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Docket #0817 - Hearing regarding the City of Boston to accept and expend the FY20 Emergency Solutions Grant- COVID-19 supplement funds, awarded by the United States Department of Housing & Urban Development
A
A
C
D
B
B
F
B
Okay,
then
very
well,
then,
good
morning,
everyone
for
the
record.
My
name
is
lydia
edwards,
I'm
chair
of
the
boston
city
council
committee,
on
housing
and
community
development.
I'm
joined
today
by
my
colleagues,
councilor
braden,
councillor
flynn
and
counselor
bach.
I
want
to
remind
you
that
this
is
a
public
hearing.
It
is
being
recorded,
will
be
rebroadcasted
on
comcast
8,
our
cn-82
and
verizon
1964
at
a
later
date.
It
is
currently
being
streamed
at
boston,
dot,
gov,
slash
city
dash,
council
dash
tv.
B
We
will
also
take
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
the
hearing.
If
you
are
interested
in
testifying,
please
email,
ron,
ron.cob,
cobb
boston.gov
for
the
link
and
follow
along
on
the
live
stream
to
know
when
it's
your
turn
to
speak,
please
state
your
name,
affiliation,
residence
and
limit
your
comments
to
a
few
minutes.
Please.
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket0817
order
for
hearing
regarding
the
city
of
boston
to
accept
an
expense,
fy20
emergency
solutions
grant
covid19
supplement
funds
awarded
by
the
united
states,
department
of
housing
and
urban
development.
B
I
am
going
to
now
introduce
some
of
our
speakers
from
the
administration.
Excuse
me,
I
apologize
I'll,
allow
my
colleagues
to
have
some
brief
opening
remarks.
Then
we
will
allow
for
the
administration
to
introduce
themselves
and
then
we
will
continue
on
with
the
hearing
without
further
ado.
Oh
I'm
sorry.
We've
also
been
joined
by
counselor
sabi
george,
but
in
order
of
arrival
we'll
start
with
council
breeding.
B
E
Brayden
good
morning,
councillor
edwards,
I'm
in
a
different
location.
This
morning,
I'm
slightly
discombobulated
just
interested
to
hear
how
the
administration
plan
on
spending
this
this
funds,
these
funds
and
interested
hearing
hearing
more.
Thank
you.
C
Okay,
I
don't
have
any
opening
statement.
Thank
you,
council,
edwards,
counselor.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
want
to
thank
d
for
joining
us
today
and
also
looking
forward
to
hearing
how
the
administration
is
planning
to
use
these
funds.
Obviously,
we
know
that
housing
is
a
really
critical
part
of
the
code
19
emergency
and
I'm
always
interested
in
sort
of
the
various
buckets
of
funds
that
we
get
from
hud
now
and
in
ordinary
times
and
kind
of
understanding
how
how
we're
using
our
discretion
as
a
city
within
the
parameters
that
they
apply.
So
thank
you
so
much.
Madam
chair.
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
thank
you
to
the
administration
and
d
who
is
here
with
us
this
morning,
looking
forward
to
the
rest
of
the
hearing,
that's
it
for
me.
Thank.
B
You
counselor
so
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
administration.
We're
joined
here
today
by
tim
davis,
rick,
wilson
and
katie
jim
green
and
katie
kay
katie
cahill
holloway
from
from
dnd.
So
if
I
will,
let
you
guys
take
it
away.
F
Thank
you,
chairperson
edwards
counselor,
bach,
councillor,
braden,
councillor,
savvy
george
and
councillor
flynn.
Thank
you
for
having
us
here
today
for
the
record.
I
am
tim
davis,
deputy
director
for
policy
development
and
research
at
the
department
of
neighbor
development.
I
am
joined
by
my
fellow
dnd
staff,
rick
wilson,
kdk
hill
holloway
and
jim
green,
the
federal
coronavirus
aid
relief
and
economic
security
act
for
the
cares
act
signed
on
march
27th,
made
direct
allocations
to
the
city
of
austin
through
three
grant
programs.
F
F
The
23
million
348
669
dollars.
That's
an
exact
number
in
emergency
shelter.
Grant
funds.
This
is
covered
by
docket
number
0817
will
support
homeless
service
providers
in
boston
to
assist
with
responding
to
the
covered
19
public
health
crisis
activities
prioritized
for
funding
include
adding
new
capacity
to
increase
the
number
of
winter
flow,
overflow,
winter,
overflow,
temporary
emergency
shelter,
beds,
emergency
shelter,
diversion
activities
and
investment
in
rapid
rehousing
programs,
including
the
creation
and
management
of
a
landlord
recruitment
program.
F
The
city's
overarching
goals
for
this
funding
are
to
preserve
life
and
health
through
investments
that
will
help
prevent
the
further
spread
of
covet
19
in
homeless
populations,
assist
those
experiencing
homelessness
in
finding
safe
alternatives
to
congregate,
shelter
through
investment
in
shelter,
diversion
programming
and
promote
system
transformation
to
address
overcrowding
through
rapid
exit
from
shelter.
In
light
of
this
public
health
crisis.
F
Through
these
interventions,
the
city
is
seeking
to
reduce
rates
of
unsheltered
homelessness,
reduce
the
further
spread
of
covet
19
and
re-house.
Hundreds
of
individuals,
katie
cathill
holloway,
will
provide
more
details
and
how
are
we
spending
the
5
million
that
was
in
in
our
first
esg
cv
grant
and
to
explain
how
we
were
spending
this
23
million
I'll
turn
it
over
to
katie.
Now.
Thank.
H
H
The
item
before
you
is
a
request
to
accept
and
expend
23
million
348
669
dollars
in
emergency
solutions,
grant
cv
funding
from
the
u.s
department
of
housing
and
urban
development.
This
represents
a
second
allocation
of
esg
cv.
Funding
made
to
the
city
and
authorized
by
the
cares
act.
Esg
funding
through
the
cares
act
must
be
used
to
protect
against,
prevent
the
spread
of
and
respond
to,
the
public
health
and
economic
impacts
of
covet
19..
H
I
will
now
provide
the
council
an
update
on
that
rfp
dnd
issued
an
rfp
in
early
may
for
5
million
in
esg
cv
funding.
The
rfp
also
allowed
proposals
for
fy21
projected
coveted
related
expenses
pending
funding,
availability,
dnd
closed
applications
on
july
7th
of
2020,
and
we
received
22
proposals
totaling
over
15
million
in
requests
under
this
procurement
in
an
effort
to
better
coordinate
investments,
d
partnered
with
the
state's
department
of
housing
and
community
development,
the
commonwealth's
esg
cv
grantee
to
review
proposals
from
boston
providers.
H
This
unprecedented
level
of
collaboration
led
to
strategic
investments
and
cost
sharing
between
the
city
and
state
on
proposals
from
boston
providers.
The
cost
sharing
arrangement
largely
resulted
in
the
city
covering
retroactive
expenditures
for
fy20
from
march
through
june
and
dhcd,
covering
prospective
covered
mitigation
costs
for
fy21.
H
Eight
applications
were
jointly
funded
by
dnd
and
dhcd.
Three
applications
were
funded
only
by
dnd.
Four
applications
were
redirected
to
the
boston
resiliency
fund.
Five
applications
were
declined
or
not
prioritized
under
round.
One
and
four
of
the
applications
were
redirected
to
fema
several
proposals,
including
two
from
agencies,
new
to
hud,
homeless
assistance.
Funding
will
be
considered
for
round
two
esg
cv
funding
based
on
the
prioritization
of
rapid
rehousing
in
this
round,
and
the
new
agencies
will
be
provided
with
hud-funded
technical
assistance
that
orients
them
to
the
hud
homeless,
assistance,
landscape
and
requirements.
H
Please
note
that
round
one
is
not
fully
allocated
pending
potential
awards.
After
fema
funding
is
accounted
for
to
date,
two
million
two
hundred
twenty
nine
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
two
dollars
has
been
awarded
to
providers
under
round
one
round.
Two.
The
accept
and
expend
request
before
you
today
is
currently
advertised
for
advertised
for
responses.
Pending
your
approval,
the
goal
of
round
two
is
to
protect
life
during
covet
19.
H
The
rfp
has
allocated
up
to
four
million
dollars
towards
the
creation
of
these
winter
overflow
beds,
recognizing
the
continued
need
to
con
to
deconcentrate
shelter
in
response
to
cobia
19.
We
are
also
prioritizing
an
unprecedented
investment
in
rapid
rehousing
to
re-house
hundreds
of
individuals
and
families
quickly
and
to
keep
shelter
occupancy
at
coveted,
safer
levels.
H
Our
third
priority
for
this
funding
is
scaling
up
diversion
programming
at
the
front
door
of
shelter
to
stem
inflow.
Building
on
successful
models
currently
in
place
at
pine
street
inn
in
vphc
diversion
involves
problem
solving
at
the
front
door
with
people
presenting
for
shelter
to
see
if
a
safe
alternative
to
shelter
is
possible,
the
rfp
allocates
up
to
2
million
towards
diversion
activity.
B
Now,
thank
you
guys
very
much.
I
really
do
appreciate
and
was
unexpected.
It
was.
I
wasn't
expecting
you
to
go
through
the
breakdown
of
the
five
million
dollars
the
applications
thus
far
and
helping
us
to
have
a
real
understanding
of
how
the
money
is
moving
and
helping.
So
I
really
do
appreciate
that.
I'm
going
to
start
questions
from
my
colleagues
and
I'll
just
go
in
order
of
arrival,
so
counselor
braden.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
had
a
quick
question:
the
rapid
rehousing
program.
That
seems
like
a
really
essential
piece
of
the
puzzle.
What
are
the
logistics
involved
with
that.
H
So
rapid
rehousing
is
an
intervention,
a
housing
intervention
that
is
considered
permanent
housing,
but
it
has
a
time
limited
subsidy
associated
with
it,
based
on
the
household's
income.
So,
unlike
something
like
a
section
8
that
is
a
permanent
long-term
subsidy.
Rapid
rehousing
has
the
ability
to
provide
financial
assistance
to
sustain
a
household
for
up
to
24
months
and
paired,
with
rapid
rehousing
our
services
to
ensure
that
the
tenancy
is
stable,
so
households
might
have
access
to
things
like
income,
maximization
or
access
to
benefits
and
just
really
learning
how
to
sustain
a
tenancy.
H
E
C
Thank
you,
council
edwards.
I
may
have
missed
a
little
bit
of
the
opening
statement,
but
I
know
you,
I
know
you've
referenced
a
possible
funding
for
a
veteran's
center
or
location.
Is
that
not
official?
Yet.
H
Oh,
it's
official,
it
is
official,
it
was
an
award
made
to
the
new
england
center
and
home
for
veterans,
and
it
was
for
they
had
proposed
some
space
configuration
changes
and
other
mitigation
strategies
just
to
keep
the
veterans
in
that
location
safe.
So
they
were
awarded
funds
for
that
for
fy21.
C
C
The
other
question
I
had
I
know
you
mentioned
a
provided
for
survivors
of
domestic
violence.
Can
you
give
me
a
little
bit
of
background
information
on
that
on
that
funding.
H
Yeah
sure
so
this
was
a
proposal
from
casa
miarna,
and
they
had
they
had
a
proposal
to
dhcd
and
to
dnd,
and
then
also
they
received
some
funding
from
the
boston
resiliency
fund.
The
portion
that
dnd
sponsored
is
a
piece
of
their
rapid
rehousing
proposal.
H
So
what
cmv
has
had
to
do
like
many
shelter
operators
is
they've
had
to
de-densify
their
their
main
location
and
they've
done
that,
through
leasing
blocks
in
hotels,
to
make
sure
that
if
people
were
presenting
for
shelter,
if
that
the
main
site
wasn't
getting
overcrowded
and
they
had
someplace
safe
to
go
and
from
those
locations,
both
the
auxiliary
hotel
rooms
that
they
leased
up
in
their
main
location,
they
are
looking
to
pair
survivors
with
rapid
rehousing,
and
so
our
award
to
them
was
for
that
rapid
re-housing
funding.
C
That's
excellent.
I
actually
visited
that
location
with
councillor
campbell
on
some
of
the
domestic
violence
outreach
work
we
were
doing
so.
I
know
that
will
be
well
spent
and
and
just
finally,
what
is
some
of
the
outreach
that
you're
doing
in
terms
of
the
the
facilities
with?
Are
you
doing
anything
for
homeless
women
at
all
in
and
around
the
boston
area?
The
downtown
area.
H
Yeah,
I
can
speak
that
to
that
a
bit
and
then
may
rick
and
tim
may
have
more
to
add.
But
I
do
know
that
dnd
recently
completed
the
renovation
of
a
location
at
new
chardon
street
that
will
be
used
soon,
hopefully
to
house
20
women
experiencing
homelessness
with
permanent
supportive
housing.
So
the
building
is
complete.
I
think
they're
in
the
process
of
working
with
the
shelters
to
identify
tenants
for
that
location
and
then
dnd
through
its
coc
vouchers,
will
actually
be
providing
basically
operating
subsidy
to
the
selected
provider
to
run
that
site.
C
Okay
is
that
the
first
is
that
the
facility
across
the
street,
from
the
brook
courthouse
at
woodbrook,
courthouse.
C
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thanks
so
much
again
to
the
dnd
team.
For
that
detailed
update.
I
did
want
to
ask
about
our
overall
shortage
of
beds.
G
I've
heard
the
number
kicking
around
that
because
of
because
of
the
expansion
of
you
know
the
amount
of
space
we
need
per
person
in
our
existing
shelter,
setups
that
were
sort
of
short
about
375
beds
in
the
city
right
now,
and
I
know
that
you
threw
out
the
number
of
I
think
175
to
add,
and
I
just
was
wondering
if
you
could
give
us
an
update
on
kind
of
where
this
is
in
that
landscape.
H
So
the
beds
that
we're
procuring
for
now
are
for
for
winter
overflow
bed,
so
it
would
add
170
bed
capacity
to
the
existing
census.
I
do
know
that
dhcd
opened
their
second
round
of
esg
funding
and
they
prepared
for
something
very
similar
to
what
we're
looking
to
do,
but
they
were
doing
it
on
a
statewide
basis,
but
boston
also
picked
up
beds
through
that
effort,
I
would
have
to
get
the
exact
number
that
boston
providers
have
been
funded
for
in
the
number
of
beds.
G
Okay,
but
you
don't
have
a
sense
or
or
a
gym,
maybe
of
of
kind
of
where
we
are
because
it
just
seems
to
me,
like
you
know,
there'd
be
the
normal
thing
where
we
would
try
to
increase
for
winter
overflow
because
of
the
weather
and
then
there's
the
possibility
that
we're
actually
like
in
the
hole
right
now
anyways,
which
is
certainly
how
it's
been
being
perceived.
I
think
across
the
city,
and
it's
also
what
I've
heard
from
some
folks
in
the
in
the
shelter
at
work.
F
This
is
tim
davis.
We
have
been
maintaining
a
goal
of
keeping
shelter
capacity
at
80
to
90
percent,
and
our
current
performance
is
at
87
of
capacity.
F
So
that's
that's
one
thing
we're
looking
at
and
we've
also
got
targets
around
placing
homeless
individuals
into
permanent
housing
and
placing
homeless,
bps
families
getting
them
vouchers
for
place
in
the
permanent
housing.
Those
are
things
that
we're
tracking
all
the
time
to
make
sure
that
we're
kind
of
staying
in
line
with
our
goals
to
recover
from
covet,
as
well
as
responses.
D
Like
we
had
this
summer
notwithstanding,
I
think
the
hope
is
that
continuing
to
place
some
chronically
homeless
and
long-term
homeless
people
standing
up
those
sites
like
the
comm
ave
location,
the
891
mass
ave
hotel,
where
there's
a
sort
of
intensive
focus
on
housing
placements
will
be
helpful
in
reducing
demand.
And
then
these
rapid
re-housing
resources.
D
We
actually
saw
fewer
people
coming
through
the
shelter
system
during
the
spring,
because
it's
surge,
but
we're
certainly
working
away
at
trying
to
make
sure
there's
a
place
for
everyone
and
but,
as
katie
also
mentioned
statewide.
The
state
put
an
emphasis
on
trying
to
fund
other
communities
to
in
throughout
the
state
to
address
their
own
gaps,
rather
than
have
everything
continue
to
default
to
the
city
of
boston.
So
that's
been
a
big
advocacy
point
as
well
as
bim
and
rick
now,
and
haiti.
G
Great,
and
can
you
just
speak
a
little
or
someone
on
the
team
just
speak
a
little
bit
too.
I
know
that
we
separately
through
the
city
budget
funded
an
expansion
of
kind
of
our
youth
homelessness
efforts
and
that
there's
a
significant,
rapid
re-housing
piece
of
that,
and
I'm
just
wondering
are
we
planning
to
piggyback
on
any
of
that
with
the
esg
funds,
or
are
we
sort
of
keeping
the
dedicated
youth
population
stuff
because
it's
more
flexible
without
hud
money
in
the
city
bailiwick
and
doing
this
separately.
H
So
I
do
know
that
the
the
the
manager
that
is
overseeing
the
youth
plan
they
currently
have
an
rfp
out
for
those
resources,
but
in
our
first
round
awards
we
did
make
an
award
to
bridge
for
an
additional.
I
think
20
20
slots,
I
believe,
of
rapid
rehousing
to
supplement
what
they're
already
awarded
for
through
coc.
H
G
And
then
I
guess
my
last
question
is
I'm
a
big
housing
first
person?
I
think
it's
it's
super
important
for
us
to
be
focused
on
rapid
rehousing
and
you
know
shelter
that
leads
to
permanent
housing.
That
said,
I'm
very
mindful
of
the
fact
that
there
are
a
number
of
people
who
live
in
my
district,
who
I
consider
unhoused
constituents
who
are
you
know,
have
been
long-term
unhoused
and
and
for
various
reasons
like
resist
being
housed.
G
And
you
know,
we've
got
a
really
substantial
set
of
partners,
mostly
on
the
faith-based
side,
downtown
who
work
with
that
community
work
to
make
it
a
community,
and
so
obviously
the
boston
warm
project
comes
to
mind
as
a
major
sort
of
day,
shelter
endeavor,
and
I
think
you
all
know
that
obviously
day
sheltering
has
become
even
more
complicated
and
also
even
more
needed
in
this
time,
because
so
many
of
the
just
you
know
the
informal
day,
shelters
of
of
libraries
and
cafes
and
other
things
are
out
of
reach.
G
And
so
I
just
wonder,
as
we
think
about
all
this
funding,
how
we're
thinking
about
that
piece,
because
I'm
very
concerned
about
folks
who
are
not
sheltered,
having
a
place
to
be
that's
warm
during
the
day
in
the
winter.
That's
also
safe
from
a
cove
perspective
and
also
very
concerned
about
public
accommodation
and
bathroom
access.
So
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
speak
a
little
bit
to
that
piece,
because
I
don't
want
us
to
completely
lose
sight
of
that
in
the
midst
of
focusing,
as
we
should
on
permanent
housing.
D
Maybe
I'll
start
counselor.
Thank
you
for
that
important
question.
You
know
one
of
the
first
things
that
we
did
during
kovid
was
myself
and
jerry.
Thomas
from
the
public
health
commission,
has
reached
out
to
the
smaller
providers
of
community
meal
sites
and
day
programs
in
the
faith
community.
The
majority
of
them
are
downtown,
but
there
are
some
in
other
locations
like
rosie's
place.
As
you
know,
and
you
know,
we've
we've
kept
those
programs
in
the
loop.
D
I
think
the
the
public,
accommodation
and
bathroom
issue
is
a
city-wide
challenge
that
a
coordinated
response
team
of
different
city
agencies
is
really
looking
at.
It
comes
up
time
and
time
again
we
have
asked
those
programs.
I
know
that
boston
warm
received
some
supplemental
funding
with
the
boston
resilience
fund
in
amanda,
grant
rose
their
executive
director
and
I
were
in
contact
and
she
was
urged
to
look
for
those
funds
because
they
were
very
flexible.
D
There
was
another
grant
that
went
to
the
brazilian
workers
alliance
to
help
these
programs
with
intensive
cleaning
so
that
the
programs
that
we're
still
having
people
in
so
some
of
the
faith-based
programs
downtown
have
had
that
support
and
we'll
make.
We
will
certainly
make
sure
that
all
of
the
faith-based
programs
are
aware
of
the
rfp
that
currently
exists.
D
I
know
councilor
edwards,
the
the
east
boston
soup,
kitchen,
that
that
people
with
ties
to
the
soup,
kitchen
and
the
east
boston
neighborhood
health
center
have
participated
in
our
tuesday
kind
of
meetings
about
street
needs,
so
we'll
keep
in
contact
with
those
programs
make
sure
they're
aware
of
all
of
the
additional
resources.
D
We
are
looking
at
adding
some
winter
capacity,
including
beds
for
women
at
boston,
rescue
mission
that
the
state
is
funding,
partly
through
esg
and
partly
through
an
existing
winter
overflow
plan
from
prior
years,
but
but
we'll
stay
connected
and
if
you're
aware
of
any
issues
around
unmet
needs.
I
know
there's
deep
concern
at
the
saint
paul's
cathedral,
mana,
community
and
other
places
about
you
know
how
clients
are
doing
one
of
the
best
things
about
the
kovid
surge.
D
The
pine
street
outreach
team,
which
I
want
to
thank
the
council
for
dedicating
some
additional
city
resources
to
expand,
stayed
connected
with
people
on
the
street,
have
been
continuing
to
place
people
and
refer
people
and
even
provide
some
behavioral
health
supports.
So
people
have
gone
from
the
street
into
some
of
the
motels
and
other
kind
of
temporary
facilities
that
were
set
up
to
deconcentrate
covet.
So
they've
continued
to
do
placements
and
we
continue
to
network
with
those
providers.
G
Great
well,
I'm
very
glad
to
hear
all
that,
but
yeah
and
I'll
definitely
be
in
touch.
I
just
think
I
think
we
have
to
be
thinking
about
daytime
indoor
capacity
for
the
winter
in
the
same
way
that
we're
thinking
about.
What's
our
maybe
overflow
bed
need
capacity,
and
I
just
worry
that
we're
not
there,
and
I
worry
and
I'll
just
say
this-
I
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
the
city
who
are
worried
about
the
bathroom
problem
and
who
are
talking
about
the
bathroom
problem.
G
I
just
feel
like
we
haven't
we're,
not
solving
it
and
I'm
very
concerned
about
how
we
kind
of
confront
that
basic
human
need
downtown
in
a
in
a
speedy
way,
so
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up
here.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
think
those
are
all
my
questions.
A
Sabi
george,
thank
you
ma'am
chair,
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
for
their
thoughtful
questions,
and
I
just
I
do
have
a
couple
of
quick
clarifying
questions
on
the
the
need
for
additional
beds,
especially
planning
for
the
winter.
My
understanding
from
the
conversations
I've
been
involved
in
is
we
need
three
to
four
hundred
additional
beds
for
winter
cold
weather
months.
A
So
I
think
that
that's
an
important
important
number
to
remember
and
then
the
bathroom
issue
that
council
brock
was
just
mentioning.
There
are
some
solutions
on
the
table
right
now
for
at
least
the
mass
and
cass
area
and
some
pretty
aggressive
plans
to
create
some
opportunities
for
additional
restrooms
that
I
think
we
probably
should
discuss
expanding
expanding
those
resources
to
the
downtown
area.
A
But
I
also
want
to
make
sure-
and
I
was
happy
that
katie
mentioned
it
in
her
thorough
comments
and
remarks-
the
need
to
make
sure
that
this
funding
is
also
supporting
our
families
experiencing
homelessness.
As
we
know,
there
are
more
individuals
in
our
families
experiencing
homelessness
than
individuals,
unfortunately
or
fortunately
I
suppose
we
don't
see
them
and
sort
of
witness
the
experience
in
the
same
way.
A
But
I
am
reassured
to
know
that
there's
a
portion
of
this
these
esg
funds,
the
csg
funds-
are
going
to
some
of
our
family
shelter
providers
because
that's
really
important
work
and
down
the
road.
We
know
that
many
of
our
children
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
will
become
homeless
as
adults
and
so
that
work
right
now
is
critically
important.
But
I
don't
know
if
we
could
just
continue
for
a
brief
moment
and
then
I
I
actually
will
sort
of
ask
my
questions
and
then
have
to
depart
for
another
commitment.
A
But
I
am
curious
about
the
three
to
four
hundred
bed
number
as
a
need
for
winter
weather,
shelter.
D
Yeah
so
counselor.
What
I
can
say
is
that
I
think
that
that
is
based
on
prior
year
high,
you
know
extreme
cold
high
numbers,
I
think,
with
the
deconcentrated
system
and
strategy
we
have
now
it's
it's
not
as
clear
that
that
will
be
the
the
winter
number,
but
certainly
the
city
has
been
reaching
out
repeatedly
around
strategies,
and
I
think
I
think
it's
going
to
continue
to
be
an
evolving
picture.
We've
also
been
pushing
the
state
about
increasing
access
and
availability
and
the
public
health
commission.
You
know,
received
a
transportation
grant.
D
D
That's
certainly
going
to
be
a
part
of
this,
so
there's
an
investment
in
you
know,
assessment
and
tria,
front
door,
triage
and
diversion
that's
been
ongoing,
but
certainly
we'll
we'll
keep
the
council
apprised
as
we
are
able
to
identify
additional
winter
overtime
capacity,
hopefully
also
some
of
the
permanent
housing,
the
brighton
marine
veterans,
housing
just
opened.
D
That's
got
a
priority
for
units
for
formerly
homeless
veterans,
so
we're
we're
in
touch
with
all
the
all
the
parties
and
certainly
no
one's
more
concerned
than
the
city
agencies
working
on
homelessness
that
we
have
enough
capacity
for
everyone
to
get
in
this
winter.
There's
additional
planning.
Of
course
that's
going
to
happen
if
there
is,
as
expect
as
predicted,
a
coveted
surge
in
the
winter
months.
A
No
doubt
I
really
do
appreciate
your
work
and
your
your
group's
focus,
especially
on
our
most
vulnerable
residents,
especially
as
we
think
about
the
colder
months
ahead.
A
One
quick
question
about
the
esg
funding
has
you
know
I
know,
there's
always
concerns
around
clarity
on
appropriate
use
and
appropriate
use
has
shifted,
as
additional
funds
have
become
available,
especially
during
this
time
have
we
seen
any
sort
of
new
and
creative
ways
in
which
to
access
that
funds,
also,
being
mindful
that
you
know
when
we,
when
we
do
our
report
and
when
we
eventually
sort
of
participate
in
some
sort
of
audit
that
we've
used
those
funds
appropriately.
F
I'm
trying
to
get
off
here,
the
I
think
the
important
thing
for
us
on
the
cv
funds
is
that
we
have
to
be
tying
it
back
to
responding
to
covid.
F
So
we
do
have
to
be
very
mindful
of
that
in
our
tracking
of
any
expenses
and
or
uses,
and
so
that's
that's
important
for
our
compliance
staff,
which
rick
oversees
them
directly.
But
that's
that's
an
important
thing
for
us
to
take
note
of.
I
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
the
other
requires
in
here.
I
think
the
other
thing
is
chief
dylan
was
also
really
intentional
with
this,
particularly
the
second
round
of
funding
that
we
wanted
this
to
be
really
looking
to.
I
You
know
not
just
add
kind
of
temporary,
not
just
temporarily
respond
to
the
crisis,
but
actually
get
us
set
up
to
be
in
a
better
position
once
well
once
the
pandemic
is
over,
which
you
know,
there's
no
end
in
sight
right
now,
but
which
is
why
we're
focusing
so
much
on
the
funding
on
rapid
rehousing
and
not
just
adding
you
know
temporary
winter
beds,
even
though
that
is
one
of
the
priorities,
so
you
know,
I
think
we
yeah
again
we're
trying
to
just
get
ourselves
bet
and
put
in
a
better
position
going
forward
and
not
just
have
a
kind
of
knee-jerk
reaction.
I
Let's
do
you
know
kind
of
quick
fixes
with
the
funding,
so
I
think
we're
well
positioned.
I'm
not
worried
about
us.
You
know
running
into
any
problems
with
how
we're
using
the
esg
funding
we're.
Looking
at
you
know
all
of
our
funding
sources.
We
always
try
to
make
sure
that
we're
lining
up
the
needs
and
the
uses
with
the
most
appropriate
funding
source.
Some
of
them
have
different
deadlines.
I
Some
of
them
have
different.
You
know
eligibility
criteria,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
using
each
of
all
of
them
appropriately
and
I'll
just
say
quickly.
On
that,
you
know
we
haven't
talked
about.
You
know
homelessness
prevention,
but
that's
you
know
the
esg
funding,
we're
focusing
on
homelessness
and
then
it's
the
cdbg
funding
caresec
funding
that
we're
kind
of
targeting
at
at
homelessness
prevention
and
rent
relief.
B
J
Yes,
thank
you
for
letting
me
the
chair
and
the
sponsors.
I
just
have
a
few
questions.
J
I'm
just
curious
is:
is
this
funding
slowly
going
to
housing,
because
I'm
also
thinking
about
food
access
and
other
short-term
services
that
our
unhoused
populations
face,
and
I'm
just
curious
as
to
whether
or
not
there's
an
opportunity
for
that?
I'm
also
curious.
I
know
that
a
counselor
bach
asked
a
question
in
terms
of
engaging
community
nonprofit
partners.
So
I'm
glad
that
was
addressed,
but
I
do
want
to
add
another
layer
to
that
and
I'm
just
curious.
J
You
know
we
hear
from
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
on
houzz
who
don't
have
access
to
the
internet,
who
don't
have
access
to
mobile
phones
or
smartphones
or
they're,
not
even
connected
to
non-profit
organizations.
So
you
know
I've
been
hearing
from
folks
about
the
level
of
engagement
for
that
population
and
I'm
just
curious
about
how
we're
tapping
into
those
who
are
in
greatest
need,
but
have
absolutely
no
way
of
connecting
and
I'm
just
curious
about.
J
How
are
we
connecting
with
individuals
and
families
experiencing
homelessness,
either
directly
or
through
advocacy
groups
to
survey
their
needs
like
what
that
level
of
engagement
looks
like
and,
as
always,
you
know,
I'm
going
to
ask
about
language
access,
because
a
public
hearing
or
a
conversation
without
me
asking
the
question
about:
are
things
in
multiple
languages?
I'm
just
curious
about
that
level
of
engagement.
J
So
those
are
just
the
few
things
that
I
have
and
thank
you,
chairwoman,
counselor
edwards
for.
H
Hosting
okay,
I
think
I
can
start
with
the
the
food
access
question,
so
the
funding
that
we
put
out
it's
emergency
solutions,
grant
funding
through
hud,
and
so
there
are
eligible
activities
sort
of
within
the
broad
buckets
that
I
talked
about.
Food
access
is
in
terms
of
eligibility.
H
H
And
then
jim,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
talk
about
the
engagement
question
on
outreach
for
people
that
don't
have
access
to
tech.
D
D
Georgia
knows
there
are
many
more
than
that,
with
vouchers
for
families
that
are
trying
to
be
placed
out
of
the
system,
but
there
are
representatives
from
the
consumer
advocacy
boards
that
have
been
engaged
with
us
at
the
city
on
in
that
initiative
they
have
access
and,
for
example,
there
are
people
connected
to
the
boston,
healthcare
for
the
homeless,
consumer
advisory
board,
etc.
D
There
are
also
there
have
continued
to
be
at
times
I
think,
town
meetings
in
some
of
the
shelters
and
then
our
outreach
programs,
the
public
health
commission's
engagement
center,
the
additional
outreach
workers
that
cover
the
mass
ave
melania
cast
area,
though
certainly
the
pine
street
outreach
teams
victory
programs.
Everyone
is
in
constant
kind
of
engagement
and
assessment
with
constituents
really
directly
conversationally
about
addressing
their
needs,
and
then
they
try
to
kind
of
problem
solve
and
workshop
those
across
the
the
programs
that
have
access.
D
So
I
think
that's,
but
those
are
important
considerations
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
information
is
made
available
to
people
and
communicated
to
them
directly
is
really
critically
important.
I
think
that
the
you
know
the
the
language
access
issue
is
certainly
something
we're.
Mindful
of
we've
asked
pine
street
into
prioritizing
expanding
their
street
outreach
to
to
hire
staff
who
are
both
culturally
competent
and
bilingual
whenever
possible.
D
That's
really
critically
important,
so
you
know
I.
I
think
that
there's
you
know
multilingual
capacity
at
the
person-to-person
level
among
most
of
our
providers,
but
the
points
are
really
well
taken
that
we
want
to
be
sure
we
get
information
out.
You
know
to
people
in
a
way
that's
most
accessible
and
available
to
them.
J
Thank
you
for
that
jim.
I
just
want
to
quickly
follow
up
on
something
in
regards
to
those
who
are
undocumented
just
wanted
to
know
what
special
efforts
are
being
made.
I
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
right
now
who
are
worried
about
what's
coming
down
the
pipeline,
many
haven't
been
unable
to
work,
and
I'm
just
curious
what,
if
efforts,
if
any,
are
being
made
specifically
to
help
support
our
undocumented
residents,
sure.
H
H
H
So
we
are
very
mindful
of
that,
and
we
really
you
know,
appreciate
the
fact
that
we
have
the
the
resources
that
we
do
have
to
serve
this
population,
because
I
think
more
than
most
populations.
This
is
a
particularly
scary
time,
both
from
a
health
perspective
and
an
economic
peril
perspective,
and
so
we
do
have
resources
in
the
portfolio
that
can
go
to
support
members
of
that
community.
J
That's
great,
thank
you
so
much
for
that,
and
one
last
thing
I
just
want
to
say
that
tim
and
jim,
you
guys
kind
of
look
alike
and
it's
kind
of
weird.
Looking
at
the
situation
on
my
on
my
screen,
but
that's
all
I
have
council
edwards,
then
I
won't
be
able
to
stay
on
past
11
and
I
have
another
commitment,
but
I'm
very
happy
to
stay
on
until
then
and
continue
to
listen
and
learn.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
I
just
had
some
follow-up
questions.
I
one
I
just
want
to
make
with
regards
to
the
23
million
dollars
is
any
of
it
going
to
the
for
ohs.
Is
it
any
of
it
funneling
to
the
ohs's
rental
assistance
program,
specifically
targeted
for
homeless
folks,
or
is
that
completely
different
funding.
I
That's
that's
different
funding
counselor
so
that
yeah
that
that's
what
we're
the
way
we've
kind
of
divided
it
up.
Esg
is
around
homelessness.
The
cdbg
is
what
we're
kind
of
targeting
and
that
we
have
20
million
dollars
in
cdbg
that
we're
I'm
kind
of
reserving
and
have
committed
5
million
of
that
already
to
rent
relief.
B
B
B
Is
this
not
really
helping
those
folks.
I
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
so
I
can
say
that
again,
you
know
the
esg
funding
we
aren't
where
we're
not
targeting
for
those
purposes.
Some
of
that
activity
would
be
eligible
and
we're
not
we're
not
kind
of
prohibiting
entities
from
from
submitting
applications
for
that
funding.
But
it's
not
the
priority
for
this
funding.
I
The
cdbg
funding
is
where,
where
the
cdbg
cv
funding
is
where
we
are
kind
of
we're
targeting
that
funding
at
both
the
rent
relief
fund-
and
you
also
have
heard
about
you-
know-
enhanced
the
housing
court
navigator
and
and
as
well
as
legal
assistance,
outreach,
the
city
council
and
the
mayor
provided
additional
funding
in
this
year's
budget
for
housing
stability
initiatives,
including
greater
outreach
mailings
in
multiple
languages
around
tenant
rights,
particularly
right
now,
I
think
people
are
confused
and
concerned
about.
I
You
know
how
the
what
the
moratorium
means
and
what
it
means
when
it
ends
so
where
actually
that's
in
the
works
right
now,
the
a
large
mailing
should
be
going
out,
or
maybe
it
has
gone
out-
I'm
I'm
not
sure,
but
but
yeah.
That's
not
not.
It's
not
part
of
the
funding.
That's
before
you
today.
B
Okay
and
then
I'm
curious
about
the
the
tax-
I
don't
know
if
you
recall
a
couple
years
ago,
when
we
did
the
airbnb
ordinance,
there
was
a
certain.
I
think
certain
percent
could
stay
with
the
city
30
to
and
the
city
decided
that
that
percentage
of
funding
would
go
to
homelessness.
B
If
you
don't
have
it
now,
I
would
eventually
like
and
to
get
an
update
on
if
there's
been
any
funding.
I
know
airbnb
has
been
dead
for
the
most
part
this
year,
but
I
am
I'm
hopeful
that
that
hotel
expanded
hotel
tax
category
for
for
homelessness.
I
I'm
I
would
love
to
hear
how
that
has
helped
or
hurt
or
anything,
and
then
my
only
ques.
My
final
question
is
for
for
jim.
Are
we
gonna
have
a
homeless
census
this
year
or
what.
D
So
counselor
that's
actually
unclear,
and
certainly
if
we
do
have
one,
we
cannot
conduct
it
in
the
ways
that
we
have
in
the
past.
There's
no
way
we
could
gather.
You
know
350
to
400
people
at
city
hall
and
fan
out.
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
advocacy,
katie's
wear
this
with
hud.
D
You
know
many
communities
do
this
street
count
every
other
year.
We've
done
one.
As
you
know,
annually
for
40
years.
I
I've
done
most
of
them,
which
is
why,
for
councillor
maria's
point,
why
tim
should
be
flattered
that
we
look
alike,
I've
gone
old
and
gray,
doing
the
homeless
census,
but
the
you
know,
whatever
we
do
for
this
winter,
we
are
certainly
going
to
be
tracking
the
populations
that
are
unhoused
and
engaging
them
with
the
public
health
commission
with
pine
street
with
our
other
providers.
D
So,
but
I
think
the
the
national
advocacy
trend-
katie,
maybe
you
can
weigh
in
is-
is
recommending
that
this
potentially
be
an
off
year,
particularly
if
there's
a
winter
covet
surge.
H
Yeah
you're
right
jim
I
mean,
and
that
that's
what
I
have
heard
they
haven't
made
a
final
determination
on
whether
or
not
unsheltered
counts
will
will
be
required
this
year.
But,
as
you
said,
many
communities
do
it
biannually,
so
we've
certainly
met
the
requirement
in
terms
of
having
done
our
account
earlier
this
year.
H
I
do
expect
that
they
will
hold
on
to
the
requirement
of
a
sheltered
count
which,
which
is
separate
from
the
big
event
at
city
hall,
but
important
nonetheless,
so
there'll
be
a
count
of
some
sort,
but
I
don't
know
that,
as
jim
said,
it
will
look
very
differently
if
it
happens
at
all.
On
the
unsheltered
side.
B
Well,
I
can.
I
can
speak
up
for
myself,
I'm
sure
for
my
other
colleagues
that
are
at
large
and
district
councillors
that
if
you
need
any
help
in
designing
a
mini
district
based
program
that
either
assists
or
feeds
in
and
isn't
as
expansive,
I
would
love
to
be
part
of
that
and
helping
to
recruit
volunteers
for
just
east
boston,
recruit
volunteers,
for
in
charlestown
and
in
the
north
end
that
you
know
I
would
love
to
be
a
part
of
it.
I
I
look
forward
to
it.
B
B
It
was
like
negative
seven
and
that's
when
I
found
more
homeless
people
than
I
ever
did
in
the
other
two
years
that
I'd
done
it,
and
so
it
just
it
brings
people
to
rem
to
to
see
face
to
face
what
we're
what
we're
dealing
with,
and
I
really
hope
that
there's
a
way
in
which
boston
can
design
a
program
that
still
brings
us
face
to
face
with
our
most
vulnerable
constituents
and-
and
I
think
I
really
appreciate
your
leadership,
and
that
is
really
I'm
hopeful.
We
can
come
up
with
a
way.
D
I
appreciate
that
council
edwards,
and
you
know
whether
hud
requires
it
or
not.
We
certainly
would
be
happy
to
work
with
the
council
and
our
other
provider
partners,
because
I
agree
with
you.
It's
a
it's.
A
moment
of
you
know
hard
work
at
an
unusual
hour,
but
also
heightened
awareness
of
a
a
city
responding
to
our
most
vulnerable
neighbors
in
need.
So
please
do
keep
in
touch
counselor.
Could
I
just
add
a
counselor
back
to
your
question
about
the
community
meal
sites.
D
I
did
want
to
mention
that
which
I
forgot
to
that.
We've
been
very
engaged
with
the
women's
lunch
place
which,
as
you
know,
had
to
kind
of
convert
to
meals
to
go
and
healthy
meals,
they've
maintained
their
advocacy
operations,
but
we
have
been
working
with
them
to
try
to
look
at
possibilities
and
options
this
winter,
including
some
conversations
with
the
faith
community
downtown,
but
I
wanted
to
I
did
want
to
men.
D
I
forgot
to
mention
them
earlier,
but
we've
been
in
touch
with
their
leadership
team
and
continue
to
try
to
crack
them
out
of
places
to
help
more
vulnerable
women
access
services
indoors.
So
we'll
certainly
keep
in
touch
if,
as
things
emerge,.
I
If
you,
if
you
do
on
the
on
the
room,
occupancy
text,
that
was
the
the
ordinance
that
changed
around
it
wasn't,
you
know
sort
of
technically
tied
to
airbnb,
but
that's
kind
of
what
precipitated
the
the
change
and
I'm
glad
to
say
that
both
in
fy20
and
fy21
dnd's
budget
did
includitional
funding.
I
think
it
was
five
million
nfy
20
and
formally
in
enough
y21.
I
That
was
you
know
it's
not
sort
of
directly
tied.
I
guess
to
that
funding,
but
but
that
was
the
you
know,
kind
of
where
it
came
from
and
it
was
despite
the
kind
of
impacts
on
the
on
the
hotel
and
lodging
industry
because
of
kovid.
We
were
very
happy
that
that
funding
was
prioritized
and
was
not
and
it
was
maintained
in
out
in
our
budget
and
for
the
funding
that
we've
received
so
far.
I
Most
of
it
has
been
allocated
to
permanent
supportive
housing,
specifically
the
pine
street
m
project
on
washington
street
in
jp,
which
is
you
know,
huge,
it's
a
huge
project,
and
hopefully
that
can
that
can
move
forward
and-
and
we
were
happy
to
get
that
funding
and
be
able
to
use
it
for
that
purpose.
B
Thank
you
that
was.
I
really
appreciate
that
that
update
to
my
colleagues,
unless
there
are
any
further
questions.
F
B
So
with
that,
unless
there's
any
more
remarks,
I'm
gonna
I
clap
out.
As
I
end
the
hearing.