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Docket # 0293 - Hearing regarding the redevelopment of the One Charlestown Project
A
I,
look
forward
to
hearing
the
outcome
of
today's
hearing.
Please
read
this
letter
into
the
public
record,
which
I
have
done
so
I
want
to
remind
you
that
this
is
a
public
hearing.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
have
called
it
a
meeting.
This
is
what
the
difference
basically,
is
that
we're
gonna
have
testimony
and
questions,
but
also
that
this
will
be
live
streamed
on
Facebook
live.
It
will
be
rebroadcast
on
Comcast,
eight,
an
RC
n8
two
on
Verizon
and
one
964
and
online,
and
also
available
on
YouTube.
A
Please
silence
your
cell
phones
and
other
devices.
I
know
we
tend
to
be
very
electronically
connected.
I
probably
need
to
do
mine
as
well,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
that.
So
we
don't
interrupt
the
hearing.
There
will
be
an
opportunity
for
the
public
to
give
testimony
tonight
and
we
would
appreciate
it
if
you
sign
in
to
testify
if
you
are
haven't
signed
in
yet
it's
okay.
A
If
you
feel
like
testifying
at
another
point
and
want
to
sign
in
you,
can
sign
in
at
the
back
of
the
room
because
of
the
subject
of
this
hearing
and
how
impactful
it
will
be
on
solid
charlestown,
but
specifically
those
who
are
living
in
the
Boston
and
the
BHA
housing.
We're
going
to
have
the
the
BHA
residents
testify.
First,
if
they
have
any
questions
or
if
they
have
any
any
comments
and
all
ammonia's
welcome.
A
All
opinions
are
welcome
as
long
as
they're
expressed,
respectfully
and
understanding
that
we
are
our
community
and
that
we
are
going
into
a
major
transition
again
if
you're,
if
you're
unable
to
testify
or
if
you
think
of
something
late
later,
that
you
would
have
liked
to
have
said
on
the
record.
You
can
email
that
to
us
and
that
will
be
entered
into
the
record
and
please
feel
free
to
submit
in
written
comments
when
you
do
come
to
testify.
Please
state
your
name,
your
residents
of
your
Charlestown
residence.
A
What
brought
brings
you
here
if
you're
with
a
non-profit
and
we're
gonna,
ask
folks
right
now,
because
we
have
a
really
good
crowd
which
isn't
again
I'm
not
surprised.
Charlestown
is
one
best
neighborhood
and
in
Boston,
I
didn't
say
that
on
the
record,
but
but
I'm
not
surprised
by
that.
So
we're
gonna
ask
folks
to
keep
the
testimony
to
two
minutes.
Okay,
we've
just
been
joined
by
my
other
colleague
city
councilor
at-large,
our
Jana
Presley.
A
And
so
we
have
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that,
unfortunately,
due
to
a
conflict,
the
BPD,
a
the
Boston,
Planning
and
Development
Agency
could
not
be
here.
I
had
submitted
some
previous
questions
to
them
and
have
some
of
their
answers
with
me,
and
so
when
relevant.
If
the
questions
come
up
from
the
audience,
I'll
be
sure
to
pull
from
their
testimony
and
that'll
also
be
made
available
for
folks
to
look
at
later
on,
okay,
for
now
I
guess
we
will
get
started
unless
you,
okay,.
B
C
A
To
kick
off
the
hearing,
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
this
is
not
only
important
to
Charlestown
if
it's
important
to
the
entire
city
of
Boston,
as
we
are
going
to
be
redeveloping
several
different
developments
throughout
the
city,
we
could
be
a
model
not
only
for
Boston
but
New
England.
If
not,
the
nation
and
I
really
am
excited
to
see
us
come
together.
A
The
Bunker
Hill
housing
development
has
1,100,
affordable,
deeply,
affordable
housing
units
making
it
the
largest
public
housing
development
in
New,
England,
and
many
of
these
units
are
in
a
physical
condition
that
necessitates
their
replacement.
I
want
to
go
on
record
and
be
very,
very
clear.
In
no
way
is
this
a
hearing
about
whether
we
should
be
doing
this
or
not,
we
are
going
to
do
this.
This
is
not
a
question.
A
I
want
to
also
be
very
clear
that
a
lot
of
this
today's
hearing
is
not
about
what
potentially
will
be
coming
down
the
pipeline,
but
specifically
about
how
we
got
here.
Why
we're
not
currently
in
the
middle
of
development,
the
process
that
we
have
gone
through,
the
lessons
that
we
have
learned
and
what
we
as
a
community
can
look
forward
to
in
terms
of
process
in
the
future
and
we'll
have
folks
who
are
part
of
that
process
speak
directly
to
us.
A
If
we
have
time
and
if
there's
enough,
I
will
happily
open
up
to
more
direct
questions
to
the
folks
who
are
speaking
but
for
right
now,
myself,
I've
had
several
questions
submitted
in
advance,
I
will
direct
them
and
then
open
up.
Ok,
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
the
testimony,
so
we
have
tiara.
D
Good
evening
my
name
is
tiara
Murphy
and
I'm.
The
president
of
the
Charleston
resident
alliance
I
have
lived
here
for
three
years
I'm
currently
in
school,
at
the
Bunker
Hill
Community
College,
studying
an
early
childcare
education,
I
became
involved
in
my
community
because,
like
all
parents,
we
want
the
best
for
our
children.
They
deserve
the
best
that
life
has
to
offer,
including
housing,
education,
better
programs
and
mutual
respect.
D
This
is
going
to
be
a
billion-dollar
deal,
so
in
partnership
with
the
Future
developer.
We
want
to
fund
and
create
a
program
so
that
all
of
our
partnership-
partnership
with
the
Future
developer.
Sorry,
we
want
to
fun
to
create
a
program
so
that
all
of
our
children
will
be
reading
at
a
third
grade
level.
By
third
grade
closing
the
word
gap
between
wealthy
and
low
income
families,
our
children
deserve
to
live
like
any
other
child
who
does
not
receive
a
low
income
or
a
day
care
voucher.
D
D
We
want
it
to
be
funded
out
of
the
1
billion
dollars.
Who
knows?
Maybe
we
can
get
the
Bill
and
Melinda
Gates
Foundation
to
kick
in
the
CRA
is
family-friendly.
The
Alliance
is
a
group
formed
for
mutual
benefit.
We
work
together
as
a
team
with
the
BHA,
as
we
now
have
over
41,000
families
on
our
PHA
wait
lists.
Our
number
one
issue
is
a
guarantee
of
the
1,110
deeply
affordable
units.
As
current
residents
of
the
Bunker
Hill
development
will
have
the
right
to
return.
Not
all
will
choose
to.
D
It
is
vital
that
all
1110
units
be
preserved,
as
we
will
have
the
right
as
sorry
as
we
will
represent
the
current
and
future
tenants.
We
care
about
the
families
and
shelters
and
on
the
VHA
waiting
lists.
Our
vision
of
a
partnership
is
CRA
will
be
a
full
partner
with
any
developer,
which
includes
consensus,
decision-making,
meaning
everyone
is
in
agreement,
mutual
respect
between
the
CRA,
the
BHA
and
the
developer
management,
company
policies
and
procedures
done
in
partnership
like
the
developer
and
BHA
CRA
needs
professional
consultants,
resident
service
programs
chosen
by
residents
of
the
PHA.
D
There
has
been
talk
of
a
supposed
community
consensus
plan
for
one
Charlestown,
I
suspect,
as
some
folks
will
talk
about
it
tonight.
I
am
not
sure
how
consensus
was
defined,
but
there
can't
be
a
community
consensus
plan
without
the
participation
of
the
prime
stakeholders,
which
are
the
public
housing
residents
whose
homes
are
at
stake
and
whose
lives
will
be
deeply
impacted.
Our
voices,
the
voices
of
the
public
housing
community,
also
must
be
heard
valued
and
accepted
into
any
plan
before
it
is
characterized
as
a
consensus
plan.
D
D
E
Good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Zuma
gua
and
I've
been
living
in
Charlestown
for
three
years
now,
I
have
two
children's
that
were
placed
with
me
and
I
find
that
the
redevelopment
process
that
was
supposed
to
be
happening
and
hasn't
happened.
Yet
we've
been
going
to
meetings
and
meetings,
and
they
can
tell
me
one
story,
then
they
tell
me
a
different
story.
I
think
that
I'm
looking
at
a
better
future
for
these
two
kids
and
it's
our
safety
that
I'm
more
concerned
about
and
living
in,
the
situation
that
we
are
right
now.
E
I,
don't
even
feel
safe,
living
here
anymore,
but
it's
the
only
thing
I
have
right
now
and
it's
what
I
have
for
the
future
for
these
two
kids
and
I'm
not
complaining
about
BHA,
because
BHA
has
supported
me
throughout
the
three
years
that
I've
been
here,
everything
I've
asked
for
has
been
done
and
I'm
just
looking
for
a
better
place
with
these
two
kids.
Thank
you.
A
B
A
F
I
know
chain
me
number
because
they're
sweet,
so
it
doesn't
enter
the
post.
I
wasn't
timing
me
pregunta
es
que
yo
tengo
me
PO,
so
handicap;
okay,
it
a
quality,
really
beneficio
Terranova
mode,
modernization
de
barro
proyecto
como
como
su
da
da
y
como
de
la
me
PO.
So
que
han
de
que
tiene
Mucha
difficult
go
at
a
para
me
well
say:
yeah
I,
mucho,
problema,
donde,
yo,
vivo
beloved
enter
me.
Mama,
tienen
la
pasta,
yo
pro
camera
me
conoce.
He
LD
l
operate
a
glossy
yahoo,
a
mucho
mobile,
say:
I
will
eat.
G
My
name
is
Betsy
Rodriguez
I
am
also
a
resident
of
the
Boston
housing
projects.
Here
in
Charlestown
my
question:
what
benefits
are
we
going
to
see
as
residents
when
this
modernization
takes
place?
I'm,
particularly
particularly
concerned,
because
my
husband
is
handicapped?
Currently,
he
has
a
lot
of
issues
with
mobility
being
in
a
wheelchair,
and
so
I'd
like
to
know
what
accommodations
are
going
to
be
made
for
him
when
this
modernization
takes
place.
H
I
So
I've
been
here
for
a
long
time
and
I'm
one
of
those
people
that
believe
that
they
have
to
do
something
about
our
development
and
since
the
government
no
longer
wants
to
support
us
with
the
70
percent
that
we
need
to
survive,
they
have
to
do
something
else.
And
mr.
Corcoran
is
one
of
those
people
that
signed
up
to
take
on
this
huge
job
and
I
was
one
of
those
people
that
voted
for
him
and
I'm.
I
A
J
Good
evening,
I
have
a
written
statement
I'd
like
to
put
into
the
record
that
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
questions.
Madam
chair
and
members
of
the
council.
I
am
bill,
McGonagall
I'm,
the
administrator
of
the
Boston
Housing
Authority.
Let
me
say
at
the
outset
that
I
am
pleased
to
be
here
today,
particularly
with
so
many
of
our
Bunker
Hill
development
residents,
including
members
of
the
housing
developments
outstanding
resident
organization,
the
Chou's
town
resident
Alliance.
J
As
you
may
know,
Bunker
Hill
is
the
largest
public
housing
development
in
New
England,
with
1,100
very
low-income
families
who
have
an
average
income
of
$17,000
per
year.
The
development
sits
on
a
24
acres
site
and
is
in
fact
one
of
the
most
diverse
census
tracts
in
the
city
of
Boston,
perhaps
one
of
the
most
diverse
census
tracts
in
the
United
States
of
America.
It
provides
a
home
to
many
african-americans
Hispanics
white
Asians
and
Native
Americans,
who
collectively
speak
approximately
15
different
languages.
J
More
than
1,000
children
under
the
ages
of
17
reside
there
as
well
as
238
elderly
residents.
The
goal
of
this
unique
and
unprecedented
redevelopment
effort
is
now
has
been
to
create
decent,
modern,
affordable
housing
in
the
heart
of
Charlestown,
first
and
foremost,
for
the
families
currently
living
at
the
site
and
for
future
generations
of
low-income
Bostonians.
J
Please
let
me
briefly
recap
the
rationale
and
the
reasons
why
we
began
this
massive
undertaking
and
move
forward
with
the
residents
of
the
bunkie
of
Bunker
Hill.
With
a
request
for
redevelopment
proposals.
The
Bunker
Hill
development
was
built
in
the
late
1930s
and
opened
for
occupancy
on
June
20th
1941.
J
Regrettably,
as
we
all
know,
and
as
has
been
well
documented,
the
federal
government
has,
for
decades
rapidly
been
retreating
from
adequate
operational
and
capital
funds
for
public
housing
programs
nationally,
while
contemplating
strategies
to
deal
with
this
growing
federal
withdrawal
of
financial
support
for
public
housing
and
how
we
might
creatively
respond
to
that.
We
at
the
BHA
have
begun
to
focus
on
one
of
the
assets
we
that
we
do
have
here
in
Boston,
specifically
much
of
our
public
housing
is
situated
on
very
valuable
land.
J
The
Bunker
Hill
housing
development
in
Charlestown
is
certainly
one
of
those
sites,
the
value
of
the
land
that
many
of
our
communities
are
on
in
the
potential
to
leverage
the
value,
as
well
as
leveraging
market
forces
to
help
preserve
for
the
long
term.
The
affordable
public
housing
at
Bunker,
Hill
and
other
communities
in
Boston
is
key.
J
Therefore,
what
we
have
been
exploring
here
and
in
other
communities
in
Boston
is
the
concept
that,
by
adding
market
rate
housing
and
therefore
creating
a
mixed
income
mixed
income
community,
we
might
generate
enough
revenue
to
support
the
preservation
of
the
deeply
affordable
homes.
This
is
and
will
be
challenging.
At
the
same
time,
we
recognize
that,
in
order
to
do
that,
we
need
to
create
a
diverse
mixed
income
community
that
fits
well
in
within
the
broader
child
style
neighborhood
and
is
an
asset
to
this
historic
community.
J
J
Everyone
supports
redeveloping
the
site
and
delivering
a
high
quality
mixed
in
community
community
for
our
residents
and
the
broader
community
in
closing
I
remain
hopeful
that
we
can
all
find
the
right
balance
of
density
and
the
right
proposal
to
achieve
this
goal.
Thank
you
all
and
happy
st.
Patrick's
Day.
A
J
J
J
I
can
provide
reams
of
documentation
that
will
substantiate
that
the
federal
government
over
the
past
couple
of
decades
and
I
would
not
want
to
get
partisan
and
I
would
suggest
that
the
Democratic
and
Republican
administrations
in
Washington
have
been
far
less
than
generous
and
have
provided
significantly
insufficient
operational
and
capital
funds
for
public
housing
authorities
all
over
the
country.
So.
A
J
Regrettably,
came
to
that
conclusion
several
years
ago,
after
ongoing
annual
underfunding
and
quite
frankly,
challenged
my
staff,
Kate
Bennett
and
my
outstanding
redevelopment
staff
to
come
up
with
a
concept
that
might
be
able
to
provide
the
private
capital
needed
to
preserve
our
public
housing.
It
in
certain
communities.
As
I
said
in
my
statement
where
we
could
leverage
the
value
of
the
land
in
the
market
forces
to
generate
that
capital.
So.
J
J
J
J
A
H
J
J
The
developer
selection
process
here
for
Bunker
Hill
was
done
in
the
precisely
the
same
way
that
we
have
selected
developers
in
ten
or
twelve
housing
developments
throughout
the
city
of
Boston
over
the
past
30
or
35
years.
It,
the
development
selection
committee.
Well,
we
send
out
an
RFP,
obviously
and
various
folks
will
development
companies
will
submit
their
proposals
and
the
VHA
sets
up
a
selection
committee
that
is
made
up
of
a
BHA
residents
and
BHA
staff.
J
I
would
add
that,
as
far
as
I
know,
we
are
the
only
Housing
Authority
in
the
country
that
includes
residents
in
the
selection
process.
So
we
have
committees
that
read
the
proposals
frequently
interview
the
folks
that
have
submitted
usually
on
more
than
one
occasion,
I
believe
for
this
development
selection
process.
All
of
the
submittals
where
folks
were
interviewed
twice,
and
then
the
committee
scores
the
various
criteria
and
makes
a
recommendation
to
me
and
I
make
a
decision.
H
J
The
one
thing
it
was
first
of
all,
it
was
a
very
close
competition
poas
submitted
the
preservation
of
affordable
housing
and
related
Beale,
and
there
was
one
other
one
to
Trinity
I
think
and
it
was
a
very
good,
close
competition.
The
single
item
in
the
proposal
that
I
was
most
impressed
with
was
the
carbon
son
Cal
commitment
to
real
economic
diversity,
the
some
of
the
other
proposals.
J
Several
of
the
other
proposals
had
mixed
income
communities,
but
they
separated,
quite
frankly,
the
poor
folks
from
the
rich
folks
in
different
buildings,
and
that
is
not
from
my
perspective.
Economic
integration
I
want,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
to
have
housing
that
the
quality
of
the
housing
is
the
same
for
some
of
our
existing
residents
or
from
somebody.
That's
on
Social
Security
disability
that
might
be
living
next
door
to
a
lawyer.
J
In
New
York
for
a
while,
they
actually
had
in
mixed
income
housing
a
separate
door
for
the
poor
folks
that
they
used
to
call
the
poor
door,
which
is
an
outrageous
notion,
and
that
was
not
all
that
long
ago.
So
that
was
the
one
single
thing
that
struck
me
as
significantly
important
in
a
core
concern.
Cal
proposal
and.
K
J
A
J
Think
I
have
a
great
relationship
with
the
residents
of
this
development
and
public
housing.
Developments
throughout
the
city
I
make
an
effort
to
work
very
closely
with
them.
I've
tried
to
be
very
supportive
of
them.
They
have
legal
counsel,
independent
legal
counsel,
which
I
think
is
important,
and
my
friend
Jay
Rose
was
willing
to
come
out
here
and
represent
them
at
my
request,
quite
frankly,
paid
for
one
of
their
staff
members,
that's
working
with
them
full
time.
A
At
some
point,
the
selection
was
made
and
planning
began
to
occur
and
we'll
walk
through
or
talk
with
some
of
that
planning
mm-hmm
with
with
Cochran
Jennison,
but
just
to
get
to
what
recently
happened.
At
some
point
there
was
a
breakdown
in
this
Cochran
Jennison
and
some
call.
When
did
you
find
out
that
son
Kyle
was
no
longer
going
to
be
financing
or
be
part
of
this
I'm.
J
We
had
some
additional
discussions
with
the
Corcoran
companies
and
indicated
they
indicated
we
mutually
agreed
that
they
would
search
for
another
partner
and
ultimately,
they
were
successful
to
convince
the
legged
folks
to
join
a
partnership
and
they
have
submitted
that
proposal
to
us.
We
are
in
the
process
of
reviewing
that
with
the
child's
own
resident,
Alliance
and
I
suspect
some
time
and
probably
mid-may
we'll
make
a
final
determination
as
to
whether
or
not
we
think
this
is
a
viable
partnership.
J
A
J
J
Knew
going
into
it
quite
frankly
that
it
wasn't
going
to
be
easy
and,
quite
frankly,
I
suspected
that
there
would
be
some
fits
and
starts,
because
this
has
never
been
done
before.
There
is
no
road
map
to
follow
for
this
kind
of
public-private
partnership,
but
I'm
hopeful
that
ultimately,
the
VHA
and
the
CRA
will
be
able
to
move
forward.
But
if
not
we'll
send
out.
J
J
A
J
L
Thank
you,
so
the
line
of
questioning
from
councillor
Edwards
I,
just
want
to
ask,
could
you
share
is
that,
according
to
certain
percentages
allocated
that
only
to
those
individuals
living
with
disabilities,
but
also
the
elderly,
because
I
know
that's
a
big
part
of
this
population
as
well,
so
in
addition
to
making
sure
that
the
units
are
affordable
but
that
they
that
we
are
thinking
of
a
sub-sub
sets
within
that
larger
community.
So,
yes,.
J
J
Current
proposal
has
an
elderly
only
building
in
it,
I
think
it's
somewhere
180
ish
about
180
a
building,
that's
exclusively
for
folks
62
and
over
counselor
and
I
suspect
there'll
be
other
elderly
folks
living
in
you
know
the
non
specific
elderly,
one
of
the
things
we've
looked
at
is
the
number
of
elderly
folks
that
are
in
that
community
now
and
insured
that
we
are
in
fact
replacing
sufficient
to
house
all
of
the
elderly.
Folks
that
are
in
that
community.
L
J
Bill,
it's
we've
actually
gettin
pretty
good
at
that
relocation.
Stuff
we've
been
relocating
families
for
major
redevelopments
now,
since
the
mission
main
redevelopment
about
30
years
ago,
and
we
offer
folks
a
combination
of
a
relocation
to
another
PHA
public
housing
development
or
a
section
8
certificate,
their
choice,
whatever
they
opt
for,
we
will
work
with
a
housing,
relocation
consultant
housing
opportunities,
unlimited
that
has
worked
successfully
with
us
at
many
of
our
redevelopment
efforts
and
are
very,
very
good
at
dealing
with
the
difficult,
sometimes
emotionally
difficult
of
relocating.
L
J
Yes,
counseling
be
phases;
okay,
so
a
project
of
this
size.
We
are
four
or
five
phases.
It
will
take.
I
suspect
I
mean,
for
example,
the
only
other
development
of
this
size
that
we've
tackled
and
it's
actually
a
bit
smaller
is
the
Old
Colony
housing
development
and
we
just
finished
up
two
phases
and
there's
we're
open
to
great
break
ground
on
page
three
sometime
before
the
end
of
this
year,
but
there'll
be
another
phase,
so
that
was
for
faith.
This
will
be
at
least
four,
perhaps
five
phases,
ten
twelve
years
from
start
to
finish,.
L
L
Families
are
disconnected
from
support
systems
and
structures
and
perhaps
their
accessibility
to
child
care
or
their
ability
to
get
to
their
job.
You
know
all
of
these
things
are
compromised
know.
So
how
are
their
wraparound
interventions
and
supports
I'm
glad
that
it's
sequenced,
but
how
do
we
make
sure
that
families
are
prepared
for
what
this
impact
will
be
in
the
totality.
M
A
J
A
J
J
B
J
You
know
it's
it's
really.
A
very
extensive
I
should
have
brought
housing
opportunities
unlimited
here
they
reach
out
to
the
family
very
very
early
in
the
process.
It's
months
before,
I
can't
I,
don't
know
what
the
precise,
but
it's
months
before
they
are
relocated
to
begin
the
process
and
to
begin
the
discussions
to
begin
the
possible
unique
needs
that
that
family
might
have,
and
you
know
I
think
quite
frankly,
if
you
ask
around
the
city
in
the
10
or
12
developments
where
we've
relocated.
Folks,
we've
I
don't
get
a
lot
of
complaints
about
relocation.
J
J
B
J
J
B
B
B
B
B
Councillor
Edwards
asked
me
to
explain
just
McKinney
I.
My
name
is
Andy
storage,
I
apologize
again
for
being
late.
I
chair
the
Committee
on
homelessness,
mental
health
and
recovery.
One
of
the
pieces
that
I
focused
quite
a
bit
on
as
a
former
bps
teacher,
is
our
students
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
and
I.
Would
I
would
venture
to
say
that
this
is
a
homeless
experience
when
we're
displacing
families
and
students
and
through
McKinney
Vento,
which
is
federal
legislation.
B
A
And
so
what
we'll
do
too
is
well
I'll,
go
through
the
questions,
because
it's
already
a
little
after
7:00
and
then
open
it
up
and
have
all
have
Cochrane
jettison
and
the
BHA
sit
here
so
that
the
audience,
if
you
have
a
directed
question
for
them,
you
can
ask
them
to
okay.
This
will
just
so
hopefully,
hopefully
you've
written
down
some
of
the
questions
I've
already
asked,
so
we
don't
want
to
be
too
repetitive
either.
O
Counsel,
ed
woods
and
members
of
the
Boston
City
Council
I'm,
just
gonna
read
a
little
statement
here:
I'm
Joe
Carper
and
president
Corcoran
Jennison
associates.
Let
me
start
by
saying
the
model
for
the
RFP
response.
Mr.
McGonigle
mentioned
is
how
the
point
it
was
developed
in
the
late
80s
by
my
father's
company.
My
father
was
a
great
proponent
of
mixed
income
housing
and
in
fact
he
started
his
company
in
1971
to
focus
upon
building
mixed
income
communities
I
feel
like
I've
grown
up
in
the
affordable
housing
business
long
before
I
started
actually
working
in
it.
O
Let's
see
at
Harbor,
Point
residents
of
various
incomes
live
side-by-side.
As
bill
mentioned,
there
were
no
low
income
buildings
and
no
market
rate
buildings.
Everyone
has
the
same
units
same
finishes
and
same
rules.
In
addition,
the
residents
have
shared
oversight
of
the
management
as
partners.
This
was
a
vision
he
had
in
mind
in
crafting
the
response
to
the
RFP.
The
market
rate
units
cross
subsidize
the
affordable
units
which
allows
a
property
to
be
self-sustaining,
because
the
property
needs
to
always
attract
market
rate
residents.
It
needs
to
be
well
maintained
at
all
times.
O
O
So
because
the
property
needs
to
always
attract
market
rate
residents,
it
needs
to
be
well
maintained
at
all
times.
From
this
standpoint,
the
property
behaves
just
like
any
market
rate
apartments
property
which
includes
a
substantial,
affordable
component,
and
why
I
believe
we
can
attract
private
capital
to
the
development
in
Charlestown.
O
To
answer
an
earlier
question,
the
submission
in
2015
proposed
2,400
units
I,
propose
a
hundred
eighty
units
be
located
off-site
the
BHA
and
the
residents
on
the
selection
committee
liked
the
concept
I
had
a
goal
of
a
one-for-one
replacement
on
site.
Remember
our
program
relies
on
creating
market
rate
units
so
to
bring
those
180
units
back
on
site.
We
had
to
add
a
corresponding
number
of
market
rate
units
to
the
site
plan.
This
increase
the
density
pride
of
formal
submission
to
the
city.
O
The
development
team
attended
over
16
meetings
with
the
residents
of
the
Charlestown
development
and
then
had
a
series
of
meetings
with
the
greater
Charlestown
community.
The
meetings
were
with
individuals
and
small
groups
as
well.
There
was
a
great
interest
at
that
time
in
homeownership
and
we
informed
people
we
were
talking
to
that.
The
only
way
to
accommodate
an
ownership
component
was
with
height
and
that
that
height
would
likely
happen
to
be
near
the
bridge
and
later
play
later
phases.
The
lower
levels
of
the
buildings
needed
to
accommodate
the
rental
program.
O
O
Presently,
one
Charlestown
is
in
the
middle
of
a
article
80
large
project
review.
We
filed
an
expanded
notification
form
in
September
2016,
a
series
of
formal
public
hearings
were
held
and
as
and
as
well
many
smaller
meetings
with
individuals
and
small
groups,
one
Charlestown
is
risky,
received
a
scoping
determination
prepared
by
the
BPD
a
in
response
to
public
comments
from
the
community
in
various
city
departments.
The
next
step
is
to
prepare
a
draft
project
impact
report.
O
The
transition
of
development
partners
has
delayed
the
preparation
of
this
d
PIR.
The
project
knee
team
is
now
in
a
deliberative
procurement
process
conducted
by
the
BHA.
If
I
proposed
reconstituted
partnership
is
approved,
we
look
forward
to
preparing
the
DPI
AR
and
re-engage
in
with
the
CRA
and
the
Greater
Charlestown
community.
This
is
a
transformative
project.
Nothing
of
this
size
and
scope
is
easy,
but
we
want
to
walk
hand
in
hand
with
the
Charlestown
Resident
Alliance,
the
great
Charlestown
community
and
the
elected
officials,
to
do
something
extraordinary
here.
A
So
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
launch
into
a
series
of
questions
I
would
so
just
to
make
sure
I
don't
know.
If
everyone
heard
this,
the
original
RFP
was
about
2400
units
with
a
hundred
and
eighty
off-site
that
was
rejected
ultimately
and
said.
We
wanted
a
one
for
one
replacement
of
the
eleven
hundred
and
ten
units,
and
nor
should
you
that
the
density
had
to
go
up.
So
is
that
is
that
explaining
the
reason
why
I
went
from
twenty
four
hundred
and
thirty
two
hundred
units,
partly.
O
And
also
you
know
when
we
we
went
out
before
we
even
submitted
and
talked
to
a
lot
of
people
as
we
always
do,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
desire
to
have
some
home
ownership,
but
the
property
too.
So
adding
the
home
ownership
as
well
led
to
that
thirty.
Two
hundred
unit
number
that
we
first
submitted
with
so.
O
The
rectum
we
I
mean,
frankly,
we
probably
got
you
know
as
developers
when
we
start
playing
around
with
plans.
You
know
things
get
a
little
higher
and
we
kind
of
misread
the
acceptance
of
that
you
know,
and
but
the
the
the
high-rise
buildings
are
gone
and
clearly
they
in
and
we've
been
before,
even
though
we've
been
a
little
I
haven't
been
in
the
community
recently
I
think
we've
made
it
clear
to
just
about
everyone
that
we
have
no
high-rise
buildings
in
the
plan.
Right
now,.
O
O
Son
Cal
is
actually
still
in
the
organizational
strategy.
Son
Cal
notified
us
in
the
early
fall
due
to
some
business
concerns
unrelated
to
this
project
whatsoever
that
they
thought
it
would
be
a
good
idea
if
we
went
and
found
another
partner
to
replace
them
because
they
couldn't
really
continue
on.
So
we
begin
a
search
you
know
before
he
came
to
mr.
McGonigle
I
wanted
to
make
sure
he
had
some
something
to
say
and
so
we've
been.
O
H
O
A
O
We
we
have
an
investment
banking
company
working
with
us
and
asked
them
to
kind
of
run,
a
introduce
us
to
various
other
development
partners
and
through
that
I
met
them
through
that
process.
I've
known
their
work
for
years,
but
I
honestly
have
never
met
any
of
the
principal's,
although
one
of
the
guys
work
and
used
to
work
for
my
father's
company
years
ago.
So
we
had
that
kind
of
connection
and.
A
O
Yeah
I
mean
we
work
out
all
those
details
as
we
using
through
it,
but
you
know
we're
kind
of
a
local
on
the
ground,
people
and
and
they're
very
good,
with
the
very
complicated
financial
analysis
and
planning
and
combining
with
the
construction
expertise
to
help
make
the
project
go
and
as
also
to
be
a
very
financially
strong
partner
that
can
attract
other
capital
to
the
to
the
project
just
by
their
presence.
You
know
the
big
as
mentioned
earlier.
This
is
a
billion
dollar
project
by
several
people.
H
O
It
needs
to
attract
a
lot
of
money,
and
you
know
that
money
likes
to
see
an
expert
team
in
place
when
they
invest
in
a
project
and
they
bring
that
kind
of
strength
to
the
project.
Frankly,
I
you
know,
the
VHA
will
do
their
analysis,
but
I
think
Leggett
McCall
is
actually
a
stronger
partner
than
son.
Cal
was
frankly
the
local
they're
based
right
here,
I
think
they're
going
to
come
and
say
a
few
words
and
kind
of
to
their
own
horn
in
a
minute,
but
I
think
we
have
a
great
team
going
forward.
That's.
A
And
I,
just
one
of
the
concerns
that
folks
have
raised
is
about
the
community
and
the
wraparound
services
that
residents
have
health
services.
Tough,
tufts
medical
there's
been
a
lot
of
institutional
services
that
have
been
built
around
this
community.
Do
you
have
a
commitment
to
build
on
those?
Oh.
O
Absolutely
I
mean
you
know:
Bill
Mensch
mentioned
the
relocation,
that's
the
first
and
you
know
when
we
have
a
construction
start
date.
The
relocation
process
itself
will
start
12
to
nine
months
before
that,
starting
to
interview
residents
and
find
out
what
their
needs
are
and
and
kind
of
figure
out
what
has
to
be
done
for
the
transition
in
an
ongoing
basis.
You
know
once
occupancy
supportive
services
are
a
key
component
to
making
the
whole
thing
work
and
we
hope
to
work
with
the
CRA
and
have
robust
community
service
program
developed
on
the
property.
O
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
it's.
It
has
its
ups
and
downs.
You
know
it's
a
very
complicated
project,
we're
getting
to
know
each
other
a
little
better
and
I
think
this
delay
is
probably
put
a
little
more
stress
on
it.
You
know
when
you're
actively
moving
forward.
You
have
a
lot
of
reasons
to
to
be
meeting
together
because
there's
a
lot
of
decisions
that
need
to
be
made
and
this
little
delay
it
just
kind
of
stalled
that
a
little
bit
but
I
think
we'll
get
back
on
track
with
it.
O
A
O
A
O
Know
I
mean
obviously
they
need
I.
Think
the
you
know
the
off-site
relocation
is
a
is
a
good
idea
to
kind
of
reduce
the
density
that
actually
came
out
of
the
community
process,
with
the
article
80
process
frankly,
but
retaining
the
streets
and
and
working
on
some
of
those
things
I
think
there's
some
things
that
will
you
know
we've
taken
a
look
at
and
we'll
see
how
they
work
in
the
plan
itself
as
we're
developing
the
new
plan
and
your.
O
I
mean
I've
been
I've,
been
in
working
in
this
and,
as
I
mentioned,
my
father's
been
in
it
for
years,
I
mean
I've,
been
exposed
to
hog
a
point
in
Kingsland
and
all
kinds
of
developments
that
my
father's
done
and
I've
been
in
roles
of
asset
management
within
that
company
and
I
kind
of
know,
the
business
aspects
of
it
and
I've
got
tremendous
development
experience
on
the
market
rate
side
as
well,
and
various
different
kind
of
development
projects.
This.
O
L
O
H
H
L
O
Know
honestly,
we
haven't
really
got
to
that
level
of
detail
on
it.
Yet
I
mean
we're
still
very
much
in
the
and
the
planning
and
finalization
stage,
but
I
think
we
want
a
retail
component
that
is
service
related
to
the
community.
I
mean
not
maybe
certainly
like
any
big
big-box
retail
anything
of
that
nature,
but
community
size
detail,
but
we
haven't
we'll
get
to
that.
O
L
O
Well,
it
you
know,
maybe
in
a
if
there's
a
construction
project
of
300
units
that
might
be
200
people
working
on
at
any
given
time.
Okay,
something
like
that
and-
and
you
know
we're
committed
to
you-
know:
community
participation,
it's
a
goal
to
be
a
che.
It's
in
the
RFP.
You
know:
we've
got
a
higher
resident
city
residents
and
we'll
do
that
through
a
general
contracting.
O
R
L
S
L
O
Thank
you,
I.
Think.
If
you
look
at
you
know,
mitigation
agreements
out
of
the
article
80
process
does
all
those
things
that
you
mentioned
that
come
out
of
it.
So
I
mean
it's
something
to
be
negotiated
when
we
get.
If
we
get
to
that
point,
when
we
get
to
that
point
which
will
be
you
know,
if
we
get
to
that
point
at
the
end
of
the
year,
that'd
be
terrific
if
we
can
get
there
so.
L
J
L
O
O
O
L
O
O
A
O
O
O
A
All
right,
I'm
going
to
go
I
just
wanted
to
also
invite
up
I
get
McCall
to
come
and
and
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
They
are
not
designated
as
a
partner
in
this
project.
The
consideration,
as
has
been
testified
to
will
happen,
who
will
decide,
ultimately
will
be
the
CRA
and
the
BHA
as
to
whether
they
are
designated
or
not
so
they
were
invited
because
their
name
is
out
there
and
they
are.
A
They
are
asking
for
consideration,
but
I
wanted
that
to
be
very
clear
that
the
ultimate
can
the
ultimate
decision
will
be
with
BHA
in
the
CRA.
So
if
you
will
have
a
brief
statement,
but
they
will
not
be
taking
any
questions
either
from
myself
or
from
the
audience,
because
again
they
are
not
an
actual
designated
partner.
Yet
Thank.
S
As
councillor
Edwards
mentioned,
we
are
not
yet
approved
by
the
PHA
as
a
selected
developer,
so
we're
going
to
keep
our
remarks
both
short
and
to
the
point
without
answering
specifics
about
the
project
itself,
because
it's
simply
premature
for
us
to
do
so.
What
I'd
like
to
do
today
is
really
focus
on
three
things:
for
you
a
little
bit
describing
who
we
are?
Secondly,
describing
why
we
want
to
get
involved
with
this
project.
We've
heard
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
very
difficult
project.
S
It's
a
very
large
project
and
I'd
like
to
talk
to
you
about
why
we
see
it
as
an
opportunity.
Lastly,
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
we're
doing
at
this
juncture,
to
address
the
items
that
mr.
McGonigle
noted
still
remain
outstanding
prior
to
our
being
able
to
be
ratified
as
an
addition
to
the
team.
So,
first
of
all
who
we
are
like
McCall
celebrated
its
50th
50th
anniversary
two
years
ago
and
is
locally
owned
and
operated.
I
mentioned
that
I'm.
S
The
co-president
of
the
firm
with
me
this
evening
is
my
co
partner,
Mahmud
Mele.
He
would
you
raise
your
hand
as
well
as
Harry
Nash,
who
I
think
Joel
mentioned
earlier,
actually
worked
with
Corcoran
Jennison
some
years
ago,
Mahmood
and
I
met
in
college
and
have
worked
together
for
34
years
at
lega
McCall.
So
we've
been
a
fixture
there
for
quite
some
time.
Harry
has
constructed
over
6,000
units
of
residential
housing
and
would
be
the
project
executive
that
we
would
have
working
on
this
project
in
conjunction
with
Corcoran
Jennison,
a
little
bit
about
our
firm.
S
We
do
both
fee-based
project
management
for
others,
and
we
also
invest
for
our
own
account.
We
do
quite
a
bit
of
work
for
mission
driven
nonprofits
such
as
universities
and
healthcare
systems.
Our
clients
include
Harvard,
MIT,
Partners,
HealthCare,
Beth,
Israel,
Deaconess,
mph
Bergen
and
women's
northeastern
Tufts,
etc.
S
We've
been
involved
with
over
two
billion
dollars
a
residential
project
since
2002
on
an
annual
basis.
We
put
about
a
billion
dollars
worth
of
projects
in
place
and
have
done
so
for
the
past
dozen
years.
So
the
local
experience,
the
large
project
experience
our
experience
with
extraordinarily
difficult,
both
construction
undertakings
as
well
as
community
involvement,
we
believe,
qualifies
us
to
become
a
partner
with
you
in
this
undertaking.
We
have
extensive
experience
with
the
BP
da,
as
well
as
the
architectural
engineering
and
contracting
community.
S
In
fact,
we've
just
completed
a
process
with
beatbeat
EA
and
our
breaking
ground
on
a
six
hundred
unit
complex
near
the
Boston
Medical
Center.
As
we
speak
next
I'll
try
to
answer
the
question
is:
why
do
we
want
to
be
involved
with
this
project?
I
think
this
is
the
CRA
mentioned
that
this
undertaking
will
be
nearly
a
billion
dollars.
This
is
an
extremely
complicated
project.
It
needs
to
balance
the
needs
of
many
different
constituencies.
We
pride
ourselves
in
undertaking
large,
complicated
urban
projects
with
diverse
problems
and
needs
of
various
constituent
players.
S
We
need
first
and
foremost-
and
this
has
been
made
abundantly
clear
to
us
by
the
BHA
to
satisfy
the
current
occupants
of
the
complex
represented
by
the
CRA,
which
we
acknowledge
come.
First
and
foremost,
we
share
the
vision
of
the
original
proposal
of
creating
an
economically
and
ethnically
diverse
community.
That
is
again
been
abundantly
clear
to
us
that
that
will,
in
fact
be
a
component
of
this
project.
We
also
recognize
that
this
will
have
a
substantial
impact
on
the
neighbors
and
the
neighborhoods
and
that
we
need
to
talk
to
them.
S
Bh,
ABP
da
and
other
various
city
constituencies
have
to
be
dealt
with
and
last
and
not
least
whether
we
want
to
recognize
that
or
not
the
economic
interest
of
investors
that
will
be
required
to
invest
that
billion
dollars
that
the
CRA
mentioned.
So
in
asking
the
questions
as
to
profit
margins
or
returns.
The
basic
answer
to
that
is:
we
need
to
provide
an
economically
viable
project
that
will
in
fact
attract
a
billion
dollars
of
capital
to
be
invested
over
nearly
a
decade-long
project.
S
This
delicate
balancing
act
to
define
and
deliver
on
what
is
possible
is
a
challenge.
Mill
McGonagall
spoke
of
the
challenges
we
face
in
trying
to
marry
these
diverse
interests
into
a
viable
project.
It
won't
be
easy,
but
these
public/private
enterprises
are
very
likely
to
become
more
prominent
in
the
future
as
a
vehicle
to
finance
the
needs
of
housing
agencies
to
either
upgrade
or
replace
the
lappa
dated
housing
stocks.
We
believe
that
we
have
the
creativity,
experience
and
vision
to
work
in
partnership
with
all
of
you
to
realize
on
the
potential
of
our
project.
S
Now
I'd
like
to
speak,
maybe
a
little
bit
more
personally
about
why
it
is.
We
want
to
do
this
in
our
world.
Frankly,
this
is
a
dream
come
true.
This
is
the
the
ability
to
help
redefine
an
entire
neighborhood
to
participate
in
creating
a
diverse
community,
reflecting
the
makeup
of
the
greater
community
at
large
and
replace
an
aging
eyesore.
My
partners
and
I
view.
This
is
a
once-in-a-lifetime
opportunity
to
be
an
active
participant
in
creating
a
neighborhood
and
look
forward
to
gaining
your
confidence
and
respect.
S
Lastly,
I'd
like
to
speak
about
what
we're
doing
at
this
juncture
to
address
the
items
that
mr.
McGonigle
noted
remain
outstanding.
The
BHA,
in
consultation
with
the
CRA,
is
a
desk,
asked
us
to
address
a
number
of
issues
associated
with
our
qualifications
and
experience
our
financial
capability,
our
willingness
to
acknowledge
and
adhere
to
the
requirements
of
the
original
RFP
and
our
vision
of
the
project
and
for
the
project,
including
plans,
budget
revenue
and
expense
forecasts
and
financing
schemes.
We
have
provided
some,
but
not
all
of
the
information
required
of
us.
S
Most
specifically,
we
have
sought
and
been
great
an
additional
time
to
flesh
out
the
specifics
for
our
vision
of
the
project,
which
includes
addressing
some
of
the
issues
that
that
Joe
Corcoran
addressed
here
earlier
that
that
failed
to
meet
the
vision
of
the
community
at
large.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
the
CRA
and
the
BHA
jointly
in
defining
this
new
community.
We
are
in
the
due
diligence
period.
We
have
reengaged
the
design
and
construction
teams
to
provide
substance
around
that
vision.
S
A
A
So
we're
going
to
really
ask
folks
to
keep
your
question
or
comment
to
the
one
and
a
half
minute
kind
of
mark
to
make
sure
we
can
get
through
everyone
I
think
we
can,
if
we
do
it
that
way,
if
just
some
quick
math
so
the
first
person
we
have
is
Eric
Philippi
from
30
to
Mount
monument
Street
you're
AB.
Excuse
me
Eric
forward.
A
A
O
R
A
Q
Good
evening,
everybody
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
say
make
a
few
comments
by
rethinking
charlestown
one
idea.
Charles
Town
has
momentarily
averted
a
tsunami.
Why
did
the
proposal
of
2400
units
never
get
off
the
ground?
No
linkage.
It's
generally.
The
explanation
and
I
think
it's
a
very
important
topic
that
linkage
be
explained
to
all
of
us,
because
18
billion
dollars
went
in
to
the
harbor
area
north
port
and
that
all
of
that
went
into
a
mostly
white
and
business
area,
and
a
billion
dollars
would
solve
many.
Q
Q
A
H
T
Of
all,
thank
you
for
doing
this.
This
is
really
important
for
our
community.
My
name
is
Terry
Kennedy
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
the
Kennedy
Center.
Most
of
you
know
that
Kennedy
Center
has
been
serving
Charlestown
folks,
BHA
residents
the
whole
all
of
Charlestown
since
1964
this.
This
project
is
very
important
to
the
town
to
the
Kennedy
Center.
Some
of
the
challenges
that
we
look
at
with
this
is
at
least
in
the
original
original
plans
there
was
going
to
be.
T
Our
community
center
was
going
to
be
torn
down
as
part
of
the
first
phase,
so
that
becomes
a
real
challenge
for
us.
As
far
as
how
do
we
deal
with
that,
we
we
signed
on
early
as
far
as
supporting
this
project,
because
we
do
believe
that
it's
important
for
the
residents
of
BHA,
it's
important
for
Charlestown
we've
been
working
with
Joe
Corcoran
and
his
team
to
talk
about
the
problems,
and
you
know
they've
been
very
open
to
dealing
with
us
and
talking
about
you
know,
how
can
we
fix
some
of
these
things?
T
Parking
becomes
another
issue.
Some
of
the
original
plans
we
lose.
Some
of
our
parking
BHA
has
been
very
supportive
in
helping
us
with
parking,
but
if
we
don't
get
our
teachers
a
place
to
park
in
town,
they
can't
teach
kids,
so
just
in
general,
we
we
are
wanted
to
say
you
know.
We
really
appreciate
the
effort.
That's
going
into
this.
We
know
it's
a
challenging
process
and
we
we
want
to
be
here,
for
the
long
run.
T
U
K
Many
of
you
received
my
sister
here:
she's,
usually
the
mouth
in
the
voice,
I
hate
public
speaking,
but
she
had
appendicitis
yesterday,
so
she's
getting
them
removed
right
now,
so
my
name
is
Mary
Bowser
I'm,
a
former
resident
of
BHA
54-year
residents
of
Charlestown
and
I,
currently
live
at
Charles,
Newtown
I.
Don't
think!
There's
anyone
here
that
doesn't
want
to
be
a
che
redeveloped.
So
we
can
all
agree
on
that.
K
The
Haight
lieutenant
density
of
the
original
plan
was
unacceptable
to
the
Charlestown
community,
especially
to
the
residents
of
Newtown.
We
would
never
see
the
Sun
after
10:00
a.m.
because
of
the
proposed
height
of
the
building.
In
addition
to
the
number
of
units
on
the
RFP,
it
was
excessive.
The
town
cannot
handle
an
influx
of
7,000
plus
residents
that
would
move
into
3,200
units.
K
We
have
two
bus
routes,
one
pharmacy
that
sometimes
can
take
up
to
four
hours
to
fill
a
prescription
to
engines
in
one
ladder
company
one
ambulance
in
a
police
station
that
closes
at
11:00
p.m.
we
have
16
streets
that
connect
Bunker,
Hill
Street
to
Medford
Street.
But
you
can
only
travel
from
Medford
to
banca
on
two
of
them.
Both
streets
are
in
BH.
A
Polk
Street
is
a
designated
one
way
in
Monument
is
a
two-way.
You
have
to
drive
the
length
of
the
town
to
get
over
to
Main
Street.
K
K
A
A
Is
this
funding
that
goes
in
from
developers
who
are
building
commercial
space
they
pay
into
a
common
fund,
and
then
the
city
votes
or
members
of
the
linkage
fund,
Housing
Trust
vote
on
where
that
money
will
go,
and
it
happened
to
be
one
of
the
trustees
on
the
on
the
linkage
fund
voting,
but
I
also
wanted
to.
Let
folks
know
about
another
set
of
funding
that
we
will
have
a
conversation
about
it's
the
Community
Preservation
Act,
that
is
funding.
A
That
is
20
million
dollars
a
year
that
is
coming
after
we
passed
after
we
passed
question
5
and
we
will
be
setting
up
a
community
process
and
meeting
here
in
Charlestown
specifically
to
talk
about
how
individuals
nonprofits
any
organization
can
actually
apply
for
this
pot
of
money
and
the
standards
for
that.
So
I
wanted
folks
to
know
that
that
is
also
an
available
set
of
funding
60%
to
go
to
affordable
housing
and
I.
Think
the
last
20%
to
go
to
open
space
and
I
know
someone
here
is
also
very
interested
in
historic
preservation.
A
J
Just
you
know,
linkage
clearly
is
an
opportunity
to
help
with
this
project.
We
there's
linkage
funds
in
virtually
every
redevelopment
effort.
The
PHA
undertakes
so
would
expect
some
help,
but
I
would
have
to
point
out.
As
has
been
pointed
out,
this
is
a
project
of
over
a
billion
dollars
and
at
best
we'll
get
a
few
million
dollars
in
linkage,
so
it
certainly
will
help.
But
it's
not
certainly
not
a
solution
to
the
funding
problem
did.
A
You
have
any
comments
on
the
funding
and
then
we
there
was
also
comments
on
the
wraparound
services
acute
or
the
commitment
of
the
Kennedy
Center
54
years
strong,
and
we
expect
another
54
years
and
that
in
the
phase
1
their
Community
Center
was
going
to
be
removed
of
the
original
plan.
So
how
do
you
want
to
make
sure.
O
J
A
M
M
Sorry,
it's
okay
thanks.
My
name
is
Tom
Moselle
and
I
live
at
48,
Monument
Square.
Just
a
couple
of
things.
You
hear
the
term
one
charlestown
a
lot.
We
are
one
Charlestown
already
and
you
can
see
that
when
you
look
at
our
Halloween
night
parade
on
Monument
Square,
that's
who
we
are
we're
already
one
Charlestown
I
would
say
without
exception.
Everybody
in
Charlestown
wants
all
those
units
to
be
rebuilt
or
developed,
and
that
certainly
high-quality
those
aren't
the
issues.
M
The
issue
is,
how
do
you
get
there
and
linkage
was
cited
several
times
and
I
can't
emphasize
that
enough.
Bha
he's
got
a
lot
of
other
properties
in
the
city.
They
could
use
those
sites
to
help
with
the
market
rate
units
to
pay
for
the
units
in
Charlestown
we're
exceedingly
crowded
here.
The
proposal
for
this
was,
and
you
can
go,
I-
think
it's
102
one,
two,
nine
all
the
data
I'm
gonna
cite
is
on
there
with
the
proposal,
as
it
was
the
last
time
the
density
was
five
times.
M
The
density
of
New
York
City
I
mean
the
rates.
There
are
just
absolutely
crazy.
The
other
thing
is
public
safety.
How
hard
is
it
to
get
a
fire
truck
or
an
EMT
truck
in
and
out
of
Charlestown
at
rush
hour
that
Bunker
Hill
fired
that
we
had
last
year
had
that
occurred
with
this
development,
as
proposed,
there's
no
place
for
the
trucks
to
go
and
the
cars
can't
get
out
of
the
way,
because
there's
no
room
on
the
bridges.
So
that's
a
public
safety
issue
that
has
not
been
addressed.
M
That
absolutely
has
to
be
before
we
go
any
farther
and
then
last
thing
is.
As
we've
talked
in
the
past
several
months,
1,100
units
have
gone
up
within
about
a
hundred
yards
of
Charlestown
in
the
North
End,
there's
four
towers
with
1,100
units
and
then
there's
657
hotel
rooms,
they're
going
to
be
coming
online
in
the
next
year
and
those
657
hotel
rooms
have
to
be
serviced
by
employees.
So
that's
going
to
be
another
several
hundred
cars,
so
you
know
these
issues
have
not
been
addressed
and
it's
a
public
safety
issue.
Thank
you.
J
Nobody
at
this
juncture
is
contemplating
3,200
units
I,
think
we've
heard
loud
and
clear
from
the
community
that
that
is
excessive.
Whatever
is
proposed
in
the
hopefully
not-too-distant
future
will
not
be
anywhere
near
that
number.
We've
already
looked
at
how
we
might
be
able
to
deed
n
safai
the
project,
but
3,200
is
clearly
something
that's
not
acceptable
to
this
neighborhood.
V
V
That
process
was
one
where
we
had
17
community
meetings
all
over
Charlestown
in
order
to
solicit
the
comments
and
concerns
of
all
kinds
of
residents,
whether
they're
residents
that
live
in
Bunker
Hill
as
much
as
possible
that
we
could
talk
to
as
well
as
residents
in
Charles
Newtown
and
in
every
neighborhood
that
we
could
visit
and
I've
learned
a
lot
in
the
process.
The
other
thing,
I
wanted
to
say,
is
I'm
very
familiar
with
Corcoran
Jennison
since
I
had
the
opportunity
of
working
for
Joe's.
V
I'm,
a
volunteer
like
many
of
you
and
the
objective
here,
is
to
get
this
development
to
move
forward
and
to
do
it
in
a
process
that
involves
the
public
agencies
as
well
as
the
community,
and
certainly
the
residents
that
live
there
and
that's
been
my
objective
from
the
beginning
and
it
continues
as
long
as
I'm
invited
to
participate.
Thank
you.
W
I'm
dan
kvass
avec
I
live
in
Prescott
Street
near
City.
Square
I
have
been
sitting
down
with
Cochrane
Jennison
for
since
the
very
beginnings
of
this
project,
when
we
were
brought
in
a
number
of
community
residents,
members
of
the
Preservation
Society
and
Historic
Society
brought
in
to
talk
about
the
historic
aspects
of
the
site
and
that
process
involved
evolved
into
talking
about
the
development
itself
in
the
early
stages.
W
The
concern
we
have
of
the
density
now
being
said
here
that
we're
going
to
be
addressing
that
the
concern
that
the
the
density
of
the
community
and
the
density
of
this
new
development
has
to
be
much
closer
together
in
order
for
it
to
be
integrated
into
the
community.
The
other
part
of
it
is,
as
others
have
spoken,
is
servicing
that
area
with
sufficient
public
transportation
and
access
to
services
that
don't
exist
today
and
with
the
increased
density.
W
Even
you
know
clearly
you're
replacing
1,100
units
of
affordable
housing,
but
you've
got
to
generate
additional
housing
in
order
to
make
that
work,
and
so
that
process
is
going
to
require
additional
public
transportation
and
city
services,
and
that
needs
to
be
part
of
the
mix.
The
commitment
from
the
city
and
the
MBTA
has
to
be
on
the
table
as
the
process
moves
forward.
You
can't
do
it
and
then
expect
them
to
come
in
later,
because
they
don't
so
that's
pretty
much.
What
I
have
to
say.
Thank
you
very
much.
X
X
H
K
J
X
J
X
You
know
and
I
respect
you
for
that
and
Jo.
My
question
to
you
is
under
the
lease
in
that
under
the
99
year
lease,
so
the
1100
will
stay
there
during
that
time.
Is
that
part
of
the
agreement?
True
in
the
lease
agreement
using
lease
in
the
space,
but
there's
1,100
units
going
back
because
they
are
part
of
the
1990s
they.
J
Y
J
X
J
X
The
project
is
that
you
and
the
developer
that
is
going
to
fund
it
fully.
Are
you
getting
tax
credits
this
time,
the
bonds
or
are
you
funding
it
because
before
it
was
stated
that
you
and
some
cow
we're
partnering
and
funding
the
whole
project?
But
then
there
was
an
article
that
stated
you
will
get
tax
credits
and
bonds
just
a
question.
X
X
X
J
R
My
name
is
Tommy
Cunha
and
I've
been
a
resident
at
Shouse
town
for
65
years,
I'm
only
65,
so
don't
out
of
years
to
me,
because
just
not
my
whole
life,
which
is
what
Bill's
wanted
me
to
say,
but
I
don't
want.
I
want
to
tell
everybody
how
old
I
am,
though,
so
when
they
see
me
walk
on
the
streets,
they
know
I'm,
not
unemployed.
I
have
a
I
have
a
couple
of
comments
in
a
question.
My
comment
is
I'm
really
concerned
about
what
I
was
blowing
up
in
charlestown.
R
The
housing
development
was
always
told
to
me
to
be.
It
was
built
essentially
for
returning
veterans
from
both
will
want
to
win
the
Korean
War
and
there
was
always
a
place
for
them
to
find
I
have
a
lot
of
family
who
lived
down
there
and
some
lifelong
friends
who
parents
got
married
and
moved
in
because
they
were
veterans.
My
concern
is
that
I'm
hearing
numbers
of
1100
this
and
another
couple
another
thousand
or
two
for
making
the
market
work.
R
I
would
like
to
see
a
guarantee
that
a
hundred
of
those
homes,
however
low-income
moderate
income
or
whatever
be
put
aside
for
veterans
and
mainly
Charlestown
residents,
that
no
longer
can't
afford
to
live
in
town
I've
had
some
occasion
to
be
over
to
the
Pine
Street
in
quite
a
few
Sundays
and
some
other
places
I've
seen
my
contemporaries
and
even
younger
than
me
at
at
those
places
because
they
have
no
place
to
live.
So
we
can't
forget
the
people
that
made
it
special
for
us
to
live
here
and
I.
R
R
The
Bunker
Hill
Street
take
a
quick,
jog
and
me
down
on
Main
Street
I'm
real
concerned
about
those
Main
Street
scapes,
to
which
I
consider
to
be
a
major
fabric
in
our
community
being
changed
to
fit
the
development
I
think
the
development
should
fit
in
to
the
major
streets.
Now
people
have
there
have
been
an
awful
lot
of
veteran
squares
on
those
places,
and
things
like
that,
and
my
other
thought
is
that
the
people
that
have
been
honored
in
our
community,
their
name,
should
be
on
every
building
in
the
that
has
a
veteran's
square
there.
R
Now
let
me
get
into
my
Charlestown
Chairman's
question.
I've
been
involved
in
development
since
1986
in
this
community
I've
been
a
chairman
of
the
council
for
15
years.
This
is
the
biggest
project
this
community
in
my
development,
has
ever
seen
a
huge.
It
affects
the
whole
community.
I
know
people
who
live
in
the
housing
development
are
concerned
about
whether
they're
going
to
have
a
place
to
put
their
head
at
night,
and
is
it
going
to
be
special
more
than
what
they
have
now,
because
they've
been
putting
up
with
a
lot.
R
But
there
are
other
parts
of
our
community
that
this
is
going
to
affect
it's
going
to
bring
at
least
another
3,000
cars
on
our
streets
to
what
Fire
Department
police
department,
but
there's
the
problem
that
I
have.
If
you're
bringing
families
in
to
be
part
of
our
community,
then
we
were
those
kids
going
to
go
to
school
and
some
of
that
stuff
is
the
city's
problem,
but
a
lot
of
its
and
other
another
aspects
of
the
country.
The
developers
build
those
fire
departments
as
part
of
the
development
Police
Department's
as
part
of
that
or
schooling.
R
It's
really
it's
a
real
concern
that
this
percentage
of
community
dramatically
affects
the
rest
of
the
community.
Now
I
grew
up
like
I,
said
in
Jos,
town
with
family
and
friends,
and
I
and
I
got
friends
that
who
still
live
down
there,
and
my
concern
is
that
we
don't
have
a
split
because
of
the
dis
development,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
that
cause
splits.
Well,
one
thing
we
shouldn't
be
that
people
get
good,
adequate
housing
and
it
shouldn't
be
because
we
built
those
housing
I
can't
get
to
the
other
side.
R
Y
Y
Y
O
A
Just
to
follow
up
on
some
questions,
a
lot
of
the
reason
why
people
are
looking
at
then
the
rent
to
own
or
opportunities
is
because
that
they
they
feel
that
there
will
be
a
pathway
for
some
of
the
middle
class
to
be
able
to
get
in
there
because
affordable.
Really.
The
word
itself
is
a
lot
of
people.
Don't
even
find
that
to
be
make
much
sense
to
many
people,
so
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
planning
for
a
development
that
is
including
all
income
levels,
not
just
the
extremes
is.
O
Z
All
right
so
I
want
to
just
I'm
coming
at
this
from
a
young
person's
perspective,
I'm
a
young
Homer
and
bought
homeowner
in
Boston
I'm
in
an
advocate
for
more
housing
at
every
level
in
Boston.
So
just
just
the
to
help.
Answer
that
question
these
2100
or
whatever
end
up
the
market
rate.
Housing
is
going
to
open
up
housing
across
the
city
for
people
to
live
in,
to
make
that
those
middle
income
housing
more
more
affordable,
so
that
the
additional
Margate
housing
supply
benefits
everyone.
Z
So
there
will
be
young
people
living
in
that
they're
like
me,
they'll
be
able
to
live
in
those
units,
but
I
did
want
to
say
just
get
to.
My
testimony
is
I'm
here
to
advocate
for
three
primary
goals
to
be
reached
by
the
one
Charlestown
project.
The
first
is
to
advocate
for
the
reconstruction
of
all
1104,
dwell
apartments
and
Mark
and
bunker
the
Bunker
Hill
apartments.
The
city
should
take
every
step
possible
to
safely
house
these
residents
during
construction,
as
well
as
to
mitigate
any
displacement
of
current
residents
of
the
after.
Z
The
project
is
completed,
and
this
might
not
be
popular.
But
my
second
thing
is
to
advocate
for
the
highest
density
possible
from
our
great
housing
to
be
built
on
the
site.
This
project
provides
an
opportunity
for
the
city
to
upzone
and
build
significant
amount
of
housing
in
a
wealthier
neighborhood,
which
would
make
a
real
difference
in
outlying
neighborhoods,
like
East
Boston
in
Dorchester
that
are
suffering
from
the
pressures
of
displacement
and
gentrification
people
want
to
live
in
Charlestown.
Z
The
choice
is
either
to
build
homes
for
them
to
live
in
or
to
allow
housing
costs
and
Charlestown
to
keep
skyrocketing
and
forces
these
people
to
look
towards
more
affordable,
neighborhoods
and
displacing
current
residents
in
East
Boston
in
Dorchester
people
don't
choose
to
become
gentrified,
people
become
gentrified
and
we
don't
build
enough
housing
in
places.
The
most
desirable
places
to
live
in
the
III
came
here
with
another
homeowner,
my
brother,
who's
in
Charlestown.
He
lives
here
in
Charlestown.
He
knows
a
1-bedroom.
He
lives
there
with
his
wife.
Z
He
wants
to
be
able
to
afford
a
big,
larger
place
in
Charlestown.
We
need
to
be
building
more
market
rate,
affordable
housing.
My
generation
has
this
stigma
that
we're
transient
well
we're
transient
because
we
can't
afford
to
live
here.
We
have,
we
have
we
get
married,
we
have
kids,
but
you
don't
we're
not
if
we're
able
to
stay
here.
We
would
love
to
to
stay
here
and
to
live
here.
I
I
know,
but
but
this
this
supply
helps
everyone
and
then
that's
all.
AA
Hi,
thank
you
very
much.
I'm
diane
valley-
and
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
being
here
in
charleston
and
caring
so
much.
We
held
19
meetings
throughout
the
community
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
concern
so
that
we
could
come
up
with
an
alternative
plan,
and
I
think
that
all
the
people
here
are
evidence
that
we
care
that
we
want
to
do
something,
that's
great
for
the
people
who
live
in
the
community
development
and
also
around
it,
because
we
are
all
affected.
AA
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
say
is
the
density
became
an
overarching
issue
that
we
couldn't
tolerate
3,200
units
we
didn't
understand
how
we
got
from
2,400
to
3,200
units
and
that
we
got
a
high-rise
district.
So
that's
one
thing
that
I'd
like
to
make
sure
that
we
address
the
other
one.
That
I
really
think
is
important.
Is
the
public
financing.
AA
We've
been
told
that
we're
in
expect
that
we
are
the
first
experiment,
even
though
we're
the
largest
in
all
of
New
England,
that
we
will
have
no
public
financing
and
in
in
light
of
the
globe
article
that
seaport
got
18
billion
dollars
in
public
financing,
seems
like
we
should
have
something
that
would
help
us
to
build
a
community.
That's
really
worthwhile
and
the
third
one
is
today
in
the
paper.
AA
P
P
A
both
city
agencies
ignored
any
call
for
historic
preservation,
investigation,
a
restoration
process
on
this
historic
battlefield.
This
is
not
named
in
honor
of
a
battlefield.
The
land
between
Polk,
Street
and
monument
Street
was
actually
the
hottest
killing
zone.
Everyone
believes
that
it
happened
up
at
the
it's
not
true,
read
the
book.
P
Numerous
laws
of
state
and
federal
procedure
process
are
in
place
for
this
type
of
development
process.
Hearing
and
proposal
designs
were
held
a
year
before
the
process
was
qualified
with
BHA
residents,
which
completely
ignored
Charlestown
historic
neighborhoods
organizations,
veteran
groups
and
especially
the
Charlestown
neighborhood
council
community
process
of
open
hearings,
which
has
been
developed
over
the
last
30
years.
The
Big
Dig
process
is
an
example,
in
fact,
for
other
federal
projects
that
we
have
held
here
in
Charlestown.
P
This
Bunker
Hill
development
is
recognized
nationally
as
historic,
federally
protected,
battleground
property
and
the
process
for
design
and
discovery
should
be
proper,
transparent
and
follow
the
guidelines
for
Historic
Preservation
and
contemporary
interpretive
park.
Restoration,
which
could
include
everyone
open
space,
is
partial.
If
not
50%,
of
this
particular
project,
which
could
be
used
on
the
outside
of
properly
design
with
Row
housing,
Charlestown
is
filled
with
row.
Housing
I
could
go
on.
I
have
at
least
eight
minutes
of
comments
on
this
particular
issue.
P
Well,
I
ask
one
question:
when
I
might
expect
the
national
parks
historic
battlefield
preservation
report
to
be
given
to
the
public
so
that
they
can
so
any
designer
can
say
this
is
where
the
battle
happened.
This
is
where
the
bridges
stood.
This
is
where
the
British
died.
This
is
where
we
want
to
put
row
housing.
This
is
where
we
want
to
put
regular
housing.
I
proposed
a
22
story
project
last
June
22nd
along
you
know,
I
93,
so
that
you
could
unite
public
housing
and
education
and
don't
have
the
historic
battlefield.
P
Thankfully,
I
think
this
process
is
flawed.
It's
not
transparent
at
all.
It
hasn't
included
Charlestown
residence
or
Historical.
Society
Charlestown
is
the
oldest
oldest
community
of
Massachusetts
Bay.
It
is
the
beginning
of
the
US
Army.
First
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
happened
here,
and
yet
man
died
on
this.
Thank.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
testimony
and
then
just
again
to
repeat
what
I
had
stated
earlier,
that
there
will
be
a
talk,
will
have
a
community
gathering
about
the
Community,
Preservation,
Act
and
specific
dollars
that
we
will
be
able
to
allocate
or
apply
for
in
order
to
protect
our
very
sacred
history.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
I
certainly
will
be
inviting
you
to
that.
I
have
a
name,
I
can
barely
read,
I
have
two
more
people
and
then,
unless
someone
else
wanted
to
sign
up,
we
were
gonna.
Have
some
closing
remarks.
A
AB
AB
A
A
N
Hi
good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Jennifer
Edward
I'm
a
year
resident
of
the
Charlestown
eha
with
development
I'm,
a
mom
and
I'm
also
the
treasurer
for
the
Charlestown
resident
Alliance.
But
at
this
moment
right
now,
I
just
speak
as
a
concerned
resident
of
the
BHA
I
appreciate
everyone's
concerns,
as
well
as
objective
I
want
to
say
objection
to
the
redevelopment,
but
as
a
current
resident
I
see
it
it's
more
an
objection
because
of
so
much
of
the
circumstances,
it's
not
just
livable
is
literally
affecting
our
health
and
I'm.
N
Just
you
know,
appealing
to
everyone
as
one
human
being
to
another,
not
just
as
a
Charlestown
resident.
That
I
feel
that
should
be
more
addressed,
as
opposed
to
some
of
the
objections
and
the
concerns.
As
far
as
like
a
density,
those
are
things
that
we
can
always
come
to
a
compromise
on,
but
to
a
person's
health
living
in
a
mold
or
having
all
these
things
literally
in
your
environment.
That
is
breaking
you
down
day
by
day.
N
A
AC
AC
Kelly
so
hi
everyone,
my
name
is
John
tehrani,
I'm,
Ashley,
Tsar's,
older
brother,
but
I've
recently
moved
to
Charles
Town
2015.
I
bought
a
condominium
on
Salem
Street
I've
lived
in
Boston
over
the
last
ten
years
in
various
areas,
Austin
for
quite
a
number
of
years.
The
North
End
for
quite
a
number
of
years,
I
moved
a
little
over
a
little
while
and
then
came
back.
AC
I
came
back
because
I
love,
Boston,
I,
love
this
city
and
I
never
want
to
leave
this
city
right,
there's
so
much
that
it
has
to
offer
to
everyone
ranging
from
ages
myself
as
a
young
person.
I
have
a
wife
and
I
want
to
have
a
family
and
I'd
like
to
raise
a
family
here.
I
think
that's
actually
a
pretty
big
problem
that
the
city
as
a
whole
has
is
that
people
that
are
of
my
age
and
wanting
to
start
families
leave
and
they
have
families
in
other
other
towns.
AC
AC
If
I
were
to
go,
move
I
couldn't
even
I,
probably
couldn't
buy
my
place
now
right,
and
so
what
does
that
leave
me
to
do?
I
got
to
go
to
Marlborough.
I
got
to
go
somewhere
else
right,
but
why
is
that
housing
price
and
you're
skyrocketing?
Why
will
becoming
New
York
City
because
there's
not
enough
inventory
and
it's
not
even
and
this
I
know
this
is
supposed
to
be
about
one
Charlestown,
but
it's
kind
of
about
the
entire
Boston
Market
and
there's
just
there's
nowhere
for
people
to
go
to
just
buy
something.
AC
That's
of
a
reasonable
price
and
I
understand.
Why
there's
so
many
objections
to
the
issues
related
to
increased
housing
here,
because
I
see
it
every
day
when
I
try
to
come
home
from
work,
you
come
into
Sullivan's
square.
You
want
to
go
over
the
bridge
in
the
North
End,
that's
insane
in
the
morning
when
you
come
down.
AC
AC
If
I
want
to
have
a
family
I'm
in
a
one-bedroom
right
now,
I
can't
really
have
a
kid
in
honest:
I
put
them
in
my
living
room
and
if
that
happens
well,
then
I
have
to
move
and
I
don't
want
to
move,
and
so
that's
I
think
that's
something
that
everyone
should
be.
Considering
too,
is
that
it's
I
haven't
lived
here
for
40
years.
Maybe
I
would
like
to,
though
so.
K
U
Hello,
my
name
is
Maya
Davis
I'm,
the
vice
president.
The
CRA
I've
been
living
in
Charlestown
for
almost
six
and
a
half
years
and
I'm
I
mean
I,
don't
have
the
best
apartment
but
I'm
grateful
for
what
I
do
have
I'm
blessed,
maybe
in
a
predicament
that
I'm
here
Boston
Housing
has
gave
me
an
opportunity
to
go
to
school.
You
know
I'm
in
the
process
of
becoming
a
lawyer
one
day.
So
you
know
I
owe
a
lot
of
stuff
to
the
PHA
and
even
I'm
Corcoran
for
helping
me.
U
You
know
decided
me
to
make
that
movement
just
for
seeing
how
housing
works
and
I
even
quit
my
job,
because
I
was
an
IT
of
the
computer
technician
so
even
now
into
our
project
management.
So
just
learning
a
lot
of
stuff
about
housing
and
all
that
type
of
stuff
I'm,
just
like
I'm
I'm,
ready
gonna
for
them
to
knock
those
buildings
down
and
just
to
build
up
and
literally
just
literally
become
one
literally
become
one
charlestown,
because
you
know
we
have
our
event.
N
AD
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
for
you
guys
doing
this.
A
being
honest,
my
name
is
Jeff
phenyl
over
in
Pearl
Street
I
thought
it
was
coming
here
tonight
to
hear
a
plan.
The
reality
is
I.
Wouldn't
touch
this
thing
with
a
ten-foot
pole.
There's
there
is
no
plan.
I,
don't
know
how
many
units
there
are
I,
don't
know
what
it's
gonna
cost
I,
don't
know
where
it's
gonna
go.
I
haven't
heard
that
Boston
water
is
involved,
I
haven't
heard
the
Boston
powers
involved,
I've
heard
the
MBTA
is
involved.
AD
I
haven't
heard
anything
that
makes
this
thing
make
sense
from
the
word
go
and
I
honestly,
don't
doubt
for
a
second
that
there
are
eleven
hundred
and
ten
units
that
people
are
not
happy
with
that
most
likely
are
making
them
sick.
That
life
isn't
good.
This
is
like
big
big
times,
ten
there's.
No,
no!
No
disrespect
and
I
understand.
This
is
a
government.
You
know
project.
AD
There's
no
I
haven't
found
the
leadership
here.
Yet
I
haven't
found
a
plan.
I
haven't
found
anything
where's.
The
data
I'm
looking
for
an
impact
study
I'm
looking
for
any,
but
you
can't
do
an
impact
study
because
we
don't
know
how
many
rooms
that's
gonna,
be
just
there's.
Well,
okay,
what's
the
retail,
we
don't
know
what
the
retail
is.
Gonna
be
I
haven't
heard.
Yet
even
somebody
come
up
saying:
well,
it's
all
rental.
AD
Can
one
person
rent
five
of
these
and
then
just
start
jacking
up
the
rent
so
that
it's
never
gonna
be
what's
the
plan
like?
Are
there
gonna
be
more
of
these
meetings
to
bring
this
thing
out?
Cuz
sticking
a
shovel
in
the
ground
in
nineteen.
This
is
the
mud
ducks
in
the
room.
You
got
a
duck,
an
elephant,
a
panda
everything.
AD
A
But
also
processed,
which
is
I,
think
a
lot
of
what
this
this
hearing
was
about
process
and
how
we
got
here,
but
also
we
have
some
deadlines
about
when
they're
designated
and
then
I
believe.
After
that,
the
planning
does
begin
and
the
open
process
of
that
planning
and
how
a
lot
of
your
questions
will
be
answered
in
that
in
that
process
as
well.
So
did
I
summarized
that
correctly,
yeah.
O
We
had
a
delay
because
we
had
to
change
our
partner,
so
we
haven't
been
out
in
the
community
for
several
months,
but
once
we
go
through
this
redesignate
process,
we'll
be
back
at
it
again
and
there
is
a
plan.
So
we
have
a
plan.
It's
on
the
BPD,
a
website.
The
plan
on
the
website
isn't
the
plan.
We're
going
to
do.
There's
been
comments
by
the
community.
O
A
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
so
much
for
coming
sticking
it
out.
We
had
I
think
a
really
good
hearing,
a
mud
of
many
conversations
to
be
had
on
this
in
this
process.
I
want
to
thank
especially
the
CRA
and
the
folks
from
VHA
for
coming
out
and
sticking
out
here
and
really
shedding
perspectives
of
all
different
sighs.
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
coming,
testifying
and
being
here.
Thank
you
so
much
Anissa
for
coming
and
staying
and
Tim
Mischel.