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Docket #0348 - Order for a hearing regarding equity in the City of Boston Procurement and Purchasing.
A
The
Committee
on
government
operations
today
is
Thursday
May,
2nd
2019.
We
are
here
today
to
discuss
docket
zero,
three
four,
eight.
It's
an
order
for
a
hearing
regarding
equity
in
the
City
of
Austin
procurement.
In
purchasing
this
hearing
is
being
streamlined
on
Boston
City,
Council
TV
online,
it's
also
being
recorded
and
will
be
broadcast
on
Comcast
channel
eight
RCN
channel
82
and
Verizon
1964
at
a
later
date,
docket
zero.
A
Three
four
eight
was
sponsored
by
my
colleague
City
Council
Michele
Wu,
to
my
left
and
city
council,
Kim
Janey,
to
my
right
assigned
to
the
committee
back
on
February,
the
3rd
2019.
This
body
passed
the
equity
in
the
City
of
Austin
contracts,
ordinance
back
in
December
of
2017.
It
was
signed
into
law
by
Mayor
Walsh
on
December
14th
of
2017.
This
ordinance
included
changes
to
the
city's
AI
RFP
process,
as
well
as
requirements
for
quarterly
reporting
on
total
dollars
expended
on
procurement
contracts.
A
To
date,
the
number
and
types
of
contracts
entered
into
and
the
number
and
value
of
contracts
awarded
to
businesses
owned
by
women
people
of
color
in
Boston
residents.
Today's
hearing
is
to
discuss
the
results
of
the
report
on
the
procurement
process
and
now
turn
it
over
to
lead
sponsors.
My
colleague,
City
Council
Michelle,
will
followed
by
city
councilor
Kim
Janey
for
any
additional
opening
comments.
Then
we'll
get
right
into
it.
We
have
our
first
panel
here
as
a
chief
of
economic
development
Barros.
A
We
have
the
director
of
equity
and
inclusion,
selena
virus
Milner
and
we
also
are
joined
by
director
of
small
business
Stacey
Williams,
so
welcome
to
all
of
you
from
the
administration
and
I'll
give
my
colleagues
an
opportunity
to
give
us
their
thoughts.
Chair,
recognizes,
counsel,
Michele,
whoo,
Thank.
B
You,
mr.
chairman
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
making
sure
we
had
an
expedited
time
in
the
chamber,
given
the
the
busyness
of
budget
season.
So
thank
you
to
all
the
staff
for
accommodating
that.
Thank
you
to
our
panelists.
Thank
you
to
my
co,
sponsor
Celtic
Kim
Janey
for
making
sure
that
we
are.
We
are
keeping
the
attention
on
this.
B
Each
of
the
city's
entire
spend
discretionary
spend
so
looking
forward
to
digging
into
those
hearing
what
the
update
is
and
just
really
appreciate.
My
colleagues
time
in
the
administration
I
know
you
live
and
breathe
this
and
and
we're
lucky
to
get
a
little
bit
of
your
insight
in
how
we
can
continue
moving
this
forward.
So
we're
getting
above
1%
and
hopefully
a
lot
higher
beyond
that
as
well.
So
thank
you
very
much,
looking
forward
to
today's
conversation
with
all
the
community
leaders
in
the
room.
Thank.
C
You
mr.
chair
on
first
I
just
want
to
thank
my
colleague,
councillor
Wu
for
her
partnership
and
her
leadership
on
this
important
issue
dating
back
to
before
I
even
arrived
on
the
Boston
City
Council
wanna
also
acknowledge
our
former
colleague
and
now
congresswoman
Ayanna
Presley
for
her
incredible
work
on
this
I'm.
C
Someone
who's
deeply
committed
to
equity
inclusion,
diversity
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
close
to
1
billion
dollars
that
we
are
spending
as
a
city
does
land
up
and
end
up
in
the
hands
of
people
who
live
in
our
city,
people
of
color
and
women
entrepreneurs.
So,
looking
forward
to
a
productive
hearing,
thank
you
and
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
panelists
as
well
as
the
community
advocates
as
well.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
chairman
Flaherty
council,
whoo,
councilor
Janie.
Thank
you
for
your
continued
leadership
on
the
matter.
For
the
record,
my
name
is
John.
Barrows
chief
economic
development
for
the
city
of
Boston
to
my
left
is
Alina.
Barros
Milner,
who
was
the
director
of
equity
inclusion
and
to
my
right,
is
Stacy
Williams,
who
is
the
certification
man
management
on
behalf
of
me
and
Martin
J
Walsh
I.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
discuss
the
issue
of
equity
in
the
city's
procurement
process.
D
Given
the
city's
incredible
spending
power
of
close
to
a
billion
dollars,
it
is
imperative
that
we
have
municipal
policies
that
encourage
and
promote
engagement
with
women-owned
and
minority-owned
businesses,
particularly
for
our
own
contracts.
This
effort,
however,
is
not
without
its
challenges.
As
you
know,
with
respect
to
construction,
Boston
did
have
a
robust
and
successful
program
that
required
contractor
general
contractors
to
award
15%
of
the
total
contracts
to
minority-owned
businesses
and
5%
to
women-owned
businesses.
D
Unfortunately,
the
program
was
eliminated
due
to
a
court
ruling
in
the
early
2000s
and
RW,
and
WBE
and
MBE
numbers
have
never
recovered.
However,
we
have
identified
and
are
working
on
several
policies
to
reverse
that
troubling
trend
to
begin.
We
are
in
the
process
of
conducting
the
city's
first
disparity
study
since
2003
to
identify
and
address
gaps
and
ultimately
strengthen
the
city's
procurement
practices
across
all
departments
and
provide
an
enhanced
platform
for
future
equity
based
policies.
D
Additionally,
in
October
2018
mayor
Walsh
announced
at
the
Department
of
Neighborhood
Development
DND
and
Boston's
Planning
and
Development
agents,
the
PDA
will
include
criteria
to
promote
diversity
and
inclusion
and
prevent
displacement
in
all
requests
for
proposal
released
for
public
land
moving
forward.
The
first
was
the
for
RFPs
that
were
released
for
land
in
the
Dudley
Square
area,
and
we
have
successfully
received
applications
from
very
diverse
development
groups,
and
we
are
really
happy
with
the
first
leg
of
response.
D
I
also
want
to
encourage
an
open
dialogue
and
a
partnership
with
the
council
so
that
we
can
look
at
and
address
the
state's
procurement
laws,
specifically
chapter
30b,
which
requires
Boston
to
accept
the
lowest
bid
for
any
any
contract
over
$10,000.
We
should
and
must
have
the
ability
to
take
into
account
more
factors
when
selecting
contractors
in
reassessing
30b.
It
is
my
hope
that
we
can
provide
the
city
with
the
flexibility
needed
to
make
a
meaningful
impact
on
our
spending
powers.
D
I
am
optimistic
that
the
disparity
study,
coupled
with
an
assessment
of
a
current
procurement
laws,
will
allow
us
to
implement
policies
that
can
improve
the
number
of
city
contracts
awarded
to
women
and
people
of
color.
I.
Do
want
to
be
clear,
however,
that
it
is
not
all
bad
news.
As
you
will
hear
from
the
director
of
equity
inclusion,
Salinas
presentation,
you
are
you're
gonna,
see
some
improvements
in
numbers
slight
and
somewhat
immaterial,
but
trending
in
the
right
direction.
D
This
is
being
done
by
creating
strong
partnerships
between
our
equity
inclusion
unit
and
departments
such
as
Public,
Works
and
Parks.
We
are
eager
to
participate
with.
You
continue
participate
with
you
on
this
work.
I
am
confident
that
our
continued
engagement
with
city
departments
will
yield
additional
successes
even
prior
to
the
completion
of
this
disparity
study
and
other
policy
discussions
at
this
point,
I
want
to
turn
it
over
to
Selena
to
go
into
more
specifics
on
our
efforts.
D
E
Hi
there
good
afternoon
my
name
is
Selena
Barrios
Milner
I'm,
a
director
of
equity
and
inclusion
at
the
Office
of
Economic
Development
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
a
little
more
about
what
we're
doing
to
both
develop
the
supply
of
women
and
minority
vendors
and
create
the
demand
so
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
and
start
off
in
the
presentation.
With
a
look
at
our
current
certified
vendor
pool.
Do
we
have.
E
E
E
There
we
go
all
right,
so
this
is
just
a
look
at
our
current
vendor
pool
you'll,
see
the
different
categories
of
certification
that
we
do
and
I
just
put
a
little
criteria
next
to
the
types
just
because
we
get
in
our
acronym
world
I
want
to
make
sure
you
understand
each
of
them
so
M
bees
are
businesses
that
are
51%
minority-owned.
We
have
a
total
of
three
hundred
and
four
of
those.
A
hundred
and
forty
four
are
Boston
based
businesses.
E
Women-Owned
we
have
214
of
those
50
are
Boston
based
small
and
local
business
enterprises,
which
that
certification
is
about
both
the
size
of
the
business
in
terms
of
their
gross
receipts,
as
well
as
their
being
located
in
Boston.
So
we
have
213
small
and
local
business
enterprises.
A
hundred
and
99
are
based
in
Boston,
and
then
we
have
veteran
owned
businesses,
which
both
include
veteran
owned.
Small
businesses,
as
well
as
disabled,
veteran-owned,
small
businesses,
and
those
are
we
have
19.
3
of
them
are
based
in
Boston.
E
If
you're
pulling
out
your
calculators,
I
guarantee
these
numbers
won't
add
up,
because
a
lot
of
these
categories
are
overlapping.
So
if
you
see
you
know
within
minority-owned,
there
are
obviously
women
owned
in
male
owned
businesses,
so
within
small
and
local.
Some
of
those
are
minority-owned,
etc,
etc.
So
this
is
just
a
glimpse
of
what
our
current
vendor
pool
is
in
our
certification
database.
That's
managed
by
Stacy.
So
in
that
we
see
that
there's
a
lot
of
room
to
grow,
there's
a
lot
of
room
to
diversify.
E
So
one
of
the
steps
we've
taken
towards
that
is
partnership
with
the
Commonwealth,
their
supplier
diversity
office.
They
do
of
the
certification
for
the
state
and
we
signed
an
MoU
with
them
in
December
of
2018
that
formally
established
a
cross
certification
agreement
and
process
between
the
two
agencies.
So
now,
if
you
are
certified
with
one
of
the
either
the
state
or
the
city,
the
other,
the
other
party
will
recognize
that
certification
and
fast
track
your
your
certification
process
through
them.
E
That's
where
we
are
right
now,
where
we're
looking
at
also
potentially
aligning
our
data
system
so
that
it's
even
easier
for
if,
if
someone
in
the
state
is
looking
for
a
minority-owned
business,
that
it
would
automatically
pull
up
our
businesses
as
well,
so
we're
we're
in
talks
of
that's
and
very
preliminary
stages,
but
we're
looking
at
how
we
can
make
the
process
more
business-friendly,
more
streamlined
certification
isn't
the
end.
The
contract
is
the
end.
So
we
want
this
to
be
as
smooth
as
possible,
where
this
will
help
us
boost
our
vendor
pool
and
it'll.
E
We
also
launched
this
year
the
Economic
Development
Center,
which
is
the
office
of
economic
developments,
community
engagement
efforts
and
our
unit.
The
equity
and
inclusion
unit
launched
the
pathways
to
city
contracting
series
and
that
consisted
of
an
opportunity
Fair
where
business
owners
and
residents
could
come
and
meet
directly
with
city
departments
and
learn
about
what
opportunities
they
have
coming
up,
but
also
a
series
of
technical
assistance
workshops.
E
You
can
see
the
types
of
information
the
number
of
attendees
so
far,
we've
had
452
participants
come
through
the
Economic
Development
Center
for
for
the
specific
pathways
to
city
contracting
series
and
all
the
workshops
are
free
of
charge
and
available
to
all
to
the
public.
Just
to
take
a
look
at
who's
been
participating
in
the
workshops.
We
have
a
racial
breakdown
on
the
left
and
gender
breakdown
on
the
right
majority,
African,
American,
Hispanic,
white,
Asian
and
other
majority
mail,
but
male
and
female
participation.
And
then
those
are
the
neighborhoods.
E
When
we,
when
we
track
participant
data,
those
are
the
neighborhoods
that
participants
reside
in,
so
we
had
it.
We
held
the
first
opportunity
fair
in
the
bowling
building
in
Dudley,
and
it
was
good
to
see
that
people
were
able
to
get
there
from
all
parts
of
the
city.
These
are
just
a
couple
quotes
from
the
surveys
that
people
were
able
to
make
meaningful
connections
and
that
it
was
priceless
information.
E
E
E
So
first
we
look
at
the
contract
size
itself
and
see
if
there's
a
way
to
make
it
so
that
in
the
recycling
cart
example,
they
broke
it
up
into
two
contracts
to
cover
the
east
and
west
parts
of
the
city
or
I
forget
if
it
was
north
and
south,
and
so
that's
a
contract
that
would
have
been
larger
and
that
actually
was
a
contract
that
used
to
be
bundled
into
the
sanitation
contract,
which
is
a
multi-million
dollar
contract.
But
the
specific
replacement
of
the
recycling
carts
was
something
that
they're
like
hey.
E
This
is
something
that
doesn't
have
to
be
one
deled
into
this.
Let's
separate
that
out,
you
need
a
pickup
truck,
you
need
this
amount
of
space,
you
need
dry
storage,
and
so
we
came
up
with
the
criteria.
We
discussed
ways
that
it
would
be
more
inclusive
of
the
smaller
business
owner,
that's
just
getting
started
and
and
that
just
went
out
to
bid
April
18th,
but
we
were
able
to
work
prior
to
that
on
the
RFP
language
on
outreach.
E
We
have
our
each
manager
over
there
Joshua
McFadden.
He
was
able
to
reach
out
to
97
landscapers
and
hauling
businesses
for
these
two
RFPs,
and
then
we
also
did
a
neighborhood
info
session.
So,
as
you
know,
most
RFPs
have
an
info
session
attached.
A
lot
of
them
are
in
the
department
where
they're
being
offered,
so
this
one
had
an
info
session
in
the
Department
of
Public
Works,
but
we
were
able
to
do
use
the
Boston,
Water
and
Sewer
building
and
do
a
neighborhood
info
session
5
to
7
p.m.
so
a
bit
more.
E
You
know
not
during
the
work
day,
but
at
a
time
that
was
more
convenient
for
people.
Despite
all
these
efforts,
we
we
did
learn.
We
need
to
further
diversify
our
vendor
pool.
We
didn't
have
a
lot
of
within
our
existing
database.
We
were
limited
in
terms
of
who
we
thought
who
had
the
criteria
required
for
these
contracts
and
in
addition,
we
saw
given
the
the
bids
that
were
submitted,
the
proposals
that
were
submitted
that
there's
still
a
strong
need
for
capacity
building.
E
You
know
either
people
getting
them
in
late
or
in
the
wrong
format,
or
you
know
small
things,
but
so
now
we've-
and
this
is
a
lot
thanks
to
Joshua's
leadership-
we're
designing
a
series
specifically
on
the
bid
process
and
from
A
to
Z
how
to
fill
it
out.
What
format
page
numbers
you
get
is
the
type
of
thing
if
you're,
one
minute
late,
you're
out
or
if
you,
if
you
miss
one
form
you're
out,
so
we
are
designing
a
new
series
to
meet
that.
Another
new
initiative
is.
E
All
right,
so
the
next
initiative
is
doing
sector
specific
business
sourcing,
so
we're
doing
a
partnership
with
Commonwealth
kitchen
to
certify
their
their
businesses,
their
food
based
businesses
that
use
their
space,
so
that'll
be
the
first
time
that
we're
really
doing
a
sector
specific
and
there's
a
ton
of
opportunities
for
restaurants
and
catering
companies
to
do
business
with
the
city.
We
have
anything
from.
You
know,
trainings
to
galas
to
all
kinds
of
events
where,
where
we
need
food,
so
that's
a
that's
a
new
type
of
initiative.
E
E
So
we're
having
this
we're
having
a
certification
event
at
Commonwealth
kitchen,
we're
sending
it
up
at
the
time
that
works
best
for
the
businesses
there.
It's
going
to
be
June
4th
5:00
to
7:00
p.m.
we're
still
confirming
details,
but
that's
the
date
we
have
held
and
we're
also
going
to
support
the
businesses
there
on
becoming
a
city
vendor.
That's
another,
really
small
hurdle
that
that
we
feel
we've
been
noticing
through
our
work,
as
you
can't
do
business
with
the
city.
E
E
Hopefully
you
have
them
in
front
of
you,
but
this
covers
the
first
quarter
of
FY
19
and
you
can
see
the
comparison
of
the
last
time
we
came
before
the
council
back
in
no
event.
Well,
the
last
report
we
submit
to
the
council
back
in
November,
so
you
can
see,
as
chief
Pharaohs
mentioned,
that
numbers
of
contracts
are
going
up
for
EM
bees,
W
bees,
small
local
businesses.
The
trend
is
going
in
the
right
direction.
It's
still
woefully
under
what
it
should
be,
but
this
is
just
a
glimpse
of
where
we
are
right
now.
D
D
The
number
of
contractors
I
have,
we
have
to
admit,
we
think
that's
where
the
work
has
to
be
right.
The
willingness
to
contract
is,
is
the
the
number
of
contractors
not
we've
done
historic
work
to
look
at
where
the
numbers
of
how
many
certified
mwbes
the
city
had
in
its
data
database
before
it
dismantled
the
MWBE
program
in
the
early
2000s,
and
there
were
just
a
lot
more
people
available
for
city
contracts
with
that
or
were
women-owned
or
minority
owned
businesses
than
they
are
today.
D
Clearly,
as
the
city
shifted
its
goals
or
eliminated
its
goals,
the
and
a
demand
wasn't
there,
we
eliminated
businesses
in
Boston,
and
so
over
the
the
last
couple
of
decades
we
have
decimated
a
number
of
women-owned
in
minority
owned
businesses
that
would
typically
apply
for
these
bids.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
which
is
why
you
hear
about
these
new
efforts
to
go
out
and
certify
and
then
new
efforts
to
try
to
create
more
capacity
in
that
space
that
can
do
business
with
the
city.
E
This
is
just
a
little
more
detailed
information
about
the
disparity
study
chief
barrows
mentioned
we've
completed
phase
one
in
December
2018
and
the
the
goal
of
phase
one
was
to
really
assess
the
the
quality
of
the
city's
data
and
the
viability
of
doing
a
disparity
study,
just
making
sure
that
we
had
the
necessary
data
available
to
to
analyze,
and
it
took
a
preliminary
look
at
the
MWBE
discretionary
spend
at
a--.
So,
in
that
initial
assessment,
they
you
know
our
consultants
feel
confident
that
they
have
the
information
they
need
to
move
forward.
E
Phase
two
consists
of
actually
looking
at
the
market
and
and
generating
an
analysis
of
the
availability
of
M&W
bees
that
provide
services.
The
city
is
looking
to
procure.
That's
your
denominator
right.
We
know
that
we
know
what
we're
spending
now
who's
available
out
there
to
actually
perform
the
work
that
the
city
is
doing.
That's
what
that's
about
and
it'll
result
in
recommendations
for
new
equity
based
policies
and
programs
to
help
address
any
disparity.
Findings.
E
The
last
is
just
I
couldn't
get
a
picture
of
everyone
on
our
team,
but
our
team
is
changing
and
growing.
We
have
an
outreach
manager,
engagement,
outreach
manager,
Joshua,
McFadden
compliance,
monitor
Jessica,
who
was
not
in
this
picture,
because
she's
camera
shy,
Jessica
de
Silva
and
rich
Sabourin.
The
program
monitor
he's
the
one
that
works
with
city
departments
to
find
out
about
contracts.
They
have
coming
up
and
monitor
they're
spending.
We
also
been
approved
for
an
additional
position
to
support
our
certification
work
in
the
FY
2010.
D
A
E
G
So
after
that,
as
we
have
been
moving
forward,
trying
to
engage
the
businesses
small
businesses
and
help
them,
we
find
that
there
are
fewer
there's.
Newer
ones
are
starting
out
now
and
they're.
Looking
for
a
lot
of
technical
assistance,
which
you
know
we
offer
them,
we're
able
to
provide
for
them,
so
capacity
building
is
main
thing
that
we're
doing
right
now.
G
A
You
well
thank
you
chief.
Thank
you.
Silly,
there
Thank
You
Stacey
a
couple,
quick
questions
from
the
chair
and
then
turn
it
over
to
my
colleagues.
I
know:
we've
been
joined
by
my
colleague,
city
counsel,
Matt
O'malley
as
well.
I
guess,
the
question
I
wanna
know
is:
would
procurement
contracts?
Do
we
typically
spend
the
most
money
on
and
what
types
of
businesses
are
those
contracts
going
to
yeah.
E
E
So
in
in
or
in
that
proposal
we
have
the
the
departments
that
I
listed
for
the
most
part
VPS
purchasing
do
it.
The
PDA
are
all
have
all
gone
into
that
application
with
us.
So
if
we
are
selected
for
this
program,
then
we'll
be
working
with
five
other
city
departments
to
create
an
inclusive
procurement
Council
and
create
new
best
practices
and
a
consolidated
buying
plan,
which
the
city
of
Boston
has
never
had
very.
A
Good
and
this
may
be,
but
this
may
be
a
function
of
the
short
of
the
first
quarter
versus
the
snap
sure
of
the
whole
year,
but
I've
noticed
that,
while
the
percentage
of
minority-owned
businesses,
women-owned
businesses
and
small
local
businesses
have
grown
they've
grown
minimally
in
2019,
the
actual
number
of
minority-owned
business
are
less
than
fiscal
year
18.
So
can
you
explain
to
me
what
why
that's
the
way?
That's
the
case.
The.
D
Actual
contracts-
correct,
yes,
so
yeah
that
is
a
function
of
that
is
a
function
of
the
quarter
versus
the
year.
In
fact,
the
quarter
we
have
more
than
half.
We
have
more
than
half
of
contracts
already
than
we
had
in
2019,
so
it's
I
mean
2018,
so
it
sets
up
for
a
favorable
year,
but
you're
right.
The
19,
verse
28
is
a
function
of
the
time
frame.
We're
seeing
we're
looking
at
in
the
parent.
A
And
then
you
had
mentioned
treaty
reference
chapter
30b
with
respect
to
any
contract
over
10,000
sort
of
low
bid,
no
exceptions
but
you're,
suggesting
that
we
should
have
flexibility
in
in
increasing
the
embassy
for
contracts
under
25,000
or
under
50,000
100,000.
Or
should
we
have
discretion
throughout
all
of
30,
B
I
believe.
D
That
low
bid
should
be
one
of
the
factors,
but
not
the
only
factor
that
we
take
in
consideration.
I,
believe
past
practice.
Past
experience
with
a
contractor
on
city
contractors.
City
contracts
should
be
included
as
that.
The
ability
for
the
contractor
to
have
responded
to
the
city's
policies
and
regulations
should
because
included
in
that
which
would
then
allow
us
to
look
at
the
city.
The
contractors
performance
on
city
goals
such
as
subcontracting
diversity
that
allow
us
to
look
at
B,
rjp
policy
and
practices
and
then
take
that
into
consideration,
along
with
the
low
bid.
A
D
A
Know
that
Stacey
admission
sort
of
helping
with
sort
of
technical
assistance
and
things
of
that
nature.
How
much
of
this
is
financing?
How
much
of
it
is
bonding?
How
much
of
it
is
insurance
for
companies
to
be
able
to
position
themselves
to
compete,
to
be
able
to
accept
these
types
of
contracts,
with
with
sort
of
the
vendors
that
you've
met
with
vendors
that
you're
encouraging
to
participate
vendors
that
sort
of
needs
some
type
of
assistance?
How
much
of
it
is?
How
much
of
that
is
financing?
A
D
D
You
know
you
what
you
have
for
some
of
the
smaller
women-owned
a
minority-owned
businesses
is,
you
have
excellent
trades
and
skills
right
and
they
can
do
the
job,
but
when
it
comes
to
filling
out
paperwork
when
it
comes
to
the
back
office,
part
of
this-
it's
a
it's
it's
it's.
When
you
have
a
small
shop,
you
can't
really
pay
for
a
full-time,
HR,
personal
compliance
person,
and
so
you
have
to
figure
out
how
you
do
that.
D
The
other
part
of
the
small
shop
ISM
bonding
right,
and
it
continues
to
be
a
challenge
that
we
see
working
capital
and
all
across
the
board
is
a
challenge.
When
you
have
a
contract
from
the
city
that
is
larger
than
your
typical
contract,
you
have
to
step
up
and
be
able
to
do
that.
Providing
working
capital
and
that's
providing
a
small
loan
is
always
critical,
and
so,
depending
on
the
industry,
we
would
find
the
the
different
challenge.
Let
me
just
be
clear:
the
city
has
never
had
any
MB
WBE
goals
besides
construction.
D
After
this
disparity
study
we
will
set
for
the
first
time
in
the
city's
history
goals
in
services
and
products.
We
will
then
begin
to
understand
some
of
the
challenges
and
nuances
in
the
different
industries.
As
we
look
at
services
and
products,
we
could
speak
better
to
construction,
given
our
history
and
given
the
work
that
we've
done
there,
but
we
do
notice
the
nuance
as
we
just
do:
business
development
in
general,
okay,
so.
A
A
little
more
involved
and
say
going
on
shark
tank
with
the
with
the
great
idea
and
getting
Wester,
you
need
to
have
sort
of
working
capital
back
at
the
house
front
of
the
house
technical
pieces
of
this
HR
there's
just
a
sort
of
a
bigger
sense
that
hopefully
people
are
getting
a
grasp
of
how
that
whole
works
in
and
also
having
the
financial
to
the
financing.
To
support
that.
So
there's.
E
Also-
and
it's
something
I
know
the
VP
da
is
looking
at
and
where
we
want
to
make
it
part
of
this
accelerator
or
look
into
it.
If
even
if
we
don't
get
selected
as
how
we
set
the
insurance
rates
for
different
contracts
and
and
seeing
if
they're
being
set
too
high,
or
you
know
that
it
seems
to
have
been
done,
sort
of
some
historical
fashion
and
and
that
may
not
make
sense
for
the
size
of
the
contract,
the
amount
of
insurance
that
you
need
or
bonding.
B
You,
mr.
chairman,
thank
you.
Everyone,
so
I
want
to
just
cut
me
off
when
I
do
I
have
a
couple
rounds
of
a
couple
of
different
buckets
of
questions
so
just
to
clarify
my
understanding
of
some
of
the
the
exact
terminology
in
terms
of
SLB
ii,
small
and
local
is
that
our
best
measurement
of
a
Boston
based
business
and
I
guess
I
was
just
confused.
Why
there's
a
total
number
of
213,
but
then
there's
a
separate
number?
That's
smaller
for
Boston,
based
and
I
would
have
thought.
Slb
would
would
have
meant
everyone.
A
G
B
D
40,000
was
done
in
our
small
business
report.
Counselor
I'm,
gonna
gonna,
give
you
my
best
recollection
I,
don't
have
in
front
of
me
and
I'll
and
I'll
just
afford
the
report
to
you,
but
I
believe
40,000
registered
that
included
and
a
majority
of
them
are
single
one
single
proprietary
businesses,
meaning
I
register
myself.
Business.
B
E
Do
so
historically
the
way
city
of
state
governments
did
it?
You
had
to
be
certified
by
that
entity
to
do
business
in
that
city.
So
if
you're
in
Quincy
you
want
to
do
business
in
Boston,
you
have
to
be
certified
by
Boston.
What's
changing
now
and
I
think
it's
the
way
of
the
future.
Is
we
don't
want
certification
to
be
a
barrier?
And
so
we
not?
We
don't
just
have
the
partnership
with
the
state,
but
the
state
itself
has
a
partnership
with
center
for
women
and
enterprise.
E
The
Greater
New
England
minority
supplier
diversity
counts
so
like
with
other
certifying
entities.
The
state
has
done
similar
mo
mo
use
so
that
it's
like
your
friend,
someone
has
proven
that
your
minority-owned
business,
you,
you
control
this
business,
and
this
is
what
that
business
does
great.
We
trust
their
process.
So
the
way
of
the
future
isn't
like.
You
have
to
have
a
Boston
certification
to
do.
Boston
Business,
it's,
let's
make
sure
the
certification
is
legitimate,
that
it's
up
to
date,
and
that
is
from
a
partner.
E
B
And
then
just
to
clarify
on
the
kind
of
denominator
that
we're
talking
about
total
dollars
expended
on
procurement
contracts
in
FY
18,
around
664
million
a
little
over
six
hundred
sixty
four
million
dollars-
that
is
the
discretionary
spend
from
purchasing
and
procurement,
but
not
from
the
capital
budget.
Is
that
correct.
H
D
That
right
here,
this
includes
all
of
the
contracts
and
just
looking
at
cases
just
States
just
to
make
sure.
But
it's
the
types
of
contracts
are
listed
directly
underneath
it
so
the
architectural
engineering,
contractual
services
for
capital,
construction
and
other
professional
services,
the
I,
believe
the
total
up
top
includes
construction
activity
as
well.
D
That
means
so
so
the
primary
so
primary
contractors
off
contact
contracts
are
awarded
to
the
primary
applicant,
but
they
would
often
sub
their
work.
Often
that's
the
case
in
construction,
where
you
have
a
GC
come
in,
and
they're
gonna
build
a
library,
for
instance,
but
they're
going
to
subcontract
part
of
it
to
a
group,
that's
really
good
with
plumbing
or
a
group.
That's
really
good,
with
electrical
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
what
we,
what
what
we
haven't
done
over
the
years
is
capture
well,
whether
those
subcontractors
are
women
are
minority-owned
businesses.
D
G
G
So
that
is
why
a
lot
of
the
minority
and
women
businesses
that
actually
were
construction
related
or
trade
related
businesses
began
to
go
out
of
business
or
go
to
work
for
someone
else
or
retire,
and
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
caused
our
pool
of
certified
businesses
to
drop
dramatically
and
it
also
caused
the
dollar
amounts
that
we
were
able
to
record
to
drop,
because
because
these
subcontractors
are
paid
by
the
general
contractor
they're
not
captured
in
the
city's
auditing
system.
So
the
information
has
to
come
from
the
general
contractor.
Okay,
so.
D
Right
now,
we
are
not
capturing.
What
I
will
anecdotally
say
to.
You
is
a
lot
of
money
going
to
subs,
because
that's
how
this
work
is
done,
who
are
minority-owned
or
women-owned
and
historically,
that
has
been
where
most
of
the
money
goes.
What
we
will
do
is
when
we
establish
new
goals,
like
we
had
in
the
past
for
this
and
demand
that
we
get
that
information
and
be
able
to
report
that
to
you
well.
B
We're
not
sure
that
we're
missing
that
I
mean
it
sounds
like
it
could
be
one
of
two
things:
either
we're
not
we're
under
counting
because
the
money
is
going
to
MWBE
subs
and
we
just
don't
know,
but
it
I
thought
I
heard
that
the
kind
of
undertone
is
that
a
lot
of
the
contractors.
A
lot
of
the
sort
of
supply
of
mwbes
started
to
dissipate,
because
there
wasn't
that
requirement
to
prove
that
you
were
using
a
sub.
That
was
an
MWBE
until
therefore
they
may
not
be
going
there
anymore.
Yeah.
D
That
is
true,
we
do
have
a
glimpse
of
who
is
who
the
subcontractors
are,
however,
because
of
our
B,
our
JP
work,
and
so
because
of
gr
JP.
We
know,
in
fact,
that
there
are
some,
so
these
are
both
true
one
is
we're
not
counting
some
of
the
contracts
because
of
their
subcontractors?
Two
is
the
number
of
subcontractors
have
dramatically
dissipated
because
we
don't
have.
We
no
longer
have
goals.
D
B
So
but
you're
saying
this
six
so
that
these
are
final
numbers
for
FY
18,
because
the
years
closed
and
done
six
hundred
sixty
four
million
dollars,
including
all
the
capital
contracts
and
everything
else.
So
the
you
know
paper
paper
that
this
was
printed
on
as
well
as
the
you
know,
what
work
that
was
done
on
the
plaza
in
the
building
etc,
and
out
of
that-
and
it
looks
like
there
were
slight
revisions
compared
to
the
report
that
we
first
got
in
20
November
that
actually
adjusted
some
of
these
numbers
down.
B
You
know,
Kim
had
been
pointing
out
that
she
thought
it
was
a
70%
or
7
percent
is
actually
point.
Seventy
point,
seven
two
percent,
but
that
number
is
actually
down
to
0.55
percent
in
terms
of
the
contracts
going
to
businesses
owned
by
people
of
color
by
number
and
then
point
six
four
point:
six:
five
percent
of
the
dollar
value.
But
these
are
the
final
numbers.
D
B
I
have
I
haven't
here
side
by
side,
if
I
can
show
you
afterwards,
if
you're
interested,
and
is
this
the
format
that
you
anticipate,
the
quarterly
reports
will
start
coming
in
is
so
far,
and
this
is
the
second
report
that
we've
gotten
or
the
second
just
kind
of
update
after
the
November
2018
report
and
the
ordinance
did
call
for
quarterly
reports.
So
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
if
this
is
the
kind
of
chart
that
you'll
be
working
off
of
or
is
there
another
kind
of
report
format
that
this.
D
Is
our
proposed
chart,
but
because
really
we
want
to
be
helpful
in
the
disguise
and
make
sure
that
you
get
what
you
need.
We
would
love
to
hear
feedback
of,
what's
helpful
and
not
helpful
and
make
sure
that
it's
consistent
enough
so
that
you
can
look
at
one
report
versus
another
report
with
no
before
yeah.
B
A
B
I
have
more
questions
can,
if
I
all
just
squeeze
in
one
last
one
for
this
section,
if
that's
okay,
mr.
chair
and
co-sponsor,
in
terms
of
the
disparity
study,
so
the
disparity
study
went
out
in
October
of
2017
in
terms
of
the
RFP
right
and
then
the
you're
saying
that
since
October
2017,
the
progress
is
that
we
will
see
it
done
by
2020.
D
So
the
disparity
study
RFP
went
out
in
October
2017,
we
made
selections
early
2018
and
we
signed
a
contract,
I
believe
March
2018.
The
first
phase
of
the
disparity
study
was
to
infact
ensure
that
we
had
the
data
to
run
a
disparity
study.
As
you
remember,
in
2003
the
disparity
study
came
back
inconclusive.
The
popular
talking
point
was
that
Boston
didn't
have
disparities.
In
fact,
that
is
not
technically
correct.
It
did
dismantle
our
MWBE
programs,
however,
because
we
didn't
have
the
data
to
back
up
our
goals.
D
That's
why
I
wasn't
conclusive
and
because
it
wasn't
conclusive
and
we
didn't
have
the
data
we
couldn't.
We
couldn't,
we
lost,
we
lost
it
in
court
right,
which
is
which-
and
so
that's
put
us
in
the
in
the
problem
that
we
are
and
today
so
we
did
not
want
to
launch
another
disparity
study
without
the
data
and
then
be
in
the
same
predicament,
because
every
time
this
cap
case
law
established
that
that
takes
down
a
goal
in
any
city,
it
sets
all
cities
back.
D
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
that
phase
one
was
completed
recently.
We
just
got
a
report
back
on
all
the
data
that
we
do
have
what's
clean
what's
available,
so
that
the
disparity
study
that
we
do
run
can
in
fact
answer
the
questions
that
we're
asking
and
that
you,
northern
mayor,
need
to
worry
about
having
an
inconclusive
disparity
study.
What.
D
The
research
that
they
did
essentially
said
you
have
data
here,
that's
really
good!
You
have
data
here,
that's
really
good,
so
we
have
really
good
data.
Now,
we've
been
working
on
that,
so
it's
not
just
happen
to
have
really
good
data.
We
have
been
showing
that
up
ever
since
we
came
into
the
administration-
and
we
learned
about
wide
of
2003
disparity
study
came
back
inconclusive,
we
have.
The
administration
has
been
working
really
hard
on
making
sure
we
collecting
really
good
data.
D
D
B
A
E
I,
don't
have
any
data
on
that
now.
We
do
have
then
the
ability
to
followup
with
them,
because
we
did
business
and
take
with
all
of
them
the
other
pieces
that
we
did
a
partnership
with
Suffolk
construction.
They
have
the
trade
partnership
series
which
really
prepares
businesses
to
do
joint
ventures
with
Suffolk,
and
it's
it's
pretty
successful.
So
out
of
our
program,
we
pre-qualified
three
of
the
businesses
that
that
did
sort
of
the
construction
track
of
the
pathways
to
city
contracting.
So
three
of
those
businesses
are
now
in
in
the
midst
of
that
partnership
series.
E
A
D
Flowers,
we
do
not
have
for
the
recent
one,
because
it's
early,
but
we
do
have
for
last
summer,
okay,
so
last
time
we
ran
the
pilot,
we
will
get
you
that
number.
At
the
top
of
my
head,
we
celebrated
HP
HP
plumbing,
which
is
a
minority-owned
local
plumbing
company
that
did
receive
a
$10,000
contract
from
the
city,
but
I
want
to.
Let
me
get
back
to
you,
because
we
did
track
it
from
last
summer
last
summer.
Success
is
why
we've
scaled
this
program
up
and
we're
doing
more
of
it.
Great
thank.
C
Thank
you
so
much
just
following
up
on
the
fair,
so
again,
I
attended
the
event
at
bowling.
It
was
wonderful,
good
job
Celina.
Thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work
as
as
well
as
chief
barrows
and
the
rest
of
the
team.
Just
following
up
on
those
folks
at
450
those
folks
who
have
attended
some
sort
of
event.
What
else
is
happening
in
terms
of
follow
up
with
them?
So
we.
E
E
I
would
love
to
have
that
data.
We
had
our
tablets
crash,
and
so
we
people
were
doing
just
manual
sign-in,
and
so
we
weren't
able
to
capture
that
data.
But
we
do
we
try
to
capture
as
much,
but
we
had.
Unfortunately,
that
was
a
big
hit,
because
such
a
large
number
of
people
there
but
I
don't
from
the
first
event,
we
don't
from
the
others.
E
C
G
Certification,
basically,
businesses
don't
have
to
become
certified
to
get
a
contract
with
the
city
of
Boston,
but
they
do
want
to
be
recognized
as
a
minority
owned
or
women-owned
to
a
small
and
local
business.
That's
when
they
come
to
us
and
oftentimes
they're,
newly
created
and
they're,
just
starting
out.
So,
besides
helping
maneuver
through
the
application
itself,
because
there
are
five
criteria
and
they
have
to
meet
all
five
criteria,
then
we
will
well
what
I
do
is
I
introduced
them
to
whether
it's
a
different
department
that
was
utilize
the
services
they
provide.
G
We
try
to
put
them
in
contact
with
the
departments
or
if
they
need
assistance,
like
maybe
help
with
their
books
or
marketing,
or
things
like
that,
we
will
refer
them
to
the
main
street's
the
unit
within
our
office
as
well,
because
the
neighborhood
business
managers
are
very
helpful,
and
so
it
depends
on
what
the
business
needs
from
us
at
the
time
and
the
type
of
service
that
they
put.
It's
good.
D
Just
to
clarify
that's
really
important,
just
to
make
just
to
say
publicly
and
then
for
you
up
for
everybody
to
repeat.
Is
there
are
two
processes?
One
is
you
have
to
become
a
vendor
with
the
city
in
order
to
do
then
city
with
any
kind
of
city
business?
It's
really
important
that
people
do
that
and
I
believe
it's
done
to
the
procurement
office.
Our
small
business
managers
will
help
you
through
that
process,
but
that
is
an
important
process.
D
Secondarily,
it
is
important
I
think,
but
it's
not
necessary
that
you
get
certified
as
an
MWBE,
so
there
are
actually
could
be
mwbes
that
are
doing
work
with
the
city
that
we
don't
know,
but
we'd
love
to
help
we'd
love
to
track.
We
would
love
to
give
them
more
assistance,
so
we
are
asking
for
people
to
certify
with
our
office
as
MW.
G
G
I'm
sorry
I
wasn't
then
so
certification
as
well
once
they
become
certified,
their
company
name
is
listed
in
our
directory,
which
is
available
on
the
city
of
Boston
website,
and
so
all
city
departments
have
access
to
it.
Other
people
who
are
private
agencies
and
entities
also
have
access
to
it
and
they
also
call
our
office
looking
for
lists.
So,
besides
being
a
certified
vendor
with
the
city
of
Boston,
we
notify
them
about
outreach
events
that
are
happening
with
other
agencies.
G
C
C
D
Our
data
sets
looked
at
everything
and
what
we
wanted
was
to
be
assured
that
our
data
was
good
enough
for
the
quality
of
data
that
you
would
need
to
present
to
establish
the
legal
framework
of
a
disparity
study
because
the
center-
that's
what
it
is,
a
legal
document
and
what
tripped
us
up
in
2003
was
not
having
good
data
to
be
able
to
establish
the
disparity
or
not
right
right,
so
it
was
inconclusive.
They
they
use
the
first
first
year
for
that
first
phase.
D
D
C
Good
okay,
so
that's
helpful
on
the
subcontractors
piece,
at
least
with
the
construction
industry.
We've
got
that
information
so
through
be
rjp
where
we're
tracking
the
subs
and
whether
or
not
they're
meeting
their
goals
in
terms
of
local
business
in
terms
of
minority
in
terms
of
women.
Why
not
cross-reference,
at
least
for
the
construction
fees.
E
C
E
So
but
I
do
think
that
that
we
are
interested
in
in
looking
at
whether
if
there's
a
minority
owned
or
women-owned
sub,
whether
that
can
count
favor
favorably
towards
you
know,
someone
getting
awarded
a
contract.
I
know
it's
part
of
the
the
way
that
the
Dudley
RFP
languages
so
I
think
I.
Think
that's
that's
a
next
step
for
for
br
JP
and
in
construction
in
general.
C
D
A
lot
until
we
have
the
disparity
study
done
and
the
legal
half
to
be
able
to
back
the
demand
for
that
right
so
because
we
didn't
have
that
in
2000.
Once
again,
our
program
got
struck.
The
city's
program
got
struck
down.
None
of
us
was
here.
Maybe
some
of
us
were
here,
but
we
weren't
here
well,
because
we
didn't
have
the
legal
framework
for
collecting
or
and
mandating
those
goals.
We
lost
those
programs
and
so
right
now.
D
What
we
want
to
do
is
wait
for
the
disparities
study
to
return
and
then
for
us
to
establish
a
program
that
both
collects.
The
right
set
of
data
and
demands
mandate.
City
will
demand
and
mandate
the
right
set
of
data
and
then
on
the
other,
sand,
create
the
right
demand
by
setting
up
goals
that
people
would
have
to
meet
I.
C
Want
to
come
back
to
the
FY
18
the
report
that
we
received
on
November
1st
of
last
year.
The
numbers
are
different
from
your
PowerPoint
presentation
today
and
I'm,
not
sure
why
that
is
I
mean.
Perhaps
we
can
come
back
as
a
follow
up,
but
when
I
look
at
your
presentation
that
you
presented
today,
if
we're
looking
at
the
number
of
MBE
contracts,
its
point
55%,
whereas
the
November
1st
2018
report,
it
was
0.72%.
C
D
C
C
D
C
D
C
Worries
you
mentioned
earlier,
the
top
five
departments
in
terms
of
spending
being
Public,
Works,
Neighborhood,
Development,
Boston,
Public,
Schools
police,
and
do
it?
What
are
the
top
actual
contracts
like?
Is
it
paper,
for
example,
that
we
spend
the
most
on
like
what
are
we
spending
the
most
money
on,
not
necessarily
the
five
departments,
but
the
actual
in
general?.
D
C
E
We
we
do
have
some
of
that
initial
analysis
from
the
disparity
study.
The
top
three
industries
are.
The
first
is
construction,
second,
is
professional
services
and
third
is
goods
and
standard
services
so
about
well.
Actually
this
is
yeah
I
guess
they
didn't
list
it
in
order,
because
it's
actually
50%
our
goods
and
services,
then
construction,
then
professional
services
and
then
within.
E
We
have
a
slightly
more
granular
breakdown
within
those
industries,
but
professional
services,
the
the
major
ones,
are
IT
services,
engineering
and
educational
services
and
then
goods
and
services,
which
I
think
is
what
most
people
think
of
when
they
think
of
em
and
WBE
spending
the
city
its
transit.
So
a
lot
of
that
is
BPS,
a
lot
of
transportation
costs,
waste
and
recycling
and
computers
and
and
peripherals.
Those
are
like
the
top
three,
but
it's
it's
much
more
complex
than
that,
but
those
are
the
top
three
just.
C
C
C
What
are
we
looking
to
do
in
terms
of
updating
language
so
that
we
really
are
attracting
the
types
of
vendors
that
would
meet
our
shared
goals,
around
inclusion
and
diversity?
So
we've
done
I
think
important
work
in
Roxbury
with
the
plan
Dudley
RFP
and
getting
important
language
in
there
around
diversity
and
inclusion,
as
well
as
anti
too
placement
language
for
parcels
that
are
going
out.
What
is
the
city
doing?
Is
this
also
something
that
we're
waiting
to
get
the
disparity
study
on?
C
D
I
agree
with
you:
the
work
that
was
done
in
terms
of
plan
Dudley
was
really
good.
Work
I
want
to
make
clear
that
that
language
has
been
adopted
and
is
going
to
be
used
on
all
city
land
BPD,
a
and
D
and
D
included
anywhere
in
the
city.
When
is
that
that's
done,
it's
done.
Yeah.
The
mayor
has
announced
that
we
are
gonna
use
that
language.
Yes,.
D
A
You
very
much
and
I
just
want
to
touch
base
on
those
transit
and
the
waste
vehicles.
That's
that's!
That's
a
big
number
when
you're
thinking
about
a
fleet
of
vehicles,
fuel
maintenance,
repair
drivers,
probably
union
contracts
with
teamster
stuff,
like
that,
it's
it
makes
it
sort
of
a
much
bigger
and
more
complex
situation
just
trying
to
dive
into
the
business.
But
that's
an
interesting
point.
David's
50%
of
it
is
for
those
types
of
services.
So
there's
my
colleague
council
with
any
more
questions
of
this
panel,
very
good.
B
A
B
E
D
B
It
would
be
great
just
even
just
to
get
a
column
added
on
this
of
you
know
what
the
planned
end
date
is
in
just
in
terms
of
you
know
these
contracts
that
we
have
and
then
just
in
general,
a
sense
of
what
is
the
kind
of
what
is
a
five-year
cycle.
Look
like
you
know
is
or
what's
what's
the
vast
the
average
contract
length
you
happen
to
know?
Is
it
a
lot
of
one-year
contracts,
there's
a
lot
of
three-year
contracts,
sometime.
G
They're
three-year
contracts,
but
one
of
the
things
in
the
reports
that
I
receive
besides
contracts,
what
it
really
identifies
our
vouchers,
so
it
could
be
one
annual
contract
and
every
time
work
is
done
on
that
contract.
The
payment
is
made,
so
you
could
have
one
contract
that
has
ten
payments
on
it
and,
and
that
would
be
reflected
in
the
whole
report.
So
it
may
not
tell
you
when
the
contract
begins
of
when
the
contract
ends.
G
B
That
would
be
helpful,
I
mean
all
I
would
just
be
trying
to
build
out,
maybe
something
you
that
you
already
have,
which
is
what
I
think
the
community
needs
is
a
mapping
of
when
these
different
types
of
contracts
come
up.
So
if
we're
doing
all
these
great
event,
outreach
events
and
training
businesses
on
you
know,
here's
all
the
opportunities
that
you
could
have
but
know
that
the
next
time
comes
around
won't
be
for
another
two
years
or
four
years
or
however
long
it
is
I.
Think
that's!
B
That's
kind
of
the
missing
piece
is
knowing
the
timeline
timing
of
your
just
so
someone
doesn't
have
to
sit
at
their
computer
every
day,
kind
of
logging
on
to
see
what
the
new
ones
that
came
up
that
day
are,
if
we
know
he's
looking
ahead.
Here's
when
this
big
trash,
hauling
contract
goes
out
or
here's
when
the
next
of
recycling
delivery,
carts
things
happens.
That
I
think
this
is
how
we
actually
connect
the
opportunity
to
the
capacity
that
you
all
are
doing
great
job
of
building
up
yeah
and.
E
That's
part
of
the
the
buying
plan
and
the
inclusive
procurement
council
and
our
rich
suborn
who's.
Our
program
monitor
it
has
sent
out
a
survey
to
all
departments
and
we're
trying
to
get
back
responses
on.
Who
is
your
who
does
purchasing
in
your
department?
What
what's
your
cycle
like?
There's
some
some
departments
do
like
one
big
gala
every
year,
there's
others
that
have
more
regular
spending
and
you
know
so
we're
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
that
from
the
survey,
but
I
think
also
doing
this
council.
E
That's
one
of
the
end
goals
is
to
have
a
buying
plan
and
that
most
of
those
we're
learning
from
other
municipalities
that
have
those
in
place
most
of
those
are
multi-year.
So
for
the
next
four
years.
What
are
the
things
we
know?
We're
gonna
need
snow
plows.
We
know
we're
gonna
need
salt.
We
know
we're
going
to
need
landscaping.
You
know
like
those
are
those
recurring
expenses,
and
so
that
is
one
of
our
in.
E
B
G
G
So
then
we're
gonna
need
feedback
from
them
as
to
okay.
So
who
did
you
actually
send
out
RFPs
and
invitations
for
bid
and
how
many
were
MBE,
WBE,
small
and
local?
How
many
responded
who
was
awarded
the
contract-
and
you
know
who
wasn't
and
why?
So
that's
something
that
we
were
working
with
the
department's?
That's.
B
Something
we've
heard,
as
that
would
be
helpful
in
the
community
as
well,
is
even
if
even
when
you
are
not
awarded
the
contract,
some
feedback
on.
Why
and
you
know,
then
they
could
incorporate
that
for
next
time
as
well,
but
then
also
just
the
metrics
of
well.
How
many
are
there
that
are,
you
know,
is
it?
B
G
A
A
You
know
who
who's
here
as
well
he's
participating
in
the
second
panel.
So
if
you
can
make
your
way
down,
thank
you
very
much
to
the
administration.
Again
you're
welcome
to
stick
around.
If
you
want
to
know,
we
also
have
public
testimony.
I
see
Joe
Feaster
Joe.
If
you
could
make
your
way
down
here.
Joe
was
a
former
chair
of
our
licensing
board
and
also
a
distinguished
attorney
in
Boston.
A
Welcome
to
Joseph
Thank
You
mr.
chairman,
please
state
your
name
and
affiliation
for
the
rest.
I
know
that
we
also
Darnell
Williams
president.
The
Urban
League
was
invited
to
participate,
as
was
Nia
Evans
director
of
Boston
majima
project.
I,
do
not
see
them
here.
So,
both
of
you,
gentlemen,
we
represent
the
second
panel,
then
we'll
transition
after
that
to
questions
from
the
public.
I
also
see
well
comments
from
the
public.
I
see
that
our
colleague,
City
Council,
Ed
Flynn,
has
also
just
joined
us
as
well.
So
welcome
to
council
Flynn.
J
J
1983
was
a
different
time
than
when
we're
talking
about
now
and
I
will
also
speak
to
the
involvement
I
had
with
the
city
during
that
period
of
time
in
2003.
When,
because
of
the
case
law
that
was
going
on
in
the
country
trying
to
dismantle
one
woman
business
programs,
a
lot
of
programs
were
being
challenged
route
successfully
around
the
country,
and
here
in
Boston
we
had
to
reshape
the
program
and
make
it
a
small
and
local
business
program.
J
I
can
speak
a
little
bit
to
that,
because
I
was
involved
with
Brook
Woodson
and
the
administration
at
that
particular
point
in
time.
But,
as
I
said,
because
of
the
involvement
with
designing
code
drafting
to
prod
the
program
for
the
state,
we
assisted
the
city
in
drafting
its
program,
which
was
implemented
by
the
late
Senator.
Excuse
me,
the
late
councillor
bowling
and
the
members
of
the
council.
At
that
time
and
I
believe
you
were
here
as
well:
council
Ferry
when
that
took
place
in
and
about
2003,
as
they
talked
about
here
in
the
city.
J
What
had
happened
was
because,
again
of
that
case
lore
and
the
challenges
the
city
felt,
it
was
prudent
to
look
at
the
minority
and
women
business
program
working
along
with
Brook
Woodson
as
and
his
team.
In
fact,
Stacey
was
part
of
that
effort,
as
well.
Stacey
Williams,
which
has
testified
a
moment
ago,
was
part
of
that
particular
effort,
and
what
we
attempted
to
do
was
get
a
program.
That
would
be
if
you
will
bullet
proof
from
being
attacked
with
regards
to
what
was
going
on
around
the
country.
J
J
But,
as
has
was
stated
here
as
a
result
of
that,
with
the
sense
of
government
having
to
step
back
out
of
the
process,
what
was
reported
here
both
by
Chief
barrels
and
his
team,
was
the
fact
that
the
number
of
businesses
diminished,
because
when
government
is
not
involved
in
putting
in
place
a
program
which
will
deal
with
you,
can
call
it
whatever
you
like
minority
and
women
business.
You
can
call
it
small
and
local
business.
J
So
let
me
move
to
that's
the
historical
framework
which
brings
us
to
what
the
council
put
in
place
a
number
last
year
and
now
you're
looking
at
what
the
administration
can
do
so
I
think
the
most
hopeful
way
I
can
be
is
being
in
this
space
and
knowing
this
area
of
intimately
to
make
some
suggestions
as
to
and
many
of
them
I
heard
mentioned
already.
But
I'm
gonna
use
my
time.
Well,
lawyers
usually
a
time
well.
So,
even
if
I'm
repeating,
what's
already
been
said,
I'll
take
credit
for
it
anyway.
J
So
I
think
there
are
two
areas
which
have
been
implemented
or
two
programs
implemented
which
which
the
city
can
look
at
and
and
mirror
one.
The
city
has
chief
Barrels
mentioned
about
the
Department
of
Neighborhood
Development
program
that
they
put
in
place
with
regards
to
the
well,
basically,
the
one-third
one-third
one-third
requirement
which
resulted
in
a
favorable
result
of
for
bid
bidders
coming
in
and
meeting
their
diversity
or
inclusion
requirements.
The
other
one
was
a
precursor
to
that,
and
that
was
what
Massport
did
with
regards
to
its
Convention
Center.
J
Here's
all
your
your
response
to
the
RFP
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
what
we
have
put
a
number
fifteen
percent
is
going
to
be
looked
at
to
because
for
this
criteria.
Well,
that
resulted
in
many
a
numerous
persons
being
having
the
opportunity
to
be
invested
that
particular
project
to
have
to
have
business
business
arrangements
on
their
project
in
significant
ways
to
be
partners
on
that
project,
so
that
resulted
in
bringing
it
about
because
of
the
government
intervention.
J
Some
of
the
things
that
were
mentioned
here
earlier
in
our
chess
world
will
say
that
from
a
governmental
standpoint
would
need
to
be
done.
There
is
the
the
assistance
with
the
bidding
process
over
the
years
for
one
I
was
the
the
chair
of
the
enhanced
enterprise
community,
where
we
had
to
had
the
pleasure
of
doing
the
hampton
inn
project
into
fish.
Pier
project
mecca
mall
the
health
center
in
the
south
end
one
of
the
things
part
of
our
process,
and
that
was
run
by
Reggie
Nunnally
at
the
time.
J
What
the
process
was
was
to
provide
business
assistance
working
along
with
score
and
other
organizations
to
be
able
to
to
address
some
of
that
back
office
situation,
which
Chief
barrels
talked
about,
because
a
lot
of
businesses
have
the
skills,
but
they
don't
have
the
ability
in
order
to
hire
that
back
office.
Things
just
allows
them
to
get
to
bidding
like
a
company
like
a
John
fish
company.
A
Suffolk
construction
has
the
back
office
people
who
can
provide
that,
so
they
were
providing
some
of
that
assistance,
so
I
think
assistance
in
the
business
process.
J
Some
of
the
training
that
was
talked
about,
he
is
helpful,
but
we
have
to
find
a
way
to
get
more
intimately
involved
in
what
those
businesses
may
need
and
what
we
can
provide.
I
think
the
other
way
in
which
they're
doing
it
is
encouraging
joint
ventures.
Again
that
builds
capacity.
When
you
have
joint
ventures
you
have
persons
we
some
mention
was
made
of
here
about
bonding.
J
Construction
has
been
able
to
do
that
very
effectively
from
starting
from
where
he
was
as
a
company
to
where
he
is
able,
where
he's
at
at
this
particular
point
in
time
because
of
those
relationships
in
terms
of
the
joint
venturing
and
another
one
is
done
right
in
terms
of
Anthony.
Samuels
has
been
another
one
who
has
worked
in.
It
ended
in
the
cleaning
of
buildings
and
started
here
in
the
city
of
Boston,
witnessed
contracting
and
now
is
a
multimillion-dollar
company
and
is,
as
a
result
of
his
having
done
joint
ventures.
J
J
One
of
the
things
is
dividing
the
contracts
into
smaller
sizes
when
it's
possible
that
was
mentioned
earlier
and
yes,
that
could
be
a
possibility
or
some
contracts
that
lend
themselves
to
the
two
that
the
contract
criteria,
which
I
mentioned,
was
one
which
said
fine.
We
want
to
encourage
that
they
were
joint
ventures.
We
want
to
encourage
and
see
what
there
was
going
to
be
an
equity
investment,
etc.
So,
if
he's
built
into
the
contracts,
I
can
assure
you
folks
will
respond.
J
Favorably
bonding
assistance,
I
talked
about
the
timing
of
payments.
That's
the
other
thing.
We
a
lot
of
businesses
can
if,
if
the
payments
are
six
months
away,
most
folks
don't
have
the
lines
of
credit
to
be
able
to
carry
their
expenses
over
a
period
of
time.
I
can
remember
when
I
was
in
state
government.
We
worked
with
the
controller's
office
to
try
to
get
I'm,
not
sure
if
we
got
down
to
60
days
or
90
days,
but
we
were.
We
were
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
businesses
couldn't
carry
those
contracts.
J
You
know
for
or
their
payrolls
or
their
expenses
six
months
period
of
time,
so
they
would
get
behind.
They
would
get
into
issues,
they
were
getting,
waging
our
issues
so
the
efforts
in
order
to
give
them
the
business
may
have
been
positive,
but
the
impact
on
them
was
negative
because
they
would
submit
their
their
invoices
and
the
period
of
time
in
which
to
get
paid
so
that
needed
to
be
looked
at
and
the
last
one
we
lawyers
are
never
considered
on
the
contract.
J
So
so,
therefore,
the
professionals
are
the
herd
dimension
from
chief
barrels
that
the
program
only
spoke
to
construction,
even
the
ones
such
as
we
had
in
the
state
which
talked
about
in
in
the
construction
industry,
the
architects,
the
engineers,
the
the
attorneys.
No
one
has
found
an
effective
way
to
include
those
professions
into
this
process,
for
the
determination
of
it,
at
least
from
what
I've
seen
it.
J
If
I'm
incorrect
on
that,
find
someone
correct
me,
but
we
have,
but
my
observation
has
been
that
that
has
not
been
the
case
for
professional
services,
so
that
would
be
an
area
as
well
as,
as,
as
chief
beryl
said,
they
were
looking
at
more
than
chest
construction
in
the
city's
program
that
they
may
want
to
look
at
the
professional
services
and
I.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity,
thank
you
for
inviting
me
to
testify
here
this
afternoon
and.
A
K
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
shigani.
I
do
I
am
joining
you
today,
as
the
executive
director
of
the
black
Economic
Council
of
Massachusetts
I
wish
I
had
gone
first,
I
am
I,
am
NOT
a
lawyer,
but
I
am
the
grandson
of
a
Baptist
preacher
and
the
son
of
a
Baptist
minister,
so
I
have
translated
five
minutes
worth
of
information
into
40
and
I
appreciate
your
patience,
but
on
behalf
of
the
Board
of
Directors,
chairman
Flaherty
of
Beck
MA
and
our
individual
and
business
members.
K
I
wish
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
testimony
regarding
docket
number
zero.
Three.
Four,
eight
order
for
a
hearing
regarding
equity
in
the
city
of
Boston
procurement
and
purchasing
I
wish
to
also
thank
councilors,
Michele,
Wu
and
Kim
Janie
for
sponsoring
the
hearing
order,
as
well
as
your
continued
advocacy
in
this
space.
I
want
to
thank
councilor
Flynn
for
joining
us
as
well
as
Cass
for
joining
us
earlier.
K
I
also
want
to
thank
chief
barrows
and
Miss
Barrios,
Milner
and
Miss
Williams
and
mr.
McFadden
for
joining
us
today
on
the
information
that
they
shared
earlier.
The
mission
of
Becca
is
to
advance
the
economic
well-being
of
black
businesses,
organizations
that
serve
the
black
community
and
black
residents
of
Massachusetts,
and
we
seek
to
fulfill
this
mission
by
convening
solutions-oriented
conversations
advocating
for
better
policies
and
practices
that
will
help
in
gross
and
support
black
businesses
and
black
workers
and
connecting
our
business
members
to
opportunities
in
the
public
and
private
sectors,
as
well
as
to
one
another.
K
Beckman
was
founded
in
part
as
a
response
to
the
Federal
Reserve
Bank
of
Boston's
color
of
wealth
in
Boston,
Report
and
other
similar
reports
that
shined
a
light
on
the
ever-increasing
wealth
gap
between
Boston's,
black
and
white
residents.
We
were
also
founded
to
address
too
frivolous,
yet
oft
repeated
tropes
that
have
proven
detrimental
to
the
growth
of
black
businesses,
not
only
in
the
city
but
across
the
country.
Despite
making
up
13%
of
the
American
population,
7%
of
the
Commonwealth
and
23%
of
Boston's
population.
K
To
some,
we
apparently
make
up
zero
percent
of
the
business
owners
because
we're
told
very
often
that
we
cannot
be
found
and
with
several
hundred
individual
members
of
beck-muz,
some
of
who
are
joining
us
at
the
hearing.
Now,
in
person
and
online,
along
with
our
600
plus
certified
black
owned
businesses
in
the
Commonwealth
in
the
city
and
who
just
exists,
we
are
working
to
address
this
lack
of
knowledge
and
would
be
happy
to
share
this
list
with
the
city
to
further
expand
the
pool
of
MBEs
when
businesses
are
found.
K
We
are
working
to
stamp
out
the
second
notion
and
prove
that
black
businesses
are
in
fact
ready
for
large-scale
opportunities
today
and
that
there
are
many
more
in
the
pipeline
to
handle
new
opportunities
tomorrow
and
so
as
an
advocate
for
black
businesses
and
black
workers.
Opportunities
to
invest
in
low
business
in
local
businesses
that
are
owned
and
operated
by
us
and
ultimately
employ
us
is
of
primary
concern
for
Beckman
and
so
I'm
grateful
for
the
chance
to
address
the
Committee
on
the
topic
of
equitable
City
investment
in
these
businesses.
K
K
We
found
in
that
report
that
out
of
at
least
according
to
the
numbers
of
the
November
report
out
of
14,000
contracts,
as
opposed
to
5,000
offered
today,
only
0.72
percent
of
that
spending
went
to
minority
business
enterprises,
which
said
another
way,
means
that
most
of
the
city
contract
and
went
to
99
percent.
Ninety
nine
point:
two:
six
percent
of
non
businesses
of
color,
which
was
an
alarming
figure
for
us
and
many
of
our
members.
The
city
shared
with
us
today.
K
K
So
25%
of
those
who
responded
said
that
they
had
applied
for
a
city,
contract
and
50%
of
those
who
did
apply
said
they
had
a
very
poor
experience
with
the
process.
25%
of
them
said
that
they
would
not
bid
on
a
city
project
again
based
on
their
experience.
25
percent
said
that
they
perceived
the
parameters
for
MBEs
to
shift
causing
them
to
not
win
the
bid,
and
only
25
percent
of
those
who
did
apply
for
a
contract
won
the
actual
bid.
I
think
that
is
reflected
in
the
numbers
as
well.
K
K
So
a
breakdown
of
the
MBE
designation
by
racial
and
ethnic
categories,
a
breakdown
of
the
number
of
MBE
contracts
by
type,
a
breakdown
of
the
number
of
MBE
contracts
by
City
Department,
a
breakdown
of
the
number
of
MBEs
by
racial
ethnic
categories
that
applied
for
contracts
and
were
denied
said
contracts,
something
that
was
offered
earlier,
as
well
as
in
the
report
that
is
made
public
a
list
of
the
top
few
reasons
that
MBEs
did
not
receive
contracts
and
actually
based
on
one
suggestion
that
was
made
today
from
councillor
wooowww.
Based
on
her
question.
K
K
McFadden
on
these
efforts,
and
so
our
members
also
gave
some
recommendations
on
the
same
survey
for
how
we
can
increase
MBE
participation
in
the
procurement
process
and
those
some
of
these
recommendations
have
been
said
already,
but
being
the
grandson
of
a
pastor.
I
have
no
problem
repeating,
what's
been
said,
so
goals
have
to
be
put
in
place
for
MWBE
participation.
It
is
our
belief
that
this
can
be
done
prior
to
the
disparity
study
and
can
be
shifted
after
it's
complete
completion.
K
We
would
recommend
at
least
making
1%
a
goal,
since
we
have
not
yet
hit
that
another
recommendation
was
providing
individual
quality
feedback
with
applicants
as
to
why
a
bid
was
not
granted
in
order
to
help
them
prepare
for
the
next
time
they
seek
to
do
to
seek
a
contract
with
the
city.
Larger
contracts
must
be
broken
up.
The
time
frame
for
awareness
and
application
submission
must
be
extended.
The
city
should
partner
with
and
invest
in
existing
technical
assistance
programs,
coupled
with
the
technical
assistance
program.
K
It
has
itself
the
office
of
economic
development
and
it's
sub
departments
should
expand
their
partnerships
with
community
and
business
organizations
to
increase
the
number
of
business
owners
who
are
made
aware
of
all
of
the
resources
and
opportunities
that
were
shared
with
us
today.
The
city
should
set
real
spend
requirements
for
large
now
in
international
bidders
to
subcontract
with
small
local
businesses
of
color.
K
K
If
all
do
their
duty,
we
will
be
able
to
ensure
the
production
of
a
report
in
2020
that
shows
that
we
have
made
considerable
progress
toward
true
equity.
Thank
you
once
more
for
hosting
this
hearing
on
this
important
topic
and
listening
to
our
concerns
and
I'm,
looking
forward
to
the
thoughtful
testimony
of
the
public
and
our
members
today.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you
thank
you
again
and
I
think
for
the
work
that
you
do
as
well
as
what
baek-moo
does
Joey
raised
a
good
point
in
terms
of
the
invoices
being
paid,
we
have
a
track
in
terms
of
well.
Maybe
there's
probably
been
a
question
for
a
treat
by
roses
team,
but
do
we
have
an
idea
as
to
sort
of
the
amount
of
time
invoices
or
I
wrote
the
fo
for
the
city.
J
J
Have
that
councillor
excuse
mr.
chairman,
Hyde
I,
don't
have
any
direct
involvement
in
that
the
ties
where
I
was
paid.
I
got
my
money
timely.
So
that
was
on
a
personal
note,
but
I
think
I
think
just
historically
in
generally
and
I'm
sure,
chief
barrels
and
his
team
can
add
and
respond
to
that.
I
would
say
that
most
instances
people
are
paid
beyond
90
days
and
that
can
be
crippling
to
or
or
you
know,
to
a
business
right
and
and
I
would
say.
A
Answer:
that's
a
great
point.
I
think
this
committee
should
obviously
to
take
it
kind
of
a
closer
look
at
that.
That's
a
critical
piece
in
terms
of
having
a
company
that
has
a
contract
that
submitted
an
invoice
and
then
they
are
having
to
carry
payroll
and
everything
that
goes
associated
with
it
for
more
than
90
days.
Is
it's
a
tall
ask
it?
It
would
deter
people
quite
frankly
from
from
doing
business
with
us
if
they
had
to
wait
yeah
so.
J
Well,
I
know
that
was
the
circumstance
of
mr.
chairman
to
members
that
we
saw
on
the
state
side
and
now
we're
back
back
during
that
time.
So
unless
one
has
focused
on
that
particular
issue,
I
would
suspect
that
it
probably
still
exists
in
the
procurement
process
that
exists
here
in
the
city.
But
again
that
would
be
a
question
to
others
other
than
ID.
That
can
answer
that.
Okay,.
A
J
Well
well
again,
I
think
again
and
I
have
to
commend
the
city
on
that
and
there's
two
things:
I
wanted
her
to
speak
to,
because
I
want
to
echo
some
of
what
sue
Gunn
said
on
this.
My
any
effort
in
terms
of
moving
the
doll
forward
is
something
that
I
I
will
will
support
in
terms
of
the
what
the
council
put
forward
and
the
administration
is
putting
into
play.
J
J
So
I
think
what
comes
out
of
that
when
you
do
there
is
a
holistic
approach,
or
there
is
an
effort
by
folks
to
address
what
they,
what
they
feel
will
be
determining
factor
in
a
very
meaningful
way,
so
in
and
of
the
south.
All
the
boats
get
lifted,
mr.
chairman,
so
in
within
that
you
may
not.
But
then,
when
the
city
is
looking
at
its
numbers,
they'll
be
able
to
then
speak
to
the
fact
that
there
are
these
professionals
that
are
involved
in
these
on
the
projects,
particularly
those
that
are
with
the
city.
B
First,
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
I
think
the
unfortunately,
the
the
figure
that
sugar
and
had
sighted
around
0.72%
was
actually
revised
today
and
it's
actually
0.55
percent
when
compared
against
the
actual
contract
numbers.
So
we
have,
as
you
said,
monumental
work
and
look
forward
to
to
pushing
that
forward.
Even
more
I
was
curious
when
you
described
the
feedback
from
membership
in
terms
of
the
process
being
cumbersome
and
expensive.
What
are
the
types
of
expenses
that
arise
in
in
the
bidding
of
in
bidding
for
these
city
contracts?.
K
J
I
can
give
you
you
know
again,
if
you're
talking
about,
say
a
development
project,
and
you
want
to
do
a
piece
you're,
an
architect
lawyer
whatever.
If
you
have
to
do
plans,
you
know
the
cost
of
doing
the
plans,
would
we're
definitely
a
development
project.
I
would
say
most
development
projects,
private
cost
somewhere
around
$250,000
in
order
to
to
submit
in
response
to
the
RFP.
And
if
you
are
a
you
know,
a
small
contractor
and
you
do
you
want
to
invest
$250,000
on
a
hope
and
a
dream.
That's
one.
J
The
other
one
is
I
was
suspected
on
the
contracts
that
you
have
for
services.
You
still
have
to
have
the
time
in
which
to
do
it
and,
as
chief
beryl
said,
most
of
these
companies
are
in
a
position
whereby
they
have
the
persons
who
have
the
skillset,
but
they
don't
have
the
time
in
which
to
be
able
to
and
in
the
back
office,
to
respond
to
a
20-page
application
which
asks
you
to
do
the
financial
pieces
to
get
your
recommendations
to
get
there.
You
know
so
that
so
that's
I
would
suspect.
J
So
gun
is
what
the
members
of
baek-moo
are.
Referring
to
not
having
the
back-office
now,
for
me,
I
say
one
of
the
ways
in
which
to
do
that.
If
the
technical
assistance
is
there
or
we
begin
to
look
at
entities
that
we
can
refer
persons
to,
who
can
do
that
since
they
can't
hire
them
and
wouldn't
want
to
hire
them
full
time
that
we
have
persons
who
will
provide
the
type
of
assistance
in
terms
of
responding
to
RFPs.
J
J
I
believe
and
I
wish
and
maybe
Stacey
might
know,
because
she
was
there
with
us
with
the
enhanced
enterprise
community
and
we
Brooke
Woodsen's
office
in
terms
of
the
diversity
we
we
provide,
that
that
type
of
technical
assistance
to
people
assisting
them
in
bidding
would
I
be
right
about
that
Stacey
that
we
were
doing
that,
but
in
terms
of
we
would
provide
them
with
some
of
the
assistance
in
responding
to
that.
We
had
score
and
others
so
I
think
we
may
have
to
put
that
back
in
place.
Counselor
wolf,
chief.
B
H
B
K
I
mean
I
think
this
is
where
partnerships
play
a
key
role,
so
I
mean
we
have
our
membership
of
X
number
of
business
members.
Urban
League
has
a
number
of
members
under
blue
CP,
etc,
and
so
it's
you
know
for
us.
It's
about
making
our
members
aware.
I
mean
the
the
piece
here
is
that
lack
of
information
and
awareness
I,
think
that
was
referenced
in
the
earlier
presentation,
so
I
think
through
partnerships,
where
you
know
we
are
given
the
information
we
share
with
our
members.
B
Then
the
last
batch
of
questions
I
had
for
everyone,
and
hopefully
including
the
chief
as
well-
it's
just
a
little
pushing
a
little
further
on
the
30b
conversation
from
earlier.
My
understanding
is
that
the
thresholds
actually
went
up
in
some
cases.
I
forget
what
year,
but
I
thought
it
was
very
recently,
maybe
2016
in
the
midst
of
when
councilor
Pressley,
then
councilor,
Pressley
and
I
were
talking
about
this
ordinance
that,
in
fact,
there's
a
lot
more
discretion
for
department
heads
who
are
signing
contracts
now,
not
just
even
up
to
35,000
but
anything
50,000
and
below.
B
They
have
a
certain
level
of
discretion
and
then
even
above
50,000,
you
can
do
a
sealed
bid
that
takes
into
account
not
just
the
lowest
bidder
but
other
factors
as
long
as
they're
kind
of
written
in
advance
and
provided
is
that
as
I
understanding
correct
that
we
actually
do
have
it's
not
just
kind
of
straight
lowest
bid
in
that
at
those
levels?
Yes,.
D
I
think
I
think
you
are
absolutely
right.
There
was
adjustments
made
and
numbers
increase
that
can
get
back
to
the
the
real
numbers,
but
when
you're
looking
at
when
you
look
at
some
of
the
contract
for
construction,
which
is
where
we
have
some
of
our
largest
dollars
or
some
of
the
large
number
of
bids,
we
really
need
to
shift
the
dial.
You
don't
have
that
kind
of
discretion
and
that's
a
problem.
We'd
love
to
work
with
the
council
to
begin
address,
then.
B
Okay,
okay,
I
guess:
I
need
a
little
more
detail
on
what
sort
of
flexibility
is
missing,
because
it
seems
that,
for
example,
entities
like
Massport
have
been
able
to
work
very
well
within
the
current
framework
and
able
to
to
achieve
success,
kind
of
encouraging
the
joint
ventures
incurred
in
building
in
the
right
criteria
so
that
they
have
seen
more
inclusionary
spending
even
without
legal
change.
So.
D
We
we
in
fact
adopted
much
of
the
massive
Massport
language,
and
so
there
are
seven
criteria
that
we're
looking
for
diversity
in
land
disposition.
Now
top
of
my
head
we're
looking
for
the
legal
team
to
be
diverse,
we're
looking
for
the
architectural
team
to
be
to
show
diversity,
ownership,
ownership
participation.
We
were
looking
for
the
developer.
D
We
are
looking
for
GC
and
I'm,
forgetting
the
other
couple
of
criterias
will
get
that
wording
for
you,
but
it's
the
same
seven
criteria
that
Massport
put
out
we
adopted
and
we
are
scoring
and
put
in
there
clearly
two
different
things
on
the
front
end.
If
you
don't
supply
that
information
you're
disqualified,
so
everybody
supplies
information
on
the
back
end.
We
are
using
it
to
weigh
who
is
getting
selected
and
so
in
fact,
we've
we've
adopted
and
learned
from
mass
porting.
You
absolutely
correct.
J
And
councils,
if
I
might
just
underscore
that,
because
that
came
from
a
process
which
the
state
had
gone
through
a
number
of
years
ago
on
its
committees
trying
to
begin
toward
to
address
that
and
what
that
allows
to
do,
the
disparity
study
doesn't
even
come
into
the
conversation.
This
is
a
selection
criteria.
Just
says
is
good
business
and
if
you
want
this
business,
these
are
the
things
that
you
need
to
do
and
I
can
tell
you
when
that's
in
place
opportunities
present
themselves.
When
that
is
not
in
place,
we
have
the
seaport.
J
D
There
is
not
a
lot
of
creativity
and-
and
when
you
have
perhaps
in
this
this
the
thing
that
bothers
me,
the
most
a
bad
actor
who
is
not
following
city
regulations
on
BR
JP,
for
instance.
We
cannot
consider
that
when
we
are
selecting
the
contractor
in
that
case,
so
I
just
invite.
The
council
to
work
with
us
have
a
further
conversation
on
30,
B
and
understand
this,
and
we
can
bring
some
folks
down
and
really
dive
dive
deep
and
see
what
we
can
do
together
to
address
that.
Thank.
B
C
I
want
to
echo
the
sentiments
of
my
colleague
Michelle,
who
I
think
it's
important,
that
we
use
the
current
tools
that
we
have
in
terms
of
pushing
through
or
insisting
and
encouraging
that
we
get
diversity
without
changing
I'm
happy
to
have
the
conversation
about
whether
we
need
to
change
and
work
with
you
to
change.
30
B,
but
I
think
we
do
have
more
discretion
in
terms
of
requiring
diversity
and
encouraging
that
currently
so
I'd
left
I
think
it's
an
an
both,
so
I
don't
want
to
put
off
to
the
future.
C
We
have
to
do
30
B
first.
Otherwise
we
can't
change
anything.
I
want
us
to
be
working
on
both
for
this
panel.
I
want
to.
Thank
you.
If
your
amazing
presentation
leadership,
your
engagement
on
these
very
important
issues,
I'm
very
interested
in
the
survey
results
of
those
maybe
shared-
is
that
something
that
you
could
share
with
us.
That
would
be
really
helpful,
as
well
as
the
recommendations
that
you
had
for
us
attorney
Feaster.
C
That
would
be
helpful
and
thank
you
for
joining
us
and
for
saying
chief
barrows
I
I
did
want
to
come
back
to
the
size
of
contracts.
There
is
a
business
minority
owned
business
in
my
district,
does
good
work
and
is
unable
to
really
compete
on
some
of
the.
This
is
a
food
service
company,
particularly
in
our
schools,
because
the
way
the
RFP
is
written,
it's
really
written
toward
large
companies,
and
it
is
not
something
that
this
particular
MBE
can
then
get
their
foot
in
the
door.
C
So
if
you
could
just
speak
to,
we
heard
both
panelists
here
mention
the
size
of
contracts.
It's
something
that
I've
mentioned
in
previous
hearings.
Could
you
talk
about
what
your
office
is
doing
to
break
because
that's
another
tool
that
I
think
that
we
can
do
now
without
waiting
to
change?
You
know
state
law
or
any
other
kind
of
law,
yeah.
D
No
I
wholeheartedly
agree.
There
are
things
we
can
do
now
are
trying
to
do
now,
more
things
to
be
done.
There
are,
however,
things
that
encourage
us
to
have
conversations
about
that.
Look
at
the
legal
parameters
we
work
in
and
and
I
do
think
that
the
disparity
study
speaks
to
a
whole
set
of
other
things
that
we
have
to
do
as
government.
That
is
really
important,
so
I
think
it
together.
D
The
set
of
tools
allow
us
to
move
the
needle
and
without
a
comprehensive
approach
we
would
be
hampered
in
other
places,
that
we
shouldn't
be
to
the
to
the
size
of
contracts.
That
is
one
of
the
that
is
one
of
the
the
practices
that
are
really
important,
and
so
director,
Barrios
milna
and
her
team
are
meeting
with
actively
meeting
with
the
department's
to
look
at
the
size
of
contracts
and
understand
the
opportunities,
which
is
why
we
use
the
example
of
the
landscaping
company,
and
then
we
also
use
the
example
of
the
recycling
carts
right.
D
So
that
was
broken
out,
because
we
felt
there
was
an
opportunity
there,
as
a
city,
to
provide
an
opportunity
that
typically
is
bundled
and
so
in
the
food
contract.
That
is
a
conversation
that
has
been
had
I
will
get
you
an
update
on
that
would
love
to
know
the
business,
so
we
can
just
have
them
in
tow.
It's
really
important
to
understand
whether
there
is
an
opportunity
for
someone
to
apply
or
not
so
we
can
focus
our
energy
no.
C
D
D
C
L
Thank
You
council
fire
it
in.
Thank
you
to
the
panelists
for
your
great
work
for
so
many
so
many
years,
and
thank
you
to
the
chief
Paris
barrels
as
well
for
Fiat
work.
I
just
had
a
maybe
a
comment
and
a
question.
Several
months
ago,
I
was
at
a
there
was
a
minority-owned
business
in
my
district
on
Tyler
Street
in
downtown
Boston
Chinatown
and
the
owner
raised
his
rent
Yonsei
here
salon,
and
we
were
able
to
work
closely
with
the
Chinese
progressive
association
with
the
with
the
community
and
finally,
the
landlord
was
being
reasonable.
L
But
what
what
can
we
do
in
terms
of
helping
already
small
business
owners?
Minority-Owned
small
businesses,
women-owned
businesses?
You
know
they've
been
in
the
city
for
20-30
years
during
lean
times
or
difficult
times,
and
now
the
economy
is
booming
in
the
going
up,
and
you
know
what
are
we
gonna
do
for
them?
How
are
we
gonna
save
save
their
small
business
that
they
provide
a
great
service
to
the
community
as
well.
I
said
when
I
was
working
with
this
small
businessman
in
Chinatown.
L
I
saw
these
elderly
woman
that
had
no
money,
literally
going
in
there
with
two
dollars
to
help
pay
for
this
guy's
legal
bills.
So
he
could
have
have
legal
representation
in
court
during
this
eviction
process,
but
I
think
we're
better
than
that.
I
think
we
we
need
to
work
harder.
We're
closer
work,
smarter
to
make
sure
that
our
small
businesses
that
really
have
provided
so
much
services
to
our
city
to
our
to
our
neighborhoods
I
think
we
can
do
a
better
job
in
keeping
them
in
business
and
I.
Think
we
owe
it
to
them.
L
Women
owned
companies,
minority-owned
companies.
You
know
we
have
these
great
companies
in
downtown
Boston
and
the
pin
in
from
my
district.
But
let's
you
know,
maybe
there's
a
role
for
the
great
companies
to
play
in
this
debate
as
well.
To
make
sure
we
keep
our
small
businesses
in
this
city
just
want
to
see
what
your
comments
might
be
on
that.
J
Well,
counsel,
you
you
I
mean
you,
you've
touched
a
hot-button
issue
and
I
think
that
if
I
was
to
look
at
it
for
me
being
one
who
represents
developers,
I
would
say
that
what
we
can
begin
to
look
at
is
one
looking
at
the
affordability
question,
not
only
in
our
residential
components,
but
also
in
our
retail
and
commercial
spaces
as
well.
We
would
be
talking
about
as
things
as
properties
come
online
that
have
a
commercial
component.
J
Maybe
we're
talking
about
the
sizes
of
units
where
that
we
can
have
which
will
service
the
types
of
businesses,
because
I
don't
think
you're
going
to
be
able
the
way
the
booming
market
is
here
in
Boston
and
and
what
I
said
earlier
about
seaport
is
an
example
where
most
folks,
most
of
those
small
businesses,
you're
talking
about,
would
even
have
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
to
rent
and
rent
their
because
of
what
their
per
square
foot
costs
is.
So
it's
somewhat
of
a
policy
piece,
it's
somewhat
of
looking
at
it,
but
I.
J
You
know
I
I,
think
is
gonna
warrant
further
discussion
on
how
you
can
accomplish
that
and
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
accomplish
it
on
a
case-by-case
eviction
process.
I
mean
you
may
have
saved
this
person
for
now.
If
that
person
has
been
saved,
but
that's
not
gonna
be
a
long-term
solution
for
that
individual
because
those
rents
are
going
to
continue
to
grow
unless
you've
been
able
to
work
out
a
particular
deal.
J
K
You
know
just
to
add
to
what
mr.
Feaster
said.
First
I
appreciate
your
bringing
up
that
issue,
because
I
know
for
many
of
our
members
who
have
storefronts
rent
is
an
increasing
burden
on
them,
and
so
you
know
I
know
for
Beck
mode.
We
don't
have
I,
wouldn't
be
able
to
say
right
now
what
our
primary
response
to
that
would
be.
K
L
M
Have
to
do
with
our
our
future
of
Boston,
ensuring
that
we
have
actual
businesses
that
are
run
by
Bostonians
and
people
of
color,
because
we're
such
a
huge
consumer
as
the
city.
We
will
drive
a
market
and
we
can
create
or
we
can
destroy
one,
and
so
thank
you
so
much
both
for
coming
to
testify,
I
am
I
have
been
particularly
walky,
are
watching
how
the
market
can
be
driven
and
through
zoning
and
I.
M
Don't
know
if
you
have
thoughts
or
if
you
had
some
ideas,
there's
two
ways
in
which
I
was
hoping
I'm
following
up
on
councillor
Flynn's
ideas
for
looking
at
ways
in
which
commercial
space
but
an
ID.
We
already
have
an
IDP
program
for
affordable
housing
units.
Is
there
a
possible
possibility?
We
could
think
of
an
IDP
program
for
affordable
commercial
units
as
we
build
out
large
commercial
spaces,
so
assuring
that
when
this,
when
the
another
seaport
or
an
opportunity
or
Suffolk
Downs,
is
built,
there's
a
certain
percentage
within
zoning.
M
That's
required
for
affordable
and
local
businesses.
So
that's
one
suggestion
I
have
and
the
other
two
and
I'd
love
your
thoughts
on
that
and
the
other
suggestion
I
have
is
with
regards
in
general
to
what
we,
the
PDA
process,
we're
going
into
for
Suffolk
Downs
expected
to
build
about
10,000
housing
units.
M
It's
going
to
be
mixed-use
we're
gonna,
it's
one
of
its
the
single
largest
development
in
Boston's
history
for
four
in
five
phases
over
20
years,
and
one
of
the
commitments
we
have
as
mitigation
is
that
a
certain
percentage
of
the
commercial
space
will
be
given
to
local
folks,
which
I
think
is
a
good
form
of
mitigation.
But
I
think
it
should
be
not
as
a
give,
but
as
a
requirement
for
building
such
massive
amounts
of
space
in
our
Boston
in
Boston.
M
M
J
H
J
So
what
we
have
to
do,
oftentimes
I
know-
and
even
in
my
own
experiences
we
think
about
the
now,
but
if
we
have
to
think
longer
down
the
road
to
what
may
happen
in
the
future,
so
I
think
it's
a
starting
point.
Yes
to
answer
your
question
more
directly,
at
least
from
my
perspective,
zoning.
If
you
change
their
put
the
requirements
of
new
zoning,
then
you
have
a
hold
on
the
process
and
you
can
influence
how
that
is
handled
so
I
would
say.
J
M
So
I
really
am
interested
in
trying
to
figure
out
how
this
could
work
in
terms
of
zoning,
but
I
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
too,
that
we
had
tried
and
we
met
with
some
legal
resistance
and
so
we're
trying
to
go
back
to
the
table
to
figure
this
out
so
we'll
work
to
figure
it
out.
Ultimately,
okay,
Thank.
A
A
A
I
have
Robert
Newton
Priscilla
Flint
blanks
she,
banks,
Carl,
looks
like
Coosh,
quashed
quatrain
thank
you
and
Martin
Evans,
and
just
tea
up
right
either
way
we
can
go
one
for
one,
so
Robin
Newton
you've
been
patiently
waiting
in
you
signed
in
first,
so
an
order
of
business
and
the
microphone
state,
your
name
and
affiliation
for
the
record.
Okay,
my
name.
F
I'm,
a
tax
accountant
and
the
reason
I'm
here,
because
I
got
clients
like
small
business
clients,
said
I
helped
get
certified
like
eight
a
HUBZone
certification
in
7,
J
certification,
so
I
wonder,
come
here
to
get
more
information
and
one
of
the
things
listen
to
people.
Talking
about
all
the
paperwork
and
compliance
that
small
businesses
have
to
deal
with,
I,
don't
say:
Wow
they're
gonna
have
to
get
certified
in
the
city
of
Boston.
It's
gonna
do
do
business
in
the
city
of
Boston,
along
with
the
AAE
HUBZone
certification
and
7jz
certification.
F
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
paperwork,
so
I
just
want
to
bring
that
up.
That
kind
of
important,
because
the
clients
I
have
normally
their
type
of
guys
who
go
out
there
and
good
job
do
a
good
job
working.
But
we're
gonna
come
to
dealing
with
all
these
different
compliance
and
paperwork.
They
do
every
probably
and
I,
try
to
turn
their
case
to
make
sure
they
do
this
and
do
that
and
make
sure
they
do
it
on
a
timely
manner.
So
it's
kind
of
important.
A
A
N
My
name
is
Karl
Kwaku
and
I'm
a
board
member
for
the
Massachusetts
minority.
Contractors
Association
I
would
first
like
to
thank
city
councilors
for
making
the
time
to
schedule.
This
presentation,
the
scheduled
public
hearing
to
hear
directly
from
the
minority
construction
contractors
vendors
and
for
such
professional
services
firm
about
how
the
lack
of
access
to
opportunity
in
city
contracts
negatively
impacts,
minority
business
growth,
financial
sustainability
and
capacity
building.
It
was
encouraging
to
hear
the
city's
report
of
how
things
are
trending
in
a
positive
direction.
N
It
was
encouraging
to
hear
the
city
offering
technical
supports
of
the
small
businesses
and
it
was
encouraging
to
hear
the
city
had
delved
into
the
reasons
why
Mb
participation
has
fallen
off.
It
was
also
very
encouraging
to
hear
the
in-depth
questions
and
positive
recommendations
by
the
city
councillors.
N
Instead,
MMCA
urges
you
to
continue
your
strong
advocacy
for
those
of
us
who
ply
our
trade
struggle
to
keep
our
doors
open
and
serve
as
a
primary
source
of
jobs
and
business
opportunities
for
minorities
in
the
construction,
trade
and
professional
services
industry.
Despite
the
many
obstacles
we
face
every
day,
the
contract
opportunities
with
the
city
should
be
an
accessible,
renewable
and
expandable
resource
a
staple
in
the
growth
plan
of
these
businesses,
and
not
the
elusive
intangibles
that
they
have
been
today.
N
Mmca
pledges
to
work
with
you
in
the
in
demanding
that
the
current
city
administration
develop
a
comprehensive
access
to
up
policy
and
programs
than
mirrors
and
embraces
the
diversity
of
the
city.
The
integrity
and
credibility
of
the
city's
city
of
Boston's
diversity.
Inclusion
program
can
only
be
sustained
if
minority
businesses,
utilize
and
contract
utila
utilization
and
contract
awards
are
monitored
and
compiled
through
data.
N
N
Collectively,
we
must
do
better
as
a
world-class
City,
and
we
would
actually
ask
the
city
to
reach
out
and
impose
the
inclusion
requirements
into
the
private
sector
right
now.
The
minority
businesses
are
being
left
on
the
sidelines
while
the
greatest
most
continuous
construction
boom
in
Boston's
history
reporting.
Twenty
one
point:
five
billion
dollars
in
construction
last
year
continues
to
shut
out
minority
businesses
through
the
continued
use
of
obstacles
to
entry
allegations.
The
minority
businesses
do
not
exist
and
acceptance
of
the
usual
excuses
for
not
contracting
minority
businesses.
N
There
has
been
a
lot
of
talk
of
inclusion,
but
there
has
been
little
real
effort,
although
I
was
glad
to
hear
about
the
city's
efforts
to
include
technical
support,
but
there
has
been
little
real
effort
in
the
whip,
made
ways
of
outreach
tools,
training,
mentorships
and
joint
ventures
to
implement
the
change.
I'm
submitting
a
copy
of
this
testimony
for
the
public
record
and
all
for
the
support
of
MMCA.
And
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
today.
Thank.
A
O
You
guys
and
I'll
try
to
be
short:
I've
never
been
on
minority
vendor
full
disclosure,
one
of
the
reasons
you'd
probably
starve
to
death.
The
small
amounts
that
you
get
I
don't
know.
If
anyone
can
live
off
of
10%
I
built,
my
business
took
business
from
Verizon
and
my
largest
client
was
United
States
Marine
Corps.
O
When
I
began
to
work
for
accounting
companies,
they
would
bring
us
in
to
read
RFPs
for
people,
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
give
you
an
idea,
because
someone
asked
me
to
come
down
and
speak
first,
it's
it's
not
profitable
to
be
a
minority
vendor
you
guys.
The
city
of
Boston
has
done
studies
for
probably
about
25
years
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
again,
and
it's
really
difficult
I'm,
a
private
investor.
O
Not
the
professionals,
not
someone
like
me
or
Joe,
but
the
people
were
just
starting
and
then
ask
them
why
they
can't
eat
and
then
be
a
policy
based
on
that
we're
just
talking
to
each
other.
We're
making
each
other
feel
good,
but
it
doesn't
impact
the
real
people
down
here.
They're,
never
gonna
get
any
up.
They
never
feel
included.
That's
why
people
don't
vote
people
who
feel
included,
because
it's
us
in
here
talking
me
and
John.
We
both
went
to
Dartmouth.
O
We
just
in
here
talking
having
fun
the
people
at
the
bottom
that
are
really
impacted.
You
all
haven't
heard
from
them
come
in
and
let
them
tell
you
why
they
can't
compete
and
then
look
at
what,
when
you,
when
you
award
these
contracts,
what
is
Team
Green
gonna
do
for
somebody
that
doesn't
encourage
me
to
have
a
business.
O
It
doesn't
so
I
would
just
say
if
you
guys
can
really
bring
in
those
people
who
don't
know
what
they're
doing,
who
are
fumbling
who've,
never
gotten
a
contract
and
just
ask
him:
why
figured
that
out
and
I
know
you've
gotten
some
Intel
from
different
people,
but
that's
high-level
Intel.
That's
us
talking
to
us
one
of
the
reasons:
I've
never
done
anything
under
the
guise
of
the
city
of
Boston
I,
owned
properties
when
I
sell
them,
I
call
Sheila,
Dillon
and
say:
hey
I
got
six
units.
O
If
you
want,
if
you
have
anyone
that
I'll
give
them
too
I,
don't
go
to
that
program.
I
just
give
them
to
him.
I
get
calls
from
city
councilors.
All
the
time
saying:
hey
I
got
someone
that's
actually
last
week,
so
I'm
sleeping
in
the
car
I.
Don't
do
it
any
of
the
guys
at
the
city
programs
because
they
don't
make
sense
to
me.
I
would
love
for
you
all
to
talk
to
the
regular
people
and
by
the
way,
I
know
miss
councillor.
O
Janey
I've
done
a
project
on
the
house,
see
you're
walking
around
talking
to
people
so
I
know
she
has
the
ears
to
the
ground.
Weary
and
I
know
you
guys
do
too,
but
listen
these
long
meetings,
you
all
talking
back
and
forth
and
not
bringing
it
the
people
who
aren't
making
any
money
in
and
just
listening
to
them.
First
take
that
Intel,
gleaming
and
figure
out
why
it's
not
working.
O
There's
no
reason,
and
by
the
way
before
I
finish,
I
want
to
say
the
city
of
Boston:
does
a
excellent
job
are
reaching
out
to
people
individually?
It's
just
the
system
doesn't
work
individually.
If
someone
comes
in
and
can
get
you
guys
attention,
you
help,
but
the
system
does
the
system
is
built
so
that
two
of
us
are
gonna
make
it
two
of
us
are
gonna,
have
all
of
the
money
in
the
minority
processing
the
rest
is
starving
and
that's
what
the
problem
is.
O
It's
me
and
somebody
else,
and
you
know
so-
we
got
to
figure
out
how
to
spread,
spread
this
around
and
realize
that
$10,000
contracts
that
helps
nobody
there's
a
matter
of
fact
by
the
time
they
spent
all
their
money,
buying
the
equipment
and
they
get
that
ten
thousand.
It's
nothing.
Thank
you
guys.
Thank.
A
I
Account
so
my
name
is
Michelle
a
Ferguson
I'm,
the
owner
of
Hilton
Realty,
Inc
I
am
here
today
because
I
want
to
testify
so
I
think
this
issue
is
a
I
appreciate.
This
counsel
and
I
appreciate
you
holding
this
hearing,
but
I
think
this
issue
stretched
beyond
our
city.
It
exists
even
when
we
try
to
do
business
outside
the
city,
so
I
am
federally
certified.
My
business
is
also
state
certified.
I
My
city
application
in
my
zone,
application
are
in
processing
and
I
did
apply
to
be
a
local
owned
business,
but
I
was
denied
and
I
was
not
given
a
reason
why
I
was
denied.
There
was
no
feedback,
so
I
think
it's
hard
to
deny
someone,
but
not
tell
them
why
you're
denying
someone
I
don't
know
if
it's,
because
my
business
is
only
nine
months
old
or
what
it's
from
continuing
on
I
am
through
waiting.
I
So
my
business
is
nine
months
old,
I
hired
employees,
I
lost
those
employees
because
we
were
waiting
on
contracts
and
I
could
not
support
so
to
just
give
you
the
feedback
that
this
gentleman
just
asked
for
it
takes
time
and
money.
My
time
is
more
important
than
my
money
as
a
business
owner
I
spend
I'm
I
were
not
like
just
working
on
our
business.
A
lot
of
us
are
working
additional
jobs
as
well.
I
So
when
you
think
about
the
time
that
we're
spending
our
time
is
really
important
and
systems
that,
like
streamline
our
time,
that
we
spend
are
extremely
helpful,
so
I
just
want
to
talk
about
very
often
the
MWe
s
are
the
first
to
feel
and
the
last
to
contract.
Pairing
business
coaches
is
a
very
good
intention
and
they
are
outstanding
assets
to
us.
I
Secondly,
I
think
so:
there's
currently
a
mentor
program
that
is
offered.
However,
you
have
to
be
two
years
old
in
order
to
participate
in
that
mentor
program,
so
we're
leaving
our
youngest
businesses
on
their
own
to
feed
themselves,
and
we
wonder
why
there's
like
this
small
amount
of
minority-owned
businesses
I
think
you
know
doing.
That
is
crippling
us
and
it
also
is
like
leaving
a
new
year
newborn
on
its
and
to
nurse
itself,
like
I.
I
I
It
is
extreme.
This
these
certifications
are
extremely
helpful,
but
it
is
a
lot
of
work
to
do
these
certifications
because
you
have
to
read
up
on
everything.
That's
online,
you
have
to
not
only
are
you
working
on
the
certifications,
you're,
also
preparing
bids
proposals,
you're
also
registering
your
business
and
you're,
also
watching
the
RFPs
every
single
day,
Thank
You
counselor
will
for
mentioning
that
you're
watching
this
system
and
it's
a
ton
of
reading-
and
this
is
all
volunteer
work
for
us-
we're
not
getting
paid
for
any
of
this.
So
it's
it's.
I
I
We
can't
I
don't
want
to
be
a
busybody.
I
want
to
actually
be
busy
on
contracts.
I,
don't
want
to
go
to
a
million
meetings
and
have
them
feed
me.
I
want
to
actually
go
to
the
right
meeting,
so
I
can
get
with
the
right
people.
So,
when
I
ask
for
agendas
it's
it
would
be
helpful
if
they
could
provide
them
so
having
the
right
people
in
the
positioning
that
understand
where
small
businesses
we
don't
know
everything
we
we
are
kind
of
learning
as
we
go.
I
I
Someone
can
just
come
up
and
take
it
from
me.
They
have
the
property
address.
They
know
where
to
go
and
find
it.
It's
it's
a
legal
sale,
so
I
was
extremely
hesitant
to
supply
that
information,
because
it's
it
this
the
system
is
not
structured
in
a
in
a
place
where
it
protects
us
as
small
business
owners,
and
that
may
be
why
so
many
mb's
are
dropping
off.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thanks.
A
P
You
good
afternoon
my
name
is
Ellington
Jackson
I
run
a
small
business
called
Linden
block.
I
was
asked
to
come,
I'll,
try
and
keep
this
brief.
I
was
having
a
conversation
earlier
about
the
multiplier
effect
when
it
comes
to
contracts
of
being
awarded
more
so
than
just
the
monetary
value
of
the
contract
that
isn't
being
awarded
to
businesses
of
color.
It's
also
the
multiplier
effect
that
that
community
also
misses
out
on.
P
There
was
some
research
done
where
a
marginal
distribution
of
wealth
and
the
marginal
propensity
of
consumption
was
put
together
and
sort
of
based
on
the
contract.
The
information
that
was
put
out
I
did
my
best
to
sort
of
calculate
what
the
marginal
propensity
to
consume
would
be
and
then
therefore
figure
out
what
the
multiplier
effect
of
contracts
not
being
awarded
to
brown
and
black
businesses
works
out
to
be,
and
it
works
out
to
be
roughly
about
two
point.
P
Four
four,
which
is
two
point:
one
four
percent
greater
than
non
businesses
of
color,
so
I
think
it's
important
to
know
that
when
businesses
of
color
don't
receive
contracts,
the
professional
services
that
we're
concerned
about
those
two,
those
businesses
also
don't
necessarily
receive
those
funds.
They
don't
go
into
business,
there's
an
entire
economic
effect.
This
sort
of
spirals
out
when
those
businesses
don't
receive
those
contracts.
I
happen
to
be
one
of
those
business
I'm
a
lending
business.
P
So
if,
if
a
developer
doesn't
necessarily
get
a
contract,
maybe
that
developer
then
doesn't
come
to
me
for
financing.
So
I,
don't
necessarily
apply
for
a
contract
with
the
city,
but
my
clientele
would
so
I'm
sort
of
tangental
II
impacted
as
well.
So
I
just
want
to
sort
of
add
that
color
in
context
to
the
conversation.
Thank.
A
You
good
thank
you.
This
is
the
last
call
for
public
testimony.
Anyone
else
in
the
gallery
wish
to
offer
public
testimony,
may
do
so
now,
seeing
and
hearing
no
additional
desire
that
will
conclude
public
testimony
portion
and
will
also
conclude
this
hearing
on
with
respect
to
docket
zero,
three
four,
eight,
an
order
for
hearing
regarding
equity
in
the
city
of
Boston
procurement,
in
purchasing
co-sponsored
by
my
colleague,
City
Council,
michelle
wu
and
city
council,
Kim
Janie,
and
as
a
result,
the
chair
and
government
operations
and
the
committee
will
adjourn.
Thank
you.