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From YouTube: Committee on Government Operations on March 31, 2022
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Docket #0188 - Ordinance preventing wage theft in the City of Boston
A
Committee
on
government
operations-
it
is
thursday
march
31st
2022,
and
we
are
here
today
for
a
virtual
hearing
on
docket
0188,
an
ordinance
preventing
wage
theft
in
the
city
of
boston,
referred
to
the
committee
on
january
26
2022.
I
sponsor
this
proposal
along
with
council
julia
mejia
in
accordance
with
chapter
22,
the
acts
of
2022
modifying
certain
requirements
of
the
open
meeting
law
and
relieving
public
bodies
of
certain
requirements,
including
the
requirements
that
public
bodies
conduct
its
meetings
in
a
public
place
that
is
open
and
physically
accessible
to
the
public.
A
The
city
council
will
be
conducting
this
hearing
virtually
via
zoom
and
is
being
recorded.
This
enables
the
city
to
council
to
carry
out
its
responsibilities,
will
adhere
into
public
health
accommodations
and
ensuring
public
access
to
its
deliberations
through
adequate
alternative
means.
The
public
may
watch
this
hearing
via
live
stream
at
www.boston.gov
city
council
tv
and
on
xfinity
8
rcn
82,
verizon
964.
A
A
And
will
be
made
a
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors
public
testimony
will
be
taken
at
the
end
of
this
hearing.
This
morning,
I'm
joined
by
my
council
colleagues,
counselor
julie,
mejia
and
councillor
kenzie
bach.
We
are
joined
by
members
of
the
administration
today,
director
trenton
yen
from
the
office
of
workforce
development
and
deputy
director
caitlyn
gossett
from
the
office
of
workforce
compliance.
A
We
are
also
joined
by
advocates
and
union
representatives,
audrey
richardson
from
greater
boston,
legal
services,
the
employment
law
unit,
chris
soares,
from
the
national
atlantic
states,
regional
council
of
carpenters,
darlene
lombos
from
the
greater
boston,
labor
council
and
jamie
mcneill,
from
unite
here.
Local
26..
A
This
ordinance
would
allow
the
city
to
leverage
municipal
tools
in
order
to
prevent
wage
step
practices
in
the
city
of
boston.
It
would
apply
to
all
city
contractors
and
organizations
within
with
municipal
construction
contracts,
building
permits
and
licenses,
and
specifically,
this
ordinance
is
seeking
to
hold
not
just
contractors
but
also
subcontractors
accountable
for
their
employment
practices.
A
These
ordinance
would
also
create
a
wage
that
committee
in
order
to
review,
which
complaints
and
provide
recommendations
to
the
mayor
and
city
council
on
implementation
and
effective
effectiveness
of
this
ordinance.
Finally,
the
ordinance
would
also
establish
a
formal
wage
death
complaint
process
in
coordination
with
corporation
counseling
attorney
general's
office.
I
think
that
everyone
at
this
hearing
is
in
support
of
the
goal
of
preventing
wage
debt,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
overlooking
any
issues
at
the
legislation
and
that
this
legislation
ends
up
being
the
best
version
possible
when
passed.
A
I'd
also
like
to
note
that
the
committee
has
received
a
letter
from
the
attorney
general's
office,
which
stated
that
while
they
have
no
position
on
this
ordinance,
they
believe
that
there
is
a
role
for
municipalities
to
play
in
ensuring
that
all
workers
are
fairly
compensated.
That
letter
was
sent
out
to
all
councillors
prior
to
this
hearing
and
will
be
included
as
part
of
the
record
public
record.
A
I'd
now
like
to
kick
this
over
to
my
co-sponsor
council
mejia
for
some
opening
remarks,
followed
by
my
council
colleagues,
in
order
of
arrival,
councilor
bach
is
here
with
us
today.
As
well
and
so
councilman
mejia,
you
have
the
floor.
B
Thank
you,
councillor
arroyo,
for
sharing
this
hearing
and
for
bringing
us
on
as
one
of
the
co-sponsors
wage
theft
is
a
real
problem
that
our
office
knows
well.
Employees
in
our
office
have
had
their
wages
illegally
garnished
by
previous
employers
with
in
a
few
places
and
if
any,
to
turn
to
us
for
resolution
and
when
we're
talking
about
this
ordinance,
it's
not
like
this
is
a
far
away
issue.
Everyone
in
the
zoo
knows
somebody
who
has
experienced
wage
theft
as
the
daughter
of
a
mother
who
was
undocumented
for
a
period
of
time.
B
I
know
that
this
issue
is
severe
amongst
the
immigrant
community,
particularly
the
undocumented
community.
I
see
this
as
financial
abuse.
I
look
forward
to
this
hearing,
not
only
because
this
this
ordinance
is
incredibly
important,
but
because
I
know
that
this
ordinance
isn't
perfect
yet,
and
we
need
to
learn
from.
B
B
So
now
it's
up
to
us
to
come
together
and
and
work
collaboratively
so
that
we
can
find
the
right
solution,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
the
carpenters
union
for
working
in
deep
partnership
with
our
offices
to
get
us
to
this
point.
Thank
you
again
to
the
league
sponsor
for
your
leadership
in
this
space,
both
as
a
lawyer
and
as
a
city,
councilor
member,
you
have
been
on
the
front
lines
on
all
things
that
deal
with
equity.
So
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
thank
you.
Everyone
for
being
here
today.
A
Thank
you,
councilman
mejia,
councilor
bach.
The
floor
is
yours.
C
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
to
you
and
counselor
mejia
for
sponsoring
this
and
to
the
carpenters
for
all
their
work,
and
it's
great
to
see
so
many
labor
leaders
on
the
call
today.
I
just
want
to
say
that
this
is
so
important
and
I'm
so
glad
not
just
that.
We
were
talking
about
this
about
passing
an
ordinance,
but
that,
frankly,
we're
having
this
conversation
at
all.
C
I
think,
if
you
compare
how
often
in
our
society
we're
talking
about
shoplifting
and
petty
theft
and
how
frankly
infrequently
we're
talking
about
the
theft
of
people's
labor
their
time,
which
is,
I
think,
just
it's
a
shocking
thing
that
it's
as
prevalent
as
it
is
in
our
society
and
that
it's
it's
a
crime
that
is
committed
by
those
with
a
lot
of
money
against
those
who
have
very
little
and
and
so
for
me.
C
It
just
feels
like
one
of
the
like
main
things
that
government
can
and
should
be
doing
and
like
a
really
key
role
for
local
government
when
it
comes
to
our
big,
deep,
pocketed
corporate
actors-
and
I
just
think
that
you
know
on
the
like.
C
It
would
be
great
if
we
had
stronger
laws
on
this
at
the
federal
state
level,
but
even
when
we
do
have
laws
at
those
levels,
it's
often
really
at
our
local
level
that
the
abuses
become
apparent
and
that
we
actually
see
things
that
don't
look
right
and
we
kind
of
notice
that
there
are
job
sites
that
don't
seem
to
reflect
who's
supposedly
being
employed
there.
C
And
so
I
think
you
know
it
really
is
at
this
local
level
that
we
have
the
opportunity
to
be
a
real
ally
to
the
worker
and-
and
I
think
you
know,
wage
theft
is
it's
appropriately
named.
The
reality
is,
is
that,
if
you're
not
being
paid
for
your
labor,
it's
it's
forced
on
paid
labor
and
that's
something
that's
illegal
according
to
our
constitution,
so
really
glad
to
be
here
today
and
grateful
to
you
all
for
sponsoring
and
to
all
the
union
leadership
who
are
here
to
testify.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
bach,
and
I
will
just
say
some
brief
things
really
quickly.
I
think
this
is
important
to
get
past
and
I
what
I
would
like
to
do
with
this
sort
of
vehicle
of
this
ordinance
is
in
partnership
with
the
carpenters
union
and
other
unions.
A
What
methods
are
available
to
us
as
a
city,
we
have
stop
work,
orders
for
contractors,
I'd
like
to
have
something
similar
for
organizations
that
are
habitual
offenders
of
this,
and
I
would
also
just
say
that
wage
theft
is
insidious
in
and
of
itself.
A
But
what
we
also
know
is
that
folks,
who
conduct
wage
steps,
those
sorts
of
contractors
and
subcontractors
when
they're
doing
that
they're,
usually
also
the
first
ones
to
cut
corners
on
worker
safety,
the
ones
to
make
folks
who
are
injured
on
the
job
pay,
their
own
expenses
or
not
report
their
injuries.
And
so
dealing
with
this
is
a
is
a
priority.
For
me.
A
It
should
be
a
priority
for
the
city,
I
believe
it
will
be,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
our
first
panel,
which
will
be
the
administration
here,
represented
by
director
trent
yan
from
office
of
workforce
development
and
deputy
director
caitlin
gossett
from
the
office
of
workforce,
workforce
compliance
as
well
as
audrey
richardson
from
the
greater
boston
legal
services,
employment
law
unit
and
so
to
be
clear.
A
This
is
a
hearing
to
sort
of
talk
about
what
we
could
do,
what
we
should
do
why
we
should
do
this,
but
I'm
also
open
to
hearing
concerns
about
language
or
things
where
folks
would
like
to
either
strengthen
the
language
or
fine-tune
the
language.
So
there's
not
unforeseen
consequences
so
that
we
can
take
that
into
the
working
session
as
well,
and
that's
that's
for
both
panels.
A
A
D
Great,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
counselor.
Thank
you.
Councillor
arroyo,
chair
committee
of
government
operations
and
co-sponsor
of
this
important
wage
theft
ordinance.
I
also
like
to
thank
you
councillor,
mejia,
chair
of
the
labor
and
workforce
development
and
economic
development.
Both
of
you
are
very
good
colleagues
in
this
work,
so
I'm
very
proud
to
be
in
alliance
with
you,
counselor
arroyo.
I
used
to
work
with
your
dad
way
back
in
the
day.
D
That's
how
old
I
am
my
friends
and
I'd
like
to
thank
all
the
counselors
who
are
here
as
well
and
and
the
advocates
community
partners
and
presenters
who
have
been
doing
this
work
for
quite
some
time.
They
really
are
the
pioneers
of
this
work.
D
D
To
to
present,
and
also
to
let
you
know,
of
our
work,
I'm
also
joined
by
our
staff,
kathleen
gossett,
our
new
deputy
director
of
labor
compliance
for
office
of
workforce
development.
As
you
all
know,
my
name
is
trinwyn.
I'm
the
director
of
owd
I've
been
in
this
role
for
eight
years
and
prior
to
this
role,
I
had
the
pleasure
of
serving
as
the
chief
of
staff
at
the
boston
housing
authority
under
former
mayor
menino.
D
To
this
end,
owd
funds
and
overseas
programs,
and
provide
boston
residents
with
skills,
training,
job
search
assistance,
education
such
as
adult
basic
education,
esl
and
post-secondary
education,
financial,
coaching
for
credit
building,
tax
health
and
other
economic
supports
for
low-wage
workers.
More
information
can
be
found
on
our
website
and
while
skills,
training
and
career
pathways
for
boston
residents
is
a
priority
for
the
city
and
for
owd
it's
not.
It's
only
one
important
portion
of
the
equation
on
equity
to
truly
tackle
the
inequities
of
the
labor
market.
D
We
must
also
support
quality
jobs
that
provides
family,
sustaining
wages
and
employer-sponsored
benefits,
career
mobility
and
worker
protection,
with
progressive
legislation
and
laws.
So
it's
not
just
about
skills
training,
it's
about
working
with
employers
to
improve
the
jobs
that
our
workers
get
options
for,
and
for
these
reasons,
even
when
owd
is
limited
in
our
capacity,
we
are
prioritizing
labor
compliance
for
the
city.
D
The
purpose
of
this
directive
was
to
combat
wage
theft,
the
unlawful
non-payment
of
wages
in
accordance
with
state
and
federal
wage
and
hour
loss.
The
executive
order
also
provides
that
those
vendors
with
prior
violations
may
be
required
to
post
a
wage
bond
in
the
amount
equal
to
the
sum
of
one
year's
gross
wages
for
all
employees.
The
executive
order
became
effective
on
january,
the
1st
2015.
D
in
recent
years.
As
you
already
know,
wage
theft
has
had
an
incredibly
increasing
detrimental
impact
on
local
state
and
national
economies,
especially
in
the
last
two
years
during
the
pandemic,
and
while
wage
theft
occurs
across
professions,
the
construction,
hospitality
and
restaurant
industries
have
shown
to
be
a
hotbed
of
unscrupulous
wage
and
hour
practices
by
employers
and
the
results
of
wage
theft.
Investigations
have
been
alarming
and
just
to
note
that
this
is
not
just
part
of
my
work
and,
like
all
of
you,
it
is
a
personal
piece
for
me,
my
parents.
D
We
came
here
as
a
refugees
and
immigrants
from
saigon
and
my
parents
washed
dishes
for
the
last
30
to
35
years
and
they
loved
it,
but
wage
theft
was
prominent
in
our
families
as
well,
and
it
happened
to
me
when
I
was
a
college
student
working
in
a
restaurant
as
well.
So
these
issues
hit
home
to
all
of
us,
our
brothers
and
sisters
and
our
community
as
well.
D
As
you
know,
the
massachusetts
attorney
general's
fair
labor
division
brought
enforcement
actions
against
140
employers
located
in
boston
and
garnered
1
million
691
thousand
dollars
in
restitution
and
penalties
just
in
2020
and
2021
years
alone.
Now
that's
just
the
documented
ones
that
we
were
able
to
work
with
the
ag's
office
and
also
the
ag
took
a
leadership
in
imagine
all
the
other
millions
of
dollars
that
were
not
on
the
books
and
people
were
afraid
because
they
couldn't
speak
english
or
afraid
of
the
retaliation.
D
So
there's
a
lot
more,
that's
invisible
that
we
don't
know
of
that's
not
written
here
and,
of
course,
you
know
that
the
top
five
industries
that
involved
enforcement
action
by
the
attorney
general's
fair
labor
division,
both
in
2020
and
2021,
includes
the
restaurant
and
hotel,
which
came
in
at
as
the
top
violators
in
that
industry,
services,
staffing,
temp
constructions,
retail
and
sales,
and,
like
I
said,
while
this
is
all
on
the
website
and
at
the
ag's
office.
Now
what
you
see
is
what
was
documented.
D
I
asked
that
you
also
think
about
what
wasn't
documented
so
we're
hearing
a
lot
of
anecdotal
qualitative
complaints
in
the
restaurants
and
specifically
in
the
construction
industry,
and
here
enforcement
for
from
the
ag's
office
can
refer
to
wage
theft,
violations
like
non-payment
of
wages
and
failure
to
pay
overtime.
They
can
also
refer
to
similar
violations
such
as
child
labor
laws
and
failure
to
furnish
payroll
records
for
inspections.
D
A
report
issued
by
the
economic
policy
institute
found
that
this
was
before
2020
just
2017
and
2020.
More
than
3
billion
in
stolen
wages
was
recovered
for
workers
by
the
federal
department
of
labor
and
state
and
local
enforcement
agencies,
and
this
number
includes
state
and
federal
administrative
action
and
private
civil
litigations
as
well.
Now
these
are
stolen
wages.
These
are
not
wages
that
people
were
entitled
to
or
had
privileges
to
they
work
people
worked
to
gain
and
deserve
these
wages.
D
Even
if,
when
we
had
the
thinnest
capacity,
instances
of
wage
theft
will
be
reported
to
the
office
of
workforce
development
and
then
referred
to
the
boston,
licensing
board
and
other
relevant
commissions,
and
the
boston
licensing
board
will
determine
if
the
complaint
warrants
a
hearing,
a
warning
letter
and
or
warning
an
offender's
file
for
future
reference.
A
finding
of
the
violation
may
be
considered
in
the
board's
decision
to
issue
renew
or
revoke
a
license
on
behalf
of
owd.
D
I'm
pleased
to
work
with
such
an
energized
movement
from
the
city
council
and
mayor
wu's
administration
on
this
topic,
one
that
we
deeply
care
about.
So
I
would
be
honored
to
listen
and
to
learn
how
the
city
can
play
a
more
essential
role
in
enforcing
wage
theft
throughout
the
city.
Thank
you
for
listening
and
I
look
forward
to
your
questions
and
responses.
A
Thank
you
director.
In
the
end,
I
believe
we're
now
going
to
go
to
audrey
richardson
from
the
great
boss
legal
services.
E
There
are
simply
too
many
employers
out
there
who
don't
comply
with
our
most
basic
workplace
protections,
the
minimum
wage
overtime,
pay
or
who
simply
engage
in
outright
non-payment
of
wages.
This
is
an
important
that
is
a
problem
that
is
important
to
address
on
as
many
levels,
and
it
is
in
as
many
ways
as
possible,
so
a
city
ordinance
that
takes
a
clear
stance
and
addresses.
It
is
something
that
all
of
these
groups
applaud
and
very,
very
much
appreciate.
E
The
city
of
boston,
has
taken
a
very
clear
and
very
much
appreciated
stance
supporting
all
who
live
and
work
in
our
midst,
even
if
the
complete
and
utter
failure
on
the
federal
level
to
achieve
immigration.
Reform
has
left
some
of
our
friends
and
neighbors
in
limbo,
and
potentially
vulnerable
to
exploitative
or
abusive
employers.
E
There's
really
some
relatively
narrow
language
changes
that
would
address
these
concerns
so
gbls
on
behalf
of
the
groups
that
we
represent,
and
perhaps
some
of
those
groups
directly
may
be
interested
in
becoming
involved
directly
as
well.
We're
all
happy
to
follow
up
to
work
with
the
council
on
the
kind
of
nitty-gritty
of
the
specific
details.
E
So
again,
I
just
very
much
want
to
thank
you
and
emphasize
our
support
and
appreciation,
and
thank
you
for
your
consideration.
A
Thank
you
so
much
attorney
richardson,
I'm
now
going
to
turn
it
over
to
our
counselors
for
questions.
I
just
want
to
note
that
we've
been
joined
by
councillor
russian
and
councillor
brian
worrell,
and
so
we'll
go
in
order
of
arrival,
starting
with
counselor
julia
mejia.
A
Ahead,
yes,
are
you,
are
you
ready,
councilman.
B
Yes,
sorry,
I
was
having
some
technical
difficulties,
so
I
just
have
a
few
questions
for
the
administration.
Do
we
currently
have
a
list
of
any
so
or
any
sort
of
database?
You
know
on
the
dashboard,
queen
of
any
persistent,
persistent
bad
actors
who
are
participating
in
wage
step.
It
would
just
be
great
to
kind
of
have
that
data
and
what
kinds
of
communication
do
we
already
have
with
the
attorney
general's
office
and
then
to
trin?
I'm
just
I'm
curious.
B
How
do
you
see
the
wage
theft
advisory
committee
proposed
in
this
ordinance,
working
in
collaboration
with
other
committees
and
task
force,
currently
working
on
workforce
development?
I'm
thinking
about
the
living
wage
advisory
committee
in
particular,
but
also
others?
So
I'm
just
curious
about
like
how
do
you
see
the
the
collaboration
around
this
work,
and
I
just
wanted
to
thank
attorney
richardson
for
your
testimony
and
holding
us
accountable
to
our
undocumented
loved
ones.
I
think
it
would
be
to
follow
your
recommendations
to
ensure
that
the
rights
of
our
undocumented
workers
are
protected.
B
So
so
thank
you
and
I'm
just
curious
now
that
we're
talking,
I
think,
it's
important
for
us
to
address
some
of
the
language
so
that
we're
not
so
that
we're
removing
harm,
but
I'm
also
wondering
what
can
we
do
to
be
more
proactive
in
uplifting
undocumented
person
in
this
ordinance?
Those
are
three
questions.
A
So
I
think
two
of
those
questions
I
think
were
for
director
nyan
one
for
attorney
richardson.
Is
that
right?
So
then,
let's
start
with
director
new
year
and
then
we'll
go
to
attorney
richardson.
D
Great
thank
you.
Thank
you
kessler
and
thank
you
councillor
mejia
for
that
that
question
it's
it's.
It's
a
lot
to
the
best
of
my
ability.
I'm
gonna
try
to
be
succinct
as
possible
and
then
follow
up
with
additional
materials
and
hearings.
D
Let
give
that
as
a
context,
but
the
biggest
player
here
is
the
ag's
office,
and
so
we
are
on
the
overall
statewide
labor
council
that
meets
quarterly
just
to
talk
about
general
worker
protection
efforts
and
work
and
bills,
and
legislation
and
advocacy
and
collaboration,
but
in
terms
of
wage
theft
in
particular,
we
meet
with
the
ag's
office
once
a
month
so
that
we
can
go
down
the
list
of
these
potential
bad
actors
or
persistent
actors.
D
D
We
can
follow
up
offline
as
well
and
then,
during
our
monthly
meeting
with
the
ag's
office,
we
just
go
down
some
of
the
issues
walk
through
some
of
the
prominent
wage
theft
violations
and
concerns
now,
because
we
don't
have
the
capacity
to
go
through
all
of
them.
What
we
do
is
prioritize,
some
of
the
worse
actors
per
se
or
some
that
are
persistent
and
then
so
that
process
was
before
mayoral
transitions.
D
We
had
a
lag
for
a
year
and
a
half
we're
back
on
track
with
the
ag's
office,
we're
meeting
once
a
month
to
go
through
those
agenda
items
and
then
for
the
city's
perspective.
Once
we
get
those
bad
actors
again
there
are.
D
We
don't
have
the
capacity
to
address
all
of
them,
but
the
two
areas
that
we
have
to
be
strategic
in
that
we've
seen
more
prominent
wage
deficits
in
construction
and
in
hospitality
and
restaurants
and
the
two
areas
that
we
thought
about
in
terms
of
leverage
of
of
compliance
are
the
licensing
boards
and
commissions
and
for
the
construction
is
the
zba
board
which
we
haven't
been
able
to
tap
into
for
a
variety
of
bureaucratic
reasons
and
because
within
construction
we
know
that
developers
want
to
and
need
to
pull
their
occupancy
permit
so
that
they
can
operate.
D
And
if
there's
a
violation,
then
the
zoning
board
then
can
call
a
hearing
to
see
how
that
was
reconciled.
And
so
I
think
those
are
the
levers
for
the
hospitality
and
restaurant.
The
liquor
license,
which
we
thought
was
very
strategic
in
the
leverage,
was
the
other
point
that
we
can
move
more
have
hearings
on.
However,
I
think
there
are
questions
around
the
legal
compliance
that
we
need
to
dig
deeper
and
whether
or
not
the
administration
can
do
more.
D
On
our
end,
it's
something
that
we're
open
and
to
listen
and
to
learn,
but
those
are
the
two
commissions
and
departments
that
we
work
with
or
want
to
work
closely
with
to
do
more
on
wage
theft.
D
Last
I
do
want
to
say
is
that
every
time
when
we
have
ordinances
and
policies
they're
great,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
need
to
operationalize
it,
because
if
we
don't,
we
are
not
using
the
full
potential
of
the
policies
or
ordinances
that
we
really
push
for
and
so
having
resources
and
financial
resources
to
build
out
that
compliance
unit
is
really
important
and
we're
really
stretched
thin
at
the
at
this
point.
But
I
think
that
we
need
to
really
think
about
a
consistent,
strong
compliance
infrastructure,
that's
backed
by
financial
resources.
D
To
do
the
work
that
we
have
to
do,
and
I
I'm
sure
that
I
have
additional
follow-up
questions
which
I
can
do
offline
as
well.
B
Yeah,
no
I
just
want
to
before
we
go
to
the
next
answer.
Just
wanted
to
just
thank
you
for
that
intentionality,
because
you
are
absolutely
right.
We
have
a
lot
of
ordinances
and
and
systems
protocols
and
procedures
in
place,
but
I
think
what
I
have
noticed
in
the
last
28
months
that
I've
been
in
office
is
that
we
don't
have
the
infrastructure
to
really
set
and
implement
and
then
also
evaluate
right.
B
I
think
that
a
lot
of
things
sound
good
in
theory
and
but
then,
when
you
go
into
practice,
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
learn,
what's
working
and
what's
not
and
then
how
we
might
amend
things
so
that
we
can
get
to
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
right.
B
So
I
do
agree
with
you
that
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
in
terms
of
building
the
infrastructure
for
implementation
and
then
accountability
and
reflection,
because
I
think
all
of
this
is
a
work
in
progress
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
like
come
to
terms
with
some
of
the
tweaks
that
we
need
to
make
along
the
way.
So
I
do
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
for
that
attorney.
E
Yes,
I
I
guess,
there's
three
things
I
would
say
in
response
to
your
question.
You
know
the
first
is
basically,
which
was
what
I
was
focusing
on
in
my
original
testimony
was
just
make
sure
that
where
there's
you
know
the
do
no
harm
component
of
it
and
just
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
unintended
or
inadvertent
consequences
in
terms
of
providing
tools
that
employers
could
potentially
use
to
retaliate
or
to
otherwise
evade
the
consequences
of
of
the
their
non-compliance
with
the
law
around
wage
theft.
E
So
that's
number
one
number
two
in
terms
of
more
proactive
pieces,
so
I
think
just
making
sure
that
there's
opportunities
for
other
voices
to
be
heard
and
making
sure
that
you
know,
presumably
through
the
wage,
that
the
advisory
committee
that
it's
structured
and
inclusive
so
as
to
make
sure
that
immigrant
groups,
perspectives
and
voices
are
are
being
heard
in
the
conversations
right
now.
It's
it
means
a
very
small
committee.
E
There's
obviously
disadvantages
to
a
committee
like
that,
getting
very
large
and
unwieldy,
but
there's
probably
ways
to
do
it,
both
through
the
formal
structure
of
the
advisory
committee
itself
and
otherwise,
and
then
the
third
piece.
I
would
say
which
really
goes
beyond.
I
think
what
we've
already
been
talking
about
here,
but
is
very
much
a
very
active
conversation
on
the
federal
level
and
is
a
real
present.
E
A
real
opportunity
is
to
be
looking
at
ways
that
the
city
can
be
providing
and
supporting
affirmative
relief
for
workers
who
come
forward,
who
not
do
who
do
not
have
work
authorization
or
are
in
work.
You
know
documented
status,
there's
already
all
the
mechanisms
between
with
the?
U
and
t
visa
certification
processes,
the?
U
visa,
being
a
visa,
that's
available
to
victims
of
crime.
E
It
was
originally
used
predominantly
in
the
domestic
violence
context,
but
has
really
been
used
quite
a
lot
and
is
really
being
fleshed
out
to
be
used
in
the
context
of
labor-related
crimes
and
and
certainly
some
some
some
places
in
the
city,
like
the
boston
police
department,
already
provide
certification.
E
For
you
know
the
kinds
of
crimes
that
are
within
its
purview,
but
there
is
really
an
opportunity
for
labor
related
agencies,
as
the
ag's
office
on
the
state
level
and
the
u.s
department
of
labor
on
the
federal
level
have
done
to
provide
these
certifications.
E
That
will
allow
workers
to
file
file
petitions
to
get
visas,
and
you
know
green
cards
etc
down
the
road.
E
So
there's
that,
but
also
what's
happening,
is
that
there
are
very
active
conversations
on
the
federal
level
about
what
even
more
labor-related
agencies
and
governments
can
do
to
really
support
workers
who
come
forward
and
to
affirmatively,
protect
them.
E
And
so
that
was
the
thrust
of
the
memo
that
secretary
mark
mayorkas
put
out
to
the
other
labor-related
agencies
to
put
forward
proposals
for
how
the
department
of
homeland
security
and
the
labor
agencies
can
really
affirmatively
protect
workers
and
support,
worksite,
workplace
rights
enforcement,
and
so
there
are
opportunities
to
provide
support
for
things
like
deferred
action.
E
That
would
provide
much
prompter
work,
authorization
and
relief
than
things
like
the.
U
and
tv
set
can
provide.
I
didn't
mention
the
key
is
actually
for
victims
of
trafficking,
and
that
includes
labor-related
trafficking,
as
well
as
things
like
sex
trafficking.
So
this
is
all
very
much
an
active,
an
active
conversation
and
project
to
really
put
the
procedures
and
policies
in
place
with
the
federal
agencies,
as
I
said,
but
there
are
already
opportunities
just
to
do
it.
A
Thank
you,
councilman
counselor
bach.
The
floor
is
not
yours.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
think
most
of
my
questions,
I'm
probably
gonna
reserve
for
the
working
session,
because
I
think
we're
not
really
doing
technical
language
stuff
today.
I
think
just
the
one
thing
that
I
wanted
to
flag
and
tren.
I
don't
know
if
you,
if
you
have
any
comments
on
this
or
if
you
don't,
but
it
just,
it
seems
to
me
like
there's,
probably
two
places
where
we
could
really
up
the
city's
game.
Here
I
mean
one
of
them.
C
One
of
them
definitely
is
you
know
just
how
we
use
the
existing
like
infrastructure,
how
we
escalate
things
with
agencies
more
like
what
can
we
do
to
penalize
folks?
You
know
who
are
getting
getting
privileges
from
us
as
a
city
right,
but
another
thing
that's
come
up
in
some
other
spaces.
Is
you
know
even
where
the
even
where
the
law
might
not
have
as
firm
of
a
reach
as
we
want
like?
C
I
would
love
to
think
about
how,
frankly,
in
the
city
of
boston,
we
like
shame
folks
who
have
committed
wage
theft,
because
I,
because
I
think
that
I
think
that
it's
sort
of
unconscionable
that
we
can
sometimes
have
like
you
know,
actors
in
the
city
who
are
who
sort
of
like
can
go
around
running
their
businesses
and
they
actually
have,
like
you,
know,
sustained
complaints
of
wage
theft
on
file
against
them.
And
it's
somehow
like
not
in
our
general
conversation.
C
So
just
one
thing
I
wanted
to
flag
for
this
is
that,
even
even
in
the
places
where
we
find
that
like,
we
might
not
be
able
to
do
like
city
enforcement
in
a
way
that
shuts
somebody
down.
I
think
that
finding
opportunities
to
make
it
really
clear
that
the
city,
if
the
city
figures
out
that
that
you've
done
something
like
this,
that
we're
really
putting
a
scarlet
letter
on
your
business.
C
I
think
I
think,
is
an
important
piece,
and
I
think
sometimes,
when
I
get
frustrated
about
our
like
hard
power
at
a
municipal
level.
I
remember
that
there
is
that
kind
of
quite
substantial
soft
power
that
we
can
have
in
in
areas
like
this,
so
that
was
just
one
thing.
Mr
chair,
I
was
thinking
about
as
I
was
listening
to
kind
of
the
you
know,
the
constraints
on
us
versus
the
state
and
federal
actors,
and
I
just
wanted
to
flag.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
bach.
So
are
you
basically
saving
whatever
questions
you
have
for
the
working
session
when
we
get
into
the
language.
C
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
it's
I
mean
I
think
it's.
I
feel
like
we're
not
really
doing
that
today.
So
I
won't
take
us
there.
A
Yeah,
we
will
be
doing
that
in
the
working
session
for
certain,
and
so
thank
you,
councilor
bach,
I
know
counselor
louis
jen
may
have
stepped
away
briefly.
If
you're
there,
the
floor
is
yours,
otherwise,
council
will
rail,
council
or
well,
if
you're
able
to
able
to
take
any
give
any
ask
any
questions
at
this
time.
Is
yours
yeah,.
F
Thank
you,
chair
and
most
of
my
questions
have
been.
G
Asked
and
I'll
reserve
my
rest
of
my
questions
also
for
the
working
such
as
around
the
language.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you,
counselor
well
and
council
blue
jam
when
you,
when
you
want
to
ask
questions,
just
turn
the
video
on
and
I'll
I'll
shoot
it
to
you
I'll
ask
my
questions.
Now.
Some
of
them
have
been
asked
already,
but
my
first
question
is
for
director
nguyen
what
requirements
or
obligations
currently
exists
for
contractors
with
the
city
of
boston
when
they
want
to
bid.
D
Four
years
ago,
we
had
drafted
a
very
thoughtful
form
on
certifying
payrolls
and
variety
of
forms
and
list
information
for
the
licensing,
liquor
department,
and
it
was
called
an
m16
form
and
we
can
send
that
to
you
an
example,
and
so
it
was
very
well
thought
out
by
lawyers
and
our
our
advocates,
who
are
here
gbls
at
that
time:
community
labor,
united
and
a
variety
of
folks,
and
this
m16
form
had
very
intentional
information
about
or
leading
to
or
alluding
to
any
wage
that
theft
violation.
D
And
then,
over
the
years
we
found
that
you
know
the
feedback
was
that
the
the
form
was
laborious
and
that
it
was
already
clunky
to
a
very
arduous
application
process.
And
so
you
know
previous
staff
took
the
form
out
and
didn't
maybe
communicate
with
us
on.
Okay,
if
that
didn't
work.
What
would-
and
so
I
think
we
were
left
in
that
limbo.
D
That
was
one
tool
in
which
we
used
the
other
pieces
again,
our
biggest
ally
is
the
ag's
office,
and
so
when
they
give
us
a
list
of
really
bad
actors,
and
then
we
send
it
over
to
at
that
time
before
the
liquor
license,
commissioner,
and
and
commissioned
to
say,
hey.
Some
of
these
were
the
bad
actors.
D
We
need
to
do
at
least
a
hearing
for
for
these
potential
vendors
and
that
will
help,
deter
or
send
the
message
out
and
those
hearings
first
were
sporadic,
but
then
over
time
it
was
became
laborious
for
some
of
the
staff
members,
and
so
it
was
very
difficult
for
us
to
keep
making
calls
and
not
getting
any
return
phone
calls
and
then
paperwork
got
shuffled
and
then
it
just
fell
on
the
wayside
and-
and
I
think
we
need
to
do
meaning.
D
The
city
needs
to
do
a
better
job
and
we're
pulling
in
departments
that
really
have
anchors.
So,
for
example,
the
law
department
needs
to
make
it
a
priority
and
state
that,
and
then
some
of
the
agencies
in
which
we
need
to
work
on
and
with
in
partnership,
has
to
trickle
down
and
that
training
and
procedures
and
culture
have
to
change
so
that
people
don't
think
it's
laborious
that
this
is
the
city
does
not
want
to
do
business
with
bad
actors.
D
D
If
they
don't
have
that,
and
if
there
are
violations
you
need
to
answer
to
that
before
we
give
it
to
you
and
we
approach
back,
then
the
commissioner,
their
law
department,
some
of
them
said
it
was
a
good
idea.
Some
of
them
didn't,
but
again
it
fell
to
the
wayside,
because
other
other
issues
took
precedent
and
priority,
and
so
that
was
the
only
tool
we
have
was
the
m16
form,
and
also
I
would
also
consider
processes
within
various
agencies
could
be
very
useful
if
we,
if
we
really
wanted
to
do
it
the
right
way.
A
It
does
thank
you
and
so
then
I
have
a
sort
of
a
second
question
which
is
under
what
conditions
does
the
city
currently
issue?
Stop
work,
orders
or
stop
contracts?
What's
the
span.
D
We
had
asked
those
same
questions
and
the
response
we
got
was
that
we
don't
really
have
legal
teeth
to
do
this,
and-
and
I
have
to
say
that
I
question
that,
because
it
hasn't
been
fully
embedded
in
which
in
which,
what
what
what
can
we
do
legally
and
what
can't
we
do,
and
I
mean
I
I
think
so
once
that
directive
comes
down
to
me,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
know
I
have
that
political
capital
to
to
move
that
down
the
ch
to
move
that
up
the
chain.
D
So
that
is
a
question
that
we
that
needs
to
be
embedded
in,
perhaps
a
working
session
to
say
what
are
the
compliance
and
tools
in
which
we
can
use
to
hold
people
accountable,
and
so
I've
just
listed
two
levers.
That
is
an
example,
and
so
if,
if
let's
say
the
zba
denies
or
asks
that
that
contractor
to
reconcile
that
wage
theft,
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
a
procedure
that
we
need
to
figure
out
and
then
also
what
we
can
or
cannot
do.
But
I
think
that's
a
good
question.
D
I
don't
have
an
answer
to
that,
but
I
think
that
the
the
law,
department
and
various
legal
entities
of
agencies
need
to
answer
to
that,
and
I
I
don't
necessarily
buy
the
fact
that
we
don't
we
can't
we
can't
pull
permits
and
not
renew
it.
That
has
been
the
answer
given
to
me
and
I
question
that
I'm
not
saying
it's
wrong
or
right,
but
until
that
that
process
has
been
fully
vet
vetted
out.
I'm
not
wedded
to
that
answer.
D
A
Thank
you,
that's
actually
very
helpful.
That's
that's,
essentially
the
feeling
that
I
had
as
well
in
the
sense
that
I
had
it
as
well
about
one
that
we
we
haven't
done
things,
but
also
that
we
likely
probably
can
sorry
my
voice
keeps
going
on.
My
throat
has
been
a
problem
all
week.
So
just
a
quick
question
for
you,
which
is
what
kind
of
resources
or
how
much
do
you
think
you
would
need,
in
terms
of
resources,
to
enforce
this
ordinance
effectively
through
the
office
of
workforce
development?
D
Yeah,
so
I
was
thinking
ab
about
that,
and
I
I
know
the
woo
administration
is
very
keen
and
perhaps
will
make
this
a
priority
as
well
is.
Is
that
not
just
to
tackle
wage
theft
but
a
labor
compliance
unit?
And
so
our
staff
have
been
researching
across
the
country
to
see
what
our
models
like?
I
know,
san
francisco
has
a
really
good
model.
Portland
oregon
has
a
good
model.
Austin
has
a
good
model.
D
Seattle
has
an
office
of
equity
underneath
the
mayor
that
does
just
labor
compliance
and
procurement
and
sanctions,
and
so
you
know
thinking
this
broadly
is
that
you
know
a
city's
labor
compliance
unit
and
that
could
start
with
conservatively
500
000
a
year
to
to
start
and
to
pilot,
and
then,
if
we
needed
additional
resources,
we
could
answer
back
to
the
council
and
the
administration
on
what
else
is
needed
and
so
that
labor
compliance
department
for
efficiency's
sake
could
also
handle
not
just
wage
theft
but
living
living
living
wage,
for
example.
D
Procurement
is
another
one
that
we
can
put
under
that
rubric,
perhaps
with
sharing
it
with
another
administration
office,
so
I
think
to
start
conservatively
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
with
staff
database,
some
consultant
to
do
some
research
and
then
build
out
this
labor
compliance
unit
step
by
step
and
include
wage
theft
as
part
of
it.
Now
I
I
think
that
is
only
one
piece
to
the
equation.
The
biggest
piece
is
going
to
be
political
capital.
Is
there
a
political
will
to
say
we
will
stop?
D
We
will
not
do
business
with
people
and
employers
and
vendors
who
don't
do
good
to
our
community
and-
and
I
think
that
that
has
to
be
a
political
will
and
then
that
trickles
down
to
depart
the
cabinet
members
department,
heads
and
then
we
have
to
roll
up
our
sleeves
for
years.
We
have
to
build
a
culture
of
accountability
and
of
values.
D
We
work
for
the
public
and
we
want
to
make
sure
whatever
we
do
on
a
day-to-day
basis,
speaks
to
those
values
and,
and
so
having
a
compliance
unit
is
only
one
piece
and
a
budget
is
only
one
piece,
but
changing
the
culture
as
we
move
forward
is
going
to
be
huge,
because
I
can't
do
100
other
things
that
other
staff
members
are
doing
at
other
procurement
and
legal
departments.
I
need
their
buy-in
to
call
me
so
that
we
can
work
as
a
team
with
the
ag's
office.
D
Now
the
ag's
office
has
been
doing
this
work
for
quite
some
time,
so
we
didn't
want
to
reinvent
databases
and
legal
compliance
infrastructure,
but
that
they
can
also
help
the
other
entity
that
can
help
us
with
thinking
about.
This
is
the
harvard
workers
law
center,
the
the
workers
center.
We
have
been
meeting
with
them
on
a
monthly
basis,
with
all
compliance
leaders
around
the
country
to
talk
about
these
nuts
and
bolts.
D
What
forms,
what
tools
work,
they're,
actually
going
to
publish
a
kit
and
a
paper
on
how
municipalities
can
enforce
better
labor
compliance
units
and
so
they're
going
to
lay
that
out
across
the
the
country,
but
that's
just
to
start.
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
Counseling.
A
And
I
appreciate
it,
I
do
appreciate
just
how
much
depth
you
give
us
director
neon.
So
I
do
appreciate
that
in
the
answers-
and
that
does
answer
my
question-
I
think
there's
gonna
be
obviously
resources.
We're
gonna
have
to
dedicate
in
this
budget
to
this
kind
of
work,
but
I
think
it's
worth
it
and
something
we
have
to
do.
A
I
I
do
have
one
question
for
attorney
richardson,
if
she's,
if
you're
able
to
take
it
just
in
terms
of
the
language-
and
I
know
that
language
is
something
that
we're
gonna
go
over
in
the
working
sessions
and
they'll,
be
you
know,
that's
where
we
present
what
the
issues
are,
but
is
there
any
one
thing
in
here
that
you
think
we
can
address
to
address
sort
of
the
fears
around
undocumented
immigrants
really
hitting
getting
hit
hard
in
a
way
that
we
that
we're
not
intending
to
do.
E
Yeah
I
well
thank
you.
I
think
the
the
nitty-gritty
of
the
language
is.
I
was
assuming
it
was
not.
This
was
not
the
right
time
and
place
to
get
into
the
weeds
on
that,
but
I
think
there
is
some
light.
There's
language
in
the
in
the
outside
of
the
preamble
that
feels
problematic
to
to
the
immigrant
groups,
and
then
there's
also.
E
There
are
a
few
points
in
the
the
body
of
the
ordinance
where
the
there's
various
types
of
issues
listed
that
really
do
go
beyond
wage
theft,
into
kind
of
the
tax,
predominantly
tax
related
issues
and
potentially
some
of
the
kind
of
insurance
related
issues
as
well.
So
there's,
I
think
it's
relatively
in
terms
of
the
you
know,
harm
piece
of
it.
I
think
it's
a
relatively
finite
universe
of
spots
within
the
ordinance
that
there
are
some
specific
changes
that
could
be
made.
A
That's
that's
fantastic,
so
we'll
we'll
go
through
that
more
in
depth
during
the
working
sessions
for
certain,
because
that's
where
the
language
gets
hammered
out
and
we
we
have
sort
of
those
legal
conversations
about
what
are
the
impacts
of
this.
What
are
the
collateral
consequences
of
that,
and
so
thank
you
for
flagging
that
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
had
some
sense
of
what
we
were
talking
about
specifically
there.
A
I
think
with
that
we
are
done
with
questions
for
this
panel,
and
so
I
thank
you
both
for
your
time.
Oh
no,
it
looks
like
roofie
is
there
to
ask
questions,
so
let
me
go
to
counselor
louis
jen,
so
that
you
can
ask
whatever
questions
she
has.
I
see
she's
on
the
move,
so
counselor
laura
is
yours.
I
I'm
so
sorry
there's
something
that
came
up,
but
I've
been
listening
and
I
especially
to
the
beginning
part
of
the
working
session
to
this
hearing.
The
only
thing
that
I
have-
and
it's
a
lot
of
it
is
like
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
sessions
where
we'll
hammer
out
some
of
some
of
the
language
to
make
sure
that
we
address
any
concerns
that
may
exist
around
tax
rod,
but
it's
very
important
that
we
are
doing
everything
we
can
to
prevent
wage
staff.
One
things
are
there,
lessons
does
anyone
know?
I
Are
there
lessons
from
other
cities
that
have
passed
similar
ordinances
about
how
the
language
has
potentially
affected?
You
know,
workers,
you
know,
maybe
immigrant
workers
in
an
unintended
way,
because
that
I'd
be
curious.
To
know
more
about
that.
Apologies
that
someone
already
asked
this
question.
A
I
don't
think
anybody
has
I'm
not
sure
this
might
be
a
good
one
for
the
next
panel,
unless
attorney
richardson
or
director
media
are
aware
of
the
ones
that
have
already
been
implemented.
I
know
the
next
panel
has
folks
who
are
very
aware
of
the
ones
that
have
been
implemented.
E
Some
of
the
you
know
fine
tools,
basically
for
an
excuses
for
for
doing
things
that
that
actually
are
counterproductive
in
terms
of
enforcement
in
terms
of
making
workers
feel
vulnerable
in
terms
of
terminating
them
in
terms
of
kind
of
putting
additional
pressures
and
requirements
on
them
all
of
a
sudden
those
there
I
mean
there
are
many
examples
from
you
know
that
all
the
all
the
client
groups
that
I
am
speaking
on
behalf
of
have
seen
in
many
different
places.
I
mean
obviously
some
of
the
specifics.
E
Are
there.
You
know
the
specifics
vary,
but
we
there's
no
doubt
that
folks
have
seen
real,
concrete
examples
of
of
of
workers
who
have
suffered
because
of
the
ways
in
which
already
bad
acting
employers
have
then
kind
of
misused,
misused
language
to
kind
of
put,
put
additional
pressure
and
create
additional
fears
for
for
workers,
whether
it's
through
through
threat
threats
or
through
explicit
actions.
E
So
I
know
that's
a
very
general
answer
to
your
question,
but
we
you
know
we
certainly
there
are
exclusive
examples,
certainly
that
we
can
provide,
and
then
you
know,
in
terms
of
the
actual
language
happy
to
keep
working
on
it.
H
On
this
issue
and
yeah
I'll
I'll
also,
you
know
ask
this
question
for
the
next
panel
and
you
know
hopefully
we'll
have.
If
there
are
are
those
issues
you
can
address
them
in
the
working
session.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
council
again
and
so
we'll
go
to
the
next
panel.
Now
I
want
to
thank
our
first
panel.
If
you
want
to
stick
around
you
may,
if
you
have
something
else
to
do,
you
can
do
that.
I
also
want
to
just
say
directory
and
I'm
very
grateful
for
your
for
your
participation
today.
Usually
we
do
not
get
these
sort
of
in-depth
answers
from
the
administration,
so
that
was
very
welcome
and
I'm
very
appreciative.
A
So
thank
you
for
being
here
for
speaking
truthfully
and
openly
about
all
the
ways
in
which
we
can
make
something
better,
what
we're
doing
now
and
what
we
can't
be
doing,
and
so
thank
you
for
that,
and
so
with
that
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
second
panel,
starting
with
chris
soris,
and
if
I'm
pronouncing
your
name
incorrectly.
Please
do
correct
me
when
you
introduce
yourself,
because
I
want
names
to
be
correct
from
the
north
atlantic
states.
A
Regional
council
of
carpenters
also
an
attorney
darlene
lombos
from
the
greater
boston,
labor
council
and
jamie
mcneil
from
united
here
local
26,
and
so
we
don't
have
any
specific
order
here
planned
for
how
you
present,
but
we
can
start
with
christopher.
Is
it
cerise?
A
J
Soros,
yes,
that's
fine.
I've
heard
worse
attempts,
I'm
christopher
source,
I'm
an
attorney
with
gracosaurus
and
landry
law
firm
in
boston
and
I've
been
asked
by
the
north
atlantic
states,
regional
council
of
carpenters,
to
say
a
few
words
in
support
of
the
ordinance
we've
heard.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
educate
anybody
here
about
wage
theft.
J
Most
of
the
people
on
this
call
are
pretty
familiar
with
how
it
impacts
workers
and
I'd
like
to
address
some
of
the
discussion.
That's
come
up
before
me
because
I
think
it's
significant
to
note
that
wage
theft,
often
if
not,
usually
goes
hand
in
hand
with
with
employers
who
engage
in
payroll
tax
fraud
and
workers,
comp
insurance
fraud
and
workers.
Comp
insurance
fraud,
of
course,
has
severe
consequences
for
workers
who
are
not
covered
by
workers
compensation
when
they
get
injured
and,
of
course,
in
the
construction
industry.
J
Some
of
those
injuries
can
be
serious
if
not
fatal,
but
the
payroll
tax
fraud,
part
of
it,
which,
as
I
said,
usually
goes
hand
in
hand
with
with
wage
theft,
deprives.
You
know
governments,
including
cities
and
towns
of
much-needed
revenue,
and
I
would
just
note
that
the
carpenter's
union
has
devoted
quite
a
lot
of
resources
and
has
spent
quite
a
lot
of
energy
helping
victims
of
wage
theft,
most
of
whom,
many
of
whom
were,
if
not,
most
of
whom
are
undocumented
workers.
J
There's
no
interest
on
the
part
of
the
carpenters
to
do
something
that
has
you
know
some
significant
negative
impact
on
undocumented
workers,
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
gbls
and
clu
and
and
their
constituencies
closely
in
the
working
session
to
get
a
better
sense
of
you
know
what
their
issues
are
and
and
and
work
towards
coming
to
some
something
that
that
meets
all
of
our
needs.
J
You
know,
I
think
we've
heard
that
a
little
bit
about
the
scope
of
the
problem,
but
the
scope
has
become
not
really
such
an
issue
that
now
we're
turning
towards.
You
know,
municipalities
to
deal
with
the
problem
and
that's
because,
particularly
in
some
industries
like
the
construction
industry,
it's
really
an
epidemic
in
the
construction
industry
and
the
attorney
general's
office
has
freely
acknowledged
that
they
don't
have
the
resources
to
address
the
problem
as
something
that
was
noted
earlier.
J
They
deal
with
the
tip
of
the
iceberg
and
they
on
on
numerous
occasions,
including,
as
I
hear
in
this
case,
welcome
the
efforts
of
municipalities
to
deal
with
the
problem.
Through
you
know,
proposals
like
the
ones
that
are
being
considered
here,
they've
been
adopted
in
a
number
of
other
cities
in
various
forms
in
springfield
and
lynn
in
somerville
and
and
I'd
like
to
address
just
a
few
of
the
construction-related
provisions
in
the
ordinance
just
for
a
moment.
J
The
bill
has
a
few
dealing
specifically
with
construction
and
I
and
it's
not
to
diminish
the
significance
of
wage
theft
in
other
sectors,
because
it's
certainly
rampant
in
in
many
sectors
of
the
economy.
But
it's
also
a
very
serious
problem
in
construction
and
the
section
7,
8
and
9
are
designed
to
address
construction
situations
specifically
and
they're,
really
designed
to
give
the
city
tools
that
they
don't
really
have
at
the
moment
and
in
in
sort
of
novel
ways.
I
think
to
to
address
the
problem.
J
Section.
Seven
and
nine
deal
with
projects
that
are
funded
by
tax
relief
granted
by
the
city
and
and
address
larger
private
construction
projects
that
are
being
built
pursuing
with
the
building
permits
and
we've
had
some
discussion
about
our
from
director
of
new
yen
about
the
about
building
permits
and
this
provision
does
it
does
attempt
to
address
that
that
question
in
terms
of
the
city's
authority?
The
point
of
these
two
sections
is
not-
and
I'd
like
to
emphasize
this.
J
It's
really
not
to
give
the
city
tools
to
actually
take
enforcement
action
against
the
bad
actors
they're.
They
have
a
very
different
intent
and
the
idea
behind
them
is
to
incentivize
the
parties
in
the
kind
of
construction
arena
that
really
have
the
authority
and
the
power
to
control
what
happens
on
on
construction
sites,
and
I'm
really
talking
about
project
owners
and
general
contractors.
J
The
problems
are
really
for
the
most
part
undertaken
by
subcontractors
or
sub
subcontractors
down
the
chain,
but
the
reality,
unfortunately,
is
the
illegal
savings
from
these
practices
are
so
great
that
they
create
significant
financial
incentives
to
cheat
and
financial
incentives
on
the
part
of
owners
and
general
contractors
to
turn
a
blind
eye
to
what
really
pretty
much
everybody
in
in
the
in
the
industry
now
knows
is
going
on,
and
the
prospect
of
the
forfeiture
of
tax
relief
and
the
prospect
of
having
a
major
construction
site
shut
down
in
its
entirety.
J
In
the
event,
wage
staff
just
found
taking
place
are
designed
to
create
some
counter
incentives
to
the
to
the
incentive
to
cheat
and
to
and
to
hopefully
motivate
the
entities
that
have
the
authority
to
do
something
and
control
their
job
sites
to
keep
the
bad
actors
off
their
job
sites.
Section
eight
addresses
construction
undertaken
by
the
city
itself
when
it
builds.
J
You
know,
municipal
offices-
or
you
know,
police
departments
or
fire
departments,
that
kind
of
thing
and
is
designed
to,
I
think,
basically,
codify
elements
that
we've
some
of
some
of
which
we've
seen
in
in
the
mayor's
executive
order.
From
you
know,
a
number
of
years
years
ago,
mayor
walsh's
executive
order
that
was
referenced
a
few
minutes
ago.
J
The
cities
of
portland
and
providence
have
similar
requirements
for
their
for
municipal
contracts
and
they
accomplish
a
number
of
significant
purposes
and
one
of
which
is
that
they
keep
workers
who
are
receiving
quality
skills
training
in
the
in
the
pipeline,
so
that
it
it
can
help
assure
the
availability
of
a
skilled
workforce
to
meet
the
city's
own
construction
needs
in
the
future,
but
particularly
in
the
city
of
boston.
J
With
its
strong
resident
jobs
policy,
an
apprenticeship
requirement
goes
a
long
way
to
provide
young
residents
of
the
city
with
career
pathways
into
you
know,
really
good
paying
jobs
in
the
construction
industry,
and
with
that
I
don't
think.
There's
much
need
to
go
into
at
this
stage
into
the
nitty
gritty.
But
we
look
forward
to
working
with
city
councilors
with
gbls
their
constituent
worker
centers
and
anybody
else
who
has
an
interest
in
this
to
come
up
with
something
that
works
for
everybody.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
and
now
I'm
gonna
go
to
darlene
lombos
from
the
greater
boston,
labor
council.
K
Great
thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
this
morning.
My
name
is
darlene
lombos,
I'm
the
executive
secretary,
treasurer
of
the
greater
boss,
labor
council.
We
represent
100
000
working
union
members
and
their
families
throughout
this
region,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you,
council,
arroyo
and
councillor
mejia
for
your
leadership
on
this
issue
and
allowing
me
to
share
my
testimony
today.
I'm
so
glad
that
trent
is
here
as
well.
K
She's
just
done
an
incredible
job
at
operationalizing
that
executive
order,
as
was
mentioned
before
that
former
mayor
walsh
passed
signed
in
2014
and,
as
you
heard,
she's
just
a
wealth
of
knowledge
and
and
expertise
in
this
area,
and
it's
ma
that
she
is
my
go-to
person.
When
we
have
some
questions
about
any
of
this
stuff,
I
mean
I
can
hardly
believe
that
it
was
nine
years
ago
back
when
I
was
executive
director
of
clu
that
we
started
this
campaign.
K
It
was
even
more
prevalent
in
property
services
and
hospitality
and
the
restaurant
industry,
and
it
was
because
employers
were
using
this,
as
you
all
already
know,
this
business
model
where
they
were
creating
layers
and
layers
of
contractors
and
subcontractors
that
created
a
lack
of
accountability
for
those
businesses
who
were
have
this
model
were
basically
gaming.
The
system
and
were
no
longer
calling
could
could
be
accountable
to
whoever
the
employee
was
because
of
these
layers
of
contractors
and
subcontractors.
K
And
you
know
it's
called
the
underground
economy,
the
figured
economy,
all
those
things
you
already
know
that,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
this
basic
thing
that
workers
are
being
cheated
out
of
an
honest
days,
pay
for
an
honest
day's
work.
That's
the
basic
basic
concept
here
and,
and
we're
all
made
to
pay
that
price
taxpayers
the
communities
we
live
in
even
responsible
businesses.
They
can't
compete
because
of
this.
K
The
way
irresponsible
companies
are
gaming,
the
system-
and
it
is
all
about
maximizing
profits
on
the
backs
of
workers,
so
part
of
the
statewide
campaign
to
prevent
wage
theft
was
this
strategy,
as
trent
mentioned,
to
pass
ordinances
and
executive
orders,
because
we
know
that
both
the
state
and
cities
need
tools
to
deal
with
this
epidemic,
and
there
have
been
several
cities
that
have
passed:
wage
theft,
ordinances
and
executive
orders
order
and
we're
so
thrilled
that
we
are
now
codifying
and
even
making
better
what
tren
has
been
able
to
do
with
the
executive
order?
K
It's
been
a
long
time
coming
and
we're
very
excited
to
be
working
with
you
all
on
this.
I
am
happy
to
report
that
massachusetts.
Bill
has
been
reported
out
of
committee,
so
we
might
be
able
to
see
finally
see
that
bill
passed.
We're
really
excited
about
that,
but
that
doesn't
preclude
or
stop
us
from
needing
to
pass
these
in
cities
as
well.
As
chris
mentioned,
the
state
bill
is
not
the
fix
for
wage
theft,
nor
will
this
ordinance.
K
In
fact,
there
are
other
tools
we
need
to
deploy
and
train
mention
some
of
them.
There
are
other
things
like
wage
liens
and
deputizing
more
compliance
officers
and
things
like
that.
But
this
ordinance
is
an
incredible
first
step,
builds
upon
the
executive
order
and
we're
just
really
excited
to
be
working
with
you
on
making
this
the
gold
standard
from
here
on
out.
So
I'll
leave
it
at
that,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
this
morning.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
and
for
the
work
that
you
do
jamie
mcneill
here
from
local
26.
The
floor
is
yours.
F
Thank
you
so
much
counselor
and
thank
you
councillor,
mejia
as
well.
It's
a
real
honor
to
be
here.
My
name
is
jamie
mcneil,
I'm
the
general
agent
for
the
hotel
food
workers,
union
local
26..
F
We
represent
about
12
000
workers
at
the
airport,
in
the
hotels
at
the
convention,
centers
at
the
casino
at
fenway
park,
where
the
hotel
and
food
workers
union-
and
I
just
want
to
echo
a
lot
of
what
darlene
said-
it's
so
great
to
be
here
with
with
trent
as
well-
train
your
gifts
to
the
city.
I'm
saying
that
in
full.
F
I
hope
you
hear
it
in
my
voice,
I'm
your
real
gift
to
the
city,
your
real
gift
to
the
labor
movement
here
in
the
city
and
and
throughout
the
commonwealth,
and
I
just
it's
the
work
you
do
behind
the
scenes
that
no
one
sees
no
one
knows
about.
You
know
that
has
such
an
impact
on
so
many
workers
lives
here
in
boston.
F
So
I
just
I
want
to
give
a
special
shout
out
to
you,
you're
you're,
you're,
a
gift
to
so
many,
and
I
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you
do.
We
have
a
saying
here,
I'll,
be
very
brief.
We
have
a
saying
here
in
boston
that,
whether
you're
pouring
concrete
or
you're
pouring
coffee,
you
deserve
respect
and
dignity,
and
you
deserve
to
get
paid.
What
you're
worth
the
reason
local
26
supports.
F
This
ordinance
is
that
it
takes
huge
steps
in
codifying
that
concept
and
that
ideal
that
we
have
here
in
the
city
of
boston,
and
what
do
I
mean
by
that?
You
know
the
executive
order
that
that
may
well
put
forward,
and
that
trend
has
has
been
reinforcing
for
years,
really
laid
that
ideal
that
we
have
here
out
on
the
table.
This
ordinance
codifies
it,
it
expands
it.
F
F
Just
a
little
experience
from
from
my
from
from.
From
my
perspective,
you
know
the
good
news
is
for
us.
We
deal
in
union
shops,
we
do
not
really
deal
with
wage
thefts.
I
mean
like
most
things,
I'm
a
kind
of
a
broken
record.
You
know
whether
it's
affordable
housing,
whether
it's
crime,
you
know,
there's
so
many
things
that
I
have
firsthand
seen
that
unions
fix
right.
This
is
another
one.
F
If
an
employer
knows
that
there
is
somebody
monitoring
payroll,
that
there
is
a
outlet
for
that
worker
to
to
go
to
that
can
remedy
the
situation
within
hours.
F
Then
the
problem
doesn't
exist
right,
and
so
I'm
not
saying
it
doesn't
exist.
100
we,
I
certainly
you
know-
was
dealing
with
spreadsheets
last
week
trying
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
a
case.
But
when
there's
somebody
monitoring
day-to-day
a
workplace,
you
don't
deal
with
this
situation
as
much
bad
news
is
for
the
non-union
sector
right,
we're,
organizing
a
bunch
of
restaurants
in
the
airport,
we're
organizing.
We
have
a
bunch
of
other
restaurants,
but
it's
very
prevalent
in
the
restaurant
industry.
F
It's
very
prevalent
in
the
hotel
industry,
that's
non-union,
especially
when
you
get
outside
of
boston.
We
also
see
it
prevalent
with
subcontracting
in
the
non-union
hotel
industry.
Subcontracting
is
becoming
more
and
more
prevalent
and
more
and
more
classifications
in
departments
and
hotels.
F
F
So
you
know
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
you
know:
enforcement
right
policies
are
only
as
good
as
the
enforcement
mechanism.
The
great
thing
going
back
to
whether
you
pour
concrete
whether
you
pour
coffee
is
this
allows
for
an
essential,
stop
work
order
if
the
problem
isn't
resolved
in
restaurants
and
in
hotels
and
so
just
like
a
construction
site.
F
You
know,
as
as
many
have
said
on
this,
call
right
if,
if
there's
a
recalcitrant
employer
and
they
are
refusing
to
remedy
the
situation
in
a
timely
manner
right,
the
licensing
board
can't
step
in
and
that's
a
huge
as
councilmember
pointed
out,
that's
a
huge
way
to
get
a
problem
solved
right,
and
so
so
that's
a
huge
part
of
this.
You
know
if
there's
other
ways
to
strengthen
it.
You
know
we'd
be
happy
to
look
at
that,
but
that
is
like
I
said
you
know.
F
Policy
is
only
good
as
as
enforcement,
and
I
think
that's
a
great,
a
great
tool
here.
So
again
I
want
to
thank
you,
council,
royal
council
mejia,
all
the
counselors
on
the
call
and
and
other
panelists
and
trend
we're
in
full
support
and
yeah
looking
forward
to
the
working
session,
and
thank
you
for
all
you
do
for
the
city
of
boston.
This
is
only
going
to
create
more
equity
in
a
number
of
industries
that
I
really
really
need
it
today.
So
thank
you
so
much.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all,
frankly
for
your
your
testimony
today,
I'm
gonna
kick
it
over
to
the
counselors
again
beginning
with
counselor
mejia.
B
Yes,
thank
you
counselor,
and
it's
always
great
to
be.
B
Thank
you
counselor.
I
always
like
to
say
it's
good
to
be
with
family
right.
I
think
we're
all
here,
working
towards
the
same
goal
and
I'm
so
encouraged
by
the
level
of
intentionality
that
each
of
you
have
brought
to
this
conversation,
and
so
I
just
have
a
few
questions,
and
I
want
to
ask
the
same
questions
to
our
second
panel,
as
we
did
to
the
first.
B
Is
what
recommendations
do
you
have
for
us
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
that
we're
being
intentional
about
supporting
undocumented
workers
and
something
new
about
this
ordinance?
Is
that
we're
moving
away
from
traditional
finding
structures
for
contractors
that
don't
meet
our
requirements
going
as
far
as
revoking
their
contract?
B
A
K
So
you
know
for
me,
and
I
think
for
those
of
us
in
in
the
labor
movement
and
in
the
social
justice
movement,
it
is
the
way
we
protect
workers
or
and
undocumented
workers
is
for
them
to
also
be
a
part
of
the
solution,
and
so
I
do
think
it
is
important
for
us
to
obviously
go
back
and
talk
to
workers
about
what
language
they
want
to
see.
K
I
don't
think
that
it's
something
that
we
should
just
do
that
without
consulting
workers
themselves,
so
we
will
do
that
and
we
are
already
in
conversation
I
mean.
I
know
that
audrey
is
speaking
for
all
of
the
worker
centers
that
she
represents.
K
We
obviously,
when
at
community
labor
united
brought
together
worker,
centers
and
unions,
to
have
those
conversations,
that's
why
we
ended
up
with
a
really
strong
statewide
bill,
and,
yes,
those
conversations
are
hard
and
also
awesome,
because
then
everybody's
on
the
same
page,
that
we
need
comprehensive
immigration
reform
and
it's
great
and
we'll
fight
together
for
that
too.
But
in
the
meantime,
we
also
have
other
things
we
need
to
be
doing
and
how
to
get
language
that
everybody
feels
good
about
is.
Is
our
job?
It's
what
we
need
to
do
on
the
impact?
K
I
think
that
you
know
trent
had
mentioned
some
of
the
things
that,
just
in
the
last
been
able
to
operationalize
and
some
of
the
impact
of
of
just
even
the
executive
order,
how
contracts
can
be
shifted
or
licenses
not
renewed
or
all
those
things
I
think
are
are
huge
impacts.
K
I
I
think
that
it's
so
important
that
employers
know
what
kind
of
values
that
the
city
has
and
we
value
the
dignity
and
the
honesty's
pay
for
an
honesty's
work,
kind
of
just
basic
concepts
of
of
rights
and
dignity
for
workers
that
is
so
important
to
have
that
signaled
by
the
city,
by
all
of
you,
by
the
leadership,
by
having
a
clarity
around
who
can
do
business
in
this
town,
and
so
that's
that's
very,
very
important
and
the
impact
is
even
broader
than
just
this.
Wage
theft
issue.
J
Yeah,
I
I
would
I
would.
I
would
agree
with
that,
and
I
think
you
know
we
look
forward
to
discussions
with
you
know
with
all
the
affected
parties,
but
I
think
just
conceptually
you
know
the
in
the
past.
The
effort
has
been,
you
know,
focused
on
finding
the
violators
and
bringing
enforcement
action
against
the
violators,
and
that's
proven
to
be
just
the
problem
is
so
massive
now
that
there
just
aren't
the
resources
to
do
that.
J
So
so
I
think,
in
an
important
way
to
you,
know,
advance
these
interests
is
to
use
the
city's
ability
to
create
incentives
and
disincentives
on
the
people
who
you
know
who
really
make
the
decisions
and
have
control
over
things,
and
it
can
do
that
by
you
know
some
couple
of
the
ways
that
are
you
know
that
are
in
in
this
ordinance.
Like
the
you
know,
the
forfeiture
of
tax
relief
shutting
down
a
stop
work
order
on
a
construction
project,
but,
but
also
you
know
like
like-
has
been
discussed
earlier.
J
Withholding
revoking
permits
licenses
procurement
priorities.
J
All
those
things
you
know
aren't
designed
to
to
address
actual
violations,
they're
designed
to
motivate
and
incentivize
the
people
who
might
be
thinking
about
engaging
in
it
or
turning
a
blind
eye
to
it
with
their
you
know
their
contractors
or
subcontractors
to
keep
the
bad
actors
either
off
their
projects
or
off
their
contracts
or
or
to
keep
them
in
line.
I
think
that's
an
important
way
to
maybe
think
about
leveraging
the
city's
kind
of
resources
to
to
motivate
compliance.
B
Yeah
and
just
one
more
thing,
counselor,
then
I'll
wrap
up
with
my
questions.
Just
it's
more
of
a
comment,
not
so
much
a
question,
but
you
know
in
a
lot
of
work
sites.
There's
know
your
rights,
and
you
know
this.
This
we
don't
discriminate,
there's
always
arnold's
signage.
B
That
is
put
up,
and
I
think
that,
in
terms
of
when
I
think
about
implementation-
and
I
think
about
making
sure
that
people
understand
what
their
rights
are,
there
should
be
something
that
we
can
ensure
that
all
of
these
work
sites
have
some
some
clear
language
and
and
visible
signage,
that
for
the
for
for
the
for
the
employees
to
to
read
and
see
so
that
you
know
on
the
implementation
end
to
trends.
B
There
should
be
a
level
of
accountability
where
information
is
shared
and
disseminated
to
to
the
workforce,
because
otherwise
you
don't
know
what
you
don't
know
and-
and
I
think
that
there
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
also
have
that
level
of
intentionality
on
the
implementation
and
to
have
some
language
that
is
visible
in
different
work
sites.
B
That,
if
you
are,
if
you
suspect
that
you
know
you're
being
a
victim
of
wage,
that
here's
the
the
phone
number
that
you
can
call
and
I'm
not
sure
if
that
already
exists,
and
if
it
does
great,
if
it
doesn't,
then
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
to
to
talk
about
that
level
of
communication
and
also
through
the
city.
In
terms
of
psas
and
and
getting
information
out
to
the
general
public,
that's
something
else
that
I
think
could
potentially
help.
A
Thank
you
councilman
here,
councilor
bach.
The
floor
is
yours.
C
Thank
you
so
much
council
arroyo.
I
I
don't
think
I
really
have
questions.
These
are
some
of
my
favorite
people
and
I'm
so
grateful
that
darlene
jamie
chris.
It's
wonderful
to
make
your
acquaintance
just
yeah.
C
I
really
want
to
thank
you
all
and
just
say
that
I
think
that
you
know
I
just
feel
as
though
we're
not
like
at
the
national
level
like
we're
not
winning
the
battle
in
terms
of
like
labor
and
rights
in
this
country,
and
so
when
we
talk
about
boston
being
a
union
city
like
we
have
to
be
that
model
par
excellence
like
we
have
to
figure
out
how
we
can
like
wield
every
possible
tool
to
kind
of
push
back
against
the
tide
and
say:
hey
the
whole
city,
not
just
our
not
just
inside
of
our
labor
unions,
but
in
city
hall,
stands
for
workers,
rights
and
against
wage
theft,
and
so
yeah
just
count
me
in
for
whatever
we
can
do
and
and
very
much
agreeing
with
tren.
C
If
there's
something
that
the
city
can
be
doing
with
our
regulatory
game
to
say,
hey,
you're,
a
bad
actor,
we're
not
going
to
do
business
with
you,
I
don't
think
that
we
should
just
be
without
like
an
actual
legal
chapter
in
verse,
shying
away
from
doing
that,
whatever
lovers
we
can
pull,
we
should
be
pulling
so
I'm
very
much
here
for
it
along
the
way
and
thanks
so
much
to
the
labor
panel.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
bach
councillor
louis
jen,
and
I
just
want
to
know
we've
been
joined
by
the
president
of
the
city
council,
ed
flynn,
and
he
will
be
following
counselor
luigi.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
sorry
that
I
was
walking
before
him
now.
I
I
believe
that
I'd
want
to
thank
this
really
great
panel
of
experts
on
the
issues
of
workers,
rights
and
and
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we
get
this
right,
and
so
I'm
gonna
ask
the
same
like
question
that
I
asked
previously,
and
I
think
it's
more
concerned
with
like
how
much
of
a
and
and
we'll
get
into
this,
how
much
of
a
fine-tooth
comb
on
language
do
we
need
to
use
here
if
anybody
knows
about
these
ordinances
being
enacted
in
other
cities
and
how
how
if,
how,
if,
at
all
any
of
the
language
in
a
way
that
ordinance
has
been
actually
harmful
to
our
immigrant
workers,
I'd
be
curious
to
know
if
anyone
knows
about
that,
so
that
we
can
sort
of
know
what
pitfalls
to
watch
out
for
as
we
move
forward.
K
As
far
as
I
know,
counselor
there
has
not
these.
These
are
the
ordinances
were
model
language,
so
they've
been
trying
to
be
successfully
better
and
stronger.
So
we
started
with
kind
of
the
basics,
with
an
executive
order
here
in
boston,
and
then
cambridge
did
an
executive
order.
Then
chelsea
did
the
actual
first
ordinance
and
there's
one
in
queen,
I
mean
so
each
one
of
them
are
slightly
different,
but
they
all
use
the
same
stock
kind
of
concepts
and
language.
K
The
the
one
in
somerville
is
actually
the
strongest,
and
the
thing
I
think
is
that
the
added
some
of
this
language,
I
think
that
the
carpenters
added
around
specifically
tips
and
some
other
pieces,
and
so
there
has
been
in
fact
I'm
inviting
tren
to
go
over
to
somerville
to
try
to
help
them
do
some
implementation,
because
the
experiences
that
boston
has
had
is
actually
around
opera
operationalizing,
whether
it
was
an
ordinance
or
executive
order.
K
It's
actually
boston
has
done
the
best
job
across
the
across
the
board,
so
trent
is
being
invited,
or
I
am
making
her
come
to
some
of
these
meetings
so
that
she
can
share
how
we
can.
Each
city
can
actually
operationalize
these
executive
orders
and
ordinances.
K
Your
question,
but
so
no
my
experience,
my
understanding
is:
there
has
been
no
adverse
effect
based
on
our
wage
theft,
ordinances
on
immigrant
workers.
J
And
if
I,
if
I
may,
we
worked
pretty
closely
with
gbls
brian
flynn
at
gbls
on
the
somerville
ordinance.
But
I
think
darlene's
point
is,
is
an
important
one.
It's
it's.
You
know
it's
one
thing
to
have
these
ordinances
on
the
books
and
it's
another
thing
to
actually
implement
them
and
operationalize
them.
As
darlene
said,
and
in
that
respect
again
I
think
it's
worth
keeping
in
mind
that
these
are
tools
designed
to
give
the
city
tools
to
do
things
and
to
the
extent
they
give
the
city
tools.
J
The
city
does
have
you
know
some
discretion
in
how
it
it
operationalizes
these
things
and
enforces
them,
and
you
know
I
think,
there's
you
know,
there's
got
to
be
some
room
for
operationalizing
them
in
ways
that
don't
unintentionally
affect
people
that
that
we
were
really
not
intending
to
to
harm.
J
But
these
are
things
you
know
we're
going
to
have
to
sit
down,
and
you
know
talk
talk
together
and
work
out.
You
know
privately
and
in
a
working
group,
and
you
know
I'm
sure
we
can
make
some
progress.
A
Thank
you
counselor
louis
jen.
Do
you
have
any
further
questions.
I
A
Thank
you,
council
president
flynn.
The
floor
is
yours,.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
apologize
for
being
late
at
a
prior
engagement,
but
but
I'll
certainly
review
I'll,
certainly
review
the
the
video,
but
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
panelists
for
the
important
work
they're
doing
on
this
issue.
Wage
theft
is
a
serious
and
significant
problem
in
our
state
and
country.
L
Anyone
that
engages
in
wage
theft
of
of
workers
exploiting
workers
should
really
have
no
no
pot
working
in
the
city
city
of
boston,
especially
you
know.
This
is
a
city
that
stands
up
for
workers
and
worker
rights
and
for
someone
to
come
in
here
and
not
pay
their
workers.
A
decent
wage
not
give
them
give
the
workers
their
their
fair
share.
Their
fair
wage
withhold
it.
You
know
they
should
not
be
welcomed
back
here
on
any
project,
regardless
of
how
big
it
is
or
how
small
it
is.
That's
how
serious
this
issue
is.
L
The
it's
exploiting
immigrants,
boston
has
a
long
and
proud
history
of
standing
up
for
workers
rights,
but
also
for
immigrant
rights
too,
and
when
we,
when
we
steal
five
cents
off
anybody,
that's
that's
really
showing
a
terrible,
a
terrible
example
for
anyone
else
to
follow
that,
even
though
it
might
be
five
cents,
you
know
will
overlook
that.
We
shouldn't
overlook
anything
in
this
city
when
it
comes
to
wage
theft.
L
So
I
I
have
a
lot
of
development
that
takes
place
in
my
district
and
if,
if
I
found
out
that
some
company
was
exploiting
workers,
I'd
I'd
demand
an
investigation
immediately
about
it,
and
I
wouldn't
want
to
see
that
company
working
in
the
city
of
boston.
That's
how
that's
how
serious
this
issue
is.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
makers
for
bringing
this
forward.
I
also
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
greater
boston
labor
council.
L
I
know
darlene
is
here
on
on
the
call,
but
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
greater
boston,
labor
council
and
their
partners
as
well.
They
work
with
a
lot
of
partners
in
the
in
the
throughout
the
city,
special
civil
rights
partners,
so
I
want
to
highlight
the
incredible
work:
greater
boston,
labor,
council,
mass
afl
and
our
building
trades
play.
I
see
I
see
my
friend
jamie
mcneill
from
local
26.
L
You
know
a
lot
of
these.
A
lot
of
these
non-union
hotels
that
we
have
in
in
the
city
are
exploiting
their
workers
and
they're,
not
they're,
not
treating
them
fairly,
they're,
not
treating
them
with
respect
they're,
not
treating
them
with
dignity,
many
of
them.
Many
of
them
are
immigrants.
But
thank
thank
thank
god.
We
have
a
union
like
unite
26
that
stands
up
for
full
workers
and
worker
rights,
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
again
to
the
people
that
are
involved
in
this
issue.
A
Thank
you,
president
flynn.
That
means
that
it's
now
my
time
to
say
thank
you
to
all
of
you,
but
also
one
of
the
things
that
I
love
about.
A
The
labor
movement
is
the
labor
movement
includes
all
workers,
including
folks
who
are
not
in
unions,
even
though
I
I
highly
recommend
it,
and
you
should
try
to
get
them
one,
but
basically,
when
we're
doing
this,
one
of
the
things
that
jumped
out
to
me
with
this,
which
was
lots
of
help
from
the
carpenters
union
and
the
language
of
the
way
that
they
specialize
it,
but
the
expertise
there
is
obviously
with
contractors
and
construction
and
in
that
realm,
and
I
think
we
have
an
equal
problem
in
hospitality
and
in
our
restaurant
industries,
where
there
aren't
you
know.
A
Obviously,
in
our
union
hotels.
This
is
not
an
issue
because
they
have
a
union
there
to
advocate
for
them,
but
in
our
non-hotels
it
is
and
for
our
restaurants,
I
think
the
vast
majority
of
which,
if
not
all,
are
non-union.
It
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
like
to
do
is
with
this
vehicle.
A
With
this
ordinance,
I
fully
expect
the
council
to
approve
this,
and
so
the
the
thing
I
would
like
to
do
is
extend
as
many
protections
to
as
many
people
as
we
can
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
thinking
about,
and
I
know
we
still
have
directed
in
the
end.
So
if
this
is
an
appropriate
question
for
you,
maybe
then
you
can
field
it,
but
the
question
specifically,
and
I
think
either
darlene
or
or
jamie
you
might
be
the
best
ones
to
answer
it
is.
A
We
know
that
there's
stop
work,
orders
and
things
we
can
do
in
construction
to
penalize
folks
who
penalize
folks
who
do
violate
wage
step
laws
and
things
of
that
nature.
What
are
the
kinds
of
things
we
can
tie
to
an
ordinance
if
we
wanted
to
say
put
some
some
version
of
a
stop
work
order
for
a
restaurant
or
a
bar
or
a
hotel
that
is
not
doing
right
by
their
workers.
A
What
are
the
kinds
of
mechanisms
where
they
need
city
approvals
or
they
need
the
city
to
allow
something
to
happen
where
we
can
say,
look
if
you
have
a
documented
history
of
this,
we're
not
doing
that.
What
are
the
sort
of
stop
work,
order
versions
of
that
for
that
world,
and
I
see
that
you've
unmuted
jamie,
so
I'm
going
to
let
you
go
first
on
that.
F
Thank
you,
council,
and
thank
you
for
the
question.
Thank
you,
president
flynn,
as
well
for
those
those
kind
of
remarks
and
and
counselor
lujan,
so
the
the
the
main
things
we're
talking
about
here.
You
know
it's
the
licensing
board
for
our
industries.
It's
two
particular
licenses,
an
in-holder's
license,
which
I
believe
the
city
has
fairly
wide
discretion
about
who
gets
to
hold
an
holder's
license.
F
I
I
don't
have
the
language
in
front
of
me,
but
it's
something
like
you
know
the
city
may
revoke
or
not
not
free
up
a
a
holder's
license
based
on
bad
behavior.
It's
something
like
something
along
those
those
lines,
so
it's
fairly
wide
discretion.
F
The
other
license
that
would
that
we're
talking
about
is
a
is
a
is
a
pouring
license
and
just
to
speak
plainly
I
mean
we
revoke
or
or
put
holds
on
on
these
licenses
for
fights
right
for
for
crimes
that
may
have
been
committed
at
a
bar.
We
saw
one
across
from
city
hall.
Over
the
weekend.
We
see
bad
behavior
being
punished
when
it
comes
to.
You
know
excessive
noise,
if
there's
an
entertainment
license.
So
all
these
bad
behaviors
are
routinely
punished.
F
F
You
know
a
loud
speaker
or
somebody
getting
into
a
fight
outside
the
bar
and
certainly
when
it
comes
to
hotels
as
well.
If
those
licenses
are
revoked
or
suspended
until
the
problem
is
dealt
with,
the
problems
will
be
dealt
with
almost
immediately.
It's
it's.
It's
guaranteed.
You
can
I'm
not
a
betting
person,
but
I'll
I'll
bet.
I'll
bet
I'll
bet
some
some
money
on
that.
F
So
so
that
would
be
my
suggestion
and
my
recommendation,
and
you
know,
like
I
said
I
think,
there's
fairly
broad
discretion
around
any
preemption
issues
or
any
issues
like
that
for
the
city
to
actually
wield
its
power
that
it
currently
has
and
just
apply
this
to
that
bad
behavior.
A
And
I
I
think
I
I
fully
agree
with
that.
I
think
that's.
What
I
would
like
to
see
us
do
in
the
working
sessions
is
create
language
that
brings
in
those
sort
of
industries
in
that
way,
because
the
reality
is
people
in
these
industries
when
they're,
stealing
wages
and
they're
doing
that
they
do
that,
because
they
know
that
these
workers
generally
don't
have
an
outlet
to
go
to,
and
so,
if
we
have
a
way
for
that
to
happen.
A
Frankly,
I
think
in
the
example
that
you
use
when
there
are
fights
at
a
bar
or
at
a
club
or
at
a
restaurant
or
there's
some
kind
of
incident,
they
are
escalators
like
if
it's
a
if
it's
an
ongoing
issue,
we
tend
to
take
that
into
account
on
following
subsequent
offenses,
and
so
I
think
there
is
a
way
to
to
wrap
this
into
that,
because
you
know
stealing,
wages
is
as
much
a
crime
as
allowing
somebody
to
leave
your
business,
overly
intoxicated
or
to
have
a
fight
in
your
business.
A
In
fact,
in
my
opinion,
wage
step
is
almost
you're
more
responsible
for
that
in
many
ways
than
if
there's
a
fight
that
happens
in
the
front
of
your
building,
that
you
have
much
more
control
over
whether
or
not
you
are
stealing
somebody's
wages.
And
so
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
I
think
we
should
be
trying
to
rope
in
and
then
I'll
be
trying
to
expand
this
out
to
and
so
in
the
working
sessions.
A
Just
a
heads
up
for
everybody
that
I
think
that's
that's
what
you've
hit
on
is
kind
of
what
I
was
thinking.
I
don't
know
if
there's
another
avenue
that
I
wouldn't
know
about
I'm
open
to
hearing
about
those,
because
as
many
avenues
as
we
have
to
rein
that
in
I'd
love
to
do
it's
hard
enough
out
here
for
working
folks
without
having
their
their
salaries
and
their
wages
stolen
or
their
tips
stolen.
And
so
I
see
that
you
are
muted
darlene.
K
Yeah,
I
did
thank
you
counselor.
I
did
want
to
just
add
that
I
I
will,
before
these
workers
working
sessions,
try
to
have
conversations
with
as
many
of
our
unions
that
are
impacted
directly
in
other
worker
centers,
in
particular,
for
example.
I
know
we
didn't
bring
this.
I
brought
up
property
services,
in
particular
the
janitorial
industry,
that
is,
that
is
a
very
rampant
wage
theft
with
a
contracted
and
subcontracted
model
as
well
just
one
example.
I
just
want
to
share
very
quickly.
K
We
essentially
did
a
stop
work
order
by
default
when
la
collaborativa,
flatis
vega
and
the
worker
center
there
partnered,
with
all
of
us,
our
unions,
to
shut
down
the
amc
lows
by
having
an
action
there.
If
you
guys
remember
this,
this
is
one
of
our
very
first
wage
theft
actions,
150
people
crowded
into
that
theater
because
they
were
not
paying
their
their
six
janitors,
who
were
cleaning
the
theaters
and
the
ag
had
repeatedly
cited
them
fines
and
they
had
not
paid
them
within
24
hours.
K
There
was
a
check
on
gladys's
door
after
that
action
and
essentially
what
just
an
example
that
what
jamie
said
is
that
when
they
do
stop
work,
orders
are
important.
We
essentially
stop
their
work
for
a
couple
hours
and
within
24
hours
their
wages
were
paid
so.
A
Yeah,
I
think,
that's
incredibly
important.
I
would
also
do
that-
probably
security
as
well
right,
because
we
have
security
that
are
contracting
subcontracted
by
these
buildings
that
are
probably
also
subject
to
the
same
kinds
of
problems,
and
so
I
appreciate
that
darling
that
you
will
reach
out
to
them
and
do
that
at
this
time
I
want
to
give
counselors
before
we
go
to
public
comment
a
chance
to
do
a
closing.
I
know.
A
Obviously,
counselors
will
stay
for
the
public
comment,
but
I
don't
know
if
the
unions
that
are
currently
represented
here
now
will
stay
for
public
comments.
I
want
to
give
folks
a
chance
to
say
their
their
final
comments
and
whatever
they
would
like
to
say.
So,
I'm
going
to
start
with
council
media.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
councillor
arroyo
for
sharing
this,
and
also
for
always
being
my
co-sponsor
on
all
things
that
are
going
to
cause
mass
disruption,
because
that's
what
these
times
require
and
just
really
grateful
for
the
panelists
and
not
just
your
thought
leadership,
but
really
being
super.
Mindful
of
some
of
the
unintended
consequences
that
some
of
these
things
can
happen,
if
we're
not
doing
our
dual
diligence
and
making
sure
that
we
are
every
single
little
loophole
that
potentially
other
folks
may
want
to
use
that
we
put
a
stop
to
it.
B
B
Yes,
you
work
for
the
city,
but
your
job,
and
and
and
how
you
are
so
committed
to
the
labor
workforce
is
just
so
incredibly
refreshing
because
oftentimes
we
show
up
in
these
spaces
and
we
get
a
lot
of
lip
service
and
I
think
with
you
every
space
that
we've
been
in
in
terms
of
hearings.
You
always
just
speak
in
plain
language,
right
things
that
we
can
understand
and,
more
importantly,
that
those
who
are
tuning
in
understand
your
commitment.
B
So
you
know
we
are
just
deeply
appreciative
of
you
and
how
you
always
show
up
and
to
our
labor
partners.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
deep
partnership.
We
can
only
do
this
if
we're
all
working
and
rolling
in
the
same
boat
and
not
poking
holes,
so
that
we
can
all
drown
so
really
do
appreciate
your
your
partnership
and
just
a
special
shout
out
to
the
carpenters
for
working
alongside
our
offices,
to
bring
this
to
to
the
attention
of
our
colleagues
and
as
counselor
atoyo
said.
B
We
are
committed
to
expediting
this
and
and
moving
in
I'm
confident
that
our
colleagues
are
all
on
board
and
we'll
be
able
to
pass
this
ordinance
and,
more
importantly,
to
trends
on
point
making
sure
that
we
are
building
the
infrastructure
and
the
financial
support
that
you
need
to
be
able
to
execute
against
these
deliverables.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
councilman.
Thank
you
as
well
for
your
partnership
on
this.
I
don't
know
if
councillor
louisiana
has
any
closing
statements.
She
would
like
to
make
no.
I
Well,
basically,
just
want
to
just
say
thank
you
thank
you
to
trent.
We
haven't
met
yet,
but
I
have
seen
you
today
and
at
the
panel
that
we
had
the
other
day
regarding
powercore
and
excited
that
to
work
together
and
with
all
the
energy
and
truth
that
you
bring
to
the
position
and
obviously
to
all
of
our
partners
in
labor
for
the
work
you're
doing.
I'm
excited
you
know
to
think
about
how
this
is.
I
You
know
getting
those
past
things
to
the
chair,
of
course,
and
the
sponsors
here,
but
also
to
see
how
we
operate,
how
we
operationalize
it
in
a
way
that
maximizes
the
impact
on
the
people
we're
trying
to
protect.
So
thank
you
so
much.
A
Thank
you,
council,
louisiana
and
councillor
president
council,
president
ed
flynn,
if
you
have
anything
like
that.
L
Thank
you,
counselor
royal.
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
just
want
to
echo
my
colleagues
also
to
tren
for
the
incredible
work
that
you
have
done
over
the
many
years.
So
it's
always
always
a
pleasure
working
with
you,
trent
and
with
with
your
team
as
well
just
want
to
also
say,
as
I
mentioned,
the
the
role
of
organized
labor
in
this
debate.
But
what
what
I
respect
about
organized
labor,
especially,
is
the
advocacy
of
all
workers,
regardless
of
regardless,
if
they're
in
a
union
or
not
in
a
union.
L
There
was
an
issue
at
the
four
seasons.
I
worked
with
my
city
council
colleagues
in
local
26.
they're,
not
union
workers,
but
they
were.
They
didn't
get
a
fair
severance
in
in
the
union
that
the
organization
that
really
worked
with
us,
representing
and
advocating
for
the
workers
was
was
local.
26.
L
They're
also
going
back
the
greater
boston,
labor
council,
the
carpenters
union,
and
so
many
others
for
the
workers
at
the
marriott
copley
hotel,
making
sure
that
they're
they're
advocating
for
those
workers
because
they're
not
being
treated
with
respect
or
dignity.
So
that's
what
I
that's.
L
I
worked
with
the
chinese
progressive
association
on
a
bad
actor
that
was
exploiting
workers
at
a
restaurant
in
cambridge
and
you
know,
cpa
went
to
went
to
bat,
and
I
I
supported
them
in
cambridge
was
an
immigrant
worker,
but
I
also
want
to
thank
not
only
organized
labor
but
a
lot
of
these
civil
rights
and
community
partners
that
do
do
tremendous
work
in
our
city,
such
as
the
chinese,
progressive
association.
L
So,
having
said
that,
I'm
on
board,
I
also
want
to
recognize
all
the
calls
I
received
from
various
supporters
of
working
men
and
women
across
boston.
I
won't
name
them,
but
I'm
glad
they
weighed
in
on
this
debate.
Thank
you,
mr
cheo.
A
Thank
you
and
we
have
other
unions
that
are
waiting
to
do
public
testimony,
so
we're
gonna
go
to
our
public
testimony,
but
I
also
want
to
just
thank
our
panel
and
bank
director
nguyen
for
staying
throughout
this
whole
thing.
We
have
several
folks
for
public
testimony,
I'd
like
to
bring
into
the
room
now
so
that
they
can
actually
speak.
We
have,
and
I'm
gonna
name
the
name
so
that
carrie
or
whoever
in
central
staff
and
by
the
way,
thank
you
to
central
staff
for
all.
A
You
do
to
make
these
things
possible,
but
we
have
pablo
ruiz
from
32bj
seiu
and
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what
name
mr
ruiz
might
be
under
al
vega,
from
mass
kosh
john
cusack,
not
the
actor.
I
I'm
presuming
and
joe
o'brien
from
the
carpenters
union,
and
so
if
we
can
just
let
the
public
comment
folks
in
and
we
can
start
with
al
vega.
A
Oh
you're,
muted
out
vega
and
I
see
counselor
flaherty-
has
shown
up
and
has
his
hand
up
if
you're,
okay
with
me
going
to
you
after
public
testimony
mike.
M
Yes,
yeah.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Just
I
was
hosting
the
boston
year
13,
so
my
apologies
for
joining
late,
but
I'm
well
aware
of
the
issue.
I've
been
working,
obviously
with
you
as
the
chair
and
council
president
flynn
and
our
friends
in
the
trade.
So
it's
a
real
issue
and
I'm
just
here
to
add
my
name
and
voice
to
the
chorus
and
anything
I
can
do
to
be
helpful
to
put
an
end
to
the
wage
theft.
Count
me
in.
A
Thank
thank
you,
counselor
clarity,
and
so
normally
I
tell
folks
who
are
here
for
public
comment.
They
have
two
minutes,
but
I'm
gonna
give
you
all
a
little
bit
more
time
than
that,
because
we
have
a
set
number
and
so
should
be
fine.
So,
mr
vega,
if
we
can
start
with
you
great,
thank
you
so
much
councillor
arroyo.
G
Council
arroyo,
councillor
mejia
and
members
of
the
boston
city
council
committee
on
government
operations.
Thank
you
again
for
this
opportunity
to
testify.
Today.
My
name
is
al
vega,
I'm
the
director
of
policy
and
programs
at
mass
kosh,
the
massachusetts
coalition
for
occupational
safety
and
health.
We
are
a
46
year
old
worker
safety
and
health
rights,
non-profit
whose
mission
is
to
ensure
that
all
workers
can
earn
a
fair
wage,
be
treated
with
dignity
and
respect
and
be
able
to
go
home
to
their
families
alive
and
well,
and
free
of
workplace,
injury
and
illness.
G
Mascot
is
pleased
about
and
supportive
of
this
council's
efforts
in
undertaking
steps
to
update
and
expand
the
city's
2014
executive
order
establishing
requirements
for
city
contracts
in
an
effort
to
prevent
wage
death.
Every
week,
employers
fail
to
pay
for
the
labor
of
the
workers,
who
are
members
of
our
immigrant
worker
center
and
for
the
labor
of
their
colleagues,
neighbors
and
other
family
members,
many
who
are
often
working
for
less
than
a
living
wage.
G
While
we
strongly
believe
more
needs
to
be
done
to
protect
workers
from
wage
staff,
we
again
just
want
to
reiterate
some
of
those
language
concerns
that
have
been
mentioned
already
today
that
are
in
this
proposal
that
could
again
potentially
have
those
unintended
and
unforeseen
impacts
on
some
of
our
cities.
Immigrant
working
communities,
as
well
as
those
from
municipalities
within
greater
boston.
G
These
concerns
are
included
in
more
detailed
and
written
comments
that
our
partners
at
gbls
have
made
available
to
this
committee
and
have
were
mentioned
by
gbls
as
many
of
those
local
worker
center
partners
and
advocates
who
also
want
to
express
those
concerns.
In
this
regard.
We
hope
that
the
council
will
draw
from
recent
policy
and
practice
statements
from
a
number
of
federal
agencies
again.
G
We
are
hopeful
that
whatever
language
is
ultimately
approved
by
this
council
that
immigrant
workers
know
they
will
not
be
used
as
scapegoats
by
unscrupulous
employers
or
retaliated
or
discriminated
against
for
being
systemically
oppressed
and
limited
by
current
immigration
and
employment
law
that
perpetuates
the
wage
theft
cycle
we
have
all
referenced
today.
Mascots
would
also
like
to
speak
in
support
of
the
safety
concerns
and
history
section
of
the
proposed
ordinance.
G
This
section
is
almost
identical
to
current
language
found
in
section
16,
a
1.2
safety
concerns
in
history
and
5
5.30
conditions
and
license
of
permits
of
the
city
of
boston
municipal
code.
This
language
was
added
to
the
municipal
code
after
the
tragic
death
of
kevin
chuck,
maddox
and
robert
higgins
in
a
trench
incident
in
the
south
end
in
2016..
G
The
osha
investigation
of
the
incident
revealed
that
the
company
atlantic
drain
was
considered
by
osha
to
be
a
severe
violator
and
working
with
mask
osha
and
the
metro,
bus
and
building
trades
council
among
many
others.
The
city
developed
this
language
to
ensure
that
it
had
a
mechanism
to
prevent
companies
with
a
record
of
unsafe
working
conditions
from
receiving
permits
in
our
city.
This
crucial
safety
and
health
language
should
be
recognized
as
it's
currently
in
effect,
but
it
also
shouldn't
be
buried
at
the
end
of
a
long
ordinance
almost
entirely
focused
on
wage
theft.
G
A
Thank
you,
mr
vega,
and
changing
the
the
heading
is
actually
something
we
can
do
changing
the
name
of
the
ordinance
and,
frankly,
the
events
of
last
week.
I
think,
highlight
again
because
that
is
not
the
first
event
in
in
the
three
years
that
I've
been
on
the
council
that
highlight
the
dangerousness
and
the
worker
safety
requirements.
So
that
is
something
we
can
certainly
look
at
in
the
working
sessions,
and
I
thank
you
for
bringing
that
here
today.
A
Mr
joe
o'brien,
the
floor
is
yours
and
if
you
can
just
state
your
name
affiliation
and
then
go
right
into
your
testimony.
Thank
you.
So.
N
Much
councillor,
my
name
is
joe
o'brien,
I'm
the
political
and
legislative
director
for
the
north
atlantic
states,
regional
council
of
carpenters.
We
represent
30
thousand
carpenters
across
seven
states
and,
as
mentioned
by
chris
soros,
we
also
proudly
stand
with
our
brothers
and
sisters
in
the
construction
industry,
whether
union
or
non-union
to
fight
for
their
rights
every
day.
We
want
to
thank
council
arroyo
and
councilman
here
for
their
leadership,
putting
this
forward
as
well
as
our
friends
on
this
call.
N
Members
of
the
council,
especially
council
ruthie
I
and
councillor
flynn
and
other
members
of
the
committee,
as
well
as
all
the
counselors
who
are
working
hard
to
fight
for
workers
here
in
the
city
of
boston,
wage
staff,
tax
fraud
and
misclassification
of
workers
is
a
epidemic
across
our
country,
and
I
want
to
speak
just
for
a
couple
minutes
how
this
impacts
our
industry,
how
it
impacts,
responsible
contractors,
workers
and
taxpayers.
N
First
of
all,
our
construction
industry
has
been
devastated
by
wage
staff,
tax
fraud
and
misclassification
workers.
As
many
of
you
know,
the
construction
industry
historically
provided
opportunities
for
folks
with
less
education
to
enter
the
middle
class.
Sadly,
over
the
last
number
of
decades
that
has
been
eroded
by
many
of
these
practices.
N
A
recent
study
by
the
university
of
california
in
berkeley
actually
found
that
four
in
ten
construction
workers
today
have
to
rely
on
some
type
of
public
assistance
to
get
through
their
monthly
life
and
it's
a
real
epidemic
that
has
driven
down
wages
and
made
life
hard
for
our
industry
and
and
closed
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
people
across
our
country.
Second,
the
impact
that
this
wage
staff
misclassification
and
has
on
our
responsible
contractors.
N
Sadly,
today
hundreds
of
contractors
across
the
the
commonwealth
and
thousands
across
the
country
engage
in
wage
theft
and
misclassification
and
take
advantage
of
workers.
They
do
this.
It
was
mentioned
by
chris
soros
because
it
provides
an
economic
advantage
and
is
a
penalty
on
responsible
contractors.
It's
estimated
today
that
responsible
contractors
who
play
by
the
rules
paying
payroll
taxes,
unemployment
participating
in
workmen's
compensation
system
have
to
pay
now
30
percent
more
than
those
that
don't
putting
them
at
a
real
disadvantage
in
the
marketplace.
N
Our
study
done
by
umass
amherst,
found
that
here
in
massachusetts
in
the
residential
contractor
sector
alone,
there's
more
than
100
million
dollars
of
lost
revenue
in
tax
payments
to
the
commonwealth,
to
payments
into
the
unemployment
fund,
payments
into
workman's
compensation
system
more
than
a
hundred
million
dollars.
Just
in
that
one
sector,
the
residential
construction
sector
and
the
authors
of
that
study
think
it's
a
very
low
estimate.
As
mentioned,
there
are
some
real
actions
that
the
the
city
has
already
done.
N
Good
work
in
this
under
the
leadership
of
the
council
and
the
previous
mayor,
and
we
think
this
ordinance
can
be
stronger.
It's
been
mentioned
by
a
number
of
speakers.
There
are
good
examples
of
local
wage
theft,
ordinances
passed
in
somerville
lynn
and
in
other
cities
around
new
england
like
providence
and
portland
real
quickly.
On
summary,
the
key
elements
to
help
strengthen
the
construction
sector
number
one,
this
ability
to
pull
back
or
to
temporarily
suspend
building
permits
which
will
really
send
a
real,
significant
messaging
to
irresponsible
contractors.
N
Second,
climb
back
of
tax
tax
benefits
and
public
benefits,
and
the
last
pieces
mentioned
by
chris.
We
think
it's
really
important
to
go
even
further
use
this
crisis
as
an
opportunity
to
further
expand
opportunities
for
people
in
boston
by
explaining
opportunities
to
apprenticeship.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
once
again,
council
royal
for
your
leadership
and
council
mejia
and
all
the
members
of
the
council
that
are
on
this
call
and
that
have
been
working
on
this
issue
with
us.
N
A
Thank
you,
mr
o'brien,
and
I'm
gonna
go
to.
It
looks
like
our
last
public
comment.
Here
is
john
cusack.
O
Good
afternoon
yeah
just
afternoon
I
was
gonna
echo
some
of
the
opening
statements
from
the
people
who
brought
this
forward.
Councilor
mejia
stated
it
so
plainly
it
was
it
was.
It
was
wonderful.
This
is
financial
abuse.
O
Counselor
arroyo
brought
a
brought
up
a
point
that
was
that
was
repeated
by
mr
vega,
from
maskosh
people,
whose
business
plan
is
based
on
not
paying.
People
are
not
inclined
to
prioritize
worker
safety.
It's
it's,
it's
not
something,
it's
not
something,
that's
even
in
the
top
five.
I
want
to
echo
darlene
and
jamie.
O
This
is
about
the
values
that
we
have
in
the
city
of
boston
and
seeing
to
it
that
there
is
a
political
will,
and
today
has
shown
so
clearly
what
the
political
will
is,
and
it's
jamie's
point.
You
know
there
are
things
in
place
and
if
you
bring
attention
to
the
problem,
if
the
problem's
dealt
with
the
problem
will
go
away,
I
want
to
thank
everyone
involved
for
everything
they
put
into
this
to
echo
counselor
box
opening
statement.
There's
a
local
opportunity
to
help
correct.
O
You
know
basically
a
violation
of
the
us
constitution.
I
understand
the
state
has:
has
oversight
the
federal
government
as
oversight,
but
the
chance
to
live
in
a
city
to
to
to.
I
think
it
was
down
these
points.
O
To
me,
this
gold
standard
is
is
is
something
I
I'm
so
happy
to
see
us
moving
forward
with
one
point
I
do
want
to
make
then
I'll
hopefully
be
under
two
minutes:
the
apprenticeship
component
and
the
prjp,
I'm
a
lifelong
boston,
resident
brjp
and
the
the
opportunity
to
have
an
apprenticeship
where
I
was
trained
in
the
skills
I
have
today.
It
was
it
altered
my
life.
It
altered
the
trajectory
of
my
life,
it'll,
translate
my
children's
lives
and,
as
a
first
generation
american
it
altered.
O
My
parents
lives.
It
changed.
My
parents
lives
for
the
better.
It's
it's
a
incredibly
important
component
paired
with
the
prgp
I'm
by
the
grace
of
god,
I'm
in
a
position
now
where
I
can
help
men
and
women
in
the
city
of
boston.
O
Enjoy
what
I've
enjoyed
so
with
that
again,
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
all
their
work.
I
want
to
thank
council,
flaherty,
council,
lucien
and
councillor
flynn
for
for
coming
on
again
thanks
again.
A
Thank
you
and
I'm
glad
that
you
are
the
position
you're
in
today.
I'm
grateful
for
everybody
who
gave
public
testimony,
and
I
I
do
believe
that
is
it.
I'm
just
gonna,
make
sure
make
sure
nobody
gets
left
behind
nope
everybody
is
good,
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
counselors
who
stayed
on
councilman
councillor.
Lee
jen
are
both
still
here.
Thank
you
to
director
nguyen.
Thank
you,
council,
president
flynn
as
well.
A
Thank
you
to
director
nguyen
and
thank
you
to
all
of
our
panelists
david
mcneil
from
local
26,
darlene
lombos
from
the
greater
boston,
labor
council
and
christopher
source
from
the
carpenters,
and
so
thank
you,
everybody
for
your
additions,
we're
going
to
attempt
to
get
working
sessions
in
this
month
on
this
ordinance
so
that
we
can
start
to
push
this
through
and
there's
gonna
be
some
language
changes.
I
think
most
of
the
things
that
have
been
offered
in
this
hearing
have
been
very
helpful.
A
I
think
the
idea
here
for
everybody
is
to
maximize
benefit
for
workers
and
minimize
any
collateral
harm
that
any
language
could
cause
that,
I
don't
think
is
intended,
and
so,
when
we're
in
the
working
sessions,
I
think
we
can
tailor
this
and
tighten
this
up,
because
I
think
everybody
shares
the
same
exact
goals,
which
is
to
ensure
that
we're
creating
the
strongest
possible
worker,
wage
theft
and
safety
protections
possible
in
in
this
ordinance
that
we
are
able
to
do,
and
so
I
thank
everybody
for
your
your
years
of
advocacy
on
this
and
for
getting
us
in
a
position
today
where
we
can
get
this
through.
A
So
thank
you
to
all
of
you
for
your
time.
I'm
gonna,
let
you
all
go
now
at
12
10,
and
thank
you
to
the
folks
who
stuck
through
the
public
comment.
I
appreciate
all
of
you.
Thank
you.