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Docket #0167 - Hearing regarding the fiscal year 2020 Boston Public Schools transportation budget
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Dabble
this
hearing
of
the
boston
city
council's
ways
and
means
committee
to
order
for
the
record,
my
name
is
kenzie
bach,
I'm
the
district,
eight
city
councillor
and
also
the
chair
of
the
council's
ways
and
means
committee.
This
public
hearing
is
being
recorded,
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being
live
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A
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket0167
order
for
a
hearing
regarding
the
fiscal
year:
2020,
boston,
public
schools,
transportation
budget,
I'm
joined
here
today
by
the
lead,
sponsor
counselor,
isabe
george,
and
also
in
order
of
arrival
by
counselor,
ed
flynn.
Sorry
counselor,
sabi,
george
at
large
councilor,
ed
flynn,
district,
two
councilor
liz,
braden
district,
nine
councillor,
andrea
campbell
district
4
and
councillor
ricardo
arroyo,
district
5.,
we'll
be
hearing
today
from
angela
zhang,
the
assistant
director
of
finance
operations
for
bps
transportation,
and
also
from
de
la
verne
stanislaus,
the
bps
transportation
director.
A
This
is
a
hearing
I'll
go
to
the
lead
sponsor
in
a
moment,
but
it's
a
hearing
that
we
also
had
last
year
and
I
think,
as
folks
know,
transportation
and
the
transportation
budget
as
a
portion
of
the
bps
budget,
is
a
continuing
challenge
for
the
city
and
something
that
we
on
the
council
have
long
looked
to
kind
of
control
and
bring
down.
So
that's
sort
of
the
spirit
of
this.
Today
I
will
I
I
will
go.
A
Oh
and
I
see,
we've
also
been
joined
by
councillor
michael
flaherty
at
large,
and
we
are
expecting
some
public
testimony
later
from
representative
nicole
gardo,
our
state
representative,
representing
jp
and
mission
hill
in
my
district,
oh,
and
welcome
to
counselor
julian
mejia
as
well
counselor
at
large.
So
I
think
I'm
going
to
go
right
now
to
the
lead,
sponsor
counselor,
asabi
george
and
then
I
think
we'll
go
to
the
to
the
presentation.
A
D
You
very
much
madam
chair.
Prior
to
the
pandemic,
we
saw
the
cost
of
the
bps
transportation
department
continue
to
grow
year
after
year.
In
many
years
there
were
cost
overruns
that
were
not
budgeted
for
as
well.
We
started
holding
this
hearing
as
a
mid
fiscal
year
checkup.
We
on
the
council
needed
to
to
better
understand
why
approximately
one
tenth
of
the
bps
budget
goes
to
the
transportation
department.
D
Prior
to
the
pandemic,
we
were
very
excitedly
on
track
to
begin
to
see
some
cost
savings,
as
the
rate
of
the
department's
cost
increases
year
to
year,
began
to
slow.
However,
the
last
time
we
held
this
hearing
was
in
february
of
last
year,
when
very
few
of
us
had
any
idea
of
how
2020
would
actually
go.
I
know
that
there's
cares,
act
and
sr
funds
that
have
greatly
impacted
the
bps
budget
overall
and
that
just
last
night,
president
biden
signs
the
latest
stimulus
package.
D
A
C
C
Starting
this
past
spring,
the
transportation
team
began,
transforming
every
element
of
our
operation
to
be
more
flexible,
responsive
and
safe.
This
presentation
will
go
through
the
service
changes
and
the
costs
associated
with
the
covet
pandemic.
Today,
over
the
past
few
weeks,
deci
released
new
guidelines
for
buses
and
reopening
schools
requiring
another
set
of
significant
changes
to
transportation.
C
C
C
C
C
D
C
At
our
bus
yards
and
on
buses
and
we've
implemented
significant
measures
to
ensure
staff
and
student
safety,
approximately
300
plus
employees
are
moving
in
and
out
of
each
of
our
three
bus
yards
daily
because
of
the
new
social
distance
and
guidelines.
The
transportation
vendor
have
to
reconfigure
the
bus
yet
to
ensure
employee
safety,
all
internal
operations
for
drivers
and
bus
monitors
have
moved
outdoors
into
outdoor
tents,
with
tent
heaters
for
inclement
weather
vendors
were
hired
to
infect
buses
and
all
internal
high-touch
areas
twice
daily.
C
C
C
C
C
However,
all
of
this
also
meant
that
when
the
drivers
bid
on
routes
in
september,
they
were
bidding
on
routes
which
may
not
have
yet
been
active
or
which
may
not
have
had
many
students
riding.
Yet
drivers
were
compensated
for
full
routes
once
they
were
scheduled
and
even
if
the
work
hadn't
yet
started,
or
during
times
when
the
routes
were
turned
off
again,
this
was
necessary
in
order
to
preserve
flexibility
and
adaptability
as
school.
Reopening
timelines
changed.
C
C
C
C
For
example,
we
see
an
increase
in
yellow
bus
transportation
services,
central
office,
seasonal
customer
service,
reps
and
a
decrease
in
bus,
monitor
services,
homeless,
ccf
transportation,
mbta
pass
services,
bus
purchases
and
insurance.
These
increases
and
decreases
will
be
explained
in
the
flowing
section
of
the
presentation.
B
Thanks
dell,
at
this
point
now
that
dell
has
gone
over
how
the
pandemic
has
affected
service
delivery
by
transportation.
I'm
going
to
cover
how
these
service
changes
flowed
through
the
transportation
operating
expenses,
we'll
start
with
an
overview
of
fy20
and
fy21
total
spend
impact
and
then
go
through
deep
dives
on
the
major
categories
of
spending.
B
First,
looking
at
fiscal
year,
20
last
fiscal
year,
the
final
spend
came
in
at
1.7
percent
over
budget
highlights
here
include
increases
in
yellow
bus
transportation
costs
and
in
bus
monitor
costs.
These
increases
were
partially
offset
by
decreases
in
students
in
transition,
service
costs
and
mbta
costs.
At
the
end
of
last
year,.
B
Moving
on
to
this
fiscal
year,
we
are
projecting
to
end
in
line
with
the
budget
as
covid
related
increases
are
offset
by
cost.
Savings
highlights
include,
decreases
in
typical,
yellow
bus
transportation
costs
and
in
bus
monitor
costs,
as
well
as
decreases
in
students
in
transition
service
costs
and
in
mbta
costs.
B
B
B
B
However,
this
meant
that
the
payroll
cost
coming
out
of
the
september
bid
was
much
closer
to
a
typical
year
than
one
might
expect
because
of
the
bps
policy.
So
far
of
staying
fully
remote,
wednesdays
and
students
opting
for
remote
learning,
we
have
seen
a
net
15
percent
decrease
in
wage
costs.
So
far
we
anticipate
wage
costs
to
increase,
however,
over
the
remainder
of
the
school
year
as
more
routes
are
scheduled.
B
B
An
example
of
personnel
who
still
needed
to
stay
indoors
are
our
mechanics,
who
needed
more
room
between
them
during
daily
work
on
the
vehicles.
Another
example
of
rooms
that
needed
expansion
were
the
bathrooms
at
the
bus
yards.
Other
public
health
costs
to
highlight
include
intercom
systems
and
electronic
signage
to
communicate
effectively
with
personnel
who
were
outdoors.
B
B
This
next
deep
dive
is
on
bus,
monitor,
impacts
in
fy
20
bus
monitors
were
paid
post-closure
at
the
payroll
rate
immediately
before
bps
went
remote,
as
I
believe
was
mentioned
in
the
last
budget.
Hearing
a
year
ago,
we
were
on
track
to
be
over
budget
on
this
line
before
the
pandemic
hit,
as
we
had
better
hiring
and
coverage
that
year,
compared
to
previous
years
in
fy
21,
we
had
originally
planned
to
target
provision
of
one
monitor
per
bus
to
enforce
public
health
standards.
B
B
Moving
on
to
the
customer
service
team
who
answers
family
and
school
staff,
transportation,
stool,
school
staff,
questions
on
transportation
issues,
this
is
a
significantly
smaller
cost
line
compared
to
the
ones
we
just
discussed.
However,
in
both
years
we
did
experience
overages
last
year
at
80k,
and
this
year
at
40k
last
year,
customer
service
representatives
or
csrs
were
also
made
whole
as
part
of
the
city's
guidance
during
the
pandemic
period.
As
part
of
this
bps
transportation
did
not
reduce
seasonal
customer
service
staff.
B
B
we've
also
had
some
increased
staffing
over
the
reopenings
to
enable
rapid
communications
and
strong
customer
service
for
families.
Through
this
challenging
time
now
I
want
to
talk
briefly
about
transportation
services
across
district
boundary
lines
for
students
in
transition,
both
students
experiencing
homelessness
and
students
in
the
care
of
the
state.
B
We
have
seen
significant
decreases
in
service
utilization
by
this
group
of
students
across
both
fiscal
years.
Last
year
after
bps
went
fully
remote
in
march,
this
service
stopped
for
the
rest
of
the
school
year
beginning
in
may,
however,
bps
did
hire
vendors
to
drop
off
meals
to
families
experiencing
homelessness
who
needed
them.
This
continues
through
the
present
this
year.
We
have
also
seen
reduced
costs,
because
students
have
had
fewer
opportunities
to
attend
school
in
person.
B
That
said,
we've
seen
the
total
number
of
students
in
transition
go
up
about
10
percent
so
far
this
year,
even
though
they
may
not
have
used
transportation
services.
We
expect
both
the
number
of
students
in
transition
and
those
who
use
to
transportation
services
to
continue
to
increase
over
the
remainder
of
this
school
year.
B
C
B
C
E
C
C
D
A
D
Thank
you
very
much
for
that.
A
couple
of
questions
just
from
the
presentation
today
is
there
any
flexibility
for
children
if
they're
shifting
or
if
they
need
to
shift
their
in-person
days
around
transportation?
What's
that
look
like
and
then
also
related
to
that
question,
if
we
do
shift
to
either
four
days
or
five
days
full
time
over
the
coming
weeks
and
months,
how
will
that
process
also
work?
C
Thank
you
for
that
question.
Counselor
sabi
george
I'll
state
again
stated
in
the
presentation.
Our
team
has
to
remain
very
flexible
during
this
time.
We
have
worked
on
different
ways
where
we
can
be
flexible.
If
students
are
changing
cohorts,
we
have
been
able
so
far
to
accommodate
those
changes.
We've
built
some
systems
in
place.
One
example
of
that
is
like
year
over
year,
we've
routed
in
one
database.
We've
developed
two
different
databases
where
we
route,
where
we've
been
routing
students
this
year.
C
D
Great
thank
you
for
that.
So
just
some
other
sort
of
more
general
conversations
around
or
questions
around
the
transportation
budget.
Last
year,
bps
hired
mr
terzer
michael
terzer
as
a
consultant
to
specifically
look
at
the
work
of
the
transportation
department.
My
understanding
is
he's
no
longer
with
us.
I'm
curious
about
recommendations
he
made
and
what
the
outcomes
were
of
that
review
and
sort
of
audit,
and
I
guess
analysis
of
the
transportation
department
and
is
there
a
report
available
to
share.
B
Thanks
for
that
question,
counselor
I'll
have
to
check
back
on
the
report
piece.
I
I
don't
know
that.
I
know
that
question
right
now
answer
to
that
question
right
now,
but
what
I
will
say
is
we're
very
grateful
for
the
work
that
mr
terzer
did
and
at
the
time
his
main
focus
was
on
on
time,
performance
and
improvements
there,
and,
as
dell
mentioned,
that
has
been
a
huge
focus
of
ours,
a
huge
focus
of
the
superintendents,
and
so
we
have
benefited
from
many
of
his
ideas.
B
He
one
of
his
ideas
was
to
actually
interact
more
frequently
in
a
more
metric
based
way
with
the
operator
with
transdev,
and
so
that
would
be
an
example
of
a
place
where
we
have
pushed
forward
on
working
through
ideas
that
we
had
spoken
to
him
about.
I
would
also
I
will
also
say
that
there
were
some
ideas
that
we
did
have
to
place
on
hold
when
things
happened,
and
I
think
some
of
it
is.
B
D
Yes,
let's,
let's
please
hope
for
that
and
then
my
last
question
just
for
this
round,
and
I
have
a
few
others
I'll
save
for
later.
Many
of
our
families,
maybe
are
looking
forward
to
sending
their
children
back
to
school
and
feel
comfortable
with
going
back
to
school,
but
maybe
uncomfortable
with
using
our
yellow
school
buses
for
a
number
of
different
reasons
and
long-term
effort
has
been
the
safe
routes
to
school
design
and
conversation
around
school
communities.
C
Thank
you
for
that
question.
Counselor
isabe
george.
Our
team
is
currently
actively
working
on
a
proposal
to
the
superintendent
on
how
we
can
have
sorry
do
like
walking
school
buses,
so
we're
working
with
new
urban
mechanics,
we're
working
with
some
of
our
district
partners
and
some
of
our
community
partners
on
on
developing
a
proposal
for
students
like
walk,
safer
routes
to
schools
with
our
students
and
also
including
the
boston
police
department.
C
D
A
C
Thank
you
for
that
question.
Counselor
flynn.
Our
team
has
continued
to
remain
flexible
in
order
to
support
all
of
our
families,
especially
our
families,
our
high
in
person,
families,
our
students
with
special
needs,
even
when
the
district
shut
down
our
auto
district
special
education
program
that
provides
services
to
our
highest
needs,
students
with
significant
disabilities
in
the
district,
our
department
remained
open.
Bus
drivers
continue
driving
and
monitors
continue
to
be
present
for
those
students
and
to
support
those
students
and
families,
and
we
are
as
different
as
different.
C
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
answer
and
I
guess
my
final
question
is.
I
often
I
admire
the
people,
the
bus
monitors
and
the
bus
drivers
that
that
drive
our
children
to
school.
I
especially
admire
the
people
that
help
the
special
needs:
children
when
they
get
off
the
bus.
I'm
just
I'm
just
thinking
out
loud.
F
Do
we
have
enough
of
those
staff
that
helped
the
special
needs
students
getting
off
the
bus?
I
I
see
some
of
the
people
that
from
the
school
that
come
out
and
help,
but
some
of
them
are
older
too,
and
they're
they're
moving
wheelchairs.
But
again
I
have
great
respect
for
them,
but
do
we
have
do
we
have
enough
of
them
enough
of
those
workers
and
if
we
don't
I'd
really
like
to
advocate
for
them
in
the
upcoming
in
the
upcoming
budget,
because
they're
really
the
really
unsung
heroes
in
our
city.
C
Thank
you
for
that
consular
flynn.
So,
to
be
quite
honest,
one
of
the
areas
we've
struggled
with
hiring
and
is
is
in
our
bus,
monitor
line
of
work.
We've
really
struggled.
We've
done
a
lot
of
outreach,
currently
we're
working
on
hiring
over
100
bus
monitors.
We're
consistent
that
can
that
position
remains
open.
We're
consistently
like
strengthening
our
hiring
efforts,
canvassing
trying
to
find
folks
to
ride
buses
with
our
students.
C
However,
it
continues
to
be
a
struggle
because
of
like
some
of
the
structure
of
the
work,
the
timing
of
how
the
work
is
timed
we
continue
to
that,
continues
to
be
a
struggle,
but
our
team
continues
to
double
down,
continues
to
look
at
different
ways
and
means
of
trying
to
get
people
in
to
support
these
students.
Over
over
the
past
couple
months,
we
were
able
to
hire
approximately
50
bus
monitors
and
not
that
hiring
process
continues.
Till
this
day,.
F
Thank
you,
councillor
bark,
thank
you,
council
edwards,
and
thank
you
to
the
bps
team
for
the
great
work
you're
doing
and
if
I
could
advocate,
if
there
was
some
city
employee
that
deserved
a
pay
raise,
especially
during
this
difficult
time.
It
is
our
bus
monitor.
So
maybe
we
take
that
back
to
the
bps
team
and
you
know
down
the
road
we'll
see
if
we
can
get
these
guys
a
pay
raise
okay,.
F
F
G
You,
madam
chair,
I
really
didn't
have
many
questions.
Thank
you
to
all
the
the
folks
who
made
such
a
thorough
presentation.
There's
a
lot
of
really
good
information
in
there.
One
question
I
had
was
about
out
of
district
students
who
travel
special
needs
students
out
of
district.
I
understand
that
their
school
program
continued
sort
of
full
time
or
I
I
just
wondered
how
many
students
were
involved
in
that
and
were
they
going?
Was
it
a
hybrid
model
or
was
it
full
full
day
from
a
full
week.
B
So
I
think
what
I
would
say
is
that
it's,
the
out
of
district
proportion
in
terms
of
how
many
routes
that
we
run
every
day
has
certainly
been
significant.
This
year,
more
significant,
they
did
run
during
the
remote
periods.
So
I
think
just
as
a
starting
point,
I
don't
know
if
delve,
if
you
were,
you
have
more
numbers,
but
I
will
say
that
it
certainly
has
been
running
they're
all
different
and
they've
been
all
changing.
So
it's
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
generalize.
Unfortunately,.
C
Yeah,
unfortunately,
I
don't
have
the
exact
numbers,
I'm
with
me
right
now,
but
I
we
can
definitely
get
that
number
to
you
con
celebratin.
One
of
the
things
that
you
asked
is
if
about
the
hybrid
schedule,
so
the
the
like
angela
stated
they
all
the
all
of
these
schools
have
been
running
on
multiple
different
hybrid
schedules,
so
it's
been
quite
the
puzzle
to
try
to
push
mesh
together
into
the
entire
operation.
C
G
A
H
You
counselor
bach,
it's
great
to
see
you
again
from
our
early
hearing
and,
of
course
thank
you
to
counselor
sabi
george
for
continuing
to
file
a
hearing
order
on
this
particular
topic,
and
thank
you
both
to
deleverne
and
angela
for
the
thorough
presentation
and,
of
course,
for
the
hard
work
you
guys
continue
to
do
to
try
to
rein
in
costs
but
at
the
same
time
make
sure
that
our
our
family's
children
are,
of
course,
being
transported
safely.
I
just
have,
I
guess,
a
few
questions.
H
One
is
similar
to
council
braden's
point
which
we
can
get
later
on,
which
is
the
number
of
students
that
are
being
transported
that
sort
of
drives
us.
This
cost
right,
particularly
folks
around
our
district.
Just
an
update
on
those
numbers
would
be
great,
and
you
know,
obviously,
in
the
midst
of
coven,
we've
had
remote
learning,
so
there
was
an
expectation
that
the
savings
in
transportation
actually
would
be
a
lot
more
than
they
currently
are.
H
So
it's
great
to
see
that
frankly,
fy21
is,
I
think
we
projected
or
budgeted
for
one
third
131
million
and
now
we're
at
130.
It
looks
like
right,
which
is
great,
but
at
the
same
time
since
I've
been
on
the
council,
the
transportation
budget
has
only
gone
up.
It's
it's
never
gone
down
and
it's
just
not
sustainable.
I
think
that's
the
point
that
every
council
has
been
lifting
up
since
I
joined
the
council.
H
Our
kids,
particularly
our
special
needs,
kids
well,
who
require
it
but
also
cut
down
the
cost.
You
know
what
do
those
scenarios
look
like?
Have
we
done
that
for
years,
I've
pushed
the
city
to
do
a
study.
Even
you
know
of
you
know
it
could
cost
us
80
million
to
deliver
this.
If
we
use
these
type
of
services,
it
could
cost
us
a
hundred
million
if
we
use
the
tea
and
some
buses
and
biking
and
walking
right
whatever
it
is.
H
B
Thank
you,
councillor
campbell,
I'm
going
to
touch
on
both
and
then
give
deleverne
an
opportunity
to
answer
as
well.
The
first
question
you
asked
is
clearly
very
near
and
dear
to
my
heart
on
the
finance
side
of
things.
I
actually
want
to
answer
it
by
referring
back
to
something
that
counselor
bach
mentioned
at
the
last
hearing.
B
I
wasn't
present
at
the
last
hearing,
but
I
did
watch
the
video,
which
is
around
benchmarking
and
understanding
better,
how
we
compare
to
other
districts
who
have
a
lot
of
choice,
and
I
think
this
is
something
where
I
think
where
we're
hoping
to
go
with
it.
We've
started
and
we've
started
talking
to
some
districts
as
well.
But
what
we're
hoping
to
understand
is
it's
a
puzzle.
You
know
if
you
increase
the
wax
zone,
if
you
have
an
opt-in
system
versus
an
opt-out
system,
if
you,
you
know
transport
out
district,
a
certain
way.
B
All
of
these
things,
it's
a
puzzle
and
understanding.
I
think
we're
hoping
to
understand
what
is
the
cost
that
we
incur?
How
does
it
compare
to
other
districts?
Who
do
also
do
those
aspects
of
things,
and
then
I
think,
hopefully,
from
there
have
a
more
nuanced
conversation
as
a
district
with
the
rest
of
the
district
leadership
about
whether
or
not
we
want
to
spend
our
funds
on
those
things
that
we
are
gaining
so
like
having
more
transportation
and
a
smaller
walk
zone
versus
you
know
the
opposite.
B
Having
an
opt-in
system
versus
an
opt-out
system,
there
are
always
trade-offs
and
there
are
reasons
why
we
have
the
policies
we
have.
But
what
I
can
say
is
just
from
the
initial
benchmarking
we're
looking
at.
I
can
tell
you
that
other
districts,
we
looked
at
denver,
new
york
city,
new
orleans,
recovery,
chicago
and
and
some
others.
B
They
like
us,
have
aspects
where
they're
kind
of
like
more
generous
and
aspects
where
they
are
less
generous.
I'm
looking
at
the
list
right
now
and
it's
basically
like
a
mix,
but
I
will
say
we
are
more
generous
on
almost
every
dimension
that
we've
surveyed
so
far,
which
is
not
necessarily
a
bad
thing,
but
it's
something
to
kind
of
look
at
a
little
bit.
More
can.
B
B
A
number
of
other
districts
do
have
one
mile
cut-offs
similar
to
us.
Some
have
two
mile
cut-offs,
which
would
be
more
cost
savings.
Opt-In,
opt-out
is
another
example
where,
if
you
have
an
opt-in,
opt-in
model,
then
you
have
fewer,
you
know
sort
of
empty
buses,
but
is
it
equitable?
Can
we
do
it
in
a
way
that
is
equitable?
So
I
think
we're
starting
to
think
about
all
of
that
and
also
kind
of
have
conversations
with
other
districts
about
it
to
inform
this.
B
The
other
thing
that
we're
doing,
which
is
separate
but
in
parallel,
is,
I
think,
hearkening
to
what
you're
saying
also
about
just
our
our
budget
and
how
it
hard
it
has
been
to
control
costs.
One
of
the
things
we've
been
thinking
about
a
lot
is:
how
do
we
actually
estimate
cost
savings
from
the
proposals
that
we
have,
and
so
this
is
work
that
we're
just
launching.
B
I
do
want
to
be
transparent
about
that,
but
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
thinking
about
is
just
the
structure
of
how
the
costs
flow
this
through
the
system,
proposals
typically
come
in
the
form
of
changing
riders,
like
so
at
the
student
level
or
changing
bell
times,
but
the
costs
flow
through
in
three
kind
of
tiers
of
fixed
costs.
So
you
have
the
fixed
cost
of
the
bus
route.
B
You
have
the
fixed
cost
of
the
bus
itself,
so
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
understand
is
how
to
navigate
that
and
figure
out
better
ways
to
trade
off
against
the
different
cost
cost
savings
proposals
both
in
terms
of
prioritization,
but
also
in
the
hope
that
when
we
have
those
investments
in
our
sorry
reductions
in
the
in
the
future,
we
can
give
something.
That's
more
practical
and
realistic.
H
H
A
A
I
Sorry,
hello:
there
we
go
yes
great,
my
goodness
there
was
another
sound
coming
out
of
my
phone
and
I
wasn't
sure.
Can
you
hear
me,
okay,
yeah.
We
can
hear
you
great
now,
okay,
great,
so
I
guess
thank
you
so
much
for
that
presentation.
You
know.
Transportation
is
always
a
big
hot
button
issue
and
I
do
appreciate
counselor
sabe
george
for
bringing
it
to
the
forefront.
I'm
curious
you
earlier
you
talked
about
school
bus
routes.
Out
of
out
of
the
district,
can
you
can
you
explain?
I
C
I
B
B
However,
we
do
seek
reimbursement
through
medicaid,
it's
actually
the
reimbursement
channel,
and
I
believe
that
some
of
that
reimbursement
is
attributed
to
students
who
are
going
out
of
the
district
just
to
add.
Also
one
point
to
that
is:
we
do
also
transport
another
group
of
students
across
district
lines
and
those
would
be
students
in
transition
and
those
in
those
cases.
B
Sometimes
there
are
cost-sharing
agreements
with
other
districts
again,
that's
very
situational,
and
those
are
what
I
would
say
is
those
are
very
different
and
separate
from
the
out
of
district
transportation
for
students
with
special
education.
The
other
thing
is,
I
know
this
came
up
before
from
two
counselors,
but
our
team
was
able
to
let
us
know
that
there
are
200
students
who
are
out
of
district
students.
Writing
right
now.
I
C
I
But
is
it
possible,
when
you're
planning
to
cluster
up
the
students
more
effectively,
like
I
mean
that's,
probably
near
to
impossible,
because
all
the
schools
start
at
different
times
right?
There's
all
of
these
needs.
Look,
I'm
sure
you
guys
have
tried
every
single
little
option
that
there
is
to
cost.
I
You
know
to
save
money,
but
I
do
think
that
that
the
district
and
some
of
your
partners
need
to
start
thinking
about
this
as
an
integrated
like
everybody
needs
to
really
think
about
how
we
work
together,
because
otherwise
it's
this
push
and
pull
and
everybody's
pointing
fingers.
That's
to
oh,
it's
this
and
that.
But
I
just
think
that
at
some
point
you
all
need
to
have
a
come
to
jesus
conversation
with
the
district
and
figuring
in
some
of
your
external
partners
and
figuring
out.
I
C
Yep,
our
team
continues
the
hard
work
of
looking
at
ways
to
optimize
our
transportation
system,
especially
in
times
where,
like
traffic
in
boston,
has
gotten
worse.
Over
the
past
couple
of
years,
we've
seen
some
struggles
there,
but
our
team
continues
to
look
at
innovative
ways
to
continue
to
optimize
our
system
and
we'll
continue
that
work
consistently,
because
getting
money
back
into
the
classroom
for
our
students
is
most
important.
I
A
B
A
E
E
E
I
have
had
issues
with
in
my
district
and
a
lot
of
my
colleagues
have
really
discussed
all
sorts
of
aspects
of
transportation
and
the
in
the
budget
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
I'm
going
to
pull
back
and
ask
you
kind
of
a
question
about
lessons
learned
from
this
moment,
because
I
don't
doubt
that
this
is
going
to
be
one
the
first
pandemic
or
two
that
this
pandemic
won't
come
back
or
three
that
we're
gonna
have
to
adjust
again.
E
E
Why
didn't
we
use
those
things
and
when
I
spoke
with
brenda
in
full
transparency
like,
why
aren't
we
being
as
creative
as
possible,
if
not
for
all
of
our
kids,
then
for
those
with
special
needs
so
that
those
kids
could
have
continued
their
education
and
and
retrofitted
I
mean
a
hockey.
Rink
has
ventilation.
It
has
a
lot
of
different
things
and
it's
used
for
all
sorts
of
things
in
north
end.
You
want
to
go
to
a
convention
for
food.
You
want
to
do
the
north.
E
You
know
first
night,
you
might
do
anything
you
can
go
to
the
hockey
ring
because
you
just
put
the
carpet
down
so
on
and
so
forth.
Now
I
know
I
have
an
abundance
of
hockey
rinks.
I
have
I'm
an
embarrassment
of
riches.
I
think
I
have
two
in
charlestown,
one
in
east
boston
and
one
in
the
north,
and
then
not
everybody
has
that.
But
we
do
have
city
facilities
that
could
have
been
retrofitted,
and
so
the
response
that
I
understood
was
we
didn't,
have
the
we
couldn't
figure
out
the
bussing
for
it.
E
That
was
my
interest
to
the
responses.
We
couldn't
figure
out
the
bus
schedules
or
couldn't
figure
out
how
to
get
the
kids
all
around
there
in
order
to
do
kind
of
social
distance
mass
education
sites,
and
so
is
that
true,
is
that
why
we
didn't
ultimately
think
of
be
as
creative
as
possibly
possible
at
the
facilities?
E
If
it's
not
true
or
if
I'm
incomplete
and
misunderstood,
I'm
not
trying
to
throw
anyone
under
the
bus.
Will
you
come
up
with
a
plan
going
forward
that
involves
the
busing
for
mass
education,
social
distance
sites,
so
that
when
this
comes
back
and
it
will-
and
let's
say
we
have
to
take
a
week
and
say
we
need
to
clean
up
all
of
our
schools
or
we
need
to
do
certain
things
or
we
need
to
respond
very
quickly
to
a
crisis
and
cannot
go
the
regular
routes?
C
School,
thank
you
for
asking
that
question.
So
our
team
continues,
especially
throughout
the
pandemic,
has
continued
to
be
flexible
and
also
build
out
new
systems,
and,
as
you
asked
about
lessons
learned,
I
know
as
the
director
of
transportation
right.
One
of
the
lessons
learned
during
the
pandemic
is
that,
like
we
have
to
continuously
look
for
ways
to
be
flexible
to
refine
our
systems
and
our
approach
to
transportation,
especially
when
we're
thinking
about
trans
transporting
students
our
highest
need
students
ensuring
that
access
to
education
is
equitable
across
the
district.
E
B
B
Should
I
say
that,
but
I
think
what
I
was
thinking
about
and
I
would
say
I
would
name
one
challenge-
that
we
are
working
on-
that
we
need
to
continue
to
work
on
that
affects
this
and
then
to
your
point
on
plans
like
how
we
can
do
this
going
forward.
So
I
think
that
on
the
planning
side
to
start
with,
that
is
we
do
transport
students
to
non-school
locations.
So
the
best
example
of
this
is
actually
alternative
stops
for
students
who
go
to
different
facilities
or
different
places
for
after-school
care.
B
So
I
just
want
to
say
it's
not
impossible
for
sure
for
us
to
transport
kids
to
other
facilities,
so
just
want
to
make
that
point.
However,
this
brings
us
back
to
why
it
can
be
really
hard
and-
and
the
reason
is
that
we
have
issues
which
I
will
tell
you-
we're
still
working
on
structural
issues
around
timing.
B
E
So
I
know
my
time
is
up
very
soon
or
is
already
up,
but
I
just
want
to
I
wanted
to
put
this
in
in
terms
of
the
planning
perspective
right
so
again,
because
we,
we
are
still
learning
lessons.
Okay,
this
is
not
a
you
guys
did
something
bad
all
right.
This
is
a
what
lessons
can
we
take
so
that
the
next
time
this
happens?
Okay,
so
one
thing
I
think
we
could
look
at
is
how
we
reopened
or
what's
what
students
we
prioritize
in
terms
of
age
and
population?
Why
is
that
important?
E
If
you
have
people
in
category
a
which
are
young
kids
who
are
high,
needs
right?
Category
b
could
be
just
young
kids,
and
so,
whatever
the
destiny
puts
as
our
list,
you
have
eight
category
a
b
c
and
d.
I
think
what
would
help
is,
if
bps
had
the
number
of
each
category
of
those
students
there's
five
thousand
and
a
there's,
five
thousand
and
b
there's
16,
000
and
c
all
the
way
down
to
the
high
school
students,
which
seemed
to
be
the
lowest
priority
in
terms
of
bringing
back
to
school.
Okay.
E
If
you
have
then
that
number,
then
again,
this
is
people
just
pull
back
you're
in
a
vacuum
being
able
to
plan.
Then
you
are
in
category
a
parent
you've
just
registered
your
student.
They
will
be
on
a
normal
bus
to
do
blah,
blah
scheduling
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
That's
wonderful,
but
in
the
in
the
event
that
there
is
a
pandemic
or
for
some
reason
we
need
to
alternate
where
your
child
is
educated.
E
E
I'm
only
suggesting
that
because
I
just
I
just
think
the
biggest
question
I
got
from
my
parents
was
why
the
hell
not
it's
right
there,
it's
open,
it
works
and
it
was
like
it's
primer
house,
and
it
was
just
the
frustration
that
I'm
I'm
I'm
hope.
I'm
I
just
a
lot
of
us
receive
and
again
I
didn't
mean
to
co-op
this
counselor
sabe
george.
E
I
thought
this
was
part
of
the
conversation
of
of
your
regular
thing,
and
maybe
you
know,
maybe
maybe
if
you,
if
you
think
it's
too
much
to
win
the
weeds,
we
can
maybe
think
of
an
alternative
hearing
just
for
transportation
and
pandemic.
But
I
did
I
don't
mean
to
harp
on
this
or
to
make
you
feel
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
You
did
something
wrong.
I
just
want
us
to
be
able
to
already
be
doing
lessons
learned.
That's
all
that's
it
for
me
great.
A
One
of
the
things
we
frequently
talk
about
is
the
fact
that
not
only
do
we
have
a
lot
of
yellow
buses
that
are
running
well
under
capacity,
but
also
they
are
idling
and
emitting
fumes
in
many
of
our
you
know,
environmental
justice
neighborhoods
right.
So
this
is
like
a
kind
of
critical
double
issue
for
us,
and
I'm
wondering
where
we
are
on
the
electrification
of
the
fleet
for
councilor
campbell.
B
So,
just
to
start
us
off,
thank
you
for
the
question.
We
were
anticipating
it.
What
I
would
say
is
we're
actually
actively
working
with
bill
coughlin
at
the
city
on
understanding
what
it
would
mean
to
do
an
ev
pilot,
so
this
is
active
work.
We're
doing
bill
is
the
fleet
director
for
the
city
of
boston
and
he
has
15
evs
in
service
last.
I
spoke
to
him
and
eight
more
coming
in
we're.
B
B
Is
this
the
right
timing,
because
we
want
to
do
a
pilot
with
the
buses
that
we
would
be
using,
and
there
are
kind
of
considerations
around
range
considerations
about
charging
and
all
of
that,
so
we
are
working
through
some
of
that
and
it's
one
of
the
questions
that
we
want
to
ask
the
other
districts
about
as
well
they're.
I
believe
that
there
was
in
in
one
location,
not
school
bus,
but
a
different
type
of
bus
that
did
have
some
sort
of
trouble
with
their
ev.
B
So
I
think
we
would
like
to
just
really
make
sure
before
we
put
our
students
on
one
but
just
to
finish
there.
I
think
we're
very,
very
interested
and
we're
building
it
into
kind
of
active
conversations
around
our
fleet
replacement.
For
I
mean
fingers
crossed.
You
know
asap,
but
we'll
see
how
it
goes.
B
It's
a
good
question.
What
I
would
say
is
I
at
a
minimum
we
would
need
to
have
another
round
of
discussions
with
some
of
the
folks
I
named,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
because
I
frankly
I
am
not
an
ev
expert,
so
I
think
one
of
the
things
we've
been
doing
is
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
folks
who
do
have
the
expertise
are
evaluating
the
different
types
of
vehicles
we
could
buy
in
some
of
that
of
those
specifics.
A
Great
yeah,
no,
I
just
would
underscore
that
I
think,
on
all
things
kind
of
climate
related
that
we're
looking
to
go
from
sort
of
plans
and
aspirations,
which
is
something
the
city
has
extensively
to
kind
of.
You
know
the
stepwise
functions
for
how
we
get
there,
and
this
is
one
of
those
things,
so
it
was
great.
B
A
And
so
I
just
I
wonder
if
you
could
give
us
an
update
on
where
that
contract
is
at
and
what
our
prospects
of
kind
of
actually
releasing
a
new
rfp
are
for
a
longer
period
of
time,
and
whether
there
are
things
that
we've
learned
during
the
pandemic,
where
it
could
have
been
useful
to
have
contract
flexibilities
that
we
didn't
have
that
we
could
fix
in
a
new
rfp.
Where
are
we
on
all
that?.
B
B
So
what
I
would
say
is,
like
you
know,
you
know
not
kind
of
saying
what
exactly
is
going
to
happen
this
year
or
next
year,
but
I
think
we
think
this
is
really
important,
we're
actively
working
on
it,
and
I
think
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
next
time
we
go
out
with
go
out
for
a
bid
and
go
through
this.
We're
really
thinking
about
this
in
a
long-term
way,
because
I
think
it
will
be
something
we'll
be
kind
of
using
for
a
while.
A
Great
well
that's
great
to
hear,
and
yes
I
won't.
I
won't
dig
too
much
in
further
into
the
contracting
details.
I
I
mean
I
I
think
I
should
underscore
what
counselor
campbell
said,
which
is
like
it's
great
to
it's
great,
to
hear
your
team
thinking
so
capaciously
about
this
challenge
and
it's
just
clear
that
you
guys
have
been
doing
a
ton
of
work
on
it
and
that
was,
and
the
presentation
you
gave
us
was
one
of
the
more
detailed
and
helpful
ones
that
we've
seen.
A
So
I
just
really
want
to
appreciate
all
your
work
and
so
don't
take
my
I
you
know
I'm
always
in
means
chair.
So
don't
take
my
questions
as
as
a
hostile.
I
I
think
you
guys
are
doing
a
great
job,
but
but
I
guess
the
a
follow-up
question
for
me,
because
I
think
I've
got
like
another
minute
and
then
I'm
gonna
pass
it
to
the
second
round
for
the
sponsor.
But
the.
A
B
I'll
start
from
a
cost
perspective.
What
I
would
say
is
this
is
something
that
we've
been
discussing
with
the
bps
finance
team
for
the
purposes
of
this
coming
year.
We
are
planning
for
hopefully,
as
you
said,
the
students
to
come
back,
but
I
think
that
the
issue
itself
of
the
declining
enrollment
is
is
certainly
timely,
and
you
know
actually
one
that
there
was
a
down,
has
been
a
downward
trend
in
any
case.
B
B
B
You
know,
and
what
we've
seen
previously
with
smaller
amounts
of
declining
enrollment
is
that
a
lot
of
the
kids
are
corner
students
and
there's
somebody
else
at
the
bus
stop,
and
so
when
they
leave
the
system,
we
still
run
the
exact
same
route,
but
once
you
drop
enough
students
out
of
the
system,
then
you
start
removing
door-to-door
students.
You
start
removing
corner
stops
because
everybody
at
the
corner
stop
is
gone,
but
I
think
this
is
actually
a
little
bit
more
of
a
modeling
issue
and
I
will
say
transparently.
C
And
I
think
counselor
to
your
point
as
well,
when
looking
at
the
decline
in
bps
enrollment.
I
think
that
we
also
look
at
to
your
point
like
charter
school
enrollment
and
also
our
private
school
enrollment,
because
these
are
schools
that
the
boston,
public
schools,
transportation
department
is
obligated
to
transport
to
as
well.
A
Right
right,
that
makes
sense
to
me:
it's
not
necessarily
a
it's
a
more
complicated
formula,
yeah
all
right,
great
I'll
end.
My
questions
there,
since
the
timer
went
off
on
me
and
go
for
a
second
round
to
counselor,
asabi
george
and
then
any
other
any
other
counselors
who
have
some
follow-up
questions.
Counselors.
C
These
are
some
of
the
the
areas
that
we've
doubled
down
on
another
area
is
our
proactive
communication
and
also
proactively,
proactively
working
cross-functionally
with
some
of
our
other
internal
partners.
Here
at
bps
communication
was
a
big
thing
that
we've
heard
from
the
council
from
parents
and
families
last
year,
counselor
campbell.
I
think
I
don't
remember
one
of
the
counselors.
I
think
it
was
counselor
campbell
that
brought
it
up
really.
C
Now,
where
families
can
like
go
right
online
and
text
us,
and
instead
of
waiting
on
hold
for
a
customer
service
rep
to
get
to
them.
So
these
are
some
of
the
systems
that
we
have
been
like
refining
internally,
and
it's
been
working
out
very
well
for
parents
and
for
families,
for
students
and
for
our
schools.
C
So
if
a
student
was
to
lo
misplace
an
m7
or
pass
while
pass,
isn't
working,
a
student
can
communicate
right
to
their
school
and
their
school
would
replace
the
m7s
pass
at
any
time
or
they
can
reach
out
to
our
office
again
online
through
our
tech
system.
I'm
on
freshdesk
and
let
us
know
we'll
be
happy
to
support.
They
can
call
our
office.
C
D
I
imagine
with
kids
returning
to
school
and
the
older
kids
starting
to
return
to
school
in
these
next
few
weeks
that
we're
going
to
see
some
real
issues
around
just
getting
getting
m7s
into
the
hands
of
into
the
hands
of
our
kids
and
certainly
lost,
or
they
never
pick
them
up
in
the
fall
and
that
sort
of
stuff.
So
I'm
great
I'm
grateful
for
that.
Thank
you
for
the
the
response,
and
you
mentioned
the
bus
monitors.
I
know
last
school
year
you
know
recovered.
D
C
To
be
very
transparent,
counselor,
that's
problem
has
not
fully
been
solved,
but
our
team
is
actively
working.
I
can
tell
you
right
now,
like
our
team
is
actively
working
and
looking
at
creative
ways
and
to
ensure
that
our
highest
need
students
that
really
need
a
monitor
on
that
on
the
bus
that
we
are
compliant
and
have
a
monitor
available
for
those
students.
Great.
Thank
you.
G
H
I
It's
never
it's
never
the
right
type
of
soul
unless
somebody's
on
you,
and
so
so
sorry
about
that.
No,
I
just
really
wanted
to
thank
you
both
for
the
thorough
presentation.
I
think
that
every
time
I
participate
in
one
of
these
hearings,
I
learned
a
little
bit
more
about
how
difficult
it
has
been
for
you
all
to
juggle
all
of
this,
and
so
I
am
just
incredibly
grateful
and
looking
forward
to
figuring
out
how
we
can
help
support
you
all.
I
I
see
that
counselor
flynn,
if
he's
still
on
he's
on
a
trend,
all
departments
need
more
people
every
every
single
hearing
I've
been
in.
He
wants
more
people,
so
y'all
get
ready
for
this
budget
hearing
season,
because
flynn
is
on
the
rampage
on
advocating
for
more
everywhere
everywhere.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
all.
That's
all.
I
have
to
say
thank
you.
Counselor
and
counselor
sophie
george
for
bringing
us.
A
A
So
what
that
makes
me
wonder
about,
is
I
mean
it
is
sort
of
along
the
lines
of
counselor
flynn's
point,
but
more,
like
you
know,
do
we
need
a
do?
We
need
a
like
not
just
to
sort
of
raise
the
pay
but
to
change
the
structure
of
this
job
like
when
you
say
you
guys
are
looking
at
things
I
mean
you
know.
A
I
guess
one
question
that
I
think
came
up
last
year
was:
the
question
of
you
know
is:
is
there
even
a
way
within
the
iep
model
where
we
could
move
towards
like
kind
of
bus
monitors
on
certain
routes,
but
maybe
not
like
one
per
kid,
but
that
way,
there's
somebody
or,
if
that's
not
like,
is
there
a
way
to
kind
of
group
and
routinize
this
service,
such
that
our
students
are
supported,
but
we're
not
dealing
with
this
kind
of
unpredictability.
I
just
wanted
to
dig
a
little
more
into
that.
C
Thank
you
for
that,
counselor
bach,
with
the
support
of
the
superintendent
and
the
head
of
our
special
education
department,
the
transportation
team
is
getting
ready
to
do
some
like
deep
dive
work
with
some
support
from
schools
and
things
of
that
nature.
To
look
at
different
things.
To
look
at
some
of
the
things
that
you
just
named
and
also
look
at
just
like
the
the
monitors
work
as
a
whole
is
there
is
there
different
ways
we
can
structure
this?
Is
there
different
things
that
we
can
do
to
we're?
C
Looking
at
everything?
To
be
quite
honest,
everything
is
on
the
table
right
now,
and
some
of
this
work
is
going
to
start
rolling
out
very
soon,
like
the
superintendent
has
like
a
very
like
put
her
charge
out
there,
and
this
is
work
that
we're
going
to
be
leaning
in
to
as
soon
as
possible.
Very
very
soon,
it's
quite
eminent.
B
You
know
to
see
if
that
that
behavioral
change
really
happens,
because
the
iep
process
is
centered
around
the
student
and
then
the
second
thing
is
if
we
were
to
move
to
one
monitor
on
every
bus,
because
we
kind
of
really
cost
it
out
this
year.
It
is
very
expensive
and
because
of
the
way,
monitors
are
compensated
right
now,
which
is
per
run.
Half
of
the
runs
per
bus
run.
Half
of
the
runs
prior
to
this
year
had
a
bus
monitor
on
it
already.
B
But
if
we
were
to
go
to
one
monitor
on
everyone,
we'd
be
doubling
the
cost,
so
it
would
be
raising
the
cost,
excluding
benefits
from
10
million
up
to
like
maybe
around
20
million.
That's
not
to
say
that
we
shouldn't
do
it,
but
I
think
it
just
kind
of
I
think,
increases
the
urgency
on
unders
on
kind
of
the
conversations
around
the
structure
of
this,
but
also,
I
think,
provides
a
little
context
on
like
sort
of
the
financial
constraints
we're
in.
A
No,
that's
super
helpful
to
understand
and
then
on
your
when
you
were
talking
about
sort
of
the
the
benchmarking
rubric,
which
was
something
that
I
had
asked
about
last
year
and
I
would
love
to
see
as
counselor
campbell
would
you
know
in
terms
of
the
things
that
we're
more
generous
on
is
it?
I
have
an
impression
that
we
do
more
like
door-to-door
stops
than
most
districts
as
opposed
to
corner,
but
I
don't
know
if
that's
true
or
kind
of
where
we
are
on
the
spectrum.
There.
B
So
that
one
actually,
we
haven't
looked
at
yet,
but
we
can
certainly
add
that
to
the
list,
I
think
just
to
put
it
out
there.
I
think
I
because
the
door-to-door
accommodation
also
does
come
through
the
iep
process.
We
actually
originally
didn't
include
that,
because
it
again
is
very
student-centered,
so
it's
it's.
Actually.
I
think
I
would
say
one
of
the
one
of
the
levers.
I
guess,
which
is
not
really
one
that
we
can
directly
control
because
it
just
comes
out
of
this
individualized
process.
So
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is.
A
A
A
But
I
just
I
wonder,
because
of
the
notes
in
the
presentation
about
about
cost
drivers
that
are
going
to
go
up
as
we
get
all
of
our
kids
back
into
school,
whether
the
130
and
kind
of
coming
in
at
least
just
slightly
under
budget
for
this
year.
Whether
that's
factoring
in
the
increases
that
we
expect
to
see
in
the
next
two
months
or
if,
when
all
is
said
and
done
on
june,
30th
you're
actually
projecting
that
you're
going
to
run
over
that
budget.
B
B
B
So
the
easiest
way
to
see
this
is
we
are
in
this
goes
through
january,
because
we
pegged
it
to
the
last
budget
adjustment
that
was
presented
at
school
committee
unless
there
was
a
big
change,
but
you
can
see,
for
example,
in
homeless
ccf.
The
actuals
through
january
were
very
low.
We
were
coming
in
around
1
million,
but
we
were
projecting
to
actually
spend
4
million
through
the
end
of
the
year.
B
So
we
projected
based
on
what
we
believed
the
increase
would
be-
and
I
should
say
we're
already
seeing
increases
month
by
month
on
the
bus
monitor
line,
in
particular
as
more
school.
More
students
have
been
coming
back
in
and
and
all
of
that,
but
I
I
would
still
say,
though,
that
counselor
your
question
is
a
good
one,
because
what
this
hasn't
directly
kind
of
we
haven't
really
taken
a
direct
lens
looking
at
the
april
deci
mandates
in
considering
all
of
this.
A
A
This
is
not
your
fault
or
context,
but
we
had
a
hearing
this
morning
which
implied
that
our
police
well
stated
that
our
police
department's
going
to
be
15
million
over
what
was
budgeted
so
sort
of
the
question
of
like
where
are
we
on
just
like
overages
budget
like
fy
21
budget
y
is
on
my
mind,
and
I
guess
the
one
other
question
related
to
that
is
this
whole
transportation
budget
framework
you've
presented
to
us
as
kind
of
net
net
within
the
bps
budget.
Some
of
the
increase
items
have
to
do
with
covet
precautions.
A
A
100
reimbursable
and
I
know,
there's
been
a
hold
up
at
the
state
around
those
things,
but
I
I
still
would
love
to
understand
like
is
there
any
chance
on
the
on
the
good
news
side
that
in
a
couple
of
months
you
know
you'll
be
back
and
say
well,
our
transportation
for
april
may
june
went
up
counselor
by
a
couple
of
million,
but
we
did
get
this
20
million
dollars
reimbursed
from
fema.
I
mean
what
should
I
expect
on
that
front.
B
So
what
I
would
say
is
we
are,
as
you
mentioned,
tracking
the
covaid
related
costs,
as
we
go
through
the
year
closely
and
we're
working
with
the
finance
division
within
bps
to
understand
when
and
if
carriers
and
esr
funds
will
need
to
be
used.
So
this
is
a
discussion
that
we're
having
with
the
finance
team
but
to
your
point,
we're
very
carefully
tracking
all
of
it
as
we
go
along.
A
Okay,
yeah,
I
would
just
really
want
us
to
be
as
aggressive
about
applying
for
fema
reimbursement
on
these
fronts
as
we
possibly
could
and
not
you
know,
and
obviously,
and
the
fema
funds
I
think,
have
the
potential
to
be
kind
of
like
additional
to
the
cares
act.
Money
right
that
we're
talking
about
in
programming,
so
yeah
would
just
love
to
flag
that
as
a
thing.
A
We
would
need
levers
wise
that
we
didn't
build
into
the
last
one
and-
and
we
can
update
it
for
this
one,
but
there
will
still
be
unanticipated
changes
and
such,
and
so
just
you
know,
really
wanting
when
we
rfp
a
contract
for
a
while.
That's
our
opportunity
to
really
tailor
it
and
part
of
tailoring
it
is
giving
ourselves
optionality
too.
A
So
I
would
just
flag
a
hope
on
that
front,
but
I
do
really
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
the
like,
really
really
sophisticated
and
professional
presentation
and
work
today,
and
this
is
a
I
mean
frankly,
this
is
a
very
large
portion
of
our
of
our
school
budget,
so
it's
good
to
know
that
you're
working
so
diligently
on
it.
So
I
appreciate
that
counselor
asabi
george
before
I
before
I
dismiss
everybody.
Would
you
like
to
say
any
final
words.
I.
D
I
get
just
again
a
round
of
thanks
to
the
two
of
you
for
pulling
together
that
presentation
for
us.
It
certainly
does
inform
inform
us
a
great
deal
on
that
budget
piece
as
council
brock
mentioned,
and
it
really
does
help
us
prepare
better
for
the
upcoming
budget
cycle.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
again
and
I
thank
you
for
your
continued
commitment
to
this
work.
I
know
it
hasn't
been
an
easy
year
for
sure.
Thanks
thanks,
madam
chair.