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From YouTube: Committee on Government Operations on April 7, 2020
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Docket #0100, petition for a special law re: An Act Authorizing Additional Licenses for the Sale of Alcoholic Beverages to be Drunk on the Premises in Boston; and,
Docket #0281, petition for a special law re: An Act Authorizing Additional Licenses for the Sale of Alcoholic Beverages to be Drunk on the Premises in Boston
A
We
just
like,
if
I,
if
people
who
just
give
me
a
thumbs
up,
I'll,
be
able
to
scroll
through
and
say.
Thank
you
excellent,
alright.
So,
when
I
get
started
shortly,
we
had
some
folks
wanting
to
join
in,
but
I
don't
see
them
and
I.
Just
for
the
sake
of
time.
I
know
the
administration
wanted
to
get
on
to
other
business.
Today,
I,
don't
know
if
the
gun
from
Baek
ma
has
joined
us.
A
All
right,
I'm,
assuming
everyone's
here
from
the
administration
and
I,
have
gone
and
all
right.
Well,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead;
I,
don't
have
a
gavel,
so
I'll
use
my
water
bottle.
What's
the
official
check-in
anyway,
so
welcome
everyone.
My
name
is
Lydia
Edwards.
I'm
the
chair
of
government
operations
today
is
April
7th
2020.
This
is
hearing
his
regards
to
docket
zero
one,
zero,
zero
efficient
for
special
law
and
accurate
authorizing
additional
licenses
for
the
sale
of
alcoholic
beverages
to
be
drunk
on
the
premises
in
Boston
and
docket
zero.
A
Two
eight
one
petition
for
a
special
law
regarding
an
act
authorizing
additional
licenses
for
the
sale
of
alcoholic
beverages
to
be
drunk
on
the
premises
in
Boston
I.
Again
am
city
council
Lydia,
Edward's
chair
the
Committee
on
government
operations.
We're
here
today
for
virtual
hearing
on
those
two
matters.
A
These
matters
were
referred
to:
the
Committee
on
January
29
2020,
in
accordance
with
governor
Baker's
March
12
2020
executive
order,
modifying
certain
requirements
from
the
Open
Meeting
Law,
and
relieving
public
bodies
of
certain
requirements,
including
the
requirement
that
public
bodies
conducted
meetings
in
public
place
that
is
open
and
physically
accessible.
The
City
Council
is
conducting
this
hearing
virtually
be
a
zoom.
This
enables
the
City
Council
to
carry
out
its
responsibilities
while
hearings,
the
Public,
Health
accommodations
and
showing
public
access
to
its
deliberations
through
adequate
alternative
means.
A
The
public
may
watch
this
hearing
via
livestream
at
WWDC
gov
City
Council
TV.
It
will
also
be
rebroadcast
at
a
later
date
on
Comcast,
8r
c
n8
e
to
version
one
nine,
six,
four
or
Verizon
scuse
me,
one.
Nine
six
for
public
testimony.
Written
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
email
at
CCC,
dot
go
at
Boston
gov
and
will
be
made
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
the
councillors.
Both
of
these
home
Leticia
net
establish
additional
licenses
for
the
sale
of
alcoholic
beverages
in
the
city
of
Boston.
A
Frank
Baker
would
expand
the
number
of
non-transferable
licenses
for
the
sale
of
alcoholic
beverages
to
150
and
would
give
the
licensing
board
the
authority
to
grant
such
licenses
subject
to
certain
conditions
and
based
upon
neighborhood.
The
mayor's
proposal
also
creates
an
umbrella
license
for
qualifying
projects,
so
that
is
the
basic
understanding
of
the
two
matters
before
us.
I
just
wanted
to
say.
I
have
heard
from
individuals
like
why
this
hearing
should
go
on
at
this
time.
A
I
believe,
quite
frankly,
this
conversation
as
didn't
start
at
this
moment,
and
certainly
if
it
had
finished
and
we
provided
these
resources
before
we
wouldn't
need
it
today.
I
firmly
believe
that
part
of
the
recovery
of
any
part
of
Boston's
recovery
is
going
to
be
giving
all
the
resources
that
we
need
to
small
businesses,
including
if
there
are
additional
licenses.
A
I
do
know
and
I've
heard
that
there
will
be
some
restaurants
that
don't
make
it
in
their
licenses
may
be
available
at
the
end
of
this
I
understand
that
that
might
be
something
that
we
will
have
to
deal
with,
but
ultimately
I
don't
think
that
we
should
be
planning
for
an
aftermath.
We
should
still
be
planning
or
resources
that
our
restaurants
have
needed
and
still
need
again.
This
is
a
matter
of
adding
tools
to
the
toolbox.
It's
not
replacing
the
vital
conversations
that
we
are
having
about
the
emergency
funding
that
businesses
need
right
now.
A
It
is
not
replacing
the
conversations
that
we
are
having
and
had
about
renters
and
the
need
for
people
to
get
resources
right
now.
So
this
is
just
a
matter
I
believe
of
the
City
Council
doing
this
job
and
having
this
conversation
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
now
to
the
administration
to
discuss
I'm
sorry,
I
apologize.
Let
me
recognize.
I.
Have
my
colleagues
who
were
join
me
today
apologize
vice
chair
of
the
Committee
on
government,
jobs,
city,
councilor,
at-large,
Michael
clarity?
A
We
also
have
with
us
district
city,
councilor
and
answer
of
docket
zero,
two
eight
one
counselor
Frank
Baker
from
district
3,
and
we
also
have
district
city
councilor
from
South,
Boston,
counselor,
ed,
Flynn
and
excuse
me
as
city
council
president
from
district
7.
Excuse
me
counselor,
Kim,
Janey
and
district
city
counselor
from
lowest.
Did
you
make
a
plain
West
Roxbury,
both
city
councilor,
Matt,
O'malley,
district
six
and
am
I
missing
any
of
my
colleagues.
I?
Do
apologize,
I,
don't
see
you
on
the
screen?
A
B
B
Council
I
think
you're
doing
a
great
job
of
hosting
a
meeting
on
June.
So
thanks
again
for
extending
the
before
I
get
into
the
proposal,
details
I'd
be
remiss
if
I
did
not
acknowledge,
as
you
did
councillor
Edwards.
The
context
of
this
conversation
has
obviously
changed
since
the
first
time
the
Home
Rule
petition
was
filed
as
part
of
Mayor
Walsh's
like
2019
and
20
States
slative
agenda.
B
While
we
still
believe
this
legislation
provides
important
increases
in
flexibility
to
our
current
license
like
a
license
quota
system
and
that
those
changes
will
ultimately
help
our
small
business
community.
We
also
know
that
it
is
not
the
primary
challenge
facing
small
businesses
at
this
moment
to
the
small
business
communities,
small
business
owners
that
are
watching
right
now.
Please
be
assured
that
we
are
here
for
you
and
are
working
around
the
clock
to
ensure
that
you
survive
these
challenging
times.
B
You
are
and
continue
to
be,
the
heart
of
Boston's
economy,
providing
over
a
hundred
seventy
thousand
jobs
and
generating
fifteen
billion
in
annual
revenues.
Your
success
is
our
success
and
we
are
committed
to
helping
you
in
every
way
that
we
can,
over
the
last
several
weeks,
we've
been
hosting
hundreds
of
small
businesses
on
conference
calls.
In
fact,
we
have
another
one
today
at
3:00
p.m.
so.
If
you
can
join
us,
join
us
for
the
latest
on
resources
for
small
businesses.
I
am
in
awe
of
the
resilience,
creativity
and
even
optimism
during
this
pandemic.
B
I
encourage
everyone
to
please
visit
Mayor
Walsh's
economic
development
web
page
to
learn
more
about
the
resources
available
to
you
today.
I
encourage
everyone
to
particularly
pay
attention
to
the
small
business
relief
fund
that
we
are
currently
accepting.
Applications
for
I
now
want
to
turn
to
the
mayor's
Home
Rule
petition
pending
before
this
committee.
We
can
all
agree
that,
as
municipal
officials,
we
want
to
foster
neighborhood
environments
in
which
people
can
live
work
shop.
Any
small
businesses
and
local
food
establishments
are
an
integral
part
of
making
that
happen.
B
Unfortunately,
not
every
neighborhood
has
the
same
portfolio,
small
businesses
and
anything
we
can
do
to
encourage
a
full
Complementary
of
small
businesses,
particularly
those
where
people
can
gather
with
families
can
meet
and
where
business
can
be
transacted,
then
we
would
be
doing
a
lot
of
justice
for
the
economic
future
of
that
neighborhood.
In
order
to
support
our
thriving
communities
and
these
businesses
mayor
Walsh
filed
docket
number
zero
one,
zero
zero
to
promote
economic
growth
by
increasing
our
liquor
license
quota.
B
The
current
number
of
licenses
per
state
law
is
not
sufficient
for
neighborhoods
and
does
not
correspond
with
Boston's
continued
population
growth
and
real
estate
boom.
Therefore,
Mayor
Walsh's
proposal
would
add
a
total
of
180
for
non-transferable
liquor
licenses
to
be
phased
in
over
three
years.
The
breakdown
of
the
licenses
are
as
followed:
five
licenses:
three
all
alcohol
and
two
multi-line
a
year
for
three
years
for
each
of
the
following:
neighborhoods
Dorchester,
News,
Boston,
Hyde
Park,
to
make
a
plain,
Mattapan,
Mission,
Hill,
Roslindale,
Roxbury
and
Charlestown.
B
That's
a
dirty
dog
tour,
one,
one
all
alcohol
for
law,
nandi
at
the
convention
center
and
one
all
alcohol
for
the
Bruce
bowling,
Municipal
Building
in
Roxbury,
one
our
alcohol
license
for
the
Huntington
Theatre
in
the
Fenway
Kenmore
neighborhood
and
one
alcohol
all
alcohol
license
for
the
Boston
Center
for
the
Arts
in
the
South
End.
This
legislation
also
creates
a
one-year
cool-off
period
for
any
licensed
liquor
license
operator
who
sells
their
transferable
license,
barring
them
from
applying
for
a
non-transferable,
restricted
license
for
the
same
location.
B
Lastly,
the
mayor's
Home
Rule
petition
also
creates
project
certifications
by
the
Boston
Licensing
Board
for
large
commercial
and
mixed
use.
Developments
under
which
each
individual
operator
may
apply
for
a
license
from
the
Boston
licensing
board
without
impacting
the
lictors
Kermit.
Excuse
me,
the
city's
current
liquor
license
cap
eligible
projects
must
be
over
700
thousand
square
feet
with
at
least
225
thousand
square
feet
of
which
needs
to
be
commercial
space.
There
will
be
an
annual
administrative
fee
of
a
hundred.
B
Fifty
thousand
for
these
projects,
and
the
project
certification
licenses
will
help
protect
the
neighborhood
licenses
that
that
would
be
allocated.
We
believe
this
proposal
is
a
balanced
approach
that
will
help
attract
new
establishments,
assist
small
businesses
and
provide
an
equitable
entry
point
for
entrepreneurs,
particularly
and
historically
underserved
neighborhoods.
However,
as
we've
discussed
already
to
do
the
severity
of
the
issues
before
us,
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial
to
revisit
this
matter
in
a
few
weeks
ahead
and
adjust
as
necessary
to
best
serve
current
current
and
future
businesses.
Thank
you
again
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
A
You
very
much
before
I
go
to
Kathleen
I
didn't
know
if
to
comment
on
either
one
of
the
dockets,
because
councillor
Baker
has
also
filed
a
hearing
order
to
be
heard
today.
Do
you
mind
Kathleen
if
I
turn
it
over
to
counselor
Baker
to
see
if
he
wanted
to
for
any
opening
remarks?
Councillor
Baker
I
apologize
for
not
going
to
you
first,
you
have
this.
This
docket
did
I,
don't
know,
discuss
your
your
dot,
your
docket
or
distinguishing
it
from
the
mayors
and
and
just
a
quick
summary.
If
you
would
please.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I
would
like
to
start
by
saying
that
this
hearing
was
filed
and
scheduled
prior
prior
to
us.
Knowing
the
severity
of
coronavirus.
I
know
that
we
may
be
potential
for
many
of
the
current
liquor
licenses
that
are
already
unused
to
return
to
the
city.
However,
we
were
not
in
this
predicament
when
the
legislation
was
filed,
the
intent
is
to
help
local
businesses
thrive
within
our
neighborhoods.
C
His
formal
petition
for
a
special
Oregon,
an
act
to
authorize
additional
licenses
for
the
sale
of
alcoholic
beverages
to
be
drunk
on
the
premise
involved
in
Boston
will
amend
the
Massachusetts
General
Laws.
To
specifically,
add
the
city
of
Boston
licensing
board
may
grant
up
to
150
non-transferable
liquor
licenses
over
a
three
period
for
the
sale
of
alcoholic
beverages
to
be
drunk
on
premise.
C
With
that
being
said,
I
have
a
concern
about
what
the
economy
could
potentially
look
like
and
how
many
licenses
will
will
definitely
come
back
to
the
city,
and
those
licenses
will
probably
be
the
non-transferable
neighborhood
licenses,
but
the
position
that
we're
in
I
can
understand
that
you
know
trying
to
get
something
to
the
to
the
legislature
to
see
if,
if
there's
help
after
this
coronavirus
and
I,
don't
want
to
miss
that
opportunity.
So
what
I?
C
What
I
wanted
to
to
suggest
to
the
chair
was
take
my
legislation
because
I
think
the
mayor's
legislation
there
are
some
good
parts
in
it.
You
know
the
law,
nandi
and
different
organizations,
but
I
think
that
that
is
complex
and
can
I
think
we
can
wait
on
it.
We
can,
as
district
city
councillors,
file
those
as
home
rule
petitions
as
District
City
Council's,
you
know,
potentially
district
to
Eddie
could
file
for
lawn
and
D
as
a
separate
partition
in
in
a
couple
months.
C
With
that
being
said,
I
would
like
to
put
forth
I
talk
to
Christine
a
bit
before
this
to
to
amend
my
to
amend
my
my
up,
my
home
rule.
Instead
of
doing
a
three
year
three
year,
five
licenses
I
would
like
to
I
would
like
to
put
something
forth.
That
would
just
be
one
year,
one
year,
three
licenses
to
all
those
neighborhoods
that
we
had
that
we
had
talked
about
adding,
adding
to
make
a
flame
to
make
a
plane
was
not
in
there.
So
so
three
licenses,
one
of
them
being
beer
and
wine.
C
That
would
cover
us
in
this
time.
In
case,
we
need
to
get
something
up
to
the
Statehouse
and
I,
don't
see
the
need
in
anybody's
neighborhood
being
more
than
one
or
two
licenses
in
the
next
six
months.
We'll
be
fortunate.
If,
if
there's,
if
there's
three
in
the
whole
city,
I,
think
I
think
I
think
that
this
this
coronavirus,
the
app
meet
the
aftermath,
is
going
to
be
far
worse
than
what
we're
going
through
right
now
in
the
economy.
C
C
We
could
talk
to
our
our
state
legislators
and
it
was
an
appetite
for
it.
It
would
be
there
and
we
could
pass
that
and
it
wouldn't
and
it
wouldn't
flood
the
market
like
in
Dorchester.
If,
in
three
years
we
added
15
licenses
high
high
likelihood
that
that
would
absolutely
flood
the
market
and
it
would
make
it
difficult
for
anybody
that
was
is
trying
to
keep
their
doors
open.
So
I
hope
I
said
enough.
C
If
people
want
to
see
that
see,
see
that
type
of
you
know
change
happen,
changes
happen,
I
can
have,
I
can
have
Christine,
send
it
off
to
the
chair,
just
throw
that
out
there
all
we
could
keep
it
simple
and
just
talk
about
what
is
in
front
of
us
today
very
similar,
similar
legislation.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
D
A
E
Problem,
thank
you
for
inviting
me
to
participate
in
today's
hearing.
My
name
is
Kathleen
Joyce
and
I'm.
Chair
of
the
licensing
board
for
the
city
of
Boston.
The
licensing
board
is
the
regulatory
body
that
issues
a
liquor
licenses
for
the
sale
and
service
of
food
and
alcohol
and
regulates
the
establishments
that
do
the
same
before
I
get
into
the
rest
of
my
discussion
on
the
legislation
before
you.
It's
important
to
remember
that
the
or
closures
of
dining
rooms
in
our
restaurants
means
the
entire
restaurant
industry
will
take
a
hard
hit
in
the
months
to
come.
E
It
remains
to
be
seen
how
the
restaurant
industry
will
recover
particularly
small,
non
chain.
Restaurants.
To
that
end,
the
board
has
been
working
closely
with
our
licensees
during
this
time
to
ensure
an
open
dialogue
and
providing
them
with
the
information
and
available
resources.
We
have
a
weekly
phone
call
with
the
attorneys
that
appear
before
our
board
and
we
take
questions
and
we
try
to
offer
them
all
the
resources
that
we
have
available
to
us.
E
E
Sorry,
policymakers,
as
the
council
is
aware,
the
number
of
liquor
licenses
in
the
city
is
established
by
the
legislature.
The
availability
of
a
license
at
any
given
time
is
fluid.
Unrestricted
licenses
are
routinely
transferred
between
businesses
or,
if
unrestricted
return
to
the
city
upon
the
closure
of
business.
E
Responsibility
for
licensing
the
sale
and
distribution
of
alcoholic
beverages
is
shared
between
the
local
Licensing
Authority
our
board
and
the
ABC
see
procuring
a
license
involves
three
steps:
approval
by
our
board,
where
we
make
a
public
need
determination,
approval
by
the
ABC
see
in
the
actual
issuance
of
the
license
by
our
board.
With
certain
conditions,
the
licensing
board
holds
a
public
hearing
to
consider
any
new
application
for
a
license.
First,
the
board
looks
to
determine
whether
there's
public
need
for
the
type
of
license
at
the
proposed
location.
E
Second,
the
board
looks
at
the
character
and
fitness
of
the
applicant
together.
We
use
these
determinations
to
figure
out
whether
or
not
granting
the
license
would
be
in
the
interest
of
the
common
good
at
this
location.
Once
the
board
determines
that
the
granting
of
the
license
should
be
made,
the
board
will
then
look
to
whether
there
is
an
available
license
for
which
the
applicant
qualifies.
E
If
there
is
an
available
license,
the
board
will
grant
the
license
and
the
application
will
be
forwarded
to
the
ABC
C
for
their
review
and
approval,
if
I
could
take
a
minute
to
talk
about
what
public
name
means
in
terms
of
the
board.
Public
need
is
the
legal
standard
applied
by
the
board
in
determining
whether
to
grant
a
new
license
or
to
approve
the
transfer
of
a
license
to
a
new
location.
E
This
is
well-articulated
standard
that
includes
factors
such
as
the
type
of
license
sought
at
the
particular
location,
whether
it's
wine
and
malls
are
all
alcohol.
The
type
of
operation
at
the
proposed
location,
whether
it's
a
small,
family-owned,
Mexican,
restaurant,
surrounded
by
large
Italian
sports,
large
time
steak,
houses
or
sports
bars
in
the
number
of
existing
licenses
in
the
surrounding
areas.
At
one
point,
the
Seaport
used
to
be
considered
underserved,
but
now
has
many
licenses.
E
The
north
end
is
saturated
public
support
of
neighbors
and
elected
officials
and
the
impact
on
the
public
good,
like
traffic
parking
trash
quality
of
life
concerns.
The
determination
of
public
need
at
a
specific
location,
for
a
specific
proposal
is
fluid
where
the
board
may
have
found
public
need
in
a
specific
neighborhood
at
one
time.
As
I
had
said,
the
Seaport
area
in
2006,
they
may
not
currently
exist
a
public
need
for
a
restricted
license.
As
such,
we
review
each
application
on
its
individual
merits
and
we
don't
speak
to
hypotheticals
in
2006
and
2014.
E
The
legislation
sought
to
create
new
licenses
for
specific
areas
in
the
city
that
were
underserved
by
liquor
licenses
at
that
time.
In
2006,
the
legislature
increased
the
number
of
available
license
in
the
city
with
a
focus
on
Main
Street
districts,
empowerment
zones
in
municipal
harbour
zones
in
2014.
The
legislation
had
a
specific
post
focus
on
Main
Street
districts
and
specific
neighborhoods
Dorchester
Roxbury
Mattapan
Jamaica
Plain
Mission
Hill
Roxbury,
East
Boston
and
Hyde
Park.
E
It's
important
for
the
council
to
note
that
there
are
certain
areas
in
the
city
that
do
not
qualify
for
either
a
2006
restricted
license
or
a
2014
restricted
license,
for
example,
Boston
and
Brighton
in
certain
areas
of
South
Boston.
Even
if
an
applicant
in
one
of
those
areas
demonstrated
a
public
need
to
the
board,
the
only
option
would
be
to
purchase
a
license
on
the
open
market
and
apply
for
a
transfer.
Growth
in
our
neighborhoods
is
directly
tied
to
restaurants
and
restaurants
that
have
liquor
licenses.
E
The
board
is
sensitive
to
existing
license
holders
and
how
additional
liquor
licenses
may
impact
them.
But
these
additional
licenses
will
provide
flexibility
in
an
entry
point
for
the
small
business
owner
who
would
otherwise
be
prohibited
and
during
the
Boston
restaurant
market,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
as
to
the
specific
pieces
of
legislation
before
you
as
a
regulator.
I
don't
have
an
opinion
but
I'm
interested
to
see
how
these
move
through
the
process.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
really
do
appreciate.
Is
there
anyone
else
or
in
the
administration
who
needed
or
wanted
to
testify?
We
do
have
we'll
start
with
some
some
questions
I'm
going
to
skip
the
open
opening
remarks
from
my
colleagues,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
if
we
had
questions
for
the
administration,
we
could
ask
them
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
comments
from
the
public
and
folks
invited
to
come
testify
today.
A
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
good
afternoon.
Everyone
I
appreciate,
obviously
councillor
Baker's
amendments
and
I,
look
forward
to
seeing
those
in
writing
when
they
get
distributed
and
just
wanna
sleep,
maybe
address
chief
Barroso
I
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
moving
parts
today
that
we're
not
here
a
month
ago.
This
initially
obviously
was
in
response
to
food
deserts
and
then,
as
you've
seen
like
I
have.
This
has
evolved
into
all
of
my
colleagues
and
beyond
sort
of
tacking
on.
F
If
you
will
wanting
more
licenses
more
licenses
to
the
point
where
we're
now
I
think
the
ask
is
180
for
quite
frankly
at
a
time
when
we're
not
quite
sure
that
you
know
most
of
the
existing
businesses
are
going
to
be
viable.
There's
some
chocolate,
maybe
as
many
as
25%
of
them,
will
be
closed
for
good,
not
just
in
our
city
but
across
surrounding
in
a
budding
neighborhood.
So
so
I
have
concerns.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
trading
lightly,
because
this
this
is
an
industry
that
impacts.
F
You
know
I
want
to
businesses
and
a
lot
of
employees
and
making
sure
that
we're
taking
prudent
steps
and
maybe
through
through
the
chair
friendly
amendment-
is
that
those
184
non-transferable,
maybe
they
get
spread
out
and
set
up
over
three
years.
Maybe
we
talked
about
maybe
over
five
years,
just
again
as
a
stopgap
in
more
importantly,
I'd
love
to
see
the
administration
set
up
a
commission
that
takes
a
look
at
the
Cova
19
impacts
on
our
hotels
on
our
restaurants,
on
our
bars
and
lounges
and
maybe
even
add
our
creative
economy.
F
F
Existing
inventory
I
have
a
lot
of
concerns
about
our
existing
inventory
and
our
commitment
to
them,
and
so
maybe
a
little
bit
of
a
less
concern,
sort
of
new
and
emerging
ones
that
haven't
that
haven't
started
yet
I
think
that
we
have
a
responsibility
to
sort
of
our
existing
stakeholders
and
their
employees
to
make
sure
that
they're
in
a
good
position
to
succeed
and
move
forward.
So
I
look
forward
to
participating
on
chief
bios's
call
later
this
afternoon,
but
those
are
sort
of
some
of
my
concerns
and
also
around
the
parameters.
I
believe
it
was.
F
F
F
Start
of
Easter
I
want
to
refocus
everyone
on
where
this
started.
This
started
as
they
need
to
address
the
city's
food
deserts.
There
were
certain
parts
of
our
city
that
were
in
dire
need
of
a
shot
of
economic
development
and
also
an
opportunity
to
to
provide
you
know,
sort
of
smaller
local
proprietors
with
the
opportunity
to
establish
a
business
and
get
a
footprint
in
their
respective
communities,
and
then
it's
just
as
morphed
into
today's
ask,
which
is
184
non-transferable
license.
F
This
discussion
or
kind
of
maybe
pare
it
down
a
little
bit
and
start
a
commission
that
can
address
some
of
these
issues
and
then
down
the
road.
If
we
need
to
increase
that
capacity.
So
again,
that's
my
question
or
I'm
opening
on
it,
but
I
think
there's
some
serious
concerns
here.
We
also
have
the
issue.
No
other
establishment
owners
across
the
city
are
able
to
join
in
today.
Hopefully,
we'll
leave
them
and
they
can
give
us
a
front-row
seat
for
what
they're
experiencing
with
respect
to
their
rent,
their
mortgage,
their
employees,
employment,
their
insurance,
etc.
F
A
G
G
My
comments
are
focused
on
something
similar
to
what
counsel
of
clarity
echoed
every
opportunity
over
the
last
month
to
talk
to
a
lot
of
restaurant
owners
in
my
district
due
to
the
coronavirus,
and
many
of
them
obviously
are
struggling.
A
lot
told
me
that
it
might
be
very
difficult
for
them
to
reopen.
I
talked
to
the
mass
restaurant
association
and
they
highlighted
the
same
issues
in
a
lot
of
these
restaurants
employed.
G
So
many
workers
I
look
at
look
at
it,
also
from
a
jobs
perspective,
the
the
dishwashers
and
the
cooks
and
the
the
bartenders
and
the
cleaners
a
lot
for
a
lot
of
them
they're
there,
immigrants
and
some
of
them
are
also
it's
their
second
job
or
third
job
in
there
they're
working
hard
to
to
make
ends,
meet
and
now
they're
out
of
a
job
and
unlikely
what
the
status
will
be
for
that
worker
unlikely
to
know
what
the
status
is
for
that
restaurant.
Well.
For
that
bar
there's,
just
so
many
unanswered
questions.
G
G
How
do
they
pay
their
bills,
but
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
meaningful
conversation
with
restaurant
owners
with
neighborhoods
with
the
workers,
especially
and
find
out
what
they're
thinking
I
know.
Michael
clarity
mentioned
having
a
maybe
a
commission
I'd
love
to
have
a
I
agree
with
them.
I'd
also
like
to
have
a
City
Council
hearing
on
the
impact
this
would
have
on
the
workers
and
I'm
not
for
this
proposal
or
I'm,
not
against
this
proposal.
I
think
it's
it's
a
good
start,
but
there's
just
so
many
unanswered
questions
as
we're
in
a
recession.
G
Right
now
and
it's
gonna
be
very
difficult
for
this
city-
we're
doing
good
work
and
reaching
out
to
small
businesses,
but
it's
gonna
be
very
difficult
for
a
lot
of
these
businesses
to
truly
open
and
I
want
to
be
surprised
if
30
or
40
percent
of
them
don't
open
what
type
of
impact
would
that
have
on
the
small
businesses.
You
know
a
restaurants
in
especially
their
workers.
G
So
again,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
councillor
Baker
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
council
Edwards,
the
administration
for
starting
for
starting
this
dialogue
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
learning
more
but
I,
don't
want
to
see
us
rush.
This
I
think
this
is
too
important
of
a
decision
to
rush
I
think
we
really
need
to
learn
about
what
impact
the
coronavirus
is
going
to
have
on
our
small
businesses
and
our
economy
in
Boston,
Thank
You
councillor.
Thank.
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
madam
chair,
and
to
my
colleagues
and
sponsor
Baker,
and
certainly
the
mayor.
This
is
an
important
conversation
also
reminded
of
my
colleague,
councillor
Flaherty's
comments
around
why
we
were
having
this
conversation.
Certainly,
my
district
is
under
represented
when
it
comes
to
liquor
licensing,
and
this
was
seen
as
a
path
toward
bringing
more
equity
in
terms
of
our
our
process.
H
H
Of
Austin
when
it
comes
to
equity,
and
so
one
we
have
to
think
about
recovery
efforts,
but
we
also
have
to
continue
to
be
mindful
into
an
intentional
around
what
our
starting
point
was,
and
so
I'd
love
to
hear
more
about
how
this
particular
docket
will
will
help
on
those
two
fronts.
Thank
you
and
that's
it
for
me,
happy
to
sit
back
and
listen.
H
A
You
very
much
I
just
figure
at
this
point.
We
can
continue
with
the
counselors
kind
of
opening
questions
and
whatnot
and
then,
if
it's
okay
with
chief
burrows
and
MS
Joyce,
if
it's
okay,
with
both
of
you
to
kind
of
take
them
in
the
collective
and
answer
them.
Some
are
some
are
more
statements
and
specifics,
but
I
just
for
the
sake
of
efficiency
and
I,
do
see
that
there
are
several
local
businesses
who
also
want
to
speak
on
this
matter
as
well.
Is
that
okay,
with
you,
chief
barrows,
miss
Lynch
all
right,
miss
Joyce.
I
You,
madam
chair
and
good
afternoon,
everybody
I,
hope
everyone
is
holding
up
well
and
safely,
and
your
families
as
well.
Thank
you
to
the
businesses
who
I
know
we
all
want
to
hear
from,
and
thank
you
to
members
of
the
mayor's
administration
who
have
done
just
remarkable
work.
I
think
that
the
fragility
with
which
we
are
dealing
is
really
underscored
by
this
hearing.
I
This
is
something
the
council
has
been
working
on
for
as
long
as
I've
been
a
member
of
this
body
and
long
before
that,
a
little
less
than
10
years
ago,
I
was
the
government
ops,
chair
former
councillor,
Ayanna
Presley
had
put
forth
a
liquor
license
bill.
It
was
one
of
her
landmark
achievements.
We've
been
continuously
doing
this
and
I
want
to
specifically
thank
councilor,
Baker
and
council
clarity
for
their
leadership.
I
I
agree
with
the
statements
both
both
of
our
colleagues
made
it's
an
important
tool
that
we
need,
but
the
new
reality
and
opposed
to
over
19,
Boston
and
America
is
that
there's
going
to
be
more
pressing
concerns
to
support
these
existing
small
businesses.
So
how
do
we
strike
that
right
balance?
It's
going
to
be
difficult!
A
lot
of
this,
we
are
going
to
figure
out
as
we
go
along,
but
we
want
to
both
allow
for
an
opportunity
for
businesses
and
a
at
once.
I
We
get
through
this
to
thrive
new
businesses
to
thrive,
but
we
also
need
to
make
sure
that
these
protections
and
precautions
in
place
for
those
existing
businesses
I'm
not
sure
any
of
us
know
how
to
figure
that
out.
But
it's
certainly
going
to
be
something
that
we
consider
and
deal
with
as
we
craft
this
as
we
craft
subsequent
legislation
and
other
supports
for
our
small
businesses
and
existing
businesses.
So
thank
all
of
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
having
this
and
convening
this
hearing.
Thank
you
to
my
colleagues
again.
I
I
want
to
support
the
maker
councillor
Baker
on
his
remarks,
as
well
as
councillor
clarity,
who
I
think
underscored
the
just
how
incredibly
complicated
this
this
issue
is
now
and
then
my
last
question,
or
my
only
question.
That
was
a
statement
when
the
administration
speaks
on
the
the
letter
from
the
mayor
that
accompanied
the
docket,
which
was
a
letter
of
January
7th.
It
sort
of
breaks
down
three
bullet
points
where
it
talks
about
the
five
citywide
alcoholic
license:
an
alcohol
license
for
Back
Bay,
Beacon
Hill
north.
I
That
excuse
me
yeah
five
citywide,
all
alcohol
license
for
Back
Bay
Beacon
Hill,
the
North
End,
and
then
the
licensing
board
may
grant
up
to
300
alcohol
to
wine
and
mount
licenses
for
Dorchester
East,
Boston
Hyde
Park,
to
make
a
plain
Mattapan
mission
in
Roxbury,
Rosedale,
Charlestown
and
the
third
bullet
point
reads:
licensing
board
may
grants
up
to
300
alcohol
licenses
and
tumult
and
wine
licenses
for
areas
designated
as
Main
streets.
District
West
Roxbury
was
not
included
and
I'm
the
first
bullet
point
or
the
second
bullet
point.
I
So
my
question
is:
is
West
Roxbury
included
in
that
third
bullet
point
because
of
course
there
is
a
main
street's
district
and
then
the
follow-up
on
that
is
other
areas
of
West
Roxbury,
specifically
Washington
Street,
as
you
head
towards
Dedham,
is
not
include
or
even
Spring.
Street
is
yeah
head
towards
Denham.
Neither
in
those
business
areas
are
including
the
main
streets
districts.
So
would
those
still
be
available
to
get
an
additional
license
if
we
get
to
that
point,
so
those
are
my
questions
than
them.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
J
I'm
still
here,
thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
makers,
of
course,
big.
A
lot
of
the
the
points
and
questions
have
been
made
by
my
colleagues
so
in
the
consideration
of
time,
I'm
going
to
leave
my
comments
there,
but
I
do
appreciate
everyone
being
present
being
engaged
here
today
in
this
conversation
and
throughout
sort
of
this
ordeal,
I
suppose
a
special
thanks
to
chief
barrows
for
his
work,
the
administration's
work
on
supporting
our
small
businesses
right
now
and
as
we
speak,
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
gonna,
add
some
questions
and
then
Baker
counselor
counselor
Baker.
Do
you
want
to
go
before
I
go
I
had
some
questions?
Okay,
so
my
questions
and
somewhat
comments
just
wanted
to
kind
of
go
through
a
list.
First
I
agree
with
our
what
everyone
else
has
said
that
the
ability
to
recover
from
this
moment
is
still
on
clear
and
how
we're
gonna
get
forward.
I
do
think
it's
worth
noting
that
the
businesses
that
have
liquor
licenses,
those
as
councillor
Janey,
noted
some
have
closed.
A
It
was
dependent
on
additional
licenses
being
available,
so
there's
a
lot
of
economies
waiting
and
small
businesses
waiting
to
launch
for
because
and
well
we'll
continue
to
wait
because
they
didn't
have
liquor
licenses
available.
I
understand
that
there
may
be
several
liquor
licenses
returned
back
to
the
city,
but-
and
the
administration
can
answer
this.
If
they're
returned
back
to
the
city,
they're,
not
necessarily
neighborhood
specific,
as
I
understand,
as
in
the
the
city
isn't
going
to
limit,
which
neighborhoods
get
them.
So
are
we
just
putting
them
back
in
the
city?
A
I
didn't
hear
that
listed
as
one
of
the
options
that
the
licensing
board
looks
at
so,
but
if
they
can
make
it
specific
quotas
versus
just
looking
at
the
neighborhood
surrounding
that
trash,
the
impact
on
sort
and
so
forth,
but
maybe
that's
another
option
and
those
things
are
returned.
It
and
I
would
love
at
some
point
a
follow-up
conversation
on
the
expected
return
of
those
licenses
in
terms
of
numbers.
We
don't
have
it
right
now,
but
I'd
like
that.
A
I
think
because
of
my
colleagues
have
such
great
conversations
are
the
Commission
limiting
the
current
docket
to
one
year
and
three
licenses,
it's
very
clear
for
those
who
are
on
land
listening
today.
This
is
not
going
to
be
a
one
and
done
conversation.
It's
will
probably
likely
take
the
time
that
it
normally
does
with
hearing
orders
from
this
to
a
working
session
to
moving
on
and
then
possibly
also
happen
to
wait
for
the
impact
or
looking
at
what's
going
on
before
this
comes
out
of
our
body.
A
C
C
I
think
it's
I
think
right
now,
it's
a
little
difficult
to
get
into
it
and
even
any
and
try
and
make
sure
that
we
send
up
to
the
Statehouse
is
gonna,
be
something
everybody
wants
the
way
we're
doing
business
now
and
and
and
to
speak
to
the
chairs
point
there.
There
were
some
neighborhoods
that
were
left
out
on
this
thing,
not
the
last
legislation
that
happened
and
I.
Think
with
with
my
changes,
I'm
trying
to
speak
to
those
neighborhoods.
C
It
then
that
weren't
weren't
taken
care
of
they'll
they'll
always
be
within
those
neighborhoods
and
I
think
cutting
off
the
last
two
years.
So
this
would
get
us
through
till
next
year.
We
could
we
could,
you
know,
potentially
if
there
was
more
need
which
again
I,
don't
think,
there's
going
to
be
more
need
next
year
we
could
refile
for
for
no
more
licenses,
then,
but
I
think
this
is
a
sort
of
measured
approach
to
to
I
think
what
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
So
hopefully
people
are
okay.
C
A
A
B
You
very
much
so
we
I
took
I,
took
notes
here
on
all
the
questions
and
comments
and
I'll
try
to
get
to
them
in
general
and
then
really
specifically
to
the
specific
questions.
I
think
it's
important
that
I
share,
that
we
right
in
the
beginning
of
the
crisis
began
surveying
our
small
businesses,
and
so
we
have
conducted
every
10
days,
a
survey
of
all
our
small
businesses
and
I'm
gonna
share
with
you
what
we
know
about
the
small
businesses
to
get
to
some
of
the
questions.
B
75%
of
our
small
businesses
lost
at
least
50%
of
revenues
during
those
first
20
days
of
the
crisis.
We
also
know
that
46
46
percent
of
our
small
businesses
are
now
closed.
Some
by
order
of
governor
some
by
the
fact
that
the
economy
just
doesn't
make
sense
for
them
to
keep
their
doors
open.
We
also
know
that
of
the
small
businesses
that
are
open,
that,
in
fact,
we
are
encouraging
our
small
businesses
to
continue
it,
and
particularly
the
food
businesses,
to
continue
to
sell
food
from
in
terms
of
delivery
and
take
up
the
question.
B
I
continue
to
get
from
small
businesses
today
and
the
food
sector
is.
Can
you
not
help
us
get
liquor
licenses
because,
of
course
it
would
help
our
takeout
and
would
help
our
delivery,
as
the
state
amended,
the
ability
for
small
businesses
to
be
able
to
sell
with
alcohol
with
wine
and
beer,
particularly
and
so
I
did
I.
You
know,
one
regret
is
that
we
didn't
move
on
this
legislation
earlier,
because.
C
B
We
did,
we
might
have
been
better
equipped
to
handle
the
colvett
issue
as
it
stands
today,
of
the
businesses
that
are
introducing
takeout
or
delivery
are
the
food
businesses
that
I
introduce
and
take
out
our
delivery.
We
are
reporting
that
they
are
really
excited
to
know
that
the
governor
lifted
the
the
issue
of
transportation
and
the
permit
needed
for
that.
The
issue
of
takeout
for
for
beer
and
wine
sales
I'll
also
share
that
as
we
cover.
In
fact
we
are,
there
was
some
there
were
some
comments
about.
B
C
B
Sorry,
so
let
me
just
release.
Let
me
just
inform
you
on
some
of
the
studies
that
we
are
doing
on
the
economy
and
I'll,
give
you
some
quick
stats
just
to
I
think
it's
good
context
for
this
conversation.
So
you
will
not
be
surprised
to
know
that
the
industry
that
is
the
hardest
hit
industry
right
now
on
Boston,
because
of
the
public
health
crisis,
is
the
accommodation
and
food
services
industry.
B
B
Dorchester
rocks
where
we
see
parts
of
Matapan
and
and
so
you're
not
gonna,
be
surprised
to
see
this
map
when
we
release
it,
and-
and
these
are
the
maps
where
you
know,
I-
think
that
councillor
Baker's
point
and
other
councillors.
In
fact,
we
will
see
high
percentages
of
businesses
that
will
have
a
struggling
time
in
trying
to
restart,
and
we
continue
to
see
the
same
disparities
that
you
have
seen
in.
Other
studies
be
disparities
around
low-income
neighborhoods,
we're
also
seeing
in
our
in
our
initial
intake
of
applications
to
the
Boston
Relief
Fund.
B
We
are
seeing
a
high
number
of
small
businesses
from
these
neighborhoods
apply
we're
seeing
a
high
number
of
minority-owned
businesses
apply
for
relief,
and
so
it
correlates
to
some
of
the
disparities
that
we've
seen
for
us
right.
I
want
to
contest
that
that
the
context
has
changed
that,
in
fact,
recognizing
that
the
colvett
issue
is
puts
us
in
a
new
place
and
we
should
continue
to
analyze
the
the
economy
and
the
issues
our
small
business
are
dealing
with
that.
B
We
continue
to
find
that
the
disparity
is
along
the
same
lines
of
the
disparities
we
found
before
and
at
issuing
new
licenses
to
these
neighborhoods
that
have
been
underserved
will
in
fact
enable
us
to
have
the
tools
that
we
need
to
help
these
neighborhoods
get
back
on
they're
on
track
and
maybe
and
maybe
come
back
quicker
than
they
would
otherwise.
When
we
came
out
of
the
2008
recession,
all
reports
show
that
low-income
neighborhoods
and,
depending
on
how
you
looked
at
demographics,
racial
racial
demographics
also
show
that
certain
communities
lagged
in
recovery
than
other
communities.
B
We
it's
a
trend
and
we
find
that
that
trend
will
probably
be
the
saying
this
time
around,
coming
out
the
Cova
tissue
that
certain
communities
will
lag
in
their
recovery
time
to
other
communities.
So
we
see
the
hardest-hit
communities,
be
our
low-income
communities
right
now
and
we'll
be
staring
those
numbers
shortly
and
we
think
the
recovery
will
be
such
now.
Let
me
get
to
some
specific
questions
that
were
asked
and
we
have
specifically
Matt
O'malley
counsel.
B
Mallory
asked
the
question
of
West
Roxbury
and
yes,
yes,
councillor,
the
West,
Roxbury,
Main,
Street
district
will
be
included
or
is
included
in
the
mayor's
legislation,
and
the
citywide
liquor
licenses
would
also
apply
to
the
other
parts
of
West
Roxbury
outside
of
the
main
street
district
councillor
Edwards,
you
asked
a
question
about
amendable
I.
Would
we
would
be
not?
Would
we
be
in
support
of
it
being
amendable?
I
think
that
that
we
are,
the
administration
is
in
support
of
it
going
to
the
state
amendable,
and
then
you
also
asked
a
question
about
restricted
licenses.
B
E
Thank
you,
I
think
all
these
questions
and
statements
point
to
the
fact
we
should
continue
to
have
these
conversations,
but
as
far
as
the
restricted
licenses
in
the
current
legislation,
they
would
have
to
go
back
to
the
neighborhoods
that
they,
if
they
were
returned
to
us,
the
neighborhoods,
they
came
from.
That's
not
the
case
with
the
2006
legislation,
so
any
restricted
license
is
tied
to
a
specific
piece
of
legislation
that
comes
back
to
the
board.
We
have
to
see
what
type
what
category
of
licenses
is.
Is
it
a
2006
or
2014?
E
There's
no
strings
attached
to
the
2006
that
they
go
back
to
a
particular
neighborhood,
but
for
2014
licenses
they
do
have
to
go
back
to
the
neighborhood
they
came
from.
If
they
are
returned
to
the
board,
we
can't
do
that
with
a
license.
That's
purchased
on
the
open
market.
If
something's
purchased,
you
know
in
East,
Boston
or
Jamaica
Plain
and
then
goes
to
downtown,
but
we
don't
have
the
legal
authority
to
restrict
that
transfer.
It's
a
private
transaction
on
the
open
market.
A
A
I
turn
it
over
to
either
the
chief
or
ms
Joyce.
You
just
want
to
make
sure
that
of
any
neighborhood
quota.
How
is
the
airport
licenses
impacting
that,
of
course,
I
represent
use?
Boston?
Is
the
airport
itself
able
to
petition
our
when
we
think
of
East
Boston
licenses,
total
I
just
want
to
be
clear
and
I
understand
now
the
way
you
think
about
it.
You
look
at
the
legislation
that
created
them.
You
know
there's
open
market.
A
So
if
there
is
yeah
I
see,
counselor
are
sorry,
miss
Joyce,
but
just
making
sure
I'm
clear
on
my
question:
if
there's
a
quota
put
out
for
East
Boston
under
any
legislation,
how's
the
airport,
counting
that
quota
and
then
on
the
open
market,
you
know
I,
guess
it
doesn't
really
matter
so
miss
Joyce.
In
this
she.
E
A
Thank
you
very
much
okay,
so
we
had
several
folks
join
us
and
who
would
like
to
testify
I'm
sure,
I
think
there's
an
app
or
that
allows
you
to
raise
your
hand,
but
we
had
also
specifically
asked
folks
from
the
industry
to
come
and
speak
on
both
of
the
matters
or
give
their
opinion
about.
What's
going
on,
you
don't
have
to
be
bound
to
the
specific
dockets
would
love
to
hear
as
industry
folks.
A
What
you
are
dealing
with
this
is
an
opportunity
to
really
expose
that,
and
also
your
ideas
for
recovery
in
as
much
as
how
these
liquor
licenses
will
be
part
of
that
or
not
or
shouldn't.
So
I
do
see
right
now.
I
have
looking
on
the
camera,
but
I
do
see.
I
have
mr.
Bob
laws,
both
less
apologize.
If
I'm
mispronouncing
your
name,
we
have
folks
from
East,
Boston's,
quiet
view
and
I
see.
A
We
have,
let's
see
just
making
sure
I,
see
a
Candice
Morales,
Stephen,
Clark,
Saguna
from
Beckman
and
so
I
think,
there's
an
app
that
allows
you
to
raise
your
hands,
but
that's
just
what
I
can
see.
They're
scrolling
through
so
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
turn
this
over
to
mr.
les
loves
love's
I
apologize
and
would
love
to
get
your
feedback
and
then,
after
after
you,
I'll
continue
on
okay
Bob.
K
K
This
process
started
in
January.
Well,
it
started
six
or
seven
years
ago
there
was
a
sunrise
with
with
an
oppressor
to
be
honest
with
you,
but
this
process
may
have
started
in
January.
We
proceeded
forward
and
I
really
disturbed
by
the
lack
of
respect
to
the
fact
that
they
needed
to
be
continuing
continued
scheduling
of
this.
K
Given
everything
that's
going
on
and
the
disaster
that
we
are
in
as
an
as
a
country
as
a
state
as
a
city
and
as
an
industry
and
as
you
just
heard
chief
barrows
say,
there's
no
industry,
that's
been
higher
effective
than
the
the
restaurant
industry.
Restaurant
Hotel,
hospitality
industry
I
asked
for
this
to
be
pushed
off.
I
would
have
thought
it
would
have
been
common
sense
that
we
needed
to
do
that.
K
Deaths,
history,
but
to
think
that
we
would
expect
owners
to
come
out
today
to
take
time
away
from
what
they're
trying
to
do
to
talk
about
expanding
liquor
licenses.
Quite
honestly,
as
a
slap
in
the
face
to
everybody,
that's
trying
to
get
through
day
to
day
right
now,
our
our
owners
and
myself
and
right
before
this
I
just
spent
an
hour
and
a
half
on
a
conference
call
between
Housing
and
Economic
Development,
Secretary,
Camille,
II,
undersecretary
mark
fuller
and
the
Massachusetts
Restaurant
Association
Board
of
Directors.
K
Just
on
how
we're
going
to
get
people
to
come
out
of
this
right.
Now,
our
owners
are
helping
employees
get
their
unemployment,
connect
them
with
programs
that
are
helping
the
most
vulnerable
they're
trying
to
negotiate
the
extremely
complicated
federal
loan
program,
they're
preparing
to
maybe
and
again
we're
holding
this
at
noontime.
So
some
of
those
who
have
been
able
to
try
and
figure
out
how
to
open
up
four
to
go,
maybe
if
they
didn't
do
it
before
they're
trying
to
do
that.
K
So
they're
not
unable
to
be
here
they're
trying
to
negotiate
when
landlords
to
say
hey,
I
got
no
revenue
coming
through
the
door.
How
do
we
do
this?
You
know
on
March
16th,
this
industry
put
out
put
three
hundred
thousand
people
out
of
work.
Three
hundred
thousand
people
in
Massachusetts,
that's
mind-boggling
through
March
22nd,
and
that's
what
I
have
strong.
K
D
K
Counselor
Baker
talked
about
is
the
twenty
five
percent
number
real.
You
know
what
I
hope
to
god.
It
is
because
I
fear
it
is
going
to
be
far
far
higher
than
that.
This
industry
has
seen
stuff
that
no
one
could
have
even
imagined
and
when
we
get
the
light
back
on
that
says:
ok,
it's
ok
to
open
and
by
no
means
do
I
am
I
banking
on
that
going
to
be
May.
K
It's
going
to
have
to
be
laid
out
totally
different
at
best,
operators
are
going
to
get
to
between
50
and
maybe,
if
they're
lucky
as
high
as
65%
of
capacity
from
where
they
were
before
you're,
not
going
to
be
able
to
have
people
to
wait
to
go
in
because
that's
not
going
to
be
allowed.
You
know
there
should
only
be
one
question
now
the
fact
and
chief
barrows
actually
said
it.
He
said.
Maybe
we
should
be
hit
and
pause
and
revisiting
this
few
months,
that's
responsible!
K
K
Any
questions
and
I
apologize
for
my
anger,
but
my
anger
comes
about
by
the
fact
that
the
things
we're
talking
about
today
takes
takes
out
of
account
every
operator
every
owner
inside
the
city
of
Boston.
That's
trying
to
keep
his
or
her
employees
going
that's
trying
to
reopen
and
trying
to
have
a
future
for
themselves.
K
The
other
thing
I
will
say-
and
this
is
important
to
understand-
because
you
asked
about
the
status
of
the
industry-
Boston-
is
actually
underperforming,
the
rest
of
the
state
in
terms
of
take
out
and
and
and
the
ability
to
do
that,
and
the
reason
is
because
there
are
so
many
restaurants
inside
of
Boston.
It's
the
highest,
obviously
density
in
the
whole
state.
You
know
so
there's
so
many
of
them
number
one.
K
K
So
I
would
hope
and
respect
the
fact
that
the
the
council,
what
chief
barrows,
talked
about
right
up
at
the
start
and
say
maybe
we
should
be
taking
hit
the
pause
button,
and
maybe
we
should
be
coming
and
revisiting
this
in
a
few
months,
because
again
we're
we're
far
far
away
out
from
either
being
remotely
close
to
being
able
to
say.
We
hope
that
restaurants
can
survive
and
that's
my
that's
my
story
and
I'm
sticking
to
it.
I
apologize,
you're
getting
a
little
emotional,
so.
A
We
have
what
I
see
one
one,
two
three
additional
folks
representing
businesses
or
perspectives.
It
might
make
sense
to
go
ahead
and
let
each
one
of
them
speak.
And
then,
if
the
council
and
the
folks
wanted
to
respond
or
ask
them
individual
questions,
it
would
be
a
little
I
think
a
little
bit
more
efficient.
So
up
next
I
have
I,
don't
know
who,
from
the
quiet
few
would
like
to
speak.
A
L
If
we're
able
to
get
and
hopefully
will
help
that,
because
we
want
to
take
care
of
our
staff
thus
far,
we
have
not
opened
for
take-out
of
delivery.
It
was
something
that
was
not
in
our
permitting
when
we
opened
because
of
giant
loopholes
in
issues
we
had
navigating
the
city
of
Boston,
so
we
weren't
prepared
to
do
takeout
or
delivery
and
honestly
I
don't
I
I,
and
this
is
just
from
where
we
stand.
L
That
is
just
me
personally
and
I
totally
appreciate
and
get
the
other
side
of
that,
because
places
do
need
to
make
money
and
we're
figuring
out
how
to
do
that.
We
have
a
community
that
really
is
backing
us
right
now
and
that's
and
that's
that's
helping
get
us
through
this
and
if
it
continues
into
tune
into
July,
maybe
we'll
will
change
our
tune,
but
I
don't
feel
safe,
working
those
shifts
and
I
don't
want
any
employees
working
a
shift
that
I
wouldn't
work.
L
That
being
said,
and
we've
spoken
internally
with
our
bar
about
this-
that
we
feel
it's
also
important
to
continue
to
move
forward
and
and
consider
the
future
and
what
the
future
holds
as
far
as
you
know.
If,
if,
however,
what
percentage
restaurants
closed
and
that's
that's
a
percentage
of
that
300,000
employees
that
need
new
employment
and
if
more
licenses
are
made
available
and.
L
New
places
are
able
to
open
up
that's
more
that's
more
jobs
that
are
available
and
I
I
believe
that,
just
because
a
license
is
made
available
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
it
will
be
taken,
but
it
does
show
that
you
know
I
I
appreciate
this.
This
hearing,
because
I
think
it
is
important
that
we
not
only
focus
on
right
now,
but
also
to
focus
on
the
future
as
well,
and
that
future
is
how
do
we,
you
know
just
keep
moving
forward,
which
is
scary
but
is
is,
is
is
big
for
us.
L
L
L
Will
that
transportation
permit
be
lifted
through
three
months
six
months
a
year
after
we're
able
to
open
back
up,
we
have
a
capacity
of
49,
because
we
have
two
exits.
That
does
not
include
staff,
but
my
guest
is
that,
since
this
new
capacity
will
be
because
we'll
be
corona
based,
not
fire
based,
it
will
include
staff.
So
now
that
cuts
are
we
run
with
three
or
four
staff
members
at
a
time,
but
that
cuts
instead
of
going
from
49
people.
Now
we
can
allow
19
or
20.
L
L
L
Just
just
means
that
these
these
licenses
are
so
much
more
important
sooner
rather
than
later.
There
are
people
now
I
mean
you
know.
If
you
moved
here
in
January,
you
moved
here
in
September,
there
were
due
to
do
the
licenses.
There
were
limited
offerings
for
food
and
beverage,
then,
and
now,
there's
gonna
be
even
less
when
we
open
back
up
and
you're
in
if
you've
just
moved
here
getting
around
getting
food
getting
to
know,
your
community
has
been
hurting
that
in
that
regard
too.
L
L
This
may
be
asked
that
of
ignorance,
but
if
somebody
has,
if
more
licenses
become
available,
means
that
certain
licenses
decrease
in
value
I,
don't
know
if
there's
an
opportunity
for
the
city
to
buy
those
back
and
then
they
become
city-owned
and
be
moved
from
transferable
to
non-transferable,
and
then
they
don't
lose
that
initial
value
that
could
be
speaking
out
of
ignorance,
I,
don't
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
how
all
your
jobs
work.
I
just
know
how
mine
works
and
I.
Thank
you
for
the
time
and
consideration.
A
A
A
All
right,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
so,
but
I
don't
think,
stick
you
and
he
was
from
Beckman,
which
was
he
was
I
understand.
His
testimony
was
submitted
in
writing.
He
submitted
that,
but
it
was
about
the
equity
analysis
of
the
licenses
so
beyond
looking
at
it
at
the
neighborhood
level,
what's
the
city
or
legislation
going
to
do
to
actually
look
at
the
impact
and
and
who
actually
accesses
them?
A
So
if
he
might
join
us
later,
he
had
to
go
to
another
meeting,
but
I
don't
know
if
chief
barrows
had
some
comments,
a
response
to
any
of
the
the
testimony.
Also
any
of
my
city
councillors
I
will
just
go
and
order
that
we
came
and
again
and
just
just
check
in
with
you.
If
you
have
questions
for
the
participants
so
chief
and
then
we're
going
to
go
to
the
councillors.
B
Affirm
the
emotions
we
hear
this
is
so
so
Bob's
emotion,
quiet,
fuse,
emotion
on
this
is
that's
what
we're
hearing
from
the
businesses
we
were
here
from
the
small
businesses.
I
think
Bob's
comment
that
we
would
be
lucky
if
it's
25%,
given
the
percentages
that
we're
seeing
now
I
think
that
that's
right
I
think
we
wouldn't
be
lucky.
If
it's
25%
it
really,
it
really
does
look
dire
right
now.
I
want
I
want
to
talk
specifically
to
the
questions
that
the
quiet
pew
asked.
Sorry,
brother,
I,
don't
know
your
name.
A
B
Thank
you
so
Josh
asked
the
question:
can
we
offer
take
out
afterwards
and
so
Josh
I
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
do
things
like
that
for
a
while
to
help
businesses
get
back
on
their
feet
right,
and
so
the
mayor
has
been
talking
about
he's
already
talking
to
us
about
a
plan
for
recovery.
We're
clearly
focused
on
right
now
and
he's
he's
doing
a
press
conference
right
now
and
announcing
some
things,
but
he
has
us
working
on
the
right
now
and
the
recovery,
and
so
recovery
is
important.
I
can't
I
can't
announce
anything
today.
B
It
would
be
premature,
but
we
hear
you
loud
and
clear
and
we
are
gonna
make
sure
that
there
are
the
kind
of
incentives
in
licensing
and
permitting
that
allows
for
businesses
to
get
back
on
their
feet.
I
think
I
think
that
that's
a
good
good
request
from
you
and
then
the
opportunity
for
the
city
to
buy
licenses
I
think
that
that's
a
good
thought.
Let
me
let's
consider
continue
to
talk
about
I,
think
about
it
and
then
see
what
what
happens
there.
B
E
Yeah
I
just
want
echo
tooth
barrows
those
comments.
The
transportation
permit
I
think
has
been
key
to
the
smaller
businesses
that
I
wanted
to
do.
The
wave
of
it
have
wanted
to
delivery
and
I
your
your
comments
and
questions
really
do
raise
an
important
issue.
How
can
we
help
you
moving
forward
even
after
the
state
of
emergency
is
officially
lifted?
So
we
will
consider
that.
F
You,
madam
chair,
in
obviously
I
appreciate
the
comments
and
I
understand
how
frustrated
folks
are
in
the
passion
that
folks
bring
to
the
table,
advocating
on
behalf
of
restaurants
and
hospitals
and
having
hotels
and
in
our
service
industry.
So
appreciate
that,
and
just
really
I
was
trying
to
go
back
to
chief
barrows.
At
one
point,
there
was
a
comment
about.
F
Sort
of
the
takeout
beer
and
wine
take.
Oh,
so
I
thought
that
was
on
that
early
working
with
our
mayor
and
the
government
I'm.
So
you
weighed
in
as
well
and
making
that
a
reality.
But
I
just
wanna
be
clear
that
if
this
had
passed
say
six
months
ago
or
when
it
started,
you
know
four
or
five
years
ago
that
wouldn't
have
an
immediate
being
able
to
deliver
alcohol
with
food
deliveries.
It
was
going
to
require
either
a
special
act
or
an
executive
order.
F
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
were
clear
and
then
and
when
people
getting
the
wrong
impression
that
had
this
had
these
184
licenses
been
already
online,
that
that
would
have
somehow
expedited
the
owners,
the
restaurant
owners,
the
ability
that
are
transitioning
to
take
out
to
be
able
to
to
serve
be
on
line
with
those
food
orders
that
was
going
to
be
convinced
to
completely
separate
tracked
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
were
clear
on
that.
But
there
was
no
I
heard
your
comments.
B
Yes,
so
yeah,
so
it
that
wouldn't
have
expedited
the
order
at
all,
in
fact
that
order
needed
to
come
from
the
governor.
So
the
comment,
thank
you
for
the
clarification,
the
condos
more,
so
that
the
order
only
addresses
businesses
with
licenses.
So
if
you
have
a
beer,
wine
or
all
alcohol
license,
you
are
able
to
sell
with
food
through
your
takeout
service
or
your
delivery
service.
B
B
F
And
then
so,
then,
thank
thank
you
very
much
for
that
chief
and
then
maybe
the
blob
should
maybe
a
status
report
in
terms
of
what
you're,
seeing
from
your
conversations
with
Boston
proprietors
as
well
as
statewide,
proprietors
in
terms
of
their
viability
moving
forward.
Is
there
a
sort
of
a
conservative
estimate
that
you
can
give
us
at
today's
hearing
as
to
again
based
on
your
experience,
the
percentages
of
businesses
that
you
feel
will
that
I've
currently
closed
they're?
Not
opening
or
or
is
it
too
early
to
say.
K
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
too
early
to
say
and
again
it
depends
on
how
long
we
go.
The
original
closure
was
for
three
weeks.
We
now
know
it's
seven
weeks
and
I
think
you
know
most
of
us
here
question
whether
May
4th
is
going
to
you
know
was
going
to
is
going
to
come
and
go
again
and
they
think
it's
rather
the
likelihood
the
longer
it
goes,
the
more
precipitously
it
falls,
and
you
know
it's
also
bigger
than
just
the
restaurants
and
hotels.
K
It
is
every
business
partner
that
we
do
business
with
these
folks
got.
You
know
they
were.
You
know
if
I
delivered
for
Kosta
produce,
you
know
to
a
restaurant,
I
might
have
been
holding
$5,000
worth
the
bills
from
the
week
before
I
didn't
get
paid
for
that
I
had
to
throw
away
a
bunch
of
produce
that
didn't
get
delivered
as
a
result
of
everything,
and
then
I'm
gonna
be
faced
with
people
that
want
credit
coming
out
of
this,
so
it
is
so
complicated
and
so
far-reaching.
K
F
Based
on
how
business
is
a
wired,
do
you
can
you
assume
whether
or
not
sort
of
the
the
bigger
establishment
versus
the
smaller
something
like
who,
who
potentially
would
would
be
able
to
bounce
back
quicker
and
just
based
on
sort
of
the
business
models?
Is
it
gonna
be
that
smaller
neighborhood
establishment,
or
is
it
gonna
sort
of
be
that
bigger
restaurant
that
might
be
attached
to
the
first
floor
of
a
hotel
at
Centron,
and
my
only
concern
there
was
they
I
think
when
this
is
over
there'll,
be
the
lack
of
a
better
word?
F
I
guess
they'll
be
a
la
lluvia
there'll,
be
a
hangover
if
you
will,
but
when
people
are
allowed
to
kind
of
go
back
to
normal
I
think
the
Lea
they'll
still
be
a
little
hesitant
to
sort
of
@n
that
conference
or
to
to
go
out
to
a
specific
bar
or
restaurant.
That's
just
my
just
my
my
my
sense
on
it
and
that
maybe
push
the
sort
of
the
recovery
a
little
further
on
down
for
for
the
restaurant
and
bar.
C
F
F
Whether
it's
going
to
be
the
bigger
Steakhouse
sort
of
that
or
the
bigger
chain
and
they're
gonna
have
a
better
success
rate
than
say
the
mama
pop
and
smaller
neighborhood
establishment
or
again.
Is
it
too
early
to
the
say,
I,
just
I
kind
of
want
to
get
a
sense,
because
we
need
to
stop
for
for
sort
of
when
we
get
out
of
this,
and
is
the
attention
to
detail
gonna
be
on
the
smaller
neighborhood
establishments?
F
K
I
mean
it's
a
good
question.
The
reality
is
I
think
the
larger
chain,
if
you
would
probably
our
that,
are
funded
and
and
have
better
systems
quite
honestly
to
kind
of
maneuver
through
this
and
again
not
that
they
have
a
plan
for
it,
because
no
one
did,
but
they
have
probably
a
more
solid
footing
and
a
more
solid
ability
to
be
able
to
try
and
maneuver
through
this,
the
independent
operators,
it's
it's
far
more
risky
and
wrought
with
peril.
K
Quite
honestly,
the
industry
is,
you
know,
because
you
and
I
have
had
this
discussion,
there's
not
a
lot
of
barriers
to
entrepreneurship
and
in
our
industry.
It
really
offers
a
lot
of
paths
for
that,
but
it's
a
very
small
margin,
business
and
there's
not
a
lot
in
the
coffers
for
these
folks.
They
live
week
to
week
paycheck
to
paycheck.
They
can
you
know
they
they're
used
to
having
to
migrate
around.
You
know
weekend
with
a
snowstorm
they're
not
used
to
having
to
migrate
around
seven
weeks
closed
minimally.
K
F
A
K
K
I
so
I
think
the
question
was
expanding.
Liquor
licenses
at
this
point
again.
I
think
it
would
be
irresponsible
for
us
to
do
that
is
we've
got
to
have
a
total
focus
on
saving
what's
out
there
and
and
coming
up
with
plans
that
can
assist
these
owner
operators
to
kind
of
get
from
navigate
from
point
A
to
point
B
and
to
say
to
them:
hey
we're
gonna
make
the
road
far
more
difficult
by
putting
more
licenses
right.
K
Next
to
you
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
if
there
were
a
case
where
we're
faced
with
you
know:
food
food
islands
that
were
talked
about
neighborhoods
that
are
totally
underserved,
which
again,
we've
been
positively
behind
that
the
whole
time
that
to
me
is
a
separate,
separate
cause.
That's
you
know
luck.
If
we
can
get
something
that
Spurs
some
economic
development,
you
know
in
the
Matapan,
you
know
we
should
do
that
and
should
find
a
way
to
do
it.
F
F
L
L
D
D
A
G
G
G
You
know,
that's
a
big
loss,
so
my
my
question
is
factoring
that
in
if
we
were
to
go
forward
input
several
hundred
more
licenses
on
the
street
for
those
restaurants
that
are
already
struggling,
that
may
have
to
go
out
of
business.
What
impact
does
that
have
on
the
restaurants
that
had
to
close
with
the
license.
G
G
It's
still
accurate,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
long
term
discussion
to
make
sure
that
we
know
exactly
what
we're
doing
and
provide
the
current
restaurants
current
the
current
bars
providing
them
with
the
support
that
they
need
to
get
backed
up
off
their
feet
because
they
provide
an
exceptional
service
to
our
residents
in
the
employee.
A
lot
of
they
employ
a
lot
of
people,
I
talk
to
them
all
the
time.
G
Dishwashers,
cooks,
bartenders,
those
are
the
people
I
like
to
I
like
to
talk
to
and
then
not
making
a
lot
of
money,
but
then
making
money
enough
money
might
be.
The
second
job
might
be
the
third
job,
but
they're
making
money
to
put
food
on
the
table
for
their
kids
and
that's
what
really
Boston
is
all
about.
K
There's
no
doubt
restauranteurs
restaurants
of
the
fabric
of
every
neighborhood,
certainly
in
the
neighborhood
German,
and
you
and
I
sat
with
Michelle,
Wu
and
and
several
ellicott
other
councillors
down
in
Chinatown.
When
this
first
started
you
know,
doesn't
there's
no
industry
that
as
Phil
as
philanthropic
as
the
restaurant
chef
community,
they
give
back
to
their
neighborhoods
like
there's
no
tomorrow
there
they're
in
good
times
and
bad
people
celebrate
and
they
mourn
in
our
restaurants.
K
They
bring
the
community
together
and,
and
so
that's
why
right
now
I
think
more
than
ever,
we
need
our
cities
and
towns
our
neighbors,
to
rally
around
those
that
hopefully
can
get
through
this
and
help
them
get
to
the
other
side.
The
you
know,
that's
the
point
that
the
other
gentlemen
were
making
it
really
does
you
know
this?
You
know,
there's
no
easy,
straightforward
answer
as
to
who
makes
it
who
does
it?
It
really
depends
on
each
and
every
situation,
but
but
make
no
bones
about
it.
K
The
business
model
for
a
restaurant
in
the
last
four
weeks
changed
dramatically
again.
At
best,
a
restaurant
will
be
able
to
open
between
50
and
65
percent
of
their
seating
capacity
of
what
it
was
before.
During
this
time
we
are
training,
America
or
Massachusetts,
wherever
you
are
that
eating
takeout
is
not
a
bad
option
and
take-out
will
becoming
much
bigger
percentage
of
sales
going
forward
for
two
reasons:
one
America,
you
know
our
residents
of
seeing
hey
I,
can
get
a
pretty
good
meal
and
stay
at
home
and
then
too
there's
a
fear
factor.
K
That's
still
going
to
be
out
there
or
not
wanting
to
wander
out
into
crowds
if
you
would
per
se
the
the
the
takeout
experience
is
far
less
profitable.
It's
a
nice
little
add-on
business
and
when
it's
just
a
little
piece
of
the
business
for
our
shots,
but
it's
not
a
model
that
sustains
itself
at
the
size
of
a
restaurant
is
to
sell
their
food
to
go.
K
So
I'd
like
to
think
everybody
will
rush
right
back
in
when
when,
when
this
is
over,
it's
just
highly
unlikely
everybody
will
rush
out
to
buy
a
hairdryer
or
to
get
a
dishwasher
because
there's
broke
during
this
time
or
those
things
they'll
do,
but
going
into
a
crowded
restaurant
with
a
lot
of
people.
You
don't
know
probably
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time
before
we.
We
feel
comfortable
doing
that.
I.
G
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I.
Don't
have
any
questions
just
wanted
to
offer
my
my
empathy
I
know
how
difficult
this
is
and
how
devastating
it
is
I'm
facing
it
within
my
district,
which
is
a
district
that
already
has
baked
in
inequities
and
so
I
know,
the
challenges
are
real.
I
applaud
the
efforts
of
all,
particularly
those
who
are
restaurant
owners,
who
are
standing
in
this
gap
and
certainly
want
to
thank
the
administration
chief
barrows
for
your
work,
miss
Joyce.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you
to
all
of
my
colleagues
and
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
to
ensure
not
only
that
we
get
through
this
crisis
immediately
before
us,
but
that
we
are
also
tackling
the
existing
inequities
that
has
led
to
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollar
wealth
gap
within
the
city
of
Boston.
So
I
look
forward
to
continuing
that
conversation
and
working
with
all
of
you
on
those
issues.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
may
have
stepped
away
just
going
on
then
to
councillor
sabi
George.
She
may
have
also
stepped
away
and
asked
her
questions
earlier.
Just
checking
okay,
I
had
a
few
questions
and
I
want
to
acknowledge
first
for
a
councillor,
Flynn
and
his
district
especially
has
faced
a
double
burden
in
this
moment
of
the
of
the
virus,
because
he
represents
proudly
and
and
and
with
all
of
his
heart
represents
Chinatown,
and
so
it
isn't
just
a
pandemic
that
closed
their
doors.
There
was
a
lot
of
horrible
horrible
racism
and
horrible.
A
A
lot
of
them
are
small
and
then
having
to
add
this
plus
the
fact
that
who
they
are
was
used
against
them
in
this
moment,
so
their
recovery
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
in
councilor
Flynn's
work
and
highlighting
a
lot
of
that
to
begin
with,
we
signed
on
to
a
resolution
with
regards
to
just
some
general
questions,
I'm
curious
for
terms
of
recovery.
Is
there
a
license
amount
that
the
proprietors
would
feel
comfortable
with
in
terms
of
adding
B
at
all,
I
mean
I'm.
Just
you
know
if
184
is
way
too
much,
is-is-is
francs.
A
Excuse
me,
counselor
Baker,
suggestion
of
let's
just
do
three
per
neighborhood
right
now
in
one
year.
Is
that
that's,
maybe
the
extreme
to
the
other
way,
but
is
there
is
that?
Is
that
what
makes
sense
to
say,
okay?
Well,
we
do
need
maybe
something
for
recovery.
We
do
need
something
to
point
to.
That
said,
that's
on
its
way
is
that
something
that
makes
sense
to
people
at
this
point.
So
that's
my
first
question
and
then
adding
to
this
is
to
the
administration,
I
guess
or
to
to
also
councillor
Baker
Baker.
A
Would
it
make
sense
to
if
you're
open
to
an
amendable,
Home
Rule
petition?
That
means
we're
those
who
are
listening?
We
passed
something
but
understand
it
will
not
be
verbatim
what
we
get
from
the
Statehouse,
we're
giving
them
permission
to
kind
of
play
with
it
at
the
Statehouse.
Would
it
be?
Would
it
would
you
be
okay
with
it
being
amended
and
to
say
that
it
doesn't
begin
until
after
the
state
of
emergency
or
the
declaration
of
a
state
of
emergency
is
ended
as
in
yes,
we
agreed
to
pass
and
expand.
Liquor
licenses
pick
a
number.
A
That
looks
at
not
just
what
licenses,
but
also
as
the
quiet
few
members
noted,
keeping
the
takeout
delivery
and
expanding
that
and
continuing
that
on
and
saying
we.
We
actually
think
that
actually
helps
a
small
business
may
be
starting
get
off
the
ground.
So
we
actually
think
that
that
would
be
helpful
for
the
recovery
package
and
anything
else
at
this.
This
folks
can
their
folks
can
think
of
in
terms
of
an
immediate
recovery
package
for
restaurant
industry.
A
Folks,
I
I've
heard
the
calls,
for
example,
about
unemployment
at
this
level
at
least
Josh,
that
we
would
have
more
control
over
some
of
that
money
for
some
workers
and
looking
at
how
that
might
work.
So
I
know
it's
a
big
thing,
but
I'll
just
separate
it
again.
I
just
acknowledge
the
issues
that
Chinatown
specifically
is
dealing
with.
A
K
K
That
are
already
serviced,
I
think
there
should
only
be
to
your
point,
a
pivot,
to
say
how
do
we
help
restaurants
recover
and
that
should
be
the
sole
focus
and
it
would
be
applauded
it
would
be
backed
by
the
public.
It
would
be
backed
by
the
restaurant
thirds
and
it
would
be
thoughtful
and
well
done
in
an
area
where
there
are
virtually
no
restaurants
to
come
forward
and
say:
hey.
We
actually
have
someone
that
wants
to
do.
A
restaurant
has
some
wherewithal
and
we
want
to
get
it
done.
K
We
will
help
those
people,
though,
there's
a
process
to
go
through.
That's
called
homeroom
petition.
Let
them
get
a
license
that
way,
we'll
back
them.
We
have
said
that
since
day,
one,
but
to
say
that
we
need
more
more
in
West
Roxbury
we've
got
Richard.
Look
the
other
thing.
That's
going
to
happen
here
if
25
to
40%
of
the
restaurants
fail-
and
we
know
that
number
is
probably
very,
very
real
and
again
I
hope
it's
on
a
much
lower
number,
but
that's
going
to
have
a
dramatic
impact
on
the
cost
of
licenses.
K
There's
going
to
be
a
ton
of
them
available
when
supply
goes
up,
the
price
goes
down,
and
so
you
know
look,
let's
just
focus
on
what
what's
in
front
of
us,
which
is
you
have
people
that
and
counselor
counselor
Flynn
just
talked
about
it
that
are
the
fabric
of
the
community
that
employ
our
neighbors.
They
are
families
and
they
had
give
back
to
communities
like
this.
No
tomorrow
now's
the
time
to
be
saying
what
the
heck
can
we
do
to
help
those
people
and
it's
not
putting
a
new
license
next
door.
L
I
live
in
East
Boston,
there's
plenty
of
restaurants
by
me
that
don't
have
a
liquor
license,
and
maybe
you
know
if
they're
serving
sandwiches
and
trying
to
stay
afloat,
but
now
can
get
one
of
these
licenses.
That's
just
been
made
available,
and
now
they
can
serve
a
six-pack
of
beer
with
what
they're
selling
that
only
helps
them.
There's
you
know,
there's
toasted
flats
a
couple
blocks
away
and
there's
dirty
water
that
just
opened
that
has
great
pizza
and
I
know
that
they've
already
started
their
process
for
applying
for
beer
and
wine
license.
L
So
as
things
there
are
newer
business,
we
are
we're
not
even
a
year
old,
but
as
and
and
we
when
we
started,
we
started
with
the
thought
of
okay.
Can
we
do
this?
Can
we
get
off
the
ground
and
get
our
doors
open
without
a
liquor
license,
because
we
weren't
sure
that
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
get
one?
And
if
one,
if
this
had
just
happened,
hey
we
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
open.
L
L
B
B
I,
wanna
I
want
to
echo
what
I
think
I've
heard
from
all
three
four
on
the
on
the
phone
and
Bob's
right,
I
mean
I,
think
the
model
of
restaurants
has
dramatically
changed,
and
you
know
it's
I've
been
struggling
in
my
head
as
we
as
we've
provided
guidance
to
restaurants
on
how
to
start
takeout
and
delivery
businesses
how
to
create
something:
that's
more
profitable
there,
because
you
know
behaviors
are
gonna
change
and
and
for
the
for
the
food
establishments.
That
means
it's
more
online.
That
means
it's
more
delivery.
That's
mean
it.
B
Scott
you
you,
you
made
the
point.
Hopefully
we
we
open
in
by
May
May,
fourth
right
and
I,
think
Bob
had
countered
that
point
earlier,
I
might
I
might
be
siding
with
Bob
I.
Think
there's
a
surge
coming
of
those
who
were
infected
these
next
two
weeks
are
really
important
for
us
to
buckle
down
and
I
applaud
the
folks,
a
quiet
view
for
saying
we
shut
our
doors
to
help
us
to
get
to
the
other
side
right
and
that's
that's
a
powerful
statement
that
other
side
I
think
unfortunate
is
probably
not
made.
B
Fourth,
you
know
I,
think
I
think
if
we
do
well,
though
it's
quicker
than
then
then
it
would
have
been
if
we,
if
we
don't
behave
right
and
do
wrong,
but
so
right
so
I
do
think
the
consulate
to
your
point.
We
would
love
to
support
something
immediately,
that
is
beyond
the
kalai
scences
that
helps
your
restaurants,
continue
to
move
in
a
direction
that
makes
them
viable.
As
we
get
to
the
other
side
of
this
and
clearly
something
amenable
going
to
the
state
works.
B
A
D
B
D
B
A
Is
there
any
way,
Frank
counsel
Baker?
Do
you
have
any
quick
questions
for
the
administration
that
you
need
to
ask?
No
okay,
all
right,
then!
So,
thank
you
so
much
John.
Thank
you
so
much
Kathleen
for
joining
us
for
as
long
as
you
did,
we
really
really
acknowledged
the
amount
of
work
that
you're
doing
right
now
for
everybody.
So
thank
you.
We
really
appreciate
this
Thank.
C
C
It's
it's
not
you're,
not
really
doable,
which
is
what
I
think
we're
trying
to
do
here.
Is
you
just
hold
that
lace
or
look?
Because
we
know
the
legislative
excuse
me
session
ends
in
June
I
believe
so,
if
we
want
to
get
this
passed
for
next
year,
so
they
were
available
as
a
tool
would
need
to
get
this
up
to
the
legislation
quickly,
which
is
why
I
I
wanted
what
men
simplified
legislation
and
also
bring
the
number
way
down.
So
so
they
would
be
there
available,
just
in
case
not
really
a
question
or
anything.
C
A
C
Sure,
I'm
totally
I'm
totally
fine
that
again
I'm
thinking,
I'm
thinking
of
you
know
someone
that
may
be
a
very
small
operation
that
they
own
their
own
building,
because
if
in
my
restaurant
I
lose
five
restaurants,
that's
every
restaurant
in
my
neighborhood.
So
if
there's
someone
there
positioned
and
can
open
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
help
them
so
and
again,
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
if
it's
the
right
thing:
I'm
torn
I'm
torn
but
I
don't
want
someone
that
will
be
ready
in
six
months
in
in
September
or
October.
C
If
they
already
we're
gonna
have
so
few
people
looking
to
open
anything
up
if
someone's
ready,
I
want
to
be
able
to
serve
their
needs,
so
you
know,
but
I
absolutely
see.
Boggs
I
absolutely
see.
Bob's
point.
You
know
we
run
the
risk
of
turning
this
into
the
taxi
industry,
which
taxi
industry.
They
were
trading
at
three
four
hundred
thousand
a
medallion
five
years
ago.
The
restaurants
anywhere
from
300
thousand
to
four
450
I
mean
I,
don't
know
what
the
licenses
were
going
to.
C
A
Another
suggest
or
question
I
have
is,
if
you
remember
that
the
the
Josh
had
mentioned,
or
the
Josh
had
mentioned,
that
there
were.
You
know
one
of
the
biggest
concerns
I've
heard
from
you,
flirty
and
also
bob
is
that
flooding
the
market
and
new
businesses
being
able
to
slip
in
with
literally
a
you
know,
a
tenth
of
for
the
cost
that
other
folks
had
to
to
in
order
to
get
their
businesses
up.
At
the
same
time,
in
East
Boston
I
have
right,
you
know,
I
have
a
little
family
style.
A
Colombian
restaurant
just
tried
for
twelve
years
to
get
a
liquor
license.
So
would
it
make
sense
to
limit
those
three
licenses
and
neighborhood
to
already
existing
restaurants
so
that
you
know
they've
already
kind
of
done
the
thing
they're
there
and
they
just
tried
trying
to
continue
on
and
then
you
know
versus
because
I
think
one
of
the
concerns
as
I
start
up
business
could
come
in
and
just
take
everything
or
compete
unfairly.
I,
don't
know
this
is
me
just
literally
asking.
C
In
in
my
neighborhood
with
we're
going
to
need
we're,
gonna
need
to
need
that
that
new
restaurant
I
think
because
okay,
a
lot
of
them
along
and
we're
gonna
close.
But
but
but
that
being
said,
would
there
be?
Would
there
be
one
of
the
one
of
the
neighborhood
licenses?
They
are
available
when
they're
ready
to
open
true,
so
the.
A
F
They
just
the
other
play
there,
there's
only
a
one-year
moratorium
so,
for
example,
say
I
own
an
establishment
in
the
neighborhood.
That's
you
know
that
may
be
a
little
tired
and
in
need
of
you
know
some
significant
renovations.
What
I
would
do
is
I
would
I
would
sell
the
license
on
the
open
market.
I
would
take
a
year
basically
in
in
refurbish
and
renovate
my
entire
restaurant
and
then
I
just
applied
for
the
free
D.
F
C
F
Light
of
what
we're
dealing
with
now
with
the
the
the
the
effects
in
in
future
impacts
in
koban
19.
Clearly
the
goal
here
and
the
very
beginning
from
day
one
was
the
food
deserts.
So
let's
go
back
to
to
where
it
started.
Let's
go
back
and
identify
where
those
food
deserts
are
in,
take
Frank's,
sort
of
version
and
and
weave
the
two
of
them
together.
There's
no
doubt
about
it.
We
have
food
deserts
in
the
city
of
Boston.
F
We
need
to
address
that
and
and
then
Frank
obviously
has
taken
the
very
thoughtful
step
to
say:
hey
I
recognize
the
new
state
of
affairs
here
and-
and
we
don't
know
where
this
is
going
to
take
us,
and
we
obviously
need
to
partner
and
support
our
existing
businesses,
which
I
think
what
we
heard
some
from
Bob.
We
have
an
existing
portfolio
of
businesses
in
companies
and
employees
that
we
really
need
to
address
those
folks
first,
and
maybe
we
kind
of
partner
of
Frank's
piece
with
the
food
desert
piece.
What
happened
again
for
everyone's
edification.
F
We
started
off
this
discussion
about
food
deserts
and
as
well
intentioned
as
it
was.
What
happened?
Was
everybody
piled
on
city
wide
and
we
started
to
see
licenses
going
into
down
to
the
South
Boston
waterfront
down
to
the
North
End
into
the
downtown?
Quite
frankly,
that's
not
with
the
the
need
for
investment
is
the
need
for
the
investment
is
out
at
UPS
corner
and
Grove
hall
and
Mattapan
Square
all
day
long,
the
industry,
the
folks
that
are
on
the
front
lines,
the
folks
that
are
on
that
I'm.
F
Looking
at
the
screen
here
that
are
actually
doing
the
work
and
the
proprietors
they
support
supporting
the
food
deserts.
They
recognize
that
value
in
doing
that.
Somehow
some
way
we
got
off
track
and
we're
now
talking
about
hundred
eighty-four
licenses
which
basically
will
flood
this
market.
So
if
we
could
maybe
dial
it
back
pump
the
brakes
on
some
of
this
get
back
to
the
food
desert
concept,
there
will
be
buy-in
citywide,
particularly
for
all
of
our
partners,
proprietors
and
neighbors
and
friends,
and
then
kind
of
weave
in
Frank's.
That
provides
some
additional
opportunity.
F
So
we
can
continue
to
move
forward
as
a
city,
but
we
won't
do
something.
That's
catastrophic
for
existing
businesses,
twenty-five
twenty
to
twenty-five
percent
of
which
may
not
be
existing.
You
know
moving
forward
in
as
chief
barrows
recognize
it.
You
know.
Seventy
five
percent
of
the
small
businesses
have
lost
50%
of
the
revenue
and
forty
six
percent
of
the
businesses
are
now
closed,
and
so
huge
hurdles
for
us
to
be
able
to
get
out
from
underneath
them
to
move
forward
and
I.
F
Think
a
very
thoughtful
compromise
of
going
back
to
the
basics
on
the
food
deserts
partnered
up
with
Frank's,
put
something
together:
I
think
that
would
have
the
support
of
folks
in
the
industry.
Small
local
businesses,
as
well
as
the
council
in
the
administration
I,
think
that's
our
best
move
right
now.
It's
just
my
opinion,
but
thank
you.
Mom
Joe
thank.
A
A
K
You
know
pickups
or
deliveries
is
only
allowed
legislatively
until
the
end
of
the
closure.
So
once
restaurants
reopen
that
goes
away,
and
it
was
done
specifically
to
try
and
assist
restaurants
to
get
to
the
other
side.
But
it
was
never
intended
to
go
on
in
infinity.
So
just
so
you're
aware,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
for
everybody
and
I
apologize,
but
I
got
a
choke
knob.
Thank.
A
F
C
And
just
just
thank
you
for
thank
you
for
having
the
hearing
and
and
to
my
colleagues
awesome
in
quiets
you
and
Bob.
Thank
you,
everybody
very,
very
difficult
decision
we
have
here.
We
don't
want
to
hurt
people,
but
we
also
want
to
try
and
help
those
outlying
neighborhoods
I.
You
know
those
those
liquor
license
that
we
talked
that
we
talked
about.
My
neighborhoods
have
have
benefited
greatly.
C
A
You
guys
so
just
to
answer
council
Flaherty's
questions
so
as
we
go
forward
normally
and
the
next
City
Council
hearing
after
a
matter,
I
usually
give
a
report
or
you
could
pull
it
up
for
a
vote
I'm
not
going
to
pull
it
out
for
a
vote
right
now.
There's
just
too
many
good
suggestions
and
amendments
pending
to
warrant
us
immediately
voting
to
release
or
to
send
something
up
to
the
State
House
I
am
mindful
of
the
the
clock
ticking
at
the
Statehouse.
A
As
councillor
Baker
noted,
and
as
councillors,
you
have
our
commitment
to
work
very
hard
to
make
sure
that
if
we
do
send
something
up
to
the
State
House,
it
is
something
that
we're
proud
of
and
it
balances
the
interests
of
those
who
are
concerned
about
the
market.
With
those
who
have
been
waiting
as
I
know,
the
quite
a
few
has
for
a
liquor
license
in
other
places
as
well
before
this
I
mean
this
is
again
a
problem
that
has
only
been
enhanced
because
there
wasn't
enough
liquor
licenses
out
there.
A
There
is
a
balancing
act
that
a
lot
of
us
are
gonna
have
to
do
as
legislators
and
that's
a
fact
I
wanted
to
acknowledge.
So
what
will
very
likely
happen
because
we
have
at
a
request
to
table
one
legislation.
That's
the
mayor's
and
I
will
check
with
my
colleagues
about
that,
and
we
also
have
a
request
to
completely
amend
councilor
Baker's,
to
limit
it
to
one
year
with
three
licenses
per
neighborhood
to
beer
and
wine
and
the
other
one
all
all
alcohol,
counselor
Baker
other
way
around
other
way
around.
A
So
excuse
me
to
alcohol
one
beer
in
line
and
with
the
council
Baker
noted
he
is
willing
to
accept
language.
I
would
say
you
know
after
the
the
crisis
is
over,
but
we
we,
we
are
mindful
of
this
time
and
I
and
I.
Just
don't
want
you
to
think
that
we're
not
thinking
about
how
much
people
desperately
need
these
licenses.
A
At
the
same
time,
we
we
do
not
were
kind
of
blind
on
this
guys
in
terms
of
what's
going
to
happen
in
two
three
four
months
in
terms
of
this,
so
we
are
going
to
continue
this
conversation
into
a
working
session
to
make
sure
that
we
finish
this
and
and
then
I
will
be
checking
in
with
both
the
administration
about
their
version
of
their
the
liquor
license
and
with
councilor
Baker
anything
we
do
about.
This
will
be
public.
You
will
be
notified.
You
can
also
participate
in
the
next
working
session
and
continue
conversation.