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Dockets #0800, 0802- Grant appropriation for various housing programs
A
The
un--
Housing
and
Community
Development
when
I
welcome
you
all
to
the
chamber
for
today's
hearing
on
dockets
zero,
eight
zero,
zero
and
zero
eight
zero.
To
one
remind
everyone.
This
is
a
public
hearing,
it's
being
recorded
and
broadcast
live
on,
Comcast
channel,
II,
RC,
n
82
and
newly
available
on
Verizon
1964.
A
It's
also
streamed
online
at
the
Boston
City
Council
website.
Obviously,
if
anyone
here
would
like
to
give
any
public
testimony,
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a
sign-in
sheet
by
the
pillar
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my
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free
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who
are
viewing
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it
and
I.
Please
silence
your
phones
and
other
devices.
A
B
Open
it
up
counselor
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Sheila
Dillon
I'm,
chief
of
housing
for
the
city
of
Boston,
and
the
director
of
the
Department
of
Neighborhood,
Development
and
I
certainly
want
to
thank
you
in
the
committee
for
holding
this
hearing
today
in
a
very
timely
fashion.
I
also
want
to
you
know
personally,
thank
you
for
your
interest
in
the
topic
of
housing
and
they
are
continuing
to
get
federal
funds
for
our
mission.
B
I
also
just
want
to
note
that
we
have
we've
also
invited
folks
that
are
in
the
audience
that
from
the
Office
of
Economic
Development
the
office
of
workforce
development
and
the
office
of
neighborhood
housing
in
case,
you
have
more
detailed
questions
about
the
programs.
With
that
I'll
hand
it
over
to
Bob
Garrett.
Thank
you.
C
The
record
I'm
Robert,
Garrett,
deputy
director
policy
development
and
research
at
the
Department
of
Neighborhood
Development
want
to
begin
by
thanking
for
holding
this,
and
obviously
you
know
we're
much
later
in
a
year
doing
this
than
we
normally
would
be
largely
due
to
delays
at
Congress
and
finishing
this
year's
budget.
The
orders
before
you
dockets
802
and
803
C
and
D
on
behalf
of
the
city,
to
apply
for,
accept
and
expand
federal
fiscal
year,
2017
funding
for
our
HUD
for
hard
formula
grants,
as
well
as
accepting
extending
additional
inclusionary
development
funds
received
by
the
city.
C
Treasurer
I'd
like
to
begin
actually
by
clarifying
that
the
federal
fiscal
year
2017
HUD
funding
referenced
in
the
order
actually
corresponds
to
city
fiscal
year,
28
funding
which
starts
on
July
1st
about
two
weeks.
For
now,
it's
been
a
fair
amount
of
confusion
due
to
the
fact
that
the
President's
budget
proposes
to
eliminate
CDBG
funds
and
home
funds
and
make
a
lot
of
other
cuts
in
a
federal
fiscal
year.
18
budget.
That
budget
actually
corresponds
to
the
city's
federal
or
city
fiscal
year
about
2019,
which
will
start
about
a
year
from
now.
C
So
so,
basically,
the
funding
that
we
are
expecting
for
federal,
17
city
18
is
is
safe,
and
this
who
we're
out
as
I
said,
we're
very
late
and
bringing
that
the
funds
in
here
the
federal
budget
was
only
finally
approved
on
May
5th,
and
it
generally
takes
HUD
between
45
days
and
60
days.
After
that
to
tell
us
what
the
actual
allocation
amounts
are.
The
orders
in
front
of
you
are
based
on
estimated
amounts
that
were
put
together
as
not
to
exceed
amounts
prior
to
our
receiving
the
actual
allocation
amounts
from
HUD.
C
C
And
you
have
the
fact
sheets
that
are
distributed
combined
these
for
HUD
sources
come
to
just
about
twenty
three
point:
six
million
and
overall
it's
just
about
sixty
six
thousand
dollars
less
than
the
total
amount
we
received
last
year.
The
CDBG
funding
is
fifteen
point:
seven
million
dollars
a
decrease
of
one
point,
two
percent,
or
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
compared
to
last
year
for
the
home
program,
which
is
a
block
grant
for
housing
development.
C
The
allocation
is
about
4.1
million,
a
cut
of
less
than
five
thousand
dollars
compared
with
last
year.
The
Appropriations
were
the
federal
level
for
those
two
programs
we're
level
funded.
That's
why
the
small
differences,
the
aqua
allocation,
is
the
one
place
where
we
did
receive
an
increase
increases
about
two
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
or
fourteen
percent.
The
allocation
amount
is
just
under
two
point:
three
million
dollars
and
for
the
emergency
solutions
grant.
The
last
of
the
four
our
funding
is
about
1.4
million
dollars,
a
very
small
increase.
C
Sorry,
small
decrease
of
thirteen
thousand
dollars
compared
to
last
year,
in
addition
to
the
new
grant
amounts
that
we're
receiving
for
HUD.
The
budget
itself
includes
about
11
million
in
program
income
and
funds
world
forward
from
the
prior
year.
That
can
help
support
programs
for
this
fiscal
year,
because
the
allocations
are
essentially
the
same
as
last
year.
There
are
no
real
significant
changes
and
what
we're
doing
with
the
funds
they'll
be
used
to
continue
are
very
effective.
C
Cdbg
funds
also
support
our
economic
development,
public
service
and
in
property
management
programs,
including
close
to
2.7
million
dollars
for
public
service
activities
and
job
readiness,
programs
administered
by
the
mayor's
office
of
Workforce
Development,
and
an
additional
3.9
million
for
business
assistance
and
Main
Street
programs
at
the
Office
of
Economic
Development.
So
that's
a
quick
overview
of
CDBG.
C
Emergency
shelter
grant
I
mentioned
was
a
small
decreased
majority
of
the
ESP
funds.
Emergency
solutions
grant
sorry
go
to
homeless
prevention
and
rapid
rehousing
activities.
Remainder
is
spent
on
street
outreach
and
emergency
shelter.
That
is
basically
at
the
quick
overview
of
the
for
HUD
programs.
Just
say
a
very
few
words
about
the
inclusionary
development
program
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
your
questions.
C
Docket
800
allows
the
nd
to
accept
and
spend
30
million
dollars
in
IDP
payments
received
by
the
city
treasurer
for
the
purpose
of
producing
and
preserve,
preserving,
affordable
housing.
We
continue
to
leverage
our
inclusionary
development
fund
revenue
to
support
housing
development
on
the
last
page
of
your
handout.
There
there's
a
short
fact
sheet
on
IDP,
which
shows
you
the
projected
revenues
and
expenditures,
and
it
reflects
a
very
strong
pipeline
of
housing.
Project
IDP
fund
supports
housing,
development
projects
that
assist
households
at
or
below
the
area.
C
A
A
D
C
The
appropriations
were
level
funded,
the
tip
for
HOPWA,
the
AIDS
Housing
Program
that
one
the
increase
was
a
combination
of
two
things.
One
was
that
the
appropriation
increased
slightly,
but
they've
also
adopted
a
completely
new
allocation
formula
which
I'm
pleased
to
seems
say
that
actually
worked
to
our
advantage.
Thank.
A
You
I
want
to
also
note
that
we've
been
joined,
obviously
by
a
large
counselor,
Michael
Flaherty
who's
sitting
here
and
a
district
colleague
Elton
Mark
co-moh.
Welcome
then
them
now
I'm
moving
on
to
the
bibp
money.
That's
30
million!
That's
great!
That's
obviously,
money!
That's
that's
their
and
this
to
be
transferred.
What
is
your
estimate?
A
B
E
Again,
councilors
Rick
Wilson,
the
director
of
administration
and
finance
at
the
department
head
development,
so
of
the
30
million
that
we're
requesting
authority
to
accept
and
expend
today
we
have
a
portion
of
it.
The
Treasury
has
a
collected,
a
portion
of
it.
We
anticipate
collecting
about
another
17
million
over
the
next
two
fiscal
years,
as
you
can
see
on
the
fact
sheet
at
the
bottom
section
under
expenditures,
so
we've
funded
to
date
about
48
million
dollars
worth
of
projects.
This
is
since
D&D
took
over
management
of
the
fund
from
the
VRA
in
FY
15.
E
We
have
a
pretty
healthy,
strong
pipeline
of
projects,
totaling
36
million
dollars
and
the
majority
of
those
have
been
either
committed
or
awarded,
or
at
least
identified
projects
that
we're
aware
of.
We
are
looking
at
whether
we
you
know
can
do
another
funding
round
this
this
year.
We
typically
do
want
to
do
funding
rounds
a
year
between
our
funding
and
the
Neighborhood,
Housing,
Trust
and
I.
Think
we
will.
We
will
be
in
a
position
to
to
do
that.
A
B
That's
it
that's
a
really
good
question
and
it's
a
complicated
one.
We
have
focused
a
lot
of
our
resources
in
the
last
several
years
on
rental
housing.
However,
as
we
are
just
working
very,
very
hard
to
dispose
city-owned
land
we're
going
out
to
communities
and
saying
what
would
you
like
to
see
and
a
lot
of
these
sites
are
small
and
by
and
large,
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
communities
want
to
see
affordable,
homeownership
or
mixed
income
home
ownership,
so
we're
using
some
of
our
resources
to
make
that
happen.
I
mean.
B
Certainly
we
want
to
fund
both
I
mean
a
strong
community,
has
rental
housing,
housing
for
our
elderly
and
homeownership
opportunities.
So-
and
we
also
are
very
when
we
put
out
money
in
a
transparent,
competitive
way,
we
don't
limit
it
to
one
thing
or
the
other.
We
say
bring
good
projects
and
we'll
evaluate
them.
It's
we
can
leverage
more
funding
on
our
rental
projects
than
we
can
on
home
ownership.
B
A
Is
I
just
say:
I
know
you're
well
aware
of
this,
but
you
know,
obviously
even
at
the
market
rate
you
know,
homeownership
opportunities
are
few
and
far
between.
Certainly
the
neighborhoods
I
represent
I'm
talking
about
at
any
at
any
price,
I
mean
a
lot
of
what's
being
built
is,
is
rental
housing
which
we
certainly
need
a
lot
of
in
the
city
as
we
grow,
but
obviously
I
think
from
from
a
civic
life
perspective
from
a
community
perspective.
You
know
where
we
can
responsibly
encourage
that
I.
Think
I
think
it's
very
important.
I.
A
Using
we
talk
a
lot
about
expiring
use
in
this
in
this
room
and
outside
this
room,
what
it
is
money
from
the
inclusion
and
Development
Fund
available
to
help,
whether
it's
a
community-based
organization,
tenants,
groups
or
whomever
to
purchase
properties
that
are
expiring
use
or
to
you
know,
somehow,
support
the
continued
affordability
of
housing.
I
mean
I,
know
through
the
NH
T.
B
Can
be
it's
not
there's,
there's
nothing!
That's
stopping
us
from
using
IDP.
We
often
try
to
focus
our
IDP
funds
on
new
production,
but
if
a
project
is
losing
its
affordability
and
will
become
market
in
some
ways,
we
do
see
this
new
production
of
affordable
housing,
so
it
can
be
used.
Although
the
vast
majority
of
IDP
is
used
for
new
production,
but
you're
right
preservation
is
a
big
issue
right
now
in
the
city,
we
have
a
lot
of
very
key
projects
losing
or
coming
there.
B
A
You
nice
one
more
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
my
colleagues
I'm.
What
is
the
evaluation
or
what
is
your
thought
process
on
inclusion
development
units
if
they're
not
built
as
on-site
of
the
same
project
having
them
nearby
I
mean
that's,
certainly
in
my
district,
a
huge
issue,
because
you
know
a
lot
of
high-rise
housing,
a
lot
of
market
rate,
a
lot
of
very
high
market
rate
housing
going
up
and
the
inclusionary
payments
are
being
made.
A
B
We
are
I
think
we're
always
we're
seeing
more
units
being
built
on
site
that
we
ever
have,
and
you
know
if
they're
going
to
do
off-site,
we
want
it
within
a
half-mile
radius.
I
think
the
the
the
most
difficult
decisions
come
when
a
very
high-end
condo
development
is
offering
to
pay
out
and
the
pay
out
can
be
millions
of
dollars
per
unit
and
the
good
we
can
do
with
that.
Payout
I
think
those
are
the
hardest
decisions
we
make,
but
I
do
think
the
off
sites
were
getting
much
better
about
telling
developers.
B
We
want
to
see
the
new
units
very,
very,
very
close
to
the
mark
rate
development,
so
I
got
to
applaud
the
BP
da
I
think
they're
running
a
very
tight
ship
with
the
program
these
days,
I
think
they're
working
well
with
developers
I
think
the
guidelines
are
clear.
I
think
the
negotiations
with
the
communities
have
have
greatly
improved,
so
I
think
the
programs
are
running
really
well,
but
if
you
have
specific
projects,
I
can
bring
back,
I'd,
be
glad
I.
A
Think
I
I
think
in
general
just
needs
that
needs
to
be
the
discussion.
That's
happening
is
that
you
know,
while
we
want
to
increase
the
absolute
number
I
think
preserving
what
economic
diversity
there
is
in
some
of
our
neighborhoods,
which
is
rapidly
going
away
in
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
I
represent.
It
hasn't
already,
is
really
important,
I
think
if
people
are
going
to
bear
the
burden
of
these
large
projects,
they
want
also,
you
know,
have
those
contributions.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I'll
turn
it
over
to
I,
don't
O'malley
Thank.
F
You,
mr.
chairman
and
good
afternoon,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
thanks
for
the
great
work
you're
doing,
I
don't
have
many
questions
other
than
one,
and
it's
really
sort
of
looking
at
this
from
the
30,000
foot
view
perspective.
This
is
actually
I'm
very
happy
to
hear
that
things
are
essentially
level
funded
slightly
down
from
last
year,
and
just
so
I
have
this
right.
Is
that?
Because
this
was
work,
that
really
was
the
conclusion
of
the
prior
administration
table,
or
is
this
no
threats
that
have
been
made
haven't
quite
materialized?
F
C
This
budget
actually
survived
the
new
administration
I.
Think
in
part,
because
particular
CDBG
has
a
lot
of
support
on
both
sides
of
the
aisle,
and
you
know
you
may
remember,
there
were
I
think
there
were
two
continuing
resolutions
and
during
that
time
there
were
a
lot
of
discussions
about
potential
cuts
to
the
program,
but
you
know
I
think
in
part,
because
I
needed
to
get
the
17
budget
done
that
you
know
we
dodged
a
bullet
there.
F
F
This
year,
I
fear
that
you're
right,
but
that
is
that
is
good
news.
It's
also
interesting
that
these
fact
sheets
are
very
very
helpful.
This
is
staggering
that
1975,
the
city
of
Boston
received
thirty
two
point:
1
million
dollars,
which
adjusted
for
inflation
must
at
40
plus
years
ago
I
mean
that
is
staggering
to
me.
So
I
guess
are
there
I,
don't
want
to
anticipate
problems
or
have
a
you
know,
exercise
of
what?
If,
but
are
there.
F
B
We
are
looking
at
what
would
happen
with
the
ten
percent
cut.
What
would
happen
with
the
fifteen?
What
would
happen
with
the
twenty?
What
programs
are
essential
for?
You
know
for
our
elders
etc?
More
most
vulnerable,
so
we're
starting
to
look
at
contingency
plans,
but
we
have
in
Bennett
we
haven't
looked
at
a
complete
zeroing
out
all.
F
G
F
H
B
So
we
can
get
you
the
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
what
we
have
very
good
records,
so
we
can
get
you
within
24
hours,
counselor
who's
been
paying
into
the
fund
or
projects
and
our
the
pipeline
that
we're
underwriting
like
Rick,
mentioned
some
of
the
funds
we
haven't
put
out
in
the
street.
Yet
so
some
of
them
are
not
tied
to
a
specific
project,
but
we
can
get
you
all
that
detail.
That'd.
G
H
I
would
flow
as
they
get
the
filmmaker
and
linoleum
so
I
want
to
make
you
shoot.
My
make
sure
that
the
units
that
are
on
site
are
consistent
with
the
other
units.
Also
curious.
When
you
look
at
the
numbers
the
calls
I
get
the
most
or
that
people
are
making
just
a
little
too
much
money
to
qualify
under
the
ami,
but
not
enough
to
live
in
the
city,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
retirees
that
work
their
whole
life
there
on
a
fixed
income
into
a
maybe
in
a
widow
or
widower
situation.
H
You
know
unprecedented
economic
growth
and
all
this
development
we're
seeing
in
a
city
I
think
that
segment
is
really
being
crushed
and
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
answers
for
them.
So
I
know
that
the
provisions
around
ami
and
the
percentages
are
sort
of
set
statutorily.
I
just
didn't
know
whether
or
not
this
flexibility
from
your
perspective,
if
we
could
revisit
maybe
expanding
them
a
little
bit
to
capture
that
demographic,
that's
being
displaced,
a
pretty
significant
numbers
across
all
of
our
neighborhoods.
B
C
H
Just
looking
at
there's
a
demographic
in
a
city,
it's
a
retired
firefighter,
it's
a
retired
police
officer,
two
retired,
schoolteacher
retired
city
employee.
You
may
have
two
incomes,
they're
fixed
or
you
have
with
someone
that
recently
lost
a
spouse.
They're
over
house
they're
got
the
knock
on
the
door
that
the
moment
they've
lived
in.
Their
entire
life
is
being
sold
and
there
being
a
lot
of
quarters
small
opportunity
to
stay
in
the
home
for
three
six
months,
maybe
up
to
a
year.
C
C
E
C
B
B
Your
frustration
and
I,
so
if
we
are
going
to
leverage,
if
we're
going
to
take
our
CDBG
or
home
or
IDP
funds
and
leverage
a
lot
of
additional
funding,
we
have
to
go
through
competitive
funding
rounds
and
that
does
slow
things
down.
So
we're
trading
we're
trading
speed
for
leveraging
a
lot
of
additional
money
right
now,
we're
you
know
we're
putting
in
a
I
want
to
say
a
fraction
because
a
significant
amount
of
money,
but
a
much
lower
per
unit
cost
because
we're
leveraging
federal
state
resources.
B
So
if
we
wanted
to
fund
a
hundred
percent
of
the
unit's,
they
would
move
much
more
quickly.
So
we
we
do
ask
developers
to
leverage
and
go
and
apply,
and
we
really
beat
them
up
to
do
that.
So
I
would
hate
to
stop
doing
that
once
in
a
while.
If
we
have
a
project,
that's
ready
to
go,
and
especially
if
it's
a
developer,
looking
to
meet
their
obligations
through
that
that
that
off-site
development
we
can
move
much
more
quickly,
but
by
and
large
we
do
need
to
compile
lots
of
different
funding
sources.
B
B
B
Years,
does
it
really
it
does
it
does?
The
good
news
is
we
have
a
very
big
healthy
pipeline,
so
we
always
have
new
projects
that
are
starting
construction,
because
you
know,
as
ones
are
waiting
for
state
and
federal
funding.
Other
ones
are
starting,
so
we're
always
busy
producing
units,
but
somebody
can
wait
in
line
for
two
years
and.
G
H
B
H
B
Huge
yeah,
I
so
agree
with
you,
councilor
I
got
to
say
that
we're
often
at
the
state
lobbying
for
our
projects,
you
all
are
very
good
sending
letters
and
calls
it
really
does
make
a
difference.
So
we
are
putting
a
lot
of
pressure
on
the
state
and
the
feds
to
fund
the
projects
when
we
need
to
we're
doing
our
best
well,.
H
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
your
efforts.
Council
mail,
you
sort
of
touched
on
it,
we're
in
uncertain
times
fake
news,
there's
an
opportunity
for
people
to
really
take
a
look
at
themselves.
Their
own
organizations
find
out
what's
working,
find
out.
What's
not
working
for
those
that
are
running
on
all
cylinders,
they
should
have
no
worries.
There's
added
value
there
and
they'll
be
support
for
those
that
have
either
outlived
their
usefulness
or
haven't
been
staying
ahead
of
the
times
or
haven't
been
creative.
Those
are
the
organizations
that
will
find
themselves
in
a
real,
precarious
position.
H
B
H
H
The
onus
is
on
the
VRA
to
sort
of
start
to
look
in
other
neighborhoods
for
investment
and
to
get
more
projects
going
so
that
it's
not
one
or
two
neighborhoods
that
are
sort
of
shearing
a
bearing
the
burden
of
all
that
development
and
that
needs
to
be
clearly
distributed
across
our
city
as
well
as
the
benefits
of
that
as
well.
So
so
I
appreciate
your.
G
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
up
I,
just
came
to
again
praise
the
work
that
you
you
all
do
and
happy
to
see
that
we're
at
least
level
funded
for
this
fiscal
year
going
forward.
But
I
did
want
to
echo
some
of
the
comments
from
the
Chairman
about
home
ownership.
Again,
I
think
both
he
and
I
share
similar
demographics
with
student
housing
and
such
and
in
any
way
we
can
be
creative
in
providing
more
even
deed,
restricted.
A
You
councilor
right.
It
does
raise
one
more
question
that
I
have
Brenda
deed
restrictions.
I
know
that
was
like
it
was
a
year
or
two
ago.
Chief
that
you
were
there
was
money
available
and
D&D
was
purchasing
deed
restrictions
or
was
looking
at
doing
that
in
some
areas
around
the
city
and
my
mind,
not
remembering
that
correctly
I'm.
A
That
something
that
would
make
sense
moving
forward
is
that
there
are
neighborhoods
that,
as
we
see,
are
gentrifying.
You
know
prices
going
up
to
look
at
folks
who
have
been
long
term
residents,
both
homeowners
and
renters,
to
see
what
feasibility
there
is
with
the
landlord's
or
even
I'm,
even
owner
occupied
homes,
whose
folks
have
the
tent
down.
B
Like
that,
I
think
what
you're
maybe
maybe
referring
to
is
that
we
put
out
seven
and
a
half
million
dollars
last
year
for
organizations
to
buy
occupied
properties,
and
these
occupied
properties
were
not.
They
did
not
have
deed
restrictions
on
them,
but
they
may
have
had
the
low
or
moderate-income
tenants.
So
the
idea
was
that
they
would
be
acquired.
We
would
put
deed
restrictions
on
them
and
tenants
would
not
be
asked
to
leave.
They
would
be
able
to
stay
and
we'd
like
to
do
more
of
that
funding.
B
A
G
You
well
I
just
wanted
to
say
and
I
know.
Keith
Dillon
is
aware
of
the
program
through
Harvard
Harvard's
funding.
The
purchasing
of
you
know
multi
families
in
training
into
condos
whatever
and
then
reselling
them
to
owner
occupants.
Only
you
know,
I,
don't
know
if
there's
an
updated
to
say
if
it's
successful
or
not
because
I
know
there's
a
slight
loss
on
every
sale,
but
it
seems
like
a
good
way
to
really
entice
more
homeownership
in
the
neighborhood
and
if
the
cost
is
minimal,
it
might
be
worth
it
to
ya.
B
Scale
it
I
agree,
I
got
a
briefed
on
that
program
and
HUD
is
really
I'm.
Sorry
Harvard
is,
is
financing
that
program
right
now
at
the
Austin
Brighton
CDC
and
it's
I'm
pleasantly
surprised.
It's
working.
People
are
buying
the
properties
with
the
deed
restrictions
on
them
and
it
is
stabilizing-
and
you
know
also
much
better
than
I
do
a
piece
of
Austin.
Then
another
piece
of
Austin
they're
having
a
hard
time
making
the
numbers
work
or
getting
the
acquisitions.