief
opening
remarks
and
then
we're
going
to
get
down
to
business.
Thank
you.
B
B
So
in
order
to
follow
the
legal
statutory
procedure,
the
city
must
proceed
under
the
home
repetition
process
in
order
to
adopt
that
change,
so
the
city
does
have
the
authority
to
change
the
date
of
the
preliminary
election
under
mass
general
laws.
Chapter
54,
section,
103
p.
That
said
for
me,
just
in
my
opening.
It's
just
that
you
know.
Why
do
we
need
to
do
this
and
what
would
happen
if
we
didn't
move
the
date
and
as
a
father
of
four,
I
often
say,
don't
put
off
until
tomorrow?
B
What
you
can
do
today?
So
I
would
really
be
looking
to
hear
forward
from
from
the
election
to
prime
minister
what
that
additional
week
would
mean
in
terms
of
their
efforts
preparing
us
for
the
general
election.
So
is
it
something
we
could
do
in
the
current
existing
time
frame,
or
is
this
additional
week
necessary
to
accomplish
that
task?
So
that's
it
for
me
and
look
forward
to
hearing
the
testimony
appreciate
it.
E
E
E
E
At
the
same
time,
I
think,
like
we
all
know
our
elections
department
does
amazing
work.
They've
done
incredible
work
in
this
pandemic.
We
want
them
to
be
able
to
be
successful.
We
want
them
to
be
able
to
be
successful
in
the
context
of
expanded,
no
excuse
absentee
voting
and
mail
and
voting,
and
so
I'm
really
looking
similarly
to
hear
from
them
about
the
logistics
of
what's
necessary
here
and
I'll.
Also
just
echo
counselor
clarity
that
I
had
originally
thought
wait.
E
Why
is
it
that
we
could
do
this
without
a
home
rule
petition
and
then
similarly
had
found
that
there
is
this,
this
state
law
that
gives
us
specifically
the
right
to
change
the
date
without
doing
a
charter
amendment,
whereas
for
other
aspects
of
our
of
our
procedure-
and
I
know
that
you
referenced
some
advocacy
on
that
front.
Other
things
in
our
charter
about
how
signatures
are
gathered
and
stuff
would
involve
a
home
rule
petition,
but
I
understand
that
this
would
not
so
thank
you
so
much.
Madam
chair.
A
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
sorry,
for
my
my
throat
to
being
a
little,
I'm
I'm
sick,
so
I'm
dealing
with
that
so
I'll
limit.
My
words
here
I
this
is
something
that
we've
been
working
on
as
an
office
for
the
last
couple
months
with
the
secretary
of
state's
office
in
conversation
with
mr
pima
and
say
in
terms
of
how
we
make
these
elections
the
most
accessible
possible,
especially
considering
the
pandemic
and
there'll,
be
some
home
rule.
G
Petitions
coming
from
my
office
this
week
that
we're
filing
and
we're
finalizing
we've
been
working
with
several
offices
in
terms
of
the
secretary
of
state
and
the
elections
department
on
these.
The
one
part
that
has
been
tricky
for
me
on
this
is
is
actually
the
changing
of
the
election
date.
The
reason
why
this
has
come
up
and
I've
spoken
to
the
elections
department
has
spoken
to
the
secretary
of
state
is
so
that
we
can
accommodate
mail-in
voting.
G
However,
to
my
knowledge,
boston
is
not
currently
able
to
mail
and
vote
on
this
actual
election,
and
so
this
would
pave
the
way.
I
guess
to
the
ability
for
us
to
do
mail-in
voting,
but
it
doesn't
guarantee.
We
have
mail-in
voting
if
an
hrp
for
mail-in
voting
or
the
state
legislature
doesn't
adjust.
That
date
is
my
understanding,
and
so
my
hope
is
that
we
see
that
happen,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
suggested
and
I'm
sure
mr
pimante,
who
is
on
this
call,
will
will
attest.
G
Is
I've
debated
if
we
for
the
same
reasons
that
councilor
bach
rose
in
terms
of
people
having
access
to
vote?
I've
never
been
a
fan
of
giving
them
less
time.
I've
always
been
a
fan
of
giving
them
more
time.
There's
nothing.
You
know.
I
know
that
it's
a
traditional
thing,
but
there's
nothing
that
says.
If
we're
gonna
move
the
election
date,
we
can't
move
the
general
back
a
week
to
accommodate
the
same
time
frame
rather
than
moving
the
primary
upper
week.
G
It's
something
I've
struggled
with
in
terms
of
what
makes
the
most
sense
to
accommodate
this,
and
so
I'm
happy
to
hear
conversation
as
to
why
this
specific
decision
and
why
we
believe
this
is
the
best
way
to
accommodate
that
time
frame
for
mail-in
voting,
because
this
is
the
one
aspect
of
the
election
package.
Essentially,
that'll
be
coming
this
week
or
that'll
be
filed
this
week.
G
A
H
A
Thank
you.
So
we
also
are
joined
here
today
by,
as
I
mentioned,
the
administration
and
also
patrick
rowe,
who
is
an
advocate
for
safe
election
processes
in
this
pandemic
and
also
has
been
working
on
and
helped
support
the
resolution
that
we
we
supported
last
time
for
a
safer
form
of
signature
gathering.
A
So
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
I
see
we've
been
joined
by
counselor
julia
mejia,
I'm
going
to
now
turn
it
over
to
anita
tavares
from
the
city
to
talk
about
the
city's
position
and
then
patrick
can
go
and
then
we'll
go
to
questions
as
a
just
a
quick
house
cleaning
note
I
am
going
to
do
a
previously
scheduled
personal
appointment.
I'm
going
to
turn
this
hearing
over
to
counselor
flaherty
at
12
o'clock,
so.
E
C
Good
morning,
counselor,
edwards
and
committee
members,
thank
you
for
holding
the
session
today.
My
name
is
inada
tavares,
I'm
the
chair
of
the
board
of
election
commissioners.
We
are
here
today
to
discuss
the
possibility
of
changing
the
date
of
this
year's
preliminary
municipal
election
from
tuesday
september
21st
2021
to
tuesday
september
14th
september.
2021..
C
Last
month
the
legislature
voted
to
expand
vote
by
mail
through
june
31st
2021
should
vote,
but
vote
by
mail
be
further
expanded
to
include
the
fall
elections.
The
department
will
be
faced
with
a
very
tight
turnaround
between
september
and
november
for
the
printing
and
distribution
of
any
vote
by
mail
ballots
requested
by
voters
ballots
for
the
november.
Election
cannot
be
printed
until
the
certification
of
the
preliminary.
C
The
preliminary
municipal
election
results
has
taken
place
and
that
date
would
be
september
27th,
provided
that
there
are
no
petitions
for
a
recount
filed
and
then
that
date
would
be
followed
by
a
ballot
position,
drawing
which
can
take
place
as
early
as
september
28th,
and
it's
only
after
the
september
28th
date.
Can.
C
A
For
you,
thank
you.
We've
also
been
joined
by
councillor
o'malley,
so
I'm
gonna
just
quickly
turn
it
over
to
patrick.
If
you
have
some
brief
opening
remarks
and
then
we're
gonna
go
through
again,
patrick
is
here
just
discussing
safe
signature
gathering.
This
is,
I
want
to
be
clear.
I
did
tell
the
elections
department
that
he
would
patrick
would
be
here.
This
is
not
an
opposition.
This
is
just
literally
to
make
sure
that
we're
having
a
conversation
about
this
as
well.
We
figured
that
the
two
could
happen
at
the
same
time,
so
patrick.
I
Great
great,
thank
you
so
much
counselor
edwards
thanks
the
full
council
for
for
having
me
on
briefly
I'll,
just
I'll.
Just
briefly
introduce
myself
on
the
subject.
I
know
we
talked
about
it
at
the
council
hearing
last
week
as
council
edwards
mentioned,
I'm
patrick
growth,
I'm
an
attorney.
I
live
in
ward
19..
I
have
been
working
on
the
signature
issue
leading
back
to
last
year,
sort
of
an
extension
of
some
voting
rights,
advocacy
work.
I've
been
doing
for
some
time.
I
You
know
this
year
last
year,
of
course,
we
had
some
relief
on
on
the
in-person
signatures
issue
as
a
result
of
a
court
ruling.
That
relief
expired
at
the
end
of
the
year,
sort
of
by
virtue
of
the
of
the
supreme
judicial
court's
order.
So
right
now,
there's
really
no
relief
from
the
ordinary
statutory
standards
that
candidates
need
to
access
the
ballot
across
the
state.
It's
particularly
acute,
given
the
pandemic
and
give
in
in
boston,
given
the
high
numbers
of
signatures
that
candidates
need
to
get.
I
So
that's
as,
as
everyone
knows,
it's
3,
000,
in-person
signatures
and
the
statute
says
in
person
to
be
on
the
ballot.
As
the
mayor
of
boston,
it's
1500
to
be
on
the
ballot
as
an
at-large
city,
council,
candidate
and
the
numbers
go
down
from
there.
I
guess
the
point
that
the
reason
why
we're
discussing
this
is
because
the
the
pandemic
is
ongoing.
As
the
sjc
found
last
year,
you
know
showing
up
at
people's
doorsteps,
exchanging
clipboards
the
ordinary
thing
that
you
do
to
collect
signatures
at
scale.
I
I
Today
there
was
a
open
letter
that
was
addressed
to
state
policymakers
that
was
signed
by
nearly
all
of
the
current
candidates
for
mayor
of
boston
and
also
nearly
all
of
the
candidates
for
city
council.
So
there's
clearly
a
lot
of
energy.
There
we'd
love
to
use
that
momentum
to
actually
make
some
changes.
I
It
would
be
possible
for
an
administrative
change
to
solve
the
problem
of
electronic
signatures
that
happened
at
the
state
level
last
year
as
a
result
of
the
court
ruling
and
secretary
galvin
rolled
out,
as
we
know,
a
way
of
getting
electronic
signatures
done
now.
I
I'd
love
to
know
that
that's
in
the
works
I
haven't
heard
from
the
secretary
of
state
that
that
is
this
year.
You
know
I
I,
the
elections
department
has
done
incredible
work
in
the
past
year,
making
sure
that
we
had
safe
elections
with
high
turnout.
I
You
know
I'd
be
more
than
curious
to
know
if,
if
there's
anything
that
we
could
do
this
year,
it
does
seem
like
it's
something
that
needs
to
be
done
at
the
state
level.
First,
and
that's
why
you
know,
I
think
a
lot
of
advocacy
efforts
have
been
addressed
in
that
direction,
so
I'm
I'm
I'd
love
to
take
questions
or
help
field
sort
of
a
creative
discussion
about
how
to
do
this.
I
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
again,
just
going
back
and
in
order
of
arrival
I'm
gonna,
I
had
two
quick
questions
for
the
elections
department,
one
really
from
my
understanding
the
there's
two
ballot
initiatives
likely
to
be
on
this
november.
I
don't
think
this
impacts
this.
This
is
the
non-binding
resolution
from
east
boston
and
the
the
charter
amendment
regarding
budgets
this
this
week.
I
don't
think
does
this
at
all
impact
this
them
and
how
they're
printed
and
then
the
timing
for
either
one
of
those.
A
C
A
B
Thank
you,
man,
I'm
sure
I
want
to
get
clarity,
so
it's
always
I'm
of
the
opinion
and
just
based
on
experience
here
that
we
need
a
whole
petition
to
change
this
and
I'm
getting
some
information
that
that
the
state
law
that
was
cited
in
the
transmittal
letter
enables
us
to
do
it
without
a
homo
petition.
So
I
I
need
to
understand
a
little
bit
better
in
terms
of
we're
changing
the
city
charter.
B
It's
always
been
my
understanding
that
that
requires
a
home
rule
petition
and
if
that's
the
case,
that
should
be
being
done
in
a
homo
petition.
If
that's
not
the
case,
then
I
need
to
be
convinced
that
for
some
reason,
the
first
time
that
we're
changing
the
charter
does
not
require
a
home
rule
petition.
That's
number
one
and
then
second
question
would
be
what
would
happen
if
we
didn't
move
the
date,
what
impact
would
that
have
on
the
election
department?
B
And,
lastly,
what
is
the
long-term
plan?
I
guess
to
factor
in
the
expansion
of
early
voting,
we've
always
had
election
dates.
We've
had
preliminary
and
generals
without
primaries,
I'm
sorry
preliminaries
and
finals,
and
we've
had
primaries
and
generals
and
obviously
now
obviously
early
voting
has
come
along.
We
should
be
able
to
be
able
to
work
within
the
parameters
of
those
dates
that
have
set
forth
by
one
the
city,
charter
and
or
state
law.
So
I
guess
we're
going
to
start
long-term.
If
that's.
A
B
Don't
have
it,
I
don't
have
in
front
of
you,
but
I
just
know
that
that
my
recollection
of
the
city
of
china
requires
the
preliminary
election
occur
on
the
sixth
tuesday
preceding
the
the
the
the
the
election,
the
the
final
election,
so
six
weeks
preceding.
That
is
how
it's
always
been.
Thank
you.
I've
been
on
a
lot
of
those
ballots
since
1999,
so.
B
That's
it
so
those
are.
Those
are
the
three
questions
I
have
for
the
commissioner
in
a
nutshell,
if
we
can
get
some
clarity
on
whether
this
needs
to
be
a
horrible
petition
or
not,
and
what,
if
we
don't
change
this,
what
happens
to
the
the
election
department,
I
mean
they
have
to
say:
if
we
don't
change
it,
you're
gonna
have
to
figure
it
out.
B
I
assume
right
and
you're
gonna
have
to
burn
the
candles
at
all
ends
to
make
it
happen,
and
then,
thirdly,
what's
the
plan
moving
forward
with
the
expansion
of
early
voting
is
now
every
single
election
via
primary
or
general
versus
or
preliminary
and
final?
Are
we
going
to
have
to
every
every
election?
We
have
to
figure
out
whether
the
election
department
can
get
their
house
in
order
and
meet
the
deadlines
because
of
the
early
voting.
C
So
I'll
start
by
saying
that
I
think
the
provisions
of
section
103p
allows
us
to
change
the
date
without
needing
requiring
a
homeroom
position.
It
states
the
provisions
of
this
section
shall
apply
to
any
regular
annual
or
biennial
city
or
town
elections,
notwithstanding
any
general
special
law
to
the
contrary.
C
This
was
done
in
2015
when
we
had
to
change
the
date
of
the
election
and
set
the
date
of
the
preliminary
election
back
two
weeks
due
to
a
conflicting
schedule
with
the
jewish
holidays,
and
it
was
just
the
election
dates
that
was
changed
and
it
was
done
by
the
same
manner,
which
is
how
we
we
modeled
this
request
as
well.
Should
this
not
change
again,
we
will
make
elections
work
as
we
always
do
with
under
the
current
laws.
C
It
just
will
allow
provide
for
a
very
short
turnaround
time
for
us
to
mail
the
ballots
to
the
voters.
So
by
the
time
we
put
the
ballots
in
the
mail
for
the
voters
for
them
to
get
it
back
to
it.
They
only
have
three
weeks
to
get
it
back
to
us.
Should
the
law
be
expanded
to
allow
for
early
voting
in
person?
Early
voting
and
that's
something
that
we
would
like
to
move
forward
with
as
well.
E
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair.
What
I
was
going
to
comment
on
before
was
just
counselor
flaherty,
specifically,
so
it's
chapter
54
103p
I
had
I
had
this
exact
same
question
that
you
had
and
what
it
turns
out
is
basically
that
provision
of
the
mass
general
laws
basically
overrides
everybody's
all
municipalities,
any
specifics
they
have
in
their
charter.
It
says,
despite
the
fact
that
it
might
say
the
sixth
like
tuesday
before,
and
it
is
specific
you're
totally
right,
it
doesn't
say
a
minimum.
E
It
says
like
it's,
the
sixth
tuesday,
before
that
it
says
we
can
still
by
by
order.
We
can
change
the
date,
and
that
was
what
I
meant
when
I
said
earlier,
like
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
change
anything
else
about
how
signatures
work
about
how
like
the
ballots
are
printed
like
the
any
of
those
details.
It
doesn't
give
us
carte
blanche
to
just
change
election
related
things
that
are
in
the
charter.
E
It
just
specifically
says
that
we
can
change
the
date
and
it
seems
like
it
was
designed
for
basically
the
kind
of
flexibility
around
the
things
like
the
jewish
holidays
and
other
stuff
like
to
just
let
us
do
it
without
a
home
rule.
So
I
had
looked
that
up
when
I
was
concerned
about
the
same
thing
last
week,.
E
Because
the
charter
holds
we're
not
amending
the
charter,
we're
simply
using
our
right
to
do
to
we're
using
our
right
by
order
to
set
the
date
at
something
different
from
the
charter,
so
we
wouldn't
be
permanently
changing
what
the
charter
date
sets
for
the
election
and-
and
I
think
that,
if
we
did
do
it,
madam
chair
and
and
anita,
I
think
we
would.
I
think
we
would
be
well
advised
just
to
add
a
line
in
the
in
the
order.
If
we
did
do
it.
E
That
said
that
all
other
dates
published
by
the
elections
commission
remain
the
same
because
enough
of
them
key
off
of
the
prelim
election
date.
But
I
don't
think
we'd
want
to
create
confusion
about
that,
since
we're
already
in
the
midst
of
so
many
of
those
dates.
So
that's
just
a
little.
I
think
we'd
be
fine,
like
there's
no
problem
with
doing
that,
but
it
just
for
the
purposes
of
clarity.
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
do
that
and
then
my
question
my
question
really.
E
I
guess
I
need
like
so
I
said
already
right.
My
concern
is
that
I
think
people
lock
in
to
paying
attention
to
their
local
elections
after
labor
day
in
this
town.
That
has
been
my
experience,
so
I'm
worried
about
us
losing
another
week.
So
I
guess
my
question
is
like:
have
you
guys
explored
like
all
avenues
in
terms
of
like?
Is
there
anything
we
can
do
to
get
the
printer
to
like
expedite
things
like?
Is
there
anything
I
mean
I
was
thinking
about?
E
I
mean,
hopefully,
the
ballot
questions
won't
drive
us
to
like
extra
sheets
of
paper,
but
there's
a
world
in
which
you
could
print
out
a
bunch
of
those
and
then
just
be
waiting
for
the
first
page.
I
mean
I'm
just
curious
whether
you
guys
have
thought
at
all
about.
If
we
don't
move
it
ways
to
kind
of
make
all
those
turnaround
pieces
as
efficient
as
possible.
C
There
really
is
not
because
of
the
certification
process,
which
is
which
is
governed
by
mass
law.
We
cannot
certify
the
election
results
before
a
certain
time
frame
and
because
we
have
to
allow
we
can't
certify
it
prior
to
the
time
for
a
recount
has
expired,
so
we
can't
certify
the
elections
until
six
days
after
the
preliminary
election,
and
then
the
charter
requires
that
we
hold
a
ballot
position,
drawing
following
that.
C
C
It's
typically
three
weeks,
however,
we
have
never
had
vote
by
mail,
so
with
vote
by
mail
comes
a
larger
volume
of
absentee
or
or
mail
and
ballots,
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
prepare
for,
for
even
with
absentee
voting,
we
haven't
seen
the
volume.
This
would
be
the
very
first
time
that
we've
had
vote
by
mail
or
if
it
shouldn't
be
expanded,
would
be
the
first
time
we've
had
vote
by
mail
for
a
municipal
election.
E
E
Right
right,
okay,
and
did
you
like,
and
just
do
you
know,
does
the
statute.
I
know
that
it
only
runs
through
june
30th
right
now,
but
the
state
statute
that
expands
vote
by
mail
does
that
have
any
timelines
in
it
better
that
have
to
be
harmonized
with
ours
in
terms
of
when
things
are
available
and
all
that
jazz.
C
E
E
C
E
Got
it,
but
is
it?
Is
it
fair
to
summarize,
if
the?
If,
if
the
state
were
not
to
extend
mail
and
voting,
then
we'll
probably
have
a
schedule
that
we
can
live
with
based
on
what
our
normal
procedures
have
been?
But
the
issue
is
that
if
they
did,
which
is
a
thing
that
we,
I
think
basically
everyone
on
this
council,
I
think
is-
is
committed
in
favor
of
I
think,
like
you
know,
mayors
past
and
present
are
committed
in
favor
of
right
like
we
all.
E
C
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
If
I
can
just
ask,
because
I
I
haven't
heard
it
yet
we're
we
keep
talking
about
moving
the
primary
up,
I
think
it's
because
moving
the
data,
the
primary
is
more
common.
The
primary
date's
been
moved
multiple
times
in
the
sense
that
it
changes
its
date
every
election
cycle.
Sometimes
it's
after
labor
day.
Sometimes
it's
further
back
in
september,
and
so
people
don't
have
a
set
date
that
they
decide
like
that's
the
primary
date
it
changes.
The
second
tuesday
november
is
more
of
a
traditional
thing.
G
G
G
Okay
and
then
in
terms
of
the
election
department
itself,
in
terms
of
its
advocacy
with
the
state
on
mail-in
voting,
where,
where
are
we
right
now
as
far
as
that
goes,
does
in
terms
of
them
doing
that?
Are
they
still
looking
at
like?
I
know
they
extended
mail
and
voting
to
like
june?
Is
that
accurate.
G
G
Okay,
I
think
that's,
I
think,
you've
answered
most
of
my
questions.
I
I
it's
reassuring
to
me
that
there's
something
we
can
do
without
having
to
have
a
home
rule
petition
in
general.
So
that's
good
to
know.
So,
thank
you
on
that
front
and
then,
in
terms
of
the
election
department
itself
on
the
turnaround
of
mail-in
ballots,
how
quickly
post
post
an
actual
primary
election
result.
If
we
had
say
a
recount
situation,
how
would
that
impact
mail-in
balloting
in
general.
C
G
C
I
would
just
like
to
add
that,
should
mail
and
voting
be
expanded
to
include
the
fall
elections,
although
it's
not
going
to
be
required
of
us
to
mail
applications
to
all
registered
voters,
it
is
the
goal
of
this
department
to
do
so.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
consistent
with
the
practices
from
the
fall
and
we
will
be
mailing
every
single
registered
voter,
an
application
that
also
brings
awareness
to
the
election.
A
That's
great,
I
I'm
really
happy
about
that.
So
sorry,
my
colleague,
less
excited.
I
think
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
that
is
incredible.
Getting
out
there
making
sure
that
they're,
you
said
balance
to
everyone
right
or
not,
applications
because
applications
at
least
applications.
So
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
be
able
to
it's.
Another
click
go
ahead
and
apply
make
sure
you
know
to
vote.
This
is
great
so
again
kudos
to
the
elections.
Department.
Sorry,
I'm
out
of
order!
Are
you
all
set
counselor
arroyo.
H
Thank
you,
council
edwards.
Thank
you
to
commissioner
tavares
as
well.
I
just
had
a
couple
of
questions
and
comments.
Maybe
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
council
arroyo's
questioning
if,
if
there
are
recounts,
for
you
know,
number
two
and
three,
maybe
for
for
maya
or
for
a
district
council
or
for
at
large,
I
know
we
don't
have
plans
yet
for
a
recount,
but
would
would
part
of
that
process
if
there
was
a
recount.
C
H
Yeah
so
that
that
might
add
that
might
add
more
time
to
it.
Maybe
the
time
is
already
built
into
it,
but
I
I
would.
I
would
like
to
see
just
an
automatic
recount
where
you
don't
need
signatures
from
from
residents.
Again,
it's
just
it's
just
too
time
consuming
and
the
in
the
candidates
are
are
exhausted
and
they
have
to
put
money
into
a
recount
and
pay
paying
lawyers
and
attorneys
fees.
H
C
Well,
we
have
translators
here
and
that's
another
thing
that
goes
into
the
ballot.
So
all
of
our
ballots
have
to
have
to
be
proof
read,
and
we
have
internal
translation
services
here
and
then
the
ballots
are
proof
read
in
both
english
and
the
language
it's
translated
in
before
we
can
actually
give
the
printer
the
go
ahead
to
to
print
the
ballots.
H
C
J
I
must
be
the
elephant
in
the
zoo,
because
every
time
we
hear
recounts
it
is
the
triggering
a
word
in
terms
of
just
having
been
through
that
process.
I
know
that
the
elections
department
is
well
positioned
and
able
to
handle
it.
They
did
such
an
amazing
job
getting
through
it
in
three
days
and
it
was
a
city-wide
race.
So
I
think
that
that
prepared
you
for
everything
and
anything
because
these
days
anything
is
possible
so
and
and
knowing
how
every
single
vote
matters.
J
I'm
glad
that
we're
having
this
conversation,
I
just
have
a
few
questions.
I
know
that
patrick
introduced
this
whole
push
to
reduce
the
number
of
signatures,
and
I'm
wondering
if
something
like
that
will
have
any
impact
in
in
this
particular
conversation
that
we're
having
now
and
what
and
if
so,
I
I
spoke
briefly
with
sabino,
I'm
not
sure
if
there
isn't
there,
if
there
is
something
that
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
I
I
know
collecting
1500
signatures.
J
You
need
to
at
least
do
double
just
so
that
making
sure
that
you
at
least
have
1500
that
are
certified
and
so
that,
just
in
the
time
of
covet,
I'm
just
curious.
What,
if
any
advocacy
we
can,
how
our
advocacy
will
impact
the
the
date
change
and
and
all
that
I
don't
want
to
lose
sight
of
the
importance
of
being
able
to
reduce
the
number
of
signatures
that
we
have
to
collect.
Obviously,
I
know
we're
going
to
be
picking
up
our
papers
on
april
the
27th,
so
that
is
usually
like.
J
That's
a
quick
turnaround,
so
if
any
decisions
that
need
to
be
made
would
need
to
be
made
today
or
this
week
or
sometime
soon.
So
that
way,
we
can
provide
clear
guidance
to
those
who
are
picking
up
their
ballots
and
I
mean
their
their
papers.
All
that,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
that
impacts.
This
conversation.
C
Any
changes
to
signature
gathering
will
not
impact
us
at
all.
I
think
we
just
need
to
be
mindful
of
the
time
frame
here,
because
candidates
only
have
three
weeks
to
gather
signatures,
and
next
week
will
be
the
opening
day
when
candidates
can
come
into
our
office
and
actually
pick
up
the
the
nomination
papers
and
that's
when
the
clock
is
going
to
start
ticking.
J
So
then,
I
guess
and
sabino's
not
here,
but
he
did
mention
that
that
may
potentially
impact
this
particular
hearing,
so
maybe
that
it
was
something
else,
and
so
that's
all
good,
I'm
just
curious.
How
are
we
communicating
with
constituents
about
the
proposed
changes
and
the
reasons
for
making
these
changes?
What
I'm
really
specifically
concerned
about
are
the
people
who
are
either
first-time
voters
or
who,
who
voted
for
the
first
time
in
the
last
municipal
election
and
how
we
and
they
you
know
they
might
be
a
little
bit
confused
by
these
changes.
C
C
Application
for
our
ballot
is
going
to
be
huge
because
again
that
al
that
will
bring
awareness
to
the
fact
that
there
is
an
election.
The
election
dates
will
be
on
there
and
they'll
have
to
actually
select
the
ballots,
the
elections
that
they
want
to
participate
in.
So
I
believe
that
that's
going
to
be
a
huge
piece
to
making
voters
aware
that
there
is
actually
you
know,
a
preliminary
election
and
the
date
of
the
preliminary
election.
C
I
think
that's
something
that
we
have
always
kind
of
toured
around
with
the
idea
of
how
do
we
bring
awareness
to
voters
that
there
is
in
fact
a
municipal
election,
because,
as
we
know,
that's
where
we
see
the
lowest
turnout?
So
I
think
that
this
is
going
to
be
key
to
to
bringing
awareness
to
voters.
J
C
D
This
is
I'm
uniquely,
I
think,
qualified
at
least
on
this
panel
to
speak
on
this
issue,
because
the
first
time
in
a
decade
I
will
have
the
most
important
role
in
a
municipal
election
and
that's
not
candidate,
but
that's
as
a
voter.
So,
commissioner,
I
support
any
efforts
that
we
can
employ
to
make
sure
that
as
many
people
are
able
to
vote
safely
and
efficiently,
and
if
that
means
moving
the
date
of
the
preliminary
election,
then
I
absolutely
support
it.
D
I
think
that
you've
articulated
why
it
has
to
happen
to
really
implement
voting
by
mail
opportunities
which,
again
and
to
to
echo
the
chair,
my
great
appreciation
for
you
and
the
leadership
that
you've
demonstrated
not
unlike
a
very
similar
conversation.
We
had
a
year
ago
on
this
very
topic
on
election
safety,
where
we
discussed
mailing
every
every
active
and
inactive
voter
in
the
city
of
boston,
at
least
a
absentee
ballot
application.
D
So
I
think
that
we've
seen
a
success
of
actually
increased
turnout
for
our
primary
election
in
2020,
and
certainly
the
general
election
of
course
had
very
high
turnout
is
often
the
case
in
the
presidential
election,
but
to
be
able
to
again
do
that
in
a
municipal
and
municipal
election.
The
preliminary
election,
for
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
so
anything
we
can
do
to
implement
early
voting
anything
we
do
to
implement
vote
by
mail.
Anything
we
can
do
to
simply
address
and
tear
down
any
barriers
that
any
individual
may
have
to
voting.
D
We
should
be
doing-
and
I
am
happy
to
add
my
voice
to
the
chorus
and
certainly
add
my
vote
when
this
comes
before
the
body
again,
not
being
a
candidate,
and
it's
too
late
clearly
to
do
it
for
this
municipal
election
year,
but
I
think
going
forward.
The
city
would
really-
and
it
not
only
for
city
elections
but
for
state
elections
as
well.
We
ought
to
be
having
a
conversation
about
moving
a
primary
election
or
a
preliminary
election
to
the
spring.
D
This
is
what
many
many
other
states
do.
It
would
allow
for
that
very
issue
that
we
often
come
across
where
an
election
right
after
labor
day
or
often
conflicting
with
the
jewish
holiday
makes
september
a
difficult
month
to
have
a
primary
or
preliminary
election.
This
is
a
way
that
we
could
both
address
it.
It
would
move
the
election
calendar
up,
but
again,
I
think
that
the
the
turnout
could
be
and
should
be
and
would
be
increased
voter
participation,
which
is
what
we
all
want.
D
D
So
I
look
forward
to
being
part
of
a
record-setting
voting
turnout
in
boston
for
this
year
and
again,
anything
we
can
do
to
increase
that
make
it
easier
for
folks
to
vote,
including
moving
the
date
of
the
preliminary
election
makes
a
lot
of
sense
because
of
the
clear
ramifications
that
will
help
us
to
be
able
to
run
a
better
municipal
election
in
november.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
C
A
I
I
know
some.
Some
candidates
are
looking
at
mailing
ballots
out
to
folks
or
excuse
me,
signature
papers
out
to
folks,
but
I
also
know
that
the
elections
department
kind
of
gives
us
a
finite
amount
of
them.
You
know
to
get
signatures
so
there's
there's
some
practical
things
that
might
be
worth
bringing
up.
If
any
of
my
colleagues
have
suggestions
about
their
ways
in
which
they're
collecting
signatures
traditionally
we'd
all
be
at
at
least
nice
false
at
the
shaw's.
C
I
would
just
like
to
add,
since
you
just
mentioned,
that
some
candidates
may
be
mailing
signature
sheets,
that
our
charter
requires
that
there's
a
circulator
and
that
our
the
forms
are
actually
signed
by
a
circulator.
So
there's
a
lot
of
pieces
to
the
charter
that
would
have
to
change
here
for
the
signature
gathering.
So
every
single
nomination
paper
has
to
be
signed
by
the
candidate
and
every
single
one
has
to
be
signed
by
a
circulator.
A
Right
right,
so
just
let
me
just
maybe
maybe
I
was
misunderstood.
If
I
took
out
the
paper,
I
will
put
myself
out
there
as
an
example
only
not
that
I
am
doing
or
planning
to
do
things
I
take
this.
I
sign
it.
My
volunteer
signs
it
and
we
then
hear
from
jane
doe
at
1234
apple
street,
and
she
says
I'd
like
to
sign
your
signature
papers.
We
send
it
to
her.
She
signs
it
and
sends
it
back
to
us
that
is
not
allowed.
C
C
A
I
see
patrick
raised
his
hand
and
then
counselor
bach
raised
her
hand
and
then,
after
I'm
gonna,
go
to
my
appointment.
So
if
you
want
to
be
brief
in
your
comments
and
then
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
council,
flaherty
and
I'll,
send
you
the
list.
Council
clarity
of
order
of
arrival
go
ahead.
Padre.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'll,
be
very
brief
and-
and
I
don't
want
to
in
any
way
purport
to
speak
for
the
elections
department,
but
I
always
understood
the
position
on
on
that
point
of
the
elections
department
in
boston
and
other
city
and
town
clerks
around
the
state
that
it
was
not
possible
to
tell
from
a
a
filed
signature
paper
that
had
been
properly
signed,
whether
that
had
been
distributed
through
the
mail
or
in
person
through
a
circulator.
That's
just
not
something
that
the
department
can
can
easily
verify
by
looking
at
the
paper.
I
That's
before
them.
It
may
be
subject
to
a
challenge
process
by
another
candidate.
If
a
a
third-party
candidate
came
in
and
made
an
allegation
about
the
manner
in
which
that
signature
was
collected,
that's
not
legal
advice
and
not
official
advice,
but
as
an
advocate
that
was
my
understanding
and
I
just
offering
that.
C
E
Yeah,
I
actually
wanted
to
follow
up
on
something
you
said:
counselor,
edwards
anita.
I
I
there
the
sort
of
the
limitation
on
the
number
of
sheets
that
the
election
department
gives
to
candidates.
I
don't
think
that's
in
the
charter
and
it
does
strike
me
as
something
that
could
administratively
be
improved
in
this
year,
given
the
constraints
of
just
the
fact
that
I
would
expect
people
to
be
instead
of
filling
up
whole
sheets,
I
would
expect
we
have
a
lot
more
twos
and
threes
and
fives
this
year.
C
C
I
know
that
we've
tried
to
change
in
the
past,
so
I
think
this
is
something
that
need
the
work
needs
to
continue
to
make
sure
that
it
we
follow
through,
and
we
do
have
enough
time
frame
to
to
properly
execute
an
election
with
vote
by
mail
in
place
and
to
remove
some
of
these
unnecessary
hurdles
for
the
nomination
process.
But
again,
that's
not
something
that
can
come
from
us,
we're
just
the
administrators
and
not
the
policy
makers.
So
that's
just
things
that
we've
noticed
from
in
doing
the
work
that
we
do
here.
E
E
E
The
the
uncertainty
about
the
mail-in
ballots
and
that
situation
on
this
nomination
papers-
I
so
I
found
it
you're
right
it's
in
the
charter,
but
am
I
right
in
understanding
I
mean
officially,
the
election
department
doesn't
encourage
people
to
make
photocopies
of
those
sheets,
but
in
practice,
there's
if,
if
all
the
signatures
are
valid
and
seem
to
have
been
made
on
the
piece
of
paper
and
whatever
the
elections
department.
Also,
as
I
understand,
doesn't
distinguish
between
paper
issued
by
it
and
paper
that
may
have
been
issued
by
another
printer.
C
E
Yeah,
I
just
I
wonder
if
there
is
a
way
that
we
could
administratively,
because
when
I
read
the
charter
on
that,
it
actually
says
it
just
says:
not
more
than
20
nomination
sheets
shall
be
issued.
I'm
sure
this
was
somebody
trying
to
save
money
back
in
the
day
like
it's
like
a
kind
of
like
efficiency
like
whatever,
but
I
just
wonder
if
there's
a
way
for
us
to
administratively
like
say,
like
yeah
like
we're,
only
gonna
give
you
20
but
like.
If
you
make
more
it's
fine,
I
don't
know.
C
I
don't
think
that,
because
it's
spelled
out
in
the
charter,
I
don't
think
that
we
are
going
to
say
that,
but
again,
if
someone
makes
copies
nomination
papers
and
they
bring
it
here-
and
we
can't
tell
we're
not
copy
experts
and
we
can't
tell
that
their
copies
and
the
signatures
look
good
and
everything
looks
good
on
the
nomination
papers.
Then
we
have
to
accept
it
right.
E
E
I
don't
want
us
to
unduly
sort
of
indicate
a
fear
where,
where
it
may
not
be
the
most
updated
guidance
to
do
that,
I
guess
my
concern
about
electronic
signatures.
Again,
it's
a
little
bit
the
kind
of
like
in
mid
stream
piece
like
it
seems
to
me
like.
If
we,
if
we
I
mean,
I
don't
think
we're
very
likely
to
get
the
state
to
give
us
an
electronic
their
signatures
mechanism
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
E
Frankly,
but
if
they
did
I
feel
like,
then
it
would
set
up
a
need
for
our
elections
department
to
have
an
electronic
signature.
Verifying
process
which
again
like
it
doesn't
currently
exist,
because
we
don't
have
that
thing.
So
I'm
just
a
little
bit
worried
about
it
seems
to
me
like
there
might
be
other
ways
to
try
to
facilitate
this
process
but
like
that,
might
just
be
a
hard
one
to
switch
to
at
this
hour.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
thoughts
on
that.
I
Yeah,
thank
you,
counselor.
Both
points
are
well
taken.
I
I
certainly
agree
with
you
that
what
we've
learned
more
about
the
viruses
mitigated
some
of
those
initial
concerns
about
surface
contact
on
the
election
on
the
electronic
signature
piece.
I
certainly
agree
with
the
general
point
that
changing
making
big
election
changes.
Midstream
should
be
sort
of
frowned
upon.
In
general
terms,
having
said
that,
I
suppose
we
did
have
electronic
signatures
in
the
election
last
year.
I
The
statewide
election
there
was,
it
was
court
ordered
and
there
was
friction
and
rolling
it
out
for
sure,
but
the
you
know
the
state
that
state
has
had
some
experience
doing
that
the
secretary's
office
has
had
some
experience,
administrating
and
administering
and
introducing
that,
so
it
wouldn't
be
a
total
blank
slate
and
there's
also
other
states
that
have
done
it
right.
So
it's
something
that's
been
done,
and
you
know,
in
other
modern
facets
of
life.
I
We've
been
able
to
reasonably
integrate
electronic
contraptions
and
have
that,
be,
you
know,
verified
by
identity.
But
your
point
that
it's
you
know
april.
You
know
we
don't
have
much
time
on
the
clock
until
this
thing
starts
is
totally
well
taken.
It's
it's
out
there,
because
I
think
we
acknowledge
the
some
of
the
challenges
that
would
come
with
a
legislative
solution
and
a
home
rule
petition
which
have
been
sort
of
in
the
air
here,
and
so
that
is
one
technically.
That
would
be
administrative
and
not
legislative.
I
Yeah,
it's
there's
an
argument.
This
the
sjc
last
year
in
its
court
decision,
looked
at
that
language
in
the
state
statute
and
and
nevertheless
ordered
electronic
signatures
and
did
not
say
that
it
was
doing
something
that
was
inconsistent
with
the
law.
I
think
there
is
an
argument
that
electronic
signatures
can
be
can
in-person
signatures
can
be
provided
electronically.
It's
not
to
say
that
it's
it's
it's
it's
fully
square
right!
There's
there's
definitely
arguments
there.
I
It
was
some
weeks
in
advance
of
the
deadline.
There
was
time
and
there
was.
There
was
actually
a
little
bit
of
a
court-ordered
administrative
process
where
the
secretary
was
ordered
to
file
a
report
with
the
sjc
about
implementing
that
process.
So
there
was,
I
can't
recall
exactly,
but
it
was
like
it
wasn't
on
the
order
of
months.
It
was
more
than
a
few
days.
It
was
on
the
order
of
weeks.
I
E
B
You,
council
black,
and
I
guess
the
sort
of
the
dilemma
I
guess
on
the
signature
piece
to
kinsey
obviously
into
anyone
here,
is
that
we
obviously
will
either
be
there
ourselves
as
the
candidate
or
we'll
have
a
campaign
representative
that
will
be
presenting
a
nomination
paper
on
a
clipboard
in
most
instances
with
a
pen,
and
I
guess
how
that
whole
thing
is
going
to
go
down.
I
guess
is
a
mystery.
Obviously
you
want
to
make
sure
the
presenter
is
is
exercising
social
distancing
is
masked.
B
They
may
want
to
use
their
own
pen.
You
might
have
to
give
that
pen
away
so
that
it's
not
reused.
I
mean
those
are
the
those
are
sort
of.
I
guess
that's
the
those
are
the
conundrums.
If
you
will
that
either
the
folks
that
have
been
collecting
signatures
on
on
candidates,
behalfs
or
the
folks
that
are
being
asked
to
sign,
and
that's
that
sort
of
dilemma
do
I
grab
the
pin,
do
I
use
my
own
pin?
Do
I
just
take
a
pass
on
it?
B
So
I
guess
that
remains
to
be
seen
as
to
how
that's
going
to
roll
out
in
the
next
the
next
week
or
so
once
papers
come
up
but
and
whether
or
not
to
patrick's
point
sort
of
on
the
e-signature
piece.
Whether
that's
gonna
be
more,
I
mean,
for
example,
at
large.
You
have
to
get
1500
signatures
and
you
know
to
some
degree,
that's
a
little
bit.
B
It's
a
lift,
it's
a
task,
and
then,
if
you're,
competing
and
you're
able
to
do
that
great,
if
you're
struggling
to
do
that
or
folks
are
hesitant
to
sign
the
papers
because
of
how
they're
presented
and
or
because
they
didn't
have
their
own
pen
with
them.
So
I
I
guess,
we'll
probably
as
as
as
the
papers
sort
of
roll
out
and
as
we
start,
the
nomination
paper
drive
and
that's
not
just
us,
but
it's
all
candidates
for
public
office
for
both
council
and
mayoral.
B
In
this
in
this
election
cycle,
I
think
we're
going
to
get
immediate
feedback,
probably
in
the
first
24
to
48
hours
as
to
whether
or
not
people
are
willingly
participating
in
the
process
and
now
willingly
signing
nomination
papers
or,
if
there's
a
resistance,
then
is
it
sort
of
more
of
a
covert
resistance?
I
guess
that's
the
dilemma.
I
think
that
all
campaigns
will
be
dealing
with
moving
forwards.
That's
just
my
sort
of
two
cents
on
my
experience
on
nomination
signature
drives
any
feedback
on
that
is
welcome
from
from
the
commissioner
in
your
attorney
roth.
C
C
Some
training
will
have
to
put
be
put
in
place
for
any
of
the
circulators
they're
going
to
be
out
there
gathering
signatures
in
terms
of
how
to
disinfect
and
sanitize
clipboards
in
between
voters
and
I'll
say
that
all
over
the
country
we
saw
some
of
our
highest
turnouts
during
these
past
elections.
So
I
I
my
hope
would
be
that
people
are
still
willing
and
to
participate
in
the
democratic
process
and
signing
these
nomination
papers.
I
I
People
hesitate
before
they
take
that,
pin
whether
or
not
to
counselor
box
point
whether
or
not
that's
consistent
with
the
latest
science
or
not,
there's
just
a
there's
just
an
extra
burden
on
here
that
was
not
likely
intended
by
the
by
the
rules
as
they
exist
today
and
just
to
circle.
Back
to
one
earlier
point
that
council
mejia
wrote
raised
earlier
in
the
in
the
resolution
that
passed
the
council
last
week,
one
option
could
be
to
give
campaigns
more
time
to
collect
signatures.
I
That
happened
last
year,
and
that's
something
that
the
council,
we
could
call
on
the
state
to
do
right.
There's
there's,
there's
all
sorts
of
moving
pieces
there,
but
that
that
proposal
was
actually
not
in
the
resolution
last
year
and
it's
not
something
that's
been
under
discussion
for
the
reasons
that
the
commissioner
raised
that
just
you
know,
we
have
a
crunch.
I
B
J
J
If
we
thought
it
was
hard
just
to
get
on
the
ballot
under
normal
quote,
unquote
circumstances
you
could
just
only
imagine
how
fearful,
even
though
folks
are
getting
vaccinated,
the
spread
is
still
a
threat
for
so
many,
and
so
I
just
think
that
there
are
going
to
be
less
people
who
are
in
front
of
roach
brothers.
There's
going
to
be
all
of
those
things
that
we
usually
rely
on,
you
know:
even
businesses
are
operating,
25,
30,
30
reduce
capacity,
so
it's
just
the
foot.
J
Traffic
is
just
not
there,
and
so
I'm
just
really
pushing
for
us
to
really
think
outside
the
box
in
terms
of
how
we're
going
to
remove
these
barriers
for
folks.
If
because
we
won't
have
a
democracy,
if
we
can't,
you
know
really
get
people
on
the
ballot
right,
and
so
I'm
just
curious
about
what?
What?
What
are
we
thinking
about
to
to
help
address
that
issue?
And
then
you
know
I
just.
J
I
know
that
for
us
at
large,
it's
22
neighborhoods
1500
signatures,
it's
a
big,
it's
just
a
big
undertaking,
and
if
we
do,
god
forbid
have
to
do
a
recount
look
collecting
three.
I
don't
know.
I
think
it
was
50
signatures
for
22
wards.
That
was
just
ridiculous
and
we're
gonna
have
to
think
ahead.
Just
in
case
we
do
end
up
in
a
situation
like
that
again
like
this.
This
whole
idea
of
collecting
signatures
period,
whether
we
are
under
a
global
pandemic
or
not.
J
We
need
to
definitely
revisit
the
charter
and
change
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
21st
century
and
I'm
curious
if
this
is
the
moment
for
us
to
seize,
and
I
think
there
was
something
a
discussion
about
even
how
many
signatures
are
on
the
ballot.
Is
it
20
or
25
or
30?
I
forget
that
you
could
how
many
signatures
per
sheet.
J
33.
yeah,
the
paper
can't
be
any
longer,
but
so
I'm
just
curious.
If
there's
any
way,
what
can
we
do?
How
can
we
support
and
what
what
will
it
take
for
us
to
be
able
to
to
to
push
this
harder?
I
know
we're
already
going
as
hard
as
we
can,
but
I
want
to
go
as
hard.
What
else
can
we
do
patrick?
What?
What
else
can
we
do?
How
can
we
make
this
happen?.
I
Well,
thank
I'll
start,
and
then
maybe,
if
the
commissioner
wants
to
jump
in
please,
I
well
I'll,
certainly
appreciate
your
enthusiasm
counselor.
I
I
share
it
I'll
say
that
we,
this
is
not
this
hearing
last
week.
Today's
letter
is
not
the
first
time
we've
tried
to
raise
these
issues.
You
know
we've.
I
Obviously
there
was
litigation
last
year,
but
there
was
also
correspondence
with
you
know:
state
leaders
and
some
some
legislative
advocacy
we've
been
trying
to
elevate
this
issue
and
it
has
not
been
successful
today
and
so
we're
continuing
to
push
for
it.
I
think
that
it's
an
important
thing
and
I'll
say
it's
a
it
can
be
difficult
to
organize
people
around
because
it's
you
know
it
affects
a
a
in
theory.
I
There's
good
reasons
why
we
have
rules
that
that
have
some
basic
threshold
requirements
for
putting
people
on
the
ballot.
You
know,
if
you
read,
I
was.
If
you
read
larry
decara's
book,
you
hear
about
old
tales
of
people,
putting
lots
of
extra
people
on
a
ballot
to
make
it
harder
for
some
to
win.
That's
a
different
problem,
but
I
just
think
that
the
state
city
we've
not
struck
this
balance
right
right
now.
B
J
I'm
the
chair
of
civil
rights
and
we
are,
if
we,
if
we're,
not
doing
our
dual
diligence
to
removing
these
barriers,
then
we
are
literally
preventing
people
from
participating
in
democracy
and
even
just
standing
on
that
is
worth.
Commissioner
tavares,
even
even
if
it's
just
on
that
stand
alone
is
something
for
us
to
consider
very
good.
B
B
Good,
so
those
that
are
listening
and
or
will
be
watching
a
broadcast
there.
They
have
the
ability
to
submit
written
testimony
to
the
committee
on
government
operations
as
well
as
contact
any
of
their
district
or
latch
counselors.
If
they
wish
to
offer
an
opinion
on
whether
or
not
we
should
move
the
date
of
the
preliminary
election,
it's
currently
scheduled
for
september
20,
first
forward
to
september
14th,
but
keeping
the
final
election
on
the
same
date.
B
So
with
that,
once
my
colleagues
have
any
parting
comments,
we'll
be
closing
out
the
committee
on
gum
operations
as
it
retains
to
target
0
4
5
2,
which
is
a
message
in
order
to
change
the
date
of
the
preliminary
election
from
this
municipal
year
from
september
21st
2021
to
september
14
2020,
and
that
was
that
matter
was
sponsored
by
former
mayor.
Martin
wall
should
refer
to
the
committee
back
on
march
24th
of
2021.
B
So
without
objection
and
moving
forward
to
recess
this
hearing,
the
council
will
be
in
recess
and
we'll
get
back
as
soon
as
we
can
to
the
commissioner,
with
the
results
of
a
committee
report
and
a
vote
from
the
council
very
good
good
to
see
everybody
and
have
a
great
rest
of
your
afternoon
in
the
committee
on
a
government
government
operations
with
respect
to
target
zero.
Four
five
two
is
adjourned.
Thank.