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From YouTube: Government Operations on March 30, 2023
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Government Operations Hearing- Docket #0452- Ordinance providing remote access to meetings of municipal public bodies.
A
A
A
The
docket
was
sponsored
by
counselors
Liz
Braden
and
we'll
received
Louisiana
in
accordance
with
chapter
two
of
the
acts
of
2023
modifying
certain
requirements
of
the
open
meeting
law
and
relieving
public
bodies
of
certain
requirements,
including
the
requirement
that
public
bodies
conduct
in
their
meetings
in
a
public
place
that
is
open
and
is
physically
accessible
to
the
public.
The
city
council
will
be
conducting
this
hearing
remotely
and
it
is
being
recorded.
This
enables
the
city
council
to
carry
out
its
responsibilities
while
ensuring
public
access
to
its
deliberations
through
adequate
alternative
means.
A
The
public
may
watch
this
hearing
via
live
stream
at
www.boston.gov
city
council
TV
or
on
Xfinity
8
rcn82
FiOS
964.,
with
written
comments,
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
email
at
ccc.go
boston.gov
and
will
be
made
a
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors.
If
you
wish
to
provide
public
testimony
and
have
not
signed
up
to
do
so,
please
email,
Christine,
O'donnell
christine.com
at
boston.gov
for
those
giving
public
testimony.
Please
make
sure
that
your
name
is
visible,
so
that
I
may
call
on
you.
A
Members
of
the
public
will
be
promoted
to
panelists
when
your
name
is
called
sure
that
you
click
yes,
when
you
are
prompted
to
join
as
a
panelist.
This
afternoon,
I'm
joined
by
my
Council
colleagues
council
president
Flynn
councilor
Lucy,
Liu
Jen
and
councilor
Liz
Braden.
This
ordinance
seeks
to
amend
the
city
of
Boston
code
ordinances,
chapter
1,
to
add
Section,
1,
8,
remote
access
to
meetings
of
Municipal
public
bodies.
A
This
would
codify
policies
ensuring
permanent
remote
access
for
members
of
the
public
to
attend
and
testify
at
meetings
of
the
city's
several
boards
and
commissions,
including
the
Boston
city
council.
At
the
beginning
of
the
covid-19
pandemic,
former
Governor
Baker
issued
an
executive
order
suspending
certain
provisions
of
the
state's
open
meeting
law,
which
was
set
to
expire
on
March
31st
2023.
A
This
hearing
is
an
opportunity
for
counselors
to
hear
from
the
administration
Advocates
as
well
as
public
testimony
as
get
as
well
as
public
testimony
and
can
give
public
testimony
on
the
matter
in
front
of
us
as
chair.
I
will
allow
my
Council
colleagues
to
make
opening
remarks,
beginning
with
the
lead
sponsors,
councilor,
Brighton
and
Council
Louisiana.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
and
thank
you
to
my
co-sponsor.
Council
division,
you
know
being
able
to
have
our
residents
participate
remotely
and
in
our
business
throughout
covert
has
been
an
incredible
opportunity,
but
and
apart
from
just
the
necessity,
so
that
our
folks
who
are
will
all
working
remote,
but
we
were
able
to
continue
the
business
of
this
of
the
city
through
using
technology.
It
also
became
very
apparent
in
that
process
that
we
had
in
so
increased
participation
in
public
meetings.
B
To
be
able
to
participate
in
our
democracy
and
I'm
hopeful
that,
with
our
conversation
today,
that
we
will
likely
find
a
way
to
codify
this
and
make
this
a
permanent
accommodation
so
that
our
residents
all
across
the
severe
continued
increase
their
ability
to
participate
in
in
our
boards
and
commented
meetings
and
our
boards
and
commissions
across
the
city.
So
thank
you
for
all
of
the
panelists
this
afternoon
and
and
thank
you,
Mr
chair.
C
C
So
ensuring
remote
access,
like
councilor
Braden
said,
is
integral
to
to
a
robust
City
where
we're
able
to
really
build
policy
based
on
really
having
public
input.
I
mean
we
know
for
our
families
that
work
late,
that
have
that
are
juggling
a
lot
that
remote
participation
in
Zoom
has
really
increased
the
availability,
the
ability
of
us
to
hear
from
our
residents
and
so
I'm,
encouraged
by
the
governor,
extending
remote
participation
until
2025,
like
counselor
Brandon,
said,
there's
an
opportunity
here
for
us
to
make
it
permanent.
C
It's
also
to
think
about
what
are
the
ways
that
we
need
to
increase
the
community
building.
That
often
happens
via
public
participation.
That
sometimes
happens
in
person,
but
you
don't
necessarily
always
get
via
remote
access,
I
think
about
how
sometimes
at
public
meetings
the
comment
sections
are
turned
off
or
you're
not
able
to
see.
C
Who
else
is
in
the
room
or
in
the
zoom
and
I
think
that's
an
incredibly
important
part
to
sort
of
democracy
building
so
I
think
there
is
room
for
us
to
do
more
work
here,
but
we
all
know
for
us,
and
even
as
counselors
virtual
or
hybrid
hearings
can
simply
really
be.
You
know
transformative
for
how
folks
are
able
to
participate
and
access.
C
A
D
D
I
was
just
down
just
digressing.
A
bit.
I
was
just
down
boat
in
the
street
meeting
with
some
residents
the
boat
and
Street
MBTA
stop,
which
is
on
the
blue
line,
the
escalator.
We
talk
about
disability
rights.
The
escalator
has
been
down
now
for
a
year
as,
as
has
other
MBTA
stops.
I
say
that,
because
we
need
to
make
sure
we
treat
our
persons
with
disabilities
and
seniors
with
respect
and
dignity.
D
D
So
when
residents
do
come
to
these
meetings
that
they
can
engage,
City
councilors
before
the
meeting
after
the
meeting
during
the
meeting
I,
don't
think
it's
necessary
for
City
councilors
to
to
do
their
remote
meetings
from
home
or
from
from
another
location.
So
I
think
it's
important
that
we
we
provide
access
to
persons
with
disabilities,
but
also,
but
also
hold
us
accountable
old
city
council
is
accountable,
but
showing
up
for
doing
the
work
for
being
here
and
not
missing
meetings
being
here
on
time.
A
E
E
I
I
wanted
to
just
ask
for
the
record
if
console
Breeden
or
Council
Louisiana
can
confirm
I
believe
I
was
signed
on
as
a
third
sponsor.
In
this
virtual
hearing,
I
remember
in
2020
we
worked
alongside
counselor
Edwards
and
counselor
Louise
counselor
counselor
Breeden,
to
ensure
that
we
continue
to
offer
people
remote
access
during
the
pandemic
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I'm
also
part
of
this
conversation
and
I
just
need
some
clarity
around
that
and
then
I
have
some
opening
remarks.
A
E
Well
so
now
record
yawn,
although
those
who
are
paying
attention,
if
you
already
know,
you
know
that
I
campaigned
on
the
fact
that
we
needed
to
have
hearings
and
people
being
able
to
access
city,
government
and
hearings,
public
hearings
and
meetings
even
before
we
had
a
pandemic.
So
I
had
already
been
talking
about
that,
because
one
of
the
Rules
of
Engagement
is
breaking
down
the
barriers
and
allowing
people
to
be
able
to
be
heard.
E
I
think
that
accessibility
is
really
key
and
we
have
an
opportunity
to
really
seize
this
moment
to
educate
our
our
constituents
about
the
importance
and
the
power
of
their
voice
and
I
look
forward
to
listening
and
and
continuing
to
be
a
loud
voice
on
all
things
that
deal
with
creating
space
for
people
to
be
fully
expressed
and
heard.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
councilmania
I'm,
now
going
to
introduce
our
panelists.
We
have
two
panels
going
we'll
have
the
administration
go
first,
but
we
are
joined
by
Brianna
milor,
the
chief
of
community
engagement
for
the
city
of
Boston,
Andrea,
Patton,
chief
of
staff
for
the
commission
for
persons
with
disabilities
I
believe
Kristen.
Mccosh
is
also
here
the
commissioner
for
the
mayor's
commission
for
persons
with
disabilities.
A
I,
though
I'm
not
sure
she's
going
to
be
speaking
unless
there's
some
very
specific
for
Advocates,
we
have
Kade
Crawford
the
director
for
the
technology
for
Liberty
programs,
for
ACLU
of
Massachusetts
Rick
Glassman,
director
of
advocacy
for
the
disability,
Law
Center,
Jeff,
Foster
executive
director
for
common
cause
of
Massachusetts
and
Daniella
depina.
The
peer
advocate
for
Boston
Center
for
Independent
Living
I'm,
going
to
go
to
the
administration
first,
which
is
Brianna
mallor
and
Andrea,
Patton
or
Andrea
Patton,
make
sure
I'm
pronouncing
that
there's
two
different
versions
of
Andrea
Andrea.
F
As
you
mentioned
earlier,
my
name
is
Brianna
melore
I'm,
the
chief
of
community
engagement
and
I,
have
the
pleasure
of
serving
Boston's
constituency
alongside
the
the
communication
cabinet
cabinet,
consists
of
four
departments:
311
the
office
of
Civic,
organizing
spark
Boston
in
the
office
of
Neighborhood
Services.
These
departments
are
centered
around
people,
so
accessibility
and
connectivity
is
always
at
the
Forefront
of
everything
we
do
like
many
people
around
the
world,
the
cloven
19
pandemic
forced
us
to
reimagine
the
ways
we
stay
connected
with
our
families,
our
friends,
our
jobs,
employees
and
with
our
community.
F
One
of
the
top
priorities
of
the
administration
and
the
community
engagement
cabinet
is
to
get
City
Hall
out
of
the
city
hall.
And
what
better
way
to
do
that
in
this
very
digital
world
than
through
making
sure
that
we
can
provide
remote
access
that
our
constituents
can
make
sure
to
stay
connected
with
City
Hall,
the
remote
access
that
human
engagement
cabinet
has
been
able
to
connect
with
Boston's
residents,
Community,
organizing
Community
organizations
and
also
our
most
vulnerable
constituencies
as
well.
F
So
remote
access
is
crucial
for
Boston's
constituencies
to
ensure
the
community
stays
informed
and
civically
engaged
and
connected
to
the
city,
and
it's
also
a
very
timely
discussion
as
we
as
we
see,
the
governor's
extend
have
the
extension
to
March
of
2025
of
remote
access.
So
thank
you
for
having
me
and
I
look
forward
to
engaging
further
I
also
will
be
have
to
hop
off
at
3.
P.M
just
want
to
let
everyone
know
that
as
well.
Thank
you.
G
G
For
those
who
may
not
know,
the
mission
of
our
department
is
to
increase
opportunities
for
people
with
disabilities
by
facilitating
the
full
and
equal
participation
in
all
aspects
of
life
within
the
city
of
Boston.
So
we
work
to
reduce
architectural
procedural,
attitudinal
and
communication
barriers,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
City
programs
and
Civic
activities,
and
remote
access
has
long
been
important
to
the
disability
Community,
whether
that's
the
push
for
remote
employment,
even
before
the
pandemic,
or
the
opportunity
to
provide
testimony
to
this
body
to
the
city
council,
among
others
over
Zoom.
G
One
positive
development,
however,
was
of
course,
the
broad
acceptance
and
implementation
of
remote
work
and
remote
access
to
government
that
the
community
has
long
wanted.
Remote
participation
can
be
beneficial
to
people
with
all
kinds
of
disabilities
for
different
reasons
for
people
with
Mobility
disabilities.
It
can
be
much
easier
to
attend
from
home,
where
you
know
everything's
going
to
be
physically
accessible
to
you.
You
don't
have
to
run
the
risk
that
an
accessibility
feature
at
a
venue
is
broken
like
a
chair,
lift
or
that
inadequate,
accessible
Transportation
options
will
make.
G
You
can
attend
the
meeting
from
an
environment
where
you
have
greater
control
over
things
like
noise
level,
lighting
or
other
potentially
difficult
aspects
in
an
unknown
venue,
because
everyone
is
actually
speaking
into
their
device's
microphone
and
it's
coming
out
of
the
the
speakers
of
the
device
that
you're
using
to
attend
the
meeting
hard
of
hearing
individuals
can
control
volume
and
better
understand
spoken
information,
unlike
it
at
in-person
events,
where
an
attendee
might
decline
to
use
a
microphone.
That's
provided
and,
of
course,
immunocompromised.
G
People
such
as
myself
can
attend
meetings
without
risking
Contracting
a
severe
illness,
but
there
are
challenges
to
a
fully
virtual
environment
as
well.
Different
video
conferencing
platforms
have
varying
levels
of
compatibility
with
screen
readers,
which
makes
some
virtual
meetings
essentially
inaccessible
to
the
Blind
and
low
vision
community
across
all
platforms
screen.
Readers
cannot
access
the
text
on
a
slideshow,
that's
being
shown
using
a
screen
share
function,
and
so
that
text
is
not
accessible.
G
If
that's
the
only
way,
it's
being
provided,
structure
and
social
cues
can
sometimes
be
harder
to
read
and
understand
in
a
virtual
environment
which
might
make
them
more
difficult
for
neurodivergent
individuals
and,
of
course
not.
Everyone
has
access
to
personal
computers,
smartphones
or
stable
internet
connections
that
are
required
for
remote
participation,
especially
for
those
living
on
a
fixed
income.
G
That's
why
hybrid
options
are
really
considered
the
gold
standard
in
our
department.
We've
pulled
our
community
when
it
comes
to
events
that
we're
hosting
and
it
pretty
much
always
comes
back
50
50..
When
we
brought
back
our
disability
Community
Forum
last
may
we
had
40
people
join
us
in
person
and
40
people
join
us
on
Zoom.
G
Our
office
is
also
the
administrative
staff
for
the
disability.
Commission,
Advisory
Board.
This
board
is
made
up
of
13
Boston
residents
appointed
by
the
mayor,
who
advise
our
department
and
really
the
city
on
issues
of
concern
to
the
disability
community
and
advocate
for
policies
at
the
local
state
and
even
National
level
that
improve
lives
of
people
with
disabilities.
The
board
holds
monthly
meetings
and
they
are
one
of
the
commissions
that
is
subject
to
open
meeting
laws
and
I
do
mention
this
first,
because
the
board
has
been
discussing
for
months.
G
Their
desire
to
see
remote
participation
remain
an
option
for
all
public
meetings.
They've
been
tracking
both
the
status
of
this
legislation
and
the
legislation
at
the
state
level.
The
supplemental
funding
that
that
temporarily
extended
this
and
some
legislation
that
would
make
this
permanent
under
the
open
meeting
law.
G
It
essentially
requires
the
staff
and
resources
of
two
meetings,
someone
to
manage
the
virtual
meeting
directing
the
virtual
component
managing
the
technology
and
someone
to
manage
the
location
and
the
in-person.
It
requires
that
you
have
the
right
technology
and
plates
cameras
in
the
room
so
that
virtual
attendees
can
see
the
in-person
meeting
microphones
in
that
room.
G
A
Thank
you,
I,
don't
know
if
the
if
we
should
go
straight
to
our
Advocate
panel,
so
that
counselors
can
ask
questions
of
both
sides
of
this
I
know.
We
have
a
hard
stop
at
three
for
the
chief
and
and
for
Andrea,
so
I
don't
know
if
there's,
if
there's
any
questions
specifically
for
them,
otherwise
I
could
go
straight
to
our
Advocate
panel.
Thank
you
both
for
your
testimony
and
for
your
your
very
important
points.
B
I
think
Mr,
chair
I,
had
a
few
questions
about
I
know
a
few
years
ago.
If
the
city
had
conducted
A
needs
assessment
to
review
the
technological
conditions
of
sitting,
Hall
hearing
rooms
and
conference
rooms
to
identify
the
need
for
equipment
upgrades
to
support
a
permanent,
remote
access.
I
know
that
was
something
that
was
sort
of
to
put
out
there.
B
Last
year
we
we-
because
we
were-
we
were
advocating
for
this-
this
legislis
ordinance-
we
did
put
it
in
there,
but
suggested
put
it
in
the
budget
last
year
to
fit
out
two
of
the
meeting
rooms
in
the
city
council,
the
karate
room
and
the
Piemonte
room,
so
that
a
residence
could
remotely
observe
and
participate
in
working
sessions
as
well.
That
was
the
that
was
another
reason
for
that:
supplemental
budget
request
that
we
put
in
last
year,
but
those
are
really
just
my
questions
in
terms
of
okay.
B
A
G
G
The
state's
temporary
extension
expired
for
about
48,
Hours,
actually
so
I
know
there
was
work
done
to
look
at
not
only
meeting
rooms
in
City
Hall,
but
in
other
City
buildings
like
the
bowling
building
so
I
know
an
accounting
of
that
started.
At
least
the
last
time
in
the
state
was
looking
at
an
expiration,
but
I
don't
have
those
numbers,
so
we
would
have
to
follow
up
with
you
for
specifics.
A
C
Thank
you,
chair,
I
I
have
one
question,
I
think
or
maybe
more
than
one,
but
one
question
start
the
administration.
Is
there
a
Best
practice
for
virtual
engagement,
like
chat
features
or
Communications,
or
making
sure
that
you
know
you
can
see
everyone
who's
in
the
room?
Is
there
like
a
policy
on
on
how
well
on
how
we
should
engage
Community
virtually.
F
G
I
would
just
say
yes,
LCA
and
our
office
have
definitely
put
together
both
sort
of
expected
requirements,
but
also
best
practices
for
virtual
engagement.
My
sort
of
shortest
best
piece
of
advice
is
more
options,
are
better
someone
might
be
able
to.
You
know,
navigate
and
click
the
raise
hand
function,
but
if
that's
the
only
way
that
you're
allowing
people
to
be
recognized,
you
might
miss
folks
who,
who
aren't
able
to
do
that.
C
F
G
There's
no
one
that
is
considered
the
best
or
the
best
one
I'd
be
happy
to
follow
up
the
mass
office
on
disability.
Their
annual
meeting
this
past
year
was
specifically
about
this
and
they
had
representatives
from
zoom
and
teams
and
like
six
different
platforms
to
kind
of
show
off
all
their
accessibility
features.
So
the
state
agencies
may
have
some
more
guidance
on
accessibility
across
Futures,
but
they've
all
done
so
much
work
in
the
pandemic
to
fix
bugs
and
make
improvements,
I
think
they're
all
miles
better
than
they
were
in
2019.
To
be
honest,.
C
Okay
and
then
just
in
terms
of
like
making
sure
that
we're
equipped
here
in
City
Hall
to
be
able
to
meet
what
we
want
to
do,
which
is
like
permanent,
hybrid
options.
Have
we
identified
what
city
hall
areas
in
the
city
are
like
need
equipment
upgrades
to
make
sure
that
we're
able
to
to
execute
the
way
that
we
want
to.
G
I
know
that
the
department
of
innovation
and
technology
and
Property
Management
have
started
a
survey
of
those
spaces,
not
just
in
City
Hall,
but
also
other
City
buildings.
They
started
the
last
time.
The
state
temporary
thing
was
expiring,
so
I
don't
know
the
status
of
it,
but
I
know
we
can
chat
with
Chantal
and
it's
follow
up.
C
F
E
F
Think
the
core
of
community
engagement
is
always
making
sure
you're
in
taking
feedback
and
remote
access
and
creating
space
has
always
been
a
topic
of
that.
So
we
are,
we
are
constantly
getting
feedback
on.
You
know
how
do
we
formulate
meetings
like
how
are
we?
How
are
we
structuring
them
Etc?
So
there's
no
formal
mechanism
right
now
to
kind
of
collect
that
information,
but
it's
a
lot
of
a
lot.
F
It's
the
anecdotal
in
a
sense,
so
some
of
the
things
that
we
hear
about,
maybe
to
your
mentioned
earlier
of,
like
you
know,
wanting
to
see
each
other
like
this-
helps
the
helpful
to
know
like
who's
in
the
room.
I
think
that's
probably
the
most
common
one
I
hear,
and
then
you
know
raising
your
hand
like
sometimes
maybe,
like
the
order,
might
go
out
of
whack
and
stuff
like
that,
which
is
like
a
technological
thing.
F
So
we
are
definitely
making
sure
that
we're
making
our
spaces
as
accessible
as
possible
and
people
can
feel
connected.
So
looking
through
platforms
to
make
that
happen,
but
I
would
definitely
say
that
seeing
each
other
she's
seeing
each
other's
faces,
who
else
is
on
the
call,
probably
the
most
one
that
comes
up
the
most.
F
F
C
That
right
and
but
you
don't
get
feedback
where
you
haven't,
heard
a
lot
about
public
notice
being
an
issue
like
I
didn't
know,
this
meeting
was
happening
like
where's,
the
link
posted
or
like
sometimes
they
have
to
register
right
first
before
getting
a
link.
So
just
wanting
to
know,
if
you
hear
anything
about
that.
F
We
would
love
to
make
sure
that
anything
that
the
council
is
hearing
as
well.
If
we
the
way,
we
can
making
sure
that
we
are
getting
all
the
information
as
possible
to
make
our
public
meetings
as
accessible
as
possible,
but
if
you're,
if
you
are
hearing
that,
would
love
to
make
sure
we're
addressing
those
concerns
for
community
members.
D
G
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
question.
Counselor
Flynn
I
do
know
that
the
again
Department
of
innovation
and
Technology
there
is
a
digital,
Equity,
Fund
I,
don't
know
the
details
on
it
since
again,
not
not
in
my
department
but
I
do
know.
There
is
an
existing
fund
at
the
city
to
assist
with
bringing
down
internet
prices.
Things
like
that
I
also
think.
G
That's
that
question
is
part
of
why
the
hybrid
options
are
so
important
that
if
someone
doesn't
have
you
know
technology
at
their
home
that
there
is
still
a
place.
You
know
here
in
City
Hall
here
in
the
People's
Building
that
they
can
come
and
and
interact
in
person.
So
yeah
digital
Equity
is
definitely
very
important
to
us
and
I.
The
only
fun
that
I
know
about
lives
and
do
it.
D
Thank
thank
you,
Andrea,
and,
and
maybe
as
we
go
forward
over
the
next
two
weeks,
maybe
we
can
have
a
discussion
with
the
city
of
Boston's
budget
people
to
see
if
there
might
be
an
opportunity
to
figure
out
do
an
assessment.
Do
an
assessment
on
what
we
might
need
to
help
persons
with
disabilities
and
allocate
funding
so
I'd
be
glad
to
work
with
whoever
wants
to
be
part
of
that.
D
D
That
was
my
number
one
issue
and
then
my
second
one
is
going
back
to
my
original
opening
statement,
and
maybe
maybe
my
colleagues
might
not
like
this,
but
but
here
goes,
would
what
what
would
prevent
a
remote
hearing
from
happening
where
City
councils
don't
have
to?
Would
this
be
with
this?
Allow
City
councilors
to
do
their
remote
hearings
from
their
homes
and
not
not
in
the
in
their
offices
or
or
in
the
inl
chamber.
I
should
say:
do
we
know
the
answer
to
that.
B
B
The
requirement
is
that
the
zba
board
are
there
in
person
together,
but
that
the
public
can
participate
remotely
so
I
think
it's
really
a
a
it's
really
to
improve
access
for
the
community
to
boards
and
commissions
and
the
and
the
deliberations
of
government
in
the
city.
I
still
think
the
the
remote
meeting
I
think
your
concern
is
that
none
of
the
the
city
councilors
will
be
having
having
hearings
and
that
we
would
be
doing
it
remotely.
It
seems
that
you
know
really.
B
The
focus
of
this
legislation
is
to
look
at
recognizing
that
there
are
a
huge
number
of
boards
and
commissions
in
the
city.
I
think
there's
about
60
of
them
and
that
the
public
has
to
have.
We
really
just
want
to
expand
access
to
those
those
meetings
for
the
for
the
public
who
may
not
otherwise
be
able
to
participate
because
of
caretaking
responsibilities.
Job
schedules:
disabilities.
B
D
B
I
think
the
hybrid
option
for
remote
participation
like
we
had
an
earring
this
morning,
we
had
remote
access
for
folks
who
wish
to
make
public
testimony
and
again
I
think
that's
that
that's
something
that
is
very
conducive
to
expanding
Community
participation
and
the
deliberations
of
of
our
city
council
hearings
when
we
invite
in
public
testimony
as
part
of
the
of
the
hearing,
then
offering
a
hybrid
option.
As
you
said,
it
is
sort
of
the
gold
standard
in
terms
of
public
participation.
D
D
D
F
D
Okay,
because
I
also
think
we
I
also
think
we
lose
something
when
we
don't
meet
in
public
and
we
don't.
We
don't
get
that
one-on-one
engagement
with
residents
prior
to
a
meeting
after
a
meeting,
and
you
know
and
I
think
it
does.
It
does
impact
our
ability
to
do
to
do
our
job.
I
got
I
like
the
in-person
meeting
and
then
access
for
for
the
public.
E
Thank
you
chair,
so
just
a
few
questions.
I
am
seeking
a
little
bit
of
clarity,
so
it
sounds
like
through
the
chair
to
the
makers
that
this
is
specific
to
boards
and
commissions.
Not
the
public
hearings
that
we
host
on
the
council.
It
seems
like
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
under
that
I'm
participating
in
the
right
conversation
and
that
my
questions
are
specific
to
to
that.
So
could
I
just
gain.
B
E
Yes,
all
right!
So
let's
just
talk
a
little
bit
about.
Thank
you
for
that
concept.
Reading.
Let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
language
access,
we
you
know,
we've
been
talking
about
just
being
able
to
be
engaged
and
I'm
just
curious
in
terms
of
how
we're
thinking
about
the
component
of
making
sure
that
all
of
our
meetings
are
accessible,
whether
it's
in
person
or
hybrid,
or
virtually
that
there
is
a
language
access
component.
Can
you
just
talk
through
that?
E
Because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
set
up
for
success
and
I
Know
Chief
melore,
you
and
I
have
talked
about
how
important
it
is
to
make
sure
that
the
interpretation
and
language
is
available
in
all
all
spaces
and
places,
but
we,
as
on
the
council,
don't
have
the
capacity
to
go
because
we
don't
have
the
budget.
So
can
you
talk
in
your
Ideal
World?
This
is
the
opportunity
for
us
to
dream
big
and
envision.
What
is
possible?
E
F
Always
at
the
Forefront
of
our
minds,
specifically
with
boards
and
commissions
requesting
language,
is
something
that
you
can
always
do.
We
also
have
the
capability
to
like,
on
the
spot,
to
do
translations
as
well.
That's
a
that
is
something
that
the
city
has
access
to,
for
example,
if
you're
in
like
talking
to
a
constituent
and
maybe
they're
like
trying
to
try
and
understand
what
they're
saying
that's
something
that
you
can
do
on
the
spot.
F
But
yes,
so
Boards
of
commissions,
when
we're
talking
about
accessibility,
that
is
that
is
always
LCA,
is
always
at
the
Forefront
of
those
conversations,
even
translations
of
notices
and
notifications,
as
well,
so
yeah
and
I
think
as
we
as
we
kind
of
have
as
we
kind
of
have
deeper.
In
these
conversations,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
accessibility
with
language
is
always
at
the
Forefront,
so
yeah.
E
And
I'm
curious:
do
you
know
in
the
world,
and
sometimes
you
just
never
know,
who's
real
and
who's,
not
and
I'm,
just
curious.
There
are
a
lot
of
meetings
that
happen
where
you
have
these
stakeholders
or
Butters
or
people
who
who
are
claiming
to
be
part
of
a
neighborhood.
Are
there
any
checks
and
balances
that
you
can
think
of
when,
when
we're
hosting
virtual
meetings
and
people
are
signing
up
for
public
testimony
to
speak,
what
what
kind
of
guard
meals
are
you?
F
E
I'll
I'll
clarify
a
little
bit
more,
so
I
participated
in
one
of
the
you
know.
We
established
the
black
men's
commission
here
in
city
of
Boston
and
we
participated
in
some
of
their
Community
listening
sessions
and
things
of
that
nature
right
so
that
that's
a
commission-
and
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
who
have
really
good
intentions,
but
may
not
be
from
Boston
but
but
are
occupying
space
and
commenting
in
those
spaces
that
help
inform
the
commission's
work.
E
E
Well,
I
I
appreciate
I.
Just
think
that
you
know
people
there's
this
sentiment
here
right
that
we're
not
being
heard,
and
things
are
always
being
done
to
us
without
us,
and
that's
why
I'm
so
incredibly
encouraged
by
the
leadership
and
the
administration
and
how
hard
you
all
are
working
to
be
in
constant
community
and
in
communication
with
folks.
So
I
I
really
do
see
the
the
shift
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
whatever
we
can
do
on
the
council
to
help
ensure
that
you
have
the
right
budget
that
you're
thinking
about
your
Staffing.
E
Are
you
thinking
about
the
technology
that
you're
thinking
about
all
these
things,
so
that
we
can
be
as
supportive
as
possible
is
really
what
I'm
trying
to
gain
some
insight?
And
then
the
last
question
that
I
have
because
I
know
you
all
have
a
hard
stop
is
is,
as
you
as
you
think,
about
this
particular
issue.
Around
access,
I
I,
think
I'm,
hearing
a
lot
around
accessibility
and
disability,
but
I'm
also
going
to
just
amplify.
E
You
know
as
a
single
mom
and
someone
who
works
in
the
education
space
and
who
grew
up
with
an
undocumented
Mom.
It
is
really
important
for
us
to
make
sure
that
accessibility,
when
we're
thinking
about
boards
and
commissions
or
whatever
the
case
is,
is
that
we
are
removing
as
many
barriers
as
possible
so
that
people
could
be
participating
in
democracy
right.
This
is
about
digital
democracy
and
opportunity
for
people
to
be
heard,
and
so
I
just
want
to
just
uplift.
E
A
G
Counselor,
do
you
mind
if
I
just
make
one
comment
on
the
interpretation
piece?
Thank
you
counselor
here
for
raising
that.
Yes,
we
talk
a
lot
about
disability,
accessibility
for
obvious
reasons,
we're
the
disabilities,
commission,
but
disability.
It
is
every
you
know,
intersects
with
every
race,
every
gender,
every
social
class
and-
and
we
definitely
want
to
make
sure
our
meetings
are
accessible
to
everyone.
G
A
note
on
interpretation.
Remote
access
has
made
it
a
lot
easier
to
schedule
interpreters.
This
is
especially
true
of
ASL,
but
hybrid
also
makes
the
logistics
of
that
a
little
more
complicated
or
and
or
more
expensive
right.
You
either
need
a
spoken
language
interpreter
on
the
zoom
and
one
in
person,
or
you
need
to
have
the
right
technology
to
make
sure
that
the
in-person
people
can
see
The
Interpreter
on
Zoom.
G
So
it's
just
it's
an
important
one,
and
it's
something
that
our
office,
the
office,
language
and
Communications
access
the
equity
cabinet
as
a
whole
is
here
to
support
every
board
in
commission
with,
but
hybrid
again
being
the
gold
standard.
But
also
you
got
a
little
work
a
little
bit
harder,
sometimes
to
reach
the
gold
standard
right.
You
got
to
put
in
more
time
and
more
money,
more
resources
to
reach
it.
So
that's
a
great
Point
thank
you
for
raising.
G
A
Thank
you
for
answering
that
and
adding
that
I
don't
know
if
anybody
has
anything
else
for
the
administration
before
they
sat
at
three
o'clock,
stop
hard
stops
was
actually.
This
is
like
perfect
timing,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
anybody
else
has
anything
else
for
them
that
we
can't
send
them
later.
But
now
is
that
time
and
you're
free,
so
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
let
you
go
thank.
A
You
we're
gonna,
go
to
our
Advocate
panel,
now
I'm
going
to
reintroduce
you
and
then
you
can
take
it
from
there.
We
are
joined
today
by
Kate
Crawford,
director
of
technology
for
Liberty
program
for
AC,
for
the
ACLU
Massachusetts
Rick
Glassman,
the
director
of
advocacy
for
the
disability,
Law
Center
Jeff
Foster,
the
executive
director
for
common
cause,
Massachusetts
and
Daniella
depina,
who
is
a
peer
advocate
for
the
Boston
Center
for
Independent,
Living
and
so
I'm
going
to
allow
you
all
to
have
opening
statements.
H
Great
thank
you
very
much
chair.
It's
really
nice
to
be
here.
First
I
just
want
to
express
my
gratitude
for
living
in
the
city
of
Boston.
This
is
a
city
where
all
of
our
leaders,
elected
and
appointed,
are
committed
to
accessibility,
transparency
and
Democratic
access,
and
it
is
really
a
breath
of
fresh
air
to
be
part
of
a
process
like
this
one,
particularly
given
what
we
see
going
on
in
other
parts
of
the
country
where
other
government
officials
are
attacking
democracy
and
making
it
more
difficult
for
people
to
participate.
H
Many
people
have
already
said
the
pen
just
showed
us
what
remixes
offers.
So
many
people
who
had
previously
been
shut
out
of
the
democratic
process
were
suddenly
able
to
participate
and
to
do
so
relatively
easily.
People
with
small
children
at
home,
people
with
elder
care
responsibilities,
folks,
working,
multiple
jobs,
people
with
disabilities,
and
so
many
other
groups,
including
me
I've,
been
into
none
of
those
categories,
but
it
was
really
nice
to
be
able
to
tune
in
to
government
meetings
like
school.
H
You
know
school
committee
meetings
and
and
voice
my
my
views
on
issues
while
I
was
cooking
dinner.
For
example,
we
know
that
when
more
people
are
part
of
the
conversation,
we
get
to
better
solutions
to
advance
the
public
interest
and
quality
of
life
in
our
communities,
and
so
it's
really
wonderful
to
see
a
commitment
from
this
body
to
extending
that
remote
access.
H
We
are
also
very
happy
that
the
legislature
and
the
governor
extended
the
emergency
remote
access
Provisions
in
the
recent
supplemental
budget
that
was
signed
just
yesterday.
That
extension
gives
us
more
time
to
hash
out
what
a
permanent
change
to
the
state
open
meeting
law
should
look
like
and
to
ensure
Municipal
governments
like
Boston's
have
the
funds
that
they
need
to
get
everybody
the
access
they
need
to
be
a
part
of
the
conversation.
H
So
our
Coalition
you're,
going
to
hear
from
a
bunch
of
us
today
is
supporting
legislation
that
would
permanently
amend
the
open
meeting
law
at
the
state
level
to
provide
for
hybrid
access,
and,
if
any
of
you
would
like
to
help
us
try
to
get
that
bill
passed.
Please
let
me
know
we
would
love
your
support.
At
the
same
time,
though,
Boston
does
not
need
to
and
shouldn't
wait
for
the
state
to
make
those
permanent
changes.
H
We
have
the
opportunity
to
lead
and
to
work
out
rules
for
the
city
that
put
us
on
firm
footing
to
ensure
that
we're
doing
everything
possible
to
give
everyone
access
to
be
involved
in
our
local
Democratic
process,
and
it's
seems
to
me,
though,
there's
a
broad
consensus
on
the
council
that
this
ordinance
is
a
good
idea.
So
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
have
to
do
a
whole
lot
of
work,
convincing
people
that
we
should
pass
an
ordinance
like
this,
like
with
many
issues,
the
trick
is
going
to
be
getting
the
details
right.
H
So
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
comments
made
by
Andrea
Patton
about
the
logistical
complexities
of
hybrid
meetings
and
also
her
view
that
they
are
the
gold
standard.
We
agree.
It's
the
aclu's
position
in
our
coalition's
position.
That
hybrid
meetings
are
the
best
approach.
We
also
value
what
physical
presence
can
offer
in
these
processes.
You
know
something
echoed
as
well
by
council
president
Flynn,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
have
the
option
to
either
show
up
in
person
or
to
make
their
their
voice
heard
online.
H
So
towards
that
end
we
are
very
much
looking
forward
to
participating
in
a
working
session
on
this
legislation.
We
want
to
make
sure
we're
dotting
on
our
eyes
and
crossing
our
T's
and
as
council
president
Flynn
said,
we
also
want
to
make
sure
the
city
has
the
funds
allocated
properly
to
facilitate
true
open
meetings.
H
So
you
know
we
look
forward
to
being
part
of
budget
conversations
if
that
would
be
helpful
as
well.
Boston
is
always
a
leader
in
our
state,
and
we
are
confident
that
we
can
arrive
at
language.
That's
agreeable
to
everyone
involved
and
ensures
the
city
is
ready
to
offer
full
accessibility
to
all
our
residents
on
an
ongoing
and
permanent
basis.
So
I'll,
just
close
by
saying,
thank
you.
I
H
A
pleasure
to
be
a
part
of
this
process
very
grateful
to
the
sponsors.
Thank
you,
chair
Arroyo.
Thank
you,
council,
president
Flynn.
We
look
forward
to
getting
this
over
the
Finish
Line
as
soon
as
possible,
and
we
are
happy
to
be
a
resource
to
the
city
and
to
the
administration
of
this
legislation
forward.
Thanks.
J
Good
afternoon
I'm
Rick
laskman
I'm,
the
director
of
advocacy
at
the
disability,
Law
Center,
my
thanks
to
the
chair
and
the
council
president
and
the
sponsors
and
other
members
of
the
council
that
have
put
forward
this
important
measure.
I
I
wanted
this
afternoon
to
just
very
quickly
tell
you
my
favorite
story
about
the
importance
of
remote
public
participation,
I'm
working
with
Boston
Center
for
Independent
Living
and
some
other
disability.
J
Justice
Advocates
on
state
legislation
were
related
to
people
who
use
wheelchairs,
who
are
stuck
at
home
for
weeks
or
months
at
a
time
because
our
system
for
fixing
wheelchairs
is
broken,
our
warranty
laws
need
to
be
improved
and
so
on
and
during
the
last
legislative
session
at
the
Committee
hearing
on
our
bill,
we
had
a
wheelchair
user,
testify
and
supported
the
bill
from
the
parking
lot
of
Home
Depot,
or
why
was
he
there?
He
was
on
his
shift
at
work.
J
J
He
didn't
have
the
resources
to
just
be
able
to
take
a
day
off
of
work,
and
he
probably
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
find
readily
available
to
him
accessible
transportation
to
get
all
the
way
into
onto
Beacon
Hill
and
you
know
and
lose
a
work
day,
and
so,
as
the
slogan
goes,
this
is
what
democracy
looks
like.
This
is
what
we've
been
able
to
accomplish,
in
spite
of
all
the
others,
horrible
things
that
covet
has
brought.
J
As
has
already
been
said,
there
are
so
many
people
and
it's
not
just
people
with
disabilities,
able
to
talk
about
disability
issues.
It's
people
with
disabilities
able
to
talk
about
anything
in
the
public
sector
that
affects
them
and
other
people
who
really
lack
the
resources,
the
privilege,
the
the
the
the
ability
to
have
child
care-
or
you
know,
people
who
are-
are
managing
Child,
Care,
child
care
or
caretaking
responsibilities
who
have
poor
Transportation
options.
J
So
I
I
think
this
bill
merits
your
strong
support,
a
couple,
little
technical
notes
and
then
I'll
stop.
One
is
in
response
to
the
council.
President
I
wanted
to
note
that
section,
1.1
8.3
a
really
says
as
to
the
members
of
the
body
themselves,
that
is
decided
by
essentially
by
the
open,
meaning
law,
and
so
it
doesn't
lower
the
bar
there.
We
also
think
it's
important
that
people
be
able
to
speak
in
person
when
they're
able
to
do
so.
J
J
There
is
a
language
that
talks
about
using
this
in
a
way
to
provide
equal
opportunity
and
reasonable
access
in
how
you
use
the
the
technology
and
finally,
in
response
to
a
counselor
Mejia
that
same
section
addresses
persons
requiring
language,
interpretation
or
translation
services.
I.
Think
all
of
those
are
strengths
of
this
measure
and
I.
Think
in
some.
This
is
a
chance
to
communicate
back
to
the
public,
who
we
are,
what
we
stand
for
for
about
equity
and
inclusion
and
having
a
stronger
community
and
bringing
in
more
voices.
J
K
Good
afternoon,
thank
you,
chairman
Arroyo,
and
thank
you
to
all
the
sponsors
for
your
work
on
this
particular
docket,
but
really
also
to
Echo
my
colleagues
such
a
great
discussion.
Already
today,
it's
been
great
to
just
hear
my
name
is
Jeff
Foster.
He
him
I'm
the
executive
director
at
common
cause,
Massachusetts
we're
a
50
year
old,
good
government
democracy,
advocacy
group
we've
been
based
in
Boston
the
whole
time,
but
I'm
also
here
today,
to
represent
our
nearly
1600
members
who
live
in
Boston
in
support
of
the
docket.
K
Today
again,
as
others
have
mentioned,
when
the
pandemic
began,
it
forced
us
to
rethink
how
to
maintain
the
adequate
level
of
access
and
transparency
that
people
had
come
to
expect
of
their
government
and
we
celebrate
it
at
the
temporary
expansion
offered
to
the
open
meeting
law
which,
as
we
heard,
was
just
extended
for
another.
Two
years
we
saw
municipalities
like
Boston
use
this
expansion
to
its
fullest,
and
we
see
the
continued
commitment
to
equity
and
access
in
today's
docket.
The
win.
The
big
win
is
in
hybrid
it'll.
K
Give
people
who
want
to
participate
in
their
government
the
power
to
choose
to
either
attend
in
person
or
remote?
It's
our
Collective
priority
in
this
coalition
to
see
this
level
of
Equitable
access
made
permanent.
We're
really
hopeful
that
the
legislature
will
do
just
that
this
session,
but
we're
excited
in
our
advocacy
to
be
able
to
point
to
the
great
leadership
in
the
city
of
Boston,
for
what
the
gold
standard
can
look
like.
K
We
are
committed
to
working
with
you
all
to
to
get
to
the
gold
standard.
But
again
you
know
the
hybrid
access
to
all
body.
Subjects
of
open
meeting
law
would
be
really
big
for
our
democracy.
You
know,
long-standing
barriers
have,
as
have
already
been
referenced,
will
be
removed
and
people
will
have
the
power
to
choose
their
means
of
Engagement
in
a
way
that
works
for
them
and
their
families.
K
You
could
think
it's
really
important
to
go
all
the
way
down
the
T
to
City
Hall,
to
show
up
in
person
and
to
run
into
a
city
councilor
in
the
hallway
and
have
that
one-on-one
or
maybe
what
you
need
is
to
just
put
your
kids
down
for
a
few
minutes
in
front
of
a
Bluey
episode
and
jump
on
your
phone
to
testify
real,
quick.
But
again,
this
is
really
good.
It's
good
for
government
to
meet
people
where
they're
at
this
is
the
21st
century.
K
I
can
go
online,
real,
quick
and
buy
my
my
movie
seat
and
then
five
minutes
go
inside
and
sit
down,
so
I
think
it's
time
to
make
sure
that
level
of
technology
is
added
to
our
Democratic
process.
Lastly,
I
just
want
to
flag
that
the
timing
is
Right.
We've
seen
a
huge
over
billion
dollar
investment
recently
by
the
federal
government
into
Broadband
equity
and
access,
Boston
I'm
sure,
like
many
other
municipalities
across
the
state,
are
already
working
on
their
digital
Equity
plans
as
we're
talking
right
now.
K
So
this
is
a
great
opportunity
to
lean
into
those
resources
to
mix
hybrid
permanent.
Also,
last
session,
the
legislature
indicated
its
strong
support
for
municipal
I.T
infrastructure
and
the
resources
needed
to
do
remote
access
meetings
by
including
a
30
million
dollar
Bond
authorization
in
a
governmental
Bond
bill.
Now,
regrettably,
Governor
Baker
vetoed
that
Bond
authorization,
but
we're
really
excited
to
work
with
the
legislature
again
to
reauthorize
it
this
session.
K
In
closing,
again,
let
me
just
say
thank
you
for
today's
meeting
for
your
leadership
on
the
issue.
We're
hopeful
that
hybrid
public
access
to
Boston's
Municipal
meetings
will
be
here
to
stay.
It's
a
win
for
an
informed
electorate.
It's
a
win
for
an
elected
body
like
you
all
and,
most
importantly,
it's
a
win
for
democracy.
Thanks
again,.
L
L
L
L
L
We
will
still
be
able
to
participate
in
the
community
like
being
in
the
State
House.
We
celebrate
the
Ada
on
Zoom.
Our
voice
was
louder
than
ever,
and
I
participate
on
them
as
many
times
as
much
as
we
look
at
the
pandemic
and
what
it
taught
us.
Yes,
the
pandemic
did
have
some
negative
effects,
but
it
did
have
some
positive
effects
and
that
is
being
Harvard
and
be
able
to
use
them
and,
like
I
said,
my
name
is
daniana.
L
I
have
four
kids
as
a
single
mom
and
I
also
work
at
the
Boston
Center
for
Independent
Living
I
commute
to
from
Dorchester
to
downtown
every
day,
and
it's
hard.
My
youngest
daughter
is
eight
years
old.
I
often
had
the
anxiety,
because
I
rely
on
the
right
and
as
all
you
know
how
difficult
it
is
with
the
ride,
it
doesn't
always
bring
you
home
on
time.
So
I
constantly
have
the
anxiety,
if
I'm
going
to
be
here
on
time
to
get
my
eight
years
old
out
of
the
after
school
program.
L
I
also
have
a
disability
son
who
I
monitor
his
medication
daily
and
often
go
to
work
with
the
anxiety.
If
he's
okay,
when
I'm
not
home
with
that
said
and
done
as
we
look
at
the
pandemic,
it's
mostly
important
to
understand
and
know
the
importance
of
truth
of
having
a
choice
of
having
a
choice,
whether
to
be
a
remote
or
to
be
in
person.
L
But
this
is
the
important
of
having
a
choice
and
knowing
that
I'm
going
to
have
a
meeting
in
two
weeks.
What
Lincoln
are
they
using?
What
software
are
they
using,
can
I
be
in
person
or
can
I
be
at
home,
but
that
and
say:
I
have
a
choice
and,
most
importantly,
the
consumers
and
advocacy
we're
asking
to
have
a
choice,
a
choice
to
either
be
remote
in
person.
So
we
could
voice
our
choice
either
in
remote
or
in
person.
A
No
thank
you
for
being
here
today
and
making
this
space
that
you
prioritize.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
I'm
going
to
go
to
our
original
sponsors.
First,
starting
with
councilor
Braden
then
going
to
counselor
luigien,
then
counselor,
Flynn
and
counselor
in
that
order,
councilor
Brighton!
We
can
start
with
you.
B
Thank
you,
I
think
Daniella
just
raised
a
few
points
that
I
think
is
really
important
to
consider.
You
know
having
a
choice
is
very
important
and
knowing
that
you
have
a
choice,
is
you
don't
have
a
choice?
If
you
don't
know,
you
have
a
choice
so
publicly
noticing
these
meetings,
it
would
be
really
important
to
make
sure
that
we
State
whether
there
is
a
remote
access
component
to
a
meeting
to
specify
whether
public
testimony
will
be
taken.
B
You
know
whether
it's
just
a
viewing
opportunity
or
whether
it's
actually
an
opportunity
to
weigh
in
in
the
conversation
and
whether
testimony
would
be
taken
in
person
remotely
or
in
writing,
and
then
also
providing
instructions
on
how
to
request
disability
and
language
access
accommodations.
All
of
these
things
are
sort
of
enough
symbols.
If
I
would
actually
have
to
make
this
work
and
then
indicate
whether
video
reporting
minutes
or
transcripts
are
available
after
the
meeting
and
where
to
find
where
to
requests
those
or
how
to
access
those.
B
You
know
I
think
it
behooves
us
to
really
set
a
standard
for
how
we
want
to
continue
to
engage
with
folks
with
disabilities.
Our
seniors
people
with
limited
access
to
transportation,
and
then
people
with
work
and
family
obligations
wouldn't
otherwise
be
able
to
participate
in
our
democracy.
In
this
way,
so
I
think
you
know
it's
one
thing
to
set
it
up,
but
then
it's
really
important
to
communicate
how
to
actually
access
all
of
all
of
this
proposal.
B
So
I
really
want
to
thank
the
advocates,
for
you
know,
keeping
us
holding
us
accountable
and
keeping
our
feet
to
the
fire
on
this
one
in
terms
of
just
making
sure
that
we
come
up
with
a
an
a
a
plan
for
a
hybrid
access
to
these
meetings
that
that
works
for
the
folks
on
the
ground
with
the
end
users
so
to
speak.
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair.
C
Okay
on
this
meeting
about
remote
access,
I've
been
having
access
issues
with
my
computer
I.
Don't
know
if
you're
able
to
see
me,
but
whatever
I'll
I'll,
just
ask
my
questions.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
all
the
advocates
for
being
here,
I
think
with
counselor
Brandon
started
getting
into
this,
but
I'm
wondering
if
we
know
you
know
I
think
in
making
sure
strengthening
the
availability
of
meeting
minutes
or
making
recordings
accessible
is
really
important
after
these
meetings
happen,
especially,
you
know.
After
these
gold
standard
meetings
happen,
it
happen
of
hybrid
meetings.
H
C
I
wanted
to
make
room
if
anybody
else
wanted
to
respond,
but
if
not
I'll
I'll
go
into
my
this
second
question.
You
know
president
Flynn
made
a
point
about
like
an
important
part,
and
then
is
what
I'm
also
trying
to
get
to,
and
opening
remarks
is
an
important
part
to
public
hearings.
That's
about
meeting
and
talking
to
other
people.
C
So
do
we
know
and
like
once
the
zoom
meeting
ends
it
ends
right,
like
you
can't
stay
on
to
chit
chat
longer
or
you
can't
you
know,
do
the
work
of
like
really
organizing
with
other
with
other
attendees,
which
I
really
do
feel
like
is
an
important
part
to
public
meetings.
And
yes,
it's
really
important
that
folks
still
have
the
ability
to
go
in
physically
but
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
technology
platform
or
anything
that
exists.
C
That
would
allow
for
this
sort
of
a
way
of
managing
hybrid
meetings
that
would
allow
for
this
community
building.
That
happens
in
person
before
after
meeting
to
happen.
Virtually
I
know
that
might
be
a
difficult
question,
but
just
really
curious
in
terms
of
like
trying
to
imagine
what
you
know:
restrainted
a
gold
model.
Thinking
about
what
community
participation
could
look
like
I
think
could
be,
could
be
helpful.
H
So
I
think
that's
a
really
good
question:
I'm,
not
sure
how
it
would
work
in
a
hybrid
meeting,
I
think
with
remote
meetings.
There
are
certainly
ways
that
that
could
be
done,
whether
it's
you
know
inviting
folks
into
a
zoom
room
afterwards
to
you
know
to
chit
chat,
or
you
know
you
could
set
up
like
a
Discord
chat
or
something
so
that
people
could.
You
know,
ask
questions
of
of
counselors
or
make
follow-up
comments,
or
something
like
that.
H
I
will.
Just
say-
and
this
is
not
exactly
a
response
to
your
question,
but
it
made
me
think
of
it
that
I've
seen
that
there
there
are
technologies
that
classrooms
have
been
using,
and
this
is
to
the
cost
question.
There
are
technologies
that
that
I've
seen
in
some
classrooms,
like
at
bu
I,
was
at
bu
the
other
day
and
they
had
something
called
an
owl
device
which
is
basically
like.
It's
like
this
big.
H
Basically,
so
I
think
that
type
of
thing
you
know,
maybe
not
necessarily
that
company's
technology,
but
something
like
that
could
be
a
nice,
Plug
and
Play
option
for
for
boards
that
are
trying
to
do
hybrid
meetings
that
don't
have
the
capacity
to
set
up
in
a
room
that
has
you
know,
elaborate,
video
conferencing,
software
or
televisions
or
built-in
mics
and
cameras,
or
something
like
that.
So
I
think
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
excited
about.
C
Awesome
well,
thank
you.
Kade
I
think
I.
Think
that
captures
most
of
my
questions.
You
know
funny
enough
when
I
asked
the
question:
I
wasn't
thinking
about
members
and
community
members
wanting
to
talk
to
me
as
an
elected
official
I
was
really
just
thinking
about
Community
Building
among
folks,
because
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
organizing
can
happen.
That's
where
a
lot
of
like
let's
plan
to
do
this,
let's
get
a
coalition
building
can
happen,
but
good
point.
People
also
want
to
talk
to
there,
and
that
would
be.
C
D
D
Maybe
maybe
I'll
ask
a
question
to
Daniella
if,
if
she's
still
on
I
believe
she's
still
on
Danielle,
one
of
the
issues
that
myself
and
my
colleagues
have
all
have
worked
on
is
digital
equity
and
equal
access
to
the
internet,
but
have
have
you
experienced
any
technical
issues
or
your
family?
Have
they
experienced
any
technical
issues,
digital
digital
Equity,
related
access,
and,
if
so,
can
you
explain
them
and
maybe
give
us
an
idea
of
how
how
we
could
possibly
resolve
them?
If,
if
possible,.
L
L
Once
everybody
went
on
remote,
sometimes
when
a
lot
of
people
was
on
internet.
Like
me,
when
we
all
everybody
was,
you
know
on
remote
and
all
my
kids
were
Army
moles
on
the
Zone
with
school,
so
then
10
the
internet
tends
not
to
work
because
everybody
was
using
that
internet,
so
it
it
was
like
the
advocacy
that
needed
to
be
done
to
make
sure
that
we
got
the
right
equipment.
Maybe
the
equipment
that
I
had
then
was
not
so
good.
L
So
I
had
to
get
another
equipment,
but
then,
when
I
got
the
new
equipment,
then
the
equipment
was
not
compatible
to
my
computer.
That
I
was
using
so
I,
then
I
had
to
go
use.
The
I
had
to
go
get
another
computer
so
that
computer
could
be
accessible
to
the
internet.
That
I
was
using
so,
but
I
think
mainly
is
once
we
get.
The
link
out
is
basically
once
you
know,
people
with
disability
are
able
to.
L
D
D
Think
it's
going
to
take
the
city
council
to
work
closely
with
the
mayor's
office
and
the
do
a
team
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
financial
means
to
make
sure
everybody
has
equal
access,
and
maybe
maybe
his
might
my
follow-up
question
to
anyone
during
the
pandemic.
There
was
a
lot
of
people
in
my
district,
but
especially
in
Chinatown
that
lived
in
large
apartment
buildings.
D
They
had
internet
access,
but
if
you
had
more
than
one
child's
on
the
internet.
At
the
same
time,
these
kids
were
going
to
BPS
schools,
but
if
you
had
more
than
one
one
child
on
this
internet,
the
second
child
would
get
like
bumped
off,
because
there
wasn't
enough
internet
access
for
the
second
child,
so
so
the
second
child
wasn't
able
to
do
his
a
home,
his
or
her
academic
studies,
along
with
the
teacher
and
the
classmates
because
of
the
building
structure
because
of
the
internet
setup.
D
So
how
will
that
impact
us?
As
as
we
we
roll
out
this
program?
And
what
do
we
say
to
people
that
live
in
a
lot
of
these
high-rise
types
apartment
buildings?
In
my
district?
Many
of
them
are
low
income.
Many
of
them
are
immigrant
families.
What
do
we,
how
do
we
assist
them?
So
I
guess
that's
my
question
to
anyone
that
can
that
can
give
me
an
answer.
K
I'm
happy
to
take
a
first
crack
at
it,
Mr
President.
Thank
you
for
the
thoughtfulness
and
I
appreciate
the
question.
This
is
one
of
the
reasons
why,
when
we
began
advocating
at
the
state
level
for
a
permanent
reform,
we
knew
part
of
the
conversation
had
to
be
about
resources.
That
municipalities
would
need
not
just
to
accommodate
the
needs
in
the
moment,
but
really
if
we
want
to
make
this
part
of
our
new
normal,
how
do
we
address
long-standing
gaps
in
Access
and
one
of
those
issues
is
broadband
Equity?
K
So
again,
one
of
the
things
I
mentioned
I
think
the
timing
is
really
good.
Here
is
both
the
you
know:
massive
Federal
investment
in
Broadband
Equity,
it
sounds
like
Austin
might
already
have
access
to
those
funds
if,
if
not
I,
know
you're,
probably
already
working
on
the
digital
Equity
plan,
so
I
think
that's
something
that's
maybe
uniquely
to
Boston
and
other
larger
cities.
K
That
would
be
really
important
priority
to
raise
in
your
digital
Equity
plan
for
ways
to
best
utilize,
some
of
those
new
investments
from
the
federal
level
and
then
the
other
piece
too
again
and
I'll
just
mention
you
know
it
was
upsetting.
It
didn't
get
signed
by
the
governor
last
session,
but
we
were
excited
to
see
the
legislature.
K
Both
the
House
and
Senate
pass
a
very
sizable
30
million
dollar
Bond
authorization
in
the
general
governmental,
Bond
Bill
last
July,
and
we're
really
hopeful
that
they'll
do
that
again,
so
that
there
will
be
additional
resources
coming
from
the
state
for
municipalities
that
need
to
address
the
I.T
infrastructure
needs
and
again
to
quote
Daniela.
You
know
the
pandemic
is
horrible,
but
the
a
little
bit
of
a
silver
lining
was
that
it
helped
us
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
the
gaps
in
Access
that
folks
need
in
the
21st
century,
especially
around
Broadband
access.
K
So
appreciate
your
attention
to
it
and
again
I'm
excited
about
the
federal
Investments,
we're
hopeful
for
further
State
Investments,
and
we're
excited
to
hear
that
you
know.
Perhaps
the
city
of
Boston
would
would
put
some
money
into
it
too.
So
having
to
be
a
thought
partner,
all
down
the
road,
as
you
consider
the
best
way
to
utilize
that
money.
D
Thank
you,
Jeff,
and
my
final
comment,
not
a
question.
My
final
comment
is:
is
a
plug
for
an
upcoming
city
council
hearing,
which
is
tomorrow,
city
services,
innovation,
technology
hearing
tomorrow,
docket0417
order
for
a
hearing
to
discuss
digital
equity
and
Municipal
Broadband
tomorrow
at
10
o'clock.
So
if
you
guys
are
able
to
zoom
in
love
to
love
to
have
you
join
us.
Thank
you
to
the
panel.
Thank
you.
Mr
chair.
E
Thank
you,
the
kids
of
Civic
leaders
always
showing
up
and
redefining
what
it
looks
like
to
really
create
space
for
everybody
to
be
heard,
and
so
I
just
really
want
to.
Thank
you
all
for
your
participation,
I
guess
for
me,
it's
like
what
would
you
what
would
you
say
in
in
terms
of
accountability
and
how
we
can
measure
success
right
if
we
were
doing
this
right,
we
can
put
ourselves
on
the
back.
I
can
say,
hey
got
this.
What
would
success
look
like
in
in
terms
of
implementation?
H
E
The
Kate
say
it
all
y'all.
Does
she
speak
for
everybody
in
here?
We're
good.
Okay,
Kate
is
the
official
spokesperson
for
that
answer.
So
yeah,
no
I
I
appreciate
that
I
guess,
like
you
know,
I
always
talk
about
the
fact
that
I'm
now
in
the
system
that
I
fought
my
entire
life
and
what
we
really
want
to
just
oftentimes,
just
to
be
heard
and
sometimes
being
heard,
looks
different
to
different
people
and
I.
E
Think
that
there's
a
it's
a
key
thing
that
president
Flynn
brought
up
in
terms
of
just
privilege
and
access
and
people
who
are
have
more
means
right,
because
knowledge
is
power
right,
there's
people
who
have
it
and
there
are
people
who
are
literally
dying
for
it
and
I
and
I.
Think
that,
as
we
continue
to
have
these
conversations,
it's
really
important
for
us
to
to
know
that
that
accessibility
and
being
able
to
share
information
with
the
public
in
a
way
that
is
accessible
to
them.
E
And
that
includes
the
the
language
that
we're
using
to
you
know
uplift
the
fact
that
we're
going
to
be
hosting
a
meeting
there's
a
lot
that
sometimes
when
you're
new
in
government
you
have
to
like
you
need
a
Google
translator,
just
to
be
like
what
in
the
world
was
just
said.
So
I
think
that
one
thing
is
the
the
access
to
it,
but
I
also
think
that
this
is
not
something
that
we
can
legislate
in
this
point.
It's
just
about
us
Shifting,
the
culture.
E
Is
that
making
sure
that,
even
when
we
are
in
spaces
that
we
are
even
being
as
accessible
as
possible
to
community
and
I
know
that
this
is
not
what
this
conversation
is
about,
but
I
just
want
to
uplift
that
that
there's
a
level
of
for
those
folks
who
are
now
participating
more
in
hearings
or
in
meetings
and
in
city
government.
You
know
there's
a
learning
curve.
There
are
folks
who
have
never
even
participated
in
the
hearing,
let
alone
award
on
commission
meeting
right
and
so
as
people
continue
to
become
more
engaged.
E
If
you
weren't
able
to
be
there
in
person
and
that
you
know
instead
of
48
hours,
that
maybe,
if
you
don't
catch
that
video
until
a
month
later,
but
that
there's
still
an
opportunity
for
you
as
a
constituent
to
amplify
on
an
issue
and
I'm
just
curious.
If
you
have
seen
that
or
in
in
terms
of
Engagement
in
other
spaces
and
places
that
we
should
look
to
to
learn
from.
H
I
want
other
folks
to
address
this
question
if
they
have
an
answer,
but
thank
you
for
that.
Councilor
Mejia
and
you
know
my
understanding-
is
that
the
council's
YouTube
page
is
a
place
where
a
lot
of
that
information
lives
and
that's
where
I
frequently
go
if
I'm
looking
for
you
know
if
I
missed
a
hearing
and
I
want
to
catch
up
on
what
happened.
H
I
have
long
been
concerned
about
that
honestly
that
it
may
not
be
the
best
situation,
long
term
for
the
city
to
be
relying
on
a
an
outside
entity
like
Google
or
YouTube,
to
host.
All
of
that
information
on
our
behalf,
I
mean
I.
Think
we've
seen
with
what's
been
going
on
with
Twitter
that
you
know
somebody
nasty
could
take
the
reins
over
there
and
all
of
a
sudden.
H
You
know
this
whole
library
of
you
know:
government
information
of
public
information
that
the
public
relies
on
to
have
access
to
could
just
disappear,
or
you
know
the
city
could
be
required
to
start
spending
money
that
we
don't
want
to
spend.
You
know
giving
to
YouTube
to
host
all
that
content.
So
my
understanding
is
that
that's
currently
where,
where
it
all
lives,
I,
do
think
if
it's
possible
for
this
city,
to
look
into
an
alternate,
you
know
hosting
opportunity
that
it
could
be
valuable
for
for
that
information
to
be
hosted
on
the
city's
own
servers.
K
K
One
thing
I
would
love
to
just
shout
out.
Are
all
the
you
know?
Boston's
got
great
Partnerships
many
of
the
Gateway
cities.
Do
even
rural
communities
have
great
Partners
in
the
non-profit
space
that
that
sometimes
in
many
cases,
subsidize
some
of
the
telecommunication
needs,
and
so
they
are
also
just
great
partners
that
are
part
of
this
conversation.
Part
of
that
infrastructure,
some
of
them
I,
know,
might
host
the
videos
on
their
website.
E
You
know
I
appreciate
that
and
I
know,
president
is
always
saying
who's
going
to
pay
for
it
and
where's
the
budget.
For
that
and
I.
Think
that
you
know,
while
we
are,
you
know
having
a
visioning
session
and
trying
to
figure
out
kind
of
how
I
just
think
it's
important
for
us
to
have
a
level
of
maintaining
the
Integrity
of
the
our
own
property
right
and
to
be
able
to
ensure
that
the
public
knows
that
you
know
that
we
own
it.
We
we
are
mining
that
data.
E
We
are
mining
that
that
so
that
there's
essential
security
too,
so
I
think
that
you
know
there.
There
are
some
things
that
we
may
need
to
look
at
for
a
future
conversation,
but
I,
just
I'm
glad
that
you
are
bringing
it
up
here
in
this
space
for
us
to
really
think
about
what
that
potentially
can
look
like
and
the
city
has
a
lot
of
resources.
I
always
say
we're
we're
a
resource
rich
and
coordination.
Four
and
there's
so
many
different.
E
You
know
startup
tech
companies
around
here
that
you
know
there's
also
there's
bu
spark.
There
are
a
lot
of
different
schools
here
that
we
can
potentially
collaborate
with
to
design
something
that
is
long-term,
that
is
led
by
the
city,
but
that
also
gives
an
opportunity
only
for
students
to
be
engaged
in
designing
what
that
looks
like
right.
E
So
that
could
be
a
win-win
that
also
includes
Community
voice,
then,
in
terms
of
building
a
platform,
so
I
I
I'm,
always
part
of
the,
like,
let's
figure
out
what
is
possible
and
and
and
to
figure
out
the,
how
can
we
do
it
and
who
are
the
people
that
can
help
us
make
it
happen
so
I'm
encouraged
by
by
that
and
I'm
not
going
to
hold
everybody
hostage
for
the
sake
of
holding
you
all
hostage,
I
am
going
to
defer
whatever
little
time
I
have
of
any
yeah.
Thank
you.
A
I'll
read
it
now,
I'm
writing
to
inform
you
of
my
absence
during
today's
city
council
hearing
on
docket0452
regarding
ordinance
providing
remote
access
to
meetings
of
Municipal
public
bodies,
a
representative
for
my
staff
will
be
listening
in
and
following
up
with
me,
I
look
forward
to
reviewing
the
footage
and
following
up
as
need,
be
I
sincerely
regret
that
I
could
not
attend
the
hearing
this
afternoon
as
I
made
prior
commitments.
That
I
must
keep.
Thank
you
Aaron
Murphy.
A
If
anybody
has
any
any
further
questions
that
they
would
like
to
ask,
the
panel
I'm
gonna
give
the
floor
to
folks
for
a
second
round.
If
they
need
it.
If
nobody
needs
it,
then
we
are
going
to
move
to
public
comment.
We
have
a
few
public
speakers
here
for
this,
or
rather
people
from
the
public
here
or
this,
and
so
does
anybody.
Have
anything
they'd
like
to
ask
the
panel
before
I
go
to
the
public
comment
and
it
looks
like
we're
going
straight
to
public
comments.
A
I'm
gonna
ask
that
you
just
state
your
name
any
affiliation
if
you're
speaking
on
behalf
of
an
organization
neighborhood
if
you're
speaking
on
behalf
of
yourself
and
then
I'm
gonna,
set
a
timer
for
two
minutes.
I
tend
to
give
folks
a
little
bit
of
run
over
time
if
I
unmute
and
start
to
talk
to
you.
It's
because
you're,
probably
past
three
minutes,
and
so
the
goal
here
is
keep
it
around
two.
M
M
One
simple
fix
is
simply,
you
know
at
every
meeting,
ask
the
speakers
to
State
the
neighborhood
and
the
street
where
they
live
and
again
I'm
speaking
from
so
so
much
experience
being
on
all
sides
of
this
issue
and
hearing
people.
You
know
some
participants
in,
for
example,
bpda
meetings
claim
that
they
live
very
near
the
proposed
project
project
and
that
there's
no
problem
with
it
and
everything's
easy,
but
they
don't
and
those
of
us
who
you
know
who
live
here
and
run
Civic
associations.
M
We
often
know
that,
whereas
the
officials
running
the
meetings
may
not
so
that's
simple
fix.
My
main
advocacy
is
about
these
simple
fixes
which
I'm
just
not
hearing
enough
well
about
and
not
seeing
essential
things.
Changed.
I
want
to
thank
councilor
Lejeune
for
representing
constituents
regarding
improving
and
maximizing
the
use
of
Zoom
tools
or
further
public
for
Fuller
Public
Access
and
participation.
M
Thank
you,
president
Flynn,
for
referring
or
referring
to
City
councilors
accountability
to
constituents,
and
that
is
in
some
ways.
My
main
theme,
simply
using
all
Zoom
tools,
is
free.
No
funding
is
needed.
Volunteers
using
running
Civic
associations,
many
of
us
with
rudimentary
Tech
skills
are
using
them
for
full,
transparent
and
inclusive
participation.
Why
are
paid
trained,
Municipal
staff?
M
M
A
M
You
said
that
optional
best
practices
were
developed.
Please
make
them
all
available
to
the
public
all
the
time.
Clearly,
most
Municipal
meeting
hosts,
including
these
have
and
are
continuing
to
opt
out
of
using
these
full
Public
Access
tools.
It
has
been
over
two
years
since
residents
like
me
have
communicated
our
concerns
and
frustrations
to
you.
The
lack
of
response
and
improvements
unfortunately
perpetuates
too
many
Resident
cynicism
and
therefore
lack
of
Engagement.
M
The
city
needs
to
walk
the
Civic
engagement,
talk,
for
example,
so
I
would
appreciate,
hearing
from
various
electives
and
appointeds
on
this
call
explanations
of
why
the
city
is
avoiding
these
basic,
easy
free,
available
tools
and
full
for
full
access,
and
why
is
there
no
policy
for
using
them
training,
supervision
and
enforcement
for
consistent
use
of
them?
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
You
Lisa
and
I
think
I
actually
have
somewhat
of
an
answer
on
some
of
that
which
is
the
Q
a
and
the
chat
functions
on
Zoom.
We
have
to
preserve
all
of
this
as
open
meeting
Record
Law,
and
that
does
not
naturally
save
itself.
Nor
do
private
conversations
go
to
the
public.
Sorry
about
that.
That's
the
second
timer
go
to
the
public
in
that
way,
and
so
I
think
the
originally
initially
during
covet.
A
Those
features
were
taken
out
to
avoid
having
any
issues
with
open
meeting
laws
and
having
private
conversations
happening
during
a
meeting,
but
I
don't
know
what
the
status
of
that
is
now
I
know
that
that's
sort
of
what
the
reasoning
was
initially
just
to
that
specific
point,
but
I'm
sure
that
the
administration
will
look
into
those
other
things
as
well
and
see
where
we
stand
on
the
law,
moving
forward
on
how
we
use
these
tools.
So
thank
you.
Lisa
is
Joe
tringali
on.
I
I
The
preservation
Community
has
greatly
benefited
from
being
able
to
attend
meetings
and
hearings
remotely
the
option
of
remote
access
has
heightened
accessibility
and
inclusion
from
underrepresented
communities
to
take
part
in
historic
preservation
conversations
and
has
had
a
positive
impact
on
the
outcomes
in
their
neighborhoods
in
order
to
better
protect
places
that
matter
to
Boston
residents.
We
need
to
directly
hear
from
Boston
residents
and
virtual
meetings
provide
a
seat
at
the
table
for
thousands
of
bostonians
who
can't
get
the
downtown
city
hall
five
o'clock
meetings
on
a
Tuesday,
which
is
when
many
commission
meetings
are
held.
N
Hi
good
afternoon,
thank
you
very
much
Mr
chair
and
thank
you
to
the
sponsors
for
creating
this
much
needed
conversation.
My
name
is
Jacob
De,
Blake
court
and
I'm
a
resident
of
Alston
after
nearly
three
years
working
on
the
council,
I,
never
really
thought.
I
would
see
myself
on
this
side
of
the
virtual
chamber,
let
alone
that
I
will
be
speaking
on
an
issue
like
this,
but
accessibility
is
one
of
those
things
that
you
never
really
think
about
until
it
directly
impacts
your
life.
This
is
something
that
I've
experienced
personally
after
a
surgery.
N
Last
year,
I
had
trouble
walking
upstairs,
which
meant
that
I
wasn't
actually
able
to
go
to
my
own
home
in
Austin,
because
I
live
in
a
three-story
walk-up,
but
while
I
was
physically
struggling
to
access
spaces,
I
found
that
my
ability
to
access
Civic
spaces
hadn't
changed
because
there
were
remote
options
available
and
as
a
policy
writer
creating
spaces
that
are
more
accessible
to
more
people
is
more
than
just
a
symbolic
gesture.
It
also
just
makes
our
deliverations
richer
and
more
substantive.
N
It's
actually
what
inspired
me
to
launch
an
accessibility
town
hall
on
April
27th,
so
that
we
can
all
come
together
to
figure
out
how
to
make
it
easier
for
people
to
play
a
role
in
their
Community
I
urge
you
all
to
pass
this
crucial
ordinance,
but
also
to
continue
to
find
new
ways
to
make
public
meetings
more
accessible
by
providing
food.
Child
Care
Zoom
improvements
like
the
one
Lisa
has
mentioned,
and
interpretation
Services
as
well.
Thank
you
to
the
makers
for
offering
this
ordinance
and
thank
you
also
Mr
chair
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
A
A
All
right,
so,
thank
you,
everybody
for
your
time.
Thank
you
for
this
proposal
from
our
original
sponsors,
thanks
to
The
Advocates
and
to
the
members
of
the
public
who
took
the
time
to
attend
today
and
to
make
their
voices
heard,
really
appreciated.
Councilor
Braden
I
see
you
turn
your
camera
I'm,
not
sure.
If
you
have
anything,
you
would
like
to
say
in
closing.