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Description
Docket #0216, an ordinance to establish guidelines for permitting retail residential kitchens and;
Docket #0415, an order regarding a text amendment for the Boston Zoning Code to add retail residential kitchens as an accessory home occupation
A
A
Sorry,
okay,
all
right
then,
good
morning,
everyone,
I
am
city
councilor,
lydia,
edwards,
chair
of
the
committee
on
government
operations,
thursday
march
25th
2021,
and
we're
here
today
for
a
virtual
working
session
on
docket0216,
an
ordinance
to
establish
guidance
guidelines
for
permitting
retail
residential
kitchens,
referred
to
the
committee
on
january,
13,
2021
and,
and
also
this
is
a
combined
working
session
on
docket
five
010415
order
regarding
a
text
amendment
for
the
boston
zoning
code
to
add
retail
residential
kitchens.
A
As
an
accessory
home
occupation
referred
to
the
committee
on
march
10th,
the
sponsor
of
both
dockets
is
counselor
mejia.
In
accordance
with
governor
baker's
2012
march
12
2020
executive
order.
We
have
been
modifying
our
meeting
to
allow
for
us
to
meet
virtually.
This
helps
us
to
balance
the
current
public
health
crisis
with
the
ability
to
do
our
jobs.
The
public
may
watch
this
hearing
via
live
stream
at
www.austin.gov
city
dash,
council
dash
tv
and
on
xfinity
8,
rcn82
and
verizon
964..
It
will
also
be
rebroadcasted
at
a
later
date
for
public
testimony.
A
So
again,
these
were
two
or
there's
one
in
ordinance
and
one
is
a
text
amend
for
the
boston
zoning
or
for
the
for
the
zoning
code.
The
ordinance
will
amend
the
zoning,
the
boss,
the
city
of
boston
code,
by
allowing
for
retail
residential
kitchen
permits
to
prepare
cottage
foods.
Operators
of
retail
residential
kitchens
would
be
required
to
comply
with
the
state
sanitary
code
and
will
be
subject
to
annual
inspections
by
the
health
division
of
the
city's
isd
department.
A
This
is
under
the
ordinance
the
proposed
text
amendment
will
allow
residential
kitchens
as
an
accessory
use
as
of
right,
which
might
help
us
to
forego
the
zba
so
participating.
Today
I
have
for
my
my
colleagues,
counselor
liv
braden
counselor,
of
course,
the
lead
sponsor
counselor,
mejia
and
myself
and
then,
in
terms
of
the
administration.
A
We
have
commissioner
dion
irish
chief
of
staff
of
isd.
Chris
english
isd,
health
inspector
dan
prendergast,
we
have
deputy
director
regulatory
planning
and
zoning
of
the
bpda
brian
glascott.
A
We
have
also
brian
fire
marshall,
brian
pitelli
and
we've
been
joined
by
councillor
bach
as
well,
and
I'm
making
sure
I
got
everyone
for
the
administration.
Oh
commissioner,
jack
dempsey,
my
apologies
from
the
fire
from
boston
fire
department,
and
I
think
I
have
everyone
from
the
administration
and
from
the
and
from
from
like
from
the
city
council.
We've
also
been
joined
by
andre
and
zazari.
Who
is
an
advocate
for
residential
kitchens
and
I
don't
know,
is
manisha
here
today
manisha
may
be
joining
us
counselor.
A
Well,
I'll
just
say
their
names
and
they
may
join
us
later
on
you're
on
mute.
We
we
have
been
joined
by
and
may
be
joined
by,
manisha
sethi
from
technology
engineer
from
indaleesh
and
irene
nakabonsh.
A
Founder
of
monye
juices,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
allow
for
some
very
brief
kind
of.
I
guess
studying
or
you
know
kind
of
remarks
from
the
lead
sponsor
of
both
matters
and
then
we're
going
to
get
to
the
working
session
and
have
the
administration
kind
of
go
through
language
suggestions
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
counselor.
B
Mejia
hi.
Sorry,
can
you
hear
me
now
I'm
having
internet
issues
so
sorry
to
bust
your
eardrums
there.
So
thank
you
again
to
the
chair
for
moving
all
of
this
along
really
greatly
do
appreciate
your
support
in
this.
I
just
wanted
to
provide
some
brief
remarks.
This
working
session,
we
have
added
a
new
document,
a
new
docket
for
this
discussion.
In
addition
to
our
ordinance
regarding
permanent
permits
for
retail
kitchens,
we
have
added
the
text
amendment.
As
you
already
heard,
counselor
edwards
gave
us
the
rundown.
B
The
goal
is
to
ensure
that
this
is
the
process
that
this
process
is
as
easy
as
possible
for
entrepreneurs
to
get
ready
their
businesses
started.
Without
the
sony
amendment.
These
entrepreneurs
will
have
to
seek
a
sony
variants,
get
written
permission
from
their
landlord
and
deal
with
a
lot
of
red
tape.
We
hope
to
see
that
the
ordinance
and
the
zoning
amendments
pass
through
so
that
the
process
to
start
a
retail
residential
kitchen
is
as
easy
as
filling
out
a
permit
application.
B
I'm
taking
a
food
safety
course
and
getting
inspection
of
your
kitchen
in
regards
to
the
ordinance
we
have.
We
have
made
some
changes
since
the
last
working
session
chief
staff,
chris
english,
recommended
that
we
put
a
few
additions
to
the
compliance
section
around
the
signage
and
the
requirements
to
include
the
permit
number
on
advertisements,
and
we
have
added
both
of
these
and
hope
that,
with
these
edits
made
we're
in
a
position
to
pass
this
through.
Thank
you.
B
I
guess
when
it's
my
turn,
I
just
have
a
few
things
that
I'd
like
to
to
raise.
Thank
you
so
much
to
my
colleagues
to
joining
us.
A
Thank
you.
We've
also
now
been
joined
by
counselor
ed
flynn,
so
in
terms
of
counselors
everyone,
I
don't
know
if
everyone
has
the
updated
redline
kind
of
version
or
the
most
recent
version
of
the
text.
Amendment
and
the
ordinance.
C
A
A
Excellent
okay,
perfect
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
follow
along
and
counselors.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
start
with
any
other
question
if
you
would
like
to
start
with
questions,
or
it
might
make
more
sense
for
the
administration
to
go
through
whatever
suggestions
that
they
have
counselor,
he
do
you
have
a
preference.
A
B
A
You
so
I'm
actually
going
to
turn
it
over
bro
very
quickly
to
the
commissioner
and
the
the
fire
marshal.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
language
and
as
it's
written
or
any
concerns
that
you
specifically
had
were.
D
Good
morning,
everyone
I
haven't
seen
the
actual
the
written
version,
but
the
the
changes
that
that
comes
from
here
mentioned
what
we're
looking
for
so
as
far
as
the
ordinance
itself
have
no
concerns
there.
That's
my
only
remaining
concern
would
be
around
the
zoning
piece
of
it
and
I
totally
understand
and
agree
with
trying
to
make
this
as
easy
as
possible
and
reduce
obstacles.
D
But
I
do
you
know
think
that
we
should,
you
know,
have
some
conversation
at
least
about
whether
or
not
it
should
be
and
not
requiring
any
zoning
approval.
If
someone
is
establishing
a
business
in
the
home
where
there's
pedestrian
traffic
directed
to
that
person's
door,
that's
the
only
thing
that
concerns
me,
the
other
parts
of
it,
whether
it
be
sales
by
delivery
or
otherwise.
You
know
I'm
perfectly
comfortable
that
that
you
know
those
could
be
allowed
uses,
if
approved
by
the
zoning
commission.
D
But
you
know,
should
there
be
some
language
in
that
zoning
amendment
to
at
least
allow
some
community
process
when
a
business
will
lead
to
direct
foot
traffic
to
someone's
door?
You
know,
example
a
customers.
You
know
going
to
that
person's
door
to
purchase
something.
A
Understood
any,
and
I
will
any
other
comments
from
either
the
commissioners
or.
E
Oh
good
morning,
good
morning,
so
I
from
the
fire
department
point
I
don't
I
don't
think
there's
anything
we
can
add
to
this
ordinance.
Certainly
there's
no
exemption
for
following
any
of
the
fire
regulations,
dealing
with
smoke,
detectors
and
and
even
even
fire
extinguishers
being
added.
So
that's
all
stuff
that
can
be
done
as
we
go
along.
It
may
pick
up
our
running
a
little
bit
with
the
you
know.
E
Our
concern
would
be
that
disabling
the
smoke
detectors
at
some
point.
So
that's
a
concern
of
mine,
but
that's
that's
something
that
nobody
should
be
doing
anyway.
So
that's
I
don't
see
how
you
can
really
address
that
in
this
ordinance.
So
it
is
a
concern
of
ours
but,
like
I
said
I
other
than
other
than
those
small
concerns
and
they're,
not
small
concerns.
I
shouldn't
say
that,
but
I
think
this
looks
good.
A
Okay,
so
just
to
give
folks
some
context,
we're
gonna
go
now
into
the
into
the
language,
but
in
terms
of
safety
concerns
and
in
terms
of
the
permitting
in
this
process.
This
is
already
again
allowed
by
state
law
and
what
the
city
of
boston
is
doing
is
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
come
up
with
a
procedure
for
permitting
which
state
law
basically
says.
A
That's
the
role
of
the
city
or
the
municipality,
and
so,
if
folks
can
open
up
we're
going
to
go
through
the
residential
kitchen,
ordinance
first
and
the
edits
that
we
put
in
and
suggested
by
the
administration
and
then
we're
going
to
go
to
the
text,
amendment
itself
so
again
we're
looking
at
section
one.
A
This
would
be
an
ordinance
that
basically
amends
and
allows
for
retail
residential
kitchens.
We
define
cottage
this
cottage
food
operation,
and
then
we
define
cottage
foods
and
it
does
make
very
clear.
Retail
residential
kitchens
may
not
prepare
finished
products
that
require
hot
or
cold
folding
for
safety,
including
meat
or
fish.
That
is
raw
or
heat
treated.
A
Then-
and
this
is
where
the
amendments
really
start
and
the
red
lines
in
c-
it
says:
retail
residential
kitchens
is
any
cottage
food
operation
that
sells
directly
to
the
consumer
with
respect
to
zoning
code
2a,
which
states
that
merchandise
cannot
be
sold
from
the
home.
So
we
make
that
very
clear
that
it
cannot
be
sold
directly
from
the
home
permits.
A
A
B
Oh
yes,
and
in
regards
to
removing
the
landlord
requirement,
we
only
put
that
in
there
because
the
landlord
will
have
to
know
if
there
was
going
to
be
any
changes
in
the
usage
of
the
apartment,
because
we
have
filed
this
text
amendment,
I'm
hoping
that
there's
no
longer
a
need
for
that.
B
We
wouldn't
need
to
get
landlord
approval
for
a
piano
tutorer.
You
don't
need
to
do
it
if
you're
a
math
teacher,
and
if
our
zoning
amendment
passes
you
won't
need
it
for
the
residential
kitchens
either.
A
Okay,
the.
A
Okay
and
then
the
the
other
amendment
was
to
remove
approval
from
the
boston
zba
as
well.
That's
in
c
right
above
it
just
making
sure
that
that
was
for.
That
is
consistent
with
the
zoning.
The
text
amendment
that
you
filed,
that's
why
that
is
removed.
A
Right
so
you're
doing
it
to
be
consistent
with
the
amendment.
Okay,
just
making
sure
we
walk
through
all
of
the
suggestions.
I
see
your
hands
raised
counselors.
I
want
to
make
sure
we
go
through
all
of
the
red
lines.
First,
then,
we'll
go
back
through
questions
and
suggestions.
Okay,
so
that's
so
that's
the
permitting
section.
That's
where
the
red
line
happened.
I
don't
believe
there's
any
questions
from
the
first
edits
were
under
definitions.
We
just
did
permits
where
we
discussed
two
edits
to
the
ordinance
now
we're
in
training.
A
The
isd
will
ensure
that
residential
kitchen
permits
permatease
and
anyone
working
in
the
kitchen
is
certified
through
a
nationally
accredited
food
safety
certification,
exam
organization
recognized
in
massachusetts.
That's
put
in.
A
A
A
A
Then,
b
there
will
be
a
requirement
to
include
the
permit
number
on
advertisements.
I
believe
that
came
from
isd.
The
permit
number
issued
by
the
department
shall
be
included
in
all
retirements,
promoting
the
cottage
food
operation.
The
other
suggestion
came
from
isd,
I
believe,
was
signage.
No
exterior
signage
shall
be
allowed
unless
such
signage
is
permitted
under
the
zoning
code
chapter
16-33
of
the
city
code.
I
believe
that
was
also
suggested
by
isd
penalties
and
a
person
found
to
be
operating
a
retail
kitchen
in
violation
of
this
section,
she'll
be
well.
A
She
should
be
fined
up
to
30
or
excuse
me
300
a
day
that
is
staying
the
same
and
then
enforcement.
The
provisions
of
this
section
may
be
enforced
in
accordance
with
the
non-criminal
disposition
process
of
mgl,
the
chapter
40
section
21d
and
chapter
40:
u,
as
accepted
by
the
city
of
boston,
both
of
those
that
language
stays
the
same.
A
I
think
that
was
the
edits
for
that
section
and
then,
to
finish
the
commissioner
of
the
inspectional
services
shall
promulgate
rules
and
regulations
necessary
to
implement
and
enforce
the
provisions
of
this
section,
and
then
it
would
be
effective
upon
passage.
A
That's
also
part
of
the
language
here
so
on
the
ordinance
suggested
language
and
edits,
I'm
going
to
go
and
I'm
going
to
check
in
order
of
arrival
or
we
can
go
from
we'll
start
with
this
lead
sponsor
and
then
we'll
go
from
from
an
order
of
arrival.
So
counselor
mickey,
I
don't
know
if
you
had
any
other
suggestions
or
thoughts
about
the
language
and
the
edits
that
have
been
that
are
proposed
right
now
or
if
you
have
any
other
ones.
If
not,
then
I'll
just
go
through
through
the
college.
Through
my.
B
Sorry,
we
have
moved
forward,
I'm
such
a
mess
today.
I
I
think
that
we
have
moved
forward
with
the
proposed
edits
from
the
last
working
session,
so
we
feel
it's
good
to
go.
So
I
think
I'd
love
to
hear
from
my
colleagues.
That
would
be
great.
A
Perfect,
I
believe,
in
order
of
revival
we
have
counselor
braden.
F
I
I
had
a
question
about
the
the
applicants
who
are
renters
must
provide
written
permission
from
their
landlord
in
order
to
obtain
a
permit.
I
don't
really
see
a
retail
kitchen
as
equivalent
to
some
other
home-based
businesses.
I
think
it's.
It
may
be
a
good
idea
to
have
a
permission
from
a
landlord.
So
it's
just
a
question.
I
think,
were
you
proposing
to
remove
that
counselor
mejia.
F
B
B
We
that
would
be,
and
the
liability
would
be
understood
as
the
same
as
any
other
accessory
home
occupant
occupation.
A
It's
a
bit
difficult
to
hear
the
conversation,
but
go
on
counselor
braden.
F
Noise,
yes
yeah.
If
it's
been
discussed
and
it's
it's
in
in
line
with
other
accessory
use
provisions,
then
that's
fine
down
on
the
on
section
e
compliance
and
enforcement
penalties,
a
fine
of
up
to
300.
A
Commissioner,
or
just
before,
commissioner
or
chief
english,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
would
be.
That's
accurate
that
I
it
could
be
300
per
day
for
the
violation,
not
a
just
a
total.
D
We
have
have
no
issue
with
that
language
that
says
that
each
day
is
a
separate
offense.
F
A
The
suggested
amendment
from
council
braden
about
each
day
being
a
separate
offense.
B
So
it's
my
background
noise
that
is
causing
everyone's.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
hear
me,
but
yes,
we're.
Okay,
with
that,
I'm
gonna
try
to
remain
mute
so
that
I
don't
there's
a
lot
of
back
stuff
happening,
but
we're
okay
with
that.
Okay,
thank
you.
F
Keep
going
that's
all
I
have
for
now.
Thank.
A
G
Thanks
so
much
counselor
edwards,
I
I
think
so
one
thing
I
wanted
to
suggest
is
just
that
and
I
haven't
yet
figured
out
exactly
how
to
do
it,
but
I
just
think
we
might
want
to
tweak
the
language
in
the
ordinance
and
in
the
zoning
amendment
just
slightly,
because
I
think
I
think
that
as
councillor
mejia
said,
it
is
a
hundred
percent
intending
to
make
that
distinction
about.
Not
you
know
you
can't.
This
can't
be
a
store
that
people
can
walk
up
to
right.
G
It's
not
like
a
takeout
thing
that
people
can
come
get
stuff
from,
but
I'm
just
concerned
that
we
find
a
way
to
phrase
that
a
little
more
precisely
because,
for
instance,
when
we
say
here
that
you
know
which
states
the
merchandise
cannot
be
sold
from
the
home,
I
wouldn't
want
someone
to
be
interpreting
this
ordinance
10
years
from
now,
none
of
us
are
in
the
room
and
saying
oh
well,
you're
selling
it
from
your
home
over
the
internet
like
right,
like
I
just
think
we
probably
want
something
slightly
clearer.
That
makes
that
distinction
between
you.
G
G
Referring
to
ac
and
then
also
also
in
the,
if
you
go
to
the
zoning
amendment
itself,
it
also
says
it
says
no
trading
in
merchandise,
but
I
think
again
like
that
was
that
language
of
no
trading
in
merchandise
was
like
written
prior
to
the
internet.
I
think-
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure-
and
I
think
it's
probably
just
a
couple
of
words
like
that-
just
makes
it
that
makes
it
a
little
bit
clearer.
G
The
distinction
that
everybody,
both
counselor
mejia
and
isd
are
intending
to
make
here
where,
like
as
we've,
acknowledged,
if
you're,
basically
opening
a
store
in
a
residential
district,
then
zoning
questions
come
into
play.
But
the
whole
point
of
the
2a
amendment
is
not
to
send
these
folks
to
zoning
to
zba
when
they're,
just
when
they're
putting
stuff
together
and
then
selling
it
through
delivery
or
other
mechanisms
so
yeah.
A
G
B
A
H
I
am
mama
was
a
belt
and
suspenders
kind
of
person,
so
I
I
think,
probably
probably
both
is
fine,
but
I
think
I
agree
with
councillor
bach.
I
could
see
somebody
saying
that
you
know
direct
to
seller
is
the
same
as
you
know,
if
I
did
over
the
internet,
that's
direct
to
seller,
but
this
counselor
here
points
out
in
in-person
sales.
H
I
think,
is
something
that
you
know
anybody
could
understand,
and
you
know
that
that's
my
you
know
my
the
only
concern
I
have
with
any
of
all
this
is
that
as
we're
all
reasonable
people,
we
we
all
know
what
we
think
we
want
to
have
happen
out
of
this
there's
going
to
be
somebody
that
is
going
to
take
this
the
wrong
way
and
do
something
silly,
that's
going
gonna,
it's
gonna
cause
problems
and
to
the
best
of
our
ability.
H
G
And
I
think
it
would
be
if
I
can
counsel
edwards.
I
think
it
would
be
as
simple
as
if
we
did
the
in
person
in
the
zoning
amendment
and
then
in
the
place
in
the
ordinance.
It's
actually
referring
to
that
place
in
the
zoning
amendment.
So
we
could
say
you
know,
respect
zoning
code,
article
2a,
which
states
the
merchandise
cannot
be
sold.
G
You
know
in
person
from
the
home
or
from
the
home
like
in
person,
or
something
just
just
to
make
sure
that
we,
that
people
who
aren't
us,
don't
misunderstand
that
distinction
and
then
my
other
comment
would
just
be
that
I
mean
I'm.
G
G
So
I
guess
yeah,
that's
my
instinct
on
that.
I
did
agree
with
counselor
mejia's
office.
I
guess
the
only
the
only
question
I'd
have
is
for
isd.
G
I
mean
isd.
Does
lots
of
types
of
inspection
without
landlord
permission
now,
because
half
the
time
you're
being
called
to
come,
look
at
things
that
landlords
might
not
want
you
to
see
what's
sort
of
isd's
relationship
to
the
property
owners
just
like
in
general,
in
terms
of
like
notification
or
anything
like
if
I'm
just
thinking
about
like?
If
if
we
don't
need
landlord
permission,
the
renter
engages
in
this,
therefore
they
need
a
permit.
Isd
comes
to
do
an
inspection.
D
Your
correct,
counselor
isd
gets
called
to
do
inspections
by
a
lot
of
you
know
occupants
tenants
and
we
don't
need
the
owner's
permission
to
conduct
the
inspection.
But
notification
to
the
owner
is
a
critical
part
of
our
process,
because
whenever
we
find
things
that
don't
meet
our
requirements,
we're
required
to
notify
the
owner
and
work
with
the
owner
to
to
bring
the
unit
into
compliance.
D
So
that's
that's
the
way
that
we
interface
with
owners
with
this,
I
think,
is
something
that,
if
we're
not
requiring
owner
approval,
we
should
definitely
have
some
education
and
encourage
folks
to
work
with
landlords
to
make
sure
they're
not
violating
any
terms
in
their
leases.
B
A
G
Sponsored
by
you
yeah
just
do
you
currently,
commissioner,
if,
if
you
guys
go
and
inspect
a
premise
and
there's
an
issue,
do
you
I
mean
you,
send
you
send
a
follow-up
to
the
property
owner?
If
you
inspected
premise
and
there
isn't
an
issue,
do
you
send
a
notification
of
like
we
came
or
do
you
only
do
it
in
the
instance
where
there's
something
to
follow
up
on.
G
Okay,
got
it
yeah
yeah,
so
I
think
yeah
thinking
about
thinking
about
this
piece.
I
think
that's
a
wrinkle,
I
think,
but
there's
some.
G
I
still
think
there
could
be
an
option
where
the
other
thing
is
to
even
think
about
just
design
wise
right,
it's
always
lower
barrier
to
to
sort
of
like
give
people
a
an
opt-out
versus
an
opt-in.
So
another
thing
that
like
we
could
do
is
you're
not
the
tenant
doesn't
need
to
actively
get
their
landlord's
permission,
but
the
but
the
there's
some
point,
maybe
when
isd
gives
the
permit
or
something
where
a
landlord
gets
a
sort
of
notification,
something
that
kind
of
makes
them
aware.
I
G
Know
a
lot
of
times,
landlords
are
just
super,
even
irrespective
of
how
they'd
feel
about
the
activity.
They're
just
also
unresponsive.
I
mean
I've
had
folks
in
my
office
who
can't
get
their
landlords
to
like
certify
that
they
live
in
the
city
of
boston
for
months.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if,
if
we
do
feel,
we
should
let
the
landlord
in
on
the
process
that
we
do
it
in
a
way
that
kind
of
puts
the
onus
on
them
to
respond
instead
of
making
the
tenant
wait
for
them.
H
So
counselor
to
that
and
I've
I've
been
thinking
about
that.
H
A
little
bit
myself
and
one
of
the
things
that
crossed
my
mind
is
there
may
be
some
provisions,
sort
of
boilerplate
provisions
and
standard
leases
that
have
that
touch
on
the
point
of
you
know
in
in-home
businesses,
but
even
if
they're,
even
if
there
aren't-
and
I
just
don't
have
one
handy
that
I
can
refer
to
to
see-
if
that's,
if
that's
really
the
case,
but
I
suspect
that
if
this
ends
up
being
a
a
problem,
you
know
the
rental
housing
industry
will
respond
very
quickly
by
including
that,
as
as
a
you
know,
as
another
proviso
within
the
you
know,
the
standard
lease
these
forms.
H
G
Yeah
yeah
and
I
agree
they
could
just
yeah
there's
already
frankly,
I
think
our
there's
a
lot
of
leeway
to
our
landlords.
We
don't
really
have
a
standard
lease
in
the
city
of
boston
and
they
and
they
take
plenty
of
private
contractual
action
as
it
is
in
their
own
interests,
and
I
think,
probably
as
you're
right
brian,
that
they
would
find
a
way
to
do
the
same
here
if
it
was
an
issue
council
edwards.
I
think
those
were
my
main
comments.
A
Great,
I
see
that
there's
been
several
hands
put
up
by
the
administration
and
advocates
counselor
flynn.
Do
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
then
we're
going
to
go
to
to
them.
J
Sure,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
councillor
edwards,
thank
you
to
councillor
here
as
well
and
into
the
city
staff
that
is
here,
city
boys
that
are
here,
commissioner
irish,
commissioner
dempsey
and
the
fire
marshal
as
well.
So
I
had
a
couple
concerns
and
in
you
know
I
I
am
troubled
about.
J
J
Residents
would
ask
us
about
a
certain
business
if
this
appeared
in
the
in
the
neighborhood
and
there
wasn't
any
neighborhood
process
or
approval.
I
think
it.
I
think
it
needs
to
go
to
the
zba.
I
think
that's,
I
think,
that's
a
critical
part
of
it.
As
a
district
city
councilor
the
buck,
the
buck
stops
with
us.
We
can't
pass
the
buck.
We
we're
responsible
for
what
happens
in
our
in
our
district.
J
J
Then
the
second.
The
second
issue
I
had
is
I
I
before
I
before.
I
weigh
in
on
whether
I
support
or
or
against
this
I
would
like
to
ask
in
in-
and
I
have
the
greatest
respect
for
commissioner
irish
and
for
the
isd
team.
They
they
do
tremendous
work,
outstanding
work,
but
we're
adding
more
workload,
we're
adding
more
duties
there
to
these
inspectors,
who
are
already
working
working
hard.
J
Are
we
going
to
have
more
inspectors
hired
for
isd
to
do
these
assignments
and
if
so,
let's
make
sure
it
goes
in
the
budget
and
if
in
maybe
waiting
for
a
formal
vote
until
we
see
that
these
inspectors
are
added
into
the
budget,
because
we
can't,
we
can't
add
more
duties
to
over
overworked
personnel
as
it
is
without
without
adding
more
inspectors.
I'm
I'm
troubled
by
that
and
you
know
we
just
can't
keep
piling
work
and
work
on
city
employees
without
without
increasing
the
budget.
So
I
I
want
to
ask.
J
I
know
I
ask
chris
english
and
dion
irish,
but
are
you
able
to
advocate
effectively
during
this
budget
process
for
more
inspectors?
I
I
I
need
an
answer
on
that,
because
I
need
10
15
more
inspectors
added
into
the
budget
in
in
mr
prentegras,
who
does
an
outstanding
job
as
well,
but
we
need
those
employees
added
to
the
city
payroll.
J
D
Thank
you,
council
flynn.
I
really
appreciate
your
support
for
the
work
that
the
employees
of
isd
do
and
yes,
the
short
answer
is
yes,
we
will
you
know
if
this
this
ordinance
is
successful,
we
will
take
a
look
at
our
needs
and
to
make
sure
that
we
are
advocating
and
with
your
help,
to
ensure
that
we
have
the
the
resources
that
we
need
to
fulfill
the
mission
of
the
department.
J
J
We
need
to
make
sure
we
have
the
resources
there
and
again
the
buck
stops
with
the
district
city
councils.
We
don't
pass
the
buck
to
our
at
large
colleagues,
we're
responsible
for
it
and
we're
also
responsible
for
what
happens
at
the
zba
in
the
community
process.
So
those
are
those
are
my
comments.
Thank
you,
councillor
edwards,
thank
you,
council
mejia,
and
it's
good
to
see
the
the
fire
commissioner
and
the
isd
commissioner
here
as
well.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councillor
flynn.
So,
if
I
understand
it,
you
want
the
zba
to
be
part
of
this
process
that
there's
a
real
concern
about
enforcement
of
this,
and
that
is
directly
connected
to
the
budget
this
year
and
that
so
you're
asking
that
we
do
delay
a
vote
for
certifying
this
until
after
the
budget,
we
see
that
there's
actually
resources
provided
to
isd
to
enforce.
J
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
an
administration
who
has
their
hands
up
as
well
as
advocates
and
then
we're
going
to
go
through
the
that
I
have
questions
and
then
we'll
go
back
again,
starting
with
the
lead
sponsor
through
the
city
councillors.
So
we
have.
A
And
see
you
and
see
your
hand
raised
okay,.
A
Counselor,
I'm
sorry,
commissioner,
fire
marshal.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
One
worry
am
I
in
the
eyes
of
public
safety,
even
though
these
right
now
we're
talking
about
being.
You
know
not
in
person
retail.
My
concern
is:
how
is
the
product
going
to
be
delivered
from
point
a
to
point
b
from
the
retail
kitchen?
To
like
you
know
the
local
corner
store?
That's
gonna,
you
know
retail
the
product,
so
if
there
is
a
delivery
that
I
anticipate,
there's
going
to
be
some
type
of
delivery
mechanism
involved
with
this
kitchen
one
way
or
another.
I
So
my
my
concern
is
that
you
know
the
van
coming
to
pick
up
the
product
to
bring
the
you
know,
stop
and
shop
or
you
know,
abc
corner
store.
There's
there's
got
to
be
some
some
type
of
enforcement
that
prohibits
ever
double
parking
in
front
of
the
area
of
the
retail
kitchen,
because
it
might
an
emergency
incident
may
not
involve
the
actual
kitchen,
but
a
neighbor
three
doors
down
that
it
could
delay
critical
care
to.
You
know
the
other
constituents
in
our
city,
so
that
was
just
one
one
issue.
I
I
think
that
I
would
like
to
see
addressed
before
the
program
moves
forward,
but-
and
I
guess
that's
it-
that's
my
biggest
concern
right
now
and
I
thank
you
for
hearing
me
out.
A
Well,
thank
you
chief
english.
K
Thanks
counselor,
it
sort
of
builds
off
of
what
chief
telly
mentioned,
but
going
back
to
the
conversation
about
the
terminology
direct
to
consumer.
D
K
K
So
it's
a
prohibition
against
one
selling
to
grocery
stores
for
them
to
then
sell
sell
to
a
consumer.
Cottage.
Food
operations
have
to
sell
directly
to
a
consumer
whether
that's
through
a
farmers
market,
or
you
know,
sales
online
delivery
that
type
of
thing,
but
that
that
terminology
direct
to
consumers
comes
right
out
of
the
sanitary
code.
A
So
what
what
is
your
suggested
language
was?
Was
the
language
that
counselor,
mejia,
bach
and
brian,
that
they
came
up
brian
glasgow
came
up
was
was
in
terms
of
in
person
prohibiting
in-person
sales
from
the
home?
Was
that
you're
saying
two
things?
And
let
me
ask
this
again:
we
need
to
have
the
words
direct
consumer
in
here.
Is
that
what
you're
saying
at
some
point-
and
I'm
asking
you-
was
the
in-person
prohibition-
sufficient?
I
I
I
still
have
my
question:
is
how
does
even
it?
Even
if
it
goes
from
the
kitchen
that
it's
cooked
at
to
to
my
house,
you
know?
That's
first.
Is
that
what
you're
saying
commissioner
english
there
still
could
be
a
problem
with
you
know
how
parking
is
at
a
premium
in
our
communities
around
the
city,
where
there's
still,
I
would
love
to
see
some
type
of
you
know,
enforcement
mechanism.
Out
of
that,
you
can
never
double
park
to
load
your
product.
I
Even
if
it's
your
own
van
that
you
purchase
to
live
to
deliver
your
own
product,
there
has
to
be
an
agreement
that
you
either
have
to
wait.
For
you
know,
if
you
don't
have
a
driveway,
you
have
to
wait
for
a
spot
to
open,
but
but
double
talking
will
not
be
allowed,
because
I
I
can
see
eventually
there
will
be.
There
will
be
something
terrible
that
does
happen.
Thank
you.
A
If
I
may
just
quickly
interject
on
the
parking
double
parking
before
you
respond,
chief
english
and
I'm
hoping
your
response
comes
with
some
language
points
in
the
in
the
in
the
in
the
amendment
and
ordinance
when
it
comes
to
double
parking,
I
think
the
issue
that
we're
going
to
have
is
we
do
not
also
want
to
especially
regulate
residential
kitchens
differently
than
say
we
re.
We
especially
regulate
anybody
getting
a
pea,
pod
delivery
right.
They
get
groceries,
delivered
to
their
homes
right
now
or
amazon
or
ups
or
anything
else.
A
So
we
don't
want
to
especially
burden
them
because
they're
they're
doing
something.
No,
I
mean
different,
but
also
just
from
their
home
too,
and
I
believe
majority
of
them
will
be
selling
at
local
farmers,
markets
right
and
just
getting
their
product
in
their
car
and
just
going
over
there
and
selling
at
a
giving
it
to
the
the
farmers
market
to
sell
the.
We
did
discuss
the
concern
and
I
think
a
lot
of
this
is
going
to
be
about
enforcement.
A
So
people
will
let
us
know
that
there's
a
problem
if
they
see
us
lying
out
the
door
for
my
house.
All
of
a
sudden
there
will
be
a
call
to
isd
and
there
will
be
an
understood
you
are
violating
this
direct
to
consumer
law.
So
a
lot.
A
lot
of
this
is
going
to
have
to
be
we'll
see,
we'll
see
what
happens
and
we'll
see
how
people
respond
to
that.
But
again
we
allow
for
double.
I
you
know
I'm
not
admitting
to
not
admitting.
Nor
am
I
denying
that.
A
Maybe,
when
I'm
loading
my
groceries
into
my
house,
I
might
be
not
perfectly
parked
in
front
of
my
house
to
do
that.
Temporary,
quick
self-delivery
and
I
I
think
we're
also
need
to
be
realistic
about
also
what
a
residential
kitchen
is
going
to
actually
produce.
This
is
we're
not
talking
tens
of
thousands
of
a
product
coming
through
we're
talking
about.
You
know
again
what
cottage
goods
are
maybe
jams
at
most,
maybe
some
pasta.
A
Candy
pop,
I
mean
we're
talking
capacity,
that's
probably
what
one
person
can
handle,
but
again
if
it
gets
beyond
what
a
person
can
handle
and
we're
going
to
hear
about
it.
As
council
flynn
noted
we're
going
to
hear
about
it
very
very
quickly,
so
I
I'm
going
to
go
to
chris
then.
I
I
I
agree,
we
just
said
counselor
right
because
I
don't
want
to
single
out
the
kitchens,
but
I
wish
in
the
permit
process.
Maybe
you
know
there
could
be
a
blurb
about
trying
to
keep
back
access
free-
and
you
know
just
food
for
thought.
A
Oh
no
pun
intended,
I
gotcha
absolutely,
I
think,
just
to
quickly
jump.
I
think
what
a
lot
of
what
you're
speaking
to
and
what
a
lot
of
what
the
commissioner
is
speaking
to
earlier
is
you
know,
points
that
could
be
made
in
the
training
they
have
to
take
a
safety
course.
A
I
think
there's
parts
of
that
course
that
you
could
be
bringing
these
things
up,
and
you
need
to
keep
these
these
these
these
public
ways
free
for
emergencies.
You
need
to
do
certain
things
and
I
think
we
can
actually,
as
a
group,
come
up
with
all
of
these
concerns
and
make
sure
we
hit
that
in
the
training
and
the
safety
course
that
they're
supposed
to
take
so
it's
we
can
add
to
the
it
doesn't
have
to
just
be
the
food
prep
course
part
of
it.
A
It
could
also
be
some
orientation
about
you
know
this
is
so
you
want
to
move
in
a
residential
space,
but
you
also
are
cooking
food
to
a
certain
extent.
Let's
emphasize
what
that
means.
So
we
can
also
train
people
as
part
of
that
permitting
process,
chief,
english
and
then
andre.
I
know
you've
had
your
hand
up
and
been
waiting
very
patiently,
andre,
so
chief
english.
K
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
didn't
lose
that
reference
to
that
to
sale
to
a
consumer,
so
we
didn't
conflict
with
the
state
sanitary
code,
not
that
you
know
I
wanted
to
make
any
major
changes
or
anything
I
just
thought.
A
A
Language:
yes,
okay,
good,
okay,
then!
So
that's
that's!
Okay!
Any
other
points
chief,
commissioner,
any
other
points
before
we
move
to
andre,
and
then
I
see,
commissioner,
he
has
raised
his
hand
as
well.
D
Council,
the
only
other
point
I
have
to
make
is
that
I
do
have.
I
will
have
to
leave
at
11.
However,
the
rest
of
the
team
from
isd
will
be
here.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
commissioner
andre,
and
then
commissioner
and
then
I'm
gonna
go
through
the
counselors
again.
Okay,
andre.
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
everybody
for
the
discussion
and
detail
really
appreciate
hearing
all
this.
I
just
have
a
couple
comments
and
then
questions
in
terms
of
the
add-on.
I
really
appreciate
that
this
is
added
on
as
an
accessory
use
with
docket0415,
and
I
think
that
is
takes
care
of
a
lot
of
the
issues
with
zoning
with
respect
to
changing
the
use
of
one's
unit
as
opposed
to
using
accessory
use
in
your
home.
L
L
If
that's
going
to
make
be
made
clear
so
that
I
don't
fall
into
a
trap
of
applying
for
something
that
I
don't
think
I'm
applying
for
so,
for
instance,
I
want
to
apply
for
an
accessory
use
occupation,
and
you
know
I
don't
want
to
go
through
the
process
of
you
know
going
through
the
zba
going
through
my
landlord
going
through.
All
these
hoops
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
make
that
distinction
with
the
permitting
requirement
and
then
just
to
add
on
to
the
double
parking
issue.
L
I
do
think
that's
a
necessary
point
to
bring
it
up.
I
just
want
to
build
off
of
what
counselor
edward
said
in
terms
of
the
nature
of
take
out
and
and
and
people
dropping
things
off
to
and
from.
I
think
that
happens
pretty
regularly,
and
I
don't
think
that
will
be
that
big
of
an
issue
if,
if
we
do
go
forward
with
that
process
and
again,
if
that
does
become
an
issue
that
calls
into
question
the
accessory
use
of
this
itself.
So
if
it's
not,
if
there's
complaints,
then
it
calls
into
questions.
L
Is
this
accessory
or
is?
Are
you
doing
this
as
a
full-time
job
and
that's
something
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up.
A
Right
so
we're
going
to
go
back
through
counselors,
oh
we've
also
been
joined
by
councillor
arroyo.
Thank
you.
Councillor
arroyo
we're
going
to
go
I'll.
I
will
add
you
to
the
list
of
counselors
when
questions
as
we
go
through,
if
that's
just
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
break
the
conversation.
I
apologize
commissioner
dempsey.
Yes,
I
promised
you
go
ahead.
E
Okay,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
yeah.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
If
people
are
bringing
the
product
to
a
farmer's
market,
they
fine,
if
they
pack
up
their
own
car
but
to
chief
tully's
point
so
who's
going
to
be
enforcing
the
parking
issue.
Is
that
going
to
be
isd?
E
Or
you
know,
if
there's
a
violation
along
those
lines
and
unlike
unlike
p-pod,
that
you
know
people
is
going
to
come
by
your
house
once
a
day,
maybe
or
once
a
week
not
not
make
five
trips
or
ten
trips
that
day
and
I'm
and
I'm
only
bringing
it
up
because,
I
think,
is
if
you're
in
besides
the
emergency
response
and
that
being
a
possible
problem,
are
you
going
to
get
kicked
back
from
neighbors
when
they
start
having
a
problem
with
parking,
so
those
are
yeah
those?
E
So
so
I
think
the
parking
issue
and
and
making
sure
that
there's
an
enforcement
on
not
doing
in-person
seals
is
important.
So
that's
all
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
I
think
when
it
comes
to
parking,
it'll
still
be
the
btd
and
the
normal
enforcement
that
we
have
for
those
who
violate,
and
a
lot
of
that
will,
I
think,
that's
actually
another
set
of
eyes
on
whether
the
residential
kitchen
is,
as
andre
said,
really
an
accessory
kind
of
side,
source
of
income
or
really
is
becoming
a
full-on
commercial,
large
entity
larger
than
it's
supposed
to
be
so,
and
the
fact
that
if
they
are
silly
enough
to
grow
that
big,
that
they
impact
the
parking
patterns
in
the
neighborhood,
then
they
have
certainly
outgrown
their
space.
A
And
I
think
it's
actually
going
to
help
us
we'll
hear
about
it.
As
council
flynn
noted
very
quickly
and
we'll
be
the
first
ones
to
call.
So
I
wanted
to
go
through
some
some
of
my
own
questions
that
might
help
balance
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
have.
First,
I
wanted.
A
I
wanted
to
know
if
we
would
be
open
to
a
registry
in
any
way
shape
or
form
so
that
as
people
get
the
permits,
it's
very
clear
that
there's
a
registry
like
we
do
with
adu
unit
adu,
I'm
so
sorry,
airbnb
units.
Why
is
the
registry
good?
Because
if
I
do
have
that
concern
I
want
to
know
oh
yeah.
I
know
that
that's
a
registered
that
means
by
registry.
To
me,
they've
gotten.
A
You
can
say
that
they've
gone
through
the
training
right
they've
gone
through
the
permit,
permitting
process
that
they
have
a
person
of
contact
and
they
they
have
some
standards
that
they're
willing
to
uphold
to,
and
then
I
can
okay,
I
can
calm
down
like
okay,
so
this
isn't
just
you
know,
lydia
decided
to
go,
make
a
bunch
of
stuff
on
her
own
in
her
house.
I
actually
know
she
went
through
training
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
I'm
wondering
if
we'll
be
open
to
a
registry.
A
The
other
thing
I'm
wondering
is,
while
I
I'm
a
landlord
right
and
so
part
of
me,
I
don't
want
anything
to
happen
in
my
building
that
I
don't
know
about
now.
I
understand
completely
that
we
also
don't
want
people
to
be
able
to
control
all
aspects
of
of
people's
tenants
lives
right
to
the
point
that
they
can
be
oppressive.
So
I
do
like
some
form
of
notice,
and
maybe
that's
where
the
registry
would
come
in
the
registry
automatically
just
notifies
the
landlord
or
could
notify,
I
think,
with
airbnb.
A
We
have
isd
or
ohs
office.
No,
I'm
sorry,
ons
office
of
neighborhood
services,
I
believe,
gives
a
notice
just
could
give
a
notice
to
the
neighborhoods
that
might
help
avoid
going
to
the
zba,
but
letting
people
within
a
certain
radius
know.
Residential
kitchen
is
opening,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
can
just
do
some
upstream
kind
of
notification,
training
and
registry
so
that
there's
a
certain
amount
of
regulatory
impact
and
and
people
understand,
there's
eyes
on
this
right
now.
A
So
I
I
think
that
would
be
within
your
purview
of
isd
to
come
up
with
a
registry
and
a
notice
provisions
for
office
of
housing
office
of
neighborhood
services,
to
kind
of
just
not
even
blanket
just
a
quick
little
thing
that
you
can
send
out
to
the
neighborhood
association
and
so
on
and
so
forth
and
and
also
to
bfd.
Maybe
bfd
may
also
want
to
have
access
to
the
registry,
as
residential
kitchens
are
being
registered.
E
A
A
It's
legal
right,
it's
already
legalized
by
the
state,
but
if,
with
a
registry,
there's
certain
things
that
we
can
make
public,
I
I
want
to
balance
counselor
flynn's,
no
concern
about
the
neighborhood
being
able
to
know
what's
going
on,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
go
through
zba
for
the
neighborhood
to
need
to
know
what's
going
on,
and
I
would
prefer
that
we
just
have
this
like
upstream
notification
that
just
happens
and
with
the
registry
that
can
all.
I
think
that
I
think
it's
a
real.
K
So
I'll
just
add
that
we
already
publish
on
the
city's
open
data
hub
all
active
food
licenses.
These
would
be
a
type
of
food
license
so
that
information
will
be
published
directly
to
the
web.
When
they're
issued.
K
A
That's
wonderful,
so
would
you
would
you
be
opening
open
to
working
with
office
of
neighborhood
services
for
kind
of
notifying?
A
Certainly,
I
think
that
that
would
help
and
counselor
mejia
were
you,
okay
with
the
the
registry
or
since
they
are
they're
already
public,
but
at
least
notifying
neighbors
and
the
and
the
landlord
and
whatnot
that
this
is
opening
so
that
we
get
ahead
of
any
get
ahead
of
the
zba,
but
also
you're.
Okay,
I
see
you
logged
in
twice
counsel
me:
what
are
your
thoughts
on
those
two.
A
A
Well,
well,
while
council
mckee,
I
know
it's
technical,
it's
been
a
technical
concern,
but
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
maybe
this
is
just
the
labor
lawyer
in
me
with
the
training.
I
I
don't
know
what
these
national
training
trainings
are.
They
seem
to
be
very
food,
specific
and
food
safety,
specific,
which
is
fine,
but
had
I'm
honestly
concerned
about.
A
Child
labor
laws,
I'm
concerned
about
other
things
as
well
that
happen
within
residential
kitchens
or
or
businesses,
and
this
is
coming
from
my
organized
people,
organizing
working
with
people
who
are
often
unseen
by
workers
who
are
in
the
homes
of
people,
and
you
wouldn't
believe
the
things
that
people
do
to
people
when
they're
when
it's
in
their
home,
even
if
they're
doing
a
business
or
they're
employing
somebody.
So
I'm
just
imploring
that
part
of
the
training
that
the
city
require
include
labor
laws.
A
A
I
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
part
of
that
training
is
also
fire
and
safety,
and
part
of
that
is
also,
I
mean
we
can
look
at
parking,
or
at
least
you
know,
traffic
whatever,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
training
that
we
are
requiring
is
a
little
bit
more
robust
beyond
food,
prep
and
safety.
K
A
Yeah,
okay,
but
I
mean
it
doesn't
mean
you
don't
over,
like
you
don't
over,
exploit
your
16
year
old.
It
doesn't
mean
that
you
absolutely
right.
So
that's
what
I
mean,
though,
in
terms
of
training.
Why
could
we
make
sure
that
that's
part
of
the
training
sure?
That's
all
that's
that's.
My
only
question
is
just
making
sure
that
the
training
is
not
limited
just
to
food
prep,
and
I
know
in
the
language
right
now
it
seems
to
be
specific
about
it's
actually
just
a
national
food
program.
Could
we
add
in
other
training
requirements?
That's
all.
A
A
K
K
A
All
right,
maybe
we
could
check
in
with
manisha.
I
know
that
she
was
really
working
on
the
technical
assistance
with
natalia
she's,
not
here
right
now,
but
maybe
we
can
work
with
her.
But
I
I
don't
I'm
not
trying
to
burden
this,
I'm
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
there's
certain
aspects
of
the
training
that
will
be
required
in
the
zoning,
so
we
can
write
it
at
a
30,
000
foot
level
that
doesn't
hurt,
but
just
make
sure
that
these
these
topics
are
covered
in
the
training.
That's
all
does
it
make
sense.
A
So,
okay,
so
those
are
the
three
areas
councilman
here,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you
three
areas
and
buckets
that
I
just
discussed
a
registry,
some
sort
of
ad,
an
advance
notice,
maybe
through
office
of
neighborhood
services
and
then
just
adding
some
training
topics
as
well.
B
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
address
a
number
of
things
with
the
time
that
I
have
and
I'll
get
to
yours
as
well.
So
let
me
just
start
off
by
with
with
counselor
box.
I
really
do
appreciate
her
her
comments
in
regards
to.
Where
am
I
sorry,
let
me
start
off
with
friend,
first
so
flynn.
I
really
do
appreciate.
I
love
how
hard
you
go
for
you
know
all
of
our
residents.
I
just
wanted
to
just
really
be
clear
that
you
know
as
an
at-large
city
counselor.
B
I
believe
we
I'm
trying
to
do
what's
best
for
everybody
as
well,
so
I
really
want
to
lean
in
and
figure
out
how
we
can
support
those
efforts
as
as
collaboratively
as
possible.
Again,
I
just
want
to
just
be
really
clear
that
you
don't
need
neighborhood
approval
for
any
other
kind
of
home
business,
not
for
a
piano
tutor,
not
for
any
other.
Other
types
of
businesses
are
showing
or
a
sewing
shop,
so
I'm
just
curious
about
kind
of
like.
Why
would
we
need
to
continue
to
push
for
that?
B
Most
residents?
Don't
even
know
that
those
things
are
even
happening
in
in
those
homes
and
I'm
just
a
little
bit
concerned
about
waiting
for
the
budget
to
decide
whether
or
not
this
should
pass.
We've
passed
the
police,
you
know
the
office
of
police,
accountability
and
others
without
budget
approval
or
the
process.
I'm
just
curious
about
what
president
we
would
be
setting
if,
if
waiting,
to
approve
an
ordinance
because
of
a
budget-
and
I
do
understand
and
appreciate
the
whole
notion
around
making
sure
that
isd
has
all
the
support
services.
B
But
I
think
there
were
a
few
earlier
sessions
where
you
brought
that
up,
and
I
think
that
commissioner
irish,
it
kind
of
really
gave
you
the
lay
of
the
land
in
terms
of
what
the
workload
would
look
like,
and
so
I
just
kind
of
want
to
get
some
clarity
around
why
that
still
is
bubbling
up
to
the
top,
and
I
I
do
appreciate
all
of
box
points.
As
always,
she
brings
really
viable
solutions
to
get
us
to
where
we
need
to
go.
B
So
I
really
do
appreciate
counselor
box
ability
to
walk
in
with
some
really
good
language
for
us
to
be
able
to
move
things
forward.
So
thank
you
for
that
counselor
bach,
and
to
your
points,
counselor
edwards.
I
really
do
appreciate
the
whole
idea
of
having
a
registry
and
a
notification.
I
think
that
that's
a
really
good
best
practice
and
something
that
we
should
definitely
be
putting
out
there
and
I
think,
without
any
real,
clear
understanding
of
what
labor
training
exists.
B
We're
setting
people
up
to
fail
because
we're
asking
them
to
do
something
that
may
not
even
exist
and
if
it
does
exist,
we'd
love
to
be
able
to
you
know
include
it.
But
I'm
just
curious
about
that.
I
mean
I
have
an
11
year
old
daughter
and
I
put
her
a
little
behind
to
work
every
single
day,
whether
it
be
washing
dishes
doing
the
laundry
like
listen.
This
is
a
family
affair
and
everybody
has
to
lean
into
it.
B
So
I
think
that
you
know
if
I'm
violating
any
labor
laws
by
putting
my
daughter
to
work.
I
need
to
know
what
that
looks
like,
because
if
I'm
a
single
mom
and
I'm
trying
to
make
my
ends
meet
and
she
this
is
an
amazing
opportunity
for
her
to
develop
some
skills.
I
think
it's
all
in
how
we
choose
to
to
talk
about
that.
I
think
that
there
are
ways
for
us
to
explore
that
I
mean.
I
also
think
that
we
need
to
think
about
who
our
audience
is
here.
B
You
know
like
initially
this.
This
whole
residential
kitchen
has
always
been
about
supporting
our
constituents
and
particularly
our
immigrants,
many
who
are
just
trying
to
supplement
their
income-
and
this
is
not-
I
don't
see
this
as
a
commercial
kitchen.
This
is
a
residential
kitchen.
This
is
something
where
people
are
going
to
be
able
to
supplement
their
income,
so
the
double
parking
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff.
I
just
don't.
B
I
don't
see
that,
and
I
think
to
your
point
absolutely
if
it
gets
to
the
point
where
people
are
double
parking
and
all
those
other
issues
that
you're
raising,
of
course,
they're
going
to
call
the
district
councilors
they're
going
to
call
us
as
well,
and
I
think
that
it's
important
for
us
to
get
ahead
of
those
concerns.
But
I
think
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
that
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we're
discussing
here.
This
is
already
a
state
law
and
there
are
a
lot
of
other
municipalities
across
the
city.
B
A
I
don't
think
counselors
had
any
more
questions,
but
just
to
be
clear,
I
don't
think
setting
people
up
like
training
people
and
what
the
laws
are
to
avoid
exploitation
is
setting
anyone
up
to
fail.
If
the
laws
are
very
clear
about
what
you
can
and
can't
do,
who
you
can
and
cannot
employ,
you
should
know
them.
B
A
A
If
you
you
cannot
have
employees,
so
don't
don't
don't
hire
someone
down
the
street
kid
to
help
you
out
in
your
kitchen
right,
that's
an
employee!
If
you
do
have
your
daughter
or
son
or
so
on
and
so
forth,
you
have
to
make
sure
you
comply
with
all
of
the
laws
that
come
with.
You
know
school
and
whatever,
but
you
could
break
that
down
very
quickly.
A
I
I'm
happy
to
give
examples
of
that,
because
I
did
it
the
training
myself
for
years
for
employers,
immigrants
for
low-wage
workers,
so
I'm
happy
to
figure
that
out
and
I'm
also
think
we
have
a
robust.
You
know
labor
workforce
development
office.
That
also
could
do
some
quick,
walk-in
and
half-hour
play
the
tape
or
something
like
that.
B
Okay,
that's
different,
because
when
I
think
of
a
training
I
I
it
seems
like
a
curriculum
and
facilitators
and
all
of
that,
but
I
love
the
idea
of
having
a
one
sheet.
I
think
that
I'm
trying
to
streamline
this
as
much
as
possible.
So
perhaps
if
there
is
a
one
sheet
that
we
can
include
when
they
go
apply
for
their
permit
and
then
they
can
sign
and
say
that
they
have
read
and
understood,
then
that's
easy,
that's
an
easy
fix.
When
I
think
of
training
I
think
of
an
another.
B
A
I
want
to
be
clear
right
violating
it
right
if
you're
found
to
violate
the
labor
laws
in
this
state.
We
don't
play
right.
It's
triple
damages.
It's
it's
extremely
intense.
I
know
because
I've
sued
a
lot
of
people
happily
for
violating
those
laws
and
the
saddest
part
is
when
you're
suing
someone
who
really
genuinely
didn't
know.
B
I
love
that
idea.
I
love
that
idea
of
creating
a
one
sheet.
I
mean,
if
that's
something
that
could
be
done
easily
and
it
seems
like
you
have
a
lot
of
experience.
So,
let's
just
add
that
to
the
list
of
things
that
they
will
get
when
they
get
their
their
as
part
of
their
licensing
process
and
their
permitting.
I
love
it
okay,
a
one
sheet
and
that
they
should
sign
for
it.
A
All
right
we'll
have
it
mentioned,
and
why
don't
we
just
mention
that
as
some
sort
of
training
or
materials
received,
but
we
don't
the
signature
and
all
that
other
stuff
can
be
coordinated
a
little
bit
we'll
let
isd
figure
out
if
that's
necessary
or
whatnot,
and
a
one
sheet
on
fire
safety.
I
think,
if
there's
a
package,
maybe
of
orientation
materials
that
we
can
have
provided
work,
does
that
make
sense.
Okay,
counselor
braden.
F
I
I
want
to
thank
chris
english
for
clarifying
the
direct
to
consumer
definition,
which
raises
an
issue
with
section
b
part.
A
retail
residential
permit
shall
be
required
for
any
resident
who
wishes
to
prepare
cottage
foods
or
other
foods
deemed
to
be
admissible
by
inspectional
services.
Department
such
as
juices,
teas
for
retail
and
or
wholesale.
F
F
I
still
would
like
to
know
what's
going
on
in
my
rental
apartment,
we
have
a
situation
where
we
provide.
We
do
rental
with
utilities,
if
you're
a
rental
with
utilities.
You
don't
want
your
your
tenant.
You
know
baking
hundreds
of
cookies.
Every
week
in
your
kitchen
downstairs,
I
I
really
feel
it's
necessary
for
a
landlord
to
know.
What's
going
on
in
their
apartment,
especially
if
you're
an
owner
occupier,
I
think,
there's
a
level
a
higher
level
of.
F
There's
a
higher
level
of
a
notification
needed
if
you
actually
live
in
the
building
with
your
tenants.
I
I'm
that's
just
my
own
experience
of
being
a
landowner
and
living
with
tenants.
A
F
I
think
I
think
I
think
no,
this
wouldn't
be
the
the
lowest
requirement.
Yeah
permission.
F
Permission,
I
don't
know,
then
then
it
becomes
a
lease
specific.
You
know
the
the
landlord
should
be
at
liberty,
then,
without
prejudice
to
modify
the
least
to
say
that
this
is
something
they
don't
want
in
their
in
their
apartment.
F
But
that's
just
my
my
thinking
on
it
and
I'm
very
supportive
of
this.
You
know
I'm
somebody
who
makes
homemade
jams
in
my
house,
so
they
can't
sell
them,
but
they
do
distribute
them.
A
F
It's
a
part
of
jam
and
not
in
my
office
at
city
hall,
waiting
for
you,
okay,
so
yeah,
I
I
just
you
know.
I
really
support
this
initiative.
I
think
it's
wonderful,
but
you
know
the
devil's
in
the
details,
which
is
why
we're
going
through
this
line
by
line
yeah.
F
So
I
think
at
least
notification
of
the
landlord
would
be
the
the
lowest
requirement.
I
think.
F
G
Thank
you
and,
and
I'm
gonna
try
to
break
the
streak
and
not
be
a
counselor
who
confesses
to
send
me
illicit
activity
on
this
working
session.
G
So
I
think
we're
three
for
three
here,
but
but
I
yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
offer
a
couple
of
comments
on
what's
been
said
strongly.
G
I
do
think
that
zoning
is
designed
fundamentally
around
the
kind
of
the
like
shared
public
spaces
that
we
share,
and
I
think
this
is
activity
inside
of
the
home
and
that,
although
we
all
might
be
nosy
about
what
our
neighbors
are
up
to,
the
fact
that
we
like
want
to
have
control
over
that
and
the
fact
that
we
actually
have
a
public
interest
in
having
share
control
on
that
are
two
different
things,
and
I
think
that
the
and
I
think,
we've
already-
we've
already
made
the
distinction
where,
if
this
is
going
to
become
a
functional
shop,
it
is
going
to
still
go
to
cva.
G
So
we
protected
the
neighborhood
on
that
front
and-
and
I
think
that
you
know
part
of
the
point
of
the
permitting
system
will
be
that
there's
a
book.
So
if
people
see
if
people
see,
oh,
my
neighbor's
got
a
residential
kitchen
permit,
but
I
can
see
that
she's
selling
it
out
of
her
house
and
there's
a
line
out
the
door
like
they're
gonna
have
a
mechanism
to
complain
about
that
to
isd.
So
it's
like
they've
already
got
that
hook,
and
I
just
really
want
to
stress.
G
I
mean
counselor
counselor
flynn
mentioned
sort
of
the
question
of
staffing
and
burdens,
like
I
think,
as
we
discussed
in
one
of
the
first
hearings
on
this,
our
zba
process
is
already
considerably
overburdened,
and-
and
so
I
don't
think,
adding
something
adding
this
through
that
regulatory
apparatus
when
we're
already
trying
to
put
too
many
cases
through
and
we've
had
to
create
a
subcommittee
and
all
that
I
think
that
would
be
taking
us
in
the
wrong
direction.
G
So
I
do
think
there's
a
way
that
we're
we're
giving
ourselves
enough
hooks
councillor
flynn
that
as
a
district
counselor,
if
we've
got
a
bad
actor,
who's
got
a
residential
kitchen
permit
in
our
district,
we're
going
to
be
able
to
follow
up
we're
going
to
be
able
to
go
to
a
city
department
in
isd,
but
but
we're
not
kind
of
further
slowing
down
our
zba
process
unnecessarily.
So
that'd
be
my
comments
on
that
and
then
just
yeah
like.
I
already
said
that
I
think
I
think
notification
to
landlords
makes
sense.
G
I
don't
really
think
we
need
the
permission.
Slip
thing
I
think,
as
you've.
Both
alluded
to
the
lease
is
certainly
a
mechanism
by
which
landlords
can
do
what
they
what
they
feel
they
need
to
do
on
that
front,
and
she
there
was
another
thing,
oh
on
the
on,
I
think
yeah
on
the
information.
G
I
think
absolutely
we
should
be
giving
the
the
folks
who
get
these
permits
a
kind
of
standard
packet
that
they
need
to
acknowledge
to
to
counselor.
His
point,
like
you
know,
I
think,
labor
standards,
the
fire
safety
stuff,
I
think,
frankly,
included
in
the
fire
safety
stuff,
the
kind
of
clear
traffic
lane
hey
you
can't.
G
But
I
yeah
that's
my
instinct.
Is
I
hear
what
chris
is
saying,
which
is
you
know,
isd
just
checks,
whether
you
have
a
certificate
on
these
food
savings,
food
training,
things,
and
so
they
you
know
they
can't
they've
got
to
know
what
they're
checking
for.
But
I
think
if
what
they're
checking
for
is,
oh,
and
also
you
got
this
packet,
have
you
acknowledged
that
you
got
it
and
that
you
read
it?
G
That
seems
like
something
that
could
go
in
an
isd
regulatory
process
and-
and
I
don't
think
we
have
to
be
too
detailed
in
the
ordinance
about
what
falls
into
that
category.
I
mean
we
can
just
list
a
few
of
the
types
of
things
that
that
might
cover,
but
I'm
confident
that
we'll
have
an
ongoing
conversation
with
the
department
about
how
this
plays
out
in
practice
so
yeah.
G
I
think
I
think
those
were
all
of
my
points
and
I'm
sure,
as
soon
as
I
give
up
the
floor,
I
remember
another,
but
but
again
have
to
do
it
before
I
confess
anything.
So
the
floor
is
yours.
Madam
chair.
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
again
I
I
neither
admitted
nor
denied
any
illicit
activity.
I
simply
stated.
I
A
That
may
have
happened
neither
either
admitting
or
denying
we've
also
been
joined
by
counselor
flaherty
counselor
royal.
You
are
next.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
would
love
some
of
the
braden
jam.
I
didn't
know
that
was
a
thing,
but
I've
signed
me
up
as
well
for
that
it's,
so
I
just
want
to
touch
because
I
did
not
see
all
of
it
all
of
this
hearing.
I
have
gone
through
the
ordinance
as
it's
written
I'd
like
to
thank
everybody
for
their
diligence
on
that
and
sort
of
fleshing
that
out
into
a
real
document.
M
In
terms
of
just
the
thing
I
heard
about
parking,
you
know,
I
would
just
note
that
on
my
street
right
right
now,
it's
11
27,
I've
already
seen
three
amazons
ups
and
fedex,
and
so,
if
we're
not
requiring
corporations
like
that
to
do
anything
special
when
they
are
just
out
and
about
10
times
10
or
11
times
a
day,
I
might
see
those
vehicles
on
my
on
my
street,
my
residential
street.
M
I
don't
think
we
have
to
worry
about
burning
a
private
home
that
might
be
selling
a
couple
jams
or
teas
in
a
way
that
we're
not
burdening
our
major
corporations,
and
so
you
know
from
that
standpoint,
I
just
don't
think
that's
a
that's
something
that
I'm
personally
concerned
on
in
terms
of
the
double
parking
residential
thing
for
this
in
terms
of
the
worker
labor
law
thing
I,
as
far
as
I
understand
it,
there
was
some
back
and
forth
there
about
you
know
who
would
do
the
training?
M
I
M
Way
to
do
it
and
shouldn't
really
burden
the
process
much
at
all.
So
I
like
that
resolution
and
I
think
that's
a
important
point
to
make.
I,
though
I
think
that
maybe
hopefully
you
know
I
I
can't
speak
to
it,
but
I
would
hope
it's
a
a
minimal
issue.
M
I
think,
if
it's
an
issue
that
exists
that
we
can
address
with
an
actual
one-pager,
then
that's
a
big
impact
for
a
small
thing
to
do,
and
so
I
would
like
to
see
that
as
well
and
it
sounds
like
that's
a
good
way
to
do
it
in
terms
of
just
the
hold
up
in
doing
it
post,
budget
or
pre-budget.
I
don't
see
why
we
couldn't
do
this
pre-budget.
To
be
perfectly
frank-
and
I
missed
some
of
that.
M
So
if
there's
like
a
good
reason
that
I
I
missed
on
that
I'm
happy
to
hear
it,
I'm
happy
to
also
take
a
call
offline
if
it's
not
worth
having
a
conversation
here
on,
but
I
think
what
we're
talking
about
is
giving
people
who
are
struggling
in
this
moment
a
lifeline,
something
where
they
can
make
some
money.
Some
some
food
money,
some
grocery
money.
Some
rent
money,
whatever
this
is
for
them
personally,
something
that
helps
keep
the
lights
on
whatever.
That
is.
M
I
don't
think
we
need
to
delay
that
when
I
think
we've
really
reasoned
out
and
sort
of
sounded
out
a
really
nice
ordinance
here,
and
so
you
know
that's
where
I
am
on
it.
I
support
this
and
I
I
appreciate
the
thoughtfulness
that
everybody's
putting
into
this.
Thank
you.
A
Sorry
I
didn't
announce
him
earlier,
so
he
may
have,
but
he
was
here
counselor
it's
about
11,
30.,.
A
A
N
I
haven't
been
led
into
worse
places,
don't
worry
about
it!
Madam
chair
nope,
just
I've
been
paying
attention.
Obviously
I
was
participating
in
the
initial
hearing
and
as
well
and
had
to
stand
in
when
you
had
another
commitment
and
obviously
I've
been
supportive
of
the
lead.
N
Sponsor
and
again,
my
concerns
were,
I
think,
alleviated
in
the
initial
hearing
and
working
session
around
just
public
safety
concerns
as
it
pertains
to
you
know:
fire
code,
life,
safety
issues
and,
obviously,
and
then,
if
something
someone's
producing
a
food,
that's
really
good
and
there's
long
lines
outside
of
a
residence
or
cars,
double
parked,
etc.
N
Like
that
just
making
sure
that
we're
thinking
down
the
road
as
to
the
potentials
that
could
pop
up
from
here
to
here,
but
it
was
well
thought
through
and
obviously
the
hearings
in
the
working
sessions
have
been
robust
and
most
of
the
questions
that
I
had
were
answered.
I
know
that
the
fire
chief
was
on
as
well
so
again
just
listening
in,
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
opine
briefly
and
look
forward
to
your
committee
report
and
thank
you
and
thank
the
lead
sponsor.
A
Thank
you.
I
have
a
question
in
terms
of
the
whole
because
right
now
as
written
it
says
you
know,
shall
become
effective
immediately
and
again.
I
think
if
I
understood
council
flynn's
concerns
about
pre
or
post
budget.
It's
it's
not
so
much
the
budget
as
it
is
prep
or
isd
that
the
isb
has
the
prep.
I
also
think
that
there
might
be
some
a
reason
to
have
so
so
they
might
not.
We
may
not
have
to
wait
pre
and
post
budget.
A
So
much
as
I
see
you,
counselor
mikey,
I'm
a
finish
with
thought.
So
much
as
maybe
saying
shall
become
effective
in
30
days
or
come
effective
in
certain
amount
of
time
upon
passage
which
could
then
ifd
can
come
back
with.
We
intend
to
do
the
following
to
adjust,
but
also
for
me
as
a
landlord.
It
might
be
worth
it
then.
At
that
point
we
could
do
enough
media
push
saying
this
is
new.
This
is
happening.
This
is
what's
gonna,
you
know,
tenants
will
be
able
to
do
these
things.
A
So
if
you
wanna
have
that
conversation
with
your
tenant,
if
it's
a
concern
for
you,
you
might
wanna
get
ahead
of
that,
and
you
might
wanna
say
yes
or
no
in
the
least
or
you
might
want
to
say
I
don't
care
just
just.
Let
me
know
that
might
be
something
too,
so
there's
kind
of
a
prep
and
adjustment
as
well
that
we
could
just
allow
for
the
other
point
of
notification
of
landlords
that
we
have
is
the
landlord
registry
right.
A
So
the
landlord
registry
has
about
14
000,
I
think,
or
so
landlords
registered
or
units
registered
at
with
the
push
of
a
button
in
an
email.
You
get
my
fees,
but
I
mean
you
could
also
just
send
out
a
notification,
new
laws
or
new
notification
requirements
that
just
boom
just
send
out.
So
that's
also
something
too,
so
you
could
send
that
out
notify
the
whole
city
of
boston.
It's
worth
celebrating
too.
To
say
like
this
is
something
an
option,
a
lot
of
people
who
may
not
know
about
it,
who
may
think
like
wow.
A
I
could
actually,
I
desperately
need
to
make
some
side
income,
and
I
could
do
this,
and
this
is
the
permitting
process
and
so
just
basically
saying
build
in
a
little
bit
of
cushion
but
it'd
be
like.
We
could
still
possibly
pass
this
before
the
budget,
but
say
it
becomes
effective
in
30
days,
which
allows
for
isd
to
build
up,
allows
for
notification
to
go
out
allows
for
these
packets
to
be
finished.
A
You
know
all
these
things
that
we're
talking
about
allows
for
the
training
program
to
be
picked
for
the
food
safety,
but
also
allows
you
know
the
one
pager
to
be
done
in
more
than
one
language
so
that
we're
not
affected
immediately.
Okay
permits:
okay,
wait.
You
guys
got
to
wait
until
we
get
all
this
stuff
done
anyway.
B
Absolutely
not,
and
I'm
just
joking
not
teasing
you
no,
but
I
I
think
that
that's
I,
I
think,
that's
reasonable.
I
also
think
counselor
edwards
in
one
of
our
earlier
working
sessions.
In
regards
to
the
workload,
I
think
we
did
talk
about
giving
this
an
opportunity
to
see
how
many
isd
inspectors
like
how
how
does
that
shift
and
that
we
would
re-evaluate
this
for
the
next
budget
cycle.
B
I
think
that's
what
we
discussed,
trying
to
figure
out
the
how
so
perhaps
within
the
line
of
light
rolling
this
out
with
all
of
those
you
know
30
day
notice,
but
then
also,
I
think,
kind
of
like
a
an
overview
of
how
many
applicants
and
what
the
workload
looks
like
right,
that
we
could
kind
of
do
like
a
little
check-in
in
and
and
then
I
don't
know
quarterly
or
in
a
year,
whatever
you
think
to
be
acceptable,
but
I
do
think
to
satisfy
satisfy
counselor
flynn's
concern,
which
I
hear
in
every
hearing
about
how
much
more
we
need
of
everything.
B
A
B
Yeah
because
I
think
in
that
way,
we're
being
specifically
responsible
and
that
we're
able
to
do
an
assessment
and
then
adjust
our
budgets
accordingly
for
the
next
go
round.
If
we
see
that
there
is
an
uptick,
I
don't
I
don't
expect
hundreds
of
people
lining
up
to
fill
out
all
of
this
and
you
know,
but
you
never
know
this
might
be
super
duper
popular
and
and
then
I
mean
excuse
me
permission.
I
almost
called
you
counselor,
commissioner
irish,
like
having
to
figure
out
how
you're
gonna,
you
know
upkeep
the
demand.
B
J
B
And
then
to
account
for
clarity's
point,
I
think
you
know
we
had
some
really
good
direction
and
then
feedback
in
terms
of
how
we
could
address
some
of
the
safety
concerns,
and
I
really
do
appreciate
counselor
atholio's
analogy
or
example
of
all
these
other
parking
in
our
neighborhood.
B
H
L
H
And
I'll
be
quick,
as
I
just
want
to
follow
up
on
the
discussion
with
the
timing
piece,
the
the
boring
parts
of
this
are
just
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
getting
this
to
the
zoning
commission.
H
So
the
sooner
that
we
have
something
you
know
solidified
the
sooner
I
can
get
it
advertised
and
and
so
on
and
ordinarily,
the
default
position
is
when
it
is
advertised
it
becomes
the
de
facto
law
of
the
land,
so
it
could
apply
unless
we
say
otherwise,
it
will
apply
as
soon
as
I
as
soon
as
we
advertise
it
in
in
the
paper,
so
we're
gonna
just
flag
that
for
you,
I
think
this
is
maybe
something
that
wouldn't
need
to
go
through
the
full
bpda
board
recommendation.
H
If
it
comes
as
a
recommendation
from
the
council
as
a
as
an
ordinance,
the
zoning
amendment
itself
could
go
directly
to
the
zoning
commission,
but
I
just
want
to
flag
that
as
there's
a
there's,
a
sequencing
thing
that
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
so
lining
that
up
to
hit
the
next
zoning
commission
and
giving
us
enough
time
to
advertise,
it
will
be,
will
be
important.
G
H
April
I'm
trying
to
look
at
my
calendar
april,
15th
yeah
april
15th
and
then
may
the
next
one's
the
second
thursday
in
may,
which
is,
I
can't
reach
my
calendar,
I'm
using
a
paper
calendar
folks.
This
is
awesome.
I
believe
our
sony
commission
is
may
12th.
So
if.
F
H
We,
if
we,
if
that's
the
target,
may
12th
we
need
to
work
backwards
from
there.
I
need
to
be
able
to
advertise
it.
You
know
a
couple
weeks
beforehand,
etc.
So
I
just
want
to
flag
that
it's
it's!
C
A
H
A
H
K
H
We
advertise
the
zoning
commission.
The
zoning
amendment
right.
I
still
isd-
would
still
begin
flagging
things,
for
instance,
unless
unless
we,
unless
we
advertise
it
or
we
pick
a
different
date
for
it
to
become
effective
in
zoning,
I
know
that's
not
fun
stuff,
but
that's
that's.
I
have
to
think
about
that.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
thank
you,
counselor
ba
andre
and
then
counselor
bach.
L
Thank
you
so
much
just
to
be
very
clear.
I
know
we've
talked
about
this
over
and
over,
but
for
section
1b
part
d.
That's
talking
about
the
applicant,
who
is
the
renter
who
needs
permission
from
their
landlord?
Is
that
my
understanding
that
that's
being
taken
away
and
then
a
new
section
is
being
added
to
where
landlords
will
be
notified
or
the
neighborhood's
going
to
be
notified
on
these
permits?.
A
You're
correct
in
that
the
language
is
going
to
be
taken
away.
I
think
it's
great
that
you
are
prompting
us
to
figure
out
like
how
are
we
doing
this
new
notice
component
if
we
all
agree
to
it?
So
that's
a
great!
Let's
just
talk
about
that.
Do
we
want
notification
from
isd
or
the
city
shall
notify
landlords.
G
Bach
yeah,
so
I
think
there
we
could
add
a.
We
could
add
something
in
I
mean
under
compliance
and
enforcement,
or
something
like
a
thing
that
just
says
like
I
mean
because
it's
basically
it's
basically
something
that's
going
to
be
part
of
the
isd
regulatory
process
and
I
feel
like
we
shouldn't
in
the
ordinance,
be
like
too
specific
about
what
mechanism
isd
is
gonna
use
like
I,
I
trust
chris
and
and
commissioner
irish,
to
figure
that
out.
G
So
I
think
just
something
that
indicates
in
the
law
that
landlords
will
be
notified
and
I
think
it
might
belong.
G
I
mean
it,
it
might
belong
in
e,
since
that's
a
lot
about
what
what
isd
is
kind
of
doing
in
relationship
to
this,
like
as
a
as
a
section,
you
know
as
another
letter
section
inside
of
e.
That
would
be
my
comment
and
then
my
only
other
comment.
I
was
just
gonna
say
about
the
the
follow-ups
check-ins
with
isd.
G
I
think
we
should
put
the
I
think
we
can
put
those
in,
but
I
would
suggest
that
we
do
something
like
you
know
that
we're
going
to
check
in
about
it,
whether
it's
every
six
months
or
annually
or
whatever
for
like
the
first
couple
years.
I
don't
really
think
it
makes
sense
to
bake
in
an
infinite
check-in
with
isd
on
residential
kitchens.
G
Just
we
have
a
bunch
of
those
kind
of
dead
letters
that
hang
out
in
ordinances
and
we
don't
do
them
and-
and
it
feels
like
this-
is
something
where
what
really
matters
is
the
implementation,
and
I
agree
with
councillor
mejia
that
when
we
asked
that
question
at
the
last
working
session,
I
mean
the
number
of
these
right
now
is
very
small
if
it
stays
at
all
at
that
scale,
it's
not
going
to
necessitate
tons
of
additional
inspectors.
It's
like
you,
said
council
edwards
is
going
to
be
mainly
the
setup.
G
Obviously,
if
it
were
to
mushroom,
which
would
be
great
for
all
these
proprietors
like
we
would
want
to
know
that.
But
I
just
don't
know
that
it's
something
where,
if
I
think
about
all
of
isd's
regulatory
processes,
I
don't
know
if
this
one
specifically,
we
want
to
have
require
counsel
hearing
indefinitely.
A
That
makes
sense,
so
so
your
two
cents,
plus
some
language,
would
be
really
good.
So
how
about
I
can
deliver.
A
A
A
I
got
fire
marshall
tully,
you
raised
your
hand.
I
Yeah,
I
just
since
we
were
talking
about
like
the
landlords,
it'd
be
nice,
maybe
for
landlord
protections
on
the
one
page.
You
know
like
requirement
list
landlords
are
responsible
for
the
upkeep
of,
like
you
know,
the
smoke
detectors
and
fire
protection
features
in
ins.
You
know
in
your
home,
so
if,
if
the
companies
come
in,
for
you
know
repeated
food
in
the
stores,
like
commissioner
dempsey
touched
on
right
at
the
beginning,
you
know
sometimes
people
disconnect
their
smoke
detector
in
their
kitchen
because
it
keeps
going
off.
I
You
know
that
can't
be
tolerated
so
that
that
eventually
that's
going
to
fall
on
the
landlord.
You
know
they're,
ultimately
responsible.
So
I
do
I'm
just
trying
to
protect
the
landlords
too
here.
Thank
you.
A
Agreed
agreed,
I
think
the
one
pager
it's
it's.
I
think
we
discussed
that
it's
going
to
be
an
informative
packet,
that
they're
going
to
sign
and
acknowledge
that
they
got
the
information
and
so
we'll
we'll
check
in
with
we'll
probably
get
maybe
a
one-pager
or
some
sort
of
language
from
you
from
the
bfd.
A
By
you
I
mean
the
bfd
about
the
parking
as
counselor
brock
noted
and
about
other
things,
and
then
I
will
happily
help
inform
any
workers
rights
things,
and
then
we
just
get
the
whole
packet
together,
and
I
do,
I
think,
council
mejia's,
you
know
great
suggestion
that
they
sign
it
as
an
acknowledgement.
I
got
this
information,
so
they
can't
say
I
didn't
know
later
on.
A
That's
the
goal
and
then
they're
gonna
have
that
plus
they
have
to
do
the
actual
food
prep
certification
counselor
here
you
have
your
hand
raises
that
from
before,
or
is
that
for
right
now.
B
Yes,
I
do
have
a
quick
question:
counselor
edwards,
just
so
that
I'm
clear
in
terms
of
the
process,
it
would
just
be
helpful
to
know-
are
all
of
these
things
going
to
need
to
be
created
before
we
get
to
to
vote
like
I'll
like
the
training.
The
the
one
sheeter
is
that
all.
A
B
Okay,
so
I-
and
I
would
also
I'm
just
curious
in
terms
of
planning
on
you-
know,
recommendations
on
this
docket
like
what
what
are
the
next
steps?
How
are
we
moving
forward
with
with.
A
That
so
I'll
probably
check
in
with
you
on
offline
about
your
timeline.
I
know
brian
just
noticed
about
the
zoning
commission
that
there's
two
deadlines
to
look
out
for
for
the
zoning
amendment
to
actually
pass
and
get
before
them.
So
there's
the
april
deadline,
then
there's
the
may
one,
and
then
we
coordinate
that
and
check
in
with
the
whether
and
when
it
should
be
presented
before
our
body
to
get
it
moving
both
to
get
both
moving.
A
A
B
A
A
H
Thank
you,
counselor.
I
thought
about
the
about
the
timing
issue
a
little
bit
more
and
from
what
it
sounds
like
to
me.
You
know,
as
the
council
moves
this
forward,
you
know
we
could
already
lock
in
that
may
zoning
commission
date,
but
the
zoning
would
become
effective
as
soon
as
we
advertise
that
hearing
so
whatever
whenever
the
council,
you
know
assuming
it
this
the
ordinance
passes,
we
could
immediately
advertise
the
zoning
amendment
and
that
would
make
it
operational
and
functional.
In
other
words,
whatever
day
you
pick,
we
can.
H
We
can
put
that
in
the
in
the
zoning
amendment
that's
going
to
to
the
commission,
but
it
will
become
operational
whenever
you
say
so.
I
think
in
terms
of
zoning
commission
and
the
may
date's,
probably
the
best
date
to
look
for
otherwise
you're
going
to
be
really
rushed
to
get
this
advertised
and
it
would
need
to
be
advertised
like
you
know.
First
thing
next
week
for
for
an
april
zoning
commission,
but
yeah.
A
H
Then
yeah
and
it
won't
yeah
and
I'd.
I
think
it
would
be
a
mistake
to
advertise
something
that
hasn't
actually
been
been
been
passed,
but
we
can
work
that
out,
but
I
think
aiming
for
the
may
date.
My
point
is
whatever
date
you
pick
for
it
to
become
operational.
H
We
can
work
with
you
to
make
that
happen,
but
I
think,
as
a
practical
matter,
it
won't
go
to
the
zoning
commission
until
until
that
may
date,
just
because
it's
it's
I'm
looking
at
the
calendar,
it's
coming
coming
up
pretty
quick
okay,
but
we
can
make
it
operational.
Whatever
date,
the
council
so
chooses.
A
K
G
Two
weeks,
okay,
just
because
a
thing
that
I'm,
I
think
I
think
I'm
also
taking
from
brian's
comment.
Counselor
edwards
is
ideally
ideally
actually
because
it
becomes
effective
when
he
notices
it.
Ideally,
we
would.
We
would
actually
have
the
point
of
noticing
of
the
zoning
amendment
line
up
pretty
close
to
the
30-day
mark
from
the
passage
right,
because
otherwise
we
couldn't
we
end
up
in
a
situation
where
we've
just
made
it
legal
by
zoning,
and
we
haven't
yet
gotten
to
like
isd,
hasn't
run
out
their
clock.
G
So
just
yeah
just
flagging
that
for
your
question,
oh.
H
H
Can
we
can
tweak
in
whichever
way,
but
we
have
to
if
we
leave
it
to
chance,
then
it's
whenever
whenever
we
advertise
it
exactly.
A
All
right,
so
we
will
be
sure
to
be
specific
and
consistent
in
the
dates
that
we
put
in
for
the
effective
date
in
both
okay,
excellent,
all
right
unless
there's
anything
else
I'll
get
on
the
phone
count
them
here.
Why
don't
we
just
ping
each
other
in
our
calendars
to
make
sure
right
after
this
just
to
make
sure
we're
on
the
same
page,
but
just
forever
for
the
public's
knowledge.
A
A
B
I,
and
I
I
I
wasn't
sure
like
every
working
session
or
like
a
hearing
order,
is
different,
so
I
didn't
want
to
talk
out
of
term
if
there
were
any
closing
remarks,
I'd
like
to
say
something:
oh.
B
Okay,
I
know
I
just
wanted
to
just
thank
everybody.
There's
a
bit
a
lot
of
thought
and
I
really
do
appreciate
the
administration
in
particular
for
really
leaning
in
and
having
a
series
of
meetings
with
us
even
before
we
got
to
this
point
from
commissioner
irish.
I
know
you
have.
B
Your
team
has
just
been
incredibly
supportive
and
chris
english
too.
I
forget
your
title,
but
I
really
do
appreciate
you,
leaning
in
as
much
as
you
have
thank
you
so
very
much
and
just
everyone
and
my
colleagues.
I
know
you
asked
some
really
good
questions
and
I
think
that
you
know
you're
really
centering
this
on
those
that
you
know
are
going
to
be
blowing
up
your
phone
complaining
about
this
that
or
the
other.
B
So
I
do
appreciate
you
all
really
looking
ahead
and
making
sure
that
we
write
this
up
in
a
way
that
gives
us
all
the
cover
that
we
need
to
ensure
that
we're
doing
this
in
a
way
that
is
super
mindful
of
all
of
our
constituents,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
that
this
is
really
exciting.
If
this
is
something
that
we
can
do
for
the
city
of
boston,
I
think
that
we
can
follow
suit
with
so
many
other
municipalities
that
have
created
this
to
support
small
entrepreneurs.
B
So
I
just
wanted
to
thank
to
thank
everybody
for
their
time,
energy
and
effort
and
really
best
thinking
around
how
we
can
move
forward,
and
I
want
some
of
that
jam
right.
Braden
jam.
A
F
A
Yeah
well,
thank
you
all
for
participating
today
I
will,
we
will
be
in
touch.
It
looks
like
we've
come
to
a
great
consensus
and
very
happy
about
that.
That's
the
goal,
the
working
sessions
and
we
will
be
sure
to
make
sure
that
everyone's
notified
and
on
the
same
page
as
we
move
forward
so
counselor
here,
I
will
ping
you
shortly.
Okay,
thank.