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Docket #0851 - Order for an amendment to the Boston City Charter pursuant to G.L. c. 43B, ยง10(b)
A
Well,
it
seems,
I
know
we're
having
a
couple
more
people
join
us,
but
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
on
the
working
session.
I'm
going
to
do
some
intro
remarks
and
have
my
colleagues
go
ahead
and
do
any
other.
You
know
house
cleaning
things
we
want
to
say,
so
we
can
get
right
into
public
testimony
responses
and
summaries
of
where
we
are
so
good
morning.
A
A
For
public
testimony,
written
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
at
ccc.go
at
boston.gov.
This
docket
is
an
order
seeking
approval
of
a
charter
amendment
under
43
b.
Under
provisions
of
this
section,
a
member
of
a
local
body,
may
propose
a
charter
amendment
with
a
written
request
of
the
city
clerk.
A
I
did
that
this
written
request
to
the
clerk's
office
initiates
a
mandatory
timeline
which
we
are
currently
now
on,
by
which
the
council
must
hold
a
public
hearing,
which
we
have
we
advertise
that
public
hearing
in
a
newspaper
and
ultimately,
we
must
make
a
vote.
This
all
needs
to
happen
within
four
months.
A
Approval
of
a
referendum
on
the
charter
amendment
submitted
requires
a
vote
of
the
council
and
constitutional
review
of
the
attorney
general.
Should
the
attorney
general
approve
the
question?
Voters
in
boston
would
vote
yes
or
no
at
the
next
regular
municipal
election,
which
would
be
2021
provided
such
election
is
at
least
60
days,
which
is
it
is
if
the
attorney
general
finds
this
to
be
in
conflict
with
the
law,
then
we
have
an
opportunity
to
correct
the
question.
A
A
B
C
A
B
D
E
A
F
A
A
In
our
last
hearing,
we
discussed
how
many
of
us
were
not
did
not
feel
the
city
council
was
prepared
or
would
be
able
to
ultimately
originate
the
budget,
so
I've
sent
along
a
redline
version
that
eliminates
that
particular
issue.
I've
also
sent
along
a
redline
version
that
changes
the
language
with
regards
to
participatory
budgeting.
A
This
is
I'm
very
grateful
to
counselor
box
leadership
in
this
particular
language
and
with
her
her
leadership.
She
really
came
up
with
the
perfect
destruct
the
perfect
balance
of
allowing
the
power
to
happen,
but
the
ultimate
decisions
and
conversations
to
be
done
with
an
ordinance
by
the
city
council
to
make
sure
that
we
are
balancing
fiscal
needs
and
practical
realities
and
that
we
don't
get
ahead
of
our
scheve
just
with
the
charter
amendment
again.
The
charter
amendment
is
about
the
powers
that
we've
got.
G
Good
morning,
madam
chair,
I'm
sorry
to
tune
in
late.
I
don't
have
any
my
my
remarks
are
brief.
Just
thank
you,
everyone
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
sharing
this
and
hosting
this
meeting
today
in
this,
I
think
really
important
discussion,
thoughtful
discussion,
around
charter
amendments
and
I'm
here
for
it
all.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
with
that
we
have
several
guests
today
who
have
also
been
involved
in
the
grassroots
effort
and
also
in
terms
of
legal
analysis
and
study
and
and
some
are
responding
to
some
of
the
great
questions
we
got
from
the
last
working
or
last
hearing
as
well.
So
I
understand
we
have
armani
white
and
alex
papali
from
ced
center
for
economic
democracy.
A
We
have
justin
steele
from
mit
and
we
have
peter
enrich
emeritus,
professor
of
greatness
and
tax
and
thought.
I
don't
know
how
you
would
like
me
to
describe
you
peter,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
have.
I
have
announced
everyone
who
is
here.
I
do
see
that
there
is
a
like
a
woman
or
I'm
sorry.
I
don't
don't
want
to
misgender
anyone,
a
nicolette
cameron
in
the
waiting
room,
and
I
wasn't
sure
if
she
was
with
any
of
the
organizations.
A
H
H
Great
thank
you
thank
you
for
having
me
counselors.
Since
the
last
meeting.
I
have
spent
some
time
researching
participatory
budgeting
projects,
as
they
currently
exist
in
the
united
states
and
with
nicolette
actually
who's.
Here,
we've
conducted
a
systematic
search
of
national
regional
newspapers
to
identify
participatory
budgeting
ordinances
or
policies
nationwide
we've
identified
more
than
30
participatory
budgeting
programs
in
cities
across
the
country.
Some
of
these
are
focused
on
youth
funding.
H
Some
are
policy
changes
that
encourage
counselors
or
districts
to
use
participatory
budgeting
within
their
discretion.
We
have
focused
our
research
on
the
17
cities
that
we
were
able
to
identify
that
have
some
type
of
city-wide
participatory
budgeting
program.
That's
a
part
of
a
part
of
the
budget
enacted,
either
through
ordinance
or
policy.
H
Some
of
these
processes
have
been
initiated
by
mayors,
others
by
city
councils.
Some
are
led
by
the
city
budget
office,
sometimes
they're
coordinated
by
specific
departments
within
the
city,
the
largest
city
that
we
have
identified
that
has
a
city-wide
annual
participatory
budgeting
allocation
is
seattle,
which
is
larger
than
boston.
As
you
probably
know,
population
about
745
thousand
when
they've
had
a
citywide
participatory
budgeting
program
since
2017
the
city
of
vallejo,
california,
has
had
a
participatory
budgeting
program
since
2013.
H
H
salem
massachusetts
used
participatory
budgeting
once
for
a
one-time
allocation
of
funding
that
it
had
received
and
burlington
vermont
just
began
the
process
of
creating
one
in
general.
These
processes.
What
usually
seems
to
happen
is
that
people
can
submit
ideas.
Some
either
volunteers
or
some
commission
develops
a
number
of
those
ideas
that
seem
most
promising
into
proposals
and
then
there's
some
mechanism
for
residents
to
vote
on
those
proposals.
Sometimes
those
who
can
vote
are
younger.
You
know
that
the
voting
age
extends
younger
than
the
standard
voting
age.
H
We
new
york
city
has
the
most
money
allocated
to
it.
Overall,
new
york
city,
it's
within
the
discretion
of
counselors
and
so
33
of
the
51
city
councillors
in
new
york,
currently
use
participatory
budgeting
in
their
council
districts.
I
believe
the
most
recent
allocation
was
about
35
million
dollars.
I
H
The
last
year
overall,
in
total,
it's
allocated
more
than
210
million
dollars
for
706
community
projects.
They're
often
capital
projects,
often
first
story.
Budgeting
focuses
on
capital
projects,
not
on
the
operating
budget,
and
we
did
also
look
we're
still
investigating
this,
but
we
did
also
look
at
the
bond
ratings
and
so
far
in
general,
it
doesn't
seem
that
there's
any
discernible
effect
of
participatory
budgeting
on
bond
ratings
in
cambridge,
as
you
all
probably
know,
has
a
triple
a
bond
rating.
It
had
one
before
it
started:
presentatory
budgeting.
It
still
has
one
today.
H
Seattle
is
the
same.
It
also
has
a
triple
a
bond
rating
had
one
before
and
continues
to
have
one
today,
but
the
sample
size
is
obviously
small,
so
it'll
be
hard
to
say
this
with
a
level
of
statistical
significance
and
confidence,
but
there's
no
discernible
effect
that
we've
noted
yet,
but
we're
still
continuing
the
research
and
hoping
to
write
something
up
that
we
can
share
with
you
all.
Thanks.
J
A
K
K
K
These
are
you
know
these
are
very
serious
times
and
we
need
practical
ways
to
put
decisions
directly
in
the
hands
of
those
who
are
most
affected
by
systemic
compressions,
particularly
race
and
class-based
oppressions.
I
just
want
to
thank
councillor
edwards
and
bach
in
particular,
and
others.
You
know
other
councils
who
have
taken
a
risk
to
to
lead
on
this
important
initiative
and
anyone
any
other
counselors
who
may
be
on
the
on
the
fence,
maybe
undecided.
I
would
urge
you
to
support
this
amendment.
D
K
Stagnant
and
unaccountable
budget
process
and
there's
particular
enthusiasm,
especially
for
a
robust
participatory
budgeting
process.
In
fact,
a
growing
program
of
public
assemblies
has
been
undertaken
by
a
collaborative
of
grassroots
groups
already
and
they're
engaging
hundreds
of
residents,
including
on
matters
regarding
city
budget
participator,
participatory
budgeting
is
a
way
to
shift
the
current
dynamic.
K
It
engages
everyday
folks
in
the
civic
life
of
the
city.
Advances
equitable
decision
making
about
public
investments
empowers
innovative
and
democratic,
democratically
determined
solutions
that
are
politically
unpalatable
or
lower
priorities
among
a
range
of
competing
options,
or
they
might
be
financially
unattractive
to
for-profit
developers.
K
K
You
know
a
lot
of
folks
who
want
to
be.
You
know
participating
in
how
to
how
to
build
this.
The
system
out
carefully
and
thoughtfully.
Third
to
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it
creates
an
independent
and
a
sufficiently
resourced
system
to
administer
it.
The
administration
of
it
will
be
will
be
an
important
component
and,
just
as
it
is
on
the
on
the
council
side,
if
you
know
you
all
go
with
the
budget
origination,
it
will
require
significant
administrative
capacity
and-
and
it's
similar
with
the
participation
majority
budgeting.
K
Fourth,
we're
hearing
from
a
range
of
partners
with
with
expertise
in
this
matter
that
it's
important
to
specify
the
equity
goals
in
the
in
the
in
the
language
itself.
In
the
enabling
statute
itself,
we
we
think
it's
important
to
affirm
participation
by
any
boston
resident
with
minimal
barriers
to
participation
and
to
write
into
the
ordinary
into
the
amendment
that
it
requires
linguistic
and
other
kinds
of
accessibility.
K
K
K
We
have
we
we're
working.
You
know
we.
We
have
some
suggestions,
we're
working
on
language
to
send
you
counselor,
but
I
should
just
mention
that
all
this
is
happening
in
the
context
of
further
conversations
with
a
range
of
partners
across
the
city,
and
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
folks
who
want
to
participate,
but
just
need
a
little
more
time
to
to
you
know,
come
up
to
speed
on
what's
already
happened
and
have
discussions
within
their
membership
to
you
know
represent
faithfully
what
their
their
collective
intent
is.
K
K
In
the
same
fiscal
year,
the
fund's
going
to
hold
the
said
monies
for
spending
directly
by
boston
residents,
regardless
of
citizenship
through
a
collective,
accessible,
transparent
and
democratic
pbe
process.
I'm
gonna
say
pv
for
short,
et
cetera.
There's
several.
You
know,
there's
a
further
language
like
that
that
that
sort
of
enshrines
this
as
a
regular
part
of
the
city's.
D
K
K
It's
a
it's
a
you
know
a
bit
of
a
it's
just
something
to
to
consider
and
we're
speaking
with
various
partners
and
we'll
come
back
to
to
this
point
with
some
permanent
recommendations.
Soon.
We're
also
really
interested
in
thinking
through
a
formula
to
increase
the
amount
of
the
budget
allocation
over
time.
K
If
the,
if
the
deliberation
and
decision
making
process
at
the
that's
at
the
community
level,
is
sufficiently
well
developed
and
and
can
handle
the
you
know,
the
the
resources
that
are
coming
through
this
project
there's
a
range
of
guidance
from
participatory
budgeting
experts,
and
then
we
also
feel
like
beyond
what
other
cities
have
done.
Boss,
king
foster,
could
really
shine
and
stand
out
and
create
a
system.
K
K
The
the
pace
of
this
kind
of
growth,
you
know,
would
depend
largely
on
the
infrastructure
that
the
community
partners
are
able
to
build
out.
As
I
mentioned,
there's
already
been
an
assembly
process
across
the
city
and
that
could
expand
into
various
communities.
Various
neighborhoods
and
this
increase
in
funding
could
also
be
used
to
incentivize
participation.
K
You
know
you
could
sort
of
gamify
the
the
the
funding
so
that
greater
participation
results
in
greater
funding,
for
example,
as
a
possibility
and
to
reiterate
these
are
all
you
know,
ideas
and
that
we're
sort
of
considering
not
firm
recommendations.
At
this
point,
we
want
to
make
sure
the
the
the
administrative
structure
is
independent
and
and
there's
sufficient
administrative
capacity
and
funding
to
run
a
proper
but
predicted
budgeting
process
and
then
just
to
enshrine
the.
I
K
A
Participatory,
budgeting,
essentially,
is
we
would
allow
or
require
that
a
certain
percentage
right
now
we're
thinking
one
percent
of
our
budget
that
could
be
36
million
dollars
by
the
way
right.
One
percent
of
our
budget
is
shall
be
allocated
to
as
alex
is
suggesting
an
independent
committee
or
commission,
and
that
they
from
that
steering
committee
led
by
certain
principles
and
values
that
we
enshrine
in
the
enabling
act
that
is
going
to
be
dedicated
to
environmental
justice,
dismantling,
systemic
racism,
so
on
and
so
forth.
A
I
don't
have
the
you
know,
we're
still
working
on
those
things,
but
ultimately
that
money
would
come
in
regularly
to
that
commission
and
that
commission
again
who
sits
on
it.
Those
folks
still
working
on
that,
would
ultimately
help
break
down
further
and
further
how
and
where
that
money
goes
and
the
goal.
A
That
needs
to
happen
to
make
it
real
and
to
give
the
power,
and
then
we
could
pass
as
a
as
a
city
council,
an
ordinance
or
basically
the
charter,
says
y'all
going
for
you,
you're,
going
to
figure
this
out
by
date.
That
gives
us
the
time
and
honestly
for
many
people
julia
and
for
those
of
my
colleagues.
It
gives
the
community
the
the
respect
that
they
feel
that
they
deserve
to
help
design.
How
they're
going
to
be
about
this
process.
A
That's
how
I
think
we
we
kenzie,
bacchus
or
counselor
bach
kind
of
broke
it
down
in
a
way
and
so
going
through
what
alex
and
ced
just
suggested.
There
are
certain
aspects
that
are
about,
for
example,
specifically
the
language
that
he
was
that
they
were
just
discussing.
The
maze
may
do
this.
The
may
do
that
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
making
those
maze
to
shouts
or
wills
so
that
it's
not
an
option
not
to
allocate
certain
funds.
A
That's
one
direct
in
the
amendment
the
that
there
is
a
community
design
or
that
community
is
part
of
the
design.
Does
that
go
on
the
amendment
or
does
that
go
in
the
ordinance,
but
it's
something
I
completely
agree
with.
I
think
it
makes
sense
the
the
fact
that
it
is
an
independent
system
or
commission.
I
see
you
counselor
bach,
I'm
gonna
get
to
you
right.
I
promise
I'm
just
going
through
literally
everything.
A
The
goals
of
that
system
might
need
to
be
called
out
in
the
amendment,
but
then
again
get
filled
out
in
the
commission
or
in
the
ordinance.
The
question
of
who
can
vote
on
it.
That's
a
good
question.
You
know
any
boston
resident
right.
Does
that
get
called
out
specifically
in
this
amendment,
probably
because
it
has
to
be
it
might
be,
in
contrast
with
our
voting
laws
right
now,
then
there's
I
think
I
went
through
your
suggestions
on
working
enabling
process
design
the
steering
committee.
A
This
okay,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
those
are
kind
of
the
two
buckets
overall.
The
goals
adjusted
to
me
give
the
res
the
most
respect
to
the
community
and
again,
the
question
for
us
is
the
placeholders
that
we
put
in
to
give
the
power
so
that
we
vote
on
that
power
in
november
of
2021
and
then
the
design
and
the
process
the
community
needs
we
can
fill
in.
A
So
I
wanted
to
break
that
down
from
my
colleagues
on
the
participatory
budgeting
process
and
what
might
be
helpful,
I
don't
know
if
justin
may
have
had
to
leave
already
if
nicolette
is
still
here
or
anyone
for
you
know,
we
could
follow
up
with
them.
Give
us
examples
of
some
and
also
ced
examples
of
some
of
the
17
cities
that
you
think
are
getting
it
done
right
or
have
good
examples
of
the
certain
language
that
you'd
like
to
see.
A
D
Thank
you
so
much
phantom
chair.
I
just
had
two
quick
comments
and
then
happy.
Do
I
see
that
we
do
still
have
justin
with
us?
I
think
in
addition
to
nicolette,
so
I
want
to
give
him
a
chance
to
say
something.
So
I
would
just
say
two
quick
comments.
I
agree
with
your
analysis
and
I
appreciate
a
lot
of
the
great
suggestions
from
ced.
D
So
thinking
about
that
and
then
the
one
thing
I
would
just
say
about
maze
is
that
it's
it
some
of
the
some
of
the
maze
in
that
language.
It
makes
sense
to
change
to
shalls.
Some
of
them
are
made
that
are
not
actually
about
preventing
the
thing
from
happening,
but
more
about
being
explicit
that
it
can
so,
for
instance,
with
the
fund
right.
Your
normal
city
funds
like
by
default,
often
like
they
end
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
right.
D
D
And
so
I
just
want
to
flag
for
folks
who
are
interested
in
that
that
that's
something
that
we're
very
committed
to
exploring,
and
I
think
there
are
things
we
could
do
there,
but
as
councilor
edwards
said
start,
you
know,
I
think
fit
for
participatory
budgeting
to
be
a
really
regular
and
substantial
democratic
part
of
our
budgeting
process.
We
need
some
of
these
hooks
in
the
charter
that
we
don't
have
right
now
that
counselor
edwards
is
proposing.
So
thank
you
so
much.
Madam.
A
H
H
And
then
you
know,
I
I
think
everything
that
you
know
counselor
bach
has
said
and
the
general
points
that
alex
has
made.
I
I
definitely
agree
with
the
one
thought
that
has
occurred
to
me
as
I've
been
doing
this
research-
and
I
hope
it's
okay,
to
bring
this
up-
is
that
almost
all
the
other
projects
focus
on
the
capital
budget,
and
so
it
might
potentially
make
sense
to
do
this
as
a
higher
percentage
of
the
capital
budget,
which
would
represent
the
same
portion
of
the
city's
overall
budget.
H
Just
you
know,
I
you
all
know
much
more
about
city
budgets
than
I
do,
but
you
know
in
order
to
kind
of
keep
those
those
streams.
Potentially
separate
was
the
thought
that
that
I
had
from
doing
this
research
and
in
terms
of
cities
that
are
doing
it.
Well,
I
think
cambridge
is
doing
a
really
excellent
job.
I
think
you
know
there's
lots
of
good
examples
that
doesn't
seem.
You
know.
H
I
think
the
important
thing
is
to
have,
as
alex
was
saying,
to
have
a
clear,
a
clear
process,
clear
ways
in
which
the
process
engages
the
community
clear
ways
in
which
ideas
are
submitted.
There's
different
ways
that
people
then
that
cities
choose
to
have
those
ideas
developed
into
actual
proposals.
Sometimes
the
city
appoints
a
steering
committee.
H
That
are,
you
know,
a
big
part
of
the
capital
budget,
and
so
I
think
it
is
an
opportunity
to
potentially
have
a
broader
inclusion
of
city
residents
who
may
otherwise
be
excluded
by
age
or
immigration,
status
or
other
factors.
So
that's
something
to
also
potentially
be
explicit
about
in
a
future
ordinance.
Yes,
so
if
there's
any,
if
there's
any
questions,
but
those
are
those
are
my
main
thoughts
at
this
point.
E
Yes
and
thank
you
counselor
edward,
for
always
breaking
it
down,
because
we
have
to
recognize
our
privilege
that
oftentimes
people
are
speaking
in
ways
that
we
don't
understand
and
we
have
to
google
translate
everything
so
you
doing
this
during
these
times.
No
I'm
serious
like
this
is
so
important
for
the
people
who
are
tuning
in
and
really
listening.
So
I
really
do
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
do
that,
not
just
for
my
own
benefit,
but
for
everybody
else,
who's
here,
listening
and
learning.
So
thank
you.
E
K
That
is,
that
is
our
intent,
and
you
know
the
opinion
we've
received
is
that
it's
important
to
enshrine
that
in
the
enabling
statute.
So
yes,
that's
yeah.
As
you
said,
everyone's
paying,
you
know
these.
These
are
public
dollars
that
everyone's
paying
into
and
everyone
should
have
the
right
to
to
determine
how
to
spend
it
without
without
regard
to.
You
know
whether
they're,
undocumented
or
not.
You
know,
for
example,
just
to
make
sure
there's
not
a
point
of
contention
later.
E
Well,
I
like
that.
I
approve
that
and
then
I
guess
for
me,
I
have
a
different
understanding
of
what
participatory
budget
thing
means,
but
I
want
to
see
because
for
me
I
want
to
see
that
the
people
who
participate
participate
in
percent
of
the
budgeting
process,
for
example,
just
because
we
offer
public
testimony
at
ways
and
means
hearing
doesn't
mean
that
people
are
going
to
show
up
or
even
understand
what
it
is
that
we're
doing,
especially
because
it
all
takes
place
oftentimes
during
the
day
and
usually
under
normal
circumstances
in
city
hall.
E
So
I'm
just
wondering
how
we
can
use
this
language
to
put
systems
in
place
that
inc
increases
participation
in
the
entire
budgeting
process.
I'm
just
curious
about
what
that
would
look
like,
and
I
don't
know
who
I
I
don't
know.
This
is
like
I'm
just
throwing
it
out
there
for
us
to
consider
and
really
think
about.
I
mean
I.
E
I
have
to
say
that
you
know
people
this
particular
term,
or
at
least
what
I
learned
is
that
people
were
screaming
and
hollering
for
the
things
that
they
wanted
right
and
it
seemed
like
a
lot
of
those
things.
Were
falling
on
deaf
ears
and
it
just
there
needs
to
be
some
sense
of
accountability
and
and
systems
put
in
place
where
people
can
feel
really
heard
and
and
valued.
And
I
don't
know
what
that
looks
like
in
the
language
drafting
right.
A
So
that's
one
thing.
The
other
thing
with
specifically
participatory
budgeting,
which
is
part
of
this,
but
is
not
the
only
part
of
it,
is
every
place
where
it's
been
implemented.
There
has
been
an
increase
in
civic
engagement
because
people
people
actually
believe
like
they're,
telling
you
the
government,
where
their
money's
going
to
go.
They
feel
a
sense
of
agency
that
they've
never
felt
before
and-
and
I
know
in
cambridge-
they
go
below
18
years
old,
for
example,
to
allow
people
to
vote.
A
I
mean
it's
trying
to
get
people
engaged
it's
trying
to
get
them
to
feel
that
their
vote
matters,
and
it
really
does
because
they're
on
this
section
when
it
comes
to
money,
they're
actually
saying
money
will
go
to
and
then
fill
in
the
blank
and-
and
so
there's
I
mean
I'm
sure
justin
can
fill
in
or
or
ken's
or
anyone
else.
When
you
have
participatory
budgeting
and
the
version
we
have
right
now
with
the
city,
it's
appointed
by
the
mayor
for
the
youth
to
decide.
But
it's
not
a
direct
vote
by
the
people
of
boston.
A
A
That's
it
it's
not
at
all
opposite
it
just
probably
doesn't
need
to
be.
We
don't
need
to
change
the
charter
to
do
that.
Okay,
I
think
we
as
a
body
need
to
sit
back
and
think
you
know
go
back
to
organizing
routes
that
we
already
that
many
of
us
come
from
and
decide.
You
know
how
do
we
talk
about
a
people's
budget?
How
do
we
as
electeds
go
back
to
the
people
and
say
you
know,
break
down
the
process,
but
also
break
down
the
funds
as
district
city
councilors
and
as
at
large
city
councillors?
E
A
E
A
I
D
J
Yeah
there's
totally
two
sides,
or
maybe
three
sides
of
it-
for
one
like
the
budget,
the
participatory
budgeting
process
would
require,
like
a
multi-month
pro
process
before
the
official
budget
process
which,
like
inherently,
would
engage
more
people
before.
But
then
also,
you
know-
and
I'll
say
this
in
my
remarks
that
I'll
say
in
a
second,
but
we
still
have
feedback.
You
know,
maybe
there's
a
need
to
keep
origination
powers
because
there's
a
need
to
for
city
councils
to
hold
meetings.
J
You
know
publicly
to
talk
with
residents
about
what
they
want
to
see
in
the
budget.
You
know
that
chuck
turner
used
to
hold
the
district
7
roundtable
and
talk
about
these
kind
of
things,
and
I
know
you
hold.
You
know
in
other
councils
hold
meetings
like
that.
Similarly,
in
in
the
boston
people's
plan
in
in
organizations
like
famous
for
justice
healing,
they
have
long-term
budgeting
processes
that
include
residents
so
there's
ways
to
partner,
I
think,
with
community
organizations
and
build
a
process.
But
again
maybe
that
doesn't
need
to
go
in
this
charter
amendment.
J
But
maybe
there
does
need
to
be
an
ordinance
to
get
some
staffing
for
city
councillors
to
be
able
to
dig
into
this
stuff
there's
25
staff.
I
think
you
know
for
the
current
budget
process,
and
so
maybe
there
needs
to
be
some
dedicated
staff
for
the
for
you
all,
but
that's
an
ordinance
that
you
all
can
file
and
that
community
would
come
out
and
support
and
yeah.
So
we'd
love
to
be
a
part
of
this.
This
is
a
discussion.
Yeah
and
I'll
talk
more
about
it.
When
it's
my
turn.
F
F
H
F
A
F
Yeah
I
mean
I
just
I
I
just
I
think
it's
a
it
seems
very
complicated,
very
complex
and-
and
we
in
the
city
have
have
experts
that
that
work
on
our
budget.
We
have
a
triple
a
bond
rating.
I
think
us
tinkering
around
with
this
now
when,
when
we're
at
a
point
in
boston
where,
where
we
have
we're
on
a
stable
financial
footing
to
just
to
just
I
mean
one
percent-
maybe
that's
not
so
bad
I'd
rather
go
down
to
what
cambridge
is
doing
a
tenth
or
or
or
two
tenths.
F
If
we're
going
to
use
it
as
just
a
not
just
a,
I
don't
want
to
downplay
it,
but
a
way
to
get
people
involved
in
in
government.
Now,
don't
forget
it's
the
property
owner
that
pays
what
80
of
the
taxes
here.
So
so
what
what?
What
weight
does
the
property
owner
have
in
all
this
we're
talking
about
immigrants,
voting
we're
talking
about
young
kids,
how
many,
how
many?
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
stepped
away.
I
didn't
think
I
was
next
on
the
list.
I
appreciate
everyone's
comments
and
one
of
the
concerns
I
have
and
again
I've
been
in
and
out
of
this
this
session
and
came
in
a
few
minutes
late.
I
wonder
about
today
we
are
in
good
financial
setting,
but
down
the
road
we're
anticipating,
especially
next
year
in
the
in
the
next
few
years,
to
be
particularly
difficult
financial
years,
so
the
the
percentage
is
certainly
important.
G
I
think
that
council
baker's
suggestion
of
making
it
a
smaller
percentage
is
a
worthwhile
discussion,
but
also
want
to
sort
of
appreciate
that
today
we're
in
good
financial
times
what
happens
down
the
road.
So
I'm
not
sure
you
know
that's.
That
is
a
question.
I'm
not
sure
if
anyone
can
answer
sort
of
the
impacts
of
a
financial
situation
at
any
moment
on
this,
but
you
know
carriers
think
it's
a
it's.
A
really
interesting
idea
that
the
mayor's
youth
council
participates
in
a
participatory
budget
process
with
one
million
dollars.
G
M
G
A
So
I
I
think
that
the
answer
to
that
is:
if
the
language
isn't
strong
enough,
that
the
city
has
the
power
to
consider
the
fiscal
health
we
can.
We
can
certainly
strike
that
a
better
balance
we
would
have
to.
I
mean
technically
it's
a
power
in
the
the
thing
that
the
city
has
right
now,
so
peter
and
rich.
I
I
wanted
to
quickly
clue
get
counselor
flynn
and
counselor
janie
to
say
any
comments.
I
haven't
said
anything
so
far
and
then
I'll
go
to
you
for
any
comments.
Counselor
flynn.
N
Thank
you,
council
edwards,
for
your
leadership
on
this
issue.
I
will
be
very
brief.
It's
been
an
informative
discussion,
I'm
learning
a
lot
and
when
my
daughter
was
a
member
of
the
mayor's
youth
council,
I
used
to
like
going
up
there
and
listening
to
the
young
people
talk
about
budgeting
and
what
their
priorities
were.
N
So
I
learned
a
lot
from
the
young
people
of
the
city
just
listening
to
listening
to
these
discussions,
but
you
do
find
a
lot
of
good
ideas
about
what's
happening
in
the
city
and
proposals
from
young
young
people,
especially
young
people
that
are
engaged
again.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership,
counselor
edwards
and
looking
forward
to
learning
more
about
the
proposal.
O
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair,
I'm
joining
very
late
to
the
discussion
so
really
interested
in
hearing
more
from
advocates,
obviously
big
fan
of
youth
participation
and
and
youth
decision
making,
and
would
love
to
figure
out
the
appropriate
ways
to
engage
more
folks
in
our
city,
especially
young
people.
So
at
this
point
I
will
just
continue
to
listen
and
I'm
really
interested
in
hearing
what
some
of
the
advocates
who
are
trying
to
chime
in,
I
have
to
say,
given
how
late
I
am
to
the
discussion.
Thank
you.
M
M
I'm
learning
a
lot
from
the
excellent
work
that
ced
and
and
professor
steele
are
doing
and
hope
to
learn
a
lot
more
just
wanted
to
share
a
couple
of
thoughts
from
what
I've
been
hearing
and
from
looking
at
the
drafting
so
far,
and
I
do
think
there
is
still
plenty
of
work
to
be
done
on
getting
the
shells
and
the
maze
right
and
figuring
out
exactly
how
much
should
be
spelled
out
in
in
the
charter.
There's,
obviously
a
virtue
in
leaving
a
good
bit
to
be
filled
in
in
an
ordinance.
M
M
Two
other
things
that
that
the
comparison
to
other
communities
brings.
To
my
mind
that
I
think
are
are
important
to
be
thought
about,
and
I
I
don't
have
strong
views
on
either
of
these.
The
first
is
the
extent
to
which
some
of
the
participatory
budgeting
should
be
done
at
a
smaller
regional
level
than
at
the
entire
city,
whether
to
be
done
by
district
or
by
some
other
kind
of
unit,
whether
that's
a
way
to
enhance
the
participatory
features
in
a
way
that
would
be
meaningful
again.
M
Other
some
other
communities
have
have
done
that.
I
think
that's
something
you
should
think
about
and
perhaps
should
include
if,
depending
on
the
on,
the
the
council's
view
include
some
language
on
that
in
the
charter,
language
itself,
the
other
one
that
that
I
think
is
noteworthy
and
all
of
you
who
worked
on
municipal
budgets
are
very
sensitive
to
this.
M
A
lot
of
places
that
have
gone
into
participatory
budgeting
have
focused
it
on
capital
items
rather
than
on
operating
budget
items
and
the
the
the
rationale
for
that
is,
I
think
clear
capital
spending
is
much
more
inclined
to
be
one-time
spending.
Operating
spending
is
apt
to
involve
personnel
commitments
and
other
multi-year
commitments
that
are
going
to
be
difficult
to
manage
through
a
participatory
budgeting
process,
not
that
it
can't
be
done,
but
the
more
one-time
expenditures
may
be
the
easiest
and
most
natural
place
to
begin
a
participatory
budgeting
process.
M
A
J
Yeah,
no
thank
you
for
having
us
today.
Thank
you
for
having
this
yeah
just
make
putting
this
forward
cd.
This
is
something
that
we
have
been
working
on
for
a
while
having
organized
a
charter
reform
study
group
years
and
years
ago,
which
a
number
of
you
here
were
participated
in
previous
to
being
an
elected
official.
So
it's
really
cool
to
see
this
come
to
life
and
it
like,
as
a
councilor
flaherty
said.
This
is
something
that
is
older
than
I
am
this
topic
in
the
city
of
boston.
J
So
I
want
to
make
sure
to
like
respond
directly
to
some
of
what
counselors
have
said
to
clarify
and
give
maybe
some
inspiration
on
what
can
be
done
here,
but
yeah.
We
need
to
make
sure
all
this
discussion
does
center
around
solving
the
racial
wealth
gap
and
also
making
sure
that
we're
recognizing
that
we're
using
our
government
to
to
counterbalance
like
the
corporate
capture
of
democratic
processes
like
the
budget
process
like
making
sure
the
rich
and
the
wealthy
do
not
lead
in
the
process.
J
I
mean
that,
like
landowners,
for
example,
aren't
the
ones
that
just
have
all
the
say
in
the
city
process
around
what
is
determined.
You
know,
and
this
isn't
a
conversation
that
is
only
happening
in
boston
in
nashville
and
minneapolis
and
la
all
over
the
country.
Communities
are
talking
about
how
to
change
the
charter,
to
make
it
more
democratic
and
equitable,
both
racially
and
for
people
of
different
status
for
backgrounds
and
right
here
in
boston.
It's
kicking
up
a
lot.
J
I
know
we
look
forward
to
connecting
with
all
of
you
all
like
101,
just
to
talk
more
about
this,
and
I
know
community
groups
plan
to
too
if
they
haven't
already
so
definitely
look
out.
For
that.
You
know.
One
of
the
things
I
was
touched
upon
too
is
like.
Okay
is
this:
you
know
the
budget,
you
know
who
should
originate
and
how
it
should
happen.
That
is
something
that
we
feel
like
you
know,
although
we
may
be
afraid
of
originating
it.
But
again,
I
said
this
before.
J
Maybe
there's
a
need
for
an
ordinance
to
actually
create
an
office
that
supports
counselors,
maybe
that's
something
that
folks
can
talk
about
that
comes
out
of
this.
Also
when
it
comes
to
the
boston,
public
school
budget,
we've
talked
with,
you
know
btu
and
organizations
that
focus
on
the
school,
and
this
is
something
that
they
are
still
trying
to
figure
out.
You
know
their
perspective
on
so
definitely
connect
with
them,
but
I
think
the
overarching
agreement
is
that
communities
want
more
say.
J
Btu
also
got
thousands
of
emails
about
the
budget
as
long
as
you
all,
so,
everybody
is
looking
for
more
ways
to
participate
outside
of
the
current
structures
and
models.
When
we
think
about
you,
know,
communities
who
are
most
impacted
by
this.
The
city
council
now
reflects
a
lot
of
those
communities.
You
know
it's
majority,
woman
majority
minority.
J
That
is
a
change
that
hasn't
been
around
and
we
shouldn't
ignore
that,
when
thinking
about
how
to
how
to
how
to
honor
that
newfound,
like
a
genius
frankly
to
to
the
city,
governance
structure
and
in
the
process
for
for
budgeting,
yeah
and
and
when
it
comes
to
the
actual
capital
or
appreciated
budgeting,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
actually
don't
kind
of
yeah
that
we
don't
that
we
don't
shy
away
from
the
operating
budget.
We
have
met
with
the
people.
J
J
It
is
super
important
for
you
all
to
be
able
to
say
that
you
all
had
every
that
you
did
all
you
could
to
make
sure
communities
got
resources,
as
opposed
to
didn't,
have
the
power
to
do
something
and
didn't
get
and
didn't
give
yourself
the
power
to
do
something.
So,
thanks
again
for
letting
me
be
letting
cd
be
a
part
of
this
conversation
today,
consulate
edwards
and
we
look
forward
to
hearing
some
more
of
y'all's
thoughts
and
connecting
with
you
all
one-on-one.
A
Thank
you.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
now
is
could
go
through
the
rest
of
the
proposed
budget
and
some
suggestions
that
we
have
based
off
of
what
kind
of
the
counselors
had
mentioned,
and
some
of
the
concerns
mentioned
in
the
first
hearing,
and
so
you
guys
should
have
a
redline
version
in
front
of
you
or
sent
out,
and
I
want
to
break
it
down,
because
I
really
am
you
know
in
talking
with
a
lot
of
folks.
A
A
M
M
I
think,
the
the
question
of
how
much
of
the
the
detail
about
participatory
budgeting
to
put
in
is
you
know,
I
I
think
the
the
alex's
remarks
earlier
were
important
on
that
point
and
that
to
some
extent,
if
you're
serious
about
wanting
a
participatory
budgeting
process,
it
may
be
important
to
set
out
some
of
the
criteria
of
what
is
going
to
count
as
a
participatory
budgeting
process
in
the
charter
itself.
Although
a
lot
of
the
details
should
surely
be
left
to
ordinance.
A
Okay,
all
right,
then
I
want
to
make
sure
I
put
it
out
there
that,
if
we,
if,
if
we
felt
but
if,
if,
if
sorry,
I
want
to
put
out
that
suggestion
period
and
then,
but
if
it
seems
like
it
makes
more
sense
to
have
this
breakdown
of
the
the
dates,
the
movement,
the
time
the
push
to
be
clarified,
that
there's
a
process,
that's
clear,
we're
going
to
end
and
get
to
an
end
budget.
Then
I'm
fine
with
that.
Obviously,
so
any
other.
A
And
what
we're
designing
again
is
the
amendment
that
would
go
on
the
ballot
in
november
of
2021
same
day
that
the
mayor's
being
on
on
the
ballot
saying
that
all
of
us
are
on
the
ballot,
okay,
it
would
go
then,
and
the
community,
the
people
of
boston
would
decide.
These
are
powers
that
we
do
or
don't
want
you
to
have.
A
C
C
I'm
tuned
in
here
just
there,
but
no
questions.
Obviously
I
think
our
and
again
this
is
not
a
case
of
first
impression,
given
my
tenure,
but
we're
gonna
have
two
challenges:
we're.
Obviously
we
always
have
a
challenge.
In
the
past,
we've
had
a
challenge
up
at
beacon
hill.
You
know
from
colleagues
in
government
sort
of
not
you
know,
supportive
of
of
our
efforts
to
to
secure,
I
guess
more
power
in
in
the
strong
mayor
form
of
government
and
also
with
the
public.
C
I
know
we
do
great
work
and-
and
we
work
hard
every
day,
all
of
us
together
collectively
as
a
as
a
body-
and
you
know
we're
in
touch
with
a
lot
of
constituents
and
advocacy
groups
on
a
regular
basis
but
sort
of
the
broader
and
the
general
audience
has
also
never
given
us
that
authority
either.
So
we're
gonna
have
to
sell
this
also
to
the
public
and
wage,
maybe
our
own
campaign,
if
it's
as
well
so
just
giving
you
the
full
scoop.
C
You
know
believe
that
a
lot
of
great
things
happening
in
our
city
and-
and
you
know,
as
I've
mentioned
before
we
best
post
having
the
best
colleges,
universities
and
we're
we're
an
opportunity
rich
in
a
resource-rich
city,
and
a
lot
of
folks
want
to
be
in
boston.
A
lot
of
folks
want
to
move
their
companies
to
boston.
A
lot
of
folks
want
to
live
in
boston,
so
we
have.
We
have
a
lot
of
boston,
mojo
going
and
a
lot
of
folks,
particularly
out
in
the
neighborhood,
the
residents
of
taxpayers.
C
C
That's
the
frustrating
standpoint
from
my
perspective,
so
just
want
to
add
that
two
cents
that
you
know
it's
going
to
be
an
effort
beyond
the
hearing
in
the
working
session
we
need
to
the
boston
city
council
is
going
to
need
to
convince
the
public,
the
broader
audience,
the
voters
that
this
is
the
correct
course
of
action
for
the
future
of
our
city,
and
I
think
that's
going
to
be
a
big
test
for
us,
but
but
anyway.
So
I'm
I'm
listen
listening
intently
and
would
like
to
hear
more
from
folks.
A
With
flaherty,
and
just
to
clarify
for
folks,
the
reason
why
this
is
a
direct
vote
from
the
city
of
boston
is
because
the
thought
of
having
to
go
to
the
state
house
about
our
power
makes
me
want
to
vomit,
so
so
so.
This
is
why
this
has
nothing
to
do
with
our
colleagues
at
the
state
house,
with
all
due
respect
to
the
representative,
from
chicopee,
from
sudbury
from
new
bedford
from
fall
river
from
springfield,
who
have
entirely
too
much
power
and
control
over
our
liquor
licenses.
Our
zoning
and
all
these
other
things.
A
A
The
mayor
of
boston
has
taken
these
budget,
these
charter
amendments,
for
example,
getting
rid
of
this
elected
school
committee,
for
example,
creating
the
district
city
council
seats,
taking
them
to
the
state
house
and
asked
for
the
state
house
to
do
his
bidding
rather
than
go
to
the
people
of
boston,
and
so
that
it's
it
is,
it
is
complicated.
It
is
true,
but
yes,
that's
what
the
the
mayor
has
traditionally
done.
C
A
B
B
A
B
B
I
I
feel
really
in
terms
of
the
language
keeping
it
as
clear
and
as
as
as
simple
as
possible,
and
so
that
we
that
that
the
ordinary
folks
on
the
street
can
have
a
good
understanding
of
what
the
the
spirit
of
the
the
ordinary
the
charter
is
and
and
that
they
can
identify
with
why.
This
is
an
important
and
useful
amendment
to
be
making.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
a
few
comments,
so
one
is
just
on
on
counselor
braden's
last
point:
quite
a
number
of
other
places
that
use
participatory
budgeting
have
localized
assemblies
sort
of
in
geographic
areas
and
then
sometimes
the
way
that
works
is
that
they
then
roll
things
up
to
a
larger
conversation.
D
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
a
there's
a
balancing
act
between
that
kind
of
the
hyper
local
buy-in
that
people
get
and
that
sense
of
civic
participation
and
then
the
fact
that,
on
the
other
hand
in
a
especially
in
a
segregated,
racially
and
wealth
and
wealth-wise
like
city,
that
you
do
also
want
to
be
building
kind
of
democratic
participation
across
neighborhoods
and
and
across
community.
And
so
you
know,
I
think
I
think,
there's
to
me.
D
One
of
the
problems
with
our
charter
is
that
it's
littered
with
things
where
people
got
super
specific
about
what
they
wanted
in
that
moment
and
then
later
we
sort
of
shifted.
So
again,
I
do
think
it's
not
there's
a
couple
reasons
to
leave
ourselves
some
bandwidth
here.
One
of
them
has
to
do
with
making
a
simple
case
to
voters
and
passing
it
through,
but
one
of
them
has
to
do
with
the
fact
that
we
may
actually
want
that
bandwidth
down
the
line
to
just
design
the
best
possible
process.
D
But
I
think
the
idea
of
some
of
some
local
engagement
is
a
great
one
and
it's
just
a
question
of
balancing
it
with
that
citywide
dynamic.
Similarly,
I
think
justin
mentioned
the
sort
of
capital
versus
operating
question.
Definitely
the
majority
of
participatory
budgeting
processes
that
I've
looked
at
around
the
country
and
the
world
are
but
are
capital
focused,
and
I
think
you
know
that's,
because
capital
projects
are
so
tangible
and
so
they're
in
some
ways
easy
to
talk
about.
D
I
do
think
I've
certainly
heard
from
advocates
a
real
appetite
to
be
involved
in
the
operating
conversation,
and
I
also
think
that
the
opportunity
to
use
the
participatory
budget
system
to
kind
of
like
pilot
things
on
the
operating
side.
That
then
might
turn
into
things
that
are
part
of
a
permanent
city
budget
process
is
a
good
one
and
something
we
should
be
thinking
about.
There's
a
reason
I
mean.
Obviously,
the
challenge
with
operating
for
a
participatory
perspective
is
that
you
know
when
you
hire
people
to
fill
a
new
function.
D
You
usually
want
them
to
then
continue
to
do
that
function,
especially
if
they
turn
out
to
be
good
at
it.
The
following
year
and
and
you'll
very
quickly,
just
lock
down
your
participatory
budget
funds
with
that.
So
I
think
we
have
to
be
cognizant
and
thoughtful
about
how
you
do
that,
and
I
mean
one
possibility
here.
D
Is
you
say
something
like
you
know
that
the
current
amendment
language
is
not
specific
actually
about
whether
we're
talking
it
says
one
percent
of
the
operating
budget,
but
it's
not
as
like
a
measure,
but
it's
not
actually
specific
about
whether
those
are
funds
that
we
end
up
using
for
operating
our
capital
projects.
We
might
want
to
leave
that
ambiguity.
We
might
want
to
be
more
specific
and
say:
let's
do
half
a
percent
for
capital,
half
a
percent
for
opera.
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
a
conversation
that
we
should
continue
to
have.
D
I
I
I
do
just
really
want
to
stress
that
I
mean
my
experience
really
helping
to
run
the
community
preservation
act.
Campaign
and
talking
to
thousands
of
voters
is
that
we
really
want
to
think
about
making
this
a
clear
and
simple
case
for
voters
and
that
the
more
like
you
like,
the
more
technical
details,
you
embed
in
something
the
more
you
give
people
one
technical
detail.
D
That
for
them
is
like
reason
enough
to
vote
no
on
something,
and
especially
if
you
have
a
no
campaign,
there
can
often
be
a
cynical
effort
to
grab
a
hold
of
a
tactical
detail
like
that.
I
think
we
routinely
see
that
in
our
state
ballot
questions,
and
so
I
would
just
really
hazard.
I
know
the
temptation
on
the
advocate
side
to
try
to
lock
into
the
charter
all
the
things
that
we
want,
but
having
actually
fought
one
of
these
campaigns.
D
They're
going
to
look
at
it
and
then
they're
going
to
try
to
evaluate
well
do
I
think
the
mayor
should
originate
in
the
second
week
of
april,
and
of
course,
the
thing
we
haven't
talked
about
today
is
at
the
timeline.
The
timeline
reasons
have
to
do
with
also
our
city,
assessors
valuation
timeline
and
the
time
we
actually
know
how
much
money
we
have
to
spend
so
to
counsel
mejia's
question.
D
I
think
part
of
the
the
virtue
of
having
a
participatory
budgeting
fund
that
can
run
across
fiscal
years
and
some
things
that
we
could
do
on
the
council
side
is
definitely
to
start
conversations
earlier
and
to
consider
continue
conversations
longer.
But
we're
always
going
to
be
a
little
bit
constrained
by
the
actual
fiscal
estimate
of
what
our
tax
revenues
are
and
when
that
comes
out,
and
I
don't
really
think
the
people
of
boston
like
the
people
could
say
yeah.
We
should
know
that
by
early
march
and
like
it,
we
won't
right.
D
So
I
just
think
that
I
guess
I'm
curious
counselor
edwards,
if
maybe
to
help
focus
the
the
ballot
amendment
conversation
and
what
the
voter
sees
when
they
go,
which
is
all
of
the
language
we
could
look
at
if
there's
a
way
to
basically
just
be
functionally
adding
to,
and
maybe
like
striking
a
little
bit
of
kind
of
the
current
thing
without
without
reprinting
a
massive
amount
of
the
timeline
stuff.
Because
I
do
think
we
need
the
timeline
stuff
and
peter's
right
about
that.
D
A
Agreed
and
I
think,
if
there's
a
way
to
get
us
to
a
streamlined
description
of
the
process
that
doesn't
bog
down
or
confuse
people,
because
I've
been
trying
to
you
know,
I've
said
it
several
times.
This
is
three
buckets.
Really
three
buckets
three
major
changes:
how
we
participate
and
engage
with
the
mayor
right
and
how
we're
able
to
amend
the
budget
and
ways
we
were
able
to
do
so
before
how
we're
able
to
amend
bps's
budget
and
then
be
participatory
budgeting.
A
Those
are
the
three
major
changes
that
we
are
bringing
about
and
so
being
able
to
make
sure
that
the
we
are
able
to
talk
that
way,
but
also
that
this
is
not
being
repetitious
when
it's
not
necessary,
I
think,
is
spot
on
counselor
box.
So
thank
you
and
we
could
work
on
that
and
just
just
a
note
to
the
colleagues
I
mean
I
love
the
thought
of
us
as
a
council
doing
a
campaign,
but
this
is
really
ced
and
the
people's
campaign
as
well,
and
it
was
before
we
were
even
talking
about
this.
A
So
so,
let's
the
reason
why
they're
here
is
because
ced's
buy-in
and
their
ability
to
move
this
is
vital
for
us
as
well.
So
I
wanted
just
to
let
people
know
this
is
this:
is
not
city
council
move
city
council
organized
this
is
this
is
bigger
and
I
just
want
to
give
credit
to
those
in
ced
and
other
organizations
that
are
doing
doing
the
damn
thing
so
so
counselor
mejia.
E
E
E
I
think
that
that
is
really
important,
especially
during
this
a
day
and
age,
and
then
the
last
thing
that
I'd
like
to
just
kind
of
put
out
there
and
counselor
edwards.
I'm
sure
you
will,
let
me
know
along
here,
but
I'm
just
going
to
say
it
anyways
is
that
I'd
like
for
us
to
think
about
how
we're
utilizing
this
process
for
the
operating
budget
around
issues
of
mental
health
and
trauma-informed
practices?
E
You
know
police
budget
and
things
of
that.
The
things
that
I
think
oftentimes
get
lost
in
conversations,
but
are
what
we
in
certain
communities
are
struggling
with
the
most.
Is
there
an
opportunity
for
us
to
kind
of
bring
that
into
this
conversation
and
if
not,
maybe
it's
an
another
ordinance
or
maybe
some
other
way,
but
I
just
think
it's
important
for
us
to
name
the
fact
that
you
know
issues
of
mental
health
and
trauma
the
police
budget
and
all
of
those
things
are
things
that
I
hear
a
lot
from
the
streets.
A
It
absolutely
does,
I
think,
if
at
anything
it's
inspired
because
of
the
conversations
you
were
having
during
this
budget
process.
This
is
inspired
by
that
because
we,
I
didn't,
feel-
and
I
think
many
of
my
colleagues
didn't
feel-
and
I
think
you
didn't
feel
either
we
had
the
ability
to
respond
directly
directly
to
the
the
requests
of
a
lot
of
our
constituents.
We
we
weren't
able
to.
We
don't
have
that
power,
counselor
mejia,
and
so,
when
we
think
of
the
pain
right
now,
people
come
to
us
with
pain.
A
They
don't
come
to
us
with
budgetary
ass.
They
say
this
hurts
right
now.
I
can't
afford
this.
I
can't
afford
that
you
could
talk
about
triple
bond
ratings.
All
you
want.
You
can
talk
about
this
golden
age
of
boston.
All
we
want
a
lot
of
our
constituents
aren't
experiencing
that
right,
and
so
this
is
what
allows
us
to
say
this
budget
doesn't
reflect
that.
Mr
mayor,
we
need
this
done.
E
And
then
I
have
another
question
about
the
the
education
budget,
so
I
went
to
every
single
boston,
public
school
you
could
imagine,
and
what
I
have
seen
happen
is
that
every
resource
has
been
stripped
away.
You
know
we
don't
have
swimming
pools
anymore,
we
don't
have
a
home,
we
just
don't
have
anything,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
that
is
because
we
haven't
had
a
voice
in
in
what
that
budget
looks
like
right
and
year
after
year.
E
I
see
that
we
continue
to
defund
our
schools
and
I'm
just
curious,
as
we
start
thinking
about
this
conversation
that
we're
having
are
we
going
to
have
an
opportunity
to
really
lean
into
some
of
the
things
that
we'd
like
to
push
to
see
be
restored
back
in
our
schools?
Is
that
part
of
the
would
that
would
this
conversation
give
us
the
opportunity
to
do
that?.
A
It
would
give
us
more
of
an
opportunity
than
we
have
right
now,
because
it
would
still
go
through
its
normal
process
of
the
school
committee
originating
the
budget
and
passing
a
budget.
Then
it
comes
to
us
as
it
already
does
to
be
approved,
but
we
would
be.
We
have
the
power
now
to
amend
it
once
it
comes
to
us.
E
Okay,
but
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
amplify
that,
and
the
last
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
once
we
start
doing
this
campaign,
I
know
that
it's
not
going
to
be
led
by
us,
but
I
think
it's
really
important
for
us
to
think
about.
You
know
multilingual,
and
I
want
to
be
really
super
mindful
that
not
everybody
knows
how
to
read
or
write
yeah.
A
G
George,
I
thank
you.
Ma'am
chair,
I
don't
have
any
other.
I
don't
have
additional
questions.
I
have
really
appreciated.
The
conversation
today
have
learned
a
tremendous
amount
through
this
conversation
and
look
forward
to
whatever
the
next
steps
are
and
the
maybe
the
the
next
sort
of
rendition
of
this
effort.
Thank
you,
ma'am
chair.
N
Thank
you,
councillor
edwards,
it's
been
an
informative
discussion.
Learning
about
this
proposal
just
want
to
highlight
two
two
points.
If
I
may
one
is
I
haven't,
I
haven't
really
studied
the
proposal
at
great
length
yet,
but
one
point
that
counseling
made
about
making
sure
that
you
know
residents
that
don't
speak
english
or
speak
another
language
other
than
english
have
full
access
to
material
and
we
communicate
effectively
with
them
in
their
language.
I
think
is
critical.
N
N
You
know
after
action
report
or
what
went
well
or
what
challenges
you
had,
or
were
there
any
financial
issues
in
the
budget,
any
any
type
of
issues
that
came
up
during
this
when
this
plan
was
enacted
or
implemented,
I
should
say
I
would
be
interested
in
reading
those
types
of
reports
to
see
how
it
was
implemented
in
other
areas,
other
cities
and
what
the
outcomes
were
both
both
positive
and
negative.
I
think
that
could
be
helpful
to
us
as
we
as
we
discuss
and
consider
what
our
position
is.
A
And
and
counselor
flynn,
I
want
you
to
know
that
we
took
that
very
seriously.
I
think
councilor
baker
had
specifically
asked
of
justin
our
professor
at
mit
to
break
down
participatory
budgeting
and
he
will
have
a
treatise
for
all
of
us
to
read
because
he
is
he's
doing
extensive
research
not
only
on
the
different
forms,
but
also
on
the
fiscal
impacts
on
city
budgets.
So
we
will
absolutely
see
that
and
so
far
it
is
good
news.
A
N
A
Before
you
got
on,
justin
had
mentioned
there's
about
30
nationwide,
but
17
that
are
they
do
it
through
their
budgetary
process,
which
is
what
we
do,
seattle
being
one
of
them.
It's
a
little
bit
larger
than
us,
but
I
would
say,
probably
more
comparable
in
terms
of
its
you
know
capacity,
and
so,
but
I
will
we
can
get
that
lift
to
you
as
well,
but
this
is
this
is
not
new
and
there's
several
cities
also
considering
and
growing
into
this
space
as
well.
J
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
add-
I
think
it's
important
for
folks
to
know
this
is
done
in
over
1400
cities
and
towns
across
the
the
globe.
So,
like
you
know,
outside
of
the
u.s
also,
this
is
a
model.
That's
used,
I
believe
in
paris.
They
they
do
about
100
million
euros
of
participatory
budgeting,
so
I
figure,
if
they
can
do
it
over
there
across
the
lake,
we
can
right.
N
O
Hey,
I
wonder
from
the
advocates
you
mentioned:
armani
just
mentioned
france.
What
experiences
have
you
had
so
here
in
the
city
of
boston,
in
terms
of
who
pays
into
the
pot
and
then
who
benefits
from
the
pot?
It's
you
know
it's
very
few
people
are
paying
property
tax.
How
do
you
get
beyond
that
tension?
K
I'm
happy
to
I'm
happy
to
to
feel
this
counselor
totally
appreciate
your
your
question.
This
is
a
structural
issue.
You
know,
and
I
think,
before
you
got
on,
we
were
talking
about
the
importance
of
writing
in
to
the
into
the
language
the
specific
equity
goals
that
we're
trying
to
get
at
you
know.
So
this
is
so
this
is
we.
We
are
intentional
about
how
we
go
about
this
and,
as
our
money
pointed
out,
this
is
something
that's
tried
and
true
in
hundreds
of
cities
around
the
world,
it
originated
in
brazil.
K
You
know
like
that,
and
if
we
see
this
as
a
as
a
way
to
remedy
long-standing
structural
problems,
you
know
and
we
and
we
build
it
out
in
a
way-
that's
really
meaningful
to
our
communities.
You
know
this
is
a
game.
Changer
and
and
boston
has
a
chance
now
to
lead
the
rest
of
the
country.
Really
you
know
and
thinking
about
how
we
how
we
put
this
out.
So
I
also
want
to
recognize
counselor
braden's
point
about
increasing
participation
through
maybe
potentially
neighborhood
based.
K
I
K
There's
a
lot
of
demand
that
we're
seeing
at
the
local
level
as
well
as
counselor
flynn's.
Excuse
me
suggestion
about
the
language
or
you
know,
stressing
the
importance
of
language
access.
That's
one
way
we
can
ensure
people
participate
and
and
have
a
voice
when
they
when
they
haven't
before
in
the
traditional
budget
process.
So
this
is
definitely
a
a
way
to
repair.
J
It's
about
resource
and
then
also
how
you
include
folks
in
new
york,
for
example,
they
have
the
pacific
budgeting,
show
up
at
train
stations
at
you
know
like,
for
example,
nubian
square
they'd
show
up
there,
so
they
so
you
got
to
meet
people
where
they're
at,
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
beautiful
things
that
you're
able
to
do.
But
again
that
was
that's
part
of.
I
think
the
next
discussion
and
then.
O
And
that's
more
the
discussion
that
I'm
talking
about,
because
obviously
I
think
you've
got
to
be
intentional
and
and
laser-like
focus
when
we're
talking
about
racial
equity
and
and
real
democracy
in
terms
of
who
can
participate.
So
I
appreciate
that
you
know
that
that
will
be
hammered
out
further
in
the
discussion.
I
guess
it's
more
of
like
a
political
or
organizing
strategy
type
question,
but
you
know
there
will
be
opportunity.
Alexa
stop
there'll,
be
opportunities
to
excuse
me.
I'm
sorry,
there'll
be
opportunities.
I
would
assume
to
further.
O
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Counselor
janie
we're
at
10
minutes
to
to
12
o'clock.
I
tend
to
run
a
tight
ship
if
you
guys
didn't
know
that
by
now.
So
I
see
peter
and
rich,
you
raised
your
hand
and
then
I'm
gonna
do
some
concluding
kind
of
explanation
of
remarks
of
what
we're
gonna
do
next,
so
go
ahead.
Peter.
M
So,
very
briefly,
first
of
all,
I
I
can't
say
how
admiring
I
am
of
those
of
you
on
the
council
for
the
the
time
and
thoughtfulness
that
you're
putting
into
this
matter.
It's
really
important
and
I
honor
the
fact
that
you're
doing
it-
and
I
completely
understand
why
the
focus
of
so
much
of
today's
discussion
has
been
on
the
participatory
budgeting,
which
is
a
really
interesting
and
important
innovation.
M
I
just
wanted
to
throw
in
a
couple
of
quick
comments
on
the
other
major
structural
change
that
that
the
proposed
amendment
would
involve,
which
is
the
shift
in
the
balance
of
power
between
the
mayor
and
the
council,
and
you
know
this
is
a
respect
in
which
boston
is
uncharacteristic
of
other
communities
in
massachusetts
and
of
many
other
cities
around
the
country.
The
the
more
typical
process
is
one
where
the
executive,
the
mayor,
proposes
a
budget
and
the
legislature.
M
The
council
then
has
broad
authority
to
reduce
items,
to
increase
items,
to
add
new
items,
to
add
restrictive
language
about
existing
items
in
boston.
You
don't
have
that
kind
of
power.
Your
power
is
to
take
the
budget
proposed
by
the
mayor
and
make
reductions
if
you're
not
happy
with
the
amount
he
proposes.
He
or
she
proposes
to
spend
the
that
change
in
the
proposed
amendment,
which
would
allow
the
council
the
power
to
alter
the
proposed.
M
On
that
point,
let
me
just
note
one
thing
in
in
the
language
that
that
was
circulated
recently,
which
is
so
what
happens
after
the
council
has
enacted
its
budget
and
the
the
proposed
language
then
gives
the
mayor
the
opportunity
to
respond
to
the
council's
budget
by
again
making,
as
I
understand
the
language,
any
changes,
that's
a
somewhat
unusual
approach.
A
more
typical
approach
is
to
give
to
the
executive
a
line
item
veto
authority
in
which
they
can
reduce,
but
cannot
introduce
additional
or
increase
authorized
spending.
M
That's
something
that
would
undermine
the
notion
that
the
power
of
the
purse
is
ultimately
a
legislative
power
if
it
allowed
the
mayor
after
receiving
the
council's
budget
back
to
increase
items
as
opposed
to
simply
to
reduce
them.
And
so
I
I
I'm
not
sure
what
the
the
rationale
for
that
language
was.
But
it
was
a
little
bit
surprising
to
me
and
at
least
unusual
and
perhaps
questionable.
A
That's
an
excellent
point,
so
you're
specifically
talking
to
the
part
the
mayor
so
just
to
walk
my
colleagues
through
no
later
than
the
way
that
it
would
work
is
the
mayor
no
later
than
april
wednesday.
The
second
wednesday
in
april
will
submit
to
the
city
council
the
annual
budget,
unless
the
council
is
doing
the
originating
the
current
expenses,
and
so
no
so
on
and
so
forth.
A
No
later
than
the
second
wednesday
in
june,
the
city
council
should
take
a
definite
action,
which
is
what
we
have
to
do
now
on
the
annual
budget
by
adopting
amending
or
rejecting
it
in
the
event
of
their
failure
to
act
on
a
budget
submitted
by
the
mayor,
the
items
and
the
appropriation
orders
recommended
by
the
mayor
shall
be
in
effect
as
formally
adopted.
So
we
don't
move.
Then
it's
it's
done.
It's
it's
enacted
by
the
mayor
in
june.
That's
kind
of
what
we
do
now.
The
mayor
shall
have
then
seven
days.
A
A
M
Well,
you'd
probably
have
to
spell
out
the
language
a
little
more
but
may
reduce
any
particular
line.
I'm
it
would
be
worth
taking
a
look
at
there's
similar
language
in
the
massachusetts
state
constitution,
about
the
governor's
power
upon
receiving
a
budget
from
the
legislature
that
that
is
codifying
a
line,
item,
veto
power
and
there's
lots
of
good
case
law
and
what
that
does
and
doesn't
authorize.
That's
probably
a
good
place
to
look
for
language.
A
A
A
D
Yeah
extremely
brief,
just
done
that
with
peter.
I
I
first
of
all
I
I
really
want
to
echo
what
he
said
about
the
fact
that
you
know
the
town
committees
statewide
are
able
to
do
more
to
their
budgets
than
we
are,
and
I
just
think
it's
really
important
to
stress
that
asymmetry
here
and
then
to
this
last
point
yeah.
I
think
I
I'd
also
love
to
look
at
this
a
bit.
I
think
it
has
to
do.
I
think
what
counselor
edwards
was
doing
was
paralleling
in
a
certain
way.
D
Our
current
process,
but
that
has
to
do
with
the
whole
reason
we
just
reject
the
budget.
Every
june
is
because
it's
the
only
way
in
our
system
for
the
mayor
to
give
us
back
something
different,
because
we
don't
have
these
powers,
but
obviously,
once
we
have
these
powers,
we
don't
necessarily
need
that
step
in
the
same
way
so-
and
I
would
not
expect
once
we
had
this
power
for
the
council's
standard
vote-
to
be
a
vote
to
reject
the
budget,
because
now
we
would
be
amending
the
budget,
so
I
feel
like
yeah.
D
A
A
Extreme
gratitude,
so
it
is
now
11
58,
I'm
running
the
tightest
shift,
so
I'm
going
to
just
conclude
in
the
next
two
minutes,
with
what
we're
gonna
do
next
and
what
what
is
before
the
council.
We're
gonna
finish
this
amendment.
This
council
will
finish
a
draft
of
this
amendment
and
we
are
on
a
timeline.
According
to
the
statute
43b,
we
must
take
a
final
action
on
this,
which
means
I
will
come
to
my
colleagues
and
ask
that
they
vote
on
this.
A
A
What
I'm
asking
of
my
colleagues
is
that
you
allow
for
this
to
go
forward
that
it's
worth
the
conversation,
it's
worth
the
organizing
it's
worth
the
people
having
a
choice,
and
that's
that's!
That's!
What's
going
to
happen
so
we're
going
to
continue
to
work
on
this
language.
We
might
have
one
more
working
session
to
present
final
language
or
proposed
final
language.
Having
incorporated
all
of
your
concerns
and
questions
as
we
have
so
far,
and
then
we
will
present
to
this
body
for
vote.