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Dockets #0453 - Ordinance Amending the City of Boston Code, Ordinances, Section 7-3, Bay Village Historic District.
#0516 - Petition for a Special Law re: An Act to Make Certain Changes in the Law Relative to the Historic Beacon Hill District.
A
A
I'm,
the
District
5
City,
councilor
I'm,
also
the
chair
of
the
Boston
city
council
committee
on
government
operations.
It
is
Monday
March,
20th
2023,
and
we
are
here
this
afternoon
for
a
hearing
on
docket0453,
an
ordinance
amending
the
city
of
Boston
code,
ordinance,
section
7-3,
Bay,
Village,
historic
district
and
docket0516
a
petition
for
a
special
law
regarding
an
act
to
make
certain
changes
in
the
law
relative
to
the
historic
Beacon
Hill
district
referred
to
the
committee
on
March,
1st
2023
and
March
8
2023
respectively.
These
dockets
were
sponsored
by
counselors,
Kenzie,
Bach
and
Ed
Flynn.
A
This
hearing
is
being
recorded
as
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
city,
council,
TV
and
broadcasted
on
Xfinity
channel
8,
RCN
channel
82
and
FiOS
channel
964.
Reading
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
email
at
ccc.go
boston.gov
and
will
be
made
a
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
of
the
counselors
public.
Testimony
will
be
taken
at
the
end
of
this
hearing.
If
you
wish
to
sign
up
for
public
testimony
here
on
in
the
chamber,
please
sign
in
on
the
sheet
near
the
door.
A
Docket0516
is
a
home
rule
petition
which
is
a
refile
from
last
year
and
relates
to
providing
an
extension
of
an
area
that
was
not
initially
included
in
the
Beacon
Hill
district
line,
giving
the
new
development
project
proposed
by
the
Massachusetts
General
Hospital.
This
act
would
extend
Beacon,
Hill
district,
all
the
way
down
to
the
North
Slope
of
Beacon
Hill
to
Cambridge
Street,
so
as
to
bring
these
historic
districts
buildings
that
remain
on
Beacon
Hills
on
the
Beacon
Hill
Side
of
Cambridge
Street
into
the
architectural
protections
afforded
by
the
district
and
to
discourage
their
future
demolition.
A
This
hearing
is
an
opportunity
to
hear
from
the
administration,
as
well
as
public
testimony
on
this
matter
in
front
of
this
this
afternoon,
as
chair
I'm,
going
to
allow
my
Council
colleagues
to
give
their
opening
remarks,
beginning
with
the
original
sponsors
and
seemingly
ending
there
as
well
with
counselor,
Bach
and
council
president
Flynn
and
then
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
the
administration.
B
Great,
how
much
I'm
chair
Arroyo
and
thank
you
so
much
the
illustration
for
being
with
us
and
for
all
the
residents
in
the
audience.
These
two
petitions
are
both
very
personal
to
me.
I
grew
up
in
Bay
Village,
so
it's
a
place
very
close
to
my
heart,
although
it
is
technically
represented
by
counselor,
Flynn
and
and
Beacon
Hill
is
where
I
live
now,
and
actually
my
grandparents
moved
to
Beacon
Hill
at
the
same
time
as
the
architectural
District
was
originally
created.
B
In
fact,
my
grandfather
was
involved
in
drafting
some
of
the
expansions
of
it
and
really
because
of
that.
I
grew
up
very
much
with
a
strong
awareness
of
the
fact
that
you
know
the
North
Slope
of
Beacon
Hill.
What
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
today
was
almost
lost
to
the
wrecking
ball
at
the
time
that
the
West
End
was
and
that
you
know
over
time,
I
think
our
appreciation
for
the
uniqueness
of
the
built
history
that
Boston
has
and
it's
kind
of
huge
addition
to
the
city's
like
identity.
B
Obviously
we
didn't
have
that
at
the
time
of
the
West
End
was
demolished
and
I
think
the
creation
of
the
architectural
Commission
in
the
historic
district
was
very
tied
up
with
suddenly
recognizing
they
say
you
don't
know
what
you've
got
until
it's
gone,
just
the
preciousness
of
that
so
excited
to
be
talking
now
in
2023
about
sort
of
what
makes
sense
and
and
really
kind
of
completing
the
district
in
a
way
that
it
almost
but
not
quite,
was
when
this
was
last
last
acted
upon
and
yeah
and
just
very
grateful
in
both
cases.
B
So
the
I'll
allow
the
administration
to
speak
to
it,
but
in
the
case
of
the
Bay
Village
one
you
know
it's
come
out
a
conversation
with
Commissioners
but
also
been
endorsed
by
the
Bay
Village
neighborhood
association
and
in
Beacon
Hill,
again
come
out
of
conversation
with
Commissioners,
but
has
been
endorsed
by
The
Beacon
Hill,
civic
association.
So
I
think
here
we've
got
an
ongoing
Civic
conversation.
That's
now
coming
to
the
council
floor.
Thank
you
so
much
Mr
chair.
C
If
approved
these
minor
changes
relating
to
the
Bay,
Village,
historic
district
and
Beacon
Hill
historic
district
would
make
the
laws
governing
the
preservation
of
these
two
neighborhoods
more
streamlined.
In
less
confusing
the
amendment
migrating
to
Beacon
Hill
historic
district
was
endorsed
by
the
Bay
Village
neighborhood
association
and
is
broadly
supported
by
residents.
It
would
allow
Bay
Village
historic
district
commission
to
have
a
more
cohesive
review
of
projects.
C
The
home
rule
petition
for
Beacon
Hill
is
a
brief
file.
As
Council
of
Royal
mentioned
from
last
year.
It
would
include
a
section
of
the
North
Slope
of
the
neighborhood
in
the
Beacon
Hill
historic
district.
This
section
is
only
about
40
feet,
wide,
probably
running
from
Charles
Circle
to
Bowden
Street
on
the
beacon,
Hillside
Cambridge
Street.
C
So
this
petition
would
allow
that
small
area
into
the
Beacon
Hill
historic
district
I
strongly
believe
that
these
simple
changes
would
allow
our
city
to
better
protect
the
historic
buildings,
the
instructions,
the
instructors
in
Bay
Village
in
Beacon,
Hill
and
I
hope.
My
colleagues
will
join
myself
in
Council
Block
in
supporting
this.
C
Thank
you
Mr,
chair
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
as
well
to
the
Administration
team
that
is
here
testifying,
but
I
also
want
to
say
thank
you
to
Residents
from
Beacon
Hill
and
from
the
bay
village
for
being
here
for
supporting
this,
but
also
for
taking
such
a
great
interest
in
love
of
their
neighborhood,
preserving
their
neighborhood
and
making
sure
that
we
do
everything
we
can
to
protect
these
historic
districts
in
protecting
the
quality
of
life
as
well
for
residents.
Some.
Thank
you.
Mr
chair,
thank.
A
You
I
now
want
to
introduce
and
give
our
panelists
a
chance
to
say
anything
which
they
would
like
to
say
before.
It
goes
to
my
colleagues
for
questions.
We
are
joined
today
by
Chief
Reverend,
mariama,
white,
Hammond
of
the
chief
of
environment,
energy
and
open
space
for
the
city
of
Boston,
and
we
are
joined
today
as
well
by
Nicholas
Armada,
who
is
the
senior
preservation
planner
for
the
landmarks
commission
for
the
city
of
Boston?
If
either
of
you,
two
have
any
statement
or
openings
that
you
would
like
to
give.
Please
yeah.
D
So
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
moment
one
to
thank
the
council
for
this
time.
You
know
I
think
we
don't
always
get
to
come
into
the
council,
quite
as
often
for
historic
preservation
as
I'm
here
for
parks
and
environment.
So
I
do
want
to
just
take
a
moment
to
celebrate
some
of
what
has
happened
over
the
the
last
year.
D
Some
some
folks
know
I
used
to
run
an
organization
that
connected
young
people
with
history.
So
it's
also
a
joy
to
be
able
to
work
on
some
of
the
important
matters
related
to
not
just
the
pieces
today,
but
other
things
that
have
been
moving.
As
you
know,
last
year
was
our
busiest
year
in
terms
of
passing
landmarks.
We
were
able
to
pass
11
landmarks
in
one
year.
D
I
want
to
extend
deep
gratitude
for
our
staff
for
consultants
and
also
for
the
landmarks
Commissioners,
who
had
pretty
long
meetings
last
year
in
order
to
make
that
all
work,
and
we
also
were
able
to
fill
many
of
our
open
positions.
We've
had
often
a
tendency
to
not
have
all
positions
filled,
but
we
do,
and
our
staff
architect
is
here
today,
Chelsea.
D
We
are
so
glad
to
have
her
as
well
as
we
also
filled
our
assistant
survey
director
position,
and
so
that's
been
really
great
and
we
are
in
process
of
hiring
our
director
of
historic
preservation.
So
there
we
go
and
we
anticipate
the
first
meeting
of
the
commemoration
commission
this
spring
I
do
want
to
note
that
these
these
two
pieces
are
part
of
both
two
pieces
that
we're
really
trying
to
move
forward.
D
One
is
to
get
all
our
commissions
fully
filled
with
people
whose
term
deadlines
align
with
where
they're
supposed
to
be
we've
got
got
a
little
behind
during
the
pandemic,
but
we
are
slowly
moving
into
that
place
and
we
were
excited
that
Highland,
Park,
Mission,
Hill
and
Beacon
Hill
all
got
finished
with
our
appointments
so
far,
and
there
are
a
few
others
in
line.
The
other
piece
that
we
were
really
trying
to
focus
on
is
I.
Think
as
as
councilor
Flynn
noted.
D
Sometimes
we
we
want
to
honor
that
each
district
is
different
and
we've
heard
from
folks.
The
differences
are
so
wide,
sometimes
that
it's
very
hard
to
understand
what
you
should
apply
for
what
you
shouldn't
apply
for
what
kind,
what
things
are
going
to
go
to
staff
review?
What
are
likely
to
be
requiring
the
full
commission
to
look
at.
D
So
we
are
trying
to
get
to
the
point
where
our
regulations
still
allow
for
neighborhoods
to
have
their
specificity
while
minimizing
how
much
unnecessary
difference
there
is
between
districts,
so
that
it's
as
user
friendly
as
we
possibly
can
make
it,
and
so
I
will
have
Nick
speak
in
a
moment
about
what
the
specifics
are
of
these
two
pieces,
but
want
folks
to
be
clear
that
this
is
part
of
a
larger
effort
to
make
the
commissions
and
the
historic
work
as
clear
and
decipherable,
particularly
to
Residents,
as
they
are
entering
these
processes.
D
Because
he's
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
behind
the
scenes
to
identify
whose
terms
they're
in
and
whose
are
not
and
where
there
are
differences
between
districts
that
might
be
worth
reviewing
and
revising
so
with
that
I
want
to
pass
it
on
to
Nick
Armada,
to
talk
specifically
about
these
two
pieces,
what
they'll
do
and
why
it
makes
sense.
I
do
want
to
note
before
Nick
leans,
in
that
we
have
had
conversations
with
the
streets
cabinets
specifically
because
there
were
concerns,
particularly
around
Cambridge
Street,
and
the
impact
that
these
changes
would
have.
D
I
think
we've
come
up
with
a
creative
solution
and
we'll
share
the
specific
language
around
that.
The
conclusion
of
this
presentation.
E
Thanks
Chief
counselors.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
today
appreciate
your
continued
support
in
the
preservation
field.
So,
as
a
as
the
chief
mentioned,
my
name
is
Nick
Armada
I'm,
the
senior
preservation
planner
for
the
Boston
landmarks
commissions.
A
part
of
my
responsibilities
are
to
manage
the
day-to-day
operations
of
the
Beacon
Hill
architectural
district
and
I'm.
Here
today
to
kind
of
answer,
any
questions
that
city
council
might
have
regarding
the
proposed
expansion
of
the
district,
all
the
way
to
Cambridge
Street.
E
So
a
little
bit
of
background,
the
district
was
formed
in
1955
The,
Beacon
Hill
architectural
district
is
actually
the
oldest
historic
district
in
the
Commonwealth
in
one
of
the
oldest
National
registered
districts
in
the
country.
When
initially
formed
the
district
covered,
the
South
slope
of
the
neighborhood,
with
a
focus
on
the
federal
and
Greek
Revival
architecture
by
notable
local
Architects
such
as
Charles
bullfinch,
Asher,
Benjamin
and
Alexander
Paris.
The
district
was
expanded
on
several
occasions
after
it
was
originally
organized
on
the
flat
of
the
Hill,
which
is
over
by
Charles.
E
Street
was
added
in
1958,
the
South
slope
was
added
in
1963
and
then
the
area
surrounding
The
Granary
burial
ground
in
Park
Street
were
added
in
1975..
One
of
the
last
pieces
of
the
puzzle
for
the
neighborhood
are
the
properties
of
budding
the
south
side
of
Cambridge
Street.
Currently,
the
boundaries
of
the
district
stopped
40
feet
from
the
curb
of
Cambridge
Street,
and
it's
a
little
unclear
as
to
why
this
occurred.
But
we
do
know
is
that
it's
thought
to
be
related
to
the
construction
of
the
the
fire
station
located
at
200
Cambridge
Street.
E
While
many
of
the
historic
structures
lining
this
busy
thoroughfare
were
demolished
or
significantly
altered.
When
Cambridge
Street
was
widened
during
1924-1925,
there
are
still
several
significant
properties
that
reflect
the
changes
of
the
dynamic
neighborhood.
In
particular,
you
have
the
puffers
building,
which
is
located
at
214
218,
Cambridge
Street.
This
was
built
in
1906
and
was
a
large
took
a
large
part
in
the
cigar
rolling
industry
that
was
thriving
around
the
depression
area
era
of
around
1930.,
the
properties
at
222
and
240.
E
Cambridge
Street
are
some
of
the
oldest
buildings
on
the
south
side
of
the
street
and
are
among
the
commercial
retail
structures
from
the
late
1800s
that
still
remain.
Additionally.
Number
228
is
also
significant
within
the
lgbtqia
community,
as
the
historic
location
of
sporter's
Cafe,
which,
according
to
the
history
projects
in
proper
Bostonian,
was
a
community
center
just
as
much
as
it
was
a
bar
where
local
members
of
the
community
would
organize
against
homophobia
and
the
AIDS
crisis
of
1980.
E
The
1980s
number
two
72
to
274
Cambridge
Street
are
tenement
houses
built
at
the
beginning
of
the
20th
century,
to
house
the
growing
immigrant
community
in
the
area
and
we're
these
structures
were
actually
once
a
common
site
throughout
the
West
End
and
the
North
Slope
of
Beacon
Hill,
and
are
now
some
of
the
last
that
are
directly
facing
Cambridge
Street.
E
Finally,
the
structures
at
122
and
128
248
270
and
310
316
Cambridge
Street,
are
early
examples
of
structures
that
were
built
in
the
1920s
during
the
rise
of
the
automobile
age
that
catered
to
motorists
coming
in
from
the
city
from
the
Longfellow
Bridge.
Expanding
the
district
would
not
only
permit
the
protections
of
the
historic
structures
it
will
enable
the
neighborhood
and
commission
to
work
with
property
owners
to
redevelop
some
of
the
non-contributing
structures
in,
in
a
way
that's
sensitive
to
the
unique
sense
of
place
that
Beacon
Hill
is
known
for.
E
Finally,
as
the
chief
had
mentioned,
it's
been
brought
to
my
attention
that
there
were
some
concerns
from
other
City
agencies
in
regards
to
including
the
sidewalks
into
the
district,
while
initially
a
point
of
concern
by
staff.
It's
understood
that
any
redesign
of
the
sidewalks
would
involve
a
comprehensive
community-led
process
which
that
does
not
object
to
and
staff
does
not
object
to
removing
the
sidewalk
right
away
from
the
petition.
E
However,
it
should
be
noted
that
there
are
several
members
of
the
community
that
had
informal
conversations
with
that
do
stress
the
importance
of
the
sidewalks.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and
I.
Just
read
that
realizing
I
haven't
talked
about
Bay
Village,
so
Bay
Village
was
actually
a
petition
currently
to
expand
the
purview,
and
what
this
means
is
that
currently,
the
purview
of
the
Commission
in
Bay
Village,
only
reviews,
Properties
or
I,
should
say
facades
that
are
directly
facing
a
public
way.
E
The
new
request
is
to
review
anything,
that's
visible
from
a
public
way
and
thanks
thanks
for
your
time,
we'll
be
happy
to
take
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
Thank.
A
F
It
again
just
want
to
say
good
morning
and
thanks
for
being
here,
I
look
forward
to
hearing
more
about
about
expansion
of
the
historical
district
for
Bay
Village
and
for
Beacon
Hill
I.
Think
it's
an
exciting
opportunity
also
know
that
we've
heard
from
constituents
about
some
questions,
I
think
you
you
just
addressed
some
of
them
regarding
sidewalks
and
things
of
that
nature.
F
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
ensuring
and
not
making
it
more
difficult
for
accessibility
and
for
businesses
to
be
able
to
make
Renovations
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
just
look
forward
to
this
conversation
alongside
District
councilor,
Kenzie
Bach,
who
I
know,
is
steeped
in
both
of
those
communities
and
who
I
will
be
talking
to
about
this
to
make
sure
that
we
get
it
right.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
very
much
on
my
way
home
for
being
here.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
just
quickly.
Thank
you
for
being
here,
I'm
happy
to
be
part
of
this
conversation
and
here
to
support
my
district
councilor,
Kenzie,
Bach
I
know
these
conversations
are
important
and
across
the
city
I
know
we
met
in
West
Roxbury
at
a
community
meeting
out
there,
but
definitely
looking
forward
also
to
hear
more
when
you're
speaking
about
the
sidewalk
needs
and
making
sure
that
we're
getting
that
balance
right.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
Council
Murphy
I'm,
going
to
go
to
councilor
Bach
for
questions
it'll
be
council.
President
Flynn,
followed
by
Council
Bluey
gen,
followed
by
counselor
Murphy.
So
councilor
back
floor
is
yours.
Sure.
B
Great,
thank
you.
So
much
and
I
want
to
Echo
the
shout
out
to
Joe
Cornish,
it's
a
we.
B
We
grabbed
this
slot
because,
as
counselors
know,
the
Council
calendar
is
a
little
bit
crazy
right
now
and
the
chair
was
willing
to
have
two
back-to-back
hearings,
as
he
does
today,
but
but
I
do
regret
that
Joe's
not
able
to
be
here
because
I
know
that
you
know
he
I
mean
he's
really
like
a
very
thoughtful
custodian
of
a
lot
of
our
historic
district
work,
including
in
Bay,
Village
and
so
I.
Just
definitely
want
to
shout
him
out
and
also
appreciate
you
Nick
for
all
your
work
with
Beacon
Hill.
B
We
just
it's.
It's
really
thoughtful
and
and
helpful
and
and
you're
doing
it
every
day.
I
guess
just
so.
Just
on
the
visible
from
public
ways,
point
I
mean-
and
this
maybe
relates
to
what
the
chief
was
saying
about
kind
of
comparative
consistency.
My
sense
is
that
that's
the
case
I
mean
certainly
the
districts
that
I'm
most
familiar
with
visibility
from
a
public
way
is
the
standard
in
general
yeah.
Can
you
speak
to
that?
A
little
bit
Yeah.
E
So,
typically
speaking
in
most
of
our
districts,
the
purview
is
within
visible
from
a
public
way,
whether
rather
than
facing
a
public
way.
So
one
of
the
issues
that
we've
experienced
is
that
you
know
we
can
avoid
all
the
insensitive
intrusions
to
the
architecture
on
the
front
of
the
building,
but
those
could
easily
be
kind
of
slipped
to
the
side
without
our
purview.
E
So
the
idea
is
that
the
entire
components
of
the
building
would
be
under
the
purview
of
the
commission
so
that
we
can
work
with
the
property
owner
to
come
up
with
a
reasonable
solution
to
some
of
the
needs
that
they
have
in
redesigning
or
altering
their
historic
structures,
while
still
maintaining
that
historic
character.
Great.
B
Yeah
yeah
and,
like
I,
said,
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
relatively
minor
change
in
Bay
Village,
but
I
think
you
know
it's
one
of
the
challenges
we
have
with
the
historic
districts.
Is
that
they're
a
part
of
what
make
people
excited
to
buy
property
and
live
in
property
in
these
areas?
But
then
it's
always
like
well,
except
for
my
thing,
where
we
should,
where
we
should
adapt
it
and
not
fall.
So
I
think
it's
it's
useful.
B
You
know
the
more
that
there
can
be
that
cohesive
design,
Vision
the
better
I
I
wondered
on
the
so
I'll
just
say:
I
mean
I.
B
I
also
had
some
conversations
with
the
streets
Chief
over
the
weekend
and
and
I
think
what
I've
kind
of
understood
the
just
to
be
is
that
the
concern
is
because
currently
we
don't
have
any
historic
district
on
either
side
of
Cambridge
Street
that
in
a
context
in
which
we
are
asking
begging,
more
or
less
the
MBTA
to
at
some
point
actually
do
the
red
blue
connector
that
adding
a
kind
of
split,
City,
split
jurisdiction
on
on
kind
of
the
Street
sidewalk
stuff
is,
you
know,
is
sort
of
the
opposite
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
terms
of
getting
them
to
come
in
and
do
that
project
I
mean.
B
B
You
know
I
think
my
initial
reaction
to
this
was
just
that
I
think
the
brick
sidewalks
are
an
important
part
of
the
visual
of
the
district
and
and
so
even
though
they're
not
subject
to
it
now
I
think,
like
you
know,
I
I
certainly
feel
that
they're
visually
important
and
there
are
ways
for
us
to
to
really
to
cancel
the
blue
gen's
point
like
you
know,
accommodate
accessibility,
which
is
really
important.
Cambridge
Street
is
an
extremely
heavily
utilized.
B
Pedestrian
Corridor,
also
bicycle
Corridor,
both
of
which
you
know
has
been
the
subject
of
a
lot
of
conversation
about
how
to
make
it
safer
for
everybody,
but
I
think
I
feel
comfortable
that
anything
that
we
would
do
on
Cambridge
Street
would
be
really
like,
as
you
alluded,
to
a
kind
of
collective
process
around.
How
do
we
make
Cambridge
Street
better
for
everybody
and
match,
and
so
I
think
that
I
think
part
of
the
issue
here
is
sort
of.
B
Does
one
see
the
details
of
the
sidewalk
design
as
kind
of
it's
the
it's
the
end
point
of
Beacon
Hill
and
that's
part
of
why
we
want
the
apron
of
the
district
to
come
down
here,
but
at
the
same
time
the
street
itself
is
also
a
cohesive
whole
and
one
of
the
major
thoroughfarers
of
this
area.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
a
little
bit
about
that,
because
it's
certainly
a
conversation,
I've
been
having
and
I
just
wondered.
B
If
you
could
speak
to
because
I
know
you
guys
have
a
language
proposal
to
accommodate
this
and
and
I
guess.
One
thing
I
want
to
be
really
clear
on
is
how
how
you
would
think
about
making
sure
that
the
city
can
make
it
adaptations
it
might
need
to
make
to
the
sidewalks,
but
without,
like
obviously
part
of
the
point
is
to
not
allow
the
frontage
of
the
buildings
and
stuff
that
come
down
to
that
sidewalk
to
be
Exempted.
So
can
you
just
like
speak
to
that?
D
Yeah,
so
I
think
that
the
the
point
is
actually
pretty
important.
What
that
you
just
raised,
which
is
that
you
wouldn't
actually
from
aesthetic
perspective,
want
to
set
it
up
where
One
Thing
could
happen
on
one
side
of
the
street
and
not
the
other
side
of
the
street,
because
that
would
also
look
very
uncohesive
and
so
I
think
that
the
reality
is.
D
We
have
talked
with
Chief
Franklin
Hodges
and
there's
no
current
plan
to
change
anything
at
this
point
and
the
main
point
would
be
a
huge
redesign
of
Cambridge
Street,
which
would
be
required
in
order
to
bring
the
red
line
blue
line
extension
and
what
you
want.
D
What
you
would
want
from
an
aesthetic
point
of
view
is
for
that
conversation
to
happen
cohesively
together
and
not,
but
we're
going
to
put
this
here
and
then
we're
going
to
do
this
here
and
so
I
think
we
expect
that
people
would
and
I
have
every
confidence
that
Civic
engagement
is
not
a
challenge
in
the
Beacon
Hill
neighborhood.
So
I
am
not
concerned
that
we
would
have
under
representation.
I
think
people
would
certainly
come
out
and
want
to
participate
in
that
process,
and
that
would
allow
that
conversation
to
happen
holistically.
B
Yeah
and
I
mean
obviously
I
think
you,
the
reality
is:
is
that
you'd
have
a
historical
like
you
know
how
to
be
gracious
to
historical
resources,
side
about
both
conversation
about
both
sides
of
Cambridge
Street
anyways,
because
of
course
we
have
Otis
house
on
the
other
side
of
Cambridge,
Street
so
and
an
old
west
church,
and
so
it
seems
to
me,
like
you
know
that
aesthetic
piece
would
have
to
be
a
piece
of
the
puzzle
for
Cambridge
Street
regardless.
B
Certainly
in
my
mind,
okay,
well
yeah
did
you
want
me
to
read
the
Redlands
or
just
yeah
I
mean
just
maybe
to
put
them.
D
Record
and
so
in
the
inspection
where
it
says,
131
and
141,
Cambridge,
Street
and
2-16
Lindy
Street,
we
would
say,
and
excluding
the
sidewalks
along
Cambridge
Street
running
from
Bowdoin
Street
to
West
Cedar
Street.
We
have
additional
language
if
needed.
I
know
the
councilor
back
was
sort
of
saying
we
may
not
need
both,
but
I'll
at
least
share
it,
and
we
can
it's
under
section
three
exclusions
and
inserting
in
place
of
therefore
the
following
sentence.
It
would
change.
B
Yeah
and
so
I
guess
to
me,
we
might
only
need
one
or
the
other
of
those
and
I
actually
would
probably
lean
towards
the
actually
keeping
the
section
three
one,
instead
of
the
section
one
one,
because
I
think
being
really
clear
that
the
city
like
you
know
that
the
sidewalk
stuff
is
going
to
be
in
the
purview
of
the
city
in
a
process,
but
I
wouldn't
want
to
what's
nice
about
that.
Is
it
keeps
the
city
the
agent.
B
So
it
removes
any
confusion
about
whether
we're
also
exempting
things
where
private
property
owners
are
the
agent
from
review.
So
it's
just
a,
but
that
would
that's
kind
of
my
gut
on
that,
but
but
happy
to
also,
like
obviously
talk
to
the
chair
a
little
bit
after
this
and
figure
out
what
makes
the
most
sense.
Thank
you
sorry.
Mr
chair.
A
No
problem
that
makes
sense
to
me:
councilor
Flynn,
if
you
have
anything.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
and
I
just
want
to
highlight
again
that
I'm
proud
to
represent
the
entire
Bay
Village
neighborhood
I'm,
also
proud
to
represent
a
part
of
the
Beacon
Hill
Neighborhood
with
council
at
Bach
and
Reverend
I
I
had
one
one
question:
I
know
it's
somewhat
related
related
to
this,
or
at
least
related
to
the
community
process.
C
In
in
the
Back
Bay,
we
were
working
with
city
planners
Transportation
planners
on
closing
various
streets
in
the
Back
Bay.
You
mentioned
this,
the
chief
of
streets
saying
that
there,
if
there
are
any
transportation
challenges
or
issues
that
would
be
a
full
Community
engagement,
the
the
problem
with
that
is,
we
haven't
had
that
engagement
with
the
community
in
the
Back
Bay
and
in
South.
Boston
I
highlighted
that
recently
to
Chief
author
Jameson
that
the
community
wasn't
involved
in
some
of
these
transportation
planning
and
residents
are
concerned
about
that.
C
Certainly,
these
are
different
neighborhoods,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
there
are
changes
in,
we
need
to
get
the
community
involved
that
the
community
will
be
involved
in
day
one
and
not
halfway
through
the
process.
Well,
halfway
through
the
recommendation
of
city
planners,
any
comment
on
that
Reverend.
D
I
I
can't
speak
to
the
engagement
work
of
other
cabinets.
I
I
I
can
say
that
the
only
conversation
that
we've
really
had
is
really
around
this
question
of
a
major
redesign
of
Cambridge
Street.
In
order
for
the
red
line,
Blue
Line
connector.
So
I
don't
want
to
comment
on
processes
right.
C
No
I
understand,
but
if
there
is
a
major
renovation
on
Cambridge
Street,
my
point
is:
the
residents
have
to
be
involved
on
day
one
in
the
process
and
not
halfway
through
the
end
of
the
process
or
in
the
middle
of
the
process,
or
when
it's
going
to
be
announced.
What
the
plans
are
again.
We
had
that
problem
in
the
Back
Bay
when
city
transportation
plan
is
wanted
to
close
the
street
and
the
residents
were
upset,
the
business
Community
was
upset
and
they,
let
me
know
about
it.
C
They
they
let
Council
block,
know
about
it,
but
they
were
upset
about
the
process.
That's
that
was
the
big
part
of
it
that
they
didn't
feel
like
their
voices
were
heard.
So
if
we
are
talking
about
a
major
renovation
on
Cambridge
Street,
my
point
is
the
residents
need
to
be
heard
at
the
at
the
very
beginning
because
they
weren't
in
the
Back
Bay
they
weren't
in
South,
Boston
residents
need
to
be
heard
and
District
councilors
need
to
be
part
of
that
process,
as
well
as
a
district
council.
C
The
last
thing
I
want
to
do
is
is
be
added
to
some
process
halfway
halfway
when
it's
over
I
want
to
be
involved
at
the
very
first
minute
of
the
process.
That's
my
job
as
the
district
City
councilor,
and
these
issues
are
important
and
I.
Just
don't
want
decisions
to
be
made
at
City,
Hall
by
city
planners
without
the
involvement
of
District,
City,
councilors
and
residents
and
Civic
associations,
neighborhood
associations.
C
That's
my
that's
my
request
and,
as
you
probably
can
tell
I'm
somewhat
frustrated
about
the
process
that
happened
in
the
Back
Bay
and
in
South,
Boston
and
and
I.
Don't
think
it
was
bpda's
fault,
but
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
Chief
Jameson
that
the
residents
and
business
Community.
Let
us
know
that
the
it
was
it
was
a
flawed
process.
D
So
I
think
my
cabinet
didn't
really
have
any
engagement
and-
and
my
understanding
is
these-
were
temporary
closures.
I
think
that
temporary
closures
probably
do
not
have
the
same
sort
of
mapped
out
process.
That's
something
like
a
whole
street
redesign
would,
and
so
what
I
think
I'm
hearing
is
that
sort
of
the
open
streets
and
and
those
processes?
The
request
is
that
there
be
some
some
process
created
around
yeah.
D
Subject
to
the
same
kind
of
discretion
that
sort
of
half
day
street
closure
might
be
allowed
without
the
same
kinds
of
process,
so
I
think
I.
Think
I,
I,
I
I,
hear
the
point.
I
can't
speak
in
detail
because
I'm
not
part
of
the
decision
making
there
but
I
do
think.
The
reason
we
feel
comfortable
with
this
piece
is
that
what
we're
talking
about
is
a
full
Street
redesign
which
has
a
pretty
laid
out
process
that
folks
sort
of
have
to
follow.
D
That
being
said,
obviously,
we
could
learn
from
those
sort
of
more
fully
mapped
out
processes
to
ask
how
they
could
be
applied
to
sort
of
yeah,
less
sort
of
less
permanent
processes.
So.
E
Council
Flynn,
if
I
could
just
add
to
what
the
chief
just
said,
is
that
so
anytime
anything
comes
under
the
purview
of
any
of
our
commissions.
We
do
make
sure
that
there
is
a
robust
process.
I
can't
speak
to
the
project
that
was
happening
in
Back,
Bay
I,
don't
know
if
there
was
permanent
infrastructure
involved
there,
but
what
I
can
say
yeah.
E
What
I
can
say
is
that
there
was
a
robust
communication
process
for
the
south
end
for
the
redesign
of
Tremont
Street
with
the
bikes
that
as
soon
as
we
notif,
we
were
notified
of
that
project.
Moving
forward.
We
made
sure
that
the
public
was
notified
and
had
an
opportunity
to
participate
in
that
project.
C
Right
I
I
represent
the
south
end
as
well,
and
I
made
sure
there
was
a
robust
Community
process.
But
what
I'm
saying
it?
What
is
there
was
not
that
same
process
in
the
Back
Bay
and
that's
frustrating
to
me
and
yes,
temp
streets
were
closed,
temporary
but
here's.
My
point
is
senior
officials
in
the
police
department
called
me
in
the
fight
of
Department
called
me
and
EMS
called
me
and
didn't
like
the
temporary
closing
of
the
streets.
It
added
time
for
them
to
get
their
emergency
vehicles
to
a
specific
location.
C
They
wouldn't
say
that
on
the
record
and
I,
don't
blame
them,
but
they
said
that
to
me
as
their
District
Council
and
someone
that
takes
public
safety
issues
very
seriously.
So
when
we're
talking
about
closing
a
street,
that's
a
serious
serious
thing
and
it's
not
done
you
know
just
to
improve
improve
the
the
social
fabric
of
a
neighborhood.
Our
top
priority
is
Public
Safety.
C
If
it
takes
five
seconds
off
a
public
Public
Safety
vehicle
getting
to
a
home
at
one
of
these
narrow
streets
on
Beacon,
Hill,
well
I'm
against
it,
because
my
the
con,
the
safety
of
my
constituents,
their
medical
care,
is
more
important
and
and
I'm
frustrated
frustrated
about
this
process.
But
here's
what
I'm
going
to
say
is
District
councilors
need
to
be
involved
in
this
process.
Residents
need
to
be
involved
in
this
process
in
neighborhood.
A
You
I'm
gonna,
go
to
councilor
Jan
and
then
Council
Murphy.
If
you
have
any
questions
in
that
order,.
F
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
I,
just
had
a
question
regarding
and
I
just
want
to.
Thank
council
president
Flynn
for
his
constant
advocacy,
especially
on
behalf
of
the
Bay
Village
and
Beacon
Hill.
I
know
he
works
with
councilor
Bach
together
to
represent
Beacon
Hill
and
counselor
box
homeland
of
Bay
Village.
F
So
thanking
my
district
counselors
for
their
work
regarding
accessibility,
The
Landmark
commission
are
there
discussions
and,
and
how
often
are
we
talking
to
the
disability
commission
when
we're
working
through
these
issues,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
have
like
a
good
disability,
Equity
lens
and
making
sure
that
we
are
not
only
when
we're
thinking
about
landmarks,
but
we
also
when
we're
thinking
about
I'm
interested
in
general,
making
sure
that
we
are
learning
from
those
who
are
directly
impacted,
which
is
our
disability.
We
led
by
our
disability,
Commission.
D
So
I
think
we
are
doing
it
more,
there's
still
more
work
to
be
done
and
so
I
think.
As
an
example,
we
had
a
disagreement,
for
instance,
last
year
at
the
Athenaeum,
where
they
had
proposed
a
number
of
changes
that
would
have
made
a
significant
difference
for
for
making
that
space,
accessible
and
I'll
just
say
there
wasn't
uniform
support
for
those
matters,
but
in
that
particular
instance,
I
testified
because
I
was
in
a
boo
while
testifying
and.
H
D
Was
very
clear
to
me
that
small
spaces
and
lack
of
visibility
under
the
street
can
I
almost
got
doored
multiple
times
in
the
seventh
floor
bathroom
during
that
period,
because
there's
no
and
of
course,
obviously
I-
don't
want
open
Windows
into
a
bathroom,
but
it
made
it
very
clear
to
me
how
challenging
and
dangerous
that
can
be
so
I
think
we
still
have
space
to
improve.
I
want
to
be
very
clear.
We
have
opened
some
conversation
and
we
need
to
deepen
that
conversation.
I
would
say:
there's
a
lot
of
openness
within
our
staff
team.
D
There's
some
more
conversations
we
could
have
within
our
neighborhood
groups
and
even
some
of
our
commissioners
in
terms
of
how
we
we
Elevate
this
as
a
thing
we
talk
about
and
think
about
on
the
front
end,
not
as
an
afterthought
and
I
think
they're.
There
are
ways
to
both
protect
a
space
and
to
also
recognize.
For
instance,
you
know:
we've
had
to
come
to
the
moment
that
we
aren't.
D
You
know
having
horses
on
our
streets,
and
so
there's
been
times
where
we've
got
to
change
things.
As
a
result,
it
could
have
worked
for
a
person
Carriage.
It
maybe
can't
work
for
an
SUV
right
and
so
I
think
that
I
thank
you
for
raising
it.
I
think
we
are
not
unaware,
we
are,
they
are
still.
We
still
need
to
go
deeper.
E
And
I
would
just
add
so.
The
chief
has
been
really
good
about
pushing
this
initiative,
and
we
really
both
staff
and
the
commissions
that
I
work
with
are
are
constantly
looking
for
creative
ways
to
achieve
architectural
access
for
all
populations.
I'll,
give
you
a
good
example.
We
have
that
brand
new
book
store
over
on
Charles
Street
at
number
71..
E
We
came
up
with
a
really
interesting
initiative
in
order
to
promote
the
accessibility
of
that
building,
which
was
allow
a
ramp
to
be
constructed
in
the
service
entryway
of
that
building.
Now
that
service
entryway
initially
had
several
large
steps
which
were
original
to
the
structure
in
Circa
around
1820
or
so
so.
The
creative
solution
was,
we
didn't
have
to
damage
the
historic
infrastructure,
but
in
fact
we
built
the
ramp
on
top
of
the
stairs,
while
kind
of
integrating
the
design
into
the
building
and
I.
E
F
Awesome
I
am
grateful
for
that
response
and
I
just
also
just
want
to
uplift
the
reason
why
I
asked
you
know
we
got.
We
hear
a
lot
from
Disability
Advocates
who
want
to
frequent
small
businesses
a
lot
more
than
they
do
right,
but
because
of
design
and
idea
exhibit
in
the
Beacon
Hill
bookstore
that
I'm
sure
that's
what
you're
talking
about
the
whole
bookstore
on,
which
is
a
beautiful
new
bookstore,
but
very
difficult
for
those
who
are
have
accessibility
challenge
because
of
the
stairs
and
how
narrow
it
is
and
so
want.
F
As
someone
at
city
council
as
all
my
colleagues
do
want
to
help
promote
small
businesses
and
don't
want
to
impede
too
much
on
their
ability
to
be
a
thriving
small
business,
you
want
to
ensure
that
it's
open
to
to
those
who
are
not
to
those
with
with
different
abilities
and
those
who
are
disabled
and
and
something
you
hear
from
the
small
businesses
as
well.
F
If
you
make
it
harder
for
us
to
make
these
Renovations
or
for
somebody
changes,
it
becomes
more
expensive
and
then
we
won't
be
able
to
do
it
and
then
that
further
shuts
out
those
from
the
disabled
Community
to
be
able
to
participate
in
shopping
at
small
businesses
just
like
able-bodied
folks
are,
and
so
I
I
just
want
the
city
and
I
know
this,
isn't
just
for
you
all.
It's
just
like
something
that
I
was
recently
talking
about
to
disability
advocate,
so
it's
coming
up
in
this
context.
F
It's
something
that
I
just
want
to
say
to
to
think
about
is
how
can
we
help
our
small
businesses
with
these
accessibility
questions
that
can
be
accentuated
by
sort
of
making
it
when
we
want
to
expand
historical
districts,
which
is
a
great
which
is
great,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
making
it
harder
for
our
business
to
do
something
that
they
already
sometimes
like?
Well,
the
cost
of
making
this
you
know
the
ramp
or
of
widening
the
doors
or
having
an
elevator
is
caught,
can
be
cost
prohibitive.
F
So
just
want
to
just
Elevate
that
from
awesome
Advocates
that
have
brought
it
to
my
attention
and
just
encourage
you
Chief
to
continue
the
great
work
that
you're
doing
in
elevating
that
as
part
of
the
conversation
and
want
to
thank
the
landmarks
commission.
Obviously,
because
I
know
that
you
all
think
about
this
holistically
and
and
want
to
make
sure
we
continue
doing
that.
G
Thank
you,
I
did
want
to
I,
appreciate
you
Reverend
I
know,
we've
been
in
lots
of
different
hearings,
and
your
cabinet
has
lots
of
different
departments
and
they
have
to
work
closely
with
other
City
departments.
So
I
appreciate
and
I
know
that
you
do
work
hard
at
making
sure
everyone
gets
to
the
table
and
has
a
voice
and
that
you're
also
acknowledging
there's
room
to
grow.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
then
there's
that
balance
right.
G
Is
it
like
I've,
been
advocating
for
the
ramp
for
the
students
at
English
high
and
is
it
the
disabilities
commission?
Is
it
going
to
be
the
school
department
facility
like
at
some
point?
There
has
to
be
that
strong
leadership
to
say:
okay,
it's
not
one
over
the
other,
but
also
then
making
sure
we're
keeping
the
voice
of
the
community
in
mind.
So
I
understand
it's
a
lot
to
juggle,
but
I
appreciate
that
you
keep
that
in
mind
and
make
sure
that
that's
part
of
the
conversation.
D
And
I
do
want
to
lift
up
the
commission
because
I
think
one
of
the
other
key
pieces,
that
is
that
they
have
made
sure
they
have
staff
who
are
available
and
have
expertise
in
this
area.
And
there
have
been
a
number
of
instances
in
in
parks
and
and
and
different
projects
that
we've
been
working
on,
where
you're
able
to
send
something
to
them
and
they're
able
to
give
critical
feedback.
D
So
I
think
that
I
just
want
to
highlight
how
again
across
the
cabinet,
we're
trying
to
do
more
and
they
have
been
a
indispensable
Source
in
terms
of
their
expertise
and
their
willingness
to
work
with
folks
and
find
Creative
Solutions.
No.
G
I
appreciate
that
it
reminds
me
of
like
the
language
access
Department.
It
shouldn't
be
all
on
one
person
right
that
one
girl
who
can
speak
Cape
Verdean
in
third
grade
should
not
be
translating
for
the
secretary
right
and
Kristen.
Mccosh
is
wonderful,
but
it
is
also
that
many
of
us
wouldn't
understand
what
barriers
there
are.
We
can
assume
we
do,
but
unless
someone
who's
actually
living
it,
so
that's
important
and
lastly,
I
do
want
to
thank
council
president
Flynn
for
your
advocacy
everywhere.
I
go
with
you.
G
If
it's
here
in
the
chamber
or
in
the
neighborhoods
I
hear
you
speak
and
uplift,
the
voice
of
the
community,
which
is
so
important
and
I,
also
am
a
little
worried
about.
You
know
Dartmouth
closed
and
you
know
it
was
a
test
or
they
say
like.
Let's
just
try
this
out
or
Newbury
Street
and
I
was
at
the
three
open
streets.
G
Some
some
sections
of
all
were
well
attended
and
then
it's
that
question,
though
of
well
who
attended
it
right.
What
who
was
on
Dartmouth
Street,
who
comes
to
Newbury,
Street
and
I,
know
that
we're
a
city
who
welcomes
lots
of
people
driving
to
work
and
own
shops
there,
but
understanding
like
the
closest
right
and
when
you're
on
the
zoning
board
meetings
or
others
they
do.
They
want
to
hear
from
the
closest
about
his
who
were
going
to
be
mostly
affected
by
this.
G
So
it
is
important
at
the
beginning
of
the
conversation
not
just
to
tell
someone
you
know,
here's
the
dates
of
open
streets.av
is
going
to
be
closed,
figure
it
out
Carney
hospital
or
if
you
live
on
this
street,
but
you
were
planning,
you
know
something
for
your
business.
Maybe
it's
a
grand
opening
or
like
a
patio
opening
or
whatever
it
is
that
we're,
including
the
community,
and
that
that
is,
it
happens,
early
right,
so
just
want
to
uplift
what
council
president
Flynn
said
and
thank
you
for
your
advocacy
on
that.
That's
one
thing
thank.
A
You
Council
Murphy
does
anyone
else
have
any
questions
before
we
give
closing
statements
and
go
to
community
comment.
A
No
okay,
I,
don't
know
if
the
Administration
has
any
closing
remarks,
but
we're
then
going
to
go
straight
to
community
comment.
I
have
one
person
signed
up
online
for
zoom
and
we'll
go
and
take
this
list
to
make
sure
everybody
else
is
addressed.
I
also
want
to
give
council
president
Flynn
councilor
Bach.
If
you
have
any
closure
remarks
before
we
go
to
community
comment,.
B
Okay,
great
awesome,
thanks
Ethan
yeah,
no
just
wanted
to
say
I,
do
think
that
there's
a
to
to
the
point
that
the
chief
made
I
think
there's
a
different
process
around
sort
of
like
physical
changes
to
the
street,
not
least
because
it
has
to
go
through
the
public,
Improvement,
commission
and
so
there's
a
bunch
of
public
official
hurdles,
but
also
would
certainly
add
my
voice
in
saying
that
I
think
like
this
Council
would
feel
very
strongly
that
any
like
big
picture
changes
to
any
core
Street
and
Cambridge
Street
is
definitely
a
core
Street.
B
In
my
district
for
both
the
West
End
and
Beacon
Hill
would
you
know
be
something
that
goes
through
a
lot
of
process
and
again
there's
no
plans
for
that.
I
think
it's
just
a
question
of
we
basically
and
I'll
just
say
as
the
district
8
counselor.
B
You
know
there
was
some
conversation
about
the
the
bike
lane
that
went
in
recently
on
Cambridge
Street,
on
the
Northern
side
of
the
street
and
actually
like
one
of
the
one
of
the
decisions
that
was
made
was
to
kind
of
do
that
in
a
way
that
didn't
involve
doing
any
built
infrastructure
or
moving
any
Curves
in
part.
Because
there's
a
you
know
a
large
and
well-beloved
median.
B
That's
like
a
thing
that
people
used
when
we're
crossing
Cambridge
Street,
which
is
really
much
too
busy
and
fast,
given
the
number
of
pedestrians
who
are
crossing
it
at
any
given
time,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
in
that
context
was
that,
like
you,
couldn't
really
just
do
a
little
bit
of
built
environment
like
work
on
Cambridge
Street,
so
it
really
needed
to
be
kind
of
paint,
Flex,
post
type
stuff
and
that
realistically
the
city
is
unlikely
to
do
any
overhauls
of
Cambridge
Street,
except
in
the
MBTA
red
blue
connector
scenario,
because
that's
going
to
be
it
what
they
call
cut
and
cover
thing.
B
So
basically,
you
have
to
open
up
the
guts
of
the
street.
So
and
again
we
could
be
talking
here,
you
know
just
the
design,
for
it
has
started
to
appear
on
the
capital
budget
for
the
MBTA,
but
I
think
everybody
in
the
everybody
in
the
Commonwealth
knows
about
the
capital
budget
challenges
of
the
MBTA
these
days.
B
So
it's
one
of
those
things
that
I
and
other
electeds
in
the
area
have
been
advocating
for
kind
of
pushing
up
the
priority
list,
but
whether
we're
talking
about
five
ten
years
coinciding
with
the
MGH
project
or
if
we're
looking
further
on
than
that,
is
like
not
clear
but
I
I
just
want
to
be
very
clear
that
to
me
that
would
be
like
quite
a
major
thing.
B
It
would
involve
quite
a
lot
of
City
process
and
that
would
be
really
important,
but
I
think
we're
not,
but
we're
not
talking
right
now
about
some
kind
of
change
to
Cambridge,
Street
and
certainly
not
something
that
would
happen
like
quickly
and
without
process.
So
just
wanted
to
be
clear
on
that.
A
Councilor
Bach
I
am
told
that
the
one
individual
who
signed
up
for
Zoom
public
testimony
is
there
and
so
we're
going
to
go
to
Allison
Frazee,
the
Boston
preservation
Alliance,
the
director
of
the
Boston
preservation,
Alliance
and
then
we'll
go
down
the
list
of
folks
who
are
here
in
person,
I'm
going
to
ask
when
we
get
to
that
list,
I'm
going
to
call
you
by
your
name,
please
correct
my
pronunciation
if
it
is
incorrect
and
state
name,
neighborhood
or
affiliation
if
you're
speaking
on
behalf
of
a
organization
and
not
yourself
and
I'm
gonna,
keep
this
to
three
minutes
testimony.
A
I
Hi,
thank
you.
I'm
Allison,
Frazee
executive
director
of
the
Boston
preservation,
Alliance
Boston's,
leading
non-profit
advocate
for
historic
preservation.
Thank
you
to
the
counselors
for
bringing
these
dockets
forward.
We
strongly
support
both
of
these
measures
to
enhance
protection,
a
critically
important
historic
neighborhoods.
These
expansions
are
overdue
and
provide
freed
or
oversight
and
review
for
churches.
I
For
Beacon
Hill
we
do
support,
including
the
sidewalks
in
the
district,
as
is
the
condition
in
the
rest
of
the
district.
This
will
enhance
review
of
changes
through
a
historic
preservation
lens,
in
particular,
in
addition
to
other
needs,
and
concerns
for
accessibility,
I
think
there's
an
advantage
to
having
brick
sidewalks
on
the
beacon
Hillside,
because
it
signals
that
this
side
of
the
street
is
a
historic
neighborhood
and
invites
visitors
to
come
explore
this
wonderful,
Area,
Public
Safety
always
comes
first,
but
there
are
ways
we
can
have
both
the
historic
break
and
accessibility.
I
A
Thank
you,
Miss
Frazee
we're
not
going
to
go
to
our
in-person
list.
You
can
come
to
either
one
of
the
two
mics,
whichever
you
prefer
we're
going
to
begin
with
evidence
Mark
is
that
Mark
Keifer
or
Kiefer
Mark
Kiefer
The,
Beacon
Hill
architectural
commission.
The
floor
is
yours.
J
J
Thank
you,
I
could
tell
by
the
expression
on
your
face
that
maybe
okay
is
this
better
and
just
yes.
Thank
you.
So
again,
my
name
is
Mark
Kiefer
and
I'm
pleased
to
to
be
here
today,
I'm
a
32-year
resident
of
Beacon
Hill
I,
formerly
served
as
president
and
chairman
of
the
board
of
the
Beacon
Hill
civic
association
and,
most
importantly,
for
our
purposes
today.
J
I
currently
am
privileged
to
chair
The
Beacon
Hill
architectural
commission,
which
of
course
has
the
responsibility
and
authority
to
regulate
the
historic
Beacon
Hill
district
I'm
here
to
speak
in
support
of
the
home
rule
petition.
I
want
to
thank
counselors
for
your
leadership
on
this
issue.
I
think
this
is
a
change
that
is
both
welcome
and
I,
dare
say
long
overdue.
My
colleague
Mr
Armada
nicely
articulated
some
of
the
history
of
the
district
I.
Think
it's
fair
to
say.
J
Since
the
district
was
created,
the
historic
preservation
field
has
a
evolved
to
recognize
more
directly
and
more
significantly
social
history,
as
long
as
well
as
architectural
history
and
I.
Think
when
you
consider,
for
example,
that
when
the
district's
boundaries
were
originally
drawn,
neither
the
bill
nashuel
nor
the
African
Meetinghouse
nor
the
Gabriel
Smith
School
building
were
included
in
the
district,
an
oversight
that
is
shocking,
I
think
by
today's
sensibilities,
but
but
certainly
that
mistake,
I
dare
say
was
was
corrected
and
those
buildings
represent.
J
Certainly
the
very
significant
social
history
of
the
North
Slope
of
Beacon
Hill
and
the
tremendous
contribution
of
the
African-American
community
in
Beacon
Hill
to
the
history
not
only
of
the
city,
but
the
Commonwealth
and
the
nation
I
think
the
extension
of
the
Historic
District
boundary
to
Cambridge
Street
would
have
a
number
of
benefits.
We
have
two
standards
that
we
work
with
on
the
beaconel
architectural
commission,
the
first
being,
of
course,
architectural
and
historical
appropriateness.
J
Again,
it
would
ensure
protection
of
those
historic
resources
on
the
street,
both
in
terms
of
their
social
history
and
their
architectural
history.
The
other
standard
is
a
quality
of
workmanship
and
I
think
there
are
going
to
be
opportunities
for
new
construction,
infield,
building
significant
alterations
of
the
buildings
that
exist
there
today
and
both
of
those
standards
will
ensure
that
those
that
development
occurs
in
a
way
that
is
both
consistent
with
the
historic
district
guidelines,
but
importantly,
I,
think
enhances
the
overall
quality
of
of
Cambridge
Street.
J
It's
an
important
Gateway,
not
just
to
the
community
but
to
the
city
at
large
and
I,
think
we'll
be
very
beneficial
in
that
regard.
I
do
want
to
also
speak
in
support
of
the
inclusion
of
the
sidewalks
for
the
reasons
I
think
that
have
already
been
stated.
I
think
the
materials
are
an
important
part
of
the
streetscape
and
therefore
the
architectural
character
of
the
neighborhood
I,
don't
believe
there
is
necessarily
a
conflict
either
with
the
future
renovation
of
Cambridge
Street
or
the
ex
the
issue
of
accessibility.
J
With
respect
to
the
inclusion
of
the
sidewalks
in
the
historic
district
I
think,
frankly,
there
is
we
know
there
has
been
a
a
prior
controversy.
You
might
say
over,
for
example,
the
specifically
The
Pedestrian
ramps
in
Beacon
Hill.
That
controversy
was
resolved,
I
think
very
favorably
in
a
way
that
I
I,
suspect,
a
broad
consensus
of
the
community
would
agree
demonstrates
that
the
city
is
is
more
than
capable
of
providing
accessibility
enhancements
in
a
way.
That
is
very
much
consistent
with
the
historic
district
guidelines.
I.
J
Finally,
just
like
to
add
a
note
with
respect
to
the
issue
of
enforcement,
which
is
very
important
to
us
on
the
architectural
commission.
I
applaud
the
commissioner's
sorry,
the
counselors
for
including
this
measure
in
the
home
group
petition,
but
I
would
say
that
I
think
I
have
I
guess
a
couple
of
concerns
about
the
specific
language.
J
I
think
what
we
really
need,
in
addition
to
codification
or
or
affirmation
of
the
ability
of
the
commission
to
collect
fines,
is
a
workable
enforcement
mechanism
that
provides
some
teeth
to
use
the
non-technical
term
and
ensures
compliance
but
also
respects
the
rights
of
property
owners
such
that
you
have
a
transparent
and
Equitable
appeal
process.
J
It
has
been
suggested
in
the
past,
for
example,
that
the
commission,
or
the
inspectional
services
department,
on
behalf
of
the
commission,
have
the
ability
to
add
a
lien
in
the
deed
of
properties,
property
owners
that
have
outstanding
violations
as
such,
it
would
make
it
more
difficult
to
sell
those
properties
and
I
think
provide
a
much
more
greater
incentive
for
enforcement
and,
but
anyway,
in
in
summary,
I
would
just
say
that
again.
I
want
to
thank
the
counselor
for
taking
up
this
important
issue.
J
A
Thank
you.
We
next
have
Rob
Whitney.
K
Thank
you
very
much.
Council
Royal
I
won't
I,
don't
have
much
to
add
to
to
what's
been
said
by
the
chief
and
by
Mr,
by
Nick,
Armada
and
specifically
by
Mr
Kiefer
I
just
want
to
add
a
little
bit
with
respect
to
sort
of
my
personal
perspective,
having
been
a
resident
on
Beacon
Hill
for
almost
over
35
years,
actually,
first
on
Hancock,
Street
and
now
on
Phillips
Street
on
the
North
Slope,
just
up
from
the
40-foot
line
that
we've
been
talking
about.
I
am
also
like
Mark
a
former
long
time.
K
Member
of
the
Beacon
Hill
civic
association
board
of
directors.
I
was
also
president
and
chair
until
about
a
year
and
a
year
ago,
or
so,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
myself
as
a
longtime
resident
I've
had
a
long
time
interest
in
historic
preservation
and
as
Nick
could
tell
you,
I've
spent
many
years
trying
to
support
the
work
of
the
architectural
commission
and
specifically
expanding
their
ability
to
to
review
and
enforce
the
architectural
guidelines
throughout
Beacon.
K
Hill
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity
now
for
the
city
council
to
expand
and
the
Beacon
Hill
historic
districts,
North
to
what
I
have
called
its
natural
boundary,
which
is
Cambridge
Street
around
the
other
edges
of
Beacon
Hill,
including
Bowden
streets,
Beacon,
Street
down
to
the
embankment
Road,
all
of
the
rest
of
the
district
extends
to
the
streets,
basically,
the
edge
of
the
street
and
the
curb
its
natural
boundary
on
the
Cambridge.
Side
extends
to
the
curb.
There
are
great
reasons
for
including
it.
K
Many
of
them
have
already
been
said
here
and
I
think
that,
with
respect
to
any
concerns
of
the
city
which
I
totally
understand
and
respect,
I
think
that
those
can
be
worked
out
through
the
natural
process
of
the
architectural
commission.
The
commission
is
a
great
place
to
hear
every
month.
They
have
a
great
process
multi-hours
many
times,
and
they
actually
have
an
administrative
review
process
for
things
that
are
not
disputed,
I.
Think
it's
the
perfect
venue
for
there.
K
Any
issues
arise
with
respect
to
the
red
blue
connector,
that's
a
great
place
where
all
that
can
be
hashed
out
relatively
efficiently
and
appropriately
I.
Believe
one
thing
I
would
add,
though,
with
respect
to
the
idea
between
different
options,
if
there
is
going
to
be
a
change
with
respect
to
to
the
issue
about
the
streets
themselves.
One
last
comment
with
respect
to
the
accessibility
issues.
I
totally
agree
that
and
I
think
it's
always
been
true,
that
the
accessibility
has
been
a
major
concern:
a
Beacon
Hill,
going
back
50
60
70
years.
K
If
you
look
right
now,
there
are
ramps
all
over
Beacon
Hill
in
Brick
and
other
substances,
so
I
think
that
there's
always
that
process,
as
Mark
mentioned,
there's
existing
agreement
between
the
civic
association,
the
city
that
has
a
process
by
which
ramp
construction
accessibility
is
is
within,
is
already
agreed
to
and
I
think
that
would
be
extended
to
any
issues
on
Cambridge
street.
K
But
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
is
with
respect
to
this
options
between
excluding
the
sidewalks
and
having
some
other
mechanism
with
respect
to
reviewing
or
having
us
excluding
at
least
destruction.
Demolition
of
the
sidewalks
within
the
district.
I
think
it
much
more
makes
sense
if
that's
going
to
happen
at
all
which
I
don't
agree
with.
K
But
if
the
council
believes
that
that's
appropriate,
it
should
not
be
the
boundary
should
still
go
to
Cambridge
Street
and
then
any
particular
activities
of
the
city,
not
Property
Owners,
but
the
city
themselves
necessary
work
for
the
blue
red
connector
can
be
excluded
if
necessary.
There
are
precedents
for
doing
that.
With
respect
to
the
current
enabling
act.
A
long
time
ago
was
put
in
that
Suffolk
University,
for
example,
while
well
within
the
boundaries
of
the
historic
district,
specific
work
terms
of
demolition,
rebuilding
alterations.
K
Just
at
the
Suffolk
buildings
on
Hancock
Street,
Durham,
Street
and
Temple
Street
were
excluded
from
review
by
the
commission,
although
Suffolk
University
clearly
was
still
within
the
historic
boundaries
of
Beacon
Hill.
If
the
commission,
if
the
council
believes
that's
appropriate
after
due
consideration
and
hopefully
more
discussions
in
the
neighborhood
I,
think
that's
the
way
that
should
go,
not
changing
the
boundaries
as
proposed
in
the
existing
home
rule
petition,
extending
it
all
the
way
to
Cambridge
Street,
which
I
think
is
the
natural
boundary
of
an
enlarged
Beacon
Hill
district.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
Caroline
DiStefano,.
H
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Caroline
DeStefano
and
I'm
a
long
time
resident
of
Beacon
Hill
I
live
on
Temple
Street,
and
that
is
the
area
part
of
the
area
where
the
district
would
be
expanded
to
I'm,
simply
here
to
say,
I'm
in
support
of
the
expansion.
I
think
it
makes
sense,
I
think
it
would
add
Beauty
and
quality
to
Cambridge
Street
I'm,
also
in
support
of
accessibility.
But,
as
the
folks
before
me
have
said,
that
problem
has
been
addressed
and
solved
with
brick,
sidewalks
and
other
areas
of
Beacon
Hill.
H
A
Thank
you,
Megan
r,
chair
of
the
Beacon
Hill
civic
association,
and
then
that
is
the
last
name
on
on
my
sign
up
list.
So
if
anyone
else
would
like
to
give
public
comment,
please
just
raise
your
hand
and
then
we'll
see
you
next.
L
My
name
is
Megan
and
I'm
here
today
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
Beacon
Hill
civic
association
as
a
board
chair,
we're
in
support
of
the
home
rule
petition
that
was
proposed
for
the
expansion
of
the
Beacon
Hill
historic
district
to
Cambridge
Street
to
rehab,
not
to
reiterate
you
know,
there's
a
40-foot
wide
area
of
the
neighborhood
that
remains
outside
the
historic
district
purview
and
the
expansion
would
finally
include
all
of
the
North
Slope,
making
the
neighborhood
whole
within
the
Beacon
Hill
historic
district.
A
Thank
you
is
there
anyone
present
who
would
like
to
speak,
who
hasn't
been
given
a
chance
all
right?
Well,
I
want
to
thank
the
administration
for
your
time.
I
want
to
thank
councilor
Bach
counselor
Flynn
for
bringing
this
and
I
want
to,
especially
thank
the
community,
who
came
out
today
to
voice
their
support
for
this
and
took
time
out
of
their
day
to
do
so,
I'm
going
to
give
the
administration
a
chance.
If
there's
anything,
you'd
like
to
give
in
response.
D
I
think
we've
come
to
a
good
place.
I
do
want
to
note
that
I'm
hearing
clearly
where
folks
are
I'll,
still
be
honest.
That
I
have
been
approached
by
the
disability
community
in
the
last
year
and
I
would
say
the
perspective
I
heard
from
them
is
that
the
problem
is
not
solved.
It's
just
better
than
it
was
so
I
just
want
to
know
for
I.
D
D
Just
you
know
from
a
historic
perspective,
there
are
still
some
wounds
around
the
sense
that
people
only
came
to
that
compromise
because
of
because
they
got
sued
so
I
just
I,
just
wanna
I
want
people
to
just
just
to
be
aware
that
I
thought
it
felt
disingenuous
for
me
not
to
represent
that,
because
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
some
folks.
Last
year
win
the
whole
athenium
conversation
was
going
and
I
would
just
say.
There's
still
some
room
for
more
dialogue
and
I.
A
B
Just
again
to
thank
the
folks
from
the
vegan
Health
civic
association
and
the
architectural
commission,
and
everybody
just
for
coming
in
for
all
the
love
and
work
on
this
yeah
I
want
to
be
very
clear
that
I
think
I
said
this
earlier.
B
That
I
am
I
remain
in
favor
of
brick
sidewalks
on
this
neck
of
the
woods,
I
think
that
to
the
chief's
point
that
there
we
also
know-
and
you
know
frankly-
we've
got
stretches
not
enough
stretches,
but
we
do
have
stretches
in
Beacon,
Hill
of
like
of
smooth
wire
cut,
brick
like
in
front
of
a
few
properties
on
Joy,
Street
and
I.
Think,
like
you,
know
the
thinking
about
ways
that
the
city
can
really
meet.
B
Like
that's,
that's
the
truth
of
the
matter
and
one
of
the
things
that
is
certainly
in
my
mind
is
that
in
a
world
in
which
the
MBTA
is
building
a
red
blue
connector,
the
the
what
gets
put
back
over
on
the
cover
is
actually
sort
of
a
rounding
error
in
the
scale
of
the
cost
of
that
project.
B
But
I
think
would
be
quite
important
to
us
and
like,
and
it
and
I
think
would
be
a
real
opportunity
to
get
something
really
high
quality
from
both
an
accessibility
and
a
visual
appearance
perspective
and
a
pedestrian
accommodation
perspective.
Because
again,
it's
probably
more
my
West
End
folks,
who
have
heard
me
like
just
again
and
again
talk
to
the
streets
folks
about
the
safety
issues
around
Cambridge
and
Blossom,
which
is
like
another
big
piece
of
this
whole
conversation.
B
B
And
it's
it's
my
view
that
the
city
you
know,
one
of
the
reasons
to
think
carefully
about
what
we're
doing
for
regulatory
perspective
on
Cambridge
Street
is
that
we
may
have
a
kind
of
generational
opportunity
to
redesign
Cambridge
Street
with
state
and
federal
money
and
and
it's
frankly
only
the
availability
of
new
state
and
federal
transportation
resources
that
even
make
us
think
that
we
might
be
able
to
get
red
blue
to
actually
happen.
So
I
just
want
to
throw
that
into
the
mix
as
another
factor
for
folks.
B
But
I
really
appreciate
all
my
colleagues
coming
out
and
all
the
members
of
the
public
and
this
40
feet
really
bothers
me.
It
just
looks
goofy
if
you
look
at
the
map
and
it
doesn't
reflect
the
actual
reality
of
what
any
Observer
could
say
is
clearly
Beacon
Hill
and
the
puffer
building's
magnificent.
B
The
building
that
is
referred
to,
as
with
the
lgbtqia
like
community
history
is
also
maybe
more
familiarly
known
to
many
as
the
Hill
Tavern
building,
and
you
know
I
think
but
I
think,
like
that's
an
example
of
history.
That
is
not
well
enough,
recovered
for
the
community
and
and
so
thinking
about.
Is
there
an
opportunity
with
a
historic
district
to
really
like
Elevate?
That
type
of
thing
would
be
would
be
great
from
my
perspective,
so
really
hoping
that
we
can
move
this
forward.
Thank
you.
Mr.
A
Chair,
thank
you,
councilor
Bach.
She
does
think
it's
goofy.
She
showed
me
a
photo
and
it
does
look.
Goofy
I,
can't
confirmed,
and
so
I
will
have
a
conversation
with
the
lead
sponsors
on
this
I
think
we've
heard
from
a
number
of
perspectives
and
I
think
there
was
one
potential
edit
that
could
take
one
or
another
form,
and
so
we
will
have
a
conversation
about
how
that
looks
ultimately.
But
it
is
my
intention
to
get
these
done,
and
I
will
do
so,
and
partnership
with
the
lead
sponsors.