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Dockets #0453-0456,0472 - Grant appropriations from the United States Department of Housing & Urban Development to fund Community and Economic Development Programs, creation of affordable housing, rental assistance and services for Persons with HIV/AIDS, housing stability and prevention of homelessness, and support programs that provide services and housing to the homeless
A
Good
morning,
excuse
me
good
afternoon:
my
name
is
uh
lydia
edwards,
I'm
chair
of
the
committee
on
housing
and
development.
In
accordance
with
governor
baker's
march
12
2020
executive
order
modifying
open
meeting
laws.
We
are
having
this
hearing
on
zoom.
This
allows
the
city
council
to
carry
out
its
responsibilities
while
adhering
to
public
health
recommendations.
A
This
is
a
public
hearing
and
it
can
be
recorded
and
live
streamed
on
www.austin.gov,
slash
city
dash,
council
dash
tv.
It
will
be
also
rebroadcast
at
a
later
date
on
xfinity,
8,
rcn82
and
fios
964..
Anyone
that
would
like
to
testify
on
this
matter.
Please
email,
juan
dot
lopez,
it's
j-u-a-n-l-o-p-e-z
at
boston.gov
for
the
zoom
link.
Again,
the
today's
hearing
is
on
several
dockets
docket
zero.
Four
five
three
is
for
17
million
dollars
a
cdbg
grant
um
docket
zero.
A
Four
five
four
is
for
a
little
over
close
to
six
million
dollars,
and
that
is
a
ped
grant
to
be
described
a
little
bit
later,
zero.
Four
five
five
is
a
3.2
million
dollar
grant
to
for
housing
with
persons
with
aids
and
zero.
Excuse
me:
zero.
Four.
Five
six
is
a
grant
for
one
point,
four
million
dollars
and
it
is
with
regards
to
emergency
solutions,
grants
or
esg
grants
for
hud
and
zero.
A
Four
seven
two
is
a
grant
for
38
million
dollars,
and
these
funds
will
be
used
to
support
programs
for
services
and
housing
to
the
homeless.
Again,
I
am
going
to
turn
this
shortly
over
to
the
administration
just
wanted
to
introduce
my
colleagues
who
are
here
today.
We
have
councillor
flynn
from
district
2,
counselor
julie,
mejia,
who
is
at
large
and
counselor
bach
from
district
8..
Have
I
gotten
all
of
the
counselors
so
far?
A
B
B
Also
with
us
today
for
questions,
we
have
jessica,
boatwright,
a
deputy
director
at
dnd
for
neighborhood
housing,
maureen
flynn,
deputy
director
for
the
boston
home
center
rick
wilson,
deputy
director
for
a
f
katie
ford
assistant
deputy.
I
mean
acting
deputy
director
for
office
of
housing,
disability
uh
and
jim
green,
who
also
works
with
our
homelessness
programs,
so
we
have
and
and
lyla.
Of
course,
I've
already
mentioned.
So
we
have
a
full
team
here
from
the
department
of
development
for
any
questions,
then
I
will
proceed
from
there.
B
B
I
will
speak
briefly
about
our
annual
allocations
for
the
city's
2022
fiscal
year,
which
begins
on
20
on
july
1,
providing
highlights
from
the
fact
sheets
that
you
have
before
you.
I
will
speak
about
the
alex
our
annual
allocations.
First
boston
will
receive
about
28.1
million
from
hud
for
these
annual
allocations.
B
Community
development
block
grant
funds,
home
investment
partnerships
program,
housing
opportunities
for
persons
with
aids
known
as
hopwa,
and
the
emergency
solutions
grants
which
is
known
as
esg
cdbg
funding
was
basically
flat
from
last
year.
To
this
year,
the
home
allocation
is
1.5
percent.
Greater
than
last
year,
the
hopwa
allocation
increased
5.1
percent
from
last
year
and
is
the
primary
source
for
our
overall
increase
in
hud
funding
and
our
esg
allocation
declined
1.3
percent
from
last
year,
but
just
a
note
on
our
funding.
B
These
are
all
funds
that
were
in
the
consolidated
appropriations
act
that
was
at
the
very
start
of
this
calendar
year,
so
it
fell
under
the
previous
administration,
so
biden's
current
budget
would
be
for
our
next
year's
funding
prior
to
putting
together
our
federal
spending
plan
each
year
or
action
plan.
A
public
meeting
must
be
held
to
gather
input
on
how
best
to
spend
our
federal
resources.
B
This
meeting
was
held
on
march
10th.
Our
next
step
is
to
issue
a
draft
plan
and
hold
a
second
virtual
citywide
public
meeting
to
get
feedback
on
the
draft
plan.
This
draft
action
plan
will
be
released
after
the
citywide
budget
proposal
is
released
tomorrow
and
the
second
virtual
citywide
hearing
will
be
held
on
april
27th.
B
Cdbg
funds
also
support
our
economic
development,
public
service
and
property
management
programs,
including
2.7
million
dollars
for
the
mayor's
office
of
workforce
development,
and
about
four
million
dollars
to
the
office
of
economic
development,
which
supports
main
streets
districts
and
small
businesses
for
hopwa.
The
city
will
receive
3.2
million
dollars
in
helpful
funding.
This
5.1
percent
increase
will
be
dedicated,
will
be
decided
once
how
that
will
be
used.
B
Okay,
that's
right!
Okay!
That's
like
that's
fine!
That's
fine!
um
Just
a
little
confusion
there.
In
addition
to
the
sources
detailed
above,
the
city
will
receive
38
million
685
thousand
dollars
through
hud's
continuum
of
care
program.
This
money
represents
an
increase
of
10
million
over
the
amount
awarded
under
the
2019
competition.
B
The
sizeable
increase
is
attributable
to
two
factors:
over
2.5
million
in
youth,
specific
program
resources
were
added
to
the
coc
program
and
increases
in
fair
market
rents
were
awarded
after
two
years
without
receiving
these.
The
coc
program
is
hud's
largest
source
of
funding
support
the
city's
homeless
response
system.
B
Renewal
of
this
funding
will
allow
existing
nonprofits
to
provide
ongoing
housing
and
stabilization
support
to
vulnerable
populations,
impacted
by
homelessness
and
is
disproportionately
affected
by
covid19.
So
now
I
will
turn
it
over
to
trenwyn
from
office
of
workforce
development
to
speak
briefly
about
their
programs.
D
D
D
D
As
tim
stated
in
the
spring
of
2019,
we
issued
two
open
and
competitive
requests
for
proposals,
solid
soliciting
grants
for
programs
to
use
cdbg
funds
to
promote
economic
mobility
for
boston
residents
and
the
two
rfps
received
a
total
of
28
responses,
requesting
3.9
million
in
funding
for
2020
owd
recommended
20
49
organizations
for
a
total
of
two
million.
Two
hundred
sixty
eight
thousand
five
hundred
to
provide
critical
employment,
education
and
economic
services
to
over
four
thousand
low-income
boston
residents
with
a
range
of
services,
including
job
training
and
readiness,
use,
programming,
esol
and
benefit.
D
The
funding
for
these
programs
allow
us
to
fill
in
the
gaps
left
by
the
state's
adult
basic
education
programs,
and
we
prioritize
these
classes
and
seats
that
offer
contextualized
job
specific
esol
with
pathways
into
employment
for
low-income
boston
residents
to
continue
the
city's
commitment
to
equitable
economic
development.
Our
grant-making
principles
this
year
were
largely
the
same
as
the
previous
years
requiring
partners
to
build
programs
leading
to
their
employment,
job
training
or
post-secondary
education
and
economic
security
for
residents.
D
Fy21
is
the
second
year
of
our
two-year
funding
cycle,
limited
of
programs
funded
in
fy,
20
and
refunding
contingent
upon
the
availability
of
federal
funds,
satisfactory
program,
performance
outcomes
and
responsive
refunding
applications,
and
with
this
year's
continued
funding,
a
refunding
app
application
document
was
issued
on
march.
The
20th
and
responses
were
due
on
march,
the
first
may,
the
first
historically,
the
vast
majority
of
funded
programs
have
both
performed
well
enough
and
submitted
responsive
refunding
applications
to
the
level
funded
for
a
second
consecutive
year.
D
D
E
E
I'm
mostly
here
to
answer
questions,
but
I
do
want
to
talk
briefly
about
the
programming
dollars
that
we
have
through
the
hud
cdbg
funding,
as
well
as
obviously
um
talking
just
briefly
about
the
team
um
and
how
these
funds
help
to
support
the
team
um
so
of
the
total
amount
that
tim
mentioned.
Previously,
we
offer
about
2.4
million
dollars
in
direct
programming
assistance
through
three
different
programs,
the
first
being
the
boston
main
streets
program
which
supports
20,
individual
nonprofit
organizations
in
boston's,
residential
neighborhood,
commercial
districts.
E
E
These
funds
are
essential
to
the
the
ability
of
our
office
to
conduct
any
support
and
programming
for
small
businesses,
um
and
uh
you
know
it
supports
not
only
um
small
businesses
but
the
entire.
Almost
the
whole
team,
um
that's
on
on
the
ground
working
directly
to
support
small
businesses
in
our
neighborhood
commercial
districts.
E
um
Karzak
funding
and
um
direct
collaboration
with
uh
hud
during
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic
um
really
helped
us
establish
a
strategy
for
support
during
these
tough
those
tough
months
and
will
continue
to
be
a
huge
resource
as
we
move
forward
uh
with
our
uh
city's
recovery,
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
and
elaborate
on
any
pieces
of
what
I
just
covered.
Thanks.
B
F
F
G
So
yes,
um
so
chinatown
is
included
in
the
downtown
boston
numbers.
In
addition,
we
have
a
very
strong
partnership
and
a
contract
with
aaca
which,
as
you
know,
is
based
in
chinatown
and
we've
also
awarded
them
a
contract
that
includes
what's
called
flexible
financial
assistance,
so
they
can
also
serve
that
population.
So,
in
addition
to
receiving
rental
relief
funds
um
for
that
neighborhood,
they
also
can
process
up
to
2500
grants
per
household
to
um
to
tenants
in
that
neighborhood.
F
H
F
And
the
other
question
I
had
is
south
boston,
I
know,
was
very
very
low
on
the
on
the
percentage
at
0.79.
I
thought
I
thought
I've
read.
um
South
boston
is
not
a
wealthy
community.
It's
a
it's!
It's
a
community
of
people
that
are
struggling
struggling
to
pay
bills
and
barely
making
it
I'm
looking
at
people
going
to
the
store
and
they're
buying
a
can
of
campbell's
soup
and
they're.
Looking
at
the
campbell's
soup
for
a
dollar
58
and
the
company
had
changed
to
see
if
they
have
enough
money
for
a
can
of
soup.
F
B
So
so
I
I
thank
you
katie
for
that
uh
answer,
but
I'm
realizing
that
counselor
finn
you're
looking
at
the
fact
sheet
on
the
um
on
the
coc
program,
so
maybe
lily
you
can
speak
to
that,
because
these
are
specifically
for
tenant-based
rental
assistance
for
those
who
have
experienced
homelessness.
So
this
is
not
the
rental
relief
program,
that's
ongoing.
Now
this
is
our
kind
of
more
historical
programming
around
addressing
homelessness.
So
those
numbers
I'm
now
realizing
those
are
the
numbers
that
you're
looking
at
counselor
flynn
um
and
uh
so
maybe
lila.
C
Yeah
um
I
mean
I,
I
think
this
is
really
a
reflection
of
where
um
people
who
have
this
particular
type
of
voucher
either
are
finding
apartments
to
rent
or
that
we
have
project-based
rental
assistance.
Essentially,
so
it's
it's
a
reflection
more
of
where
those
programs
are
located
and
where,
where
people
have
found
apartments,
it's
not
a
reflection
of
you
know,
residents
from
particular
neighborhoods,
so
there
may
be
people
who
are
now
leased
up
in
roxbury
but
um
originated
from
hyde
park,
or
um
so
it's
really
not
about
serving
particular
um
resident.
F
Yeah
thank
thank
you
lila.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
my
my
just.
My
district
receives
equal
equal
share
of
the
of
the
part
of
funding
as
other
as
other
districts
do
I
I
wouldn't
be
doing
my
job.
If
I
didn't
advocate
for
my
district
and
you
know,
south
boston
is
0.79,
I
I
don't.
I
don't
I'm
not
able
to
really
look
at
the
numbers
in
chinatown,
so
um
so
I
you
know,
I'm
focused
on
my
my
district
and
I
need
to
make
sure
my
district
is
in
included
in
this.
B
Certainly,
certainly,
and
what
we'll
follow
up
is
to
make
sure
you
have
the
most
recent
data
from
the
current
rental
relay
funds,
which
is
you
know
the
newer
program
um
and
we
do
have.
We
did
provide
data
to
the
city
council
earlier
in
march,
but
we
can
certainly
provide
an
update
of
that
with
um
with
zip
codes,
so
you
can
us
clearly
see
which
ones
are
coming
from
chinatown
and
from
south
boston,
etc.
We
can
certainly
do
that.
Thank.
F
A
Point
of
clarification
just
to
make
sure
I'm
clear
what
leila
just
mentioned.
Is
it's
not
um
so
much
what's
being
spent
in
each
per
person
in
each
district?
It's
where
if
they
happen
to
be
housed
after
being
homeless
in
south
boston?
That's
where
the
money
goes,
but,
for
example,
it
could
be
that
a
lot
of
kids
from
south
boston
happened
to
find
housing
in
east
boston
and
therefore
the
money
kind
of
followed
them
there.
But
it's
not
it's
not
that
neighborhood
specific
it's
where
the,
where
they
managed
to
find
housing.
Correct,
that's
right!
F
B
F
Okay,
I
I
would
just
like
to
make
sure
we
do
some
outreach
on
veterans
housing
as
well.
That's
a
that's
an
important
issue
in
the
city.
um
I
don't
want
us
to
drop
the
ball
on
not
building
any
more
or
funding
anymore,
veteran
housing.
That's
that's
important
to
my
district.
It's
important
to
the
city,
especially
it's
important
to
veterans,
so
I
just
I
just
would
like
to
ask
dnd
in
the
mayor's
office
to
work
with
us
on
outreach
on
veterans
housing.
um
Thank
you
guys.
I
Yes
good
afternoon,
thank
you
for
hosting
um
I
love
going
after
flynn
because
he's
been
going
in
on
all
things
that
deal
with
um
our
people.
So
thank
you
so
much
councillor
flynn
for
for
fighting
so
hard,
specifically
for
south
boston,
because
there
is
the
solution
that
um
south
boston
is
well
off,
but
I
do
know
that
that's
not
the
case,
and
so
I
really
do
appreciate
your
advocacy
in
that
space.
I
I
um
Is
there
a
way
for
us
to
utilize
these
funds
to
be
able
to,
at
the
very
least
their
first
year
upon
completing
college
that
they
can
still
live
with
their
parents
um
for
at
least
one
more
year
without
it
impacting
the
financial
income
brackets?
So
I
I
don't
know
tim
if
this
makes
sense
or
if
someone
from
bha
but
I'll
just
give
you
my
own
personal
example.
I
grew
up
my
mom
had
a
section
8
voucher.
Whenever
you
know
I
would,
if
I
had.
I
If
I
worked,
or
if
there
was
any
income,
we
would
have
to
report
it
and
that
would
change
the
amount
of
rent
we
would
have
to
pay.
Obviously,
those
are
state
and
federal
guidelines,
but
I'm
curious
what
opportunities
exist
for
students
who
who
are
low
income,
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
use
some
of
these
funds
to
subsidize
at
least
our
boston
housing
authority
students
to
be
able
to
stay
within
the
lease
under
under
housing
a
year
after
they
graduate
without
it
impacting
the
financial
um
costs?
I
I
don't
know
if
that
all
makes
sense,
but
it
was
a
question
that
came
up.
It's
an
issue
that
I
think
if
we
can
tackle
it
through
some
of
these
grants
that
are
available.
Even
if
we
create
a
small
pilot
for
a
small
subset
of
bha
residents
who
are
coming
back
from
college,
they
can
stay
within
the
lease
without
in
it
impacting
the
financial
um
income
of
the
whole
household.
A
So,
just
to
be
just
to
be
uh
to
kind
of
redirect
and
also
kind
of
silo
a
little
bit
of
this
conversation
um
there.
I
don't
know
that
anyone
from
bha
is
on
right
now
um
to
discuss
how
they
assess
income
or
what
ways
in
which
they
would
re-assess
income
depending
on
if
a
child
goes
to
work
for
the
entire
family,
so
I
don't
believe
we
can
speak
to
that
assessment.
That
particular
issue
in
terms
of
the
um
supports
for
folks
who
are
currently
receiving
um
aid
uh
from
the
or
period
who
are
on
vouchers.
A
I
don't
know
I
think
you
had
mentioned
someone.
I
mentioned
possibly
additional
support
to
the
city
voucher
program,
if
anyone
if
they
want
to
discuss
it
or
if
any
of
the
funding
is
going
to
the
city
voucher
program,
but
I
know
you
would
only
mention
the
increase
in
the
fmr.
Am
I
correct?
Excuse
me,
yeah
the
fair
market
rents
allowed
under.
B
A
And
that
so
because
these
are
grant
specific
counselor
mejia
and
a
lot
of
the
applications
and
standards
of
the
grants
are
set,
uh
not
by
bha
and
not
by
city
council
or
not
by
the
folks
who
are
on
today.
um
I
I'm
happy
to
follow
up
specifically
with
bha,
who
is
comes
under
this
committee
um
on
specifically
how
we
can
make
sure
that
their
income
guidelines
don't
push
people
or
maintain
them
into
poverty.
But
um
do
you
have
a
specific
question
on
any
other
thing,
so.
I
I
I
appreciate
that
redirecting
sometimes
I
I
do
need
it
and
I
I
appreciate
it.
um
I
am
curious,
though,
let's
just
take
bha
out
of
the
conversation,
then
how
can
we
utilize
some
of
these
grants,
if
at
all
possible
to
help
support
um
boston,
low-income
college
students
in
their
housing
journey
so
that
they
don't
end
up
homeless?
How
about
that
perfect.
B
B
C
That's
right,
so
there
is
funding
in
this
large
grant
that
we're
talking
about
that
transferred
from
a
separate
hud
funding.
uh
Hud-Funded
grant
called
the
youth
homelessness
demonstration
project.
That's
now
folded
into
the
continuum
of
care
grant,
and
so
that
funding
is
specifically
to
end
homelessness
among
youth
and
young
adults.
C
It
is
primarily
focused
on
youth
and
young
adults
who
are
already
experiencing
homelessness,
but
what
I,
but
I
will
say,
is
that
there
are
some
city
funds
now
that
are
going
to
um
young
adults
that
are
a
little
bit
broader
and
are
helping
young
adults
kind
of
avoid
homelessness.
If
they're
on
the
on
the
verge
of
that-
um
and
so
we
can
send
information
um
right,
you
know
to
the
council
as
a
follow-up
around
how
to
access
that
program.
um
It's
one
of
the
programs
I'm
referring
to
is
called
the
youth
flex.
I
Wow,
so
thank
you
so
very
much
for
that,
because
sometimes
you
guys
already
resolve
the
problems
and
we
don't
know
about
them.
um
The
solutions
to
these
amazing
problems
have
already
been
resolved
by
you
all.
So
it's
good
so
the
next
time
somebody
rolls
up
on
me.
I
actually
can
say
go
here,
because
we
actually
have
a
solution
for
that.
I
I
did
not
know
that
that
exists
and
I'm
just
curious
about
um
how
many
dollars
are
allotted.
C
Yeah,
so
um
I
don't
have
the
the
total
amount
in
my
in
my
head,
so
we
can
definitely
get
that
to
you.
It
isn't
um
it
isn't
a
huge
program.
So
it's
not
like
um
it
sustains
long-term
vouchers
for
young
people,
but
it
is
some
startup
costs
for
for
young
people
to
get
into
housing,
um
and
we
can
get
you
the
information
about
exactly
how
young
people
access
it
and
who's
eligible
and
and
the
total
cost
of
the
grant
as
well.
I
Thank
you
for
that,
and
I
think
um
the
last
thing
that
I'll
say
to
that
point-
and
I
do
appreciate
council
edwards
for
always
redirecting
me-
um
is
that
I
think
there
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
um
have
a
conversation
with
the
bha
folks
and
your
department
and
your
people,
because
there
is
a
nice
intersection
in
terms
of
how
we
support
young
people
who
are
in
public
housing
around
this
journey.
So
maybe
the
next
round
of
waves
of
of
support
grants.
I
C
Yes,
so
um
the
the
one
that
comes
to
mind-
and
there
may
be
more
but
the
one
that
I've
heard
of
um
recently
that
got
off
the
ground
is
um
being
run
by
bagley
and
they're,
working
on
host
homes
for
young
people
who
identify
as
lgbtq
um
and
it's
a
model
that
is
new
to
the
city.
um
But
it's
working
to
make
sure
young
adults
have
a
stable
place
to
to
live
with
community
members
and
have
somewhere
to
be
as
they're
gaining
footing
in
education
or
employment
or
or
otherwise.
J
Thanks
so
much
um
and
uh
just
a
talent
on
that,
my
understanding
is
that
some
d
d
folks
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
that
some
of
the
youth
homelessness
money
that
was
in
the
budget
last
year,
including
some
of
the
reallocation,
was
targeted
in
particular
at
the
fact
that
a
lot
of
these
federal
funds
require
us
to
work
with
youth
who
are
sort
of
meet
that
literal
definition
of
homeless,
in
like
a
kind
of
certified
or
in
shelter,
etc.
Way.
J
And
my
impression
is
that
some
of
that
city-specific
money
was
allowing
us
to
serve
young
people
who
are
doubled
up
because
we
know
a
lot
of
young
people,
and
I
think
this
is
part
of
the
population
counselor.
He
is
talking
about
kind
of
bounce
around
and
find
themselves
in
these
unstable
housing
situations,
and
yet
they're
not
checked
into
shelter.
So
they
can't.
C
That
classification
is
correct,
that
the
the
city
funding
is
is
more,
fun,
is
more
flexible
and
hud
does
have
a
very
specific
definition
about
who
is
considered,
homeless
and
doubled.
Up
I
mean
hud
has
many
different
ways.
They
talk
about
it
and
think
about
it,
but
doubled
up
is
typically
not
considered
literally
homeless,
under
hud's
funding
and
hud's
guidelines
and
the
city
funding
that
we
received
for
young
people
is
more
flexible
and
is
serving
um
young
people
who
are
in
these
doubled
up
situations.
So
that's
correct.
J
Right-
and
I
think
obviously
I
mean
we'll
hope
to
get
some
update
on
all
of
that
work
because
I
think
there's
been
quite
a
lot
done
in
terms
of
getting
rfps
out
and
everything,
but
I
know
that's
not
this
money,
but
I
think
in
the
budget
process.
I
assume
we'll
end
up
talking
about
that.
um
I
just
wanted
to
check
that
I'm
clear.
So
it
seems
like
these
are
mainly
continuity
funds,
except
that
there's
another
10
million
in
the
coc
grant.
B
Correct
this
is
this
is
functionally.
This
is
exactly
that.
It's
just
re-upping
everything
from
the
previous
year.
um
It
is
continuing
our
funding
of
programs
that
are
existing
um
and
there,
as
I
said
in
the
in
the
initial
remarks,
the
coc
fundings.
It's
because
of
the
inclusion
of
these
youth
funds
and
because
of
the
rent
increases.
C
B
J
J
J
So
if
you
actually
go
to
rent
in
the
market
right
now,
it's
quite
pricey
and
the
fmrs
are
too
low
for
people
to
use
them.
So
I
would
expect
that
they're,
similarly
not
being
used
very
effectively
in
most
district
neighborhoods.
I
represent
for
the
same
reason,
and
I
know
that's
why
we
that's
why
in
bha,
we
moved
over
to
safmr's
to
make
sure
that
we
were
going
to
more
more
fully
access,
all
city
neighborhoods
for
housing
opportunities.
C
C
J
C
I
I'm
not
indicating
that
they
necessarily
have
that
rule,
but
I
don't
think
that
the
state
needs
to
weigh
in
on
the
policy
just
because
metro
is
is
administering.
I
do
know
that,
with
with
coc
rental
assistance,
there
is
an
allowance
that
we
can
go
up
to
fmr
um
for
for
some
of
the
portfolio.
I
I
think
leasing.
C
I
may
have
the
details
wrong,
but
I
believe
when
it's
leasing
dollars,
it
may
cap
out
at
100
fmr
when
it's
rental
assistance.
I
think
it
can
go
up
to
110
when
that's
rent
reasonable,
but
there
may
be
an
allowance
for
the
system
to
convert
to
small
area
fmr
in
coc.
I
just
don't.
I
just
don't
know
whether
or
not
that's
the
case.
J
Yeah
I
it
would
be
worth
checking
because
I
think
so
when
I
say
the
state
the
way
the
state's
involved,
so
dhcd
right
is
a
recipient
of
federal
vouchers
which
are
administered
by
metro
and
the
whole
issue
is
that
when
the
sorry
and
for
everybody
watching
at
home,
I
realize
I'm
using
acronym
suit.
Basically,
the
uh
this,
the
boston
housing
authority
made
a
shift
that
said,
if
you're
trying
to
rent
an
apartment,
a
really
expensive,
zip
code,
we'll
pay
a
comparable
rent
there
so
that
we
can
get
folks
into
all
the
neighborhoods
of
boston.
E
J
That
was
a
policy
controversy
two
years
ago
now
in
the
fall
in
the
spring
of
2019,
um
and
I
guess
it
would-
I
wouldn't
be
shocked,
laila
if,
um
if
the
fact
that
that's
still
metro's
payment
standard
with
dhcd
as
the
federal
partner
is
governing
them
being
fmr,
so
I
only
say
that,
because
this
is
it's
super
technical.
But
it's
actually
part
of
the
reason
why
to
counselor
flynn's
point
like
folks
who
are
trying
to
help
get
out
of
homelessness,
are
not
able
to
use
their
vouchers
in
his
neighborhood.
J
um
But
otherwise,
okay,
it
sounds
like
so
there
was
a
description
in
our
fact
sheet
about
the
fact
that
um
uh
you
know
you
guys
were
looking
at
doing
an
rfr
and
then
an
rfp
for
new
funds.
But
I
guess
I
don't
quite
understand
how
that
intersects
with
the
fact
that
there's
really
not
a
lot
of
new
money.
This
is
a
pretty
status
quo,
set
of
grants.
B
I'm
not
sure
exactly
which
part
of
the
fact
sheet
you're
referring
to,
but
in
in
many
cases
we
have
to
do
a
new
request
for
proposals
every
year
or
two
anyway.
So
even
though
it
may
be
the
same
amount
of
money
that
we
do
need
to
go
back
out
and
it
may
end
up
being
some
changes
in
who
our
non-profit
partners
are
for
that
funding,
um
etc.
J
Okay,
so
it's
just
saying
that
you
yeah
you're,
probably
gonna,
do
a
similar
process
you
did
in
in
year
21,
okay,
but
the
matic
just.
But
I
guess
my
question
then,
would
be
obviously
you
haven't
written
that
rfr
or
rfp
yet,
but
um
is
it
fair
to
say
that
with
this
set
of
funds,
you're
not
you're,
not
sort
of
anticipating
a
major
change
in
direction
in
terms
of
what
the
agency
is
seeking
to
do
with
these
funds.
B
J
D
Yeah
um
we
thought
about
that
and
we
usually
have
a
two-year
funding
cycle
for
community
development,
block
grants,
workforce
development
funds,
mainly
because
it
does
take
time
to
build
the
relationship
with
the
residents
and
participants
and
also
stabilize
the
non-profits,
so
two-year
funding
for
grantees.
It's
not
unusual
for
us,
however,
for
this
year
we
wanted
to
do
re
renewal
level
funding
for
our
current
grantees,
mainly
for
predictability
and
to
keep
our
grantees
stable.
Considering
the
economy
is
still
tough
and
we
had
a.
D
D
Right,
correct
um
assuming
we
know
that
um
with
the
vaccine
out-
and
um
there
is
some
predictability
on
the
labor
market
and
um
for
our
non-profit
training
partners
um
for
the
next,
probably
the
end
of
this
year.
So
our
next
uh
cycle-
it's
it-
will
rfp
it
out,
but
for
this
third
round
we
thought
we
would
level
fund
and
stabilize
the
nonprofits
tim
did
you
wanted
to
chime
in.
B
Well,
I
just
uh
just
not
to
interrupt
you
but
to
follow
up
on
your
statement.
Natalia
did
just
have
to
leave,
but
I
can
say
that
their
funding
is
also
pretty
much
stay.
The
course
you
know
doing
the
same
thing
as
previous
years.
However,
you
know
within
their
funding.
There's
differences.
For
example,
this
year
a
given
covid19
a
lot
of
their
technical
assistance
switched
from
kind
of
things
focused
on
you
know,
restore
or
upgrades
to
property
to
helping
owners.
B
J
I
would
just
say
in
I
mean
again
it's
something
we
can
talk
about
over
the
spring,
but
just
like
in
the
in
the
context
of
you
know.
Where
are
we
when
the
dust
settles?
Certainly
in
my
district
we're
seeing
this
like?
You
know
crazy
shift
on
the
commercial
construction
side
to
lab
space,
and
I
just
feel
like
we
aren't
close
to
having
the
pipeline
of
boston
folks
to
do
those
jobs.
J
Yeah,
well,
I
I
would
love
to
be
involved
in
all
that.
I
think
we,
I
think
we
need
like
a
real,
a
real
shift.
I
think
it
should
be
like
you
get
these
labs,
these
new
lab
spaces
in
boston.
It's
like
hey,
a
perk
is
like
you
get
to
hire
from
this
pool
of
highly
trained
well-compensated
lab
techs,
like
I
think
I
don't
know,
we
just
need
to
shift.
A
Okay,
great,
thank
you
um
so
again,
I
think
just
to
summarize
this
is
level
funding
slight
increase
or
increases
only
to
compensate
for
the
fmr
increase
in
some
youth
work.
um
This
is,
uh
I
don't
know,
and
I
think
counselor
sabi
george
is
no
longer
here,
but
um
for
the
most
part,
these
are
grants
that
have
been
part
of
our
portfolio
for
years.
A
So
um
as
the
chair
of
of
housing,
I'd
like
to
just
get
these
up
for
a
vote
I'll
see
if
we
can
um
tomorrow,
if
not,
then
the
following
week
to
get
these
grants
released.
So
you
can
continue
your
good
work.
Thank
you
very
much.
Counselor,
okay,
have
a
good
one.
Oh
I'm
sorry
before
I
go,
there
are
three.
Of
course
there
are
a
couple
things
of
data
that
I
do
know
that
flynn
asked
for,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
um
there's
the
rent
relief.
A
I
know
you
already
sent
that
you
can
repeat
that
the
coc
updates-
or
you
know,
by
neighborhood-
maybe
um
I
know
he
asked
this
in
a
previous
um
hearing,
but
I'll
just
reiterate
it.
The
did
you
remember
the
back
and
forth
about
the
sober
homes
and
specifically,
uh
there
seemed
to
be
undercounted
and
then
maybe
it
would
be
good
to
just
get
uh
how
many
um
federal
grants
are
federal
money
for
better
vet
term
in
housing.
B
So
sorry,
yeah
yeah,
the
sober
housing
piece
is
gonna,
have
to
be
sort
of
a
project
because
we
have
to
figure
out
what
we're
missing.
That's,
not
something.
We
have
right
off
hand
that
was
a
a
new
data
source
for
us,
so
that
that's
gonna
be
kind
of
a
project
to
kind
of
bring
that
back
around
yes.
But
thank
you
and
counselor
flynn.
F
F
um
I
don't
see
the
pipeline
because
it's
such
a
new
field,
um
so
I
I
think
the
only
people
that
can
get
these
jobs
are
people
from
outside
of
the
city
and
that's
not
um
that's
not
what
I
want
to
do.
I
want
to
get
people
from
the
boston,
public
schools
or
from
these
job
training
programs
that
can
have
access
to
these
good,
paying
jobs
in
our
city,
especially
in
life
sciences.
F
D
Yes,
I
do
want
to
just
briefly
state
that
we
do
have
evidence-based
programs
and
partners
and
community
colleges
that
have
disciplinaries
in
the
life
sciences
and
in
the
health
care
industry,
not
not
to
elude
that
they're
both
the
same,
and
there
are
graduates
that
get
jobs
in
various
pharmaceutical
or
life,
science,
employers,
but
they're,
not
a
lot
of
them.
uh
They
tend
to
hire
these
employers
tend
to
hire
those
who
have
bachelor's
degree
or
graduate
degrees,
and
not
necessarily
those
who
are
not
are
uncon
unconventional.
D
A
Thank
you.
We've
um
been
joined
by
councillor
braden
by
councillor
braden
we're
going
to
be
ending
the
hearing
shortly,
but
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
council
braden
has
joined
um
and
councillor
braden
just
in
quick
summary.
This
is
actually
continued
funding
that
the
dnd
and
um
department
of
workforce
development
has
received
for
many
years
and
we
were
just
getting
some
slight
updates
on
them.
um
So
uh
with
that,
I
look
forward
to
getting
this
funding
up
um
for
vote
and
distribution
as
soon
as
possible.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
H
H
F
F
Yeah
and
that
that's
an
important
issue
with
uh
public
health
as
well,
obviously
so
I'm
trying
to
get
that
you
know
public
health.
I
need
to
have
that
information
about
asian
health
and
then
everyone
else's
health
also.
But
if
you
mix
in
the
asian
community
in
with
the
residents
of
the
uh
ritz
carlton
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
give
me
a
good
uh
a
good
read
on
the
the
immigrant
community
in
chinatown,
so
sure.