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Docket #0312 - Message and ordinance amending the City of Boston Code, Ordinances, Chapter XVI, regarding targeted residential picketing
A
Operations,
it
is
monday
march
14th
2022,
and
we
are
here
today
for
a
virtual
hearing
on
docket
number
312
messaging
ordinance
amending
the
city
of
boston
code
ordinances,
chapter
16
regarding
targeted
residential
picketing.
I
referred
to
the
committee
referring
to
the
committee
march
2
on
march,
2nd
2022.
A
The
docket
will
be
sponsored
by
the
mayor
in
accordance
with
chapter
20,
of
the
acts
of
2021
modifying
certain
requirements
of
the
local
meeting,
lawn
relieving
public
duties,
public
bodies
of
certain
requirements,
including
the
requirements
that
public
bodies
conduct
its
meetings
in
public
place,
that
it
is
open
and
physically
accessible
to
the
public.
The
city
council
will
be
conducting
this
hearing
virtually
be
assumed
and
it
is
being
recorded.
A
This
enables
the
city
council
to
carry
out
its
responsibilities
well
with
gearing
to
do
public
health,
accommodations
and
ensuring
public
access
to
its
deliberations
through
adequate
alternative
means.
The
public
may
watch
this
hearing
via
live
stream
at
www.boston.gov,
slash
city
council
tv
and
on
xfinity
8
rcn
82,
verizon
964..
A
A
At
boston.gov
and
will
be
made
a
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors
public
testimony
will
be
taken.
At
the
end
of
this
hearing,
I
am
joined
by
my
council
colleagues
this
morning:
councilor
aaron
murphy,
councillor,
russian
councilor,
kenzie
bach,
councillor,
liz
braden,
counselor,
tanya,
fernandez,
anderson
counselor,
michael
flaherty,
and
counselor
julia
mejia.
A
We
are
also
joined
by
chief
brianna
miller
from
the
office
of
community
engagement
before
I
give
my
council
colleagues
the
chance
to
give
their
introductory
remarks,
I'd
like
to
mention
that
the
committee
received
a
letter
from
the
law
department
who
were
invited
to
participate
in
this
hearing
that
letter
was
sent
out
to
counselors
this
morning
will
be
included
as
part
of
the
public
record.
The
department
cites
a
similar
ordinance,
which
was
upheld
in
the
case
of
frisbee
v
schultz
and
found
to
be
lawful.
A
The
that
case
sets
the
standard
for
this
kind
of
legislation.
The
department
specified
that
the
ordinance
before
this
body
is
not
content
specific
and
leaves
open
channels
of
communication.
The
department
also
reiterated
that
the
goal
is
to
protect
the
privacy
of
residents
in
their
homes
now
by
order
of
arrival
I'll
turn
over
to
my
council
colleagues,
starting
with,
I
believe,
council
murphy
may
be
here,
but
I've
received
a
phone
call
from
her
this
morning
to
counselor
russian.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
for
everyone
for
being
here.
I
look
forward
to
listening
to
this
conversation,
I'm
at
large
city
council
recently
here
to
looking
forward
to
this
conversation
on
the
ordinance.
As
we
all
know,
the
right
to
join
with
others
in
protest
is
critical
to
our
democracy.
B
It's
critical
to
fighting
for
change
for
the
common
good
in
its
core
and
as
a
core
first
amendment
principle,
but
even
before
our
constitution,
we
have
the
mass
constitution
that
says
people
have
a
right
in
an
orderly
and
peaceable
manner
to
assemble,
to
consult
upon
the
public
good.
B
So
we
know
that
the
right
to
protest,
the
right
to
assemble
is
a
crucial
legal,
cultural,
political
protection,
especially
for
dissenting
and
marginalized
groups
like
abolitionists
suffragists,
suffragists,
religious
groups,
labor
and
civil
rights
groups,
but
it's
not
completely
unconditional
and
the
government
can
impose
content
neutral,
regional
time,
placement
manager,
manner,
restrictions-
and
you
know
we
shouldn't
take
any
of
these
restrictions
lightly,
and
I
don't
take
this
ordinance
lightly
at
all.
B
But
I
do
believe-
and
you
know
potentially
there's
room
for
change,
but
the
ordinance
is
narrowly
tailored
banning
targeted
residential
protests.
Only
from
9
p.m
to
9
00
a.m.
On
this
narrow
boat
in
scope,
a
protest
focused
on
one
person's
home
in
the
wee
hours
of
the
night
or
morning,
but
I
know
this
ordinance
as
it
should
if
anything
on
the
first
amendment
should
sparks
rigorous
debate,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
all
of
you
regarding
this
ordinance.
So
thank
you,
mr
chair
again,.
C
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
everyone
for
being
here.
I'd
echo
counselor
legion's
comments.
I
think
that
this
is
a
super
important
area.
C
I
think
that
the
first
amendment
is
critical
for
all
of
us
and
that
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
I
do
think
that
the
ordinance
that's
been
put
before
us
is
a
very
narrowly
tailored
time,
place
and
manner
restriction,
and,
and
that
that
I
mean
that
that's
the
only
framework
in
which
this
council
should
be
looking
at
something
like
this,
but
I
do
appreciate
the
work
that
went
into
drafting
it
and
looking
forward
to
hearing
the
public
comment
today,
thanks
so
much.
Mr
chairman,.
A
Counselor
tanya
fernandez
anderson
the
floor
is
yours.
If
you'd
like
to
make
an
opening
comment.
D
Good
morning,
everyone
thank
you,
chairman
and
everyone
for
being
here
for
this
process.
I
I
have
to
say
that
I'm
still
thinking
about
specifics
to
this
the
adjustments
or
the
what
what
the
mayor
has
proposed
and
I'm
still
kind
of
on
the
fence
and
thinking
about
in
terms
of
can
we
make
these
adjustments
and
to
those
specifics.
So
I
want
to
listen
to
the
testimonies
today
and
just
observe
and
hopefully
make
the
right
decision.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
fernandez
anderson,
councillor
flaherty,
and
I
just
want
to
note
that
we've
been
joined
by
council
president
at
flynn,
council
clarity.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Look
forward
to
the
hearing.
Obviously
you
want
to
echo
the
comments
of
our
colleague,
counselor
bach
and
I'll
recognize
that
we
may
have
an
opportunity.
We
may
want
to
insert
some
sunset
clause
just
to
make
sure
that
it
doesn't
go
completely
different
direction,
so
narrowly
tailored
amendment.
I
guess
to
the
time
placement
manner
is
appropriate.
The
sunset
clause
may
give
us
further
assurance
that
it
that
it
won't
infringe
further
on
folks
rights
to
to
exercise
their
speech
and
etc.
E
A
F
Oh
good
morning,
everyone
I'm
very
pleased
to
be
at
this
hearing
this
morning.
I
think
it's
it's
time
to
have
a
a
conversation
about
about
public
protests
in
residential
neighborhoods
close
to
to
homes,
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
everyone's
point
of
view
this
morning
and
and
hearing
from
the
the
different
departments,
especially
the
law
department,
on
there
on
their
take
on
this,
I
have
to
read
the
communication
that
was
sent
by
email,
but
I
hope
to
catch
up
on
all
that
very
soon.
Thank
you
so
much.
G
Thank
you
to
the
chair
for
holding
this
hearing.
You
know,
as
elected
as
an
elected
official,
I've
had
my
fair
share
of
harassing
tweets
and
threatening
voicemails
zoom
bombings,
people
screaming
at
me
in
the
streets
and
so
on,
and
I
come
at
this
with
a
great
deal
of
personal
and
professional
lived
experiences.
G
It's
part
of
the
job,
so
I
think,
as
elected
officials,
there
is
often
an
impulse
to
want
these
kind
of
ordinances.
But
when
you
really
look
at
the
fine
print
of
an
ordinance
like
this,
you
find
that
it
really
doesn't
line
up
with
the
number
of
values
we
consider
to
be
so
important
and
in
full
transparency.
I
have
had
fundamental
problems
with
this
ordinance
because
I
couldn't
support
it
without
compromising
my
values
as
a
champion
for
all
means
all.
G
First,
I'm
concerned
about
the
unequal
enforcement
of
this
ordinance
on
organizers
of
color.
Second,
I'm
concerned
that
using
the
police
to
enforce
an
ordinance
like
this,
we
have
seen
how
the
police
in
the
past
have
cracked
down
disproportionately
on
organizers
of
color,
lgbtq
organizers
as
well.
Finally,
I'm
concerned
about
creating
legislation
just
for
the
sake
of
legislation.
G
G
I
get
the
impulse
to
want
this
ordinance,
but
we
can't
be
impulsive
with
our
values
as
elected
officials,
so
I'm
here
to
listen
and
learn
more
from
the
administration,
but
unless
we
have
some
major
fundamental
changes
to
this
ordinance,
I
am
going
to
struggle
to
support
this
measure,
so
I'm
really
hoping
that
we
can
find
some
compromise
here
on
ways
that
we
can
move
this
forward
as
well
as
ensure
that
democracy
continues
to
thrive.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you
chair.
I
want
to
start
off
by
saying
that
my
stance
on
this
issue
does
not
come
from
a
lack
of
empathy
or
what's
been
happening
outside
of
mayor
wu's
house
and
the
impact
that
it's
had
on
her
neighbors,
the
children
and
the
veterans
who
live
nearby
similar
to
california.
I
have
also
been
on
the
receiving
end
of
that
level
of
harassment
to
the
point
where
I
wasn't
allowed
to
go
door
knocking
or
into
certain
neighborhoods
on
my
own
for
a
while
during
the
campaign
because
of
the
threats
these
folks
have.
H
You
know
mayor
whose
neighbors
have
been
subjected
subjected
to
the
racist,
sexist
and
anti-semitic
messages
of
the
protest
for
well
over
nine
weeks
now,
and
so
I
definitely
understand
that
we're
at
a
at
a
in
pass.
We
have
received
dozens
of
complaints
through
3-1-1
via
email
on
social
media,
from
neighbors
who,
like
me,
have
realized
that
this
group
has
been
violating
the
city's
already
existing
ordinances
without
intervention,
mainly
the
nori's
ordinance
blocking
of
the
street
disturbing
the
peace
all
of
those
have
been
violated
and
in
a
well-documented
manner
by
this
group.
H
Boston
has
a
vibrant
youth,
organizing
and
housing
justice
movement,
both
of
which,
based
on
the
time
limitations
offered
by
the
ordinance
you'll,
be
risking
fines
by
protesting
before
school
hours,
planning,
eviction,
blockades
or
stopping
foreclosure
auctions,
all
of
which
typically
happen
in
the
wee
hours
of
the
morning.
H
I
hope
that
the
testimony
at
the
hearing
today
helps
make
it
clear
to
my
colleagues
that
this
ordinance
has
the
potential
to
be
incredibly
problematic
for
marginalized
communities.
It
creates
an
opportunity
to
criminalize
organizers
by
way
of
fines,
and
it
creates
an
information
gathering
mechanism
that
could
be
weaponized
as
surveillance
later
on.
I
don't
think
that
this
is
a
risk
that
we
should
take
it's
an
unnecessary
risk
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
the
public
and
making
amendments
that
are
in
alignment
with
the
feedback
we
hear
from
our
constituents.
H
I
Mr
chair
and
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
that
provided
positive
testimony
in
different
perspectives,
and
I
respect
everybody's
opinion
and
perspective
and
the
perspectives
you
bring
in
really
adds
to
the
discussion
in
the
subject
matter.
So
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
my
my
colleagues.
I've
also
like
maya
wu.
Well,
I
also
had
protests
at
my
house
as
the
city
council
president,
but
also
when
my
father
was
mayor
as
well.
I
You
know
there
was
a
young
young
woman
with
little
little
kids,
two
little
kids,
two
girls,
maybe
seven
or
nine
or
so,
and-
and
she
came
up
to
me
after
after
the
protest
was
gone
and
she
said
to
me
counselor
flynn.
I
I
can
really
understand
why
young
people
don't
get
involved
in
politics.
Young
people
don't
like
to
run
for
office
being
subjected
to
that
type
of
harsh
criticism.
I
You
know
calling
someone
a
communist
or
or
a
traitor,
and
then
it
was
even
more
despicable
what
they
were.
Calling
mayo
mayor
wu,
a
mother
of
two
little
kids,
and
you
know
we
want
people
to
get
engaged
in
politics
and
to
run
for
up
for
office.
I
But
can
you
imagine
a
young,
a
young
mother
or
a
young
father
that
wants
to
run
for
office
with
little
little
kids
telling
their
spouse?
You
know
I
want
to
put
my
name
on
the
ballot,
but
but
we
may
have
to
endure
this
type
of
brutal,
brutal
criticism.
So
certainly
I
agree
with
my
colleagues.
There
should
be
a
balance
and
there's
there's
room
for
compromise.
I
I
You
know
if
you
are,
if
you
are
demonstrating
at
five
o'clock
in
the
morning,
there
might
be
a
little
kid
next
to
the
elected
official,
that's
trying
to
get
to
sleep,
ready
to
wake
up
another
hour
for
school.
There
might
be
a
senior
citizen,
that's
having
trouble
sleeping
or
a
veteran
with
with
ptsd
that
might
be
dealing
with
with
sleeping
issues.
Are
there
there
might
be
a
nurse
that
work,
the
overnight
shift?
That
needs
need
some
sleep,
so
you
know,
public
protest
has
to
have
some
limits
and
it's
it's
about
respect
for
your
neighbors.
I
It's
a
respect
for
your
community
being
being
decent
people,
and
if
you
want
to
protest,
we
can
we
can
accommodate
you,
but
there
has
to
be
some
respect
on
on
the
protesters
as
well.
My
opinion
might
not
be
people
might
agree
with
it,
but
that's
just
how
I
feel
personally
about
it
so
hope
it's
helpful
to
the
discussion
not
saying
I'm
right
or
I'm
wrong,
but
that's
just
my
my
own
personal
personal
opinion.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
Thank
you,
council,
president
and
I'll
just
say
in
my
opening
that
I
also
believe
that
this
is
a
narrowly
tailored
ordinance.
It
gives
people
12
hours
of
a
day
to
to
do
this.
It
doesn't
actually
remove
them
from
9am
to
9pm.
So
that's
50
of
the
day.
You
can
pick
it
out
of
somebody's
house
if
you
so
choose,
and
I
would
just
say,
as
the
child
with
someone
who
was
an
elected
office
and
understands
sort
of
like
council
president
flynn
said
your
parent
being
challenged
in
that
way.
A
I
remember
back
in
the
time
of
land
phones,
picking
up
the
phone
to
the
death
threats
when
my
father
was
opposed
to
the
iraq
war,
and
so
there
there
have
been
a
number
of
instances
like
that,
and
I
know
that
that
those
things
weigh
heavy
on
everybody
here
in
the
sense
that
we
all
run
for
office.
We
all
pull
our
names
on
ballots.
We
are
all,
I
think,
frankly,
very
comfortable
with
engaging
with
constituents
and
and
see
that
as
part
of
our
job.
I
don't
see
that
as
the
job
of
my
neighbors.
A
I
don't
see
that
as
the
job
of
of
family
members,
who
did
not
do
that.
I
don't
see
that
as
the
job
of
other
folks
who
don't
hold
these
spaces
and
so
in
the
places
where
we
are
able
to
create
some
civility
to
try
to
create
some
way
to
ensure
that
that
engagement
is
respectful.
I
think
we
should-
and
so
you
know
from
where
I'm
at
there
will
be
working
sessions
on
this.
Obviously
on
language
and
things
of
that
nature.
But
I
do.
A
I
do
believe
that
9
pm
at
9am,
or
rather
9
a.m
to
9
p.m
is
is
a
it
is
accommodating
for
the
sake
of
time,
because
we
have
a
hard
stop
with
chief
miller
at
11.
I
want
to
go
to
chief
miller
and
then
we
will
go
back
to
the
council
through
the
council
in
order
of
arrival
for
questions,
and
then
we
will
go
to
community
comment
and
so
chief
miller.
The
the
floor
is
yours.
J
Thank
you
good
morning,
everyone,
my
name,
is
brianna
mellor
and
I'm
the
chief
of
community
engagement
for
the
city
of
boston,
mayor
michelle
for
mayor
michelle
wu.
Thank
you
chairman
arroyo,
for
holding
this
hearing
today
and
thank
you
to
the
entire
council
for
having
me
here
and
allow
me
to
listen
to
your
comments
and
concerns,
and
I
definitely
look
forward
to
bringing
back
what
we
discussed
today
to
the
administration
and
I'm
here
to
listen
to
all
the
all.
J
The
comments
and
concerns
with
the
mission
to
create
a
stronger
ordinance
through
a
working
session
mayor
will
file
this
ordinance
regarding
targeted
residential
picketing
to
preserve
the
residents
rights
to
be
heard,
while
ensuring
they
do
not
interfere
with
the
quality
of
life
of
our
boston
neighborhoods
when
picketers
target
individuals
and
families
and
residents,
particularly
with
the
intentions,
to
disrupt
their
way
of
life,
it
negatively
infects
the
entire
neighborhood
and
it's
almost
vulnerable
residents
that
are
deeply
impacted
by
these
attacks,
so
specifically
the
elderly
and
children.
J
The
protests
have
become
a
very
big
quality
of
life
issue.
They
interrupt
the
resident's
ability
to
live
healthy,
happy
and
comfortably
in
the
privacy
of
their
own
homes,
and
everyone
deserves
that
right.
This
ordinance
will
not
prevent
people
from
being
able
to
protest
or
have
their
voices
heard.
Residents
will
still
have
the
right
to
protest
outside
someone's
home
if
they
choose
to
do
so.
The
protest
simply
places
reasonable
limitations
on
that
as
a
community.
J
We
should
be
considerate
of
the
impacts
we
have
on
our
neighbors
and
adding
these
necessary
parameters,
protect
the
health
and
well-being
of
every
single
resident
in
our
neighborhoods
that
are
targeted
by
harassment
and
targeted
attacks,
while
preserving
their
right
to
protest
again.
Thank
you
to
the
encap
entire
council
for
having
me
here
today
and
thank
you
all.
A
Thank
you
chief
miller.
I
now
want
to
go
to
councillors
in
order
of
arrival
for
questions.
I
believe
counselor
kenzie
bach,
followed
by
councillor.
Brayden
are
the
next
two
that
are
that
are
here.
C
Thanks,
mr
chairman,
I
don't
think
I
have
any
questions
for
chief
miller.
I
think
that
I
appreciated
the
letter
from
the
law
department
and
and
it's
consistent
with
when
I
first
read
the
ordinance
that
what
I
went
and
did
was
sort
of
read
the
legal
background
on
this
and
try
to
get
a
sense
of
where
it
fell,
and
that
was
part
of
for
me
coming
to
the
conclusion
that
it
is
narrowly
tailored
and
very
much
kind
of
consistent
with
the
tradition
that
the
supreme
court
has
upheld.
C
I
guess
just
a
couple
of
quick
comments
in
reaction
to
some
of
the
things
that
colleagues
said.
One
is
just
that
I
don't
think
fundamentally
that
there's
any
reason
why
this
ordinance
would
operate
differently
from
the
noise
ordinance
and
I'm
aware
that
the
noise
ordinance
you
know
is
often
seen
as
not
enforced
and-
and
you
know
there
are
re
good
reasons
and
bad
reasons
for
that.
But
I
do
think
that
there
is
some
norm
setting
that
happens
with
the
noise
ordinance
like
the
notion
that
from
11
p.m
to
7
a.m.
C
You
know
we're
asking
people
to
do
different
things
differently
because
of
their
neighbors
and
the
fact
that
we
live
all
squeezed
together
here
in
the
city,
and
I
think
this
is
in
a
similar
vein
and
I
also
don't
think
we've
seen
criminalization
from
the
out
of
the
noise
ordinance
and
the
kind
of
slippery
slope
stuff
we're
talking
about.
So
to
me.
C
C
And
then
the
other
thing
I
would
just
note
is,
I
would
have
a
a
kind
of
legal
concern
about
the
sunset
proposal.
I
think
that
it's
super
important
that
this
is
content
neutral
and
I
think
that
a
very
narrowly
limited
time
period
would
suggest
that
it
was
targeting
a
particular
set
of
protests,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
that
this
council
not
endorse
something
along
those
lines,
and
I
also
don't
think
it
would
withstand
legal
scrutiny.
So
I
just
want
to
flag
that
as
a
legal
concern
about
a
sunset
proposal
thanks.
Mr
chairman,.
A
Thank
you.
I
was
waiting
for
the
working
session,
but
you
are
absolutely
correct
councilbach,
but
that
would
not
pass
legal
scrutiny
if
we
did
this
on
set
clause
due
to
the
contact
specific
nature
of
it.
I
I
counselor
louis
jen
is
back
on.
I'm
gonna
go
to
councillor
braden
for
any
questions
or
comment
and
then
to
counselor
louis
jen,
followed
by
counselor
tonya
fennings
anderson.
F
Mr
chair,
I
don't
have
any
questions
or
comments
at
this
moment.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
louis
jen,
followed
by
counselor
anderson.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
do
have
a
question
for
the
administration,
given
that
there
are
like
currently
laws
on
the
book,
such
as
news
nuisance
and
disturbing
the
peace
ordinances
that
could
be
enforced
but
haven't
been
enforced.
You
know
I'm
curious
as
whether
the
administration
has
insight
as
to
why
those
aren't
being
enforced.
B
You
know,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
concern
among
a
lot
of
folks
that
if
these
were
protests,
either
blm
protests
at
this
hour
or
if
you
know
the
crowd
of
protesters
looked
differently,
given
the
racialized
nature
of
policing
and
also
of
criminal,
you
know
who
we
presume
to
be
to
be
guilty
that
those
ordinances
would
have
been
enforced.
So
can
you
give
us
any
insight
as
to
why
that's
not
happening
here,
and
why
there's
a
need
for
this
additional
ordinance
to
get
some
enforcement.
J
A
So
we
can
I'm
going
to
take
questions
for
bpd
and
actually
send
them
to
dpd.
So
if
folks
have
questions
for
bpd
like
that,
we
will
send
that
to
bpd
for
for
answers.
So
thank
you,
council
louisiana.
Do
you
have
any
other
questions?
A
I
Okay,
chair
royal
can
obviously
this
is
on
on
television
and
the
public
is
watching,
but
can
you
explain
the
term
sunset
provision?
I
have
a
good
understanding
of
what
it
is
not
not
totally
I'll
be
honest,
not
totally,
but
can
you
also
explain
it
for
the
public?
What
that
means.
A
Certainly,
a
sunset
provision
is
a
legal
provision
that
provides
the
automatic
termination
of
the
ordinance.
In
other
words,
it
would
be
you
sunset
it
and
we
would
have
to
act
again,
affirmatively
to
enact
to
renew
it
essentially.
So
if
we
pass
this
with
a
sunset
provision,
what
that
would
mean
is
it's
it's
in
in
it's
active
or
a
valid
law
up
to
a
deadline,
and
then
it
would
sunset
in
and
expire.
So
that's
that's
the
definition
of
a
sunset
provision.
A
I
I
Yeah
right,
I
had
an
understanding
of
it,
but
not
not
totally
so
I
I'm
glad
you
were
able
to
expand
on
that
a
little
bit,
the
the
other.
The
other
issue
I
wanted
to
highlight
is
you
know
the
the
protesting
out
in
front
of
anyone's
house,
whether
it's
a
mayor
or
a
council
or
a
state
representative,
and
it's
and
it's
legal
to
do
that.
It
certainly
costs
public
taxpayer
dollars
as
well.
You
know
there
there
has
to
be
a
police
response
to
that
and
that's
part
of
the
the
public
protest.
I
I
So
this
could
be
a
significant
amount
of
money.
Also,
not
that
that's
the
reason
you
should
not
have
protest,
but
it
should
be
acknowledged
that
public
safety
money
taxpayer
money
is
spent.
I
I'm
just
wondering
rihanna
and
do
we
do
we
know,
and
it's
and
it's
an
important
question,
because
you
know
because
this
is
this
issue
is
so-
is
in
the
in
the
paper
almost
every
day,
but
do
we
know
the
the
level
of
or
the
amount
of
taxpayer
money
on
on
police
that
have
responded
to
various
demonstrations,
whether
it's
my
house,
whether
it's
the
superintendent
of
schools,
whether
it's
the
mayor,
our
councillors,
have
also
been
subjected
to
some
of
this?
I
J
Thank
you
for
your
question.
Council.
President
flynn.
I
do
not
have
the
answer
to
that
at
that
time,
but
I
I
think,
as
counselor
arroyo
said,
we
could
ask
bpd
these
questions.
I
Okay,
thank
you,
yeah,
and
I
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
important.
We
also
address
the
issue
of
boston
police
over
time,
and
people
have
the
right
to
to
to
weigh
in
on
that
issue,
as
I
do,
and
other
people
do,
but
certainly
I
I
would
bet
some
of
the
boston
police
at
some
of
these
locations
are
there
for
because
they
were
ordered
to
which
they
which
they
should
be
but
but
on
overtime
as
well.
I
I
Is
this
places
at
out
in
front
of
city
hall
to
publicly
protest?
Elected
officials
in,
I
think
that's
a
much
better
location
than
going
to
someone's
someone's
house
and
being
being
disruptive.
You
know
a
mayor
makes
decisions
in
the
may,
a
lot
of
them.
Most
of
them
are
controversial.
I
Fifty
percent
of
the
people,
like
them,
fifty
percent,
don't
like
them,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
if
you,
if
you
dislike
a
position,
you
have
the
right
to
go
out
in
front
of
someone's
someone's
house
and
and
yell
yell
and
scream.
I
I
just
you
know
we
want
to
encourage
young
people,
mothers
and
fathers
to
get
involved
in
in
politics
to
run
for
office
in
in
what
we
witnessed
at
the
mayor's
house
would
not
encourage
any
young
person
any
young
family
to
get
involved
in
the
political
political
arena.
I
You
know
it's
and
it's
sad,
it's
sad
to
say
that,
because
a
handful
of
people
can
have
a
negative
impact
on
the
quality
of
life
of
of
of
thousands
of
people.
So
maybe
maybe
my
views
are
a
little
not
not
in
the
mainstream,
not
in
the
mainstream.
But
that's
just
that's
how
I
feel
about
it,
but
I
don't
have
any
further
questions
sheriff
royal.
D
D
If
and
I
appreciate
that
the
mayor
didn't
because
I
would,
I
would
hate
to
think
that
you
know
self-preserving
like
if
we
do
it
for
a
term
and
the
length
of
which
we
were.
We
are
to
vote
on
the
ordinance
right.
So
is
it
so
specific
to
this
mayor
or
for
for
everyone?
D
So
I'm
interested
in
hearing
more
on
that
and
what
my
colleagues
or
how
we
hashed
this
out,
but
then
two
as
so
as
a
mother
as
a
woman
as
just
anyone
as
a
person
like,
I
don't
want
anyone
to
harass
me
at
my
home
and
you
know
yes,
the
first
amendment
gives
you
the
right
to
assembly
but
peacefully
assemble
and
what
I've
seen
or
observed
has
not
been
peaceful
and
so
the
the
thing
that's
putting
me
you
know
in
the
back
and
forth
is
if
we,
if
we're
going
to
do
this,
then
who
is
it
going
to
impact?
D
And
I
think
that
my
colleague
lara
alluded
to
this,
then
who
does
it
adversely
impact?
Who
does
it
disproportionately
impact
and
in
in
the
event
that
it
is
enforced
by
vpd
and
as
well
as
you
know,
what
what?
D
What
is
that
going
to
turn
into
right
and
then,
as
far
as
the
noise
ordinance,
it
does
not
get
enforced
at
all
unless
you
are
white
and
you're
calling
in
a
black
neighborhood,
so
I'm
very
cautious
into
how
this
is
going
to
play
out,
and
I
and
I
want
to
hear
more
again-
I
want
to
I'm.
D
I
I'm
here
to
hear
more
of
the
testimonies
and
seeing
people's
perspective,
but
I'm
also
on
the
side
of
not
harassing
people
or
people
having
the
rights
to
say
you
know
enough
is
enough
and
counselor
arroyo
and
counselor.
President
flynn
mentioned
this
as
a
child.
You
know
you've
observed
this
and
you
you
understand
that
this
is
you
know,
you
don't
want
your
mom
to
be
called
names
and
harassed
and
I'm
sure
there's
been.
D
You
know,
aches
and,
like
there's,
been
stress
and
tears
over
this
and
so
and
I
understand
that
people
will
say
you
know.
Well,
that's
what
you
deserve,
because
that's
you
took
the
position
opposite
for
me,
but
there's
never!
Is
it
okay
to
harass
someone
up
to
that
level,
so
I
just
wanted
to
allude
to
those
two
and-
and
I
I'd
like
more
conversation
around
the
sunset
provision,
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
it
properly.
A
Thank
you,
councillor,
anderson
councillor,
flaherty.
Thank
you.
E
Mr
chair
and
obviously
the
idea
of
a
sunset
provision,
or
at
least
the
topic
of
which
is
not
designed
or
was
not
proposed,
designed
for
just
this
specific
incident
that
was
obviously
to
recognize
the
need
for
stability.
Arguably,
obviously
what
council
president
flynn
has
been
talking
about,
I
guess
gone-
are
the
days
when
folks
can
agree
to
disagree
and
protests
have
risen
to
the
level
of
you
know
this.
It's
threats
to
intimidation
and,
and
they
can
downgrade
fairly
quickly
to
to
a
lot
of
other
things.
So
I
guess
the
idea
behind
a
sense.
E
It
wasn't
for
this
specific,
the
protest.
Obviously,
at
the
mayor's
house,
it
was
designed
more
to
address
overall
the
lack
of
stability
in
our
city
and
our
state
and
our
country
when
it
comes
to
disagreements,
arguably
whether
they're,
political
or
they're
policy
driven.
So
so,
I
just
wanna,
make
sure
folks
understand
sort
of
where
that
idea
at
least
came
from
as
to
whether
it
makes
sense
to
put
a
sunset
clause
here
or
not,
and
obviously
whether
or
not
it
would
withstand
muslim,
but
it
wasn't
designed
just
for
this
specific
instance.
E
It
was
to
address.
I
think
things
in
general,
which
council
president
flynn
has
so
eloquently
articulated,
but
I
just
want
to
shift
gears
to
brianna.
Are
you
an
attorney,
and
I
know
you
had
maybe
briefly
read
something
from
the
law
department,
but
I
guess
the
bigger
question
for
me
is:
where
is
the
law
department?
And
you
know
this
is
what
we
pay
out
of
the
cedam
bomb
for
frankly,
and
so
he
needs
to
be
on
this
call.
E
If
not,
then
I
need
to
hear
from
him
at
some
point
today
on
this
issue.
We've
got
an
issue.
We've
got
an
ordinance
in
front
of
us
that
intertwines
there
are
some
legal
issues
with
it.
My
colleagues
and
clearly
folks
that
we'll
be
testifying,
will
have
questions
about,
and
we
have
a
law
department
corporation
council,
not
sure
what
they're
doing
they're,
probably
just
listening,
but
they
should
be
participating
brianna
and
so,
unless
you're
an
attorney
and
they
have
specific
authorization
from
the
law
department.
An
attorney
from
the
law
department
should
be
on.
E
It
should
be
at
this
hearing
and
that
shows
sort
of
a
lack
of
respect
for
the
legislative
body
as
well
as
for
this
ordinance.
The
fact
that
they're
not
here
and
so
that's
my
two
cents
so
brianna,
are
you
an
attorney.
J
J
Myself,
I'm
here
to
ex,
to
represent
the
community
community
in
this
instance
in
the
neighborhoods
and
the
impacts
that
it
has
on
the
neighborhoods.
But
I'm
happy
to
have
legal
answer
and
follow
questions
that
need
to
happen.
That's.
E
True
and
thank
you
brianna,
this
isn't
directed
at
you,
obviously
through
the
chair,
adam
cederbaum
and
or
his
team
should
be
at
this
hearing
the
fact
that
they're,
either
just
listening
in
or
they're,
underneath
their
desks
not
sure
what
it
is,
but
they
should
be
on
this
hearing
participating
as
we
noodle
through
the
the
intricacies
of
this
ordinance
and
or
what,
if
any,
rights,
laws
and
freedoms
potentially
get
traversed.
E
A
Thank
you,
council
clarity,
and
I
would
just
say
that
I
agree
that
they
likely
should
be
present,
and
I
expect
that
they
will
be
present
at
the
working
session
on
this.
That
is
my
my
deepest
hope
that
they'd
be
there
to
work
through
that
language
with
us.
Counselor.
E
If
you
could
inquire
from
the
law
department
can,
could
we
just
assess
what's
their
what's
their
annual
budget?
How
many
attorneys
are
in
the
department
what
their
salaries
are,
and
I
guess
and
what
their
role
is
as
it
pertains
to-
I
guess,
city,
government
and
or
their
advocacy
on
behalf
of
the
corporation.
So
I'd
like
to
get
those
answers
in
advance
of
that
working
session,
their
overall
budget,
what
they?
What
we,
what
we,
what
we
pay
with,
what
we
pay
for
outside
council?
Why
we
need
outside
counsel?
E
A
G
H
Thank
you
chair.
I
don't
think
that
I
have
any
questions,
but
I
do
have
a
few
comments.
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
the
instances
that
we're
talking
about
at
city
councilors
homes,
about
what
we're
talking
about
harassment
while
we're
talking
about
threats
that
those
are
not
protests
threatening
someone's
family,
is
not
a
protest.
H
Vandalizing
someone's
home
is
not
a
protest
right,
and
so
I
want
us
to
be
careful
when
we're
having
a
conversation
about
protesting
and
picketing
that
we
are
not
saying
that
we
are
supportive
of
this
thing,
because
x,
y
and
z
has
happened
to
us,
or
we
have
seen
x,
y
and
z
happen
when
none
of
those
things
could
be
ultimately
defined
as
being
protest.
H
Protests
are
meant
to
be
destructive
and
as
people
who
are
in
power,
we
don't
get
to
tell
our
constituents
when
it's
appropriate
or
when
it
feels
good
or
when
it's
best
for
us
that
they
show
up
to
protest.
The
montgomery
bus
boycott
cost
the
government
a
bunch
of
money,
people
we're
talking
about
people
if
we
want
to
act
like
this
ordinance
is
somehow
content
neutral.
Yes,
it
was
written
to
be
content
neutral
and
it
is
legally
sound
in
the
way
that
it
is
content
neutral.
But
this
ordinance
is
a
response
to
a
specific
thing.
H
If
we
want
to
stop
talking
about
it,
as
as,
if
it's
not
a
response
to
a
specific
thing,
then
let's
look
at
protests
as
protests,
people
who
are
out
fighting
for
their
civil
rights
and
fighting
for
their
civil
liberties.
We
do
not
get
to
tell
them
when
protests
won't
disturb
us
protest
are
meant
to
be
that
so
we're
talking
about
this
ordinance
passing
legal
scrutiny
because
we
need
to
stay
content
neutral.
It
is
not
content
neutral.
It
was
written
as
a
response
to
a
specific
kind
of
protest.
H
We
and
counselors
us
have
had,
and
other
people
who
came
before
us.
Other
mayors
have
had
people
protesting
outside
of
our
homes
for
generations,
and
this
has
never
been
something
that
has
been
on
the
tables
and
all
the
comments
and
the
conversation
that
we're
having
are
about
the
people
who
are
outside
of
miami's
house
and
people
who
have
been
outside
of
our
own
homes
or
of
our
family's
homes,
doing
things
that
could
not
be
defined
as
a
protest.
H
I
think
it's
an
incredibly
privileged
stance
to
take
to
say
that,
because
something
hasn't
been
criminalized
before
that
it
won't
be
in
the
future
or
because
it
hasn't
been
criminalized
for
a
specific
community
that
it
will
be
the
same
for
other.
The
reality
is
that
the
buffalo
police
department
has
some
discretion
about
how
they
enforce
and
discretion
allows
for
political
bias
to
inform
enforcement,
and
if
we
leave
that
open
without
maybe
you
know
we're
talking
about
that,
this
is
really
targeted.
It
needs
to
be
more
targeted.
H
A
Thank
you,
councilor
lara,
I
see
councillor.
Murphy
has
her
hand
up.
I
want
to
go
to
councillor
murphy
and
then
I'll
go
to
council
president
flynn
and
then
I
will
take
my
opportunity
to
speak
and
then
we'll
go
back
around
for
our
second
round
as
necessary,
so
councilor
murphy.
K
K
So
I
do
just
want
to
share
my
feelings
that
you
know
I
don't
feel
comfortable
taking
away
people's
rights
or
telling
them
when
their
rights
can
be
exercised,
but
at
the
same
time
I
do
believe
that
any
threatening
or
harassing
behavior
towards
our
mayor
or
any
anyone,
not
just
elected
officials,
should
never
be
tolerated.
So
if
that
is
happening-
and
I
know
others
have
said
this
or
talked
about
this-
like
what
what
supports
do-
we
have
in
place
right
now?
What
more
can
we
do
to
make
sure
that
that
is
being
stopped?
K
And
I
do
know
my
80
year
old,
neighbor
auntie
k
lives
on
poplar
street,
so
she
does
know
when
the
noise
comes,
and
you
know
when
the
protesters
are
out
there
and
that
stretch
of
time
when
they
were
making
a
lot
of
noise.
There
are
noise
ordinances
and
the
neighbors
also
do
have
rights,
but
I
do
believe
that
we
can
take
care
of
that
in
other
ways
than
maybe
having
you
know
this
go
through
as
taking
away
people's
rights
to
protest.
K
So
I
do
appreciate
this
conversation
and
I
hope
we
can
continue
this
working
session
before
it
comes
to
a
vote,
to
really
have
a
good
understanding
of
how
we
can
come
to
some
agreement
on
making
sure
we're.
You
know
we're
doing
the
right
thing,
but
not
taking
away
people's
rights,
and
I
appreciate
what
my
colleagues
have
said.
A
Thank
you,
councillor,
murphy.
Now,
just
my
questions
for
chief
miller.
Do
we
have
a
count
of
how
many
311
complaints
have
been
made
about
these
protests
happening
roslindale.
J
Yes,
so
we
currently
have
about
14
complaints
through
311
about
specifically
augustus.
A
Okay,
because
I
know
that
I
have
actually
seen
both
in
our
community
threads
in
my
inbox,
dozens
of
phone
calls
that
we've
received
about
this
issue.
Just
lots
of
lots,
including
today
we
got
a
report
of
the
noise
carrying
down
to
cummins
highway.
I
would
be
interested
in
why
we
haven't
enforced
the
actual
sound
noise
ordinances.
A
That
would
be
very
interesting
information
to
me
as
to
why
that
hasn't
happened
when
this
has
been
the
largest
part
of
the
complaints
that
I
have
received,
the
second
largest
being
sort
of
on
the
content
of
what's
being
yelled,
but
the
noise
itself
is
what
I
think
has
been
most
disruptive
in
in
that
way.
I'm
not
sure
I
have
any
other
questions
for
you,
chief,
and
I
see
that
we
still
have
three
hands
up.
A
I'm
gonna
go
in
order
that
the
hands
went
up
and
then
chief
miller.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
We'll
go
to
public
comment.
Council
president
flynn
floor
is
yours.
I
Yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Mr
chair.
I
was
wondering
the
letter
we
received
from
the
legal
department.
The
law
department
can,
are
you
able
to
summarize
it?
What
did
it
say
or
I
understand
they
did
send
down
a
letter?
I
was
just
curious
of
what
what
they
said.
A
Sure
so
I
I
I
read
it
out
at
the
just
to
summarize,
but
I'm
happy
to
do
it
again
here.
The
letter
is
about
four
pages
long.
The
department
cites
a
similar
ordinance,
which
was
upheld
in
the
case
of
frisbee
v
schultz
and
found
to
be
lawful.
That
case
set
the
standards
for
this
kind
of
legislation.
A
That's
before
us
today,
the
department
specified
that
the
ordinance
before
this
body
is
not
content
specific,
which
is
a
legal
determination
that
that
is
required
for
something
like
this
by
the
courts
and
leaves
open
channels
of
communication.
A
The
department
also
reiterated
that
the
goal
is
to
protect
the
privacy
of
residents
in
their
homes,
and
so
that
was
that's
the
the
cliff
notes
version
of
that
four
page
letter
it's
more
in
depth
than
that,
obviously,
but
it's
there
and
just
because
it
hasn't
been
done
yet
for
folks
who
are
sort
of
tuning
in
to
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
we
are
talking
about.
This
ordinance
specifically
targets
picketing,
protesting
or
demonstrating
toward
a
specific
residence
in
residential
areas.
A
A
Violation
of
the
ordinance
would
result
in
a
fine
of
a
hundred
dollars
for
the
first
offense
200
for
the
second
offense
and
300
for
a
third
offense,
and
that
obviously
would
be
enforced
by
the
boston
police
department,
which
is
why,
if
you've
heard
us
speaking
about
the
noise
ordnance
and
other
ordinances,
that
we
have,
that
haven't
been
forced,
there's
some
questions
as
to
what
would
make
this
different
from
that,
and
so
thank
you,
counselor
flynn.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
any
further
questions.
I
Yeah,
I
have
one
further
question
and
one
one
comment
mr
chair:
did
we
consider
maybe,
with
the
exception,
maybe
not
doing
a
fine,
but
doing
does
it
stay
away
order?
Is
that
more
effective
than
a
fine?
Is
that
more?
I
A
I
think
that's
something
worth
asking
the
law
department.
The
one
thing
I
would
just
say
is
stay
aways.
In
my
experience
as
a
as
a
public
defender
where
you
get,
you
see,
stay
away,
orders
you
see
sort
of
harassment,
orders,
you
see
those
kinds
of
orders,
but
they
require
court
hearings
and
things
of
that
nature,
whereas
I
think
the
fine
is
is
probably
more
streamlined
and
then
obviously
they
would
require
enforcement
for
the
stay
away,
which
I
think
could
actually
lead
to
an
arrest
on
the
violation
of
the
stay
away.
A
So
those
those
are
the
kinds
of
issues
when
you
get
into
those
kind
of
measures,
but
I'm
happy
to
kick
that
over
to
the
la
the
law
office
to
see
what
what
their
determinations
were,
why
they
came
to
this
specific
fine
of
a
hundred
two
hundred
three
hundred
and
how
that
matches
or
does
not
match
what
the
fine
is
for,
say:
violation
of
the
noise
ordinance.
So
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
I
think
are
valid
questions
that
I'll
send
over
that
way.
I
Thank
you,
chair
royal
and
then
my
final
comment.
I
guess,
as
I
was
reading
reading
the
newspaper
about
the
demonstrations
out
in
front
of
the
mayor's
house,
read
them
closely.
There
was
one
I
forget
if
it
was
a
man
or
a
woman
regardless,
but
this
person
was
a
veteran
dealing
with
ptsd
related
issues
and
that
type
of
noise,
in
that
type
of
disturbance
out
in
front
of
your
house
at
seven
o'clock
in
the
morning,
is
very
unhealthy
for
someone
with
ptsd
or
mental
health
challenges.
I
You
know
we
do
a
lot
of
work
on
this
council
also
on
supporting
supporting
families
supporting
elderly
people,
persons
with
disabilities,
but
it
should
be
also
factored
in
that
these
demonstrations
really
impact
negatively
the
quality
of
life
and
again
I'm
I'm,
I'm
far
a
balance,
a
balance
that
works
some
type
of
reasonable,
reasonable
compromise.
That's
what
this
council
and
the
mayor
want
to
see
is
a
reasonable
compromise.
I
So
I
don't
have
any
further
questions
or
comments,
but
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
chair
for
conducting
this
meeting
and
for
my
colleagues
for
very
good,
very
good
comments
too.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
flynn.
I
will
just
say
you
know.
One
of
the
emails
I
received
as
well
is,
in
this
time
of
hybrid
and
from
working
from
home.
One
of
the
emails
that
I've
received
is
about
somebody.
Who's
had
their
work
disrupted,
who
has
had
a
hard
time
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
work
in
this
area
from
home,
and
so
these
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
have
to
figure
out.
A
What
the
balance
is
here,
because
these
folks
are
not
elected
officials
did
not
take
on
this
kind
of
job
that
requires
sort
of
a
daily
public
scrutiny
and
public
interaction.
A
It's
really
not,
and
it
is
happening
every
day,
and
so
those
kinds
of
things
really
do
have
to
get
taken
into
account
because
there's
children
there
are
seniors.
There
are
folks
working
from
home.
They
are
all
entitled
to
frankly
the
same
peace
that
we
would
want
for
our
communities.
I
represent
this
area,
so
I
might
be.
You
know
I
might
be
a
little
bit
more
sensitive
to
it,
because
I've
received
so
many
of
these
phone
calls-
and
I
know
what's
going
on
there
in
that
sense.
A
But
it's
it's
been
a
lot
and
I
think,
if
we're
just
saying
that
you
can
do
that
all
of
the
things
I
just
said
because
they
frankly
have
been
doing
that,
but
from
9
00
a.m,
until
9
00
pm,
which
is
after
the
sun,
goes
down.
Frankly,
which
is,
I
think,
also
a
thing,
but
it's
after
the
sun
goes
down.
So
we're
saying
from
9
00
a.m
to
9
00
p.m.
12
hours
have
at
it.
I
just
don't.
A
I
really
don't
see
the
distinction
here
with
why
it
has
to
happen
at
7,
00
a.m
or
8
00
a.m.
I
recognize
protests
are
disruptive,
but
there
there
are
the
reality.
Is
I've
never
actually
seen
this
kind
of
sustained
effort
at
somebody's
home
ever
period,
regardless
of
whether
it
was
mayor
flynn,
mayor
walsh,
I've
never
seen
this,
and
so
you
know
we
can
say
what
we
want
about
all
of
these
different
things
about
how
this
might
impact
other
folks.
A
I've
never
seen
folks
of
color
period
do
this
to
elected
officials
in
this
manner
for
weeks
and
weeks
and
weeks
and
weeks
on
end,
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear
about
what
we're
talking
about
there,
because
this
is
different.
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
This
is
different
and
if
we're
gonna,
if
we're
gonna
talk
about
it
seriously,
I
have
the
same
questions
other
counselors
have
raised.
Why
aren't
we
enforcing
the
laws
that
are
already
on
the
books
on
this?
Why
aren't
we?
A
I
know
there
was
a
meeting
at
e5
with
my
with
my
community,
where
e5
being
the
police
station.
That's
how
seriously
they
took
this
where
we
had
a
community
meeting
at
the
police
station,
because
folks
had
this
going
on
for
weeks
on
end,
I
feel
for
them.
I
am
likely
voting
for
this
because
of
that,
and
so
these
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
you
know.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear
this.
This
probably
isn't
necessarily
going
to
fix
it.
Folks
are
still
going
to
do.
A
Protest,
sit-ins
aren't
legal,
but
we
still
do
them
so
like
these
are
the
kinds
of
things
where
I
just
think
that
there's
a
hope
here
that
we
can
get
to
a
civil
place
and
that
we
can
keep
it
centered
on
you
know
if
you
want
to
go
after
elected
officials,
there's
ways
to
do
that
without
going
after
their
families
and
their
neighbors,
and
so
with
that
I
know,
councilor
lars
had
her
hand
up,
and
then
I
know,
counselor
fernandez
anderson
has
had
her
hand
up,
and
then
I
see
counselor
flynn's
hand
went
up
so
in
that
order.
A
If
we
can
go
counselor
lara,
councillor,
anderson
or
was
counselor
anderson,
were
you
first,
so
counselor
anderson,
counselor
lara,
then
counselor
flynn.
Thank
you.
D
Nope
my
turn.
No
thank
you
counselor.
You
know
I
I
want
to
thank
my
sister
councillor
for
bringing
up
such
important
points
about
you
know,
protests
and
our
rights
and
racial
justice
and
those
who
it
disproportionately
of
impacts
with
that
being
said,
you
know
to
your
point:
counselor
arroyo.
D
It
is
vastly
different
like
it
is
not
the
same
montgomery
in
other
situations,
black
people,
I'm
sorry,
people
of
color
have
not
done
this
to
elected
in
this
way,
and
this
is
totally
different.
Whenever
we
get
when
it
become
begins
to
get
abusive,
then
I
wonder,
though,
what
population
are
we
dealing
with
right?
So
my
job
right
or
our
our
job
I'll
speak
for
myself,
is
that
we
consolidate
community
and
that
we
represent
everyone.
D
So
in
that
same
sense,
I'm
thinking
about
the
people
that
are
protesting
if
they
have
to
get
if
they
have
to
if
their
resolve
is
so
abusive
if
their
disposition
is
so
offensive
to
the
point
to
this
point,
then
you
have
to
question:
what
is
their
state
what's
going
on?
Why
is
it
okay?
Why
this?
Why
is
mayor
wu
different
and
then
what
what
makes
them
go
to
that
extreme?
So
I
wonder
and
allow
me
just
for
a
bit.
D
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
good
idea,
but
I
wonder
then,
if
we
need
a
third-party
intervention,
be
so
that
we
can
one
address
the
issues
that
council
r
is
talking
about
or
that
we
so
that
we
put
this
into
this
to
this
ordinance,
but
also
some
sort
of
intervention
or
some
sort
of
third
party,
so
that
we
are
ensuring
that
we're
not
going
into
the
other
end
of
things,
the
other
extreme
end
of
things
on
impacting
our
communities
as
well,
but
also
again
like
what?
What
what?
What?
What?
D
What
is
our
state
of
mind
when
we
are
in
front
of
a
a
person's
house,
a
woman's
house
and
we
are
abusive.
D
So
I
I
just
have
those
questions
and
again,
if
we
can
explore,
is
there
a
way
for
us
to
talk
to
bpd
and
look
at
into
third-party
interventions
so
that
we
can
avoid
the
opposite
extreme?
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
and-
and
I
think
we
might
make
a
request
because
we're
going
to
be
asking
dpd
to
enforce
this-
that
bpd
be
present
at
the
working
session
as
well,
so
that
folks
can
ask
those
questions
there
directly
to
them.
Counselor
lyra,
followed
by
president
flynn
and
then
we'll
be
going
to
public
comment
in
order
to
have
public
testimony.
A
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So
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speak.
Thank
you,
and
with
that
I'm
going
to
go
to
counselor
lara,
followed
by
council.
President
flynn
can.
J
Thank
you
to
the
counselors
and
thank
you
to
all
the
community
residents
that
are
going
to
be
giving
public
testimony
today.
I
do
have
staff
on
to
kind
of
take
everything
back
and
hopefully,
work
together
on
this
in
the
working
session.
I
do
want
to
underscore
my
role
in
this
conversation
is
really
uplifting
and
empowering
the
voices
of
community
and
how
this
does
deeply
impact,
our
residents
and
our
neighbors
and
our
role
is
to
proactively
protect
our
neighbors
and,
and
I
look
forward
to
kind
of
partnering
this
in
the
future.
B
A
And
I'll
go
to
her
directly
after
councillor
flynn,
but
counselor
laura
the
floors.
H
Thank
you
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
a
couple
of
points
from
your
comments,
specifically
particularly
around,
and
also
counselor
fernandez
anderson's
of
like
oh,
this
is
different
right
when
young
people
are
going
outside
of
mayor
marty,
walsh's
home,
because
they're
asking
for
more
jobs,
they're
there
they
have
their
protests
they're
there
for
two
hours
and
they
go
right
there.
This
level
of
it
is
different.
H
H
I-
and
so
I
wanted
to
to
bring
that
up,
because
the
problem
is
the
repetitive
nature
right.
This
has
been
going
on
for
nine
weeks,
but
legally
we
can't
target
the
repetitive
nature,
because
if
we
say
you
know
no
more
than
seven
days
within
a
30-day
limit,
then
you
can't
figure
out
who
was
there
and
you
you
get
in
you're
waiting
into
the
water
of
saying
that
john
has
used
up
mary's
first
amendment
right
because
john
has
been
there
for
three
days
and
now
mary
can't
be
there,
because
it's
been
seven
days.
H
So
this
is
a
part
of
the
issue.
Is
that
in
all
of
the
ways
that
we
can
make
this
ordinance
very
specific
so
that
it
has
it
minimizes
the
amount
of
harm
we
have
kind
of
like
the
legal
boundaries
around?
What
we
can
do,
because
we're
kind
of
playing
with
the
first
amendment
here,
which
is
why
I
believe
that
we
just
don't
take.
We
don't
take
the
risk
because,
ultimately,
we're
going
to
get
to
what
we're
going
through.
H
So
I
I
would
be
supportive
if
we
were
targeting
the
repetitive
nature,
the
harassing
nature
of
the
protest
legally.
We
can't
do
that
and
yes,
we've
never
seen
this
happen
with
other
movement
organizers,
because
we
are
people
who
live
in
neighborhoods
and
we
don't
want
to.
We
don't
want
our
neighbors
to
be
harassed
either,
but
the
reality
is
that
we
can't
when
we
pass
this
ordinance,
it
doesn't
it's
not.
A
Thank
you,
council
lara,
and
I
I
do
think
that
the
repetitiveness
is
really
what
has
caused
much
of
the
disturbance
right.
Those
other
situations
were
sort
of
one
and
done's,
and
this
is
a
very
different
thing
and
so
councillor
flynn.
So
thank
you,
council
of
our
counselor
flynn.
The
floor
is
yours.
I
Thank
you,
council
royal,
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
again
and
I
promise
this
will
be
my
last
time
speaking,
but
I
I
I
wanted
to
highlight
one
one.
One
issue
I
was
with
with
the
mayor
at
whittie
at
whittier
street
health
center
several
weeks
ago,
a
couple
months
ago.
Rather-
and
one
of
the
reporters
asked
me
about
the
protest
out
in
front
of
the
mayor's
house-
and
I
said
I
said
you
know
when
my
father
was
mayor-
we
also
had
demonstrations.
There
was
demonstrations
out
in
front
of
mayor
flynn's
house.
I
I
I
think
a
lot
of
this
has
to
do
with
mayor
wu.
Being
a
woman
in
in
in
may
will
being
a
woman
of
color
because
it
certainly
didn't
happen
under
mayor
flynn.
It
certainly
didn't
happen
under
mayor
menino
and
it
certainly
didn't
happen
under
mayor
walsh,
and
now
we
have
a
woman
of
color
and
and
now
we
have
this
vicious
in
extreme
extremely
aggressive,
protesting
out
in
front
of
mayor
wu's
home.
I
So
I
know
many
people
disagree
with
me,
but
I
stand
by
my
comment
and
you
know
that
also
that
that
also
has
to
be
part
of
the
discussion.
It's
it's
it's
the
white
elephant
in
the
room
and
I
think
it's
important
that
we
at
least
acknowledge
it.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you,
president
flynn,
for
your
leadership
honored
to
have
you
as
our
president
councillor
edwards.
The
floor
is
yours,.
L
L
Accountable
is
one
thing,
but
what
I
feel
is
somewhat
reasonable
and
this
this
version
is
one
we
already
have
the
law,
but
two
it's
a
two
hour
shift,
because
I
do
think
there's
one
thing
between
being
held
accountable
and
then
using
the
ability
to
just
simply
harass
somebody-
and
I
do
wonder
why
seven
eight,
you
know:
seven
a.m:
the
the
the
insistence
on
keeping
the
7
a.m
as
a
part
of
the
opportunity
to
get
in
front
of
someone's
house.
L
I
can't
think
why
that
is,
except
to
be
able
to
harass
them
to
wake
them
up
to
cause
discomfort,
and
that's
not
the
same
as
being
able
to
convey
a
message
to
people.
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
really
ask
ourselves:
what
are
we
pushing
for?
What
are
we
allowing
for?
We
don't
have
a
governor's
mansion,
we
don't
have
a
mayor's
mansion.
L
Our
elected
officials
live
in
community
and
the
question
is
when
we
live
in
community,
while
you're
trying
to
hold
me
accountable,
for
example,
how
much
does
my
elderly
mate
neighbor
need
to
suffer
as
a
result
of
you
wanting
to
send
a
message
to
me,
and
I
think
that
this
is
allowing
for
our
elderly
for
our
folks,
the
children
who
are
for
folks
who
are
not
political
who
happen
to
be
in
a
neighborhood
where
a
politician
lives
to
continue
to
live
and
peace
and
quiet.
L
I
think,
to
a
certain
extent,
mayor
wu's
is
an
example,
but
I
think
it's
more
important
to
ask
ourselves
if
it's
not
mayor
wu,
it
could
be
a
city
official
that
we
don't
like
it
could
be
the
police
commissioner.
It
could
be
a
lot
of
people
who
aren't
elected
that
will
be
impacted
by
this
particular
law.
Now
the
state
law
that's
a
little
different.
That
is
actually
talking
about
targeting
elected
officials,
which
I
have
a
little
bit
more
of
a
concern
about
this.
L
L
It
still
allows
for
people
to
come
out
there
have
their
voices
heard
nine
o'clock
to
nine
o'clock,
and
I
think
it
still
allows
for
the
level
of
discomfort
that
you
feel
is
necessary
for
the
elected
official,
but
it
doesn't
cause
harm,
and
I
think
that
that's
where
the
difference
is
so.
I
fully
support
this
measure
for
those
who
are
concerned
about
first
amendment.
I
think
it's
it's
you.
You
need
to
be
moving
forward.
L
There
should
be
a
greater
discussion
as
to
whether
we
should
have
this
ordinance
at
all.
So
if
you're
talking
about
scrapping
the
entire
thing,
that's
a
different
conversation
in
a
different
ordinance.
This
is
about
adjusting
already
existing
law,
two
hours
so
yeah.
So
I
just
want
to
go
on
record
in
support.
I
acknowledge
it's
a
matter
of
holding
people
accountable
and
making
them
uncomfortable,
but
I
do
think
the
two
hours
moved
it
to
just
that
versus
causing
harm
to
people
who
had
no
impact
and
no
ability
to
control
any
of
these.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
edwards,
and
with
that
we
are
now
going
to
proceed
to
public
comment.
We
have
many
people
signed
up
for
public
comments
today
before
we
begin.
I
just
want
to
make
a
few
things
clear.
Public
testimony
is
a
means
by
which
members
of
the
public
can
provide
comments
on
the
matters
discussed
at
a
committee
hearing.
There
is
no
back
and
forth
between
the
public
and
counselors
or
panelists.
There
is
no
question
and
answer
session.
You
should
think
of
this
as
an
opportunity
to
provide
feedback
and
raise
concerns.
A
Please
limit
your
testimony
to
two
minutes.
I
will
have
a
timer
running
when
I
hit
two
minutes.
I
will
mute
you
because
we
have
so
many
folks
coming
to
speak.
It's
it's
already
over
40
people.
So
two
minutes
we
will
be
tight
to
two
minutes.
I
will
have
an
alarm
when
the
alarm
goes
off.
That
is
two
minutes.
Please
try
to
keep
yourself
two
two
minutes
please
be
respectful
in
your
comments.
No
profanity
and
no
personal
attacks
on
council
members
or
the
administration
will
be
tolerated.
A
These
are
the
really
the
only
rules
that
we
have
so
as
chair.
I
will
give
you
one
warning:
if
you
continue
to
be
profane
or
attack
someone,
then
you
will
have
to
be
muted
and
removed
from
the
hearing.
In
addition,
please
make
sure
that
your
zoom
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matches
the
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under
which
you
signed
up
for
public
testimony
so
that
we
can
appropriately
bump
you
up.
People
will
be
called
in
the
order
in
which
they
signed
up.
A
So
please
make
sure
that
your
name
is
there,
so
that
our
tech
team
can
pop
you
in
so
that
you
can
do
your
public
testimony
under
the
name
which
you've
signed
up
for
public
testimony
and
again,
if
you
haven't
signed
up
for
public
testimony
yet-
and
you
are
listening
to
this
and
you
would
like
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email,
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that
I
s,
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n
e
dot,
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donald
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l,
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at
boston.gov
and
you'll
be
set
to
zoom
link
and
signed
up.
A
M
Thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
I
appreciate
the
thoughtful
discussion
that
counselors
are
engaging
in
I've
learned
a
lot,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
difficulty
of
police
enforcement,
though,
to
me
there's
a
bigger
issue
and
I'm
not
a
lawyer,
so
I'm
going
to
focus
on
the
bigger
issue.
These
last
few
years
have
had
a
horrific
effect
on
our
practices
of
democracy,
intentional
blurring
of
the
line
between
facts
and
conspiracy
theories,
naming
the
media
as
an
enemy
labeling
violent
insurrection
at
the
u.s
capitol
as
legitimate
public
discourse.
M
We
have
a
lot
to
do
to
reassert
boundaries.
Counselor
mejia
said
that
harassment
is
part
of
the
job.
What
a
sad
sad
statement
disagreement
is
part
of
the
job,
not
harassment.
The
line
has
gotten
so
blurred
that
we
think
harassment
is
normal
and
acceptable.
Harassment
should
not
be
normal
or
acceptable
school
committee
members
and
election
officials
and
superintendents
across
the
state
are
being
harassed
and
intimidated.
M
M
We
might
have
wished
that
individual
responsibility
and
empathy
would
be
sufficient
to
guide
people
to
protest
in
civil
modes.
Clearly
they
aren't
if
people
want
to
want
to
make
their
views
known.
There
are
plenty
of
modes
and
plenty
of
hours
picketing
at
9.
00
am
can
get
the
point
across
once
or
a
few
times
at
limited
decibels,
or
even
silent,
vigils
picketing
on
busy
streets
or
outside
of
government
buildings,
holding
a
forum
writing
letters
to
the
editor
separate
from
picketing
altogether.
M
There
are
many
options,
in
fact,
all
of
those
modes
get
the
point
across
better
better.
That
is
if
one's
goals
are
to
raise
awareness,
convey
a
message,
influence
public
opinion
or
raise
issues.
So
why
use
tactics
at
like
picketing
at
high
decibels
outside
of
homes
at
challenging
hours
day
after
day
after
day,
week
after
week,
month
after
month,
those
are
tactics
for
harassing
and
intimidating?
A
N
Hi,
hello,
am
I
yeah
yeah.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify.
I
live
across
the
street
from
mayor
wu,
five
houses
down
and
even
though
you've
been
talking
about
this
I'd
like
to
describe
what
the
last
couple
months
have
been
like
for
me,
and
my
neighbors
we've
been
woken
up,
often
daily
for
weeks
on
an
end
at
seven
o'clock,
with
drumming
whistling
and
loud
shouting
and
the
level.
N
So
that
might
be
an
hour,
although
this
morning
it
was
well
well
over
an
hour
if
we
go
outside
the
house,
we're
confronted
with
the
most
vicious
personal
attack
signs
for
the
mayor,
who
is
not
only
our
mayor
but
a
friend,
a
neighbor,
a
mother
and
a
daughter
in
this
neighborhood,
and
if
we
have
gone
down
and
walked
by
the
mayor's
house,
the
most
aggressive
of
the
protesters
will
accost
us
with
conspiracy
theories
about
the
neighbor
about
the
mayor
and
we're
not
any
different
than
any
other
neighborhood,
and
I
think,
as
counselor
flynn
has
suggested,
what
we're
doing
at
seven
o'clock
is.
N
Some
of
us
are
older
or
sicker
trying
to
sleep
more.
Some
of
us
are
taking
our
kids
to
daycare
or
leaving
for
work.
Some
of
us
are
getting
home
from
hospital
shifts
and
trying
to
sleep.
After
being
up
all
night,
some
of
us
are
trying
to
put
cranky
infants
back
to
sleep,
and
some
of
some
of
our
working
parents
who
have
school-aged
kids
might
be
trying
to
enjoy
some
of
the
few
precious
family
moments
they
they
actually
get
in
their
life.
N
So,
for
these
reasons
I
really
ask
you
to
I'm,
not
a
lawyer.
I
and
I
really
do
firmly
support
the
right
to
protest
the
right
to
speech.
I
think
these
are
very,
very,
very
important
considerations.
So
I'm
glad
you're
thinking
about
this
very,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
the
that
it
is
crafted
in
a
narrow
enough
way
that
we're
both
protecting
free
speech
and
protests
and,
at
the
same
time
we're
protecting
the
rights
of
the
neighborhood
and
there
I
have
another
ask.
But
I
know
it's
not
sorry.
A
We've
hit
the
we've
hit
the
two
minutes.
One
thing
I
will
say
for
folks
as
we
hit
the
two
minutes,
you
can
email
us
and
we'll
put
your
the
entirety
of
your
commentary
on
the
record,
but
I
we
have
so
many
people
signed
up.
We
have
to
keep
it
to
the
two
minutes,
so
I'm
sorry
that
we
have
to
end
it.
There
miss
lab.
A
N
A
One
thing
I
will
also
ask
folks:
I
see
we
have
folks
still
signed
up
on
attend
on
the
attendee
list,
with
one
name
just
their
first
name.
If
you
can,
please
ch
make
sure
that
your
full
name
is
there,
so
that
we
can,
as
you
signed
up
to
testify.
So
when
you
sent
in
a
name
to
testify
at
please
make
sure
the
name
is
the
name
that
you
have
there
fully
so
that
we
can
call
you
up
with
that
shayna
katone.
P
O
That
thank
you
for
having
me
the
reason
that
we
ended
up
going
to
the
mayor's
house
just
for
context
and
and
historical
posterity
is
that
the
mayor
closed
city,
hall,
okay,
and
when
you
close
city
hall,
and
you
don't
allow
constituents
to
air
their
grievances
they're
going
to
go
and
they're
going
to
make
their
grievances
heard.
I
do
question
the
9
a.m,
to
9
00
p.m.
O
Time
frame,
as
the
previous
panelist
said,
protesting
tends
to
take
place
between
7
7
30
to
8
30,
which
is
when
the
mayor
leaves
okay,
so
it's
that
is
targeted
protesting.
It's
not
an
all-day
event.
It
is
specifically
to
try
and
engage
the
mayor,
make
our
voices
be
heard,
which
he
repeatedly
and
consistently
has
refused
to
do.
You
know
hearing
the
city
counselor
speak.
I've
heard
the
term
entitled
used
a
lot.
O
Feelings
are
not
facts
and
rights
are
not
negotiable.
Our
rights
to
constitutionally
demonstrate
are
not
something
that
should
be
negotiated
or
legislated
through
ordinance,
and
the
fact
that
a
sunset
clause
is
even
being
considered
shows
that
this
is.
This
ordinance
is
being
specifically
written
for
mayor
wu
and
for
the
politicians
that
have
been
protested.
O
You
know
the
protest
has
been
called
harassing
sexist
racist
anti-semitic.
None
of
this
has
any
fact
to
support
it.
If
that
were
the
case,
there
would
be
police
reports
that
support
these
allegations.
If
there
are
any,
I
would
like
those
to
be
entered
into
the
record
to
support
those
allegations
and
also
any
video,
if
there's
anything,
to
support
that,
and
this
seems
to
be
a
case
of
nimby,
not
in
my
backyard.
Why
don't
we
address
the
real
noise
issues
that
are
going
on
in
the
neighborhoods
loud
parties?
O
You
know
music,
the
things
that
constituents
complain
about
thousands
upon
thousands
of
times
a
year.
You
know
councilor
flynn
referred
to
some
protests
over
the
years
as
professional
these.
These
aren't
professional
protests,
mr
flynn
you're
right.
These
are
grassroots
protesters
who
are
out
there,
making
their
voices
heard
we're
a
diverse
range
of
protesters
who
are
airing
our
grievances.
O
We
are
men,
women
of
all,
races,
religions
and
sexual
orientations,
and
I
personally
take
umbrage
being
put
in
a
box
and
being
mischaracterized
and
mislabeled
and
as
far
as
it
goes,
counselor
arroyo.
You
said
that
you're
comfortable
engaging
with
constituents,
yet
you
can
sit.
You
continue
to
only
hold
zoom
hearings.
You
said
it's
convenient
and
encourages
more
participation.
Well,
if
city
hall
is
going
to.
A
O
Don't
we
do
a
hybrid
hearing
with
in
person
and
also
zoom.
R
Yes,
hello,
one!
Second,
sorry,
I
don't
know
if
I
can
work
out
the
video,
but
thank
you
for
having
me
also.
I
would
like
to
start
with
a
quote.
I
felt
like
no
one
in
government
was
even
acknowledging
real
life,
much
less
trying
to
help
us.
This
is
a
quote
from
michelle
wu
in
2012.
R
Finally,
she
should
say
that,
because
in
2022
she
is
the
government
not
even
acknowledging
real
life,
much
less
trying
to
help
us.
That's
how
I
feel
mia
wu
has
had
months
to
sit
down
with
the
people.
She
claims
to
represent
people
who
have
been
outside
of
her
home
exactly
for
the
same
for
the
reason
that
sheena
just
mentioned,
which
was
that
she
closed
the
city
hall.
She
has
dodged
real
questions,
real
discourse.
She
has
essentially
been
gaslighting
dissenting
voices.
R
She
dog
whistles
the
press
to
liable
protesters
of
all
backgrounds
as
anything,
but
what
they've
been,
which
is
advocates
for
human
rights?
Who
has
the
audacity
to
imply
that
protesters
in
front
of
her
house
speak
against
her
as
a
person
of
color?
What
a
croc
of
curse?
When
you
excuse
my
language
at
least
half
of
the
people
in
front
of
her
house
are
minority
women,
including
immigrants,
myself
included
she's,
not
doing
her
job.
R
That's
why
people
lie
in
front
of
her
house
and
u.s
boston
city
council
need
to
put
to
to
make
a
case
of
that
situation,
because
you
guys
should
be
putting
pressure
on
her
to
do
her
job.
Well,
she
might
be
new
in
this.
She
may
not
have
all
the
experiences
that
you
guys
have,
maybe
cumulatively,
so
why
don't
you
actually
point
out
to
her
that
she
needs
to
maybe
address
this
issue,
not
by
ordinances
that
are
completely.
R
You
know
encroaching
on
people's
rights,
but
rather
maybe
you
know
after
the
first
protest
or
second
or
third
or
fourth,
perhaps
you
should
have
just
sat
down
with
people
and
talked
with
them.
It's
the
frustration
of
seeing
marginalized
marginalized
commute
is
already
marginalized,
being
marginalized
even
further.
You
know,
minority
communities
have
been
treated
as
second-class
citizens
and
it's
extremely
upsetting
to
live
in
a
society
like
this.
R
So
all
of
us
who
are
coming
to
the
protest
and
I've
been
there
many
times
which,
by
the
way,
I
started
with
one
police
officer
in
front
of
me
rules
house.
Now
it's
up
to
17
police
officers,
two
paddy
wagons.
You
know,
god
knows
how
much
money
is
being
wasted-
taxpayers
money.
R
It's
really
upsetting
to
see
that
mayor,
who
claims
to
be
transparent
and
progressive,
is
not
even
doing
her
basic
job
which
is
hearing
her
constituents
so
to
to
the
point
of
you
know,
9am
who
who
would
be
speaking
to
at
9am
if
maya
was
in
her
office
and
she's,
not
taking
meetings
with
us
who
would
exactly
would
be
addressing
at
9
00
a.m
or
10
a.m,
right
and
by
the
way,
who's
harassing,
whom
she's
literally
been
involved
in
abusing
children.
The
children
are
still
masked
in
boston.
I'm.
A
R
A
Thank
you.
I
do
thank
you,
so
that's
the
two
minutes
there.
I
just
want
to
be
clear
too,
on
when
we
talk
about
city
hall,
being
closed
city
hall
has
been
opened
by
appointments,
but
has
certainly
been
open
throughout
this
time,
just
just
so
that
we
have
that
on
the
record
as
well.
I
have
nicole
oliva
next
and
then
I
believe
david
rolled
after
her.
Thank
you
nicole.
The
floor
is
yours
and
I'll
reset
the
timer
and
go
from
there.
S
Thank
you
to
quickly
say
you
know,
just
echoing
that
last
two
speakers
that
I'm
opposed
to
the
ordinance.
I
feel
that
it's
a
violation
of
our
first
amendment
right
and
as
it's
been
pointed
out,
you
know
that
we
can
go
and
protest
in
front
of
city
hall,
but
nobody's
there
so
nobody's
gonna,
listen
to
what
people
have
to
say.
So
unless
we're
going
to
be
there
every
day,
then
people
need
to
continue
to
go
to
where
the
elected
officials
are,
and
that
is
their
home.
S
So
mayor
wu
wants
to
hide
behind
a
wall
of
police.
She
wants
to
hide
and
put
in
an
ordinance
that
you
know.
Contin,
you
know
allows
her
to
not
be
held
accountable
for
her
actions,
and
people
are
upset.
She's
not
even
been
in
office
for
a
year
yet
and
she's
already
turned
the
city
into
more
of
a
divisive
nightmare
and
that's
what
this
ordinance
is
going
to
continue
to.
You
know
if
it
goes
into
effect.
S
A
Resetting
the
alarm,
who
do
we
have
david
here
already?
No,
who
who
is
here
nicole,
who
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
who's
next
on
the
list,
who's
actually
candace.
A
I
see
we
have
catherine
vitale
vitale,
I
think,
is
also
on
the
list,
but
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
catheter
by
cali
in
the
meeting
room
in
the
attendees
room.
A
There
we
go
catherine
vitale.
The
floor
is
yours
and
I
hope
I
pronounced
your
last
name
right.
I'm
sorry!
If
I
didn't.
W
You
did
actually
okay
and
david
rolled
is,
is
on
the
zoom
too.
By
the
way
I.
W
Since
december
20th,
many
constituents
have
tried
to
speak
to
the
mayor
about
her
unconstitutional
mandates
and
dictatorial
tendencies
that
are
negatively
affecting
us,
our
children
and
small
businesses
of
boston.
She
walks
by,
like
we
don't
exist,
calls
us
trolls
on
the
internet
and
refuses
to
engage
us.
She
tells
the
media.
We
are
hateful
and
perpetuates
lies
about
us
being
racist
and
sexist,
and
to
that
I
will
state
for
the
record
that
our
displeasure
with
mayor
wu
has
nothing
to
do
with
her
race
or
gender,
but
everything
to
do
with
her
policies.
W
It
is
her
role
to
represent
all
constituents
and,
if
she's
unable
to
do
so,
she
is
unfit
for
the
job
she
has
made
it
a
point
to
visit
places
that
have
openly
discriminated
against
us
like
penguin,
pizza
and
copley
library.
She
addresses
us
subliminally,
but
won't
talk
to
us.
The
job
of
an
elected
official
is
to
represent
your
constituents,
not
just
the
ones
who
agree
with
you
and
not
just
the
ones
who
voted
for
you.
W
As
for
the
ordinance
goes,
I
oppose,
but
public
opinion
doesn't
seem
to
matter
here.
So
I
guess
I'd
just
like
to
say
to
every
member
of
the
public.
Listening
to
this.
It
is
our
moral
obligation
to
disobey
unjust
laws
when
elected
officials
become
self-serving,
tyrants,
it's
our
responsibility
as
free
people,
as
parents
and
as
americans,
whether
born
here
or
not,
documented
or
not,
to
come
together
and
remove
them
from
office.
It
is
our
responsibility
to
make
sure
they
are
upholding
the
constitution
and
if
they're
not,
they
have
to
go
all.
A
Thank
you
for
staying
to
time,
david
roldy
or
roll
d,
and
please
do
correct
me
on
the
last
name.
Names
are
important,
but
david
roldy.
I
see
you're
here.
X
Can
you
hear
me
now?
Yes,
there
you
are
sir
sorry,
my
last
name
is
ruled,
so
I'm
glad
glad
to
have
the
opportunity
to
speak,
but
I
I
wish
the
hearing
where
in
person
you
know
it's,
democracy
is
better
in
person
and
there's
there's
no
emer,
there's
no
health
emergency.
Now
so
I
I
hear
you
all
that
you
think
that
the
proposed
ordinance
would
be
legal,
but
I
think
you're
wrong.
The
proposed
ordinance
is
not
content
neutral.
X
The
ordinance
says
quote
that
it
would
prohibit
quote
picketing,
protesting
or
demonstrating,
with
or
without
science
that
is
specifically
directed
toward
a
particular
residence
or
one
or
more
occupants
of
the
residents.
Unquote,
there
is
nothing
in
the
proposed
ordinance
about
noise
or
disruption,
or
the
physical
character
or
activity
of
the
gathering.
X
People
would
still
be
allowed,
would
still
be
permitted
to
gather
outside
someone's
house
for
any
other
reason
that
is
not
related
to
protesting
against
documents
of
the
house.
The
ordinance
is,
the
ordinance
is
specifically
directed
against
the
contents
of
the
gathering
that
the
speech
or
thought
would
is
considered
to
be
protest
or
demonstration
or
picketing.
X
You
can't
regulate
the
content
of
speech.
You
can't
say
that
it's
okay
to
gather
on
a
street
or
in
front
of
someone's
house
as
long
as
it
is
not
a
protest
against
someone
who
lives
there.
The
proposed
ordinance
specifically
states
that
it
would
not
prohibit
ticketing
in
residential
areas
or
marches
that
pass
through
residential
areas.
X
The
prohibited
action
is
only
distinguished
by
the
content
of
the
speech.
If
enacted,
this
ordinance
would
not
only
be
illegal,
it
would
immediately
be
discriminatory
as
many
of
the
people
who
have
been
protesting
at
the
mayor's
house
are
black
people,
latinos
asian
people,
women
and
working
class
people
standing
up
for
their
rights.
If
you
adopt
this
ordinance,
the
protesters
will
not
comply
and
you
will
be
faced
with
a
successful
lawsuit
against
the
city
to
challenge
the
ordinance.
X
Thank
you.
You're
welcome.
X
Yeah
covet
is
a
hoax.
So-Called
vaccines
are
poison
passports,
digital
ids,
digital.
A
I
wish
we
didn't
tell
you,
you
could
finish
your
last
thought.
Thank
you,
sir
who's.
Next
we
have
shannon
london
if
she's
here.
Y
A
A
Padma
I
see
that
we've
brought
you
into
the
chat
you
have.
You
have
two
minutes
once
you
once
you
get
padma
scott.
A
I
see
that
we
have
elevated
you
to
panelist
padma.
If
you
can
unmute.
If
you
are
there
all
right,
there.
Z
We
are
how
y'all
doing
thank
you
for
your
time.
My
name
is
pat
mascot.
I'm
one
of
the
protesters
and
the
reason
that
we've
been
out
in
front
of
mayor
wu's
house
is
because
we
have
done
all
the
phone
calls,
the
emails,
all
the
things
that
you
say.
We
should
do.
We've
gone
to
city
hall,
ed
flynn
promised
us
20
minutes
of
his
time
and
he
has
still
yet
to
give
us
that
he
told
us
that
we
had
to
go
outside
in
the
cold
in
the
freezing
weather.
Z
That
was
the
only
way
that
he
would
speak
to
us.
We
still
need
those
20
minutes.
We
were
promised.
This
ordinance
is
unconstitutional.
It
is
infringing
on
our
first
amendment
rights.
Okay,
we
are
regular
people.
I
am
a
mother
of
a
son
in
boston,
public
schools.
Most
of
us
are
mothers
and
fathers.
We
are
not
threatening
people;
they
were
every
day
daily
about
16
cops
out
in
front.
If
we
had
actually
threatened
the
mayor,
we
would
have
been
arrested.
So
please
stop
lying
about
us.
Please
stop
calling
us
racist
mayor
flynn.
Z
Ed
flynn
also
suggested
using
a
stay
away
order
against
us,
which
would
further
criminalize
us.
We
are
already
marginalized
people,
I'm
african-american
and
I'm
a
woman
and
I'm
marginalized.
I'm
also
did
not
get
the
experimental
covet
shot,
so
I'm
also
being
marginalized
as
an
unvaccinated
person.
The
mayor
does
not
have
a
right
to
do
this.
She
is
a
public
servant.
She
needs
to
answer
to
we,
the
people
we
also.
This
is
very
it's
retaliatory,
because
this
ordinance
is
directed
specifically
at
us.
Why
have
we
been
doing
it
at
7
a.m?
Z
Because
some
of
us
who
have
not
been
fired?
We
still
have
jobs.
We
have
to
feed
our
families
as
well,
so
we
have
to
be
there
early
before
she
leaves
to
work.
Okay.
We
are
sorry
about
the
neighbors.
This
is
not
directed
at
them.
If
she
would
have
answered
us,
we
would
not
have
to
be
there.
Okay,
you
do
not
get
to
decide
when
we
get
to
to
exercise
our
first
amendment
rights.
We
need
to
be
heard.
She
doesn't
listen
to
us.
She
will
not
speak
to
us.
We
will
not
be
oppressed.
Z
We,
the
people,
pay
all
of
your
salaries,
all
of
you,
city,
counselors,
a
public
servant.
You
answer
to
us
and
when
are
you
going
to
end
this
emergency?
Why
is
it
that
the
children
of
boston,
public
schools
are
still
being
forced
to
wear
masks
when
you
all
do
not
wear
masks
at
your
parties?
It
is
disgusting.
We
stand
for
the
children
of
boston,
we
stand
for
children,
unmastered
children.
When
are
you
gonna?
Do
it
when
you
need
to
lift
all
covert
19
restrictions?
You
know
that
it's
a
fraud,
because
you
don't
follow
it.
Z
A
Ansi
congas,
I
believe,
is
next
and
I
hope
I
pronounce
that
last
name
right.
Please
do
correct
me
if
it's
incorrect
names
are
important.
AA
Yes,
names
are
important
so
good
morning
my
name
is
ansi
kangas,
and
I
would
first
like
to
address
that.
This
meeting
is
on
zoom,
as
I
am
a
single
mom
with
two
children.
I
have
dealt
with
school
being
at
home
on
zoom
and
my
children
going
to
school
hybrid.
So
I
don't
understand
how
you
guys
are
not
able
to
do
a
hybrid
meeting
seen
as
kids
with
hundreds
of
kids
in
school
are
able
to
do
that.
This
is
not
inclusive,
as
everybody
is
not
able
to
attend
as
they
choose.
AA
As
for
the
docket
312,
I
personally
think
that
this
is
a
waste
of
time.
As
the
mayor
is
trying
to
ignore
her
constituents,
the
mayor
has
a
job
and
her
job
is
to
unite
my
capital
city.
She
has
done
all
she
has
done
is
divide
my
city.
I
am
not
a
boston
resident,
I'm
a
massachusetts
resident.
AA
I
should
not
have
to
be
missing
work
to
be
dealing
with
this
today.
It
is
against
our
rights
to
not
be
able
to
go
to
who
has
the
power
to
change
the
problems
we
have
instead
of
michelle
wu,
doing
something
productive
with
her
time.
Like
setting
up
proper,
coveted
exemptions
as
to
people
with
health
or
religious
reasons,
she
is
allowed
to
do
this
instead,
as
her
guidelines
discriminate,
segregate
and
discriminate
against
people
for
health
and
religious
reasons,
not
race
reasons
for
not
getting
vaccinated
or
wearing
masks.
AA
I
would
like
to
ask
you
all
to
vote
no
on
this,
as
it
is
not
productive.
Michelle
wu
should
be
doing
productive
things
with
her
time.
I
don't
think
she
understands
that
this
state
was
built
on
religious
and
medical
freedoms
that
we
should
all
have.
She
has
come
into
my
house
to
tell
me
what
is
safe
and
healthy
for
my
children.
AA
AA
A
Thank
you
for
being
timely.
I
appreciate
you
sticking
to
your
two
minutes:
jacqueline
pelletier.
A
AB
Thank
you,
hi,
I'm
here,
to
submit
my
public
comment
for
the
record
in
opposition
of
docket
number
312
as
well.
I
think
adding
restrictions
on
protests
violates
americans
first
amendment
protections.
These
protections
are
under
first
amendment.
They
exist
for
24
hours
a
day
and
seven
days
a
week,
and
these
talking
about
protests
not
talking
about
harassment,
not
talking
about
vandalism
or
harming
another
person
at
all.
Just
talking
about
what
protests
actually
are.
AB
AB
A
It
had
to
happen
at
least
once
I
was
thanking
miss
pelletier
for
staying
within
her
two
minute
window.
It's
only
happened
twice,
and
so
I'm
grateful
that
it
did.
I
don't
see.
Jeff
goretti
is
jeff
peretti
here.
AC
A
And
then
mr
hickey
is
also
not
here.
AD
Hi,
thank
you
so
much
for
having
this
meeting
and
letting
us
speak
our
minds
about
this.
I
would
just
like
to
ask
the
question:
let's
bring
the
context
of
these
protests
up?
Why
are
we
protesting?
AD
AD
Her
policies
have
disrupted,
interrupted
and
targeted
our
lives,
I'm
a
mother
of
five
children,
and
how
do
I
explain
to
my
children
that
we
have
to
show
a
vaccine
passport
to
go
into
boston,
we've
studied
history
and
we've
seen
my
own
children
know
that
this
sounds
like
nazi
germany.
This
sounds
like
hitler.
AD
I
have
five
children
and
peace
and
quiet
is
important,
but
the
so
we
should
be
following
the
noise
decibels,
but
it
is
a
part
of
a
free
country.
There
will
be
stress
there
will
be
tears
for
our
children
as
leaders.
I
grew
up
in
the
house
of
a
leader
and
we
were
targeted
many
times,
but
you
know
what
that
did
as
a
child
and
as
I
grew
up,
it
made
me
stronger
and
it
made
me
and
gave
me
the
voice
that
I
have
today.
AD
A
Next,
the
next
name
that
I
see
that
is
present
just
a
quick
one
over
for
dolores
mcgee
and
charlie
adams.
If
you
are
in
the
chat,
please
put
your
name
as
as
those
if
you
are
here
in
our
going
by
one,
but
I
see
cynthia
maloney
is
here,
and
so
I'd
like
to
give
cynthia
maloney
her
two
minutes
to
speak
so
cynthia
maloney.
Once
you
are
ready,
the
floor
is
yours.
AE
Hi,
I'm
a
lifetime
boston
area
resident
I've.
I
grew
up
in
watertown,
I'm
still
here.
I've
been
in
and
out
of
boston.
My
whole
life
when
people
ask
me
where
I
live,
I
say
boston,
even
though
it's
watertown,
because
that's
how
close
I
am
to
boston
and
that's
how
I
feel
about
boston.
I
have
been
here
throughout
all
these
mirrors:
jordan,
collins,
kevin
white,
ray
flynn,
mayor
menino,
marty,
walsh,
and
I
have
never.
AE
They
all
had
their
problems.
They
were
not
not
saints
by
any
stretch
the
imagination,
but
they
all
had
one
thing
in
common:
they
all
loved
boston,
they
all
loved
boston
and
they
all
loved
the
boston
people,
regardless
of
their
stance.
This
woman,
mayor
wu,
does
not
love
boston.
She
does
not
listen
to
the
people.
She
hasn't
listened
to.
The
people
she's
kept
us
out
of
city
hall,
she's
kept
us
out
of
the
state
house,
she's,
keeping
us
out
of
restaurants,
she's,
making
kids
get
a
poison
experimental
shot.
A
So,
just
just
to
be
clear:
you're
not
done
with
your
time,
but
that
is
your.
Your
first
warning
just
in
turn
stop
censoring.
V
A
So
just
first
warning
on
content:
no.
A
So
I'm
just
gonna
go
ahead
and
do
that
cynthia
you
can
continue
still
got
a
minute.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear
just
on
the
two
things:
no
profanity,
no
personal
callouts.
Everything
else
is
fine.
AE
AE
Free
speech
is
free
speech
when,
in
the
course
of
human
events,
it
becomes
necessary
to
get
rid
of
the
government
that
is
overreaching.
This
is
what
we're
at
right.
Now,
you
people
are
overreaching,
it's
ridiculous.
How
far
you've
overreached
you've
taken
off
it's
ridiculous,
it's
absolutely
insane
how
bad
this
is
getting
and
you
need
to
listen
to
us.
G
G
You
know
issues
as
it
relates
to
the
why
we
even
are
having
this
discussion,
so
I
just
want
to
be
really
super
clear
about
what
this
specific
rest
of
the
testimonies
are
going
to
be
about,
because
I'm
listening
in
in
regards
to
the
ordinance,
but
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
other
stuff.
So
I
just
want
to
be.
I
just
want
to
understand
what
I'm
you
know
what
I'm.
A
Engaging
in,
and
so
it's
so
basically,
you
know
public
comment
is
the
publix,
and
so
I'm
hoping
that
the
two
minutes
are
focused
on
this
particular
ordinance,
but
as
long
as
there's
no
profanity
as
long
as
there's
no
personal
attacks
or
call
outs
folks
are
happy
if
they
want
to
use
those
two
minutes
to
discuss
something
else,
then
I
guess
that's
what
they're
gonna
do,
but
I
would
prefer
that
it'd
be
about
this
ordinance.
A
Frankly,
as
long
as
it's
not
profane
as
long
as
it's
not
personal
attacks
or
call
outs,
you
are
happy
to
use
your
two
minutes
to
speak
about
what
it
may
be
that
you
would
like
to
share
with
us.
I
don't
know
who
is
now
here.
Is
it
harley
center.
AF
Hi,
thank
you.
So
I
appreciate
you
know
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
public
and
to
all
the
counselors
here.
I
just
want
to
go
start
off
by
saying
that
I
am
personally
opposed
to
this
ordinance.
I
think
it
is
a
infringement
on
our
first
amendment
rights
to
freedom
of
speech.
You
know.
AF
I
also
heard
some
statements
by
the
counselors
that
I
wanted
to
correct
in
that
some
of
the
the
remarks
were
anti-semitic
or
racist,
and
you
know,
as
someone
of
jewish
background,
I'm
completely
confused
by
this
remark,
because
it's
completely
not
based
on
facts.
AF
I
I
could
never
imagine
that
and
and
we're
an
incredibly
diverse
amount
of
people
and
we're
not
united,
necessarily
by
skin
color
or
ethnic
background,
but
appreciation
for
freedom
and
civil
rights,
and
that's
what
we're
at
right
now-
and
I
just
want
to
say
in
brief
that
the
reason
that
people
are
out
there
protesting
for
this
is
because
they
have
not
been
able
to
express
themselves
and
have
the
leadership
the
civil
leadership
in
the
city,
cheer
them
out.
Truly.
AF
So
that's
where
they're
from
that's,
where
they're
coming
from
and
they
need
to
have
their
voices
heard
and
they're
not
threatening
anyone.
There's
no
evidence
for
that,
and
no
I'm
going
to
oppose
this
ordinance,
and
I
hope
that
you
consider
that.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
mr
carly,
for
your
time
and
for
sticking
on
time.
Thank
you
for
that.
That
is
a
model
of
of
what
we're
seeking
is
just
public
comment
clear
to
the
point
who
is
next
that
we
have
in
line
it
should
be
just
trying
to
follow
as
we
go
through
lots
of
folks
signed
up.
Not
all
of
them
are
here
for
folks
that
are
trying
to
figure
out
what's
happening
now,.
AG
Thank
you.
I
also
would
like
to
say
I
wish
this
hearing
was
in
person
and
not
on
zoom
and
I'm
addressing
my
testimony
to
mayor
wu.
Along
with
the
city
councillors.
My
name
is
kate
tisdale
as
a
tax
paying
resident
of
boston.
I
am
extremely
alarmed
at
your
authoritarian
and
self-serving
impulse
to
restrict
the
freedom
of
speech
of
bostonians.
AG
As
you
know,
the
first
amendment
to
our
constitution
protects
the
freedom
of
speech
and
the
right
of
the
people
to
peaceably
assemble
and
to
petition
the
government
for
a
redress
of
grievances.
When
you
restrict
people's
god-given
right
to
free
speech,
you
strike
at
the
central
nervous
system
of
the
united
states.
AG
AG
AG
I
find
it
staggering
that
you
were
embroiled
in
a
legal
battle
with
our
first
responders
the
very
people
who
were
heroes
of
the
pandemic
just
months
ago.
If
you
insist
on
remaining
ardently
committed
to
your
position
with
regard
to
these
coveted
mandates,
then
you
must
be
prepared
to
take
the
heat.
That
comes
your
way.
AG
A
Now
I'm
gonna
go
down
the
list.
We're
gonna.
Do
this
one
at
a
time,
candace,
jessica
abu.
Is
she
here.
Y
P
Hello,
I
just
want
to
say
that
this
is
a
violation
of
our
first
amendment
rights
and
if
it
goes
through,
we
will
sue
enough
is
enough.
You
want
a
reasonable
compromise
want
to
know
why
this
is
so
different.
Never
seen
this
before
when
in
the
history
of
boston.
Has
the
mayor
violated
human
rights?
Never
is
it
okay
to
violate
our
human
rights.
P
This
administration
does
not
allow
for
the
ability
for
us
to
agree
to
disagree
when
they
imposed
tyrannical
medical
appetite
on
the
birthplace
of
freedom,
boston,
beginning
on
martin
luther
king
jr's
birthday
after
receiving
his
legacy
award.
Nonetheless,
what
this
ordinance
is
really
about
is
targeting
a
group
of
concerned
citizens
who
will
not
allow
the
government
to
violate
their
god-given
basic
human
rights
of
bodily
autonomy,
a
right
given
by
god
and
protected
by
the
constitution.
P
What
options
do
we
have
when
elected
officials
refuse
to
hear
our
grievances
and
write
us
off
as
a
small
group
of
trolls
who
she
will
not
answer?
Two
questions
from
or
even
look
us
in
the
eye
she
has
mocked
and
muted
us
on
twitter
spread
lies
about
us,
calling
us
racist
and
sexist,
which
is
simply
not
true
on
the
radio
in
the
news
ignores
meeting.
Requests
from
us
ignores
our
concerns
on
ig
live
when
you
close
the
state
house
in
city
hall
on
a
whim
as
she
pleased
and
gaslight
us.
Where
can
we
go?
P
Those
who
criticize
her
discriminatory,
unjust,
unsafe,
unscientific
views
are
seen
as
second
class
minorities.
She
has
dehumanized
us
insulted
us
mocked
us
refuses
to
hear
our
concerns.
No
one
has
the
right
to
dictate
medical
decisions
for
people
who
want
to
live,
work
or
visit
boston.
No
one
has
that
right.
Besides
the
individual,
we
have
tried
to
meet
with
her
in
city
hall.
We
have
had
a
huge
protest
on
her
inauguration
with
many
boston
firemen
in
attendance.
She
refused
to
let
us
in
or
talk
to
us
marty
walsh
came
out
to
hear
our
grievances.
P
A
Thank
you,
julie,
who
do
we
have
up
next
one?
Second,
let
me
just
reset
that
all
right
who
do
we
have
next
is
miss
gonzalez
here,
no
and
candice.
Can
we
just
bring
them
in
when
I
call
them?
Please,
yes,
is
beth
hoffman
here.
AH
Yeah,
I
thought
so.
Thank
you.
This
doctored
item
is
an
attempt
to
compromise
free
speech.
Haven't
we
all
been
awakened
at
7,
00
or
8
a.m
by
utility
workers?
This
seems
to
be
cherry
picking.
It
is
an
abuse
of
power
to
change
aspects
of
an
ordinance
simply
out
of
convenience
for
disagreeing
with
what
protesters
are
objecting
to,
or
even
the
strategic
time
of
day,
they're
choosing
to
protest.
This
would
harm
free
speech
and
democracy.
AH
Interesting
that
the
proposed
ordinance
only
covers
the
time
a
mayor
wu
leaves
for
work
or
returns
from
work,
and
it
masquerades
as
a
concern
for
her
neighbors.
The
protests
are
directed
to
marawu's
actions
and
her
decisions
being
made
for
citizens
mayor
who
needs
to
hear
and
engage
with
the
citizens.
Grievances
to
deny
the
protests
at
a
particular
time
of
day
is
limiting
free
speech.
It
more
resembles
more
resembles
fascism
or
communism.
AH
AH
Mayor
wu
is
using
her
office
of
privilege
to
appease
a
whim.
This
is
unjust
and
very
surprising
for
a
group
who
typically
wants
social
justice.
This
is
justice
for
some,
but
not
justice
for
all,
which
is
explicitly
stated
in
our
pledge
of
allegiance
to
address
the
comment
that
this
degree
of
protest
hasn't
been
seen
before.
Please
consider
what
these
protests
are
in.
Opposition
to
their
repetitive
nature
is
essential
as
a
response
to
mayor
wu's
actions
masking
children
showing
papers,
etc.
AH
AI
Yes,
thank
you
counselor.
Thank
you.
AI
My
name
is
evan
george,
I'm
here
as
a
dorchester
resident
and
put
in
a
little
bit
of
a
uncomfortable
situation
in
that
I
have
nothing
but
contempt
for
this
particular
political
organization
and
a
great
deal
of
sympathy
for
both
the
mayor's
family
and
for
the
neighborhood,
which
is
why
first
I'd
like
to
express,
I
hope
that
they
start
to
enforce
the
existing
noise
ordinance.
That
is
already
on
the
books
and
I
kind
of
question.
Why
was
this
body
allowed
to
violate
it
for
weeks
on
end
without
any
consequences?
AI
But
still
I
am
here
to
speak
against
this
measure
because
of
many
of
the
reasons
expressed.
What
ultimately,
this
is
about-
and
I
think
everyone
here
in
good
faith
can
admit-
is
that
this
is
a
particular
politician
who
has
a
problem
with
a
particular
protest
and
to
allow
the
precedent
of
a
politician
to
restrict
what
protests
do
they
accept?
Which
ones
do
they
not
will
ultimately
just
lead
us
to
a
place
where
all
protests
will
not
be
allowed,
except
for
the
ones
that
again
benefit
the
people
who
are
already
in
power.
AI
I
have
participated
in
dozens,
if
not
hundreds
of
protests,
sometimes
at
public
institutions,
but
also
in
private
residences,
and
you
hope
that
the
cause
that
you
have
is
just,
and
you
hope
that
the
tactics
that
you
are
using
meet
that
goal
now.
Do
I
think
that
this
political
organizations
causes
just
absolutely
not
do
I
think
that
their
current
tactics
of
this
early
morning
protests
meet
their
goals.
It
absolutely
does
not.
AI
However,
do
I
want
any
government
and
being
this
legislative
body
to
make
that
determination,
ultimately,
absolutely
not,
and
there's
never
been
an
ordinance
against
a
particular
method
of
protests
in
history,
which
is
not
going
to
be
used
against
the
poor
against
people
of
color
against
people
with
legitimate
concerns
both
for
their
lives
and
for
their
civil
liberties.
But
again
that
is
not
a
determination
that
this
body
can
or
should
make.
So
again,
I
encourage
people
to
vote
against
this
measure
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
AI
A
That's
another
excellent
right:
there's
the
timer
another
excellent
time
managed
public
comment
is
james
levitt.
Here.
A
John
joan
eastman.
AJ
Thank
you
very
much.
I
would
really
urge
the
boston
city
council
to
oppose
this
ordinance.
I
have
been
listening
with
great
interest,
and
I
have
to
take
exception
to
several
things
that
have
been
presented
here.
Please
take
into
account
the
purpose
of
these
protests,
which
is
to
oppose
government
overreach.
The
answer
to
government
overreach
is
not
more.
Government
overreach
was,
which
is
exactly
what
this
ordinance
is.
AJ
I
have
very
little
sympathy
for
somebody
who's,
claiming
that
she's
being
targeted
has
sergeant
shayna
canton,
not
been
targeted
for
standing
up
for
freedom
for
standing
up
against
unlawful
mandates
and
restrictions
in
the
city
of
boston
president
flynn
mentioned
he
wondered
what
the
cost
is
for
law
enforcement
at
these
protests.
I
wonder
what
the
cost
is
for
this
hearing
about
this
ordinance,
which
is
unlawful
and
custom,
tailored
and
extremely
entitled
and
privileged
on
her
behalf.
No
other
mayor
has
taken
actions
as
she
is
taking
no
other.
AJ
We
have
never
lived
in
times
like
these.
This
is
kind
of
like
the
wild
wild
west.
Wouldn't
time
and
money
be
better
spent
and
an
ordinance
on
how
to
bring
the
two
sides
together
to
discuss
the
issues
at
hand?
Why
are
people
being
denied
their
right?
They
get
louder
because
they're
being
not
being
heard
and
silencing
them
further.
Limiting
their
ability
to
be
heard
to
express
their
position
is
not
a
way
to
solve
the
problem.
It
adds
to
the
problem.
AJ
You
are
our
public
servants
what's
happening
here
on
all
levels
is
unlawful
and
that's
why
people
are
speaking
out
against
it
and
they're
not
being
heard.
We
need
to
bring
people
together
as
opposed
to
continuing
to
silence
them,
and
I
would
urge
you
all
to
to
oppose
this
unlawful
ordinance.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
john
next.
We
have,
let
me
see
here
where
we
are.
We
just
finished
with
joan
eastman
carolyn
malloy.
If
you
are
here.
A
I
see
actually
candace
if
you
can
promote
mauricio.
I
see
him
in
the
in
the
attendees
list.
A
Yeah,
so
we'll
do
them
one
at
a
time.
What
do
you
see
who
comes
before
rob?
Because
I
think
they've
already
popped
them
in
to
the
to
the
group's
assault.
A
Mr
burke
has
been
promoted.
Thank
you,
mr
burke.
The
the
floor
is
yours.
When
you
are
ready
to
begin.
U
Good
morning,
how
are
you
and
all
to
all
the
panelists?
I
want
to
correct
the
record
with
who
these
people
are.
I've
been
with
these
people
as
a
videographer
since
may
28th.
This
is
not
a
special
thing
for
mayor
wu.
These,
ladies,
are
moms
with
kids
they're,
not
political
people.
U
U
U
Let
me
quote
this:
he
delivers
one
of
his
finest
speeches,
a
plea
for
free
speech
in
boston
that's
162
years
ago,
and
in
less
than
a
hour,
maybe
more
than
100
days
wu
was
trying
to
silence
us
in
it.
He
boldly
declares
liberty
is
meaningless,
where
the
right
to
utter
once,
thoughts
and
opinions
have
ceased
to
exist.
U
Folks,
if
you're
listening
to
me,
if
these
are
your
wives,
you
cheer
for
them.
If
these
are
your
sisters,
you
would
cheer
for
them,
and
if
these
were
your
daughters,
you
would
hear
from
it's
about
the
freedom
of
speech
and
to
have
mere
wu.
Try
to
do
the
following
thing:
take
it
away
that
would
destroy
boston
because
it
is
the
cradle
of
liberty.
You
have
37
locations
of
historical
places
if
this
gets
out
that
she
is
anti-american.
U
That's
bad
news,
I'm
out
there
every
single
day,
and
I
challenge
any
city
counselor
to
say
these
things
are
bad
about
these.
I
have
the
video
and
if
I
can
prove
that,
that's
not
true,
you
should
all
resign,
and
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
you
know
free
speech
when
you
hear
it
have
a
wonderful
day.
Sir,
thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir,
is
mauricio
back.
AK
AK
She
wasn't
even
really
finished
talking
and
you
cut
her
off
yeah
two
minutes,
but
do
you
see
the
urgency
of
what
what
I'm
trying
to
say
we
need
to
speak?
We
need
to
be
at
your
face,
sir.
We
need
to
look
into
your
eyes
and
have
a
conversation
with
you
and
the
child
abuser
michelle
wu.
So
as
a
hispanic,
I
take
great
offense.
A
I'm
just
gonna
have
to
do
it
to
you
as
well,
because
just
to
be
clear,
there's
only
two
things:
I'm
asking
folks
to
do.
No
personal
attacks,
no
profanity
you're,
welcome
to
speak.
I
have
no
issue
with
speaking.
I
have
no
issue
with
frankly
anybody
expressing
their
opinions,
just
no
personal
tax,
no
profanity.
It's
all.
I've
asked
for.
A
Even
it's
not
even
my
rules,
it's
just
the
rules
that
we
have
because
we're
publicly
aired
so
mauricio.
That's
that's
just
what
it
is.
It's
not
you
know
I'm
not
trying
to
silence
anybody.
This
is
publicly
aired.
Folks
get
to
see
this,
so
the
only
thing
we
ask
for
is
no
profanity
and
no
personal
attacks.
The
rest
of
it
is
is
frankly,
okay,
whether
I
agree
with
it
or
not,
and
so
you
know
just
to
be
clear
on
what
that
is.
Is
zachary
herbert
here.
AC
Thank
you,
so
I
just
want
to
state
for
the
record
again
that
I
am
opposed
to
this
ordinance.
Obviously,
mayor
wu
is
the
one
who
has
filed
for
this
ordinance
and
it's
unfortunate
that
I
think
she's
filed
it
because
she
apparently
doesn't
want
to
face
her
constituents.
AC
She's
refused
to
engage
or
speak
with
constituents.
You
know
like
shanna,
catone,
repeatedly,
she's,
sort
of
avoided
them
and
just
refuses
to
engage
so
at
some
point,
constituents
have
to
figure
out
how
to
make
their
voices
heard.
I
personally
have
been
at
the
state
house
for
more
than
two
years
pretty
consistently
so
any
time
that
there's
some
sort
of
ordinance
being
proposed
to
where
there's
a
limitation
on
when
or
where
free
speech
can
happen.
I
mean
that
has
to
be
sort
of
a
signal
for
this
isn't
right.
AC
We
need
to
look
at
this.
There
can't
be
limitations
on
it
based
on
our
constitution
that
there's
there's
no
ordinance
that
could
potentially
be
put
into
place.
That
would
be
lawful.
That
would
allow
this
there's.
No
reason
why
mayor
wu
should
be
ignoring
constituents.
She
should
be
talking
with
them,
and
apparently
this
is
the
only
way
that
you
know
constituents
can
get
through
to
her.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
do
appreciate
some
of
the
counselors
comments
about
you
know
this
ordinance,
it's
not
content
or
group
neutral.
AC
That's
absolutely
unlawful
and
certainly
I
would
hope
that
there
would
be
a
lawsuit
coming
if
this
did
pass
through,
but
I
would
urge
all
the
counselors
to
really
look
at
this
and
see
how
it
negatively
affects
the
public.
Our
voices
need
to
be
heard.
AC
We
can't
be
shut
out
of
the
state
house
and
we
can't
be
ignored
on
the
streets
either
when
we're
shut
out
of
the
state
house.
So
I
would
urge
you
to
vote
no.
Thank
you.
A
Stephanie
and
just
so,
I
can
check
really
quickly
just
to
make
sure
we're
we're
still
on
live
streaming.
I
saw
that
there
was
a
complaint
a
little
bit
ago
that
the
live
stream
might
have
cut
out
as
one
confirmation
that
the
live
stream
is
still
going.
A
A
AL
Hi,
okay,
so
I
am
surprised
to
be,
I
guess
democracy
is
working,
so
I'm
surprised
to
be
in
agreement
with
some
of
the
folks
that
have
spoken.
My
main
concern
is
that
this
is
we're
taking
a
situation.
That's
happening
right
now
and
creating
an
ordinance
that
will
live
beyond
mayor
wu,
and
I
sympathize
like
I've
seen
people
have
sent
me
pictures
of
signs
that
have
been
there.
AL
I've
heard
people
talk
about
personal
attacks,
so
I
believe
that
that's
real,
but
I
am
concerned
that
black
and
brown
protesters
who
use
protests
to
to
voice
their
issues
will
also
be
targeted,
and
it
won't
be
fair.
I'm
concerned
that
the
noise
ordinances
haven't
been
used
yet
and
that
that
seems
like
a
potential
effective
measure
to
to
address
what's
happening
right
now.
I
I
certainly
am
somebody
who
has
used
protest.
AL
I
believe
in
the
first
amendment,
and
so
I
want,
I
would
strongly
suggest
that
this
be
looked
at
much
more
carefully
and
in
its
current
state.
It
just
feels
very
broad.
I
could
be
wrong,
but
it
looks
like
even
like.
If
you're
out
there
holding
signs
you,
you
could
probably
be
targeted
with
the
ordinance,
so
I,
and
if,
if
that's
the
case,
I
would
definitely
want
it
to
be
not
voted
for
be
voted
down,
and
that
can
be
the
end
of
my
comment.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Is
amelia
bye
there
and
just
again
just
a
reminder
for
attendees
who
would
like
to
testify?
If
you
do
not
have
your
name
written
out
the
way
in
which
you
signed
up
to
testify,
you
will
not
be
called
on,
so
no
one
name
only
is
no
just
your
initials.
A
We
need
the
name
you
signed
up
to
speak
on
hold
on
my
last
public
commenter
did
a
great
job
on
time
to
to
make
sure
that
you
have
your
name
fully
spelled
out
so
that
we
can
do
that
and
call
on
you
at
the
appropriate
time.
So
please
have
both
names
ready
to
go,
alex
stein.
I
A
Your
work,
it's
usually
hilarious.
Thank
you.
I
I
do.
Let
me
talk.
I
I
do
appreciate
you
next,
whoever
is
next
and
by
the
way,
if
you
haven't
seen
alex
stein,
he's
got
an
instagram
account.
He
does
public
commentary
I'll
commentary
all
over
the
country.
It's
it's
sometimes
quite
hilarious,
but
unfortunately
for
alex
stein.
I
have
seen
his
work
and
I
won't
be
featured
on
his
instagram
account
today.
A
Q
Yes,
it's
reef,
hi,
yes,
thank
you.
The
chair,
thank
you
to
all
the
state
councillors
for
their
privilege
to
testify
at
this
hearing.
I
just
want
to
put
a
headline
out,
and
it's
this
I
believe
in
public
protest.
I
protested
against
the
vietnam
war.
I
protested
against
building
a
nuclear
power
plant
which
we
lost.
I
protested
when
mayor
menina
wanted
to
close
the
fano
library
and
we
won.
Q
Q
A
I
I
think
we
she's
suffering
from
a
bad
connection.
We
can
try
and
bring
her
back
so
that
she
can
say
whatever
it
was.
She
was
trying
to
say.
I
see
kevin
mackey
is
here.
AN
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
hey
my
name
is
kevin
mackey
I've
taken
a
look
at
this
proposed
ordinance
and,
quite
simply,
this
is
a
sheep
and
wolf's
clothing
here.
This
is
purporting
to
be
defensive
and
protective
of
people's
safety
in
their
home
as
far
as
targeted
protests,
but
this
is
actually
an
attack.
It's
a
targeted
deprivation,
deprivation
of
rights
of
the
protesters.
AN
AN
AN
AN
The
other
thing
is
there's
a
very
simple
answer
to
this
dilemma.
Here,
there's
an
invention
called
earplugs
that
people
can
they're
little
foam
things
that
you
can
roll
up
and
put
in
your
ears
and
that's
the
adult
way
to
handle
it
and
not
trying
to
pass
legislation
that
that
robs
people
of
their
rights
and
just
starting
the
precedent
with
something
like
this
is
a
very
slippery
slope.
AN
A
A
A
Hello,
hi
mcgee.
AO
Hi
there
good
afternoon,
I
would
like
to
begin
my
testimony
by
professing
my
faith
in
jesus
christ
and
by
asking
him
to
bless
my
words
and
all
who
hear
them
before
I
offer
my
position
on
mayor
wu's
proposed
ordinance
regarding
targeted
residential
picketing.
I
would
like
to
say
that
this
hearing
should
absolutely
be
held
in
person.
AO
There
are
many
ways
in
which
virtual
hearings
restrict
full
participation
and
even
violate
citizens
right
to
free
speech.
We've
seen
evidence
of
this
this
morning
already
from
glitchy
technology
to
restrictive
participant
limits
and
muting
virtual
meetings
will
never
offer
the
freedom
of
expression
that
in-person
meetings
do
true.
Democracy
is
often
organic,
independent
upon
the
interaction
among
people
sharing
physical
space.
W
AO
Their
fullness
and
engaging
in
the
innately
intangible
elements
of
humanity
that
screens
will
never
replicate,
as
with
virtual
hearings,
mayor
wu's
proposed
ordinance
regarding
targeted
residential
picketing
is
restrictive
to
free
speech
and
violates
citizens.
First,
amendment
right
mayor
wu
is
a
public
figure
which
subjects
her
to
the
lawfully
expressed
opinions
and
voices
of
the
public.
AO
The
mere
proposal
of
this
ordinance
reveals
an
abuse
of
power
on
mayor
wu's
part.
It
is
exceedingly
and
transparently
self-serving.
There
will
always
be
emotional
and
subjective
angles.
One
can
cite
to
justify
such
restrictions,
neighbors
veterans,
children,
etc.
However,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
americans
right
to
free
speech
must
be
protected
at
all
costs.
AO
A
I
and
just
a
reminder
for
folks:
if
you
have
more
to
say,
then
your
two
minutes
allows
please
do
email
it
and
we
will
put
it
on
the
record.
Thank
you
for
everybody,
who's
being
patient
with
their
chance
to
share
I'm
trying
to
make
sure
we
stick
to
two
minutes
so
that
we
can
get
through
everybody.
There's
still
a
considerably
long
list
of
folks
waiting
to
speak,
laurie,
radwin.
AG
AM
Hi
good
morning
good
afternoon,
thank
you
councilor
royal
and
the
other
counselors
for
being
here.
I
also
want
to
thank
christine
o'donnell
and
candice
morales.
This
must
be
quite
the
day
at
work
for
them.
I
want
to
respond
to
a
previous
testimony
about
decibels.
The
neighbors
have
decibel
meters
and
in
fact
the
noise
ordinance
is
being
violated
and
people
called
311
a
number
of
times.
I
was
a
little
surprised
by
the
report
of
the
number
of
calls.
AM
We
were
also
instructed
at
a
a
community
meeting
to
call
the
police
and
let
them
know
about
our
the
complaint
of
the
noise,
so
their
account
of
the
calls
would
be
particularly
informative.
There.
Q
AM
If
it
were
equally
implemented,
I
wonder
about
the
necessity
of
this
ordinance
and
so
I'm
going
to
press
for
an
equal
enforcement
of
the
noise
ordinance
for
anybody
who
is
making
that
kind
of
noise,
and
that
is
the
end
of
my
testimony.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
It's
only
happened
twice
so
far,
so
we're
good
on
time
that
thank
you,
miss
radwin
for
for
staying
within
time,
so
that
we
can
give
folks
other
other
folks
a
chance
to
speak.
Who
is
next
on
the
list.
A
A
Q
Okay
thanks
so
much
thanks
so
much
for
coming
back
to
me.
I
don't
know
why
my
feet
cut
out,
but
it
did.
I
actually
was
just
about
finished.
I
just
want
to
I'll
just
say
quickly
again,
I
believe
in
public
protest,
but
anytime,
a
child
asks
a
mother.
You
know,
do
you
know
it's
hitler's
birthday
today
too,
that's
not
public
protest.
That
is
abuse,
and
I
agree
with
the
ordinance
I
urge
city
councilors
to
pass
it,
knowing
that
I
believe
in
public
protest
and
I
believe
in
making
differences
between
what
is
and
what
isn't.
AP
Sir,
I
appreciate
it
greatly.
I
think
everyone
for
their
time
and
energy
they're
putting
into
this.
I
just
want
to
hit
on
a
couple
things,
because
I
think
it's
very
detrimental
to
what
everyone's
saying
here
on
the
reason
for
daca
312
comes
from
a
byproduct
of
policy,
and
I
have
a
great
issue
that
many
of
the
counselors
have
not
even
brought
up
why
this
bill
is
being
presented
today.
AP
AP
AP
AP
So
we
have
evidence
on
our
side
so
to
try
to
take
more
freedom
away
from
the
people
is
going
to
be
very
detrimental
and
everyone
that's
listening
and
in
tune
with
this
they're
going
to
remember
who
voted
for
what
they're
going
to
be
mindful,
and
if
you
think
this
won't
come
back
to
the
council
at
some
point
it's
going
to
it
really
will
so
it
all
comes
around
you
reap
what
you
sow,
I'm
in
leadership
and
when
you're
in
leadership,
you're,
open
to
and
I'll
be
really
quick
with
this.
AP
You
have
to
be
open
for
criticism
and
if
you
can't
take
the
criticism
you
shouldn't
be
in
leadership,
and
so
let
me
encourage
you
just
keep
the
keep
everything
in
context.
Take
criticism,
talk
with
the
people
and
maybe
talking
with
the
people,
would
alleviate
the
problem.
Thank.
A
AQ
Won't
take
too
much
time
I
want
to.
Let
people
know
that
mayor
wu
is
not
the
only
politician
in
massachusetts
who
wants
to
put
forth
something
like
this.
Take
a
look
at
bill,
hd
4583.
AQ
This
was
presented
by
representative
stephen
s.
Howitt
he's
a
a
republican
out
of
sea
conch.
He
actually
wants
to
limit
people's
ability
to
protest
at
a
politician's
house.
They
have
to
stay
a
hundred
yards
away,
so
this
is
not
just
a
mere
wu
issue.
This
is
actually
something
else
that
is
coming
down.
The
pike
so
pay
attention
to
that
two
more
things.
This
is
tyranny,
and
this
is
communism
and
no
justice,
no
peace.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
I
I
can't
who
is
next
on
the
list
that
the
list
keeps
growing.
I
appreciate
that
folks
are
signing
up
to
speak
and
I
appreciate
that
folks
are
being
patient.
A
A
Okay
looks
like
we've
reached
the
end
of
our
public
comment
period
with
folks
who
are
actually
here.
Thank
you,
everybody
for
being
here
for
listening
throughout
this
process.
Look
forward
to
hearing
folks
as
this
goes
forward.
This
will
be
going
to
a
working
session
and
not
be.
AA
A
For
a
vote
this
week,
I
look
forward
to
everybody
for
being
here
who
is
here
working
on
this
with
us
together.
Thank
you,
everybody,
yeah,
with
that.
This
meeting
is
adjourned.