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Dockets #0628-0628 Fiscal Year 2020 Budget: Inspectional Services Department
A
Throughout
the
hearing
process
there
was
a
sign-in
sheet
to
my
left
by
the
door.
We
ask
that
you
state
your
name
any
affiliation
and
address
and
please
check
the
box.
Yes,
if
you
do
wish
to
testify,
there
are
several
ways
that
the
public
can
engage
in
this
process
by
coming
to
a
public
hearing
like
this
one
there's
also
a
hearing
dedicated
to
public
testimony
on
June
4th
anytime
from
2
p.m.
to
6
p.m.
A
we
will
be
here,
at
least
for
that
timeframe
and
will
stay
as
long
as
we
need
to
to
hear
from
everyone
who
would
like
to
speak
on
the
budget.
We
also
will
take
your
mail
in
testimony
committee
on
ways
and
means
city,
council,
fifth,
floor
Boston,
City,
Hall,
Boston,
Mass,
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well
as
emailing.
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committee
at
sea
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at
Boston
gov.
A
Next
to
him
is
city
councilor,
at-large,
Aneesa,
sabe
George,
as
well
as
district
5
city
councilor,
Tim,
McCarthy
and
I
also
have
a
letter
from
a
colleague,
DMSO
chair,
I
regret
that
I
am
unable
to
detect
yea
attend
today's
hearing
of
the
Committee
on
ways
and
means
FY
20,
but
for
the
city's
inspectional
Services
Division,
my
staff
will
be
in
attendance
and
I
look
forward
to
reviewing
the
recording
of
this
hearing.
Please
read
this
letter
into
the
public
record.
B
Good
Thank
You
councillor,
it's
always
a
pleasure
to
come
in
and
talk
about
is
T
because
you
know
based
on
fact
and
in
general
temperament
throughout
the
city.
We
know
that
is
T
is
doing
a
much
better
job.
We
have
worked
diligently
to
change
the
attitude
and
an
ist
that
we're
really
a
department
that
achieves
compliance
through
assistance.
B
B
We're
you
know
experiencing
our
second
largest
growth
in
the
history
of
the
city,
but
yet
through
a
combined
effort
of
technology
and
good
management,
stats,
we're
able
to
stay
on
top
of
it
and
keep
things
moving
so
that
there
never
been
any
fatalities
are
related
to
the
work
that
we
do
and
we
feel
that
we're
ready
and
open
for
any
constituent
to
come
to
us
for
assistance
and
guidance.
I
defer
to
your
questions.
A
B
Year,
right,
it's
coming
out
of
our
budget
this
year,
you'll
see
that
reflected
in
the
overall
budget,
as
well
as
the
full-time
equivalents
right.
We
feel
overall
that
after
three
years
now
working
with
animal
care
at
ISD,
we
have
worked
diligently
with
them
and
you
know
they
developed
a
lot
of
good
programs,
a
lot
of
good
strategies
and
we
find
that
it's
less
about
enforcement,
and
it's
more
about
public
awareness
and
educational
programs.
We
have
worked
very
closely
with
Commissioner,
with
chief
cook,
to
you
know,
make
sure
that
a
transition
is
smooth.
B
A
B
Overall
numbers,
it
looks
like
we've
gone
up
in
staff
one,
but
the
reality
is
is
the
way
things
are
working
like
we've
brought
on
to
new
FTEs
for
the
short
term
rental
program,
we've
brought
on
two
clerks
and
then
through
really
good
management.
We've
been
shifting
a
lot
of
roles
at
ISD,
primarily
with
administrative
staff,
so
that
we
can
put
support
into
those
areas
that
we
need
that
support
and.
A
A
B
What
we've
done
is
because
you
know
in
in
prior
years
before
animal
care
came
to
us.
Some
of
the
data
was
questionable
whether
it
was
being
recorded
properly
or
not.
Over
the
past
three
years,
working
with
the
budget
office,
we've
been
really,
you
know
very
diligent
about
analyzing
what
the
actual
cost
for
animal
care
are
so
you'll
see.
There
are
a
number
of
different
areas
in
the
budget
that
we've
reduced
numbers,
its
attributable
directly
to
animal
care
and
they're.
These
are
actual
numbers
now.
This
is
what
it's
actually
been
costing
us
to
manage.
That
department.
B
B
It's
$300
a
day,
fine
and
the
second
one
that
is
being
granted
an
injunction
that
we
will
not
be
able
to
find,
find
the
platforms
and
then
the
third
one
is
the
supplying
us
with
data
it's
going
to
be
on
a
monthly
basis
and
I
think
this
is
a
tremendous
success
for
us
in
the
city,
because
the
short-term
rental
program
registration
program
is,
you
know,
in
our
opinion,
lacking
behind
very
seriously
on
the
registrations.
We
can
a
directly
attribute
that
to
the
fact
that
this
lawsuit
people
were
very
concerned
about
it.
B
We
have
started
a
very
strong
ad
campaign
as
we're
out
there
now,
so
the
the
attorneys
have
until
I
believe
it's
next
month
or
a
couple
weeks.
It's
it's
in
the
order
to
have
summary
statements
on
on
the
combined
effort
of
what
that
injunction
means,
but
I
think
we
come
out
of
it
in
a
very
good
good
position
and
we're
we're
all
tooled
up
now
and
ready
to
go.
We've
really
been
primarily
trying
to
get
the
registrations
going.
B
We
have
you
know
in
conjunction
with
with
to
it
and
in
the
Media
Group
we
I'm
sure
you
started
to
see
some
of
the
ads
coming
out
in
very
different
locations.
We've
also
connected
the
building
department
in
the
rental
registry,
with
short-term
rentals,
so
that
there's
a
whole
connection
now
between
these
three
databases
of
requiring
people.
To
do
that,
so
we
expect
to
see
a
really
good
uptick
in
this.
A
C
C
A
little
bit
but
and
then
based
on
the
budget
here,
it's
costing
around
18
and
some
change
to
run
notes.
So
your
department,
your
division,
is
creating
tremendous
value
for
for
our
city,
I,
look
at
the
overall
operating
budget.
Your
overall
operating
budget
is
decreasing
and
your
permit
employees
line
is
also
decreasing,
not
sure
how
much
of
that
is
sort
of
a
direct
correlation
to
moving
animal
control
from
inspectional
services
out
to
parks,
but
think
about.
C
Just
in
the
last
couple
of
years,
we've
put
the
sandwich
board
ordinance
on
you
with
what
the
plastic
bag
ordinance
on.
You,
we've
put
the
short-term
rental
ordinance
on
you.
You
put
parental
registration,
you're,
doing
the
data
collection
and
partnership
with
D
and
D
on
the
Jim
Brooks
stabilization.
How
are
you
doing
all
of
that
which
is
more
much
more
with
less
well.
B
Because
I
think
we're
operating
from
a
management
platform,
that's
that's
a
lot
smarter,
we're
trying
to
be
less
reactive
and
more
proactive.
I
can
explain
in
the
in
the
rental
registry
world.
The
inspections
on
the
rental
registry
side
are
going
up,
which
is
causing
a
great
reduction
in
the
reactive
inspections
that
are
called
for
from
housing
because
we're
putting
out
there
they've
got
a
quality
of
housing
as
it
goes
forward.
We
are
transferring
an
additional
eight
inspectors
to
the
rental
registry
inspection
format,
because
of
that
that
makes
a
lot
more
sense
technology.
B
You
know,
as
I
have
talked
about
every
year
that
I've
sat
with
you
is
getting
better
and
far
more
useful,
more
intuitive
do
it
is
a
very
active
partner
and
in
what
we
do
in
the
analytical
piece
of
what
takes
place
this
year
there
was
a
major
chain
and
there's
a
change
in
the
sanitary
code
which
it
changed.
The
whole
format
of
inspections
in
in
the
health
world
do
what
has
been
working
vehemently
with
us
to
get
that
up
into
the
right
system.
B
New
forms
have
been
generated,
they're
working
now
coming
very
close
to
a
completion,
probably
within
the
next
four
weeks
of
an
app
for
the
sanitary
code.
So
that'll
reduce
a
lot
of
the
administrative
requirements.
It
reduces
a
lot
of
administrative
time
being
spent
by
inspectors
coming
back
to
the
office
to
enter
in
data.
They
will
be
able
to
do
this
all
from
the
field,
and
this
is
not
pie
in
the
sky
stuff.
C
B
No
I
think
the
reality
of
that
is
that
rating
system.
It's
it's
important
to
me
that
you
know
are
the
quality
of
our
restaurants,
is
at
a
very
high
level.
I
look
at
it.
First
from
a
life
safety
point
of
view.
We
don't
want
anybody
getting
sick.
We
look
at
it
from
an
economic
view,
because
people
are
perceptions
about
things
that
aren't
real.
We're
able
to
produce
with
our
letter
grading
a
factual
statement
about
it.
B
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
conveying
to
you
know
all
our
constituents
that
we
believe
in
what
we
do.
I
have
faith
in
the
inspectors,
so
that
yes
I,
do
the
follow-up
meal
after
a
business
has
been
closed,
but
I
think
that's,
that's
prudent
and
I
think
it
just
shows
that
we
have
faith
in
the
system
that
we're
managing
and.
C
Having
a
front
row
seat
as
a
chair
of
government
operations,
I
can
attest
to
the
amount
of
additional
work
that
we've
put
on
you
in
response
to
concerns
we're
getting
from
the
citizens
but
at
the
same
token,
I
know
that
you've,
arguably
probably
one
of
the
most
responsive
in
city
government.
Any
time
me
and
my
staff
have
called
you
any
hour
of
the
day
any
day
of
the
week.
It's
a
reflection
of
your
commitment
to
city,
but
also
the
team
that
you
have
here
and
also.
C
Are
over
at
10:10
mass,
they
have
the
unsung
heroes.
I
think
it
also
helps
that
you
were
spent
a
portion
of
your
career
on
the
other
side
of
the
counter,
which
kind
of
helps
you
maybe
make
these
decisions.
So
thank
you
impressed
on
that
front
and
we're
gonna
continue
to
continue
to
pass
ordinances
here
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
on
the
council
were
going
to
continue
to
put
them
in
your
department.
B
C
C
B
That
you're
just
gonna
keep
hearing
animal
care
and
it's
not
the
panacea,
but
it
did
have
a
big
effect.
You
know
we
have
contracts
with
angel
Memorial
Hospital
for
those
animals
that
are
beyond
the
capability
of
our
veterinary
and
staff,
and
so
that
there
are
contracts
like
that
that
we
deal
with.
We
have
carcass
removal,
which
is
again
another
outside
service.
We
had
outside
custodial
care
for
the
shelter,
so
there
are
number
things
but
we'll
get
back
to
you
with
actual
breakdown
of
that
line.
Item
very.
C
E
Councillor
Zakim
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
Commissioner,
good,
to
see
you
when
you
touched
on
this
a
little
bit
on
the
other,
short-term
rental
issue
and
I
also
was
pleased
not
completely
pleased
but
reasonably
pleased
with
the
the
court
decision.
It
seems
like
there
is
an
avenue
there
for
us,
and
I
have
been
seeing
your
advertising
campaign
and
in
different
formats,
which
is
great
to
see.
Where
would
we
say
date
wise?
Is
there
a
deadline
now
for
people
who
are
operating
these
to
get
registered
with
ISDN?
When
do
we
think
we'll
be
in
a
position
more.
B
E
Those
those
fines
are
the
ones
the
type
that
can
be
attached
to
the
property.
Yes,
so
great,
well,
I
I
know
many
folks,
not
just
in
my
district
but
but
around
the
city
are
excited
to
hear
that
if
you
can-
and
this
may
be
more
question
for
corporation
counsel-
but
do
you
have
any
sense
of
what
impact
the
state
legislation
is?
Gonna
have
I
know
that
SLAR
Jack's
ation,
but
it
gives
us
some
more
authority.
Will
that
change?
How
we
operate
here
to.
B
Government
relationships
right
now
is
working
very
closely
with
with
the
State
House
on
their
ordinance.
They
are
scrutinizing
the
though
the
ordinance
proposed
by
the
state
in
our
current
organs
to
make
sure
that
there
are
no
conflicts
or
overlaps.
So,
yes,
corporation
accounts
will
be
able
to
give
us
a
much
better
definition
in
the
next
few
weeks
or
month.
I
guess
look.
B
E
Thank
you
very
much
and
then
my
other
questions.
The
topic
we've
been
talking
about,
counselor
fly,
tease,
work
done
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
work
on
the
sandwich.
Board,
ordinance
and
I
know
residents,
particularly
in
the
Back
Bay,
are
pleased
that
were
making
some
progress
on
enforcing
the
current
ordinance
on
finding
a
permanent
solution
there.
So
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
meet
with
those
folks
and
the
business
associations
and
and
do
that.
It's
a
consul's.
B
Echo,
I
just
have
to
say
that
you
know
it's
our
cooperative
relationship
that
allows
these
kinds
of
ordinances
really
to
be
put
into
place.
You've
been
diligent
on
it,
but
you've
been
understanding
and
patient
and
how
the
execution
takes
place
so
we're
you
know
from
the
mayor's
side,
we're
only
too
happy
to
be
able
to
cooperate
and
get
these
things
expedited
for
our
constituencies
right.
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman.
F
You,
mr.
chairman,
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today.
We
often
get
in
our
office
calls
from
residents
concerned
about
projects
that
are
underway
that
look
different
than
maybe
what
was
proposed
or
have
or
work
that
happens,
and
maybe
there's
no
permit
or
something
like
that.
How
often
does
whatsapp
often
does
or
what's
the
process
for
ISE
to
check
in
on
permits
that
have
been
pulled
to
ensure
that
the
work
is
appropriately
happening
upon.
B
Issuance
of
a
building
permit,
there
is
a
set
of
drawings
that
are
considered
the
record
drawings
they're
stamped
both
by
the
PDA
by
us
and
in
some
cases,
by
the
board
of
appeals
that
becomes
the
record
set
of
drawings
that
use
by
the
inspector
to
go
out
and
do
their
analysis
they're
doing
it
throughout
the
entire
project.
It
becomes
very
painful.
B
Sometimes
when
there
is
inconsistencies-
and
it
does
happen
because
residents
see
that
because
they've
seen
you
know
a
rendering
early
on
in
the
process-
and
you
know
whether
it's
in
their
minds
eye
or
there's
been
little
changes.
That's
when
it
gets
picked
up.
It's
not
above
us
to
stop
a
project
and
to
analyze
it.
We've
had
a
number
of
them
and
in
some
cases
we
people
have
had
to
remove
things
they'll
put
through
there.
But
we
don't
want
to
wait
to
the
end
of
that
console.
F
B
Barre
Street
has
been
in
our
office
quite
a
bit.
The
full
story
is
yes,
they
were
given
a
permit
to
do
a
partial
demolition
and
in
addition,
we
got
a
report
that
they've
got
a
little
zealous
with
the
demolition
and
they
demolished
the
entire
building.
They
now
are
under
a
stop-work
order.
They
have
to
go
through
the
entire
process.
Again,
they've
been
required
to
maintain
a
safe
and
fenced-in
site
and
they
will
not
get
their
permit
back
until
they
have
gone
through.
B
They
have
to
go
through
a
landmarks
decision,
they're
going
to
have
to
go
through
a
new
community
process,
because
this
is
an
alt
now
I
mean
it's
an
ERT
and
erection
rather
than
an
alteration,
so
they're
they're
kind
of
dead
in
the
water
right
now.
Those
are
the
worst
projects
in
the
world
to
me
because
had
they
come
with
us
and
work
with
us
during
the
process
we
could
have
supplemented.
All
of
these
issues
is.
F
B
As
you're,
where
ist
is
not
so
much
about
monetary
fines,
except
on
some
very
specific
ordinances
and
things
go
from
the
building
code,
point
of
view,
what
we
do
is
we
issue
violations
that
call
for
correction,
and
you
know
making
it
right
before
we
go
to
financials.
The
financial
pieces
would
come
in
as
if
we
end
up,
in
course,
then
there
are
fines
that
would
be
associated,
but
they're
usually
attributed
by
a
judge
as
to
what
the
what
the
merits
of
that
should
be.
G
You
mr.
chair
come
on
morning,
buddy
and
Tricia.
Indeed,
thanks
for
coming
out
and
your
staff,
that's
in
need
the
stands,
but
you
talked
about
how
you're,
managing
through
everything
that
counsel
priority
I
talked
up
the
plastic
bags
or
rental
registration.
What
do
you
say
with
strong
management
and
data
collection?
Yes,.
G
B
Hard
to
say,
I
find
things
like
with
the
plastic
bag
ordinance.
The
demands
on
us
were
not
as
great
because
the
campaign
both
by
you
know,
members
of
the
council,
as
well
as
the
rest
of
the
city,
was
very
good.
People
are
very
receptive
to
it,
so
you
know,
since
since
we've
done
that
it's
July
that
the
full
ordinance
goes
in
there
will
be
no
more
exemptions
after
that
we've.
In
that
case,
we've
issued
187
one-year
extensions,
be
to
prove
yeah
based
on
a
financial
plastic.
B
B
The
intention
is
never
been
to
do.
That's
never
been
the
intention
to
hurt
the
consumer
yeah
most
of
the
businesses
that
we've
dealt
with.
They
get
it
yeah
and
we're
not
the
only
town
in
the
state
anymore.
So
it's
it's
really
become
pretty
much.
You
know
unilateral
across
the
board
a
lot
of
times
with
responses.
We're
getting
is
ignorance
of
the
law?
No
we're
working
on
it.
We've
I.
G
G
B
B
New
hires
they
were
and
that
they
were
in
the
hiring
process
right
now,
but
it's
it's
the
kind
of
thing
that
we're
not
trying
to
be
reactive
with
that
we've.
You
know
we
worked
very
closely
with
the
council
when
the
ordinance
was
written
so
that
the
expectations
on
everybody
spot
were
the
same,
and
we
feel
you
know,
being
you
know,
reactive
with
mailing
finds.
Quite
honestly,
it's
going
to
be
a
much
better
way
to
manage
it's
less
labor-intensive
on
the
city
and
I
think
the
results
will
get
will
be
quite
good,
so.
B
B
Wouldn't
ten
and
eight
sixteen
but
reactive
inspections
are
it's
a
noticeable
drop
in?
What's
going
on
so
the
theories
and
things
that
we
put
into
place
in
the
past
two
or
three
years,
I
have
really
proven
themselves
to
work,
and
the
rental
registry
has
had
very
pleasant.
You
know
unexpected
results
could.
G
B
G
B
B
B
We've
hired
some,
but
you
know:
we've
had
no
normal
attrition
in
the
department
yeah.
We
have
two
new
plans:
examiner's
that
have
it
added
to
the
groups
that
seems
to
be
working
out
working
very
closely
with
you
know
again
how
things
are
processed
at
ISD
I
mean
literally
how
the
paper
is
handled
and
we've
got
a
much
bit
of
better
and
more
aggressive
business
model
mm-hmm
and
we're
seeing
results
of
that.
G
B
Very
bad,
very,
very
close
to
that
we
are.
We
have
a
electronic,
an
e
planned
system
that
we've
had
in
place
with
two
or
three
years,
and
we've
learned
an
awful
lot
from
it
on
how
to
do
it.
How
to
work?
Are
we
using
it?
Yes,
we're
using
it,
but
it's
all
accounted
for
about
ten
percent
of
our
submissions.
We
are
currently
right
now
in
the
final
stages
of
bidding,
for
a
more
aggressive
EPLAN
system
that
we're
hoping
within
the
next
two
to
three
months,
we'll
be
up
and
operational.
B
We
plan
to
run
that
program
for
six
months
totally
within
ISD,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we
understand
it
we
manager
properly.
It
does
what
we
expect
it
to
at
that
point.
We
hope
to
broaden
it
out
so
that
it'll
go
out
to
field
inspectors,
we'll
go
to
the
BP
da
it'll,
go
to
the
Zoning
Board,
oh
yea,.
B
H
Good
afternoon,
commissioner,
and
to
your
team,
thank
you
specifically
Coleen
Kennedy
Keith
Barry,
McAra,
Brookins,
Claudia,
Correa
and
Brian
Ronan,
among
so
many
others
who
do
a
great
work
and
we're
glad
to
partner
with
each
and
every
day.
Well,
I!
Guess
we'll
start
right
up
on
the
plastic
bag
ordinance.
Commissioner,
it
was
I
think,
as
you
alluded
to
in
your
remarks,
a
really
strong
opening.
There
was
some
great
outreach
by
many
interested
parties.
H
I
can
tell
you
that
my
team
and
I
gave
out
about
7,000
reusable
bags,
leading
up
to
it
and
I
think
it's
been
as
well
received
as
we
could
have
expected.
So
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
phased
approach
where
we
are
in
that
I
think
you
mentioned,
there
were
two
finds
that
have
been
issued
so
far,
so
yeah.
B
As
you
know,
counsel,
you
probably
know
better
than
anyone.
It
has
been
a
very
successful
program.
We
stepped
into
it
very
slowly,
so
that
you
know
people
could
acclimate
into
it.
One
was
just
purely
an
educational
piece
of
letting
people
know
you
gotta
start
carrying
your
bags
with
you.
We
started
with
the
larger
box.
Type
stores
worked
our
way
down
to
the
10,000
square
foot,
and
then
you
know
again,
as
of
July
it'll,
be
in
effect
across
the
entire
city.
During
that
period
we
did
issue
a
number
of
relief
to
stores
that
had
purchased.
B
A
number
of
bags
was
never
our
intention.
All
yours,
yeah
financially
hurt
anyone
some
of
the
sylia
things
we're
finding
is
you
know,
are
they
posting
that
the
bag
cost
a
minimum
of
five
cents?
And
we
are
getting
those
reports
that
some
people
are
charging
twenty
five
cents
for
a
plastic
bag
which
is
illegal?
B
Those
are
the
people
that
that
were
working
with
weights
and
measures
has
done
a
tremendous
job
there
in
the
stores,
anyway,
with
the
scales
with
the
scanners,
and
it's
just
another
messaging
technique
that
they're
able
to
use
to
pass
on
to
people.
So
it
hasn't
been.
You
know
a
burden
to
the
staff
to
execute
and
make
sense,
but
I
think
the
biggest
thing
about
it
is.
The
constituency
has
embraced
this
whole
heartedly.
We
don't
get
any
complaints
about
it.
B
We
get
complaints
about
a
questions
more
than
complaints
about
you
know:
do
they
have
the
right
to
charge
me
where's,
the
money
go.
What
are
they
doing
with
it?
And
those
are
all
things
that
are
easily
handled
by
you
know
all
the
inspectors
in
the
administrative
staff
and
I
see
so
I
think
you
know
at
this
point
we're
feeling
very
good
about
it
and
as
I
say
there's
you
know
two
violations
can.
H
B
Was
complaint
driven
and
one
was
based
on
some
health
inspections
that
were
going
on
and
we
were
in
the
store
we
just
picked
up
on
what
they
were
doing.
As
you
know,
the
health
people
do
do
they
look
at
procedures
and
policies
and
they
happen
to
notice
that
there
was
stacks
of
plastic
bags
everywhere
they
immediately
checked.
Did
they
receive
a
variance
for
that?
They
had
not
in.
I
H
B
We
granted
that
what
we
required
was
that
an
inspector
actually
got
to
see
the
bags
the
bags
had
to
be
on-site.
We
take
photographs
of
it,
we
don't
count
individual
bags,
but
we
do
photograph
the
stack
so
that
we
understand
what
it
is.
They're
very
clearly
instructed
they
cannot
replenish
them
and
if
they
do
that
well,
you
know
cause
us
to
remove
the
variance
that
we've
granted
to
them,
and
we
haven't
seen
this
a
single
case
of
that.
That's
great.
B
H
B
With
with
actual
pride
edu
was
a
project
that
took
us
about
three
years
to
work
out.
We
saw
a
number
of
other
states
and
cities
that
were
using
it.
Essentially,
the
goal
of
it
was
was
to
allow
units
that
buildings
that
could
support
another
unit
without
an
outside
expansion
at
all
to
include
a
new
additional
and
additional
dwelling
unit.
It
will
be
so
labeled
in
their
occupancy
permit,
because
part
of
the
requirement
is
that
it's
for
owner
occupants
only
you
get
to
keep
that
additional
Ottoman
see.
B
If
you
sell
the
property
to
another
owner
occupant,
if
you
don't
it
gets
removed,
we
had
a
one-year
or
18-month
eyelet
in
East
Boston.
She
make
a
plane
in
Mattapan
I
believe,
overall,
there
were
75
applicants
and
we
knew
it's
not
for
everybody,
and
we
didn't
expect
this
to
be
the
panacea
for
housing.
But
it
was
another
small
tool
that
worked.
We
have
successfully
issued
I
think
two
certificates
of
occupancy.
We
are
now
about
to
ask
the
Zoning
Board
to
change
the
zoning
so
that
this
program
goes
citywide.
B
We
have
seen
a
tremendous
request
from
people
in
Dorchester
and
in
Roxbury
the
added
a
little
bonus
to
it
was
we
got
an
awful
lot
of
illegal
units
exposed
and
again
the
tension.
The
intention
was
not
to
violate
those
people
but
to
work
with
them
to
get
those
units.
Legalized
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
success.
We've
tweaked
the
program
as
it
goes
forward,
but
I
feel
that's
just
another
small
tool
in
our
housing
needs
because
we're
able
to
maintain
the
quality
of
fabric
of
a
neighborhood.
H
B
H
B
You've
got
a
look
at
the
overall
numbers.
I
can
get
you
a
slide
deck
that
gives
you
all
the
data
on
it
of
the
75.
There
were
a
number
of
them
that
did
not
qualify.
Okay,
you
know
there
was
some
like
East.
Boston
has
a
very
high
floodplain
and
a
lot
of
the
units
were
basement
okay,
and
so
they
weren't
eligible
to
do
it.
Some
of
them
were
not
owner-occupants.
B
There
was
some
of
them
that
once
they
got
into
it,
the
financial
implications
was
too
great
for
them
to
absorb
Department
of
Neighborhood.
Development
does
have
a
grant
program
that
that
the
mayor
funded
much
deeper
this
year
to
give
to
sports
people
that
that
will
qualify,
for
it
is
a
combination
of
grants
and
zero
interest
mortgages.
So.
H
K
You
councillor
CMO
and
Commissioner,
and
thank
you
guys
for
your
team
as
well
as
those
folks
who
actually
can't
be
here
for
the
work
that
you
guys
do
big
department
when
it
comes
to
constituent
service
concerns,
so
really
appreciate.
You
also
appreciate
the
work
with
respect
to
some
of
the
ads
of
right
conversations.
Notifications,
the
signage
in
particular.
Thank
you
for
pushing
for
that
to
actually
happen,
quick
question
on
the
signage
for
those
projects
which
the
response
has
been
great.
How
do
we
enforce
that?
What's
the
what's,
the
response
been
to
that
it's.
B
A
cooperation
with
the
office
of
neighborhood
services
so
that,
when
the
signage
the
council
is
referring
to
is
now
when
you
request
a
variance
NISD
your
hands
at
an
18
by
24
inch
sign
that
has
to
be
placed
on
the
building
and
all
the
property
so
that
the
people
are
walking
by
you
get
to
see
it.
Ons
is
working
with
us
because
they
know
their
neighborhoods.
B
K
Know
the
response
has
been
great,
but
thank
you
again
for
pushing
for
that.
One
thing
that
came
up
in
the
context
of
OH&S
and
jerome
in
a
marijuana
hearing
was
notification
going
not
only
to
owners
a
record
of
property
with
respect
to
proposed
development
project
projects,
but
also
tenants
and
I
said.
Oh
we've
been
talking
about
that.
K
B
Only
thing
that
we
don't
keep
lists
of
tenants
or
renters,
but
what
we
are
doing
is
you
know,
through
more
public
notification,
we're
trying
to
get
the
word
out,
for
example,
like
those
signs
was,
was
one
attempt
to
start
getting
the
word
out
better.
It's
also
we're
now
starting
to
well.
If
we
haven't
started
we're
going
to
start
addressing
the
property,
you
know
if
we
have
a
specific
name
or
personal,
send
a
name
or
resident
so
that
you
know,
hopefully
the
cards
don't
just
get
discarded
that
people
are
not.
K
Continue
that
conversation
and
appreciate
your
push
with
respect
to
that
piece
too,
and
your
team,
we
have
been
doing
a
lot,
and
this
is
in
partnership
with
you
know.
It
started
the
conversation
with
counsel
with
Malley
pulling
counselor
Janey
with
respect
to
vacant
and
abandoned
properties,
both
commercial
and,
of
course,
residential,
much,
many
of
which
are
concentrated
in
either
Dorchester
Matapan
or
Roxbury.
K
B
B
The
the
legal
department
at
ISD
handles
about
a
thousand
cases
a
year
that
they
actively
pursue
into
court
foreclosures
is,
is
one
of
them
abandoned
Lawrence
is
one
of
them
again.
We
try
to
take
advantage
of
every
existing
ordinance
between
us
code
enforcement,
the
clean
sites,
Act
and
different
things
that
we
have.
We
are
trying
to
stay
on
top
of
it.
B
I
wouldn't
say
it's
one
of
the
most
successful
things
again,
because
the
hardest
part
is
to
find
out
who
is
responsible
when
things
end
up
in
land
court,
sometimes
as
a
person
assigned
us
as
the
lead
person
other
times
they're,
not
because
they're
trying
to
figure
it
out
in
foreclosure
cases,
it's
much
easier
for
us
when
a
banking
establishment
is
is
identified
as
having
you
know,
forced
a
foreclosure.
So
it's
it's
something
that
still
needs
a
lot
more
work.
Counseling,
I,
look.
K
Forward
to
continuing
that
conversation,
I
will
tell
you
some
folks.
Obviously
many
of
your
folks
live
in
in
the
district,
so
trying
to
find
some
short-term
solutions
to
whether
it's
cleanup
or
community
getting
involved,
while
respecting,
of
course,
ownership
rights
and
things
like
that.
But
no
one
wants
to
live
in
a
community
with
serve
blighted
property
or
having
to
chase
down
an
owner
for
a
year
10
or
15
years.
We
even
tried
on
our
own
to
maybe
you
wouldn't
condone
this
track
down
some
of
these
folks
when
we
discovered
one
owner
lived
in
JP.
K
Oh
you
know
hello.
We
will
have
questions
about
that
property
in
Dorchester
by
Dorchester
court.
So
any
way
we
can
work
in
partnership.
I
know
it's
really
hard
when
you
have
to
go
through
the
courts
as
well.
One
of
the
things
that
was
referenced
in
materials
we
get
is
the
percentage
of
cases
resolved
legal
cases
resolved
66
percent
in
2017,
ten
percent
or
less
or
definitely
less
in
the
last
several
years.
Is
it
just
because
of
that
backlog?
Oh
it's.
B
B
We
could
to
explain
to
them
the
importance
of
these
cases
we're
trying
at
ISD
to
look
at
cases
in
general
cases
that
we
think
are
either
more
egregious
are
those
cases
that
we
think
we
can
make
the
biggest
impact
on
we're
trying
to
focus
more
on
them,
but
it
is
profound
how
a
property
ends
up
in
court
at
a
certain
point.
It's
just.
It
turned
over
to
the
judges
and.
K
B
B
B
I
I
I
would
love
to
have
taken
advantage
of
it,
but
my
understanding
is
the
city
can't
both
permit
fornix
in
an
area
where
there
could
be
potential
flooding
and
eventually
have
to
remove.
So
that's
what
I've
been
telling
most
of
my
she
wins
in
East
Boston,
who
are
excited
about
it,
but
ultimately
couldn't
take
advantage.
Just
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
short-term
rental.
I
know
you
answered
a
lot
of
questions
about
that
and
I
heard
the
testimony
one
question
I
had
was
specifically
about
I.
I
B
I
B
B
I
B
I
B
I
B
It
doesn't
know
there
has
anybody
that
come
out.
The
agricultural
apartment
is
said
to
us
that
we
could
become
an
agent
for
dry
ice.
That
was
never
my
intention.
My
intention
was
that
this
should
be
the
acceptable
means
of
dealing
with
rodents
for
everyone.
It
shouldn't
be
licensed
individually
right
now
there
is
proprietary
license
that
was
issued
by
the
EPA
to
one
company.
They
have
opened
up
a
number
of
businesses
around
our
local
local
distributor
is
in
Rockland.
We
have
actually
looked
at
what
it
would
take
for
us
to
use
their
dry
ice.
B
We
would
lose
thirty
percent
of
the
dry
ice
in
transport,
not
to
mention
the
time
would
take
for
us
to
send
trucks
down
there.
It's
right
now.
It's
not
right,
but
I
do
have
people
from
my
staff
still
working
with
our
local
agricultural
department,
because
it's
something
that
we
think
is
needed
or
dare
I
say
silly
that
it
isn't
in
place,
because
you
know,
as
I've
said
a
hundred
times,
you
see
dry
ice
everywhere,
every
ice
cream
truck.
You
see,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
fancier
restaurants.
B
D
I
Know
we
weird
you,
you
know
what
it
looks
like
you
know
the
issues
that
we're
having
with
it
and
I.
Remember.
Last
year
we
are
talked
about
the
program
or
a
program
that
seems
to
be
under
and
your
Department
receivership
and
looking
at
how
possibly
a
problem
property
could
eventually
just
be
you
know,
with
help
with
the
AG's
office
we
put
into
receivership
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
can
give
me
an
update
on
this
loss,
tell
but
also
tell
us
a
little
bit
how
we
can
enhance
or
get
involved
in
this
receivership
program.
Loft.
B
Li
can
I
give
you
an
update,
I
know
that
we're
working
with
them,
because
it's
something
that's
so
painfully
obvious
to
everybody
who
lives
in
the
community
or
drives
through
the
community,
but
problem
properties
itself.
You
know
Falls
and
falls
on
the
Jerome
Smith.
He
has
done
some
pretty
amazing
things
to
focus
how
problem
properties
works
so
that
we
have
a
list
of
properties
that
were
actively
working
on.
B
If
you
know
we
have
four
violations
in
either
police
environmental
is
d,
coup
stick
and
some
other
one
I
think.
But
if
we
have
those
that
then
escalates
the
property
be
on
the
list
once
it's
on
the
list,
then,
as
you
know,
I've
explained
here
before
there
is
a
focus
group
of
people.
You
know
from
all
departments
in
the
city.
They
really
try
to
highlight
the
problem
deal
with
the
ownership,
and
we
have
sad
successes
with
it.
B
I
B
The
harbor,
the
law
does
allow
us
to
brought
up
to
8
feet.
So
that's
the
first
story.
We
do
deal
with
fire
escapes
or
open
stairs
and
things
like
that.
The
problem
with
it
is,
we
have
no
budget
for
that
and
what
we
do
now
is.
We
will
consult
and
hire
an
outside
company
to
board
up.
We
pay
the
bill,
and
then
we
can
put
a
lien
against
the
property
to
encumber
their
title.
A
L
Thank
you
console
Co
Co
moment
Thank
You,
Commissioner
Christopher
in
your
team
for
being
very
responsive
and
very
professional
as
well,
commissioner,
the
the
short-term
rental
ordinance
that
will
be
in
effect,
I
may
have
missed.
Some
of
this.
I
was
always
I
got
here
late,
but
what
is
the
planning
planning
of
staff
level,
and
will
there
be
a
specific
unit
dedicated
to
enforcement?
He
an
inspection
of
Airbnb,
yes,.
B
B
Do
it
who's
supplying
us
a
lot
of
the
data
as
we
go
forward,
the
that
group
will
live
in
our
housing
division
and
as
it
seemed
to
make
most
sense
to
us
to
live
there
and,
as
I
said
earlier,
that
it's
going
to
be
primarily
data-driven,
so
that
it's
you
know
the
follow-ups
are
not
going
to
be
as
Extreme
as
like
in
the
rental
registry,
we
have
to
visit
E,
you
know
each
apartment
once
in
every
five
years.
This
is
going
to
be
more
based
on
the
data.
B
L
Thank
You,
commissioner
and
I
know
we
have
talked
about
after
our
construction
many
times.
I
know
you,
you
are
doing
the
you
can
audit,
but
do
we
have
enough
inspectors,
especially
on
the
weekends
we
have
so
much
construction
going
on
in
the
city
in
just
thinking
you
know
what
is
our
staffing
levels
for
weekend
work
when
a
lot
of
these
companies
are
trying
to
try
to
get
some
of
this
work
done,
because
they
probably
feel
that
there's
not
enough
inspectors
in
the
city.
Well,.
B
B
We
have
an
on-call
manager
who
disseminates
first
tries
to
triage
the
complaint
as
it
comes
in
to
ISD
and
determine
whether
we
need
to
actually
put
an
inspector
out
there
or
if
it's
an
administrative
function
to
make
that
happen.
All
of
senior
staff
is
on
call
24
hours
so
that
if
we
need
additional
persons,
I
find
right
now,
like
the
South
End
Southie
parts
of
Roxbury
East
Boston.
B
The
primary
areas
that
we're
getting
calls
in
are
expected
to
seem
to
be
handling
it
there,
they're
working,
you
know
a
lot
of
hours
to
catch
up
on
that,
but
you
you
have
to
understand
is
that
the
process
we
have
is
very
simple.
We
get
a
call
I,
as
you
know,
and
you've
called
me,
and
we
have
an
inspector
right
out
there.
They
go
out.
The
first
order
of
action
is
to
take
the
building
permit,
take
it
off
the
wall.
You've
now
got
to
come
into
ISD
to
reactivate
that
permit.
B
In
very
few
cases,
there
is
the
ability
to
bring
the
police
if
the
construction
companies
give
us
a
hard
time
which
we've
well
my
time
in
this
position
we
haven't
had
to
have
that
happen
in
people
seem
to
stay
on
top
of
it.
You
know,
I've
got
a
policy
in
place
that
if
it
happens
three
times
I'm
taking
the
building
permit
in
revoking
it
to
require
you
to
start
from
day
one
in
your
processing,
and
we
haven't
had
to
do
that.
But
I
think
that,
right
now,
it's
being
managed
it's
on
control.
B
The
majority
of
the
complaints
I
still
get
are
some
larger
projects
that
have
some
critical
parts
of
construction.
That
cannot
stop
sometimes
just
purely
to
the
physics
of
what's
going
on,
and
you
know,
I
try
to
get
as
much
notice
as
I
can
out
to
people
about
what's
happening
in
the
event
of
a
failure
or
something
a
life
safety
issue
in
the
building
I'm,
not
calling
anybody
I'm
letting
them
work.
We
will
make
sure
that
ISD
staff
is
present
at
some
point
during
that
process
to
make
sure
it's
being
done
properly.
B
There
are
also
projects
that
I
feel
sometimes
allowing
them
to
work
on
a
weekend
is
safer,
the
erection
of
a
crane,
the
raising
of
tall.
You
know
window
panels
and
things
like
that.
There
was
less
vehicular
traffic.
There
was
less
pedestrian
traffic.
There
are
some
properties
that
I
would
prefer
to
have
work
at
night.
B
I
know
the
noise
is
always
an
issue
and
lights
are
an
issue,
but
when
you
have
areas
like
in
downtown
Boston
that
have
a
high
pedestrian
traffic,
some
of
these
processes
are
much
safer
when
they're
happening
when
there
are
less
people
around
they're,
usually
more
costly
to
the
contract.
When
we
do
that
as
well,
but
it's
a
delicate
balance.
Consolute
we're
trying
to
stay
on
top
of
it.
L
B
Can
it's
it's
not
just
Chinatown,
it's
the
entire
city,
but
we
have
had
some
focus
on
Chinatown
a
year
and
a
half
ago
the
collection
methods
for
the
trash
versus
the
recycler
versus,
in
addition
to
the
recycling,
was
more
to
fight.
After
a
collective
educational
program
between
ISD
and
Public
Works
block-by-block
was
the
name
of
the
program.
We
went
out
and
explained
how
to
deal
with
trash.
What
the
situation
is
with
it.
We
also
have
a
very
aggressive
program.
B
I
mean
I,
had
one
of
the
major
building
owners
in
Chinatown
in
my
office
this
morning
about
what
he's
gonna
do
and
what
he's
gonna
clean,
he's
been
very
responsive
to
us.
Ons
has
been
really
the
advocates
to
get
the
word
out
there
and
they
call
us
out
very
quickly.
Our
our
health
department,
you
know,
usually
goes
out
in
in
conjunction
with
the
fire
department,
with
rodent
control,
as
well
as
our
building
department,
to
make
sure
that
any
tool
that
we
have
to
you
know
push
the
owners
to
do
their
job.
B
B
We
have
on
our
own
done
over
750
bait
baiting
stations
throughout
the
city
that
includes
both
the
source
system
as
well
as
it
does
public
areas.
We
also
will
assist
in
cases
where
you
have
an
absentee.
Landlord
are
one
of
our
problem:
property
landlords
and
the
residents
aren't
getting
any
results.
Our
teams
will
go
out
and
explain.
You
know
what
the
residents
should
do
and
we
assist
them
sometimes
in
baiting,
on
their
sites
as
well.
Yeah.
L
B
A
B
It
was
motion
to
or
section
nine
one
four
point,
ten
B
and
that's
the
exclusion
that
I
have
all
of
this
here.
If
you
would
like
counselor
its
the
enforcement
by
the
city
and
it's
just
a
three
paragraph
section,
but
essentially
what
it
says
is
that
we
originally
were
going
to
find
booking
agents
for
doing
that,
and
that's
the
one
provision
that
a
temporary
injunction
has
been
put
into
place.
It's
not
permanent
as
yet,
but
you
know,
as
the
mayor
said
publicly
and
ever'where
times,
we're
proceeding
with
this
program,
and
you
know
now.
B
A
B
That's
in
and
I
love
being
able
to
quote
paragraph
in
section
nine
fourteen
point:
eleven
data
share
and
they
are
required
to
give
us
the
locations
and
the
number
of
nights
it's
retro
actively.
So
it's
once
a
month.
They
have
to
submit
this
data
to
us.
That
injunction
was
denied
by
the
judge.
So
that
means
that
we
can
can
do.
They
are
going
to
be
required
to
give
that
to
us.
So.
J
B
It's
it's
it's
all
in
here
now
and
I
again,
I
have
to
sit
with
legal
counsel
to
you
know
finite
exactly
what
what
these
words
mean
because
I'm,
not
a
lawyer,
but
the
words
the
way.
The
way
that
I
read
them
is
two
out
of
three
of
the
injunctions
we're
allowed.
One
of
them
was.
It
would
reverse
that
two
of
them
were
denied,
which
means
they're
not
going
to
get
the
injunction.
The
ordinance
will
stand
and
then
one.
G
G
B
G
G
B
G
G
B
G
B
B
G
G
B
G
G
B
Need
to
it
has
to
be
a
free-standing
unit.
The
the
real
allowance
that
we're
putting
into
place
is
the
fact
that
it's
got
to
be
a
livable
unit
as
our
definition,
and
not
everyone
who
applies
is
able
to
achieve
that.
The
thing
that
we
don't
want
is
we
don't
want
somebody
taking
a
basement
and
putting
a
bedroom
in
the
right-hand
corner.
I
have
a
living
room
in
the
left
hand
corner
and
have
a
room
in
the
middle
that
has
all
the
boilers
for
the
for
the
unit.
B
G
B
Window
is
is
a
room
a
window
and
I
forget
the
exact
dimension,
roughly
two
foot
by
three
feet
of
clear
area
that
you
can
pass
a
box
of
that
size
through
it's
got
to
be
from
every
sleeping
quarters
in
the
room.
We
call
it
an
emergency
escape
window,
but
it's
way
for
firefighters
to
assist
someone
in
getting
out
of
the
building
or
if
the
firefighter
has
to
enter
in
the
building
through
an
alternative
means
so
and
that's
required
on
units
that
are
not
sprinkled
on
all
floors,
except
for
the
first
floor
at
grade
level.
Yeah.
B
G
B
B
B
Pure
speculation
on
my
part,
but
that
the
foreclosures,
like
every
other
piece
of
property
in
the
city
of
Boston
right
now,
is
experiencing
tremendous
financial
growth.
So
we're
seeing
people
willing
to
invest
in
things
that
they
weren't
willing
to
invest
in
and
I
do
find
it
amazing
when
I
see
some
of
the
properties
that
we're
dealing
with
that
people
are
not
taking
advantage
of
them
and
their
locations
are
everywhere
in
the
city.
So
it's
not.
G
B
Doing
anything
with
them
a
lot
of
times,
not
a
lot,
but
there's
a
fair
enough
that
there
are.
You
know
the
people
that
originally
owned.
It
is
passed
it
on
to
their
heirs
and
all
the
times
the
heirs
don't
know
about
it.
As
I
said,
we've
got
one
that
we're
working
on
right
now,
there's
125
direct
heirs
to
the
property.
You
know
clear
title:
we
had
one
property.
G
G
B
Don't
know
we
don't
know
the
last
reported
owner
was
1932,
oh
yeah,
you
know,
but
the
property
became
too.
It
came
to
where
to
us
by
the
field
inspector
noticing
some
concern
about
the
building
itself,
so
he's
escalating
it
up,
which
we
see
a
lot
more
of
our
inspectors,
doing,
which
is
great.
Thank.
I
Just
following
up
because
of
the
success
of
the
ad,
you
and
I
know
that
two
may
not
seem
like
a
big
deal
to
some
I.
Do
know
that
the
point
that
Pilate
is
to
actually
work
through
all
the
issues
that
would
prevent
the
pipeline
from
being
as
efficient
as
possible.
So
I'm
excited
to
see
it
expanded
and
to
to
know
that
there
is
an
efficient
like
pipeline
now
being
built,
because
you
heard
from
folks
and
you.
I
B
I
I
mean
there
was
a
wonderful
display
on
the
in
City
Hall
plaza
here,
I
recall,
I,
think
I
mean
when
we
went
out
there.
It
was
just
a
beautiful
to
see
it
was
like
$70,000
to
put
the
whole
thing
together
that
you
could
put
together,
possibly
in
an
afternoon
of
course,
the
hookups
and
whatnot
you
needed
still
to
have
the
plumber,
the
electrician
and
whatnot,
but
where's
the
city.
Well,.
B
The
housing
Innovation
Lab
is,
is
in
you
know,
works
with
us
very
closely.
We
work
very
closely
with
BPD
a
we
are
looking
at
everything.
You
know
we're
piloting
a
compact
living
unit
situation
now
that
you're
allowed
to
do
much
smaller
units,
and
if
you
do
certain
amenities
about
public
transportation,
you
get
certain
credits
for
parking,
so
you
can
actually
get
more
buildable
area
for
your
building.
We
have
I
think
there
were
two
projects
now
that
are
at
V
PDA,
that
are
being
really
analyzed
for
the
potential
of
that.
B
So
that's
one
possibility
during
the
Adu
process
we
did
get
a
lot
of
questions
about,
can
I
convert.
My
garage
can
I,
convert
my
carriage
house
and
for
the
pilot
we
said.
No,
it
doesn't
mean
that
it's
off
the
table.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
Adu
program
got
off
the
ground
properly
and,
yes,
it
was
a
whole
redefinition
of
the
pipeline.
B
I
B
B
You
know
we
will
do
well
in
this
checks.
If
people
want
us
to
come
in
any
time,
you
know,
there's
been
a
major
innovation
or
a
new
unit
built.
There
are
a
series
of
inspections
to
take
place.
Certificate
of
inspection
is
one
where
it's
combination
of
the
fire
department
and
ist
going
out
and
doing
all
the
life
safety
checks
to
make
sure
things
are
built
property
and
then
there's
a
certificate
of
occupancy
inspection,
which
is
very
parallel,
and
sometimes
they
can
be
one
in
the
same
inspection
other
times
they
cannot
smoke.
B
B
If
people
get
stuck
for
timing
on
their
inspection,
it's
all
too
often
counselor
I
get
somebody
that
calls
me
and
says:
I
have
a
closing
schedule
for
tomorrow.
I
need
my
inspection
today.
Did
you
file
for
your
inspection?
Well,
not
yes,
and
there
is
a
process
to
that.
We
do
everything
we
can
to
be
cooperative.
Sometimes,
though,
that
the
anticipation
of
their
closing
is
not
driving
us
to
get
the
inspection
done
over
life
safety
issues.
Okay,.
A
B
B
There
were
cases
and
I
was
the
one.
With
the
live
of
the
message.
We
were
telling
people,
you
cannot
go
back
to
your
apartment.
The
building
had
reached
a
point
of
compromise
that
I
was
not
comfortable,
letting
anybody
go
in
that
building
till
there
was
a
major
stabilization
program
done.
That
stabilization
is
done
now.
B
People
have
been
allowed
over
the
past
two
or
three
weeks
to
be
able
to
go
in
and
get
their
belongings
out.
The
building
is
not
habitable
as
yet,
because
there
is
a
number
of
structural
elements
that
have
to
be
restored.
They
are
working
through
that
right
now,
but
the
building
in
its
current
state
is
not
posing
a
public
threat
to
the
abutters
are
to
the
community
at
large.
But
I
will
not
let
people
live
in
that
building
until
the
next
phase
is
completed.
B
That
we
go
in
now.
If
you
go
look
at
that
building
you'll
see
there
are
temporary
calls
put
up
inside
and
outside
the
building.
There
are
small
steel
beams
that
are
cut
through
exterior
walls
to
displace
the
weight
off
the
existing
structural
system.
There
were
some
cranial
piles
that
had
to
be
placed
inside
the
foundation
to
support
that
building
now
what's
happening,
is
their
team
is
going
through
and
evaluate
each
structural
member?
There
are
some
members
there
were
some
that
were
very
obvious
from
the
outside
that'll
have
to
be
totally
replaced
in
some
cases.
B
These
are
not
members
that
you
can
just
go
to
your
friendly
neighborhood
steel
yard
by
sometimes
they'll
actually
have
to
be
fabricated,
so
there.
So.
The
first
point
is
to
get
the
building
safe
so
that
in
and
of
itself
it
is
not
a
hazards
of
the
community,
we're
not
afraid
of
it
falling
down,
we're
not
afraid
of
it
compromising
abutting
buildings.
Now
it's
a
matter
of
going
back
and
to
make
it
safe
so
that
people
can
move
back
in.
I
B
Been
forcing
requesting
a
timeline
I
never
like
to
give
timelines
on
these
types
of
things,
because
the
investigation
usually
tells
a
very
different
story.
There
were
some
dates
that
were
given
out
by
the
property
manager
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
meetings
that
I
refuted
right
away,
because
I
said,
I
have
no
idea
how
you
can
make
that
statement
yet
I
hope
to
have
in
the
next
week
their
analysis
of
what
they're
going
to
do
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
ascertain
a
much
better
schedule.
I
A
L
You
counsel,
Simone.
Thank
you
again,
Commissioner
for
taking
my
questions.
Commissioner.
I
get
a
lot
of
calls
in
the
south
and
a
lot
of
private
alleys.
As
you
know,
a
lot
of
construction
going
on.
But
what
do
you?
What
are
your
thoughts
about
our
concerns
as
we
as
we
do,
construction
in
the
south
and
including
the
private
alleys?
What
type
of
communication
are
we
having
with
the
developers
or
the
contractors
as
it
relates
to
water
and
sewer
issues,
making
sure
that
the
develop
as
a
contractor
is
know
exactly
where
the
sewer
lines
are
in?
L
B
It's
the
South
End
is
interesting.
You
know
one
of
our
older
communities.
You
know
we
do
have
a
dig
safe
program
that
everybody's
aware
of
in
that
handles
all
identification
of
public
utilities,
but
it's
on
the
public
ways,
the
area
that
we
get
involved
in
constantly
and
I've
been
involved
in
a
lot
of
the
discussions
about
drainage
of
private
alleys.
How
do
we
do
that?
One
person
wants
this.
B
You
know
put
up
the
money
to
say:
I'll
fix
the
drainage,
but
every
person
that
shares
that
public
alley
as
an
easement
has
the
right
to
say
yes
or
no.
It
becomes
a
delicate
compromise
because
everybody
has
the
same
rights
in
it.
Some
it's
important
to
small,
it's
important
to
some
sometimes,
and
it's
not
important
to
others
at
all.
So
it's
a
constant
discussion.
Usually
what
happens
is
once
we
locate
the
primary
points
of
access
for
utilities?
B
L
B
The
the
grading
system
goes
from
a
B
and
C.
We
do
not
issue
DS.
If
you
have
a
D
grade,
then
you're
not
prepared
to
open
URL
you
go
through
the
program.
You
would
go
out
to
our
inspections,
if
you
get
say,
for
example,
a
C
and
you're
not
happy
with
that.
C
you're
allowed
30
days
for
corrective
action
before
we
post
that
grade
to
our
database
and
thus
the
public
after
the
30
day
period,
if
you've
upgraded
to
say
a
B,
then
that
becomes
your
grade
for
the
year.
B
Your
point
now
you
can
pay
for
a
third
inspection
to
take
you
out
of
that
category,
to
promote,
to
an
a
I'm,
very
happy
to
say
that
the
vast
majority
of
all
the
restaurants
and
Boston
are
ace.
I
remind
people
that
this
has
to
do
with
the
sanitary
code
about
cleanliness.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
restaurant,
the
type
of
food,
the
cost.
None
of
those
things
is
purely
the
sanitary
code.
B
The
health
department
is
tremendous
at
staying
with
restaurants
to
work
them
through
what
the
situation
is,
because
everybody
we
would
hope,
would
have
an
a
because
that's
a
much
better
reflection
of
the
restaurant
and
it's
much
better.
A
representation
of
the
fabric
of
our
our
restaurants
throughout
the
city
and
I
can
say
right
now,
I
think
it's
a
very
good
program.
It's
a
way
to
publicly
educate
people
instantly.
We've
always
had
the
mayor's
food
court,
which
I
always
found
very
difficult
to
read
on
to
even
understand.
B
L
Thank
you,
commissioner,
and
I
I
appreciate
those
comments.
The
the
health
and
safety,
a
critical-
and
you
know
your
department-
plays
a
key
role
in
that,
and
that's
that's
really
with
what
government
is
all
about
protecting
protecting
our
residents.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
you
when
you
staff
for
that
excellent
majority.
B
D
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
and
good
afternoon,
everyone
great
to
see
you
thank
you
for
what
you
do.
I
know,
you're
in
the
midst
of
implementing,
so
many
different
initiatives
right
now
there
so
there's
a
lot
on
your
plate.
I
have
two
buckets
of
questions
that
I
think
are
pretty
different
and
that
I
wanted
to
ask
about
lead,
paint,
inspections
and
outs
kind
of
summer
outdoor
types
events,
so
I'll
get
through
as
much
as
I
can
and
in
my
time
and
then
maybe
go
to
second
round
so
on
LED
pain.
B
J
Automatically
to
the
Boston
Public
Health
Commission.
They
then
have
that
inspector
to
do
felt
for
that
inspection.
Our
housing
division,
the
inspectors
there
help
terminators,
so
they
could
do
an
initial
led
inspection
and
then
transferred
to
the
Public
Health
Commission.
However,
when
there
is
a
child,
then
it's
been
that
poisoned.
We
do
not
do
those
inspections
at
all,
so.
D
B
J
B
Just
want
to
add
to
that
you
know,
is
T's
relationship
with
the
problem
of
public
health,
not
only
led
paint,
but
mold
and
and
other
issues
that
are
more,
you
know
require
a
lot
more
technical
chemical
analysis
to
do
things.
We
have
a
tremendous
relationship
that
we
understand
when
it's
our
point
to
stop
and
when
is
that
point
to
pick
up
but
more
importantly,
we
know
how
to
communicate
with
each
other.
So
if
we're
in
any
gray
areas,
we
will
both
show
up
on
the
site.
D
But
when
the,
if
we're
talking
about
kind
of
standards
for
children,
young
children,
it's
if
something
happens
on
the
at
the
doctor's
office
when
they
realize
there's
lead
poisoning
it
it'll
go
directly
to
the
health
department.
Okay,
understand.
Thank
you.
I've
just
been
learning
a
lot
about
how
Massachusetts
standards
are
actually
much
higher
than.
A
D
Exactly
and
and
there
and
what's
recommended
nationally,
so
we
don't
intervene
or
trigger
those
inspections
until
the
poisoning
is
at
a
level
that
is
much
higher
than
than
what
it's
supposed
to
be
anyway,
so
a
second
bucket
around
cookouts
block
parties
etc.
So
what
is
the
process
as
people
just
on
the
scale
of
just
like
a
neighborhood,
shutting
down
a
street
to
something
bigger.
B
You
have
a
you
know,
barbecue
in
your
house.
We
tell
you
to
be
very
careful
of
the
barbecue
itself
because
of
the
fire
thing.
If
it's
on
your
property
and
it's
within
you
know
your
house,
that's
pretty
much
up
to
you
as
long
as
you
don't
create
a
noise
nuisance
or
Public
Safety
nuisance.
When
you
have
a
public
party,
that's
over
50
occupants,
you
have
to
get
a
temporary
occupancy
permit
to
go
forward.
If
you're
supplying
food,
then
we
do
require
an
inspection.
B
I
think
that
a
good
example
is
like
you
know
the
taste
of
every
community
and
things
we
have
worked
with
them
so
that
the
the
permits
have
been
worked
out.
It
used
to
be
that
every
vendor
had
to
pay
a
permit
fee,
and
we
didn't
agree
with
that.
So
each
event
pays
a
permit
fee.
Each
vendor
does
have
to
supply
us
with
their
source
of
their
food,
and
so
it's
it
goes
down
to
like
a
$60
permit
for
the
fee.
B
D
B
If
they're
gonna
be
out
again,
if,
if
they're
supplying
food,
we
really
would
like
to
understand
it,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
those
that
are
part
like
that.
You
know
I'll
come
over
to
your
house
and
eat
what
you
put
out
in
front.
If
you're
gonna
close
the
street
there
is,
you
know
you
have
to
get
involved
with
Public
Works
so
that
you
can
get
that
closure
and
also
have
to
talk
to
the
local
fire
and
police
so
that
they
make
sure
they
understand
that
Street
is
no
longer
accessible
to
it.
B
But
we're
really
concerned
about
groups
of
50
or
more.
That's.
We
get
really
concerned.
If
you
use,
you
know
like
some
of
the
food
trucks
that
have
been
certified
by
us,
we're,
okay
with
it.
If
you
use
packaged
food,
that's
not
being
prepared
there,
we're!
Okay
with
that
sanitary
cold,
like
I,
say
just
recently,
went
through
some
major
major
changes
and
what
they're
defining.
A
D
My
last
question
was
around
training
for
these
types
of
events.
So,
if
there
are,
if
someone
is
planning
a
larger
event,
maybe
with
multiple
vendors
who
haven't
had
to
do
an
outside
stand
before,
does
the
department
ever
offer
like
you'll,
go
out
to
a
you
know
basement
of
some
community
room
and
do
a
training
for
vendors
who
are
interested
in
applying
to
do
that?
It's.
B
Kind
of
a
strange
one:
if
it's
truly
the
vent,
then
you've
got
to
go
to
the
events
committee
and
they
will
direct
you
as
to
you
know
what
approvals
you
need
to
to
make
things
happen.
As
you
know,
we
are
always
willing
to
go
out
and
talk
to
the
community
about
any
of
the
policies
with
ice-t.
We
don't
design
venues
for
people.
We
were
usually
much
better
that
you
come
to
us
with
what
it
is
you're
trying
to
do,
and
we
make
you
make
that
work
for
you.