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From YouTube: Committee on Ways and Means on January 31, 2023
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Ways & Means Committee Hearing - Docket #0111- Message and order for your approval an order authorizing the City of Boston to appropriate an amount of Twenty One Million Six Hundred Thousand Dollars ($21,600,000.00) for the purpose of paying the cost of a design and construction associated with boiler, windows and door replacement projects at the following schools: Boston Day and Evening Academy, Henderson Upper School, Rafael Hernandez School and William E. Russell School.
A
A
For
the
record,
my
name
is
Dania
Fernandez
Anderson
City
councilor
for
district
seven
I
am
the
chair
of
the
Boston
city
council
committee
on
ways
and
means
I
am
joined
by
my
colleagues
council
president
Flynn
counselor
Murphy
councilor
Luigi
counselor,
Flaherty,
councilor
Buck,
just
a
fair
warning.
Counselor
lugeen
has
asked
my
Council
colleagues
courtesy
to
allow
her
to
go.
First.
She
has
a
pre-engagement
that
she
has
to
leave
in
just
a
few
minutes.
I
hope
you
can
allow
me.
Thank
you.
Allow
me
to
do
that.
A
A
Written
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
May
email
at
CCC,
dot
WM
at
boston.gov
and
will
be
made
a
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors
public.
Testimony
will
be
taken
at
the
end
of
this
hearing.
If
you
wish
to
sign
up
for
public
testimony
here
in
the
chamber,
please
sign
in
on
the
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near
the
door.
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you
are
looking
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testify
visually,
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Dot
pack,
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and
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be
added
to
the
list.
A
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket0111
message
in
order
for
your
approval
and
Order
authorizing
the
city
of
Boston
to
appropriate
an
amount
of
21
million,
600
000
for
the
purpose
of
paying
the
cost
of
a
design
and
construction
associated
with
boiler,
windows
and
door
replacement
projects
at
the
following
schools.
Boston
day
and
evening
Academy
Henderson
upper
school
Rafael,
Hernandez
school
and
William
E
Russell
School.
A
A
A
Retreat,
fantastic,
okay,
tell
them
I
missed
them
today.
I
will
thank
you
so
you'll
have
a
good
10
minutes
for
presentation
15.
If
you
need
it
and
then
I'll
go
straight
to
my
console
colleagues
for
questioning
first
and
then
my
questions,
and
if
we
need
a
second
round,
we
will,
if
not
we'll,
wrap
it
up.
Thank
you.
You
have
the
floor.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
good
afternoon,
members
of
city
council.
Today's
hearing
is
a
request
for
an
appropriation
voter,
21
million
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
support
construction
of
repair
projects
to
the
bdea
Rafael
Hernandez
Russell,
Elementary,
School,
Henderson
upper
school
related
to
the
2021
Massachusetts
school
building
authority,
accelerator
repair
program,
the
Massachusetts
school
building
authorities,
the
state
Authority
that
oversees
the
funding
of
public
school
capital
projects
throughout
the
Commonwealth
of
Massachusetts.
The
msba
is
a
reimbursement
agency.
C
It
works
with
local
communities
to
create
affordable,
sustainable
and
energy,
efficient
schools
across
Massachusetts,
and
it's
funded
through
one
penny
of
the
sales
tax.
The
msba
has
two
programs,
the
core
program,
which
focuses
on
Lodge
construction
projects.
Examples
of
that
would
be
the
Dearborn
element:
Dearborn
STEM,
Academy,
Boston,
Arts,
Academy,
Cotter,
School,
Josiah,
Quincy
Upper
School
in
the
second
program,
is
the
accelerator
repair
program.
C
The
accelerator
repair
program
is
designated
for
facilities
in
which
the
scope
of
a
potential
project
is
limited
to
the
replacement
or
repair
of
boilers,
windows
and
roofs.
These
repair
projects
are
designed
to
materially
extend
the
useful
life
of
a
building,
that's
otherwise
capable
of
supporting
the
educational
program.
C
The
ARP
focuses
on
the
preservation
of
existing
assets
by
performing
energy,
efficient
and
cost-saving
upgrades,
which
will
result
in
direct
operational
savings
to
the
district
to
be
eligible
for
the
accelerator
repair
program.
There
are
requirements
of
each
of
the
buildings
in
their
systems.
The
roofs
or
boilers
have
to
be
older
than
25
years
old.
The
windows
have
to
be
older
than
30
years.
C
The
next
two
slides
provide
a
historical
overview
of
the
collaborative
effort
between
the
mspa
and
the
City
of
Boston.
To
date,
the
city
has
been
approved
for
36
accelerated
repair
program
projects
for
Co-Op
program
projects.
The
ones
highlighted
on
this
slide
are
the
schools
that
were
here
before
you
today,
total
cost
for
the
40
Projects
total
construction
costs
for
the
40
Projects
is
just
under
600
million
dollars
and
we'll
be
receiving
upwards
of
205
million
dollars
in
reimbursement
from
the
msba.
For
that
600
million
dollars
worth
of
construction.
C
Slide
right
here
is
specific,
provides
background
on
the
schools
to
that
we're
here
before
you
today
in
this,
the
process
for
these
schools
started
in
February
of
2021.
D
Thank
you
Brian,
so
here
on
this
locals
map,
we
see
those
two
windows
and
door
replacement
projects
in
rosberg
Roxbury
and
the
two
boiler
replacement
projects
in
Dorchester
before
we
jump
to
the
next
slide,
just
wanted
to
note
that
we
do
have
current
teams,
the
OPM
and
their
advisory
and
Aviva
Architects,
as
well
as
their
Consultants,
who
are
WB.
Mbe
firms
I've
already
been
working
on
the
design
of
those
four
projects
for
the
past
year.
D
D
Those
windows
were
installed
in
the
late
80s
and
due
to
their
their
size,
they're
extremely
heavy
and
they've
had
tendency
should
I,
say
of
due
to
their
to
their
weight,
felt
the
because
the
the
balancing
system
of
those
double
hung
Windows
to
fail,
and
although
Boston
public
school
has
replaced
those
systems
numerous
times,
they
continue
to
be
a
significant
problem
and
a
safety
hazard
for
the
users
and
next
slide.
Please.
D
Thank
you
so
for
the
Rafael
and
Monday
school
also
for
window
and
door
replacement
project
has
exactly
similar
issues
on
this
photo.
Here
we
can
see
another
problem,
which
is
the
Seal
of
those
double
hung.
Windows
has
failed
and
is
causing
condensation
between
the
insulated
paints.
So
on
this
photo,
you
could
see
a
discoloration
of
some
paints
which
have
been
replaced,
and
that's
also
true
for
the
previous
project.
D
On
the
right
hand,
side
window
lentils
have
fails
over
windows
and
do
require
minor
repairs
or
Replacements
before
we
can
install
new
efficient
windows
next
slide,
please
so
the
next
two
projects
you
understand
upper
school
and
you
can
please
switch
to
the
next
slide
as
well
as
well
as
the
Russell
Elementary
School
would
require
a
bottle
replacement.
Currently,
those
two
boilers
in
each
schools
are,
respectively,
43
and
44
years
old
and
have
well
exceeded
their
useful
life.
At
this
point,
there's
numerous
issues
of
corrosions
water
leakage
to
causing
valves
and
systems
to
fail.
D
So
we
do
want
to
have
those
nuclear
replacement
would
definitely
contribute
to
an
energy
efficiency
of
the
building,
and
the
replacement
would
provide
certainly
a
positive
effects
on
multiple
other
Building
Systems
and
then
improve
the
the
quality
of
the
environment
within
those
schools.
C
This
is
the
last
side.
It
concludes
presentation
today
again
requesting
the
city
council,
appropriate
21
million
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
support
the
design,
Development
and
Construction
for
repairs
to
the
Boston
Union
Academy
Henderson
K-12
upper
school
Rafael,
Hernandez,
Elementary,
School
and
Russell
Elementary
School.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
we'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Thank
you,
as
mentioned
Council,
illusion
Council
marker.
If
it's
okay
with
you
absolutely
Jen,
has
to
jet
Absolution
you
have
the
floor.
Thank
you.
Council
Murphy.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
I,
want
to
thank
the
administration
for
being
here.
I,
don't
have
that
many
questions
I
just
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
work.
E
It's
incredibly
important
that
we
continue
to
make
sure
that
our
school
buildings
are
affirming
of
the
Dignity
of
all
of
our
students
and
that
it
looks
like
that
from
the
windows
from
the
outside
of
the
facade,
because
outside
often
tells
you
what
how
we
feel
about
what's
happening
inside
a
question
about
and
I
think
I've
asked
this
every
time
that
we've
been
here
but
I
think
it's
an
important
question
to
register.
E
As
the
city
is
engaging
this
conversation
about
the
green
New
Deal
for
public
schools
and
as
we're
making
repairs
and
the
purpose
of
which
is
to
be
energy
efficient.
Do
we
pause
for
a
moment?
You
know
when
we're
looking
at
these
repairs
that
we
want
to
make
to
these
schools
and
think
about
how
they
align
with
this
vision
for
the
green
New
Deal
for
for
BPS.
B
Yes,
we're
in
constant
communication
with
our
colleagues
at
PFD
and
the
city
and
our
team,
looking
at
the
green
New
Deal
and
how
we
implemented
in
schools
and
where
we
make
investments.
We
do
have
to
be
careful
because
we
are
under
obligation
to
utilize
MSB
MSB
funds
and
buildings
that
are
operable
and
we
plan
on
keeping
online
and
that's
what
we
try
to
strive
to
do
as
much
as
possible.
B
We
don't
typically
have
issues
with
any
Investments
that
we've
made
and
have
any
problems
with
that,
because
we're
real
careful
about
once
we
receive
msba
dollars
and
we're
spending
it
as
we
need
to
and
making
sure
that
those
buildings
are
online
and
operable.
E
B
E
And
so,
when
we're
thinking
about
the
application
for
msba,
we,
if
there's
a
school
for
example,
that
you
know
is
like
there
are
windows
that
are
broken
or
the
boiler
is
not
working.
If
we
think
that
that's
a
school
that,
for
some
reason
we're
going
to
be
taking
off
of
line
offline
in
the
next
three
to
five
or
whatever
many
years,
it
wouldn't
be
a
school
that
we
would
put
forward
an
application
for
for
repairs
on
the
msba
in.
B
The
accelerated
program
right,
but
we
also
have
contracts
in
place
to
repair
and
replace
boilers
we
need
to
now.
So
if
something
were
to
happen
to
those
type
of
schools,
we
would
have
a
mechanism
to
upgrade
and
and
make
those
repairs.
E
D
Yes,
I
can
speak
to
that
so
so,
like
I
said,
the
design
has
already
been
underway
for
about
a
year,
so
we
are
still
furthering
the
design.
As
in
getting
into
more
details
and
then
Brian
had
mentioned,
the
documentations
would
be
ready
for
bid
at
the
fall.
C
A
Projects
Absolution
so
sorry,
counselor
Murphy
also
has
somewhere
to
be.
If
you
can
wrap
up
your.
E
Final
question:
okay,
and
for
the
for
the
work
that's
going
to
be
done,
is
all
going
to
be
done
in-house,
or
is
it
work
that
we
contract
out
so.
C
We
we,
as
part
of
this
process,
the
MSB,
assigns
the
consultant
team
of
the
owners,
project
manager
and
the
architect.
We've
been
working
with
them
since
early
2021
to
stop
the
design.
There's
a
little
more
design
work
needed.
Then
we'll
put
these
projects
out
to
bid
in
the
fall
of
hopefully
fall.
2023
early
winter
2024.,
we'll
put
those
out
for
a
public
bid
and
follow
any
of
the
public
bid
laws.
That's
a
part
of
that
process.
E
Okay,
well,
thank
you.
I,
don't
want
to
take
up
any
other
time.
I
think
it's
incredibly
important,
as
I
said
earlier,
that
we
do
this
upgrade.
Work
also
hope
that
when
we
are
Contracting
out
and
design
for
for
this
work
that
we
think
about,
even
if
the
Boston
residents
job
policy
isn't
applicable
in
the
situation
that
we
think
about
making
sure
that
these
jobs
we're
doing
our
best
to
make
sure
that
people
of
color
women
and
our
Boston
residents
are
really
centered
in
this
work.
So
I
want
to.
Thank.
E
You
also
want
to
thank
a
delegation
here.
That's
here
with
World
Boston
International
visitor
leadership
program.
It's
the
reason
why
I
have
to
leave
because
I'm
hosting
them,
but
they're
here
from
Latin
America,
to
learn
about
leadership
styles
and
elected
officials
across
the
country,
so
welcome
Bienvenidos.
Thank
you
and
thank
you.
Madam.
A
Chair,
thank
you
councilman
note
that
if
attorneys
say
they
don't
have
questions,
they
will
have
five
questions
kidding.
A
For
those
at
home,
I'm
speaking
to
sorry
counselor
gen,
what
is
where
are
they
coming
from
again.
F
Thank
you
for
being
here.
As
you
know,
I
spent
20
something
years
working
in
Boston,
public
school
buildings
and
definitely
repairs
are
needed
across
the
board.
So
it's
so
important
that
we
are
taking
advantage
of
any
state
and
federal
money
that
they'll
you
know,
pay
for
these
much
needed
repairs.
So
I
don't
have
any
questions
other
than
thank
you
for
the
work
you're
doing
to
ensure
that
this
money
is
being
able
to
be
spent.
The
only
question
I
have
is:
is
there
any
Financial?
F
What's
the
word
I'm
thinking
of?
If
we
end
up
spending
money
in
a
school
that,
then
we
take
off
line
or
shuts
down,
do
we
have
to
pay
it
back
and
I?
Think
of
all
of
the
windows
that
have
gone
into
so
many
schools?
F
I
was
at
a
high
school
this
morning
and
I
looked
up
at
all
the
beautiful
windows
and
I
know
people
get
hot,
but
half
of
the
windows
now
have
been
knocked
out
to
put
in
the
air
conditioning
units
that
are
in
the
windows
and
I'm
like
did
we
get
like
penalized
for
then
taking
these
windows
out
of
so
is.
Do
they
follow
up
after
too?
Was
there
a
timeline
that
they
kind
of
keep
track
of
the
money
that
we
have
invested.
C
Ideally,
that
won't
happen.
City
of
Boston
hasn't
had
that
happen.
Other
districts
have
but
I
think
working
with
BPS.
Over
the
past
several
years,
we've
been
pretty
mindful
of
the
Investments
that
have
been
made
in
schools
that
will
likely
stay
online
and
and
just
because
they
have
received
an
investment
from
the
msba.
For
one
of
these
repair
projects
doesn't
mean
it.
It
precludes
them
from
other
Capital
investments
from.
F
The
city,
which
is
good,
no
thank
you
for
that.
I
mean
I,
often
say
too,
when
you're
running
your
house,
when
you
have
to
replace
you
know
the
water
heater,
no
one
sees
it,
but
you
know
there's
important
things
are
needed
to
keep
your
house
running
your
school
running.
You
know
new
Ties
on
your
car.
It's
not
fun
money
to
spend,
but
it
has
to
be
done.
So.
Thank
you
for
that.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
H
G
Thank
you,
okay.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
for
the
for
your
important
work,
Madam
chair
and
thank
you
to
the
panel
for
being
here
for
your
work
as
well.
G
So
I
obviously
support
these
four
schools
with
this
infrastructure.
Improvement
I
think
it's
money
well
spent
I
know
a
while
back
myself
and
Council
Flaherty
asked,
or
called
for
federal
funds
to
be
allocated
to
the
schools
for
infrastructure
improvements,
but
including
boilers,
Windows,
roofs,
ACS,
air
conditioning
systems.
Hvacs.
C
G
So
these
four
schools
deserving
of
this
funding
I
certainly
certainly
believe
how
many
other
schools
are
there
in
this
in
throughout
BPS
that
are
in
similar
situations
that
need
drastic
improvements
to
the
HVAC
to
their
roof,
to
their
windows.
B
Because
of
the
way
I
would
answer,
the
question
is
that
the
msba
has
set
forth
a
new
set
of
criteria
by
which
we
can
apply
for
these
funds
and
what
we've
done
is
mapped
out
our
buildings
to
determine
which
schools
meet
the
criteria
not
to
put
in
those
applications.
So
we
do
have
a
list
that
we
have
compiled
that
lets
us
track,
which
schools
are
eligible
to
apply.
I
don't
have
that
list
here,
but
we
can
badly
provide
that
yeah.
G
C
C
Collaboration
with
the
BPS
colleagues,
we
as
part
of
the
green
New
Deal,
a
consult
team,
has
been
visiting
every
school
in
the
district
to
identify
all
the
educational
spaces
within
those
within
the
buildings
identifying
spaces
that
may
have
been
turned
into
educational
space
because
they
don't
have
the
appropriate
learning
environment.
It's
also
taking
into
account
whether
they
have
adequate
heating
distribution
and
other
facility
related
issues.
B
G
Okay,
may
let
me
be
clear:
my
mate
type
priority
is
I'm.
Probably
repeating
myself
is
making
sure
kids
that
are
in
the
school
buildings
are
learning
and
studying
in
buildings
that
provide
adequate
AC
that
provide
heating
that
the
roofs
don't
leak
on
top
of
them
when
they're
when
they're
doing
their
penmanship.
G
So
that's
my
priority.
If
there
are
schools
that
are
in
that
situation,
you
know
we
we
need
to
know
about
it.
I
think
I
think
that's
a
fair
request.
I
want
I
want
to
I,
certainly
want
to
know
about
I
think
my
colleagues
want
to
know
about
it,
because
the
reason
we
want
to
know
about
it
is
we're
going
to
the
budget
process
and
it
doesn't
matter
what
school
it
is.
I
think
all
of
us
want
them,
including
yourself.
G
We
want
them
fixed
and
it's
our
job
to
work
with
the
administration
to
get
the
money
so
that
these
buildings
are
in
good
shape
for
our
students.
So
don't
be
shy
during
the
budget
season
coming
to
us
and
say
Here's,
a
list
of
70
schools
that
need
that
need
funding
in
in
the
city
council.
You
need
to
you
need
to
fund
this
because
there's
kids
learning
in
Rock,
Spring
and
Charlestown
in
East,
Boston
and
Hyde
Park
and
the
south
end
that
need
to
learn
in
a
good
school
in
a
school
building.
G
I
Good
afternoon,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
we're
obviously
we're
in
this
predicament,
because
a
a
couple
elected
administrations
ago
we
didn't
throw
a
shoulder
into
this
issue.
I
A
dilapidated
buildings,
Heating
and
Cooling
issues,
leaks,
Windows,
masonry
work.
Some
schools
didn't
even
have
clean,
safe
running
water,
so
we
didn't
take
advantage
of
the
school
building
assistance
program.
Unfortunately,
again,
two
elected
administrations
ago
chose
not
to
build
dozens
of
new
schools,
dozens
of
new
schools.
We
did
three,
we
did
what
you
got
in
Gateway,
we
did
Lila
Frederick
pilot
middle
and
we
did
Mildred
Ave
Kato
eight
totally
squandered
a
tremendous
opportunity.
I
think
it
was
90
Cent
on
the
dollar
reimbursement
at
the
time.
I
And
so,
if
let
me
ask
the
chairs,
Indulgence
I'll,
do
that
they're
urging
BPS
to
resolve
problems
of
excessive
heat
in
cold
in
the
classrooms
by
installing
modern
ventilation
systems,
heating,
cooling
systems
they're
suggesting
the
docket
zero
one.
One
one
would
authorize
boiler,
windows
and
door
replacement
projects
at
Boston
day
and
evening.
Academy
Henderson
up
Rafael
Henderson
in
the
William
Russell.
I
Their
concerns
is
that
there's
two
major
problems
with
that
proposal.
The
first
is
that
PPS
should
not
be
installing
new
boilers
in
any
school
they're
saying
that
the
mayor
will
soon
issue
an
executive
order
requiring
all
major
School
renovations
to
eliminate
fossil
fuels.
I
Therefore,
those
new
boilers
will
have
to
be
replaced
and
you'd
have
to
rip
up
the
school
once
again
costing
taxpayers
more
money.
Meanwhile,
saddling
students
and
neighbors
with
the
polluting,
inefficient
heating
system
they're
suggesting
that
the
BPS
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
consider
installing
all
electric
heat
pumps
which
cool,
dehumidify
and
circulate
air
as
well
as
heating
it
again
putting
in
what
a
suggested
Antiquated
systems
given
the
new.
I
What
is
coming
out
of
the
mayor's
office?
Second,
any
school,
that's
getting
major
Renovations
should
be
installing
modern
ventilation
systems
that
provide
clean,
fresh
air
in
a
in
a
Better,
Learning
environment
they're,
suggesting
that
at
least
two
of
those
schools
urgently
need
upgrades.
The
Henderson
APPA,
which
does
1.1
to
12.8
air
changes
per
hour.
As
of
November
20th,
which
six
or
seven
ear
changes
per
hour
is
the
healthy
Norm.
The
school
also
had
temperatures
above
84
degrees
in
several
classrooms.
I
On
several
days
last
checked
on
January
27,
2023.,
very
hard
on
the
teachers
and
students
more
so
in
an
inclusion
school
with
special
ed
students.
They
also
suggest
that
the
Russell
Elementary
had
zero
to
1.6
air
changes
per
hour,
which
is
abysmal.
That's
a
failure.
One
room
had
CO2
levels
over
four
thousand
per
pots
per
million.
That
means
air
contains
very
high
levels
of
multiple
pollutants.
I
Bps
admits
that
2000
ppms
is
even
high
they're,
suggesting
that
the
Ways
and
Means
Committee
not
approve
the
21
million
order.
Until
these
questions
are
answered
and
I
think
they
implant
to
maybe
offer
some
additional
testimony
online.
So
those
are
obviously
some
legitimate
questions
and
points
that
they're
suggesting
so
I
guess
we'll
just
start
with
those
two
fronts.
I
I
mean
the
fact
that
we're
going
to
be
installing
boilers,
I,
I,
believe
I,
know
I,
think
we're
all
the
same
state
of
the
city
speech
where
the
mayor
basically
said,
she's
going
to
be
making
an
announcement
real
soon
with
respect
to
new
construction
and
renovation
and
fossil
fuels.
So
how
is
what
we're
suggesting
in
looking
and
asking
the
council
for
today
square
up
with
her
most
recent
announcement
and
shouldn't?
I
We
be
anticipating
that
and
installing
what
these
constituents
and
their
parents
frankly
their
their
parents
at
the
various
schools
that
have
serious
concerns
with
this
docket,
so
as
their
elected
representative
I'm,
advocating
on
their
behalf
and
quite
frankly,
I
read
this
and
I
said
wow.
You
get
some
great
points.
If
we're
going
to
install
we're
going
to
be
installing
these
boilers
only
to
have
to
rip
them
out
of
the
schools
in
a
year
or
two
I
guess,
what's
the
question,
I
guess:
I
guess
why
would
we
be
doing
that?
I
That's
my
question
and
then
follow
through
on
these
on
the
on
the
ppms
in
some
of
these
schools
with
the
air
quality
changes
and
I
think
the
need
to
dive
into
those
more
important
issues,
particularly
at
the
Henderson
and
not
the
Russell.
So
thank
you
manager,
I'll,
leave
that
to
you
folks.
So
can
someone
answer
that
question
as
to?
Why
would
we?
Why
would
we
we
be
installing
boilers
only
to
have
to
rip
them
out
once
May
was
sure
it.
C
Takes
effect,
I
could
speak
to
the
the
boiler
question
the
boilers
that
up
before
you
today,
the
project
again
started
over
a
year
ago
through
design
prior
to
the
mayor's
announcement
at
state
of
the
city.
C
If
we
were
to
pause
this,
we
would
lose
funding
from
the
msba
the
concern
with
that
is
the
time
it's
going
to
take
to
appropriately
address
issues
at
these
schools
to
support
electrical
boiler
systems,
because
it's
not
just
the
the
boil
that
would
need
to
be
upgraded
in
these
schools
and
other
schools.
It
would
be
a
complete
infrastructure
overhaul
to
support
electrical
boilers,
including
some
of
these
schools.
May
not.
C
The
electrical
infrastructure
may
not
be
able
to
support
electrical
bullets
at
this
time,
so
it
would
be
a
much
much
larger
project
that
the
msba
would
not
participate
in
and
include
updating
all
the
HVAC
equipment
throughout
the
building,
upgrading
the
electrical
system
in
inclusive
of
the
boiler.
So
if,
if
we
don't
move
forward
with
this,
it
is
a
it
is
a
valid
point.
C
I
So
it's
so
it'll
be
like
grandfathered
or
it'll,
be
an
exception
to
the
to
this
program
moving
forward
and
then
is
it
precedent
setting
for
you
know,
folks
in
the
private
sector
or
other
other
institutions
that
are
looking
to
renovate
and
build
and
say
whoa
whoa
wait
a
second
time
on
a
minute.
I
know
we're
supposed
to
do
this,
but
you
know
BPS.
They
did
it
right.
C
I
You
know
of
the
21
of
the
21
million.
Excuse
me
of
the
21
million,
how
much,
how
much
of
that's
coming
from
the
msbas,
all
of
it
12.7.
C
I
And
then
sure
we'll
be
investing
that
and
then,
if
we're
sort
of
going
to
do
it,
the
old
school
way
right,
which
is
bring
in
the
old
style
old
school
but
more
efficient,
right
yeah.
We
what's
the
lifespan
on
those
at
least
30
years.
So
technically
those
schools
that
are
getting
these
won't
get
the
electric
ones
for
30
years.
I
Mean
arguably
it's
not
our
money,
but
you
don't
want
you,
don't
never
want
to
waste
money
right.
We
have
the
ability
to
to
redirect
that
12.7
to
somewhere
else.
You
know,
I
would
be
suggesting
that,
but
again
I,
don't
envy
the
position
you're
in
all
the
data.
All
the
stuff
you've
done
is
kind
of
is
gone.
It's
taken
place
over
the
last
year
or
two
and
all
of
a
sudden
we're
sitting
in
our
chairs,
and
we
hear
this
announcement
yeah
it
and
it's
kind
of
like
well.
What
does
that
mean
in
the
conundrum?
I
Frankly,
the
conundrum
that
you
BPS
is
in
with
respect
to
this
docket
is
the
conundrum
that
people
around
across
the
city
real
estate,
folks
developers,
investors
everybody's,
like
what
does
this
mean?
How
is
this
going
to
impact?
I
You
know
Boston's
economy,
the
ability
to
get
a
shovel
on
the
ground,
the
ability
to
to
put
together
a
pro
forma,
the
ability
to
encourage
investment.
I
just
learned
the
other
day
that
Boston
is
now
off
the
institutional
investment
list.
I
can't
even
tell
you
the
last
time
that
that
has
been
the
case.
It
hasn't
been
20
years.
There's
a
lot
of
folks,
partly
driven
by
the
economy,
but
also
partly
driven
by
some
of
these
some
of
these
issues
that
are
great
concern
to
folks
and
the
cost
associated
with
them.
I
And
whether
or
not
you
know,
they're,
practical
and
realistic.
Despite
all
the
best
intentions
and
all
of
us
having
responsibility,
want
to
leave
our
city
and
our
country
and
our
world
and
our
air
in
a
better
place
than
we
found
it.
You
know
so.
I
get
the
conundrum,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
we're
going
to
talk
the
talk
as
a
city,
we
need
to
walk
the
walk
and
we
might
have
to
pump
the
brakes
and
walk
away
from
12.7
million
dollars
if
it
doesn't
fit
into
the
program.
C
And
we
were
just
approved
in
this
set
in
December
for
the
next
round
of
ARP
projects,
three
of
which
are
boilers
which,
based
upon
the
information
that
was
related
to
say,
a
city,
is
going
to
weigh
heavily
on
the
design
of
those
projects.
Luckily
enough
we're
just
starting
that
process,
so
we
will
have
a
better
understanding.
How
how
this
will
play
into
the
discussion
on
what
the
solution
will
be
at
those
schools,
because
the
msba
is
looking
for
the
most
cost,
effective,
educationally
appropriate
solution
and
full,
like
electric
systems.
A
I
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
Madam
chair
and
thank
you
to
the
presenters,
I
I.
Remember
the
hearing
where
we
originally
authorized
this
and
obviously
I
think
like
once
we
get
this
far
down
the
road
with
the
msba.
We
we
really
want
to
keep
maintaining
the
pipeline
where
they
fund
three
or
four
of
our
schools
on
this
front
a
year.
J
So
I'm
definitely
I
can
just
say
up
front
going
to
be
in
favor
of
authorizing
this
when
we
vote
on
it,
but
but
I
think
that
the
question
counselor
Clarity
is
Raising
is
important.
I
think
that
with
these
projects,
we're
always
concerned
about-
and
councilor
Murphy
touched
on
it
to
the
issue
of
like
when
we
make
this
investment,
making
sure
that
we're
not
going
to
have
to
pay
the
msba
back
in.
J
You
know
whether
it's
for
what,
whether
it's
for
something
like
taking
out
the
boiler
as
early
or
you
know
in
the
case
of
Windows
and
roofs,
if
we
were
to
put
a
building
towards
a
non-educational
purpose.
J
J
But
can
you
guys
just
confirm
that
we
we
think
that
these
are
all
schools
that
we
expect
to
basically
like
remain
in
the
BPS
portfolio
like
we
don't
have
a
I
know
that
we're
not
done
with
the
all
the
planning
processes
that
are
going
on,
but
since
there
is
a
substantial
amount
of
our
money
that
goes
into
these
projects,
that's
what
you
guys
are
asking
us
to
appropriate
that
that
you
like
continue
to
feel
comfortable,
that
these
are
like
not
buildings,
that
we
would
be
moving
School
functions
out
of
in
the
life
of
the
project,
yeah.
B
So
if
there
were
to
be
conversations
about
impacting
any
schools,
I
think
the
gist
here
that
we're
under
the
obligation
of
is
that
as
long
as
we
utilize
those
buildings
for
educational
space,
we're
still
covered
with
regards
to
the
msba,
so
I
guess
the
answer
is
right.
Now,
when
I,
have
we
don't
have
any
plans
for
these
schools?
Is
that
planning
is
ongoing?
However,
if
we
did
have
to
make
any
changes,
we
would
have
to
utilize
those
buildings
for
educational
use
in
order
to
stay
comply
with
msba.
J
Okay
and
and
remind
me
again
when
just
what's
the
timeline
on
when
the
planning
processes
that
you
studies
that
you
guys
are
doing
is
going
to
finish
versus
when
the
next
set
of
schools
that
we
would
put
before
the
msba
will
be
selected.
B
So
we're
still
in
the
process
of
planning
and
doing
some
engagement
with
the
community
and
getting
some
feedback
around
our
broader
studies.
Those
studies
are
due
to
wrap
up
at
the
end
of
this
year
school
year
and
we'll
make
some
further
analysis
at
that
point
and
then
into
the
fall
as
well.
B
So
we
should
have
more
information
for
the
next
round
of
work
associated
with
schools
and
degree
New
Deal
sometime,
maybe
in
the
fall,
but
that
could
that
that
timeline
could
change
depending
on
how
far
along
we
get
into
studies
and
Analysis
some
components,
that's
associated
with.
C
So
unfortunately,
this
year
the
mspa
put
a
pause
on
the
accelerator
repair
projects,
so
they
won't
be
accepting
applications
for
the
accelerator
repair
program
in
2023.,
just
core
program
projects
and
those
are
due
mid,
April
I
believe
April
14th
is
the
is
the
deadline
for
the
core
program
submissions
because
it's
a
chance
to
calibrate.
C
Now,
I
think
there
are
a
couple
reasons:
they
did
speak
to
it
at
their
board
meeting
in
in
December,
but
I
believe
a
lot
of
they
like
to
spread
the
money
out,
as
as
far
as
they
can
and
I
think
some
of
the
projects
in
the
construction
costs.
Most
recently
it
kind
of
has
been
kind
of
a
volatile
Market.
If
you
will,
with
everything
going
on
so
I
think
they
may
be
taking
a
year
to
kind
of
see
if
it
regulates
itself
in
in.
J
J
J
Yeah.
Okay!
So
that's
great,
because
I
do
worry
a
little
bit
about
this
question
of
like
our
long-term
plans
for
the
schools
and
then
can
you
just
speak
to
the
Carlton's,
not
here,
but
we've.
You
know
every
time
we
have
this.
We
raise
the
question
of
kind
of
what
BPS
is
doing
to
make
sure
that
these
go
to
diverse
contractors
and
specifically,
you
know
to
really
help
grow,
that
pool
so
that
we've
got
competitive
local
contractors.
J
You
know
mbes
who
can
compete
for
these
contracts
on
the
state
sort
of
regulatory
basis
like
since
these
are
repeat
projects
that
we're
always
doing,
windows
and
and
and
roofs
and
boilers.
Can
you
guys
speak
to
work
on
that
front?
Sure.
J
Right,
but
what
what,
if
anything,
have
we
done?
Or
did
you
guys
plan
to
do
to
kind
of
like
expand?
That
pool
because
I
think
that's
been
the
conversation
in
the
past
is
that
this
feels
like
a
place
where
we
could
grow
a
pipeline.
It's
a
little
bit
like
more
straightforward
for
a
firm
to
kind
of
like
take
on
these
types
of
projects
than
maybe
being
a
general
contractor
for
an
entire
core
school
project.
So
it
just
feels
like
a
really,
but
we
spend
significant
money
on
them.
J
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
been
any
any
progress
since
we
last
talked
on
that
front.
J
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
know
whether
I
know
the
council
appropriated
funds.
You
know
through
the
budget
and
arpa
for
Chief.
It
was
shop
to
really
like
work
with
work
on
how
like
how
we're
growing
our
suppliers
and
like
supporting
really
creating
ecosystems
of
firms,
and
it
just
feels
like
again
like
this
is
a
pretty
significant
pot
of
money
that
would
really
change
like
that
Equity
numbers
and
Contracting.
J
J
Thank
you.
So
much
Madam
chair.
A
Thank
you,
Council
Bach
I'm,
very
interested
in
Council
box
last
question
and
if
you
would
have
to
excuse
me
if
some
of
these
questions
sort
of
sound
similar
and
if
I
didn't
hear
just
indulge
me
and
repeat
them
again
for
me,
please
the
answers
I
mean
and
also
in
the
future,
considering
we're
going
into
budget
season,
I
like
to
ask
that
you
send
your
presentation
at
least
a
week
in
advance
to
give
the
council
time
to
review
and
prepare.
A
Our
questions
may
seem
repetitive
because
we'll
get
in
sort
of
a
day
or
two
beforehand,
and
it's
not
enough
time
and
we're
running
around
like
a
tornado.
So
do
you
have
an
estimate
by
school
or
breakdown
by
each
School
of
what
of
what
each
is
going
to
cost?
Have
you
presented
that
I
don't
see
it
here.
B
A
Thank
you
and
is
it
work
so
I
heard
you
say
something
about
the
Green
New
Deal
in
terms
of
the
follow-up
steps
for
the
schools
that
are
not
going
to
get
repairs
Sam.
But
can
you
talk
about
specifically
how
the
green
New
Deal
is
working
in
collaboration
or
affiliated
with
this
project?
If
at
all,.
B
Sure
so
all
capital
teams.
Sorry,
let
me
take
a
step
back.
B
So
those
ongoing
regular
conversations
that
we're
having
amongst
each
other
with
each
other
I
think
is
helping
us
make
sure
on
the
same
page,
we're
not
duplicative
work
or
people
are
not
informed
of.
What's
going
on
so
issues
like
these,
as
we
plan
tend
to
surface
and
we
troubleshoot
them
and
put
placeholders
on
areas
where
we
have
to
Circle
back
to
to
make
sure
there
are
no
overlapping
work
and
or
missing
work.
B
So
I
think
in
the
spirit
of
continuing
that
work,
it's
going
to
continue
to
build
and
grow
stronger,
so
we're
so
we're
not
in
a
situation
where
we're
worried
about
if
degree
New
Deal
of
work
is
going
to
impact
Capital
plans
American
vice
versa.
Okay,.
A
B
A
B
B
So,
as
the
team
alluded
to
earlier,
we're
writing
the
specifications
we'll
get
it
out
to
bid,
hopefully
by
the
fall
of
23
and
then
we'll
we'll
keep
the
work
going
forward,
but
we're
guarding
the
green
New
Deal
planning
that's
going
to
be
ongoing
and
that's
going
to
be
largely
informed
by
the
studies
that
we're
in
the
process
of
competing
now,
both
the
p
pre-kindergarten
to
12
study,
as
well
as
our
facilities,
assessment,
condition
assessment
as
well
great.
A
Along
the
lines
of
what
council
Bach
was
saying,
I
just
want
to
preface
this
with.
If
you
can
break
down
the
percentage
that
you're
going
to
use
and
design
in
comparison
to
construction
and
I-
guess
also
the
breakdown
of
if
there
are
efforts,
but
also,
if
you've,
already
Contracting
or
as
you're
Contracting.
If
we
can
get
a
list
of
what
are
the
demographics
of
people
that
you're
Contracting
within
the
design
team,
as
well
as
the
construction
team,
thank
you,
I
mean
I.
Think
I
mean
obviously,
for
the
obvious
reasons.
A
You
understand
that
if
we
know
where
we
are
today,
we
can
compare
our
TS
today.
But
we
can
compare
tomorrow
and
figure
out.
Are
the
efforts
that
you're
going
to
be
submitting
if
effective,
if
at
all,.
C
No
msba,
if
the
projects
come
in
under
budget,
we
share
the
savings
with
the
msba.
A
C
The
mspa,
the
mass
Massachusetts
school
building
authority,
they
oversee
the
they're,
the
funding
Agency
for
public
construction
projects
within
the
state
of
Massachusetts.
It's
a
grant
program.
You
apply
to
the
msba
for
repair
projects
in
logic,
construction
projects,
they
are
reimbursement
agency.
So
this
cities
and
districts
throughout
the
Commonwealth
appropriate
the
the
full
funding
for
all
their
projects
and
then,
as
the
projects
move
forward,
districts
will
submit
invoices
to
the
msba
and
they
will
then
in
return,
reimburse
districts
based
upon
their
reimbursement
rate,
which
is
which
is
preset
by
the
msba.
A
Thank
you
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
that
we've
been
joined
by
councilor
Braden.
Thank
you
so
much
Council
Braden
for
joining
us
wrapping
up
my
questions,
we'll
go
right
to
you,
Council,
Braden
and
I.
Guess
the
opposite
as
well
in
questioning
what,
if
you
need
more
money,
what
if
you're
under
budget.
A
Okay,
what
is
the
process
if
I
wish
you
decide
of
these
specific
schools?
I
think
we
talked
about
a
little
bit
last
budget
season,
but
if
we
can
talk
about
it
here
today,.
C
So
working
with
BPS
facilities,
we
identify
schools
that
fall
within
the
requirements
of
the
accelerator
repair
program.
Meeting
they're
building
systems
are
either
25
years
old
or
older
or
30
years
old
for
the
windows
that
the
schools
otherwise
can
support
the
educational
program
making
sure
schools
aren't
over
overcrowded.
So
we
work
closely
with
the
facilities
team
at
BPS
that
they
can
identify
schools
that
would
fit
well
within
the
msba
program.
A
A
C
So
this
is
just
the
the
schools
that
the
repair
work
that
would
likely
Fall
within
the
msba
program,
but
there's
also
many
other
projects
that
PFD
and
BPS
oversee
related
to
repairs,
Renovations
at
schools
in
other
city-owned
buildings
that
are
also
in
design
in
construction.
Right
now,.
A
Thank
you.
This
morning,
I
received
a
letter
from
a
concerned
constituent
about
the
work
that
is
being
proposed
here
and
I
like
to
read
it
and
ask
you
for
your
response.
A
So
BPS
is
going
through
a
lot
of
infrastructure.
Infrastructural
changes
is
there
any
way
we
can
get
insight
on
the
organizational
chart
who's
on
the
team
from
a
constituent.
B
The
overall
district
is
still
under
development
of
being
finalized,
so
I
know
we're
having
discussion
about
how
that
gets
released,
but
that's
still
in
development
and
as
far
as
the
project
goes,
our
facilities
team,
our
operation,
Department,
our
finance
department,
our
Panda
team,
our
family
community
engagement
division,
our
Communications
Department
internally
for
BPS,
while
I
work
collaboratively
with
PFD
with
the
city,
Operations
Division
with
the
city,
finance
department,
City,
Communications
and
mayor's
office.
So
those
are
the
that's
the
cross-functional
team.
That's
working
on
all
these
projects.
A
B
Once
we
once
the
overcharge
finalized
I,
know
we'll
be
doing
some
public
releasing
of
that
information
posting
it
onto
online
and
make
it
available
who's.
A
K
Thank
you
and
I
apologize
for
my
tardiness.
I
had
a
conflicting
meeting,
so
here
I
am
I'm,
not
sure.
If
country
Parker
somebody
asked
this
question,
but
are
we
working
to
identify
a
local
in
the
city
businesses
who
can
undertake
this,
especially
the
windows
as
a
recurring
project,
predictable
sort
of
project
needs
going
forward?
Have
you
asked
a
question
already?
Can
I
check
that
question?
No,
no.
K
K
Thinking
about
that
of
course
right
and
then
you
know,
I
understand
that
the
BPS
has
gone
through
a
whole
review
of
all
the
facilities
and
looking
at
the
status
of
everything
and
giving
us
a
good
Grid
or
a
not
so
good
grid
and
all
and
then
identifying
potential
need
for.
Can
you
possibly
give
me
an
update
on
where,
where
that's
at,
and
how
long
that
might
take
sure.
B
K
I
really
want
it
to
be
a
good
assessment,
because
I
know
from
past
assessments
that
the
Jackson
man
was
scored
as
fair
to
good
and
then
they
closed
the
next
plan
to
close
up
the
next
few
years.
So
if
it's
fair
to
good,
then
how
bad
does
it
have
to
be
to
be
bad?
You
know,
that's!
That's
the
other
question.
I
really
love
this
program.
K
I
I,
understand
that
they're
not
funding
core
projects
anymore
at
the
moment,
they're
putting
a
hold
in
that,
but
is
there
any
any
delay
or
hold
on
the
on
these
sort
of
more
accelerated
maintenance
type
projects.
B
We
mentioned
this
earlier,
but
we
do
have
contracts
in
place
to
work
on
any
systems
that
may
break
down,
or
maybe
even
some
repairs
along
the
way.
So
in
the
meantime,
we'll
continue
to
do
that
and
then
once
we
have
more
schools
that
qualify
of
good
ARP
criteria
and
the
MSB
opens
up
the
application
process
again,
we
will
be
putting
forward
more
applications.
K
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilor
Braden,
I
I
apologize
that
there
was
much
more
to
what
my
constituent
wanted
me
to
read
on
record.
So
please
allow
me
to
read
that
and
I
thought
there
were
some
good
points,
so
I'll
read
them
and
for
the
record
this
came
from
jemisin
and
that's
all
the
only
name
I
have
for
you,
but
anyway,
so
dear
counselor,
Anderson,
Fernandez,
Anderson,
I
and
many
school
parents
have
serious
concerns
about
docket011,
which
ways
and
means
will
review
this
afternoon.
A
I
work
on
school
health
and
safety
issues
with
femco's
a
BPS
families
for
covet
safety,
and
regarding
today's
Ways
and
Means
Committee
hearing
we
are
urging
BPS
to
combat
covid
other
respiratory
diseases
and
resolve
the
problems
of
excessive
heat
and
cold
in
classrooms
by
installing
modern
ventilation
systems
and
heating
cooling
systems,
docket0111
would
authorize
boiler,
windows
and
door
Replacements
projects
at
Boston
day
and
evening,
Academy
Henderson,
Upper
School
and
the
Rafael
Henderson
school,
which
my
son
attended
and
the
William
E
Russell
school.
There
are
two
problems
with
this
proposal.
A
First,
BPS
should
not
be
installing
new
boilers
in
any
school.
The
mayor
will
soon
issue
an
executive
order
requiring
all
major
School
renovations
to
eliminate
fossil
fuels.
New
gas
boilers
will
have
to
be
replaced,
they'll
have
to
rip
out
rip
up
the
school
again:
cost
taxpayers
more
money,
and
meanwhile
saddle
students
and
neighbors
with
a
polluting,
inefficient
heating
system.
They
should
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
install
all
heat,
all
electric
heat
pumps,
which
cool
humidity
and
circulate
air
as
well
as
heating
it
second
any
school,
that's
getting
more
Renovations,
5
million
average.
A
For
these
four
schools
should
install
modern
ventilation
systems
that
provide
clean
air,
clean,
fresh
air
and
a
Better
Learning
environment.
At
least
two
of
these
schools
urgently
need
upgrades
to
Henderson
upper
school
1.1
to
12.8
air
changes
per
hour,
11
20,
6
or
7
air
changes
per
hour
and
is
healthy.
The
school
also
had
temperatures
above
84
in
several
classrooms
and
on
several
days,
127.23
that's
hard
on
teachers
and
students,
more
so
in
an
inclusion
school
with
special
ed
students.
A
This
sounds
familiar
to
what
council
fire
already
read
right.
Okay,
so
in
that
case,
I
think
we've
heard
this
letter
already
I,
don't
think
Council
Clarity
told
us
exactly
exactly
who
sent
him
his
letter,
but
for
the
record
we
I
think
we've
addressed
some
of
the
questions.
Council
Bach
and
Council
Clarity
both
have
posed
the
questions
and
we're
waiting
some
from
some
information
back
from
the
administration
and
for
Mr
Jemison
I'm
happy
to
converse
over
a
virtual
meeting
or
in
person.
Please.
A
Let
me
know
if
you
like
to
do
that:
counselor,
Bach
and
Consolidated
we're
moving
into
public
testimony.
We
have
just
one
person
on
Zoom
and
I
think
after
that,
if
you
guys
don't
have
any
further
questions
and
we're
going
to
wrap
it
up.
Mike
prakash.
Is
that
how
you
pronounce
your
name
did
I
pronounce
that
correctly
Mike?
Are
you
with
us.
H
A
Let
us
know
when
so
much
you're,
muted
I
can't
hear
you.
L
Yes,
yes,
that's
correct,
so
thank
you,
counselors
and
DPS
and
City
staff
and
thank
you
councilor
Flaherty
and
Fernandez
Anderson.
L
A
You
I
think
if
you
can
come
back
with
us,
we
couldn't
hear
you
personal
stuff.
L
So
I
I
made
BPS
the
father
of
a
BPS
graduate
I
live
in
Dorchester
and
I
want
to
thank
councilor,
Clarity
and
counselor
Fernandez
Anderson
for
raising
issues
about
basically
the
viability
of
these
of
this
contract.
L
This
is
not
about
blaming
the
public
facilities
for
this,
the
school
department
for
doing
inappropriate
measures
they're
trying
to
preserve
you,
know
the
health
and
learning
environment
that
our
students
are
in.
L
The
problem
is
that
we're
all
caught
all
of
us
between
a
fossil
fuel
passed
and
a
clean
energy
future,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
contradictions,
not
in
whatever
experiencing
the,
but
but
they
are
real
contradictions
and
we
have
to
deal
with
issues
like
if
new
boilers
are
being
installed
in
2024,
they
will
be
only
about
20
years
into
their
useful
life
before
they
have
to
be
retired.
At
the
most
to
meet
Boston's
climate
change
goals,
which
is
zero
carbon
emissions,
zero
fossil
fuels
by
2050..
L
L
Going
to
pay
one
way
or
the
other
for
doing
that,
and
for
the
double
cost
of
the
work.
The
urgency,
of
course,
is
to
improve
the
heating
and
cooling
system
in
in
those
two
schools
which
is
failing.
So
what
do
we
do?
H
L
Well,
this
the
mass
School
building
authority
and
we
negotiate
this
contract
or
this
Grant
and
on
the
question
of
ventilation.
If
you
really
haven't
talked
about
at
all,
which
is
a
separate
question
from
Heating
and
Cooling,
is
it
possible,
since
extensive
repairs
are
going
to
be
done
to
the
other
two
schools
to
the
doors
and
windows
to
install
modern?
L
You
know,
ventilation.
C
L
A
dedicated
outdoor
air
systems
that
circulate
the
air,
the
the
conditions
in
the
other
two
schools
are
horrific
and
you
know
into
councilor
Flynn's
point
about
wanting
to
safeguard
the
environment
for
students
and
staff.
This
is
a
widespread
problem
in
Boston,
Public
Schools.
It
can't
wait
for
10
or
20
years
to
resolve
the
measures
that
the
school
department
has
been
able
to
take
so
far,
don't
adequately
ventilate
rooms.
So
you
know
basically
it's
in
the
lack
of
public
facilities
and
the
school
department
to
come
up
with
solutions
for
these.
L
A
Thank
you
so
much
Mr
prakash
for
your
testimony
to
my
Consular
colleagues.
If
you
don't
have
any
other
questions,
Administration
any
final
remarks
or
statements
just.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
without
any
further
Ado
Mr
prakash
I
welcome
you
reach
out
to
my
office
for
any
updates
or
conversations.
This
hearing
is
adjourned.
Thank
you.