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Description
Dockets #0622-0628 Fiscal Year 2020 Budget: Boston Fire Department
A
Morning,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Mark
co-moh
I'm,
the
chairman
of
ways
and
means,
and
the
district
9
city
councilor
today's
Tuesday
May
21st.
We
are
here
with
our
good
friends
from
the
Boston
Fire
Department
as
part
of
our
fiscal
year,
20
budget
review
as
they
pertain
to
dockets
zero.
Six,
two:
two:
two:
zero
six:
two:
five
orders
for
the
FY
2008,
including
annual
appropriations
for
departmental
operations,
annual
appropriation
for
the
School
Department
appropriation
for
other
post-employment
benefits
and
appropriation
for
certain
transportation
and
public
realm
improvements
and
dockets
zero.
A
Six:
two:
six
through
zero,
six
to
eight
capital
budget
appropriation,
including
loan
orders
and
lease
purchase
agreements
like
to
remind
folks
this
is
a
public
hearing
being
broadcast,
live
and
recorded
on
Comcast
channel,
8
r,
CN,
82,
Verizon,
1964
and
streamed
at
Boston,
gov
backslash
city
council,
TV,
I'd
like
to
ask
everyone
in
the
chamber
to
silence
their
electronic
devices.
We
will
take
public
testimony
throughout
the
hearing.
A
We
ask
that
you
sign
in
their
sign-in
sheets
to
my
left
by
the
door.
We
ask
that
you
state
your
name
residents
any
affiliation
and
please
check
the
box.
Yes,
if
you
do
wish
to
testify,
there
are
several
ways
to
testify.
You
can
come
and
attend
a
public
hearing
like
this
one.
You
can
come
to
a
hearing
dedicated
to
public
testimony
on
Tuesday
June
4th
any
time
between
the
hours
of
2:00
to
6:00
p.m..
However,
we
will
stay
as
late
as
it
is
necessary
to
hear
from
everyone
who
would
like
to
speak
on
the
budget.
A
You
can
send
your
testimony
to
the
committee
on
ways
and
means
Boston
City
Council,
fifth,
floor
Boston,
City,
Hall,
Boston,
Mass,
zero,
two,
two
zero
one,
our
email,
the
committee
at
CCC,
WM
at
Boston,
gov
I,
have
letters
from
two
colleagues
who
are
not
able
to
attend
today's
hearing
and
I
will
read
them
into
the
record.
Thank
you
for
the
oversight
of
the
budgetary
process.
I
regret
that
I
am
unable
to
attend
the
Boston
Fire
Department
hearing
on
May
21st
2019
due
to
travel.
The
work
of
the
department
is
critical
and
I.
A
Look
forward
to
reviewing
this
tape.
Regards
Lydia,
Edwards
district
1,
Boston
city
councilor,
dear
mr.
Chia,
due
to
work-related
travel,
I
regret
that
I
am
unable
to
attend
today's
hearing
of
the
Committee
on
ways
and
means
on
docket
numbers:
0,
6,
2,
2,
2,
0,
6,
2
8,
the
FY
2008
for
the
city's
fire
department.
My
staff
will
be
in
attendance
and
I
look
forward
to
reviewing
the
recording
of
this
hearing.
Please
read
this
into
the
record:
sincerely
Kim
Janey
district,
seven
Boston
city
councilor.
A
In
order
of
their
arrival,
let
me
introduce
my
colleagues
to
my
far
left.
Councillor
draws
a
come
to
my
immediate
left,
counselor
ed
Flynn,
my
far
left
again
councillor
Tim
McCarthy
to
my
immediate
right
counsel,
Michael
Flaherty
back
to
my
far
left
counsel,
Frank
Baker
and
councillor
Matt
O'malley
next
to
him
and
to
my
far
right,
counselor
at
large
of
Annisa
sabe
George
I'd
like
to
welcome
the
commissioner
and
his
team.
A
B
I
would
also
like
to
thank
my
budget
team,
comprised
the
Deputy
Commissioner
administration
of
Finance,
Kathleen,
judge,
senior
budget
analyst
bills
are,
and
analysts
and
donÃts
all
ready
for
the
hard
work
they
put
into
this
year's
budget
process.
I
like
to
thank
the
City
Council,
the
continued
support
of
the
boss,
the
fire
department
for
holding
this
hearing
on
the
FY
2008
fire
department
budget
I'd,
also
like
to
thank
local
7:18
president
/
TT
and
president
sorrow
for
their
cooperation,
support,
FY
20
we
important
year
for
us
on
several
fronts.
B
First,
the
safety,
health
and
wellness
of
all
firefighters
made.
My
primary
focus
focus
ranges
from
purchasing
new
apparatus,
cleaning,
renovating
and
rebuilding
up
fire
houses
to
my
commitment
to
ensuring
the
safety
and
dignity
of
all
firefighters,
including
women
and
minorities,
especially
with
respectful
workplace
issues.
Since
2016
we've
replaced,
46
frontline
apparatus
and
FY
20
will
receive
three
more
engines.
Five
more
ladders,
which
will
leave
us
with
four
remaining
apparatus,
will
need
to
be
replaced.
We
also
be
pledged
to
about
two
two
tower
units
this
past
year.
B
In
addition,
as
a
result
of
new
apparatus,
we
have
been
able
to
revitalize
our
reserve
fleet
for
the
placement
of
fire
houses.
The
final
construction
design
documents
are
ready
to
go
out
to
bid
for
engine
242
and
rescue
two
and
Egleston
square.
We
hope
to
move
them
to
their
new
temporary
site
this
summer
and
begin
construction
in
the
fall.
Tentative
schedule
highlights
completion
in
2021
we
also
completed
renovations
in
engine
five
in
East
Boston
and
a
near
completion
of
renovations
of
engine
50
in
Charlestown.
B
We
will
continue
to
make
progress
on
the
mission
to
find
ways
to
improve
the
overall
health
and
wellness
of
the
members.
We
have
successfully
industrial
clean.
Four
of
our
five
hours
engine
1621
37
a
done
engine
5,
was
industrial
clean
as
part
of
the
renovations
recent
reservations.
We
have
been
very
happy
with
the
results
and
will
continue
the
cleaning
project
with
another
three
to
four
five
houses.
Currently,
engine
for
industrial
cleaning
is
underway
engine
eight.
His
plan
for
July
in
engine
53
is
slated
for
industrial
cleaning
in
October.
B
Industrial
cleaning
continues
to
be
a
cornerstone
part
of
the
department's
initiatives
surrounding
the
safety,
health
and
wellness
about
firefighters.
The
average
age
of
our
firehouse
is
77
years
old
and
they've
been
to
an
awful
lot.
It's
even
more
critical.
Now,
in
light
of
car,
melts
adoption
natural
OSHA
standards
in
February
2018,
with
math
Massachusetts
becoming
an
OSHA
state.
The
fire
department
needs
to
focus
on
OSHA
compliance.
We
are
going
to
first
concentrate
on
the
OSHA
compliance
with
our
fleet
in
our
facilities.
We
also
continue
to
make
improvements
to
our
fire
houses
and
other
ways.
B
They'll
benefit
our
firefighters.
In
2018,
we
began
a
program
to
install
greater
privacy
partitions
in
the
bunk
rooms
of
each
firehouse,
as
they
are
industrial
clean.
This
consists
of
seven
foot
I
in
four
foot
thick
partitions
between
each
bunkie
area,
each
with
its
own
presiding
door
and
locking
mechanism.
We
have
to
afford
greater
privacy
for
each
firefighter.
Today
we
have
completed
this
work
at
the
following
fire
houses:
engine,
five,
twenty
twenty
to
twenty
eight
48
52,
21,
16
and
fifty
the
next
firehouse
is
to
have
this
privacy.
B
Petitions
install
will
begin
will
be
engines,
companies,
8,
49
and
53.
In
our
facilities
improvement
plans
we
prioritize
those
fires
will
firmly
assigned
female
firefighters
regarding
our
training.
The
continued
sustained
our
training
hours
at
around
28,000
hours
per
year.
Up
from
approximately
8,000
hours
back
in
2013,
we
will
start
to
use
the
new
wind
driven
heat
simulator
at
the
training
academy
in
the
summer,
we're
planning
another
recruit
class
in
the
fall
and
I
mean
committed
to
working
with
the
human
resource
department
and
its
civil
service
unit
to
identify
diverse
skin.
B
It's
the
last
class
hired
this
past
January
yield
at
a
class
that
was
37
percent
minority
recruits
through
the
hiring
from
the
regular
civil
service
list,
as
well
as
utilizing
selective
language
certifications.
This
class
is
the
most
diverse
class
since
the
consent
decree
was
lifted
in
2003
a
particular
note.
This
class
includes
the
first
asian-american
female
firefighter
ever
hired
by
the
department,
as
well
as
its
first
Vietnamese
American
firefighter
the
prior
recruit
class
in
February
2018
reflected
a
28
percent
minority
makeup,
the
second
most
diverse
class
since
2003.
B
It
was
also
attained
through
the
hiring
from
both
the
civil
service
list
and
Selective
language
certifications.
These
efforts
show
that
incremental
improvements,
the
progress
Department
is
making
in
diversifying
its
recruit
classes.
Utilizing
tools
and
Avenue
is
currently
available
under
the
civil
service
hiring
rules.
In
addition,
the
diversity
recruitment
officer,
Juan
Sanchez,
continues
to
identify
interventions
and
schools,
military
recruitment
officers
and
other
young
youth
engagement
venues
to
get
to
a
diverse
population
before
they
enter
into
military
service.
We're
hopeful
that
they
will
be
able
to
attract
the
bursary
coats
after
a
return
from
active
military
service.
B
Youth
engagement,
recruitment
efforts
are
important
because
it
allows
the
department
to
share
information
with
the
city's
teenage
population
about
the
pursuing
a
fire
service
career
with
the
Boston
Fire
Department,
two
mentorship
career
counseling
and
on-the-job
training.
Some
of
the
programs
we
have
initiated
our
plan
include
the
following:
Boston
teen
Academy
summer
program
and
partnership
with
ABCD
for
Boston
city's
youth
between
the
ages
of
16
and
18,
get
an
inside
perspective
on
Fire
Academy.
B
The
Boston
Fire
Department's
community
enrichment
program
has
been
very
while
we
see
by
the
communities
the
community
enrichment
program,
sister
group,
a
dedicated
firefighters
who
coordinate
and
participate
in
a
basketball
program
with
the
kids
of
the
city's
community,
centers
and
teen
centers
to
this
community
enrichment
program.
The
fire
fighters
act
as
mentis
and
speak
with
the
youth
to
provide
career
guidance
and
civil
service
and
how
to
become
a
firefighter.
B
The
community
enrichment
program
hopes
to
expand
the
program,
engage
in
schools
and
teachers
to
be
part
of
our
youth
engagement
efforts
such
as
school
appearances
on
career
days,
our
firefighter
teacher
basketball
games,
students
and
our
youth.
Our
future
increased
engagement
with
them
through
basketball
or
any
other
sphere
is
a
win-win
situation
for
us
all.
We
continue
to
attend
community
meetings,
job
fairs
and
other
outreach
events
in
every
community
in
the
city
of
Boston.
We've
also
continued
to
focus
on
veteran
recruitment
and
veteran
outreach
to
help
identify
and
zero
in
on
the
demographic,
specific
recruitment
strategy.
B
The
recruit
military,
a
military
Koopman
partner
that
hosts
career
fairs,
with
a
focus
on
veterans
enabling
Department
to
tap
into
the
database
to
help
identify
qualified
veterans
for
our
recruitment
efforts,
hire
a
vet
which
specialized
in
career
fairs
and
employment,
opportunities
for
veterans,
Boston
area,
military
recruitment
stations
and
us
augmenta
program
since
becoming
commissioner.
Nearly
five
years
ago,
I
put
in
a
place
as
zero
tolerance
on
firefighter
behavior,
where
he
or
she
does
not
commit
to
our
code
of
conduct
and
I
conform
to
our
rules
and
regulations.
B
As
a
paramilitary
department,
we
must
commit
to
obeying
orders
that
our
time
ultimately
intended
to
protect
the
public,
but
also
firefighters,
I,
continue
to
work
on
the
recommendations
that
KRG
investigated
report,
provided
we
had
already
begun
some
of
these.
This
work
prior
to
the
report
and
will
continue
working
on
the
recommendations
outlined.
We've
conducted
a
number
of
HR
trainings.
B
Over
the
past
several
years,
we've
had
anti
harassment,
training
conducted
by
bio,
a
child
respectful
workplace
training
conducted
by
PFD,
HR
and
Fire
College
and
selected
firehouses
diversity,
implicit
bias
and
respectful
workplace
training
is
conducted
by
an
outside
vendor.
The
above
trainings
led
to
a
significant
training
session
on
this
topic
last
year
and
earlier
this
year
to
tailor
it
specifically
for
the
fire
service
leadership
case
studies,
respect
in
the
workplace,
which
focuses
on
the
role
the
fire
officer
plays
and
managing
human
resource
liability,
particularly
the
area
of
harassment
and
retaliation.
B
This
course
utilized
the
case
study
approach
to
teaching
this
topic
with
real-life
firehouse
scenarios
as
major
part
of
discussion
and
curriculum,
which
is
given
to
all
the
deputy
Chiefs
district,
Chiefs
captains
and
lieutenants.
These
topics
were
presented
to
all
offices
all
the
way
down
for
frontline
supervisors.
We
also
continued
additional
expect
for
workplace
training
with
our
recent
junior
officers.
B
Leadership
training
program
for
lieutenants
the
department
in
the
city
also
recently
issued
an
RFP
to
solicit
a
vendor
who
will
assist
in
developing
a
similar
training
program
for
all
line,
firefighters,
as
well
as
to
develop
models
for
future
and
sustained
trainings
going
forward
on
other
fronts.
The
pine
will
continue
to
work
on
the
following,
and
the
upcoming
months
speak
up.
These
rules
and
policies
I
run
undergoing
of
you
and
we
are
working
with
oli
in
the
Union
on
adopting
implementing
some
of
the
rule.
B
Changes
based
on
the
reports,
such
as
the
PFDs
in
Terris
control,
rule
1841
departments,
also
working
with
the
corporation
councils
office
to
hire
an
attorney,
but
will
spearhead
the
anti
harassment
and
respectful
workplace
training
for
the
entire
department
and
will
assist
in
internal
investigations.
The
job
duties
of
the
diversity
of
Akutan
officer
and
the
female
later
on
will
continue
to
be
monitored
by
the
new
HR
director
under
the
direction
of
the
Deputy
Commissioner
of
Labor
human
resource
and
legal
affairs.
B
Appointing
one
female
lays
on
appointed
only
a
year
ago
continues
build
strong
relationships
with
all
female
firefighters.
The
fire
alarm
operates
one
of
the
department
advocating
for
better
uniforms
revising
the
firehouse
bathroom
policy
participating,
numerous
recruitment
outreach
events
in
leading
several
female
firefighters,
the
national
eye
women's
conference
sponsored
by
the
International
Association
of
Women
and
the
fire
and
emergency
services.
On
the
hiring
front.
We
continue
to
work
with
hid
and
MCAD
on
a
selective
language
and
gender
certifications,
as
well
as
our
outreach
and
recruitment
efforts
by
the
diversity
of
Akula
novice
on
I.
B
A
C
Chairman
morning,
commissioner
team
good
to
see
you
all
I'll
try
and
be
brief.
I
know
my
colleagues
have
many
questions,
but
I
do
someone
here
say
it's
very
encouraging
to
hear
that
report
to
see
the
written
documents
we
received
on
though
many
ways
you
are
all
working
to
make
and
to
continue
to
make
the
Boston
Fire
Department
the
best
Department.
It
can
be
to
protect
everyone
and
to
create
a
safe
and
welcoming
workplace
for
all
employees,
which
is
a
it's
really
a
great
to
hear
that
commitment.
So
thank
you
for
that.
C
I
want
to
touch
quickly
on
what
somewhat
of
a
neighborhood
issue,
but
it's
something
you
may
or
may
not
be
aware
of
us.
We
were
just
not
too
long
ago
on
Beacon
Street
in
Back
Bay,
for
a
memorial
to
two
courageous
firefighters
who
were
lost
in
2014
in
that
fire.
Since
then,
several
of
our
residents
who
attended
have
asked
me
to
talk
to
you
and
to
see
if
there
was
a
desire
and
how
the
neighborhood
can
help
increase
the
access
of
fire
hydrants
on
back
Street,
which
is
a
private
way.
C
It
seems
like
there
are
not
great
hydrants
I
know.
Hearing
about
some
of
the
folks
who
spoke
at
that
ceremony
talked
about
the
the
trouble
of
getting
the
hoses
around
in
that
incident
is
that's
something
you've
looked
at
that
we
could
be
helpful
with
that.
Perhaps
working
with
those
condo
associations,
because
it
is
a
private
way-
is
something
that's
useful
again.
I
don't
want
to
give
more
work
if
you
think
it's
adequate
now,
but
that's
something
we've
been
asked.
B
Thank
you.
That's
a
very
important
topic,
okay,
that
certainly
contributed
to
that
tragic
event.
Back
in
2014,
we
need
to
work
with
the
community
back
there.
Actually
Kathy
Cosby
Bell,
who
is
Michael
Kennedy's
mother,
has
been
a
strong
advocate
and
pursuing
the
installation
of
hydrants.
If
you
will
in
back
Street
as
well
as
us,
we
I
would
love
to
see
that
to
come
to
fruition,
not
only
for
the
firefighters
but
also
for
the
community.
It
provides
a
greater
degree
of
safety
for
us
on
those
Street
and
that
area
which
is
considered
back
Street.
B
C
B
C
Don't
want
to
get
into
the
weeds
on
that
today,
but,
let
me
just
say
I'm:
if
there's
someone
on
your
team,
who
would
be
the
best
person
to
coordinate
with,
please
I
would
like
to
talk
to
him
or
her
and
connect
them
with
the
residents
there
who
I
think
as
far
as
the
access
and
ability
to
do
work,
there
could
really
get
that
done,
and
then
we
get
into
the
who
maintains
and
how
we
how
we
pay
for
it
moving
forward.
That's
a
separate
issue,
but
to
get
at
least
get
to
the
threshold
matter
of.
C
Can
we
install
things
there
I
think
there's
a
real
effort
in
the
community
and
a
desire
for
that,
including
of
the
owners
of
those
properties?
Thank
you.
No
thank
you
and
then
we'll
continue.
Work
on
that
is,
you
know.
I
only
have
about
seven
months
left
in
this
seat,
so
I
would
love
to
have
some
good
progress
on
that.
For
my
successor
and
then
moving
on
to
another
topic,
what
you
touched
on
it's
at
cancer
prevention
for
the
men
and
women
of
the
fire
department.
C
There
was
a
great
flurry
of
installation
of
the
Industrial
washer
dryers
I
heard
you
talk
about
industrial
cleaning
of
the
firehouses
as
they're
being
renovated
repaired.
Where
are
we
on
on
the
installation
of
those
washer
dryers
is
most
of
that
still
coming
from
private
money
from
the
last
call
foundation,
or
is
there
more
of
that
in
our
in
our
budget
as
well?
So.
B
All
of
the
industrial
extractors,
the
washing
machines,
have
been
installed
directly
through
the
generosity
of
a
number
of
foundations,
one
being
in
the
last
call
foundation
in
the
second
one
being
the
Gary
Sinise
foundation.
So
all
the
industrial
extractors
have
been
installed.
We
are
now
installing
the
drying
cabinets
just
to
give
you
a
quick,
a
little
understanding
how
heavy
the
gear
is
once
you
wash
it,
it
takes
a
significant
amount
of
time
if
you're
gonna
try
to
eat
right
and
you
can't
really
dry
it
in
a
traditional
dryer.
B
So
they
have
these
drying
cabinets
which
the
Gary
Sinise
Foundation
is
on
board.
Twelve
for
all,
our
five
houses
with
the
drying
cabinets,
which
will
be
tremendous
I,
mean
changing
the
culture
around
importance
of
cleaning
the
back
again
and
making
sure
they're
getting
the
toxins.
Carcinogens
off
is
important,
so
we
don't
want
to
stand
in
the
way
of
that.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
that
happens,
and
so
we've
been
blessed
in
that
regard
with
those
two
foundations
who
made
it
happen.
That's.
D
Thank
You
mr.
chairman,
and
thank
you
to
Commissioner
and
your
team
for
being
here
today,
but
also,
more
importantly,
for
your
professional
work
for
our
city.
For
for
many
years,
commissioner
I
know
you
highlighted
it
in
your
opening
comments.
Can
you
talk
about
the
program
that
you
implemented
the
industrial
cleaning
of
firehouses?
D
B
That's
your
cleaning
process
just
to
give
you
a
little
background.
The
average
age
about
firehouse
77
years
old
at
this
time,
so
they've
been
through
a
number
of
years
of
exposure
to
the
carcinogens
and
toxins
brought
back
from
the
fire
grounds
and
probably
the
most
important
piece
was
the
diesel
exhaust
diesel
exhaust,
which
one
of
the
byproducts
is
benzene.
B
Benzene
is
a
significant
cost
intogen
and
we
realized
that
you
know
the
cost
of
replacing
firehouses
is
very
expensive,
as
you
seen
in
the
capital
budget
and
renovating
is
an
expensive
proposition
also,
so
what
we're
doing
is
industrial
cleaning
is
basically
what
we're
doing
is
we're
going
in
we're
removing
the
fire
company,
so
we
can
win
and
we
strip
the
house.
Basically,
we
take
out
all
soft
and
permeable
materials
we
win.
We
industrial
clean.
We
then
paint
with
encapsulating
paint,
and
then
we
render
the
building
safe
and
then
we
bring
back
in.
B
We
do
some
environmental
testing.
Then
we
bring
back
in
new
furnishings
that
are
more
environmentally
friendly
that
are
not
going
to
maintain
a
retain
I
should
say
these
carcinogens,
so
the
process
is
ongoing
and
I'll
be
honest
via
Council.
We,
when
we
first
budgeted
and
thought
about
the
cost
and
around
it,
because
it's
it's
a
significant
undertaking,
and
it
was
nothing
really
to
compare
it
to.
We
were
the
first
major
city
in
the
country
to
start
this
industrial
cleaning
process
which
has
been
replicated
throughout
this
country,
and
it
was
about
trying
to
identify
a
cost.
B
So
we
had
seemingly
importunate
money
set
aside
last
year
to
do
what
we
were
hoping
to
get.
Maybe
four
houses
done
as
we
ran
into
the
age
of
the
houses.
As
you
can
imagine,
once
you
start
moving
things
around
use
that
does
paralyze
there's
a
lot
of
additional
thing
that
needs
to
be
fixed.
So,
instead
of
getting
four
houses
done,
we
were
probably
lucky
to
get
three
and
we're
moving
forward
with
additional
funds
that
to
do
the
remaining
real
houses.
B
D
Thank
You,
commissioner
I
had
the
opportunity
to
attend
the
retirement
dinner
several
weeks
ago
in
a
lot
of
the
retired
firefighters.
We're
talking
about
that
program
that
it's
one
of
the
best
programs
they've
ever
seen
the
fire
department
implement.
You
know
it's
saving,
it's
saving
lives
of
firefighters,
but
also
also
their
family,
of
bringing
all
that,
probably
before
you
bringing
all
that
toxic
stuff
back
to
you
back
to
your
own
house
and
into
your
own
body
and
having
a
major
impact
on
you
on
your
health
and
wellness.
D
B
We
were
fortunate
to
have
dr.
Kamla,
who
was
a
Chelsea
firefighter
she's,
a
board-certified
dermatologist
who
succumbed
to
a
melanoma,
and
she
approached
us
about
bringing
and
some
of
her
colleagues
to
skin.
To
actually
I
should
say
to
the
screening
the
entire
department
on
her
time
on
a
dime,
and
they
did
so.
We
did
it
all,
of
course,
a
few
weekends
we
had
at
least
800
members
go
through
the
screening
process
and
of
the
800-mile
10%
needed
referrals
in
two
more.
B
If
you
will
in
depth
screening
and
it's
a
tremendous
program,
I
mean
look
at
the
cancer
issues.
The
biggest
issue
facing
us.
Okay,
it's
the
biggest
issue,
I
mean
last
year.
In
the
course
of
two
weeks
we
lost
three
members
and
in
less
than
two
weeks
one
former
president
ad
Paris
I
mean
Ritchie
Paris's
brother
Eddie.
We
lost
Eddie,
we
live
streaming
Eliza
and
then
we
had
Ritchie
Steiner
some
kind
of
arrest
within
three
three.
Two
week
period,
we
had
three
active
members
succumb.
The
cancer
is
the
number
one
issue
make
no
mistake
about
it.
B
It's
the
number
one
issue
facing
the
fire
service
crisis
country.
Okay,
we've
lost
two
hundred
over
two
hundred
watts
and
fire
five
since
1992
occupational
cancer.
Since
two
thousand
twelve
two
thousand
seventeen
twenty
seven
members
have
succumbed
to
occupational
cancer.
I
currently
have
up
to
more
than
a
dozen
closer
to
sixteen
members
off
with
occupational
cancer.
B
It
is
consuming
the
department,
it's
the
biggest
issue,
I
face,
as
is
the
Commissioner
in
trying
to
first
off,
keep
the
morale
up
right
when
you
think
about
the
exposure
hazards
and
trying
to
implement
change
and
trying
to
best
practices.
It's
the
biggest
challenge
we
have
as
a
department.
I
will
tell
you.
We
are
tactically
sound
on
the
fire
ground
strategically
was
sound,
I
mean
we've
been
recognized
across
the
country,
and
the
cancer
issue
is
where
we
need.
B
A
primary
focus
needs
to
be
because
it's
impacting
a
significant
population
where
we're
getting
two
to
three
diagnoses.
A
week,
I
mean
every
two
to
three
weeks
to
get
a
new
diagnosis.
Prostrate
cancer
seems
to
be
the
food.
The
cancer
that
keeps
reoccurring
and
firefighters
are
more
likely
to
develop
a
prostrate
cancer
under
age
50
than
the
general
population
by
almost
20
percent.
So
it's
the
biggest
issues.
We
face
cancer
Thank.
D
Just
just
thinking
about
your
questions,
your
answers
question,
commissioner,
you
know
with
industrial
cleaning
and
with
with
the
cancer
high
cancer
rate.
You
know
you
see
a
lot
of
weeds
firefighters,
you
know,
unfortunately,
after
they
retire,
they
don't
they
don't
live
that
long.
You
know.
Certainly
a
lot
of
it
is
a
direct
result
of
the
hazardous
conditions.
D
B
You
can't
spit
some
tough
language
in
the
legislature.
It's
been
very
helpful
for
us,
so
there's
a
five
year
look-back.
So
when
you
retire,
you
have
a
five
year
window.
If
you
develop
an
occupational
cancer.
Okay,
it's
considered
accidental
disability
or
you
pursue
it
with
the
retirement
system,
which
is
very
helpful
for
us
as
far
as
tracking
data,
when
you
get
outside
that
five
year
window,
it's
very
difficult
for
us
to
actually
interact,
engage
members
who
develop
cancer
unless
they
bring
it
forward.
B
When
we
have
the
folks
that
are
in
that
five
year
window,
we
have
access
direct
access
to
information
and
we
engaged
the
individuals
if
they
develop
a
cancer
after
the
five
years.
It's
a
little
more
difficult
for
us
to
track
them.
Okay,
when
I,
when
I
talk
about
our
numbers,
there's
retirees
in
those
numbers-
okay
and-
and
we
looked
at
statistics
around
the
retirees-
so
what
we
did
was
talking
to
me
epidemiologist
and
statisticians
and
our
best
we
tracked
numbers
we
put
max
mages
we
time
in
65,
we
added
five
years
apart
us
age
70.
B
So
anyone
who
succumbed
to
an
Occupational
cancer
from
70
on
back
because
we
had
all
death
certificates
and
those
are
the
folks
in
the
numbers.
So
it's
a
little
more
difficult
with
those
who
are
outside
that
five-year
window.
Look
back
and
we
have
some
legislation
and
the
unions
been
working
diligently
on
it
and,
along
with
the
pfm
legislation,
to
bring
I'll
give
you
an
example.
B
If
you
retired
at
age,
50
from
a
non
related
cancer
presumptive
language,
say
you
went
off
when
I
get
back
neck,
much
Tuscola
injury
at
age,
50
at
age,
55
in
a
day,
okay,
but
that
doesn't
exclude
the
fact
that
you've
been
exposed
to
all
these
chemicals
and
carcinogens
for
the
25-year
career
before
that
in
those
chemicals
and
carcinogens,
laying
dormant
somewhere
in
your
body
so
they're
out.
So
we're
looking
to
and
the
union's
been
very
active
on.
This
is
pushed
legislation
that
would
get
everybody
eight.
B
Seventy,
regardless
of
when
they
retired
I,
think
that'd
be
a
very
important
step
going
forward
and
trying
to
track
the
retirees
that
might
slip
through
the
cracks
nationally.
Probably
the
only
thing
that
they've
agreed
upon
down
in
DC
in
the
last
two
years
was
the
National
firefighters
cancer
registry.
We
had
a
meeting
yesterday
with
NIOSH
who
were
gonna
be
implementing
that
registry.
B
Those
are
the
main
culprits
of
what's
going
on
and
why
firefighters,
attracting
these
cancers,
I
there's
a
great
video.
Well
and
it
covers
all
look
at
it.
I'll
tell
you.
We
have
a
website.
Take
no
smoke
dog,
there's
a
video
on
that
on
that
website
by
you.
Well,
it's
quite
it's
it's
done
by
the
Rossoneri
point
and
it
talks
about
how
much
more
dangerous
fires
out
today
they
were
30
years
ago.
Fire
reaches
full
room
involvement
which
is
flash
over
to
us
in
under
three
minutes
today,
thirty
years
ago,
with
legacy
furnitures.
B
A
E
Sharing
staff
and
now
all
the
men
and
women
at
Boston,
Fire
Department,
who
keep
us
protected
every
day
councils
a
coma
consul,
Flynn
kind
of
went
down.
The
road
I
was
gonna,
go
down
to
so
we're
not
gonna
rehash
that,
but
I
do
have
a
quick
question
we
had
hearing
about
18
months
ago
or
so
about
the
flame
retardant
chemicals
nationally.
Can
you
kind
of
give
us
an
overview
of
where
that
is
and
how
we
can
continue
to
help
push
that
yeah.
B
So
the
flame
Etan
industry
is,
you
can
imagine
it's
very
powerful.
Lobbyist
I
mean
they
have
very
powerful
block,
and
it's
funny
they
when
you
think
about
flaming
times.
Let
me
just
to
make
it
as
elementary
as
you
can.
What
a
flama
ties
and
that's
what
chemicals
that
are
designed
to
inhibit
flame
strength,
but
yet,
when
they
combust,
you
have
nothing,
but
all
these
polymers
given
off
all
these
toxic
byproducts.
B
So
we
were
close
in
a
state
this
past
in
the
governor,
because
I
give
the
governor
a
lot
of
credit
he's
been
very
supportive
of
legislation.
That's
going
up
around
the
Kansas
language
around
extending
some
timelines
and
dates,
but
it
was
vetoed
because
it
came
in
under
an
informal
session,
but
he
sort
of
came
to
that.
If
it
comes
to
the
formal
session
has
a
chance
to
mention
things.
You'd
be
willing
to
do
that
that
this
legislation
was
going
to
deal
with
flaming
towns
and
public
areas
of
public
assembly.
B
If
it
was
fully
sprinkled
that
they
would
not
need
these
flannery
times
introduced
into
these
products.
So
there's
a
counselor
there's
a
huge
lobbyist
group
around
the
chemical
industry
and
I
think
we're
becoming
the
victims
to
some
degree
because
of
the
assault
on
plastics.
The
plastic
industry
I
believe
they
believe
it's
an
assault.
I
mean
when
you
look
at
plastic
bags
and
things
like
that.
F
To
the
team
here
think
you're
doing
a
phenomenal
job
and
the
team
that
you've
assembled
under
your
leadership
has
been
great.
Honorable
mentions.
From
my
perspective,
that's
but
they've
been
super
responsive
to
the
City
Council.
Their
follow-through
has
been
second
to
none.
It
could
be
Friday
close,
a
business,
it
could
be
Sunday
mid-afternoon.
It
could
be
first
thing
Monday
morning
and
that's
Deputy
Fire
Chief
Jack,
Dempsey
and
assistant
chief
Dennis
Kelly
phenomenal.
They
make
the
job
that
you're
doing
in
the
team
shine
anytime.
F
They
just
jump
right
into
it
in
there
solving
problems
in
real-time,
which
is
phenomenal,
so
I
just
want
to
pass
along
kind
words
on,
on
the
on
behalf,
once
I
got
a
waterfront
station
I
know:
we've
had
this
discussion
before
they're
20
new
high-rise
buildings
that
haven't
been
there
had
weren't
there
ten
years
ago.
Yet
ws
development
has
an
additional
million
square
feet.
Now,
there's
a
proposal
for
a
couple
of
marinas
with
fuel
there's
to
talk
about
sea
planes.
That's
not
including
all
the
develop.
That's
happening
down
the
rayful
in
Marina
industrial
park.
F
You
know,
and
we
talked
about
response
times
with
clearly
K
Street
D
Street
more
than
capable
and
can
get
there
as
quickly
as
they
can
ask
in
surface
Road,
but
just
want
to
get
your
thoughts
on
whether
or
not
the
time
has
come,
as
our
city
continues
to
grow,
as
our
population
continues
to
grow
and
as
a
South,
Boston
waterfront
continues
to
expand.
I
think
that
we
need
to
have
a
very
frank
conversation
yesterday
about
having
fire
service
down
on
the
waterfront
yeah.
B
I
agree
with
you
wholeheartedly:
councilor
I
think
the
time
has
come
that
we
explore
a
permanent
fire
station
at
the
Seaport
and
we've
had
some
discussions
with
the
BPD,
a
and
different
developers
about
the
potential
to
how
incorporate
a
firehouse
in
a
project
down
there
and
I'll.
Tell
you
this,
which
we've
been
tracking,
is
response
times
and
that's
probably
the
key
driver.
B
Now,
when
you
look
at
the
Seaport
District,
and
you
talk
about
the
response
down
to
the
Seaport,
whether
it's
on
the
northern
end
of
the
seaport
of
the
southern
in
the
DC
point,
we're
seeing
companies
that
and
I'm
proud
to
say
this-
that
we,
because
the
support
of
Mayor
Walsh
and
you
yourselves
as
councils
that
we've
had.
We
got
such
a
desirable
response
and
we
got
under
four
minutes
anywhere
in
the
city.
We
can
be
them
in
under
four
minutes.
B
95%
of
the
time
we're
starting
to
see
that
creep
up
in
the
Seaport
and
a
big
piece
of
that
is
because
of
the
traffic
congestion
down
there
and
the
fact
that
when
companies
like
on
purchase,
Street,
which
is
the
house
an
international
place
when
they
go
out,
which
used
to
be
around
I,
would
say
Russia
whether
it
was
in
the
morning
of
the
afternoon,
they
did
a
very
difficult
time
getting
back
to
quarter
zone
getting
back
somewhere
to
maintain
that
four
minute
response
time.
It's
gotten.
It's
an
all-day
affair.
B
It
traffic
down,
it's
kind
of
like
an
all-day
offense
down
I.
Think
the
time
has
come
that
we
look
at
the
Seaport,
whether
its
collaboration
with
some
of
our
public
safety
agencies
to
put
a
firehouse
down
in
the
Seaport
and
agree
with
you
Council
with
the
introduction
of
fuel
storage
down
there
and
they
the
other
entities
down
there.
I
mean
everything,
that's
going
on
down
there,
the
developments
and
and
that's
not
even
before
they
get
to
like
the
jetty
past
the
rotary.
When
you
get
past
the
rotary
Yankee
locks,
though
it's
like.
B
What's
that
gonna
look
like
in
five
years,
because
if
you
ask
me
five
years
ago,
when
he
took
this
job,
what
it
was
gonna
look
like
today,
maybe
beside
myself,
to
think
how
big
it
it's
grown.
So
I
think
the
time
has
come
and
I
just
think.
We
need
to
find
the
right
mix
of
whether
it's
you
know
if
it's
incorporated
in
a
3p
project,
a
public-private
partnership,
but
we
need
to
have
that
conversation.
Thank.
F
You
happy
to
be
a
partner
there
if
you
need
to
counsel
fun
and
I
to
get
out
sort
of
help
scout
out
some
locations.
I'll
work
with
you
with
capital
be
more
than
happy
as
well.
As
my
colleagues
on
the
council,
favorite
topic
I
like
to
talk
about
those
two
district
chief
positions
that
were
eliminated
in
the
previous
administration.
F
They
really
put
some
folks,
particularly
the
residents
of
West
Roxbury
at
that
gas
pipeline,
as
well
as
folks
that
are
over
the
hospital
district,
potentially
in
a
situation
where
they
may
not
have
coverage
I
know,
that's
not
your
intention
and
we
had
a
situation.
It
was
last
summer
where
we
were
shifting
all
kinds
of
resources
around,
because
things
stuff
happens
in
the
city,
but
any
chance
that
we
can
have
a
discussion
about.
We.
B
Look
at
the
data
and
data
on
that
and
run
some
analysis
on
it,
and
we
just
need
to
look
at
it
prudently.
I'll
tell
you
this
council
that
that
one
and
you
were
going
back
into
May
of
2017
right,
okay
2017!
We
had
three
multiple
alarms.
At
the
same
time,
we
haven't
had
that
reoccurrence
of
that
the
closest
thing
we've
had
was
the
East
Boston
nylon
fire
just
recently,
the
Cascade,
the
factory,
where
else
Factory
so
I,
think
we
need
to
have
a
little
more
discussion
around
that
doing.
B
F
B
B
We
were
kind
of
limited
by
scope
of
what
we
can
do
with
the
chiropractic
service
and
injuries,
and
things
like
that,
but
I'd
certainly
be
open
to
that,
and
look
at
I've
made
kind
of
stone
on
my
time
here
as
the
commissioner,
how
about
Holton,
Wallace
and
I
just
see
the
benefits
of
people
being
healthy
and
being
returned
to
work
quickly,
because
people
for
the
most
part
do
not
want
to
be
off.
They
want
to
be
back
to
work.
They
want
to
get
back
to
work.
They
want
to
be
part
of
the
firehouse
environment.
F
B
If
you
don't
mean
counselor,
I
just
wanted
tilt
back
to
his
conversation,
but
it
relates
to
what
you
just
thought
touched
on:
around
cost
cost
containments.
If
you
will
right
I,
just
give
me
an
example
of
a
firefighter
going
through
cancer
treatment.
So
I
won
fighting
firefighter.
You
probably
know
who
he
is.
His
name
is
Glen.
Preston
he's
been
in
a
couple
of
our
videos.
Channel
25
boston
has
done
a
special
on
him
and
I
won
an
Emmy,
his
cancer
issues
and
then
be
just
one
of
those
firefighters.
They
just
talked
about.
B
We
lost
last
year,
Jamie
collazo
the
cost
associated
with
the
treatment
I'll
use
Jamie.
As
the
example
jamie
Galasso
was
a
african-american
firefighter
one
of
our
fire
investigation
unit
members
who
was
diagnosed
with
non-hodgkins
lymphoma.
He
went
to
all
sorts
of
treatment
from
stem
cell
and
transplants
and
all
of
the
above
he
was
cancer-free
for
a
couple
of
years
and
when
he
went
back
his
cancer
reappeared
and
in
with
a
vengeance,
and
so
his
only
option
for
survival
was
this
experimental
drugs
and
and
what
I
found
really
repulsive
was
the
cost.
B
So
the
cost
for
his
hospital
stay
without
complications
for
21
days
initially
came
to
us
as
a
$800,000,
the
drug
that
he
was
going.
This
experimental
drug,
his
camera,
which
has
had
some
tremendous,
if
you
will
success
with
the
drug
itself,
was
$375,000
so
with
one
if
we
were
fortunate
enough
to
negotiate
with
the
hospital
and
we
got
the
hospital
to
around
300,000.
B
But
there's
one
treatment
for
this
one
member
was
over
$600,000
almost
$700,000
and
dad
is
gonna
continue
because
we
owe
it
to
the
men
and
women
wants
to
find
a
partner
to
get
them
the
best
treatment,
the
chance
of
survival,
and
that
goes
to
cost
containment.
Trying
to-
and
this
is
the
hole
why
we've
strategize
what
we've
done
around
preventive
health
and
wellness,
if
you
will
the
best
prevention,
I
mean
from
the
best
detection.
Early
detection
is
the
best
treatment
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do.
You
know
Thank.
G
Chief
position
and
really
in
West
Roxbury
anything
we
can
do
to
focus
on
that.
It
has
been
beyond
frustrating
dealing
with
National
Grid,
who
now
controls
the
major
pipeline.
The
750
psi
pipeline
that
runs
directly
across
the
street
from
an
active
quarry,
so
I
know
that
there
would
certainly
be
more
peace
of
mind
if
we
knew
we
had
some
extra
support
there.
So
I
hope
we
cannot
figure
that
out
in
the
weeks
ahead
and
also
Commissioner
I
was
wondering
we
don't
have
to
get
into
too
many
specifics
now.
G
But
several
residents
from
West
Roxbury
who
live
close
to
the
pipeline,
have
some
questions
in
terms
of
the
safety
plan
and
other
things
that
the
utilities
I
know.
Chief
Fontana
has
been
working
on
this
as
well,
but
I
really
value
it.
If
we
could
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
offline,
a
little
bit
about
some
efforts
and
really
meeting
some
of
these
folks
as
well
so
I'm
sure
we
could
do
that.
Absolutely.
H
I
So
the
increase
in
maintenance
is
in
two
places.
Some
of
the
industrial
cleaning
is
in
that
line
and
then
the
other
is
our
Auto
Plus.
So
in
order
to
maintain
and
keep
up
our
reserve
fleet,
as
well
as
our
new
apparatus,
we've
increased
the
Auto
Plus
budget
based
on
our
contract
with
them
and
they
service
they're
located
right
in
with
fleet,
and
that's
where
we
get
all
our
parts.
G
G
I
know
we
can't
get
in
too
many
specifics
with
the
outstanding
contracts,
but
are
we
hopeful
that
that
well,
I,
guess
I'll
start
with
a
request
and
you
can
reflect
it
any
way
you
wish.
Instead,
I've
been
really
hard
with
the
fact
that
this
administration
has
been
able
to
come
to
the
table
with
our
working
men
and
women,
and
a
full
contract
will
be
signed
to
taken
care
of.
G
B
As
as
I
mentioned,
my
opening
remark,
so
this
comment
class
is
gonna
graduate
in
a
couple
weeks.
Here
is
the
most
diverse
class
that
the
pieman
has
put
on
since
the
consent
decree
was
lifted,
I
think
it's
37%
we're
utilizing
the
tools
if
you
will
provide
it
through
the
civil
service
process
and
also
selective
certifications
on
our
language.
I'd
like
to
just
make
one
comment:
we
have
twice
petitioned
hid
on
the
female
hiring
I'm,
going
to
select
the
serf,
a
female
hiring
and
twice
it's
been
denied,
and
that
goes
through.
B
Not
just
this
not
hid
hid
brings
it
turns
it
to
MCAD,
so
MCAD
has
denied
it
twice,
so
we
need
to
do
some
work
there
I
one
thing:
that's
interesting,
though
counselor
and
I,
when
you
look
statistically
where
we're
at-
and
this
is
why
we're
focusing
so
much
on
outreach
and
involved
in
the
community
and
making
sure
we're
exposing
every
person
to
the
fire
service
we
got
to
race,
creed
color
sexual
orientation.
Is
the
numbers
have
come
down
dramatically.
B
B
B
I
think
that
the
fact
that
we
had
their
tragedy
in
2014
and
Wednesday
afternoon,
a
middle
of
a
week,
I
think
people
realize
that
dangerous
driving
in
those
numbers
troubling
if
they
keep
spiraling
down
like
that,
I
think
this
2020,
the
exam
will
be
under
400,
so
it
really
limits
the
pool
of
candidates.
You
have
to
look
at.
G
No,
that's
that's
compelling
and
appreciate
that
that
context,
I
think.
The
other
thing
that
you
know
you
had
touched
upon
is
that
there
are
certain
efforts
that
we
want
to
address
with
state
law.
In
some
case,
federal
law
prohibits
it.
So
it's
difficult
from
our
point
of
view
and
then,
as
we
you
know,
look
at
other
departments
which
may
have
better
percentages
in
terms
of
a
more
diverse
fire
department.
Often
those
will
include
the
EMS
numbers
as
well
and
that
certainly
excused
things
that
I'm
not
suggesting.
B
A
B
A
B
It
varies
counselor
and
when
I
say
this,
it
depends.
Certainly
the
firehouse
in
your
district
was
one
we
it's
good
to
use
because
you
familiarity
with
it.
That's
a
tube,
a
two-story
firehouse.
We
have
other
five
houses
in
a
three
Bay
three-story
firehouses,
so
the
square
footage
changes
the
cost
and
what
we
have
to
replace
and
what
what
other
work
needs
to
be
done
in
those
five
houses
in
engine
21,
which
is
on
Columbia
Road.
J
K
K
J
B
So
it's
trying
to
coordinate
all
the
operational
needs
along
with
the
cleaning
needs
to
get
it
done
in
and
probably
the
biggest
delay
for
us
I
think
has
been
the
unexpected
work
that
needed
to
be
done
once
we
got
there
because
they've
been
neglected
for
many
many
years,
like
I,
said
the
average
age
77
years
old.
It's
tremendous
amount
of
expending
small
time
great.
K
I
B
B
What
we
do
is
you
can
imagine
some
it's
a
significant
amount
of
call
volume
is
the
overdose
epidemic.
I
mean
the
opioid
epidemic.
What
we
do
is
within
48
hours
of
us,
responding
where
we
have
a
good
address.
You
know
it's
not
necessarily
some
an
overdose
on
the
street
or
in
a
shelter.
We
have
a
good
address.
B
We
send
out
our
team
in
conjunction
with
the
mayor's
office
of
recovery
services,
Jen
Tracy's
office
with
harm
reduction,
specialists,
EAP,
Kawada
and
so
on,
to
go
out
and
engage
the
family,
the
victim
and
anyone
surrounded,
and
it's
proven
to
be
very
effective.
Another
program
that
is
being
replicated
across
the
country.
The
internet,
Association
of
firefighters,
made
this
one
of
the
priorities
around
the
knock-and-talk.
This
year
alone,
we
had
I
should
say
an
18
we
had
we
visited
414
addresses.
We
had
over
192
engagements.
B
We
were
able
to
put
two
dozen
people
into
treatment
provided
knock
in
again
with
the
mayor's
office
of
recovery
services,
the
harm
reduction
specialist
comes
with
us,
and
we've
been
able
to
make
a
difference
in
the
number
of
people's
lives.
So
I
it's
a
great
program
and
then
sam-shik
grant
has
given
us
the
ability
to
actually
to
expand
it
and.
B
L
L
Just
you
know
want
to
applaud
your
efforts,
particularly
around
the
cancer.
The
cancer
work.
I
remember
when
we
first
met,
did
a
tour
of
your
offices
with
your
team
and
talked
about
just
how
dire
the
situation
is
so
applaud.
You
and
your
team
for
your
efforts
in
that
regard
appreciate
even
the
capital
investments,
particularly
those
in
Dorchester,
in
this
proposed
budget.
I'm
gonna
jump
in
you
know,
I
care
deeply
about
diversity.
L
L
And
while
that's
happening
it's
this
one
still
doing
is
one
so.
The
diversity
officers
and
I've
been
pushing
for
some
time,
not
just
for
the
fire
department,
but
also
the
police
department,
for
our
proposed
budgets
to
have
some
resources
for
those
individuals.
Frankly,
I
think
it's
great
to
have
a
diversity
officer,
but
if
they
don't
have
their
own
sort
of
staff
and
individual
budget
to
pull
from
I,
think
it's
really
difficult
and
challenging
to
do
their
job.
L
So
I'll
keep
pushing
the
administration
on
that,
but
also
on
a
plot
of
course,
wand
for
the
work
that
he
does
and
the
calls
that
you
take
when
I
do
find.
Folks
in
the
community,
whether
they're
people
of
color
or
women,
who
are
coming
out
of
the
military
who
have
an
interest
in
joining
the
fire
department.
Your
quick
response
and
in
getting
folks
in
the
department
to
call
those
individuals
but
I,
think
you
know.
In
order
for
us
to
have
a
department,
that's
reflective
of
the
demographics
of
the
city
of
Boston.
L
B
L
When
you
say
petition,
what
does
that
mean?
I
mean
you
get
the
list
right
from
from
HRD
or
civil
service
that
you
have
to
sort
of
go
through
so
I'm,
not
a.
This
is
all
new
to
me
this.
This
petition
process
I
understand
the
language
piece.
What
you
guys
in
the
department
are
doing
with
respect
to
that
language
preference
to
be
able
to
hopefully
get
more
man
or
woman
on
who
speak
those
languages
and
I
think
to
also
complement
your
diversity,
recruitment
strategy,
but
I'm
curious.
What
exactly
is
this
so.
B
B
Now
that
we
go
to
where
there's
woman's
privacy,
whether
it's
a
decontamination
situation
where
someone's
been
exposed-
and
we
got
to
run
through
a
decline,
process
and
it'd-
be
much
better
to
have
a
female
walk,
a
female
through
the
process
right
and
that
was
denied
back
then,
and
we
read
petitioned
all
of
that
that
there's
certainly
a
role
to
have
female
firefighters,
engaging
female
victims,
people
that
were
responding
to
careful,
and
we
thought
we
approached
there
on
that.
Narrative
that
that's
what
we
wanted
to
do
and
they
seemed
it
otherwise
and
basic.
B
B
Think
he'd
be
behoove
us
to
move
or
try
to
work
with,
and
I
was
hoping
to
have
a
meeting
with
MCAD
I
had
Regina
Caggiano
from
hid
civil
service
unit
in
for
meeting
with
me,
probably
three
to
four
weeks
ago
on
this
very
topic,
and
she
was
trying
to
put
a
meeting
together
for
us
with
MCAD
did
have
this
conversation
and
it
has
materialized.
Yet
so
I'm
so
I'm
gonna
probably
occur.
L
B
I
would
say
they
did
not
I
I,
don't
I
can
get
to
provide
you
with
the
data
who
was
hired,
I
guess
just
to
stay
on
the
female
side
of
the
equation
we
have.
As
I
mentioned
in
my
opening
marks.
We
have
our
first
female
Asian
firefighter
in
the
Academy
right
now
she
came
from
Boston
EMS
she's,
a
paramedic.
B
B
Offer
her
employment
through
the
language
certification
selection
I'd
have
to
go
through
that
counselor
I
would
assume
if
they
didn't
reach.
We
didn't
reach
those
other
females.
I
mean
when
you
think
about
the
selectors
sure
they
didn't
reach
any
meet
the
other
requirements.
As
far
as
how
those
list
of
prioritized
yeah.
L
B
B
M
Have
a
brief
statement
just
just
as
far
as
the
union's
position
and
all
of
this.
As
you
know,
the
previous
administration
was
not
very
helpful
in
advance
in
fire
protection
and
safety
of
the
city,
elimination
of
jobs,
particularly
administrative
jobs,
in
headquarters,
fire
prevention
and
the
two
district
Chiefs,
as
well
as
the
fire
alarm
division.
M
The
method
they
used
to
do.
This
was
basically
eliminating
jobs
through
promoting
and
never
refilling
the
back
filling
those
previous
positions
to
the
junior
positions
or
they
would.
They
would
also
end
up
using
eliminate
the
jobs
to
attrition,
and
much
of
you
were
aware
or
not,
but
if
a
job
is
is
a
limit
would
be
automatically
eliminated
if
it
is
not
filled
within
the
next
budget
cycle.
So
if
there
is
a
job
that
opens
a
position,
number
becomes
available
and
it
is
not
filled.
M
It's
automatically
eliminated
during
the
last
administration
following
local
718
jobs
were
eliminated.
The
assistant
public
information
officer
assistant,
superintendent
of
maintenance,
radio,
repairman
Foreman
for
the
inside
wireman
cutting
on
the
pay
detail
office
staff
from
four
to
two
and
the
8th
district
chief
fire
line.
Construction
in
particular,
was
definitely
slashed.
M
Their
staffing
was
reduced
from
24
to
12.
At
one
point,
they
were
actually
eight
working
foremen
and
one
Lyman
cables.
Lyman
click,
cable,
splice
ax,
which
is
basically
I
believe,
was
designed
in
order
to
make
it
look
like
it
was
mismanaged
and
eventually
you
know,
would
bring
public
eye
to
Julie
to
that
particularly
I
believe
they
were.
The
master
plan
was
to
eventually
eliminate
that
person's
get
the
person
getting
promoted,
obviously
was
happy,
but
on
the
job
they
were,
all
job
was
never
filled.
M
What
these
issues
have
been
addressed
to
the
hard
work
of
the
fire.
Commissioner,
in
his
team,
we
are
back
filling
positions
rather
than
eliminating
them,
and
thanks
to
the
commissioner,
and
for
in
thanks
Commissioner
for
all
your
efforts
so
far,
however,
the
work
is
not
done
with
all
the
construction
currently
taking
place
in
the
city.
I
remember,
congressman
Oakley
I
believe
it
was
saying
his
favorite
bird
was
the
crane
and
fortunately
for
us
he
would
have
loved
the
number
of
cranes
that
have
come
to
roost
in
Boston
lately.
M
This
is
no
time
to
start
skimping
on
the
infrastructure
necessary
to
keep
the
department
moving
forward
firehouse.
In
the
ever-growing
Seaport
District
proper
staffing,
so
that
members
can
get
the
training
they
need
to
do
their
jobs
and
restoration
of
the
positions
eliminated
by
the
last
administration.
All
of
what
all
of
these
are
necessary
to
make
our
fire
department
among
the
best
in
the
country,
and
that's
basically
it
thank
you.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
council
CMO,
and
thank
you
to
718
bought
via
you.
Your
testimony
and
I
also
agree
with
you
and
agree
with
counsel
of
Flaherty
and
in
with
the
fire,
commissioner,
that
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
population
growth
at
the
South,
Boston
waterfront
and
a
lot
of
activity
is
happening
down
there.
It
continues
to
grow
and
that's
a
real
top.
D
Priority
is
getting
a
a
firehouse
fire
station
down
at
the
South
Boston
South
Boston
waterfront
and
it's
I
think
it's
critical
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
to
the
Commissioner,
for
you
know
for
your
advocacy
on
that
as
well,
and
thank
council
of
Flowery
and
718
as
well.
D
B
Shortly,
certainly,
council
so
Engine
3,
according
to
our
latest
assessment
and
our
facilities
managers,
it's
probably
the
firehouse
in
the
city
that
is
in
most
need
of
replacement.
Its
old
in
that
area
is
completely
gone
to
a
rebirth,
Harrison
Ave,
so
we
in
this
budget
have
money
set
aside
to
look
at
a
feasibility
and
help
us
to
pursue,
put
a
firehouse
in
engine
three
squad
and
we
place
engine
three.
B
You
know
I
think
when
you
talk
about
3p
projects
and
cost
impact,
and
to
me
that's
a
house
along
with
engine
37
I,
think
if
you
see
an
engine
37
s,
also
in
that
mix
which
engine
37
for
those
who
aren't
familiar
is
firehouse
on
corner
of
Ruggles
and
Huntington.
Have
it's
it's
if
you
will
Wentworth
and
North
East
and
it's
hemmed
in
by
a
number
of
colleges.
B
D
D
We
see
Inc
block
buildings
that
are
non-stop
in
more
buildings
of
coming,
so
I
think
it's
it's
definitely
needed
having
a
major
fire
fire
engine
down
there.
So
we
want
to
say
thank
you
and
then
just
want
to
follow
up
on
one
comment
you
had,
commissioner,
from
earlier
the
National
Fire
Cancer
Registry.
Yes,.
D
So
that's
that's
similar
to
an
organization
that
I
had
to
participate
and
it
was
called
the
Gulf
War
registry
and
after
after
service
in
the
Persian
Gulf
being
exposed
to
fumes
and
oils
and
everything
you
know
you
were
tested
to
see
what
type
of
medical
condition
you
had
because
of
your
service
in
the
military.
So
I
think
it's
it's
similar
that
these
illnesses
you
know
they
may
not.
D
You
know
work
closely
with
the
with
the
fire
department
when
people
are
diagnosed
with
an
illness,
maybe
after
a
certain
years
that
they
don't
that
they're,
not
part
of
that
5-year
tracking
order
or
tracking
system.
Maybe
it
happens
after
the
five
years,
and
you
know
it's
still.
It's
still
an
important
issue
for
us
to
focus
on
so
I
just
want
to
get
your
thoughts
about.
What
can
we
do
to
help
firefighters
after
that
period
of
time
may
may
a
lab
may
lapse
if.
B
You
can
I'd
like
to
go
back
just
to
the
registry
piece.
Yep
Council
just
done
something
like
so
we
were
fortunate
a
couple
years
ago
to
be
selected
out
of
three
cities
in
the
country
without
NIOSH
FEMA
grants
for
this
cohort
study
on
firefighter
Kansas,
and
what
we
did
was
this
cover
be
cool
class
is
the
second
recruit
class
that
has
been
part
of
this
study.
B
Okay,
it's
gonna
fall
them
30
years
and
they
have
when
they
do
the
consent.
They
have
to
consent
to
a
blood
sample,
a
urine
sample
and
a
saliva
swab
in
every
year,
going
forward.
They'll
be
brought
back
in
to
track
to
see
if
there's
any
molecular
change
in
the
cellular
structure.
So
again,
early
detection
is
the
best
treatment.
Hopefully,
the
next
generation
of
firefighters
will
be
able
to
detect
these
cancers
at
a
much
younger
age
earliest
stage
and
be
able
to
deal
with
it.
So
we're
gonna
going
forward.
B
The
entire
riku
population
and
concluding
this
comment.
World
class
are
gonna,
be
participating
in
this
program
and
now
we're
doing
incumbents,
so
we're
looking
for
the
study
that
was
an
additional
grant
to
the
University
of
Arizona,
where
the
we're
looking
for
incumbents,
so
we're
looking
for
people
with
10,
15
and
20
years
of
service
to
consent
to
the
same
test.
So
we
can
start
thinking
if
you
will
get
an
idea
of
where
these
cancers
are
popping
up
and
when
they
pop
up.
So
it's
a
great
it's
a
great
program.
B
I
think
that
would
be
one
of
those
things
30
years
from
now
we'll
start
to
see
some
real
benefits
from
there's.
No
there's
no
silver
bullet.
Here
and
I
want
to
I
hope,
I'm,
not
misleading,
there's
no
silver
bullet
here.
This
is
something
that's
gonna
take
years
of
diligent
hard
work
to
overcome,
and
it's
on
multiple
fronts.
You
know
it
comes
from
changing
the
culture,
better
personal
protective
equipment,
early
screenings
tests
and
certainly
help
around
the
plastic
industries
in
the
flame
retardants
trees.
Yet.
D
Thank
Thank
You,
commissioner,
and
if
I
may
ask
one
more
question
mark
Commissioner,
you
talked
about
I
know
we
talked
a
lot
about
cancer
during
this
hearing.
But
can
you
talk
about
heart
disease
as
it
relates
to
firefighters,
yeah?
If.
B
I
had
son
cardiac
arrest
is
the
leading
cause
of
fire
around
death
among
firefighters,
so
firefighters
on
the
fire
ground
are
more
likely
to
succumb
to
cardiac
arrest.
Then
a
building
coming
down
on
top
of
them
getting
trapped.
It's
that's
the
leading
cause
of
death.
What
I
would
say
on
that
topic,
and
certainly
I,
don't
want
to
say
that
that's
been
identified
a
long
time
ago.
B
So
there's
been
a
lot
of
work
done
around
that
topic
around
health
and
wellness,
and
you
know:
cholesterol,
screening,
blood
pressures,
all
of
those
contributing
factors,
so
I'm
not
gonna,
say
that
that's
Square
rooted
that
we
got
a
handle
on
that
because
we
certainly
don't
we
had
a
remember
lieutenant
Richie,
Steiner
I'm
sure
somebody
is
no
passed
away.
This
past
November
from
son,
Carrick
arrest,
it's
still
a
major
problem,
but
it's
it's
easy
to
control.
Right
now.
B
I
want
to
say,
contain
it's
easy
to
for
treatment,
because
people
who
use
you're
going
for
their
annual
physical
and
they
find
out
if
they
had
cholesterol
or
high
or
that
blood
pressure's
high
cancers
a
whole
different
animal.
You
don't
know
when
someone
has
cancer
manifesting
some.
We
were
in
a
cell
structure,
there's
no
test
for
those
things.
It's
usually
not
until
you
develop
a
problem
that
it
means
that
you
actually
recognize
that
you
have
an
issue.
So
the
cardiac
issue
is
certainly
a
major
issue.
B
A
F
The
health
and
welfare
there,
the
diesel
exhaust
ventilators
that
you
have
so
when
you
see
a
fire
truck,
come
out
of
the
station,
has
that
yellow
to
a
hose
I
guess
and
it
just
kind
of
pops
off.
But
then,
when
you
see
the
truck
go
back
in,
it
gets
backed
in
fully
and
then
the
thing
gets
plugged
in
any
chance
to
be
able
to
plug
it.
In
on
the.
B
B
B
If
some
of
the
house
is
so
constructed
that
the
door
frames
are
restrictive,
that
they
couldn't
connect
it
in
the
street
because
they
probably
get
torn
off
on
the
way
back
then,
but
if
they
can,
they
should
be
connecting
it
before
they
cross
that
fresh,
oh,
okay,
that's
what
we
should
be
that's
the
goal
was
to
connect
those
diesel
exhaust
systems
before
they
cross
that
threshold
and
again
I
will
concede
that
some
houses.
You
can,
sir,
because.
N
B
Cleaned
and
a
facilities
manager,
Joel
Mayo,
is
on
top
of
it
anytime
there's
a
problem.
We
immediately
get
it
repaired
because,
like
I
said
it,
it's
probably,
you
know
you
think
about
the
cancer
issue.
You
wouldn't
even
have
to
go
to
a
fire.
When
you
show
up
to
work
and
be
exposed
right,
you
know,
I
mean
you
go.
B
You
just
show
up
to
work,
put
your
gear
on
like
the
apparatus
right
and
you
could
be
exposed
just
because
the
files
right
and
the
fact
that
in
not
even
cold
or
not
even
going
for
a
run
just
say
you
went
out
to
do
an
inspection.
The
diesel
is
certainly
exposure.
Has
it
for
you
at
all
times,
so
those
are
things
that
that
we
can
work
with
in
fix.
Okay,
that's.
F
What
you
get
sure
the
department's
getting
regular
reports
from
these
yes
ventilator
cleanings
and
then
something
I
know
you're
very
familiar
with,
which
is
civil
service,
particularly
veterans
preference,
so
I
want
to
obviously
be
very
respectful
and
and
and
make
sure
that
we're
honoring
our
veterans,
particularly
the
men
and
women
that
serve
our
country,
protect
our
freedoms
and
liberties.
I
happen
to
believe
that
the
veteran's
preference
was
designed.
The
spirit
intent
was
to
to
really
to
to
Vegas
allow
for
a
local
veterans
and
so
the
way
it
works.
F
F
Kid
too,
you
know,
god
forbid,
there's
ever
a
fire
in
1726,
Columbia,
Road
I
want
someone
to
know
where
it
is
I,
don't
want
a
guy
from
Oklahoma
Missouri,
Texas
Nebraska,
trying
to
sort
of
figure
out
where
my
house
is
and
I
think
we're
getting
to
that
point.
The
last
several
classes
that
have
gone
on
you
needed
to
be
a
disabled
veteran,
so
we're
putting
on
a
whole
well
whole
classes
of
disabled
veterans.
F
Ian's
also
we're
putting
on
folks
that
I,
even
from
Boston,
so
I
think
that
something
needs
to
happen
here
and
I'm,
not
quite
sure
what
it
is.
I'll
defer
to
your
experience
on
sort
of
civil
service
and
veterans,
preference,
but
I
think
the
answer
is
a
point
of
entry,
so
you're
a
tort
just
a
kid.
You
sign
up
for
the
service.
Your
point
of
entry
is
Boston.
That's
that's
not
how
it
works.
It's
when
you
get
out
of
the
service.
You'd
get
a
window
to
pick
where
you
want
to
go.
You
can
educate
you.
F
B
Under
the
civil
service
hiring
process,
that's
the
town,
B
option,
okay,
tell
me
okay
and
what
it?
What
basically
boils
down
to.
Is
you
point
of
entry?
How
to
be
in
the
state
of
Massachusetts?
Okay,
so
I
think
it's
a
fallacy
that
people
purporting
that
we
got
people
coming
in
from
all
across
the
country
taking
these
jobs
there
might
this
certainly
people
who've
come
across
across
the
country
who
are
Boston,
firefighters,
but
they've
come
in
sat
through
the
residency
requirement
around
time
living
in
the
city?
B
Okay,
the
option
B
piece
the
90-day
window
to
establish
your
residency
to
while
any
municipality
in
the
Commonwealth
is
you
had
to
point
of
entry
how
to
be
Massachusetts,
and
then
you
can
establish
we
within
90
days.
We
do
it.
Council
We
certainly
have
a
number
of
people
from
all
across
the
country
there,
Boston,
firefighters
and
but
they've
sat
'fl
the
civil
service
requirement
of
a
year
prior
to
the
date
of
the
exam
they
resided
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
have
met
those
requirements
cuz
we
investigate
that
stuff
thoroughly.
B
Just
for
that
reason
in
civil
service,
just
actually
the
lawyers
for
civil
and
economic
justice,
just
petition
HIV
and
the
Civil
Service
Commission
to
look
at
it
and
was
denied
the
option
bTW,
they
denied
the
petition
to
investigate
it
because
they
said
it
is
absolutely.
It's
I
want
to
call
to
the
regulation,
a
law
that
governs
that
hiring
process.
Okay,
we.
F
Have
legislation
pending
to
go
from
one
year
to
three
years
on
the
residency
I,
think
that
should
help
in
terms
of
someone
really
is
rooted
here
and
wants
to
stay
here.
I
think
that's
a
big
factor.
It
seems
like
the
one
year
is
pretty
easy
to
meet.
Just
given
the
recruit
investigation,
the
background
checks,
the
civil
service,
the
task,
the
school
or
the
grades,
all
that
stuff,
all
it
all
takes
probably
a
year,
a
little
over.
Here's
that
one's
kind
of
a
layup
I
again
mine,
I'm,
just
really
I-
want
that
kid.
F
From
from
the
neighborhoods
of
Boston,
to
be
able
to
be
able
to
compete
to
become
a
firefighter
I
know
we
have
the
jumping.
We
have
the
you
know,
folks,
under
the
police
academy,
jumping
into
the
fire
I
mean
you
and
I
have
had
this
discussion.
If
we
can
at
least
have
the
fire
academy
in
the
police
academy
start
at
the
same
time,
so
that
you
locked
in
at
least
you
can't
jump
around
I
think
that
would
help
from
a
cost-benefit
analysis
as
well
as
it
cost
the
cost
associated
with
recruit
investigation.
F
So
but
again,
I'll
defer
to
you
because
of
your
experience
on
on
the
on
the
civil
service
background
stuff
town,
be
option
just
trying
to
find
a
way
to
create
more
opportunity
for
kids
in
the
neighborhoods
that
desire
to
be
a
firefighter
into
a
police
officer
or
EMS,
and
then
they
kind
of
hit
the
wall,
and
so
no
longer
is
it.
You
just
need
to
be
a
veteran
to
do
in
Python.
You
actually
now
need
to
be
a
disabled,
veteran
and
I'm.
F
Just
gonna
say
like
how
did
we
get
to
that
point
where
you
got
local
kids,
that
would
love
to
be
a
firefighter
their
dad,
their
grandfather,
their
uncle.
They
grew
up
around
it
and
unless
they
go
into
the
service
serve
their
country
in,
on
top
of
that,
they
have
to
come
out
of
the
service
with
a
disabled
rating.
It's
kind
of
like
you're,
just
paying
a
head
up
against
the
walls
and
it's
so
competitive
to
get
on
the
job,
because.
B
Did
hiring
back
in
2001
through
2005,
just
post
9/11,
and
we
were
where
you
want.
We
were
there
where
you
wanted
to
be,
because
we're
hiring
kids
with
hundreds
and
all
of
the
above
the
dynamic
has
changed.
Is
we've
been
a
war
for
9
18
years?
That's
the
dynamic
whether
people
want
to
agree
or
disagree.
That's
the
dynamic
we've
been
at
war
for
18
years.
B
I
mean
the
state
law
needs
to
change
and
that's
the
work
that
people
would
need
to
work
on,
but
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
denying
the
fact.
We've
been
at
war
for
18
years
and
the
pipe-
and
you
know
when
you
think
about
it.
Only
weapons
on
the
country
is
involved,
I
mean
that's,
that's
kind
of
you
know
you
look
back
and
think
1%
the
countries
involved
in
these
these
past
conflicts
versus
Vietnam,
Korea
and
World
War.
B
A
D
L
There
we
go.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Sometimes
our
technologies
were
straight
I
apologize,
I'm,
gonna,
run
through
things
quickly.
Commission
respectfully
I
have
to
go
off
to
the
next
thing.
Just
for
the
list.
Can
we
just
get
a
list
of
the
numbers
that
you
recited
for
the
previous
year's
the
number
of
women,
the
Democratic
demographic
breakdown?
For
those
you
know
2014
through
the
current
class.
That
would
be
helpful.
Quick
question
on
bypass
policy
came
up
in
the
police
departments.
Hearing.
Do
you
guys
have
a
written
bypass
policy?
Do
you
have
a
bypass
policy?
No.
O
L
B
B
L
And
then,
of
course,
it
has
to
go
through
here
and
then
go
through
the
State
House,
which
is
a
whole
different,
obviously
legislative
process,
but
curious
from
your
perspective,
commissioner,
if
you're,
what
is
the
appetite?
If
you
know
this
at
the
Statehouse
for
passing,
that
Home
Rule
petition
that
the
mayor
filed
I.
L
And
then
we
put
in
the
budget
last
year,
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
this
RFP
to
have
a
a
robust
sort
of
workforce
training
that
probably
would
include
things
related
to
implicit
bias,
such
harassment.
It
was
you
know
in
response
to
the
complaints
that
came
forward
this
the
the
report
that
K
did
curious.
I
know
the
RFP
is
working
its
way
through
a
and
F
and
the
budget
shop,
but
curious
from
you
guys's
perspective.
L
B
I
think,
counsel
and
I
won't
speak
to
all
departments,
but
this
is
the
personal
opinion.
After
being
here,
almost
35
years,
we're
unique
and
the
fact
that
the
schedule
we
work,
you
actually
live,
eat
sleep
in
the
same
house
as
individuals
and
our
training
can't
be
the
training
that
we're
looking
for.
I
I'm
preferring
and
we're
stressing
needs
to
be
from
someone
in
the
fire
service.
Community
who's
been
down
that
road,
because
it
makes
no
sense
to
bring
in
some
cookie
cutter
program
that
is
more
tailored
to
the
nine-to-five
job.
B
When
you
need
to,
you
probably
see
the
individuals
from
nine
to
five
and
that's
the
end
of
the
day
versus
when
you
live
in
in
a
firehouse
in
that
capacity.
So
it's
it.
If
we're
gonna
be
successful
on
this
topic,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
it's
relative
to
the
fire
service
and
it's
not
just
a
cookie
cutter,
off-the-shelf
implicit
bias,
training
or
certain
Wiseman
training.
It
needs
to
be
tailored
around
the
fire
service
and
uniqueness
of
our
schedule
at
work
schedule.
L
L
The
rfp
attorney
been
out,
so
we
were
thinks
a
prize
to
learn
that
hadn't
happened
yet,
but
would
love
to
stay
in
touch
with
you
guys
on
what
you
just
said
and
how
we
can
have
that
deeper
understanding
as
to
what
this
RFP,
that
is
out
of
the
budget
office,
which
is
central
office
of
course,
connects
to
what
you
envision
should
be
actually
happening
in
your
department
on
the
ground,
so
that
was
very
helpful.
I'm
curious.
What
trainings
do,
folks
in
the
department,
service
and
firefighters?
L
B
So
and
none
of
these
trainings
were
well
underway
before
kay
lodge
report
was
released
and
as
far
as
we
understood
the
uniqueness
okay,
like
I,
said,
we've
been
around
for
a
long
time
understood
what
the
needs
of
the
firemen
a
lot
of
these
you
know.
Training
was
well
underway.
Since
I
became
the
commission,
we
did
allow
the
anti
grassman
every
year.
We
did
all
of
those
trainings
for
Allah
lying
front
line,
supervisors
and
deputy
chiefs.
B
So
just
an
idea,
we've
conducted
an
anti-harassment
training
conducted
with
Ohi
expect
for
worse
based
training
conducted
by
his
boss
and
fire
department
at
a
fire
college.
So
a
fiery
college
for
the
for
your
understanding
is
a
every
january.
We
bring
all
the
company
officers
in
the
captain's
lieutenants
into
fire
college
and
they
get
a
segment
on
respectful
workplace
and
it's
somebody
high
rate
job
and
sometimes
you
bring
in
outside
people
to
have
that
conversation.
We
trained
all
of
our
officers
on
diversity,
implicit
bias,
work,
respect
to
work
through
strains
conducted.
We
just
had.
B
B
Training,
if
I
was
going
to
tell
you
we
need
to
work
going
forward.
Is
we
need
to
bring
that
down
to
the
fire
final
level?
Okay,
that's
where
we
need
to
bring
it
okay,
so
we've
given
all
of
this
training
and
multitudes
of
training,
two
deputy
chiefs
district
chief
captains
and
lieutenants,
it
was
supervisors.
Now
we
need
to
and
that's
what
the.
O
B
You
know
what
I
would
see
our
EMS
training
and
things
like
that,
so
trying
to
integrate
a
training
program
and
getting
it
down
to
that
level
is
a
little
bit
of
cumbersome
and
hopefully
through
we
just
in
the
budget.
We
got
a
new
attorney,
hopefully
coming
on
board
and
a
trainer
I
think
this
training
will
be
best
most
effective,
we'll
be
in
the
firehouse
environment,
one
house
at
a
time
on
a
work
and
why
do
I
say
that?
B
Because
the
topic
is
sensitive
to
a
lot
of
people,
people
that
we
like
them
to
ask
questions
I,
don't
want
the
training
to
be
just
okay,
I
come
in
and
check
that
box.
I'm
done
and
the
way
you
get
that
conversation
started
is
that
the
kitchen
table
in
the
firehouse
with
people
that
they
are
comfortable
with
your
work
with.
So
you
can
have
that
honest
discussion
at
the
kitchen
table
on
the
FiOS
and
that's
what
we're
giving
this
program
to
is
that
we
get.
B
You
know
the
trainings
once
we
get
them
on
board
and
we
have
the
attorney
who's
gonna
handle.
Some
of
it
is
that
the
training
is
brought
right
back
right
into
the
firehouse
people.
Reluctantly,
you
bring
people
we
would
learned
and
as
far
as
training
and
we've
changed,
how
we
train
over
the
last
five
years
and
when
I
say
people
if
I
brought
six
to
ten
fire
companies
from
across
the
city
into
a
auditorium
and
we're
gonna
give
them
implicit,
bio
strength.
Let's
check
the
box
mm-hmm.
O
B
They're
gonna
be
no
one's
gonna,
ask
a
question:
they're
gonna
sit
there
and
get
full.
We
want
to
bring
it
into
firehouse
for
people
comfortable,
small
group
settings
no
more
than
eight,
maybe
ten
individuals.
We
can
have
that
honest
conversation.
That's
the
most
effective
way
to
deliver
that
training.
In
my
years
of
experience,
I
appreciate.
L
That,
commissioner,
and
just
my
last
question
and
I,
thank
you,
councilor
CMOS,
because
I
have
to
run
out
is
right
now,
if,
if
folks
want
to
bring
forth
whether
it's
a
complaint
around
anything
or
request
for
mental
health
supports
or
services,
do
they
just
have
to
go
through
a
supervisor
and
district
chief,
or
there
are
other
places
that
folks
can
go
with
those
complaints
or
request
for
services?
Well,.
O
B
Being
a
paramilitary
organization,
we
prefer
through
the
chain
of
command,
so
people
who
are
where,
when
you
think
about
it,
a
counselor
if
you're
a
company
officer
a
district
chief
in
charge
of
a
district,
you
would
hope
the
people
had
enough
confidence
in
you
to
bring
the
complaint
up
to
the
normal
channel,
but
there
are
channels
to
go
around
and
what
I
say
not
go
around,
but
there's
other
venues
or
other
avenues.
If
you
have
a
complaint
and
you're
worried
about
anything,
specific,
okay,
so
those
exist,
we
take
all
complaints
very
seriously,
they're
investigated
immediately.
B
We,
you
know
one
of
the
recommendations,
Kate
Hodges
report.
We
give
that
rate
to
the
HR
director.
Hopefully
the
personnel
chief
will,
if
you
will
coordinate
the
documentation
that
comes
with
a
complaint
and
the
HR
director
be
working
diligently
in
this
attorney.
When
we
hire
our
attorney,
we'll
be
doing
that
investigation,
and
my
thought
is
that
people
doing
the
same
training
we
get
familiar
with
people
and
they'll
know
people's
everyone's
personality
a
little
bit.
L
D
O
D
Many
events
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
you
Commissioner.
Can
you
talk
about?
You
know
public
public
awareness
campaigns
as
it
relates
to
people
using
their
gas
grills
late
at
night,
I
see
a
lot
of
young
people
moving
into
the
neighborhoods
they're,
not
you
know,
they're
in
the
triple
Decker's
they're
cooking
late
at
night
to
using
their
grills.
You
talk
about
the
public
awareness
campaigns,
so
we
can
educate
a
lot
of
new
people
that
are
moving
into
our
neighborhood
about
what
the
rules
are,
what
they
can
do,
what
they
can't
do
that.
D
B
Especially
in
South
Boston,
that's
right
right.
What
I
would
tell
you
counselor
is
public
education
program
is
out
there,
we're
very
active
by
law.
There
should
be
no
propane
tanks
upon
the
first
floor,
I
think
you
would
agree
that
that
probably
gets
blind
eye
I
would
suggest
people
call
I
mean
your
neighborhood
in
particular
when
I
say
that
and
it
and
the
other
neighbor
was
in
the
city,
whether
it's
he's
Boston.
Can
he
Spartan
comes
to
mind
to
was
congested
wood-frame.
We
attach
dwellings,
rear
porch,
--is.
B
Those
who
take
those
prime
prime
for
firemen
and
putting
a
grill
in
that
mix
just
escalated
that
problem.
So
we
have
public
education,
awareness
people
are
out
in
the
neighborhoods
doing
their
thing
schools
and
we
probably
could
do
a
little
more
around
it.
You
know
leafletting
online
campaign
to
make
sure
people
abide
by
state
law.
We
usually
do
that
every
year,
much
like
we
do
with
in
the
wintertime.
We
do
the
hydrants
and
all
of
those
above
in
making
sure
people
clear
the
events
out
and
all
that
we
should.
K
You,
chair
I,
do
have
a
quick
question.
Sorry
I
stepped
out
for
a
minute.
A
lot
of
my
work
over
this
last
year
has
been
around
proper
sharps
disposal
and
I.
Think
a
few
years
ago
there
was
an
investment
for
disposal
boxes
and
the
firehouses
do
we
do
they
have
do.
We
have
access
to
disposal
boxes
in
our
fire
houses
and
what
are
those
primarily
used
for.
I
I
O
B
I
B
K
Mean
I'm
curious
about
that
Vaughn
I'm,
trying
to
have
a
better
understanding
as
a
city.
What
we
have
for
needle
debris,
both
when
we
think
about
the
opioid
crisis
and
we
think
about
people
with
diabetes
or
other
chronic
illnesses
that
need
to
properly
dispose
of
needles
and
so
that
the
data
sort
of
exists
and
a
hundred
more
than
a
hundred
different
locations.
I.
B
B
B
K
K
But
we
need
to
understand
the
magnitude
of
the
cost
to
the
city
and
shops
is
one
way
that
we
measure
that
narcan
in
distributing
narcan
is
one
that
one
way
that
we
can
measure
that
I
think
the
door-to-door
piece
that
you
all
do
that
I
asked
about.
My
last
round
of
questioning
is
just
really
fantastic,
that
you
are
men
and
women
participate
in
that,
and
do
it
in
partnership
with
other
offices,
to
support
support
individuals
that
are
dealing
with
the
crisis
it
would
be
in.
K
B
A
A
Thank
you
well.
This
concludes
today's
hearing
on
Boston
Fire,
Department
I
just
want
to
say
thanks.
Commissioner,
it's
been
a
good
run,
I
guess
what
I'd
like
to
probably
just
wrap
it
up
is
when
I
first
was
elected
and
came
to
office
in
2008,
we
had
a
really
bad
problem
with
apparatus.
Let
me
first
preface
this
by
saying
your
attention,
in
advocacy
on
behalf
of
the
members
of
BFD,
when
it
relates
to
cancer
and
other
hazards
of
the
job.
Aside
from
actually
fighting
the
fire
itself
is,
is
commendable.
A
B
Say
I
know
that
chief
Walsh,
you
into
that
question,
but
just
want
to
have
make
one
comment.
Sure
I
got
to
tell
you.
Amir
Walsh
has
been
so
supportive
on
that
issue.
We
have
replaced
almost
all
of
our
frontline
apparatus.
I
scheduled
to
replace
it
and
I
men
in
women
are
riding
around
an
equipment
that
is
well
suited
for
the
job
in
safe
and
I
got
to
come
in
the
man
for
given
ability
to
have.
J
Counselor,
so
in
the
engines,
Department
we've
replaced
24
engines
out
of
33
I'm
talking
our
frontline
apparatus
and
over
the
next
three
years.
That
number
will
be
fully
replaced
will
be
33.
We
already
signed
the
contract
for
it,
but
the
ladder
trucks
replaced
every
ladder
truck
in
the
city
of
Boston,
which
is
20
the
towers
we
replace
two
towers
in
the
last
year.
We
replaced
two
towers.
J
The
rescues
will
one
we
replace
they're,
not
what
right
when
the
Commissioner
took
office
and
the
other
one
is
a
up
an
age
but
we're
starting
to
spec
out
that
and
and
go
forward.
The
apparatus
is
so
with
the
city
is
granted
so
much
money
to
do
what
was
right,
the
old
apparatus
company.
We
have
all
those
right
now
they
stored
our
there
at
that
apparatus
company
and
we're
not
using
them.
There's
a
couple
that
had
good
engines,
but
14
of
them
had
bad
engines
in.
N
A
J
J
Problem
was
they
were
new,
the
time
we
had
to
replace
them,
so
that
was
that
was
a
big
problem.
We
bring
it
forward,
but
the
city
was
very
receptive
to
listening
to
us
that
we
have
in
big
problems
and
receptive
with
a
whole
apparatus
plan
which
worked
out
well
and
commissions,
replaced
almost
every
single
piece
of
apparatus
in
this
time.
So
I
think
that's
a
great
accomplishment.
Thank.
A
You
I
think
you
know
as
I
leave
office.
That
to
me
is
one
of
my
crowning
achievements
is
to
leave
the
city
with
the
first
responders.
All
you
and
women
from
BFD
B,
PD
and
EMS
put
your
lives
on
the
line
every
day
for
us
and
with
little
fanfare
and
I
just
want
to
tell
you
how
much
I
genuinely
appreciate
it
and
as
I
leave
office,
you
know
the
city's
in
great
hands
and
and
Public
Safety
officials
are
second
to
none
in
the
world
and
I
just
wanted
that
for.