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From YouTube: Committee on PILOT Agreements on June 14, 2021
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Docket #0327 - Hearing regarding increasing oversight, transparency, and coordination of PILOT community benefit offsets
B
Great,
thank
you
carrie
chief
steroid.
We
all
good
on
your
side.
B
Okay,
great
excellent,
then
I'm
calling
this
hearing
of
the
boston
city
council's
ways
and
means
committee
to
order
for
the
record.
My
name
is
kenzie
bach,
I'm
the
district,
a
counselor,
sorry
I
misspoke
it
isn't
the
ways
and
means
committee.
It's
the
committee
on
pilot
agreements
which
I'm
also
the
chair
of
and
which
is
in
fact
today
having
its
inaugural
hearing
and
we're
very
excited
to
be
focusing
on
the
question
of
community
benefits
agreements
today.
B
So
today's
hearing
formally
is
on
docket
0-327
order
for
hearing
regarding
increasing
oversight,
transparency
and
coordination
of
pilot
community
benefits
offsets.
This
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
city-council-tv.
B
It
will
be
rebroadcast
on
xfinity
channel
8,
rcn,
channel
82
and
files
channel
964.
we'll
be
taking
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
the
hearing.
I
know
we've
got
some
folks
signed
up
already.
B
If
you
want
to
testify
here
in
the
zoom
by
video
conference,
you
can
just
email
cora,
so
that's
c-o-r-a,
dot,
montrond
m-o-n-t-r-o-n-d
at
boston.gov,
so
cora.montrond.boston.gov
cora
will
get
you
the
link
and
when
you're
called
we
just
ask
that
you
state
your
name
in
affiliation
or
residence
and
limit
your
comments
to
just
a
couple
of
minutes
to
ensure
that
all
comments
can
be
heard.
We're
also
taking
written
testimony
which
you
can
email
to
ccc.pilot
boston.gov,
that's
ccc.pilot
of
awesome.gov,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
many
folks
who
have
submitted
written
testimony
to
us
already.
B
Please
be
assured
that
we
are
circulating
that
to
all
counselors
and
it'll
be
read
carefully
and
I
do
appreciate
we
have
a
number
of
people
who
weren't
able
to
join
us
today,
but
did
submit
fulsome
comments.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Now
I'm
joined
by
my
colleagues
counselor
liz
braden
district
9
counselor,
michelle
wu
at
large
and
councillor
ricardo
arroyo
district
five.
So
thank
you
to
all
of
them
for
being
here.
B
Councilor
braden
is
my
co-filer
of
this
docket,
along
with
then
council
president,
now
mayor
kim
janey,
so
grateful
to
liz
for
her
partnership
and
just
before
we
go
to
the
administration
I'll
I'll.
Just
allow
the
counselors,
who
are
here
to
say
a
couple
words
in
opening
again,
I'm
kenzie
bach.
In
addition
to
being
the
chair
of
the
committee,
I'm
the
district
eight
counselor,
which
is
a
district
that
runs
from
the
west
end
to
mission
hill
and
is
proud
to
boast.
B
Many
amazing
institutions,
from
universities,
to
hospitals,
to
cultural
institutions
and
and
for
me,
one
of
the
core
reasons
that
we
filed.
B
This
hearing
order
was
because,
because
we've
really
seen
in
covid
and
under
duress
what
it
looks
like
when
our
institutions
in
our
city
come
together
in
a
coordinated
way
to
really
tackle
a
crisis,
and
I
think
there
are
opportunities
in
a
real,
a
best-in-class
kind
of
pilot
program
nationwide
to
think
about
how
we
achieve
that
kind
of
synergy
and
sort
of
everybody
pulling
in
the
same
direction
to
tackle
some
of
our
enduring
crises,
whether
you're
talking
about
racial
and
economic
inequity,
educational
opportunity,
housing
unaffordability.
B
All
these
things
in
the
city,
so
I'm
grateful
to
the
many
folks
on
all
sides
have
been
talking
thinking
about
this
and
hopeful
that
this
is
a
conversation
today
that
kind
of
catalyzes
some
meaningful
action
in
that
direction.
So
I'll
pass
it
now
to
my
colleague
and
co
filer
counselor
liz
braden
counselor
brand
new.
At
that
few
words.
D
I
will
I'll
keep
it
brief,
because
I
want
to
hear
it.
We
want
to
move
on
to
the
panelists,
but
I
want
to
thank
you,
chancellor
bach,
and
for
sharing
this
session.
I'm
very
pleased
to
be
the
lead
sponsor
of
this
hearing
with
you
and
with
mayor
ginny
when
she
was
then
council
president
way
back
in
february.
D
D
I
really
feel
strongly
that
if
we
all
work
together
as
stakeholders
to
ensure
that
the
property
properly
renewed
and
transformed
approaches
to
pilot
community
benefits,
that
and
the
whole
city
will
will
be
beneficiaries
of
that,
and
it
will
help
us
address
some
of
the
underlying
inequities
in
our
in
our
communities
and
also
take
some
really
give
some
relief
to
our
taxpayers,
who
are
resident.
The
taxpayers
in
boston
are
carrying
73
of
the
revenue
for
the
city
budget
at
the
moment
and
that
that's
an
unsustainable
situation.
D
So
I
hope
that,
through
our
conversations
that
we
can
find
a
more
a
more
a
better
way
forward.
Thank
you.
B
E
Thank
you
very
much.
I
counselor
bach
and
I
were
at
the
same
event.
I
just
ran
in
the
door
a
little
further
away
from
from
then
than
she
is
so
just
want
to
very
briefly
say.
Thank
you
so
much
to
everyone.
I
know
this
has
been
an
ongoing
conversation
for
years.
At
this
point,
I'm
glad
to
see
that
the
council
is
moving
forward
with
the
committee
and
more
direct
and
specific
oversight
here.
E
We
need
to
see
some
major
changes,
especially
in
this
moment
that
reflect
the
sustainability
of
our
revenue
sources
in
the
long
run,
and
not
just
lean
on
the
sort
of
one-time
federal
infusion
of
funds
to
to
put
band-aids
over
what
should
be
longer-term
structural
conversations
about
our
revenue,
and
this
is
a
big
piece
of
it.
So
thank
you
so
much
thank
you
for
organizing
and
to
everyone
for
being
part
of
this.
F
Thank
you,
council
black,
I'm
not
sure
if
I'm
coming
through,
because
a
little
it's
a
little
bit
jumpy.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
the
how
my
service
is
in
terms
of.
F
F
Right
perfect,
so
I'm
gonna
keep
the
camera
off
and
I'll
keep
it
very
short.
I
support
the
work
that
we're
doing
to
enhance
the
pilot
program
and
make
sure
that
we're
receiving
the
funding
that
we
should
we
should
be
receiving,
which
we
currently
don't,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
these
panelists
and
I'll
leave
it
there
so
that
we
can
get
started
because
you
got
two
panels
going.
B
Great,
thank
you.
So
much
council
arroyo
counselor
at
one.
Second,
I
lost
my
list.
Councillor
andrea
campbell.
G
Thank
you,
councillor
bach
and,
of
course,
thank
you
to
the
makers
for
this
timely
conversation.
Thank
you
also
to
the
advocates
who
sent
some
really
thoughtful
information.
Who've
been
working
on
this
issue
for
some
time
and
so
look
forward
to
hearing
the
panelists
I'll,
keep
it
short
and
sweet,
given
that
we're
already
10
minutes
in.
Thank
you.
B
Great
thank
you
councillor
campbell
councillor,
anissa
sabi
george.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
ditto
can't
be
beat
fair.
All
right
and
counselor
lydia
edwards
district,
one.
H
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
and
and
now
without
further
ado,
I'll
pass
it
over
to
the
administration
who
we
had
asked
to
come
and
speak
specifically
to
this
topic
of
pilot
agreements
and
specifically
community
benefits
and
really
thinking
about
how
we
make
those
most
impactful
for
the
residents
of
boston
and
coordinate.
So
I've
got
here
today
with
with
us
our
cfo
justin
starrett,
along
with
our
commissioner
of
assessing
nick
arnello
and
casey.
B
I've
lost
my
my
cheat
sheet
with
your
title,
but
also
casey
brock,
wilson,
an
indispensable
member
of
the
team,
our
director
of
strategic
partnerships
for
the
city
of
boston,
all
right
thanks,
chief
steroid,
always
yours,.
C
Thank
you,
counselor
and
thank
you
council
for
for
inviting
us
here
on
this
really
important
topic,
and
I
think
everyone
hit.
You
know
all
the
all
the
high
points
that
I
think
that
we
want
to
get
into
today
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
our
plan
is
for
going
forward.
But
before
I
jump
into
that,
thank
you
counselor.
C
My
name
is
justin
stern,
I'm
the
cfo
for
the
city,
nick
arnella,
who
is
the
commissioner
of
assessing
who
works
on
valuing
properties
in
the
city,
including
those
of
our
our
nonprofit
institutions
and
then
casey
brock,
wilson,
director
of
strategic
partnerships
in
my
office,
who
oversees
the
community
benefits
program
and
the
reporting
and
working
very
closely
with
our
very
valued
institutions.
I
think
I
want
to
start
my
very
brief
presentation
day
with
that.
C
With
that
exact
moment
they
are
indispensable
members
of
our
community
when
we
talk
about
our
institutions
right,
so
whether
they
are
a
world-class
hospital,
a
top-ranked
university,
a
first-in-class
art
institution
that
we
have
in
the
city.
Those
are
what
make
up
the
fabric
of
our
city
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
make
it
such
a
attractive
and
livable
and
vibrant
place
to
be
so.
Without
them.
C
We
are
really
not
boston
and-
and
you
know,
we
have
to
start
with
a
thank
you
for
them
and
and
really
be
grateful
for
their
presence
in
our
city,
as
they,
you
know,
continue
to
attract
visitors,
attract
investment
and
attract
different
sorts
of
growth
that
we
see
not
necessarily
on
the
property
tax
side,
but
we
certainly
see
making
our
city
a
more
vibrant
and
attractive
place
for
investment
and
for
people
to
come
and
live
and
work.
C
So
we
want
to
start
right
there,
and
I
also
want
to
start
with
the
pilot
program
itself.
C
The
pilot
program,
you
know,
is
a
voluntary
program
created
decades
ago
that
was
reformed
about
a
decade
ago,
under
an
initial
task
force
to
really
sort
of
recognize
that,
yes,
while
these
institutions
are,
are
valued
members
of
our
community
that
are
bringing
people
to
the
city
that
are
attracting
investment,
they
do
create
an
additional
cost
that
is
incurred
by
the
city,
whether
it's
in
expenses
that
we're
incurring
or
you
know,
schools
or
all
the
different
different
types
of
expenses
that
we
have
as
a
city.
C
So
there
really
was
a
city-wide
approach
to
how
do
we
bring
together
institutions
the
community?
This?
You
know
the
city
council,
the
administration,
to
have
a
conversation
about
pilot
and
have
a
conversation
about
how
we
can
create
a
very
a
more
formalized
structure
than
existed
prior
to
which,
if
folks
remember,
was
really
a
hodgepodge
of
different
types
of
agreements
with
the
institutions
themselves.
C
So,
a
decade
ago
you
know
reforming
the
program
and
creating
the
program,
and
we
have
been
fortunate
that
you
know
since
that
time
the
program
has
only
gotten
stronger,
whether
it
comes
to
the
community
benefits
portion
or
the
financial
commitment
that
we
have
from
our
partners.
That
represents
about
30
million
a
year
into
the
city
budget.
So
while
it's
certainly
not
the
billions
that
we
collect
in
property
taxes,
it
is
a
very
valuable
resource
that
the
city
relies
on
for
the
operating
budget.
C
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
think
about
community
benefits,
we
think
about
all
the
work
that
we're
doing
on
this
topic.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
that
remains
a
very
value.
Part
of
our
our
investments
that
we
make
every
year
is
through
that
investment,
and
there
is
not
a
week,
goes
by
that
either
a
colleague
in
another
part
of
the
country,
whether
at
my
level
or
with
nick
or
with
casey,
is
reaching
out
to
figure
out
how
they
can
design
programs
similar
to
our
city
of
austin
pilot
program.
C
But
understanding
that
you
know
obviously
we're
going
to
want
to
take
a
look
at
new
programs
every
10
years
and
then
we're
going
to
want
to
find
opportunities
for
reform
and
to
better
reflect
the
community's
needs.
So
the
administration
under
mayor
janie
today
is
sort
of
recognizing
that
this
is
a
conversation
that
we
want
to
have
with
the
council
have
with
the
community
have
with
advocates,
have
with
our
institutions.
C
So
we're
going
to
be
announcing
today
the
formation
of
an
inclusive
pilot
task
force
composed
of
those
institutional
partners.
Electeds
labor
the
community,
and
certainly
the
the
city
council,
led
through
the
chair
of
this
committee,
to
make
sure
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
have
a
very
public,
a
very
transparent
and
accountable
conversation
about
how
we
want
the
community
benefits
to
look
going
forward,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
difference
of
opinion
on
the
community
benefits
who
they're
benefiting
how
they're
just
deciding.
C
We
want
to
have
a
really
transparent
conversation
about
what
that
looks
like
going
forward.
So
this
new
committee
that
we'll
be
launching
this
month
or
later
this
month
will
be
comprised
of
all
those
community
members.
I
mentioned
with
a
focus
on
looking
at
the
community
benefits
program,
but
ultimately
the
agenda
is
going
to
be
up
to
this
task
force
to
determine
thinking
about
the
program
from
community
benefits,
all
the
way
down
to
the
cash
payments
and
and
the
program
at
large.
So
we're
really
excited
about
it.
I
Thank
you,
justin.
Thank
you
to
counselors
for
having
us
here
as
well.
I
think
justin
just
gave
a
great
overview
of
kind
of
how
our
approach
is.
I
think
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
the
current
program
is
clearly
an
outstanding
success
and
has
been
a
clear
success
and
a
nation-leading
program,
and
so
this
task
force
that
we're
talking
about
is
not
about
reinventing
the
wheel.
It's
not
about
fixing
something.
That's
not
broken.
What
it's
about
is
kind
of.
I
As
it
currently
exists-
and
we
think
it's
really
important
to
have
all
those
voices
and
have
everyone
feel
kind
of
connected
and
to
to
build
a
little
bit
on
something
that
justin
mentioned,
you
know
the
institutions
and
the
city,
I
think,
have
really
done
an
excellent
job
in
the
past
of
growing
together
and
that
they
add
an
enormous
amount
of
value
to
the
city
and
the
city
adds
an
enormous
amount
of
value
to
them.
I
And
it
really
is
the
symbiotic
relationship
that
I
think
everyone
wants
to
continue
and
everyone
can
kind
of
build
and
grow
and
succeed
together.
And
so
the
new
task
force
is
really
about
continuing
that
relationship
and
figuring
out
how
to
make
games
even
even
stronger
and
better
than
they
are
currently.
I
So.
Thank
you
again,
everyone
for
having
me
and
I
will
give
casey
brock
wilson,
our
director
of
strategic
partnerships,
as
you
so
perfectly
put
it
counselor
bach
and
an
opportunity
to
go
into
a
little
more
detail
on
community
benefits,
as
they
currently
exist.
J
Thanks
nick
and
justin,
and
thank
you
to
the
chair
for
hosting
the
space
to
talk
about
the
pilot
program.
My
name
is
casey
barkelson
and
I
am
for
strategic
partnerships
for
administration
and
finance
and
thank
you
to
all
the
institutions
advocates
and
community
members
who
are
on
the
zoom
today
as
well.
We
look
forward
to
listening
to
the
each
panel
today,
as
well
as
the
public
testimony
and
learning
from
each
and
every
one
of
you,
I'm
briefly
going
to
talk
today
about
the
history
of
the
pilot
community
benefits
program.
J
From
the
beginning,
I
think
one
unique
feature
of
the
pilot
program
has
an
opportunity
for
every
institution
to
offset
a
portion
of
the
requested
cash
payment
with
proof
of
community
benefits.
That
amount
has
always
been
capped
at
50
to
balance
the
city's
need
for
revenue
and
the
value
of
the
institutions,
community
benefits
and
in
the
initial
report.
If
you
go
back
to
it
in
2010,
the
task
force
really
recognized
that
it
is,
and
was
inherently
difficult
to
value.
J
This
challenge,
we
know,
only
grows
when
we
start
applying
one
program
to
lots
of
different
types
of
institutions,
from
hospitals
to
universities,
to
cultural
organizations,
but
the
task
force
did
its
best
to
capture
some
broad
guidelines
for
community
benefits
which
still
stand
today.
Those
guidelines,
as
just
as
a
reminder
for
folks,
are
one
to
directly
benefit
the
city
of
boston
and
its
residents.
Two
is
to
support
the
city's
mission
and
priorities
with
the
idea
that
the
city
would
support
such
an
initiative
in
its
budget.
J
J
And,
finally,
you
know
the
pilot
community
benefits
again
are
just
one
piece
of
the
way
an
organization
interacts
with
the
city
and
they,
but
should
only
include
investments
that
are
above
and
beyond
commitments
in
institutional
master
plans,
article
80
requirements,
determination
of
need
and
the
like.
So
really
a
separate
one
piece
of
the
overall
way
that
institutions
interact
with
the
city.
J
J
If
the
report,
the
community
benefits
reported,
are
in
line
with
the
framework
established
by
that
task
force
in
2010,
they
are
eligible
to
receive
up
to
50
credit
for
those
community
benefits
off
the
requested
cash
payment.
As
as
discussed
earlier
and
for
many
years
I
would
say,
the
community
benefits
program
was
kind
of
the
sleepy
part
of
the
pilot
program.
It
didn't
receive
the
attention
it
deserved
and
so
beginning
in
2017.
J
So,
for
example,
in
fy
16
there
were
only
23
institutions
that
submitted,
or
there
were
23
institutions
that
did
not
submit
any
type
of
community
benefit
program
and
in
partnership
with
the
institution,
we
worked
really
hard
to
reduce
that
number
of
people
who
are
not
submitting
community
benefit
reports
in
fy
20.
We
were
able
to
reduce
it
down
to
10
institutions.
J
J
If
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
look
at
those
look
at
them,
I
encourage
you
to
download
them
in
fy
20.
Our
most
recent
full
year,
37
institutions
submitted
community
benefits
reports,
totaling
153
million
dollars,
which
is
approximately
three
times
the
amount
of
credit
that
those
institutions
were
eligible
to
receive.
J
J
J
Those
two
pieces
of
information
are
just
the
beginning
of
starting
to
understand
this
program
even
more
fully
and
through
that
work.
We
know
that,
for
example,
in
fy
20,
our
institutions
supported
over
53
million
dollars
in
scholarships
and
grants
specific
to
boston
residents
about
4
million
in
employment,
workforce
training
and
summer
jobs.
Programs,
4
million
in
community
safety
empowerment,
trauma,
support,
28
million
in
preventative
care,
6
million
in
free
or
discounted
admission
to
our
cultural
institutions,
and
I
could
keep
going
I'm
not
going
to
run
through
the
entire
summary
report.
J
You
can
find
it
on
our
website
and
geographically,
we
found
that
about
70
of
the
programs
reported
serve
residents,
city-wide
and
then
they're.
We
have
a
breakdown
by
neighborhood
as
well
in
the
report,
so
I
think
I'll
turn
now
to
kind
of
what's
ahead,
which
is
why
we're
all
here
today,
as
nick
and
justin
mentioned
right.
This
is
a
nation-leading
program
that
is
really
important
to
the
city
for
a
variety
of
different
reasons.
J
J
Its
initial
charge,
as
justin
mentioned,
will
be
to
modernize
the
community
benefits
program,
but
ultimately,
the
agenda
will
be
determined
in
partnership
with
the
task
force,
and
that
was
one
of
the
strengths
of
the
initial
task
force
is
together.
They
worked
to
you
know
on
the
initial
charge
to
really
build
out
the
agenda,
and
we
think
we
can
do
the
same
here
together.
A
J
J
B
Great
thank
you
casey
and
justin,
and
nick
counselors,
I'm
just
sending
everybody
the
order.
B
I
guess
I'll
just
start
with,
I
mean
I
think
I
think
that
the
community,
like
exactly
that
coordination
like
we
were
talking
about
right,
is
a
place
for
real
growth,
and
I
also
think
you
know
I've
been
pretty
aware
in
my
district
of
the
determination
of
needs
process
that
the
hospitals
have
and
how
that
has
evolved
in
a
way.
That's
like
a
bit
more
targeted
and
coordinated.
B
So
I
guess
I
wondered
I
mean
I
think.
Obviously
we
need
stakeholders
around
the
table
for
this
and
we're
trying
to
have
all
those
voices
here
at
the
hearing
today.
But
I
wondered
casey
if
you
could
speak
a
little
bit
more
from
your
perspective,
like
as
having
managed
this
community
benefits
program
like
you
know
what
what
feel,
what
feel
like
the
like
leading
edges
there
on
places
that
we
could
that
we
could
go
recognizing
that
you
guys
are
proposing
a
kind
of
stakeholder
conversation.
J
So,
for
example,
we
know
that
our
system
for
community
benefits
reports
which
are
excel
spreadsheets,
is
pretty
outdated
and
doesn't
allow
room
for
institutions
to
tell
any
of
the
story
of
their
work
and
and
doesn't
make
it
easy
for
interested
community
members
to
digest
or
understand
the
impact
of
these
programs.
So
you
know
it's
something:
we've
heard
loud
and
clear
over
the
years.
That
is
one.
You
know
easy
thing
that
we
can
start
on
together.
J
That
is,
you
know,
specific
to
the
health
care
institutions,
but
there
are
certainly
things
that
we
can
learn
from
them
about
community
engagement,
social
determinants
of
health,
and
you
know
it's
not
again,
not
an
exact
corollary
to
our
boston,
specific
program.
That
is
cross-institutional,
but
I
think
there
are
certainly
things
that
we
could
learn
from
their
process
that
we
could
incorporate
into
this.
J
So
those
are
a
couple
examples
that
come
to
mind,
but
there's
there's
many
more
that
I
expect
to
be
topics
of
conversation
where
we're
inviting
experts
and
others
who
have
interacted
with
the
program
or
are
experts
in
the
space
to
really
help
inform
the
conversation
with
the
task
force
as
well.
B
Great,
thank
you
yeah.
I
guess
for
me
the
things
that
feel
important.
I
mean
that
coordination
like
I
talked
about
the
idea
of
like
really
targeting
the
big
challenges
of
the
city,
really
thinking
about
the
things
that
we
would
spend
taxpayer
dollars
on
if
we
weren't
figuring
out
how
to
do
them
institutionally
and
then
more
of
a
co-governance
model.
B
I
know
one
of
the
things
that
I've
consistently
heard
from
folks
is
just
the
you
know:
everybody
wanting
to
be
at
that
table
not
kind
of
have
a
committee
at
some
institution
sort
of
deciding
what
might
be
wanted
for
the
people
of
boston
and
the
p.
The
community
benefits
that
people
are
more
excited
about,
tend
to
be
the
ones
that
have
been
figured
out
that
way,
but
I'm
going
to
try
to
model
not
going
on
for
the
full
five
minutes.
B
Just
because
we've
got
the
pilot
action
group
is
going
to
do
a
panel
after
the
administration
and
then
we've
also
got
the
institutions.
So
I'll
go
to
my
colleagues
just
for
questions
and
ask
everybody
to
be
mindful
of
that
time.
D
Thank
you.
I'm
I'm
pleased
to
hear
that
we're
setting
up
this
this
task
force
to
investigate
and
develop
and
and
improve
our
community
benefits
process
and
just
in
terms
I
know
it's
been
just
been
announced
today,
but
in
terms
of
who
will
be
the
task
force,
how
will
it
be
made
up
and
the
other
question
was
really
in
terms
of
our
community
benefits
submissions
over
the
over
the
past
10
years?
D
Have
we
ever
seen
a
community
benefit
submission
and
had
had
it
be
rejected
by
the
city,
as,
as
you
know,
inadequate
or
lacking
in
some
way
and
just
curious,
as
you
know,
is
it
just
a
matter
of
putting
in
the
report
and
then
that's
it
or
are
do?
Do
you
ever
give
feedback
to
the
institution
about
where
they
may
be
falling
short
or
whether
they're
doing
some
great
job.
C
So
I'll
take
the
first
one
counselor
and
then
I'll.
Let
casey
take
the
take
the
report
question.
So
I
think,
as
as
I
we
said
earlier,
you
know
we're
just
starting
the
process.
I
think
of
starting
this
task
force,
so
we're
going
to
invite
all
of
the
long
time,
partners
and
all
the
long
time
folks
who
are
sort
of
invested
in
this
work
and
we're
going
to
be
sort
of
sharing
the
full
list
in
in
the
weeks
ahead.
C
But
it'll
certainly
have
council
representation
on
it,
sort
of
community
and
advocate
representation,
and
then
certainly
the
the
valued
institutions
who
are
are
sort
of
providing
their
resources
will
be
key
members
of
it.
Because
that's
really
what
made
the
first
task
force
a
success
ten
years
ago,
because
it
had
really
buy-in
from
all
all
the
different
players.
So
we
definitely
look
forward
to
including
that
same
type
of
group
going
forward.
Casey.
G
J
Sure
so,
counselor
braden,
my
team
reads
all
the
reports
that
come
in
across
all
the
institutions
and
that's
the
fun
task
of
going
through
all
of
them.
You
know
as
what
we've
seen
for
the
fy
20
years
I
mentioned
there
were
in
some
institutions
who
did
not
submit
at
all
and
then
for
the
ones
that
did
submit.
We
did
go
through
the
process
of
kind
of
going
through
the
framework
on
them.
J
I
believe
I
don't
have
the
exact
number
in
front
of
me,
but
it
was
around
17
or
18
programs
that
were
not
eligible
last
year
for
a
variety
of
different
reasons.
Sometimes
they
were
covered
in
an
institutional
imp
agreement
like
we
talked
about
earlier,
which
is
a
separate
program.
J
They
were
something
that
we
did
not
believe
was
a
community
benefit,
as
defined
by
the
initial
task,
or
certainly
something
that
was
important
to
boston,
but
not
something
that
was
outlined
under
the
initial
framework,
so,
for
example,
salaries
paid
to
boston
residents
or
spend
by
students
at
boston,
restaurants,
again
incredibly
important
to
our
economy,
incredibly
important
to
the
city
of
boston.
But
it
is
not
a
part
of
the
community
benefits,
as
outlined
in
the
task
force.
D
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
counselor
brayden
going
next
to
counselor
arroyo,
then
counselor
campbell
and
I
just
want
to
know
you're
also
joined
by
my
colleague,
counselor
julia
mejia
at
large
counselor
roya.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'll,
try
and
make
this
short,
because
my
connection
isn't
great,
but
in
terms
of
what
I've
heard
outlined
in
terms
of
community
benefits,
it's
obvious
that
some
of
these
institutions
do
offer
real
community
benefits
and
then,
in
some
cases
they
label
other
things
as
community
benefits.
F
That,
I
think,
would
be
debatable
or
disputable,
but
in
terms
of
doing
a
study
as
to
the
true
cost
of
these
institutions
to
the
city
of
boston,
have
we
ever
done
anything
like
that
and
to
just
kind
of
make
clear
what
I'm
asking
when
I
was
in
chicago
for
law
school?
They
were
trying
to
model
our
pilot
program
and
what
they
realized
after
they
had
done.
F
A
study
of
the
institutions
is
what
they
were
asking
for
from
the
institutions
financially
through
pilot
wasn't
actually
even
breaking,
even
with
the
resources
that
the
city
spent
like
trash,
pickup
or
policing
or
healthcare,
or
any
of
the
data
in
terms
of
ems,
the
kinds
of
things
that
they
were
costing
the
city
from
a
youth
standpoint
that
they
weren't
paying
taxes
into
and
so
have.
We
ever
done
a
similar
study
here
for
our
boston
institutions.
C
So
I'll
let
nick
thank
you
for
the
questions,
counselor
very,
very
appropriate
for
this
conversation,
so
I'll,
let
nick
jump
in
on
the
details
of
what
the
task
force
in
2010
looked
like,
but
generally
speaking,
yes,
as
part
of
the
original
task
force
recommendations,
we
did
look.
The
city
did
look
at
sort
of
what
were
you
know,
costs
that
were
incurred
because
of
increased
911
calls
or
you
know,
increased
trash
pickup
most
of
those
institutions
have
their
own
police
or
fire
units,
and
most
of
those
institutions
have
their
own
trash
pickup.
C
So
some
of
the
costs
that
a
typical
resident
may
be
you
know
getting
from
the
city
is
sort
of.
There
is
no
benefit
for
the
institution,
but
nick.
Why
don't
you
maybe
have
some
specifics
on
what
exactly
we
looked
at
before.
I
Yeah
sure
happy
to
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
so
to
answer
your
question:
counselor
royale,
the
original
framework
and
the
framework
that
the
city
has
been
operating
off
of
for
quite
some
time
is
a
is
a
25
concept
and
the
25
figure
is
establishing
a
request
based
on
25
of
institutions,
assessed
property
value,
and
that
was
established.
I
I
Things
like
fire
police
street
cleanup
snow
removal,
these
these
aspects
that
really
benefit
every
property
in
the
city
and
so
a
few
times
that
that
has
been
looked
at
over
the
over
the
decades.
I
That's
come
up
to
be
about
25
of
the
revenue
that
is
generated
by
property
taxes
in
in
terms
of
a
portion
of
the
city's
budget,
and
so
that
figure
is
the
current
basis
for
the
request
to
institutions
now
in
terms
of
the
voluntary
payments
that
we
look
for
every
year
and
that
25
percent
figure
is
then
what
institutions
can
get
a
credit
towards
in
their
their
community
benefit
submissions.
I
So
we
we
look
for.
Overall,
the
program
is
seeking
a
large
amount
of
cash
contributions
and
then
the
current
program
provides
an
opportunity
to
get
a
credit
towards
that
cash
request.
And
so
that's
that's.
What
we're
talking
about
community
benefits
and
credits
and
50
caps?
That's
all
in
a
credit
towards
our
overall
program.
F
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
sort
of
in-depth
question
and
then
I
guess
the
question
is
moving
forward.
Is
there
is
this
part
of
what
the
task
force
is
going
to
be
figuring
out,
or
is
there
a
plan
in
place
to
make
sure
that
we're
sort
of
updating,
because
obviously
the
property
tax
payments
that
we're
making
those
haven't
been
updated
in
quite
some
time
in
terms
of
what
their
property
land
tax
assessments
were?
But
is
there
a
sort
of
plan
in
motion?
F
Is
there
anything
that's
being
currently
done
or
anything,
that's
related
to
this
task
force,
that's
going
to
sort
of
regularize
or
create
a
regular
schedule.
I
don't
know
if
I
just
invented
that
word
but
create
a
regular
schedule
for
these.
These
sorts
of
updates
to
the
property,
tax
and
or
the
assessments
of
sort
of
what
the
cost
is
and
and
arrange
or
or
affect
that
percentage
that
we
ask
for.
I
Sure
so
I
think
we
we
made
an
announcement
last
year
that
the
assessment
department
is
revisiting
the
values
of
the
charitable
property
around
the
city
and
that's
a
process
that
we
are
working
on
this
calendar
year,
where
we
have
that
lined
up
with
our
regular
valuation
process
for
all
of
real
estate.
So
right
now
we're
kind
of
in
a
data
collection
phase
and
then
we're
going
to
be
developing
valuation
standards
and
we're
going
to
be
looking
for
value
approvals
in
the
fall
and
into
the
early
winter.
I
B
H
Can
you
hear
me
yep,
we
can
hear
you
a
lot
of
claire
excellent.
Thank
you.
So
I
appreciate
the
task
force.
I
remember
talking
about
it
in
some
hearings
ago
about
how
we
wanted
to
make
sure
community
was
more
informative
of
what
defining
what
is
community
benefits.
So
I
thank
you.
This
is
good
leadership.
I'm
excited
about
this
conversation.
H
C
So
I
think
the
task
force
itself
will
meet
this
year
to
make
decisions
for
fy23
right,
so
we're
about
to
go
into
fy
21
in
two
and
a
half
weeks.
The
goal
would
be
to
have
a
process
over
the
next
six
to
eight
months
so
that
we
can
get
it
ready,
as
nick
mentioned,
for
the
fy23
budget
process,
which
obviously
we'll
be
going
through
next
spring.
H
Okay,
so
you
expect
to
have
recommendations
in
the
next
six
to
eight
months
for
next
year.
C
C
So,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we're
going
to
invite
the
same
partners
that
we've
had
in
the
past,
and
I
think
that
we'll
be
finalizing
that
list
in
the
coming
weeks.
C
It'll
certainly
have
representatives
from
all
the
institutions,
universities,
hospitals,
arts
and
culture-
certainly,
who
are
definitely
an
important
piece
of
this
who
we
don't
want
to
lose
on.
The
council,
obviously
advocates
in
the
community
will
be
invited
and
then
the
the
administration
and
the
city
will
be
providing
the
you
know,
staff
and
support
as
as
needed.
H
Great
I
I
guess
I
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
an.
I
would
love
some
more
clarity
on
how
the
community's
going
to
inform
the
goals
of
this
task
force.
Right
now,
it
seems
like
we're
going
to
have
a
meeting
like
everyone's
involved.
It's
a
stakeholder
and
in
six
to
eight
months,
somehow
somewhere
we're
going
to
get
to
some
sort
of
goals
that
maybe
get
to
a
goal
or
get
to
some
some
defined
goals.
H
I
would
love,
maybe
some
in
a
follow-up
hearing
or
in
a
follow-up
announcement
like
who
on
the
council
is
all
the
council
members
have
a
seat
on
this
task
force.
Is
that
what
you're
saying
are
there
seats
on
this
task
force?
Are
there
votes
on
this
task
force?
What
is
this.
C
Of
that,
so
we
we
will
be
inviting
the
chair
of
the
committee
to
to
sit
on
it
as
the
representative
of
the
council,
given
the
the
obviously
the
the
role
she
plays
now
with
the
new
committee,
I
I
don't,
I
think,
we're
gonna
defer
to
the
council
to
decide
sort
of
what
the
structure
is.
I
don't
think
it'll
be
a
a
formal
voting
structure
where
people
are
sort
of
appointed
the
the
goal
will
be,
though,
to
get
everyone
involved,
because
that's
the
the
way
you
make
the
community
benefits
portion.
C
I
think
work
for
everyone
is
that
you
have
to
bring
the
institutions
you
have
to
bring
the
community
and
you
have
to
bring
sort
of
the
administration
and
the
city,
including
city
council,
to
to
make
sure
that
we
provide
the
oversight
of
that
that
process.
So
I
think
it
will
be
a
little
bit
of
a
evolving
process
about
what
the
final
form
looks
like
and
what
the
final
product
looks
like.
But
it
is
something
that
you
know.
We
want
to
be
very
transparent
and
accountable,
so
we
get
buy-in
for
everybody.
J
The
only
thing
the
only
thing
I'll
add
is,
I
think
we
expect
this
to
be
a
really
working
task
force
right
as
we've
scoped
it
out
we're
talking
about.
You
know
we're
still
in
in
initial
phases
of
it.
I
think
we're
talking
about
right.
Monthly
meetings
like
we
know,
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
on
this
to
to
push
the
agenda
forward,
and
so
you
know
we
want
the
task
force
to
really
be
a
working
task
force.
So
we
can
get
to
a
set
of
recommendations
to
help
us
move
forward
together.
H
H
C
H
Right
and
well,
I'm
maybe
I'm
confused.
I
wasn't
sure
how
many
community
members
actually
felt
that
they
had
a
seat
at
that
table,
but
there
was
money
discussed
right
and
they
came
up
with
the
current
procedures
right
that
they
paid
attention
to
for
one
year
and
then
have
promptly
somewhat
ignored
kind
of
followed
through
for
some
time.
H
So,
certainly
one
thing
I'd
love
to
make
sure
that
this
task
force
does
is
come
up
with
an
enforcement
mechanism
or
some
sort
of
way,
even
if
you're
kicked
off
the
task
force,
if
you
don't
pay
or
something,
but
this
is
the
modeled
off
2010.
I
understand
we're
leading
the
nation,
but
it's
if
everyone
else
is
is
so
poor
at
it
that
leadership
shouldn't
be
so
lauded.
H
It
shouldn't
be
treated
as
like
the
goal
and
end
goal,
I
mean
we
we'll
go
back
and
forth
about
how
we're
measuring
our
leadership
right
and
we
use,
I
think,
a
different
year.
We
should
be
using
modern
assessment
of
taxes
and
property
would
actually
probably
show
a
bigger
gap
in
what
they're
supposed
to
be
paying.
So
those
are
all
things
I
hope
that
are
on
the
table.
You
know
I
have
the
ordinance
that
we
also
are
going
to
be
pushing
for
this
year
to
solidify
certain
things.
I
think
actually
in
the
ordinance.
H
I
may
have
mentioned
something
about
a
task
force,
or
you
know,
assessment
of
community
benefits
so
great
kudos
that
we're
already
having
that
conversation.
But
you
know
the
reason
why
we
push
for
ordinances
and
push
for
firmer
or
firm
goals
is
because
of
my
biggest
concern
that
the
task
force
of
2010
got
us
a
big
lump
push
and
then
it's
dwindled
out,
but
we've
never
really
assessed
how
to
how
to
bring
them
back
to
the
table
in
a
real
way.
That's
going
to
make
them
consistent
and
pay.
According
to
2021
2022
2023
assessed
values.
I
Do
I
I
think
I
can
speak
about
this
for
a
minute,
so
respectfully,
I
think
from
2010
to
the
present,
there
has
been
an
enormous
amount
of
evolution
in
the
program
and
an
enormous
amount
of
growth,
and
I
think
you
can
see
that
if
you
just
look
back
at
the
historical
numbers
and
kind
of
how
they
progressed
every
year,
I
think
that
this
is
an
opportunity
to
revisit
the
existing
program
and
look
for
those
areas.
I
That
can
be
better,
but
this
is
not
something
where
the
administration
feels
like
it
should
be
dictating
we're
done
about
a
voluntary
program.
We're
talking
about
a
program
where
the
the
whole
reason
that
I
see
it
to
have
a
task
force
in
this
instance
is
not
to
dictate
those
results.
It's
not
to
tell
the
task
force.
This
is
what
you're
going
to
do
it's
to
bring
people
together
to
see
what
we
have
and
to
kind
of
have
an
open
dialogue
about
what
can
be
better
and
what
can't
be
so.
I
H
I'll
just
push
back
on
that
say:
we
community
has
been
coming
together.
The
pilot
task
force,
which
I'm
sure
you'll
hear
from,
and
several
hearings
from
city
council
to
talk
about
this
continually
about
where
the
gaps
are
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
the
biggest
concern
right
is
that
for
me,
right
now
is
to
announce
and
to
do
a
task
force
that
is
essentially,
it
seems
to
have
no
laudable,
not
laudable
seems
to
have
no
clear
define
what
we're
gonna
do
get
out
of
it
and
move
on
and
how
we're
gonna
get
there.
H
It's
a
concern,
there's
just
one
more
kind
of
community
conversation
that
we
feel
good
about
having,
but
it
doesn't
actually
result
in
anything,
that's
my
concern,
and
so
when
I'm
asking
these
questions
you
you
announced
the
task
force.
You
guys
came
up
with
it.
So
what's
the
deadline
to
get
things
done,
who's
going
to
be
on
it
and
how
you
make
decisions?
I
don't
think
these
are
difficult.
Conversations
are
difficult
questions.
I
don't
think
they're
getting
the
cart
before
the
horse.
I
think
these
are
things
that
you
should
have
answers
to.
C
Yeah
and
counselor,
I
think
that
what
we're
trying
to
get
at
is,
you
know,
we're
talking
about
a
voluntary
program,
so
we
need
to
buy
in
from
all
the
partners
at
the
table,
so
we
can't
dictate
to
them
right
right
at
this
moment
what
the
outcomes
are
going
to
be
or
sort
of
what
the
final
deadlines
are
going
to
be.
I
think
we
have
a
good
set
of
sort
of
timeline
of
what
we
want
to
take
place.
It
coincides
with
the
re-value
that
we're
doing
right
now.
C
It
coincides
with
getting
ready
for
the
fy
23
budget.
We
wouldn't
want
to
sort
of
restart
the
program
right
in
the
middle
of
budget
season,
so
I
think
we
have
a
timeline
that
that's
going
to
work
and
it's
going
to
be
up
to
the
partners
from
all
sides
of
the
conversation
to
come
together
around
a
solution,
because
that's
what
happened
before
and
I
think
we
just
want
to
focus
this
fourth
part-
maybe
maybe
because
we
missed
it
in
2010
around
the
community
benefits
piece.
C
So,
that's
why
I
think
we're
focusing
on
that
to
start
with,
so
we
can
get
that
community
driven
conversation
and
that
community
advocacy
that
I
know
folks
at
the
council
level
at
the
advocacy
level
have
been
having
for
years.
We
want
to
bring
that
to
a
more
formal
process
with
the
administration,
with
the
institutions
and
with
everyone
at
the
table
to
get
to
a
a
better
solution.
H
Right-
and
I
just
putting
it
on
this,
then
for
the
task
force
or
for
the
chairwoman
who's
going
to
be
sitting
on
the
task
force.
I
hope
one
of
the
deliberate
roles
as
soon
as
possible
is
a
community-led
list
of
only
acceptable
forms
of
community
benefits
such
that
it
is
informed
by
the
people
and
the
community
that
are
impacted
negatively
by
the
institution
and
the
institutional
creep
that
is
happening
in
many
of
the
neighborhoods.
H
I
would
hope
that
then,
the
community
benefits
list
is
driven
by
them,
and
that
is
a
firm
list
of
you
know
like.
I
would
also
look
again
to
the
chair
when
dealing
with
developers
coming
up
with
a
list
of
acceptable
mitigation
for
the
new
zoning
amendment.
I'd
like
to
see
something
like
that.
That's
informed
by
the
community
pick
one
of
these
pick
three
of
these
pick
something
of
these
for
you
to
qualify
and
meet
your
community
benefit
agreement
obligations.
H
That's
what
I
think
actually
is
going
to
help
really
inform,
but
also
not
allow
for
the
silliness,
which
has
happened
from
some
institutional
partners
of
saying,
for
example,
that
because
the
their
students,
their
private
high
school,
that,
by
virtue
of
having
those
students
go
to
high
school
there,
that
that
was
their
community
benefits
right.
I
think
we've
seen
enough
of
what
happens
when
the
institutions
inform
or
water
down
what
is
community
and
what's
an
actual
benefit,
and
I
don't
want
to
accept
that
ever
again.
H
J
K
So
I
just
kind
of
want
to
echo
some
of
the
same
sentiments
that
counselor
edwards
just
brought
up
in
terms
of
the
the
accountability
piece.
More
specifically
for
me
is
who
is
at
the
table
and
how
we're
defining
these
seats,
and
I
would
advocate
that
we
are
leading
with
community
and
it.
And
while
I
do
appreciate
having
the
institutions
at
the
table
because
they're
definitely
key
stakeholders
but
oftentimes
those
who
are
really
living,
the
realities
are
not
as
present
or
as
vocal.
K
So
I
think
overwhelmingly,
we
I'd
love
to
see
more
community
members,
and
I
also
think
it
would
be
great
for
us
to
have
folks
from
the
housing
space
involved
in
these
conversations,
because
we
know
that
a
lot
of
these,
I'm
speaking
specifically
around
some
of
these
institutions
that
are
occupying
a
lot
of
space
and
oftentimes
they're
literally
pricing
people
out
of
these
neighborhoods.
So
I'd
like
to
see
some
some
representation
in
the
task
force
that
are
advocates
in
the
housing
space
as
well
as
workforce
development.
K
I
think,
when
I
think
about
community
benefits.
I
I'd
love
to
see
our
universities
leaning
in
more
to
work
force,
and
I
also
think
that
I,
in
terms
of
accountability,
would
love
to
see
metrics
right
quarterly
goals
that
are
being
set
forth
and
that
there's
a
way
for
us
to
measure
the
outcomes
and
that
there
needs
to
be
a
regular
and
consistent
communication
to
the
public
about
what
this
work
is
is
looking
like
and
that
that
the
community.
K
Aside
from
that,
you
know
that
we
have
a
task
force,
but
that
there
is
a
level
of
high
engagement
with
with
with
the
community,
whether
that
is
convening
people
and
sharing
out
here's
where
we're
at
here's.
What
we're
doing
here
are
some
of
the
hiccups
that
we
have
come
across
like
I.
C
I
love
the
idea
of
metrics
counselor.
I
think
it's
a
great.
I
want
to
do
two
things
one.
I
want
to
take
down
the
notes
you
had
about
bringing
housing
advocates
and
housing
members
to
the
to
the
forefront
of
the
community-based
conversation
and-
and
I
think
that
we'll
certainly
take
that
back
and
then
two
on
the
metric
side.
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
perfect
opportunity
for
the
council,
the
task
force,
both
the
institutions
and
the
community
to
sort
of
come
together.
C
What
are
the
metrics
that
we
want
to
keep
track
of
and
what
are
the
sort
of
benefits
that
we
want
to
be
tracking
on
a
quarterly
basis
or
or
yearly
basis,
because
you're
right
right
now
it
is
mostly
just
you
know.
Did
you
submit
your
community
benefits
report?
How
much
credit
are
you
getting
you
know,
and
then
what
was
your
cash
contribution
so
adding
more
metrics,
I
think,
could
certainly
be
sort
of
within
the
purview
and
then
using
that
to
hold
everyone
accountable,
I
think
is,
is
a
great
idea.
K
Yeah
and
then
I
I'd
like
to
if
the
task
force,
what
does
the
the
when
we
talk
about
accountability?
K
What
are
we
going
to
do
for
those
players
that
are
not
keeping
up
to
par
with
those
benefits
right
these
folks,
who
are
always
in
constant
violation
right
at
what
point
are
we
going
to
actually
really,
I
guess
not,
I
wouldn't
say,
punish
them,
but
like
something
has
to
give
right.
We
need
to
have
some
very
specific
language
that
people
understand
that
we're
not
here
to
play,
games
anymore
right,
and
I
think
that
we've
given
a
lot
of
people
a
pass
for
far
too
long
and
at
some
point
the
task
force.
K
It
would
be
helpful
if
the
task
force
can
make
the
recommendations
of
what
happens
when
you're,
not
when
you're,
in
violation
of
not
paying
your
your
fair
share
and-
and
I
think
that
we
as
a
city
need
to
be
accountable
to
that
justin,
and
I
think
that
the
task
force
is
well
positioned
to
clearly
define
what
that
what
that
penalty
is.
C
Thanks
counselor
yeah,
no,
it's
it's
a
top
and
I
actually
think
to
somebody
council,
edward
said
about
holding
them
accountable.
If,
if
their
community
benefits
doesn't
meet,
the
doesn't
pass
the
test
of
the
task
force.
I
think
that
that's
our
our
really
only
stick
in
this
situation.
It's
a
voluntary
program
at
the
end
of
the
day.
I
think
that's
why
we
we
so
value
the
institutions
being
a
part
of
the
task
force
because
they'll
be
able
to
both
hold
themselves
accountable
but
also
hold
their
compatriots
and
their
their
colleagues
accountable.
C
For
you
know,
holding
up
both
their
end
of
the
community
benefit
portion,
but
also
the
cash
portion.
So
I
think
metrics
are
on
those
lines.
I
think
the
you
know
looking
at
what
types
of
things
qualify
for
community
benefits
would
certainly
be
the
not
the
lowest
hanging
fruit,
but
certainly
some
of
the
areas
that
I
think
that
the
task
force
can
address
and
and
can
consider.
But
again
we
don't
want
to
dictate.
You
know
before
the
the
task
force
has
had
a
chance
to
meet.
K
Right-
and
so
I
would
just
I
know
before,
I
see
that
gamble,
I'm
sure,
kenzie
council
brock-
has
it
ready
to
go.
Is
that
when
we
think
about
the
the
usual
suspects
of
folks
who
we've
had
the
most
problems
with,
they
should
be
at
the
table
and
they
should
be
willing
and
ready
and
eager
and
enthusiastic,
that
they've
been
invited
to
the
table
and
they
should
not
get
a
pass
and
they
should
come
ready
to
be
a
partner
and
do
whatever
it
takes
to.
K
You
know
satisfy
the
needs
of
the
community,
which
is
this
is
supposed
to
be
the
benefit
of
the
community.
And
while
I
appreciate
it
being
voluntary
at
the
end
of
the
day,
they
have
a
responsibility
to
show
up
in
ways
that
make
it
seem
like
they
deeply
do
care
about.
The
the
people
that
live
in
the
city
of
boston.
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
councilman
here
and
yeah
definitely
agree.
B
I
think
so,
as
folks
know
we're
we're
just
about
to
be
at
four
o'clock
and
we
do
have
the
pilot
action
group
keyed
up
to
talk
to
us
on
the
next
panel
about
sort
of
community
benefits
and
obviously
the
pilot
action
group
have
been
many
advocates
on
this
issue
and
in
fact,
in
fact,
have
also
been
advocates
for
a
task
force
on
on
pilot,
so
so
excited
to
hear
from
them
and
then
we're
going
to
also
go
to
a
panel
of
the
institutions.
B
K
Yeah
yeah.
Sorry,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
administration
is
saying
I'm
asking
whether
or
not
the
administration
is
going
to
stay
on
for
when
the
advocates
are
speaking
to
just
because
I
feel
like
oftentimes,
there's
some
really
good,
rich
dialogue
that
happens
when
they're
in
the
space.
So
just
a
question
I
may
be
out
of
luck.
We
will
all.
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
all
right.
So
then,
without
further
ado,
I
want
to
go
over
we've,
we're
being
we're
being
joined
for
this
panel.
Well
first,
I
should
thank
chief
starrett
and
casey
and
nick
for
joining
us
and
then
going
now
on
this
panel,
we'll
hear
from
enid
eckstein
who's.
B
The
coordinator
of
the
pilot
action
group,
cassian
fonte
from
the
who's,
the
black
mass
coalition
manager
from
becma
nia
evans,
the
executive
director
of
the
bosnia,
ujima
project,
core
tina
van
community
organizer
at
maha,
and
anthony
desadora,
the
president
of
the
civic
association
out
in
allston.
I
think,
but
anthony
you
can
correct
me
sorry
so,
enid
to
you.
First
enid,
you're,
muted,.
L
Yes,
typical
zoom
you're,
muted
hi.
Can
you
hear
me
now?
Yes,
we
can
great,
so
my
name
is
enid
xstein
and
the
pilot
action
group
for
people
who
do
not
know
is
the
coalition
of
labor
community
faith-based
organizations
fighting
to
build
a
stronger
pilot
program.
L
I
think
we'll
follow
up
with
some
recommendations
to
the
council
on
what
we
think
the
composition
would
be,
but
I
would
say
that
listening
just
now
definitely
concerned
about
a
couple
of
issues:
composition.
We
want
to
make
sure
this
is
led
by
community
voices
since
we're
talking
about
community
and
community
benefits.
L
We
obviously
want
to
ensure
the
pilot
action
group,
which
I
think
has
pushed
and
been
the
annoying
relatives
who
sometimes
get
invited
that
we
have
a
seat
at
the
table
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
increasing
oversight
and
accountability
and
clear
goals
for
the
recommendation
for
the
committee.
We
know
that
there
are
some
really
positive
things
about
the
pilot
program,
but
we
believe
that
we
need
to
bring
it
up
to
21,
2020,
2020,
2021
and
also
beyond
so
today.
L
L
First
of
all,
yes,
the
institutions
play
an
important
role
in
our
city,
but
let's
be
clear,
they're
not
going
anywhere
and
we
need
to
engage
in
a
real
dialogue
with
them
about
what
the
future
of
our
city
looks
like.
So
I
would
say:
there's
a
number
of
things:
one
is
we
need
to
align
community
benefit
spending
with
current
needs
of
the
city.
We
can
look
and
we
should
ask
what
are
our
priorities
as
a
city.
L
The
recent
community
health
needs
assessment
that
the
hospitals
did,
I
think,
provides
a
good
map
for
the
city.
Yes,
it
was
hospitals,
but
I
don't
believe,
there's
a
distinction
between
one
end
of
mission
hill
that
the
brigham
sits
on
and
the
other
end
of
mission
hill,
where
northeastern
sits,
same
problems,
displacement,
gentrification,
food
insecurity,
etc.
L
So
we
know
that
there's
a
metric
within
health
care,
it's
called
the
social
determinants
of
health,
very
clear
and
we
believe
that's
what
the
city
should
be
encouraging
its
institutions
to
invest
in,
but
we
find
that
much
of
the
current
investment
in
community
benefits
is
not
in
that
area.
So
we
need
to
ask:
we
need
to
set
certain
criteria
for
what
community
investment
is
and
we
need
to
ensure
that
institutions
have
a
good
strategy
and
understand
which
social
determinants
of
health
they
should
be
in.
We
need
to
create
a
written
standard
definition
of
community
benefits.
L
At
our
hearing
several
years
ago,
several
institutions
asked
about
community
benefits
and
they
were
told.
Well,
there
wasn't
a
current
standard.
I
sat
on
the
attorney
general's
task
force
when
the
attorney
general
did.
The
revalu
did
the
looking
at
community
benefits
and
we
created
a
standard
framework
for
looking
at
community
benefits.
We
believe
that's
a
good
starting
point
for
the
city.
We
need
to
ensure
there's
also
strategic
investment
of
benefits,
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
in
the
last
10
years,
there's
approximately
380
million
that
has
been
forgiven
in
community
benefits.
L
Imagine
if
there
had
been
four
thought
about
where
we
could
collectively
and
invest
those
benefits,
and
we
had
picked
a
few
projects
that
could
have
been
a
game
changer
for
the
city
and
really
a
true
model
for
pilot.
We
need
to
create
transparency
and
bring
decision
making
into
the
public
sphere.
Pilot
funds
are
offset
by
the
city
as
part
of
the
pilot
process.
These
are
not
decisions
that
should
be
made
between
the
city
hall,
between
city
hall
and
the
institutions.
L
We
believe
these
decisions
need
to
be
made
publicly
in
a
participatory
process
that
highlights
the
needs
of
marginalized
communities,
especially
the
needs
of
the
surrounding
community,
whether
it's
the
northeastern
community,
the
austin,
brighton
community,
etc.
We
need
to
create
true
community
engagement
in
decision
making.
I
would
say
that
the
institutions
may
tell
you
they
have
committees
and
they
make
decisions.
In
many
cases
these
are
window
dressing,
they're
picked
members
are
picked
by
the
institutions
and
often
decisions
get
rubber
stamped
by
the
committee.
We
need
to
the
attorney
general
has
a
process.
L
The
department
of
public
health
have
a
process,
those
are
starting
points
and
I
have
two
more
recommendations.
There
should
be
a
standardized
annual
report
that
really
breaks
out
the
community
benefits,
requests
and
cash
and
creates
a
ranking
about
whether
institutions
are
actually
publicly
meeting
their
requests
for
investment
and
social
determinants.
L
And,
lastly,
I
think
an
important
one
is
that
we
need
a
new
social
contract
in
our
city.
We
all
have
been
through
a
very
difficult
year.
Our
city
faces
a
crisis
of
inequity,
structural
racism,
etc.
We
cannot
afford
to
be
just
a
city
of
the
wealthy.
Our
institutions
are
an
important
fabric
of
the
city.
We
understand
that
smaller
institutions
may
be
challenged,
but
let
us
be
clear:
we
have
some
of
the
richest
institutions
in
the
world
sitting
in
boston.
L
Many
of
the
institutions
saw
their
endowments
grow
at
a
good
clip.
Last
year,
mgh
brigham
system
sits
on
almost
4
billion
in
assets
just
for
their
boston
hospitals.
So
my
question
is
how
about
investing
in
low-cost
housing
or
how
about
madison
park
high
school
or
any
of
a
number
of
projects
that
are
really
critical
programs
to
the
future
of
our
city.
This
is
a
year
when
we
need
to
think
outside
the
box.
We
need
to
create
a
true
pilot
program.
We
work
together
to
address
the
city's
needs.
L
We
welcome
the
cities
in
the
mayor
and
the
city's
announcement
of
starting
a
committee.
We
believe
the
work
should
begin,
but
we
also
believe
that
we
should
have
a
vision
for
what
pilots
should
be,
which
is
a
true
pilot
agreement
to
really
look
at.
How
do
we
address
social
inequity
in
our
city
and
how
do
we
use
the
moment,
we're
in
to
really
look
at
a
true
recovery
that
asks
the
institutions
to
come
to
the
table
and
be
creative
and
really
address
changes
in
this
pilot
program?
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
counselor
and
thank
you
enid
for
that
brilliant
introduction.
Good
afternoon
everyone.
My
name
is
cassian
fonte
and
I
am
the
manager
for
the
black
mass
coalition
or
bmc.
M
For
short,
bmc
is
a
network
of
organizations
that
includes
members
like
the
black
economic
council
of
massachusetts,
bakma,
king
boston,
the
boston
ujima
project
and
the
north
american
indian
center
of
boston,
and
our
coalition
was
formed
in
june
2020
as
a
response
to
the
racial
reckoning
following
the
death
of
george
floyd,
in
which
we
produce
the
blueprint
that
identifies
tangible
actions
that
address
racial
injustice
across
sectors
such
as
private
anchor
institutions
and
government,
and
so
our
work
in
mission
is
radically
simple
but
urgent.
M
We
believe
that,
in
order
to
uplift
bipod
communities,
we
must
transform
the
city
and
our
commonwealth
economically
across
sectors
and
shift
the
balances
of
power
to
those
for
who,
for
too
long
have
not
been
included,
and
I'm
here
today
on
behalf
of
our
coalition,
in
full
support
of
the
pilot
action
group,
it's
imperative
that
we
that
we
create
an
oversight
body
that
holds
these
institutions
accountable
for
full
participation,
while
also
providing
authentic,
transparent
community
engagement
on
what
constitutes
a
community
benefit.
M
Additionally,
as
boston
continues
to
emerge
from
the
pandemic,
it's
really
an
opportunity
for
us
to
reevaluate
the
role
of
these
major
anchor
institutions,
hospitals
and
universities,
as
interventions
have
access
to
significant
financial
resources
and
political
influence.
It
is
only
right
and
just
that
they
reinvest
in
our
communities
what
we
pour
into
their
bottom
line.
M
Many
of
these
institutions
covered
by
pilot,
have
increased
their
square
footage
and
land
use
within
the
city,
and,
while
these
institutions
and
and
the
economy
are
doing
relatively
well,
boston
continues
to
struggle
with
great
racial
wealth
and
equality.
M
With
one
study
that
I
know,
many
of
you
are
familiar
with,
the
color
of
wealth
published
in
2015
found
that
the
median
net
worth
of
the
black
household
is
eight
dollars
compared
to
247
000
for
the
median
white
household,
and
this
wealth
gap
is
a
major
cause
for
issues
like
the
lack
of
home
ownership
and
access
to
capital
to
start
a
new
venture,
all
of
which
continue
to
debilitate
upward
mobility
for
communities
of
color,
and
so
these
realities
really
drive
organizations
such
as
beckman
our
coalition
to
affirm
that
we
cannot
return
to
a
normal
that
didn't
work
for
us
and
we
must
create
a
new
normal
that
uplifts
black
businesses
and
communities,
and
that
closing
the
racial
wealth
gap
must
be
an
urgent
priority
for
us
and
so
listed
within.
M
Our
coalition's
blueprint
for
a
new
world
are
institutional
targets
for
non-profits,
including
the
fact
that
institutions
must
commit
to
100
participation
in
the
pilot
program
across
the
commonwealth.
That
means
full
cash
participation
and
a
redrawing
of
the
standards
of
community
benefits
to
ensure
that
funding
is
reaching
the
most
immediate
community
need,
and
the
current
pilot
statistics
made
available
by
the
city
of
boston
show
that
these
targets
are
that
institutions
are
falling
short
of
these
targets.
In
many
ways
you
know
over
the
last
five
years,
institutions
were
forgiven.
M
Some
380.8
million
dollars
in
community
benefit
offset.
We
believe
this
is
unacceptable.
We
are
shortchanging
our
own
communities
by
millions
of
opera
of
dollars
and
opportunities
for
growth.
M
M
So
in
closing,
here,
we're
really
here
to
urge
the
council
to
provide
again
for
that
community
engagement
oversight
and
alignment
of
the
pilot
program.
Our
coalition,
the
black
mass
coalition,
looks
forward
to
continuing
the
conversation
and
mobilizing
our
network
of
organizations.
Community
members
and
more
to
really
help
provide
guidance
and
accountability
for
this
important
initiative.
I
think
I
believe
our
communities
are
really
relying
on
all
of
us
to
work
together
collectively
and
that's
all
I
have
thank
you
for
your.
B
Time,
thank
you.
So
much
next
up,
we've
got
nia.
N
Nia
evans,
boston
ujima
project
three
years
ago.
As
part
of
our
strong
support
of
the
recommendations
outlined
in
a
pilot
report
by
enid,
eckstein
and
jonathan
rodriguez,
we
highlighted
the
call
to
create
a
community
engagement
process
to
oversee
and
guide
the
pilot
program.
We
applaud
the
positive
steps
the
city
has
taken
since
2018,
including
the
creation
of
the
pilot
committee
revaluation
of
the
pilot
properties
and,
as
of
today,
the
creation
of
the
2021
task
force
in
the
interest
of
building
upon
and
making
recent
positive
steps
meaningful.
N
Three
years
ago,
we
noted
that
there
is
no
space
for
boston
residents
themselves
to
meaningfully
understand
or
influence
pilot
contributions
that
are
made
on
residents
behalf.
This
is
still
the
case
as
a
reminder:
ujima
formed
from
a
drive
to
respond
to
boston's,
notorious
racial
health
and
wealth
divide
by
underwriting
our
people's
strength
directly
resourcing
what
we
call
our
economy,
builders,
our
small
businesses,
our
artists,
our
grassroots
organizations,
we've
created
a
multi-million
dollar
capital
fund
that
is
democratically
governed
and
directed
by
our
members
and
the
residents
of
our
communities.
N
We
built
a
participatory
process
because
we
believe
that
democracy
is
a
human
right
and
because
we
believe
that
meaningful
community-based
planning
results
in
a
better,
more
effective
allocation
of
resources
with
our
members.
First,
investment
vote
to
invest
in
federal,
cooperative,
a
black
and
latin
next
worker
owned
composting
co-op
that
recently
won
a
campus-wide
composting
contract
at
northeastern
university.
We've
started
to
make
the
case
for
community
engaged.
Participatory
processes
believe
now
becoming
knowledge
asking
and
listening
to
residents
who
are
most
impacted.
Centering.
N
Their
intimate
and
diverse
experiences
and
expertises
ensures
that
problems
and
solutions
needs
and
supports
actually
match
asking
and
listening
to
residents
who
are
most
impacted,
centering.
Their
intimate
and
diverse
experiences
and
expertise
results
in
actions
and
initiatives
that
are
forward-looking
and
innovative.
N
Three
years
ago,
we
noted
a
national
wave
of
participatory
budgeting
community-led
finance
public
banking,
catching
on
as
solutions
to
the
crises
of
economic
inequality
and
unaccountable
top-down
decision-making.
This
wave
continues
to
crest,
as
community-engaged
participatory
processes
have
recently
exhibited
the
ability
to
display
more
relevance
and
responsiveness
than
top-down
disconnected
unaccountable
processes.
N
Our
communities
speak
as
experts,
the
solutions
we
are
looking
for
are
here.
Our
fellow
residents
hold
them
and
our
city's
largest
institutions
only
need
to
embrace
and
meaningfully
partner
with
them
such
embrace
and
partnership
is
the
most
direct
path
to
equity
and
justice
for
all
boston
communities.
Thank
you.
O
Nice
to
see
you
as
well
counselor,
good
afternoon,
boston
city
councilors,
my
name
is
cortina
van
and
I
am
a
staff
member
with
massachusetts,
affordable
housing
alliance,
ma
maha
and
a
concerned
homeowner
in
the
community.
I
want
to
thank
councillor
kenzie
bach
and
councilor
braden
and
all
the
boston
city
councils
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
this
afternoon.
The
importance
of
the
pilot
program
in
the
city
of
boston.
O
Now
maha
is
a
membership-based
organization.
That's
dedicated
to
increasing
public
and
private
investment
in
affordable,
sustainable
home
ownership.
We
want
to
eliminate
the
racial
and
economic
inequality
in
the
homeownership
gap,
which
seems
to
be
growing
more
over
the
years.
According
to
harvard
staff
writer
liz
meneo
article,
this
recently
june
entitled
equality,
a
series
on
race
and
inequality
in
america.
The
net
wealth
of
a
typical
black
family
in
america
is
about
1
10,
that
of
a
white
family.
O
For
example,
looking
at
the
how
at
the
neighborhood
of
mission
hill,
the
percentage
of
students
living
there
has
grown
from
being
majority
local
city
residents
to
mostly
students
who
may
or
may
not
become
long-time
residents
in
the
area,
because
they
too
could
potentially
be
priced
out
of
the
rental
and
home
ownership
market.
Don't
get
me
wrong?
We
love
our
students
and
education
is
important
and
value
to
the
highest
regard.
O
I
believe
we
do
can
do
a
better
job
of
making
sure
we
do
not
exot
exile
and
undervalue
the
families
and
other
long
life
residents
who
patron
and
have
small
business
in
our
communities.
They
should
not
have
to
compete
for
housing
with
wealthy
boston,
non-profit
while
they
supply
the
these
accommodations
to
students
and
others
that
take
away
from
our
community.
They
have
caused
displacement
and
gentrification.
I
I
asked
I
am
myself.
O
We
are
the
families
that
I
ask
myself.
We
are
these
families
that
once
lived
in
these
two
and
three
family
homes
in
mission,
hill
and
various
sections
of
roxbury.
I
grew
up
in
roxbury
right
behind
roxbury
community
college.
I
see
the
difference
I
was
not
able
to
afford
to
buy
my
home
in
the
neighborhood.
I
grew
up
in
according
to
the
census
bureau.
At
the
end
of
2020,
the
homeownership
rate
for
black
families
stood
at
about
44
compared
to
75
for
white
families.
O
I
listened
to
the
struggles
of
our
maha
members,
first-time
homebuyer
graduates
that
work
at
some
of
our
local
hospitals
and
universities
and
colleges,
and
they
can't
afford
to
buy
some
of
our.
They
can't
afford
to
buy
a
home
in
boston
and
some
cannot
afford
to
rent
here
in
boston.
These
inhabitants
work
in
the
various
areas
of
the
institutions
from
like
housekeeping
security,
administration,
food
services,
nurses,
primary
care,
nurses,
etc.
O
O
The
racial
wealth
gap
is
real
and
getting
bigger
the
longer
nothing
is
being
done
as
I've
shared
at
maha.
We
focus
on
closing
the
racial
homeownership
gap
and
there
is
one
current
initiative
I
can
share
with
you
today
that
is
currently
helping
other
and
other
recommended
initiatives.
You
can
read
about
this
in
our
home
ownership,
justice
vision,
which
is
on
our
website
at
mahahuma.org.
O
So
the
current
initiative
I
want
to
wish
to
talk
about
is
maha
stash
program,
which
is
basically
was
started
with
a
small
seed
grant
from
children's
hospital,
and
so
it's
a
matching
fund
for
first
generation
home
buyers.
O
But
I
know
I
have
an
issue
with
time,
so
I
would
ask
people
to
read
the
testimony
and
visit
our
website
for
more
details
with
this
matching
funds
for
first-time
homebuyers,
so
what
we're
experiencing
boston
across
the
state
and
across
our
country
as
a
result
of
institutional
and
systematic
racism,
racism
is
a
health
crisis
right
now
our
nonprofit
institutions
have
the
opportunity
to
make
a
significant
investment
in
housing
that
could
help
change
the
the
widening
wealth
gap,
which
affects
everything.
Housing
affects
one's
health,
the
education,
mental
health,
stability
overall,
one's
quality
of
life.
O
Community
benefits
should
be
aligned
with
the
permanent
needs
of
the
community.
The
nonprofit
institutions,
investing
in
housing
could
be
leveraged
with
other
funds,
state
federal
endowment
funds
and
other
incentives.
We
must
have
a
strategic
vision
in
creating
policies,
programs
that
can
help
with
the
housing
crisis.
Programs
like
stash
one
plus
boston,
etc,
are
just
some
examples
currently
on
the
on.
Only
the
wealthy
boston
nonprofits
make
that
long
decision
to
determine
where
that
12.5
of
the
community
benefits
funds
are
spent.
The
current
decision-making
process
process
model
for
pilots
should
be
open,
transparent,
inclusive
with
community
residents.
O
Community
partners,
where
there's
an
open
dialogue
on
what
is
going
on
in
the
community,
clear
information
on
the
current
needs
and
disparities
and
an
agreement
on
what
can
be
done
to
solve
it
with
community
benefit
investment.
It
will
take
all
of
us
working
together
to
ensure
that
all
have
equal
access
to
achieve
the
american
dream
and
to
be
valued
regardless
of
race
and
financial
economic
disparity.
We
are
all
part
of
the
human
race
and
should
act
like
it.
I
do
want
to
applaud
the
administration
for
the
announcement
of
this
task
force.
O
P
P
I
applaud
the
efforts
of
this
council
in
directing
the
office
of
assessing
to
finally
update
the
valuations
of
tax-exempt
property,
not
only
because
it
is
the
right
thing
to
do,
but
it
will
put
in
stock
context
the
enormous
value
of
the
assets
and
the
opportunity
before
us
for
better
compliance
and
to
apply
these
resources
in
a
way
that
allows
all
bostonians
the
freedom
to
dream.
Big.
P
Although
we
have
good
working
relationships
with
those
from
government
and
community
relations,
the
destiny
of
our
community
is
being
determined
behind
closed
doors
with
little.
If
any
transparency
key
stakeholders,
both
public
and
private,
get
to
sit
at
the
table
while
those
most
effective
affected
and
those
who
have
the
most
to
offer
are
relegated
to
a
subordinate
road
for
private
educational
institutions
in
our
community
in
2019,
harvard
university
led
the
country
with
an
endowment
value
at
40.58
billion
dollars.
P
Boston
college
endowment
was
valued
at
2.58
billion
dollars
and
boston
university
endowment
was
valued
at
2.30
billion.
All
three
institutions
have
significant
real
estate
holdings
in
our
community
and
continue
to
pursue
a
robust
development
agenda
in
fy
2020,
harvard
university
and
boston
university,
improved
their
pilot
contributions
to
79
percent
and
87
respectfully
and
filed
community
benefit
reports.
P
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
will
keep
this
very
brief.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
who
participated
in
the
conversation
this
afternoon.
I
think
establishing
this
new
task
force
is
a
really
good
step
in
the
right
direction.
I
want
to
echo
the
concerns
of
all
the
advocates
that
it
needs.
We
need
to
have
a
robust
community
representation
in
the
process.
D
You
know,
as
tony
just
mentioned,
austin
brighton
is
deeply
affected
by
institutional
expansion
when
you
think
about
the
owner
occupancy
in
all
our
neighborhoods
across
the
city,
mission,
hill
and
and
alston
have
the
lowest
owner
occupancy
in
the
whole
city,
and
it's
because
the
universities
don't
house
their
most
of
their
students.
They
have
a
lot
of
off-campus
housing
and
it
really
drives
in
speculative
investment
and
outside
investors,
purchasing
homes
to
rent
to
students
and
that
money
doesn't
stay
in
the
neighborhoods.
It
doesn't
develop
our
infrastructure
and
doesn't
strengthen
our
communities.
D
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
councillor,
braden
yeah
and
I
just
wanted
to
say.
B
I
really
appreciate
all
those
comments
and
I
think
that
it
highlighted
the
reason
why
it's
so
important
for
us
to
have
community
advocates
involved
in
the
task
force
and
in
the
process
going
forward,
because
they've
done
so
much
work
to
think
about
how
this
program
could
work
better
on
the
community
benefit
side
and
because
they
have
so
much
experience
on
what
our
city
really
needs,
and
I
I
wanted
to
because,
because
she
got
cut
off
time-wise,
I
wanted
to
highlight
something
that
cortina
said
about
maha's
stash
program,
which
is
a
first
generation
homeownership
support,
matching
savings
program,
because
I
do
think
that's
an
example
to
me
of
something
where,
as
she
mentioned,
children's
hospital
supported
that
in
its
inception.
B
So
it's
you
know
it's
an
example
of
something
where
you're
talking
about
a
community
benefit,
but
it's
targeted
at
closing.
The
racial
wealth
gap
and
97
of
the
participants
are
people
of
color
and
it
actually
right,
like
it
actually
gets
folks
into
homes
and
building
equity.
And
I
think
that's
to
me.
I
said
at
the
beginning
that
you
know
cobit,
I
think,
was
a
real
eye-opener
for
us,
and
one
of
the
things
was
that
there
were
real
metrics.
There
was
a
real
sense
of
like:
where
are
we
on
hospital
beds?
B
Where
are
we
on?
You
know,
infections,
in
the
city,
folks,
you
know
who
are
recovering
or
not,
and-
and
I
just
think
that
there's
so
many
of
our
other
crises
in
the
city-
whether
it's
housing,
affordability
or
or
educational
opportunity
or
the
wealth
gap
where
the
proof
is
in
the
pudding
and
if
we
can
kind
of
make
our
whole
community
benefits
ecosystem.
B
You
know
community-led
and
targeted
outcomes
that
would
make
a
big
difference
so
grateful.
Thank
you
to
the
whole
pilot
action
group,
which
has
has
had
a
major
role
in
educating
both
the
council
and
the
public
on
this
issue,
and
as
was
mentioned
earlier,
we
have
an
extensive
report
from
them
which
has
been
shared
with
all
the
counselors
and
which
we're
happy
to
continue
to
share
with
members
of
the
public.
So
if
you
want
that
just
reach
out
ccc.pilot,
bossa
maca
and
we'll
give
you
a
copy.
B
Q
A
B
All
right
so
joining
us
now
for
our
third
panel,
we
have
tisch
mcmullen
who's,
the
executive
director
of
the
conference
at
boston
teaching,
hospitals,
carl
fiotino,
the
co-chair
of
the
boston,
dhna
chip,
collaborative
carl
I'll.
Let
you
explain
the
acronym
and
then
rob
mccarron,
I'm
the
president
of
the
association
of
independent
colleges
and
universities
in
massachusetts,
also
known
as
akim
and
just
before
they
go.
B
I
will
just
note
again
that
we've
received
written
testimony
additionally,
so
they're
they're
sort
of
speaking
on
behalf
of
a
few
of
the
different
sectors
who
participate
in
the
pilot
program,
but
we
have
also
received
written
testimony
from
boston
university,
fenway
alliance,
harvard
northeastern
university.
They
have
developed
your
gardener
museum
and
also
there's
a
joint
letter
from
sort
of
seven
of
the
largest
cultural
organizations,
the
museum
science
aquarium,
children's
museum
institute
of
contemporary
art,
foster,
tiffany
orchestra,
isabel
stewart,
garner
museum
and
the
museum
of
fine
arts.
B
So
that's
just
a
note
that,
in
addition
to
the
folks
that
you're
hearing
from
today,
we've
got
a
lot
of
written
testimony
and
it's
part
of
the
record,
all
counselors
that
receives
it
and
you
can
also
receive
it
at
the
member
of
public
if
you
reach
out
so
without
further
ado,
and
with
thanks
for
your
patience,
I
want
to
go
to
tish
mcmullen
from
the
conference
of
boston
teaching,
hospitals.
R
R
I
am
the
executive
director
of
the
conference
of
boston
teaching
hospitals,
a
non-profit
that
brings
together
teaching
hospitals
across
greater
boston
to
collaborate
together
in
a
number
of
areas,
including
community
benefits,
research,
emergency
preparedness,
emergency
medical
services.
In
other
areas,
we
are
privileged
to
partner
with
the
boston
public
health,
commission,
the
office
of
health
and
human
services
and
boston
ems.
R
These
programs
are
informed
by
robust
community
engagement
and
community
health
needs
assessments.
That's
the
china
that
guide
our
activities
and
investments
in
priorities
that
are
identified
by
the
community
that
respond
to
the
lived
experience
and
needs
of
boston
neighborhoods,
and
that
represent
an
overarching
commitment
to
achieving
racial
and
ethnic
health
equity.
R
Our
hospitals
have
contributed
more
than
117
million
in
cash
contributions
to
the
city
and
expended
at
least
137
million
in
community
benefits
programs
that
directly
benefit
city
of
boston
residents.
Our
hospitals
also
participate
in
a
larger
community
driven
collaborative,
and
you
will
hear
more
about
that.
R
We
are
convinced
that
the
success
of
the
city's
voluntary
pilot
program
to
date
stems
from
a
sense
of
shared
responsibility,
partnership
and
collaboration.
We
have
maintained
with
our
partners
in
the
city
of
boston.
At
the
program's
inception,
we
came
together
with
a
shared
sense
of
purpose
and
a
shared
sense
of
responsibility.
R
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
patricia
next
up
is
carl
schertino
carl.
S
Good
afternoon
counselor
balkan
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
for
having
me
testify
this
afternoon.
I'm
carl
schartino,
I'm
the
executive
vice
president
for
external
relations
at
fenway
health,
we're
a
federally
qualified
health
center
in
the
fenway
neighborhood,
but
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
boston,
china,
chip
collaborative
the
china
chip
collaborative
is
the
community
health
needs
assessment
and
community
health
improvement
plan
collaborative
that's
what
the
acronym
stands
for.
S
It's
a
bit
of
a
mouthful
apologies
for
that,
but
I
wanted
to
share
this
because
I
think
it
gives
some
context
to
what
I
think
is
a
really
unique
and
positive
example
of
community
engagement,
that's
leading
to
priorities
and
decision
making
by
institutions
that
are
a
member
of
the
members
of
the
collaborative.
So
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
brief
overview
of
this
project
this
year.
S
That's
the
mission
statement
of
the
collaborative
itself
and
when
I
looked
at
the
order
for
this
hearing,
the
reference
to
the
community
benefits
process
set
up
by
the
aeg
for
social
determinants
of
health,
for
the
hospitals
and
community
engagement
requirements,
as
well
as
the
requirements
that
are
applied
to
community
health,
centers
and
the
boston
public
health
commission
for
our
own
regulations
and
requirements.
S
We
brought
us
together
as
a
collaborative
to
make
sure
that
we
are
in
a
unified
way,
engaging
with
the
community
to
assess
the
needs
of
the
community
and
understand
how
we
can
make
a
more
impactful
result
by
actually
working
together
in
this
process.
So
the
collaborative
came
together
in
2018,
the
community
health
needs
assessment
was
started
in
2018.
S
The
community
health
improvement
plan
was
done
in
2019
and
then
2020
was
the
first
year
of
implementation,
which
was
quite
challenging
during
covid,
but
I'll
share
with
you.
What
each
of
those
steps
in
the
process
was
for
us
in
terms
of
who
makes
up
the
collaborative
the
steering
committee
itself
is
a
total
of
19
members,
which
includes
members
from
hospitals,
community
health,
centers,
public
health
officials,
including
from
the
boston
public,
health,
commission,
community
development
organizations
and
community
representatives,
and
in
addition
to
the
collaborative
steering
committee
itself
through
the
community
health
needs
assessment.
S
We
engaged
over
90
organizations
in
gathering
feedback
from
the
community
city-wide
to
make
sure
that
we
were
doing
a
robust
community
engagement
process
that
include
look
included.
Looking
at
secondary
data
from
the
city
itself,
a
variety
of
surveillance
systems
and
sources.
We
did
a
number
of
interviews,
45
interviews
of
organizational
community
leaders
across
sectors.
S
We
had
focus
groups
with
a
number
of
community
members
of
13
focus
groups
in
total,
including
in
multiple
languages,
and
we
did
a
community
survey
that
reached
over
2
400
residents.
So
we
were
trying
to
really
in
a
genuine
way
reach
a
large
sector
of
the
community,
get
representation,
in
particular
from
those
that
usually
are
underserved
and
under
heard
through
these
kinds
of
engagement
processes
and
the
collective
impact
of
assuming
that
together
made
that
possible.
S
S
So
after
we
did,
the
community
health
needs
assessment,
we
turned
to
creating
a
community
health
improvement
plan
which
is
essentially
saying.
Okay.
We
now
know
what
the
needs
are.
What
do
we
do
about
that?
How
can
we
begin
to
make
more
of
a
collective
impact
together
in
addressing
the
needs
that
we've
identified,
so
the
community
health
improvement
plan
similar
to
the
development
of
the
needs
assessment
was
a
community
engagement
process.
We
did
a
really
democratically
engaged
communication
process
to
make
sure
that
we
understood
what
we
were
hearing
from
residents.
S
And
again,
I
don't
think
that's
surprising,
for
any
of
us
in
this
space
that
racial
and
ethnic
health
equity
are
the
issues
to
focus
on
when
you
look
at
disparities
that
we
see
in
the
community,
but
we
really
drill
down
to
those
four
areas:
housing,
financial
security,
mobility,
behavioral
health
and
accessing
services-
to
what
it
means
to
actually
make
improvements
in
those
areas
with
lens
towards
racial
and
ethnic
health.
Equity.
And
again,
these
priorities
were
developed
in
a
robust
community
engagement
process.
S
So
the
last
thing
I'll
share
is
that
this
was
the
first
go-around
to
do
this
kind
of
joint
effort.
The
hospitals
were
a
minority
on
the
steering
committee.
It
was
non-hospital
representatives
that
were
the
majority
of
the
steering
committee
itself
that
laid
out
the
process,
but
obviously
it
was
a
joint
partnership
with
all
of
us
at
the
table
and
we
learned
a
lot
about
what
works
and
what
doesn't
work
to
do
this
kind
of
collaborative
effort.
S
I
think
it
was
really
effective
in
the
way
we
were
able
to
engage
residents
across
the
city
and
ended
up
with
a
real
focus
on
communities,
neighborhoods
and
populations
that
are
typically
underserved
and
often
unheard
and
right.
Now
the
findings
of
that
process
are
informing
institutional
decision
making
and
prioritization
of
community
benefits
at
independent
institutions,
as
well
as
at
the
collaborative
as
a
whole,
as
we
do
our
work
together.
S
So
I
wanted
to
offer
this
testimony
just
to
provide
some
context
about
this
particular
project,
where
the
collaborative
effort
with
a
range
of
institutions
and
stakeholders
came
together
and
are
working
together
to
address
community
needs
with
the
focus
on
equity.
So
I
appreciate
the
time
to
share
that
experience
that
we've
had
over
the
last
several
years.
B
Great
thank
you
so
much
carl
and
lastly,
rob
mccarron
for
macomb.
T
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
chair
bach
and
vice
chair,
flaherty
and
other
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
briefly
address
the
important
role
that
private,
non-profit
colleges
and
universities
play
in
making
boston
such
a
vibrant
place
to
live,
learn
and
work.
My
name
is
rob
mccarron.
I
serve
as
president
of
the
association
of
independent
colleges
and
universities
in
massachusetts,
which
represents
the
public
policy
interest
of
61,
private,
non-profit
colleges
and
universities
throughout
the
commonwealth.
T
T
These
programs
may
be
difficult
to
financially
quantify,
but
they
are
invaluable
to
those
who
benefit
from
them.
The
18
colleges
and
universities
in
boston
have
been
integral
contributors
to
the
city
since
their
inception,
and
while
this
is
true
year
over
year
and
as
tish
described,
it
has
never
been
more
true.
Over
the
past
year,
colleges
and
universities
were
at
the
forefront
of
the
response
to
covet
19
by
partnering,
with
the
state,
the
city
and
non-profit
organizations,
to
provide
critical
services
throughout
the
pandemic.
T
They
turned
over
dorms
to
house
patients
first
responders
and
the
homeless.
They
donated
ppe's
facilities
and
equipment
and
directed
other
healthcare
contributions.
They
work
quickly
to
reopen
labs
in
order
to
drive
the
ecosystems
of
innovation,
and
these
are
the
same
ecosystems
that
help
to
develop
the
foundational
research
that
led
to
the
vaccine.
T
In
addition,
these
same
institutions
invested
over
a
quarter
of
a
billion
dollars
in
a
covent
surveillance
testing
program
that
allowed
for
safe
return
to
campus,
maintain
critical
employment,
student,
financial
aid
and
local
spending.
In
fact,
since
last
august,
the
colleges
and
universities
in
massachusetts
have
conducted
10
million
covet
tests.
T
We
would
not
be
where
we
are
in
terms
of
recovery
as
a
city
in
a
state
without
the
efforts
of
in
collaboration
between
the
colleges
and
universities
and
our
non-profit
partners
in
healthcare.
Inca
members
are
committed
to
continuing
their
partnerships
throughout
boston
in
a
manner
that
best
leverages
their
unique
missions
and
strengths.
T
This
work
is
most
impactful
when
colleges
and
universities
and
the
community
partners
are
empowered
to
work
together
to
deliver
essential
mission-based
services
to
those
who
need
it
most.
We
welcome
mayor
janie's
announcement
today
to
convene
a
task
force
of
all
stakeholders
to
see
how
we
might
improve
a
voluntary
pilot
program
that
is
already
described
today
as
an
outstanding
success.
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much,
mr
mccarron,
and
to
all
three
of
you.
I
I
appreciate
carl
the
update
because
I've
been
mentally
meaning
to
check
in
I
didn't
know
the
acronym,
but
I
think
you
know.
Obviously
the
determination
of
needs
process
itself
was
one
step
and
then
the
idea
of
like
coordinating
it's
another
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
consistently
hear
from
community
members.
B
You
know
it
both
it's
both
that
folks
want
a
voice
and
determining
here
and
also
that
in
a
lot
of
ways
like
I
mean
you
heard
it
from
the
community
members
on
the
panel
before
us,
like
we
already
know
what
the
challenges
are
and
community
folks
have
articulated
them,
and
so
it's
sort
of
like
how
do
we
get
down
to
business
and
not
just
like
you
know,
constantly
go
and
circle.
B
So
I
think
if
there
are
ways
for
this
process
to
go
in
a
direction
that
also
like
you
know,
piggybacks
on
some
of
that
coordination
and
listening,
that's
happened
through
the
hospitals
process.
You
know
so
much
the
better
in
terms
of
getting
down
to
the
work
ahead.
So
I
appreciate
that
and
definitely
and
rob
I
mean
obviously
listed
some
of
the
specific
things
I
was
thinking
of
in
terms
of
the
covid
response.
B
But
it's
been,
it's
been
a
real
all
hands
on
deck
thing,
we're
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
how
to
keep
all
hands
on
deck,
but.
B
But
I
I
might
have
a
question
or
two,
but
I
just
want
to
check
first
of
my
colleague,
counselor
mejia
counselor
mahia.
Did
you
have
any
questions
or
comments
you
wanted
to
raise?
K
Of
course
would
not
be
zoom
unless
someone
was
muted.
No,
I
just
wanted
to
just
thank
everyone
for
their
testimonies.
K
I
am
curious,
though,
rob
and
patricia
you
know,
hearing
the
testimonies
from
some
of
the
advocates
that
spoke
before
you
just
kind
of
when,
when
you
hear
the
sense
of
well
at
least
the
the
I
wouldn't
say,
lack
of
regard,
but
it
just
there
seems
to
be
a
disconnect
between
what
we're
what
we're
hearing
from
advocates
and
then
what
we're
seeing
in
terms
of
the
outcomes
and
I'm
just
curious
what
kind
of
conversations
are
being
had
from
our
colleges
and
our
institutions
in
particular,
because
christina
had
mentioned,
that
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
right
now
who
have
been
displaced
from
the
city
of
boston,
but
yet
still
have
to
commute
to
work
here
in
the
city
of
boston
and
when
I
think
about
community
benefits,
you
know.
K
Has
been
done
to
those
who
have
been
displaced
as
a
result
of
the
development
that's
happening,
so
I'm
just
curious
if
what,
if
any
conversations
are
being
had
in
the
university
level
around?
How
do
we
reconcile
with
that.
T
T
It's
justice,
equity
inclusion
and
diversity
and
mental
health,
and
they
very
much
want
us
to
to
chair
box
sentiment
to
build
on
the
collaborative
environment
that
evolved
in
responding
to
kobut
and
doing
what
we
were
able
to
do
to
create
basically
a
national
model
of
testing
and
contact
tracing
and
and
and
helping
to
try
to
contain
the
virus,
but
take
that
collaborative
model
and
apply
it
to
to
the
to
the
issues
that
you
referenced.
And
that
is
what
we've
been
charged
with
doing.
T
K
Fronts
yeah,
thank
you
for
that
and
in
regards
to
some
of
the
small
businesses,
come
vania
talked
about
in
terms
of
economic
justice
when
we
think
about
racial
justice,
I
mean
a
lot
of
these
words
that
we
hear
these
days.
Equity
sometimes
loses
its
its
focus,
and
I'm
just
curious
in
terms
of
just
kind
of
if
you
could
just
break
it
down.
B
Lost,
can
you
hear
me
it's,
you
might
turn
off
your
video
yeah.
Why
don't
you
go
just
repeat
that
last
bit
again,
yeah.
K
K
But-
and
you
know,
what
are
we
going
quickly
around
economic
development?
That's
also
already
to
lean
into
internet
is
really
bad,
and
so
this
way
for
university.
B
B
Sorry,
counselor
mejia.
We
we
really
can't
hear
you
all
right.
We
may
get
her
back.
I
think
the
gist
of
it
was
that
we,
you
know
it's
good
to
talk
about
racial
equity,
but
where
are
we
actually
getting
and
employing
businesses?
And
thinking
about
oh
here's
here
she
is:
do
you
want
to
try
it
one
more
time.
K
Oh
yes,
no
one's
going
to
silence
me
that
we
need
to
talk
about
this
digital
equity.
I
mean
as
an
issue
too,
that
I
think
that
universities
need
to
be
able
to
lean
into
just
a
little
bit
more.
I
think
that's
something
that
I'd
like
to
advocate
for,
but
I
was
just
really
leaning
in
on
the
whole
racial
equity
piece.
K
All
of
these
things
are
interconnected,
and
I
know
I
I
forget
who
it
was,
but
we
were
talking
about
the
social
determinants
of
health
and
I
think
that
those
who
are
causing
the
harm
should
work
in
collaboration
with
those
who
are
experiencing
the
harm
so
that
we
can
find
some
common
ground,
and
I
think
that
the
universities
that
are
in
our
neighborhoods-
and
we
definitely
do
appreciate
them
here,
but
I
I
would
love
to
move
beyond
scholarships
and
employment
opportunity.
K
Those
things
are
great,
but
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
a
little
bit
more
aggressive
when
we're
looking
at
the
housing
stock
when
we're
looking
at
development
when
we're
looking
at
the
fact
that
so
many
people
can
no
longer
afford
to
live
here,
but
you
have
to
commute
and
work
in
the
city
of
boston
and
I
think
that
there
need
there
needs
to
be
some
conversation
about
how
we're
going
to
support
these
folks,
who
have
to
travel
two
hours
just
to
get
to
work,
because
they
can
no
longer
afford
to
live
here
in
boston.
K
R
I
I
agree
with
you:
councillor
mejia
and
the
the
china
ship
collaborative
includes
in
the
chip
implementation
plan,
a
real
commitment
to
tackle
a
whole
number
of
issues
in
around
the
housing
crisis
really
and
so
happy
to
share
that
with
your
office.
But
we
we
also
know
it's
it's
a
challenge
that
needs
government,
private
industry
business.
We
we
all
have
to
work
on
that
piece
together.
R
R
B
U
You
thank
you,
council
block
apologize
for
being
late.
I
had
a
previous
commitment,
so
I
apologize
to
the
people
that
testified
already.
U
So
I
won't
ask
questions
because
I'm
sure
they
were
already
answered
so
maybe
I'll
just
try
to
make
a
general
a
general
statement.
Instead,
what
what
I
would
like
to
see
is
the
impact
the
pilot
program
has
on
the
residents
on
the
residents
of
the
city.
As
we
see
a
a
booming
economy
pre-pandemic,
but
are
those
jobs?
Is
that
housing?
Are
we
giving
back
enough
to
residents
to
make
sure
that
boston
is
a
livable
city
for
them
that
there
are
training
options,
opportunities
for
residents
of
villa
victoria?
U
What
type
of
job
training
programs
do
we
have
for
kids
in
roxbury
and
dorchester
and
you've
youth
sports
programs
as
well?
So
one
one
thing
I
I
would
like
to
see
is
you
know
a
kind
of
a
detailed
list
of
exactly
what
colleges,
universities,
non-profits
hospitals,
what
they
actually
do
and
and
give,
but
also
some
follow-up
on
that
you
know.
U
Maybe
a
college
gives
a
hundred
scholarships
annually
to
kids
from
the
city,
but
of
those
kids
of
those
students
how
many
of
them
graduate
in
four
years,
how
many
of
them
leave
the
college,
and
after
after
one
year
or
two
years,
what
type
of
public
health
services
are
we
providing
to
residents
in
chinatown
that
have
the
highest
asthma
rate
of
any
neighborhood
in
massachusetts?
U
U
U
B
Great,
no
thank
you
so
much
councillor
flynn
and
I
think,
we'll
forward
that
question
to
casey
brock
wilson,
who
is
here
from
the
administration,
and
I
think
it
just
really
underscores
you
know
the
administration
announced
today.
They're
gonna
launch
a
sort
of
you
know,
10
years
on
new
pilot
task
force,
and
I
think
the
idea
of
you
know
what
data
is
informing
that
conversation
about
how
we
make
this
community
benefits
process.
Better
is
really
important
and
you
just
raised
some
of
the
same
things.
B
I
feel
about
about
outcomes
right
and
we're
being
really
outcome
oriented,
and
I
think-
and
I
think
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
some
of
the
con
some
of
what
what
carl
and
others
were
talking
about-
has
tried.
That's
the
direction
things
have
gone
in
general.
So
I'm
excited
about
that.
I
am
mindful
it's
five
o'clock
and
we
have
some
very
patient
members
of
the
public
who
have
been
on
since
the
start
of
this
hearing.
B
So
I
think
unless
another
counselor
has
a
question,
then
I'm
gonna
thank
our
third
panel
and
and
get
to
public
testimony.
Is
there
anybody
from.
U
Council
book,
could
I
just
ask:
could
you
answer
what
is
the
next
step
in
this
process
in
terms
of
certainly
public
testimony,
but
what?
What
is
the
follow-up
in?
What
is
our
next
step
in
terms
of
a
meeting
and
who
we're
meeting
with?
In
what
information
will
the
council
receive
that
they
may
have
requested
on
some
of
these
topics?.
B
Yeah
sure
so,
counselor
flynn,
what
the
administration
said
was
that
they
want
to
convene
a
new
pilot
task
force
with
stakeholders
from
all
groups,
including
you
know,
the
pilot
action
group,
community,
the
institutions,
universities,
hospitals,
cultural
institutions,
the
administration
itself,
the
council
and
but
they
they
didn't
yet
have
sort
of
exactly
who's
on
that
body,
and
some
of
the
questions
that
were
raised
in
the
prior
part
of
this
conversation
were
just
about.
You
know
exactly
what
the
timeline
and
and
metrics
and
stuff
of
that
group
will
be.
B
So
you
know,
I
think-
and
I
know
that
the
pallet
action
group,
I
think,
is
going
to
forward
some
suggestions
to
the
administration
as
well
on
that
front.
So
I
think
where
we're
at
in
terms
of
next
steps
is,
is
kind
of
them
taking
a
bunch
of
the
feedback
back
today
and
the
counselor
questions.
Counselor
edward's
asked
much
questions
you
know
and
and
kind
of
coming
back
to
us
with
what
the
what
the
proposed
membership
and
structure
of
that
task
force
is,
but
what
they
did
articulate
was.
B
The
goal
was
to
get
folks
around
the
table
to
talk
about
the
program
with
over
the
next
kind
of
six
to
eight
months,
with
the
goal
being
to
have
recommendations
in
place
before
the
fy
23
fiscal.
G
B
So
obviously
we're
entering
fy
22
now
and,
as
you
know,
because
you
were
part
of
the
counselors
who
signed
the
letter
last
summer,
the
administration
last
fall
agreed
to
do
a
a
revaluation
right
of
all
the
exempt
property
and
so
they're
in
the
middle
of
that
right
now.
B
So
the
thought
is
also
that
for
let
them
sort
of
finish
that
out
over
the
calendar
year
and
get
a
group
talking
and
so
yeah
so,
but
I
think,
certainly
on
the
committee
front,
one
of
the
things
that
we
can
do
is
follow
up
concretely
with
casey
about
the
question
you
were
asking
so
I'll
I'll
make
sure
we
do
that.
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
and
rob
did
you
want
to
say
a
word
before
I
go
to
public
schools.
T
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
with
us
and
yeah
to
everybody
for
being
with
us,
and
now
I
do
want
to
go
to
public
testimony,
so
I'll
just
be
taking
it
in
the
order.
I've
got
in
front.
B
And
just
so
you
know,
I
see
craig
paul
ruby,
justin
lydia
sharon
all
here
as
well,
so
I
will
be
coming
to
everybody
in
order,
but
we'll
start
with
rich
so
rich.
If
you
just
identify
yourself
and
and
just
make
a
couple
minutes
of
comments,
rich.
V
Okay,
excellent,
thank
you.
I
I
will
try
and
submit
more
formal
written
testimony
in
the
next
few
days.
I
do
want
to
thank
councillor.
Bacharach
he's
seen
all
the
other
counselors
and
the
mayor
for
all
of
the
work.
That's
currently
been
done
to
improve
the
process
that
we're
all
talking
about
the
pilot
program.
We
really
do
appreciate
the
the
new
task
force
that
will
be
getting
formed.
V
I
I
would
like
to,
however,
say
that
we
do
need
to
continue
to
remind
ourselves
of
the
full
history
of
how
we
got
here
and
the
good
and
the
bad
and
one
I
think
most
of
you
remember
that
the
way
the
pilot
system
works,
it's
based
on
an
assessed
value
and
universities
and
hospitals
are
allowed
to,
or
have
agreed
to
pay
up
to
25
of
the
assessed
value,
and
then
they
can
offset
that
with
community
benefits.
V
It
should
be
noted
for
the
discussion,
however,
that
the
assessment,
which
is
going
on
right
now
in
2011
sorry
2021,
is
five
years
overdue,
and
what
that
means
is
that
the
universities
and
the
hospitals
have
been
either
paying
more
or
less
of
what
has
been
asked
of
them
on
a
value
that
is
significantly
underrepresenting
their
real
estate.
V
V
Faced
with
the
fact
that
everything
that
we're
discussing
about
how
well
or
how
poorly
the
institutions
have
behaved
is
based
on
insignificant
or
faulty
figures,
the
real
estate
value
is
completely
undervalued
and,
in
fact,
has
missed
a
huge
building
bomb
on
all
of
the
institutions
in
the
city.
So
not
only
are
we
assessing
on
value
that
is
10
years
out
of
date,
but
we've
missed
an
enormous
amount
of
real
estate
value.
That's
been
built
in
the
last
five
years
in
particular.
V
Why
does
that
affect
us
all?
Well,
not
only
are
then.
We
then
not
getting
a
correct
valuation,
whatever
is
being
offset
in
community
benefits
is
also
being
under
undercounted.
In
a
sense,
the
benefits
are
being
based
on
an
outdated
tax
assessment.
V
So
whether
or
not
we
argue
that
they
are
or
aren't
fulfilling
their
obligation,
we
have
to
admit
that
the
obligation
is
not
the
correct
obligation
and
we're
only
now
in
2021,
getting
to
the
root
of
correcting
that
and
regarding
community
benefits
and
the
the
need
for
a
a
robust
set
of
guidelines
and
an
evaluation
process.
V
I
would
just
suggest
that
one
of
the
things
that
needs
to
be
addressed,
along
with
the
magnificent
impacts
that
many
of
our
institutions
have
on
the
city.
There
are
also
some
deleterious
ones.
V
We
have
almost
according
to
the
university
accountability
report
of
2018-2019
15
000
students
living
in
mission
hill
and
the
fenway
alone.
V
This
is
in
part
due
to
the
fact
that
universities
don't
build
enough
dorms
and
don't
take
into
account
the
impact
that
they
have
on
communities
and,
what's
that
impact
well
effectively,
they've
been
responsible
for
displacing
thousands
of
families
and
residents
over
the
last
two
decades,
while
the
change
in
educational
models
have
gone
on
from
commuting
to
national
and
international
student
body.
V
While
we
try
to
improve
and
go
forward-
and
I
just
might
remind
everybody
that
every
institution
that
doesn't
pay
taxes
on
their
real
estate
value
they're
in
a
very
unique
position,
because
all
the
affordable
housing
organizations
in
the
state
pay
real
estate,
taxes
on
their
affordable
housing,
and
so
the
obligation
that
we
have
could
be
looked
at
as
a
model
for
what
the
institution
should
be
thinking
about.
V
So
I'll
I'll
end
it
that,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
the
time
and
wish
all
the
rest
of
the
residents
a
good
time
to
to
discuss
their
issues.
Thank
you.
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
rich
next
up
is
pam
coker
and
from
the
boston
municipal
research
bureau
and
then
it'll
be
lydia
lowe,
the
director
of
the
chinatown
land,
trust
and
then
craig
coogan,
pam.
W
Good
afternoon
and
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
about
this
very
important
program
for
both
the
city
financially
and
for
the
community.
I
want
to
share
some
of
the
points
that
we
think
should
be
considered
as
part
of
any
conversation
about
this
program,
particularly
when
discussing
making
any
changes
to
the
pilot
program.
W
The
pilot
program
in
boston
originated
as
a
partnership
with
the
city
and
are
non-off
non-profit
institutions,
and
that
has
been
maintained
over
many
years.
This
partnership
has
been
critical
to
boston's
economy,
to
addressing
many
acute
social
and
educational
issues
in
the
city,
as
well
as
to
the
pilot
program
into
boston's
re-emergence,
as
a
in
a
post-covet
environment.
W
We
also
recommend
an
annual
program
evaluation.
The
program
should
be
evaluated
annually
to
ensure
program
effectiveness
and
make
adjustments
as
needed,
avoiding
the
need
for
dramatic
overhauls
every
few
years.
Systematic
annual
review
process
would
improve.
Transparency
into
the
pilot
community
benefit
effectiveness
in
how
those
benefits
are
financially
evaluated.
W
Now,
in
fiscal
year,
2020
the
city
received
about
34
million
dollars
in
cash
contributions,
an
increase
over
the
previous
year's
cash
contributions.
Despite
concerns
about
financial
sustainability
caused
by
the
pandemic,
together,
37
institutions
went
above
and
beyond
these
cash
contributions
and
reported
153
million
dollars
in
cash
and
in
kind
community
benefit
programs
to
city
residents
all
across
the
neighborhood
again,
even
at
a
time
of
concern
about
pandemic
impact
on
all
organizations
and
community
members
in
the
city.
W
One
thing
to
note,
based
on
conversations
that
we've
had
earlier
today
during
this
hearing,
is
to
just
note
that
it
is
the
city
that
decides
each
year,
which
community
benefit
programs
are
to
be
counted
as
credits
for
an
institution's
pilot
program.
That's
not
designated
by
the
contributing
institutions
themselves
that
is
set
by
the
city.
W
W
What
that
would
mean
is
that
the
commonwealth,
although
it
receives
even
greater
benefit
from
our
tax,
exempt
medical
and
educational
institutions,
because,
unlike
boston,
the
state,
is
the
beneficiary
of
the
income
tax
paid
by
all
employees
of
these
institutions
might
consider,
perhaps
that
some
sort
of
revenue
sharing
opportunity
would
stipulate
that
a
percentage
of
the
five
percent
state
income
tax
generated
by
the
employees
of
these
institutions
would
be
allocated
to
the
city
of
boston
where
the
employees
and
their
institutions
are
concentrated.
W
So
just
one
idea
to
throw
out
it's
something.
The
research
bureau
has
spoken
about
before
and
it'd
be
another
opportunity
related
related
to
this
program
that
could
provide
some
opportunity
for
the
city,
some
revenue
opportunity,
in
particular
for
the
city.
W
We
also
want
to
reference
that
tax
exempt
institutions
already
financially
contribute
to
the
city.
Apart
from
the
program
in
a
number
of
ways,
including
paying
property
taxes
when
they
acquire
new
properties
that
were
previously
taxable,
even
if
the
building's
new
use
is
a
tax-exempt
one,
in
fact,
past
city
assessing
data
has
shown
that,
in
addition,
in
addition
to
pilot
payments,
tax
exempt
institutions
pay
many
millions
of
dollars
a
year
in
property
taxes
for
both
commercial
and
for
also
officially
exempt
property
uses
each
year.
W
You
want
to
reference
as
well.
The
pilot
institutions
also
pay
linkage
fees
to
the
city
when
developing
property
free
use
is
falling
under
the
vpda's
definition
of
direct
impact
uses
and
when
a
pilot
institution
builds
a
new
development
in
conjunction
with
a
private
developer
on
institution
on
land.
The
funding
structure
requires
the
developer
to
pay
full
annual
property
taxes
to
the
city,
cutting
down
on
the
city's
total
tax-exempt
land
area,
non-profits
also
pay
permit
fees
for
construction
and
other
services,
just
like
private
sector
organizations
do
in
the
city.
W
So
just
a
little
reminder
of
the
larger
look
at
what
our
these
anchor
institutions
are
doing
within
and
with
the
city.
So
as
well
as
that,
I
just
want
to
emphasize
one
or
two
more
things
predominantly.
W
I
just
want
to
re-emphasize
that
the
pilot
program
has
been
successful
and
further
improved
over
the
years
because
of
these
cooperative
partnerships
and
again
essential
is
the
seat
at
the
table,
and
the
work
should
be
continued
by
building
upon
the
work
done
to
date
with
this
program,
particularly
since
2012,
and
can
continue
to
thrive.
If
there
is
recognition.
W
While
faculty
and
department
leaders,
universities
are
actively
involved
in
training,
middle
and
high
school
teachers
and
making
stem
education
more
accessible
to
underserved
students,
hospitals
also
work
extensively
with
each
other
and
community
groups
and
follow
through
under
guidelines
provided
by
the
affordable
care
act.
So
federal
level,
massachusetts,
department
of
public
health
and
the
attorney
general's
guidelines
for
community
engagement
and
federal
and
state
regulations
also
require
hospitals
to
abide
by
certain
standards
when
implementing
and
reporting
on
community
benefit
programs,
and
that
includes
attention
to
equity
issues
and
concerns.
W
So
thank
you
for
your
time
today
I'll
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
We
will
be
submitting
a
written
testimony
that
provides
a
lot
more
detail
on
these
recommendations
and
the
emphasis
that
I
have
made
today
on
certain
aspects
of
our
testimony.
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
that.
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
pam,
yes,
and
please
do
send
that
we
are
going
to
be
sharing
all
the
written
testimony
related
to
this
hearing,
also
with
the
administration
as
they
think
about
the
the
task
force.
So
we
would
be
very
grateful
for
that.
Next
up
is
lydia
lowe.
The
director
of
the
chinatown
land
trust,
then
it'll
be
craig
coogan
and
then
it
will
be
ruby.
Reyes,
lydia.
X
Thank
you
I
and
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
testify.
I
want
to
support
and
echo
some
of
the
points
made
by
the
pilot
action
group
in
the
panel
earlier,
but
from
the
particular
point
of
view
of
chinatown.
X
Today,
the
covid
pandemic
has
left
thousands
of
residents
unemployed
in
overcrowded
or
unstable
housing
and
with
dozens
of
small
businesses,
shuttered
chinatown's
proximity
to
tufts
medical
center,
tufts,
university
emerson,
college,
suffolk,
university
and
new
england,
school
of
law
has
made
it
an
attractive
neighborhood
for
graduate
students.
X
Tufts
in
particular,
has
enjoyed
one
of
the
largest
increases
in
its
student
population
in
recent
years
and,
in
contrast
to
undergrad
students
about
66
of
grad,
students
are
living
independently
off
campus,
so
in
the
past
decade,
or
more,
we've
seen
more
and
more
privately
owned.
Multi-Unit
buildings
in
chinatown,
which
once
housed
working
class
families,
become
essentially
privately
run.
Student
dorms
in
fiscal
2020,
tufts
university,
paid
a
450,
000
cash
contribution
and
was
credited
with
six
hundred
and
thirteen
thousand
seven
hundred
nineteen
dollars
in
community
benefits.
X
Some
of
those
community
benefits
included,
free
use
of
facilities
need
based
financial
aid
for
students,
bps
students,
contributions
to
community
organizations
donated
supplies
and
low-cost
dental
care
and
tufts
has
also
made
progress
in
linking
student
volunteers
and
researchers
with
particular
community
needs.
X
Imagine
what
would
be
possible
if
the
city,
neighborhood
organizations
and
all
of
the
institutions
were
planning
together
how
to
address
upstream
social
determinants
of
health,
such
as
the
housing
and
displacement
problem
or
today's
unemployment
crisis.
In
this
next
phase,
anchor
institutions
could
be
a
major
driver
for
an
equitable
recovery.
X
Can
some
of
our
hundreds
of
laid
off
hotel
cleaners
and
laundry
workers
be
put
to
work
at
the
institutions?
Can
struggling
restaurants
in
chinatown
become
the
new
institutional
food
vendors?
X
How
can
community
organizations
and
the
institutions
plan
together
to
increase,
affordable
housing
and
keep
people
in
their
homes?
I
want
to
thank
mayor,
jamie
and
the
administration
for
initiating
the
new
pilot
task
force,
as
had
been
advocated
by
the
pilot
action
group,
and
I
look
forward
to
learning
more
about
how
community
members
can
participate.
Thank
you.
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
lydia
next
up
is
craig
coogan,
the
executive
director
of
the
boston,
gay
men's
chorus
and
then
ruby
reyes.
As
I
said,
and
then
dr
paul
hattis,
craig.
A
A
The
meninio
administration
instituted
the
current
policy
that
resulted
in
a
handful
of
boston's
largest
arts
and
cultural
nonprofits
being
expected
to
make
pilot
payments
or
to
be
called
out
publicly
by
the
city
for
not
doing
so.
I'm
not
sure
how
voluntary
the
program
is
with
city
efforts
to
increase
oversight
and
collect
more
funds.
B
Thank
you,
mr
coogan.
Next
up
is
ruby
race,
the
executive
director
of
the
boston,
educational
justice
alliance,
beija,
then
it'll
be
dr
paul
hattis
and
then
justin
brown,
ruby.
Q
Q
I
represent
one
of
two
boston's:
there
is
a
boston
of
residents
who
pay
their
taxes,
work
two
and
three
jobs
to
afford
to
live
here
and
have
children
who
attend
the
boston
public
schools.
They
want
to
find
a
place
where
their
child
can
be
safe,
nurtured
and
develop.
A
love
of
learning,
that's
one
boston.
The
other
boston
is
the
plush
private
colleges
and
universities,
where
pres
presidents
have
salaries
of
over
one
million
dollars
a
year
classrooms
of
smart
boards
and
small
patches
of
grass
that
are
manicured
regularly.
Q
Q
For
some,
the
school
budgeting
process
means
closing
their
library
for
others.
It
means
offering
science
through
a
cart,
not
a
science
teacher
or
in
a
science
class.
These
are
not
budgeting
options
or
choices
that
anyone
should
have
to
make
the
bill
bps
stakeholders,
group
of
which
beija
is
a
part
of
released
a
survey
in
april
2021
to
assess
basic
school
infrastructure
such
as
facilities,
programs
and
staff.
The
survey
found
that,
across
the
board,
most
bps
schools
were
missing
basic
things.
Q
The
survey
has
shown
that
more
than
a
third
of
students
don't
have
a
functioning
library,
approximately
55
percent
of
students
in
k-8
and
middle
schools,
don't
have
a
science
lab
and
about
eight
percent
of
students
in
middle
and
k-8
schools,
don't
have
an
art
teacher
through
the
pandemic,
bps
schools
closed
and
our
highest
need.
Students
were
left
with
no
in-person
services,
students
with
disabilities
and
english
learners
were
hit
the
hardest.
Q
The
benef,
the
community
benefits
part
of
the
pilot
program,
could
have
been
instrumental
in
providing
online
learning
tools,
professional
development
and
support
for
better
online
access
to
families
and
school
communities.
Bps
school
psychologists
had
caseloads
of
over
1500
students
before
the
pandemic.
Community
benefits
could
have
been
instrumental.
However.
Q
Community
benefits
are
not
determined
by
the
community
or
the
need,
but
by
the
institution,
the
majority
of
boston
residents
and
children
will
not
attend
these
colleges
and
universities
in
large
part
because
they
can't
afford
them
the
same
colleges
and
universities
that
get
to
tell
boston
residents
and
bps
school
communities.
What
they
are
willing
to
do
and
not
do
in
community
benefits,
also
get
to
tell
residents
that
they
should
be
grateful
for
what
they
have
been
given.
Q
Baja
asks
that
you
form
this
task
force
that
when
you
form
this
task
force,
you
ensure
that
bps
parents
are
included
our
parents,
families
and
residents
are
directly
impacted
by
these
institutions
and
should
determine
their
school
needs.
We
also
ask
for
community
transparency.
We
have
enough
murky
budgeting
happening
at
the
city
and
school
level.
We
don't
need
this
to
be
another
non-transparent
institution.
Q
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
ruby.
Next
up
is
dr
paul
hattis,
a
retired
faculty
member
of
the
tufts
medical
school
and
then
it'll
be
justin
brown
sharon,
hinton
domingos
derosa,
dr
hattis.
Y
Thank
you,
counselor
bach.
I
am
paul
harris,
I'm
a
public
health
physician
and
recently
retired
from
tufts
medical
school
after
a
number
of
years.
I'm
also
formerly
a
commissioner
on
the
state's
health
policy
commission
for
over
30
years,
I've
been
involved
in
the
issue
of
hospital
community
benefits,
including
I
was
part
of
a
pioneering
effort
at
new
york
university
back
in
1990.
Y
Y
Even
in
massachusetts,
since
the
early
to
mid
90s,
our
attorney
general's
office
helped
make
us
really
a
state
leader
in
trying
to
reset
expectations
and
move
the
health
care
field
to
a
more
public
health
focus.
Our
hospitals
at
times
have
really
been
slow
to
respond
in
some
important
ways.
For
example,
consistently
absent
their
efforts
has
been
more
upstream
investments
in
areas
that
we
know
are
important
for
good
health,
like
in
stable
housing
for
lower
income
people,
adequate
nutrition,
safer
street
environment,
to
name
a
few
important
things,
not
that
there
has
been
no
investment
there.
Y
They've
also
tended
to
maintain
a
go
to
loan
strategy
and
hesitant
to
work
together
at
a
local
or
regional
level.
Now
there
have
been
some
important
breakthroughs
and
improvements
in
recent
years,
and
we
heard
carl
talk
about,
for
example,
in
boston,
the
common
needs
assessment
to
help
characterize
issues
and
opportunities
for
community
health
improvement
with
community
engagement
in
that
process.
Y
But
really,
if
you
also
listen
carefully,
what
to
what
carl
said,
there's
been
not
that
much
follow-through
in
working
together
on
those
identified
problems
to
date
and
the
resource
commitment
to
those
efforts,
especially
the
upstream
kinds
of
ones.
My
colleague
in
extern.
We
study
this
at
a
state
level
in
2016
and
then
recently,
with
more
detailed
data
out
of
the
ag's
office.
Y
My
hope
would
be
that
that
spirit
of
collaboration,
matched
by
firmer
financial
commitments
year
in
and
year
out,
could
really
breathe.
Some
life
into
the
community
benefit
notions
that
we
in
some
ways
identify
30
years
ago.
Let
me
finish
by
saying
I
am
very
pleased
to
hear
about
the
announcement
of
the
task
force
today,
and
I
know
you
know.
Councilor
edwards
in
majita
talked
about
some
notions
of
accountability.
Y
Y
Don't
underestimate
the
peer
accountability
that
could
happen
across
sectors
and
across
actors
and
of
people
coming
together,
and
some
of
them,
you
know
are,
are
are
making
good
both
on
their
financial
and
their
in-kind
commitments
on
community
benefits,
perhaps
in
a
planned
way,
maybe
put
pressure
on
others,
and
so
with
that.
I
I
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
today.
Z
Hi,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
My
name
is
justin
brown
and
I
live
in
brighton
at
116
englewood
avenue.
I've
lived
in
brighton
for
about
the
last
20
years,
I'm
an
elementary
school
teacher
and
a
volunteer
co-leader
of
the
awesome
brighton
note
of
350
mass,
which
is
a
statewide
climate
justice
organization.
Z
As
a
long-time
resident
of
brighton,
I've
seen
neighbors
and
community
groups
struggle
with
universities
as
they've
expanded
their
institutional
footprints
and
reach
into
the
neighborhood.
These
institutions
benefit
from
many
city
services
paid
for
with
taxpayer
dollars,
yet
continually
fail
to
fail
to
pay
their
share
and
pilot
community
members.
When
told
are
dismayed
when
they
hear
that
elite
institutions
like
boston
college,
harvard
university
and
boston
university
are
not
meeting
their
obligations.
Z
Particularly
shocking
is
bc's
abysmal
record,
with
pilot
23
of
the
requested
amount
and
nothing
in
reported
community
benefits
and
the
fact
that
harvard
with
one
of
the
biggest
endowments
in
the
world,
one
that
grew
by
billions
during
the
pandemic
has
only
paid
79
of
the
pilot
request.
These
institutions
should
pay
their
fair
share
and
be
held
accountable,
relatedly
both
bc
and
harvard
are
still
institutionally
invested
in
the
fossil
fuel
industry.
Z
While
scientists
note
record-setting
amounts
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
that
are
stealing
away,
the
livable
futures
of
their
students
harvard
and
bc
continue
to
invest
in
the
companies
that
extract,
distribute
and
burn
fossil
fuels.
These
institutions
should
be
investing
in
the
livability
of
their
communities,
not
the
continued
destruction
of
the
planet.
Z
Lastly,
a
pilot
program
should
be
should
have
a
shared
vision
based
on
collective
community-based
input,
powerful
institutions,
developers
and
city
planners
get
diminished
community
engagement
when
there
is
no
master
plan
or
shared
vision
in
place.
That
in
turn
makes
it
more
difficult
to
disrupt
systems
that
favor
powerful
institutions
over
the
people
who
live
next
to
them.
For
example,
I've
seen
this
firsthand
in
the
ways
that
city
planners
have
failed
to
require
large
projects
in
austin,
brighton,
many
of
which
are
mere
blocks
from
each
other
to
combine
mitigation
and
community
community
benefits.
Z
Additionally,
harvard
university
right
now
is
reluctant
to
reveal
its
vision
for
large
swaths
of
land
in
austin,
forcing
neighbors
to
engage
with
their
developers
on
a
partial
by
parcel
basis.
This
is
a
structure
that
puts
profits
over
people.
The
collective
vision
created
by
the
pilot
task
force
should
center
community
members
and
their
hopes
for
a
healthy
and
resilient
city
and
be
supported
by
the
institutions
who
pay
it.
B
Thank
you
so
much
justin
next
up's
sharon,
hi.
AA
Hi
we
can
hear
you,
my
name.
Is
sharon
henson,
I'm
actually,
the
president
of
black
teachers
matter
and
educator
parents,
community
activists,
all
this
other
stuff.
I've
sat
here
and
listened.
I've
seen
both
sides
of
this
pilot
thing
because
I
actually
worked
in
colleges
and,
as
most
of
you
guys
know,
there
is
the
strongest
or
the
the
largest
concentration
per
square
mile
of
colleges
and
universities
in
boston
than
any
place
else
in
the
world.
AA
So
when
you're
talking
about
funding,
boston,
public
schools
based
on
taxes
and
the
you
know,
there's
so
many
people
that
are
not
homeowners.
That's
a
problem!
That's
another
conversation.
So
I
had
a
couple
of
questions
earlier.
There
were
comments
made
about
the
same
task.
Force
10
years
ago
is,
are
going
to
be
invited
back.
So
my
question
is:
how
do
you
get
different
results
if
you
have
the
same
people
at
the
table?
Although
boston
supposedly,
is
the
gold
standard
for
dealing
with
the
pilot
tax
revenue
situation?
AA
That's
the
first
thing:
dana
farber
and
boston
symphony
orchestra
actually
fulfilled
their
pilot
responsibilities.
They
were
evenly
split
between
community
benefits
and
fees,
but
they're
they're
the
standard
everybody
else
doesn't
do
that.
So
my
questions
is
question.
Is:
is
the
task
force
going
to
be
large
in
because
no
offense,
it
was
sort
of
a
monochromatic
kind
of
presentation
with
the
people
that
are
on
the
task
force
now
and
as
a
lot
of
other
people
said,
they
want
to
see
more
diversity.
AA
So
are
we
going
to
pick
the
usual
suspects
when
we
go
for
diversity
that
are
already
connected,
or
how
are
we
doing
that
moving
forward?
So
I
applaud
the
task
force
and
this
and
city
councillors
and
the
acting
mayor
moving
forward
this,
but
it's
way
overdue
when
you
look
at
who
paid
and
who
didn't
pay
so
the
other
question,
even
though
it's
a
voluntary
program,
are
we
still
going
to
go,
get
those
taxes,
because
if
we
were
the
irs
which
is
like
the
kgb,
they
would
get
it
and
they
would
get
it
no
matter.
AA
What
so,
are
we
going
after
that?
The
other
question
is,
I
definitely
supported
the
pilot
fees
being
mandatory,
not
voluntary,
but
I'm
not
sure
how
you're
going
to
enforce
that,
especially
with
the
budget
constraints
that
you're
trying
to
do
in
2022
and
23,
and
we
had
year
in
pandemics,
and
some
of
these
I
mean
yeah,
the
hospitals
and
everything
made
a
lot
of
money,
but
a
lot
of
the
schools
didn't
and
a
lot
of
schools
suffered
because
the
students
weren't
there.
So
how
are
we
going
to
balance?
That
also
excuse
me.
AA
There
is
a
ten
years
ago.
According
to
the
plan,
there
was
a
mandate
that
the
benefits
should
go
to
boston
residents.
So
how
do
you
enforce
that?
And
then
I'm
concerned
that
when
the
requirements
for
the
pilot
fees
are
enforced,
that
doesn't
get
passed
on
to
the
students
and
the
homeowners?
I
mean
because
that
if
you
go
into
a
store
and
they
raise
the
prices,
they
raise
the
prices
on
you,
the
cost
of
doing
business
and
it
gets
passed
down
to
consumers.
AA
So
that's
my
concern
and
what
about
the
institutions
that
are
have
that
are
dual
minis?
Excuse
me,
municipalities,
like
harvard
harvard's
in
boston,
but
it's
also
in
cambridge.
So
how
do
we
deal
with
those
institutions
that
are
in
multiple
locations?
So
I
I
support
what
you
guys
are
doing,
but
it's
been
happening
for
a
long
period
of
time.
What
some
people
consider
to
be
transparency,
not
so
much
what
some
people
consider
to
be.
AA
You
know
and
and
counseling
he
always
says
you
know
all
means
all
and
bring
everybody
to
the
table
and
if
you're
not
at
the
table
you're
on
the
menu.
That's
not
her
saying,
but
I
go
for
that.
So
I
I'm
one
of
those
people,
that's
civically
engaged
and
I
tend
to
be
showing
up
in
a
lot
of
different
places,
but
I
don't
necessarily
tend
to
be
invited
to
those
spaces
because
I
can
be
not
so
friendly.
AA
Sometimes
you
know
I
love
everybody,
but
I'm
not
going
for
the
bs
and
it's
been
going
on
way
too
long,
and
I
see
so
the
last
point
I'll
make
is
that
when
the
pilot
fees
are
collected,
they
go
into
the
general
fund.
So
are
we
going
to
have
transparency
in
terms
of
where
that
money
goes
and
what
happens
to
it?
AA
So
if
we're
not
sticking
to
the
boston
residency
and
making
sure
that
the
people
that
are
in
these
institutions
are
actually
boston
residents
and
women
of
color
people
of
color
in
women,
then
where's
the
spending
really
going.
I
think
it's
going
back
out.
I
would
like
to
see
the
whole
process
transparent.
AA
I
would
like
to
see
more
black
indigenous
people
of
color
in
the
decision
making,
not
just
after
fact
and
looking
at
the-
and
I
also
support
with
counselor
edwards
and
many
other
people
and
counselor,
and
excuse
me
what
he
has
said
in
terms
of
the
metrics.
AA
Let's
find
out
the
money,
the
numbers
like
who's
really
going
to
be
accountable
and
I
don't
think
it
should
be
another.
10
years
before
we
actually
hold
people
accountable.
It
should
be
on
a
regular
basis
and
there
should
be
penalties
that
involve
people
possibly
losing
their
nonprofit
status.
Possibly
you
know
being
charged
as
a
corporation.
AA
If
you
look
into
the
well
some
of
these
hallways
of
some
of
these
institutions
you'll
see
blah
blah
blah
corporation,
but
they
still
benefit
when
they
get
a
100
year
lease
or
a
99-year
lease
on
these
lands
and
taken
away
from
the
community.
AA
B
Great
thank
you
so
much
sharon
for
those
remarks
and
finally,
dominguez
derosa.
AB
Hi
guys
thanks
everybody.
I
appreciate
you
guys
holding
holding
this
hearing
on
this
issue,
that
we
as
bostonians,
have
faced
for
many
many
many
many
years
decades.
AB
My
input
for
tonight
is
the
fact
that
I
want
to
echo
what
a
lot
of
the
counselors
have
already
said,
and
some
of
the
community
members
me
as
a
concerned
resident.
I
would
like
to
be
a
part
of
the
solution
and
part
of
the
conversation
to
make
sure
that
further
conversations
are
had.
We've
always
been
kept
out
of
these
dialogues.
AB
Where
you
know,
as
a
bps
student,
we
had
no
clue
what
the
pilot
program
was.
My
parents
had
no
clue
of
that.
I
didn't
even
know
there
was
a
community
benefit
portion
of
that
and,
as
I
got
older
and
and
got
a
little
more
wiser,
I
started
to
notice
that
you
know
a
lot
of
these
scholarships
that
they
do
give
to
boston
students.
AB
Not
all
of
us
had
access
to
it
and
that's
something
that
you
know
we
need
to
change
as
a
city
as
a
whole.
Not
only
that,
but
the
fact
that
you
know,
as
everyone
has
said
in
this
hearing,
you
know
when
you
hear
about
a
an
institute
like
harvard
who
brings
in
you
know
billions
of
dollars
in
endowment
and
then
turn
around
charges,
boston,
students,
a
fee
to
attend
a
sports
event
or
even
be
a
part
of
some
of
the
programs
that
they
offered.
AB
You
know
it's
troubling,
it's
troubling
to
not
just
me
but
to
others.
This
is
why
we
we
sat
on
this
call
since
three
o'clock
to
make
sure
that
we
get
our
two
minutes
of
fame.
The
city
council
is
in
a
position
now
to
actually
move
this
conversation
beyond
one
step.
We
can
move
this
in
in
more
than
just
the
right
direction.
We
can
show
other
cities
across
the
united
states
how
we
can
set
tones
on
difficult
conversations.
Yes,
we
understand.
AB
A
lot
of
these
universities
are
exempt
from
taxes,
but
at
the
same
time,
the
property
that
they're
trying
to
buy
from
the
city
belongs
to
the
city
and
we,
as
a
city
can't
continue
to
allow
them,
especially
in
austin
and
brighton,
where
they've
taken
up
more
than
enough
of
the
areas
ruggles
housing
development
northeastern,
has
pushed
into
that
area.
Northeastern
has
taken
lower
roxbury
and
turned
it
into
the
south
end
where
we
know
that
is
lower
roxbury
and
that
shouldn't
have
happened.
AB
We
can't
continue
to
allow
these
institutes
to
to
be
manhandling
the
community,
the
residents
same
with
admission
hill.
You
know
nine
out
of
10
people
that
you
speak
to
in
mission
hill
they're
students
same
as
the
fenway
I
keep
hearing
about.
You
know
austin
bryant
and
mission
hill,
but
the
fenway
is
saturated
with
different
schools.
AB
AB
I've
been
to
countless
bc
games
and
you
know,
boston,
fire,
boston,
emts,
account
incident
after
incident,
countless
incidents
where
they're
there
providing
needed
services-
and
you
know
that's
a
great
thing-
that
we
do
as
a
city
but
at
the
same
time
bc
has
to
do
more
than
just
say:
hey,
you
can
come
to
a
game.
You
know
for
10
bucks
I
like
to
see
more
of
our
be
boston.
Public
school
students
actually
be
a
part
of
their
student
body
and
not
only
student
body
but
their
their
sports
teams.
AB
I
haven't
seen
one
black
or
brown
student
from
boston
receive
a
scholarship
for
any
athleticism
across
any
of
these
institutes.
So
I'll
end
that
that-
and
I
thank
you
guys
and
I
look
forward
to
the
next
conversation-
and
hopefully
it's
soon-
you
know
six
months
goes
by
fast.
Hopefully
we
can,
you
know,
speak
on
this
within
the
next.
You
know
two.
B
Weeks
great,
thank
you
so
much
domingos
for
that
and
to
everybody
who
testified
and
raised
great
questions
and
points
and
and
knowledge
and
experience
and
before
we
close
out.
I
just
want
to
give
my
colleague,
counselor
mejia
a
chance
to
say
any
final
words.
K
I
always
feel
like
it's
true
and
we
have
to
figure
out
how
we
lead
and
how
we
create
space
for
our
public
testimony
to
maybe
sprinkle
them
throughout
the
the
hearing,
so
that
the
administration,
I'm
sure
they
go
back
and
listen,
but
but
I
do
think
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
really
lean
into
this
conversation
and
I'm
just
grateful
to
all
those
who
who
showed
up,
but
I
the
more
I
engage
in
these
kind
of
in
these
type
of
conversations,
the
more
I
realize
that
walking
out
of
these
spaces
with
a
real,
clear
sense
of
where
do
we
go
from
here?
K
I
heard
you
know
the
need
for
regular
accountability,
and
I
don't
I
don't
think
six
months.
I
think,
maybe
every
three
months
we
need
to
be
bringing
people
in
and
and
doing
very
similar
to
the
way
we
do
the
boston
jobs
residency
right
like.
K
I
think
that
that
level
of
intense
accountability
is
what
the
pilot
program-
and
you
know
this
initiative-
needs
counselor
bach,
and
so
I
I
think
the
task
force
needs
to
set
itself
up
with
a
with
a
framework
that
is
going
to
really
be
accountable
and
that
the
metrics
are
done
in
partnership
with
all
of
the
advocates
that
that
were
here
and
that
you
know,
as
sharon
said
about
being
at
the
you
know,
when
I
don't
even
I
don't
even
think
that
it
should
just
be
even
be
about
being
at
the
table
these
days.
K
We
need
to
start
setting
the
menu
and
being
really
clear
about
what
ingredients
we're
going
to
cook
with,
because
sometimes
people
have
allergic
reactions
to
things
that
don't
fit
their
palate.
So
I
think
that
even
looking
at
the
ingredients
that
we're
using
to
to
cook
is
that's
the
level
of
detail
that
these
times
require.
So
so
thank
you
for
for
hosting
this
and
and
and
god
it's
almost
it's
after
five,
almost
six.
So
thank
you
and
thank
you
all
who
showed
up.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
B
Absolutely
no
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councillor
mejia
and
yes,
thanks
to
everybody,
who's
stayed
on
all
this
time
and
I
will
just
also
give
the
administration
who
has
been
on
and
taking
notes
on
all
this
last
word
as
well
before
we
gavel
out
so
casey
brock.
Wilson
did
you
want
to
say
anything.
J
Thanks
counselor
and
thanks
to
all
the
community
members
who
testified
been
here
taking
copious
notes
in
the
background,
with
all
the
suggestions
and
looking
forward
to
continuing
the
engagement
on
this
as
we
move
into
the
task
force,
so
just
appreciate
all
the
thoughtful
ideas
and
will
be
helpful
for
us
as
I
move
forward.
So
thank
you
so
much.
B
Great
thank
you
casey
and
we'll
also
send
over,
as
I
said,
all
the
written
testimony
that
we
got
because
yeah.
I
think
this
this
task
force
is
exciting,
but
it'll
only
work
with
everybody
really
involved
everybody
who
is
here
today
and
and
with
and
yeah
sort
of
clear
frameworks
and
timelines
and
metrics.
So,
thanks
to
all
and
with
that,
I
am
announcing
that
this
hearing
of
the
boston
city
council's
pilot
agreements
committee
is
adjourned.