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Docket 0177 - Hearing regarding the implementation of Community Choice Energy
A
Docket
0
1
7
7
on
community
choice,
energy.
This
is
an
initiative
that
was
authored
by
myself
and
my
dear
colleague
and
friend
to
my
left
at
large
city,
councilor,
Michele
Wu,
and
we're
also
joined
by
my
dear
friend
and
colleague,
the
district
city
councilor
Edie
Flynn.
As
many
of
us
know,
community
choice
energy
would
allow
the
city
to
use
its
bulk
purchasing
power
to
negotiate
the
cost
of
electricity
for
residents
and
small
businesses.
A
The
city
will
solicit
bids
for
a
default
aggregation
of
at
least
5%
class
1
renewable
sourcing
above
the
RPS
renewable
portfolio
standard,
as
well
as
bids
for
100%
renewable
opt-in
aggregation
option
since
the
start
of
2017
over
140
cities
and
towns
across
the
Commonwealth
have
implemented
community
choice
aggregation.
It
is
a
successful
model.
We
councillor
Wu
and
I.
First
filed
the
hearing
order
in
January
of
last
year,
January
of
2017
on
April
25th
of
2017.
We
held
a
working
session
to
introduce
the
issue
formally
before
the
City
Council.
A
Then,
in
August
of
last
year
we
filed
an
authorization
hearing
on
October
3rd.
We
hosted
a
marathon
meeting.
Many
of
you
were
there
at
the
winter
chamber
across
the
street
at
26th
Court
Street.
Following
day
the
City
Council
unanimously
passed
the
order.
We
were
delighted
to
check
in
on
progress,
as
well
as
to
talk
about
some
challenges
that
have
arisen.
A
We
filed
a
working,
a
hearing
order
again,
council,
you
and
I
in
March
of
this
year
and
have
been
keeping
in
touch
with
other
relevant
stakeholders
on
February
20th
of
this
year,
the
Environment
Department
released
its
RFI
request
for
information
and
we'll
get
into
more
specifics
on
that,
including.
Why
was
an
RFI
as
opposed
to
RFP
and
some
other
questions
that
I
know.
My
colleagues
and
I
share
before
we
get
into
opening
statements
for
my
colleagues,
I
did
want
to
pass
along
two
notes.
A
One
from
councillor,
Timothy
McCarthy
from
district
5,
writes
I'm
writing
to
apologize
for
not
being
able
to
attend
today's
Committee
on
environment
sustainability
and
Parks.
Hearing
as
I
am
home
with
pneumonia.
I
want
to
State
for
the
record
I
support,
my
friend
and
colleague,
in
their
efforts
and
fight
for
policies
that
will
help
save
our
planet
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
reviewing
the
tape
any
further
discussion
regarding
the
implementation
of
CCE
that
will
result
from
this
hearing
and
if
you
are
watching
Council
McCarthy,
we
hope
you
all
feel
better
soon.
A
Secondly,
district
1
city,
councilor,
Lydia
Edwards
writes
dear
councilor,
O'malley
and
colleagues.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership
in
advancing
clean
energy
for
all
Bostonians
I,
firmly
support
the
Swift
implementation
of
Community
Choice
energy
and
I'm
grateful
for
the
active
engagement
of
Boston
residents
on
this
issue.
It
is
critically
important
for
Boston
to
lead
on
issues
of
climate
change.
It
is
also
important
to
understand
that
this
process
has
numerous
safeguards
built
in
with
substantial
review
at
the
Department
of
Public
Utilities.
Well,
I
support
thoughtful
crafting
of
an
aggregation
proposal.
A
We
should
move
swiftly
to
ensure
timely
completion
of
the
lengthy
and
multistage
process.
Finally,
I
support
the
creation
of
a
formal
community
stakeholder
group
to
oversee
the
implementation
of
Community
Choice
energy
I
regret
that
I
cannot
join
you
today
for
the
hearing.
Please
read
this
letter
into
the
record
regard
Lydia
Edwards
city
councilor,
district
1
before
I
get
into
my
opening
statements.
I
wanted
to
turn
the
floor
over
to
that
large
city,
councilor
Michelle,
wolf
for
any
opening
thoughts.
B
Thank
You
mr.
chairman,
and
thank
you
to
everyone
who
has
taken
the
time
to
be
here
again
and
again
and
again
we're
very
excited
about
the
potential
and
the
prospect
looking
forward
to
getting
an
update
and
we'll
continue
to
push
for
a
swift
implementation
of
possible
every
day
that
we're
not
doing
this.
We
are
missing
out
on
opportunities
for
the
city
to
be
greener,
for
residents
have
access
to
that
clean
energy
and
for
all
of
us
to
to
do
our
part
towards
that
vision
of
Boston
that
we're
hoping
for.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
Thank
you
cheerily
and
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
thank
you
to
the
for
the
leadership
of
council
of
wu
as
well
I'm
glad
to
attend
today's
hearing.
While
she
had
the
City
Council
voted
in
favor
of
Community,
Choice
energy
and
clean
energy
in
Boston,
I
hope
this
hearing
today
can
help
us
understand
what
next
steps
are
needed.
I
know:
Community,
Choice
Energy
has
had
great
success
and
I
hope
we
can
work
towards
implementation
in
Boston
and
that
we
can
move
forward
with
next
steps
again
just
want
to
say
Thank
You,
mr.
A
You
councillor
Flynn
I'm,
going
to
as
my
prerogative
is
the
chair
read
a
brief
letter
from
Martha
Grover
who
could
not
join
us
today.
Martha
is
the
energy
efficiency
manager
for
the
town
of
Melrose
and
I
think
that
she
just
very
succinctly
addresses
two
points
which
I
wanted
to
read
before
we
get
into
our
panel
to
perhaps
offer
their
perspective
and
their
reflection.
It
reads:
the
cities
and
towns
around
Massachusetts
have
chosen
to
offer
an
affordable
electric
supply
option
to
their
residents
and
businesses,
which
is
five
years
ahead
of
the
state's
renewable
energy
requirement.
A
Welcome
Boston's
efforts
to
do
the
same
as
the
city
of
Boston
considers
its
next
steps
in
rolling
out
the
Community
Choice
energy
program.
I
offer
two
main
takeaways
from
the
Melrose
experience.
First,
the
decision
by
Mayor
Dolan
in
June
of
2017
to
temporarily
end
our
program
after
a
successful
18
months,
was
the
right
decision
at
the
time
for
Melrose
ratepayers
and
was
not
considered
a
failure
by
anyone.
A
That
was
five
times
historical
averages
and
the
manner
in
which
National
Grid
is
allowed
by
DP
you
to
set
basic
service
rates
as
an
average
across
all
three
zones
resulted
in
an
inability
last
spring
to
procure
supply
supply
bids
in
our
zone
that
were
less
than
basic
service
communities
and
ever
sources
territory
did
not
experience
the
same
disadvantage
last
year.
Our
recent
study
showed
the
success
of
aggregation
in
procuring
rates
less
than
ever
source
basic
service,
even
with
additional
local
renewable
energy
in
the
mix.
A
Now
that
capacity
prices
are
falling
again
in
our
zone,
our
new
mayor
inferna
is
resubmitting
an
aggregation
plan
to
dpu
in
hopes
of
relaunching
our
program
in
early
2019,
the
Melrose
Board
of
Alderman
unanimously
supported
this
initiative
at
an
April
meeting.
The
second
take
away
from
our
program
that
was
completely
unexpected
and
for
me,
has
become
one
of
the
most
important
aspects.
A
Is
the
raised
level
of
awareness
and
general
understanding
among
residents
about
their
electric
bills
and
where
there
energy
supply
comes
from
the
residents
I
hear
from
on
a
daily
basis,
with
questions
about
their
electric
bills,
are
senior
citizens
and
those
with
low
or
fixed
incomes?
Who
appreciate
the
fact
that
there
is
someone
at
City
Hall
who
can
help
them
decipher
their
bill,
get
out
of
a
bad
competitive
supply
contract
and
refer
them
to
our
local
ABCD
office,
for
heating
fuel
assistance
or
to
mass
save
for
a
home
energy
assessment
at
our
annual
senior
discount
fair.
A
My
table
is
the
busiest
because
no
one
else
is
out
there,
giving
them
the
same,
unbiased
information
and
assistance
about
something
that
is
unnecessarily
complicated.
Their
monthly
electric
bill,
even
after
our
program
ended
I,
continue
to
be
asked
to
give
electric
bill
101
presentations
at
local,
low-income
housing
complexes
and
at
our
Senior
Center
armed
with
accurate
information.
These
most
vulnerable
residents
are
better
prepared
to
handle.
The
many
direct-marketing
calls
in
door-to-door
sales
people
who
are
selling
overpriced
electric
supply
contracts.
A
These
residents
tell
me
that
they
just
say
with
confidence
that
they
are
in
the
city
program
and
hang
up
or
shut
the
door,
and
they
can't
wait
for
our
program
to
return.
I
applaud
your
efforts
and
I'm
happy
to
offer
any
assistance,
as
your
program
gets
rolled
out.
Sincerely
Martha
Grover
I
wanted
to
read
that
and
thank
you
again
to
Ricky
Harvey,
who
put
me
in
touch
with
Miss
Grover,
because
since
we
passed
this,
the
number
of
our
colleagues
and
cities
and
towns
around
the
Commonwealth
that
have
been
so
excited
about
this
as
excited
I.
A
B
A
D
You
hi
I'm
Alison
Bruce,
the
director
of
climate
and
environmental
planning
for
the
environment
counselors.
Thank
you
for
having
me
here
today,
I'm
very
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
and
I
have
two
major
updates
since
the
last
hearing.
So,
as
you
mentioned
councillor
Malley
after
consultation
with
the
doar,
we
released
an
RFI
in
February.
It
included
questions
about
municipal,
aggregation
program,
implementation
and
administration,
procurement
of
electricity
supply
and
program,
recs,
other
municipal
electricity
aggregations
and
indicative
pricing.
We
shared
the
request
with
energy
experts,
environmental
nonprofits
and
community
groups.
D
We
held
an
information
session
about
the
RFI
in
March
and
we
directly
reached
out
to
nearly
a
hundred
of
those
groups
seeking
information
on
and
responses
to,
the
RFI.
We
received
19
responses
and
13
of
those
had
extensive,
detailed
information.
Those
are
available
online.
If
anyone
liked
to
read
them
most
of
the
responses
touched
on
renewable
energy
procurement
strategies
and
how
to
structure
an
aggregation
program.
They
also
provided
information
that
will
be
very
useful
in
developing
a
CCA
program.
However,
what
we
didn't
receive
was
as
much
information
as
we
had
hoped
on.
D
Pricing
we
were
hoping.
Respondents
would
share
their
historical
price
data
that
would
allow
us
to
estimate
CCA
cost
savings
to
ratepayers.
We
are
still
seeking
this
information
on
pricing
and,
as
a
component
of
this
search,
we
are
looking
to
other
sources
of
information,
including
carbon
free
Boston.
We
expect
carbon
free
Boston
to
Evette,
evaluate
CCA
and
how
it
would
contribute
to
getting
us
to
carbon
neutrality.
Cfb
will
analyze
the
relative
greenhouse
gas
impacts
of
policies,
including
CCA,
and,
to
the
extent
feasible,
assess
their
long-term
benefits
and
costs.
This
will
provide
valuable
additional
information.
D
E
F
Thank
you.
It's
really
a
pleasure
to
be
here
and
I
appreciate
your
inviting
me
I'm
Anne,
Berwick
I'm,
the
sustainability
director
for
the
city
of
Newton
Newton's,
moving
ahead
with
CCA
and
before
working
for
the
city
of
Newton,
I
was
the
chair
of
Department
of
Public
Utilities
under
Governor
Patrick,
the
Department
of
Public
Utilities
as
I'm
sure
you
know,
reviews
and
approves
municipalities
proposed
aggregation
plans,
so
I've
been
at
this
from
a
number
of
different
perspectives.
F
I
just
want
to
start
by
saying
that
municipal
aggregation
is
a
hugely
significant
environmental
program
and
I'm
sure
I
don't
have
to
really
try
to
persuade
the
folks
in
this
room
of
that
municipal
aggregation
with
a
substantial
class
one
renewable
component.
The
component
is
far
and
away
the
most
significant
thing
that
cities
and
towns
can
do
to
lower
their
greenhouse
gas
emissions
far
and
away
the
most
useful
program.
Also,
it's
not
necessary
to
reinvent
this
wheel.
As
chair
O'malley
mentioned
over
140
cities
and
towns
have
municipal
aggregation
programs.
This
is
not
rocket
science.
F
The
most
important
thing
any
city
or
town
can
do
to
get
municipal
aggregation
rolling,
is
to
hire
an
aggregation
consultant
and
that
firm,
whoever
you
choose
will
know
the
answers
to
virtually
all
of
the
questions
that
Boston
posed
in
its
RFI
on
aggregation.
However,
it
will
not
be
able
to
answer
your
questions
on
pricing.
Trying
to
get
pricing
information
now
will
not
be
fruitful.
F
Mayor,
fuller
in
in
Newton
committee,
in
her
State
of
the
City
address
to
my
giving
a
hundred
presentations
over
the
course
of
this
year
to
community
groups
about
municipal
aggregation
and
I.
Assure
you
that
every
single
one
asked
whether
as
electricity
customers,
they
will
save
money
or
or
end
up
spending
more
money.
I
have
been
cautious
in
Newton
not
to
promise
to
anyone
that
they
will
save
money
with
a
substantial
renewable
component.
Of
course
we
won't,
we
don't
know.
Yet
what
are
we
haven't?
F
So
I
want
to
I
want
to
also
make
I
think
an
important
point
in
that
regard,
which
is
that
almost
every
household
has
the
ability,
by
virtue
of
energy
efficiency,
maneuvers
a
to
lower
their
electricity
prices
enough
to
make
up
for
any
potential
increase
in
price
related
to
an
aggregation.
So
aggregation
shouldn't
cost
more
than
ever
sources
basic
service
rates,
but
even
if
it
does,
there
are
so
many
opportunities
to
lower
a
households,
electricity
bill
by
virtue
of
energy
efficiency.
Okay,
just
to
clear
up
a
couple
of
points
of
confusion
that
sometimes
arise.
F
A
addressing
Martha
Grover's
point
I
just
want
to
make
really
clear,
because
Martha
has
sometimes
use
the
term
pause
their
aggregation.
You
can't
pause
an
aggregation
cities
and
towns
can't
opt
in
and
I
can't
popped.
Sorry
can't
pop
in
and
out
of
aggregations
individuals
can
cities
and
towns
can't.
You
can
understand
why.
F
That
would
be
the
case
right,
because
every
source
has
to
plan
for
its
load,
but
if
it
goes
out
to
bid
for
power
also,
cities
and
towns
enter
into
their
own
supply
contracts,
so
they
have
to
they
can't
pop
in
and
out
of
those
supply
contracts.
Individuals,
however,
can
opt
out
at
any
time
with
no
fee
another
point
of
confusion
that
sometimes
arises.
This
is
an
opt-out
program.
That
means
you,
as
a
rate
payer,
are
in
this
program
unless
you
do
something
to
get
yourself
out,
and
that
is
a
matter
of
state
law.
F
The
cities
and
towns
can't
change
that
it
has
to
be
an
opt-out
program.
You
can
give
people
lots
of
options.
You
can
give
people
the
option
to
go
to
100
percent.
You
can
give
people
the
option
to
opt
out
entirely,
but
as
designed,
this
is
an
opt-out
program.
So
that's
really
about
it.
I
just
want
to
emphasize
what
an
important
program
this
is
in
order
to
reduce
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
of
a
city
or
town
and
also
point
out
that
there
are
I
think
has
already
been
mentioned.
F
Some
could
sue
significant
consumer
protection
aspects
to
municipal
aggregation
programs,
people
who
of
who
are
participating
in
municipal
aggregation
programs,
can
ignore
all
of
these
calls
and
emails
that
ask
them
buy
electricity
from
me
without
and
they
don't
know
what
you
know
whether
some
of
these
are
scams,
what
they
cost
of
getting
out
at
some
point
in
the
future
if
they
choose
to
do
that.
So
these
are
trustworthy
city,
vetted
programs
that
protect
consumers,
so
I'll
stop
there.
Thank
you.
G
We
had
the
opportunity
last
fall
to
study,
Boston's
community
choice,
energy
aggregation
program
and
then
again
in
March
to
update
some
of
those
results
as
new
numbers
were
available
and
that
information
reports
and
updates
can
be
found
on
our
website
and
I
just
wanted
to
go
over
a
few
of
the
the
main
results
of
that
again
to
have
it
in
the
record.
Here.
I'll
start
by
wholeheartedly
seconding
the
very
measured
discussion
of
benefits
that
former
Commissioner
Berwick
just
provided.
G
Our
look
at
those
benefits
was
looking
into
the
past
to
see
what
has
happened
so
far
for
municipalities
in
Massachusetts
and
in
looking
at
the
history
to
see
what
could
be
possible
for
Boston
going
forward,
and
what
we
found
was
that
thus
far,
municipalities
in
Massachusetts
have
saved
money
for
their
consumers
and
the
the
reason
for
those
savings.
These
programs
have
very
low
administrative
costs.
G
There
is
the
increasingly
can
sedative
costs
of
renewable
generation
as
compared
to
fossil
fuel
generation
and
then
there's
the
role
of
the
municipality
in
being
big
enough
to
bargain,
in
a
way
that
an
individual,
household
or
small
business
consumer
isn't,
of
course,
in
addition
to
the
potential
economic
benefits
for
boston
consumers.
There
are
also
environmental
benefits.
G
Engaging
in
community
choice,
energy
aggregation
brings
environmental
benefits,
including
more
local,
renewable
energy
and
lower
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
I
can
speak
also
as
a
resident
of
Arlington.
We've
had
a
successful
roll
out
of
this
program
in
our
town,
of
course,
Boston
is
much
larger
than
Arlington,
and
then
any
of
the
municipalities
that
have
taken
this
on
in
Massachusetts
so
far
there'll
be
different.
Considerations
for
Boston
on
the
whole
I
expect
that
the
size
of
Boston
puts
it
at
an
advantage.
G
Not
a
disadvantage
and
Boston's
larger
size
will
put
it
in
a
stronger
bargaining
position,
both
in
terms
of
its
ability
to
bargain
for
rates
and
in
its
ability
to
bargain.
For
the
per
kilowatt
hour,
administrative
costs
of
a
managing
group
or
a
aggregation
consultant
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
about
the
results
of
our
study.
H
This
past
winter
brought
climate
change
home
to
Boston
when,
in
the
span
of
just
a
few
weeks,
200-year
storms
hit
our
city,
flooding
our
streets,
our
communities
and
even
our
tea.
Those
storms
must
serve
as
an
urgent
call
to
action
for
all
of
us
here
in
Boston.
It
is
clearer
than
ever
before
that
we
need
to
act
now
and
act
on
climate
if
we're
to
preserve
our
city
and
protect
our
residents.
H
Yet
in
Washington
DC
our
leaders
are
going
backwards,
not
forwards,
announcing
their
intention
to
pull
out
of
the
Paris
climate
agreement
and
undoing
critical
regulations
designed
to
build
a
sustainable
and
prosperous
future
for
all
Americans,
while
DC
slides
backwards.
Others
are
stepping
up
to
fill
that
leadership
gap
and
we're
seeing
climate
leadership
emerging
and
new,
and
sometimes
unexpected
places.
Cities,
states,
universities,
private
companies
and
even
individual
citizens
are
stepping
up
to
do
their
part
to
build
a
sustainable
economy
powered
with
clean
energy.
H
Last
year,
the
city
of
Boston
and
many
major
companies
and
organizations
joined
together
with
over
2700
of
their
peers
across
the
United
States,
collectively
representing
160
million
people
and
6.2
trillion
dollars
in
GDP.
To
sign
that
we
are
still
in
declaration
pledging
our
continued
support
for
climate
action
and
promising
to
do
our
part
to
meet
the
targets
set
forward
in
the
Paris
agreement.
H
Additionally,
Ceres
is
joined
with
investors
globally
to
launch
an
initiative
called
the
climate
action,
100
plus,
which
is
backed
by
over
250
investors,
who
collectively
represent
over
30
30
trillion
dollars
in
assets
to
push
the
companies
with
the
largest
greenhouse
gas
footprints
to
cut
their
emissions.
Boston
deserves
enormous
credit
for
standing
up
and
speaking
out
at
that
critical
moment,
and
that
message
that
Boston
is
still
in
helped
inspire
the
rest
of
the
world.
Stick
with
its
commitment
to
the
Paris
climate
agreement.
H
However,
as
important
and
as
inspiring
as
that
statement
is,
we
all
know
that
declarations
alone
won't
stop
the
waters
from
rising
and
it
won't
stop
our
storms
from
getting
stronger.
Even
the
boldest
words
simply
are
not
enough
to
protect
our
city.
We
need
to
back
those
words
up
with
action.
We
need
to
get
results
and
we
must
not
delay.
Thankfully,
there
is
no
cause.
There
are
cost-effective
solutions
out
there
that
we
can
implement
right
away
solutions
that
can
say
Boston's,
ret,
Boston
residents,
money
and
create
jobs
and
opportunities
right
here
in
our
city.
H
Shifting
from
fossil
fuels
to
renewable
energy
is
one
of
the
best
ways
that
Boston
can
make
a
big
impact
and
make
that
impact.
Now
across
the
country,
renewable
energy
prices
are
falling
and
in
many
markets
the
cost
of
wind
and
solar
are
already
well
below
the
cost
of
traditional
fossil
fuel
based
energy.
As
a
result,
businesses
here
in
Boston
and
around
the
world
are
committing
to
power
their
operations
with
renewable
energy.
H
In
fact,
over
a
hundred
and
thirty
companies
have
committed
to
going
100%
renewable,
including
household
names
like
IKEA,
Walmart,
Apple,
Google,
Nike,
Starbucks
and
Kellogg's,
and
even
TD
Bank,
whose
name
graces
the
home
of
our
Boston
Celtics
has
committed
to
100%
renewable
energy
and
hundreds
more
of
set
more
modest,
but
really
important,
clean
energy
goals.
These
businesses
are
taking
action
because
they
want
to
be
leaders
in
addressing
the
climate
crisis,
but
also
because
clean
energy
makes
business
sense
for
them.
H
If
Walmart
can
choose
a
hundred
percent
renewable
energy,
surely
Boston
can
as
well
if
we're
gonna
meet
the
targets
set
forth
in
the
Paris
climate
agreement
and
limit
change,
climate
change
to
well
below
the
2
degrees
centigrade
that
we
need.
We
need
everybody,
not
just
corporate
America,
to
make
the
shift
to
clean
power.
Yet
there
are
still
barriers
that
keep
Boston
small
businesses
and
residents
from
making
that
leap
to
renewable
energy,
most
lack
the
scale,
the
expertise
in
energy
contracts
and
financing
and
the
large
legal
teams
to
do
what
these
sophisticated
companies
have
already
done.
H
That
is
exactly
what
makes
Community
Choice
aggregation
so
important
by
pooling
our
buying
power
and
negotiating
together
as
a
city,
we
can
give
Boston
small
businesses
and
residents
the
same
access
to
affordable,
low
cost
power
that
major
US
companies
have
Boston
has
built
a
well-deserved
reputation
for
being
a
national
leader
on
climate,
but
if
we
are
to
achieve
our
goal
of
reducing
Boston's
emissions
25%
by
the
year
2020
and
in
doing
so
helped
the
United
States
in
the
world
achieve
our
goal
of
a
stable
climate
for
future
generations.
We
need
urgent
action.
H
A
You
Winston
three
quick
housekeeping
items.
First,
this
hearing
is
being
televised
and
streamed
so
be
aware,
if
you
wish
to
speak,
you
may
be
on
television
or
streamed
on
someone's
laptop.
Secondly,
wanted
to
thank
our
dear
colleague
and
friend,
city
councilor,
at-large,
Michael,
Flaherty,
who's
joined
us
Thank,
You,
councillor
Flaherty
and
then
third
there's
a
testimony
sheet,
sign-in
sheets
at
the
back
near
Ronnie.
If
you
have
not
signed
in
and
would
like
to
testify,
please
do
so.
I've
got
several
sheets
already,
we'll
make
sure
we
get
to
everybody.
A
So
we're
gonna
go
through
a
quick
round
of
questions
among
the
councillors.
We'll
do
one
round
of
questions,
and
then
we
will
have
a
brief
video
testimony
and
then
a
second
round
if
necessary
and
then
we'll
go
into
public
testimony.
I
want
to
be
mindful
and
respectful
of
everybody's
time.
It
is
the
middle
of
the
day,
so
I'm
going
to
impose
a
five-minute
limit
on
every
councilor,
starting
with
myself
and
I
will
begin
now.
A
Allison
delighted
to
have
you
with
us.
So
please
don't
take
this.
The
wrong
way.
I'm
disappointed
that
chief
Blackmon
is
not
with
us
as
well.
For
the
simple
reason,
as
as
Winston
said,
you
know,
there's
not
only
a
lack
of
leadership
in
Washington
there's
outright
hostility
to
the
issues
that
all
of
us
hold.
There
then
I
know
mayor
Walsh
holds
dear
that
I
know.
Austin
Blackmun
holds
dear
we're
working
to
try
to
help
advance
things
because
it
is
up
to
cities
and
towns
to
lead
on
climate.
Cca
is
a
great
tool.
The
mayor
supports
it.
A
I
know
your
shop
supports
it
I'm
a
little
concerned
and
I
think
you
know
and
berwick
hit
a
good
point
to
that.
The
way
we
submitted
the
RFI
may
have
tied
our
hand
around
our
back,
because
we
were
trying
to
get
this
off
the
ground.
So
I
guess
my
question
to
you
is:
why
did
we
include
the
pricing
info
on
our
RFI.
D
You
Thank
You
councillor
Mele
a
point
of
clarification:
the
historical
pricing
information
that
we
were
seeing
the
pricing
information
we
were
seeking
was
historical
pricing
information.
We're
fully
aware
that
no
one's
going
to
give
us
with
an
RFI
future
pricing
or
would
be
able
to
because
it
is
in
the
future.
What
we're
looking
for
is
a
single
point
at
least
of
compare
in
the
past.
Had
we
say
last
year
instituted
CCA.
What
would
we
can
tell
what
the
pricing
and
the
racks
would
have
been?
What
would
the
cost
have
been
to
our
residents?
E
F
Speak
to
Arlington,
but
Newton
did
not
do
that
to
my
knowledge
when
I
was
at
the
dpu,
so
I,
probably
or
not,
I
personally,
but
the
the
dpu.
So
there
are
three
commissioners:
I
was
chair
of
the
Commission
we,
while
I
was
there,
we
probably
approved
G,
seventy
or
eighty
municipal
aggregation
plans
and
I.
Don't
know
everything
that
occurred
at
the
municipal
level,
but
I
was
not.
Oh
I
didn't
hear
anything
about
cities
and
towns
going
out
with
RFI's
in
general.
F
It's
very
important
to
have
a
specific
aggregation
consultant,
very,
very
helpful
to
a
city
or
town.
That's
going
to
undertake
a
municipal
aggregation
program,
I
think
that's
what
all
or
virtually
all
cities
and
towns
have
done
in
order
to
get
the
kinds
of
information
that
I
think
you
were
looking
for
in
the
RFI.
Well,.
A
I
D
A
D
As
you
said,
we're
absolutely
committed
to
moving
forward
in
this,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
that
it's
going
to
be
a
program
that
that
does
not
adversely
impact
our
residents
and
we
think
that
pricing
is
an
important
part
of
that.
So
we're
continuing
to
seek
information
on
pricing
as
we
move
forward
with
other
pieces,
we're
looking
to
the
carbon-free
Boston
report
for
what
information
they
can
provide
about,
how
carbon-free
fits
into
our
path
to
carbon
neutrality.
We
hope
to
have
that
piece
in
the
fall
and
we're
continuing
to
move
forward.
E
A
From
you,
but
from
from
others
to
the
plastic
bag
ordinance,
because
we
wanted
to
look
at
a
holistic
approach
down
the
road
and
I
just
worry
that
as
every
month
moves
on
we're
we're
dropping
the
ball
here
to
mix
metaphors
way.
So
you
know
any
way
that
we
can
I
guess
my
last
question
I'm
over
five
minutes,
so
I'll
return
to
the
next
round,
but
maybe
very
very
briefly
to
our
three
sort
of
experts.
Do
you
think
the
way
Boston
rolled
out
our
RFI's
was
problematic?
F
Take
a
shot
sure
I
had
that
I
mean
I,
knew
nothing
about
Boston's
approach
until
about
three
days
ago.
So
the
last
thing
I
want
to
do
is
be
critical
of
what
Boston
has
done,
but
I
will
say
from
coming
at
it
from
both
a
Newton
perspective
and
the
Department
of
Public
Utilities
perspective.
That
I
think
you
know
probably
you've
gotten
useful
information
in
response
to
the
RFI.
F
E
F
And
once
you
choose
so
Newton
went
out
to
bid
for
an
aggregation,
consultant,
I,
think
virtually
all
other
cities
and
towns
that
have
done
aggregation.
Programs
have
done
that
we
got
three
respondents,
one
of
which
was
from
a
state
other
than
Massachusetts
and
clearly
wasn't
had
no
experience
with
our
state's
aggregation
approach.
So
we
effectively
had
two
highly
competent
consultants
bid
in
and
working
with,
the
consultant
we
chose
has
been
easy,
efficient
and
has
answered.
I
would
say
all
of
the
questions
in
the
RFI
that
are
answerable
at
this
moment.
F
D
E
B
B
For
the
consultant
to
be
able
to
help
us
find
all
the
information
that
you're
saying
that
we
need
to
move
forward
with
the
program,
understanding
that
I
guess
I
should
say
that
this
isn't
a
budget
issue
either
for
the
city,
because
the
the
consultants
often
work
on
spec
and
would
only
get
paid
if
the
contract
comes
to
fruition.
Is
that
correct?
Is
that
your
understanding
that.
F
Don't
kick
in
money
to
fund
the
municipal
aggregation
it
gets
funded
by
ratepayers
and
the
consultant
is
at
risk
for
the
whole
year
or
many
months.
Any
way
that
the
consultant
is
working
to
get
this
program
off
the
ground.
They
don't
act,
get
paid,
they
have
to
wait
until
the
supply
contract
is
signed
and
the
program
is
fully
in
place
to
get
any
money.
So.
B
B
If
we
know
that
the
way
to
move
forward
most
efficiently
and
without
cost
to
the
city
is
to
issue
the
RFP
for
a
consultant
who
will
help
us
find
that
information?
If
we
know
that,
as
you
say,
the
city
intends
to
move
forward.
Why
not
just
move
forward?
Why
continue
to
delay
unless
we
think
there's
some
reason
that
it
would
potentially
not
move
forward
so.
D
My
understanding
is
that
part
of
the
reason
we
move
forward
with
an
RFI
was
in
order
to
get
the
information
we
needed
to
be
able
to
draft
an
appropriate
RFP
and
get
pricing
to
set
the
budget
and
that
this
historical
pricing
information
is
of
use
to
us
and
important
to
us
to
understand
what
what
scale
of
of
RFP
to
move
forward
with.
Also
some
of
the
responses
to
the
RFI
indicated
that
it
still
is
an
open
question
about
what
type
of
aggregation
consultant
we
would
want
to
select
some
set
their
pricing
say
per
megawatt
hour.
F
E
J
D
F
D
B
B
D
D
G
G
A
couple
things
one
is
that
we
performed
a
survey
municipalities
having
similar
programs
to
what
Boston
is
proposing
at
that
time
and
found
exactly
this.
But
this
is
how
towns
are
doing
it
and
just
to
be
clear,
because
I
feel,
like
maybe
a
little
confusion,
is
entered
in
when
we're
talking
about
this
adder.
This
small
cost
per
kilowatt
hour,
it's
less
than
a
cent
per
kilowatt
hour,
very
small,
and
it
isn't
something
that
the
towns
are
collecting
and
paying
out
of
their
budgets.
G
B
I
think
at
the
last
working
session,
Maggie
Downey
from
Cape
Light
had
just
said
her
recommendation
from
doing
this
for
a
long
long
time
was
to
also
think
about
paying
consultants
or
external
vendors
just
for
the
services
they
render,
because
if
someone
was
kind
of
in
perpetuity
gaining
something
from
boston's
contract,
however
small,
that
is
that,
given
the
size
of
our
city,
it
could
end
up
being
a
lot
more
than
other
cities
and
towns.
Exactly.
B
Might
be
a
way
to
cap
that
I
mean
I,
just
I
feel
that
that
isn't
an
appropriate
excuse
or
sufficient
excuse,
because
we
I
mean
we
know
how
to
get
there.
We
know
what
we
want
to
do
and
it
just
seems
like
we're
waiting
for
information
that
if
we
just
directly
asked
people
for,
we
would
receive
we'd
be
able
to
get
I
mean
professor
Stanton
you've
already
gotten
that
information,
just
as
a
researcher
reaching
out
to
cities
in
town,
so
yeah.
F
So
I
am
not
aware
and
I'm
betting
well
I'm,
not
aware
of
any
city
or
town
of
the
hundred
and
forty
that
has
gone
forward
without
an
aggregation,
consultant.
I,
don't
think
that's
a
viable
option
and
in
terms
of
the
information
on
indicative
pricing
or
historical
pricing,
I,
don't
think
that's
really
a
useful
search.
We
would
certainly
be
happy
to
share.
Well,
we
haven't.
That's,
that's
not
gonna
be
useful.
F
There's
there
isn't
a
world
of
experience
out
there
with
respect
to
Greene
aggregations,
we're
talking
about
30
or
40
only
in
the
Commonwealth
and
two
or
three
aggregation
consultants
in
this
state,
each
of
which
has
a
big
piece
of
the
experience.
So
it's
not
difficult
to
get
the
historical
information.
How
how
informative
that
historical
information
will
be
about
the
future
is
a
different
question,
but
this
information
is
is
available
so.
B
I
guess
I'm
way
over
time.
My
final
point
for
this
first
round
is
just
Alison:
would
you
be
willing
to
commit?
There
are
so
many
people
wanting
to
help
and
resources
and
folks
who
have
the
information?
It
seems
that
you're
saying
that
we
need,
would
you
commit
to
convening
a
community
advisory
group
regularly
as
a
council
order
had
had
requested
and
that
we've
been
told
is
in
consideration,
but
not
yet
ready
to
move
forward.
I
think.
C
Being
here
and
your
work
on
so
many
issues
across
across
the
city,
I
know
the
goal
of
Community
Choice
energy
is
to
allow
to
allow
customers
the
chance
to
control
what
kind
of
energy
they
receive
by
offering
greener
options
that
many
local
power
generators
would
provide.
Lower
electricity
rates
enhance
consumer
protections.
C
D
So
we
we
have
a
number
of
very
active
outreach
efforts
going
on
around
renewable
energy,
energy
efficiency
and
other
programs
in
the
city.
A
lot
of
that
is
run
or
all
that
has
run
through
the
green
of
eight
Boston
program
that
in
that
includes
also
the
renew
Boston
program
that
is
out
there
doing
direct
outreach
to
community
members,
helping
them
connect
with
mass
save
programs
do
at
home
energy
audits.
D
C
L
You,
mr.
chairman,
he
had
obviously
support
the
two
lead
sponsors
as
well
as
community
choice,
energy,
so
I
I
can
understand
the
administration's
perspective,
not
wanting
to
roll
out
something
that's
actually
going
to
cost
the
consumer
more,
not
quite
sure
that
would
make
sense
in
an
opt-in
opt-out
situation,
but
I'll
just
be
from
from
the
perspective
of
competition.
Competition
is
good
its
healthy.
It's
it's
it's
good
in
sports,
that's
good
in
politics!
It's
good
in
business
and
most
definitely
would
be
good
in
energy
procurement.
L
So
whether
or
not
the
council
has
to
lead
an
effort
around
I
guess
sort
of
our
own
RFI
RFP
to
get
the
information
that
the
administration
doesn't
have
but
to
counsel
whose
point
I
think
that
a
lot
of
great
minds
in
this
room
and
outside
of
this
room
that
I
think
could
fill
the
gaps
to
give
folks
a
comfort
level
that
this
is
obviously
much
needed
in
the
city
of
Boston.
So
with
that
I
appreciate
it
and
turn
it
back
over
to
the
chair.
Thank.
M
You
mr.
chair
glad
to
be
here,
I
look
forward
to
reviewing
the
videotape
of
the
earlier
segment
I
couldn't
be
here
for,
but
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
in
council
was
the
co-sponsors
of
this
any
administration
to
get
a
Community
Choice
energy
I
implemented
as
we
went
through
a
rigorous
process
last
year,
wasn't
even
2016
to
begin
this
and
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
being
here
and
for
pushing
this
agenda
to
make
us
a
more
environmentally
friendly
community.
Thank
you.
A
N
About
this
city,
because
I
am
tired
of
having
this
feeling
of
dread
every
time,
I
selfishly
charge
my
phone
or
unconsciously
turn
on
the
lights,
knowing
too
well
that
I
am
damaging.
The
only
word
we
have
to
live
on
over.
My
selfish
wants
to
simplify
my
life
when
there
are
eco-friendly
ways
like
CCE
to
save
our
planet
and
still
have
the
energy
we
need
to
sustain
ourselves.
I
know.
O
I'm
also
a
Boston
Public,
School
student
and
since
the
first
time
I
learned
about
global
warming,
I
haven't
understood
how
our
society
can
still
burn
fossil
fuels,
while
so
many
people
in
power
acknowledge
the
importance
and
dangers
of
climate
change.
Young
people
are
such
an
important
resource
for
this
problem,
because
our
priorities
aren't
making
money
which
is
really
what's
distracting.
Adults
in
power
from
the
real
global
life
or
death
issue
cc
is
the
most
logical
solution
to
ass
emitting
carbon.
The
atmosphere
as
a
community.
P
Stanley
and
I'm
also
part
of
us
in
local
schools,
I
love
CC,
because
I
care
about
my
future
CCA
provides
us
with
many
ways
and
helping
in
dealing
with
climate
change,
of
course,
lf-cc,
because
the
crucial
factor
in
my
life
CC
is
something
that
will
help
us
in
the
long
run,
it's
our
future.
So
why
live
for
it
now
I
want
my
children.
I
want
my
family
and
I
want
the
future
generation
in
tables.
We
live
in
a
place
where
it's
safe
and
clean
and
healthy
environment.
Q
Hi,
my
name
is
Adam
and
I'm,
a
student
in
Boston
Public
Schools
as
a
young
person,
climate
change
is
something
I
have
to
consider
in
my
everyday
life.
This
issue
has
been
dumped
on
us
by
previous
generations
without
considering
all
the
lives
it
William.
As
someone
who
wants
to
grow
up
in
a
world
where
I
can
drink,
clean
water
and
breathe
clean
air
and
see
my
four
year
old,
cousin
Nathanael
grow
up
without
having
to
worry
about
Boston
flooding
with
sea-level
rise.
Cce
is
a
necessary
bare
minimum
and
long
overdue.
First
step.
R
My
name
is
Clark
Five
Feld
I
live
in
Jamaica
Plain
Community
Choice
energy
was
passed
unanimously
by
the
City
Council
and
signed
by
Mayor
Walsh
seven
months
ago.
You
need
a
path.
We
need
to
implement
Community
Choice
energy
because
it
gives
Bostonians
access
to
clean
energy
with
no
extra
charge
and
not
even
any
extra
inconvenience.
R
T
S
R
S
A
Great
work
each
and
every
day
as
well
do
a
second
round
of
questions.
Before
we
get
to
public
testimony
and
I
guess
I'm
glad
we
showed
those
adorable
little
movies
and
I
think
it
underscores
the
fact
that
Boston
wants
this.
There
is
nobody
that
does
well.
That's
not
true.
I
think
utility
companies
may
not
want
it,
but
other
than
that
people
are
excited
about
this.
A
The
fact
that
you
know
in
the
middle
of
an
afternoon
we've
got
this
from
2/3
filled
with
activists
from
all
over
from
every
neighborhood
and
I'm
being
somewhat
repetitive,
but
I'm
I'm
just
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
it.
We've
aren't
we've
been
through
this.
We
had
a
nearly
two-year
process
of
several
hearings-
several
working
sessions.
You
know,
folks
that
were
out
of
community
meetings,
testifying
why
we
wanted
this.
Why
it
was
important
advocates
in
this
room
met
with
every
single
councillor
met
with
the
mayor's
administration,
got
a
unanimous
vote.
A
There
aren't
that
many
unanimous
votes
in
this
body
on
major
policy
issues
such
as
this.
The
mayor
then
signed
it.
We
are
so
grateful
for
that
and
I
guess.
It's
just
a
frustration
that
we
feel
that
that
we're
being
set
up
for
failure
and
I
guess:
how
can
we
address
that?
How
can
we
fix
that
honestly,
tell
me
why
I'm
wrong
or
why
my
suspicions
are
misplaced
in
this
thing,
what
what
is
a
realistic,
tat,
timeline
and
approach
that
we
can
to
get
and
implement,
see,
see
so.
D
So
I
would
respectfully
disagree.
I
think
we
are
very
committed
to
community
choice,
energy.
We
agree.
We
want
to
make
it
happen,
but
with
a
city
as
large
as
Boston,
especially,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
proceeding
deliberately
and
and
implementing
in
a
way
that
does
not
end
up
causing
harm
to
our
residents.
We
want
to
do
it
right.
The
first
time
I.
A
A
D
So
on
that
point,
so
we
moved
immediately
to
consultation
with
the
DRDO.
We
are.
We
released
the
RFP.
We
no
doubt
hit
a
roadblock
RFI.
Excuse
me:
yes,
you're
right
the
RFI
deliberately
to
release
the
RFI.
We
got
a
lot
of
valuable
information
from
it,
but
not
all
the
information
we
wanted.
We
want
information
on
costing
that
we
can
take
to
residents
when
we
do
outreach
about
this
process.
D
E
D
A
A
If
we
can
do
two
aspects,
that
I
think
would
be
helpful,
I
think
everyone
in
this
room
I
know
myself
I,
don't
presume
to
speak
for
my
colleagues,
but
I
assume
they'll
feel
the
same
way
a
better
about
the
process,
a
if
we
actually
get
a
consultant.
You
know
who
works
on
spec,
who
will
not
be
paid
a
penny
of
taxpayer
money
until
he
or
she
until
we
get
to
that
point,
which
I
think
there
will
be
no
shortage
of
candidates
that
job.
A
If
we
get
an
actual
consultant
and
if
we
convene
this
community
oversight
hearing,
we
won't
have
these
herrings.
If
we
have
a
good
working
group
with
counsel
you
and
I
in
the
process.
Many
advocates
here
that
can
just
do
these
check-ins.
It
won't
have
to
be
this
formalized
antagonistic
approach,
but
it
would
be
so.
Those
are
my
two
ask
going
forward.
A
B
So
I
think
that's
key
to
getting
that
group
going
even
before
the
consultant-
and
you
know
hopefully
in
quick
succession,
but
having
that
group
we'll
be
able
to
help
evaluate
what
needs
to
happen
in
terms
of
the
consultants,
fees
and
negotiating.
You
know
either
the
cap
on
the
ad
or
the
amount
of
the
adder
etc.
It's
all
doable
so
I
guess
along
those
lines.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
little
bit
about
the
staffing
of
the
Environment
Department.
How
many
people
are
in
the
office.
B
D
There
there
are
four
primary
teams:
there's
climate
and
environmental
planning
which
oversees
a
lot
of
our
work
on
climate
change,
mitigation,
greenhouse
gas
mitigation,
climate
resilience,
climate
ready,
Boston,
Conservation,
Commission,
Air,
Pollution,
Control,
Commission,
the
zero
waste
Boston
process
and
others.
We
have
the
Energy
Policy
and
programs
division,
which
includes
our
municipal
energy
procurement
processes,
etc,
as
well
as
other
energy
policy
programs.
And
then
we
have
historic
preservation,
which
includes
the
landmarks,
Commission's,
etc,
and
we
have
green
of
eight
Boston,
which
is
our
dedicated
outreach
program.
B
M
D
B
D
B
D
D
B
B
B
D
D
B
D
B
B
B
B
B
Okay,
so
I
just
I,
guess
I
want
to
reiterate
councilor
O'malley's
two
points
with
the
committee
and
with
the
consultant,
but
this
the
98,000
funding,
which
is
a
great
thing
and
I'll,
be
very
happy
to
vote
that
for
that
I
think
we
need
a
lot
more
clarity
on
how
that
will
be
used
and
and
most
importantly,
what
whether
it
could
be
used
right
away.
I
mean
waiting
until
after
carbon-free
Boston
to
figure
out,
even
if
that's
funding
for
operations
or
funding
for
a
position
is
concerning,
because
the
fiscal
years
near
have
done
at
that
point.
B
G
H
I
worried
that
that
might
be
an
unnecessary
obstacle
to
evaluating
clean
energy
in
Boston,
okay
and
you
look
at
the
clean
energy
market.
The
cost
of
solar
power,
for
example,
has
gone
down
over
ten
percent
per
year
for
the
last
ten
years.
It's
a
very
dynamic
market.
When
you
look
at
wind
power
and
off,
we
don't
have
a
single
wind
turbine
off
the
coast
of
Massachusetts,
but
we
just
announced
a
winning
contract
for
800
megawatts
of
it.
This
is
a
landscape
that
is
changing
very
quickly.
H
The
economics
of
renewable
energy
are
changing
very
quickly
and
that's
why
you're,
seeing
so
much
corporate
uptake
all
across
the
country
and
around
the
world
for
renewable
energy.
The
business
case
is
changing
very
quickly
and
I.
Cautioned
that
perhaps
looking
at
historical
data
may
not
be
a
good
reflection
of
the
opportunities
here
locally
to
build
a
clean
energy
economy
and
benefit
the
consumers
of
Boston.
That.
A
G
Historical
energy
prices
are
in
no
way
a
good
indicator
of
future
energy
prices.
If
what
the
City
of
Boston
is
trying
to
find
out
is
what
will
this
program
cost
in
the
future?
Going
forward
then
figuring
out
what
it
would
have
cost
last
year
is
not
going
to
help
with
that
or
not
as
much
as
other
things
would.
G
A
You
well
thank
you.
If
you're
able
I
know
you
guys
all
have
busy
schedules,
but
thank
you
for
that.
If
you're
able
to
sort
of
stay
in
here,
some
of
the
public
testimony
I'd
really
appreciate
it.
So
we
have
quite
a
few
people.
I'm
gonna,
ask
to
everyone.
Please
keep
to
a
2-minute
limit.
I
will
very
gently
tap
my
mic
when
your
two
minutes
is
up
I'm
gonna
read
three:
you
can
line
up
at
either.
A
B
I
U
So
good
afternoon,
chairman
O'malley,
councilors,
Wu
and
Flynn.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
comment
today.
My
name
is
Indiana
Reed,
Shaw
and
I'm
a
program
associate
at
mass
energy
consumers
Alliance
we're
a
Boston
based
nonprofit
working
to
make
energy
more
affordable
and
sustainable
since
our
founding
in
1982,
and
our
mission
is
to
harness
the
collective
power
of
energy
consumers
to
accelerate
the
transition
to
a
low-carbon
future.
U
So
with
that,
we
are
strong
supporters
of
municipal
aggregation
because
it
offers
an
alternative
to
competitive
suppliers
into
basic
service.
Mass
energy
recently
released
a
report
on
green
municipal
aggregation.
I
just
gave
out
some
of
the
executive
summaries.
Hopefully
you
can
read
about
the
successes
we've
seen
so
far,
but
basically
aggregation
restores
transparency
to
the
energy
purchasing
process
by
offering
consumed
community
members
a
well
vetted
product
and
the
ability
to
opt
out
at
any
time
without
penalty.
U
With
this
in
mind,
we
thank
you
and
your
colleagues
on
the
City
Council
for
unanimously
passing
an
authorization
last
October
for
CCE.
We
thank
mayor
Walsh
for
this
endorsement
of
the
authorization
and
in
doing
so,
this
will
be
an
important
first
step
in
moving
the
city
closer
to
participating
in
electric
electric
aggregation
for
residents
within
region,
renewable
energy
and
then.
Finally,
we
also
like
to
thank
the
staff
of
the
environment,
energy
open
space
for
their
testimony
about
progress
to
date
and
the
implementation
of
this
order.
U
We
understand
the
importance
of
getting
the
details
right,
but
also
caution
against
allowing
perfection
to
become
the
enemy
of
good.
With
regard
to
historic
pricing,
it
is
impossible
to
rely
on
any
price
information,
historic
or
otherwise,
too.
Accurate,
accurate,
ly
inform
an
aggregation
that
is
unlikely
to
start
within
a
year
or
more.
One
purpose
of
aggregation
is
to
harness
the
bulk
purchasing
power
of
of
the
community
to
deliver
savings
to
residents
and
small
businesses
and
Boston's
greatest
asset
is
its
size,
and
that
should
be
used
to
its
advantage.
U
U
E
V
There
we
go
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
Michele
Brooks
and
I
serve
as
the
Boston
community
organizer
for
the
Massachusetts
chapter
of
the
Sierra
Club
I'm,
speaking
on
behalf
of
our
10,000
plus
members
and
supporters
in
the
city
of
Boston,
to
express
our
deep
concern
and
frustration
with
the
delay
of
the
implementation
of
Community
Choice
energy.
The
city's
Environment
Department
has
taken
an
untraditional
approach
by
issuing
an
RFI
after
the
City
Council
unanimously
voted
last
October
to
authorize
CCE.
V
V
Using
this
as
a
reason
to
fold
CCE
into
the
carbon-free
Boston
study,
which
won't
finish
its
report
until
late
October
2018,
is
denying
the
residents
of
the
city
the
opportunity
to
reap
the
benefits
of
CCE
right
now,
which
has
proven
to
be
the
single
most
effective
way
for
municipalities
to
aggregate
their
electricity
buying
to
stabilize
rates
and
increase
access
to
renewable
energy
for
residents
of
all
incomes.
There
have
been
many
studies
done
to
show
this.
We
don't
need
to
spend
another
five
months,
studying
its
effectiveness
and
we
don't
have
time
to
waste.
V
The
city
is
not
on
track
to
meet
its
goal
of
reducing
carbon
emissions
by
25
percent
by
the
year
2020,
and
we
know
that
implementing
CCE
can
help
us
get
there.
So
why
wait?
I
urged
the
city
of
Boston
to
do
everything
in
its
power
to
see
through
implementation
of
this
program
in
a
timely
manner
and
I
want
to
thank
the
City
Council
for
their
time.
Thank.
W
Hi
everybody.
Thank
you
guys
for
having
me
here
today.
My
name
is
crystal
net
gay
I'm,
a
freshman
at
Fresno,
State
University,
and
a
recent
graduate
from
John
Deere
Bryant
I
currently
reside
in
South
Boston
Massachusetts
I'm.
Here
today.
It's
a
full
support
at
the
Community
Choice
Energy
Policy.
The
reason
that
being
is
because
I'm
a
product
of
immigrants,
both
my
parents,
aren't
fully
updated
I'm,
like
the
opportunities
that
you
know
about
energy
can
have
on
their
lives,
and
people
like
that
are
the
unrepresentative
class
that
fall
victim
to
any
bad
energy
brokers.
W
Knowing
that
a
CCE,
something
I,
really
I,
don't
understand
the
hesitation
for
I.
Don't
understand
why
it's
not
being!
If
we
have.
We
have
the
opportunity
to
do
this.
Why
is
it
being
delayed
like?
Why
is
a
constant
delay
for
it
coming
from
a
country
where
they
do
delay
climate
change
on
policies
and
they're,
not
taking
it
seriously,
I
see
what
pollution
can
do
to
our
country.
I
see
what
the
fact
that
I
could
have
on
a
young
youth
in
the
country.
W
So,
knowing
that
there's
a
policy
in
place
that
could
prevent
things
such
as
this
nature,
it's
just
it's
just
shocking
to
me
that
we're
not
taking
advantage
of
this.
It's
shocking
to
me
that
our
current
officials
aren't
taking
this
as
seriously
as
it
needs
to
be,
and
that
instead
I
hope
that
you
guys
see
today
that
this
policy
would
be
one
of
the
factors
that
can
decrease
climate
climate
things
that
are
current
like
I'm.
The
kind
of
things
are
coming
in
our
country
too.
Thank
you.
Thank.
X
Gonna
skip
the
bulk
of
mine
because
Michelle
covered
it
very
well
and
get
right
to
the
point.
It
is
just
common
sense
that
aggregations
have
the
ability
to
negotiate
better
rates,
since
there
are
more
customers.
While
there
is
no
guarantee
the
aggregations
will
save
money,
they
have
more
flexibility
when
they
procure
for
an
aggregation
as
large
as
all
Boston
residents.
Wouldn't
there
be
a
pretty
good
chance
that
a
broker
could
negotiate
better
rates
for
us,
even
with
an
increase
of
5%
renewables.
X
Why
not
proceed
with
the
process
and
see
what
rates
we
are
offered
while
we
appreciate
Alison's
being
here
this
morning,
it
is
profoundly
disappointing
that
the
chief
of
the
mayor's
Environment
Department
would
not
attend
today's
hearing
and
answer
the
council's
questions
about
the
lack
of
an
implementation
process.
It
is
but
one
more
example
of
the
lack
of
leadership
on
important
environmental
initiatives
from
EEO
s.
It
is
one
more
example
of
EEO
s
listening
more
to
eversource
than
to
the
residents
of
Boston.
X
J
Everyone
I'm
Sara
Freeman
from
Jamaica
Plain
and
on
behalf
of
the
Arbor
way
coalition,
who,
in
general,
if
it's
good
for
the
environment
were
for
it
and
I.
Think
it's
pretty
open-and-shut
that
CCE
is
the
single
most
effective
step.
The
city
could
take
I
echo
what
has
been
said
before
and
in
just
simply
looking
at
the
pros
and
cons.
J
It
reminds
me
the
process
reminds
me
of
a
quote
from
a
fellow
JP
resident
years
ago.
That
process
feels
more
important
than
the
product
and
it's
like
no
one
wants
the
city
to
rush
headlong
into
a
bad
deal,
but
I
think
people
need
to
feel
that
we're
on
a
path
that's
getting
to
a
product
sooner
rather
than
later,
and
the
amount
of
research
would
be
the
same
now
or
six
months
from
now.
J
So
I
think
we
all
need
to
feel
that
it's
a
real
priority,
not
academic
research
project
and
I'll
close
with
a
very
small
quote
from
the
globe
within
the
past
week.
The
headline
is:
O'malley
calls
for
climate
change,
action
and
I
think
they
should
revise
it
too
to
O'malley's,
because
the
O'malley
here
is
our
Cardinal
Sean
P,
O'malley
and
I'll
read
a
little
bit
of
this
and
then
leave
it
for
the
record.
J
The
Roman
Catholic
Archbishop
of
Boston
led
hundreds
of
local
religious
leaders
and
scientists.
Appealing
for
action
on
climate
change,
O'malley
was
among
the
500
plus
signatories
to
endorse
an
appeal
calling
for
the
climate
crisis
to
be
addressed,
quote
with
the
boldness
and
urgency
it
requires
with
substantive
and
Media
Action
climate
changes,
an
ecological
and
moral
emergency
that
impacts
all
other
aspects
of
our
shared
lives
and
requires
us
to
work
together
to
protect
our
common
home.
Y
Afternoon
my
name
is
Joe
Okafor
and
I'm,
a
2017
Boston
Public
Schools
graduate
an
alumnus
of
the
Boston
Student
Advisory
Council
and
youth
on
board,
a
rising
sophomore
at
Boston,
College
and,
most
importantly,
a
resident
of
Boston
I
recognize
how
influential
Community
Choice
energy
can
be
in
regards
to
reducing
our
carbon
footprint
and
combining
climate
change,
and
that
is
ever
important.
In
a
coastal
city.
The
terrible
effects
of
major
storms
due
to
climate
change
has
bombard
our
media
with
horrific
images
of
tragedy
after
tragedy.
Y
While
we
were
lucky
enough
to
not
have
had
any
of
those
storms
heavily
affect
our
city
in
particular,
that
can
change
if
we
do
not
cut,
but
if
we
do
not
combat
climate
change
head-on.
This
is
exactly
why
we
need
to
implement
Community
Choice
energy,
as
a
young
person
who
has
been
born
and
raised
in
Boston
thinking
about
the
possible
negative
effects
climate
change
could
have
on
my
city
scares
me.
It
scares
me
even
more
because
those
effects
aren't
only
a
possibility.
Y
Research
has
shown
that
we
will
be
more
vulnerable
vulnerable
to
major
storms
if
we
do
not
tackle
the
issue
of
climate
change.
Right
now,
that
is
why
the
implementation
of
community
choice
energy
needs
to
begin
in
order
for
us
to
protect
our
residents
as
soon
as
possible,
with
the
storms
in
Houston,
Florida
and
Puerto
Rico.
Among
many
others
who
watch
the
entire
communities
be
destroyed
in
those
places,
will
never
be
the
same
again.
Y
We
have
to
take
action
now
by
reducing
our
carbon
footprint
and
increasing
the
use
of
renewable
sources
and
our
energy
mix
through
community
choice
energy.
We
can
do
our
part
to
help
prevent
catastrophic
storms
like
those
from
affecting
our
people
by
using
clean
energy,
and
that
is
exactly
what
we
should
do.
Thank
you,
City
Council
and
everyone.
R
A
You
Jo,
you
know,
can
I
just
say
one
of
the
the
great
benefits
of
my
job
is
now
having
been
in
office
for
eight
years.
I've
worked
with
B
sack
from
day
one
and
I've
seen
so
many
young
men
and
women
go
through
the
process
to
go
through
involvement
with
that,
particularly
on
environmental
issues
and
I,
just
have
to
say
Jo.
You
and
your
colleagues
you're
such
a
credit
to
this
city,
and
you
give
me
such
hope
for.
AA
A
Z
You,
my
name,
is
Andy
Beane
I
work
with
Boston
Climate,
Action
Network,
and
the
first
thing.
The
context
for
this
hearing
is
that
Boston
is
not
on
track.
We
have
set
goals
around
climate
change,
greenhouse
gas
pollution
reduction
by
2020.
We
want
to
have
a
25%
reduction.
As
of
the
data
that
I
dug
out
of
the
EU
s
budget,
we
had
a
reduction
of
12%
last
year,
we're
less
than
halfway
there,
and
we've
got
not
much
time
left
now.
Z
The
reason
that
we're
all
here
is
not
because
we
are
arcane
sort
of
fetishists
for,
like
the
utility
structure,
we
don't
care
about
where
the
electricity
or
what
structure
it's
bought
in.
We
care
about
acting
on
climate
and
preserving
this
world
for
the
next
generation
and
the
reluctance
and
the
desperate
lack
of
urgency
from
the
mayor's
office
and
from
EEO
s
is
galling
and
that's
what
got
so
many
of
us
out
in
the
middle
of
a
workday.
Z
Many
of
us
taking
off
of
work
to
be
here
to
say
we
appreciate
the
work
that
the
City
Council
has
been
doing.
They've
done,
the
homework
they've
talked
to
stakeholders,
they
get
it
they
we
need
to
act
on
climate,
we
need
to
cut
our
carbon
pollution
and
we
want
the
mayor
and
his
administration
to
do
the
same.
Thank
you
thank.
A
AB
So
it
should
come
as
no
surprise
that
I'm
deeply
concerned
about
climate
change
and
the
impact
that
will
have
on
my
children's
future
and
all
children's
future
and
I
think
we
need
to
get
real
and
know
that
it's
not
just
about
their
future,
because
climate
change
is
happening
now,
we're
seeing
it
locally
we're
seeing
it
nationally
and
we're
seeing
it
all
over
the
world
whether
it's
catastrophic
hurricanes,
flooding
ongoing,
relentless
wildfires
climate
changes
in
a
distant
threat.
It
is
happening
right
here
and
right
now
and
it
affects
all
of
us
particularly
vulnerable
communities,
but
I.
AB
Don't
think
I
need
to
convince
anyone
of
that
here.
Last
year,
when
the
Boston
City
Council
unanimously
voted
to
pass
Community,
Choice
energy
and
mayor
Walsh
signed
off
on
it.
It
was
a
moment
of
excitement
and
pride.
I
was
proud
of
Boston
and
I
felt
proud
to
be
a
resident
of
Boston.
There
was
also
an
immense
feeling
of
relief
relief
because
we
know
that
community
choice.
AB
Energy
is
a
critical
step
towards
mitigating
the
worst
effects
of
climate
change,
and
we
know
that
every
single
day
that
we
delay
in
implementing
it
is
a
wasted
opportunity
taking
us
further
away
from
achieving
this
goal
so
I.
Thank
you
so
much
today
for
holding
this
hearing
I.
Thank
you
for
passing.
Community
Choice
energy
and
I
urged
the
city
to
implement
it
as
soon
as
possible.
We
just
don't
have
time
to
delay.
Thank.
A
AC
AC
Particularly
since
the
last
year
that
emissions
went
down
was
in
2012
in
2013,
2014
and
2015
emissions
went
up
and
then
there's
all
the
new
construction.
Well,
there
are
three
categories
of
buildings
that
are
presently
before
the
BPD,
a
those
under
review,
those
that
have
been
approved
and
those
that
are
under
construction.
That
amounts
over
90
million
square
feet
and
what's
and
there's
nothing
that
I've
seen
that
indicates
these
new
buildings
are
going
to
be
any
more
efficient
than
the
existing
buildings.
AC
So
what
that
means
is
that
the
emissions
from
them
no
buildings
will
be
an
insoluble
plug
that
will
be
with
us
for
years.
In
the
disappointing
bottom
line,
we
are
probably
going
to
miss
our
2020
emissions
goal
substantially.
I
think
this
is
being
realized,
because
no
one
talks
on
much
anymore
about
2010
2020,
which
we're
talking
now
time,
starting
talking
about
2050
and
the
reduction
of
80%,
but
that's
32
years
away,
so
going
to
the
gas
leaks
in
each
of
the
last
three
years.
The
number
of
gas
leaks
increased.
AC
You
probably
know
that
leak
gas
is
mostly
methane,
a
greenhouse
gas
that
is
80
times
as
powerful
as
its
he
and
his
heat
trapping
capabilities
as
carbon
dioxide,
and
it's
no
longer
natural
gas.
Its
frack
gas,
which
contains
a
lot
of
harmful
chemicals
like
benzene
and
formaldehyde
people
with
respiratory
problems
and
pregnant
women,
should
stay
away
from
frack
gas.
Thank.
I
AD
AD
AD
AD
Electricity
supply
that
comes
from
a
greater
portion
of
zero
emission
sources
is
a
way
for
the
city
of
Boston
to
show
leadership
to
other
governments,
to
other
city
governments
and
help
transition.
Our
energy
systems
to
sources
that
don't
increase
our
atmospheres,
greenhouse
gas
concentrations
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
leadership
and
commitment
on
this
issue.
Thank.
A
A
I
We
need
to
see
CCE
now,
because
worldwide
people
are
already
drowning
and
dying
of
heat
and
we
need
CCE
not
just
in
Boston,
not
just
to
meet
Boston's
goals.
But
the
reason
to
that
we
have
these
book
goals
is
that
we
need
to
bring
emissions
down
worldwide.
Do
what
we
can
to
stop
the
Atlantic
Ocean
current
to
keep
the
Atlantic
Current
going
it's
slowing
down
already,
and
if
we
don't
act
now,
it
could
stop
and
cause
possibly
possibly
cause
and
kill
all
life
on
Earth.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
A
AE
Hello,
thank
you.
My
name's
Mary
Russell
I
live
in
Roslindale
I'm.
A
painter
and
I've
been
painting
the
disappearing
Arctic
ice
cap
for
about
five
years
now,
and
we've
all
been
very
talking
about
being
reasonable
about
going
forward.
What
is
reasonable,
what
isn't
reasonable
and
I
want
to
talk
about?
How
unreasonable
it
is
for
us
not
to
go
completely
outside
of
our
everyday
activities
in
this
process?
It's
difficult
to
imagine
the
situation
that
human
beings
are
in
now,
because
it
is
completely
unimaginable.
AE
AE
My
sources
here
is
the
New
York
Times,
the
level
of
summer
sea
ice
is
the
lowest
that
has
ever
been
recorded.
The
Arctic
at
some
point
in
the
last
winter
was
warmer
than
Spain,
because
the
jet
stream
is
slowing
as
the
Arctic
melts
and
parts
of
the
jet
stream.
It's
split
the
jet
stream
split,
moving
cold
air
down
to
Spain
and
warm
air
up
into
the
Arctic,
and,
as
cam
mentioned,
the
Gulf
Stream
has
slowed.
It's
estimated
by
one
researcher
to
have
slowed
15
percent.
AE
This
is
a
major
driver
of
the
climate
that
we
are
used
to
grow
our
food,
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
really
appreciate
the
work,
but
we
all
need
to
act
like
our
hair
is
on
fire
just
the
way
we
wished
people
had
act
acted
before
9/11
all
the
people
said.
Well,
we
knew
something
was
happening.
Our
hair
was
on
fire.
Our
hair
is
on
fire.
Thank
you.
So
much
thank.
A
A
AF
My
name
is
Alan
palm
I'm
here
in
my
role
as
the
director
of
organizing
for
350
masts,
and
we
are
a
statewide
network
of
volunteers
fighting
to
fighting
climate
change,
and
that
includes
dozens
of
active
residents
of
Boston
and
the
things
I
want
to
talk
about
briefly
are
urgency
and
leadership.
Cities
around
the
Commonwealth
take
their
cues
in
their
direction
from
the
leadership
of
Boston,
and
that
is
true
for
cities
around
the
United
States
and
around
the
world
as
well
and
has
been
made
clear
earlier.
AF
We
are
not
on
track
to
meet
the
goals
of
Paris
and
it
is
really
up
to
cities
that
have
the
potential
to
take
bold
action
on
climate
change.
To
do
so
really,
delay
is
a
tactic
that
has
been
employed
by
the
fossil
fuel
industry
for
decades,
and
delay
will
cost
us
millions
of
lives
and
that's
the
reality.
AF
AF
Stre
administration
to
prove
to
us
that
the
will
of
their
residents
means
more
than
the
profits
of
the
investor
owned
utilities
that,
if
you're
serious
about
going
carbon-free,
if
you're
serious
about
the
commitment
to
paris
to
upholding
our
responsibility
to
the
rest
of
the
world,
it's
time
to
implement
CCE
it's
time
to
take
action
now.
Thank
you.
A
AG
Thank
you,
councillor
O'malley
and
the
Environmental
Committee
I
think
pretty
much.
Everyone
here
has
covered
all
the
important
points,
the
urgency
that
the
folks
in
this
room
feel
about
the
issue
of
climate
change
and
the
frustration
disappointment
and
in
I'm
carrying
right
now
the
the
sorrow
of
the
missed
opportunities,
the
lack
of
leadership
when
it's
desperately
needed
it's
urgent,
and
yet
it's
not
happening,
and
how
do
we?
How
do
we
get
you
know,
as
Mary
Russell
said,
how
do
we
get
people
to
have
their
hair
on
fire?
AG
What
what
do
we
do
to
get
people
to
wake
up?
We
have
a
system
now
where
the
fossil
fuel
industry,
which
certainly
includes
the
Frank
gas
industry,
which
certainly
includes
the
investor-owned
utilities,
is
telling
us
that
gas
is
a
bridge
fuel
that
it
is
it's
almost
renewable
you've
seen
the
ads
on
TV.
It
makes
butterflies,
fly
and
birdies
saying
it's
cheap.
It's
wonderful!
AG
A
couple
of
weeks
ago,
a
group
of
environmental
activists
brought
to
Jamaica
Plain
and
to
Lowell
and
to
the
Statehouse
and
to
the
site
of
the
Back
Bay
billionaires
pipeline,
a
group
of
activists
from
Pennsylvania
who
are
in
the
sacrifice
zones
of
the
fracking
fields,
who
told
us
stories
of
incredible
destruction
and
damage
to
their
communities
to
their
personal
health.
We
had
a
little
ten-year-old
cute
little
boy
pulling
hair
out
of
his
head,
showing
us.
You
know
the
the
loss
of
his
father,
showing
us
the
loss
of
hair,
he's
pre,
leukemia
they've
got
neurologic
diseases.
AG
AG
Otherwise,
I'm
thinking
now
I've
been
thinking
actually
for
some
time
about
a
fellow
named
David
buckel.
He
was
a
nationally
known
activist
and
lawyer,
who
won
several
important
cases
on
behalf
of
the
LGBTQ
community
and
their
rights,
and
at
the
time
of
his
recent
death,
he
was
known
as
the
composting
king
of
Brooklyn
mr.
buckle
self-immolated
last
month
in
Prospect
Park
Brooklyn.
AG
His
suicide
note
included
some
of
the
following.
Most
humans
on
the
planet,
now
breathe
air
made
unhealthy
by
fossil
fuels
and
many
died
early
deaths.
As
a
result,
my
early
death
by
fossil
fuel
reflects
what
we
are
doing
to
ourselves.
He
added
honorable
purpose
in
life
invites
honorable
purpose
and
depth.
AG
A
A
T
T
Who
may
not
have
the
education
to
understand
various
ways
of
being
involved,
and
this
is
also
a
way
of
spreading
information
and
hope
about
how
to
be
part
of
something
that
that
is
hopeful
and
and
that
can
actually
help
the
planet
when
sometimes
it
feels
very
overwhelming
that
there's
there's
not
much
out
there,
so
it
educates
people
about
ways
to
change
the
world
that
might
not
have
access
to
that.
So
I
really
encourage
CCE
to
be
to
be
a
reality
and
to
give
everyone
an
opportunity.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
K
I'm
Claire
Humphrey
I'm
from
mothers
out
front
and
I
have
a
fourteen-year-old
son
as
well
as
a
16
year
old
daughter
and
I
recently
spent
about
three
days
trying
to
get
my
son
to
put
his
baseball
uniform
in
the
car
to
go
back
to
school.
Three
days
on
this
mom
I
know
mom
after
I
play
basketball
with
my
friend's
mom
I
need
to
finish
my
homework
first,
so
you
know,
and
I
wasn't
asking
him
to
actually
return
it.
K
This
is
not
guaranteeing
that
he
will
get
it
out
of
the
car
on
his
way
out
of
the
car
to
school
or
that
he
will
find
his
coach
and
actually
return.
The
thing
just
gets
started.
So
when
I
hear
mayor
Waltons
office
in
Austin
Blackman's
office,
saying
we
need
to
wait
until
after
until
I
finished
playing
with
the
other
mayor's
at
the
conference
or
after
this.
AH
AH
Thank
You
City
counselors
and
for
holding
this
hearing
I'm
a
little
bit
frustrated
that
this
hearing
is
even
necessary
and
I
want
to
make
three
short
points.
I've
I'm,
a
scientist
I've
been
a
scientist,
since
probably
I
was
a
little
kid,
so
I've
been
doing
it
in
cancer
research
for
over
20
years.
Lately,
more
training,
people
for
the
biotech
industry
and
I
know
science
is
very
important.
It's
very
important
that
we
understand
things
in
order
to
act.
We
do
science
if
we
don't
understand
something.
AH
If
we
understand
something
fully,
science
should
not
be
an
excuse
not
to
act.
Oh
let's
do
another
study,
let's
figure
this
out
in
a
in
a
better
way.
If
I'm
a
doctor,
I
can't
wait
for
the
researchers
to
cure
find
the
cause
of
disease
in
20
years.
If
my
patient
is
here
now-
and
the
same
is
true
for
the
environment,
if
I
look
at
our
dysfunctional
administration
in
Washington,
we
have
to
do
more
studies.
We
really
don't
understand
whether
climate
change
is
human-made
so
doing
more.
AH
Studies
can
be
an
excuse
to
do
not
act
and
we
see
a
lot
of
people
that
are
doing
that.
The
second
point
is:
coming
back
to
CCE
I've
been
involved
with
a
Boston
Climate
Action
Network
now
for
three
months
and
learned
a
little
bit
about
all
the
things
that
need
to
be
done.
I
read
the
Boston
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
the
climate
action
plans
there
is
so
much
to
do
see
see
is
a
very
small
of
that
there
is
transportation.
There
is
buildings,
as
we
heard,
there's
the
gas
infrastructure.
AH
Why
does
the
city
spend
so
much
effort
on
that
little
thing
trying
to
perfection
8
it
if
they
could
outsource
it.
We
heard
the
testimony
of
how
it
seems
like
the
staff
is
overworked.
There
are
so
many
things
that
are
going
on
there.
It's
not
clear
who
is
doing
what
and
CC
is
something
that
could
be
outsourced
so
I.
Don't
understand
why
the
city
embraces.
Oh,
let's
work
on
CC
e.
Let's
make
it
more
perfect,
they
can't
afford
to
do
that
and
the
last
point
I
want
to
make
the
the
testimony
I
was
very
disappointed.
AH
How
evasive?
How
very
few
answers?
How
often
the
lady
had
to
say
I
don't
know
this
shows
the
EOS
Department
is
not
taking
climate
change
serious,
it
shows,
as
we
have
heard,
they
are
not
on
track
for
our
2020
goals
and
I.
Think
this
department
needs
a
major
shake-up
to
me.
It's
a
dysfunctional
organization.
That's
all
I
wanted
to
say.
A
Anybody
else
going
once
going
twice:
I
want
to
keep
it
to
two
hours
or
about
two
hours.
Five
minutes
so
well
done
just
in
conclusion,
so
I
am
NOT
going
to
adjourn
this
hearing.
I
am
going
to
recess
this
hearing.
I
hope
to
not
have
to
have
all
of
us
back
here
in
a
hearing,
because
again,
if
we
can,
with
counsel
Rue
and
I
working
together
with
the
administration
established,
some
sort
of
a
working
group
I
think
that's
a
much
better.
That's
a
what
the
legislation
called
for
and
B
it's
a
better
approach
going
forward.
A
So
you
know
I
share
the
frustration.
I
think
our
message
was
was
heard
loud
and
clearly
and
again
you
just
have
my
word
and
I
know:
councillor
Woo's
word
we're
gonna.
Do
everything
I
can
to
make
sure
this
is
done
correctly.
This
is
done
well
and
we
stop
tying
our
hands
behind
our
back
as
we
try
to
move
this
ball
down
the
field.
Commissioner
Berwick.