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Docket #0192 - Hearing regarding using planning and land-use tools for public good.
Docket #0314 - re: An order beginning the process of sunsetting urban renewal in the City of Boston until December 31, 2022
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A
A
We
will
take
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
this
hearing.
If
you
wish
to
testify
via
video
conference,
you
can
please
email,
cora,
c-o-r-a,
dot,
montran
m-o-n-t-r-o-n-d
at
boston.gov,
for
the
link
when
you
are
called,
please
state
your
name
and
affiliate
affiliation
or
residence
and
limit
your
comments
to
no
more
than
two
minutes,
and
you
also
may
submit
written
testimony.
A
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket
zero
one
nine
two
in
order
for
hearing
grounding
use
using
planning
and
land
use
tools
and
we
kind
of
merged
it
together
with
another.
With
another
docket
zero,
three
one,
four
and
porter
beginning
the
process
of
sun
setting
urban
renewal
in
the
city
of
boston
until
well.
This
says
december
31st
2022
that
may
change,
but
we'll
talk
about
that
here
today
without
further
ado,
we'll
turn
it
over
to
our
first
panel,
which
is
made
up
of
ppta
people.
A
B
A
B
Thank
you,
councilman
for
co-sponsoring
the
parents.
I
would
introduce
myself
again
I'm
devon
cork,
director
of
real
estate
for
the
vpda,
introduce
my
colleagues
quickly:
heather
campesano,
our
chief
of
staff,
eileen
brophy,
our
general
counsel
and
chris
fraim,
our
urban
middle
manager,
who
you'll
hear
from
shortly
and
we're
very
eager
to
be
before
you
today
to
talk
about
the
future
of
urban
renewal
in
boston.
B
We
believe
it's
really
important
to
begin
any
discussion
of
urban
renewal
by
acknowledging
that
the
irresponsible
use
of
this
tool
has
done
harm
and
damage
to
communities
both
here
in
boston
and
across
the
country.
The
destruction
of
entire
neighborhood,
the
west
end
is
a
permanent
stain
on
the
legacy
of
a
renewal
in
boston
and
and
of
our
decision-making.
B
The
displacement
of
thousands
of
families
from
their
homes
is
a
tragic
mistake,
and
while
it
would
never
happen
again,
it
can
never
be
undone.
In
addition,
urban
renewal
has
a
history
of
being
closely
associated
with
systemically
racist
and
socially
unjust
practices
of
the
past.
In
many
cases,
it
was
closely
geographically
tied
to
racist,
redlining
and
exclusionary
housing
practices.
B
It
is
similar
in
practice
to
the
unjust
highway
takings
of
the
60s
and
70s,
and
it
has
in
too
many
cases
yielded
vacant
property
which
has
sat
fallow
for
too
long
as
the
urban
renewal
agency
for
the
city.
The
staff
at
the
vpda
are
very
aware
of
this
legacy
of
harms
and
are
deeply
committed
to
bringing
a
social
equity
lens
to
our
work
as
an
agency
going
forward,
and
that
said,
the
history
of
urban
renewal
is
complex
and
also
has
resulted
in
benefits
for
the
people
of
boston,
new
schools
and
libraries.
B
One
in
five
housing
units
in
our
city
is
an
income
restricted,
affordable
housing
unit
and
while
that
might
not
be
enough
to
meet
the
current
needs
of
our
housing
crisis,
it
is
better
than
almost
any
other
community
in
the
country
with
20
of
our
housing
stock
is
affordable,
we're
better
than
new
york.
Seattle,
san
francisco
or
any
other
high-cost
city
in
our
analysis
of
urban
renewal,
we've
identified
nearly
10
000
units
of
affordable
housing
built
on
herb,
renewal
properties.
B
B
So
today
we
are
before
you
with
a
simple
request,
but
one
that
is
deeply
tied
to
a
complex
history.
The
agency
has
been
working
for
the
past
six
years
on
sunsetting
urban
renewal.
There
are
currently
14
urban
renewal
districts
across
boston
that
are
expiring
on
april
22nd
of
this
year.
So
if
the
council
takes
no
action,
all
14
urban
renewal
districts
will
expire
next
month.
My
colleague
chris
will
go
over
this
in
detail.
B
In
a
moment,
but
in
2020
we
submitted
a
comprehensive
action
plan
to
dhcd
this
plan
called
for
the
sun
setting
of
four
urban
rural
district
renewal
plan
areas.
Next
month,
the
remaining
10
were
set
to
expire
on
a
staggered
basis,
with
the
majority
expiring
by
2026
and
they're
remaining
expiring
by
2030..
B
So
well
so,
while
the
agency
has
long
been
promoting
the
sun
setting
of
urban
renewal,
the
wu
administration
would
like
us
to
examine
the
timeline
for
this
plan.
In
light
of
today's
boston
and
our
collective
vision
for
the
future,
we
are
here
to
recommend
that
we
allow
five
urban
renewal
districts
areas
to
expire
next
month.
This
includes
the
four
urban
renewal
areas
that
we
originally
targeted
for
a
2022
termination
several
years
ago,
plus
the
addition
of
the
brunswick
king
urban
renewal
area
in
dorchester,
which
we
believe
will
not
benefit
from
a
renewal
going
forward.
B
B
Ultimately,
as
mayor
wu
said
to
this
council
in
the
request
for
this
hearing,
the
future
of
river
renewal
and
boston
must
be
built
upon
transparency
and
accountability
to
community
members.
We,
we
must
commit
to
putting
equity
at
the
forefront
of
planning
and
development
decisions,
and
we
must
see
urban
renewal
through
this
lens.
B
A
A
Yeah,
so
we're
going
to
go
to
opening
statements
from
counselors
the
sponsor
and
the
co-sponsor
first
and
then
go
around
the
room.
I
apologize
for
that
devin,
but
that
was
a
good
that
was
good
I'll,
be
happy
to
do
it
all
again,
if
you
like,
and
no
that's
okay,
thank
you
and
and
with
that
kenzie.
Your
opening
statement,
please.
Oh
and
we've
also
been
joined
by
council
warrell.
C
Thank
you
so
much
to
the
chair
and
thank
you
to
the
bpda
for
being
here
and
I'm
glad
that
there's
an
opportunity
today
for
us
to
combine
this
here
at
this
order
from
the
mayor
with
a
hearing
order
that
counselor
louis
jen
and
I
had
previously
filed.
This
is
a
topic
that
I
care
quite
a
lot
about
in
relationship
to
devin's
remarks.
C
I
am
the
counselor
for
the
west
end,
which
has
become
a
national
and
frankly
international
story
of
the
perils
of
urban
renewal
and
of
the
kind
of
like
hubris
that
can
that
can
lead
to
destroying
a
community
and-
and
still
I
hear
all
the
time
from
constituents
who
have
both
constituents
who
have
managed
to
stay
in
boston
or
return
to
boston
and
from
folks
who
grew
up
in
the
west
end,
but
who
lost
a
home
that
they
never
got
back.
And
so
you
know
as
a
historian
myself.
C
And
we
can
do
things,
but
also
in
some
cases.
There
are
areas
that
may
not
be
held
by
the
public,
but
where
the
public
has
a
vital
interest
and
a
few
a
few
examples
of
this
type
of
thing
is
places
where
we
could
imagine
building
social
housing
on
public
land,
but
also
as
we
face
our
climate
crisis
places
where
we
might
need
to
assemble
fringes.
C
Along
the
harbor,
in
order
to
protect
our
city,
you
know
thinking
about
opportunities
to
transfer
land
into
land
trusts,
as
was
was
once
famously
done
by
the
bpda
with
urban
renewal
powers,
something
that
I'll
ask
about
later
in
this
hearing.
So
for
me,
there's
a
I'm
coming
with
a
couple
of
sets
of
questions
today
and
I'm
grateful
to
the
bpda
for
sending
over
a
response
a
fairly
thick
response
to
a
fairly
extensive
set
of
questions
I
sent
over
before
the
hearing.
Counselors.
C
Have
that-
and
I
know
we'll
get
more
into
all
the
details
of
that.
I
think
what
what
I'm
interested
in
is
both
making
sure
that
we
don't
lose
anything
as
we
sunset
these
districts,
particularly
affordable
housing
restrictions,
but
really
anywhere
that
we
manage
to
snag
something
important
for
the
public
good
because
it
would
be,
it
would
be
a
double
harm
if
we
both
hurt
families
and
communities
when
we
did
clearances
decades
ago
in
these
areas,
and
then
the
public.
D
C
That
we
did
get
whether
they're
parks
or
affordable
housing,
or
whatever
we
allowed
the
restrictions
to
expire.
So
it's
very
important
to
me
that
we
have
a
considered
plan
on
that
front
and
then,
secondly,
and
I'm
really
interested
in
in
how
we
think
about
using
these
land
use
tools
robustly
for
the
public
interest.
And
so
you
know,
I
will
frame
some
questions
in
that
direction
to
the
bpda
today.
C
C
For
for
a
significant
public
good
and
think
about
how
we
expand
that,
so
those
are
those
are
really
my
hopes
I
will,
since
the
chair
is
in
here,
to
tell
me
I've
used
my
time
I
will
just
temporarily
add
on
that
on
the
particular
order
from
the
mayor
in
front
of
us.
I
have
two
very
specific
issues
I
want
to
raise.
C
I
mean,
even
this
a
month
being
today
a
month
out
from
the
deadline
is,
is
a
little
close
for
comfort.
So
I
I
do
hope,
mr
chair,
that
we'll
discuss
an
extension
of
that
a
little
bit
today.
Still
keeping
it
under
a
year
and
then
the
other
thing
is
just
I've
heard
from
a
number
of
nearby
constituents,
some
concern
about
the
park
plaza
plan
and
we
may
be
pushing
to
shift
that
over
into
the
longer
consideration,
but
it's
technically
in
councillor
flynn's
district
and
I'm
sure
we'll
have
further
discussion.
E
Thank
you
chair
for
holding
this
hearing.
You
look
even
though
you
said
you
had
three
year,
hiatus
you're
doing
a
good
job.
I
also
want
to
thank
kenzie
for
counselor
block
for
allowing
me
to
join
her
on
this
docket
number.
Zero.
One,
nine
two
so
I'll
say
my
first
job
here
in
the
city
of
boston
was
at
the
age
of
14,
working
as
a
tour
guide
for
an
organization
called
multicultural
youtubers.
E
What's
now
when
I
would
walk
around
the
south
and
in
lower
roxbury
and
give
folks
the
people-centered
history
of
the
city
of
boston
and
how
people
came
together
to
stop
highways,
you
know,
southwest
quarter
park
was
planned
to
be
a
highway.
I
would
tell
folks
about
the
work
of
mel
king,
who
sometimes
protested
inside
the
office
of
bra,
to
prevent
to
prevent
the
displacement
of
folks,
and
so,
as
was
has
been
alluded
to.
E
Urban
renewal
has
a
very
checkered
history
in
our
city,
but
I'm
excited
to
think
about
ways
that
we
can
use.
As
council
box
said,
public
land
for
public
good,
our
public
land
and
public
finance
are
powerful
tools,
so
powerful,
in
fact,
that
they
carry
systemic
change
with
them.
They
have
the
potential
to
change,
not
only
the
physical
landscape
but
the
broader
way
we
interact
with
government.
E
We
can
regulate
for
community
land
trust
using
dsni's,
deadly
neighbors,
community
and
trust
model
planning
for
more
civic
and
green
spaces
through
deed
restrictions
and
ground
leases.
Urban
rule
was
premised
on
the
value
of
large-scale
long-term
advancement.
Ensuring
long-term
values
of
public
spaces
are
properly
valued.
E
Carolyn
crockett
has
a
great
book
people
before
highway
she's
the
one
who
founded
my
town,
my
first
job,
where
she
talks
about
the
ability
of
us
to
really
use
these
tools
in
a
community
driven
way
to
make
sure
that
public
land
is
being
responsive
to
the
needs
of
community
members.
These
long-term
public
profits
could
be
better
schools
and
more
affordable
housing.
F
Yeah
and
obviously
thank
you
to
the
the
bra
doing
business
as
the
bpda
that
still
hasn't
been
fixed
by
the
way
we
need
to
have
that
run
through
the
council
for
that,
but
nonetheless,
I
want
to
thank
devon
quirk
chris
breen,
eileen,
brophy
and
heather
campazon
for
your
work
on
this.
I
know
that
you
guys
have
been
analyzing
all
of
these
urban
renewal
plans
on
the
council.
I
have
the
most
experience
in
this
space
having
extended
and
sunset
a
number
of
them
over
the
years.
F
So
I
know
it's
not
a
new
concept.
We
last
dealt
with
this
probably
about
six
years
ago,
and
it's
sunsetting
as
it
pertains
to
these
particular
items.
Sunsetting
those
areas
have
always
been
part
of
the
discussion
and
part
of
the
plan.
I
will
say
that,
and
just
really
more
for
my
colleagues
edification.
F
F
You
know
the
good,
the
bad
and
the
ugly,
but
we
saw
how
important
it
was
with
the
north
end
treasure
with
that
nursing
home
that
and
that
community
was
under
siege
and
working
closely
with
the
community
leaders,
families
that
had
loved
ones
in
the
nursing
home
and
also
our
district
colleague,
council,
lydia
edwards
that
we
were
able
to
because
of
those
tools.
We
were
able
to
save
that
from
from
demolition.
F
Each
one
of
them
is
a
little
bit
different,
but
being
able
to
flush
through
that.
So
hopefully,
that
through
the
chair,
this
hearing
we'll
get
into
maybe
be
able
to
dive
into
some
of
those
nuances.
But
I
think
it's
important
that
folks
explain
kind
of
how
if
we
don't
act
on
the
sunset,
we
lose
the
ability
on
the
others,
and
I
think
that
there
are
a
couple
that
are
maybe
in
midstream
or
have
the
ability
to
do
some
great
things
in
in
certain
districts.
F
G
G
So
again,
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
conversation,
but
I
want
to
make
it
very
clear
that
this
cannot
have
any
negative
impact
on
any
of
my
constituents
at
all,
especially
our
immigrant
residents.
In
fact,
it
has
to
improve
their
life,
their
life
and
address
quality
of
life
issues
as
well.
So
thank
you
to
the
bpda
team
and
thank
you
to
you.
Council
baker
as
well.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I'm
I'm
actually
really
excited
for
this
meet
this
hearing
and
this
process.
So
obviously
it's
a
very
emotional
one
and
a
very
personal
one,
and
I
think
that
we
can't
necessarily
vote
or
take
a
position
on
something
that
we
don't
understand,
and
I
believe
that
so
thus
far,
the
community
has
expressed
time
and
time
again
that
there
should
be
a
moratorium.
There
should
be
a
slowdown
of
process
of
some
sort
to
understand
the
long-term
concept.
What
is
the
long-term
concept
and
what?
How
can
the
city
be
pda?
H
H
So
I
wonder,
then
what
is
missing
and
then,
if,
if
the
community
process
and
all
that
is
supposed
to
support
improving
this
is
not
working
then
what's
the
problem,
is
it
performative?
Is
it
just
so
we
can
say
that
we
involve
the
community.
We
care,
we
really
care
all
the
beautiful
political
jargons
that
we
can
use,
couldn't
justify
what
we've
done
to
black
and
brown
communities.
H
So
I
really
I'm
really
excited,
because
I
think
that
when
there's
conflict
there's
an
opportunity
for
change-
and
I
I
pray-
and
I
hope
that
the
change
is
going
to
be
a
positive
one,
but
I
will
stand
firmly
on
looking
at
this
with
a
lens
of
let's
slow
it
down.
If
we
must
so
that
we
don't
have
to
disproportionately
impact
people
the
way
we
have
thank
you.
D
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
to
council
bach
and
council
louis
jen
for
sponsoring
this.
This
this
herring
in
our
city
faces
many,
and
I'm
thank
you
for
the
bpda
for
for
being
present
and
also
having
conversations
about
the
new
renewal
process
with
me
and
my
staff,
our
city
faces.
You
know
many
urgent
crises
from
climate
to
housing,
affordability
that
requires
bold,
decisive
action
from
our
city.
That
includes
using
all
tools
that
are
at
our
disposal
to
create
long-term
affordability
and
address
community
needs,
including
green
spaces,
urban
farms
and
parks.
D
A
We're
waiting
I'm
going
to
read
this
into
the
record.
This
is
from
counselor
julia
mahia,
dear
mr
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
on
planning
development
transportation.
I'm
writing
to
inform
you
of
my
absence
of
from
today's
hearing
on
the
committee
planning
and
development
and
transportation
regarding
dockets
zero.
Three
one
four
and
zero
one,
nine
two:
a
doc:
a
hearing
on
docket
zero,
one,
nine
two
order
regarding
using
planning
and
land
use
tools
for
public
good
in
docket
zero.
Three
one:
four.
A
In
order
beginning
the
process
of
sun
setting
urban
renewal
in
the
city
of
boston
until
december
31st
22,
due
to
a
previously
scheduled
engagement,
I
am
not
able
to
attend.
Someone
from
my
office
will
review
the
conversations
held
today
and
follow
up
with
relevant
questions,
and
there
are
some
questions
here,
but
I'll
let
her
handle
those.
Thank
you.
Chris.
I
I
I
So
basically,
this
slide
is
a
recap
of
the
work.
That's
done
since
the
last
extension
of
urbernol
in
2016..
The
bulk
of
that
work
is
encapsulated
in
the
boston
city
council's
urban
renewal
action
plan.
You
can
see
that
in
the
upper
left
hand
corner
the
action
plan
is
a
request
for
the
bpda
to
take
on
a
series
of
transparency
measures,
procedural
changes
and
document
and
data
collection
tests.
I
Those
tasks
included
the
creation
of
an
urban
renewal
document
center.
That's
now
publicly
available
on
our
website
and
that
document
center
has
for
public
consumption.
You
can
download
any
plan
or
burn
no
plan.
Any
modification
from
that
plan
in
any
map
of
the
area
to
just
have
the
average
person
sort
of
who
may
not
know
anything
about
urban
other
than
the
west
end.
Just
allow
them
to
sort
of
read
through
that
information,
because
boston
is
so
much
more
than
just
the
west
end
experience.
I
We
also
updated
our
progress
across
six
city
council
check-ins.
Over
the
years
we
completed
a
land
disposition
agreement
inventory
and
we
also
did
a
bpda
owned
property
inventory
and
we
conducted
over
20
community
meetings,
specifically
regarding
urban
renewal,
in
which
we
talked
about
all
those
things
we
talked
about
the
history
of
urberno.
We
talked
about
the
tools
and
what
they
meant
and
we
talked
about
land
disposition
agreements
where
they
were
and
how
they
affected
individual
parcels
in
individual
plant
areas.
I
I
I
Lastly,
we
found
dozens
of
public
facilities
that
were
created
with
urban
renewal
tools,
just
like
charlestown,
high
school
and
its
associated
play
fields.
We
also
found
dozens
and
dozens
of
libraries,
police
and
fire
stations,
community,
centers
and
schools
all
related
to
urban
renewal
on
urban
renewal
parcels
and
urban
renewal
plan
areas,
particularly
these
14
up
for
debate.
I
This
initial
report
in
2019
that
was
sent
to
dhcd
recommended
the
potential
sunsetting
of
the
five
urban
renewal
areas.
Before
you
today,
the
2021
report,
the
follow-up
report
recommended
four
of
the
five,
but
over
the
past
year
we've
looked
at
brunswick
king,
that
fifth
land
area
parcel
and
we've
now
added
it
back
into
the
category
of
potentially
being
sunset.
I
Dhc's
dhcd
and
the
council
at
the
time
wanted
a
timeline
to
sunset
these
parcels,
and
we
felt
like
with
the
two
letters
we
did:
our
jobs.
We
selected
plant
areas
that
could
sunset
and
we
selected
other
plant
areas
that
maybe
need
just
a
little
bit
more
time
to
eventually
sunset
and
each
of
them
have
their
own
specific
reason
why
they
need
extra
time.
I
How
did
we
even
choose
the
five?
Well,
the
recommendation
for
sunset
formula
kind
of
goes
like
this.
Then.
First,
we
looked
at
the
number
of
urban
rural
related
actions
taken
since
2016
in
this
planned
area.
Is
this
an
active
area?
Is
it
not?
If
you're
not
taking
a
lot
of
actions,
it's
probably
not
an
active
area,
then
we
looked
at
the
planning
context
of
each
neighborhood.
I
I
Lastly,
we
looked
at
the
development
status
of
each
parcel
that
we
owned.
We
looked
at
those
parcels
when
we
tried
to
figure
out.
Is
it
difficult
to
develop
this
parcel,
or
can
we
do
it
without
having
to
use
our
urban
renault
tools
and
we
sort
of
took
that
formula
and
mixed
it
into
a
pot
and
came
out
with
an
answer,
and
the
answer
is:
was
those
five
areas
you
see
before
you
next
slide.
I
One
more
slide.
Sorry,
that's
for
the
stuff
I
was
talking
about
and
then
he's
here
are
the
five
areas
that
we
have
now
suggested
and
now
propose
could
potentially
sunset
in
april.
They
are
central
business
district,
boylston,
essex,
downtown
school
franklin,
downtown
park,
plaza
downtown
kitridge
square
roxbury
brunswick
king
dorchester
next
slide.
I
Using
our
tools
in
that
small
area,
because
there's
a
number
of
easements
below
the
mbta
was,
you
know,
doing
new
lines,
train
lines
in
the
late
60s,
so
we
acquired
the
parcel
and
helped
sort
of
move
that
project
forward
and
that
for
that
building
is
now
restricted
to
you
know
typical
office
space
uses
that
you
see
in
there
and
commercial
uses
that
you
see
in
there
and
the
mbta
built
their
subway,
and
that
was
kind
of
it
next
slide
the
analysis
of
the
area
we
looked
at.
How
many
properties
do
we
own?
I
We
own,
no
properties
in
boylston,
essex?
How
many
restrictions
do
we
have?
We
have
one
lda
and
that
covers
one
assessing
parcel.
How
many
actions
did
we
take
in
six
years?
We
took
one
action
and
that
one
action
was
to
debate
on
whether
or
not
we
should
sunset
this
area,
the
community
feedback.
When
I
went
out
and
had
a
meeting.
Basically,
we,
the
bpda
recommended
to
the
community,
gave
them
advance
notice
that
this
could
be
an
area
that
we
would
suggest
to
sunset
next
slide:
we're
going
to
move
on
to
school
franklin.
I
If
you
don't
know
where
school
franklin
is
it's
on
school
street
in
franklin
street.
But
if
you
don't
know
where
that
is
it's
near
old
city
hall,
and
that's
also,
an
urban
renewal
parcel
that
most
people
don't
realize,
because
it
because
it's
old,
also
urban,
renewal,
parcels
and
projects
out
there
would
be
the
irish
famine
memorial,
the
community
cultural
space
shoppers
park,
the
recently
redesigned
sort
of
public
open
space
is
an
urban
no
parcel,
and
the
parcels
that
have
ldas
would
be,
I
believe,
it's
tj,
maxx
tj
maxx.
J
I
I
I
believe,
and
it
still
exists
today
that
parcel
we
own
only
a
small
piece
of
it.
Again.
It's
almost
similar
to
boylston
essex,
where
the
parcel
that
we
controlled,
that
we
put
the
lda
on
is
kind
of
on
the
old
bank
side
and
it's
developed
and
that's
just
kind
of
where
we're
at
with
it
our
analysis
of
school
franklin,
we
own
two
parcels
left
old
city
hall,
irish
famine,
totally
good.
I
We
have
two
ldas
that
covers
four
ids.
I
know
that
might
not
make
sense,
but
the
two
ldas
can
cover
four
assessing
ids,
because
you
know
those
those
assessing
ids
are
built
for
something
and
they're
owned
by
usually
mutual
people,
and
so
it's
one
ld
that
covers
this
one,
one
ld
that
covers
that
and
the
number
of
actions
taken
again
only
two
actions
taken:
the
community
feedback.
When
I
went
out
there,
they
did
not
express
a
strong
preference
to
either
sunset
or
renew
at
least
the
second
time,
the
first
time
they
were
interested
in.
I
I
It's
a
well
high
occupancy,
I
believe
so
park
plaza
in
the
map
below
you,
see
all
the
properties
that
the
bpda
then
bra,
acquired
in
blue
and
developed
for
a
specific
reason
in
hand
with
the
neighborhood
council
and
of
the
area
in
red.
You'll
see
the
property
we
still
own
and
we
still
take
pride
in
owning
it.
I
I
We
have
six
ldas
and
that
cuts
across
multiple
assessing
ids,
because
I
know
there's
lots
of
condo
owners
in
the
park,
plaza
area
and
some
of
the
larger
buildings.
But
there
are
six
lda
buildings
that
control
things
like
height
fa,
far
use
design
the
actions
taken.
We've
only
taken
two
actions
on
park
plaza
in
six
years,
which
that's
not
too
many.
I
I
I
I
You
might
know
about
children's
park,
which
is
a
city
of
boston
park,
seen
in
the
photo
that
was
originally
an
urban
renault
parcel.
You
might
know
about
ceylon
park,
of
which
many
parcels
were
originally
urban
or
parcels
taken
from,
I
believe
foreclosed
homes
in
the
area.
You
might
know
about
mlk
playground,
and
you
might
know
about
some
residential
openside
yards
where
people
sort
of
park
their
car
or
they
sit
out
with
their
family
and
have
picnics
along
along
their
home.
I
Next
slide,
so
that
analysis
was
a
little
different.
We
looked
at
how
many
properties
we
own,
and
this
was
a
really
big,
important
part
of
it.
For
me
and
us
we
saw
that
we
owned
two
parcels
and
the
community
was
very
excited
about
potentially
using
those
two
parcels
to
build
something:
that's
great
for
a
community
good,
the
restrictions.
We
again,
we
had
six
assessing
ids
that
had
six
ldas
they're,
mostly
open
space
restrictions.
I
I
There
are
not
only
just
renovated
homes,
there
are
new
homes
for
low
and
moderate
income.
Folks,
like
the
highland
park
estates
too,
but
predominantly
you
have
lots
of
rehabilitation
projects
on
parcels,
8
and
parcel
8a,
as
well
as
a
number
of
community
gardens
along
highland
street
and
then
another
one
along
cedar
street.
I
Basically,
for
this
one
we
own
three
parcels.
I
wait
to
get
to
this
on
this
one.
We
next
slide,
we
own
three
parcels.
The
restrictions
are
28
land
disposition,
agreement,
restrictions
over
83,
individual
assessing
parcels.
A
lot
of
those
are
sort
of
tight
together
buildings
that
that
cover
one
lda,
we've
taken
six
actions
since
2016,
so
not
a
significant
amount.
I
Those
are
just
the
five
there's
a
lot
more
left.
There's
nine
plan
areas
left
and
this
is
when
everything
gets
confusing.
We
have
campus
high
school
in
roxbury.
We
have
charlestown,
we
have
downtown
waterfront,
faneuil
hall,
you
might
know
it
as
the
north
end.
We
have
fenway,
we
have
government
center
where
we
live
right.
Now
we
have
south
cove,
you
might
know
it
as
chinatown.
I
And
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
to
give
you
an
up
close,
look
at
those
areas
and
see
all
of
the
complications
and
all
the
land
use
restrictions
on
those.
Basically,
all
the
different
butterfly
colors
you
see
there
on
those
parcels
are
all
there
were
no
parcels
that
all
have
individual
restrictions,
so
in
those
areas
campus
high
school
to
the
left,
charlestown
to
the
upper
middle,
downtown
waterfront
to
your
right,
fenway
down
below
to
the
left
government
center
center
bottom
and
south
cove
right
bottom,
then
you
go
into
the
bigger
ones.
I
You
have
the
south
end.
You
start
on
the
south,
then
left
to
right
lots
of
restrictions,
lots
of
affordability,
restrictions
there
and
you
know
south
station
lots
of
questions
there
about
the
south
station
air
rights
projects,
potential
climate,
resiliency
issues
and
then
to
your
far
right.
You
have
washington
park,
an
area
that
still
maintains
a
lot
of
bpda-owned
parcels
and
properties
that
could
be
developed
for
community
goods
that
I
know
devin's
working
really
hard
on
next
slide.
This
is
kind
of
our
final
slide,
but
we
do
have
others
if
people
have
in-depth
questions.
I
If
that
works
out.
Okay,
during
the
longer
extension,
we
would
love
to
discuss
and
determine
appropriate
timelines
for
sunsetting
remaining
herbal
plant
areas
and
to
develop
a
plan
to
consider
the
continued
protections
provided
by
these
land
disposition
agreements
that
are
very
important
to
the
electeds
and
very
important
to
the
folks
that
live
in
the
neighborhood
and
that's
kind
of
next
slide.
That's
all
I
have
for
this
part
of
the
presentation,
if
you
guys
want
to
ask
questions.
Thank.
A
A
I
School
franklin's
lda
like
for
for
the
one,
that's
whole
grains,
walgreens,
it's
a
walgreens.
Currently
it
used
to
be
a
borders
yeah.
The
lda
is
only
on
a
portion
of
that
building.
I'm
not
quite
sure
why
it's
only
on
that
portion
of
the
building.
I
think
that
at
the
time
the
building
was
not
in
great
shakes
and
we
sort
of
stepped
in
and
acquired
a
portion
of
it
to
help
rehabilitate
it
to
help
restore
it.
I
A
A
Okay,
public
interest,
okay,
so
well,
then,
maybe,
instead
of
kind
of
going
through
that,
I
think
I
think,
if
you
can
come
back
to
us
with
with
the
apostles
that
were
in,
were,
are
within
these
places
and
a
breakdown
of
what
all
the
ldas.
You
know:
brunswick
king
two
parcels
and
and
six
ldas
kittridge,
three
parcels
28
ldas,
so
those
28
ldas,
I'm
assuming,
are
mostly
affordable.
Housing.
I
Yeah,
they
are
again
we
investigated
them.
We
went
through
them
with
a
pretty
fine
tip
comb,
we
partnered
with
mayor's
office
of
housing,
and
we
feel
pretty
confident
that
even
those
28
ldas
that
not
not
all
those
ldas
are
have
affordable
housing,
a
lot
of
them
for,
like
rental,
rehab
projects
to
to
sort
of
reinvigorate
the
area
of
open
space
and
stuff
like
that,
but
the
ones
that
do
have
affordability,
that
I've
reviewed
that
we've
reviewed
as
a
team.
I
Most
of
the
restrictions
extend
beyond
2022.
Most
of
them
extend
beyond
2030,
which
was
the
maximum
number
of
years.
We
were
going
to
ask
for
an
extension
anyways.
It
was
the
most
we
could
thought
we
could
get
there
is.
There
was
one
parcel
in
question
where
the
lda
ended
in
2022,
but
thanks
to
eileen,
she
found
a
separate
covenant
that
extended
it
for
30
years
beyond
to
2052
right.
J
C
J
Covenant
is
governed
by
a
separate
statute,
so
the
term
of
the
covenant
would
be
30
years,
plus
an
additional
20
years
for
that
restriction
for
affordable
housing.
So
if
the
lda
goes
away,
presumably
the
covenant
remains
in
place
because
it's
it's
in
the
title
to
the
property
and
it
restricts
the
affordability
it
just
when
that
term
ends,
the
lda
has
gone
and
we
don't
have
any
further
interaction
with
that
property.
J
J
A
So
so,
if
you
can
explain
a
little
bit
like
covenants
with
covenant,
we
we
know
with
affordable
housing,
the
covenants
with
the
owner
or
the
builder
or
whatever,
that's
how
we
we
we
would
protect
housing
after
the
lda
is
no
longer
we're
not
no
longer
able
to
use
it.
But
if
how
would
we
protect
open
space
or
some
of
the
other
benefits
that
come
with
the
ldas.
B
B
Own
okay,
sorry,
we
currently
own
235
parcels,
but
that
includes
both
our
land
leased
inventory
so
and
then
we
have,
for
example,
old
city
hall
in
the
yeah,
and
the
school
of
franklin
is
a
property
we
own,
but
it's
already
fully
developed
and
you
know
sort
of
final
end
use.
I
don't
have
the
number
broken
down
by
urban
rural
district
for
you
right
now.
I
can
certainly
get
that
for
you,
but
the
it's.
B
They
were
we're
working.
That's
chris
mentioned.
We
work
very
hard
on
this.
It's
incredibly
important
to
us
to
develop
public
land
for
public
good,
and
you
know
they
they
range
from
a
small.
You
know
single-family
home
lot
in
a
residential
neighborhood.
Then
the
example
in
brunswick
is
a
good
example
of
that
all
the
way
up
to.
In
the
campus
high
renault
area,
we
have
parcel
p3,
which
is
the
very
largest
parcel
on
our
in
our
inventory,
something
we
are
incredibly
dedicated
to
developing
in
the
public
interest
and
that's
over
seven
acres
of
land.
A
On
tremont
street
yeah,
exactly
okay
and
my
I
know
I
just
said
last
question:
my
last
last
question
is:
is
for
the
the
old
city
hall?
That's
a
that's
a
a
long-term
lease
with
synergy.
I
guess
so
does
that
money
from
that
lease
go
in
for
your
operating
budget
for
bpda
like?
Is
that
how
so
in
what
you
own
and
you
collect,
rent
on?
Does
that
go
towards
bpda
operations.
B
As
a
as
a
general
answer,
you're
absolutely
right-
that
is
that
we
in
general
take
our
land
lease
revenue
and
that's
what
funds
the
agency
we
take
no
tax
dollars
in
the
city
of
boston.
We
have
plenty
of
examples
of
property
where
we
do
have.
We
have
a
either
greatly
below
market
ground,
rent
or
a
zero
dollar
ground
wrench
to
support
community
development
uses
and,
of
course,
we
have
uses
outside
of
our
rental
area
like
in
the
marine
park
and
then
cdic
property,
where
we
have
market
rate
uses.
B
That
really
are
the
engine
of
of
funding.
The
vpda
in
the
case
of
or
old
city
hall
is
a
unique
example,
because
that
was
really
a
city
I
mean
it
was
that
was
city
hall.
It
was
a
city
building,
so
the
revenues
from
that.
Well,
we
have
the
landlace
the
revenues
for
that
are
dedicated
back
to
the
city.
Okay,.
C
Great
thanks
so
much
councillor,
baker
and-
and
I
would
just
note
for
colleagues
that,
in
the
back
of
the
packet
connected
to
the
information
request,
there's
a
list
of
every
land
disposition
agreement
attached
to
these
five.
So
if
people
have
a
chance
to
if
you're,
if
you're
wondering
about
those
we're
grateful
for
the
vpda
for
providing
those
and
then
the
on
the
second
page,
that
info
request
that
kind
of
gives
a
count
of
how
many
are
attached
to
the
nine
that
are
up.
C
C
So
we
understand
that,
and
I
do
think
that,
although
it
wasn't
in
the
info
request
getting
confirmation
that
for
each
of
the
affordable
partials
in
kitridge
square,
since
I
think
it's
the
only
one
where
affordable
housing
is
mentioned,
that
there
is
like
a
second
stop
gap
thing,
but
also,
if
you
could
just
speak
a
little
bit
more
to
that
issue,
because
I
mean
from
again
from
my
perspective
as
I
think
about
why
I'm
glad
that
fenway
that
we're
talking
about
extending
fenway
as
part
of
the
short
term.
It
really
is
that
issue
so.
B
I'll
start
and
we
turn
it
over
eileen
who
can
speak
in
more
legal
detail,
but
I
think
in
general
counsel
brock
what
you're
hitting
on
there
is
exactly
the
distinction
between
the
five
that
we're
proposing
the
sunset
and
the
nine
that
we
are
suggesting.
We
need
some
additional
time
because
we
need
to
take
the
time
to
do
the
thorough
research.
So
we
can
come
to
this
council
and
say:
we've
looked
at
every
parcel
in
the
fenway
or
every
parcel
in
south
cove
every
parcel
and
the
south
end.
B
Those
are
renewal
districts
which
have
many
many
many
more
ldas
and
will
take
more
time
to
get
to
that
level
of
confidence
that
we're
at
for
kitchen
square
for
brunswick,
king
and
the
three
downtown
parcels.
Where
that
we're
very
confident,
there's
not
going
to
be
unintended
consequences
and
loss
of
affordability,
but
turn
it
over
to
eileen
to
talk
about
kitchen
square
in
particular.
J
J
There
are
in
other
areas,
you
know
the
intersection
of
urban
renewal
intervention,
plus
bha
housing,
plus
d
d,
financing
that
all
came
together
to
create
multiple
layers
of
protection
for
property.
So
those
are
the
types
of
things
that
we'd
probably
want
to
drill
down
on
and
say
once
urban
renewal
goes
away
here.
C
And
following
up
on
the
affordable
housing
front,
the
can,
can
you
guys
talk
a
little
bit
about?
It
was
something
it's
on
the
third
page
of
the
info
request.
I
did
ask
I
I
asked
you
all
this,
but
I
was
wondering
if
you
talk
a
little
bit
in
the
hearing
about
the
like
the
way
in
which
the
bpda
uses
these
renewal
powers
to
acquire
like
land
for
public,
for
not
for
public
but
for
often
affordable,
often
social
housing.
C
And
specifically,
I
just
want
to
confirm
that,
with
the
five
districts
that
we're
talking
about
today,
sun
setting,
we
don't
feel
like
there
are
major
opportunities
for
affordable
housing
development
because
you
guys
have
talked
about
you
know
the
bpda
owned
parcels
and
whether
any
of
those
need
action
and
you've
talked
about
the
land
disposition
agreements
and
whether
we're
losing
anything-
and
I
agree-
those
are
two
of
the
important
things.
But
it
does
seem
like
a
third
important
criteria.
C
B
Yeah
I'd
be
happy
to.
I
think
you
know
that
chris
went
through
the
lens
of
how
we
viewed
all
that
when
making
the
decision,
whether
or
not
to
recommend
sun
setting-
and
I
think
it
really
is
check
what
you're
saying
counselor
bach-
it's
both
backward
looking.
What
are
we
going
to
lose
in
terms
of
protections
and
unintended
consequences
and
and
individuals
might
be
harmed,
but
also
look
forward
looking?
B
How
might
we
want
to
use
these
tools
based
based
on
that
and
then
and
then
based
on
the
current
reality
and
how
tools
are
used
today?
So
a
couple
good
examples
of
how
we've
recently
used
the
acquisition
power
that
the
vpda
has
so
one
important
thing
to
realize
about
the
bpda's
ability
to
acquire
property?
Is
we
don't
we're
not
limited,
but
the
city's,
a
city
of
boston's
limitation
on
acquiring
property
for
municipal
use?
We
can
acquire
property
for
economic
development
purposes.
We
can
acquire
property
for
affordable
housing
development
development
purposes.
B
B
A
good
example
of
that
recently
is
in
roslindale
on
walter
street.
We
acquired
two
parcels
that
were
privately
owned.
The
owner
wanted
to
sell
one
to
sell
rapidly.
It
was
a
a
vacant
home
and
a
piece
of
property.
Next
to
a
wetland.
The
parks
department
really
wanted
to
acquire
this
to
preserve
the
access
to
the
wetlands
and
bring
that
into
that.
It
was
on
their
priority
list
for
acquisition
of
property
for
conservation
purposes,
but
if
they
acquired
it,
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
create
any
housing
there.
They
could
only
acquire
it
for
conservation
purposes.
B
Sheila
dillon's
team
with
the
mayor's
office
of
housing
was
very
interested
in
acquiring
that
house
for
affordable
housing.
So
we
acted
as
agent
for
the
the
city
to
purchase
the
property
and
then
bifurcate
it
into
two
properties.
One
went
to
the
conservation
commission
to
permanently
conserve
it
as
wetlands
access
the
other
we're
in
the
process
of
disposing
it
to
habitat
for
humanity,
who's
going
to
do
three:
affordable
housing
units.
B
There
so
a
unique
example
of
how
our
tools
can
be
helpful
in
a
more
limited
and
a
socially
minded
way,
we're
doing
a
very
similar
project
in
elbows
corner,
where
we've
acquired
some
property
and
are
moving
forward
with
plan
to
develop,
affordable
housing
and
a
new
uplands
corner
branch
library.
That's
a
mix
of
uses
for
acquisition.
That
would
be
very
hard
for
the
city
to
do
so.
Those
are
those
are
tools
we
want
to
hang
on
to
and
think
about
their
the
right
way
to
apply
them
in
the
future
of
verb
renewal.
B
There's
lots
of
avenues
to
do
that.
We
should
have
that
discussion
over
the
course
of
the
nine
month
extension.
But
to
answer
your
question
directly
about
the
five
that
are
expiring,
we
don't
see
an
immediate
need
for
using
those
acquisition
tools
or
an
opportunity
to
use
those
tools
and
to
advance,
I
should
add,
a
affordable
housing
use
or
community
development
use
directly
in
those
districts.
C
Great
okay,
thank
you
and
I'll,
just
stress
for
folks
for
new
counselors
and
other
folks
that
the
council,
actually,
you
know,
really
led
moving
another
20
million
dollars
into
the
acquisition
opportunity
program
that
the
city
has
over
at
dnd
in
the
last
budget
cycle.
And
it's
super
important
to
me
in
this
moment
where
the
private
side
on
housing
just
is
seeing
insane
rental
and
value
increases
that
the
city
be
able
to
take
those
rapid
actions
where
we
act
as
a
buyer.
C
And
so
I
think
folks,
don't
always
know
that.
The
point
that
you
raised
evan,
that
the
city
can
only
acquire
land
for
purely
municipal
purposes,
but
that
you're
sort
of
the
arm
that
we
can
use
to
acquire
land
for
something
like
housing.
And
I
just
want
to
stress
that
it
was
very
important
to
the
council
to
put
that
money
in,
because
we're
really
trying
to
say
hey.
How
do
we
grab
some
of
this
land
and
pull
it
off
the
private
market
and
stabilize
our
communities
with
housing?
C
And
so
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
lose
the
tools
to
effectively
do
that,
because
the
money
is
not
going
to
do
us
any
good
if
we
can't
acquire
things.
So
just
really
want
to
stress
that
point,
but
I
take
the
point
on
these
five.
I
know
that
there's
lots
of
counselors
waiting
to
ask
questions
so
I'll
just
say
also
on
the
direct
negotiation
front,
that
and
I'll.
Let
counselor
flynn
address
it
more
directly,
but
it
does
concern
me.
C
E
B
It
is
a
if,
if
the
only
thing
protecting
it
is
an
lda
and
urban
rule
expires
on
april
22nd,
then
that
affordable
housing
unit
is
no
longer
protected.
Now
lots
of
affordable
housing
units
have
lots
of
other
protections
and,
like
we've
already
mentioned,
they
may
be
owned
by
the
bha.
We
don't
have
to
worry
about.
Those.
The
same
can
be
true.
Same
can
be
said.
Same
can
be
said
about
open
space
restrictions.
B
Some
open
space
restrictions
are
protected
by
ownership,
the
parks
department,
some
open
space
restrictions
are
protected
by
zoning,
but
that's
not
true
of
all
of
them.
So
what
the?
What
we
think
the
council
deserves,
but
certainly
the
residents
of
austin
deserve.
Is
it
for
us
to
be
able
to
speak
with
authority
on
if
this
urban
renewal
district
goes
away?
B
This
is
who
might
be
harmed,
and
this
is
what
we
might
be
able
to
do
about
it.
We're
we
are
very
prepared
and
able
to
say
that
about
the
five
we're
proposing
to
expire,
we're
not
in
a
position
to
be
able
to
say
that
about
the
remaining
nine
and
that's
what
we
need
to
take
the
next
nine
months
to
do.
J
Clarification
quickly
about
the
in
the
urban
renewal
areas,
where
we
actually
still
own
the
parcels,
those
those
are
still
in
our
ownership
and
we're
still
figuring
out
what
to
do
with
development
there.
Anything
that
has
a
land
disposition
agreement
on
it
has
been
transferred
to
another
person.
By
definition,
the
disposition
has
happened.
So
when
that
lda
goes
away,
we
don't
own
that
land
anymore.
J
That's
that's
in
the
private
ownership,
the
covenants
that
are
on
it
might
protect
the
affordability
that
was
created
when
it
was
disposed
of,
but
once
those
covenants
expire
then
that
land
is
in
the
ownership
of
the
person
it
was
disposed
to,
and
we
don't
have
any
more
interaction
with
that.
It's
not
that
you
know
ldas
come
back
to
us
or
we're
still
collecting
rent
on
those
properties
or
that's
not
it
by
definition,
was
a
disposition
to
an
individual.
E
J
B
And
counselor
in
your
packet
there's
a
list
of
ldas
by
a
renewal
district
that
we're
extending.
There
are
731
ldas
in
those
nine
districts
that
we're
extending
and
there
are
235
bpd
own
properties
in
those
districts
that
we're
extending
those
are
mutually
exclusive.
So
those
are
those
are
two
two
different
sets
of
property.
E
B
I
think
that
said,
I
think,
that's
hard
question
to
answer
in
the
general
right,
but
I
think
there
I
think
there
are
certainly
projects
where
the
city
of
boston
had
been
a
city.
Boston
property
could
have
accomplished
the
same
outcome.
It
used
to
work
for
the
mayor's
office
of
housing.
We
certainly
did
a
lot
of
public
land
disposition
for
affordable
housing,
so
there
are
so
the
answer
to
that
is
yes
in
some
cases,
but
then
the
examples
I
used
about
acquisition.
E
And
then
one
last
question
that
dovetails
off
of
the
previous
question
that
I
asked:
do
you
have
an
example
of
a
property
where
there
once
the
of
the
ones
that,
where
you're
seeking
to
have
continued,
are
there
any?
Where
all
that?
Can
you
give
an
example
of
one
where
the
only
restriction
is
the
lda
and
there's
no
there's
no
covenant
that
runs
with
the
land?
There's
no
other
incumbents,
there's
nothing
else
and
what's
preserving
affordability
is
just
that
lda.
B
I
I'm
here,
can
you
hear
me
yeah,
so
I
was
a
child
sound
liaison
a
long
time
ago.
Trying
not
to
remember
about
it,
hosted
a
meeting.
It
was
supposed
to
be
a
zba.
I
thought
it
was
a
zba
meeting
going
to
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
vacant
lot.
What
guy
wants
to
put
a
single
family
there
I
hosted
the
night
strategically
because
there
was
a
big
hood
park
meeting
occurring
on
the
other
side
of
town,
which
is
really
300
foot
building
not
too
far
from
us.
So
I
was
like.
I
I
and
what
I
learned
is-
and
this
was
before
I
worked
here-
that
there's
this
thing
called
urban
renault
and
the
urban
renewal.
It
was
an
agreement
signed
many
decades
ago
by
people
that
have
long
since
passed
that
the
parcel
in
question
would
remain
open
space
for
a
yard
parking,
if
possible,
but
mostly
for
a
yard,
for
the
enjoyment
of
the
four
condo
units
that
are
budget.
I
I
I
Sorry
and
he
was
not
happy-
and
maybe
that's
a
really
small
project
it.
He
wanted
to
do
a
single
family
outright,
but
it
upset
a
lot
of
neighborhood
folks,
their
views,
their
light,
their
air,
another
car
into
the
street.
It's
very
tight
and
that
sort
of
lock
a
child
stop
and
it
happened
again
in
charlestown
and
it
happened
again
in
charleston.
It
happened
about
three
or
four
times
in
charlestown.
B
It's
a
promise
between
the
purchases
of
the
property
and
then
bra,
and
the
only
way
to
enforce
that
promise.
In
this
case,
open
space
is
the
lda.
The
lea
goes
away.
There's
no
more
enforcement
of
that
promise
under
zoning.
That
law
could
be
developed.
That
lot
would
have
been
developed
on
the
affordable
housing
front.
I
am
struggling
to
come
up
with
a
specific
example
of
this,
but
I
will
get
you
one,
but
I
think
that
in
general
the
concept
is
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
affordable
housing.
B
B
Smaller
unit
developments
that
were
built
by
a
home,
a
small
developer
or
small,
or
a
homeowner,
a
rental
property
and
a
two
family,
for
example,
because
they
may
not
have
needed
any
subsidies
in
order
or
the
land
was
sold
for
them
at
a
reduced
cost
and
that
that
was
the
only
subsidy
provided.
So
the
only
thing
enforcing
that
lda
is
an
agreement
between
the
bpda
and
the
and
the
property
owner.
Those
are
the
ones
where
we
really
need
to
do
the
most
research
on
to
figure
out
how
to
protect
them.
E
Thank
you
once
that
research
is
ready.
I'd
be
happy
to
take
a
look
at
who
those
are
what
neighborhoods
those
are
in
what
demographics,
because
I
think
that
it
may
out.
Also
parallel
with
you
know
what
is
considered
naturally
occurring,
affordable
housing,
and
so
what
what
it
looks
like?
What
does
it
look
like
once
the
ldas
are
gone?
It
would
be
interesting
to
see
the
concentration
in
what
specific
neighborhood.
So
thank
you.
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
sheer
eileen.
Just
a
quick
question
just
bring
me
through
the
process
when,
when
that,
when
a
covenant
expires
on
the
affordable
side,
so
the
owner
of
the
property
then
is
notified
that
the
covenant
no
longer
exist
and
then
that
person
is
allowed
to
sell
that
unit
at
a
market
rate
when
they,
when
they've
been
the
beneficiary
of
sort
of
an
affordable
unit.
Is
that
what's
essential.
F
J
F
Given
that
we're
having
this
discussion
about
sun
setting
and
extensions
are
not
extending,
does
that
sort
of
create,
for
example,
there's
nine
plans
and
there's
over
700
ldas?
Does
that
set
up
a
situation
where
folks
paying
attention?
They
can
go
secure,
a
property
because
they
know
the
lda
is
going
to
be
expiring
and
say
eight
months,
and
then
they
sit
there
and
they
make
a
deal
with
someone,
and
then
they
sell
it
on
the
open
market
and
make
a
score.
F
That's
right
so
on
a
predatory
side,
we
obviously
as
a
council
and
obviously
the
bra
doing
business
as
the
bpd.
I
think
we
need
to
be
cognizant
of
that,
particularly
in
this
environment,
where
the
economy
is,
but
also
because
of
where
the
housing
costs
are,
and
then-
and
this
is
an
al
also-
this
isn't
my
first
rodeo
with
this
stuff
here
so
and
I'm
gonna
be
frank.
F
F
So
I'm
just
going
to
give
it
to
you
straight
because
I've
seen
this
movie
before
and
then
what
happens
is
in
the
eight
months
you
come
in
for
another
extension,
so
through
the
chair,
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
very
frank
conversation
for
the
benefit
of
the
public
as
to
realistically,
how
long
is
that
going
to
take,
because
I
know
it's
going
to
take
a
hell
of
a
lot
longer
than
eight
months
to
review
nine
plans
and
set
over
700
ldas.
Those
are
the
facts.
F
Plus
we've
got
covenants
expiring,
where
people
are
in
affordable
situations
that
then
they're
going
to
get
flipped
out
of
them.
So,
let's
be
very
frank
here:
is
that
do
you
need
two
years
to
do
that
with
three
years?
To
do
that,
because
I
know
eight
months:
is
that
that's
that's:
that's
a
crock,
so
we're
in
a
public
hearing
we're
asking
this
body
to
make
decisions
about
sun
setting
and
about
the
potential
to
extend.
F
You
know-
and
I
know
that
eight
months
is
not
going
to
cut
the
mustard
to
review
nine
other
plans
and
700
proposals,
so
I
don't
want
the
council
being
played
here
only
to
have
to
revisit
this
in
eight
months
and
then
get
another
eight
month
extension
another
image.
So
what
is
the
period?
What
is
the
amount
of
time
that
you
need
honestly
so
that
this
body
can
go
to
work
and
give
you
the
ability
to
to
to
to
to
analyze
and
to
investigate
all
of
these?
I
don't
when
council
flynn
had
alluded
to
it.
F
He
doesn't
want
anyone
in
his
I'm
sure.
My
district
colleagues
don't
want
anyone
in
their
districts
being
displaced.
If
we're
gonna
start
to
play
a
six
eight
month,
game,
people
are
gonna
be
displaced.
I
don't
want
that
to
happen.
If
it's,
if
you
need
two
years
ask
for
two
years,
if
you
need
14
months,
ask
for
14
minutes.
If
you
need
three
years,
ask
for
three
years,
just
tell
us
what
you
need
to
do:
a
thorough
analysis
of
all
nine
plans
and
all
700
ldas
and
we'll
work
with
you.
F
I
just
don't
want
to
be
in
this
game
and
again
prior
to
you
coming
here,
I've
dealt
with
a
couple
of
your
predecessors,
I'm
the
longest
serving
council
here
in
terms
of
these
ldas
and
through
urban
renewal
and
as
a
reference
I've
seen
the
movie
before
I've
seen
the
movie
before
yeah,
so
having
some
historical
knowledge
on
it.
I
know
you
know
everybody
here
knows
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
longer
than
eight
months
to
get
this
work
done.
F
B
And
thank
you,
mr
chair
and
absolutely
counselor,
and
I
and
I
I
want
to
echo
the
point
about
working
together.
That's
why
we're
here
we
absolutely
want
to
work
together
with
the
council
on
this.
We
absolutely
want
to
take
the
council's
direction
on
in
shaping
the
future
of
our
city,
and
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
the
point
made
in
the
opening
statement
about
accountability
and
transparency.
B
What
that
actual
work
looks
like
so
we'd
and
I
think
working
closely
with
administration
felt
that
it
was
appropriate
for
us
to
set
a
short-term
deadline
so
that
everyone
can
hold
us
accountable
to
showing
results
to
coming
back
here
with
analysis
and
making
progress
are
there
if
we
find
that
there
are
lots
of
affordable
housing
units,
for
example
at
risk?
I
do
not
think
that
we
will
be
able
to
fully
resolve
that
in
eight
months
and
we
may
need
other
solutions.
B
We
may
need
further
extensions
and
that
in
the
in
the
mayor's
transmission
to
the
city
council
asking
for
this
herring,
I
think
she
was
transparent
that
that
further
extensions
may
be
necessary,
but
we,
I
think
we
just
want
to
be
cautious
about
it,
not
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
forever
and
we
want
to.
We
want
to
be
responsive.
We
want
to
in
be
communicating.
F
Through
the
chair,
given
my
experience,
there
will
be
requests
for
extensions,
so
why
don't
we
just
step
off
and
be
honest
and
say
why
don't
we
give
you
a
two-year
extension
with
six-month
check-ins
through
the
committee
chair
every
six
months?
You
guys
come
in
and
give
councillor
baker
and
his
committee
an
update
as
to
where
you
are.
I
would
prefer
that
then,
to
sort
of
have
this
kind
of
this
little
cat.
Mouse
thing.
That's
just
again.
My
experience
on
it
is
that
I
know
you
know
it's
going
to
take
longer
than
eight
months.
F
Let's
just
call
it
what
it
is.
Let's
give
you
guys
the
time
to
do
what
you
guys
need
to
do
for
the
plans
and
for
the
ldas.
It's
important
work
yeah
and
it's
thorough
analysis
in
this
whole
process.
For
those
that
aren't
familiar
with
it.
It's
very
nuanced
and
every
time
you
look
around
a
corner
or
a
building,
there's
something
else,
and
then
you
got
to
worry
about
so
this
this
it's
intricately
involved
with
many
pieces.
So
again,
I
just
want
to
have
a
very
frank
and
honest
conversation
through
the
chair.
F
It
ain't
gonna
be
eight
months,
counselor
baker,
let's
just
put
it
on
the
table,
and
so,
let's
find
out
a
more
realistic
timeline.
I
would
suggest
two
years
with
six-month
check-ins
through
the
chair
into
the
committee
working
with
the
lead
sponsors
and
district
councillors
who
have
these
in
their
districts.
That
would
be
my
two
cents,
based
on
my
experience
and
again
having
seen
this
movie
before.
A
If
I
can
speak
to
that
a
little
bit
council
flaherty-
I
I
mean
I'm
open
to
that.
I
think
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
this
right,
because
we
don't
want
to
lose.
You
know
affordable
housing
and
things
like
that.
It's
just
sometimes
like
I
said,
I'm
I'm
open
to
your
suggestion.
Here
we
were
looking
to
push
it
out
till
I
think
next
march
next
march,
so
it
would
be,
it
would
be
a
year.
A
I
don't
want
to
lose
people
on
the
board
that
think
that
that
still
I
don't
want
to
lose
people
on
our
council.
That
may
have
maybe
not
a
great
view
of
the
bpda
and
want
to
keep
them
under
a
microscope,
so
that
that's
something
that
that
I'd
like
to
keep
into
you
know
true.
I
totally
agree
with
you
I
want
to.
I
want
to
allow
this
team
here
as
much
time
as
they
need
to
make
sure
that
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
do
this.
This
thing,
rightly
so,
yeah
we'll
we'll
and.
F
Mr
chair,
I
would
suggest
that
you
keep
this
docket,
keep
it
keep
it
in
committee
yep
and
have
them
report
every
six
months.
We
want
to
do
it
quarterly,
but
I
think
six
months
would
be
appropriate,
so
we
have
an
open
docket.
So
we
have
a
matter
in
front
of
us
if
we
keep
this
matter
open
and
have
it
as
a
working
document,
then,
to
your
point:
that's
how
we
were
able
to
keep
the
bpda's
feet
to
the
fire
on
this
issue.
So,
okay,
I
appreciate
it.
Mr
chair
thanks.
My
colleagues
for
their
indulgence
does.
B
I
think
I
I
think
council
breaker,
you
also
put
it
well,
there
are
there
are,
and
we
tried
to
acknowledge
this
in
our
opening
statements.
There
are.
There
are
certainly
those
who
are
skeptical
about
their
renewal,
given
its
truly
checkered
past,
and
I
think
we
want
to
acknowledge
that
those
constituents
have
concerns
about
the
extent
ongoing
extensions,
so
we're.
G
And
that
brings
me
to
the
ldas
in
my
district,
but
also
other
people's
district
is
and
I've.
I've
said
this
I've
said
this
before,
but
I
can't
I
can't
have
one
resident
impacted
at
all
by
any
decision
in
a
negative
way
by
the
bpda,
as
it
relates
to
possibly
being
forced
out
of
their
house
for
apartment.
For
any
particular
reason.
G
G
That's
my
number
one
priority
is
making
sure
residents
that
are
currently
living
there,
that
they're
protected
that
their
quality
of
life
is
addressed,
but
under
no
circumstances
could
I
ever
support
something
where
one
tenant
is
forced
from
their
apartment.
For
any
reason,
that's
my
number
one
priority,
the
other.
The
other
priority
I
have
is
as
council
flaherty
mentioned,
and
I've
said
this
publicly.
G
B
And
that's
my
question:
yeah!
Thank
you!
Counselor,
it's
okay,
it's
an
exceptional
question
and-
and
I
think
you're
absolutely
asking
the
right
one
and
with
your
focus
for
the
with
the
the
three
downtown
districts,
keeping
the
focus
on
the
on
the
residents
of
chinatown
and
preventing
displacement
and
preserving
affordability.
B
I
think
is
absolutely
appropriate
and
I
think
it
just
goes
back
to
the
distinction
between
the
five
that
we're
recommending
for
sun
setting
versus
the
nine
or
additional
times
needed,
and
because
I
don't,
I
don't
think
we
can
say
with
authority
today
to
the
earlier
points
that
that
that
situation
is
not
going
to
happen.
I
mean
chris
just
gave
a
great
great
anecdote
about.
It
might
might
be
a
small
case,
but
at
a
open
space
restriction
in
charlestown.
B
That
obviously
has
development
interest
and
if
that
lda
expires,
then
that
if
that
developer
still
owns
that
property
they'll
want
to
pursue
development.
So
there's
there.
What
you're
saying
is
absolutely
spot
on.
Everybody
was
a
lens.
We
took
to
our
analysis
and
what
we're
why
we're
recommending
the
five
that
we
would
recommend
to
sunset
in
april
and
why
we're
for
saturday,
night
or
additional
time.
G
J
So
when
a
request
comes
in
for
us
to
consider
a
project
for
121a
approval,
we
work
closely
with
assessing
because
the
121a
is
giving
a
tax
break
to
the
property.
If
it's
for
affordable
housing-
and
you
know
there
does
in
order
to
use
121a,
there
is
an
extraordinary
benefit,
that's
being
achieved
from
from
that
project.
A
lot
of
affordable
housing,
saving
an
exceptional
landmark
like
the
huntington
theater.
J
J
L
B
G
And
then
just
one
quick
comment,
I
think
people
here
know
the
council
block
highlighted
it:
china,
world
trade,
center,
critical
role
in
the
community,
temporary
library
was
there
the
the
the
asian,
the
chinatown
historical
society,
the
urban
college,
I
believe,
there's
another
arts
group.
There
was
there's
a
woman's
hair
styling
company
there.
G
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
this
process
continues,
that
that
building
we're
able
to
make
sure
that
small
businesses
stay
there,
but
there's
a
major
component
to
community
space,
whether
it's
a
historical
society
or
various
non-profit
groups
that
do
a
lot
of
exceptional
work.
You
highlighted
bcnc
earlier
in
your
on
your
slide
presentation,
but
that
that
building
plays
a
critical
role
in
the
neighborhood,
and
I
know
we've
talked
about
that
before.
G
B
B
The
lda,
the
lda
properties,
I
believe,
have
height
restrictions
on
them,
and
I
know
your
the
constituents
in
the
park
plaza
area
are
very
concerned
about
shadows
cast
plaza.
My
understanding
is
that
the
ldas
do
speak
to
height
restrictions,
but
zoning
also
speaks
to
hyper
hype
restrictions.
Zoning
does
it
with
that.
Well,
well,
those
well.
The
ability
to
enforce
those
ldas
would
go
away
after
april
22nd
we
can
still
enforce
zoning
yeah,
but
they
could
get.
G
They
could
get
approval
at
the
zba
for
full,
larger
buildings,
but
if
the
bit,
if
the
urban
renewal
is
still
in
place,
there'd
be
more
protection
for
the
neighborhood
right
that
I
think
that's
accurate,
so
the
so
that's
a
quality
of
life
for
residents
in
the
neighborhood.
So
something
something
to
think
about.
That's.
Why
going
back
to
my
colleague,
council
flaherty
a
lot
of
these
decisions
that
we're
making
today,
you
know
have
permanent
are
going
to
be
with
us
permanently.
G
I
I
would
like
to
see
a
longer
period
of
time,
so
we're
able
to
consider
those
types
of
those
types
of
questions,
I'm
sure
there's
there's
dozens
and
dozens
of
those
types
of
questions
around
the
city,
and
I
think
residents
would
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
our
due
dil
due
diligence
as
as
a
city
council
body
too,
to
make
sure
that
we
do
our
due
diligence
to
represent
them
the
best
we
can.
But
having
said
that,
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you
for
your
hard
work
on
this
project.
H
B
I
think
you
know
chris,
I
mean
this
is
chris's
full-time
job,
so
chris
probably
very
apt
to
answer
that
question,
but
I
think
probably
the
general
answer
is
in
2016
the
council
extended
working
with
the
mayor's
office
at
that
time.
There
were
no
plan
areas
until
until
april
right,
so
we
knew
that
in
2016.,
in
2020
chris
put
together
working
with
numerous
people
across
our
agency.
B
That
proposal
to
sunset
first
five,
then
four
now
back
to
back
to
five
but
sunset,
though
the
a
select
few
few
districts
in
april
and
then
set
out
a
timeline
two
years
ago
for
the
the
sun
setting
of
the
rest,
the
majority
sun
setting
by
2026
and
the
the
last
ones,
the
largest
one
sun,
setting
by
2030.
That
answers
the
question.
H
H
H
H
They
at
one
point
bpda
acquired
land
as
sometime
way
back
in
the
50s.
Some
agreement
went
in
place
that
this
brilliant
idea
was
going
to
go
in
right
and
then
bpa
started,
acquiring
chunks
of
land.
Bpda
then
said
we
have
this
plan
and
we're
going
to
renew
stuff
and
we're
going
to
make
it
better
for
everybody.
H
People
were
like
all
the
way
in
charlestown,
like
black
people
used
to
live
there,
south
boston,
east,
boston,
south
end
back
bay
and
people
started
getting
pushed
out,
pushed
out,
pushed
out,
pushed
out
and
got
poorer
and
poorer
and
went
into
the
projects
and
therefore
suffered
now.
Bpda
is
here
and
saying:
hey
new
staff,
new
crew,
new
ideas,
we're
good
people.
H
B
I
can,
but
I
can
respond
if
you'd
like
so
first,
I
think
it's
important
to
acknowledge
the
displacement
facts
that
you've
outlined.
That
is
there
it's
true
that
the
the
legacy
of
urban
renewal
has
caused
displacement
in
some
neighborhoods
and
we
have
to
acknowledge
that
we
have
to
work
as
best.
We
can
to
write
that
as
we
chart
the
future.
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
a
lot
of
data
has
been
collected.
B
That
was
really
the
major
charge
of
the
council
in
2016,
because
I
think
the
criticism
that
we
were
we
were
non-transparent.
We
did
not
have
records,
we
we
had
ldas,
but
they
were
in
file,
cabinets
somewhere
and
no
one
could
access
those
if
you
were
in
the
public
or
the
landowner.
So
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
so
starting
in
2016
and
given
the
director
from
the
council
to
become
more
transparent
and
accountable,
we
created
chris's
position
and
we've
worked
to
create
an
lda
database
online.
B
As
we
sunset
urban
renewal,
we
do
it
with
thoughtfully
and
don't
cause
harms
to
anyone
or
cause
unintended
consequences
to
lose
tools
that
we
might
be
able
to
deploy
to
help
build
communities
in
positive
and
progressive
ways,
and
so
that
that
that
action
plan
was
submitted
in
2020
and
like
like
I
mentioned
it
called
for
majority
of
urban
renewal
plan
areas
being
to
be
expired
by
2026
and
the
biggest
ones
by
2030,
because
we
needed
we
knew
at
that
time.
There's
a
lot
of
work.
That
needs
to
be
done.
B
I
think,
what's
important
to
acknowledge
now
is
that
we
have
a
very
new
city
council
and
a
new
mayor
and
that
those
and
we're
charting
a
new
direction
for
our
city
and
it's
important
that
we
craft
a
plan
for
the
future
of
a
renewal.
That's
reflective
of
that
new
reality,
and
so
that's
why
we're
not
here
today
saying:
let's
go,
let's
implement
the
action
plan
from
2020.,
let's,
instead
work
together
on
an
action
plan
that
that
makes
sense
for
this
council
and
this
administration.
H
B
If,
if
the
the
lda
can
only
be
amended
because
the
ldas
are
owned
by
private
individuals,
not
always
developers,
in
some
cases,
there
are
homeowners
and
affordable
homeowners
or
people
who
bought
open
space
next
to
their
house
or
but
but
sometimes
developers.
True
too,
that
lda
is
a
contract
between
the
dpda
and
that
that
developer
to
amend
it
will
require
the
parties
to
enter
into
a
negotiation
and
amend
the
contract.
So
if
those
are
going
to
expire,
there
would
have
to
be
some
event.
B
B
A
no
a
121a
is
a
generally
a
tax
deal
and
would
have
that's
a
new
contract.
They'd
have
to
come
in
and
we'd
have
to
run
through
a
process
and
decide
whether
or
not
we
want
to
do
that.
But
I
guess
I'll
also
want
to
highlight
the
majority
of
these
land
disposition.
Agreements
that
we're
concerned
about
are
not.
B
Opportunities
for
a
high-end
luxury
housing,
but
are
in,
in
some
cases,
restrictions
on
homeowners
properties
that
they
actually
may
want
to
retain
because
it
helps
them.
You
know
it
keeps
their
property
value
lower.
It
keeps
their
tax
payments
a
little
bit
lower
because
the
the
open
space
restriction
or
the
affordable
housing
restriction
limits
the
value
of
the
property.
In
some
cases,
that
might
be
a
bad
thing,
but
in
some
cases,
actually
might
be
a
good
thing
for
that
homeowner
because
it
helps
them
stay
in
their
home.
H
I
I
want
to
understand.
Thank
you
for
that
explanation.
I
want
to
understand
you
acquire
land,
it's
a
business,
you
acquire
land,
you
sell
it.
The
land
belonged
to
a
people
that
now
died
and
suffered.
Now
you
have
the
land,
just
you,
you
can't
give
it
back.
Could
you
give
it
back?
You
can't
just
give
it
back,
but
if
you
have
the
land
now,
you're
gonna
sell
it
to
developers
that
don't
even
reflect
the
community
that
it's
already
affected
and
those
developers
now
are
going
you're
going
to
commoditize.
H
B
Yep,
it's
a
very
big
question,
I'll
try
to
give
you
a
quick
vignette
and,
and
I'm
happy
to
dig
into
it
deeper.
The
bpda
is
self-financed.
We
do
where
the
70
of
our
revenue
comes
from
real
estate
transactions,
mostly
ground
leases
that
are
that
are
paying
money
into
the
to
the
bpa
over
time.
Would
you
get
some
grants
for
workforce
training,
programs
and
other
other
grant
sources
of
the
reigning
30,
the
the
the
vast
majority
of
our
our
real
estate?
B
Revenues
in
total
honesty
come
from
the
marine
industrial
park
in
south
boston,
where
we
operate
job,
creating
maritime
industrial
focused
property
in
outside
of
the
marine
park
when
we're
developing
land
in
boston's
communities,
residential
development's
forbidden
and
the
marine
park
is
an
industrial
space.
We
are.
B
We
are
very
deeply
commute
committed
to
public
plan
for
public
good
and
putting
the
community
at
the
center
of
decision-making
processes
on
the
future
of
their
property,
and
we
the
the
revenue
deal
for
that,
the
future
of
that
revenue.
The
real
estate
needs
to
make
sense
for
the
people
of
boston
right.
We
shouldn't
give
away
the
people
of
boston's
land
for
free
to
enrich
private
actors.
B
So
if
we're
doing
something
that
is,
if
the
community
supports
a
market
rate
development
on
a
piece
of
property,
then
that
market
rate
owner
should
pay
a
market
rent
but
oftentimes
what
we're
doing
and
what
the
community's
vision
is
for.
A
particular
piece
of
property
is
open
space
or
affordable
housing
or
community
development,
and
then
those
are
properties
we're
happy
to
give.
H
To
that
point,
it's
at
that
point
and
I'm
gonna
make
just
three
final
remarks.
I'm
sorry
and
I'm
gonna
close,
I'm
so
sorry,
and
I
know
that
you
and
your
job,
you
are
doing
what
you
can
with
the
resources
that
you
have
available
to
you,
and
I
appreciate
your
time
and
your
work
to
doing
it
to
the
best
or
at
least
as
equitable
as
possible,
and
I
appreciate
that
what
I
I
will
continue
to
hopefully,
work
with
you
on
is
to
advocate
for
the
community
one
give
back
the
land
two.
H
Hopefully,
if
you
don't
get
back
to
land,
fine,
that's
not
gonna
work.
Can
we
negotiate?
Can
we
talk
about
real,
real
solutions
for
equitable
development,
responsible
development
and
because
what
I
have
to
say
about
that
is
in
in
district
7?
You
know
why
my
position
is
the
way
I
grew
up
in
roxbury
right
like
I
really
know
this
area
and-
and
you
know
those
meetings
how
they
go
poor
morgan.
So
it's
really
like
it's
a
lot
on
the
community.
H
These
people
come
and
they
cry
and
they're
they're
in
pain,
right
and
they're
not
being
heard
and
they
feel
dismissed.
Every
single
time
they
ask
you
for
affordable
units.
None
of
that
happens.
None
of
these
solutions
work,
affordable
rental
units
on
eighty
percent,
a
hundred
percent
ami.
Seventy
percent
mi
is
impoverishing
the
black
and
brown
community
bpda
solutions
to
selling
to
white
developers
to
build
in
our
community.
Even
when
they're
black
those
affordable
ami
rates
don't
work.
H
So
it's
a
policy
issue,
and
now
you
have
people
that
feel
dismissed,
they're
in
pain
that
cry
that
die
that
suffer
and
it's
just
a
perpetual
cycle
of
like
no
su
real
solutions
right
and
they
come
and
they
yell
at
you
and
they're
yelling
at
morgan
and
the
community
engagement
feels
pretentious
and
performative.
None
of
it
works
you're,
not
reaching
real
people
that
really
need
to
learn
about
this
stuff.
So
then
you
have
like
a
handful
of
you,
know,
naysayers
and
then
everything
is
disregarded.
H
Just
a
big
mess,
just
a
big
headache
right.
So
what
I
have
to
say
about
that
is
we
need.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
On
engagement,
like
washington
park
got
marked
100
trees
to
be
cut
down.
I
didn't
even
get
word
of
it
wow.
What
is
going
on
right?
So
then
we
have
all
of
these.
All
of
this
commotion.
H
Going
on
over
there
in
south
end
developers
are
trying
to
buy
parking
lots
out
of
you
know,
affordable
housing
units
so
that
they
can
make
luxury
condos
anything
that
they
can
any
type
of
urban
renewal
laws,
or
you
know
little
nuances
as
he
calls
it
to
go
in
and
displace
people.
That's
what
happens
and
we
don't
have
the
answers.
You
don't
have
the
answer.
We
don't
have
the
answer,
so
I'm
not
pointing
fingers,
but
I'm
saying
this
is
a
real
problem,
extending
it
to
my
colleague,
clarity
mentioned
extending
it.
H
I
feel
it's
like
well,
if
you
don't
have
the
solutions
and
you
knew
that
you
needed
the
data
and
now
you're
gonna
go
work
on
studying
this
thing
shouldn't.
We
ask
you
for
progress
report
before
we
extend
it
past
eight
months
shouldn't
we
examine
what
work
you've
done
shouldn't
we
put
you
on
some
sort
of
probationary,
something
right
you
would
agree.
So
I
don't
get
the
two-year
thing.
H
I
really
would
like
to
be
able
to
critically
look
at
a
comprehensive
plan
and
say
we
are
examining
every
six
months
every
eight
months,
so
that
we
can
actually
measure
how
we
are
actually
getting
to
a
solution,
because
if
we
continue
to
just
oh
sure,
like
urban
renewal,
great
thing
and
it
gave
us
parks
who
cares
they're
crumbs
and
all
of
these
things
have
killed
and
pushed
people
out.
Who
cares?
H
B
Counselor,
I
deeply
appreciate
your
advocacy
on
behalf
of
your
constituents
and
the
people
of
boston.
I
think
it
deeply
resonates
with
us
and
what
we
want
to
achieve.
I
think
you
know
the
intent
is
there
to
lead
forward
a
more
equitable
solution,
more
equitable
solutions
in
development,
and
I
think
that's
the
lens
we
want
to
take
to
this
request,
for
the
extension
are
there
are
the
problems
we
need
to
install
solve
across
the
board
in
community
engagement
and
developing
land
for
public
good?
Yes,
there
are
and
we're
looking
forward
to
working
forward.
Thank
you.
H
Working
together
to
do
so,
thank
you.
I
think
we
also
have
to
ask
the
city:
what
is
the
alternative
plan?
What
are
our
options
when
you
can't
protect
these
residents
right
because
it
it
can't
just
be
on
bpda,
obviously
again
your
business
70
70,
I
mean
privately
funded,
like
that's,
obviously
in
the
business
of
making
money,
so
where
I
think
the
alternate
alternate
solution
has
to
come
from
us,
the
city
and
figuring
out.
What
is
the
plan
to
protecting
these
residents
so
that
we
are
actually
sincere
about
what
we
say
that
we're
about?
A
B
B
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
quick
question
kind
of
pick.
It
back
pick
it
back
in
off
of
what
counselor
fernandez
anderson
asked
was.
Can
you
talk
to
me
about
the
community
engagement
process
and
the
contact
rate
on
when
you
were
engaging
the
community
based
on
like
the
feedback
that
you
provided
here
and
the
reports.
I
I
We
had
childs.
Now
we
had
280
people
in
the
south
end
on
zoom
we
had
256
people
in
washington
park.
We
had
about
50
people
in
person,
just
pre-pandemic
that
were
into
it.
They
had
written
their
own
books
about
it.
It
was
actually
a
pretty
enjoyable
team
power,
plaza
similar
small
group,
if
I
recall,
but
they
were,
they
were
part
of
the
cdc,
cnc
and
they're
very
interested
in
the
history,
and
they
were
very
kind
and
friendly.
I
Some
of
the
ones
downtown
school
franklin,
government
center,
minimal
attendance-
maybe
some
students
from
nearby
universities
who
northeastern
boston
university
that
were
interested
in
it,
none
maybe
doing
it
as
a
class
south
cove
we
had
a
large
turnout
along
with
councillor
flynn's
backing,
certainly
so
any
sort
of
aid
to
get
the
word
out.
There
tends
to
make
the
biggest
community
meetings
so
yeah
southampton
was
busy.
It
was
really
busy,
it
was
260,
but
it
was
on
zoom,
maybe
which
is
maybe
not
the
same.
I
We
did
do
some
smaller
outbreaks
to
like
the
civic
groups,
just
introduce
it.
I
don't
know
if
you
count
that
as
community
meeting,
but
it
was
overall,
it
was
a
great
experience.
I
I
wanted
to
go
to
every
urban
area,
because
that's
the
way
my
brain
works,
like
they're,
all
different,
they're,
all
unique,
and
when
you
start
talking
about
one
and
then
another
one
and
the
same
meaning
it
gets
too
confusing.
D
I
I
I
B
But
I
think
one
thing
I
want
to
make
sure
we
add
chris
is
when
we
went
out
and
did
the
community
engagement
in
brunswick
king,
the
my
understanding
is
that
the
majority
of
constituents
who
attended
that
meeting
and
provided
a
feedback
were
supportive
of
the
verb
renewal
expiring
in
the
district
but
had
their
own.
Their.
The
concerns
voiced
were
around
the
remaining
publicly
owned
property,
so
the
bpda
has
two
properties:
the
city
of
boston,
mayor's
office.
Housing
has
a
few
properties
as
well.
B
That
seem
to
be
very
good
opportunities
for
our
continued
effort
to
create
affordable
housing
on
infield
vacant
lots.
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
enthusiasm
in
that
area
for
doing
something
with
that
vacant
property.
There's
concern,
I
think,
across
the
board
that
vacant
property
is
not
doing
anything
for
adjacent
community
members
and
that
they
were
at
the
time-
and
this
was
one
of
the
reasons
why
brunswick
came
out.
Is
we
thought?
Is
it
possible
that
we
might
need
urban
renewal
tools
in
order
to
advance
the
development
project
in
the
public
interest
there?
D
I
L
I
D
B
I
B
I've
had
some
conversations
with
bps
on
this
recently,
because
this
might
be
a
question
that
came
up.
The
the
frederick
school
is
one
of
the
middle
schools
that
that
bps
has
advanced
the
thinking
on
that
it's
not
the
model
they're
going
to
continue.
I
believe
the
the
current
plan
is
for
the
school
to
be
used
to
swing
space
for
renovations
at
other
schools,
so
we'll
continue
in
educational
use
and
to
chris's
point
we
did
transfer
some.
B
B
I
guess
this
is
in
the
eye
of
the
beholder,
but
that
it
does
not
seem
that
there's,
a
immediate
obvious
need
for
the
use
of
renewal
tools
like
if,
if
the
school
became
vacant
property
we
wanted,
and
it
was
surplus
by
this
council
and
then
wanted
to
be
redeveloped
in
some
scenario.
Would
we
need
our
room
tool
tools
to
do
it?
That's
a
pretty
it's
pretty
large
hypothetical
there
and
we
don't
see
the
immediate
you
need
versus
the
residence
feedback
that
you
know
are
they're
really
on
their
only
concern
with
those
those
two
properties.
D
B
J
The
city
process
for
how
they
assess
property
when
they
do
it
when
they
catch
up
with
restrictions.
Ending
it's
just
a
matter
of
it's,
definitely
something
that
the
property
owner
would
want
to
be
aware
of.
But
it's
not
going
to
happen
overnight.
I
don't
think
that
they,
you
know
the
city
is
going
to
send
someone
out
there
and
say
hey
that
restriction's
gone
this
property.
L
J
A
A
Okay,
so
the
first
round
of
questions
I
wanted
to
be
able
to
people
have
their
time
to
get
the
questions
out
that
they
wanted
to
now.
We're
gonna
just
go
around
another
brief
brief
round
if
people
do
have
more
questions
and
if
we
can
keep
everything
as
as
tight
as
possible,
I
would
appreciate
that
I
just
have
one
question
on
how
we
move
forward,
so
we
had
some.
We
had
some
suggestions
on
maybe
a
longer
longer
extension
period.
A
B
A
Okay,
so
it's
like
we're
involved
we're
involved
in
the
in
the
language
and
what
we're
actually
going
to
be
voting
on.
So
what
we
vote
on
will
be
the
same
as
vpda
award,
yeah,
okay
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over.
I
knew
I
had
another
question
someplace,
but
I'm
a
little
bit
spread
out
here,
so
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
council
council
brock.
C
C
But
it
seems
like
there
are
a
number
of
things
where
there
are
opportunities
to
mitigate
the
harm.
So,
for
instance
like
with
these
two
property
owners,
right,
like
you
know,
there's
probably
a
way
for
someone
to
offer
a
voluntary
open
space
restriction
that
somebody
else
holds
which
prevents
that
that,
like
tax
thing
from
going
up-
but
I
think
the
issue
is-
we
can
solve
that
on
a
bespoke
level
for
two
privately
owned
parcels
in
brunswick
king.
We
can't,
in
a
matter
of
days,
solve
that
for
almost
300
parcels
in
charlestown
right,
and
so
I
just.
C
N
C
L
J
C
Two
year
because
I
think
the
idea
of
hey,
we
got
to
really
be
working
on
this
important
and
then
just
the
one
question
I
wanted
to
ask,
because
it
relates
to
our
second
panel.
This
is,
I
know,
counselor
friend
is
interested
in
the
streets
of
hope.
It's
a
book
that
I
love,
but
there's
a
quote
from
the
newspaper
when
so
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
this.
C
I
asked
you
in
my
questions,
but
folks
may
not
know
that
the
whole
way
that
the
dudley
scott
neighborhood
initiative,
the
sort
of
grandmother
of
the
land,
trust
movement
in
boston
and,
frankly,
nationally
got
its
land
was
through
the
bpda's
eminent
domain
powers
and
the
use
of-
and
I
think,
was
the
first
time
in
the
country
that
those
powers
were
basically
transferred
to
a
non-profit
as
an
agent
and
there's
a
quote
from
the
newspaper
when
that
happened.
That
said,
there's
nothing
new
about
community
residents
in
unifying
to
influence
the
thrust
of
development
in
their
neighborhoods.
C
What
is
very
new,
however,
is
a
community-based
group
that
doesn't
just
have
the
ability
to
influence
development,
but
the
authority
to
control
it
as
well,
and-
and
I
think
this
relates
to
something
counselor
louis
jen
said
at
the
start.
I
do
think
that
the
the
future
of
like,
if
there's
a
way
to
use
some
of
these
public
land,
use
tools.
C
Well,
I
think
there
it
has
to
run
through
real
community
control,
and
you
know
one
of
the
interesting
points
that's
made
by
this
book
is
that
it
was
a
huge
political
effort
by
the
residents
of
roxbury
to
get
the
urban
renewal
tools
used
in
that
way.
In
that
moment
for
dsni,
it's
had
enormous
positive
impacts
over
decades,
but
it's
never
been
replicated
and
now
we
sort
of
have
like
a
burgeoning
land
trust
movement
in
the
city,
and
I
think
I
just
want
to
ask
you
guys
on
record.
C
B
Is
in
principle
now-
and
I
think
it's
worth
acknowledging
and
you
just
did
counselor
buck-
that
the
dsi
is
a
national
model
right
people
come
from
all
over
the
country
to
look
at
the
way
that
that
land
trust
has
succeeded
over
time
and
if
there
are,
as
we
chart
the
future,
the
course
for
the
future.
Here.
If
there
are
ways
we
can
look
to
that
example
and
incorporate
that
into
the
future
planning
we're
very
eager
to
have
those
conversations.
E
B
So
the
majority
of
those
and
happy
to
fall
off
offline
with
some
detailed
numbers,
but
the
the
the
office
of
workforce
development
is
under
the
bpda
they're
eligible
for
community
development
block
grants
and
so
those
those
dollars
pass
through
dnd
and
then
are
transferred
to
the
bpda
to
operate.
Those
workforce.
Development
and
training
programs
and.
E
E
I
think
a
good
idea
could
be
to
automatically
put
this
before
the
council
annually
until
they're
no
longer
necessary
to
have
us
vote
and
reapprove.
I
think
two
years
would
be
too
long.
I
think
mark.
I
think
eight
months
is
too
short,
so
I
think
you
know
we
do
want
to
have
our
eyes
on
this
and
I
think,
but
we
also
do
want
to
be
realistic.
Hopefully
you
know
we
can
make
good
progress
in
that
time,
but
but
yeah.
So
that's
just
my
thoughts.
There.
H
H
B
And
we
enjoyed
a
close
relationship
with
mayor's
office
housing
just
mentioned
earlier.
I
I
worked
there
for
five
years.
I
know
I'm
sealing
our
team
well
we're
very
eager
to
collaborate
together.
I
think
that
with
the
bpd
also
very
eager
to
dispose
of
property
for
100
bucks
in
support
of
100,
affordable
housing,
if
that's
appropriate,
I
think
the
one
I
think,
maybe
one
important
distinction
between
the
bpda's
real
estate
portfolio
and
the
mayor's
office
of
housing-
is
that
our
in
in
general,
our
model
is
ground
leases.
B
We
do
do
some
sales
where
then
we
give
up
ownership
but
as
across
the
board
in
general,
our
model
is
ground
leases
which
retains
public
ownership
of
the
property.
The
model
of
the
mayor's
office
housing,
his
sale
of
real
estate,
which
then
gives
up
public
control
of
real
estate.
Now,
there's
nuances
that
we
could
talk
about
it
more,
but
that
would
I
think
that
would
be
the
major
distinction.
H
H
I'm
looking
forward
to
continuing
work
with
with
you.
I
do
agree
with
consul
bach
on
the
date,
so
I
think
march
31st.
Is
that
what
you
said
council
black
is
good,
and
then
I
would
also
say:
can
we
talk
about,
or
maybe
it's
an
it's,
the
next
hearing
or
working
session?
Can
we
talk
about
details
in
terms
of
what
are
we
looking
for?
How
are
we
checking
in
what
are
our
questions
because
again,
I
just
want
to
measure
it.
I
just
want
to
really
get
results.
Thank
you
so
much
thank.
A
C
And
I
will
just
add
again
on
behalf
of
myself
and
counselor
flynn
that
I
think
we're
looking
for
that
to
be
the
four,
because
there's
significant,
like
issues
with
the
park,
plaza
one
that
have
been
raised
after
our
attention,
both
the
china
train
building
and
then
this
concern
that
basically,
because
it's
the
only
state
plan,
we
it's
an
urban
renewal
plan
that
is
both
city
and
state
that
right
now
it
gives
us
more
lovers
for
a
conversation.
If
the
state
were
to
dispose
of
significant
assets
there
a
thing
which
they
are
doing
around
the
city.
C
A
B
So
we,
the
bpd,
directly
acquired
through
direct
negotiation
with
the
bank
bank.
America
was
the
owner
and
the
bank
of
america
building
the
mayor's
office
of
housing
has
a
program
known
as
the
acquisition
opportunity
program
which
works
with
non-profits
and,
in
some
cases,
for-profit
owners
to
acquire
real
estate.
They
fund
the
acquisition
of
the.
A
B
A
A
A
A
O
Is
this
okay
good
afternoon
my
name
is
minnie
mcmahon,
I'm
here
representing
dudley
street
neighborhood
initiative
and
the
greater
boston
community
land
trust
network.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
before
the
council
today
and
john
smith,
who
is
our
executive
director
sends
his
apologies
for
not
being
able
to
be
here
today.
O
So,
as
you
know,
and
has
been
discussed
a
little
bit
already
today,
dsni
is
a
community
planning
and
organization
organization
in
roxbury
and
north
dorchester,
and
in
addition
to
our
planning
activities,
we
run
a
community
land
trust
called
dudley,
neighbors
incorporated,
which
owns
and
stewards
over
30
acres
of
land
for
multiple
uses
in
perpetuity
on
those
acres.
Today
we
have
226,
affordable
housing
units,
both
rental
and
home
ownership.
O
O
So
today,
as
we
think
about
land
use
tools
and
and
better
ways
to
develop
our
communities,
you
know
just
some
some
suggestions
we
would
like
to
make.
You
know
we
advocate
for
continuing
models
of
co-governance
that
do
rely
on
working
with
you,
the
members
of
the
council,
with
departments
at
the
city
and,
of
course,
with
community-based
organizations
and
local
residents,
and
really
need
to
uplift
long-term
stewardship
strategies,
as
well
as
preservation,
which
has
come
up
quite
a
bit
today.
O
We
want
to
see
rfps
really
focusing
on
community
priorities
from
whatever,
whatever
department
is
issuing
those
rfps
we
want
to
see.
You
know
it
would
be
wonderful
to
see
rfps
requiring
or
you
know,
more
heavily
weighing
proposals
that
work
with
clts,
and
we
would
also
like
to
see
rfps
that
really
prioritize
equity
partnerships
and
encourage
and
reward
diverse
applicants
and
and
groups
of
applicants
who
couldn't
develop
on
their
own.
O
And
then
we
also
would
really
like
to
look
into
with
you,
the
establishment
of
a
municipal
land
bank
to
to
compile
vacant
properties,
problem
service,
surplus
properties
and
and
part
of
that
land
bank.
Having
you
know
a
preference
for
disposition
to
clts,
of
course,
for
appropriate
properties,
and
I
will
just
add
a
couple
more
points
and
then
and
then
I'll
close.
O
We
would
like
to
see
25
more
urban
farm
sites
by
2025
commercial
zoning,
overlays
that
promote
innovation,
incubation
and
flexibility
for
new
local
and
small
business,
home
ownership
and
rental
units
at
rates
that
are
truly
affordable
according
to
neighborhood
conditions,
not
area
median
income
and
a
preference
for
other
shared
equity
models
like
owner
owner
co-ops
or
rental
co-ops
in
rfps
or
somehow
incentivized
or
supported
through
other
city
programs.
Thank
you.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
councillor,
bach,
for
the
invitation
and
you,
mr
chair
and
councillor
luigen,
for
for
co-sponsoring
this
councillor.
It's
nice
to
be
here.
It's
my
first
time
sitting.
I
think
in
this
in
this
room
I
may
have
sat
in
every
other
seat
in
this
room
before
but
to
be
quick.
I
know.
What's
your
name,
josh
thakum
executive,
director
of
housing,
ford
massachusetts,
I
want
to
be
quick.
K
There
is
an
urgency,
and
there
has
been
for
as
long
as
I
can
remember,
to
create
more
affordable
housing
at
all
levels.
Create
affordable
home
ownership
opportunities,
something
that
I
think
is
often
not
at
the
forefront
of
the
conversation.
We
need
to
be
talking
about
rental
and
home
ownership
opportunities
and
community
land
trusts,
obviously,
are
a
proven
method
to
do
that
and
we
would
certainly
advocate
for
when
the
city
is
disposing
of
property
or
in
some
cases,
building
on
top
of
existing
city
infrastructure.
K
I
know
you,
mr
chair,
have
often
talked
about
building
above
libraries
or
schools
for
affordable
housing
and
senior
housing
over
the
years.
I
think
it's
incredibly
important
and
something
that
in
most
cases,
won't
cost
any
money
for
the
city
of
boston.
It
could
be
a
partnership
with
non-profit
or
for-profit
developers
looking
at
tax
incentives,
but
there
needs
to
be
a
sense
of
urgency.
K
K
Maybe
20
months
at
this
point
is
when
talking
to
developers
either
non-profit
for-profit
community
development
corporations
whomever
it
is
looking
for
predictability
in
the
city
process,
so
that
they
can
plan
out
what
is
feasible,
how
much
affordability,
how
many
units
can
be
created
and
that's
something
that's
very
much
in
the
power
in
this
building
to
do.
I
think,
with
the
direction
with
that
sense
of
urgency
to
do
something
we're
at
a
minimum.
We're
always
looking
at
several
years
out,
you
know,
building
permitting
planning
having
community
input
on
something,
but
we
have
the
resources.
K
We
have
a
lot
of
city-owned
land
and
that
goes
from
large
parcels
to
you
know
smaller
parcels
in
the
neighborhoods
that
can
hold
single-family
or
two
or
three
family
homes,
making
changes,
making
zoning
and
planning
policy.
That
makes
it
easier
for
folks
to
build
on
those
parcels
to
attach
long-term
affordability
to
them
to
create
homeownership
opportunities
is
critical,
so
I
applaud
you
for
holding
this
hearing.
I
thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
here
and
to
join
you,
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
this
conversation.
K
I
have
many
ideas
on
this
front.
I
know
you
all
do
as
well,
but
there
is
something
here:
there
is
an
ability
in
city
hall,
in
boston,
city,
hall
and
city
and
town
halls
across
the
commonwealth
to
take
important
steps
more
funding.
Absolutely
it
is
important
on
this
front,
but
there's
a
lot
we
can
do
in
a
revenue
neutral
way,
that's
going
to
create
significant,
more
affordability
in
housing
across
the
city
of
boston.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
N
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak.
I'm
lydia
lowe,
I'm
executive
director
of
the
chinatown
community,
land
trust,
and
I
wanted
to
say
that
you
know
many
people
are
not
aware,
but
actually
the
first
use
of
urban
renewal
in
boston
was
not
the
west
end.
It
was
chinatown
and
the
new
york
streets,
the
adjacent
new
york
streets
area,
which
was
documented
in
mel
king's
chain
of
novel
chain
of
change-
and
you
know
urban
renewal
and
the
bra
have
really
been
a
double-edged
sword
for
chinatown.
N
On
the
one
hand,
we
had
the
so-called
slum
clearance
we
had
land
turned
over
to
the
highways
for
construction.
We
had
institutional
expansion
and
then
luxury
development,
but
on
the
other
hand,
hundreds-
and
you
know,
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
affordable
housing
units
also
were
related
to
are
related
to
the
use
of
urban
renewal
powers
and
have
been
in
fact
some
of
the
developments
that
have
anchored
chinatown
over
the
decades.
N
So
over,
like
30
years
of
fighting
the
bra
around
community
control
and
development,
I've
started
to
learn
more
about
urban
renewal
tools
and
started
to
realize
that
you
know
it's
not
so
much
the
tools
that
are
the
problem.
The
problem
is
power
and
accountability
and
who
is
doing
that?
Who
is
making
those
decisions?
N
So
I
think
you
know
now,
as
the
director
of
a
community
land
trust
our
goal
of
the
community.
Land
trust
is
community
governance,
and
I
think
that
if
community
governance
can
be
tied
and
some
of
these
tools
can
be
used
to
actually
increase
the
the
possibility
of
community
governance,
that's
where
we
can
make
a
real
transformative
impact
on
the
city,
and
we
were
formed
inspired
by
the
experience
of
the
dudley
street
neighborhood,
where
you
know
where
that
neighborhood
has
stabilized
so
much
as
the
rest
of
boston
has
been
undergoing
a
displacement
crisis.
N
So
I
want
to
speak
to
just
a
few
examples
of
you
know
how
we
could
maybe
use
these
tools
or
how
we
could
think
a
little
bit
more
proactively
to
really
bring
to
really
stabilize
our
neighborhoods,
because
it's
almost
been
like
a
given
that
you
know
this
is
great.
You
know
the
dsni
was
given
the
power
of
urban
renewal.
N
N
But
again
it's
a
double-edged
sword,
because
I
think
when
the
bpda
is
involved
in
public
parcels,
then
there
is
much
more
attention
to
community
planning,
there's
much
more
attention
to
community
priorities
and
really
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
use
the
public
land
for
the
public
good.
But
when
the
bpda
is
in
charge
of
development
review
processes
on
private
land,
then
private
it
seems
like
there's
a
lot
of
unwanted
private
development.
That's
still
happening
so,
but
in
terms
of
the
examples
so,
for
example,
in
chinatown
there's
parcel
r1,
which
is
a
public
parcel.
N
N
N
We
would
like
to
see
that
building
be
under
community
control
again
and
really
try
to
make
that
vision.
A
reality
we
have.
You
know.
People
think
that
chinatown
is
all
either
is
mostly
luxury
development
now
or
the
old
properties.
But
you
may
be
surprised
to
know
there
are
buildings
in
chinatown
that
have
been
boarded
up
for
20
years.
Why
cannot
the
bpda,
you
know,
use
those
powers
to
move
this
property.
That's
you
know,
that's
been
boarded
up
all
this
time.
N
N
You
know:
is
there
an
opportunity
to
use
as
we
move
out
of
urban
renewal,
and
you
know
into
the
sun
setting
period
to
use
those
towers
to
move
these
properties
into
tenant
or
community
ownership
so
that
there
can
be
affordability
not
just
for
50
years,
but
in
perpetuity
these?
These
are
all
important
questions
that
are
very
real
for
chinatown,
that
we
can
connect
to
specific
properties
but
which
I
think
are
examples
of
what
can
be
done
in
other
neighborhoods
across
the
city.
Thank
you.
C
So
I
want
to
thank
molly
and
then
also
wanted
to
express
thanks
to
boston
harbor
now,
which
spoke
to
me
extensively
in
relation
to
this
docket
and
ultimately
weren't
able
to
be
here
today.
But
they
they
also
sort
of
raised
the.
What
wasn't
addressed
on
the
panel,
which
is
the
kind
of
like
climate
mitigation
type
impacts
where
we
may
need
creative
land
assembly
approaches
and-
and
you
know,
and
really
thinking
about.
What's
the
benefit
of
the
whole
community.
C
There's
a
few
places
where
the
city
of
boston
has
land
that
it
knows
is
a
piece
of
that
puzzle.
So
I
know
you
know
down
in
councillor
baker's
district,
obviously
talking
about
moakley
park
as
a
berm
and
sort
of
imagining
it
as
a
protection
for
the
surrounding
public
housing,
communities
and
neighborhood.
C
But
but
you
know
it's
come
up
increasingly
that,
especially
in
the
places
where
our
waterfront
is
dispersed
among
a
large
number
of
private
owners
that
some
of
those
like
larger
community
interests
are
going
to
need,
going
to
need
real
stewardship
and
attention
and
may
involve
some
of
these
tools.
So
I
just
I
wanted
to
thank
them
for
raising
that
set
of
points
to
me
and
and
apologize
to
molly
that
we
weren't
able
to
have
around
the
panel.
C
I
guess
just
you
know
quickly,
because
I
know
everyone's
been
here
a
long
time
if
you
could
give
a
little
bit
of
an
example,
many
of
like
what
we
mean
when
we
talk
about
like
community
governance
of
land
and
sort
of,
maybe
just
an
instance
of
how
in
dsni
that
has
actually
looked,
because
I
mean
I
totally
agree
what
lydia
just
said
like.
I
love
the
idea
that,
where
we
come
out
on
the
park
plaza
vis-a-vis,
the
china
trade
building
is
that
we
transfer
it
to
some
kind
of
community
control.
C
Since
that's
really
the
that's
really
the
interest
that
we,
the
city,
have
seen
for
that
building,
anyways
and
but,
as
we
all
know,
there's
a
difference
between
the
city,
doing
something
on
behalf
of
the
community
versus
the
community
kind
of
having
that.
But
I
think
it'd
be
great
to
hear
a
bit
about
that
and
then
yeah
and
then
josh
I
mean
just
think.
If
there's,
if
there's
any,
I
I
don't
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
any
example
you
can
think
of
of
kind
of
the
west
end.
C
Library
is
a
great
one.
I
would
love
to
see
as
folks
know,
significant
housing
density
on
top
of
the
redeveloped
library,
but
just
you
know,
places
that
you've
seen
like
significant
housing
development
done
in
partnership
with
a
city
in
partnership
with
public
land
or
like
any.
You
know
just
any
examples
that
we
could
copy
or
think
about.
If
you
got
any
that'd
be
great,
but
many
I
don't
know
and
lydia
as
well.
C
If
there's
anything
on
on
community
governance
and
sort
of
what
you
dream
of
when
you
say
that,
just
because
I
think
for
those
of
us
who,
for
you
all
in
the
community,
land
trust
movement
and
for
those
of
us
who
have
the
pleasure
of
talking
to
you,
we
talk
about
that
a
lot.
But
I'm
not
sure
if
everyone
watching
the
hearing
will
really
know
what
that
means.
O
O
The
mayor's
office
of
housing
presents
to
this
committee
and
together,
actually
crafts,
the
language
of
the
rfp.
So
you
know
a
number
of
processes
are
protracted
of
that.
That's
that
happens
and
because
of
covid.
So
there's
one
parcel
on
on
dudley
street,
currently
owned
by
the
mayor's
office
of
housing
years
ago.
We
did
a
community
process
around
okay.
What
do
people
want
to
see
here?
O
O
O
We
went
through
an
extensive
community
process
to
go
through
yeah.
What?
What
do
people
want
to
see
in
this
building?
Basically,
this
there's
a
20
000
square
foot.
Building
it
needs
to
be
redeveloped,
we
own
it
we're
a
community
land
trust.
What
can
we
do
with
this,
and
and
and
this
actual
site
is
part
of
a
larger
redevelopment
of
oppam's
corner
that
involves
land
owned
by
the
bpda
and
landowned
by?
I
don't
know
if
it's
public
facilities
or
dnd,
so
so
we've
that
that
the
outcome
of
that
remains
to
be
seen.
O
But
those
are
examples
of
like
this-
the
sustainable
development
committee
having
this
review
power,
recommendation
power
and
also
really
like
design
process
power
with
both
the
city
and
the
developer
when
they
really
push
back
against
the
developer,
if
they
want
to
see
changes
with
the
proposals
and
then
with
the
land
and
the
assets
that
we
actually
that
we
already
own
like
this
citizens,
bank
building.
Okay,
what
do
we
want
to
see
built
here
and
how
do
we?
You
know
we
ourselves?
K
K
Sure
you
know,
I
think
one
that
always
comes
to
mind
you
know
is
in
in
chicago
they've
done
that,
usually
with
schools
or
not
usually,
but
on
more
than
one
occasion
with
schools,
it's
been
a
way
to
get
private
financing
to
build.
You
know
a
primary
school,
a
k-8
school
with
usually
housing
above
it.
I
think
that's
something
that
would
be
great
in
the
city
of
boston
and,
I
think,
any
sort
of
public
infrastructure
on
any
sort
of
public
land.
K
K
You
know
aesthetically
neighborhood
wise
to
add
a
few
floors
of
housing
above
a
library
above
a
public
publicly
owned
land
and
obviously
the
city
itself
is
not
going
to
be
the
builder
but
working
in
conjunction
with
so
many
of
the
non-profit
or
for-profit
developers
who
are
in
the
space
and
putting
out
rfps,
which
you
know
happen
all
the
time
of
course,
and
I
was
just
reading
in
the
paper
today
about
a
large
one.
You
know
parcel
three,
that's
an
enormous
one,
but
it
shouldn't
all
be
that
complex.
K
Let's
turn
them
around
in
six
months,
figure
out
who's
going
to
do
it
and
then
obviously
have
that
community
planning
process
get
the
input
from
the
neighborhood
from
local
civic
associations
from
elected
officials
on
what
should
go
there.
But
a
lot
of
this
also
should
can,
and
in
my
view
and
my
organization's
view
done
through
zoning
and
saying
you
know,
we
need
to
do
some
significant
rezoning
of
the
city
make
a
lot
of
this.
K
As
of
right,
I
hear-
and
it's
anecdotal
so
take
it
for
what
you
will,
but
that
a
lot
of
the
smaller
parcels
that
that
dnd
or
I'm
sorry,
the
mayor's
office
of
housing,
that's
the
new
formal
term.
It's
gonna.
Take
me
a
while
to
get
used
to
that
is
is
putting
out.
There
is
just,
is
very
challenging
for
people
to
build
and
bid
on
even
for
those
hundred
dollar
fees,
because
there's
a
lack
of
predictability
on
what
can
be
built
there
even
with
the
affordable.
K
I'm
not
talking
about
the
affordability
covenants
being
a
challenge,
it's
that
you
know
for
one
family
or
two
or
three
family
house,
then
potentially
go
through
a
year
and
a
half
two
years,
three
years
of
reviews.
So
it's
something
that
I
think
this
body
has
a
real
ability
to
encourage
and
direct
making
it
more
as
of
right,
not
just
getting
the
the
land
or
the
property
in
the
hands
of
folks
who
are
going
to
build.
Affordable
housing
is
not
it's
not
the
end
of
the
line.
It's
not
the
end
of
the
duty
of
the
city.
K
E
A
That
just
quickly,
then
we'll
go
to
lydia,
so
the
best
model
that
I
saw
that
that
we
did
that
was
was
the
nhi
model
where,
where
they
took
dnd
took
city
lots
they
they
they
packaged
them
together,
and
then
they
went
to
the
developers
and
said
this
is
what
we
want
built.
So
it
cut
out
the
whole
it
cut
out
that
process.
I
I
I
don't
really
want
to
go
to
a
model
that
is
well
I'd,
be
I'd,
be
hesitant
to
go
to
a
model
that
that
would
be
as
of
right.
A
I
mean
I
understand,
and
I've
been
through
hundreds
of
of
planning
processes
and
in
some
of
them
two
years,
some
of
them
eight
years.
You
know,
but
I
think
it's
it's
it's
in
that
model
and
and
we
need
to
include
the
private,
the
private,
private
money,
private
development
fields,
corner
library.
I
pushed
for
units
above
that
for
years
we
finally
brought
it
out
to
the
community.
They
blocked
it
and
fields.
Corner
is
one
of
the
areas
that
really
needs
needs,
affordable
housing.
A
N
N
E
I
think
you
want
to
thank
minnie,
josh
and
lydia
for
giving
us
so
much
of
your
time.
I
just
have
one
question
for
something
you
said
really
sparked
my
interest
in
understanding
how
we
can
be
more
creative
here
as
a
city.
He
said
that
there's
an
mou,
the
city
regarding
the
dudley
triangle
regarding
this
position
of
land
before
any
action
is
taken
with
the
disposition
of
land.
The
dsni
dsni
is
consulted
and
brought
into
that
process.
E
I'm
curious
to
learn
more
about
whether
that's
just
is
that
for
public
land
or
is
it
also
for
private
land
and
if
it
doesn't
include
private
land,
because
I'd
be
really
curious.
If
it
includes
like,
if
you
are
able
to
have
some
say
over
like
privately
owned
land
and
what
happens
in
that
area,
because
that
would
be
dope.
But
if
not,
do
you
have
ideas
on
how
we
can
actually
also
apply
that
to
private
land.
O
Yeah,
no,
I
love
yeah.
I
that's
what
I've
been
thinking
about.
I
would
like
to
learn
more
about
bpda's
powers
and
other
powers
to
think
through
that.
So
my
understanding
is
at
the
time
of
the
eminent
domain
agreement.
The
city
said:
you
know
that
the
power
of
eminent
domain
was
granted
and
the
city
made
a
pledge
to
dispose
of
publicly
held
land
to
dsni
to
dni
at
that
time
and
either
at
that
time
or
subsequently.
This
agreement
was
made
that
well,
I'm
thinking
now
that
so
so
we
currently
there
are
three.
O
There
are
three
moh
owned
parcels,
city-owned
parcels
in
the
deadly
triangle,
which
is
where
the
eminent
domain
agreement
was
that
remain
so
because
of
that
original
agreement.
We
know
that
we
have.
We
have
a
right
to
to
take
over
and
develop
that
land.
So
so
so
we
are
yeah.
We
we
speak
closely
with
moh
as
as
rfps
are
getting
developed.
We
help
run
the
community
processes
once
those
three
one
of
those
parcels
we
actually
do
own,
but
it's
still
in
pre-development
two
of
the
parcels.
O
The
city
owns
what
we
expect
to
take
over
once
those
are
in
use
and
developed
work.
That's
that's
it
for
for
public
land.
As
far
as
we
understand
that
that
would
be
up
for
disposition
any
you
know
anytime
soon,
so
we
don't
have
yeah.
So
any
private
development
that's
happening
in
the
triangle:
they
don't
they
don't
have
to
come
through
us,
the
city.
We
have
a
very
good
relationship
with
mayor's
office
of
housing.
O
So
if
you
know
officers
there
are
in
communication
with
developers
who
are
interested
in
developing
they'll,
say:
oh,
you
really
need
to
go.
Talk
to
dsni
and
they'll.
Send
people
to
us
to
go
through
that
our
sustainable
development
committee
process
to
get
a
recommendation,
because,
if
someone's
you
know
if
they
want
to
build
something
new
or
they're,
applying
for
a
variance
with
zba
or
whatever
they
want
to
have
a
letter
from
dsni
that
says.
O
Look
the
community
supports
us,
but
I
I
don't
think
it's
required
that
private
projects
come
through
us
and
I
don't
I
don't
know
the
like.
I
like
that
question
like
well
how?
How
can
we
encourage
that?
I
one
one
thing:
I've
noticed
about
working
with
the
bpda
is
you
know
we
don't
have
the
same
sort
of
like
partnership,
close
working
relationship
with
them
that
we
have
with
moh.
O
So
we
don't
necessarily
hear
about
projects
that
are
happening
in
our
catchment
area.
We
sometimes
have
to
kind
of
chase
them
and
say
hey
like
can
you
let
us
know
about
this
meeting
or
wait
a
minute.
We
need
to
extend
the
public
comment
period,
we're
just
finding
out
about
it.
So
we've
definitely
identified
the
need
to
like
try
to
improve
that
relationship
or
those
lines
of
communication
in
terms
of
like
tools
and
rights
around
private
development.
I
would
love
to
talk
more
with
you
with
the
council
about
that
and
understand
options
better.
A
Yeah
so
like
with
the
s-
and
I
have
some
of
them
in
my
district-
if,
if
someone's
looking
to
come
and
develop
them
in
my
district,
I
would
send
them
to
dsni,
if
they're
with
within
there
and
if
they
don't.
If
they
don't
come
to
me,
they're
on
they're
unable
to
go
to
dsni,
they
don't
get
my
supporter.
They
don't
get
the
sni
support,
which
is
why,
when
we
talk
a
lot
about
when
we're
we're
talking
about
rezoning
the
city
rezoning,
the
city
is
going
to
become
about
what
josh
had
said.
Yeah
you.
A
You
now
went
to
apostles
that
all
this
is
as
of
right.
You
know
there
was
a
two
family
there,
it's
nine
units,
so
basically
that
cuts
us
out
of
it.
When
we
have
that
rezone.
The
city
talk
you
know
like
so
in
roxbury
they're,
not
going
to
go
talk
to
tonya
anderson
bananas,
they're
not
going
to
come
to
me
in
my
district.
A
So
I
get
concerned
when,
when
we
talk
about
just
blanket
rezoning,
the
city,
you
know
because
the
zoning's
in
place,
so
they
come
in
front
of
me
and
you
nds
and
I
and
those
sorts
of
things
and
there's
quirks
and
all
of
it,
but
back
to
you
back
to
you
josh.
I
think
you
know
what
no
I'm
going
on.
I
want
to.
D
E
E
No,
but
the
point
that
I
wanted
to
mention
and
the
things
that
I
like
to
think
about
in
my
head
are
like
what
does
it
look
like
to
use
like
the
right
of
first
refusal
and
to
think
about
what
rights
we
give
groups
and
what
rights
the
city
can
have,
whether
it's
an
a
privately
held
parcel
right
like
what
like?
How
do
we
think
creatively
about
who
has
the
you
know?
Do
we
take
precedent
over
a
private
owner
who's
interested?
Can
we
think
creatively
about
about
that?
E
And-
and
I
take
your
point,
but
those
are
sort
of
the
the
things
that
I
have
going
like.
Where
can
we
exert
our
power
as
a
city
or
or
in
partnership
with
community
groups
to
allow
them,
even
if
it's
paying
fair
market
value
right
to
have
and
to
be
stewards
of
you
know
privately
held
land
to
put
that
into
a
community
lands?
I
think
lydia
actually
also
alluded
to
this
too
right,
like
the
beat
pda's
ability
like
work.
E
Why
isn't
the
bpda
working
with
the
chinatown
community
land
trust
to
help
them
acquire
a
private
like
a
sliver
of
private
land
so
that
the
whatever
is
developed
out
of
p1
could
be,
could
be
larger?
And
so
those
are
the
things
that
I
am
very
curious
about
like.
How
can
we
exercise
power
there
not
to
be
a
completely
you
know?
Also,
you
know
we
could
do
it
on
a
fair
market
value.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
completely.
You
know,
community
everything
completely
socialistic.
E
N
And
that,
actually
is
what
what
the
the
bpda,
what
the
city
did
back
in
the
90s.
You
know
when
the
power
was
given
to
dsni
ds
and
I
didn't
just
get
public
land.
They
got
the
right
to
take
private
land
by
eminent
domain,
yeah
that
private
land
that
was
abandoned
and
was
not
being
taken
care
of
by
the
owners.
N
O
Can
I
add
just
a
couple
thoughts
that
you
know
one
thing
we're
advocating
for
as
a
network
with
and
with
this
wider
coalition
is
the
tenant's
opportunity
to
purchase
act,
which
is
a
statewide
enabling
legislation
that
you
know
what
would
be
that
would
help
tenants
become
owners.
It
would
also
just
help
tenants
stay
in
place
if
they
then
pass
their
right
to
us
to
purchase
the
building.
Of
course,
we
need
revenue.
O
But
of
course,
there's
so
many
there's
so
many
more
right
and
and
right
now
we're
kind
of
just
like
statistically
a
drop
in
the
bucket
in
terms
of
need,
but
yeah.
I
think
I
think
you
know
mapping
at-risk
at-risk
properties
and
and
really
starting
to
think
about
how
much
money
would
it
take
to
secure
like
a
significant
amount
of
properties
in
the
next
five
years
in
boston,
and
where
could
that
come
from
is
is
a
project
we're
looking
at.
K
Can
I
quickly
add,
I
know
counselor
you've
got
questions
I
think
councillor
louisiana,
you're
saying
I
I
you
know
the
bpda
certainly
already
has
that
authority.
In
my
opinion,
I
believe
the
city
also
has
an
inherent
eminent
domain
authority,
paying
fair
market
value
and
what
that
question
is
can
often
be
prolonged
and
litigated.
But
what
I
would
I
would
just
add
on
top
of
that,
is
that,
as
we,
you
know
we're
talking
about
city-owned
parcels
already
like
there's
a
lot.
K
That's
already
there,
that's
like
at
our
fingertips
that
we
don't
have
we
that
the
city
would
not
have
to
litigate
and
pay
for,
and
I
think
what
you're,
I
think,
your
comments
about
figuring
out
and
mapping.
Some
of
these
other
opportunities
are
a
good
idea
from
a
planning
perspective
and
saying,
if
you
know
something
sparks
up,
and
we
could
do
something
incredible
with
it
and
it's
worth
both
the
actual
dollars
financially
but
also,
what's
you
know,
I'm
not
an
eminent
domain
attorney,
but
what
I
understand
is
often
a
protracted
and
expensive.
K
A
Yeah
and
then
that
begs,
you
know
what
I
talked
about
earlier,
that
nhi
model
I
mean
we
have
a
hundred
lots
that
we
could
use
that
nhi
model
and
not
just
as
single-family
shoe
families
but
put
40
units
on
places
and
turn
it
over
for
for
home
ownership.
I
mean
it's
it.
We
talk
about
affordability,
affordability,
but
unless
you're
getting
in
there
and
you
own
that
unit
forget
about
it.
It's
still
not
total
stability
there.
So
council,
fernandez,
anderson.
H
Okay,
so
I
really
in
mr
chair,
I
really
am
I'm
interested
in
this
nhi
model.
I
don't
know
much
about
it,
so
we'd
love
to
talk
to
you
offline
about
that
hi
minnie,
nice
meeting
you
I've
been
talking
with
mr
smith
and
really
excited
about
the
work
that
you
guys
are
doing
there
and
collaborating
with
you.
I'm
interested
in
understanding
when
you
are
built
creating
affordable
home
ownerships.
O
Well,
so
speaking
of
the
nhi,
the
neighborhood
homes
initiative
so
histo
historically,
yes,
all
of
our
units
have
been
are
deed,
restricted,
the
highest,
the
last
the
in
the
most,
the
most
recent
developments
we
have
had.
I
think
we
have
two
units
total
at
100,
affordable
at
100
ami
most
are
at
80
and
then
some
are
at
60
percent,
ami
and
they're
all
deed
restricted.
You
know,
99-year
that
built
built-in
equity
formula
resale
formula.
O
The
current
we
do
have
through
the
nhi
program
in
the
pipeline,
16
units
of
home
ownership,
12
of
them
will
be
affordable,
enrolled
onto
the
clt.
Four
of
them
will
just
be
sold
off
at
market
rate,
and
that
is
in
order
to
make
the
deal
possible.
So
I
think
this
is
the
first
time
that
we're
doing
that.
A
O
O
So
not
you
know
one
thing
we
do.
We
we
do
have
been
looking
at
and
sort
of
paying
attention
to
this.
What
seems
to
be
a
wider
conversation
around
yeah?
How
do
we
build
generational
wealth?
How
do
we
close
a
racial
wealth
gap?
Homeownership
has
been
a
huge
tool
and
also
destructive
force
as
well.
When
it
comes
to
equity
and
and
economic
parity.
O
We,
you
know
part
of
the
ethos
I
would
say,
of
the
clt
movement
of
rclt
is
upholding
community
wealth,
upholding
community
stabilization
and
also
wanting
to
say
that
while
equity
is
limited,
it
is
a
shared
equity
model.
So
folks
are
you
know
people
are
accruing
equity
over
time,
but
it
is
not
at
this.
You
know
it's
not
at
market
rate
and
yeah,
so
we
we
are
certainly.
O
Part
of
that
conversation
around
like
yeah.
How
do
we
like?
How
do
we
balance
the
goals
of
individual
like
family,
generational
wealth,
building
and
neighborhood
stability
and
community
wealth
building,
but
I
would
love
to
speak
with
you
more
about
that
and
hear
more
about.
What's
behind
that
question
and
your
own
thoughts
too,.
O
For
like
so
for
the
dni,
the
the
building
in
uppam's
corner
that
we
own,
which
was
formerly
the
citizens
bank
building
that
was
part
of
the
re,
you
know
sort
of
like
a
multi
multi
lot.
It
is
part
of
this
multi-lot
multi-owner
redevelopment
process
in
upwarms
around
the
arts
and
innovation
district.
So
our
lot
has
been
that
the
rfp
for
our
lot
was
crafted
in
conjunction
with
and
parallel
to,
the
rfps
for
the
two
city-owned
lots,
and
that
was
over.
O
O
The
crafting
of
rfps
for
like
the
site,
you
know
these
two
particular
sites
on
dudley
street
yeah,
those,
I
think
you
know
the
rfps.
The
stipulations
have
to
be.
Obviously
it
has
to
be
within
whatever
the
zoning
is
and
the
city
might
have
an
idea
about
what
they
want
to
see
there.
So
they're
like
I
don't
know
how
wide
open
those
when
you're,
really
starting
at
the
beginning,
how
wide
open
those
processes
are
but
yeah.
I
yeah.
H
There
are
thank
you.
There
are
a
lot
of
lots
that
are
not
necessarily
buildable
because
of
size,
but
opportunities
to
create
those
urban
farms
or
small
food
access,
spaces
incubators,
smaller
incubators-
maybe
you
know
food
trucks,
parking
spaces,
mobile
boutiques.
There
are
so
many
ideas
and
there
are
so
many
entrepreneurs
and
already
existing
small
businesses
that
are
getting
pushed
out
out
of
brick
and
mortar.
H
And
I'm
look
I'm
wondering
if
the
rfi,
the
rfps
process
can
include
community
in
discussing
how
that
maybe
dsni
would
then
support
community
in
activating
those
spaces.
So
beyond
what
you're
doing
now,
but
accessing
smaller
lots
in
district
seven,
I
can
speak
for
district
seven
and
how
we
can
partner
in
doing
that
right.
H
So
that's
that's
where
I
was
taking
that
in
terms
of
our
rfps
and
looking
at
the
process
and
making
it
accessible
means
that
if
bpda
has
money
or
if
the
city
can
we
can
figure
out
a
way
then
putting
in
money
so
that
there
are
grants
that
folks
can
access
in
order
to
activate
those
spaces
josh.
If
I
I
mean
I,
I
understand
your
zoning
thing
about.
You
know.
Building
up-
and
I
I
I
actually
agree-
I
think
we
need
to
build
up.
H
And
so
you
have
you
know
single
parents
with
sickly
children,
more
disparities,
more
issues
that
have
to
access
their
car
at
the
drop
of
a
dime.
So
my
concern,
then,
is
while
we
build
up
that
we
address
the
families
that
continue
to
need
cars
or
are
in
transition
to
just
you
know,
riding
a
bike
or
jumping
on
the
tee,
and
I
think
that
the
city
and
the
state
both
have
a
bad
habit
of
speaking
for
the
marginalized
community
and
telling
us
what
we
need
and
what's
good
for
us
without
any
concern.
H
K
Yeah,
so
I
can
certainly
address
that.
I
want
to
after
the
chair's
comments
on
that.
I
think
when
you're
rezoning
it's
a
long-term
involved
community
process.
You
know
it's
what
it
takes
out
of
the
equation,
though,
is
the
one-off
battles.
It's
the
one-offs
where
someone
takes
one
of
those
neighborhood
homes,
the
nhi.
You
know
a
lot
of
acronyms
takes
some
of
the
city-owned
parcels
that
are
being
put
out
for
a
hundred
dollars.
K
You
know
purchases,
one
of
them
and
then
is
in
a
going
with
the
neighborhood
association
and
the
zba
to
build
a
two
or
three
family
house
every
time.
Now
what
I,
in
my
view,
what
what
could
work
is
having
a
thoughtful?
Maybe
it's
a
two
year,
maybe
it's
a
three
year
process.
Maybe
it's
probably
hundreds
of
community
meetings
that
are
going
to
say
this
is
what
makes
sense
height
wise
use,
wise
parking
wise
for
each
neighborhood,
but
to
making
it
not
ad
hoc.
H
K
Meetings
today
quickly
about
you
know
some
of
the
things
that
I
sparked
in
my
mind
when
you
were
talking
about
home
ownership
and
building
wealth,
and
because
this
is
about
using
city
resources
in
particular,
you
know
something
that
I
think
you
know
is
worth
examining.
Is
the
city
on
a
limited
level,
and
this
would
require
you
know
talking
with
the
cfo
and
corporation
council,
of
course,
as
acting
as
sort
of
a
guarantor
for
people
who
are
looking
for
mortgage
loans.
Almost
a
cosigner
say.
K
A
guarantor
or
almost
a
co-signer
for
folks
on
loans-
and
this
is
something
that
you
know,
needs
to
be
obviously
significantly
fleshed
out,
both
from
a
dollars
and
cents
perspective
and
from
a
legal
perspective.
But
the
city
of
boston
has
significant
borrowing.
Capacity,
has
a
stellar
credit
rating
and
I'm
not
saying
we
max
out
the
credit
card
so
to
speak,
but
thinking
about
some
sort
of
pilot
program.
At
least
that
could
do
that.
You
know
along
similar
lines,
working
with
folks
on
on
supplementing
pmi
or
private
mortgage
insurance.
Oh.
K
I
absolutely
I
absolutely
am,
and
and
and
helping
people
with
that
is,
is
critical,
because
that
is
usually
several
hundred
dollars
a
month
on
folks,
first
time
home
buyers,
and
we
need
to
be
looking
at
city
resources
for
that
too.
It's
not
just
all
about
building
new
things,
getting
public
land
we
we
can
be
creative.
This
is
a
smart
city,
there's
a
lot
of
smart
people
in
this
building
with
a
lot
of
resources
and
we
can
tackle
issues
of
own
home
ownership,
increased
housing
capacity
at
the
same
time,.
M
K
No
I'm
so
I
maybe
I'm
taking
a
little
too
broad
of
a
view
on
public
resources
in
this
in
this
discussion,
but
you
know
putting
it
whether
it's
in
dnd,
I
don't
want
to
say
you
know
which
department
needs
to
do
it
but
saying
the
city
has
a
stellar
credit
rating.
The
city
of
boston
has
done
a
great
job
over
the
past
decades
in
doing
that,
because
we
don't
max
it
out
so
to
speak,
but
do
thoughtful
capital
planning.
K
K
Don't
want
to
be
overextending
ourselves,
don't
want
to
run
into
any
trouble,
but
it's
something
it's
a
conversation
that
that
could
happen.
You
I
think,
would
need
you
know
the
city's
bond
lawyers.
You
know
the
cfo's
office,
certainly
this
body
involved
in
it,
but
but
it's
something
that
you
know,
especially
as
interest
rates,
are
rising
right
now,
especially
if
it's
being
more
challenging
for
people
to
get
home
loans.
K
To
think
about
that,
and
again
it's
a
as
as
I
like
to,
I
know
it
says
before
I'm
trying
to
think
of
as
many
revenue
neutral
ways
to
address
the
housing
process.
Yes,
we
need
more
money,
we
need
more
resources,
we
need
to
build
more
low
income,
very
low
income
housing,
but
things
that
are
not
going
to
cost
a
lot
of
money.
There
are
a
lot
there's
also
a
lot
in
that
toolbox
too.
A
K
C
And
I
just
want
to
address
a
couple
of
things
that
have
come
up
here,
because
I
think
this
is.
This
is
like,
what's
so
important
about
bringing
these
conversations
together,
the
one
that
we
had
earlier
and
the
one
that
we're
having
now
is
that
you
know
what's
what's
really
interesting
and
unusual
about
the
way
that
the
bpdas
from
renewal
powers
were
created
by
state
statute.
C
Is
that
a
ton
of
the
things
that
the
city
can
do
the
city
can
only
do
for
municipal
purposes
and
the
bpda
has
this
like
broader
remit,
where
he
can
do
things
and,
and
that
is
it
lydia
used
the
word
a
double-edged
sword,
because
it's
meant
that
historically,
they
were
able
to
use
it
for
the
economic
benefit
of
private
actors.
But
the
really
interesting
thing
is
that
when
you
talk
about
doing
something
for
the
economic
benefit
of
boston's
lowest
income
communities,
the
bpda's
tools
are
actually
better
for
doing
that
than
the
city
of
boston's
tools.
L
C
C
But
those
private
entities
are
our
communities
or
there
are
land
trusts
right,
like
you
know,
as
a
way
for
our
private
entities,
to
sort
of
form,
corporately
and
and
to
counselor
counselor
baker's
point
about
sort
of
like
leverage
and
hooks
right.
I
mean
I
think
zoning
has
been
historically
a
way
that
in
boston,
we've
brought
the
community
perspective
in,
but
one
of
the
reasons
that
there
are
folks
like
in
park
plaza,
who
are
concerned
about
us
not
giving
up
the
renewal
district.
E
I
C
Area
like
that's
what,
basically,
within
these
areas,
it's
very
hard
for
private
entities
to
act
without
coming
and
working
with
us,
and
so
that's
like
another
level
of
of
kind
of
like
public
level
leverage
and
engagement.
It's
frankly,
the
whole
reason
that
the
state's
gonna
have
to
really
do
business
with
us
on
the
hurley
building,
which
otherwise
they
would
probably
just
sell
the
highest
bidder
and
do
what
they
would
with,
because
because
it's
in
a
renewable
district-
and
we
have
these
hooks
on
it.
So
I
just
think
that
it's
I
exact
you
know.
C
I
think
it's
really
interesting-
that
we
have,
I
think,
a
very
different
moment
in
terms
of
mayor
and
council
in
terms
of
what
we
want
to
do,
and
we
have
this
toolbox
that
has
not,
with
the
exception
of
the
dsni
case,
necessarily
been
used
in
a
lot
of
these
ways,
but
which
has
the
ability
to
be
used
in
these
ways.
So
I
I
am
really
interested
in
that.
C
I
would
love
to
see
us
do
more
with
community
land
trust
with
building
social
and
public
housing,
with
the
fact
that
some
of
that
housing
may
not
end
up
owned
publicly
and
therefore
these
ppda
tools.
Let
us
execute
on
that,
and
I
just
I
hope
this
is
the
beginning
of
a
conversation
about
how
we
can
really
do
this
reimagining.
So
I'm
grateful
to
everybody
for
coming
today
and
to
the
vpda
for
the
first
minute.
E
I'm
not
going
to
belabor
the
moment.
I
really
think
josh
I
mean
you're
used
to
this,
so
I
mean
I
really
thank
you
mina
for
spending
a
lot
of
your
time
here.
Part
of
the
reason
I
think
counselor
brock
spoke
to
you
know
the
need
to
you
know
the
city
has
to
do
everything
for
public
purpose,
which
is
why,
when
josh
mentioned
this
idea,
you
know
part
of
potentially
a
pilot
would
be
restricting
it
to
publicly
owned
land.
E
I
think
you
probably
have
a
greater
hulk
of
the
city
being
an
originator
in
that
case
right
as
a
pilot,
but
I
really
you
know
this
was
very
long.
I
really
enjoyed
this
portion
of
the
discussion
for
sure
because
it's
it's
like
thinking
creatively
about
how
we
can
use
the
city's
tools
to
for
that
community
control
and
to
build
more
affordable
housing.
So
I
just
thank
you
all
and
look
forward
to
working
together.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
thank
you
josh
and
minnie.
So
much
for
your
presentation.
I
really
look
forward
to
this.
This
is
exciting.
Thank
you,
counselor
bach
lujen
as
well
for
filing
this.
I
have
to
agree
with
my
colleagues
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
here
and
it's
exciting
times
to
be
able
to
see
the
possibility
of
using
these
tools.
H
D
D
We
can
do
as
a
use
as
a
city
to
make
sure
that
we're
developing
public
land
to
create
affordable
housing
and
also
to
protect
the
climate
at
the
same
time,
looking
forward
to
continuing
discussions-
and
I
missed
a
good
amount
of
the
your
presentation,
but
I
have
my
staff
members
taking
a
look
and
taking
down
notes,
but
also
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
have
one-on-one
conversations
with
the
staff.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
so
much
yeah.
Thank
you
so
much
mr
chair,
and
we
received
a
number
of
letters
of
public
testimony
related
to
the
park.
Plaza
district,
anthony
pangara
was
here
and
was
going
to
testify,
but
again
had
to
leave.
So
I'm
just
going
to
read
his
as
like
as
a
representative
sample,
the
counselors
should
have
in
their
inboxes
a
significant
number
of
these,
but
this
one
from
from
anthony
is
I'll.
Just
read
it.
C
My
name
is
anthony
pangaro
and
I
have
resided
in
boston
since
1973
and
it
won
charles
street
south
in
the
park
plaza
area
for
the
last
17
of
those
49
years.
I
believe
that
an
important
neighborhood
planning
tool
would
be
lost
if
the
park
plaza
urban
renewal
plan
were
closed
out
entirely,
as
is
now
scheduled
for
april
22nd
of
this
year.
While
it
may
appear,
the
work
contemplated
in
the
park
plaza
or
renewal
plan
is
complete
and
is
no
longer
necessary.
C
C
Building
the
existing
building
was
restrained
by
the
maximum
145
foot
height
currently
allowed
there
by
the
park
plaza
urban
renewal
plan,
while
the
sale
idea
has
faded
for
now,
it
can
always
return
in
the
future
or
after
a
fire
or
other
accidental
cause
affecting
any
of
the
buildings
that
sit
near
the
public
garden
in
the
common.
In
addition,
the
current
urban
renewal
plan
names
specific
allowed
uses
that
are
consistent
with
the
current
surrounding
residential
uses
and
does
not
allow
for
others
like
laboratory
biotech
space.
C
For
example,
this
height
limit
and
control
of
use
is
not
assured
under
the
current
zoning,
which
we
know
can
be
easily
abridged
by
map
changes.
Variances
in
plan
development
areas.
State
law
governing
shadows
caused
by
buildings
on
boston
common
in
the
public
garden
also
have
exceptions
that
are
permissive
for
several
hours
of
shadow
during
every
day,
and
also
for
certain
times
of
year.
These
allow
for
taller
buildings
than
those
that
currently
exist
and
say
nothing
about
use.
On
the
other
hand,
urban
renewal
plans
are
subject
to
great
scrutiny
requiring
detailed
massachusetts.
C
Environmental
policy
act,
analysis
of
urban
renewal
plan
modifications
by
its
independent
regulatory
entities
of
state
government.
In
short,
this
layer
of
extra
protection
can
help
to
assure
a
long-term
protection
for
residents
living
inside
and
outside
of
the
urban
renewal
area,
as
well
as
for
the
public
garden
and
the
common
themselves.
I
respectfully
request
that
park
plaza
should
be
added
to
the
list
of
nine
urban
renewal
plans
to
be
extended.
Otherwise
the
plan
will
expire
on
april
22
2022.
C
A
Thank
you
councilwonk,
and
thank
you
guys
for
coming
out
and
the
panel
that
came
earlier.
I
thought
it
was
informative
and
this
is
what's
important
about
getting
in
person.
I
think
it's
much
better
for
us
as
counselors
to
be
able
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
the
material
josh,
some
some
good
ideas.
You
know
I've
been
talking
about
mixed
use,
libraries,
the
entire
time
I've
been
here.
I
would
never
build
another
single
story.
A
Anything
in
the
city,
but
also
with
the
with
the
rf
rfp,
should
be
going
out
with
the
city
saying
to
the
developers
or
whoever.
This
is
what
we
want
built
and
your
zoning's
already
taken,
so
that
cuts
three
years
off
the
process
right
away.
The
minute
you
win
that
rfp,
here's,
your
here's,
your
your
thank
you,
your
building
permit
and
then
you
stop
building,
because
is
that
three
years
apparent
if
you're
lucky
three
years
of
carrying
costs,
trying
to
get
through
a
process
and
and
that
so
that
would
go
a
long
way.