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Docket #0461 - Hearing regarding the state of affordable housing and Boston’s Inclusionary Development Policy
A
Good
morning,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
kendra
lara
and
I'm
the
chair
of
the
boston
city
council's
committee
on
housing
and
community
development,
I'm
joined
by
my
colleagues
and
my
co-chair,
counselor
regen
and
counselor
bach,
I'm
also
joined
by
city
council
president
ed
flynn,
and
we're
also
streaming
this
live.
This
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
it's
also
being
live
stream
at
boston.gov
city,
council
city
dash,
council
dash
tv
and
it's
also
being
broadcast
on
xfinity
channel
8
rcn
channel
82
fios
channel
964..
A
We
will
also
be
taking
public
testimony
during
this
hearing.
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you're
interested
in
testifying,
please
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make
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that
your
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is
the
same,
and
your
last
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is
the
same
as
the
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that
you
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register.
A
Please
state
your
name
and
affiliation
resident
and
limit
your
comments
to
two
minutes
to
ensure
that
all
of
our
comments
and
our
public
testimony
can
be
heard.
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket
number
zero,
four
six
one
in
order
regarding
the
state
of
affordable
housing
and
boston's
inclusionary
development
policy.
A
We
are
joined
by
our
first
panel
with
the
administration
sheila
dillon,
who
is
the
housing
chief,
tim
davis,
the
director
for
policy
development
and
research,
michelle
mcafee
housing
policy
manager,
william
onoja,
is
that
correct,
beautiful,
executive
director
of
fair
housing?
And
now
I
have
four
people
on
my
list,
but
there's
five
people
here.
A
Espinoza
is
also
here
with
us.
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
coming.
I
am
incredibly
excited
to
be
here
in
my
first
committee
meeting
chairing
the
housing
and
community
development
committee
on
the
city
council.
The
conversation
that
we're
having
today
is
an
introductory
conversation.
We
want
to
talk
about
where
the
city
is
and
the
work
that
we've
done
so
far.
We
have
a
lot
of
freshman
counselors,
including
myself,
and
so
we're
really
excited,
and
I'm
incredibly
excited
to
hear
about
the
study
that
has
happened.
A
The
outcome,
the
study
that
is
going
to
happen
around
idp,
the
mayor
has
made
a
lot
of
announcements
since
we've
announced
to
this
hearing
on
the
work,
and
so
I
really
want
to
hear
from
the
administration
and
from
all
of
the
community,
organizers
and
people
from
the
community
who
are
here
today
to
ultimately
advocate
for
a
third,
a
third
road
that
doesn't
necessarily
have
us
waiting
until
we
finalize
the
study
and
figure
out.
Where
do
we
go
from
here?
A
C
Thank
you,
council
lara,
and
congratulations
on
chairing
your
first
hearing
here
for
that
housing
committee.
I'm
really
happy
to
be
here
and
to
be
co-sponsoring
this
hearing
on
idp.
We
know
that
we
live
in
a
vastly
unequal
city
that
is
vastly
more
so
unequal
for
our
black
and
brown
residents,
and
we
know
that
high
housing
costs
a
glut
of
luxury
development
and
rising
cost
due
to
the
speculative
land.
C
Sales
has
really
placed
significant
pressure
on
a
lot
of
our
residents,
and
the
federal
and
state
government
has
not
contributed
enough
when
it
comes
to
public
housing
and
the
lack
of
affordable
housing
is
trickling
up
and
having
a
negative
effect.
If
you
want
to
look
at
this
from
a
market
perspective,
the
fact
that
we
can't
provide
housing
for
our
working-class
families
that
actually
hurts
our
city's
competitiveness-
it's
not
just
about
building,
so
that
we
have
money
to
pay
for
property
taxes.
C
If
our
working-class
families
that
hold
up
the
city
can't
afford
to
live
here,
then
we
become
a
less
competitive
city.
Low-Income
households
have
to
forego
spending
on
health
care,
food,
child
care
and
other
necessities,
and,
as
we
know,
a
single
financial
shock
can
send
a
family
into
eviction
on
to
displacement
and
to
homelessness
as
an
attorney's
represented
family
is
facing
eviction.
C
We
know
that
housing
court
is
a
place
that
really
dams
the
poor,
we're
here
to
talk
about
our
current
idp
policy
at
13,
which
is
actually
a
displacement
policy
at
the
13
level,
and
we
need
to
change
that.
But
it's
not
just
about
idp
idp,
is
one
part
of
the
puzzle
in
solving
our
housing
crisis.
We
need
more
tenant
protections
like
rent
control,
right
to
counsel,
more
subsidizing
of
affordable
housing
and
homeownership
opportunities
and
increased
support
for
a
community
land
trust,
and
that's
just
to
start.
C
You
know,
but
this
is
an
incredibly
powerful
moment.
We
have
a
new
mayor,
a
new
new
city
council,
new
ability
to
codify
idp,
and
so
we
must
be
thinking
new.
What
are
the
goals
and,
and
how
do
we
get
there,
and
we
have
to
ensure
that
development
that
is
happening
is
meeting
the
needs
of
the
people,
especially
of
our
black
environment
residents,
who
face
displacement
at
high
numbers,
and
so
I'm
very
much
looking
forward
to
this
conversation,
I
know
that
we
have
folks
here
really
dedicated
to
the
issue
of
affordable
housing.
C
We
need
housing
that
is
truly
affordable.
I
mean
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
ensuring
access
to
fair
housing
for
all.
So
I'm
incredibly
excited
that.
I
know
that
we
have
folks
in
administration
dedicated
on
this
issue,
so
I'm
hoping
that
the
advocates
administration
city
council
can
really
work
together
to
to
solve
this
present
crisis.
So
thank
you
so
much
and
I'm
happy
to
be
here.
Thank
you.
D
Great,
thank
you
so
much
madam
chair,
and
vice
chair
and
co-sponsors.
It's
exciting
to
have
so
many
new
counselors
who
are
passionate
about
housing
and
and
really,
I
think
it's
exciting
to
be
here
today.
I
think
I
want
to
echo
comments
about.
You
know
how
how
much
both
I
think,
opportunity
and
need
there
is
to
change
the
city's
idp
policy
to
more
effectively
harness
the
growth
that
we
talk
about
to
actually
keep
people
in
the
city
and
anchor
more
of
our
low-income
communities
in
place.
D
I'm
really
glad
that
we're
able
to
be
here
today
having
this
conversation
in
the
context
of
the
homeworld
petition
that
passed
a
year
ago
to
to
allow
us
to
actually
codify
the
idp
policy
and
zoning.
I'm
really
excited
about
that,
because
I
think
there's
always
been
a
tension
of
sort
of
like
how
aggressive
we
could
be
on
this
in
terms
of
like
not
having
it
enshrined
in
zoning
and
so
the
opportunity
to
really
like
step
up
and
say
you
know.
D
This
is
what
we
need
and
we
have
the
we
have
the
legitimate
power
from
the
state
government
to
do
this.
I
think
it's
a
real
watershed
moment,
and
so
it
proves
all
of
us
both
on
the
government
side
and
on
the
coalition
side.
I
see
lots
of
folks
from
the
coalition
for
truly
affordable
boston.
It's
great
to
see
you
guys
and
appreciate
all
the
advocacy.
I
think
this
is
like.
We've
all
got
to
get
this
right
right,
because
we
know
that
this
is.
A
Thank
you
so
much
counselor
bach
before
we
move
on.
I
just
want
to
mention
to
everyone.
That's
on
zoom
and
the
folks
who
are
men
who
are
joining
us
here
in
the
chambers
that
we
do
have
spanish
language
interpretation
in
house
and
on
zoom,
so
they're
on
zoom
you've
been
given
the
directions
on
how
to
access
it,
and
we
have
interpretation
here
as
well
to
my
right-hand
side.
If
you
need
spanish
language
interpretation
for
this
hearing,
I
have
been
joined
in
the
chambers
by
my
council
colleague,
councillor
warrell.
A
E
E
It's
been
well
documented
that
boston
has
a
housing,
affordability
crisis.
I
have
heard
from
many
of
my
constituents
in
my
district
about
how
they
could
not
afford
to
live
in
the
city.
They're,
getting
priced
out
of
south
boston,
the
south
and
chinatown,
in
what
working
families
and
seniors
are
being
pushed
out
of
their
communities
and
homes.
E
You
know
it's
not
the
diverse
communities
that
it
used
to
be
in,
for
example,
in
chinatown,
when
someone
increases
the
rents
in
in
chinatown,
usually
it's
a
family,
an
asian
family
that
is,
that
is
asked
to
leave
or
an
asia
asian
couple
seniors,
so
we're
losing
that
diversity
as
well.
I'm
proud
to
represent
a
large
immigrant
population,
and
I
think
there
has
to
be
a
place
in
the
city
of
boston
for
our
immigrant
immigrant
neighbors.
E
Our
city
needs
affordable
housing
for
our
working
families
to
stay
in
the
city,
and
we
have
to
continue
to
work
work
hard
for
on
the
ib
idp
program,
providing
affordable
housing
that
our
community
needs.
But
I
I
just
also
want
to
say
thank
you
to
sheila
dillon
and
her
team
over
the
last
several
years.
Working
working
on
this
issue
so
appreciate
the
the
tremendous
leadership
from
our
city
officials
and
the
housing,
the
various
housing
departments.
E
E
The
federal
government
is
almost
at
times
abandoned
public
housing,
so
it's
important
for
city
and
state
to
work
together
to
upgrade
public
housing,
but
also
to
hopefully
build
more
affordable
housing,
public
housing
as
well.
So,
having
said
that,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
council
lara
for
bringing
this
forward.
Thank
you.
F
But
we
are
still
in
the
housing
crisis
and
idp
is
a
tool
that
we
have
as
a
city
to
produce
affordable
housing
but,
as
we
all
know,
in
those
civic
association
meetings,
when
we
attend
them
and
we're
bringing
affordable
housing,
all
of
our
neighbors
are
constantly
asking
affordable
to
who
our
community
is
being
priced
out
and
also
sized
out.
You
know.
A
lot
of
the
units
that
are
created
are
sometimes
studios
and
one
bedrooms.
F
A
Thank
you,
councilor
warrell.
We
received
regrets
from
councillor
erin
murphy,
councillor,
julia
mejia
and
counselor
liz
braden.
Who
has
asked
that
I
read
her
letter
into
the
record,
so
I
will
do
so
right
now,
dear
chair
lara,
I
regretfully
am
able
to
attend
this
morning's
committee
on
housing
and
community
development
hearing
regarding
the
state
of
affordable
housing
and
boston's
inclusionary
development
policy.
A
I
wish
to
extend
my
congratulations
to
you
for
chairing
your
first
committee
hearing
and
respectfully
request
that
you
read
the
statement
into
the
record:
the
codification
of
inclusionary
development
into
our
zoning
code
and
an
update
of
the
linkage
program
that
captures
the
influx
of
life.
Science
development
are
important
steps.
The
city
must
prioritize,
as
in
the
case,
throughout
boston.
A
There
is
a
clear
mismatch
between
the
city's
idp
and
the
housing
needs
of
austin
and
brighton
residents,
though
the
average
household
income
in
austin
brighton
is
approximately
50
to
60
percent
of
area
median
income,
only
33
idp
units
or
0.03
percent
of
all
idp
units
created
in
austin
brighton
since
2011
have
been
set
at
amis
lower
than
70
recently
approved.
Projects
in
austin
brighton
have
included
levels
of
affordability
that
progress
towards
what
revised
city
affordability
standards
must
make
standard.
A
Finally,
the
city
must
also
examine
the
equitable
allocation
of
affordable
housing
funds
within
the
city,
from
1991
to
2019
development
projects
in
austin
brighton
generated
over
18.5
million
to
the
neighborhood
housing
trust.
However,
only
8
million
in
affordable
housing
funds
came
back
to
our
neighborhood.
A
Looking
ahead
to
the
pipeline
of
development
in
austin
brighton,
over
30
million
linkage
fees
is
expected
to
be
generated
from
our
neighborhood.
My
staff
will
attend
the
hearing
to
take
notes
and
I
will
review
the
committee
report.
As
a
member
of
the
committee,
I
look
forward
to
advancing
this
important
work
together
with
you.
Thank
you
sincerely
liz
braden,
boston
city,
councilor,
district,
9,
austin
brighton.
A
G
I
I
think,
if
it's,
if
it
suits
you
all
I'll,
just
make
a
quick
opening
remark
and
pass
it
over
tim
who's
going
to
outline
in
some
detail
the
process
that
we
plan
on
following
to
update
the
idp
policy
and
then
well,
is
it
okay?
If
you
had
done
it
that
way?
Okay-
and
I
think
michelle
from
the
bpda,
is
here
to
answer
any
questions
as
the
bpda
does
administer
the
program.
G
Thank
you
so
much
great,
thank
you
so
much
so
hello
for
the
record,
hello
committee,
chair
lara
and
co-chair
lejeune
and
all
the
other
city
councillors
here.
My
name
is
sheila
dillon
and
I'm
chief
of
housing
for
the
city
of
boston
and
the
director
of
the
mayor's
office
of
housing,
and
I'm
really
excited
to
be
here.
It
we're
very,
very
excited
about
beginning
this
work,
beginning
this
work
with
you
all
and
updating
this
very
important
policy
and
resource
for
the
city
of
boston
tim
will.
G
G
So
I
also
just
want
to
say
that,
since
the
pro
it
has
been
an
important
program,
we
all
agree
that
it
could
be
improved.
But
since
its
inception
it
has
created
3
600
below
market
deed,
restricted
units,
and
the
funding
that
has
come
from
this
program
has
created
an
additional
2500
deed,
restricted
units,
and
these
are
units
that
have
not
cost
the
city
any
any.
You
know
additional
resources
and
as
much
of
the
housing,
the
market
rate
housing
that
is
built
in
the
city
has
been
built
in
downtown
locations.
G
It
has
been
a
way
that
we've
been
able
to
provide
below
market
housing
deed,
restricted
housing
into
in
a
very,
very
high
cost
neighborhoods.
So
it's
a
meccan,
it's
it's
important
that
it's
creating
units,
but
it's
also
important
that
it
allows
us
to
do
development
and
get
affordable
housing
in
in
neighborhoods
that
we
that
are
well
below
the
city-wide
average
of
affordable
housing
and
before
I
hand
this
over
to
tim,
I
I
do
want
to
say
that
this
is
one
very
important
program,
but
working
with
you
all
it's
it's
been
a
breath
of
fresh
air.
G
We
are
also
reviewing
the
linkage
program
that
counselor
braden
mentioned
that
is
work,
that's
generating
a
lot
of
funding
in
her
neighborhood
we're
seeing
if
we
can
change
that
program
too,
to
yield
more
for
affordable
housing.
So
there's
a
lot
of
exciting
work.
You
know
taking
place
going
on
and
I
just
look
forward
to
working
with
you
all
on
that,
but
back
to
idp,
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
tim
and
he's
going
to
go
through
if
it's,
okay,
really
how
we
are
starting
to
to
start
this
start
this
work
with
you
all.
I
Thank
you
councillors,
I'm
tim
davis,
deputy
director
for
development
policy,
development
and
research
at
the
mayor's
office
of
housing.
I'm
here
to
talk
today
about
the
process.
We
are
undertaking
to
revise
the
inclusionary
development
policy
or
idp
and
set
the
stage
for
codifying
the
policy
into
the
zoning
code.
The
idp
was
created
through
an
executive
order
of
then
mayor
menino
in
2000.
over
time.
There
were
several
revisions
with
the
most
recent
in
december
of
2015.
I
at
its
most
basic.
The
current
idp
requires
that
for
projects
with
10
or
more
units
that
could
require
some
form
of
zoning
relief,
that
13
of
the
units
within
a
project
be
income
restricted
with
income
limits
for
rental
units
at
seventy
percent
of
am
I
of
area
median
income
or
ami
and
for
sale
units
at
eighty
percent
and
a
hundred
percent
of
ami
for
an
average
of
ninety
percent
of
ami
requirements
vary
somewhat
by
area
of
the
city.
I
If
a
developer
creates
off-site
units
or
pays
into
the
idp
fund,
which
is
then
used
by
our
office
to
fund
affordable
housing
projects
across
the
city,
while
other
massachusetts,
towns
and
cities
have
the
power
to
put
an
inclusionary
housing
policy
into
their
zoning
code,
boston
continued
to
operate
under
an
executive
order.
In
january
2021,
the
state
legislature
passed
a
homeworld
petition
that
allows
boston
to
establish
inclusionary
housing
requirements
in
the
zoning
code.
I
The
city's
goals
of
maintaining
racial
and
economic
diversity
in
the
city
and
affirmatively,
furthering
fair
housing
for
members
of
protected
classes
and
the
larger
community
and
financial
and
other
considerations
regarding
the
production
and
cost
of
market
rate,
residential
development
projects
and
income
restricted
housing
units
to
meet
the
requirements
of
this.
Of
these
recommendations,
we
are
undertaking
two
efforts.
First,
through
a
housing
needs
assessment
being
created
by
our
staff,
we
will
outline
current
market
conditions.
Demographics
and
housing
needs
with
a
particular
emphasis
on
racial
and
ethnic
disparities.
I
The
study
will
look
at
a
range
of
options
to
update
the
policy,
including
increasing
the
proportion
of
units
that
are
income
restricted
to
at
least
20
percent,
deepening
affordability,
requirements,
increasing
contribution
fees
to
the
idp
fund
and
other
reforms
so
as
to
better
meet
boston's
housing
needs,
after
request,
releasing
a
request
for
proposals.
We
selected
david,
paul,
rosen
and
associates
or
dra
to
complete
this
study.
I
Dra
is
a
california-based
housing
research
and
consulting
firm
with
a
deep
knowledge
of
inclusionary
housing
policies.
Dra
has
helped
more
than
40
communities,
research
and
develop
inclusionary
housing
programs
in
lieu
fees
and
other
housing
mitigation
measures,
including
the
city
of
cambridge's,
most
recent
study
to
help
shape
the
study.
We
have
also
formed
a
technical
advisory
committee.
The
tac
includes
individuals
with
a
range
of
backgrounds
and
perspectives,
including
advocates
policy
experts
and
for-profit
and
non-profit
developers.
I
We
anticipate
that
the
feasibility
study
will
be
completed
in
late
summer.
The
housing
needs
assessment
will
completed
and
provided
to
the
public.
Well
before
this
date,
so
as
to
help
guide
the
discussion
and
help
the
wu
administration
with
setting
its
housing
goals
more
broadly,
once
the
feasibility
study
is
completed,
moh
and
bpda
staff
will
work
together
to
formulate
a
set
of
recommendations
which
must
first
be
approved
by
the
bpda
board.
I
B
B
B
We
have
most
of
our
funding
comes
from
hud
and
a
lot
of
our
rules
and
regulations
obviously
are
in
keeping
with
what
hud
expects
us
to
do.
One
of
the
things
that
we
are
also
expected
to
do
and
mayu
has
recently
done
with
our
offices.
We
are
responsible
for
implementing
right
now,
the
affh,
which
is
the
family
further
in
fair
housing
across
the
city
of
boston,.
B
Office
officer,
fair
housing
and
equity
is
the
department.
Now
that
will
be
the
monitoring
committee,
the
affh
first
of
all
came
about
in
2015.
This
was
a
regulation
that
came
down
from
the
obama
administration
requiring
all
cities
and
towns.
I
mean
and
municipalities
that
receive
federal
funding
for
housing
to
take
meaningful
action
to
make
sure
that
they
are
taking
steps
to
reverse
the
effects
of
segregation
and
increase
opportunities
and
housing
across
all
cities
in
town.
B
I
can
tell
you
one
thing
that
is
certainly
true
about
the
analysis
of
impediments
is
that
we
could
tell
more
about
your
health
as
a
person
from
your
zip
code
than
any
other
medical
report
that
we
could
read
about.
You
the
reason
I
say
this
is
because
housing
affects
your
access
to
education,
to
employment,
to
even
healthcare.
B
As
the
monitoring
committee
meets,
we
will
be
implementing
these
108
goals
and
also
expanding
on
them
in
areas
where
we
see
fit.
We
have
a
number
of
things
that
we
already
think
that
need
to
happen.
We
have
a
number
of
ideas
that
we
would
automatically
recommend
and
put
forward
as
far
as
things
that
we
believe
that
could
help
the
city
of
boston
deal
with
the
housing
crisis
situation,
that's
happening
across
our
city.
B
H
J
I
just
wanted
to
state
briefly
about
how
interconnected
the
idp
policy
is
with
other,
affordable
housing
policies
such
as
section
8
and
other
rental
vouchers,
and
we're
here
to
talk
about
all
of
these
policies.
I
believe-
and
I
just
want
to
bring
that
to
the
forefront
and
lift
that
up,
because
through
our
work,
we
know
that
discrimination
against
people
with
rental
vouchers,
such
as
section
8,
such
as
people
who
receive
raft
e-wrap.
J
I
just
want
to
highlight
that
there's
also
a
need
to
have
in
the
in
this
conversation
greater
access
for
people
with
vouchers,
regardless
of
their
actual
income,
to
continue
to
access
these
idp
these
idp
units,
because
when
they
go
into
the
actual
private
market,
with
these
units,
they
can
expect
80
86
of
the
time
to
be
denied
a
unit
and
to
have
to
apply
to
dozens,
sometimes
over
100
units
before
they
can
even
get
one
unit
for
them
and
their
families.
So
I'll
keep
that
there.
I
just
wanted
to
lift
that
up
and
thank
you.
B
K
Hello:
everyone,
my
name,
is
michelle
mccarthy,
housing
policy
manager
for
the
boston
planning
and
development
agency.
Thank
you,
chair
lara
council,
louisiana
and
councillor
spock,
for
holding
this
hearing
today
very
excited
to
be
here
to
listen
to
everyone's
input
and
opinions,
as
I
work
with
my
parents
at
the
mayor's
office
of
housing
and
the
office
of
housing
and
equity
to
modernize
and
update
the
idp
policy,
so
I'm
very
excited
to
to
listen
and
learn
today,
thanks
so
much.
Thank
you.
So
much
welcome.
A
With
the
first
round
of
questions
from
the
council,
and
then
I
will
move
to
my
co-sponsors
and
the
rest
of
our
council
colleagues.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
information
that
you
shared
that
you
brought
here
today,
but
the
first
question
that
I
have
is
about
the
need
in
the
city
of
boston.
You
talked
a
little
bit
about
section.
A
A
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
inclusionary
development
policy,
and
so
do
any
of
you
have
a
picture,
partial
or
full
or
otherwise,
of
what
the
need
looks
like
whether
I
you
know-
and
I
think
we
made
this
request-
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
able
to
get
obviously
a
round
number,
no,
not
exact
numbers
of
how
many
people
are
on
waiting
lists.
Currently
how
many
people
are
waiting
for
housing,
how
many
people
are
applying
for
housing?
I
I
We
also
have
thousands
of
households
that
are
housing,
cost
burdened
and
more
specifically,
severely
housing
cost
burdened,
and
we
also
know
that
the
largest
percentage
of
those
households
are
making
incomes
of
less
than
30
and
50
percent
of
area
median
income.
So
we
do
recognize
that,
in
order
to
meet
the
needs
of
those
that
are
most
in
need,
we
need
to
look
at
the
income
guidelines
for
the
program.
Yes,
thank
you.
A
A
I
I
It
did
not
show
necessarily
that
we
could
go
to
20
of
the
units,
which
is
what
we're
hoping
that
we
can
find
in
this
new
study,
and
it
did
show
that
there
was
some
room
to
maneuver
in
terms
of
reducing
the
average
ami
for
the
units
as
well.
But
again
it
did
not
show
us
what
we're
hoping
we're
going
to
find
with
a
new
study
that
would
give
us
more
room
to
to
increase
the
policy
even
further
than
that.
G
If
I
could
add
tim
to
one,
I
I'm
doing
this
from
memory,
but
one
thing
it
also
showed
was
that
we
could
drop
the
threshold.
You
know
making
it
so
smaller
smaller
developments,
but
also
have
to
participate
in
the
program.
So
there
were,
I
think
the
numbers
did
show
that
their
their
policy
could
have
been
changed
and
improved.
It
was
decided,
others
decided
not
to
change
the
policy,
but
we're
we're
hoping
now
with
the
new
administration
new
city
council
that
that
that
that
won't
be
the
case
again.
Okay,.
I
Yeah
I'll
speak
to
that
we
looked
at
you
know
five
units,
seven
units
we've.
It
showed
pretty
clear
that
we
could
go
to
dropping
the
threshold
to
five
units.
There
was
certainly
probably
in
some
of
our
most
outer
neighborhoods,
where
rents
and
sales
prices
are
the
lowest.
Some
of
those
projects
might
be
no
longer
feasible,
but
by
and
large
it
seemed
like
it
was.
It
was
very
feasible
in
part
because
those
smaller
projects
also
are
using
cheaper
construction
techniques,
which
makes
it
more
possible
for
those
projects
to
be
included.
I
The
biggest
challenge
is
also
is
always
going
to
be.
How
do
you
implement
it,
because,
when
you're
dealing
with
larger
developers,
you
kind
of
see
the
same
people
over
and
over
again
with
a
small
developer?
You
know
it's.
How
do
you
work
with
them?
Do
you
include
the
unit
in
the
building
itself,
or
do
you
allow
them
to
cash
out
which,
obviously,
from
a
compliance
perspective,
is
easier
but
doesn't
always
meet
the
needs
or
the
goals
of
the
neighborhood.
A
H
A
So
for
the
new
study,
you
said
that
you
were
hoping
that
the
the
previous
study
didn't
show
that
we
could
go
up
to
20,
but
you
were
hoping
that
this
new
study
would.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
are
some
changes
that
you're
anticipating
for
this
new
study
that
might
should
give
us
the
data
that
we
need.
I
Well,
I
mean
the
I
think
the
the
data
will
tell
us
what
is
going
on
in
the
market
and
what
we
can
do.
So
we
are
obviously
hopeful,
but
we're
not
sure
that
there's
going
to
be
any
significant
changes.
There
have
been
increases
in
construction
costs
because
in
both
in
labor
and
in
materials,
so
we're
not
exactly
sure.
A
I
Yeah,
I
would
say
the
generally
the
theory
behind
an
inclusionary
development
policy.
Is
that
you
that
there
is
the
right.
The
reason
why
we
have
room
to
put
affordable
housing
into
a
property
is
because
there
is
some
flexibility
in
the
cost
that
the
owner
that
the
developer
faces,
that
flexibility
is
largely
in
the
land
cost.
I
So
what
happens
is
that
if
you
have
a
higher
inclusion
development
policy,
then
it
can
be
reflected
in
a
lower
land
cost.
So
it's
the
it's
the
land
owner
that
kind
of
bears
the
brunt
of
not
getting
as
much
profit,
but,
however,
there's
obviously
a
point
where
there's
no
land
cost,
so
you
can
only
push
it
so
far
until
well.
I
You
can't
do
it
because
you
have
construction
costs
to
other
development
costs,
etc,
but
also
that
land
cost
is
competing
with
other
uses,
whether
it's
the
existing
use
or
with
the
commercial
use
so
also
the
land
cost
would
not
go
to
zero,
but
it
is
it's.
Basically,
that's
your
dampener
is
whether
or
not
you
can
get
reduce
the
land
cost
efficiently,
so
that
you
can
then
include
the
affordable
housing.
Okay,.
A
So
I
mean
we've
seen
and
I'm
sure
that
you're
aware
of
this,
that
there
are
developers
who
have
been
you
know
for
lack
for
lack
of
a
better
term
extracting
value
land
value
and
doubling
sometimes
doubling
their
profits
for
the
land
valuation.
So
I'm
sure
that
you're
aware
of
some
of
these
instances.
What
is
your,
what
is
like
your
take?
Your
assessment
of
that
is
there
anything
that
the
city
can
do.
Is
there
anything
that
you
are
like?
How
do
we
kind
of
mitigate
that?
A
Because,
ultimately,
if
we're
looking
at
land
cost
valuation-
and
that
is
impacting
what
we
believe
is
possible
when
it
comes
to
the
inclusionary
development
policy
and
then
folks
are
doubling
their
profit,
because
they're
selling
off
ultimately
extracting
value
from
the
community
process
after
they
get
something
approved
then
was.
Can
we
say
that
the
land
valuation
is
happening
in
an
effective
manner
and
that
we
are
making
the
decision
based
on
the
correct
information
in
terms
of
how
much
we're
valuing
the
land
well.
G
You
know
boston
at
large,
and
you
know
that
we're
looking
for
projects
that
are
good
for
public
transportation
that
are
energy.
You
know
neutral
that
are
well
designed
that
are
really
providing
benefit
to
to
our
larger
communities.
So
it's
about
extracting
more
for
affordable
housing,
but
just
getting
to
through
planning-
and
you
know,
I'm
really
pleased
about
the
new
appointment
at
the
bpda
that
we're
going
to
start
planning
in
a
much
more
comprehensive
way.
A
C
It's
administration
for
all
of
your
answers
this
morning.
I
also
want
to
thank
you,
especially
for
the
great
pronunciation
of
my
last
name,
which
is
often
trusted
beloved,
but
y'all
did
stellar
so
congrats.
One
of
my
questions
is,
in
terms
of
you,
know,
who's
able.
Who
are
we
able
to
get
into
the
door
for
these
idp
units,
and
I
want
to
ask
if
we've
thought
about
changing
the
guidelines
so
that
we
are
able
to
assess
people
based
on
their
net
income
versus
gross
income.
C
We
know
that
for
poor
working
class
families
that
marginal
difference
between
your
gross
and
your
net
makes
a
heck
of
a
big
difference
in
terms
of
what
you're
able
to
do
and
what
you're
able
to
afford
right,
and
we
think
about
folks
with
disabilities
and
the
things
that
get
removed
from
their
checks
based
on
their
gross
pay
and
how
much
of
a
boon
it
would
be
for
folks
if
we
were
using
their
net
pay
to
qualify.
So
if
you
could
speak
to
to
that,
and
and
if
we're
considering
that
as
part
of
the
idp
process,.
G
I
I'll
certainly
defer
to
michelle
on
the
net
versus
gross,
but
part
of
the
analysis
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
together
is
looking
at
what
income
levels
can
you
know?
Can
we
achieve
through
this
program?
We
have
heard
for
a
very
long
period
of
time.
We
hear
two
things
about
the
income
levels,
one
it
we
are.
They
are
not
serving
boston's
population
the
idp
program
and
that
we
need
to
get
in.
We
need
to
get
units
available
for
lower
income
populations,
and
we
are
in
agreement
with
that.
G
K
The
thing
I
do
worry
about
from
an
administrative
point
of
view,
just
given
my
background
in
a
large
number
of
housing
programs,
especially
for
lower
income
people
of
informally
homeless,
people
is
going
so
far
afield
from
the
way
that
the
program
is
administered
so
that
there's
confusion
in
the
constituency
about
how
about
about
being
eligible
for
one
type
of
program
versus
another,
not
an
insurmountable
problem.
But
I
think
one
that
we
need
to
be
thoughtful
about
in
administration,
since
so
many
of
the
federally
federally
funded
and
state
funded
programs
do
use
that
ami.
K
C
So
what
are
the
challenges
that
you
see
in
marketing
the
idp
units
and
especially
as
it
relates
to
fair
housing
and
also
a
bunch?
A
number
of
the
questions
I
were
asked
were
about
the
demographics
about
who
are
the
folks
who
are
occupying
idp
units.
What
does
that
demographic?
Look
like
and
related
question
is
I'll,
just
start
there
and
then,
and
then
we
can.
K
L
C
K
I
think
that
a
lot
of
the
applicants
what
we've
seen
recently
is
the
la
you
know
it's
driven
by
the
unit
sizes.
We
have
a
lot
of
two
bedroom
units,
so
we've
we've
got
a
lot
of
two-person
applicants
and
I
think,
just
in
terms
of
the
demographics
itself,
I
don't
even
think
at
this
point.
I
would
feel
comfortable
giving
a
range
of
of
those
numbers
just
because
I
don't
have
them
in
front
of
me
in
terms
of
the
ability
to
capture
lower
incomes
through
marketing.
K
I
do
think
that's
an
important
question
that
we're
grappling
with,
especially
with
the
administration
of
the
affirmatively,
furthering
fair
housing,
zoning
amendments
and
looking
at
the
marketing
procedures
that
are
in
place
as
though,
as
that
process
unfolds,
it
is
relatively
new.
It's
only
been
in
place
for
a
little
bit.
Over
a
year,
not
only
two
projects
have
been
gone
through
the
affh
process.
As
you
know,
the
development
timeline
is
very
long
and
then
the
construction
timeline
we
haven't
yet
seen
any
projects
come
through
that
have
affh
marketing
interventions
applied.
K
Yet
I
do
hope
in
the
next
year
or
two
we
will
be
seeing
that.
But
I
think
that
is
an
opportunity,
especially
working
with
mr
anua's
office
as
part
of
the
boston
interagency,
fair
housing
development
committee,
as
well
as
mr
davis
to
to
think
about
how
we,
as
a
housing
team
for
the
city
of
boston,
can
thoughtfully
think
about
marketing
and
housing.
Access
in
ways
that
take
into
account
not
just
idp
units
but
all
units
in
the
city
of
boston.
G
The
the
tech
executive
that
lives
down
the
hall
so
really
making
sure
that
they're
not
applying
unfair
standards
and
their
evaluations,
and
I
think
we
really
need
to
memorialize
that
and
we're
sort
of
we
are
starting
to
put
those
in
the
marketing
plans.
People
can't
be,
you
know,
have
unreasonable
expectations,
but
I
think
we
really
need
to
do
a
better
job
on
that
going
forward
and.
C
B
We
are
in
the
process
due
to
the
108
goals
that
have
been
listed
in
the
affh
or
the
affirmatively,
furthering
careful
housing
document
of
bringing
that
back
to
the
office
of
fair
housing
and
equity,
the
administration's
in
the
process
of
working
that
out
to
bring
return
that
back.
So
we
have
a
number
of
things
that
we
think
we
were
going
to
def.
B
So
at
the
time
of
occupancy,
you
could
have
affordable
tenants
moving
in
at
the
same
time
as
market
rate,
tenants,
oftentimes
or
currently
what
tends
to
happen
will
go
through
one
process
and
then
because
they're
still
getting
their
affirmative
marketing
plans
together.
You
know,
there's
been
a
bit
of
a
delay
in
getting
affordable
tenants
in
so
that's
something
we
will
also
be
looking
at.
B
Another
thing
that
we
intend
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we
are
consistently
looking
at
or
there's
a
requirement
that,
on
january
31st
of
every
year,
that
developers
or
all
idp
units
submit
to
us
for
all
new
development
what
their
waiting
list
looks
like,
and
so
what
that
will
why?
The
reason
for
that
is
so
we
will
be
able
to
reconcile
at
any
given
time.
B
After
the
lottery
process,
who
is
now
in
line
and
also
to
monitor,
if,
when
someone
moves
out
of
one
of
the
say,
affordable
units
that
to
make
sure
that
they're
being
replaced
with
folks
who
are
affordable
unit
tenants
in
the
stand-
and
this
is
to
give
greater
oversight
over
that
process
and
also
by
monitoring
the
waiting
list,
you
can
make
sure
that
qualified
applicants
are
not
skipped
over.
For
any
reason
you
know.
B
So
these
are
some
of
the
steps
that
we're
going
to
be
taking
as
we
bring
affirmative
marketing
back
and
implementing
them
as
requirements.
So
we
are
holding
the
feet
of
developers
and
housing
providers
to
the
fire
and
making
sure
that
they
are
in
total
keeping
with
the
affirmative
marketing
plan.
The
guidelines
that
have
been
specified
in
it.
C
Thank
you.
I
just
have
one
last
question
as
an
allied
counselor,
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
about
is
like
what
neighborhoods
aren't
shouldering
their
burden
of
providing
affordable
housing.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
I'd
be
curious
is
that
we
know
like.
Is
there
a
preponderance
of
idp
units
in
specific
neighborhoods?
What
neighborhoods
have
the
lowest
idp
units?
Do?
We
know
anything
about
that
and
then
you
know
relatedly
the
opportunity.
C
We
have
the
least
amount
of
idp
units
if
we
know
that
I'd
love
to
learn
more
about
that
and
and
into
a
discussion
about
the
trade-offs
when
it
comes
to
you
know
allowing
for
off-site
develop.
You
know,
contribution,
cashing
out
and
the
trade-offs
that
we
experience
as
a
city
when
we
allow
that
to
happen,
especially
when
you
know
it's
it's
great
to
have
the
goal
be
standardization
across
the
board,
but
we
know
that
there's
these
individual
idp
discussions
per
development
all
of
the
time,
and
so
what
does
that?
What
do
those
trade-offs?
K
K
The
north
end
with
less
than
point
two
percent
roslindale
with
less
than
five
than
one
percent
and
then
west
roxbury,
with
a
little
bit
over
one
percent,
so
that
would
be
the
neighborhoods
with
the
lowest
and
I'll
provide
the
complete
chart.
That
lists
all
the
neighborhoods
of
idp
contribution
to
to
your
offices.
K
K
For
on-site
and
off-site
so
these
numbers
are
all
off-site
and
on-site
as
opposed
to
projects
units
that
are
funded
with
the
contribution
of
idp
funds,
which
I
can
run
down
that
as
well.
So
we
have
highest
contributions
being
the
downtown
area,
and
next
size
is
the
southwestern
waterfront.
After
that
we
have
the
south
end.
G
If
I,
if
I
could
just
add
one
thing
too,
we
do
have
we
do
track
every
year
where
all
of
our
affordable
housing
is
by
neighborhood,
and
I
think
we
should
we'll
get
that
over
to
the
city
council.
I
think
it's
you
know
the
city-wide
average
is
19.1
and
some
neighborhoods,
as
we
know
intuitively,
are
very
much
much
higher
than
that
and
some
are
much
lower
than
that.
C
G
Yeah
deed,
restricted,
public
housing.
You
know
cdc
built
housing,
all
of
that,
both
by
homeownership
and
rental
housing.
Great
and
I-
and
it's
really
it's
I
I
refer
to
it
a
lot.
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
try
it's
hard
to
build,
affordable
housing,
beacon
hill.
Although
councillor
bach
and
I've
been
to
meetings
and
we're
trying,
but
it
you
know,
we
really
do
need
to
continue
to
make
an
effort
to
make
sure
that
you
know
neighborhoods
are
income
income
diverse!
K
I
In
fact,
in
2014,
when
mayor
walsh
took
office,
they
fully
implemented
a
policy
that
was
already
in
existence
but
had
not
been
fully
implemented
around
a
cash
outs
or
for
condominiums,
which
the
cash
out
requirements
for
condominiums,
for
especially
for
downtown
luxury
buildings,
is
actually
rather
extreme.
It's
great
for
us.
I
M
D
Great,
oh
thanks!
So
much
wait
for
this
to
there
we
go.
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
just
on
this
last
point,
because
I
do
think
it
it
does.
I
think
we
should
just
like
really
acknowledge
the
complexity
and
the
need
to
have
a
kind
of
like
overall
policy
on
this
because,
for
instance,
like
I
was
saying
those
numbers-
and
I
was
thinking
before
before
I
was
a
counselor
and
before
actually
I
worked
for
the
vha.
D
The
upshot
of
that
is
that
both
in
bay
village,
where
I
grew
up
and
in
fenway,
which
I
now
represent,
we
didn't
get
on-site
units
in
those
neighborhoods
and
I
think
that
you
know
from
exactly
counselor
legion's
point
about
how
do
you?
How
do
you
integrate
the
city,
a
very
housing,
segregated
city?
It's
like
an
accumulation
of
decisions
like
that
is
going
to
continue
to
re-entrench
the
the
like
decisions
across
the
board
and
yet
also.
D
That's
there
for
those
eventualities,
so
that
we
know
we
can
like
swing
in,
but
we
can
still
have
a
much
more
consistent
program
of
making
sure
that
we
don't
lose
units
in
especially
the
sort
of
like
low
rate
of
affordable
unit
neighborhoods
right
in
these
kind
of
emergency
situations.
I
think
it's.
I
think
it's
something
that
we
have
to
just
have
a
really
like
coherent,
thoughtful
policy
on,
but
I
don't
want
to
dismiss
the
complexity
of
the
kind
of
like
battlefield
decisions
that
get
made
around
that
issue.
D
So
I
just
wanted
to
want
to
enter
that
comment
and
and
then
the
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
really
underscore
because
we're
talking
today
about
tools
and
how
to
use
the
idp
tool
better.
I
really
do
think
there's
an
enormous
opportunity
to
use
the
affh
zoning
amendment
in
in
partnership
with
this
idp
conversation
and
really
think
about.
Where
are
the
places
of
some
of
the
things
we're
talking
about
here
that
we
can
really
use
that
to
drive
additional
progress
in
new
development,
in
addition
to
whatever
ramped
up
idp
policy?
D
We
have
so
an
example
would
be-
and
we'll
sort
of
alluded
to
this,
but
I
think
it's
probably
helpful
for
folks
watching
at
home
and
everything
basically
like
now
we're
asking
people
when
they
propose
housing
projects
in
the
city.
What
are
you
doing
to
help
us
affirmatively,
further
fair
housing
to
push
back
against
segregation
to
create
inclusive
communities,
and
we
actually
have
a
whole
category
of
potential
interventions.
D
People
can
sign
up
for
it
that
have
to
do
with
marketing,
so
not
just
what
you
build,
but
how
you're
making
it
accessible
to
people
and
fair
housing
marketing.
Just
like
you
know,
you're
not
discriminating.
Now
is
truly
the
bare
minimum
I
mean,
sadly,
as
was
alluded
to
by
andrew,
it
is
often
not
achieved,
but
the
idea
with
afh
is
not
that
you
commit
not
to
discriminate,
but
that
you
actually
go
above
and
beyond,
and
in
last
session
of
the
council,
we
had
the
bha
come
and
talk
about
the
practical
barriers
to
their
voucher
holders.
D
We
have
some
very,
very
low
income
folks
on
the
voucher
program
and
so
the
potential
to
to
not
just
cannibalize
idp
resource
but
actually
say.
Look.
We
made
a
change
where
vouchers
are
pretty
damn
lucrative.
These
days
like,
we
would
like
you
to
host
some
of
them
and
maybe,
in
some
cases,
that's
a
question
of
of
more
strategically
project,
basing
vouchers
and
projects
around
the
city.
But
it
could
also
be
this
sort
of
informal
thing
of
like.
D
Sometimes
in
these
conversations
about
ami-
and
I
think
it'd
be
really
useful
to
have
from
you
all
as
part
of
this
report-
and
maybe
I
don't
know
if
this
was
part
of
the
demographics
info
request,
but
for
people
to
really
understand
what
the
incomes
are
of
folks
using
idp
units.
Because
my
sense
is,
we
have
a
considerable
number
of
units
that,
as
andrew
alluded
to
have
a
double
subsidy
where
we've
got
the
idp
unit
and
then
the
voucher
holder
is
accessing
them.
D
And
that,
and
so
in
that
sense,
the
good
news
is
that
our
idp
units
are
housing,
more
very
low
income.
People
than
people
think,
because
it's
the
70
level
but
they're
actually
down
at
30
20
10
00.,
but
the
flip
side
of
that
is
that
we're
all
talking
about
it
like
we
have
two
housing
opportunities.
We
have
x
number
of
voucher
holders
and
we
have
x
number
of
idp
units,
but
actually
a
certain
number
of
these
were
only
keeping
folks
by
the
combination.
D
I
think
we
have
to
like
understand
that
a
little
bit
better
and
then
say
wait.
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
actually
increase
the
total
number
of
affordable
units
in
the
sense
of
being
accessed
by
low-income
bostonians
by
actually
having
some
of
the
market
units
have
better
access
for
voucher
holders.
So
it's
not
like
our
voucher
holders
can
only
access
the
idp
units.
D
And
what
I
mean
by
that
is,
like
you
know,
if
we
make
units,
if
we
say
hey
we're
going
to
lower
the
ami
to
30
ami
and,
let's
say,
there's
no
vouchers
involved,
like
one
30
ami
required
unit,
because
the
developer
charges
a
much
lower
rent
may
sort
of
cost
the
same
in
terms
of
land
value
as
two
70
percent
ones,
and
I
think
like
as
this
whole
community
or
like.
If
we
require
unit
sizes
to
be
larger
again,
it's
more
square
footage
et
cetera.
D
So
I
think
like
because
what
I
hear
of
everyone
saying
is
that
we
need
several
different
tranches.
There's,
like
you
heard
already
today,
there's
folks
who
are
getting
who
are
technically
coming
in
over
income
because
they're
because
they're,
but
they
have
like
disability
and
when
you
take,
when
you
did
it
out
of
taxes,
they'd
qualify
right.
D
But
those
are
up
on
this
end
and
then
we've
got
low-income
folks
who,
because
we
don't
have
a
safety
net
attached
to
the
idp
program,
unless
they've
got
a
voucher,
it's
not
serving
them
right
and
it
feels
like
the
conversation
with
all
the
advocate
community,
like
we
want
to
drive
towards
really
knowing
that
we're
serving
like
a
few
of
these
tranches
better.
But
we,
but
I
think
we
all
need
to
understand
like
what's
the
kind
of
like
cost
of
the
different
toggles.
D
So
I
just
think
whatever
we
can,
whatever
we
can
have
to
kind
of
inform
informed
discussion
and
balancing
on
that
would
be
really
helpful.
And-
and
so
my
question
I
recognize
these
were
mostly
comments-
is-
is
just
what
is
the
timeline
of
the
linkage
study
going
to
track
with
the
timeline
on
the
idp
study
or
not,
and
the
reason
I'm
asking.
D
A
higher
lab
linkage
rate
is
really
important
to
because
there's
just
so
much
more
excess
profit
under
the
curve
for
lab
right
now
than
anything
else.
So
I
find
myself
wondering
like
gee,
it's
only
kind
of
a
separate
conversation
and
in
the
sense
of
like
I
think
we
probably
need
linkage
to
also
be
playing
into
this
policy
of
how
we
get
more
housing
in
the
end.
So
that's
that's
a
question
just
on
timing.
I
I'm
I'm
actually
very
pleased
you
brought
that
question
up.
We
are
on
a.
We
are
tracking
them
together.
Okay,
I
think
that's,
I
think
I
agree
with
you.
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
look
at
both
simultaneously
and
not
just
from
the
perspective
of
idp
can
get
us
so
much
and
linkage
can
go
so
much
so
we
are
on
parallel
tracks.
In
fact,
we
have
started
the
meetings
with
the
consultants,
and
I
did.
G
No,
I
was
just
going
to
say
I
I
agree.
You
raised
a
really
good
point
if
it
becomes
much
more
profitable
for
every
it
seems
like
every
developer.
Right
now
in
the
city
wants
to
do
lab
and
people
aren't
building
housing.
Then
then
we
have
we've.
We've
created
a
situation
that
we
don't
want
either
so.
G
I
I
do
like
your
your
idea
or
or
your
comment
about
this
small
area.
Fmrs
are
real,
they
really
are
lucrative
and
can
we
get
developers
to
recognize
those
those
those
in
those
rent
rates
and
really
encourage
more
people
with
mobile
vouchers
to
to
apply
to
them?
And
I
do
I'm
trying
to
hear
how
to
operationalize
that
or
how
do
you
monitor
that
so
we'd
love
to
think
think
about
that
more.
A
K
Oh
just
on
the
on
the
small
area,
fmr
issue,
I
will
say
that
just
to
tell
the
kind
of
early
anecdotal
influences
that
affh
has
had
these
conversations,
we've
started
to
have
with
developers
in
terms
of
using
that
small
area
fmr
to
income
restrict
at
a
higher
income
at
a
higher
ami
in
order
to
have
a
requirement
for
intervention
holders,
so
in
terms
of
educating
and
having
first
initial
conversations
with
developers
to
help
them
wrap
their
heads
around
that,
but
that
those
have
been
happening
as
a
result
of
ash,
which
is
great.
Thank
you.
A
So
much
I
appreciate
it.
There
are
folks
who
are
joining
us
on
zoom,
as
you
may
know,
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
here
today
and
the
reason
why
we're
here
today
is
because
of
decades
of
advocacy
by
people
in
the
city
of
boston
who
are
fighting
for
their
right
to
remain
in
their
homes
and
in
their
city.
A
A
But
there
are
people
who
are
waiting
to
testify.
We
have
two
more
panels,
so
we
definitely
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
being
conscious
of
our
time.
So
I
I
have
a
few
questions
and
for
context.
I
myself-
and
I
share
this
on
the
city
council
floor
just
to
one
make
sure
that
I'm
being
how
do
I
say
this
transparent
about
my
own
personal
impact
on
this,
is
that
big
guy?
A
You
know
who
are
making
moderate
or
really
low,
really
low
income
folks
in
the
city
of
boston.
So
the
question
that
I
have
ultimately
is:
what
is
it
going
to
take
to
change
to
start
redefining
affordability
for
the
city
of
boston
right?
We
can't
change
how
the
area
median
income
is
calculated,
but
we
can
change
our
city's
definition
of
affordable
housing.
So
what
is
it
going
to
take
to
make
that
change?
A
G
So
we
are
as
part
of
this
process
working
with
the
the
technical
advisory
and
the
consultants
and
looking
at
the
housing
need
data
which
we
will
get
to
you
as
soon
as
it's
done
and
we'll
be
done
soon.
One
thing
we're
going
to
look
at
is:
can
we
can
we
lower
the
amis,
or
can
we
have
more
of
a
range
of
amis
in
this
program
that
are
that
will
serve
boston
residents
better?
So
it's
you
know.
Some
people
want
us
to
use
bmi
or
ami.
G
Even
if
it's
ami
we
can
drop,
you
know
we
can
drop,
we
can
drop
the
rents,
so
we
are
going
to
look
at
that
and
we're
taking
that
very
very
seriously.
We
recognize
that
there's
been
a
for
a
long
time.
This
program
hasn't
served
everyone,
it
served
a
you
know,
segment
of
our
population,
but
it
hasn't
served
everyone,
so
we
are
going
to
be
looking
at
that.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
more
to
say
about
about
that.
Can.
A
G
Right
now,
who
makes
the
decision,
of
course,
so
the
part
of
the
feasibility
study
will
be
looking
at.
Can
we
get
additional
units?
You
know
out
of
private
market
developments,
and
can
these
units
serve
lower
income
populations,
so
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
both
and
the
consultants
will
be
looking
at.
You
know
what's
feasible
within
market
rate
development
and
then
what
else
can
we
do
within
market
rate
development
to
really
to
get
at
some
of
those
issues?
G
I
think
we're
all
very
anxious
to
serve
a
wider
range
of
the
population
and
serve
more
people
through
the
program
so
that
the
consultant
will
be
looking
at
that
the
technical
advisory,
I'm
sure
you'll
be
holding
hearings
to
look
at
that
too.
So
we
will.
We
will
all
be
looking
at
these
numbers
together
and
sort
of
and
seeing
you
know
what
we
can
do
through
this
program.
I
So
that
will
be
part
of
the
recommendations
that
we'll
be
thinking
of
the
consultant
will
be
making
recommendations
but
they'll
be
making
kind
of
recommendations
that
are
purely
based
on
feasibility,
and
then
we
will
look
at
those
recommendations
and
say:
okay:
where
do
we
think
we
need
to
go
like
they
will
say
you
can
get?
You
know
just
a
random
number
15
percent
and
an
average
of
50
mi
or
you
can
get
18
percent
of
an
average
of
70
percent
milli
and
then
that's
a
policy
decision.
A
I
G
G
I
don't
I
don't
want
to
drag
it
out.
I
don't
I
want
to
do
it
quickly.
I
want
to
do
it
well,
but
I
think
we
do
need
to
look
at
the
real
estate
market
and
feasibility
right
now
and
then
use
that
information
to
set
policy
so
to.
I
think
I
think
it's
going
to
be
important
for
us
to
look
at
the
data
anew,
because
since
that
time
we've
had
a
pandemic,
the
real
estate
market
has
shifted
et
cetera,
so
I
think
it
we
I
I
would
you
know.
A
A
What
is
changing
from
the
previous
process?
What
were
maybe
some
things
that
you
learned
from
the
other
process?
How
is
community
engagement
going
to
look
like
and
are
we
going
to
have
people
involved
from
the
beginning
and
not
just
giving
feedback
after
the
process
just
share
generally
what
year?
Well
this.
I
I
We
heard
in
that
process,
and
some
of
these
were
ideas
that
I
had
brought
forth
as
well,
based
on
what
we've
seen
in
other
cities.
Is
that
not
only
lowering
the
threshold
for
units
but
also
looking
at
square
footage
instead
of
just
a
unit
count
so
that
we
can
get
a
more
diverse
set
of
units,
including
more
family
sized
units
doing
an
average
ami
rather
than
just
one
single
ami?
So
we
can
serve
a
broader
set
of
constituents
and
households.
G
And
I
just
add
to
that
I
mean
we
are
going
to
have
citywide
listening
sessions
scheduled
you
know,
so
we
really
can
hear
from
the
general
public
check-ins
with
with
the
technical
advisory
every
step
of
the
way,
and
we
do
need
to
come
before
the
city
council
before
we
can
go
to
the
zoning
and
zoning
commission
for
any
changes.
So
I
anticipate
a
lot
of
public
dialogue
at
that
at
that
juncture
too.
So
I
I
really
you
know
I
believe
in
this.
B
B
Let
us
be
clear
that
you
know
the
mayor's
executive
order
requires
that
all
city
departments,
especially
those
that
deal
with
housing,
now
take
meaningful
steps
and
actions
to
make
sure
that
we
are
doing
everything
humanly
possible
to
make
sure
that
there
is
equitable
housing
for
all
residents
of
the
city
of
boston.
And
your
question
is
actually
a
really
intuitive
question,
because
I
think
that
you
know
we've
talked
a
lot
about
ami.
B
That's
something
that
you
know
as
far
as
our
lens
is
concerned,
something
that
we
would
definitely
recommend,
and
I
would
also
invite
you,
as
counselors
and
your
colleagues
to
look
at
the
108
goals
that
we
will
be
implementing,
because
it's
real.
A
lot
of
your
questions
are
really
already
baked
into
this,
which
is
a
beautiful
thing
as
far
as
we're
concerned.
But
ami
is
one
certainly
right
and
having
a
boston.
Ami,
I
think,
is
something
that
would
certainly
address
this
problem.
B
We,
too
are
equally
interested
in
the
study
because
it's
really
going
to
guide
a
lot
of
the
work
and
inform
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we
do
as
the
department
that
is
overseeing
the
monitoring
committee.
For
the
implementation,
with
the
cac
for
firmly
furthering
for
housing,
that's
one.
The
second
thing
I
would
also
comment
about
that
has
been
brought
up,
is
the
fund.
B
Excuse
me
in
other
neighborhoods,
across
the
city,
making
sure
we
have
better
affirmative
marketing
plans
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
also
with
the
fun
as
complicated
as
it
could
be.
It's
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
we
in
in
some
cases
it
provides
a
situation
where
you
have
a
nimby
right,
not
in
my
backyard,
where
build
it
off
here.
B
You
know:
here's
money
build
it
there,
not
here,
and
one
of
the
things
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
is
streamlining
and
seeing
how
we
could
have
better
policies
that
address
that
right,
because
we
again,
we
know
that
it's
it's
a
complicated
thing,
but,
on
the
same
token,
building
affordable
housing
in
neighborhoods
that
were
originally
designed
for
it,
and
by
original
I
mean
if
you're
building
a
project
in
beacon
hill
and
that
money
goes
towards
building.
You
know,
affordable
units
in
beacon
hill,
then
now
we're
talking
about
or
using.
B
This
is
one
of
the
tools
that
you
know
addresses
the
segregationist
issue.
You
know
and
making
sure
that
no
matter
who
you
are
in
the
city
of
boston,
you
can
live
wherever
you
want
to
live
in
whatever
neighborhood
you
want
to
live
in
and
there
is
adequate
housing
for
you
to
do
so.
Another
thing
that
I
think
I
would
add
to
the
conversation
is
looking
also
at
our
how
we
deal
with
you
know.
Small
projects
currently
right
now,
idp's
are
affected
by
a
lot
by
our
article
80
process
right.
B
You
know,
so
I
think
that,
just
in
the
spirit
of
really
looking
at
this
on
a
very
macro
level
and
in
the
spirit
of
making
sure
that
we
are
really
keeping
with
the
mayor's
executive
order,
you
know
these
are
a
lot
of
things.
We're
going
to
certainly
be
looking
at,
and
certainly
as
the
monitoring
committee
moves
forward,
we
would
love
to
interface
with
the
council
as
need
be
and
any
questions
you
may
have
regarding
the
108
goals
that
have
already
been
listed.
A
Of
desegregation
my
question
around
off-site
and
the
option
of
doing
off-site
housing,
I
think
that
when
folks
are
building
what
usually
tend
to
be
luxury
housing,
they
get
the
option
to
put
the
poor
people
somewhere
else,
or
you
know
near
close
by,
but
ultimately
not
in
the
same
place
where
everybody
else
is
living,
and
I
am
curious
about
the
ability
right,
the
policy
around
building
off-site
housing.
If
we
are
moving
towards
more
integration,
why
allow
people
to
put
housing
another
place?
How
is
that
an
option?
Is
there
an
option
to
change
that?
I
Yeah
yeah,
I
would
say
one
thing
that
happened
with
the
2015
revision
is
that
we
increased
the
off-site
requirements
and
again
for
some
developers
that
really
shifted
their
math
to
keeping
the
units
on
site.
Yes,
so
we
do
not
have
as
many
off-site
developments
as
we
used
to
we've
had
a
few
that
have
been
really
important,
such
as
the
the
saving
of
newcastle
saranac
or
a
seaport
development
funding,
an
entire
elderly
building
next
to
a
bha
development
in
south
boston.
I
Those
are
kind
of
kind
of
real
wins,
but
we
do
recognize
the
importance
of
keeping
units
on
site
and
that's
one
reason
why
we
think
through
the
affh
zoning
process.
That's
another
mechanism
where
we're
basically
telling
developers
that
we
want
to
keep
the
units
on
site
and
also
kind
of
more
informally.
I
I've
seen
a
couple
situations
where
developers
were
kind
of
saying
we
might
do
off-site,
we
might
do
off-site,
and
then
I
would
be
like
and
they're
thinking
about
like
a
cdc's
development
that
they're
looking
at
and
we're
like.
No
we'll
fund
the
cdc's
development.
You
keep
your
units
on
site.
So
that's
that's!
Obviously,
some
of
the
behind
the
scenes
that
some
people
never
see,
and
so
there
are-
and
we
have
a
couple
developers
who
are
constantly
looking
for
off-site
to
use
off
sites
and
they've,
been
very
thoroughly
disappointed.
The
last
few
years.
G
I
mean
tim's
right
if
we
can
sometimes,
if
something's
in
the
same
neighborhood
and
we
can
if
it's
a
senior
building
and
service
delivery,
is
going
to
be
more
efficient
and
versus
having
a
handful
of
units
scattered
scattered
throughout
a
rental
building.
Sometimes
it
makes
sense,
but
that's
a
case-by-case
analysis.
G
A
A
The
reason
why
I
think
we're
here
is
that
in
the
midst
of
us
doing
all
of
this
work
behind
the
scenes
and
having
all
the
feasibility
studies
and
figuring
out
what
we
can
do
and
what
we
can't
do,
there's
a
lot
of
development,
that's
being
approved
in
the
city
of
boston
and
if
we're
looking
at
a
timeline
of
the
end
of
the
summer,
probably
to
kind
of
get
the
feasibility
study
and
then
review
it
and
make
policy
decisions
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
There's
a
lot
that
can
happen
in
six
to
nine
months.
A
What
can
we
do
between
now
and
then
I?
I
am
hard-pressed
to
believe
that
there
is
nothing
that
can
happen
between
while
we're
doing
this
between
now
and
then,
particularly
as
we're
coming
out
of
a
pandemic
economic
downturn.
People
are
looking
for
housing
like
they're,
and
so
I'm
curious
in
terms
of
the
inclusionary
development
policy
in
terms
of
ami,
in
terms
of
making
ensuring
that
there's
more
affordable
housing
at
actual,
affordable
prices
than
the
people
of
the
city
of
boston.
A
What
you
know
mayor
wu
has
already
stated
that
she
was
interested
in
kind
of
finding
different
ways
to
do,
and
so
what
is
the
administration
considering
what
is
being
considered?
What
is
feasible?
What
will
what
have
you
already
committed
to
that
to
happen
between
now
and
when
this
is
all
finished,.
H
G
I
think
we
are
moving.
We
too
feel
a
sense
of
urgency
every
day,
and
so
one
of
the
first
things
that
the
the
new
mayor
had
really
instructed
us
is
get
these
studies
done
and
let's
see
if
we
can
revise
these
policies
and
in
part,
because
the
good
advocacy,
some
of
which
are
here
today
whether
we
make
additional
interim
changes
through
executive
order.
We
can
certainly
take
that
back.
We
can
look
at
it.
G
I
Oh,
they
left
it
on
for
me,
but
I
would.
I
would
actually
add
that
we
do
have
opportunities
now
through
the
affha
zoning
process.
That
committee
is
asking
for
additional
affordability
for
developers.
We
are
asking
for
units
at
different
amis,
so
there
is
at
least
that
mechanism
is
already
in
place
to
help
us
move
forward
because
it
to
kind
of
address
issues
of
racial
inequity.
C
It
just
makes
it
easier
for
for
a
lot
of
folks
and
we
don't
need
you
know.
We
of
course
will
need
to
engage
in
these
discussions
in
a
routine
manner,
but
it
will
make
it
less.
So
if
we're
able
to
automate
a
lot
of
it,
our
numbers
and
then
my
question
is
really
about
profit
and
whether
we
ask
developers
to
share
profit
margin
on
these
properties
with
us.
C
Because,
as
I
said,
you
know,
a
lot
of
these
developers,
especially
based
on
land
values,
are
making
wind
falls
and
then
they'll
turn
to
us
and
say
I
can't
build
on
15
idp.
I
can't
build
on
20
percent
and
they
tell
us
at
the
front
end
at
the
end
back
end,
you
hear
the
ridiculous
profit
margin
that
some
of
these
folks
are
making,
and
so
why
don't
we?
I
C
G
We
underwrite
really
really
carefully,
but
most
of
our
projects
are
affordable
housing
where
even
subsidized
land
and
they're
coming
in
and
asking
us
for
resources,
so
we're
doing
very,
very
careful
underwriting
and
we
do
limit
fee
and
overhead
soft
costs
we're
evaluating
hard
costs
based
on
the
market.
So
we
are
very
careful
about
underwriting
if
something
is
being
sold
for
market
rate
development.
I
However,
if
they
were
asking
to
do
off-site
units
or
asking
to
do
payout,
if
we
would
often
ask
to
look
at
their
numbers,
then
because
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
were
doing
it
for
feasibility,
not
just
for
they
were
making
that
option,
because
they
could.
So
that's
where
we
held
some
discretion
to
look
at
the
books
was
if
there
was
an
offsite
deal
or
a
payout.
I
K
It
does
remain
the
case
that
we
do
look
for
additional
scrutiny
when
someone's
proposing
offside
or
a
payout,
because
we
do
it
is
pegged
on
feasibility,
because
we
do,
as
tim
noted
earlier,
have
an
internal
policy
where
we
we
prefer
strongly
prefer
on-site
development
as
opposed
to
offsite
or
a
payout
option,
so
that
that
has
in
turn
then
limited.
Our
our
kind
of
scrutiny
of
the
books
and
those
profit
margins.
C
I
just
I
thank
you.
I
just
encourage
you,
as
the
study
goes
on,
that
we
actually
do
a
lot
better
job
at
looking
at
those
hard
numbers
and
it's
my
understanding
that
bpda
is
hiring
consultants
that
are
going
to
do
a
better
job
of
that,
but
I
just
think
that
we
lose
out
as
a
city
and
we
aid
displacement.
We
we
are
helping
to
further
displacement
when
we're
not.
C
A
So
much
to
the
members
of
the
administration
for
coming
and
answering
our
questions.
My
office
and
the
housing
committee
really
look
forward
to
receiving
some
of
your
responses,
which
I
know
you
said
that
you
would
make
available
to
our
questions
later
on.
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you.
My
hope
is
to
have
individual
meetings
with
with
each
of
you
in
the
future,
but
I'm
really
really
grateful
that
you
came
here
and
answered
so
many
of
our
questions
on
such
a
short
notice.
I
really
appreciate
it.
Take
care.
A
A
O
Thank
you.
Thank
you
councillor
lara.
Thank
you
all
the
counselors
for
having
me
today.
So
my
name
is
karen
chen.
I
am
the
executive
director
with
the
chinese
progressive
association
and
the
chinese.
Progressive
association
is
part
of
right
to
the
city,
boston
and
the
coalition
for
truly
affordable
boston.
I'm
here
to
talk
about
one
of
the
points
in
idp
on
the
lowering
ami.
O
O
O
You
know,
chinatown's
housing
stock
has
doubled,
since
you
know
the
2000s,
but
around
2010
chinatown
was
at
a
tipping
point,
meaning
that
chinatown
used
to
be
predominantly
low-income
housing,
but
around
2010
because
of
influx
of
luxury
development
market
rate
housing
is
almost
is
catching
up,
is
almost
equal,
but
then
the
privately
housing
the
rent
was
rising
drastically.
We've
seen
you
know,
20
percent
25
percent
and
in
some
cases,
an
ownership
turnover
where
rent
was
doubling.
O
So
we
really
appreciate
you
know
the
city
in
the
city
council,
since
2015,
you
know
make
a
strong
statement
saying
that
we
want
chinatown
to
continue
to
be
chinatown,
and
I
think
we
have
seen
that
in
the
new
developments
there
are,
at
least
you
know,
40
percent
low-income
housing
in
chinatown.
I
think
that
change.
You
know
a
little
bit,
you
know
in
chinatown,
but
what
we
are
still
seeing.
That's
a
challenge
to
the
community
is
that
some
of
the
housing
that
we
talk
about
proudly.
O
You
know
hong
luck,
house
right,
oxford
ping
on.
You
know
the
two
power
developments
on
boylston
street.
You
know
they
are
really.
You
know,
developments
that
the
community
fought
for
affordable
housing,
and
that
is
better
than
most
of
the
developments
in
around
the
city,
but
we
are
still
seeing
residents
whose
application
for
affordable
housing
was
rejected
because
a
lot
of
them
are
around
50
area,
median
income,
and
actually
some
of
the
rejection
was
because
their
income
was
too
low
to
get
into
it.
O
So
so
you
know
our
as
the
coalition
you
know.
Our
hope
is
that
for
the
city
to
have
a
lower
average
area,
median
income
at
40
percent,
as
we
recognize
that
this
is
a
program
for
low
income
and
middle
income
housing,
but
we
have
to
make
sure
that
the
really
you
know
most
vulnerable
residents
have
the
opportunities
to
get
some
of
the
housing
as
well,
and
I
also
want
to
say
that
you
know
why
would
be
we
put
it
on
the
idp?
O
It's
because
this
is
an
important
policy
to
to
have
a
benchmark.
You
know
on
for
the
community
to
organize
around
and
to
make
sure
that
you
know
as
new
development
that
are
happening.
You
know
this
is
the
standard.
You
know
it's
kind
of
like
you
know
minimum
wage
right,
but
this
is
like
the
minimum.
O
You
know
requirement
for
affordable
housing
for
the
city
so,
and
I
know
that,
in
order
for
this
to
be
really
fully
successful,
you
know
we
have
to
also
look
into
other
policies
that
will
produce
more
funding
and
very
new
for
affordable
housing.
You
know,
and
also
you
know,
policy
to
protect
tenants,
because
we
can't
build
enough
to
address.
You
know
all
of
the
city's.
O
N
N
However,
five
minutes-
okay,
the
most
important
thing
to
me,
is
that
I
haven't
heard
much
at
all
about
moderate
income
folks,
especially
the
moderate
income,
folks
that,
as
counselor
bach
mentioned,
fall
off
sort
of
a
ledge.
At
some
point,
when
you
get
to
moderate
income,
there
is
a
huge
gap
between
being
able
to
pay
moderate
income,
rent
and
being
able
to
pay
market.
N
I
can
give
myself
as
an
example
I
have
been
in
one
form
or
another
of
subsidized
housing
for
almost
20
years.
I
started
out
in
several
shelters.
I
was
in
50
60
percent.
I
got
two
different
section:
eight
vouchers,
after
waiting
more
than
seven
years
and
I've
been
in
moderate
income
for
the
past
four
years,
and
I
just
hear
very
little
about
people
in
that
bracket.
I
respect
that
there
is
a
lot
of
attention
given
to
folks
who
are
on
waitlist.
N
That
was
me
at
one
point
or
people
who
are
in
shelters
and
in
need
of
housing.
That
is
also
obviously
a
need,
but
you
know
my
my
moderate
income
rent,
for
example
in
the
fenway,
is
around
three
thousand
dollars,
and
the
market
rent
in
my
same
unit
is
over
nine
thousand
and
there's
just
a
negative
incentive
to
work.
N
But
I
haven't
heard
anything
about
having
the
ami
extend
to
bridge
that
gap
between
between,
let's,
say,
120
and
whatever
you
could
actually
would
actually
need
to
be
able
to
pay
market
rate
and
not
rent
burden
yourself,
which
at
some
point,
if
you
lose
your
job
or
have
some
bad
time,
there's
no
safety
net
and
you're
going
to
end
right
back
up
in
a
shelter
or
in
a
waiting
list
for
lower
income
housing.
So
I
think
it's
a
vicious
cycle
unless
all
levels
are
addressed.
N
For
you
know,
let's
say
you
had
man,
you
know
legal
bills
that
had
to
be
paid.
Let's
say
you
had
medical
bills
that
needed
to
be
paid
or
some
sort
of
student
loan
situation,
and
unfortunately,
there's
no
allotment
for
that.
So
I
don't
want
to
go
over
my
time,
but
those
were
some
of
the
major
points
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
So
much
kate
for
for
coming
and
sharing
your
experience
as
somebody
who
is
a
measly
three
thousand
dollars
away
from
that
ledge
and
very
much
on
my
way
to
having
to
pay
50
of
my
income
on
rent.
If
I'm
unable
to
keep
my
unit,
I
really
much
empathize
and
am
committed
to
making
sure
that
we're
doing
that
work
to
meet
the
middle.
When
it
comes
to
the
idp
policy,
I
am
going
to
pass
it
on
to
our
third
panelist
marquisha
moore,
who
is
here
with
us
in
person.
You
have
the
floor.
Q
Hi,
I
have
some
points
here,
but
then
I
also
heard
some
things
that
I
kind
of
wanted
to
respond
to.
So
I'm
going
to
try
to
get
through
these
points
and
hope
you
understand
them
before
I
respond
to
some
things
I
just
wanted.
We
talked
a
lot
about
amis
and
how
they
need
to
be
lowered.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
there
do.
We
have
a
slide
up
there
that
they
can
see.
Thank.
Q
Q
The
70
leaves
out
the
majority
of
dorchester
residents.
I
live
in
dorchester,
so
I'm
going
to
say
dorchester
a
lot,
but
we
know
it's
all
across
boston,
so
when
they're
using
those
incomes
to
say
that
this
is
boston's
ami
and
average
media
area
they're,
leaving
out
a
lot
of
residents,
so
changing
how
they
calculate
incomes
in
our
neighborhoods
can
help
a
lot
of
people.
Q
You
know
help
lower
the
ami
and
help
a
lot
of
people
stay
in
their
housing.
So
that's
one
point
I
wanted
to
make.
I
like,
I
said:
I
live
in
dorchester,
there's
a
project
growing
up
dorchester
bay
city,
which
we've
been
a
part
of
an
organization
called
dorchester.
Now
for
sale
and
we've
been,
like,
you
know,
fighting
this
project,
which
has
been
just
a
struggle
because
it
seemed
like
you
know
the
the
the
developer
and
the
project
manager
were
like
literally
on
the
same
side.
Q
You
know,
and
the
ppda
is
supposed
to
work
for
boston
in
the
betterment
of
boston,
so
fighting
a
project
that
has
1
000
they're,
going
to
be
bringing
in
1
900,
970
housing
units
and
only
in
15
of
that
they're
going
to
make
affordable
at
60
ami.
This
is
like
right
there
in
dorchester
on
public
land,
on
public
land,
so
and
they're
gonna,
15
ami
is
supposed
to
be
like
their
version
of
affh
and
affirmatively.
Further
in
fair
housing
is
not
doing
like
the
basics.
Q
Q
Why
don't
we
just
put
money
in
a
staff
somewhere
and
build
off
site
like
like
in
your
mind,
it's
okay
for
these
meetings
are
so
racist
like
in
your
mind,
it's
okay
for
you
to
suggest
segregation
like
that's
what
that
is:
let's
build
on
site
luxury
housing
for
us
and
then
put
some
money
in
a
part
somewhere,
so
we
can
send
those
people
we
don't
want
here
somewhere
else.
This
is
happening
right
in
dorchester,
where
I
live,
and
so
we
already
talked
about
60
ami
is
not
affordable
to
most
people
in
dorchester.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Until
today,
there's
been
35
955
units
period
built
so
just
compare
35
955
to
3600,
and
you
can
see
the
difference
in
market
rate
and
luxury
units
being
built
and
what
they
you
know,
what
are
supposed
to
be
affordable
units
that
are
really
not
being
built.
Also,
we
had
this
thing
that
we
cannot
increase.
Q
We're
not
talking
about
taking
money
out
of
your
pockets,
we're
talking
about
what
the
difference
between
making
a
profit
that
looks
like
this
and
making
a
profit
looks
like
this,
but
it's
all
a
profit.
It's
all
a
profit-based
business,
we're
not
taking
anything
from
anybody,
and
the
last
point
that
I
want
to
make
is
that
we
were.
They
were
saying,
like
you
know
where
we
were,
the
study
is
going
to
show
us:
can
we
lower
rents
to
serve
boston
residents,
but,
as
we've
seen
now,
we
have
made
them
too
high
to
serve
boston
residents.
Q
C
I
just
have
you
know,
I
just
have
one
question
is
karen
karen?
Are
you
still
here?
Yes
yeah?
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for,
for
their
testimony
is
very
insightful,
but
you
you
made
a
comment
about
how
you
we've
been
able
to
get
40
affordable
in
chinatown.
I
just
had
a
question
about
whether
that
was
specifically
about
idp
or
just
general,
like
affordable
housing
generally.
O
It's
it's
the
percentage
of
affordable
housing,
but
within
that
you
know,
a
small
number
of
them
are
at
30
area,
median
income.
That's
really
where
a
lot
of
the
residents
can
afford,
and
you
know
the
the
the
average
income
in
chinatown,
even
with
all
of
the
luxury
development
that
went
up,
is
about
25
000
a
year,
and
this
is
you
know
why
we
feel
like
lowering
the
ami.
You
know,
and
I
think
that
we
we
talked
about
kind
of
like
middle
middle
income.
O
Right
I
mean
I
think,
for
us,
you
know
the
middle
income.
You
know
the
city
standard,
I
mean
or
the
ami
you're
talking
about
six
figures,
but
I
think
in
our
community
it's
kind
of
more
like
if
you
make
50
000,
you
know
55,
you
know
with
two
like
you
know,
working
adults,
maybe
one
half
time
one.
You
know
full
time.
That's
like
middle
income
for
us.
D
D
The
more
we're
going
to
like
then
counter
these
cliff
effect
challenges
for
folks
if
they
have
the,
if
they
have
the
opportunity
to
get
like
they
start
at
a
low
income,
and
then
they
get
a
job
that
brings
them
higher
and
I
just
think
like,
as
was
alluded
to
the
fact
that
the
chasm
is
so
big
right
now.
I
just
think
we're
it's
super
important
that
we
have
this
program.
O
Can
I
just
counselors,
can
I
add
that
you
know
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
feel,
like
you
know,
we're
fighting
so
hard
for
the
standards
to
actually
kind
of
like
do
something
for
the
lower?
You
know
the
most
vulnerable.
You
know,
people
in
the
in
in
in
boston
is
because,
when
someone
is
taking
out
of
their
neighborhood,
the
cost
going
to
come
at
us,
but
in
different
ways.
You
know
when
you
take
out
of
you
know
your
community.
All
these
social
support
is
going
to
become
a
cost.
O
A
Karen,
I
really
appreciate
you
and
thank
you
to
all
the
panelists
who
came
by
to
illustrate
their
experience
and
what
they're,
hoping
that
the
city
council
and
the
mayor's
office
of
the
administration
can
do
in
between
there.
I
think
that
markeisha
specifically
outlined
what's
happening
at
dorchest
with
dorchester
bay
city.
I
think
councilor
braden
has
spoken
very
passionately
about
the
development.
That's
happening
in
austin
brighton,
that's
being
led
by
harvard,
and
so
there
are
a
lot
of
big
things
that
are
happening
in
the
city
and
so
extending
the
same
question.
A
R
A
L
Thank
you
so
much
shamika
you
have
the
floor
say
good
morning.
My
name
is
moreno.
I
am
with
boston
new
coalition
as
a
board
member,
I'm
also
with
parents
helping
parents
out
of
newton
and
I'm
also
with
csf.
I
just
want
to
start
with
my
personal
story.
I
do
live
in
the
idp
unit.
I
am
a
full-time
college
student
and
a
full-time
employee
and
a
mom
of
five,
and
I
heard
one
of
the
counselors.
I
think
the
admins
speak
about
having
to
turn
down
promotions
because
you
don't
want
to
use
your
community.
L
So
that's
something
I
fear,
because
I've
faced
housing
discrepancies
twice
once
in
quincy
and
when
I
wanted
to
move
back
to
the
city,
I'm
a
native
of
I
grew
up
in
boston.
So
as
to
the
slides.
We
believe
the
city
should
change
the
ami
levels
now
not
wait
for
the
study,
and
I
want
to
piggyback
off
what
markeisha
said.
You
know
it
benefits
us
now
to
have
that
versus
lady,
because
I'm
at
risk
of
having
to
move
out
of
boston
should
I
make
more
than
eighty
thousand
dollars
a
year.
L
I'm
gonna
have
to
move,
but
if
they're
looking
at
my
neck
versus
my
votes
versus
my
neck,
I
have
five
children,
two
are
in
college
and
three
younger
ones.
I
have
to
pay
for
child
care,
so
it's
like.
Do
I
keep
my
unit
or
do
I
move
out
of
boston
and
then
have
to
commute
back
for
my
children
who
go
to
children's
hospital
who
are
used
to
being
in
the
community?
Maybe
they
get
on
a
bus
and
go
there
transportation.
Those
things
all
come
into
play
as
far
as
the
slides
go.
L
So
if
you
want
to
get
one
of
those
housing
lotteries
and
you
do
actually
get
it
and
your
income
goes
a
little
bit
over,
like
you
said
that
that
measly
3000
now
you
can't
afford
that
unit
and
you're
uprooted.
Again,
you
have
to
move
and
that's
middle
class
and
lower
class,
the
lowest
class.
So
now
we're
both
in
that
bracket.
It
used
to
be
separate,
but
really
it's
one
bracket.
Now
it's
either
you're
rich
or
you're,
poor,
there's
no
in
between
anymore.
The
lowering
the
thresholds
from
10
units
would
be
something
we
would
want.
L
Now
we
wouldn't
want
to
wait
for
that.
We
believe
the
city
should
change
the
threshold
to
five
units
and
now
and
now
wait
until
the
study
is
done.
Eighty
percent
of
idp
units
are
either
two
three
and
four
bedrooms:
permanent
affordability.
We
we
need
that.
I
personally
have
a
six
of
us
and
we're
in
a
three
bedroom,
because
that's
all
I
can
afford
so
with
that
being
said
next
slide,
please
we
wanted
to
address
that,
like
that
the
idp
must
meet.
The
community
need
include
more
two
and
three
and
four
bedrooms.
L
Boston
is
a
melting
pot
of
families.
It's
not
individuals.
Even
the
elderly
are
doubling
up
in
apartments
with
sisters,
brothers,
whatever
have
you
grandparents
raising
grandchildren,
those
are
families,
it's
still
a
family,
no
matter
how
you
look
at
it.
The
63
percent
of
bomb,
the
idp
units
have
been
studios
and
one
bedrooms,
that's
not
including
people
that
need
housing
right
now.
It's
mostly
families,
65
66
of
the
moderate
income,
are
rent
burden,
households
and
their
amis
go
between
31
and
63.
L
I
mean
in
roxbury
the
the
highest
income
right
there,
right
now
to
me,
is
like
40
40
000.
If
that,
if
not
35,
and
that's
with
two
people
working
in
the
household
and
most
of
the
families
are
single
mothers
or
grandparents
raising
grandchildren,
they
have
two
or
more
people.
48
of
low
income
are
rent
burden.
Households
zero
to
30
emi
had
two
or
more
people.
That
being
said,
I
just
feel
like
the
city
is
not
the
city.
I
grew
up
in.
L
Those
are
things
that
you
shouldn't
have
to
juggle,
whether
I'm
going
to
eat
or
whether
I'm
going
to
house
my
children,
whether
we're
going
to
have
transportation
or
we're
going
to
have
to
walk
3
to
4
miles
to
school.
That's
not
something
you
should
have
to
worry
about,
that's
just
your
rights
as
a
human
being,
so
you
know
that's
what
I
wanted
to
say.
S
S
So
I
want
to
thank
you
cheer,
laura
and
your
colleagues,
council,
bach
and
lejeune
for
convening
this
hearing.
I
don't
want
to
be
redundant
because
my
colleagues
have
captured
much
of
the
things
that
I
was
going
to
say
and
the
fact
is
the
questions
that
the
three
of
you
proposed
to
the
administration.
S
The
the
slide
is
really
not
that
important
at
this
point,
but
since
it
is
up
there,
just
one
draw
attention
to
the
data
for
the
fairmount
corridor,
where
action
for
equity
does
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
its
work,
and
this
is
data
from
I
think
two
years
ago.
But
you
can
see
here.
33
of
the
households
make
less
than
25
000
a
year.
S
The
number
for
the
fairmount
corridor
for
the
ami
would
be
sufficient
for
the
folks
who
are
there
now
and
at
some
point.
Hopefully,
the
city
council
will
have
a
hearing
on
the
special
protection
center
right
council
block,
but
the
I
want
to
join
in
with
the
folks
who
were
suggesting
that
ami
and
lauren
the
threshold
are
two
things
that
we
tried
to
do
now
through
executive
order.
S
You
know,
visibility.
Studies
are
great,
but
in
this
in
some
cases
I
think
you
just
have
to
do
what
you
have
to
do
and
then
study
that
so
the
reality
is
let's
implement.
Some
of
these
changes
now
drop
the
threshold
to
five
we
like
to
see,
you
know
average
40
for
rentals
50
to
100
for
for
homeowners,
and
let's
tell
you
that
and
see
where,
where
we
come
out
and-
and
you
know,
then
maybe
we
actually
realized
that
we
can
do
more
than
than
even
those
numbers.
S
You
know,
and
it's
and
you
know
we're
seeing
this
both
for
housing
but
as
I
believe
the
chief
mentioned
is
that
everyone
wants
to
build
labs
now,
right
and
so
and
and
and
sometimes
the
way
they
do,
that
is,
they
include
housing
with
it,
and
but
two
things
are
happening
here,
because
we
talked
about
the
cliff
defect.
Two
things
are
happening
here
that
these
developers
are
putting
in
what
they
call
the
job
training
programs
right,
but
the
reality
is
what
I've
seen
so
far.
S
None
of
them
have
any
substance
behind
them
and
and
and
then
there's
no
real
serious
commitment
or
enforcement
of
the
commitment,
because
it's
not
the
developer
who's
going
to
be
theirs
at
the
tenant.
So
the
developer
makes
a
deal
with
the
community,
but
then
the
tenant
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
adhere
to
that
deal.
S
So
I
think
we
have
to
think
about
all
these
things
before
we
give
away
all
this
land
and
and
because,
if
you
know
if
the
labs
are
coming
in,
then
we
actually
have
entry-level
jobs
for
life
sciences,
that
if
you
have
a
high
school
equivalent
people
think
this
stuff
is
for
scientists
or
something
you
got
high
school
equivalent.
You
can
get
an
entry
job
as
blood.
These
life
signs
are
70
thousand
dollars,
but
then
the
question
comes
up
again.
S
S
S
You
really
you're
not
reaching
out
to
the
active
community,
so
they
made
some
changes,
but
still
we
thought
it
was
inadequate,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
to
have
a
real,
true
community
process
for
the
study,
but
the
city
should
partner
with
a
community
organization
or
organizations
to
come
up
with
what
that
plan
looks
like,
and
I
believe
those
are
my
thoughts.
Thank
you.
H
R
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today.
I'm
the
housing
attorney
at
greater
boston,
legal
services
and
I'm
testifying
on
behalf
of
our
client
groups,
the
boss,
antenna
coalition
and
the
coalition
for
truly
affordable
boston,
and
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
role
of
the
city's
duty
to
affirmatively
further
fair
housing
in
this
whole
process.
R
R
You
know,
as
we
all
know,
boston
is
a
city
that
has
a
legacy
of
discrimination
and
segregation
by
race
and
much
of
that
still
exists.
There
is
a
huge
disparity
in
income
in
boston
between
white
households
and
households
of
color.
There
are
huge
disparities
in
homeownership
rates
and
rent
burdens
between
white
households
and
households.
Of
color,
the
average
rents
in
boston
are
vastly
beyond
the
incomes
of
the
great
majority
of
households
of
color,
and
households
of
color
are
four
to
six
times
as
likely
to
live
in
areas
of
concentrated
poverty
in
boston.
R
There
was
a
2020
evictions
in
boston
study
showing
that
if
you
live
in
roxbury,
your
the
eviction
rate
is
10
times
greater
than
if
you
live
in
beacon
hill.
Your
and
the
eviction
rate
is
just
one
component
showing
housing
instability,
but
you
know
imagine
in
the
how,
in
the
neighborhoods
of
color
that
there's
a
ten
times
greater
housing
instability
factor
as
there
are
in
in
in
predominantly
white
neighborhoods.
R
R
R
Why
why
is
that
happening,
and
I
think
we
all
know
that
that
displacement
and
negative
impacts
are
happening
because
of
some
rampant
high
luxury
market
housing
development
that
has
dramatically
inflated
land
costs
in
boston-
and
I
just
want
to
highlight
that
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing
is,
is
not
just
a
part
of
this
process,
because
it's
in
the
inclusionary
development
enabling
legislation,
but
also
because
the
whole
point
of
zoning
in
massachusetts
and
in
boston
is
to
further
the
general
welfare.
That
is
the
rationale
for
boston
and
affirmatively.
R
Furthering
fair
housing
is
critically
important
to
the
general
welfare.
So
one
question
or
point
I
wanted
to
raise
is
it's.
I
think
it's
wonderful
that
there
is
going
to
be
a
study
about
how
to
change
the
inclusionary
development
process
or
our
policy,
but
it
feels
like
the
study
is
really
focusing
on
probably
the
wrong
question
of
feasibility.
R
The
real
question
is:
how
can
we
have?
How
can
we
encourage
and
enforce
the
development
of
housing
that
is
healthy
for
all
bostonians?
That
is
not
discriminatory.
That
is
not
going
to
result
in
massive
displacement
of
people
of
color.
That
is
not
going
to
result
in
ongoing
segregation,
and
so
you
know
when
you
you
sit
back
for
a
minute,
and
you
think
you
know
we
don't
allow
smelting
plants
in,
or
factories
in
general
in
boston.
R
Why?
Because
there's
a
determination
that
those
are
harmful
and
that
they
don't
promote
the
general
welfare.
Well,
it
it's
very
apparent
that
there
is.
There
are
kinds
of
development
and
housing
development
that
are
harmful,
that
do
not
promote
the
general
welfare
and
whether
they're
we
don't
care
whether
a
smelting
plant
is
feasible
or
not,
or
whether
that
is
the
the
highest
and
best
and
most
lucrative
use
of
the
land
for
the
owner.
R
R
So
these
instances
are
happening
and-
and
really
we
need
to
be
looking
at
that-
and
we
need
to
be
looking
at
how
this
high
market
rate
housing
is
impacting
the
neighborhood
we.
You
know
we
want
to
have
as
many
inclusionary
development
units
as
as
possible,
but
we
need
to
also
be
looking
at
in
general,
a
big
question
of
how
are
we
implementing
affirmatively
further
furthering
fair
housing
to
promote
the
general
welfare
in
our
zoning
process
in
general?
R
One
thing
I
just
wanted
to
say
in
the
assessment
of
fair
housing:
there's
a
call
for
a
fair
housing,
audit
of
boston,
zoning
and
the
and
the
boston
planning
and
development
agency,
and
that's
something
that
I'm
sure
that
will
be
discussed
in
the
future.
But
that's
a
also
a
very
important
need
to
create
the
best
inclusionary
development
policy
possible.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
this
opportunity
and
appreciate
that
I
had
this
opportunity
to
speak.
A
C
I
don't
have
questions,
but
I
did
just
want
to
say
that
shamika.
Thank
you
for
your
testimony
about
not
recognizing
boston.
We
get
emails
all
the
time
from
our
residents
who
say
I
strike
a
very
similar
note.
As
do
I
look
around
and
like
is
this.
The
city
I
grew
up
in
is
this
where
my
parents
were
able
to
buy
a
home
many
years
ago
that
so
many
families
are
struggling
with.
C
Is
those
promises
from
developers
that
never
come
to
fruition
those
broken
promises,
and
we
see
it
time
and
time
again
whether
it's
access
to
green
space,
whether
it's,
whatever
amenities
that
we
just
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
holding
them
accountable.
So
I
just
want
to
look
that
up
as
something
that
I
appreciate
you
mentioning
that
you
know
we
agree
to
things
and
the
tenants
don't
have
to
so
we
we
just
have
to
find
a
way
the
city
to
make
sure
that
they're
delivering
on
what
they
promised
to
communities.
C
D
Yeah,
I
also
don't
have
questions
I
just
wanted
to
express
thanks.
I
think
that
was
a
really
clear
presentation
of
the
of
the
coalition's
points
and
and
informed
by
your
own
experience.
It
was
great
and
marvin,
I
feel
like
action
for
equity
is
sort
of
like
the
the
og
group
on
some
of
this
stuff.
Like
focusing
on
you
know,
I
think
now
the
whole
city
is
talking
about
displacement
and
also
talking
about
hey.
How
do
we?
D
I
just
really
appreciate
you
in
the
whole
group's
work,
and
it
was
very
eye
opening
for
me
when
I
first
learned
about
it,
and
and
thank
you
as
ever
to
margaret
as
alluded
to
she's,
been
a
gbls
has
been
a
key
partner
in
the
conversations
around
it
from
really
furthering
fair
housing
at
like
a
global
level
in
the
city,
and
this
is
definitely
one
aspect
of
that.
So
really
appreciate
everybody,
and
but
I
know
we've
got
lots
of
folks
signed
up
for
public
testimony.
So
I
will
end
my
comments.
There.
A
A
T
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
chair,
indra,
the
comedian,
housing
community
development
in
boston
city
council.
My
name
is
alba.
Oliver,
I'm
a
resident
of
austin,
an
advocacy
and
engagement
coordinator
at
economic
mobility
pathways
empaths
empath
is
a
poverty
disrupting
organization
that
transforms
lives
by
helping
people
move
out
of
poverty
and
provide
the
tools
to
help
other
organizations
and
institutions
to
do
the
same.
We
provide
provide
emergency,
shelter
and
transitional
housing,
as
well
as
economic
mobility,
mentoring
support
services
to
approximately
1400
1400
people
annually.
I'm
testifying
in
support
of
truly
affordable
standards
for
the
idp.
T
Please
urge
mayor
wu
to
change
the
idp.
Now,
even
before
a
new
study
is
complete.
We
need
the
idp
to
reach
lower
incomes
and
apply
to
smaller
projects.
Now
we
need
to
deepen
affordability
and
for
33
percent
of
units
to
be
affordable,
not
just
13
or
20
empaths.
We
believe
that
it
is
critical
for
us
to
use
two
house
families.
We
believe
that
shelter
should
be
at
least
a
last
resort
and
what
families
need
most
is
to
save
in
in
affordable
housing.
We
also
know
black
and
brown.
T
Families
are
disproportionately
impacted
by
housing,
instability
and
homelessness,
while
black
families
make
up
12
percent
of
the
general
population,
they
account
for
39
of
all
people
experiencing
homelessness
in
2020.
people
who
are
identifying
a
hispanic
or
latino
make
up
60
percent
of
the
general
population
and
accounted
for
23
percent
of
all
people
experiencing
the
homelessness.
T
We
must
agree.
We
must
acknowledge
the
deep
deeply
rooted
racism
in
our
housing
systems
and
work
to
provide
equitable
access
and
support
to
truly
affordable
housing
by
improving
the
idp
families
have
shared
time
and
time
again
how
affordable
housing
was
the
critical
piece
to
their
success
story.
One
family
who
enters
shelter
after
fleeing
her
hospital
abuser,
has
been
obtained.
An
affordable
housing
unit
said
since
getting
my
own
apartment.
I
graduated
nursing
school
got
married
and
watched
my
daughter
grow
academically,
especially
and
athletically.
T
Personally,
I
am
a
60
of
the
area.
Medium
income
am,
I
I'm
still
a
section,
a
voucher
holder,
but
will
soon
pay
market
rent,
and
I
could
not
afford
a
unit
set
for
people
making
70
of
ami
in
boston.
There
are
many
other
issues
affecting
black
and
brown
communities
and
immigrants,
such
as
criminal
offender
record
information,
query,
immigration
status,
bad
credit
and
eviction
under
records.
T
These
are
the
type
of
obstacles
that
families
we
work
with
face
when
looking
for
a
stable
home
for
them
and
their
children
idp
unit
rents
are
set
for
people
making
70
of
the
ami,
which
is
60
000
for
an
individual
and
85
000
for
a
family
of
four.
The
current
idp
attracts
certain
classes,
certain
races
and
certain
incomes
and
disproportionately
exclude
communities
of
color
from
accessing,
affordable
housing.
Even
with
a
section
8
voucher,
a
lot
of
single
black
and
brown
and
immigrant
mothers
still
are
not
able
to
access
these
affordable
units.
T
Due
to
the
do
these
obstacles,
we
need
to
include
them.
We
need
to
include
the
most
marginalized
by
deepening
the
affordability
of
the
units.
Rental
units
should
be
affordable
at
as
low
as
30
percent
of
ami
up
to
70
ami.
We
also
must
increase
the
the
number
of
portable
units
available
from
13
to
33
percent.
If
we
don't
make
this
change
along
with
others,
black
and
brown
communities
bypass
communities
will
further
displace
what
our
communities
need
is
truly
affordable
boston.
T
We
need
33
percent
of
new
new
units
to
be
affordable
and
we
need
to
deepen
the
affordability
of
units
it
will.
It
will
benefit
families
that
we
serve,
who
are
working
towards
economic
mobility,
which
will
in
turn
benefit
the
community
at
large.
Economic
mobility
is
impossible
to
achieve
without
safe
and
affordable
housing.
Another
empath
family
share
housing
stability
leads
to
stability
in
all
areas
of
your
life.
T
It
creates
pathways
for
upward
mobility
when
our
families
do
better
our
communities
improve
as
a
city,
we
must
be
proactive
in
preventing
homelessness,
help
those
who
need
access
to
affordable
housing
and
make
sure
those
are
housed
at
state
house.
I
ask
you
to
urge
mayor
wu
to
chase
the
idp
now.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
So,
although
you
only
have
two
minutes,
I
one
ask
that
you
stay
within
your
two
minutes
so
that
we
can
get
to
everybody,
but
also
that
you
speak
clearly
for
the
interpreter,
so
that
what
you're
saying
can
be
translated
to
folks
who
aren't
listening
in
the
next
person
is
daniel
summer
and
then
we're
going
to
go
with
tyne,
weston
and
dufert
florissant
after
danielle
summer.
You
have
the
floor.
U
U
I'm
really
excited
to
hear
that
there's
a
study,
but
for
the
city
and
for
mayor
wu
to
the
lower
the
ami
is
a
40
ami
for
rental
and
50
to
100
ami
for
ownership,
and
I
want
to
encourage
that,
because
a
city
is
truly
an
ecosystem
and
I've
been
working
on
affordable
housing
issues
for
a
long
time.
So
people
have
probably
heard
me
say
this
before
a
neighborhood
is
an
ecosystem,
but
a
city
is
one
too
and
to
fully
have
a
healthy
and
vibrant
city
ecosystem.
We
need
to
fully
support
all
of
our
residents.
U
U
There
have
been
studies
that
show
that
long-term
residency
and
it
isn't
required
to
have
ownership.
Just
the
ability
to
have
housing
stability
in
these
ways
can
lower
crime
rates.
There.
You
see
results
with
residents
having
a
lot
of
long-term
investment
in
their
neighborhoods
and
a
wealth
of
benefits
that
come
out
of
that.
U
So
lowering
ami
will
allow
for
the
support
of
these
individuals
and
communities,
and,
quite
simply,
that's
just
what
makes
sense
for
boston,
as
we
think
going
forward
and
in
particular,
as
alba
again
pointed
out
like
this,
is
adversely
and
more
dramatically
impacting
bipod
communities
and
as
such
as
a
as
a
city
that
is
deeply
committed
to
our
diversity
and
the
benefits
that
that
truly
brings
to
us.
We
need
to
do
what's
right
and
honor
all
of
our
communities.
Thank
you.
H
A
V
Well,
thank
you
so
much.
I
hope
that
you
can
hear
me
clearly
on
the
zone.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
council
region
for
allowing
me
to
bring
my
testimony
on
behalf
of
equity
now
and
beyond.
Equity
in
rn
beyond
is
an
immigrant
health
equity
cohort
that
is
led
by
grassroot
immigrant
groups.
V
True
island
center,
haitian
american
united
incorporated
brazilian
women's
group
african
community
economic
development
of
new
england
and
ancient
alpha
that
is
coordinated
by
center
to
support
immigrant
organizing,
I'm
here,
to
submit
testimony
to
encourage
the
city,
council
and
mayor
to
adopt
a
stronger
inclusionary
development
policy
that
better
meets
the
needs
of
boston,
black
and
brown
immigrant
communities,
while
it
will
would
inaudible
and
brings
our
communities
together
towards
the
corporate
crisis.
Now
we
are
build
greater
health
equity
beyond
kovid.
V
V
So
to
address
the
lack
of
a
safe,
affordable,
housing
in
boston
for
our
communities.
We
are
testifying
today
to
the
city
council,
to
advocate
that
work
with
mayor
to
adopt
just
to
increase
the
number
of
affordable
units
covered
on
the
idp,
as
I
always
just
addressed,
that
communicated
from
the
city
council
as
well
with
the
mayor
to
increase
that
from
the
13
to
40
percent,
and
also
to
lower
the
threshold
that
many
of
my
colleagues
alluded
to
the
triggers
of
for
the
body
units
just
right
now.
V
V
Rental
units
should
be
affordable
at
an
average
of
40
or
less
than
40
percent,
and
range
again,
due
to
the
fact
that
I
live
in
the
community,
and
I
see
exactly,
we
lost
so
many
families
who
flee
boston
and
went
all
the
way
to
the
south
fall
river,
but
I
can't
stay
in
brockton,
it's
too
expensive
for
them
and
also
they
have
to
commit,
commute
and
travel
all
the
time
to
boston.
This
is
where
their
work
is.
V
This
is
where
they
could
find
all
the
resources
for
their
children,
such
as
after-school
programs.
They
have
to
commute
a
long
ways,
the
fact
that
they
can't
afford
paying
rent
in
boston.
So
we
need
the
city,
council
and
the
mayor
to
keep
the
affordability
covenant
permanent,
also
for
many
units
right
now,
and
we
believe
that
these
idp
changes
will
be
crucial.
Support
for
boston,
immigrant
populations
in
addressing
the
overwhelming
housing
crisis
facing
them.
V
A
W
W
So,
as
a
working-class
city,
we
need
to
not
wait
for
these
reports
to
come
back
in
these
studies
to
come
back.
We
actually
need
to
act
right
now
and
lower
the
ami,
so
that
people
like
myself
and
anyone
else
can
afford
to
live
in
the
city
that
we
work
in
we
work
here.
I
deal
with
people's
medications
all
day
and
if
I
don't
have
a
great
quality
of
life,
it
affects
my
ability
to
work
and
you
want
the
person
who's,
handling
your
medication
to
feel
good,
to
have
a
great
quality
of
life.
W
X
Hello,
dear
counselor,
lara
and
the
boston
city
council,
thank
you
for
your
continued
support
of
the
inclusionary
development
policy
and
for
facilitating
this
important
conversation
today.
My
name
is
asha
muthaleb
and
I'm
a
community
member
and
also
a
working
professional
in
the
fenway
area,
and
I
am
testifying
in
support
of
the
truly
affordable
standards
for
the
inclusionary
development
policy.
Today,
as
most
of
us
know,
we
are
in
the
midst
of
a
housing
and
health
crisis
that
has
and
continues
to
affect,
the
stability
of
communities
in
boston.
X
For
that
reason,
I
urge
the
city
to
strengthen
the
idp
to
more
accurately
reflect
the
needs
of
boston
and,
most
importantly,
benefit
those
most
impacted
by
racism
and
the
displacement
crisis.
Adequate,
affordable
housing
is
not
only
a
human
right,
but
also
fundamental
to
ensuring
the
overall
well-being
and
health
of
communities.
X
That
is
why
we
need
an
idp
that
prioritizes
our
communities
over
developer,
profits
that
often
cause
displacement
in
our
communities
and,
as
you
listen
to
as
you
listen
to
me
speak
today,
developments
are
rising
and
opportunities
for
new,
affordable
housing
are
actively
being
missed
upon.
For
that
reason,
we
call
on
mayor
wu
to
change
the
id
idp
through
an
executive
order
immediately,
even
before
a
new
study
is
complete
upon
the
completion
of
the
new
study.
We
truly
hope
to
see
an
increase
in
the
set-aside
requirement
to
be
raised
from
13
to
33,
affordable
units.
X
Y
Thank
you.
My
name
is
sarah
horsley
and
I'm
a
resident
of
jamaica
plain.
I
am
testifying
today
in
support
of
truly
affordable
standards
for
the
idp.
I
asked
the
city
council
to
call
on
mayor
wu
to
strengthen
the
policy
now
even
before
the
new
study
is
complete.
We
need
the
idp
to
reach
lower
incomes
and
to
apply
to
smaller
projects.
Y
Y
Y
I
also
want
to
address
what
percentage
of
units
should
be
affordable.
Some
on
the
city
council
have
suggested
raising
the
set
aside
to
20
percent.
That
is
simply
not
enough.
In
the
year
2000,
the
jp
neighborhood
council
created
a
neighborhood
inclusionary
policy
with
a
set
aside
of
25
percent
two
decades
ago
25.
Y
Although
the
policy
is
not
legally
required,
we
often
get
developers
to
devel
deliver
over
20
affordability
over
two
decades
after
the
jp
policy
called
for
25
affordability.
How
can
a
city-wide
idp
of
20
percent
be
enough
when
we
are
facing
a
dire
housing
crisis?
How
can
a
city-wide
set-aside
of
20
or
even
25
percent
be
enough?
Y
This
is
why
we're
calling
for
33
percent
or
one-third
affordable.
I
know
my
time
is
up.
I'm
almost
done
it's
time
to
strengthen
the
idp,
so
it
provides
for
our
communities
rather
than
prioritizing
developer
profits.
So
we
need
increased
affordability
to
one-third
deepening
the
amis
and
lowering
the
10-unit
threshold.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
sarah
for
your
testimony
and
for
sharing
with
us,
the
the
n
c
is
25.
I
think
we
are
going
to
be
moving
into
this
new
study
and
we
need
to
consider
all
the
places
in
the
city
where
developers
have
been
able
to
do
more
than
20
in
terms
of
affordability.
My
building,
where
I
live,
is
25
because
the
neighborhood
council
and
jp
sued
the
developer
and
we
got
25.
So
it's
definitely
doable
and
I
would
love
to
see
that
included
in
the
study.
A
Z
Z
Z
Also,
small
businesses
not
being
able
to
locate
labor,
and
one
thing
that
was
important-
is
that
I
would
like
to
say
is
that
living
in
the
city
is
not
a
luxury,
as
some
people
claim
it
to
be.
It's
a
vast
necessity.
You
need
to
have
your
teachers,
your
government,
employees,
retail
workers,
hospitality
workers
and
health
care
workers
within
a
close
proximity
to
their
employment
in
order
to
provide
essential
services
to
the
city
to
keep
the
city
functioning
so
affordable.
Z
Housing
is
an
important
ingredient
and
by
enhancing
the
idp
policy
and
the
number
of
percentage
of
units
on
site,
as
well
as
the
income
eligibility,
would
be
a
tremendous
reinforcement,
as
the
city
works,
to
help
alleviate
the
housing,
affordability,
crisis
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that,
and
thank
you
very
much.
I
know
we're
limited
for
time,
but
thank
you.
R
AA
I'm
from
housing
works,
we
work
with
70
000
families
who
look
for
housing
through
our
website
and
we
run
a
centralized
list
for
low-income
landlords.
So
we
have
data
on
people
from
the
moment
they
start
to
positive
or
negative
outcomes
years
later,
and
I'm
pushing
that
we
increase
the
idp
percentages
to
at
least
the
33
percent.
AA
You
can
see
that
in
the
second
picture,
due
to
the
pandemic,
the
60
population
literally
disappeared
from
boston,
but
this
is
an
unduplicated
account
across
all
of
the
housing
that
we
run
the
waitlist
for
and
that's
continued
to
be
true
this
year.
Actually
those
people
moved
down
into
the
30
category,
and
that
means
there's
more
people
competing
for
the
30
and
50
units.
It
also
means
that
the
landlords
I
work
with
have
months
and
months
of
empty
60
units
which
they
cannot
fill
that's
affecting
their
budgets.
AA
So
there
are
more
60
and
70
units
attach
the
new
boston
rental
subsidy
program,
expand
that
to
10
million
and
attach
it
to
those
units,
so
they
become
30
and
50
units
that
are
actually
affordable.
Last
we
can't
have
units
that
buildings
that
are
market,
rent
and
30
housing
or
50.
There
need
to
be
three
four
and
five
income
levels
in
that
building.
AA
In
order
for
there
to
be
social
capital
being
built
in
the
neighborhood,
so
thank
you
very
much
I'll
skip
the
other
ones,
but
the
second
chart
actually
asking
how
many
people
are
displaced
and
for
what
reason
there's
a
thousand
families
displaced
in
the
last
year.
There
are
four
reasons
the
lowest
is
the
pandemic.
It'd
be
interesting
to
look
at
that.
Thank
you
so
much
thank.
A
AB
You
counselor
for
your
patience
by
michael
caine
from
the
mass
alliance
of
hud
tenets,
we're
a
city-wide
and
statewide
coalition
of
tenant
groups
in
privately
owned
subsidized
housing.
Low-Income
tenants,
we've
been
fighting
to
get
additional
subsidies
like
the
city
rent
subsidy
program
that
we
were
instrumental
in
getting
walsh
to
start.
Two
years
ago
we
anchor
the
city
rent
subsidy
coalition
and
we're
a
member
and
supporter
of
the
ctab
coalition.
AB
So
I
don't
want
to
repeat
what
a
lot
of
people
have
said.
I
just
want
to
show
the
chart.
First,
we
looked
at
the
number
of
super
luxury
high-rise
units
built
in
the
last
eight
years
in
boston.
It's
thirteen
thousand,
that's
condos!
Over
a
million
rentals
at
you
know,
four
thousand
for
a
two
bedroom
and
the
list
of
them
is
on
the
back.
At
the
same
time,
700
units
were
built
for
extremely
low
income
people,
which
is
the
majority
of
people
that
need
housing
as
you've
heard.
AB
So
there's
something
wrong
with
that
picture,
so
some
recommendations.
First,
I
really
really
want
to
support
counselor
box
point
about
targeting
small
area
fmr
bha
vouchers
to
the
idp
buildings.
They
can
actually
cover
the
market
rent
and
achieve
the
kind
of
tiering
that
john
just
mentioned.
So
that's
one
thing.
Secondly,
the
city
rent
subsidy
can
lower
the
idp
units
rents
to
people
at
30
to
50
percent
or
even
lower
of
the
median
income
by
targeting
those
subsidies
to
the
idp
units.
AB
If
the
the
mayor
has
proposed
7.5
million,
we
hope
the
council
will
add
to
that,
and
the
budget
process
make
it
10
million.
10
million
would
be
enough
for
a
thousand
permanent,
extremely
low
income
units
in
the
idp
units.
You
could
lower
the
idp
units
set
aside
for
even
lower
income
people
by
using
a
city
resource
a
couple
of
other
points,
the
mayor's
home
rule
petition
to
increase
low-income
rent
subsidies
and
the
money
for
the
housing
trust
fund.
AB
If
about
half
of
that
were
used
for
the
low
income
rent
subsidy
you're
talking
four
and
five
thousand
units
subsidized
from
the
regular
city
budget,
washington
dc
spends
about
45
million
a
year
for
several
thousand
units
of
low-income
rent
subsidies,
like
section
8
at
the
city
level.
If
they
can
do
it,
why
can't
we
and
the
last
point
is
oh
and
there
should
be
no
off-site
units,
I
mean.
What's
the
point
of
you
know
that
we're
rebuilding
a
segregated
city?
Look
at
the
seaport.
AB
Look
at
the
south
end
every
neighborhood
they're,
building
these
high-rise
luxury
apartments
that
are
not
available
for
people
in
the
city.
Even
working-class
white
people,
let
alone
people
of
color
how
many
low-income
people
of
color
live
in
the
seaport.
That
was
a
crime
that
that
happened
over
the
last
20
years.
It
was
a
crime,
so
we
don't
want
to
repeat
that
crime.
AB
So
if
new
york
can
make
sure
that
all
units
are
all
idp
units
are
in
the
buildings,
so
should
we
and
finally
markeisha
mentioned
the
show
the
increases
inflationary
increases
in
values
in
dorchester,
there
should
be
a
recapture
agreement
attached
to
any
new
development,
so
which
is
a
common
place
in
latin
america,
canada
and
europe.
It's
very
rare
in
the
united
states,
but
it
should
be
done
so
that
if
there's
a
speculative
gain,
the
city
gets
a
portion
of
that
it
gets
it
paid
back.
AB
So
that
should
be
a
requirement
for
any
kind
of
city
approval,
especially
if
it's
public
land,
so
those
are
just
a
few
suggestions,
there's
some
others,
but
the
idp
policy.
You
don't
have
to
wait
for
the
new
policy.
You
can
negotiate
those
subsidies
to
lower
the
rents
now
as
the
projects
go
forward.
Thank
you.
Thank.
AC
Pharaoh
hi,
hello,
my
name
is
phyllis
janey
and
I'm
a
resident
of
roxbury
and
a
member
of
the
massachusetts
senior
action
council.
We
are
a
statewide
organization
led
by
seniors.
We
have
six
chapters
across
the
state
with
boston
being
our
largest
chapter.
We
work
collectively
to
improve
the
lives
of
seniors
and
our
communities
across
the
commonwealth.
AC
I'm
here
today
to
ask
the
council
to
adopt
five
policies
to
address
the
city's
housing
crisis.
A
2019
umass
study
reported
six
in
10
massachusetts.
Seniors,
do
not
have
the
income
to
make
ends
meet
massachusetts
ranks
50th
for
senior
economic
security.
This
means
that
we
are
at
the
bottom
of
the
barrel.
AC
AC
AC
AC
How
long
can
we
kick?
This
housing
crisis
can
down
the
road.
The
current
idp
regulations
are
not
meeting
the
needs
of
the
community.
We
hope
you
will
adopt
the
solutions
provided
here
today
by
the
community
living
with
lack
of
affordable
housing.
You
have
the
power
to
address
those
impacted
by
racism
and
displacement
crisis.
AC
Specifically,
we
call
for
call
on
the
city
to
one
increase.
The
affordability
requirement
to
one
third:
two:
deepen
the
affordability
of
the
affordable
units.
Three
lower
the
ten
unit
threshold,
four
ensure
that
affordable
units
are
permanently
affordable.
Five
significantly
increased
transparency,
and
thank
you.
H
AD
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
wahash
farah,
I'm
a
senior,
and
I
attend
roxbury
prep
high
school,
I'm
a
member
of
the
youth
justice
power
union.
That's
right,
I'm
also
a
resident
of
mission
hill
and
I
am
testifying
in
support
of
the
truly
affordable
standards
for
the
idp.
Please
call
on
mayor
wu
to
change
the
idp.
Now,
even
before
a
new
study
is
complete.
We
need
the
idp
to
reach
lower
incomes
and
apply
to
smaller
projects.
Now
and
when
the
city
finishes,
studying
the
idp,
we
need
33
percent,
affordable,
not
just
13
or
20
percent.
AD
For
example,
my
community
in
mission
hill
has
seen
a
lot
of
development
of
luxury
homes
and,
as
a
result,
many
families
whose
rent
increased
and
were
forced
to
move
further
and
further
away
from
the
city.
Also
many
small
businesses
were
also
not
supported.
With
these
increased
developments
and
because
of
high
rent,
they
were
no
longer
able
to
have
a
business
and
eventually
were
shut
down.
AD
H
AE
I'm
testifying
in
support
of
truly
affordable
standards
for
the
idp,
urging
to
please
call
mayor
wu
to
change
the
idp.
Now,
even
before
a
new
study
is
complete.
We
need
the
idp
to
reach
lower
incomes
and
apply
to
smaller
projects.
Now
and
when
the
the
city
finishes.
Studying
the
idp,
we
need
33,
affordable,
not
just
13
or
20
percent.
Affordable
housing
is
important
because
these
are
people's
lives
that
we're
playing
with.
We
have
a
homeless
problem
in
boston
and
we're
not
making
things
truly
affordable.
AE
AE
The
standards
that
I
want
to
highlight
are
to
increase
the
affordability
requirement
to
one-third
the
city
has
to
increase
the
percentage
so
that
33
percent
of
the
units
are
affordable
and
then
two
to
deepen
the
affordability
of
the
affordable
units.
Rental
units
should
be
affordable
at
an
average
of
40
ami
within
a
range
of
30
to
70.
Ami
ownership
units
should
be
affordable
at
a
range
of
50
percent
to
100
ami.
AE
AF
AF
All
right
good
afternoon,
all
my
name
is
elsa
ababa
and
I'm
a
resident
of
roxbury
and
a
current
senior
at
roxbury
prep
high
school.
I
am
also
with
youth
justice,
power
and
union.
I
am
testifying
in
support
of
truly
affordable
standards
for
the
idp.
Please
call
on
mayor
wu
to
change
the
idp.
Now,
even
before
new
studies
complete,
we
need
the
idp
to
reach
lower
incomes
and
apply
to
smaller
projects.
Now
and
when
the
city
finishes
studying
the
idp,
we
need
33,
affordable
housing,
not
just
13
or
20
percent.
AF
AF
For
this,
for
this
is
not
fair
for
our
poc
brothers
and
sisters,
we
have
seen
many
of
them
suffer
for
a
complete
messed
up
system
and
not
get
the
sustainable
housing
that
they
deserve.
We
need
to
hit
a
line
for
that
many
low-income
families
that
they
deserve
a
luxury
home
so
that
they
can
provide
for
their
children
and
be
able
to
stay
in
school
in
boston,
not
having
to
struggle
with
traveling
etc.
AF
AG
Hello,
my
name
is
ayan
mohammed
and
I'm
a
senior
at
boston,
land
academy
and
I'm
also
with
the
justice
empower
union.
I
live
in
the
roxbury
neighborhood
and
I'm
testifying
in
support
of
truly
affordable
standards
for
the
idp.
Please
call
on
mayor
wu
to
change
the
idp.
Now,
even
before
a
new
study
is
complete.
We
need
the
idp
to
reach
lower
income
communities
and
apply
to
smaller
projects.
Now
and
when
the
city
finishes,
studying
the
idp,
we
need
33,
affordable,
not
just
13
or
20.
AG
Over
the
years,
roxbury
has
been
following
victim
to
gentrification.
I've
lived
in
roxbury
the
past
12
years
of
my
life
and
I've
quite
literally
watched
the
neighborhood
change
drastically,
as
margaret
turner
was
mentioning
earlier.
Boston
has
a
long
history
of
segregation
and
has
such
wide
discrepancies
in
household
income
based
on
race
and
the
city
of
boston
is
consistently
using
those
discrepancies
to
disproportionately
harm
and
push
out
black
and
brown
residents.
AG
A
new
apartment,
complex
building,
arises
every
couple
of
months
taking
and
is
and
is
taking
away
a
piece
of
my
neighborhood
every
single
time,
like
the
demolishing
of
the
raspberry
love
mural,
which
was
a
very
memorable
and
important
part
of
culture
in
the
roxbury
neighborhood,
but
was
destroyed
to
build
new
housing
boston
doesn't
need
new
luxury
housing.
It
needs
to
extend
affordable
housing
to
include
its
already
residents.
AG
Roxbury
is
the
heart
of
black
culture
in
boston
and
within
boston,
and
now
it's
community
and
its
people
are
being
stripped
away
bit
by
bit.
The
idp
unit
rents
are
set
for
people
making
seventy
percent
of
the
area
median
income,
which
is
sixty
thousand
dollars
for
an
individual
and
eighty
five
thousand
dollars
for
a
family
of
four.
But
this
is
out
of
range
for
most
residents
in
black
and
brown
communities,
especially
in
roxbury,
and
it's
leading
to
the
heavy
and
continuous
displacement
of
its
people.
AG
AA
AH
And
so
you
know-
and
I
think
she
might
have
stepped
out,
but
chief
dylan
and
I
think
tim
davis
is
still
here.
You
know
they
both
pushed
to
help.
You
know
I
mean
it
wasn't
always
the
most
smooth
of
interactions,
but
we
have
gone
more
30
and
40
and
50
ami
units
in
in
eggleston
and
in
jp.
I'm
recognizing
the
importance
of
that
and
I
think
the
the
thing
I
want
to
emphasize
about
that
is
it's
it's
a
matter
of
racial
justice.
AH
It's
a
matter
of
gender
justice
and
the
same
passion
that
people
have,
and
I
think
it's
not
a
coincidence
that
young
people
are
fighting
around
housing,
that
young
people
have
been
fighting
around
policing
that
young
people
have
been
fighting
around
jobs,
because
the
history
of
racism
in
the
united
states
goes
very
deep
and
is
completely
connected
around
land
and
housing,
from
colonization
to
slavery,
to
genocide,
to
redlining
to
blockbusting
and
just
calling
on
the
city.
You
know,
I
know
folks
felt
a
lot
of
pressure
in
2020
with
all
the
protests.
AH
Oh,
we
need
to
do
something
as
a
city
to
address
policing,
but
it's
that
same
urgency
and
passion
that
needs
to
be
addressed
in
terms
of
housing
and
especially
looking
at
what
reaches
communities
of
color
the
most.
The
other
thought
I
just
want
to
briefly
say
is
that
developers
cry
broke
all
the
time
they
lie
to
us
left
and
right.
They
have
when
we
fought
the
building
by
building
until
suddenly
they
magically
found
out
that
they
were
making
enough
profit
to
do
more
affordable.
AH
But
one
of
the
funny
things
about
this
land
values
question
is
it's
actually
not
even
completely
taking
from
developer
profits.
It's
about
the
land
owners
that
are
making
gaboozles
of
money
and
they're
fleecing
the
developers
too.
So
hopefully
the
developers
will
see
that
actually
having
you
know
when
you're
investing
trillions
of
or
billions
of
dollars,
millions
of
dollars.
As
long
as
you
know
what
the
rules
are
of
the
system,
you'll
figure
out
how
to
make
your
money,
so
the
city
just
needs
to
set
strong
rules
and
the
developers
will
be
fine.
AH
A
Thank
you,
george
lee,
thank
you
to
everybody
here
in
the
chambers
and
the
folks
who
are
still
watching
on
zoom
for
giving
us
your
testimony.
I
want
to
extend
my
thanks
to
the
administration,
the
mayor's
office
of
housing,
chief
dylan
tim
and
michelle,
and
all
the
folks
who
came
to
share
information
and
who
will
be
sending
information
answers
to
our
questions
to
our
office.
A
It's
incredibly
inspiring
to
see
so
many
of
you
still
fighting
as
and
it
is
as
inspiring
as
as
it
is.
I
would
say,
sombering
that
we
are
still
in
this
fight
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
make
sure
that
our
people
can
stay
in
our
neighborhoods.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
putting
yourself
out.
There
really
excited
to
continue
conversations
around
what
the
next
steps
look
like
for
the
city
and
for
the
city
council
and
as
of
now,
this
meeting
and
this
hearing
is
adjourned.
A
C
A
Here
we
go
technical
difficulties
with
our
videos,
but
I
want
to
let
the
folks
from
the
coalition
know
that
this
video
is
going
to
be
added
to
the
record,
we're
going
to
we're
unable
to
play
it
right
now
for
people
in
the
chamber
to
see,
but
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
the
the
eight
minutes
of
testimony
that
we
have
there
are
going
to
be
added
on
to
the
record.
So
thank
you
all
again
for
coming
and
second
time's
the
charm.
This
hearing
is
adjourned.