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From YouTube: Committee on Ways & Means FY22Budget: DND/ Fair Housing
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Dockets #0524-0531 - Fiscal Year 2022 Budget: Department of Neighborhood Development/ Office of Fair Housing
Held on May 24, 2021
A
Hearing
that
ran
long
until
about
until
about
seven
minutes
ago,
so
I'm
gonna
test.
A
I
can
continuously
do
this.
Okay,
so
without
further
ado,
are
we
ready
sorry,
I
should
check
in?
Are
we
streaming?
Are
we
good.
A
Thank
you
so
much
carrie
all
right.
I'm
calling
this
hearing
of
the
boston
city
council's
ways
and
means
committee
to
order
for
the
record.
My
name
is
kenzie
bach,
I'm
a
district
8
city
councillor
and
also
the
chair
of
the
committee
on
ways
and
means
for
the
council.
This
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
live
streamed.
It's
at
boston
city,
council
dash
tv,
it's
also
broadcast
on
xfinity
channel
8,
rcn,
channel
82
and
fios
channel
964..
A
The
council's
budget
review
process
encompasses
about
35
hearings
and
working
sessions.
So
it's
quite
quite
expensive
and
we
one
second,
I
think
I'm
just
kidding
there.
We
go
got
some
feedback
and
you
know
we
really
encourage
residents
to
get
involved
and
come
testify.
So
if
you,
this
is
the
hearing
about
dnd
the
department
of
neighborhood
development
and
the
office
of
fair
housing
and
equity.
If
you
want
to
testify
this,
you
can
shoot
us
an
email
at
ccc.wm
boston.gov
or
go
to
count.
A
A
You
can
always
tweet
at
us
at
hashtag,
boss,
budget
bls
budget
and
then
we're
having
two
dedicated
public
testimony
hearings.
So
if
you're
watching
this
later
and
evenings
are
more
convenient
for
you,
you
can
come,
may
25th
at
6
p.m
and
testify
focused
on
bps's
budget
or
you
can
come
june
3rd
at
6
pm
and
testify
on
any
aspect
of
the
budget.
A
Three
one
orders
for
the
capital
budget,
including
loan
orders
and
lease
purchase
agreements,
but
as
mentioned
before,
our
focus
areas
will
be
the
department
of
neighborhood
development
and
the
office
of
fair
housing
and
equity,
and
I'm
grateful
to
be
joined
by
my
colleagues.
Counselor
ed
flynn
of
district,
two
councilor
andrea
campbell
district
4,
councilor
liz,
braden
district
9,
councilor,
lydia,
edwards
district
1,
councillor
anissa,
isabe
george
at
large,
and
I
believe
that's
our
list
for
now.
A
Oh
and
counselor.
Julia
mejia
at
large
has
just
arrived
as
well.
So
I
think
without
further
ado,
I
want
to
pass
it
over
to
chief
dylan.
Obviously
we're
joined
here
today
by
an
extensive
team
from
the
department
of
neighbor
development
and,
like
I
said,
also
the
office
of
fair
housing
and
equity,
but
I'll
allow
them
to
introduce
themselves.
So,
chief
dylan.
D
Great
thank
you
good
afternoon,
council
block
and
members
of
the
ways
and
means
committee
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
regarding
our
fiscal
year,
22
budget.
For
the
record,
my
name
is
sheila
dillon,
I'm
chief
of
housing
for
the
city
of
boston
and
also
the
director
of
the
department
of
neighborhood
development.
D
Testifying
with
me
today
is
rick
wilson,
deputy
director
for
administration
and
finance,
donald
wright,
deputy
director
for
real
estate
management
and
sales,
and
as
mentioned,
we
have
a
number
of
senior
managers
at
d
d
that
are
here
to
answer
any
and
all
questions
you
may
have.
So
if
it's
all
right
with
you,
we've
got
a
brief
brief
presentation
on
accomplishments
in
fiscal
year
21
and
some
of
the
high
level
proposals
for
22..
D
So,
as
many
of
you
know,
dnd's
work
cuts
across
five
strategic
areas:
creating
and
preserving,
affordable
housing,
ending
homelessness,
strengthening
home
ownership,
supporting
renters
and
managing
and
disposing
of
city-owned
property
before
turning
it
over
to
rick.
As
I
mentioned,
we're
just
going
to
give
a
a
quick
highlight
of
fiscal
year,
21
and
and
what's
proposed
for
22..
D
So
I'd
like
to
start
with
housing,
affordable
housing
development
over
the
past
year,
despite
the
pandemic,
we've
had
a
tremendous
success,
creating
affordable
housing
opportunities
with
over
1
000,
affordable
units
being
permitted.
So
far
this
year,
768
were
funded
by
d
d.
The
other
units
were
created
through
the
idp
program.
D
One
area
we've
focused
on
is
building
supportive
housing
for
our
seniors
we
hear
over
and
over
and
over
again
how
important
that
is,
and
so
we're
eight
we're
working
very
hard
on
increasing
the
pipeline.
So
I'm
you
know,
262
units
is
not
enough,
but
it's
it's
more
than
we've
had
in
previous
years.
So
I'm
pleased
with
that.
One
example
is
hearth
at
four
corners
and
the
picture
of
that
is
on
the
screen.
It
is
almost
completed
and
we're
they're
starting
to
get
ready
to
rent
up
every
year
too.
D
We
issue
our
housing
development
funding
round
and
just
a
few
months
ago,
because
we
always
want
to
increase
pipeline.
We
announced
34
million
dollars
in
awards
from
our
fiscal
year,
21
round,
which
will
create
or
preserve
841
units
across
15
developments,
really
across
almost
every
neighborhood
in
the
city.
D
D
We've
continued
to
support
the
acquisition
program
that
converts
market
rate
housing
where
people
are
at
risk
upon
turnover
and
and
convert
them
to
deed,
restricted
units,
and
so
far
this
year
313
units
have
been
acquired,
including
the
largest
aop
project,
to
date,
morton
village
in
matapan,
with
207
units
and,
finally,
we're
thrilled
to
work
with
the
bha
to
launch
the
city-funded
voucher
program,
which
has
an
rfp
out
now
and
they're,
getting
very,
very
close
to
issuing
some
tenant-based
vouchers
as
well.
D
Looking
ahead
to
22
we're
going
to
continue
to
support
the
preservation
and
creation
of
affordable
housing
by
closing
on
over
1300
new
units
of
housing
in
fiscal
year,
22.,
that's
what
our
pipeline
is
telling
us.
We
can
do
and
once
again
we're
going
to
issue
our
annual
funding
round
in
july,
with
an
estimated
30
million
dollars
available
from
city
funding,
hud
grants,
idp
cpa
and
linkage
funds,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
city
council
for
your
support
on
many
of
the
projects
coming
in.
You
often
give
support
letters
have
worked
through
the
community
process,
etc.
D
So
thank
you
for
that.
We're
going
to
double
down
on
acquisitions
to
preserve
tendencies
and
affordability
and
are
actively
seeking
opportunities
to
leverage
federal,
covet
funding
for
the
acquisition
of
supportive
housing
projects,
we're
going
to
continue
to
recruit
and
support
mwbe
development
partners
through
the
development
opportunity
fund,
which
provides
pre-development
financing
to
small
local
and
mwbe
developers.
D
We've
also
supported
the
bha's
effort
to
house
1,
000,
low-income
boston,
public
housing
families,
so
we're
working
with
a
lot
of
non-profits
as
those
families
find
locations
to
rent
and
get
the
supports
they
need
as
they
move
in
in
fiscal
year.
22
will
continue
to
maximize
federal,
covered
relief
funding
to
provide
more
than
800
supportive
housing
opportunities
to
homeless
households.
D
Finally,
we're
extremely
excited
to
be
breaking
ground
on
two
very
large
permanent,
supportive
housing
projects
for
homeless
individuals
in
the
city.
These
are
the
largest
supportive
housing
projects
we've
ever
done
in
the
city
of
boston.
One
is
located
in
jp
at
3368,
washington
street
and
the
other
one
is
located
at
140
clareton
street
in
the
back
bay
and
the
pictures
are
on
the
screen.
D
So
a
lot
of
very
very
important
work
in
homelessness
this
year
slide
five
and
home
ownership.
I
I
think,
we've
all
recognized
the
importance
of
home
ownership
in
addressing
inequalities
in
housing
and
wealth
in
boston.
Over
the
past
year,
we've
launched
several
new
initiatives
to
expand
access
to
homeownership.
D
First,
working
very
closely
with
mhp
fund,
we
launched
the
oneplus
boston,
first-time
home
buyer
program,
which
provides
discounted
mortgage
rates
and
enhanced
down
payment
assistance
to
eligible
home
buyers.
This
program
has
been
extremely
successful
to
date.
One
of
the
best
new
programs
we
have
ever
launched
with
250
applications,
processed
and
52
homes,
purchased,
70
of
those
purchases
are
by
households
of
color
and
then
second
working
with
maha
the
massachusetts
affordable
housing
alliance.
D
We
established
the
first
generation
home
buyer
match
savings
program
which
currently
has
200
participants,
97
of
whom
are
people
of
color
and
that's
working
with
the
first
generation
home
buyers
in
in
people's
families
and
third,
we're
expanding
our
efforts
to
promote
cooperative
ownership
as
a
pathway
to
homeownership
by
providing
training
and
education,
and
we
are
finalizing
a
pilot
that
will
provide
financial
assistance
for
co-op
home
ownership.
D
D
We
also
provided
150
homeowners
for
closure
prevention,
counseling,
which
has
been
such
an
important
issue
to
watch,
especially
as
folks
have
lost
their
jobs
in
fiscal
year.
22
we'll
launch
yet
another
new
initiative
to
address
one
of
the
main
obstacles
to
home
buying
by
providing
education
and
financial
incentives
to
low-income
residents,
to
improve
their
credit
scores
and
will
expand
the
one
plus
boston
mortgage
program
to
more
lenders.
D
Next
slide
housing
stability,
another
just
critical
area
in
this
last
year,
as
we
have
dealt
with
the
pandemic,
it
has
because
it
has
been
really
one
of
our
priorities
in
one
of
our
largest
areas
of
focus
when
the
pandemic
hit.
As
you
all
know,
all
too
well,
thousands
of
boston
residents
found
themselves
out
of
work
or
their
hours
were
reduced.
You
know
greatly
reduced
in
response
working
very
closely
with
you.
D
You
had
a
lot
of
lot
to
say
about
this
program
early
on
and
I
I
really
believe
that
your
suggestions
made
it
a
better
program.
We
established
the
rental
relief
fund
using
federal
grants
and
have
awarded
more
than
10
million
dollars
to
date
to
assist
2
400
households.
D
We've
implemented
virtual
legal
clinics
and
walk-in
hours,
so
the
tenants
could
continue
assessing
accessing
sorry
accessing
the
services
they
needed.
D
D
Looking
ahead
as
the
eviction
moratorium
and
emergency
declaration
come
to
an
end,
we
are,
we
are
concerned,
most
certainly
as
as
you
all
are,
and
we're
going
to
just
redouble
our
efforts
to
support
tenants
with
rental
relief,
for
which
we've
set
aside
50
million
dollars,
mediation
and
legal
services,
and
to
ensure
that
all
sectors
of
our
city
are
able
to
get
the
assistance.
They
need
we'll
be
enlisting
community-based
organizations
to
raise
awareness
of
the
rental
relief
fund
and
help
renters
complete
applications.
D
There's
a
we
have
a
lot
of
money
to
to
use
for
rental
relief,
as
does
the
state,
but
it's
only
going
to
be
as
good
as
we
can
get
the
word
out
and
make
sure
that
every
renter
knows
of
the
resource
we're
going
to
continue
to
push
critical
legislation
at
the
state
house
to
prevent
displacement,
including,
yes,
once
again
right
to
counsel
in
the
tenant
opportunity
to
purchase
act
which
did
pass
last
year.
Unfortunately,
it
was
vetoed
by
the
governor,
but
we're
building
stronger
coalitions,
and
so
hopefully
that
will
have
a
better
fate.
D
D
So
in
fiscal
year
21
we
continue
to
work
with
neighborhoods
to
dispose
of
surplus
city
land
selling
or
transferring
over
100
parcels
by
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year
and
over
the
past
seven
years,
we've
disposed
of
over
three
million
square
feet
of
real
estate.
The
vast
majority
supported
the
creation
of
affordable
housing
or
open
space
like
community
gardens
and
urban
agriculture.
D
D
Our
grassroots
program
has
really
taken
off
in
the
last
few
years,
creating
15
new
gardens
or
farms,
and
this
is
just
over
the
last
24
months
in
fiscal
year,
22.
Overall,
we
expect
to
sell
or
transfer
at
least
95
parcels
of
land,
although
we
continue
to
sell,
although,
as
we
continue
to
sell
land,
the
parcels
in
our
inventory
are
becoming
more
difficult,
difficult
to
dispose
of.
D
They
are,
you
know,
they've
got
leads,
they've
got
rocks,
they're
landlocked,
etc,
but
we
are,
you
know
we
are
committed
to
putting
as
much
land
as
we
can
back
into
productive
use
and
you'll
see
on
this
chart
that
much
of
our
land
is
not
available
or
not
not
not
suitable
for
any
kind
of
development.
D
537
parcels
are
either
in
the
grove,
urban
wild,
there's
no
interest
or
they're.
Currently
in
you
know
a
redemption
period,
but
we're
we're
laser
focused
on
the
589
parcels
that
we
do
have
250
of
those
are
an
active
disposition
and
340
are
in
predisposition.
D
D
Next
slide,
so
I
just
want
to
take
a
a
quick
minute
to
look
look
back
on
the
last
year.
What
d
d
did
to
support
the
city's
coveted
response
and
then
look
forward
just
and
then
I
will
wrap
up
so
dnd
has
been
at
the
center
of
the
city's
housing
response
to
covid,
ensuring
that
residents
have
access
to
safe
shelter
and
or
stable
housing.
D
We've
added
temporary
shelter
beds
and
created
supportive
housing
opportunities
for
homeless
households.
We
helped,
we
helped
stand
up,
boston,
hope
the
boston
hope
respite
at
the
convention
center,
where
homeless,
individuals
that
were
tested
positive
for
covid
were
able
to
go
and
be
well.
We
established
the
rental
relief
fund
and
educated
renters
about
their
rights
in
multiple
languages.
D
It's
we
provided
ppe
and
cleaning
support
to
multi-family
properties,
and
when
we
were
preparing
last
week
for
this,
it
seemed
like
so
far
long
ago
that
we
were
actually
helping.
You
know
congested
housing
sites
or
sro
sites,
getting
them
masks
and
cleaning
supplies
etc.
But
that's
what
that's
what
was
happening
in
the
first
several
months
we
completed
wellness
checks
and
respond
to
senior
emergency
housing
calls,
and
we
activated
the
strand
theater
to
serve
as
neighborhood
a
neighborhood,
coveted
testing
and
vaccination
site.
I
just
want
to
take
a
minute.
D
D
Moving
forward,
we
are
going
to
continue
to.
You
know,
work
very
hard
as,
as
we
come
out
of
this
crisis,
we're
going
to
support
homeless,
households,
renters
homeowners
and
leverage
as
much
of
the
federal
funds
that
we
we
can
and
make
very
good
use
of
them.
D
I
think
we
are,
as
I
mentioned,
we
are
all
very
concerned
that
when
the
protections
come
to
an
end,
so
we
are
going
to
receive
notices
to
quit
through
the
online
portal
and
outreach
to
the
tenants
that
are
receiving
those
notices
about
the
resources
that
we
have
to
offer,
and
the
staff
at
the
ohs
are
also
tracking
all
of
the
activity
in
our
courts
and
as
soon
as
we
get
information
on
the
courts,
we
are
reaching
out
as
as
as
the
information
as
as
soon
as
we
get
good
information
on
on
trying
to
help
them
get
back,
rent
future
rent
and
legal
services.
D
We've.
We
have
funded
a
lot
of
new
legal
capacity
at
gbls
and
are
working
with
many
many
many
non-profits
on
getting
the
rental
relief
funding
out.
So
we
are,
we
are
concerned,
and
it's
going
to
be,
you
know,
remain
a
focus
of
ours
in
the
upcoming
year,
so
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
rick
and
sorry.
D
E
E
As
you
can
see
from
the
slide,
our
fy
22
recommended
budget
is
35,
sorry
recommended
operating
budget,
including
the
housing
2030.
Special
appropriation
is
35.3
million
dollars.
That's
a
6.2
million
dollar
increase
or
21
over
fy
21..
We're
really
thankful
for
this
additional
funding
that
the
mayor
and
budget
office
have
recommended.
E
The
first
is
two
and
a
half
million
dollar
in
increased
funding
for
the
city
of
boston,
voucher
program
that
sheila
mentioned
earlier,
bringing
the
total
funding
for
that
program
to
5
million
dollars
on
an
annual
basis.
That
program
was
just
launched
in
january
through
an
moa
between
dnd
and
the
boston
housing
authority
and,
as
sheila
said,
I
think
they're
either
they've
just
they're
actively
making
awards
as
we
speak.
E
The
second
investment
is
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
post
covid,
homeless
initiatives.
This
funding
will
support
the
federal
funding
that
we've
received,
we'll
use
it
for
activities
that
may
not
be
eligible
for
federal
funding,
such
as
extending
rapid
rehousing
benefits,
which
is
rental,
assistance,
plus
supportive
services
for
homeless
individuals
and
to
expand
our
homeless
peer
navigator
program.
E
That's
a
program
that
we
launched
a
few
years
ago,
where
we
have
formerly
homeless
individuals
through
our
provider,
partners,
they're
hired
to
outreach
and
connect
currently
homeless,
individuals
with
housing
and
services,
and
that's
been
a
successful
effort,
and
we
want
to
expand
that
and
the
last
investment
is
a
million
dollars
again.
Sheila
mentioned
this
earlier
to
subsidize
the
development
of
affordable
commercial
space
in
d
d
funded
projects.
E
E
So
we
think
this
is
a
really
great
investment
and
we're
looking
forward
to
implementing
it
and
that's
really
it
for
our
the
operating
budget.
Those
are
the
major
changes,
not
much
else
going
on
I'll
talk
for
a
second
about
the
the
capital
budget.
These.
These
are
two
the
two
new
projects
in
fy22
capital
budget.
These
are
really
bha
projects,
but
they
show
up
in
the
housing
cabinet,
so
we
thought
we'd
mention
them.
E
The
first
is
five
million
dollars
for
upgrades
at
the
elderly
and
disabled
public
housing
sites
listed
here
at
various
bha
communities,
and
the
second
is
90
million
dollars
for
phase
3
of
the
orient
heights.
Bha
development
in
east
boston-
and
if
you
have
questions
about
those
we're
happy
to
take
them
back
and
get
get
answers
to
you
from
the
bha.
E
E
Most
of
the
sources
listed
here
are
our
annual
grants
from
from
hud,
but
for
for
22,
the
biggest
source
of
spending
is
actually
going
to
be
the
covid
19
relief
funding
that
we
received
through
hud
and
through
the
u.s
treasury
department,
estimated
at
44
million
dollars
for
and
as
as
we've
as
we've
presented
to
you
in
our
except
all
of
our
accepted
expense
hearings
over
the
past
year,
we're
primarily
using
this
funding
for
rental
release
and
for
our
homelessness
programs.
E
The
remaining
hud
grants
on
here
there's
not
really
significant
changes
to
report
the
continuum
of
care
program.
We
did
get
our
biggest
coc
award
once
again
at
four
and
we're
estimated
to
spend
about
40
million
dollars
on
that
that
funds,
our
homelessness
and
supportive
housing
programs,
and
we
were
excited
that
hud
has
now
rolled
our
youth
and
young
adult
homelessness
funding
into
that
program.
E
So
we
can
apply
for
that
on
a
renewable
basis
every
year
and
the
other
source
on
here
is
the
inclusionary
development
program
that
you
all
know
what
that
is.
E
We
use
that
to
fund
our
housing
development,
as
well
as
our
acquisition
acquisition
opportunity
program,
that's
become
a
really
critical
source
collections
continue
to
be
strong,
we're
continuing
to
benefit
from
the
the
strong
housing
market
going
into
covid
and-
and
we
expect
that
to
continue
for
the
for
the
next
few
years,
although
of
course
we'll
be
monitoring
it
closely,
working
with
the
bpda,
but
we
expect
to
spend
about
20
million
dollars
of
idp
funding
funding
in
fy
22.
E
I
wanted
to
mention
some
other
city
sources.
These
aren't
technically
in
our
budget,
but
they've
become
really
critical
for
our
programs.
So
I
thought
it
was
worth
mentioning
and
we
really
appreciate
the
city
council
and
the
community
preservation,
commission
and
the
neighborhood
housing
trust
your
support
for
our
programs.
Cpa
has
been
in
place
now
for
a
few
years
and
it's
been
a
huge
important
source
for
us,
14.6
million
dollars
awarded
in
the
current
year
for
housing
and
community
guard
and
open
space
projects.
E
Five
million.
This
is
the
cpa-
has
funded
our
acquisition
opportunity
program
over
the
past
few
years,
as
well
as
our
oneplus
boston
mortgage
program
that
sheila
described
earlier,
the
neighborhood
housing,
trust
or
linkage,
16.1
million
awarded
in
the
current
fiscal
year
to
create
or
preserve
853
units
across
10
developments,
some
of
the
ones
that
shirley
mentioned
earlier
morton
village
and
140
climate
clarendon
street,
and
we
project
13.5
million
dollars
in
revenue
from
from
nht
and
fy22.
E
So,
and
I
think
that's
it
for
the
budget
and
I'll
I'll
turn
it
over
to
donald
to
talk
about
our
work
in
diversity
and
inclusion.
F
Thank
you,
rick.
Thank
you
good
afternoon
counselors
and
for
the
record,
my
name
is
donald
wright.
I'm
the
deputy
director
of
real
estate
management
and
sales
I'll
be
highlighting
you
on
our
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
program
here
at
dnd,
we'll
start
with
equitable
procurement,
92
percent
of
dnd's
contractual
services
funding
goes
to
non-profits
of
the
53
contracts
for
for-profit
are
38,
38
are
mwbs,
but
only
9
are
certified.
F
We
conducted
a
significant
outreach
to
mwbes
and
provide
technical
assistance
in
responding
to
procurement
opportunities
and
I'd
like
to
make
note
that
all
rfps
require
diversity
and
inclusion,
a
diversity
and
inclusion
plan
and
on
the
internal
side
our
racial
equity
working
group
has
secured
an
external
partner
to
examine
dnd's
organization
policies
and
programs
to
foster
racial
equity
in
the
workplace
and
build
a
tools
infrastructure
that
will
do
the
same
in
the
communities
we
serve.
I'm
going
to
turn
it
back
over
to
sheila.
D
Thank
you,
donald
thank
you
rick,
and
that
concludes
our
presentation.
We're
standing
by
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have,
and
I
just
want
to
say
for
the
record
I
I
do
appreciate.
We
all
do
appreciate
the
partnership
that
we've
had
with
the
council
over
the
last
year
as
we've,
we've
worked
and
very
trying
and
collectively
worked
on
very,
very
trying
trying
environment,
but
thank
you.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
chief
dylan,
and
we
appreciate
you
all
so
much
before
we
go
to
questions
I
want
to
let
I
think
it
makes
the
most
sense
to
have
fair
housing
and
equity
present
and
then
that
way,
counselors
can
direct
questions
in
all
directions
so
we'll,
if
you
want
to
take
it
away.
G
G
G
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
been
very
productive
in
doing
is
working
very
closely
with
dnd,
with
to
name
a
specific
person,
tim
davis,
specifically
in
writing
what
is
called
the
or
redrafting
what
is
the
afh,
which
is
the
assessment
tool
that
cities
and
towns
are
supposed
to
or
were
supposed
to
complete
under
the
obama,
regs
and
boston
was
able
to
continue
it
even
though
the
last
administration
didn't
want
us
to.
G
We
were
able
to
do
that
and
get
it
completed,
and
at
this
point
it
is
in
it
is
on
mayor
janie's
desk,
being
reviewed
both
in
executive
summary
and
the
actual
executive
order
that
will
give
rise
to
boston's
assessment
of
fair
housing,
so
that
was
one
of
the
major
accomplishments
accomplishments.
We
were
able
to
get
done
in
fy
21.
Also,
we
were
able
to
do
a
number
of
discrimination
cases.
G
This
year
we
received
the
highest
award
from
hud
of
325
000
from
hud
for
the
number
of
cases
that
the
office
of
fair
housing
equity
closed,
which
is
the
highest
award
we've
received
within
the
last
five
years,
so
kudos
to
my
staff
for
all
the
work,
all
the
investigators
that
have
took
on
all
the
housing
discrimination
cases
and,
as
you
all
know,
we
also
one
of
the
biggest
things
we
did
this
year,
which
I'm
sure
the
council
is
gonna,
have
questions
on
which
we're
ready
to
answer
is
the
we
worked,
as
you
know,
last
year,
there's
a
study
that
came
out
regarding
housing,
discrimination
in
the
city
of
boston
and
office
of
housing
and
equity
took
on
that
study.
G
This
was
a
study
that
showed
that
there
was
great
discrimination
going
on
both
with
housing
and
against
both
race
and
voucher
discrimination.
G
G
For
us,
suffolk
has
a
testing
program
which
I
cannot
get
into
the
result
of
it,
because
this
is
still
an
ongoing
investigation,
but
we
have
been
able
to
get
a
lot
of
traction
on
housing
discrimination
all
across
the
city
of
boston
based
on
race
and
voucher
discrimination,
which
we're
happy
to
talk
about.
So
I
think
I'm
gonna
just
stop
there,
because
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
your
questions
are
gonna.
Getting
to
that
and
we'll
be
glad
and
able
to
answer
any
of
those
questions.
A
Yes,
thank
you,
so
much
will
and
yeah
and
we've
had
we've
had
wide
variation.
I
would
like
to
commend
dnd
for
both
doing
a
presentation
and
not
taking
an
hour
with
it.
So
it
was
a
lot
of
information
effectively
presented.
I
think
you
guys
might
win
the
prize,
but
will
you're
far
from
alone
in
giving
a
brief
pressy
at
the
start,
and
then
you
know
we'll
be
jumping
in
with
our
questions
anyway,
if
you
say
so
without
further
ado,
I'm
just
gonna
jump
into
the
order.
A
As
usual,
I
will
reserve
my
questions
to
the
end,
so
I'm
going
to
go
first
to
counselor
ed
flynn
and
then
it'll
be
counselor
campbell,
councillor,
braden
edwards
wasabi,
george
mejia
and
baker,
and
I
neglected
to
say
that
counselor
frank
baker
joined
us
some
time
ago.
A
B
B
So
I
think
my
first
question
to
sheila
developments
that
are
nine
units
are
over
that
are
required
to
have
an
affordable
unit.
Are
we
seeing
any
any
issues
at
all
about
developers
trying
to.
B
D
That's
a
very
good
question,
so
it's
10
units
counselor
and
I
just
want
to
thank
counselor,
edwards
and
bach
for
having
a
hearing
on
inclusionary
development
and
and
and
we
heard
that
we
should
be
looking
at
a
lower
threshold,
and
we
are
talking
we
are
talking
about
that
internally
and
we'll
have
something
maybe
to
discuss
soon
with
you.
D
I
am
not
aware
of
any
projects
right
now,
but
I
do
want
to
double
check
with
the
bpda
so
that
where
we
are
chasing
affordable
units
against
an
obligation,
I'm
not
aware
of
any
right
now
and
usually
I'm
aware
of
them
if
that's
happening,
but
I
do
want
to
double
check
so
I'll
get
back
to
you
when
we
get
back
to
the
council
at
large
and
let
you
know
if
there
is
any.
B
B
B
B
D
As
you
know,
I
I
share
that
with
you.
Chinatown
is
unique
in
that
the
the
development
pressures
that
are
where
it's
located
there's
such
development
pressures
that,
in
my
opinion,
the
only
way
that
we're
going
to
preserve
chinatown
as
a
neighborhood
is
if
we
continue
to
grow
the
affordable,
housing
and
small
businesses.
D
So
we
all
you
know
despite
that,
though,
and
I
think
because
of
of
your
help
and
and
some
very
good
non-profits,
we
do
usually
have
a
very
healthy
pipeline
of
affordable
housing
projects
which
we
underwrite
quickly
and
and
try
to
prioritize,
and
I
can
think
of
five
or
six
right
now
very
large,
affordable
housing
developments
in
chinatown.
D
So
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
combination
of
moving
those
forward
to
keep
the
percentage
of
deed,
restricted,
affordable
units
high,
while
at
the
same
time,
being
very
careful
and
mindful-
and
I'm
not
speaking
for
the
bpda
right
now,
but
being
mindful
of
the
development
that
is
in
the
market
rate
development
that
is
in
chinatown,
surrounds
chinatown,
because
I
think
it's
all
about
balance.
We
really
need
to
have,
as
you
know,
a
good
balance
of
affordable
housing
going
forward
and
it
becomes
very
market
driven.
D
I
think
we
will
lose
the
character
of
that
neighborhood,
so
I
think
you
know
collectively
we
just
got
to
you,
know
lobby,
for
these
projects
to
go
forward
and
associated
small
commercial
space
and
support
to
our
small
businesses,
and
you
know,
certainly
using
yourself
and
others.
Others
are
elected
to
make
sure
that
these
projects
get
priority
at
the
state.
D
B
Yeah,
that
would
that
would
be
helpful.
Sheila
I'd
be
interested
in
in
getting
that.
We
work
together
on
a
lot
of
issues,
including
small
businesses
that
are
owned
by
women
communities
of
color
in
chinatown,
just
with
the
pandemic,
now
being
over
in
the
economy.
Moving
moving
forward
somewhat,
you
know,
prices
are
going
up.
B
What
type
of
assistance
are
we
able
to
provide
women
owned
or
asian-owned
and
immigrant-owned
companies
in
chinatown
that
we
want
to
keep
them
there
and
not
just
have
someone
push
them
out
because
someone
else
has
more
money
to
bring
in
another
business.
D
I'm
I'm
good.
I
know
that
the
office
of
economic
development
is
working
with
many
of
the
chinatown
businesses,
so
I
will
defer
to
them,
but
I
I
will
have
midori
reach
out
to
you,
because
I
know
she.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
work
going
on
right
now
in
chinatown,
they've
been
particularly
hard
hitting
the
pandemic.
B
Yeah
thank
thank
you.
Sheila
and
again
your
team
has
been
excellent
during
the
pandemic
and
helping
so
many
people,
not
just
in
my
district
but
across
across
the
city.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
dnd
team.
Hey
will.
How
are
you
doing
well.
B
Good,
thank
you
for
the
work
you're
doing
will
will
in
in
your
capacity
in
your
leadership
role.
Are
you
seeing
any
discrimination
taking
place
in
housing
as
it
relates
to
our
immigrant
neighbors?
B
I
I
know
there's
an
ongoing
study,
but
what
type
of
impact
has
covet
19
had
on
discrimination
against
immigrant
residents
that
want
to
go
into
housing?
Are
we
seeing
any
type
any
type
of
uptick
of
discrimination
towards
them?.
G
Yes,
council
we've
definitely
seen
a
lot
of
discrimination
towards
immigrants,
but
our
focus
has
been,
as
you
know,
on
either
race
and
voucher
discrimination
and,
of
course,
immigrants
definitely
fall
into
race.
So
without
going
too
much
into
the
investigation,
because
it's
ongoing
we've
been
able
to
test
a
number
of
landlords,
real
estate
brokers,
development
buildings,
all
throughout
the
city
of
boston,
just
in
just
about
every
neighborhood
and
we're
still
testing
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
will
do
in
september.
G
When
our
first
round
of
testing
is
done,
we
are
going
to
provide
just
to
be
clear:
we're
going
to
provide
the
city
council
with
a
report,
a
full
drafted
report
on
our
findings
broke
down
by
broken
down
by
council
districts,
so
you'll
see
which
neighborhoods
you'll
see
the
buildings
you'll
see
what
even
we're
even
going
to
list
the
the
bad
actors.
If
you
will,
it's
also
important
for
you
to
know
that
we're
also
doing
this
in
conjunction
with
the
attorney
general's
office
for
bigger
landlords
or
bigger
real
estate.
G
Folks,
they
will
be
prosecuting
we're
turning
those
over
to
the
attorney
general's
office
for
prosecutorial
action.
While
our
agency
goes
after
them
through
the
means
that
are
given
to
us
for
enforcement,.
B
B
You
know
if,
if
an
asian
resident
has
a
a
voucher
for
housing-
and
you
know
many
people
racistly,
you
know
associated
them
with
covet
19,
but
if
they
had
a
section,
8
housing
voucher,
you
know
I'm
sure
those
numbers
would
be
going
up
in
terms
of
the
discrimination
towards
asians.
Are
we
looking
also
at
that
issue
in
what
impact?
Maybe
the
pandemic
has
played
on
the
increase
of
discrimination
towards
the
asian
community?
Also.
G
Yes,
absolutely
the
agent,
the
asian
community
is
one
of
our
major
focuses.
As
you
know,
counselor.
We
know
that
the
a
aapi
community
has
been
affected
by
covert
19
in
so
many
different
ways,
particularly
in
discrimination,
has
gone
up
against
the
a
aapi
community.
So
the
short
answer
to
your
question
is
yes,
and
some
of
our
testers
definitely
revolve
around
the
asian
america.
You
know
pacific
islander
community.
B
So
we
will
you
all
testing,
sorry
after
this
is
over
after
that
study
is
over
or
investigations
are
over,
but
are
you
having
recommendations
on
how
the
city
of
boston
is
able
to
better
deal
with
helping
people
not
be
a
victim
of
discrimination?
Are
you
coming
out
with
recommendations
as
well.
G
Not
only
we
have
recommendations,
we're
also
seeking
enforcement
and
by
enforcement
we
are
bringing
in
the
bad
actors
before
the
boston,
fair
housing,
commission
and
basically
prosecute
them
before
the
boston,
fair
housing,
commission
they're
going
to
be
given
sanctions,
they're
going
to
be
given
civil
penalties.
Damages
compensatory
damages
that
kind
of
a
thing
so
we're
seeking
serious
enforcement,
and
on
top
of
that
there's
an
educational
component,
which
we
will
also
recommend
that
they
do
that.
We
do
the
teaching.
G
We
recommend
them
to
classes
where
they
have
to
take
classes
as
part
of
settlement
agreements
to
receive
discriminatory
training
or
fair
housing
training.
As
you
call
it.
B
Okay,
now
that's
goodwill,
that's
good
good
information
to
know
I'll
continue
working
with
you
on
that
I
I
have
great
respect
for
the
role
you
are
your
team
plays
in
the
city.
It's
critical.
I
I,
I
probably
think
we
we
need
to
see
about
in
increasing
the
budget.
You
guys
play
a
critical
role
in
in
boston,
but
you
know
having
more
investigators
investigating
these
outrageous
discrimination.
B
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
want
to
thank
sheila
and
all
our
team
for
the
great
work
that
they
do
and
especially
for
your
support
on
on
six
quid
dave
project
in
in
alston.
I
I
I
It
was.
The
owner
has
been
leasing,
the
building
to
bu
and
suffolk
university,
and
the
community
has
never
had
access
to
the
26
idp
units
that
were
part
of
the
deal
when
the
building
was
built.
So
I
don't
really
know
what
recourse
we
have
to
try
and
ensure
that
those
units
come
online
as
idp
units.
I
see
that
the
building
is
being
leased
at
market
rate.
I
This,
for
you
know,
for
the
fall,
and
I
just
want
to
know
if
we
have
any
recourse
and
that
it's
a
significant
loss
to
lose
26
units
and
over
a
period
of
three
years
now,
so
anything
we
can
do
to
redress
that
situation.
I
Also
in
terms
of
yeah,
I
think
that's
really
the
biggest
issue
that
I
had
to
that.
I
had
to
ask
you
about
also
in
terms
of
the
the
funding
for
the
improvements
of
the
bha
properties,
including
patricia
white.
What
is
the
scope
of
that
of
those
improvements
and
what
is
the
timeline
and
will
anyone
be
displaced
from
the
building?
D
So
you
know
10,
I'm
aware
of
1047
comm
ave
and
I
haven't
thought
about
it
in
a
while,
and
I
appreciate
bringing
it
to
our
attention.
My
my
crude
understanding
is
that
bu
was
no
longer
releasing
it
or
was
not
going
to
lease
it
right.
They
were
using
it
as
swing
space.
D
So
if
that
is
a
case
counselor,
then
those
units
that
the
26,
affordable,
idp
units
should
have
been
absolutely
should
have
done
a
marketing
plan,
and
all
of
that-
and
I
don't-
I
don't-
have
an
update,
but
let
me
check
on
that
and
with
the
bpda
and
alexis
and
we'll
get
back
to
you
on
on
that
asap.
D
E
I
No
trouble
and
I'm
also
very
impr,
pleased
to
hear
that
you
know
that
we're
considering
support
for
affordable
rental
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
our
small
businesses
being
displaced
and
in
this
in
the
space
of
a
huge
wave
of
new
development
and
a
lot
of
the
new.
The
new
retail
space
has
been
really
marketed
to
chains
and
and
not
really
targeted
at
their
small
local
businesses.
I
So
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
that's
part
of
our
initiative
and
I
hope
that
we
can
look
at
those
issues
out
in
austin
brighton
as
well
as
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
and
I
think
that's
all
I
have
for
now.
Madam
chair.
A
Great.
Thank
you
so
much
counselor
braden
councillor
campbell.
J
Thank
you,
councillor
bach,
and
thank
you
of
course,
to
chief
dylan
to
you
and
your
team.
You
make
yourself
available,
along
with
your
team
at
all
hours
to
get
things
done
and
particularly
during
covet.
It
was
a
very
difficult
time,
so
I
can't
stress
my
gratitude
enough
and
my
team's
gratitude
to
your
entire
team
for
keeping
people
housed.
You
know
I
was
calling
you
early
in
the
morning
when
someone's
getting
evicted
and
thrown
out
along
with
everyone
else
on
your
team.
J
So
thank
you
guys
so
much
a
few
questions
I'll
ask
them.
I
guess
all
at
once,
and
then
you
can
answer
for
the
gavel
goes
up
by
counter
bach.
The
first
is
shawnee's
work
around
the
grassroots
program.
We
have
heard
a
lot
of
great
feedback
on
that
and
it's
clearly
in
high
demand
in
the
district,
I'm
sure
in
other
parts
of
the
city
too,
just
more
detail
on
increasing
funding
to
to
make
this
help
programs
sort
of
advance
more
quickly.
We've
been
getting
a
lot
of
requests
there.
J
The
second
piece,
of
course,
is
a
shout
out
to
the
office
of
housing,
stability
and
katie.
Ford
is
directly
in
front
of
me
on
the
screen,
so
hello
and
taylor
too.
You
guys
are
like
right
here
in
front
of
me
so,
but
thank
you
guys
for
the
work,
you're
doing
and
specifically
the
office
of
housing
stability.
We
were
sending
a
lot
of
requests
and
we
still
do
so.
J
Questions,
oh
activating
vacant
lot.
So
thank
you
and
your
team
for
the
work
there,
donald
so
many
just
your
whole
team.
Thank
you
guys.
I
can't
stress
this
enough,
but
on
the
vacant
lots
work
really
appreciate
the
shout
out
on
bluehill
ave.
You
know
we're
continuing
to
stay
in
touch
there,
but
one
year
lease
options
seem
to
be
a
great
way
to
activate
vacant
lots
as
soon
as
possible,
especially
for
public
art.
J
So
what
is
dnd
doing
to
be
able
to
provide
these
opportunities
to
folks
and
then
my
last
question,
because
I'm
sure
I
will
see
the
gavel
is
it
actually
is
from
a
previous
hearing
that
was
best
to
bring
it
here?
It
was
around
the
senior
home
repair
program,
clearly
a
critical
program
to
keep
our
seniors
from
being
displaced,
been
addressing
issues,
and
we
all
have
to
make
it
the
best
program
possible.
J
D
So
I'll
start
and
but
I'll
probably
have
to
you
know
hand
it
over
to
some
folks.
So
I
agree,
shawnee's
work
is,
is
sublime.
I
mean
she's
just
like
every
disposition.
Meeting
every
meeting
with
the
public
facilities
there's
a
new
garden,
a
new
food
forest.
I
didn't
know
what
a
food
forest
was
when
I
started
this,
a
new
farm
et
cetera
so
yeah
we
could
always
I
mean
I
think
shawnee
could
always
use
another
shawnee,
but
we
we've
been
a
little
hesitant
in
the
cobit
budget
to
ask
for
additional
staff.
D
But
if
the
city
council
sees
fit
to
to
push
for
that,
you
know
but
yeah
shawnee's
been
been
fabulous,
but
we
are
looking
to
see
how
we
can
support,
support
her
work
and
and
get
get
her
some
supports
internally.
That's.
D
I
I'll,
I
think,
I'll
defer
to
taylor
or
katie
ford
about
getting
the
word
out.
I
agree,
especially
with
small
landlords,
like
I
said
earlier,
our
response
to
cobit
and
people
needing
help
with
rent
we've
got
the
resources.
Now
it's
all
about
messaging
and
getting
the
word
out.
So
I
don't
know
if
taylor
or
katie
of
anything
you
really
want
to
outline
there.
L
Yup
great,
thank
you
so
much
so
we
work
with
volunteer
lawyer
project
which
helps
landlords
as
far
as
getting
assistance
legally.
So
we
have
a
clinic
every
tuesday
evening
with
landlords
and
tenants
getting
them
legal
assistance.
Anyone
who
calls
our
hotline
gets
a
lawyer.
L
So
when
they're
in
court
they
receive
assistance
which
is
great,
which
has
really
helped
keep
the
evictions
down
right
now,
there's
been
13
or
1400
of
victims
filed
in
the
city
of
boston
and
a
little
over
100
executions
issued.
So
actually
113
people
ordered
to
leave
their
home.
So
that's
about
one
percent
which
were
you
know.
L
We
don't
want
those
113
people
to
leave
their
homes,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
to
just
recognize
those
numbers
and
all
the
hard
work
that's
going
on
at
ohs,
because
statewide
over
2
000
people
have
been
ordered
to
leave
their
home,
but
in
the
city
of
boston
113.
So
we're
really
proud
of
those
numbers.
Because
of
the
hard
work
of
our
staff,
I
mean
that's
because
we've
also
been
working
with
landlords.
L
They
will
promise
us
that
they
will
pay
that
money
to
their
landlord
and
that's
been
really
helpful
as
well.
So
another
way
that
we
also
get
the
information
out
is
through
city
councilors.
Like
you
all
the
city
councilors
on
the
call
all
the
counselors
have
been
so
helpful
to
our
office,
getting
information
out
to
landlords,
we've
had
just
different
meetings
with
people.
I
know
that
you
all
know
landlords
who
are
willing
to
accept
tenants
when
we
give
them
this
funding.
L
When
we
say
hey,
we
have
fifteen
thousand
dollars,
we
can
give
a
tenant,
and
then
you
know
every
counselor's
office
has
picked
up
the
ball
and
run
with
it
and
said
you
know
what
we
know.
A
landlord.
L
And
so
that's
been
really
helpful,
so
continuing
to
get
the
word
out
that
way,
but
also
just
by
advertising
whatever
we
can
do
to
think
of
to
get
the
word
out.
We
are
trying
we're
gonna.
I
think
we're
teaming
up
with
the
state.
Now
there's
gonna
be
advertisements
on
the
at
the
train
stations
for
piggybacking
off
of
their
advertisements.
L
We
really
or
any
any
language
barriers
that
people
may
have
we're
trying
to
get
the
word
out
that
way,
but
small
landlords
are
the
ones
that
we
want
to
help.
The
state
has
a
program
for
subsidized
landlords,
so
they're
they're
in
good
shape
and
so
small
landlords
that
we
want
to
know
about
this
program
and
they're
the
ones
who've
been
patient
throughout
this
time,
they're
the
ones
who
have
not
been
filing
the
eviction,
complaints
and
they're,
the
ones
that
we
want
to
reward
with
this
money.
First.
L
So
thank
you
for
the
comments
and
thank
you
pass
it
off.
I
remember
what
your
last
question
was,
but.
D
M
Yes,
so
that
great
question,
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up
just
to
frame
it
a
little
bit
during
covid
we
weren't,
we
didn't
go
into
seniors
homes
because
of
obviously
the
situation,
but
we
still
were
able
to
and
and
did
answer
over
150
311
requests
for
help
emergency
requests
for
help
from
seniors
and
did
80
seniors,
save
programs
so
replacing
heating
systems
because
they
weren't
working
or
they
were
about
to
fail,
and
we
just
you
know,
went
into
the
basement
without
the
senior
being
physically
close.
M
So
we
have
continued
to
work
with
seniors
over
covid
and
and
answered
many
of
their
emergency.
Calls
to
your
point
around
contractor
quality
of
work.
That's
one
of
our
main
concerns
as
well.
Every
homeowner
who
does
a
project
with
us,
including
seniors,
gets
a
survey
from
us
at
the
end
of
the
project
to
ask
them
how
it
went,
what
problems
or
issues
that
they
had
and
to
see
how
they
liked
the
working
with
the
program,
and
so
they
returned
those
surveys
to
us
and
we
share
those
with
the
contractors.
M
If
there's
an
issue
and
we
follow
up
right
away,
we
did
mention
in
the
hearing
that
we
had
before,
with
with
you
and
other
counselors,
that,
because
of
the
funding
source
and
the
way
that
senior
projects
are
funded,
they
are
the
most
complicated
projects,
they're
the
most
involved,
and
so
they
tend
to
take
longer
and
they're
more
complicated
than
the
non-senior
projects.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
contractors
that
our
seniors
are
getting
are,
of
course,
good
quality.
So
we
we
follow
up
and
address
any
issues
with
the
contractors.
M
So
we're
trying
to
do
that,
and
I
I
think
part
of
the
making
sure
that
this
is
addressed
is
that
we
have
instituted
the
every
other
week
call
with
your
staff
and
with
the
greater
metapan
neighborhood
council
to
make
sure
that
if
we
hear
of
a
problem,
if
you
hear
of
a
problem
or
anybody
hears
of
a
problem,
that
we
nip
it
in
the
bud,
that
we
take
care
of
it
right
away
and
so
far
we've
been
exchanging
information,
even
not
about
senior
home
repair
projects
just
about
foreclosure
issues
or
whatever.
M
J
Thank
you
and
we
can
continue
the
one-year
option
piece.
Chief
dylan,
I
see
the
gavel
waving
but
I
have
to
think
you
know,
will
I
see
andrew
will
rick
marcy
jessica.
I
mean
your
whole
team.
Really
it's
been
a
tough
year
to
say
the
least,
and
you
guys
are
on
the
front
lines
in
many
ways,
without
probably
a
lot
of
resources
in
human
capital.
So,
thank
you
all
so
much
and
I
can
save
my
questions
for
the
next
round.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Council
bach,.
A
Great
thank
you
councillor.
Campbell
next
step
is
going
to
be
councillor
edwards,
then
councilors
bobby
george.
We
were
also
joined
by
councillor
frank
baker,
district,
three,
a
while
back
and
councillor
ricardo
arroyo,
district
five
councilor
michael
flaherty
at
large
council
headquarters.
C
Hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
just
confirming
had
technical
difficulties
all
day,
so,
first
of
all
I
mean
I
would
normally
just
go
through
a
name.
Everybody
who's
been
so
so
great
from
your
departments,
but
I've
been
I've
been
one
of
the
few
city
councils
have
been
great,
been
blessed
to
work
with
you
as
a
colleague
and
then
also
now
to
to
work
with
you
as
a
counselor.
So
I
I
just
want
to
thank
all
of
dnd
honestly
for
your
your
your
efforts,
your
work
and
your
dedication.
C
I
know
what
you
have
had
to
do
in
the
last
year
and
doing
it
from
your
homes,
doing
it
trying
to
balance
your
own
lives
and
your
own
kids
doing.
All
of
that.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
and
the
the
love
and
and
the
and
the
appreciation
also
goes
out
to
you.
Will
I
know
that
you
had
to
work
a
great
deal
as
well.
C
I
I
just
to
my
these:
are
my
former
homies
from
dmd,
so
I
do
have
a
certain
bias
can't
help
it,
but
I
do
want
to
just
follow
up
then.
My
my
questions
are
more
update.
Questions
and
then,
where
we're
going,
I
really
appreciate
you
sheila,
really
dedicating
kind
of
what
2022
looks
like,
but
before
we
go
there.
I
do
want
to
know
what
you
know
during
the
state
of
the
city:
2019,
maybe
noah's.
C
2020
mayor
mayor
walsh
at
the
time,
said
that
the
city
was
going
to
have
half
billion
dollars
dedicated
to
housing.
I
don't
even
know
if
that
number
is
relevant
anymore.
C
C
I
don't
know
what,
if
we're,
selling
the
garage
to
to
pay
for-
and
I
do
know
that
the
100
million
dollars,
though,
for
I
think
that
included
bha
bunker
hill
you
know
and
other
bonding
was
is-
is
moving
along.
So
if
that's
one
big
bucket,
if
someone
can
tell
me
what
we're
doing
with
our
big
bucket
housing
plan,
which
was
about
a
half
billion
dollars
last
time,
we
checked
and
again
it
may
have
just
been.
C
You
know
set
it
on
fire,
because
no
one
summoned
pandemic,
no
one
saw
how
we
were
gonna
have
to
redirect,
and
I
I
can
accept
that
too.
I
just
really
just
want
the
update
on
the
housing
voucher
program
beyond
excited
that
the
rfp
is
out.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
clear
again.
It
is
going
to
be
really
helping
to
fill
in
the
gaps
of
people
who
are
in
or
on
public
housing.
C
Right
now
on
on,
I
mean
forms
of
aid,
but
helping
to
fill
in
the
gap,
as
is
just
make,
make
sure
I'm
clear
about
that
where,
where
is
it
going
and
it's
about
500
of
them,
500
vouchers?
That's
another
quick
question
I
have
and
then
I
wanted
to
ask.
I've
had
two
constituents
be
in
in
this
situation,
which
is
they're
divorcing.
C
It's
a
contentious
divorce.
There
is
not
a
restraining
order
and
each
time
they
went
to
go
look
for
housing.
They
had
to
include
their
spouse
or
their
partner
and
that
income
and
that's
what
they
were
told
it
not
by
you,
but
that's
their
understanding
on
the
form
and
so
that,
if
you
look
at
their
taxes,
they
are
still
filing
joint,
okay
and
so
she's
trying
to
leave
him.
C
He
is
abusive,
they
don't
have
the
divorce
yet,
do
our
policies
really
put
them
in
a
position
where
they
they
are
stuck
because
they
have
to
include
their
spouse
and
then
they
end
up
in
a
larger
rent,
so
help
me
understand
how
to
navigate
a
person
who's
divorcing,
not
yet
divorced,
and
then
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
work
on
topa
got.
Yes,
you
got
it
to
the
the
governor's
desk.
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the
homes
act
too.
C
I
know
you
guys
are
supportive
of
that
both
got
through
and
then
I
wanted
to
go
to
idp
and
linkage.
I
know
we're
in
talks
and
we
had
a
good
hearing
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
a
good
hearing
about
what
it
looks
like
to
reform
both
of
those
systems.
So
I'm
just
saying
we're
on
it:
you
guys
are
on
it,
but
we,
I
think
we
all
agree,
they're
going
to
be
changing,
need
to
change,
okay
and
then
finally
to
to
will
er
will
and
dnd.
C
I
think
this
is
the
two-part
question.
We
had
this
really
good
conversation
about
discrimination
and
housing
and
using
credit
in
our
own,
affordable
housing
lotteries,
and
we,
I
think
we
were
going
to
get
back
to
that,
whether
we
still
looked
at
people's
if
they
had
bad
credit
and
were
no
longer
then
deemed
eligible
for
our
our
lotteries
for
affordable
units.
C
You
know,
I
know.
Ultimately,
we
didn't
get
discrimination,
credit
discrimination
into
our
human
rights
commission
law.
We
didn't
get
that
as
a
you
know,
protected
class,
but
we
did
think
reforming
all
of
our
city
policies
that
people's
credit
shouldn't
hurt
them
on
at
least
affordable
housing.
That's
a
lot
I
know,
but
I
just
again
a
lot
of
this
is
not.
We've
had
a
lot
of
these
conversations
where
we
go
back
and
forth
and
we'll
continue
to
have
those
hearings,
so
no
need
to
repeat
them.
D
Rick,
can
you
take
the
first
question
because
I
think
you've
got
the
handle
on
the
federal
funds
and
you're
right?
There
was
a
very
large
announcement
made.
It
was
based
on
the
transfer
tax
passing
it
didn't
pass,
but
I
think
rick.
Can
you
take
that
first,
one.
E
Yeah
yeah,
the
the
announcement
was
500
million
dollars
over
over
five
years,
and
I
think
you
know
I
want
to
say
something
like
half
of
that
was
expected
to
come
from
the
transfer
tax.
So
obviously
that
has
not
come
to
fruition.
Another
significant
portion
was
from
the
lafayette
garage
and
we
did
issue
the
rfp
and
we
are
actually
evaluating
that
right
now
we
do
get
responses
back
to
the
rfp
and
we're
evaluating
that
right.
E
Now,
the
and
then
the
the
remainder
was
from
increased
city
investment,
which
has
largely
come,
come
true
from
the
city,
voucher
program
and
additional
funding
for
down
payment
assistance
and
and
homelessness.
E
I
haven't
kind
of
done
back
done
the
math
and
reconcile
to
see
if
we
met,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
we're
at
or
you
know
closer
or
maybe
even
above
what
was
anticipated
or
expected
out
of
that
out
of
that
plan.
But
yeah
I
mean,
obviously
you
know
kovit
kind
of
threw
everything
for
a
loop
on
the
flip
side
we
did
get.
I
think
something
like
140
million
dollars
in
federal
funding.
E
One-Time
federal
funding
for
covet,
you
know,
has
to
be
kind
of
covet
related,
either
mitigating
covert
or
responding
to
covet
or
recovering
from
covid,
but
the
rules
for
that
have
continued
to
get
kind
of
loosened
to
allow
us
to
use
it
more
more
broadly,
which
we
were
excited
to
see.
So
so
that's
I
don't
know
if
that's
where
we
are.
D
It
might
be
helpful
rick
to
get
over
to
the
counselor.
Just
you
know
what
I
mean
it's
in
here,
but
it's
like
it's
a
little
hard
to
pull
out
like
what
we
have
now
the
federal
money,
what
we
just
project
out
the
next
couple
of
years,
so
there's
there's
a
lot
councillor
edwards,
so
idp
linkage,
you're,
absolutely
right.
D
D
There
are
internal
conversations,
as
I
mentioned,
going
on,
and
I
I
think
we're
probably
going
to
get
before
the
city
council
soon
on
on
some
proposed
changes
to
to
idp
so
yeah
we're
we're,
I'm
really
happy
to
say
that
we
are
able
to
increase
the
linkage
by,
I
think
by
45
48
49,
something
like
that,
but
recognizing
that
there's
more
conversations
to
be
had
vouchers.
D
D
Rfps
house
selection
being
handled
for
those
vouchers.
N
Yeah
I
mean
I
can
answer
loosely.
We
probably
should
get
back
to
you,
because
bha
is
the
lead
on
that,
but
certainly
on
any
projects
that
are
for
trying
to
make
subsidized
housing
that
we
already
have
funding
in
more
affordable
to
extremely
low
income.
Tenants.
N
We
are
consulting
with
the
bha,
and
that
has
been
a
really
great
process
of
consultation
and
really
making
sure
that
we're
pushing
the
resources
as
far
as
we
can
and
then
we
probably
should
get
you
a
little
bit
more
specific
information
about
who's
on
the
bha
review
team.
Okay,.
D
Great
credit,
credit
credit's,
a
it's
a
it's
becoming
it's
a
big
issue
and
I
know
where
we
are
taking
this
up
just
as
a
a
barrier
to
home
ownership.
But
it's
also,
as
you
know,
it's
a
barrier
to
renting
an
apartment
too.
So
I
know
that
in
all
of
our
language
we
have-
and
you
probably
seen
a
counselor.
We
have
language
that
you
know
that
that
people
shouldn't
be
it
should
be
used
as
a
barrier.
D
It
shouldn't
be
used
as
a
way
to
to
to
not
allow
someone
to
rent
an
apartment.
But
I'd
like
to
look
at
that
language
again,
but
oftentimes.
We
are
calling
owners
when
someone
is
denied
and
kind
of
going
head-to-head
on
on
what
the
language
means
and
and
and
and
making
the
case
that
someone
should
act,
absolutely
get
get
access
to
that
unit
maureen.
I
know
that
you're
working
on
this
issue
too,
with
the
people
buying
homes.
M
Right,
so
we
don't
look
at
credit
at
all
for
our
deed,
restricted
home
ownership
units.
We
don't
ask
that
on
the
application
and
at
all,
so
no
one
or
resale
unit.
So
no
one
should
be
asked
that
when,
when
they're
going
through
a
deed,
restricted
or
a
new
construction
home
ownership
unit
or
for
our
financial
aid,
you
know
our
down
payment
assistance
at
all
right,
but.
M
Right
so
so
that's
the
only
time
that
someone's
asked
and
we
are
working
with
and
have
advocated,
that
maha
maha
mhp
and
mass
housing
both
lower
their
minimum
credit
scores
and
they've
done
so
so
now
it's
mhp's
lowest
credit
score
is
640,
which
is
pretty
good.
They
they
lowered
it
in
the
past
year.
Mass
housing,
I
believe,
has
lowered
it
as
well
and
we
are
kind
of
still
pushing
on
them
to
lower
it.
M
D
I
I
do
think,
though,
and
I
and
I
maybe
it's
something
we
could
work
on
this
coming
year
collectively
I
do
think
more
work
needs
to
go
needs
to
happen
with
some
of
the
larger
management
companies.
They
the
work
with
the
margin
management
companies
around
evictions
has
really
improved.
I
mean
they,
the
data
is
showing
them
what
where
the
issues
are,
and
they
know
that
is
not
to
be
tolerated
and
they're
really
they're,
really
working
with
us
better
than
they
ever
have.
D
I
do
still
think
there's
there's
barriers
to
getting
access
to
some
of
those
units,
especially
inclusionary
development
units,
if
they're
in
a
market
rate,
development
and
they're
used
to
seeing
a
certain
credit
score
and
a
certain
asset
limit,
etc,
etc.
So
I
really
do
think
we
could
work
on
that.
I
think
we
do
need
to
tighten
that
that
language
up
and
the
practice
up.
C
And
just
on
the
there
was
a
dv
or
divorcing.
I
don't
know
if
you
just
want
me
to
follow
directly
up
with
you
katie
I
saw
you
nodding
or
someone
just.
I
can
send
her
directly
to
that's
her
understanding,
she's.
You
know
she's
getting
higher
rents
because
she
has
to
include
his
income
because
they
file
jointly.
If
she
brings
her
in
her
taxes,
she's
leaving
him
and
she
feels
stuck.
L
Yeah,
I
did
we
just
had
a
case
with
this
with
the
state
reps
office
and
we
just
showed
them
the
document
filed
at
suffolk
and
they
were
able
to
only
count
the
one
spouse's
income
because
of
the
docket
showing
the
court
docket.
So
I'm
really
confused.
C
Please
send
them
to
me
yeah.
Okay,
that's
fine,
and
I
just
also
I
know
you
guys
are
in
transition
too
and
looking
for
leadership
or
are
finding
leadership
at
ohs,
because
I
saw
dominique's
over
at
office
of
equity.
C
So
I
just
wish
you
well,
and
I
hope
that
the
you
know,
as
you
continue,
the
office
has
grown
so
much.
I've
seen
it
just
you
know,
of
course,
it's
something
I'm
a
little
biased
for
and
I'm
glad
it's
going
to
stay
and
its
mission
is
going
to
stay
and
it's
the
way
it's
moving
creatively.
I
hope
there's
still
a
relationship,
a
legal
one,
and
I
saw
you
working
with
vlp
you're
working
with
the
courts.
Those
things
are
all
great.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
counselor
edwards
next
up
is-
and
I
should
just
say
my
office
has
also
been
doing
some
research,
since
we
last
all
talked
about
the
credit
front
and,
and
we've
talked
to
tim
davis-
a
bit
who's-
not
here
right
now
about
that.
So
I
I
think
we've
got
some
work
on
that
coming
soon
and
agree.
The.
D
A
Yeah
yeah.
I
think
there
are
some
things
that
have
been
done
elsewhere,
that
we
can
copy
and
it's
it's
dependent
on
it
there's
a
few
different
types
of
situations.
It
has
to
be
customized,
but
yes,
next
up
is
counselor,
isabe,
george
and
then
it'll
be
counselor,
mejia
baker,
oreo
flaherty,
counselor,
savvy
george.
O
Thank
you,
ma'am
channel.
I
try
to
respect
some
of
this
five
minute
time
here
with
you
and
perhaps
ask
questions
in
the
second
round.
The
two
questions
that
I
have
at
least
for
this
this
round.
One
is
on
the
family-led
stability
pilot.
The
next
will
be
on
housing
lottery.
So
first
on
the
family-led
stability
pilot,
we
continue
to
call
it
a
pilot
and
I'm
you
know
certainly
proud
to
be
a
founding
member
of
it.
But
this
partnership
is
growing.
O
It
began
in
2016,
targeted
seven
schools
with
the
largest
population
of
students
experiencing
homelessness,
with
the
goal
to
identify
housing
opportunities
for
students
within
close
proximity
to
their
school
and
connect
families
with
additional
support
services.
Can
we
get
a
brief
update
on
the
family,
led
stability
program
and
its
growth?
I
think
we're
expecting
some
growth
in
the
next
in
the
next
school
year
and
then
on
the
housing
lottery.
A
few
years
ago
we
had
a
hearing
on
vacant,
affordable
housing
units.
O
I
know
the
counselor
flynn
earlier
asked
about
some
of
that
work
that
time
a
few
summers
ago
we
had
maybe
100
vacant,
affordable
units
in
the
city.
That
number
I
know,
has
improved
I'm
hopeful
that
it's
continued
to
to
decrease
in
the
number
of
vacancies,
so
someone
could
also
speak
to
how
we've
improved
that
process
of
making
sure
boston's
residents
can
access
those
affordable
units
so
we'll
I'm
happy
to
start
with
either
family-led
or
affordable
vacancies.
D
I
can
I'll
I'll
flip
it,
but
we'll
we'll
hopefully
get
you
the
answers
you
that
you're
asking
for
so
as
of
right
now,
counselor
there
are
59
vacant,
affordable
units
that
are
that
are
in
the
inclusionary
development
program
or
or
in
in
our
lot
or
our
pr,
our
dnd
programs
as
well
and
39.
D
Sorry,
not
39
of
those
59,
are
in
one
development,
because
the
community
has
asked
that
we
explore
modifying
the
housing
resource
if
they,
the
the
developer,
was
meeting
their
obligation.
It's
in
it's
in
council
flynn's
district.
They
were
meeting
their
obligation
by
they
bought
some
sros,
and
now
the
community
is
saying
that
they
would
might
want
to
see
the
same
square
footage
but
the
units
to
be
enlarged
and
have
more
families,
so
those
are
kind
of
on
hold
for
a
discussion,
so,
let's
say
there's
20
vacant
units.
D
As
of
the
report
that
I
had
got
yesterday,
so
there's
been
a
real
concentrated
effort
to
you
know,
move
these
forward.
The
delay
oftentimes
is
with
the
developer,
not
doing
what
they
should
be
doing,
but
so
and
if
you
want
the
list,
we
can
certainly
get
you
that
list,
but
most
I
was
reading
most
of
them
this
morning
it
seems
like
they're
waiting
we're
waiting
for
something
from
the
developer,
et
cetera
rick.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
you
want
to
add
to
that.
E
Yeah,
no,
I
would
say
yeah,
I
think
it's
like,
including
that
project
that
you
mentioned
shayla.
It's
six
total
projects
with
that
that
make
up
those
20
units.
It's
not
a
lot,
not
a
lot
of
projects
and
they
all
almost
all
of
them,
had
something
unique
about
them.
There
was
a
project
change,
one
from
rental
to
ownership,
or
vice
versa,
or
some
other
kind
of
issue
that
sherlock
mentioned
requires
us
to
work
with
bpda
on
and
we're
doing
that
and
then
there's
this
139
unit
project.
D
And
the
other,
the
family-led
stability
right.
The
last
meeting
that
I
attended
counselor
there
was
conversations
about
expanding
the
family-led
stability
pilot
to
include
signific,
a
significant
number
of
additional
schools.
I
want
to
say,
like
eight,
I
don't
have
notes
in
front
of
me
for
that.
I
wanted
to
pull
together
the
nonprofits
and
the
bps
to
talk
about
that
along
with
the
bha,
because
I
I
want.
I
want
them
to
expand
the
program
if
there
are
resources.
D
I
know
that
they're
they,
the
bha,
is
thinking
of
using
some
of
the
new
vouchers
to
support
homeless
families
like
they
were
able
to
last
year,
which
was
as
we
all
agree,
was
just
a
wonderful
initiative.
I
just
don't
want
non-profits
to
go
into
schools
and
say:
we've
got
resources
if
they're
not
there.
If
they're
going
in,
I
want
them
to
say:
they've
got
resources,
so
I
think
we've
got
to
get.
D
We
got
to
finalize
the
number
of
this
first
round
of
vouchers
that
would
be
available
for
families
and
and
and
we
are
the
bha-
and
I
I
I'm
sure,
they're
they're
gonna
have
a
hearing
with
you
all
as
well.
D
They
are
getting
480
vouchers
to
be
used
for
individuals
and
families
that
are
homeless,
so
we
now
have
the
city
voucher
program,
which
is
terrific,
and
we
do
have
some
new
vouchers
coming
from
the
feds
in
response
to
covid.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
before
we
announce
expansions
that
we
make
sure
that
we've
got
the
resources,
so
families
are
not.
You
know
misled
that.
There's
resources
where
there
there
may
not
be
enough,
so
I
can
get
back
to
you
with
the
number.
O
Great
appreciate
that
and
appreciate
all
the
work
that
we've
been
able
to
do
in
partnership,
especially
around
the
special
commission,
to
end
family
homelessness.
I
know
that
we're
getting
close
to
hiring
an
individual
to
oversee
that
work
and
certainly
work
in
partnership
between
the
administration,
my
office
and
providers
and
those
lived
experiences.
O
A
Thank
you,
counselor
asabi
george,
before
I
even
had
to
raise
the
gavel,
modeling
great
behavior,
counselor,
julia
mejia
and
that
will
be
baker
arroyo,
flaherty,
councillor
meghia,.
P
Yeah
so
first
let
me
just
start
off
by
thanking
chief
dylan
and
her
amazing
team,
my
goodness,
you
guys
always
respond
to
all
of
our
emails
and
constituent
concerns
and
do
so
in
such
a
timely
fashion.
P
It
just
feels
so
good
to
to
know
that
you
all
are
part
of
the
team
and
working
so
hard
on
behalf
of
so
many
people
who
are
really
nervous
and
scared
and
or
just
concerned
about
things
that
are
happening.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
so
very
much
to
you,
chief
dylan
and
your
entire
squad
for
just
always
just
being
so
amazing.
So
thank
you.
So
I
just
have
a
few
questions.
P
You
know
we've
heard
and
I
think
kate
bennett
from
bha
was
also,
I
don't
know
she's
on
this
call,
but
she's
a
rock
star
too.
We
we
met
with
a
constituent,
probably
a
month
or
so
ago,
who's
a
bha
red.
She
grew
up
in
bha
housing,
but
when
she
turned
18
and
went
on
to
college,
there
were
some
concerns
about
the
the
potential
of
losing
the
lease
or
or
putting
her
mom's
lease
at
risk.
So
I'm
just
curious.
P
And
this
is
not
something
that
has
been
a
groundswell,
but
there
are
single
dads
who
who
are
raising
their
children
and
I'm
just
curious
what
supports,
if
any,
you
know
the
team
is
doing
to
help
support
some
of
the
fathers
who
who
are
also
experiencing
homelessness.
I
know
that
they
they
face
additional
barriers
in
terms
of
just
kind
of
like
where
they're
able
to
live,
and
I'm
just
curious
what,
if
anything,
is
being
done
and
if
you
could
just
provide
some
insight.
P
We've
gotten
a
few
calls
around
that,
but
not
as
much
but
I'm
just
curious.
What
that
looks
like
and
then
my
last
question
is
around
for
fair
housing
and
equity
and
the
document
that
was
sent
over
to
our
office.
It
says
that
the
department
has
some
salary
savings
due
to
regular
employee
attrition.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
many
employees
leave
on
a
yearly
basis
and
what
is
being
done
to
retain
more
employees
within
the
office
and
what
is
the
plan
to
boost
community
engagement
as
we
move
out
of
covet?
N
D
E
My
internet
just
went
out
for
a
second,
yes,
we
did.
We
did
reach
out
to
the
bha
on
this
question.
It's
obviously
this
is,
you
know
really
in
their
in
their
domain,
but
we
do
want
to
work
with
them.
E
To
the
extent
we
can,
what
they
kind
of
referred
us
to
is
the
family
self-sufficiency
program,
which
is
a
program
that
they
have
where
bha
residents
when
their
income
goes
up,
they
can
put
that
increased
income
into
a
like
an
escrow
account,
so
it
doesn't
get
counted
against
them
in
their
in
their
rent
so
that
they
they
did
mention
that
as
a
potential
solution
for
this
for
this
problem,
there
are
also
ways
where
certain
types
of
income
can
be
excluded
from
from
the
rent
calculations,
but
I
think
they're,
you
know-
and
I
think
counselor
bach
I
think,
knows
this
pretty
well.
E
We
discussed
this
at
our
one
of
our
recent
hearings
that
it
does
depend
on
the
type
of
voucher
and
and
there's
only
so
much
flexibility
we
can
offer,
depending
on
whether
it's
you
know
the
type
of
voucher
voucher
that
it
is.
If
you
want
more
details,
I
think
it's
probably
you
know
best
that
we
can.
We
can
get
a
more
clear
answer
from
from
the
bha,
but
that
is
some
of
the
the
information
they
provided
to
us.
E
D
That's
good,
I
you
you
raised
single
dads
or
that
are
homeless
or
have
housing
challenges
you're
right
it
it
sometimes
it's
harder
for
single
dads
with
kids,
if
they're
homeless,
to
enter
family
family
shelters
because
there's
a
male
or
they
have
older
teenage
sons
that
become,
and
they
don't
always
offer
to
put
put
those
families
up
in
scattered
sites.
So
we
we've
seen
that
as
well.
D
Sometimes
we
really
have
to
advocate
at
the
state,
but
if
there
are-
and
I
don't
know
any-
and
I
so
I
I
don't
know
if
they
exist-
but
they
probably
do
if
there
are
non-profits
that
are
working
with
single
dads
or
support
groups
or
just
non-profit
organizations
that
are
working
with
this.
This
population
be
glad
to
reach
out
talk
about.
D
You,
know,
rental
relief
and
helping
people
with
housing
search
and,
if
there's
a,
if
there's
a
way
to
connect
in
more
of
a
sort
of
an
infrastructural
way.
I'd
be
glad
to
do
that.
I'm
not
aware
of
any
so
I'd
have
to
reach
out
to
or
to
have
to
rely
on
you
and
others,
but
would
be
glad
to
do
that.
P
Yeah,
so
I
would
just
name
two
father's
uplift
ran
by
charles
daniel.
That
would
be,
and
then
also
the
family
nurturing
center
on
bowdoin
street.
They
have
a
fatherhood
engagement,
okay,.
D
P
Thank
you
very
much,
thank
you
and
then
just
in
terms
of
fair
housing
and
and
equity.
Could
we
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
regular
employee
nutrition
and
you
know
what
are
we
doing
to
retain
and
keep
employees
within
the
office.
G
Thank
you
counselor.
So
one
of
the
things
that
have
hap
that
has
happened
is
most
of
our
employees
are
folks
who
come
to
us
who
have
graduated
law
school,
and
so
you
know
they
come
in
for
a
period
of
time.
They
work
with
us
and
we've,
and
you
know,
we've
lost
them
really,
because
we
hadn't
been
able
to
really
pay
them
enough,
or
I
would
say
that
they
work
with
us
to
get
the
experience
and
then
they
move
on.
G
So
one
of
the
things
we
have
done
to
do
to
remedy
that
problem
is
we've
upped
the
salaries
that
we
now
offer
to
many
of
these
folks
who
our
investigators,
who
come
on
to
work
for
us
and
that
has
seemed
to
work
out
pretty
well
because
over
the
last
year,
we've
been
able
to
maintain
more
staff
by
doing
that.
So
that
is
the
way
we
have
now
found
to
combat
and
keep.
G
You
know
more
many
of
our
good
employees
who
are
great
investigators,
working
for
the
office
of
fair
housing
and
equity.
If
that
answers
your
question.
P
And
can
we
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
the
plan
is
to
boost
community
engagement
as
we
move
out
of
covet
like
in
terms
of
communication,
any
psas
or
just
kind
of
word
of
mouth?
How
are
we
helping
folks
as
we
move
out
of
covet
and
what
can
we
do
to
help
support
those
absolutely.
G
So
what
we
currently
do
is
we
have
we've:
we've
engaged
in
a
really
robust
twitter
campaign.
Also
one
of
the
things
we
do
is
we
have
a
strong
education
outreach
team
that
goes
to
community
meetings
through
the
office
of
neighborhood
services
and
spreads
the
word
about
the
office
of
fair
housing
equity.
Another
thing
we
have
done
is
that
our
office
has
partnered
with
two
major
organizations.
One
is
maha,
so
anytime,
maha
is
doing
their
first
time
home
buyers
classes.
G
We
are
a
consistent
part
participant
to
teach
first-time
home
buyers
and
landlords
about
fair
housing
laws.
The
next
thing
is
that
we've
partnered
with
the
greater
boston
real
estate
board,
especially
throughout
the
month
throughout
the
the
fair
housing
requires
april.
We
had
about
over
300
participants
that
we
linked
up
with
that
were
realtors,
that
we
gave
a
crash
course
in
just
fair
housing
law.
One
of
the
things
we're
also
looking
to
do
is
continue
this
relationship
where
moving
forward.
G
G
That
was
one
of
the
things
we
highlighted
on,
but
the
real
estate
board
for
the
state
has
already
moved
on
it
and
the
greater
boston
real
estate
board
now
recommends
us
as
one
of
the
main
organizations
that
any
of
the
realtors
can
go
to
to
get
training
in
order
to
keep
up
with
the
renewal
of
their
real
estate
licenses.
P
Thank
you
and
I'll
just
say
you
know
again.
I
I
want
to
echo
how
incredibly
grateful
our
entire
team
is
to
your
work
and
everyone
here
on
the
zoom
katie
taylor,
kate,
sheila
the
whole
squad.
I
mean
just
thank
you
so
very
much
for
all
your
hard
work.
I
know
this
is
one
of
the
most
hot
topic
button
issues
when
it
comes
to
housing
and
you
guys
are
doing
an
amazing
job
at
at
keeping
up
with
all
of
these
demands
that
that
we
have
to
serve
so
so.
Thank
you.
G
Great
council,
there
is
one
more
thing
I
will
share,
which
is
that
this
fall
in
september.
We
are
looking
to
bring
secretary
fudge
from
you
know,
from
hud
to
boston,
for
a
major,
fair
housing
symposium
working
along
with
our
commissioners,
the
cac
which
is
the
community
activist,
commit
committee
and
hud
to
do
this.
So
I
think
somewhere,
once
we
have
a
date,
that's
settled
we'll
be
doing
a
major
event
with
secretary
hud
and
mayor
jady
in
in
in
september,.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
councillor,
mejia
counselor
baker
and
then
it's
arroyo
and
flaherty
councillor
baker.
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair
good
afternoon
sheila,
and
to
all
your
team
and
and,
like
everybody,
said,
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you
guys
have
been
doing
during
not
just
this
hard
last
year
and
a
half
we
have,
but
also
everything,
leading
up
to
that.
Your
work,
especially
around
helping
us
to
house
homeless
in
in
in
high
need
people
and
those
sorts
of
things.
Q
Sheila.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about?
I
have
a
couple
things
that
the
maha
the
first
generation
match
program.
Like
will
you?
Will
you
break
that
down
for
me,
what
is
what
is
the
match?
How
do
you
get
in
line
for
it
and
also
a
little
more
about
the
the
the
oneplus
program
like
you'd,
give
me
a
a
quick,
quick
synopsis
of
them.
Q
M
I'll
make
it
quick
so
first
gen
real
simple
if
you're
the
first
generation
to
own
in
your
family
and
you
can
save
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
maha
using
our
funds
using
police
overtime
budget
funds
will
give
the
home
buyer
five
thousand
dollars
in
a
grant,
not
a
loan.
So
together
they'll
have
7
500
to
put
towards
closing
costs
or
down
payment
assistance.
M
They
can
use
that
in
addition
to
our
regular
assistance,
so
that's
first
jen
very
successful,
and
if
anybody
wants
to
enroll
in
it,
they
just
have
to
call
or
email
mass,
affordable
housing
alliance,
we're
about
to
give
them
some
more
money
to
enroll.
I
think
50
more
participants,
and
then
we
will
be
continuing
the
program
into
the
next
fiscal
year
as
long
as
this
budget
passes.
So
so
you
get.
Q
M
Yeah,
it
can
go
on
top
of
a
down
payment,
but
you
have,
you:
do
have
to
be
the
first
person
to
own
in
your
family
yeah.
You
know
first
generation,
so
one
plus
combination
of
interest,
subsidy
and
down
payment
assistance.
So
someone
gets
so
they
go
through
the
one
program,
so
they
can
only
go
up
to
100
ami
because
we're
using
cpa
funds
they
have
to
live
in
the
city
of
boston.
They
can't
our
other
funds
are
available
for
folks
moving
in,
but
for
one
plus,
you
have
to
currently
live
in
the
city.
M
You
get
a
further
interest
rate
reduction
from
the
current
one
of
interest
rate
and
we
give
you
enhanced
down
payment
assistance.
So
together
that
means
you
can
buy
more,
that's
the
simplest
way
and
the
fastest
way
to
to
put
it
we've.
We
have
an
incred,
it's
incredible
demand:
we've
processed
about
250
applications,
we're
adding
lenders
daily
weekly.
So
so
we
have
two
more
lenders
coming
on
and
we
have
interest
from
two
other
ones.
So
we
need
more
lenders
to
to
participate.
M
Because
we
use
cpa
funds
and
cpa
allows
you
to
go
up
to
100
ami.
So
yes,
for
that,
one
for
our
regular
down
payment
assistance
program,
you
can
go
up
to
135
ami,
but
because
this
is
cpa
funded,
it's
100.
Q
Okay,
and
and
do
are
we
doing
anything?
This
is
just
for
anybody
that
can
answer.
Are
we
doing
anything
that
connects
directly
to
you
know
how
we
need
to
as
city
of
boston
employees?
We
need
to
stay
in
the
city.
Are
we
connected
on
to
any
of
the
city
unions
for
help
in
down
payments
for
for
city
workers
that
need
to
stay
in
boston.
M
We
allow
the
if
someone
wants
to
use
our
down
payment
assistance
program
and
they
have
money
from
either
sciu
or
afscme
or
any
of
the
other
unions.
You
know
because
they
have
their
own
down
payment
assistance
programs.
We
allow
them
to
use
it,
so
they
can
kind
of
stack
it
if
they
need
it,
because
ours
is
based
on
a
need
pro.
You
know
it's
a
need-based
program,
so
if
they
need
it,
we
give
it
to
them
on
top
of
what
they
already
have.
Oh.
Q
M
We
we,
my
understanding,
is
that
we're
putting
in
some
funds
into
that
trust
that
trust
fund
and
that
then
union
employees
are
able
to
access
it
through
sciu
or
afscme,
I'm
more
familiar
with
those
two
programs
than
fire
and
police
and
and
btu
but
yeah,
but
if
they
get
it
through
their
funds,
they
they
can
stack
it
with
us.
Q
So
the
regular
unions
that
you
would
adjust
seiu
and
ask
me
outside
of
police,
fire
and
and
and.
M
Police
fire
and
btu
may
have
it,
I'm
not
as
familiar,
but
we
serve
the
management
they
have
management
seats
on
afscme
and
seiu
and
d
d
serves
on
those.
We
have
management
seats
on
those
two
union
trust
funds.
So
I
know
more
about
those
trust
funds
than
I
do
about
the
other
three.
Q
Okay,
thank
you.
Sheila,
do
you
have
any
opinion
on.
A
Q
Okay,
do
you
have
me
there,
okay,
sheila
about
opening
back
up
and
efficiencies
that
we've
been
able
to
attain
during
covid,
so
like
hybrid
hybrid?
How
high
and
again
this
is
we're
gonna
be
told
how
to
how
to
come
back
in,
but
have
you
seen
any
or
heard
of
any
real
efficiencies
with
people
staying
home
being
able
to
do
their
jobs
better?
Will
you
be
able
to
cobble
together
a
workforce
that
may
be
a
hybrid
of
what
we
used
to
do
and
what
we
currently
do
any.
D
Thoughts
on
it,
you
have
opinions,
but
I'll
probably
keep
them
this
one
I'll
probably
keep
to
myself.
So,
as
you
probably
know,
the
city
is,
is
in
the
middle
of
giving
instructions
on
on
remote
work
and
reporting
back
to
work
in
person,
etc,
and
I
I
think
some
of
that
information
is
getting
out
this
week.
D
I
know
that
they
are
going
to
be
interested
in
hearing
from
many
of
us
on
how
remote
work
is
gone
and
what
we've
learned
and
and
best
practices.
So
I
really,
I
think
I
will
defer
to
a
f
on
this
on
this,
but
I
will
say
you
know
I
just
it's
a
credit
to
d
d
staff
and
I'm
sure
other
divisions
and
departments
can
can
would
attest
to
it
too.
D
We
haven't
lost
a
beat.
We
have.
We
have
worked
hard,
we've
done
well,
people
know
I've
had
mastered
muting
with
lots
of
little
kids
around,
but
it's
it's
the
war,
as
you
know,
from
the
numbers
that
I
showed
earlier.
We've
had
a
really
productive
year
with
people
working
remote.
So
I
I
think
some
of
us
are
even
saying
that
we're
more
exhausted
after
a
a
day
of
remote
meetings,
because
you
go
from
one
to
the
other
and
you
don't
even
have
the
the
built-in
breaks
of
of
moving.
D
So
I
think
that
I
think
that
we've
done
a
really
good
job
and
I
look
forward
to
giving
my
opinions
to
a
f
about
about
what
we've
learned.
Q
Yeah
interesting,
okay,
sorry
to
put
you
on
the
spot
like
that,
I'm
just
I'm
thinking
about
it
because
I
know
there
are
certain
operations
that
have
that
can
probably
layer
in
layer
in
a
little
bit
of
the
remote,
and
it
would
help
us
on
on
a
lot
of
different
levels.
I.
D
I
will
say
one
thing:
frank,
I
mean
one
thing
that
we
will
be
thinking
about.
Dnd,
certainly
we'll
be
looking
at
thinking
about
is,
you
know,
are
all
of
the
community
processes
that
we
run
right.
We
run
on
when
we
do
develop,
develop
a
program
or
dispose
of
land,
or
do
you
know
community
planning
in
you
know,
in
various
parts
of
the
city
we've
had.
I
know
that
some
people
really
miss
being
in
person,
but
we've
had
a
lot
of
really
good
participation.
D
So
I
think
that
is
something
that
we
do
need
to
look
at
collectively,
because
there's
a
lot
of
moms,
dads
and
seniors
that
would
rather
get
on
zoom,
because
now
they
know
how
than
trek
out
in
bad
weather
to
to
go
to
a
community
meeting.
So
I
do
think
we
need
to
figure
out
how
we
continue
to
keep
folks
that
wouldn't
necessarily
be
engaged
engaged.
Q
Thank
you.
I
I
lost
there
for
a
little
while,
but
I
know
what
you're
saying
can
can.
Can
someone
talk
about?
Well,
actually,
let
me
get
into
so
before
I
run
out
of
time.
Oh,
can
I
ask
one
more
one:
more
line:
kenzie
yeah
one
one
more
time:
okay,
sheila
you
and
I
have
spoken
a
little
bit
about
oppam's
corner
in
in
in
the
the
administration
is
asked
about
an
rfp
for
hamlet
street
there.
That
will
go
to
you.
Q
How
much
involvement
has
your
sh
has
dnd
had
in
that
planning
initiative
study
up
there
and
in
particular,
do
you
know
anything
about
the
the?
What
we're
looking
at
what
dsni
is
looking
to
do
around
the
citizens
bank.
D
So
I'm
going
to
hand
this
over
to
jessica
on
the
the
street
discontinuance,
but
you
know
dni
does
own
the
citizens
bank
and
they
did
an
rfp.
We
we're
not
on
this.
We
are
officially
not
on
the
selection
criteria
and
I
there
were
two
good
proposals
that
came
forward
and
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
opinions
in
uppam's
proper
and
then
you
know
up
and
surround
the
surrounding
area
to
uphams.
D
I
don't
have
a
latest
as
of
this
afternoon
on
where,
when
a
decision
is
going
to
be
made,
I
know
that
there
was
some
interest
in
postponing
decision
until
more
voices
could
be
heard.
So
let
me
get
the
latest
because
it's
changing
you
know
every
couple
of
hours
and
I'll
be
in
touch,
but
we,
when
we
did
provide
resources
for
dna
to
fund
or
to
buy
the
citizens
bank,
which
we
do
with
nonprofits.
We
give
acquisition
funding
to
non-profits
we
didn't
make.
You
know.
D
Q
But
but
shouldn't
we
have
somewhat
of
a
where
we,
through
the
bpda
have
the
eye.
That's
looking
towards
the
whole
the
whole
area
shouldn't
we
automatically
have
some
kind
of
say
in
there.
If
we,
if,
if
we
know
or
have
a
vision
as
a
city
and
city
agencies,
is
what
should
potentially
happen
up
there
with
the
strand
and-
and
you
know
the
way
we're
trying
to
craft
the
whole
thing
is
it?
Will
we
have
involvement
across
the
street
near
like
with
this,
with
the
strand,
rfp
and
all
those
other
rfps
right.
D
He's
going
to
run
those
yeah,
those
are
those
are
much.
Those
are
being
run
by
the
city,
so
those
indeed
those
those
those
rfps
are
being
run
by
the
city
developers
are
going
to
be
selected
by
the
city
or
the
bpda,
so
those
are
going
to
have
much
more
city
involvement.
Jess.
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
you
want
to
add
about
hamlet
street
yeah,
so.
N
So
to
sheila's
point:
not
only
will
those
rfps
have
a
lot
of
city
involvement,
but
we
have
had
staff
engaged
in
the
initial
planning
for
those
city-owned
parcels
that
pre-date
my
tenure
with
the
city
so
for
for
for
quite
some
time
and
on
hamlet
street
in
particular,
you
know
if,
if
the
council
approves
then
hamlet
street
will
become
a
dnd
parcel
so
that
when
the
rfp
goes
out,
we
will
we'll
be
the
ones
overseeing
that
selection.
N
So
the
selection
committee
will
be
largely
you
know,
comprised
of
of
our
team
and
then,
of
course,
in
partnership
with
the
the
wag,
the
bpda's
working
area
area
group
that
that
has
been
really
working
at
this.
You
know
in
partnership
with
the
city
since
the
beginning,
so
so
it
will
be.
You
know
it's
a
different
process
than
than
what's
going
on
right
now,
with
the
dsni
owned
building
and
and
will
look
probably
more
similar
to
other
significant
rfps
that
that
dnd
has
put
out
other
than
that.
D
D
Q
Q
The
city
officially
say
you
know,
show
me
exactly
what
the
whole
plan
for
the
place
is
because
with
again,
if
that's
parking,
if,
if
that's
parking
without
getting
too
much
into
it
and
and
and
this
we're
taking
away
parking
that
could
be
for
the
strand,
one
of
the
citizens
bank
proposals
was
for
some
parking
which
would
be
directly
across
the
street
from
the
strand.
I
just
you
know,
I
think
the
city
needs
the
city,
whether
it's
bpda
or
or
who
it
is
needs
to
step
up
here
and
and
and
give
some
guidance.
D
No,
I
I
I
hear
you
and
yeah
this
is
this
is
being
debated
in
a
lot
of
corners,
I'll
just
leave
you
with
this
thought.
You
know
that
dni
is
not
acting
solo
here,
they're
they're
they
have
a
community
advisory
put
together
from
community
members
and
leadership
as
well
so
yeah,
it's
just
I
mean
it's
just
a
it's.
Q
A
A
Q
A
You
thank
you,
councillor,
baker,
councillor
arroyo
and
then
council
flaherty,
councillor
royal.
R
Thank
you
so
much
I'll
try
to
stay
within
my
time.
I
just
want
to
join
the
course
of
thank
yous
to
the
department
of
fair
housing,
the
office
of
fair
housing
and
the
department
of
neighborhood
development,
just
for
being
timely
with
call
backs.
I
also
want
to
commend
katie
ford,
who
I
know
is
on
here,
who
has
served
in
a
couple
of
constituent
emergencies
on
very
short
notice,
well
beyond
the
hours
of
city
hall,
to
take
care
of
issues
for
me.
R
So
I
appreciate
that
very
much
to
jump
right
into
some
of
the
questions.
Many
of
the
office
of
fair
housing
and
equity
staff
are
funded
through
external
funding.
Are
there
any
plans
by
the
administration
to
make
at
least
some
of
these
positions
funded
through
the
operating
budget?
How
stable
is
the
amount
of
external
funds
that
support
these
positions?
Does
it
change
from
year
to
year.
G
So
high
counselor
will
nowhere
for
the
office
of
fair,
fair
housing
and
equity.
So
the
first
question
is
how
stable
the
funds
I
would
say
that
our
funds
are
are
very
stable.
G
We
we
were
in
conversations
with
the
city
prior
to
covid,
about
moving
some
positions
on
to
the
operating
budget,
but
because
of
ho
because
of
kovat
those
conversations
were
halted.
As
you
can
imagine,
we
are
picking
it
back
up
with
obm
with
hopes
that
in
fy
22
we're
going
to
pick
up
more
than
where
we
left
off,
where
some
or
more
than
some
of
the
positions
will
be
back,
meaning
investigative
positions
will
be
funded
by
the
operating
budget.
G
So
that's
the
first
answer
to
your
first
question.
The
second
thing
is:
we
have
a
decent
amount
of
decent
surplus
right
now
from
our
grants.
So
in
terms
of
running
the
office,
there's
no
there's
no
problem
in
terms
of
the
funding
of
the
office.
Currently,
there's
none.
R
Fantastic
and
actually,
I
think,
you're-
probably
going
to
be
the
one
to
answer
these
next
questions,
because
I
remember
you're
the
one
at
the
hearings.
But
to
what
extent
is
the
office
of
fair
housing
and
equity
proactively
investigating
cases
of
discrimination
in
boston
rather
than
depending
on
residents
to
file
complaints?.
G
So
current
I'm
going
to
turn
that
over
to
andrew,
but
before
I
do
because
andrew
is
the
director
of
investigate
investigations.
Currently,
as
you
know,
counselor
we
have
an
ongoing
investigation
that
I
can
get
into
that.
We
talked
about
with
you
and
some
of
the
other
counselors
who
are
on
this
in
this
hearing
on
october
13th,
where
we
are
actively
investigating
discrimination
in
the
city
of
boston,
both
for
race
and
voucher
discrimination.
G
Of
course,
this
is
something
that
came
up
because
of
an
article
that
was
written
on
july
1st
of
last
year
by
the
globe.
Tim
logan
wrote
that
article
as
you
can
account
or
remember-
and
it
was
the
study-
was
done
by
the
boston
foundation
and
suffolk
law.
G
Just
to
give
you
a
quick
background,
we
were
not
able
to
obtain
that
information
because
it
was
done
for
educational
purposes,
so
ferpa
laws
prevented
us
from
getting
it.
So
we
contracted
suffolk
to
do
the
same
testing
for
us
to
test
that
sample
and
more
so
currently,
we
are
actively
going
after
discrimination
on
our
own
and
what
happens
is
any
place
where
we
find
that
there
that
landlords,
banks
developers
whomever
are
engaged
in
discriminatory
practices.
S
And
so
high
counselor
arroyo
andrew
espinosa
for
office
of
fair
housing
yeah.
What
will
said
about
the
partnership
with
suffolk
is
correct.
It's
true
that
traditionally
our
office
and
other
fair
housing
offices
like
ours,
have
relied
on
receiving
complaints
from
the
public,
but
by
partnering,
with
suffix
testing
program
and
receiving
the
results
of
their
testing.
That's
us
being
proactive.
It's
basically
self
extends
the
testers
out
in
the
field.
S
They
do
the
tests
they
see.
If
there's
discrimination
happening
in
the
real
estate
transactions
that
they
are
trying
to
engage
in
and
they
report
any
positive
results
for
discrimination
back
to
us
and
we
in
turn
turn
those
results
into
commission
initiated
complaints.
So,
instead
of
just
waiting
on
members
of
the
public
to
contact
us
and
do
an
intake
like
we
did
traditionally,
this
is
us
going
out
into
the
city
and
proactively
going
after
landlords
going
after
realtors
going
after
property
management
companies
that
are
engaging
these
practices
and
investigating
and
then
doing
enforcement
against
them.
S
So
there's
the
commission
initiated
complaints
then
also
the
other
thing
that's
one
to
mention
briefly,
is
that
we've
been
in
sporadic
talks
with
affirmative
marketing
to
do
more
with
properties
that
are
subject
to
affirmative
marketing
plans.
As
we
understand
it,
our
commission
also
has
jurisdiction
to
do
enforcement
around
violations
of
the
formative
marketing
plans.
So
we've
been
talking
and
and
trying
to
ponder
ideas
about
getting
something
off
the
ground
where,
if
there's
a
violation
of
an
affirmative
marketing
plan,
they
could
bring
that
complaint
before
the
commission.
S
The
commissioner
can
make
a
decision
about
what
to
do
in
that
decision,
rather
than
you
know.
The
traditional
means
that
have
been
being
utilized
to
to
address
those
problems.
R
Thank
you
on
that
and
I
guess
the
question
sort
of
sort
of
related
to
this
budget
in
the
sense
that
it
it
might
be
a
part
of
future
budgets.
But
in
what
ways
are
we
creatively?
Because
I'm
I'm
aware
of
the
suffolk
one
where
obviously
we
have
a
hearing
on
this?
I
I,
I
wrote
a
a
piece
for
this
in
terms
of
a
hearing
order.
R
I'm
aware
that
there's
sort
of
like
the
randomized
enforcement
there,
because
we're
essentially
testing
you
know
on
the
field.
Are
you
following
these
laws
or
not
what
other
methods,
besides
this
one
that
I'm
well
aware
of?
Could
we
do
moving
forward
to
sort
of
proactively
ensure
that
this
is
a
permanent
process
where
we're
permanently
doing
this?
R
Because
if
I'm
not
mistaken-
and
maybe
the
suffolk
kind
of
partnership
is
one,
but
my
understanding
is
the
partnership
with
suffolk
is
sort
of
a
level
of
time
or
a
period
of
time
where
they
will
do
these
sort
of
enforcement
techniques
of
going
through
the
processes
and
and
flagging
problems.
But
then
it
ends.
What
are
we
doing
to
proactively
ensure
that
we're
yearly
doing
this
from
here
until
eternity?
G
Well,
the
first
thing
is:
we
currently
have
a
re-up
in
our
budget
to
keep
this
going.
So
suffolk
will
be
doing
this
for
us
again
in
for
another
year,
and
we
are
we've
been
blessed
to
get
cbdg
funds
to
continue
to
do
this
and
believe
it
or
not.
G
What
is
being
yielded
from
this,
I
believe,
has
made
more
than
a
case
for
us
to
continue
getting
the
funding
that
we
need
in
order
to
do
this,
so
I
I
cannot
foresee
why
it
would
not
continue
council
to
be
very
honest
with
you,
because
it
has
proven
to
be
extremely
beneficial
to
our
office,
the
city
of
boston
and
hud,
as
well.
S
S
Suffix
actually
brought
on
a
specific
testing
coordinator
just
to
work
in
conjunction
with
our
office.
So
as
long
as
the
funding
allows,
we
want
to
basically
re-up
this
partnership
with
them
for
as
long
as
we
can
and
work
with,
the
testing
coordinator
just
keep
doing
testing
in
the
city
of
boston.
R
R
That's
that's
a
stain
on
the
city
and
as
far
as
moving
forward
and
how
we
do
that,
consider
my
office,
a
partner
in
making
sure
that
whatever
funding
is
required,
whatever
whatever
ordinances
or
things,
we
can
do
moving
forward
to
sort
of
really
take
a
bite
out
of
that
and
go
after
bad
actors.
I
I
think
that's
that
should
be
a
priority
for
the
city.
It's
certainly
a
priority
for
me
and
I
think
it's
clearly
a
priority
for
the
office
of
fair
housing
and
equity.
So
moving
forward.
R
T
Thank
you
manager
and
trying
to
thank
chief
dylan,
deputy
directors,
wright,
wilson,
bernstein
director
owen,
so
for
the
number
of
senior
members
that
have
that
are
on
this
budget
hearing,
and
let
me
first
start
by
saying
something
that
you
already
know
as
an
agency
you're
already
tasked
with
addressing
one
of
our
city's
most
pressing
issues,
which
is
affordable
housing
before
I
dive
in.
T
I
want
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
you
for
the
enormous
work
that
you
undertook
the
chief
during
the
pandemic
in
order
to
set
up
the
rental
relief
program
and
detensify
our
shelters,
and
so
so
much
more
so
you've
been
responsive
to
me
in
my
office
and
we've
consistently
been
impressed
with
your
entire
team's
dedication
and
passion
for
helping
our
city
get
out
from
under
this
pandemic.
And
so
with
that,
I
guess
I'd
like
to
know
deep.
T
Some
of
dnd's
priorities
with
respect
to
the
federal
relief
funding
city
council
has
created
a
new
committee,
and
I've
been
asked
by
my
colleagues
in
particular
council
president
o'malley,
to
lead
that
effort
as
chair
working,
obviously
with
my
colleagues
as
well
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
the
funding
to
folks
that
have
been
you
know,
decimated
by
covenant.
T
So
I'd
love
to
get
a
sense
of
what
d
and
d's
priorities
are
and
obviously
you're
an
offer
to
work
together
with
you
moving
forward
through
past
the
budget
process,
also
bha's
partnerships
with
bps
to
house
homeless,
families.
It's
extremely
important.
Does
this
budget
increase
the
amount
of
vouchers
available
to
our
homeless,
bps
families
and
also
our
elderly?
Do
we
have
have
we
targeted
the
amount
of
affordable
housing
that
we're
developing
for
seniors?
Our
seniors
are
inundated
almost
daily
with
cash
offers
for
their
homes,
and
it's
become
difficult
for
seniors,
particularly
fixed
income.
T
Seniors,
who
are
you
know,
house
rich
and
cash?
Poor
and
who've
made
the
city
what
it
is
today
to
remain
in
the
neighborhoods
that
they
love
due
to
the
cost
of
living
increases.
You
know
the
latest
round
of
property
tax,
it's
crippling
folks
and
then
on
the
home
ownership
side,
the
one
plus
program,
it's
an
amazing
program.
Last
year
there
were
247
applications
52
purchases.
Clearly
you
know,
I
think
we
need
more
lender
participation.
I
know
they're
not
sort
of,
I
guess
the
easiest
loans
to
close.
T
If
you
will,
but
you
know
if
we
can
continue
to
work
with
our
partnering
banks
to
expand
that
program.
I
think
we
would
be
well
served
and-
and
also
can
you
talk
about
the
first
generation
match
savings
program
and
what
type
of
outreach
you
know
enrollment.
Does
that
look
like
for
that
program
and
then
with
respect
to
real
estate
management
and
disposition
for
the
properties
that
are
listed
as
undevelopable?
T
Are
those
parcels
that
could
be
eligible
for,
say,
cpa
funds
through
the
new
open
space
acquisition
program?
Is
you
know-
and
I
don't
have
to
remind
everybody-
that
I'm
a
huge
supporter
of
the
cpa
and
so
happy
to
see
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
go
towards
affordable
housing
so
and
again,
sheila
into
your
team.
I
think
you
guys
have
done
a
great
job,
so
look
forward
to
continue
partnership
and
I'll,
listen
carefully
for
the
answers
to
some
of
the
questions
that
I
post
and
thank
you,
madam
chair.
D
D
We
we
have
been
working
in
and
really
we
have
got
a
lot
of
new
federal
funding,
which
is
exciting.
It's
one
time
it
has
to
tie
back
to
kobe
uses,
as
you
know,
we're
making
more
money
available
to
households
that
can't
pay
their
rent.
So
there
is
additional
resources
going
there.
Although
we
are
I'm
going
to,
let
lyla
just
quickly
talk
a
bit
about
how
we're
using
some
of
the
federal
funds
with
supporting
our
homeless
populations,
but
we
would
like
to
use
some
of
these
funds
also
for
for
permanent
solutions.
D
D
You
know
making
sure
people
stay
in
their
homes
or
use
the
money
for
one-time
acquisitions
or
or
opportunities
in
the
market
where
we
can
bring
on
additional
permanent,
supportive
housing
for
both
families
and
individuals.
But
before
I
move
on
the
other,
questions
live.
If
you
could
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
we're
spending
the
funding
for
our
homeless
populations,
the
federal
money
absolutely.
U
So
so
we
received
a
lot
of
different
buckets
of
federal
funding,
but
a
lot
of
it
is
targeted
to
responding
to
homelessness
and
primarily,
we've
been
allocating
that
to
housing
responses,
so
we're
we're
spending
the
majority
of
the
funds
out
the
door
in
one
of
the
buckets
that
comes
through
my
shop
on
rapid
rehousing,
which
is
short
and
medium
term
rental
assistance,
along
with
services
for
people
who
are
exiting
homelessness.
U
U
We've
stood
up
beds
for
people
fleeing
domestic
violence
and
for
families
that
aren't
currently
eligible
for
the
state
sheltering
system
and
then
we're
more
long-term.
We've
been
looking
at
acquisition
opportunities
for
acquiring
properties
that
could
be
that
could
be
permanent,
supportive
housing
for
households.
U
So
that's
yeah
that
that's
kind
of
the
buckets
we
can.
We
can
get
you
a
more
precise
breakdown
if
you'd
like
that,
but
that's
that's
more
or
less,
where
we're
spending
our
funding,
and
I
I
can
just
on
the
bps
families,
the
emergency
housing
vouchers
that
are
being
allocated
to
bha
sheila
mentioned
before
there
are
480
coming
in.
That's
also
part
of
the
relief
funding
or
recovery
funding.
I
guess
it's
called
now.
U
I
don't
know
rescue,
I
don't
know
which
one
it
is,
but
there
are
the
vouchers
that
just
got
allocated.
You
know
the
the
population
broadly
is
for
homeless
and
at
risk.
U
Households
I
think
bha
is,
is
considering
targeting
some
of
those
vouchers
for
families
who
are
in
the
bps
system
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
or
are
at
risk
of
homelessness,
so
that
hasn't
been
fully
determined
yet,
but
it's
a
decision,
that's
jointly
made
between
bha
and
the
continuum
of
care
body,
which
is
a
board
that
dha
dnd
convenes,
but
it
is
really
a
community
decision.
D
And
if
I
could
just
I'll
continue
and
see,
if
I
could
do
the
rapid
fire
answers,
but
thanks
lyla,
I
agree
with
you
counselor.
I
think
we
all
do
that.
We,
you
know
continue.
We
don't
have
enough
senior
housing,
especially
those
on
fixed
incomes,
and
I
mentioned
earlier
that
this
last
year
we
were
able
to
permit
just
shy
of
300
new
units,
which
is
not
enough.
D
I
will
be
the
first
to
admit
it,
but
we
haven't
had
a
senior
pipeline
for
so
we've
been
working
very,
very
hard
about
putting
out
sea
city
on
land
working
with
the
bha
on
new
sites,
etc.
So
we
we
are
happy
to
see
that
housing
come
on
on
online
and
start
and
start
construction
and
come
online.
So
in
any
ideas
that
the
the
city
council
has
on
addition,
other
sites
that
we
may
want
to
explore
for
senior
housing.
D
We
are
all
ears
because
we
really
do
want
to
continue
to
grow
that
pipeline
and
then
finally,
maureen
flynn
mentioned
the
first
gen
program.
We
are
working
with
maha,
we
are
and
we
are
getting
that
that
program.
The
information
on
that
program
through
nonprofits
through
our
home
buying
networks
through
banks
etc.
D
So
if
you
also
too,
if
there
is,
if
there's
a
way
that
you
want
to
help
us
promote
that
it's
a
fabulous
program,
it's
super
easy,
too.
You
know
save
some
money
get
two
for
one,
so
we
really
do
want
to
continue
we're
going
to
continue
funding
that
program.
So
if
we
can
work
with
you
on
getting
the
word
out
to
any
of
your
networks
or
non-profits,
we
really
would
love
to
do
that.
T
A
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
all
right,
I'll
jump
to
my
questions
now
and
then
we'll
do
a
quick
second
round
for
a
couple
of
counselors.
I
know
who
wanted
to
ask
a
couple
more
things,
but
yeah
so,
and
I
echo
everybody's
thanks
to
the
team-
and
you
know
I
the
I
was
actually
thinking
earlier.
A
I
think
I
know
the
answer
to
the
number
of
units
that
patricia
white
for
for
counselor
brayden,
but
I
yeah,
I
just
I
think,
from
the
bha
stuff
to
the
oneplus
boston
mortgage,
the
first
gen
they're,
just
so
many
things
that
that
you
know
I've
worked
on
as
an
advocate
and
as
a
counselor
that
I
see
you
guys
bringing
to
fruition
and
running
and
it
just
like
you
know
it's
we're
still
facing
a
housing
crisis
that
we
have
to
throw
the
kitchen
sink
at,
but
we're
certainly
throwing
the
kitchen
sink
at
it,
and
I'm
just
grateful
to
you
all
and
obviously
it's
our
job
on
the
political
side
to
get
you
more
resources
and
a
bigger
kitchen
sink
so
yeah.
A
I
guess
a
couple
of
questions
for
me.
One
is
just
something
I
know
is
moving,
but
I
just
would
love
a
quick
update
and
I
think
maybe
this
is
a
maureen
question,
but
on
the
co-op
front,
if
you
could
just
speak
to
both
the
revolving
fund
to
help
folks
with
share
loans
for
people
watching
at
home,
it
can
be
really
hard
for
people
without
lots
of
without
lots
of
resources
to
buy
in.
Even
though
co-op
shares
are
much
smaller
than
a
traditional
mortgage,
because
a
lot
of
banks
don't
finance
them,
it
can
be
tricky.
M
Sure
and
I'll
try
to
be
quick.
So
on
the
on
the
revolving
loan
fund,
we
are
partnering,
as
you
probably
know,
with
sartre
symphony
area,
something
something
trust
and
they
are
using
a
pot
of
money
to
begin
a
revolving
loan
fund.
That
will
work
a
lot
like
our
down
payment
assistance
program,
but
will
be
for
buyers
who
buy
into
co-ops
first-time
buyers
of
into
co-ops.
So
we're
putting
the
final
touches
on
the
agreement
and
hoping
to
to
start
that
program
up.
M
We
will
help
them
market
it
so
that
they
don't
have
to
market
it
alone,
and
so
we
think
that's
going
to
be
a
fabulous
program.
Secondly,
on
our
for
we've
done
we're
now
requiring
our
providers
of
housing
education
services
to
incorporate
a
module,
a
small
short
module
on
co-ops,
so
we've
done
a
train,
the
trainer
event
and
hired
someone
to
do
training
for
our
providers.
They
all
attended
and
we're
integrating
that
information
into
our
hb
101
classes
going
forward
beginning
in
the
new
fiscal
year.
M
We
will
also
be
doing
a
module
on
a
separate
workshop
on
co-ops
so
that,
if
anyone's
interested
in
the
cops
from
the
hp
101
classes,
they
can
go
into
a
workshop
and
learn
more
because
there's
a
lot
of
information.
Like
you
said
it's
it's
kind
of
new
and
different
than
your
traditional
buying
a
home.
So
so
we're
going
to
offer
a
workshop
a
repeating
workshop
for
those
folks
that
are
more
interested
did.
I
cover
both.
A
A
Great
okay,
wonderful
yeah!
I
just
would
love
to
stay
apprised
of
all
that
and
really
appreciate
the
progress
and
then
could
you
all
speak
a
little
bit?
Oh
actually!
Well,
I
guess.
A
Actually
let
me
let
me
ask
a
quick
question
to
will,
which
is
just
and
it's
kind
of
it's
kind
of
following
up
on
what
council
royal
was
saying,
I
mean
to
me:
there's
a
long-term
benefit
to
people
in
the
city,
specifically
landlords
in
the
city,
perceiving
that
fair
housing
testing
is
something
we
the
city
routinely
do
and
that
we're
you
know
cycling
through
different
types
of
discrimination
and
others,
because
just
like
frankly,
the
chances
that,
like
people
sense,
that
there
is
a
chance
that
they
will
be
apprehended
affects
their
behavior,
and
I
think
it's
really
good
to
hear
that
you
guys
are
pursuing,
like
with
the
attorney
general's
office,
some
active
students,
because
I
think,
certainly
when
seattle
did,
that
it
helped
get
a
bunch
of
people
to
correct
their
behavior.
A
But
seattle
also
went
on
to
sort
of
create
an
in-house
effort.
That
routinely
does
this
to
kind
of
make
it
stick,
and
so
I
don't
hear
us
going
in
that
direction
yet,
and
so
I
just
like
to
know
a
little
bit
about
how
you
guys
thought
about
that
about
a
road
to
an
in-house
thing
and
then
can
you
just
clarify
for
me.
I
think
I
still
haven't
quite
tracked
it.
A
G
Then
we
will
recontract
with
suffolk
for
two
well,
we
got
to
200
000
that
we
would
use
to
recontract
with
them
to
do
the
same
amount
of
testing.
G
Yeah
I
mean
the
250
we
what
originally
what
happened
was
it
was
for
something
like
200
or
so,
and
then
we
upped
it.
We
said
you
know
what
let
us
get
about
100
tests
out
of
it,
so
we
upped
it.
We
threw
another
50
000
at
it
in
order
to
bring
it
full
cycle,
so
it
would
match
exactly
what
they
did
last
year
in
this
upcoming
year.
A
Got
it
and
will
we
cycle
through
different
types
of
like?
Obviously,
you
have
to
send
different
types
of
matched
pairs
to
test
for
different
discrimination
against
different
protected
classes,
and
are
we
working
on
that
and
then
also?
I
know
we
saw
really
high
discrimination
against
transgender
individuals,
and
I
think
just
that
that
you
know
it
can
be
tricky
to
get
a
big
enough
population
to
test
for
that.
So
just
wondering
if
that's
on
our
radar
too.
G
So
I'll,
let
andrew
touch
on
that
in
a
moment,
but
how
we
intend
to
do
it
is
the
beautiful
thing
is
that
we
can
switch
our
testing
at
any
given
moment
counselor.
As
you
rightfully
asked
right,
we
can
test
for
any
of
the
14
protected
classes
on
any
scenario
we
want,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
leg
room
to
switch
up
our
testing
to
make
sure
that
we're
testing
for
all
the
different
protected
classes.
G
Right
now
we
just
happen
to
focus
on
race
and
voucher
discrimination
discrimination,
because
that
was
the
one
that
you
know
punched
really
hard
last
year.
But
to
answer
your
question,
we
can
switch
it
up
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
andrew,
because
andrew
oversees,
all
the
investigations.
S
Yeah
I'll
just
add
in
that
will's
absolutely
correct:
we're
not
further
mla
with
suffolk,
we're
not
locked
into
the
race
and
voucher
focus
of
the
studies.
That's
basically,
we
agreed
that
that
would
be
the
focus
of
this
current
testing
round,
but
they've
made
it
clear
that
if
we
want
to
switch
up
the
protected
costs
being
tested,
we
just
have
to
request
it.
S
So,
for
example,
under
the
the
race
testing
that
started
again
not
going
into
too
much
detail
because
of
confidentiality,
but
we
started
with
mostly
african
american
race-based
testing,
but
because
of
the
rise
in
hate
crimes
against
aapi
people,
we've
started.
Contra
they've
started
doing
some
testing
in
our
request
to
do
race
testing
based
on
asian
testers,
with
the
control
test
or
being
caucasian.
S
So
there
is
flexibility
there
and
we
have
talked
about
it
informally
with
them.
There
aren't
solid
plans,
but
we
could
put
gender
identity
or
gender
expression
asks
one
of
the
requested
protected
classes
to
be
tested.
It
would
just
be
a
matter
of
us
putting
that
to
suffolk
and
they
would
formulate
the
tests.
A
G
And
to
add
to
that,
I
believe
you
asked
about
seattle.
The
thing
with
seattle
is
that
we
are
substantially
equivalent
to
hud
and
like
see
even
in
in
years
ago.
Back
in,
I
want
to
say
back
in
the
80s
counselor,
we
city
of
boston
did
have
its
own
testing
program,
but
over
time
it
faded
out
the
beautiful
thing
with
us
doing
it.
G
The
way
we're
doing
it
now
is
that,
even
though
we
are
fat
hud
is
excuse,
me
suffolk
is
a
fit
and
we're
all
under
the
same
parent
company,
if
you
will,
which
is
hud
right,
so
any
contract
we
have
currently
that
exists
with
suffolk
school
of
law,
hud
oversees
it
to
make
sure
that
it.
You
know,
because
both
agencies
report
to
hud
that
it's
legit
and
it
follows
certain
guidelines.
G
Another
thing
to
add
to
it
is
that,
even
though
we
don't
have
our
own
per
se,
it
it
gets
rid
of
the
perception
or
video
when
we
bring
people
in
meaning
folks
who
are
violators
or
who
have
engaged
in
discriminatory
practices,
it
gets
rid
of
them
saying.
Well,
you
know
the
city
of
boston
is
biased
against
me,
because
it's
done
completely
by
a
third
party,
an
independent
third
party
right,
so
it
gets
rid
of
that
argument
and
it
really
points
to
a
pattern
in
practice.
A
Yeah,
no,
that
makes
sense-
I
guess
it
just.
It
does
seem
like
for
the
long
run,
we'll
probably
have
to
ramp
up
some
capacity
if
we
want
to
regularly
do
enforcement
actions
since
obviously
that's
not
something
that
suffolk
can
do
for
us.
So,
yes,
more
more
conversation
to
come,
but
it's
exciting
that
we're
doing
this
and
that
we're
re-upping
the
contract-
and
I
just
I
think
it's
so
important.
A
It's
it's
such
a
persistent
barrier
and
contributes
so
much
to
the
segregation
of
our
communities
and-
and
you
know
in
when
we
did
when
we
made
the
change
for
the
federal
vouchers
to
small
area,
fair
market
rent,
we
really
removed
a
lot
of
the
price
excuse
on
this
front,
and
so
what
you're
left
with
is
just
the
discrimination,
and
so
it's
very
good
to
be
working
on
this.
A
C
Yes,
you
hear
me:
yes,
I'm
okay,
I
was
scared.
I
apologize
just
following
up
on.
Can
you
see
me
now?
Okay,
just
following
up
on
second
round
questions,
I
wanted
to
talk
about
whether
the
city
has-
and
I
know
frank,
touched
a
great
deal
about
acquisition
of
properties.
C
I
I'm
interested
more
in
being
more
aggressive
and
when
properties
are
coming
up
for
auction,
as
you
saw
with
the
what
you
call
the
loftel
in
east
boston
and
with
those
opportunities
I
mean
literally
just
competing
on
the
open
market.
I
feel
like
the
city
could
compete,
maybe
not
dollar
for
dollar,
but
you
also
can
come
with
a
whole
bunch
of
other
benefits
to
come
as
a
package
deal.
C
If
you,
if
you
sell
to
the
city
of
boston,
the
process
could
move
faster,
we
could
help
with
zoning
or
yeah
help
with
permitting
in
a
way,
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
develop
a
program
that
that
allows
for
us
to
compete
on
the
market
and
come
with
a
packet.
I
don't
expect
us
to
win
every
single
deal,
but
I
mean
jessica
was
you
know,
so
thank
you
so
much
for
being
so
responsive
to
that,
but
I
really
do
want
us
to
think
about
how
we
can
move
when
these
opportunities
come
up.
C
It's
it's
a
huge
building
already,
you
know,
was
supposed
to
be
a
hotel.
It's
gone
somewhat
in
the
bankruptcy,
not
a
bankruptcy,
but
the
auction
may
have
been
canceled,
but
if
it
does
come
back
up
again,
could
the
city
be
in
a
position
to
offer
a
package?
So
that's
one
thing,
I'm
wondering-
and
I
I
know
that
we've
worked
extremely
hard
on
streamlining
and
working
with
homelessness,
homeless
populations.
C
I
am.
This
is
kind
of
layla.
If
you
just
give
an
update.
This
is
not
a
criticism
at
all.
I
know
how
incredibly
hard
you
work.
So
if
you
could,
if
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
homelessness
programming
and
recovery
services
and
how
or
how
we
pipeline
from
places
like
mass
and
cass
and
and
we
account
for
the
recovery
and
the
housing
needs
of
those
individuals,
you
know
I
have
a
methadone
clinic
near
my
house.
C
So
this
is
not
to
call
out
any
particular
community
or
any
particular
I'm
not
trying
to
create
or
add
to
the
stigma.
I
just
think
when
the
housing
needs
of
people
who
are
in
recovery
might
be
different,
and
how
are
we
making
sure
that
we're
hitting
both
needs?
So
those
are
my
follow-ups.
D
I
so
I'll
I'll
just
respond
to
the
acquisitions.
I
am
in
full
agreement
that
we
need
to
get
we're
not
going
to
win
everyone
right.
There's
just
a
lot
of
very
wealthy
people
out
there
with
with
seems,
like
sometimes
endless
amounts
of
money.
Although
I
do
you
know,
we've
been
talking
internally,
we
work
with
a
lot
of
non-profits
to
do
acquisitions,
but
sometimes
they
don't
have
an
interest
in
it.
It's
too
big
for
them
or
for
whatever
reason
it
doesn't
fit
their
their
profile.
So
I
I
do.
D
I
would
like
to
see
the
city
figure
out
how
we
could
be
more
of
a
a
player
with
acquisitions.
I
know
similar
conversations
are
going
on
at
the
bpda.
I
won't
speak
for
them
this,
the
dnd's,
the
way
that
we're
set
up
our
charter
limits,
what
we
can
and
cannot
do
if
we
have
a
real
estate
interest
in
something
we
can't,
but
I
I
would
love
to
you-
know,
work
with
you
on
that
and
see
if
we
can't
figure
figure
that
out
like
who
can
do
acquisitions.
D
When
for
how
much
I
do
I'm
hoping
that
opportunities
come
our
way.
We
were
hopeful
not
that
that
we
want
a
falling
out
of
the
real
estate
market,
but
that
things
were
starting
to
things
were
starting
to
get
a
little
shakier
and
there
might
have
been
some
good
opportunities
and
that
seems
to
be
drying
up,
but
I
do
think
we
should
be
ready
if
the
market
gets
at
all
soft
or
there's
a
there's,
the
one-offs,
so
I'd
love
to
work
with
your
office
on
this.
I
think
we
should
look
at
it.
U
Yeah,
I
mean
it's
a
it's
a
really
important
question
and
one
that
we
all
struggle
with.
U
Is
you
know
how
to
support
people
who
are
both
dealing
with
housing,
instability
and
a
serious
substance
use
disorder,
and
I
actually
think
the
housing
need
isn't
that
different
than
anyone
else,
but
the
service
need
is,
and
so
that's
something
that
we
are
working
on
in
coordination
with
the
office
of
recovery
services
and
we're
actually
looking
into
funding
a
team
that
would
be
really
well
coordinated
and
embedded
with
the
work
that's
already
happening
in
mass
cast,
but
would
be
housing
focused,
and
so
they
would
kind
of
join
the
partners.
U
There
are
a
lot
of
partners
out
there,
but
I
think
that
we
could
have
a
team,
that's
housing,
focus
and
well
integrated,
so
that
people
are
gaining
access
to
housing
alongside
of
gaining
access
to
recovery
services
at
the
same
time,
because
I
it's
almost
like-
if,
if
both
aren't
moving
forward,
either
one
might
fail-
and
so
I
I
do
think,
that's
part
of
what
the
struggle
is.
We
kind
of
have
two
under
under-resourced
responses,
not
working
not
working
as
well
for
people
either.
U
One
of
them
not
working
as
strongly
as
I
could
and
not
as
coordinated
as
it
could
be,
and
so
we
are,
we
are
looking
to
invest
some
of
the
federal
funding
that
we
have
in
hand
now
to
improve
that,
but
it
it's
it's
really
massive.
The
need
is
really
massive
and-
and
it's
not
just
at
mass
cass,
it's
kind
of
across
the
city
across.
C
The
state
right-
and
I
I
just
wanna
and
that's
why
I
wasn't
at
all
a
criticism
of
the
incredible
amount
of
work.
You
were
doing
just
an
update,
just
a
question
and
update,
and
I
look
forward
to
if
you,
if
you
want
in
any
way
shape
or
form
I'd
love
to
be
there
to
get
and
help
with
some
updates.
On
that.
C
I
think,
as
you
mentioned,
and
again,
I
didn't
mean
to
create
any
stigma,
but
your
the
services
are
necessary
and
I'll
give
a
shout
out
to
jessica
and
the
other
members
of
the
nht.
C
We,
I
think
we
one
of
the
projects
we
recently
funded
was
that
kind
of
co-living
healing
place
from
pine
street
right
that
had
market-based
housing,
middle
market,
housing
and
also
homeless,
formerly
homeless,
housing
majority
of
it
was,
and
people
were,
they
were
using
that
new
housing
model
showed
kitchens
and
stuff
as
a
place
to
heal
as
well
from
recovery,
so
that
I
think
that's
an
example
of
maybe
things
we
can
continue
to
fund
and
grow
and
and
help,
and
I
just
I
wanted
to
give
a
shout
out
to
donald
the
you
went
through
a
huge
amount
of
the
diversity,
outreach
and
pipelines
for
your
contracting
right
and,
and
I
I
I'm
sure
they
either
are
close
to
or
meeting
the
executive
order.
C
I
think
that
former
mayor
walsh
signed
on
his
way
out
there,
and
I
just
want
to
give
you
it's
definitely
higher
than
the
other
departments
in
terms
of
the
the
pipelines.
Are
you
going
to
be
offering
and
continue
to
offer
again?
There
was
that
training
you
did
for
minority
contractors,
and
it
was.
It
was
a
contract
like
the
gc
contract
training
that
that
the
office
of
economic
development
does
it
was
about
navigating
the
city
system
literally
a
whole
okay.
F
Right
that
was
the
well.
We
had
done
a
number
of
workshops
over
the
years
to
to
increase
our
nbwb
procurement,
and
so
we
realized
that
we
had
to
create
what
didn't
exist
and
really
taking
the
time
to
provide
the
technical
assistance
that
folks
needed
and
we
needed
to
create
the
platform
in
doing
that,
and
so
part
of
it
was
initially
doing
a
joint
venture
contract.
So
we
could
talk
about.
You
know
how
teams
could
come
together,
but
then
that
next
workshop
that
we
did
was
literally
going
through
a
bid.
F
You
know
a
a
legitimate
contract,
and
so
I
what
came
out
of
that
was.
We
realized
that
technical
assistance
was
going
to
be
something
that
had
to
be
part
of
the
overall
process,
and
so
we
work
closely
with
oed
on
literally
all
the
tools
and
resources
that
they
have
and
as
contractors
come
to
us,
we
take
them
literally
when
we
were
in
the
building.
F
We
walked
them
right
down
to
to
stacy
william's
office
down
in
oed,
but
we
have
a
great
team
and
I
think
it's
not
just
me
it's
our
entire
team
to
the
boots
on
the
ground,
who
really
want
to
make
these
opportunities
equitable
for
folks,
and
so
we
hear
it
all
the
time
that
these
opportunities,
don't
ex,
don't
exist,
and
so
what
we
do
is
just
dispel
a
myth.
So,
but
we
are
working
with
oed
and
that's
to
that
point
to
continue
with
programming
on
ta,
but
also
certification
as
well.
A
Great
thank
you.
Counselor
edwards
counselor,
savvy
george.
O
I
thank
you
ma'am
chair
and
thank
you
everyone.
Just
it's
been
a
very
thorough
and
thoughtful
and
informative
hearing
today
on
sort
of
the
sort
of
complex
work
and
in-depth
work
that
you
all
do
and
just
as
a
continuation
of
what
council
edwards
was
just
asking
about,
especially
around
the
challenges
of
homelessness
and
substance,
use,
disorder
and
mental
health
where
they
sort
of
all
intersect.
O
You
know,
and
I
think
the
last
remark
there
around
it
being
a
regional,
really,
a
regional
crisis
and
the
city
of
boston
is
working
to
support
residents
from
many
residents
from
outside
of
the
city
of
boston.
We've
done
the
you
know,
community
of
origin
study,
and
I
know
that
continues
to
increase,
and
you
know
we
will.
We
are
as
a
city
committed
to
caring
for
individuals
who
come
to
our
city,
and
you
know.
Certainly
we
see
the
impacts
on
that
continuum
of
care.
O
We
see
the
sort
of
the
the
challenges
of
that
continuum
of
care,
because
the
services
aren't
it's
not
a
coordinated
continuum
of
care.
The
challenges
of
you
know
really
existing
in
in
silos.
I
would
I'd
love
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
the
community
of
origin
data,
where
we
are
today
when
we
think
about
individuals
who
are
accessing
our
continuum
of
care,
and
I'm
really
happy
to
hear
that
we're
looking
to
invest
some
some
of
the
federal
dollars
coming
in
on
this
effort.
D
Data
I
was
going
to
ask
lila
if
she
wanted
to
talk
about
me
and
maybe
lila
just
I
would
just
maybe
30
seconds
on
some
of
the
work
we've
been
doing
with
the
state
recently
on
discharge
planning
which,
because
it
really
does
feed
into
that
yep.
U
O
U
I
I
I
couldn't
say
that
it's
declined
I
would
have
to
like
when
we
pull
it
from
different
kind
of
populations.
It
comes
from
different
places.
I
know
it's
still
over
50
50,
so.
V
U
Don't
think
we've
pulled
it
during
covid,
so
we
could
do
that
and
see
if
there's
been
some
kind
of
change
based
on
kind
of
response
to
the
pandemic.
I
think
sheila
is
referring
to
some
work.
I
mean
that
the
the
state
has
made
some
changes
in
their
shelter
policy
on
for
single
adults
and
they
have
made
a
rule
that
shelters
are
not
supposed
to
be
they're,
not
supposed
to
be
excluding
people
based
on
their
community
of
origin.
U
We
never
have
in
boston
as
you
know,
but
there
are
many
communities
that
target
their
shelter
to
people
who
are
have
ties
to
their
community
and
they're
not
supposed
to
do
that
anymore.
So
maybe
that
will
help,
but
I
I
don't
know
if
we've
we've
seen
much
change
there.
U
So,
in
addition,
you
know
we're
we're
working
on
other
discharge
issues
like
discharges
from
hospitals
and
other
institutions
to
to
improve
that,
because
you
know
there's
a
huge
number
of
people
who
are
coming
out
of
institutions
who
end
up
in
shelter
and
if
there's
no
shelter
available
in
their
community
of
origin,
they
may
end
up
in
boston.
O
Yeah
it'd
be
interesting
to
know
what
what
communities
were
not
welcoming
non-residents
or
non-locals
into
their
shelter
system,
and
you
know
it
would
also
be
interesting
to
look
at
that.
The
community
of
origin
data
to
see
which
communities
have
large
representations
of
individuals
who
are
utilizing
our
services
and
again,
I
want
to
make
it
very
clear.
This
isn't
about
not
wanting
to
take
care
of
people.
We
need
support.
O
We
need
help
because
that
continuum
of
care,
our
system
of
care
here
in
the
city
of
boston,
is,
I
think,
it's
more
than
just
a
burdened
pressurized
system.
I
think
it's
very
much
a
broken
system
of
care
and
we
just
need
additional
resources
and
additional
help
to
do
this
work.
While
we're
utilizing,
I
think,
those
federal
resources
to
find
individuals,
recovery
and
wellness
and
supportive
housing,
and
all
that.
O
So
I
don't
know
if
anyone
could
speak
a
little
bit
to
some
of
the
briefly
to
some
of
the
federal
monies
and
what
we're
anticipating
to
see,
and
especially
when
we're
thinking
about
those
experiencing
homelessness
and
substance,
use
disorder.
U
Well,
so
I
guess
I'm
I'm,
including
the
vouchers
that
just
came
to
bha
in
that
and,
like
I
said
we
are
not
a
sole
decision
maker
in
in
that,
but
we
are
advocating
that
some
of
those
vouchers
be
targeted
to
people
who
are
staying
outside,
and
so
that
would
include
people
who
are
staying
at
mass
cast
and
who
are
struggling
with
substance
use
disorders.
U
You
know
the
bulk
of
our
spending
in
at
dnd,
with
the
federal
dollars
have
been
on
housing
responses
and
and
services,
and
so
I
you
know,
we
don't
exactly
know
exactly.
U
You
know
what
situation
people
are
in,
but
I
we
know
that
a
lot
of
the
people
who
are
receiving
housing
and
service
support
from
those
dollars
are
struggling
with
substance
use
disorders
and
and
mental
health
disabilities,
and
so,
though,
you
know
the
the
trick
is
to
continue
to
coordinate
with
other
systems
that
also
have
more
potentially
more
robust
and
more
expert,
more
robust
services
and
more
expertise
in
those
areas.
O
Great,
thank
you
layla.
Thank
you
lyla
and,
chill
and
again
the
rest
of
your
team.
P
I
just
have
two
questions:
I'm
just
curious
what,
if
any
efforts
are
being
made
for
housing
for
recent
graduates?
Specifically,
if
we
can
talk,
if
there's
any
opportunities
for
bha
students
who
are
graduating
from
college,
is
there
a
pipeline
to
help
support
them
with
their
housing
needs?
P
And
I'm
also
curious
about
you
know
in
boston.
We
need
to
have
a
boston
jobs,
residency
requirement,
but
unfortunately
we
can't
afford
to
live
in
the
city
anymore.
So
we
are
always
struggling
to
reach
our
goals
here
in
the
city
of
boston,
and
so
I'm
curious
what
efforts
are
being
made
and
I'm
thinking
specifically
just
you
know
not
all
types
of
job
opportunities,
but
I'm
also
thinking
about
some
of
our
educators
as
well,
and
some
housing
for
our
educators,
who
are
right
now
can't
afford
to
live
in
the
city
that
they're
teaching
in.
D
So
I'm
not
aware
of
any
program
I
mean
if,
if
college
students
college
grad
recent
college
graduates
are
income
qualified
they
can
obtain,
they
can
get
into
lotteries.
They
can
as
long
as
they're,
not
not
no
longer
full-time
students,
they
can
access
it's
a
little
early,
probably
for
them
to
buy
a
home,
but
they
can
access
all
of
our
housing
programs.
But
I'm
not
aware
of
any.
D
Long,
well,
that's
the
bha,
but
our
lotteries
are
happening
all
the
time
and-
and
you
know
people
can-
and
I
do
know
that
some
graduates
that
are
working
and
they
don't
have
make
a
whole
lot
of
money-
are-
are
being
successful
in
our
lotteries
because
I'm
dealing
with
issues
related
to
them.
But
you
know
if,
if
there
are,
we
certainly
want
to
retain
our
students
and
we
don't
want
them
necessarily.
D
You
know
like
in
my
neighborhood
there's
four
or
five
recent
college
graduates,
all
living
in
an
apartment
and
they're
taking
units
out
of
out
of
the
family
housing
inventory.
So
you
know
I
there
has
been.
I
think
the
bpta
has
been
very
interested
in
having
developers,
although
sometimes
it's
not
very
popular,
developing
smaller
units,
much
smaller
units
compact
units
that
are
less
expensive,
that
recent
college
graduates
that
don't
want
to
live
with
a
lot
of
other
students
or
recent
graduates
can
access.
P
Yeah,
so
maybe
maybe
I
think
be-
I
was
looking
specifically
for
bha
students,
so
maybe
I
I
can
just
follow
up
with
kate,
just
yeah.
P
D
Okay,
oh,
I
see
college
students
that
are
graduating
out
of
public
housing.
Okay
right,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
family
self-sufficiency
and
there
might
be
something
there
for
students,
but
right,
yeah
yeah,
please,
please
follow
up
if
you
run
into
a
roadblock,
we'll
be
glad
to
help.
P
Absolutely
and
then
can
we
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
kind
of
workforce
development,
housing.
I'm
thinking
about
some
of
our
educators
in
particular,
who
are
struggling
to
to
stay
here
in
the
city,
but
they're
teaching
here
right.
D
So
I
will
say
that
we're
we
do
work
with
a
lot
of
city
employees
across
the
board
on
our
housing
programs.
There
are
a
lot
of
city
employees
in
our
in
our
and
maureen.
Can
I
I
don't
know
if
we
have
an
exact
number,
we
might
be
able
to
get
something
to
you,
but
we
do
I
mean
I
work.
D
We
always
have
a
lot
of
cases
because
a
lot
of
city
employees
they
know
how
to
reach
out
for
help,
because
they're
they've
they've
learned
about
the
programs,
and
we
are
always
very,
very
happy
to
help
them
so
with
down
payment
or
rent
a
rear
edge
or
housing
search.
There's
sometimes
we
have
you
know
in
the
city
of
boston.
We
have
you
know
employees
that
are
not
making
a
lot
of
money
and
then
need
help
finding
you
know
a
more
moderately
priced
unit,
so
all
of
our
programs
are
open
to
city
employees
maureen.
D
M
There
actually
there's,
we
don't
have
something
specifically
for
them.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
bt
s
employ
bps
employees
taking
advantage
of
oneplus
there's
a
non-profit
called
landed
that
has
decided
to
come
into
the
city
of
boston
and
they
they're
in
washington
and
colorado,
and
I
think
california,
they
are
doing
a
special
down
payment
assistance.
Program.
Kind
of
an
equi
equity
share
down
payment
assistance
program
for
educators,
so
they
they
have
offered
their
program
to
bps
employees
and
they're
about
to
extend
it
to
city
employees
as
well.
M
So
we're
working
with
folks
over
at
city
hall
to
figure
out
how
to
advertise
that
program.
So
I
believe
the
landed
program
should
be
on
the
bps
webpage
as
as
a
benefit
so
we're
trying
to
get
that
listed
on
the
city.
Employee
benefit
page
as
well,
and.
D
If
I
just
had
one
thing,
I
know
that
this
year
it
wasn't
in
the
deck
but
maureen,
and
I
and
others
have
been
talking
about
how
do
we
help?
How
do
we
help
folks
that
want
to
buy
a
home,
but
that
have
a
lot
of
student
debt?
And
that
is
you
know
there
are
some
programs
being
piloted
in
other
cities,
and
so
we
really
want
to
explore
that
we're
working
with
the
housing
eye
lab
on
that
as
well
and
modem.
I
believe,
but
we'd
love,
you'd
love.
D
You
know
to
circle
back
with
you
or
anyone
on
the
council.
That's
interested
in
that
because
there's
you
know:
people
want
to
buy
homes,
we
want
them
to
buy
homes,
but
because
they're,
you
know
they
didn't
come
from
in
the
they
didn't
come
from
wealthy
parents
and
they
had
to
take
out
a
significant
amount
of
debt
to
get
through
college.
They
now
find
it
very
difficult,
so
we
really
do
want
to
tackle
that
problem
in
the
upcoming
year
years.
M
And
counselor
we
did
start
a
home
buying
club
at
the
whittier
street
public
housing
development.
We
will
replicate
that
wherever
you
want
us
to
and
and
do
like
a
financial
literacy
credit
component
for
recent
grads.
If
you
want
to
explore
that
we'd
love
to
do
that,
absolutely.
P
And
maybe
we
could
take
that
into
the
boston,
public
schools
and
and
work
with
our
you
know
seniors,
not
our
you
know
our
high
school
seniors
too.
We
would
love
to
do
that.
Yeah,
okay,
I'm
gonna,
get
I'm
gonna
pick.
I'm
gonna
reach
out
to
you.
Okay,
okay,.
A
D
N
Sure
so
we
are,
we
have
been
seriously
working
on
it
and
the
bha
is
has
conducted.
You
know,
studies
of
all
of
the
properties
where
they
believe
that
there
is
potential
for
development.
N
N
You
know
tenants
that
maybe
are
in
a
low
income,
housing
tax
credit
uni
unit
but
they're
below
the
60
percent
threshold.
So
the
rent
is
a
stretch
for
them
or
property
owners
who
have
market
rate
units
that
are
interested
in
using
the
fair
class
opportunity
as
a
way
to
provide
more
affordability.
N
N
So
dnd's
been
particularly
focused
on
that,
since
we
have
a
lot
of
the
landlord
relationships
in
the
private
market
and
I'm
hoping
that
we'll
have
a
report
on
that
to
give
to
you
with
some
hard
dates
really
really
soon.
And
then
we
can
look
at
some
of
the
bigger
new
development
opportunities
as
well.
But
it
feels
like
you
know,
as
it's
been
very
important
to
you
and
as
you
have
really
championed
and
pushed,
we
do
want
to
get
the
resource
out
there
for
existing
residents
to
work
on
anti-displacement
stuff
as
fast
as
possible.
N
So
that
will
probably
be
the
first
public
document.
That'll
go
out,
making
the
the
the
fair
class
subsidy
available
and
then
followed
by
some
of
the
new
development.
A
Yeah
and
just
I
would
just
underscore
definitely
interested
along
the
same
lines
as
councilor
edwards
and
the
sort
of
acquisition
opportunities
at
a
bigger
scale,
and
that
question
of
you
know
if
it's
the
bpda
that
has
to
do
to
swooping
in,
I
think
that's
fine
I've.
I've
filed
a
thing
about
how
we
should
use
their
tools
more
aggressively
as
it
is.
A
It
would
just
be
helpful
to
understand
yeah,
because
it
seems
it
seems
to
me
like
that,
like
that's
something
where
we
should
actually
be
able
to
act
as
like
a
large
capital
holder
as
the
city
and
like
the
federal
opportunities,
there's
a
good
good
opportunity
with
federal
funds
to
be
talking
about
that
right
now,.
N
Definitely-
and
I
just
I
will
add-
also
on
that
same
note-
sort
of
with
fair
class,
my
my
team
has
all
been
getting
sort
of
trained
and
up
to
speed
on
how
it
works
so
that
as
larger
projects
come
into
us,
particularly
larger
projects
that
involve
preservation
of
existing
units,
we've
been
trying
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
to
sort
of
analyze
whether
they
might
be
a
good
way
to
to
leverage
that
resource,
and
I
think
now
that
there's
more
federal
dollars
at
play
we'll
be
able
to
do
that
even
more
as
we
look
at
opportunities
come
in,
but
really
excited
about
working
with
with
you
all
on
on
sort
of
how
to
think
about
acquisitions.
A
Yeah
no-
and
I
think
obviously
you
know
we
were-
we
were
already
thinking
about
the
kind
of
fair
cloth
to
rad
pathway
and
now
hud
has
started
sort
of
smoothing
that
pathway
a
bit
which
is
helpful
so
and
which
we
know
makes
it
a
lot
more
sustainable.
So
that's
great
yeah.
I
sorry
I
realize
I'm
speaking
a
lot
of
lingo,
but
for
those
watching
at
home.
This
is
about
more
deeply
affordable
units
in
the
city
of
boston
and
using
existing
federal
dollars
that
we
could
access
to
make
it
happen.
A
Okay,
I
think
I
can
ask
dnd
questions
all
day,
but
I
think
that
that
probably
is
what
we
have
for
now.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all.
So
much
again,
I
we
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
staff
capacity
on
this
call,
I'm
grateful
to
you
all
and
grateful
for
the
things.
If
you
came
and
we
didn't
even
ask
you
about
it,
you
know
we.
A
D
No,
I
well
I
of
course
I
will.
I
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
partnership
over
a
very
very
difficult
year.
We
continue
to
want
to
help
you
and
your
constituents
so
please
reach
out.
I
always
take
a
lot
of
notes
in
these
hearings
and
and
there's
some
really
good
ideas
that
came
out
today
that
and
that's
how
it
should
be
right.
D
We
should
be
exchanging
ideas
and
usually
letting
us
know
of
of
gaps
in
what
we're
doing
so
look
forward
to
following
up
on
a
lot
of
what
I
heard
today,
thanks.
G
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
all
the
counselors.
Thank
you
to
you,
counselor
bach,
for
holding
this
session
again.
If
there's
anything,
we
can
do
any
questions
you
have
for
us.
Please
feel
free
to
ask
me.
One
thing
I
will
certainly
do
is
once
our
report
is
done.
I
will
send
it
to
all
the
counselors,
so
you
guys
can
see
all
the
work
we've
been
working
on.
G
You
will
see
a
breakdown
of
the
discrimination
report
district
to
district
council
district
to
council
district,
so
you'll
have
a
full
scope
of
what's
actually
happening
in
the
city
of
boston
and
if
anyone
has
any
questions
or
any
thoughts,
anything
that
they
would
like
us
to
do
or
investigate,
please
send
it
my
way
and
I
will
glad
I'll
be
glad
to
do
it
for
you.
Thank
you.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
well
and
I'm
sorry.
This
is
anti-climactic,
but
one
quick
thing
just
just
remembered,
which
is
well
one
thing
would
just
be.
It
would
be
great
if
we
could
just
get
the
breakdown
of
the
federal
funds
at
the
end.
You
could
folks
keep
asking
me
about
that
and
I've
sort
of
seen
them
all,
but
I
don't
actually
have
that
on
like
a
one
pager.
So
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
get
that,
because.
A
Federal
funds,
it's
helpful
for
people
to
know
oh
yeah.
This
much
really
is
going
to
rental
relief
into
homeless
and
like
and
things
that
we
know
we
need
to
do
so.
If
we
can
get
that
from
you
all
and
then
does
the
fact
that
you're
coordinating
with
the
state
around
advertising
mean
that
we
also
have
kind
of
looped
in
with
them
about
their
rental
relief
program
and
making
sure
that
bostonians
are
eligible
and
such
things.
D
We
meet
with
the
state
every
monday,
although
we
had
to
cancel
today
at
4
30
to
go
over
coordination,
any
issues.
We
need
a
tighter
agenda
for
those
meetings,
but
we
do
meet
with
jennifer
maddock
and
their
a
f
in
the
governor's
office
every
monday.
So
if
there
are
issues
you're
experiencing
with
raft,
whatever
get
them
to
us
and
then
we
will
get
them
over
to
to
power
speed.
D
A
Wonderful,
all
right,
so
sorry
the
little
coda
there,
but
thank
you
all
again
and
now
I
will
take
public
testimony
so
folks,
who
are
here
to
testify,
I'm
going
to
be
letting
you
in.
A
Michael
kane,
sorry
I'm
trying
to
get
john
labella
over
and
then
cassie
heard
michael.
A
All
right,
what
about
michael
will
come
back
to
you
if
you
pick
up
in
a
sec,
john
john
labella,.
H
Sure
I'm
I'm
here,
can
you
hear
me
yeah?
Can
I
share
my
screen
or
do
you
just
want
numbers
and
a
face
can
see.
A
You
can
share
your
screen
just
if
it's
as
long
as
it's
well.
What
is
it.
H
H
Of
course,
I'm
here
in
support
of
the
rental
subsidy
coalition,
but
also
I
have
a
little
bit
of
data
from
housing
works.
There
are
three,
I
think
things
that
no
one
knows,
but
us
that
we
want
to
pass
on
to
you
as
you
talk
about
the
budget
for
the
rental
subsidy
right
now,
my
company's
running
five
lotteries
this
year,
and
this
is
the
data
from
one
that
ended
today.
So
far
there
are
4
500
people
in
it.
75
of
them
are
under
40
percent.
H
Ami
they're
nine
percent
have
vouchers,
which
means
the
vast
majority
of
people
will
only
qualify
for
the
low
income
units.
We're
talking,
then
about
almost
three
thousand
people
buying
for
seven
units.
This
has
gotten
worse
in
the
last
15
years,
since
we
were
doing
wait
lists.
So
the
the
point
of
it
is
nothing.
We've
done
yet,
as
a
city
has
really
made
a
dent
on
the
fact
that
there's
not
enough
legitimately
affordable
housing,
it's
it's
the
it's
a
large
failure,
it's
not
anybody's
particular,
but
we
we
haven't
done
it.
H
So
I'm
part
of
the
rental
subsidy
coalition.
Oh
sorry,
one
last
picture
and
I'll
send
these
on
the
number
of
full-time
employed,
but
homeless
people
has
been
going
up
long
before
pandemic.
It
just
got
a
lot
worse
last
year,
but
it's
been
getting
worse
period.
These
are
unduplicated
counts
of
maybe
one
eighth
of
the
city's
non-public
housing
properties.
So
I'm
sure
the
actual
number
is
much
worse
than
the
2000
households
that
we
know
if
we're
full-time
employed
but
homeless.
So
I
think
that
speaks
to
the
need
for
this
rental
voucher
program.
H
We
are
hearing
in
the
meetings
with
bha
that
they
might
right
off.
The
bat
have
trouble
finding
enough
developers
to
take
advantage
of
these
vouchers,
but
there
are
several
really
important
points
here
that
explain
that
that
we
need
to
you
need
to
know
these
lotteries
that
are
happening
now
were
started
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
maybe
two
years,
it's
an
incredibly
long
process.
By
the
time
this
pilot
launched
in
march
or
april
really
of
this
year.
H
It
was
too
late
to
get
any
of
the
lotteries,
but
one
that
I'm
handling
so
most
of
the
lotteries
running
now
couldn't
really
incorporate
the
rental
subsidy
thing,
because
it
was
just
too
hard
getting
that
fair
marketing
plan
to
actually
begin
the
lottery.
So
I
think
give
this
a
year
or
two,
and
we
should
see
more
developers
number
two-
that
fair
marketing
plan
that
every
developer
developer
has
to
go
through
with
the
city.
It's
140,
150
pages.
It's
a
gauntlet.
It's
incredibly
complicated
my
own
questions.
H
After
reading
it
were
three
single
spaced
pages,
it's
really
hard,
but
it
is
the
template
and
I
think
it
makes
sense
that
we
incorporate
into
that
template
this
rental
subsidy
program.
The
developers
should
have
to
say
I'm
going
to
use
it
or
explain
why
they're
not-
and
I
think,
by
putting
it
in
this
document
which
the
developers
view
as
the
template
it
would
make
them
take
that
program
more
seriously.
H
Behind
some
of
their
notes,
the
last
thing
is,
I
don't
get
a
clear-cut
sentence
from
the
city
in
stone
that
they're
going
to
commit
to
this
program
in
perpetuity,
and
I
know
that's
making
developers
skittish.
They
don't
want
to
take
advantage
of
it
and
then
find
out
that
they're
tied
into
this
horrible
yearly
renewal
or
that
they're
having
to
evict
tenants.
So
we
really
need
to
put
in
stone
that
it
is
definitely
going
on
in
gratuity.
H
And,
finally,
I
think
the
five
million
is
maybe
going
to
be
four
or
500
vouchers.
We
need
10
million
next
year.
This
would
be
the
first
program
in
my
15
years
of
weightless
management
that
might
actually
make
a
dent
an
increase
in
in
homelessness.
H
A
H
A
lot
I've
got
my
screen
and
thank
you
so
much.
A
No
thanks
and
yeah
and
obviously
that
huge
gap
in
deeply
affordable
housing.
That's
the
reason
that
I'm
so
focused
on
getting
these
2500
fair
cloth
units
into
circulation
because
we
need
it
so
badly.
All
right,
I
see
michael
caine
is
up
now
with
a
with
a
palm
tree.
In
the
background,
so
michael
will
go
to
you
and
then
it'll
be
cassie,
hurt,
go.
W
Ahead,
thank
you,
counselor.
I
was
on
a
zoom
call
to
somebody
in
florida
earlier
and
I
haven't
quite
come
back,
but
thank
you
for
letting
us
speak
tonight
today,
I'm
from
michael
kane
from
the
mass
alliance
of
attendance
and
also
representing
the
city
rent
subsidy
coalition.
W
That
john
just
spoke
from,
and
we
are
urging
mayor
janie
to
increase
the
allocation
of
the
mayor
walsh,
set
aside
of
5
million
a
year
to
at
least
10
million
a
year
there's
given
the
amount
of
money
that
is
coming
into
the
city
from
both
the
federal
this
special
allocation
from
the
feds
and
the
additional
new
revenue
from
new
growth
revenue.
W
We
believe
the
city
does
have
additional
room
in
the
budget
to
increase
this
program.
The
city
of
washington
dc
set
the
precedent
for
it.
They
spent
about
50
million
a
year
from
the
regular
city
budget,
so
if
they
can
do
it,
why
can't
we
comparably
size
city?
W
So
we
were
pleased
that
the
mayor
listened
to
the
council
and
created
the
five
million
dollar
pilot
program
on
a
permanent
basis.
He
assured
us
that
it
would
be
5
million
a
year
more
or
less
in
perpetuity
enabling
the
city
to
enter
into
long-term
contracts,
subject
to
annual
appropriation,
just
like
the
federal
section
8
program
developers
are
used
to
that,
but
they
do
need
some
assurance
from
the
city
that,
yes,
it
is
a
permanent
commitment,
a
permanent
program,
so
the
pilot
is
underway.
W
It
is
we
don't
yet
know
the
number
of
applications
and
the
number
of
units
that
are
under
negotiation
for
that
pilot,
the
city
the
bha
is
advertised
in
january
and
their
advertisement
is
open
through
it's
a
rolling
one
through
june.
We
don't
know
how
many
developers
have
applied
and
for
how
many
units,
the
the
bha,
is
hinting
that
it's
not
enough
to
eat
up
the
first
allocation
of
2.5
million,
which
is
what
was
advertised
it's
soon
to
go
to
five
million
annually
starting
in
july
one.
W
But
so
at
one
level
we
do
need
this.
The
council's
help
in
pushing
the
agencies
we're
not
clear
on
how
how
aggressively
dnd,
bha
and
bpda
have
been
encouraging
developers
with
tax
credit
units
in
the
pipeline
or
idp
units
in
the
pipeline
to
sign
up
for
the
steeper
subsidy.
W
But
the
idea
was
to
make
mixed
income
housing,
with
tax
credits
more
affordable
to
a
lower
income
range
by
setting
aside
low
income,
rent
subsidies
from
the
city,
just
like
project-based
section
8,
just
like
project-based
mrvp-
and
these
are
project-based
subsidies,
not
tenant-based,
so
they
wouldn't
be
mobile.
They
would
be
tied
to
the
units.
We
prefer
to
call
it
a
city,
rent
subsidy
program,
not
a
city
voucher
program,
because
that's
a
little
misleading.
I
think
so.
W
It's
more
of
city,
rent
subsidy
program
like
the
one
in
washington,
so
we
need
some
help
in
encouraging
developers
to
sign
up.
We've
had
mixed
records
on
that
of
talking
to
even
non-profits,
with
tax
credit
applications
to
encourage
them
to
consider
it.
W
Some
pushback
has
been
they're
worried
that,
because
the
priority
would
go
to
homeless
families
with
children
in
the
boston
public
schools
in
this
tranche
that
they
would
burden
them
with
people
with
families
with
major
problems,
we
don't
think
that's
really
necessarily
the
case,
because
many
of
the
homeless
families
with
children
in
the
schools
are
workers.
W
They
just
can't
afford
an
apartment,
they're
they're
living
on
somebody's
sofa,
so
that
and
under
the
city
program
they
would
be
eligible,
unlike
the
federal
program
for
priority
in
this
program,
so
we're
encouraging
developers
to
talk
more
to
the
agencies.
I
think
the
agencies
could
be
encouraged
to
do
more.
Talking
more
outreach
around
that.
So
that's
the
immediate
problem
is
getting
people
to
sign
up.
It's.
We
got
this
benefit.
W
It's
sitting
there
it's
about
to
double
right,
but
people
need
to
sign
up
in
the
long
term,
though
we
need
more
money,
we
know
the
demand
the
need.
Is
there.
The
mayor's
housing
report
identified
21
000,
extremely
low
income,
families
that
are
in
need
of
assistance
through
2030.,
even
with
10
million
a
year.
That's
a
thousand
units,
that's
that's
something
toward
that.
Twenty
one
thousand
dollar
gap,
but
it
isn't
enough,
they
could
easily
do
if
the
city
did
50
million
a
year.
You
know
that's
enough
for
5
000,
low-income
families.
W
That
would
be
something
it'd
be
like
what
washington
does.
So
we
know
that
the
federal
money
and
the
state
money
are
not
enough.
They
need
to
be
increased,
so
the
idea
was
this
program
was
to
increase
the
amount
of
money
available
for
extremely
low
income
people
priority
on
people
that
are
experiencing
homelessness
that
are
doubling
up
that
this
program
can
assist.
I
should
also
mention
that,
because
it's
a
city
program,
it
can
be
used
to
assist
undocumented
families
that
are
not
eligible
for
federal
assistance.
W
As
you
know,
so
this
is
a
it's
a
cities
program.
They
can
target
it
the
way
they
they
they
meet
the
actual
needs
of
people
in
the
city.
So
we
need
the
council's
help
on
this.
It
would
be
helpful
if
you
all
could
circulate
a
letter
to
mayor
janie,
encouraging
her
to
go
for
more
in
this
year's
budget.
Let's
get
it
up
to
10
now
and
as
it
expands
over
time,
the
developers
love
it
right.
It's
money
for
them,
but
we
need
it
in
the
city
to
meet
the
need.
W
A
Thank
you,
michael
thanks
for
testifying
and
for
all
your
work.
Thank.
W
V
Hey
everybody,
I'm
cassie
hurd,
I'm
a
17-year
resident
of
allston
and
the
executive
director
of
the
material
aid
and
advocacy
program
like
michael
and
john
I'm
here
today,
representing
the
city
rent
subsidy
coalition.
We
have
32
boston-based
organizations
advocating
for
the
city
rental
budget
program
since
2016.,
and
so
I
feel
like
michael
and
john,
have
offered
an
incredible
amount
of
information,
but
I
can
offer
some
further
context
around
the
great
need
we
know.
V
Every
day
we
hear
frequently
from
elected
and
appointed
officials,
noting
that
we're
seeking
solutions
to
this
crisis,
but
frustratingly
we
feel,
like
you
know,
the
administration
continuously
known,
effective
and
inhumane
policing
and
public
work
strategies
that
are,
unfortunately,
criminalizing
marginally
marginalizing
and
harming
community
members
fatal
overdose
rates,
increased
42
between
2019
and
2020
and
unhoused
community
members
who
use
drugs
are
experiencing
an
escalating
hiv
outbreak,
13
new
cases
in
january
and
february
of
this
year
alone,
and
it's
been
documented
that
one
in
eight
community
members
arrested
in
boston
are
experiencing
homelessness,
and
I
think
we
all
know
that
criminalizing
poverty,
substance,
use
and
mental
illness
is
both
counterproductive,
but
obviously
also
costly
medical
providers
and
frontline
workers
are
doing
all
they
can
with
limited
resources
available
to
them
and
as
lyla
noted
in
order
to
be
successful,
we
need
to
have
both
housing
and
substance,
use
services,
better
resourced
and
working
in
tandem,
and
I
think
you
know
sheila
noted
many
people
have
noted
as
we
move
closer
to
the
end
of
the
eviction
moratorium.
V
We
know
that
only
be
more
people,
households
of
all
configurations
facing
homelessness.
It's
been
well
documented
that
housing
is
healthcare,
offering
housing
first
through
a
10
million
dollar
investment
in
the
city.
Rent
subsidy
program
would
improve
the
ability
for
unhoused
community
members
to
access
services,
improve
their
health
outcomes
and
stay
of
love
themselves
in
a
way
that
they
simply
can't
do
surviving
on
the
street
in
a
shelter
or
even
if
they're,
precariously
housed,
doubled
up
or
living
with
others.
V
As
michael
said,
you
know
the
program's
sort
of
in
its
infancy
and
the
bha
is,
you
know,
still
working
with
the
rfp
and
it
hasn't
come
back
yet,
but
we
know
it's
been
highly
successful
in
washington
and
it
can
be
successful
here
as
well.
You
know
unhoused
and
under
house
residents
deserve
housing,
and
we
can
have
this
like
use.
This
critical
moment
to
you
know,
stop
warehousing
on
house,
community
members
and
unsafe
and
inhumane
spaces
and
really
use
this
program
as
a
form
of
upstream
prevention.
V
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
cassie.
Thank
you
to
all
the
members
of
the
coalition.
Thank
you
to
my
council
colleagues
for
joining
and
supposedly
stayed
on
for
public
testimony
and
again
to
the
whole
dnd
and
fair
housing
team,
and
we
really
appreciate
all
your
work
and
with
that.
This
hearing
of
the
boston
city
council's
ways
and
means
committee
is
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Good.