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Docket #0465 - Petition for a Special Law re: An Act Authorizing Additional Licenses for the Sale of Alcoholic Beverages to be Drunk on the Premises in Boston
Docket #0435 - Petition for a Special Law re: An Act Authorizing the City of Boston to Grant Four Additional Licenses for the Sale of Alcoholic Beverages to be Drunk on the Specified Premises
A
Good
morning,
everyone,
I
am
city,
council,
ricardo,
royale,
chair
of
the
committee
on
government
operations.
It
is
thursday
june
16th
2022,
and
we
are
here
today
for
a
remote
hearing
on
docket
number
465
petition
for
a
special
law
regarding
an
act
authorizing
additional
licenses
for
the
sale
of
alcoholic
beverages
to
be
drunk
on
the
premises
in
boston
referred
to
the
committee
on
april
6
2022,
the
sponsors
of
docket
zero.
A
The
city
council
will
be
conducting
this
hearing
virtually
via
zoom
and
is
being
recorded.
This
enables
the
city
council
to
carry
out
its
responsibilities
while
ensuring
public
access
to
its
deliberations
through
adequate
alternative
means.
The
public
may
watch
this
hearing
via
live
stream
at
www.boston.gov
city
council
tv
and
on
xfinity
8
rcn
82,
verizon
964..
A
It
will
also
be
rebroadcasted
at
a
later
date.
Written
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
email
at
ccc.go
at
boston.gov
and
will
be
made
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors
public.
Testimony
will
be
taken
at
the
end
of
this
hearing
if
you
wish
to
sign
up
for
public
testimony
and
have
not
done
so.
Please
email,
christine
o'donnell
at
christine
dot,
o'donnell
o-d-o-n-n-e-l-l
at
boston.gov,
for
the
link
and
your
name
will
be
added
to
the
list.
A
This
morning
I
am
joined
by
my
council
colleagues,
council
president
ed
flynn,
councillor
brian
morrell,
councillor,
frank
baker,
councillor
julia
mejia
and
council
russie
louis
den,
both
home
rule
petitions
before
us
concerned
granting
additional
liquor
licenses
to
the
city
of
boston
by
the
way
of
the
licensing
board
for
docket
zero.
Four
three:
five,
this
home
rule
petition
originally
offered
by
councillor
jen,
mejia
and
mejia,
would
provide
the
ability
for
the
licensing
board
of
the
city
of
boston.
A
Notwithstanding
section
17
chapter
138
of
the
massachusetts
general
laws
to
grant
four
additional
licenses,
which
includes
the
sale
of
alcoholic
beverages,
the
restricted
location
of
the
bruce
c
bowling
municipal
building,
which
is
located
at
2300
washington
street
in
the
roxbury
neighborhood
in
the
city
of
boston.
These
liquor
licenses
would
be
non-transferable
to
any
other
person's
corporation
or
organization,
and
language
written
on
the
license
would
clearly
mark
restricted
to
the
bruce
lee
bowling
municipal
building
and
non-transferable
for
docket
number
465.
A
This
home
rule
petition
was
originally
offered
by
counselors
rarel
louis
jett
and
myself,
and
would
also
allow
the
licensing
board
of
the
city
of
boston.
Notwithstanding
section
17,
chapter
138
of
the
massachusetts
general
laws
to
grant
up
to
200
non-transferable
all
out
all
alcohol
liquor
licenses
over
a
period
of
three
years
to
be
drunk
on
the
premises
specified
in
section
12
of
chapter
138
earlier
referenced
in
the
following
neighborhoods
of
dorchester,
mattapan,
roxbury
and
high
park.
A
This
hearing
is
an
opportunity
for
counselors
to
hear
from
the
administration
on
the
impact
of
both
of
these
homeworld
petitions
and
to
hear
from
advocates
as
well
as
public
testimony
with
that
said,
as
chair
I'll,
be
limiting
counselor
openings.
I
want
to
give
counselors
who
are
here
a
chance
to
stay
in
opening,
but
I'm
asking
you
to
keep
it
brief,
because
we
do
have
some
folks
on
time
restrictions.
A
I
would
start
with
our
original
co-sponsors,
so
councilworld,
luigi
and
mejia,
and
then
we'll
turn
it
over
to
others.
In
order
of
arrival
for
the
administrative
power
panel,
we
have
kathleen
joyce
the
executive
director
of
the
mayor's
office
of
consumer
affairs
and
licensing
and
chairwoman
on
the
licensing
board
for
the
city
of
boston,
danny
green,
the
executive
secretary
of
the
licensing
board
for
the
city
of
boston,
alicia,
porcina,
director
of
small
businesses
for
the
city
of
boston,
maidori,
morikawa,
interim
chief,
economic
development
for
the
city
of
boston.
A
B
C
We
know
that
our
neighborhoods
suffer
from
decades
of
this
investment,
and
so
we're
attempting
to
do
here
is
to
generate
more
business
and
economy
in
our
neighborhoods.
The
bowling
building
one
is
it's
a
special
one,
given
that
the
bowling
building
is
owned
by
the
city
of
boston,
we
are
looking
to
amend
that
homework
petition
to
add
the
strand
theater
in
there
to
maximize
our
efforts
before
the
state
house
and
to
generate
revenue,
revenue
and
economic
activity
in
dorchester
and
in
roxbury.
C
We
know
that
having
gathering
spots,
social
gatherings,
parts
in
our
neighborhood
are
important.
There
are
other
neighborhoods
that
are
really
thriving.
When
we
look
at
the
north
end,
when
you
look
at
other
parts
of
the
city,
that
really
are
have
really
take
advantage
of
having
a
number
of
liquor
licenses
in
their
neighborhood.
C
So
I
think
this
is
a
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
do
that
here
in
our
neighborhoods
that
I
live
in
high
park
and
I'd
like
to
have
more
restaurants,
where
I
can
have
social
gatherings
where
I
can
have
meetings
that
also
serve
alcohol,
and
you
know
that
serving
alcohol
attracts
a
lot
of
folks
to
those
businesses.
So
I'm
a
I'm
looking
forward
to
this
hearing,
I'm
thankful
for
my
co-sponsors
and
administration
for
being
here
to
help
us
push
this
forward.
C
A
Thank
you,
councillor
louisiana.
I
know
we
have
a
hard
stop
from
kathleen
joyce
if
you
would
like
to
go
if
if
the
counselors
are
willing
to
let
kathleen
joyce
just
speak,
because
I
believe
she
has
a
hard
stop
at
10
30.,
if
kathleen
joyce
from
the
administration
would
like
to
would
like
to
say
anything
in
an
opening
or
her
remarks.
The
floor
is
yours.
A
B
Yeah,
I'm
not
gonna
take
up
too
much
time,
because
I
know
we're
in
a
time
constraint
just
wanted
to
echo.
My
colleagues
sentiments.
I
I
think
this
is
an
amazing
opportunity
to
expand
to
expand
economic
and
prosperity
across
the
city,
specifically
in
the
bruce
bowen
building.
We
know
that
we
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
in
that
area,
so
I'm
just
here
to
support
and
answer
any
questions
and
provide
some
input
in
terms
of
what's
going
to
be
the
best
path
forward.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
chair
royal,
thank
you
for
the
administration
and
all
the
advocates
on
this
call
and
all
the
all
my
colleagues
attended
this
hearing.
We
often
use
the
word
equity,
and
if
we
are
focused
on
outcomes,
we
will
ensure
that
bostonians
will
be
able
to
see
visually
or
graphs
and
experience
equity,
see,
grabs
and
experience.
Our
collaborative
efforts
create
equitable
outcomes,
creating
more
jobs,
closing
the
wealth
gap,
enriching
the
quality
of
life
for
our
residents
as
well
as
make
in
our
neighborhoods
the
destination
location.
E
Every
neighborhood
deserves
to
have
walkable
amenities,
places
to
gather,
convene
and
to
build
community.
When
we
invest
in
our
local
businesses,
we
are
investing
in
our
neighborhoods.
This
is
why
we
are
being
corrective
and
intentional
in
our
investments
and
focusing
on
those
neighborhood
neighborhoods
that
have
been
historically
disenfranchised
and
marginalized
when
it
comes
to
obtaining
liquor
licenses
here
in
the
city
of
boston
out
of
the
1448
liquor
licenses
in
our
city,
only
two
restaurants
have
liquor
licenses
in
mattapan
and
only
six
restaurants
on
blue
hill.
E
E
A
Thank
you,
council.
Well,
I'm
now
in
order
of
arrival,
and
I
want
to
note
that
we've
been
joined
by
councilor
baker,
I
I'm
going
to
start
with
councillor
ed
flynn
if
he
has
anything
you'd
like
to
say
and
then
counselor
maker.
If
you
have
anything
you'd
like
to
say
before
we
go
over
to
the
panel
so
counselor
flynn,
the
floor
is
yours.
F
A
G
You,
mr
chair,
just
briefly:
I'm
generally
in
support
of
these
applications.
The
devil
is
in
the
details.
I
look
forward
to
moving
forward.
I
was
involved
in
the
original
when
we,
when
we
granted
the
neighborhood
licenses
and
and
my
district
certainly
benefited
from
that,
but
we
were
also
ready
as
far
as
the
development
and
and
people
willing
to
come
in
and
and
and
execute
on
those.
So
I
look
forward
to
helping
helping
the
counselors
through
this
and
just
some
general
questions
around
different.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
H
Thank
you,
chairperson
arroyo
members
of
the
committee
on
government
operations
and
members
of
the
boston
city
council.
My
name
is
alicia
porcein
and
I'm
the
director
of
small
business
for
the
office
of
economic
opportunity
and
inclusion
and
I'm
joined
by
my
colleagues
here.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
share
the
perspective
of
the
office
of
economic
opportunity
and
inclusion
on
docket
zero.
Four.
Three:
five
petition
for
special
law:
an
act
authorizing
the
city
of
boston,
to
grant
four
additional
licenses
for
the
sale
of
alcoholic
beverages
to
be
drunk
on
specified
premises.
H
We
appreciate
the
sponsors
of
this
home
rumor
petition
councillors,
ruth
zee
louisian
and
julia
mejia,
for
introducing
introducing
this
matter
as
well
as
those
counselors
who
signed
on
in
support
of
this
initiative.
Chief
edua
couldn't
be
here
today,
so
I'm
reading
this
letter
on
his
behalf
and
on
the
the
captain's
behalf.
As
you
know,
the
vision
of
our
office
is
one
of
a
resilient,
economically
equitable,
sustainable
vibrant
city
that
centers
people
and
creates
opportunities
to
build
generational
wealth.
We
are
also
committed
to
employing
all
strategies
to
help
revitalize
bost
the
boston
economy.
H
Docket030435
will
aid
these
efforts
providing
licenses
for
the
bruce
c
bowling
building,
which
includes
two
existing
bipark
owned
restaurants,
soleil
and
dudley
cafe
with
a
third
jazzer
being
set
to
break
ground
later
this
year
and
for
other
small
businesses
and
cultural
institutions
across
the
city
that
will
help
support
ongoing
cultural
programming
and
allow
for
cross
subsidies
from
expanded
event
hosting
opportunities,
docket
zero.
Four
three
five
is
the
first
step
of
what
will
be
a
larger
effort
in
partnership
with
our
colleagues
on
this
boston
city
council
to
expand
the
number
of
available
liquor
licenses.
H
Providing
these
licenses
for
these
specific
locations
will
help
remove
the
costly
burden
of
acquiring
them
on
the
open
market,
which
contributes
the
inequitable
distribution
of
these
wealth
building
tools
and
will
aid
in
aids
a
recovery
effort
for
communities
that
happen
that
have
been
the
hardest
hit
by
the
covert
19
pandemic.
We
look
forward
to
the
discussion
on
this
matter
and
to
working
with
our
city
and
state
colleagues
to
swiftly
adopt
this
measure.
Thank
you.
A
G
G
D
G
G
Is
there
new
language
that
is
going
to
grant
the
strand
a
license
that
we're
looking
to
grant
the
strand
a
license?
Also,
and
is
that
going
to
be
just
operational
like
who
will
that
be
own?
Who
would
that
be
owned
by
because
I'm
assuming
it's
for
just
events
going
in?
Will
that
be
owned
by
someone
that's
managing
this
strand
now
or
by
the
city
of
boston?
How
will
that
work.
D
G
A
E
Yes,
for
specific
catholic
choices,
yeah
yeah,
thank
you
thank
you,
chair
and
hi
hi
kathleen
just
two
quick
questions
for
you
guys.
Can
you
tell
me
if
there
was
any
effect
on
the
transferable
license
value?
You
know
when
we
introduced
this
previously
non-transfer
non-transferable
licenses
in
the
past
and
then
is
there
a
waiting
list
for
liquor
license?
If
so,
how
many
people
on
that
waiting
list
and
how
many
liquor
licenses
does
the
city
have
available
in
that.
D
Thanks
counselor
to
address,
I
think
your
first
question
was
about
the
value
of
the
current
liquor
licenses
in
the
market.
Has
that
been
depleted
at
all
by
the
addition
of
non-transferable
license
licenses?
Is
that
your
question
again,
those
are
like
private
transactions
that
we
don't
regulate
when
someone
buys
a
license
from
another
entity,
that's
a
private
transaction
and
the
market
sort
of
sets.
That
rate
anecdotally.
We
haven't
seen
a
dilution
of
the
value
of
the
current
liquor
licenses
out
there,
based
upon
the
infusion
of
the
last
group
of
licenses
in
2014.
D
The
second
part
was:
do
we
have
a
waiting
list?
We
don't
have
a
waiting
list.
We
track
license
applications
as
they
come
in.
We
check
in
with
licensees
to
see
if
they're
still
still
looking
to
should
a
license
come
back
to
the
city.
We
would
go
back
to
our
recent
agendas
to
see
if
applicants
were
still
interested
in
pursuing
that.
Sometimes
when
we
find
public
need
for
a
license
at
a
hearing,
the
vote
would
be
public
need
pending
event.
We
find
public
need
pending
the
availability
of
the
license.
D
C
B
A
A
Looks
like
no,
so
thank
you
kathleen
for
being
with
us
here
today
and
I'm
glad
we
could
honor
your
heart
stop
at
10
30..
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right
and
so
we're
gonna
go
in
order
of
arrival
for
the
speaking
order
for
questions
for
the
entire
panel
and
so
council
warrell.
That
means
you
followed
by
council
louis
jen,
followed
by
councillor
mejia,
followed
by
council
president
flynn
and
then
followed
by
councillor
baker.
E
Thank
you,
chair
just
one
question
for
the
panel
and
it's
just
about
making
sure
that
you
know
these
efforts
are
coordinated
and
we're
getting
the
impact
that
we
want
when
we're
issuing
these
these
new
license.
So
you
know
what
what
have
we
learned?
You
know
from
past
initiatives
and
what
can
we
put
in
place
to
make
sure
you
know?
E
I
think
council
baker
has
alluded
to
this,
that
you
know
it
sounds
like
it's
getting
businesses
on
board,
getting
developers
on
board,
but
what
what
practices
and
structures
and
infrastructure
can
we
put
together
to
make
sure
that
we
are
having
the
impact
that
we
want?
You
know
making
sure
that
these
licenses
get
the
high
part
get
to
areas
of
door,
chester
that
needed
in
the
matter.
I
You
know
we,
our
team,
is
equipped
in
providing
technical
assistance
and
making
sure
that
people
are
feel
supported,
as
they
navigate
the
system
to
make
sure
that
they're
filling
out
all
the
the
forms
right
and
just
doing
doing
everything
that
they
can
to
put
their
best
foot
forward
on
that.
So
that's
one
thing
that
we
have
discussed
doing
as
we
expand
the
liquor
license
across
the
city.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
midori
and
thank
you
come
to
real.
This
is
something
we've
been
talking
about.
Quite
a
lot
between
the
licensing
board
and
the
opposite.
Economic
opportunity
and
inclusion
is
developing
a
ta
program
specifically
for
restaurant
operators,
because
it
is
more
than
just
you
know,
figuring
out
how
to
fill
out
the
forms,
but
then
also,
should
you
receive
a
license
at
the
end.
J
There's
a
responsibility
that
comes
with
that
as
well,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
equipping
these
businesses
to
really
responsibly
manage
and
operate
these
licenses
and
be
able
to
flourish
because
right
now,
that's
not
necessarily
something
that
we
have
great
capability
for
is
is
have
like
actually
coaching,
these
businesses
through
running
a
liquor
license.
So
we
would
like
to
see
that
happen,
so
we
can
develop
the
pipeline
of
applications
in
these
neighborhoods
and
let
them
run
successfully.
E
Awesome-
and
is
there
any
way
to
you,
know
couple
the
technical
assistance
in
this
pipeline
with
actual
like
rebates,
or
any
funds
like
maybe
like,
build
out
a
bar
or
help
with
the
build
out
of
a
restaurant,
or
you
know,
or
even
with
lawyer
fees,
to
to
help
with
the
assistance
of
getting
these
licenses.
Is
there
any
way
that
we
could
couple?
You
know
actual
funds
or
rebates
with
this
application
process?
Yeah.
I
So
a
couple
of
things
you
know
our
small
business
office,
led
by
alicia
persina,
does
have
a
technical
assistance
program
to
help
small
businesses
find
a
variety
of
things
right.
Legal,
as
you
mentioned,
is
one
of
them.
So
we
pay
third
party
legal
lawyers
and
match
them
with
our
small
businesses
and
provide
assistance
in
whatever
they
need
and
we
pay
for
that
service.
You
know
and
anything
from
ranging
from
website
to
marketing.
You
know
any
any
thing
that
you
need
in
order
to
run
a
successful
business
in
the
city
of
boston.
E
Thank
you
for
that
and,
yes,
I'd
love
to
kind
of,
I
would
love
to
explore.
You
know
coupling.
You
know
that
type
of
program
with
this
application,
restaurant
industry
is,
is
already
a
high
risk.
One
it
takes
high
capital,
so
would
love
to
make
sure
that
we
are
at
least
you
know
very
giving
restaurant
business
owners
a
license.
That's
you
know
starting
them
off
on
the
right
foot.
No
further,
no
further
question
chair.
Thank.
J
Thank
you.
So
I
believe
I
I'm
I
I
might
be
out
of
line
here,
but
I
believe
there's
one
liquor
license
currently
being
operated
within
the
boeing
building,
which
is
a
beer
and
wine
neighborhood
restricted.
So
if
that
were
to,
if
that
operator
were
to
want
one
of
these
for
all
alcohol
licenses,
that
beer
and
wine
license
would
return
to
the
city
as
it
is,
neighborhood
restricted
and
there
is
no
license
from
the
city-
has
no
cost
assigned
to
it.
Aside
from
the
annual
renewal
fee
and
the
application
fee,.
C
J
It
would
be
the
same
process
as
any
other
application
before
the
board.
They
would
fill
out
the
same
application
form
have
a
hearing
before
the
licensing
board
and
if
they
were
granted,
you
know
pending
availability
of
the
license
ports
they
qualify
if
they
were
within
roxbury
or
the
neighborhood
where
that
license
went
to
and
they
would
qualify
and
the
board
found
public
need
that
license
may
go
to
them.
C
J
So
I
I
was
not
here,
then
my
understanding
is
none
of
those
licenses
from
the
2014
legislation.
You're
referring
to
went
to
mattapan
again
my
I
don't
know
I
was
not
here
at
that
time.
Nor
was
the
chair.
My
understanding
is,
there
were
no
applications
for
matapan
for
those
licenses
at
the
time
those
were
filled
out
in
2014,
15
and
16.,
but
I
I
would
have
to
look
further
to
get
you.
You
know
the
accurate
answer.
B
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
kind
of
want
to
just
follow
the
thread
a
little
bit
in
regards
to
some
of
the
questions
that
counselor
rowell
asked,
because
I
do
believe
that
the
one
thing
is
to
have
these
licenses
available.
The
other
piece
of
it
is:
how
do
we
get
them
into
the
hands
of
the
people
who
need
it
most
right?
I
think
that
that's
oftentimes,
where
I
always
see
we're
resource
rich,
but
coordination
poor
in
terms
of
just
just
getting
people
what
they
need.
B
So
I'm
just
curious,
as
we
start
thinking
about
this,
what
what
are
some
of
the?
What
what's?
What's
the
game
plan
in
terms
of
communication
roll
out?
I'm
just
curious
about
kind
of
how
we're
going
to
set
ourselves
up
for
success
and
what
are
what
are
some
of
the
barriers
that
you
potentially
foresee
folks
experiencing
and
then
how
can
we
get
ahead
of
that.
B
I
don't
know
if
that
question
is
appropriate
for
this
here
counselor
arroyo,
but
I
do
want
to
have
a
better
understanding
just
because
we
are
going
to
be
passing
this
home
repetition,
and
I
think
that
we
have
to
think
positively
that
this
is
going
to
pass.
And
if
it
does,
I
just
kind
of
want
to
hear
kind
of
a
plan
of
action
and
implementation.
J
You
know
I
I
will
just
say:
should
these
you
know
additional
licenses,
be
you
know,
issued
by
the
state.
The
licensing
board
is
ready
to
operationalize
at
any
time.
We,
you
know
hold
hearings
consistently.
We
will
always
be
willing
to
hear
any
application
that
comes
that
is
eligible
for
any
of
these
licenses.
J
I
think
the
piece
of
getting
folks,
teed
up
and
ready
to
apply
and
then
ready
to
receive
these
licenses
and
operate
them
well,
really
will
be
a
function
of
the
ta
program
that
we
would
like
to
start
with
the
office
of
small
business
and
with
economic
opportunity
and
inclusion.
I
think
the
details.
I
don't
know
that
they're
fully
fleshed
out
yet
at
this
time,
but
that's
what
we
would
like
to
do.
J
I
I
So
I
think
we
will
do
a
lot
of
the
grassroots
sort
of
approach
to
that,
and,
thanks
to
you
know,
alicia's
team,
diverse
team,
you
know
we
do
have
a
mini
language
capability.
We
could
do
better,
but
they
we
do
have
that,
and
we've
also
been
working
with
our
office
neighborhood
services
to
do
these
neighborhood
walks
and
just
just
being
visible
right
and
just
making
sure
that
people
are
aware
to
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
information
gap
for
our
communities.
B
You
know
I
I
lit
up
y'all
when,
when
I
heard
the
language
interpretation
and
and
just
the
because
they're
you
know
that
that's
definitely
one
of
the
biggest
barriers
for
a
lot
of
folks.
You
know
we
have
haitian
restaurants,
you
know
latinx,
and
so
it's
just
great
that
you
all
are
being
super,
mindful
of
making
sure
that
these
small
businesses
also
recognize
this
unique
opportunity
and
that
they
are
set
up
for
success.
B
A
G
So
when
do
we
get
into,
I
know
it's,
it's
probably
a
question
for
brian
again
more
like
so:
it's
200
non-transferable
licenses.
So
how?
How
are
they
breaking
down
into
neighborhoods,
and
is
it
like?
How
are
we
rolling
those
out?
Is
it?
Is
it
five
per
neighborhood
in
first
year
or
or
how
is
that
going
to
work
200?
How
over
how
many
years
over
like
into
what
neighborhoods.
E
G
Yeah
yeah,
yeah,
okay,
okay,
and
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
because
in
the
original
legislation
which
I
was,
which
I
was
part
of,
it
really
came
down
to
development
happening
in
in
neighborhoods
that,
like
a
lot
of
my
neighbors,
didn't
have
the
development
or
the
money
on
the
investment
coming
in
you
know
20
years
ago,
and
it
kind
of
hit,
as
we
had
investment
coming
into.
You
know
adam's
going
and
got
a
couple
of
the
licenses
and
dot
ave
got
a
couple
of
licenses.
So
so
I
think
it.
G
I
think
there
were
six
or
seven
of
them
any
little
way.
They
came
that
came
to
district
three
and
helped
my
really
help
my
my
business
areas,
but
their
needs
investment
there
needs
to
be.
You
need
to
have
somehow
private
investment
coming
into
your
into
into
neighborhoods
that
are
going
to
have
city
help.
It's
not
going
to
be
all
driven
by
city
resources,
because,
speaking
from
experience,
I
I
I
had
a
restaurant,
I
owned
a
restaurant.
I
took
it.
I
took
a.
I
took
a
rundown
straw
front
that
I
rehabbed
myself.
G
It
was
a
huge
commitment
and
then,
when
you
got
all
that
done,
you
have
to
operate
the
restaurant
and
that's
you
know
12
hours
a
day,
and
so
it's
a
it's
a
big
big
investment
not
only
just
dollars,
but
also
time
that
restaurant
industry-
and
you
know
not
everybody,
not
everybody
wants
to
do
that.
I
mean
it's
easier
to
just,
I
guess,
have
a
job
someplace
but
yeah.
I
think
I
think,
as
a
district
council
brian,
your
role
in
in
shepherding
this
through
into
your
neighborhood,
is
going
to
be
about.
G
How
are
you
going
to
get
dollars
into
your
neighborhood
and
also
you
need
some
kind
of
density
also
so
you
have
to
you
have
to
almost
advocate
for
density
and
development,
which
goes
counter
what
some
people
are
thinking
now
you
know
to
be
able
to
get
those
restaurants
in
in
on
your
commercial
districts
and
be
able
to
be
supported.
You
need
people
walking
there.
You
need
people
that
live
around
me.
G
You
need
people
that
live
in
the
neighborhood
and
kind
of
go
to
your
restaurant,
to
say,
hi
to
brian
three
nights
a
week
and
get
dinner
for
myself
and
my
kids,
that
sort
of
thing
taco
and
maybe
and
maybe
you're,
sitting
twice
a
week.
So
that's
a
little
bit
off
topic
and
not
necessarily
legislative.
It's
very
much
about
community
building,
I
think,
but
but
that's
you're,
the
new
district
city
councilor
up
there
brian,
so
I
think
it's.
I
think
you
have
a
a
a
unique
way
to
go
about
this.
G
So
I
don't
know
if
that
added
to
the
to
the
conversation
as
far
as
the
legislation
is
concerned,
but
it's
more
than
just
the
legislation
and
having
the
licenses
available.
It's
it's
a
lot
of
community
building.
So
that's
what
I
found.
That's
that's
what
I
had.
I
had
development
on
its
way
when
this
was
was
all
happening,
so
we
cultivated
it
and
and
allowed
businesses
to
come
in.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
councillor,
baker,
for
that
and
as
it
you
know,
our
district
does
have
a
good
amount
of
new
projects
coming
on
board
up
and
down.
Dorchester
ave,
blue
hill
ave
and
it's
just
different
pockets
of
the
neighborhood
and
your
wheat.
You
know
our
our
our
constituents
and
our
neighbors
are
asking
for
more
commercial
spaces
in
those
developments.
So
we
plan
we,
we
hope
to
see
more
spaces
and
also
those
existing
restaurants
that
are
operating
now.
That
might
have
the
size
to
do
more
sitting.
A
So,
right
now,
before
we
go
to
the
advocates
panel,
who
I
think
are
all
actually
here,
I
want
to
make
sure
everybody
if
you
have
any
follow-up
questions
or
any
questions
for
the
panel
that
is
still
here
and
I'm
going
to
start
with
you
counselor
mejia.
But
for
anybody
who
is
still
here
just
raise
your
hand,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
everybody
and
see
if
you
have
so
just
raise
your
your
zoom
hand,
and
let
me
know,
but
counselor
here
floyd's
yours.
B
How
do
we
support
them
to
ensure
that
they're
bringing
in
the
revenue
to
continue
to
to
stay
open
because
all
of
those
things
go
hand
in
hand,
because
otherwise
we're
going
to
keep
finding
ourselves
in
these
conversations
where
we
are
securing
licenses
for
dorchester
roxbury
mattapan,
but
then
we're
not
setting
up
these
businesses
up
for
success.
So
I
just
think
it's
something
for
us
to
continue
to
to
think
about
as
we
explore
this
conversation
and
that
might
be.
B
A
E
J
Yeah
there
there
is
there's,
definitely
more
of
a
demand
than
there
is
for
licenses
right
now.
You
know,
as
kathleen
was
saying
at
our
hearings
when
someone
applies
for
a
new
license,
they
are
granted
pending
the
availability
of
a
license
for
which
they
qualify
and
right
now
that
is,
you
know,
most
new
applications.
We
get
because
there
aren't.
J
I
would
have
to
get
you
the
exact
number,
I
think.
In
the
past
a
year
there
was
probably
in
the
ballpark
of
40
to
50
applications
that
we
were
not
able
to
fulfill
that
came
before
the
board.
But
again
we
don't
know
what
the
need
would
be.
Should
we
actually
get
these
licenses?
We
don't
know
if
that's
because
that's
the
real
need
out
there
or
that's
just
what
folks
know,
because
they
know
there
aren't
licenses
for
them.
So
demand
seems
low.
We
frankly
don't
know.
J
A
Thank
you,
council
rel,
I'm!
If
there's
no
further
hands,
I
don't
see
any
further
hands.
I'm
going
to
release
the
administration,
though,
if
you
would
like
to
stay
and
hear
from
the
advocates
that
would
be
welcome.
I'm
gonna
introduce
the
advocates.
Now
we
are
joined
today
by
steve
clark,
who
is
the
chief
operating
officer
for
the
massachusetts
restaurant
association,
nia
grace
owner
of
daryl's
corner
bar
and
kitchen
and
co-founder
of
the
boston
black
hospitality
coalition,
jody
adams
founding
member
and
co-chair
of
massachusetts.
A
Restaurants,
united
chris
maxey
accounted
advisor
from
prefix
accountants
and
nick
corn
principal
of
off-site,
and
so
with
that
I'm
going
to
go
in
the
order
that
I've
introduced
you
if
you
have
any
quick
opening
statements,
and
so
that's
starting
with
steve
clark,
followed
by
mia
grace,
followed
by
jody
adams,
followed
by
chris
maxie,
followed
by
nick
porn
so
steve
clark.
The
floor
is
yours:.
K
As
the
chair
said,
my
name
is
stephen
clark,
I'm
the
chief
operating
officer
of
the
mass
restaurant
association
and
I'm
here
to
offer
a
few
comments
on
both
pieces
of
legislation
and
and
I'm
happy
to
offer
some
other
comments
on
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
been
talking
about
in
the
last
go
around
as
counselors
have
asked
questions
about
success
of
restaurants
and
how
we
drive
successive
restaurants.
So
to
start
off,
I
just
want
to
offer
support
of
zero
four
three
five.
This
is
an
important
piece
of
legislation.
K
K
Moving
over
to
zero
four
six
five,
we
wanna
go
on
the
record
in
support
of
the
idea
of
more
licenses.
We
absolutely
need
more
licenses
in
the
neighborhoods
that
are
mentioned,
and
this
is
the
way
to
get
it
done.
I
want
to
raise
a
couple
of
questions
actually,
on
section
two,
I
think
section
two
is
a
really
really
interesting
idea,
as
in
attempts
to
address
the
supply
and
demand
model
that
that
drives
the
listen,
the
license
acquisition
cost
in
the
city.
K
I
do
think
it
gets
a
little
more
complicated
and
I
think
the
complication
of
the
issues
in
section
two
are
going
to
slow
down
the
progress
of
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
in
section
one.
Some
of
the
questions
that
that
might
come
up
section
two
past
as
it
is
right
now
is
who
gets
those
new
licenses?
Is
it
a
first
come
first
serve
basis?
What
neighborhoods
do
they
go
into?
K
Do
they
go
to
those
aforementioned
license
of
applying,
but
can't
actually
get?
One
we've
been
talking
with
a
couple
of
different
restaurant
operators
that
are
trying
to
go
into
neighborhoods
that
don't
have
those
licenses
and
are
on
those
lists,
and
so
they
may
not
technically
be
considered
a
a
waiting
list.
But
there
are
a
number
of
those
restaurants
that
are
are
trying
to
expand
their
businesses,
and
so
you
know
would
they
get
those
licenses?
K
Could
they
go
anywhere
in
the
city?
Could
they
go
to
the
back
bay?
Could
they
go
to
the
seaport,
which
kind
of
goes
against
everything
we're
trying
to
accomplish
with
section
one?
So
I
just
think
that
section
two
is
really
well
intentioned
and
I
think
it's
a
good
idea,
but
I
think
it
needs
more
vetting
and
more
conversation
of
how
that's
actually
going
to
roll
out,
and
I
wouldn't
want
to
see
any
hindrance
of
what
we're
actually
trying
to
do
in
section
one.
K
So
you
know
inherently
there's
a
need
for
licenses
in
those
neighborhoods
and
I
would
want
to
see
the
legislation
slow
down
as
we
get
into
the
much
more
in-depth
conversation
of
undoing
70
years
of
the
quota
system
in
the
city
and
what
that's
going
to
take.
You
know
every
time
over
the
last
10
years.
K
Every
time
we've
had
those
conversations
when
you
pull
on
one
string
and
know
the
string
does
have
a
reaction,
and
so
there
are
some
intended
consequences,
but
there's
also
unintended
consequences
and
again
don't
want
to
slow
down
the
progress
of
what
we're
truly
trying
to
do,
which
is
get
more
licenses
into
the
to
the
neighborhoods
that
need
them.
So
I
I
know
the
panel
is
limited
on
time.
I
don't
want
to
go
too
much
further.
K
K
I'm
not
sure
if
anyone
saw
the
report
recently
in
ink
magazine,
but
it
talked
about
the
steps
that
a
boston
restaurant
has
to
go
through
to
get
open
and
it's
a
92
steps.
22
forms
a
minimum
of
17
in-person
activities,
nine
different
agencies
and
12
different
fees,
and
that's
all
before
one
customer
goes
into
a
restaurant.
K
So
if
there's
another
point
that
I
just
want
a
broader
conversation
topic
for
the
future,
is
you
know
the
restaurant
cost
continues
to
run
and
there's
a
big
cost
to
getting
that
restaurant
open
before
any
customer
walks
through
the
door.
So
how
can
we
streamline
that
process
and
make
it
more
entrepreneurial
friendly
so
that
they
can
at
least
get
in
the
door
a
lot
of
times
new
registers
run
into
the
struggle
of
they
have
enough
capital
to
get
themselves
open?
K
L
Thank
you
good
morning,
chair
and
william
good
morning.
I
just
also
on
behalf
of
the
black
hospitality
coalition,
just
want
to
go
on
record
to
support
petition
zero.
Four
three
five.
I
think
that
some
of
the
research
that
will
come
out
and
and
have
been
discussed
to
get
to
this
point
is
really
key.
We're
just
simply,
and
even
to
to
echo
what
steve
clark
said.
L
The
ability
just
to
have
the
license
doesn't
guarantee
a
restaurant
or
success,
but
we
really
just
need
the
access,
and
so
that's
what
we
are
talking
about
right
here
is
to
really
focus
on
having
the
ability
to
have
the
access
to
to
even
get
to
that
point
to
to
try
to
visualize
success.
So
that's
what
I
have
for
right
now.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you
all
thank
you,
chair
and,
and
everybody
who's
here.
Thank
you,
steve
for
speaking
so
poignantly
to
this
issue
and
thank
you
for
inviting
me
to
speak.
I
I
I'm
speaking
as
a
restaurateur
as
a
and
also
as
a
resident
of
dorchester.
I've
been
in
the
restaurant
business
for
40
years.
I
was
one
of
the
chefs
that
helped
build
the
foundation
of
boston's
restaurant
culture,
klos
rialto
trade,
porto
salaniki.
I
currently
have
three
full
service
and
three
fast
casual,
four
in
boston,
one
at
the
airport
and
two
in
cambridge.
M
M
Restaurants
employ
hundreds
or
we
employ
hundreds
of
people,
pay
all
kinds
of
taxes
to
the
city
and
state
and
we
kept
all
but
one
of
our
restaurants
open
during
covid
for
guests.
Alcohol
plays
an
important
role
in
where
they
choose
to
dine
full-service
sit-down
restaurants
are
places
where
people
gather
to
connect,
create
friendships
and
memories,
celebrate
joys
and
sorrows
and
spin
ideas.
M
M
A
carefully
prepared
plate
of
food
is
enhanced,
balanced
and
completed
by
a
paired
glass
of
wine.
To
create
this
experience,
a
liquor
license
is
critical
and
therefore
critical
to
attracting
customers
to
a
restaurant.
I
think
I'm
preaching
to
the
choir
here.
I
don't.
I
don't
think
I
really
need
to
go
on
with
my
testimony
and
story
about
the
importance
of
liquor
licenses.
M
I
just
know
that
when
we
opened
trade
11
years
ago
on
the
greenway
on
the
corner
of
atlantic
avenue
and
congress
street,
the
greenway
was
quiet.
There
was
not
much
going
on
the
elevated
rail
had
just
come
down
occupy
boston,
as
you
remember,
was
in
full
swing
and
the
seaport
was
yet
to
be
built.
There
were
a
few
reasons
for
people
to
head
our
way,
except
those
who
were
ready
already
there,
because
it
was
where
they
worked.
M
We
were
taking
a
chance,
we're
making
a
commitment
to
help,
build
and
breathe
life
into
the
neighborhood
and
would
never
have
opened
trade
without
a
liquor
license.
We
anticipated
and
were
correct,
that
after
four
o'clock,
those
workers
would
be
looking
for
a
place
to
get
a
cocktail,
a
beer
or
a
glass
of
wine
and
a
bite,
and
we
were
right.
M
We
are
now
an
anchor
in
that
neighborhood
and
we
are
the
reason
that
the
landlord
was
able
to
attract
the
kinds
of
businesses
and
tenants
to
their
condo
and
office
buildings
during
covid.
Without
people
in
offices
there
was
no
business
there.
Trade
was
the
restaurant
of
ours
that
remained
closed
for
almost
two
years
right
now.
Office
tenants
are
coming
back
only
three
days
a
week,
we're
busy
on
those
days,
but
without
a
huge
part
of
the
neighborhood.
M
The
office
building
is
dead
on
mondays
and
fridays.
However,
people
are
coming
on
weekends
because
we're
a
destination
we're
a
reason.
People
are
coming
to
the
neighborhood,
all
neighborhoods
in
boston,
need
and
deserve
restaurants
that
bring
people
together.
Where
exciting
things
can
happen.
Restaurants,
create
and
reinforce
the
culture
of
a
neighborhood
and
keep
it
lively
and
safe.
M
Restaurants
are
in
the
business
of
food
and
beverage,
they
go
hand
in
hand
and
for
adults,
the
beverage
is
often
alcohol
in
order
to
serve
cocktails
beer
and
wine.
Restaurateurs
need
liquor.
Licenses
90
to
95
cents
of
every
dollar
that
comes
into
our
restaurants,
goes
right
back
out
into
the
economy
and
the
more
support
that
we
can
provide
to
restaurateurs
across
boston,
neighborhoods,
the
bigger
and
stronger
and
better.
M
N
N
Nick
corn
asked
me
to
join
you
today,
because
I
believe
I
can
provide
some
useful
insight
into
the
discussion
of
the
value
of
an
alcoholic
beverage
license
for
the
full
service
for
a
full-service
restaurant
in
the
world
of
business.
Independent
restaurants,
sit
down.
Restaurants
are
not
a
pro
profitable
endeavor.
N
It's
an
industry
of
folks
that
are
passionate
about
what
they
do,
not
how
much
money
they
make.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
a
successful
50-seat
restaurant
in
an
urban
market
might
make
over
1.5
million
dollars
in
revenue,
but
with
slim
profit
margins
averaging
five
to
eight
percent
owners
make
a
very
modest
income.
Considering
the
effort
that
running
a
restaurant
requires
regardless,
the
economic
impact
of
restaurants
are
profound.
N
The
best
type
of
business
for
a
local
economy
offers
high
revenue
low
profit
margins,
high
payroll
costs,
as
these
expenses
are
injected
back
into
the
local
economy.
Many
times
over
opening
a
restaurant
is
a
balancing
act.
These
slim
profit
margins
mean
life
or
death
for
any
restaurant
concept,
the
largest
drivers
of
cost
for
a
restaurant
or
food
and
beverage
labor,
occupancy
costs,
overhead
and
general
administrative
costs
for
a
full-service,
sit-down
restaurant.
The
occupancy
costs
in
overhead
are
even
higher.
N
Thus,
the
lower
bottom
line-
full-service
restaurants,
are
generally
establishments
that
have
seating
and
table
service.
Thus
they
require
a
much
larger
footprint
and
much
more
robust
filled
out
cost
than
that
of
a
limited
service.
Restaurant,
which
generally
doesn't
have
much
or
any
seating
and
offers
a
much
more
grab-and-go
style
of
service,
regardless
of
the
type
of
restaurant
operator,
operators,
group,
food
beverage
and
labor
costs
together
and
compare
it
to
revenue.
N
N
Achieving
this
number
is
a
strong
indicator
that
a
restaurant
is
going
to
have
a
profitable
month.
Restaurants
without
a
beverage
license
are
entirely
reliant
on
the
profits
from
food
and
non-alcoholic
beverage.
Revenue
expectations
for
profit
margins
for
food
are
between
68
and
72
percent.
Depending
on
the
concept,
we
must
also
consider
the
labor
cost
associated
with
this
food
production,
which
is
roughly
22
to
25
percent
of
revenue
together.
This
brings
the
profitability
of
food
revenue
down
to
43
percent.
N
Now,
when
a
restaurant
adds
a
beverage
license
to
their
business,
two
things
happen.
First,
it
increases
the
check
average
or
the
revenue
per
guest.
Second,
it
adds
a
more
profitable
product
to
the
mix
profit
margins
for
liquor.
Wine
and
beer
are
roughly
78
based
on
the
profitability
of
each
type
of
alcohol.
N
N
Now
I
throw
all
these
numbers
at
you,
because
I'd
like
to
illustrate
a
point.
First,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
target
gross
margin
for
a
restaurant
is
45
for
a
restaurant
only
serving
food,
the
average
profit
margin
is
43
percent
dangerously
close
to
the
ideal,
as
I
mentioned
before.
This
is
ideal,
not
actual,
however,
with
the
addition
of
an
alcoholic
beverage
license
to
the
mix.
Not
only
does
it
increase
revenue
but
it,
but
it
also
increases
profitability
and
brings
the
gross
margin
to
a
lower
and
much
more
achievable
average
gross
margin.
N
At
the
end
of
the
day,
these
numbers
are
are
not
real
that
you
see
day
to
day,
it's
very
often
that
a
restaurant
encounters
many
additional
unforeseen
costs
on
a
monthly
basis,
such
as
building
maintenance
and
repairs,
landscaping,
decor
equipment,
rentals
inflation,
coven,
19
and
many
other
expenses
that
pile
up
from
month
to
month.
If
a
restaurant
is
just
scraping
by
any
one
of
these
expenses
can
mark
failure
for
a
cat
can
mark
failure,
as
cash
flow
for
a
restaurant
is
often
week
to
week
or
month
to
month.
N
So
with
that
being
said,
the
addition
of
an
alcoholic
beverage
license
is
absolutely
pivotable,
pivotal
to
a
full-service
restaurant
success
that
isn't
to
say
that
it
isn't
possible
for
a
full-service
restaurant
to
succeed
without
a
beverage
license.
It
purely
comes
down
to
the
fact
that
it
makes
the
chance
of
success
for
a
full-service
restaurant
that
much
higher
by
having
a
little
bit
more
room
to
breathe
by
offering
alcoholic
beverage
to
their
guests.
A
Thank
you,
nick
corn,
the
the
floor
is
yours
and
then
we'll
go
to
counselor
questions
and
I
just
want
to
know
we
were
joined
a
while
ago
by
councillor
coletta,
but
we
are
also
joined
by
councillor
large
eric
murphy.
Thank
you
both
for
joining
us
council,
mr
corn.
If
you
can
go
first
and
then
we'll
go
to
the
to
the
panel
to
the
counselors.
O
Thank
you
to
the
council
and
to
the
chair
for
providing
the
space
to
have
this
conversation
about
a
really
important
issue,
and
for
inviting
me
to
be
part
of
that.
My
name's
nick
coren,
I'm
a
small
business
owner
and
I'm
a
resident
of
boston.
I've
been
asked
to
sit
on
this
panel
because
I've
gathered
information
from
all
disparate
sources
at
the
city
and
the
state
level,
including
interviews
with
dozens
of
restaurant
operators
into
a
report
that
we're
calling
license
to
succeed
which
I've
submitted
as
testimony
to
this
council.
O
The
goal
of
this
effort
was
to
provide
you
with
the
data
testimony
and
lessons
from
the
past,
so
that
you
may
be
able
to
build
the
most
informed
strategic
policy
that
has
the
best
chance
of
making
it
into
law.
However,
I
also
see
sorry
we're
living
in
a
in
a
world
right
now
with
structural
limitations,
institutionalized
racism
and
gross
disparity.
Our
current
licensing
system
is
squashing
innovation.
O
It's
excluding
first-time
operators,
it's
concentrating
wealth
and
privilege,
and
it's
preventing
hard-working
innovative
people
from
opening
their
small
businesses
here
in
the
city
of
boston,
to
build
on
what
councilor
baker
said
about
developing
neighborhoods
and
commercial
districts.
The
lack
of
licenses
is
an
essential
piece
of
developing
our
neighborhoods
and
continuing
to
move
into
the
future
that
we
want
for
our
city
policy,
got
us
into
this
place,
and
policy
must
get
us
out.
O
I'm
here
to
voice
support
for
the
home
rule
petition
to
create
additional
restricted
liquor
licenses
in
the
city,
I'll
defer
to
my
co-panelists
and
to
the
experts,
from
whom
we've
already
heard,
to
weigh
in
on
the
importance
of
restaurants
and
neighborhoods,
the
importance
of
alcohol
sales
for
businesses
to
exist
and
to
thrive.
But
with
that
in
mind,
I
want
to
share
three
key
points
with
you.
O
First,
at
its
core
in
boston,
licensing
is
an
equity
issue.
In
the
report
that
I've
submitted
to
the
council.
We
enumerate
this
point
to
a
significantly
further
degree
than
I
will
go
into
here,
but
for
the
purposes
of
today,
suffice
it
to
say
that
there's
an
undeniable
correlation
between
how
white
a
neighborhood
is
and
how
many
licenses
it
has.
The
unregulated
secondary
market
for
liquor
licenses
has
concentrated
them
into
particular
neighborhoods,
at
the
detriment
of
others.
O
If
you
look
at
page
26
and
27
of
our
report,
you'll
see
boston's
neighborhoods
plotted
out
according
to
demographics
and
licenses
in
those
neighborhoods
and
I'll
share
some
key
learnings
from
that
data
using
the
2020
census.
Data
boston
has
four
neighborhoods
that
are
over
75
white
and
four
neighborhoods
that
are
over
75
percent
non-white.
When
we
compare
those
two
neighborhoods,
the
four
neighborhoods
that
are
over
75
percent
non-white
make
up
35
percent
of
our
population,
but
just
nine
percent
of
our
licenses.
O
O
Secondly,
restricted
licenses
can
work
and
we
should
have
more
of
them
of
the
restricted
license
folders
with
whom
we
spoke,
many
of
whose
voices
are
included
in
our
report,
the
overwhelming
majority
stated
that
they
would
not
have
their
businesses
if
they
had
not
received
a
restricted
license
with
intentionality.
I'm
optimistic
that
the
policy
under
consideration
can
build
upon
the
lessons
of
the
past
and
establish
a
fair
and
equitable
system
for
the
creation
and
allocation
of
more
restricted
like
liquor
licenses
in
the
neighborhoods
that
desperately
need
them.
O
Finally,
licenses
should
be
seen
as
a
first
step
as
one
operator
so,
astutely
put
it
a
liquor
license,
isn't
a
golden
ticket.
It's
an
opportunity
to
work
harder.
Steve
already
mentioned
the
institute
of
justice's
barrier
to
business
study,
but
boston
among
20
cities
being
considered
was
number
one
in
terms
of
how
many
steps
it
takes
to
open
a
restaurant
92.,
that's
more
than
any
other
city
considered,
and
that
does
not
include
the
process
of
obtaining
a
liquor
license.
O
A
liquor
license,
isn't
a
panacea
and
building
upon
what
councillor
warrell
said,
deputy
chief
murakawa
director
persina.
Everyone
mentioned
that
the
city
has
programs
to
support
operators
and
potential
operators,
but
I
believe
the
city
could
and
likely
should
do
more.
We've
included
recommendations
in
our
report
based
on
feedback
from
operators
that
call
for
technical
assistance,
professional
services,
translation
services,
coaching
and
financial
support
in
closing.
Restaurants
have
much
more
much
larger
impacts
than
just
serving
food.
Restaurants
create
jobs,
they
create
relationships,
they
create
wealth,
they
create
neighborhoods
and
they
create
functional
humans.
O
I
am
who
I
am
because
of
restaurants
and
boston
is
the
city
that
it
is
because
of
our
restaurants.
Thank
you
to
the
council
under
the
chair
for
taking
up
this
issue
and
for
allowing
me
a
few
minutes
to
speak
about
it.
As
I
noted
previously,
there's
much
more
analysis
data
and
testimony
in
the
report
that
I've
submitted
to
the
council,
I'm
happy
to
do
my
best
to
answer
any
questions
that
the
council
may
have.
Thank
you
for
the
time.
A
Thank
you
we're
going
to
go
in
order
of
arrival
for
questions.
I
just
want
to
note
that
counselor
flaherty
has
been
with
us
for
some
time.
I
didn't
see
his
his
his
zoom
photo,
but
counselor
flaherty
has
been
with
us
for
some
time.
So
he's
also
joined
us
for
folks.
That
means
that
the
order
for
questions
for
advocates
is
council.
Well
counselor
louis
jen
counselor
mejia
counselor
flynn,
followed
by
councillor
baker,
followed
by
councillor
coletta,
followed
by
councillor
murphy,
followed
by
council
flaherty.
A
E
E
You
know
even
rental
costs,
but
I
know
that
will
vary
from
location
to
neighborhood
neighborhood
to
no
neighborhood.
Can
you
kind
of
give
me
the
steps
in
a
ballpark
cost
of
those
startup
costs
that
every
restaurant
will
more
than
likely
have
to
go
through
and
then
also?
My
other
question
is:
can
you
talk
to
me
about?
You
know
the
economic
impacts,
whether
it's
like
a
dollar
amount
or
a
percentage
amount
of
how
liquor
licenses
can
help
a
a
restaurant,
because
I
really
find
it
so
impressive.
E
Within
my
district
of
how
many
takeout
restaurants
have
had
you
know
the
ability
to
expand
and
and
grow
and
stay
in
business
for
so
many
years
without
a
liquor
license,
but
just
kind
of
want
to
get
an
understanding
of
the
economic
impacts
of
liquor
licenses
for
for
restaurants,
and
then
also
anyone
who
have
who
has
gone
through
the
process
of
of
attaining
the
liquor
license.
If
they
could
speak
to
that.
L
Great
question
brian:
I
would
love
to
defer
to
miss
adams
there,
but
with
all
her
history,
but
I
can
just
go
from
my
experience
with
working
with
two.
You
know
we
couldn't
give
you
just
one
ballpark
figure,
because
every
restaurant
is
different
from
the
one
that
is
500
square
feet
to
the
one
that
might
be
4
500
square
feet.
There
are
significant
differences
and
costs,
but
one
thing
you
can
count
on
is
that
you
know
it
starts
off
with
that
lease
right.
L
You
might
have
an
attorney,
that's
dedicated
for
leasing,
I
mean,
if
you
are
looking
into
full,
serve
or
licensing,
you
might
have
attorney
that's
different
than
that
and
you'd
be
lucky
to
have
one
attorney
who
can
address
both
the
leasing
and
the
licensing
in
terms
of
equipment
and
build
out.
That's
a
cost.
If
you
get
into
a
second
generation
space
that
tends
to
be
a
benefit
to
the
restaurant
tour,
where
there
might
be
some
efficiencies
that
are
already
built
out.
L
Your
kitchens,
your
your
restrooms,
some
of
the
equipment
that
you
might
even
be
able
to
utilize,
but
sometimes
using
equipment
from
another
restaurant
or
five
or
three
to
five
years
even
in
existence,
may
not
be
to
your
benefit
because
you
don't
know
what
the
issues
are,
and
you
might
end
up
spending
more
money
trying
to
do
repairs
than
you
are
than
you
would.
If
you
just
bought
that
outright.
So
we
went
from
our
equipment
to
the
build
out
and
now
we're
talking
about
furnishings.
L
You
know,
that's
your
chairs,
your
tables,
your
china,
making
that
decision
is
even
something
that
is
time
consuming
on
what
you
are
going
to
go
with.
Are
you
going
to
go
with
something
that
you
know
you
might
be
replacing
every
month
if
you've
got
a
high
volume
place
that
has
a
lot
of
activity?
You
might
be
replacing
that
every
couple
of
weeks,
depending
on
when
you
go
from
there,
we're
talking
about
our
insurances,
where
that's
insurance,
not
just
for
the
building
it
might
be.
L
For
you
know,
you've
got
your
workman's
comp.
If
you
have
a
vehicle,
then
you
have
that
as
well.
Again,
you
are
now
getting
into
that
space
of
your
inventory.
Your
inventory
is
what
you're
starting
with,
and
you
know,
I
think.
A
large
challenge
that
I
tend
to
mention
is
that
for
the
smaller
or
newer
restaurant
who
gets
into
the
space
they're
not
going
to
have
the
same
kind
of
credit
terms
as
others
and
so
often
they're
getting
into
the
space
with
cod
cash
on
demand
delivery.
L
That
means
they're
not
going
to
give
you
that
product
until
they
have
that
money.
When
you
do
get
a
line
of
credit,
even
when
you're
starting
out
you
might
get
it
for
and
in
some
instances
seven
days
so
imagine
having
to
to
bring
in
enough
food
or
beverage,
and
only
getting
seven
days
on
that
for
which
it
might
take
about
four
or
rather
14
days
to
even
have
the
money
to
pay
those
bills.
L
And
so
a
lot
of
us
when
you
get
started,
you'll
see
us
at
the
restaurant
depot
or
somewhere
else,
local
in
the
meat
district
or
picking
up
our
stuff,
because
we
don't
have
the
credit
to
to
get
a
supplier
that'll,
deliver
it
and
actually
give
us
some
of
our
time
back.
So
I
I
can,
I
think,
and
someone
else
can
chime
in
and
hit
me
where
I
might
have
missed
some
points.
L
But
the
number
I
mean
you,
I
would
say,
even
for
the
2500
square
foot
venue,
that's
opening,
and
if
it's
new
I
mean
the
number
is
definitely
in
excess
of
250
000
and
that's
on
the
low
end.
And
it
really
just
depends
on
your
concept
and
that
didn't
even
count
for
if
it
was
a
full
transferable,
full
value
license
which
can
add
on
another
300
000
plus.
L
I
would
just
say
I
mean,
then
I
can
get
off
the
floor
with
this.
Is
that
when
we
look
at
the
value
of
a
liquor
license
to
a
bill
now,
when
we're
talking
about
I'm
serving
up
my
food
and
whatever
other
amenities
that
I
have
we're.
Looking
at
at
least
a
25
increase
on
a
bill
by
having
a
liquor
license,
and
that
is
significant
for
us
in
business.
A
O
One
of
our
operators
that
we
spoke
to
has
a
business
in
quincy
and
they
tried
to
open
in
boston
for
a
long
time
and
they
ended
up
leaving
the
city
and
they
said
for
the
price
of
only
the
liquor
license
in
boston.
I
can
now
have
my
full
restaurant
built
and
open
in
quincy.
So
that's
a
fundamental
problem.
O
Restaurants,
and
it's
kind
of
undeniable-
that
spending
money
in
a
independently
owned
neighborhood
restaurant
has
twice
as
much
recirculation
of
wealth
back
into
that
neighborhood
than
if
a
chain
restaurant
goes
back
into
that
space,
so
with
boston
with
the
city
of
boston,
supporting
small
businesses
and
with
small
businesses
being
engines
for
job
creation.
I
think
it's
undeniable
that
among
those
small
businesses
and
locally
owned
businesses,
we
need
more
restaurants
and
specifically
full-service
restaurants,
to
the
point
that
the
points
that
chris
was
making
in
our
neighborhoods.
Thank
you.
A
M
Just
wanted
to
add
on
to
this,
I
think
that
chris
probably
could
talk
to
the
dollar
specific
dollars
and
percentages
and
ratios,
depending
on
the
the
business
size
of
the
business
and
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
to
nia's
point
they're.
Just
so
many
variables
to
come
to
one
specific
number
would
be
very
difficult.
M
The
pro
the
product,
as
I
think
steve
pointed
out
earlier,
does
not
require
a
tremendous
amount
of
labor,
and
so
it's
as
opposed
to
food,
where
food
is
perishable.
There's
a
lot
of
labor
involved
it
the
liquor
sales
balance
that
and
it
allows
for
business
owners
to
grow
their
wealth,
and
I
think
that
that's
incredibly
important
to
think
about.
M
I
have
both
fast
casuals
and
full-service
restaurants.
The
fast
casuals
are
great.
We
employ
a
lot
of
people,
there's
a
lot
of
dollars
that
go
through
the
door,
but
it's
not
the
same
percentage
on
the
square
footage
of
the
restaurant.
You
know
just
it's
really
hard
to
get
a
fast
casual
and
we
have
liquor
licenses
and
it's
just
people
don't
think
about
buying
liquor
at
fast
casual
restaurants,
so
you're
dependent
pretty
much
exclusively
on
the
sale
of
food.
A
E
Yeah,
all
my
questions
are
answered
and
we'd
love
to
continue.
You
know
this
conversation
with
the
panel
on
you
know,
making
sure
that
when
there
are
when
there
are
commercial
rebates
or
any
assistance
provided
to
these
restaurants,
that
we're
doing
it
in
a
real
way
and
that
it's
helping
these
restaurant
business
owners
get
off
on
the
rights
on
the
right
start.
So
thank
you
for
your
testimony
and
thank
you
for
your
advocacy.
A
B
Yes,
really
briefly,
I
just
wanted
to
uplift
something
that
jody
mentioned
and
I'm
so
glad
that
she
also
talked
about
the
employees,
and
this
is
also
really
thinking
about.
You
know
the
chair,
workforce
development
and
economic
empowerment
and
when
our
small
businesses
are
doing
well,
so
are
the
employees
and
that
helps
everyone.
So
I
think
again,
I
just
want
to
underscore
the
importance
of
not
only
giving
folks
the
opportunity
to
have
access
but
being
able
to
set
them
up
for
long-term.
B
C
Thank
you
councillor
arroyo.
I
want
to
thank
all
the
advocates.
I
think
it
was
an
incredible
amount
of
information
that
was
shared
with
all
of
us
today
nia.
I
think
the
way
that
you
broke
it
down
made.
It
just
seem
you
just
like
it
was
very
clear
on
how
hard
it
is
for
our
businesses
to
to
get
started,
especially
ones
that
lack
capital
in
and
especially
in
our
black
and
brown
neighborhood.
C
So
appreciative
of
that
nick,
I
appreciate
your
report
and
I
thought
it
was
really
helpful
and
and
very
timely
and
a
question
that
I
had.
I
guess
I
guess
this
is
more
for
steve,
so
hello,
steve,
we
I
believe
we
met
yesterday
evening,
so
this
is
also
timely,
you're.
You
know,
you
pointed
out
the
issues
that
you
have
with
section
two,
but
also
acknowledge.
C
The
fact
that
you
know
accessing
these
liquor
licenses
is
is
really
hard
without
you
know,
every
time
having
to
petition
for
more
and
also
the
acknowledgement
that
the
ink
report
that
it's
due
for
just
a
report
saying
the
barriers
you
know
how
long
it
takes.
Restaurants,
like
ania,
was
saying
to
all
the
things
that
they
have
to
do
to
get
off
the
ground.
So
I
see
this
automation
as
a
really
innovative
way
of
helping
western.
C
Like
you
know,
our
goal
should
be:
how
do
we
simplify
processes
for
businesses
and
restaurants?
How
do
we
make
life
easier
for
all
of
you?
Well,
not
sure
changing
the
you
know
the
regulatory
work
that
we
have
to
do
as
a
city,
so
short
of
that
automation
process
that
we're
trying
to
achieve
in
section
two:
do
you
have
an
alternative
that
would
make
it
easier
for
businesses
to
acquire
these
licenses
that
that's
you
know
in
a
way
that
doesn't
require
this
overwhelming
bureaucratic
process.
K
So
I'm
happy
to
weigh
in
on
both
sections,
but
that
I
I
think
it's
it's
two
separate
issues
and,
and
they
kind
of
been
blurred
in
the
conversation.
So
just
in
terms
of
and
and
and
I
think
the
report
talks
about,
you
know
some
of
the
ideas
that
could
be
done
is
you
know,
could
there
be
a
combination
of
permits
that
get
issued
from
the
building
department
because
the
building
department
and
the
fire
department
permanently
issued
at
the
same
time?
You
know
you're
always
waiting
for
the
different
inspector
for
different
agencies.
K
K
Could
there
be
a
one-stop
portal
and
I
do
want
to
say
the
city
does
a
great
job
of
laying
out
the
process,
but
it's
a
long
process
and-
and
it
gives
you
the
information
of
how
you're
supposed
to
get
into
the
maze
it
doesn't
really
help
you
in
the
maze,
and
so
is
there
a
way
that
you
could
have
an
automated
checklist
that
says,
yes,
you
got
the
building
permit.
Yes,
you
did
this.
K
Okay,
your
one
hold
up
is
is
here-
and
this
is
why,
and
that's
where
I
think
technology
would
work,
is
that
an
a
business
owner
could
go
into
that
account
and
almost
see
their
progress
through
the
13
steps
that
are
outlined
in
this
guide
as
just
one
further
step
of
information
available.
I
think
I
think
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
come
in
are,
oh,
I
think
I'm
waiting
on
this
permit.
I
might
be
waiting
on
this.
K
Permit,
I'm
not
sure-
and
you
know
it's
just-
that-
that
slower
process
to
do
it
and
then
in
the
last
question
that
council
warah
had
said
that
nia
answered
perfectly
is
the
other
cost
that
you
know.
There's
control
quote
unquote
controllable
costs
from
the
russia
return
in
terms
of
what
they're
willing
to
spend
to
build.
What
they're
willing
to
do
that.
But
then
there's
also
cost
that
they
put
on
the
operator
from
the
municipality,
whether
it's
architectural
designs
and
you
go
to
the
community
meeting
and
the
attendee
at
the
community
meeting
says.
K
Well,
I
don't
like
that
tree
or
I
don't
like
that
parking
space,
and
then
you
have
to
go
back
to
the
community
meeting
again
with
another
architectural
rendering
of
the
same
process,
and
so
that's
where
those
costs
also
increase
and
those
are
kind
of
uncontrollable
costs,
because
the
municipality
is
putting
those
costs
on
the
operator
and
that's
not
boston.
That's
that's
all
351
cities
in
town,
so
there's
a
lot
of
different
things.
K
We
could
do
in
terms
of
how
an
operator
has
to
get
open,
but
those
costs
are
definitely
happening,
but
just
streamlining
what
an
operator
has
to
do
to
get
all
those
permits
and
and
basically
having
someone
hold
their
hand,
whether
it's
an
ai
robot
holding
their
hand
or
it's
a
a
city
hall
staffer.
Whenever
an
operator
calls
me
and
says,
hey
I'm
having
problems
at
10,
10
mass
ave,
I
say,
call
your
city
counselor.
C
I
appreciate
that
and
I
think
I
I
appreciate
that
as
a
response
to
the
overall
issues,
but
because
you
mentioned
section
two,
I
wanted
you
to
speak
specifically
to
section
two
and
ideas
you
had
to
make
that
process
of
acquiring
liquor
licenses
a
lot
easier
and
to
automate
it
for
our
businesses.
That's
where
sort
of
you
express
this
agreement,
so
we'd
like
to
know
if
you
had
any
alternative
suggestions
there.
K
So
the
question
comes
down
to
what
does
the
city
want
to
do?
Does
the
city
want
to
unwind
itself
from
a
quota
process?
Does
the
city
want
to
continue
to
operate
within
a
quota,
and
I
think
whatever
the
want
is
there's
different
solutions
in
there,
so
it
all
comes
down
to
if
you
were
going
to
build
a
perfect
licensing
system
right
now?
What
would
it
look
like
now
we're
trying
to
go?
You
know,
unwind.
As
I
said,
seven
years
of
licensing,
listen,
there's
a
number
of
different
ideas
that
could
do
it.
K
K
I'm
just
saying
the
issues
in
section
two
are
very,
very
complicated
and
require
a
number
of
conversations,
and
I
don't
think
I
could
have
for
one
solution
to
solve
that
section
right
now.
I
think
we
would
need
a
working
group
on
it
to
address
those
different
issues.
The
biggest
concern
we
have
from
from
operators
is
the
replaced
pledgeable
asset
that
goes
with
securing
loans.
K
Is
that
a
lot
of
the
growth
restaurant
growth
in
the
city
of
boston
has
come
from
pledging
an
existing
license
as
an
asset
to
go
out
and
get
a
loan
to
build
another
restaurant
and,
if
all
of
a
sudden,
that
inherent
value
goes
away
from
that
license,
that
asset
needs
to
be
replaced,
and
so
now
the
operator
either
has
to
replace
that
asset
with
their
home
or
with
some
other.
You
know
guarantee
to
get
that
loan,
and
so
that's
that's.
K
A
O
When
we
talk
about
diversity,
equity
and
accessibility,
I
love
the
idea
of
a
working
group.
I
agree
with
steve
there's
some
there's.
Some
policy
work
to
be
done
to
nail
this
down
and
to
his
last
point
regarding
the
folks
who
have
who
have
asked
who
have
their
equity.
I
guess
tied
up
in
these
transferable
liquor
licenses.
I
think
it's
really
clear
that
no
one
is
interested
in
this
at
this
stage
in
in
in
removing
any
of
the
value
from
that.
O
So
these
a
lot
of
these
folks
have
spent
six
figures
in
the
secondary
market
on
these
transferable
licenses.
Some
of
them
have
pledged
them
to
banks,
as
steve
mentioned.
Some
of
them
see
the
future
sale
of
these
licenses
as
part
of
an
exit
scenario
from
the
restaurant
industry
altogether
and
so
to
them.
I
think-
and
I
think
this
is
essential
in
whatever
form
this
policy
takes,
that
we
should
make
it
really
clear
that
number
one,
no
one
is
taking
these
restricted
licenses.
O
K
F
P
P
I
do
understand
how
restaurants
can
be
economic
engines,
and
I
made
most
of
my
money
as
a
lot
of
money
as
a
21
year
old,
serving
drinks
during
the
summer.
So
as
the
checks
went
up,
so
did
my
tips,
but
it
you
know
it
is
it
is.
They
are
backbones
of
our
neighborhood.
So
overall
I
do
believe
in
the
power
of
restaurants
to
promote
you,
know
the
vibrancy
of
a
specific
neighborhood
and
create
wealth
in
this
city
and
nick.
P
I
appreciate
your
comments
when
you
said
it's
a
concentration
of
wealth
and
privilege,
and
so
that
that
gets
to
my
concern-
and
I
don't
know
the
solutions,
but
I'm
worried
that
if
and
when
these
licenses
do
become
available,
how
do
we
make
sure
that
those
who
don't
have
access
to
capital
and
therefore
access
to
lawyers
and
therefore
access
in
general?
You
know,
aren't
missing
out
on
this
opportunity.
So
it
does
sound
like
we
need
a
working
group
and
I
still
have
a
lot
to
learn
at
this
point.
P
Q
Q
Almost
all
of
those
dollars
go
right
back
into
our
neighborhood.
So
it's
so
important
to
simplify
this
process
and
make
sure
that
it's
equitable
across
the
city.
So
I'm
here
to
listen
always
to
learn,
but
also
to
support
and
lend
a
hand.
However,
I
can
help
make
whatever
burdensome
there
is
in
the
way
now
to
support
and
help
once
and
also
there's.
I
know
people
who
get
liquor
licenses
and
then
they
need
the
support
after
they
get
it
to
make
sure
that
the
business
now
that
they
have
the
license.
Q
R
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Hopefully
you
can
hear
me
clearly
just
about
to
run
into
it
you're
clear,
thank
you,
and
I
appreciate
all
the
comments
today
and
I
understand
obviously
the
issue.
Having
had
family
that
have
been
sort
of
in
the
in
the
bar
and
tavern
business.
I
also
understand
and
appreciate
the
role
that
you
know
the
the
small
businesses,
the
restaurants,
the
cafes
that
they
play
in
our
communities,
hiring
local
folks,
their
amenities
for
our
neighborhoods,
which
is
great.
R
I
also
just
I
wanna
caution
a
little
bit
on
sort
of
the
broad
strokes
of
if
you
and
nick
corn-
and
I
appreciate
your
comments
in
terms
of
just
laying
out
the
different
percentages
I
would
like,
maybe
if
a
little
just
a
deeper
dive.
If
you
back
out
the
hotels,
if
you
back
out
the
faneuil
hall
and
you
back
out,
you
know
the
north
end
and
in
and
around
sort
of
fenway
parking
lands
down,
and
then
we
sort
of
do
a
deeper
dive
into
the
neighborhoods.
R
I'd
like
to
see
what
those
numbers
reflect
and
also
you
know
in
instances
where
folks
have
worked
really
hard
I'll
give
you
my
uncle.
As
an
example
worked
two
jobs
had
to
refinance
his
home
to
get
a
license
and
he
worked
extremely
hard
seven
days
a
week
to
maintain
his
business
and
that's
completely
different
than
someone
sort
of
coming
in
from
new
york.
R
Stroking
the
check
buying
a
license,
a
transferable
license,
let's
say
450
500
grand
you
know
to
put
in
you
know
a
fancy,
restaurant
downtown
or
a
hotel,
a
hotel
bar.
So
I
think
we
need
to
distinguish
that
as
well
and
and
and
not
sort
of
broadbrush,
some
of
those
smaller.
You
know
hard-working
local
establishments
that
more
often
than
not
they're
on
the
back
of
the
t-shirts
down
at
the
little
league
in
the
soccer
field
and
they're,
the
first
ones
to
contribute
locally
to
different
causes
in
our
neighborhoods.
R
Clearly
we
have
food
deserts
and
we
need
to
address
that,
and
I
just
also
it's
interesting
and
timely
that
we're
having
this
hearing
today
when,
just
yesterday
we
talked
about
how
the
taxi
medallions
were
decimated,
partly
two
two
parts.
One
was
obviously
the
ride,
shares
of
the
uber
and
lyfts
putting
sort
of
a
having
having
a
competitive
advantage,
I
think,
but
to
the
onerous
regulations
of
our
hackney
division,
the
policies
that
went
with
that-
and
so
I
just
I
just
want
to
as
we're
moving
forward
with
this.
R
You
know
in
and
around
say
the
downtown
area
or
even
in
and
around
the
south
boston
waterfront,
completely
different
profile.
If
you
will,
from
you
know
the
guy
that
owns
the
corp
or
you
know
the
guy
that
owns,
you
know
one
of
one
of
my
favorite
spots
over
in
over
in
east
boston.
It's
like
those
are
the
you
know.
Those
are
those
sort
of
small
local
businesses.
R
We
need
to
continue
to
support
them
and
in
many
instances,
they've
really
worked
hard
to
to
get
their
no
their
trans,
their
transferable
license.
So
by
flooding
the
market
we
potentially
could
decimate
the
existing
transferable
mark,
and
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
see
that
there
are
a
lot
of
good
people
that
have
worked
really
hard
they're
in
all
of
our
neighborhoods,
and
so
how
can
we
do
it
judiciously?
R
I
think
that
we
also
need
to
be
realistic
about
how
many
licenses
we
will
get
when
we
go
up
to
to
beacon
hill
and
ask
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
managing
people's
expectations.
So
again,
I
appreciate
everyone's
comments
and
I
just
wanted
to
add-
I
guess
my
voice
to
that
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
whatever
we
do
that
we're
not
sort
of,
I
guess,
decimating
the
value
of
existing
transferable,
particularly
as
it
pertains
to
those
hard-working
individuals
and
families
that
we
all
know
throughout
our
neighborhoods.
R
We
clearly
need
to
grow
those
opportunities
in
in
throughout
our
city
and
particularly
in
areas
where
you
know,
we've
turned
them
food
deserts,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
do
what
just
happened
to
the
taxi
medallion
industry,
where
a
lot
of
good
decent,
hard-working
people
had
those
medallions
those
licenses
completely
devalued.
Many
of
them
have
lost,
who
knows
their
homes
and
their
livelihood
as
a
result
of
it.
So
just
be
careful.
Just
be
judicious
recognize
the
areas
where
we
need
to
make
improvements.
R
Where
can
we
improve
the
policy,
but
I
don't
think
it
would
be
prudent
to
sort
of
flood
the
market
at
the
expense
of
you
know:
good,
decent,
hard-working
city
residents
that
have
great
establishments
but
target
areas
where
we
could
uplift
and
create
more
economic
opportunity
for
people,
create
more
opportunities
for
people
to
open
up
shops
and
cafes,
eliminate
some
of
the
the
onerous
regulatory
piece
of
it
and
or
have
it
be
a
one
stop
shop
down
over
a
1010
massab.
All
of
that
I
completely
understand.
R
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
as
we're
working
and
trying
to
revitalize
the
taxi
industry
that
we
don't
sort
of
now
have
unintended
consequences,
say
a
while
trying
to
uplift
and
help
small
local
business
owners
than
to
get
licenses
at
the
hands
of
folks.
That
you
know
want
to
add
value
to
our
city
and
to
our
neighborhood.
So
so
a
little
bit
of
a
question
mr
chair,
and
a
little
bit
of
an
opine.
R
I
had
asked
if
nick
corn
would
be
kind
enough
if
he
could.
Maybe
he
did
an
evaluation
in
terms
of
licenses
across
the
city
where
they
were
where
they
weren't,
and
I
would
really
like
to
see
his
data.
I
would
like
to
see
if
he
would
be
kind
enough
to
if
he
would
back
out
sort
of
the
the
hotels
back
out
say
the
faneuil
hall,
the
the
north
end
and
around
fenway
park.
R
I
would
even
maybe
even
argue
that
the
boston
garden
td
bank
I
mean
so
if
we
could
sort
of
lift
those
out
pull
those
out
just
I
want.
I
would
love
to
see
that
analysis.
His
data
minus
those
sort
of
four
areas
where
there's
a
heavy
concentration
there's
a
heavy
saturation
of
liquor
licenses,
basically
related
to
obviously
td
bank
garden
fenway
park,
faneuil
hall.
Of
course,.
O
We
can
certainly
do
that
work.
I
do
think
there's
like
a
larger
equity
conversation.
Obviously
we
are
the
result
of
a
long
history
of
the
city,
but
destinations
and
neighborhoods
are
part
of
what
brings
people
to
neighborhoods
and
what
brings
licenses,
I
will
say
like
as
a
little
bit
of
a
dog
like
I'm
happy
to
do
that
work
and
we
are
in
the
process
of
getting
more
granular
with
this
data.
O
But
with
that
being
said,
I
will
say
we
have
a
hard
limit
of
licenses
in
the
city
right
and
so
essentially
it's
a
zero-sum
game.
I
totally
agree-
and
I
think
I
mentioned
a
statement
earlier-
we're
not
trying
to
flood
the
market,
we're
not
trying
to
no
one
is
proposing
addressing
or
like
removing
value
from
transferable
licenses,
and
if
you
look
at
a
report,
there's
a
number
of
different
arguments
against
the
fact
that
restricted
licenses
quote
unquote,
float
the
market
and
deplete
or
depreciate
that
value,
but
because
we
have
a
zero-sum
game.
O
O
That
is
replaced
because
we
are
in
a
zero-sum
game
here,
so
that
license
had
to
come
from
somewhere
and
certainly
some
came
from
the
airport
and
some
came
from
other
businesses,
but
but
many
of
them
came
from
our
neighborhoods,
and
so
this
is
an
undeniable
pattern
over
time
and
that
research
is
ongoing
as
well.
For
us.
R
And
that's,
and
it's
a
great
point
nick
and
to
through
the
chair,
one
caveat
we
may
want
to
put
on
this
ordinance-
is
that
you
cannot
transfer
a
license
from
one
neighborhood
to
the
next.
That
would
prohibit
the
hotel
year
from
coming
in
and
grabbing
the
the
bar
and
grill
off
of
dorchester
avenue,
or
you
know,
main
street
charlestown
or
the
center
street
jp.
R
That
might
actually
help.
Because
that's
exactly
what
happens,
it's
dub
double
edge,
show
it
to
the
owner
of
those
establishments.
It's
their.
That's
that's
their
opportunity
for
a
day's
pay.
Their
ship
comes
in
and
that's
their
retirement,
but
then
what
we
do
see
is
we
see
licenses
that
have
been
have
been
granted
to
neighborhoods
getting
pulled
out
of
those
neighborhoods
and
then
to
your
point
nick.
You
know
that
store
that
shop
closes
down.
Only
to
see
that
patent
repeat
so
I
I
would
be
inclined
to
sort
of
be
supportive
of
something
like
that.
R
Where
or
maybe
we
have
a
completely
different
category
of
licenses
for
four
hotels
where
they
can't
poach.
If
you
will
from
our
neighborhoods,
you
know
pick
one
you
know
just
and
speaking
from
my
neighbor,
we
feel
like
there's
an
over
saturation
council
president
flynn
and
I
as
well
as
our
local
electeds,
like
we're
kind
of
sort
of
like
a
licensed
out.
You
know
in
in
wards
six
and
seven,
and
ideally
we
definitely
would
love
to
see
some
of
those
license
transfer
out
to
other
neighborhoods
to
provide
opportunities.
R
But
your
point
is
well
taken.
People
are
paying.
You
know,
big
capital,
investments
and
partnerships
are
coming
in
buying
licenses
at
500
000,
for
you
know
a
hotel
or
sort
of
a
fancy,
steakhouse
downtown
in
many
instances,
they're
buying
that
license
on
the
open
market,
taking
it
out
of
a
neighborhood
only
for
that
license
to
not
return
to
that
neighborhood.
So
anything
that
we
could
work
on
that
front.
I
would
be
supportive
of
as
well.
A
Thank
you,
council
flaherty,
and
I
am
now
going
to
just
speak
really
on
this.
I'm
one
of
the
original
co-sponsors
on
one
of
these,
and
what
I
would
just
say
is
you
know
I
went
to
law
school
in
chicago
chicago
has
a
very
different
way
of
how
they
handle
liquor
licenses.
In
my
opinion,
it's
a
better
way
of
handling
liquor
licenses
and
what
they've
essentially
done
there
is
they
allow
their
aldermen
to
give
out
as
many
or
as
few
licenses
as
they
want.
A
They
actually
have
a
bring
your
own
beer
culture
there.
So
that
actually
means
something
byob,
but
they
also
have
several
stages
of
their
like
licenses,
but
the
liquor
licenses
there
are
not
cost
prohibitive
in
the
way
that
they
are
here
and
what
that
allows
for
is
for
talent
to
win
out.
And
so,
when
you
go
to
a
city
like
chicago
largely,
you
would
not
look
at
their
top
five
or
ten
restaurants
and
see
chains.
A
You
would
see
local
establishments,
because
what
is
pushing
these
things
to
success
is
no
longer
whether
or
not
you
have
the
ability
to
sell
alcohol
because
that's
sort
of
been
leveled.
It's
whether
or
not
you
have
good
food
good
service,
if
you
are
creating
a
a
good
restaurant,
essentially,
and
so
chicago
is
a
city
that,
when
I
was
there
locals,
would
talk
with
pride
about
putting
chains
out
of
business.
A
I
think
one
of
the
issues
here
with
boston
and
I'm
just
going
to
name
it
is
that
a
lot
of
these
liquor
licenses
have
been
inherited
from
an
era
in
which
black
and
latino
and
people
of
color
were
not
able
to
access
this
market,
and
so
with
these
were
significant
investments
for
those
individuals
at
that
time,
and
they
have
significant
money
leveraged
into
the
securing
of
sort
of
not
liquidating
similar
to
the
taxi
cabin
dalians
these
these
liquor
licenses.
The
issue
is
frankly
the
reason
why
those
numbers
look.
A
A
I
believe
matapan
at
this
point
either
has
one
liquor
license
in
my
section
of
it,
or
none
for
for
that
for
dining
for
liquor
on
premises
and
what
that
actually
does
is
it
has
all
these
butterfly
effects
into
food
health
in
neighborhoods?
So
we've
seen
things
like
because
you
don't
have
liquor
licenses,
you
don't
have
sit
downs.
Everything
has
to
be
takeout
geared
and
take
out
geared.
A
Food
is
not
the
same
quality
from
a
health
standpoint
in
some
cases
as
sit-down
restaurants,
and
so
when
they
did
the
boston
public
health
commission's
study
on
the
impact
of
race
on
health.
One
of
the
things
that
I
found
very
interesting
was
the
butterfly
effect
of
how
liquor
licenses
and
what
that
means
for
restaurant
establishments
actually
impacts
the
health
in
those
communities,
and
so
these
there's
all
these
sort
of
butterfly
effects
to
these
kinds
of
changes
where
we're
really
improving
things.
A
But
one
thing
I
want
to
say,
as
a
millennial
on
this
council
is
that
more
restaurants,
more
establishments
are
good.
I
actually
have
no
issue
with
expanding
these.
I
frankly
think
that
the
market
should
be
able
to
bear
out
not
based
on
whether
or
not
we're
keeping
the
valuation
of
somebody's
liquor
license
understand
the
practical
reasons
for
why
we
do
that.
A
But
whether
or
not
we
have
the
market
to
sustain
restaurants
period
and
I
think,
when
we're
limiting
the
amount
of
restaurants
and
the
amount
of
opportunity
to
create
them
and
have
successful
restaurants
on
the
basis
of
keeping
the
evaluation
of
somebody's
liquor
license
strong
because
they
purchased
it.
In
1950
or
1965,
or
1975,
or
85
or
95,
I
think
what
ends
up
happening.
Is
we
end
up
with
these
chains
in
these
hotels
that
dominate
our
market?
A
A
I
think
it's,
it's
kind
of
wild
to
me
that
we
have
to
go
to
the
state
to
figure
out
whether
or
not
we
get
liquor
licenses
for
the
city
of
boston
and
so
that
power
dynamic,
I'd
love
to
see
how
we
get
to
that.
I
think
that's
what
everybody
has
loved
to
see,
but
for
me
I
think
the
question
that
I
have
for
the
panel
and
whoever
would
like
to
answer
it
is
how
do
we
balance
in
a
way
that
is
actually
beneficial
for
all
remedying?
A
What
are
generational
wrongs
for
getting
folks
into
liquor
licenses
and
have
impacted
entire
communities
and
neighborhoods,
while
also
understanding
that
there
are
people
who
have
this
liquor
license?
That
is
a
large
part
of
the
value
of
their
corporation
or
their
organization
and
trying
to
balance
that
in
a
fair
and
inequitable
way,
and
so
you
know
I'm
happy
to
give
that
to
the
floor.
It's
a
big
question,
but
it's
it's
really.
What
the
at
the
point
of
contention
for
this
is
is
exactly
that
we
want
to
add
more
licenses.
A
The
argument
against
adding
more
licenses
is
going
to
be
well.
That
lowers
the
value
of
these,
and
so
how
do
we
get
to
a
place
where
we
can
add
more
licenses
responsibly
to
deal
with?
What
our
generational
arms
that
I
think
have
to
be
addressed
and,
frankly,
are
for
the
benefit
of
the
city
to
have
more
liquor
licenses?
In
my
opinion-
and
so
you
know
just
in
terms
of
the
thought
process
for
that,
what
are
the
pathways?
We
think
we
can
do
that
and
what
are
the?
A
What
are
the
ways
in
which
we
can
try
to
to
make
that
work?
For
the
city,
I
don't
know
if
anybody
wants
to
to
answer
that
and
then
I'll
go
to
a
second
round
of
of
questions
or
statements
from
from
counselors.
So
I
see
counselor
claudio
see
coletta
counselor
coletta
have
their
hands
raised
as
well,
but
does
anybody
want
to
try
and
take
a
stab
at
that.
R
Yeah
yeah,
mr
chair,
I
was
just
gonna
say
you
made.
You
raised
a
great
point
in
terms
of
so
to
have
a
piece
of,
I
guess,
a
level
playing
field
and
to
not
maybe
get
as
much
opposition
from
beacon
hill
as
we
would
necessarily
get.
The
idea
probably
would
be
just
as
what
we're
looking
at
doing,
maybe
with
the
taxi
downs
in
the
opera
funds.
Maybe
we
try
to
identify
a
way
to
buy
back
fairly,
buy
back
the
existing
transferable
licenses
and
then
turn
it
into
a
non-transferable
world.
R
So
that
may
be
the
way
to
kind
of
I
guess
level
the
playing
field,
particularly
as
it
pertains
to
the
existing
folks
who
throw
no
fault
of
their
own
or
have
worked
hard
and
and
they've
leveraged
everything
to
to
hold
on
to
the
license
and,
at
the
same
token,
we
get
out
of
that
whole
transferable
business.
If
you
will
so,
you
raised
an
interesting
point
and
I
think
it's
worth
pushing
and
exploring.
I
don't
know
what
the
dollar
amount
would
be
on
that.
R
But
if
there's
ever
a
time
where
we're
trying
to
change
policies-
and
we
have
opera
funds
available,
we're
looking
to
do
the
same
with
taxi
medallion
owners,
maybe
we
do
the
same
with
transferable
license
owners
and
just
get
rid
of
the
transferable
portion
of
it
and
turn
them
all
into
non-transferable
level.
The.
A
Point
I
so
this
is
something
I
was
thinking
about
proposing
at
some
point
a
couple
I
would
want
to
say
in
2021
when
we
knew
we
were
getting
our
money.
Is
you
know?
The
system
that
we
currently
have
for
liquor
licenses
is
actually
very
quick.
It's
very
old
and
the
reason
that
it's
not
changing
is
because
the
state
enjoys
the
power
they
have
over
the
liquor
license
process,
but
also
because
many
people,
many
families,
are
invested.
A
They've
invested
generations
of
their
own
wealth
into
these.
These
liquor
licenses,
and
so
there's
a
fairness
question
here
about.
Do
you
can't
decimate
that
without
some
kind
of
compensation?
But
what?
If
the
city
was
able
to
purchase
out
sort
of
the
available
liquor
licenses
that
we
have
through
our
birth
through
some
sort
of
funding
process
or
some
way
of
doing
that
to
then
completely
reinvent
our
liquor
license
process
in
a
way
that
is,
it
should
be
current.
I
mean
we
have
a
liquor
license
process
that
I,
I
think,
dates
decades
to
be
kind
right.
A
So,
like
that's
not
the
this
was
not
like
an
app
driven
world
when
they
were
coming
up
with
this
stuff
right.
Like
the
so
these
kinds
of
ideas,
I
think
you
have
to
just
eliminate
what
the
current
construct
is,
so
that
we
can
get
to
a
good
construct
and
one
of
the
easiest
ways
that
I
thought
we
could
do
that
is
trying
to
just
buy
out
all
of
these
licenses
own
them
as
the
city
of
boston,
is
create
a
brand
new
process.
When
you
do
that,
I
got
told
when
I
I
poked
around
on
that.
A
I
think
the
I
was
told
that
it
might
cost
upwards
of
like
a
hundred
million
dollars
or
something
like
that.
I
don't
know
how
accurate
that
is
or
isn't
to
do
that,
but
we
got
significant
federal
arpa
money.
Restaurants
certainly
were
coped
with
19
impacted
and
I
think,
there's
a
question
about
how
we
we
can
move
forward
as
a
city
to
alleviate.
A
Essentially,
what
is
the
problem
here
is
that
people
have
paid
a
lot
of
money
for
these,
and
so
you
have
to
protect
that
investment,
and
so,
if
you
take
that
off
the
table
now
we
can
do
something
different,
and
so
you
know
I
don't
know
what
the
road
route
is
there.
I
think
it's
important
enough
to
consider.
What
could
we
do?
A
Is
it
a
good
investment
for
the
city
of
boston
personally
to
take
this
on,
but
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
that
I'm
also
weighing
out
there
and
considering
that
you've
been
dealing
with
the
liquor
license
problem
longer
than
I
have
counselor
flaherty.
I
think
it's
interesting
that
you
also
sort
of
think
that
might
be
worth
exploring
councillor
coletta
and
then
I
see
mr
corn,
unless
councillor
coletti
would
like
to
let
nick
corn
go
first.
P
Councillor
flaherty
actually
beat
me
to
it,
because
I
was
gonna
suggest
this.
This
arpa
money
going
directly
into
protecting
these
these
licenses,
the
investment
and
the
equity.
As
I
mentioned
yesterday
on
the
floor,
when
the
hackney
proposal
was
up,
we
did
we,
when
I
was
chief
of
staff
for
then
councilor
edwards
at
the
time,
had
proposed
that
the
city
buy
back
these
licenses
and
chair
joyce
firmly
told
us
that
we
don't
have
the
money
to
do
that.
P
When
is
the
last
time
that
the
city
of
boston
has
passed
something
in
the
state
house,
because
it
got
brought
up
when
then
counselor
now,
congresswoman
ianna
presley
had
introduced
it
in
2018
and
then
it
was
introduced
again
when
john
barros
was
our
economic
chief.
And
so
what
is
the
track
record?
I
honestly
don't
know-
and
this
is
a
question
to
the
panel.
But
what
is
the
track
record
of
these
horrible
petitions
up
at
the
state
house?
And
what
is
our
strategy
moving
forward
to
get
something
like
this
passed.
K
I'm
happy
to
out
for
some
comment
on
that,
just
because
I've
been
in
the
role
for
for
up
to
12
years,
so
for
the
past
12
years,
so
I've
been
a
part
of
all
the
different
legislative
attempts
that
have
gone
through
back
to
the
2014.
I
guess
2013
successful
navigation
of
then
council
presley
of
75
licenses
and
then
a
couple
of
different
efforts
that
are
before,
and
I
kind
of
highlighted
this
at
the
beginning
of
my
testimony
is
every
time
we've
tried
to
do
some
dedicated
licenses.
K
Some
other
issues
get
piled
on
in
there.
So
going
back
to
the
last
working
group
of
the
city,
council
and
most
of
the
city
councils
in
attendance
were
not
part
of
that
process.
It
was
one
of
those
things
where
every
city
council
in
the
room
said
well.
I
need
50
licenses,
I
need
50
licenses,
I
need
50
licenses
and
so
what
started
off
as
a
conversation
of
of
bringing
licenses
to
a
dedicated
area,
I
think
actually
increased
150
licenses
in
15
minutes.
K
We
were
sitting
there
and
every
end
you
know,
and
I
won't
single
out
cities.
I
won't
single
out
neighborhoods,
but
it
was
one
of
those
processes
where
every
single
council
in
the
room
saw
that
a
train
was
moving
and
that
more
licenses
needed
to
be
added
to
it
and
the
bill
kind
of
got.
I
think-
and
I
don't
work
on
beacon
hill,
but
I
kind
of
think
that
the
bill
just
got
too
heavy
for
itself.
Another
time
there
was
initiative
to
try
to
give
developers
licenses.
K
So
if
a
developer
was
going
to
come
into
the
city,
they
would
actually
get
10
or
15
licenses
themselves.
That
was
a
different
section
and-
and
that
was
my
initial
point-
is
like
let's
just
be
careful
of
the
other
sections
that
get
added
onto
this
bill,
because
it
does
become
a
harder
process
and
does
impact
it.
So
that's
probably
beacon
hills
reaction
is
when
there's
seven
different
problems
in
one
piece
of
legislation
to
try
to
address
it.
K
I
think
if
you
keep
it
clean
and
just
have
dedicated
non-transferable
licenses
in
the
neighborhoods
that
need
them.
I
think
that's
the
most
important
part
of
what
we're
doing
today,
but
this
last
part
of
this
conversation
is
everything
I
was
hoping
to
bring
up
when
I
raised
concerns
with
section
two.
So
that's
kind
of
you
know
what
I
would
weigh
in
on
on
the
different
processes
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
O
Your
hand,
no
I'm
ready,
I'm
ready
to
address
a
few
points,
so
counselor
arroyo
asked
about
said.
Maybe
this
is
a
decade,
the
state's
back
to
1933
and
1934
the
two
months
following
the
end
of
the
repeal
of
prohibition,
so
essentially
every
license
we
have
today
has
its
history
in
a
time
when
boston
was
a
very
different
city.
O
With
regards
to
the
buybacks,
I
want
to
reiterate
that
this
is
an
equity
problem
right
so
buying
back
licenses,
as
counselor
royal
mentioned,
we're
living
with
a
legacy
of
racist
policies
from
federal
state
and
city
levels
that
have
lasted
for
decades,
and
so
there
is
a
consideration
of
paying
directly
to
operators
for
a
city
state
controlled
resource
that
has
been
issued
inequitably
with
all.
That
being
said,
I
think,
just
to
reiterate.
I
think
this
current
legislation,
as
it's
written,
doesn't
include
the
sort
of
total
break
of
this
entire
system
and
it's
rebuilding.
O
So
I
do
think
that,
with
what's
currently
being
considered,
are
additional
restricted,
liquor
licenses
for
neighborhoods
that
desperately
need
them,
and
the
research
shows
that
we
first
off
that
legislation
does
not
include
additional
transferable
licenses.
It
doesn't.
It
will
not
devalue
existing
transferable
licenses
but
more
restricted
licenses
in
the
neighborhoods
that
desperately
need.
It
will
impact
those
neighborhoods
and
then
lastly,
I'll
say,
like
I
agree
with
steve.
O
The
legislation
gets
a
million
things
kind
of
tacked
on
and
these
have
grown
and
ballooned,
and
so,
with
that
in
mind,
I
do
think
keeping
it
narrow
and
keeping
it
focused
with
the
plan
of
and
again,
if
you
read
my
report
essentially
getting
this
through
and
then
kind
of
the
second
phase
is
gathering
better
data
so
that
we
can
make
a
more
informed
decision
about
how
to
how
to
start
to
fix
the
system
or
make
the
system
more
equitable
through
and
through.
That
includes
addressing
the
concerns
of
transferable
license
holders.
O
But
the
current
legislation
being
considered
has
nothing
to
do
with
transferable
license
holders,
and
I
think
that's
essential
to
keep
that
focused
and
then,
lastly,
to
address
councillor
coletta.
I
know
these
weren't
questions,
but
they
were
sort
of
statements
put
out
into
the
ether
each
of
the
last
over
the
last
nine
years,
there's
been
between
nine
and
24
different
cities
and
towns,
who've
submitted
between
10
and
35
different
home
rule
petitions
for
additional
licenses
over
their
quotas.
O
Many
of
those
have
been
approved.
Some
of
those
have
been
from
boston
and
some
of
the
petitions
from
boston
have
been
approved.
Most
recently
we
had
one-
I
believe
it
was
last
year,
if
not
this
current
calendar
year
for
a
single
liquor
license
that
went
to
the
the
speedway
and
the
old
state
police
barracks.
A
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
that
is
the
end
of
the
first
round
of
questions.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
has
I'm
not
going
to
go
in
order
just
asking
people.
Are
you
done
so
if
anybody
has
any
follow-up
questions
for
our
advocate
panel,
I
wanted
to
thank
our
advocate
panel
and
our
administrative
panel
for
what
they've
done
today.
I
appreciate
all
of
you.
A
And
so
in
that
case
I
would
like
to
give
our
panelists,
if
you
have
any
closing,
if
you
can
make
it
brief,
because
we
do
have
public
sta
public
comment
coming
in,
but
if
you
have
any
closing
statement
or
closing
thoughts,
you'd
like
to
leave
us
with,
please
feel
free
to
do
so.
I
see
jody
adams.
The
floor
is
yours.
M
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
so
much.
This
is
an
amazing
conversation
and
one
that
we've
been
having
for
years.
I
remember
having
a
conversation
about
this
issue
with
mayor
menino
many
many
years
ago.
So
it's
super
exciting
anything
I
can
do
to
help.
Please
let
me
know-
and
I
right
now
have
to
say
goodbye
but
anyway,
thank
you
so
much.
A
Thank
you,
jody
adams,
any
other
statements
or
anything
like
that.
Otherwise,
you're
free
to
go
or
stay
for
community
comment,
and
I
want
to
just
thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
for
for
what
you've
done
today
in
terms
of
making
this
more
clear
for
the
public
for
the
need
of
this,
and
also
where
there
might
be
some
complications.
So
thank
you
all
of
you
for
that.
I'm
gonna
go
to
community
comment.
I'm
just
trying
to
see
who
is
currently
here.
A
For
that
I
see
we
have
rp
thompson
is
listed.
I
don't
know
if
you
are
here,
please
make
sure
that
you
have
your
name
as
you
requested,
when
you
emailed
christine
o'donnell,
to
do
public
comment,
stephanie
boudreau
bill,
banfield,
sheryl,
stratter
and
leslie
hawkins,
and
so
we
can
go
to
whoever
is
available
here
if
you
can
bring
them
in.
For
this
part,.
S
But
the
one
thing
I
want
to
emphasize
is
that,
and
I
think
that
everyone
knows
this,
but
I
know
we've
been
discussing
two
different
pieces
of
legislation
together
that
one
of
the
pieces
of
legislation
we're
discussing
today
is
the
creation
of
those
four
licenses
specifically
for
the
bowling
building
and
then
the
strand
and
then
I'll.
Let
bill
and
nia
speak
to
it,
but
that,
at
least
from
our
perspective
is
a
very
time
sensitive
issue.
S
We've
been
working
on
this
project
since
2019
and
I'll
let
bill
and
nia
speak
to
that
a
little
bit
more,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
flag
that
there
are
two
separate
pieces
of
legislation
today
that
are
not
you
know,
necessarily
dependent
on
each
other
and
with
that
I'll
give
it
back
to
you.
Counselor.
T
Thank
you
for
that.
Are
we
are
we
good
now
yep
you're,
perfect?
Thank
you,
council
persons,
it's
great
to
be
here
and
leslie.
Thank
you
and
it's
just
been
great
to
hear
all
of
the
commentary.
It
allows
us
to
really
be
more
informed
about
what's
going
on
with
the
community
and
what
the
processes
are
good
morning.
My
name
is
bill.
T
By
the
way
of
background
the
jazzer
band.
Cafe
is
a
live
performance
arts
venue
with
a
full
service
restaurant
that
my
wonderful
partners,
nia,
grace
owner
of
daryl's
corner
kitchen
bar
tyron
dorsey,
and
I
are
developing
in
collaboration
with
the
city
of
boston
and
what
we
believe
is
the
city's
premier
location
now
for
such
an
establishment-
and
that
is
of
course,
the
bruce
bowling.
Building
the
jazzer
cafe
will
be
a
200
seat
venue
offering
live
local,
national,
international
entertainment
and
a
full
culinary
program,
including
lunch
day.
T
T
I
was
in
these
neighborhoods
as
a
full
full-time
boston,
public
school
teacher
working
at
madison
park
high
school,
so
knowing
the
kind
of
of
transformation
this
is
going
to
have
for
the
area
that
was
40
years
ago
is
absolutely
is
wonderful,
but
as
a
startup
for
this
venture.
Now
we
are
not
in
the
position
to
purchase
a
license
on
the
open
market.
If
there
were
licenses
available
that
costs
you,
our
prevention,
is
at
300,
000
or
500
000
and
that's
absolutely
prohibitive.
T
We
would
like
to
urge
the
council
and
the
city
of
boston
to
urgently
authorize
the
four
proposed
licenses
for
the
bowling
building
and
to
do
so
so
do
so
separate
and,
apart
from
other
liquor,
license
proposals
that
will
be
vetted
during
as
we're
hearing
today's
hearing.
That
licensing
is
not
an
overnight
process.
T
A
A
I
believe
it's
ccc.go
at
boston.gov
and
we
will
disseminate
that
to
the
council
and
that
will
also
be
part
of
the
public
record.
I
want
to
give
the
original
sponsors
the
ability
to
give
a
closing
on
this,
so
that
would
be
counselor
louis
jen,
followed
by
councillor
warrell,
followed
by
councillor
mejia.
If
any,
closing
that
you
would
like
to
give
the
floor
is
yours.
C
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
all
the
advocates
for
being
here
and
the
testimony
that
you
gave.
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
excitement
around
what
we
can
do
to
solve
like
long-term
systemic
issues,
and
there
are
some
short-term
solutions
for
the
bowling
building
and
there
are
short-term
solutions
for
our
neighbors
neighborhoods,
where
we
need
to
really
think
about
how
we're
driving
economic
opportunity
into
our
neighborhoods
with
these
non-transferable
restricted
licenses.
C
E
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
to
all
the
advocates
in
the
panel
and
the
administration
for
joining
us
today,
and
I
think
we
have
heard
that
there's
successes
for
con
corrective
action
in
writing
the
wrongs
of
this
inequitable
distribution
of
liquid
licenses
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
speaking
with
all
the
advocates
and
the
panelists
on.
You
know
the
details
in
working
that
out
in
the
next
working
session.
E
B
So
my
hope
is
is
that
as
we're
thinking
about
the
the
short
term
and
long
term
that
we're
thinking
about
the
big
picture
and
writing
the
wrongs,
and
so
looking
forward
to
what
comes
of
this,
but,
more
importantly,
what
we
learned
from
here
and
what
else
we
need
to
do
to
move
the
work
forward.
So
thank
you.
It's
always
so
great
to
see
so
many
beautiful
people
and
really
do
appreciate
the
time
and
energy
that
you
put
to
inform
our
thinking.
Thank
you.
A
A
It's
one,
I
hope,
to
see
us
get
this
sent
up,
so
the
next
step
in
this
would
be
a
working
session,
but
I
thank
all
of
you
for
your
commentary
and
for
your
lived
experiences
that
you've
added
to
this
to
allow
us
to
really
craft
and
refine
that
when
we
when
we
get
it
done
so,
thank
you
all
for
your
participation.
Thank
you
for
putting
all
of
this
there
and
out
in
the
public.
So
we
can
have
this
very
public
conversation
and
with
that
this
hearing
is
adjourned.