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Description
The focus of this hearing is the FY23 budget for the Inspectional Services Department.
Docket #0480-0482
Orders for the FY23 Operating Budget, including annual appropriations for departmental operations, for the School Department, and for other post-employment benefits (OPEB).
Docket #0483
Orders for capital fund transfer appropriations.
Dockets #0484-0486
Orders for the Capital Budget, including loan orders and lease-purchase agreements.
A
A
The
council's
budget
review
process
will
encompass
a
series
of
public
hearings
beginning
in
april
and
running
through
june.
We
strongly
encourage
residents
to
take
a
moment
to
engage
in
this
process
by
giving
testimony
for
the
record.
You
can
do
this
in
several
ways
attend
one
of
our
hearings
and
give
public
testimony.
We
will
take
public
testimony
at
each
departmental
hearing
and
also
at
two
hearings
dedicated
to
public
testimony.
A
Our
scheduled
hearings,
dedicated
to
public
testimony
was
at
on
april
26
at
6
pm,
and
the
following
will
be
on
june,
2nd
at
6
pm.
You
can
give
testimony
in
person
here
in
the
chamber
or
virtually
via
zoom
for
in-person
testimony.
Please
come
to
the
chamber
and
sign
up
on
the
sheet
near
the
entrance
for
virtual
testimony.
You
can
sign
up
using
our
online
form
on
our
council
budget
review
website
or
by
emailing
the
committee
at
ccc.wm
boston.gov,
when
you
are
called
to
testify.
A
Email,
your
written
testimony
to
committee
at
ccc.wm
at
boston.gov,
or
submit
a
two-minute
video
of
your
testimony
through
the
form
on
our
website
for
more
information
on
the
city
council
budget
process
and
how
to
testify.
Please
visit
the
city
council's
budget
website
at
boston.gov
for
slash
council
dash
budget.
Today's
hearing
is
on
dockets
zero.
A
Our
panelists
for
today's
hearing
are
sean
lydon,
commissioner
of
inspectional
services,
kelly
mackey
assistant,
commissioner
of
administration
and
finance
inspectional
services,
department,
christopher
english,
chief
of
staff,
inspectional
services,
department
and
jessica.
Thomas
deputy
commissioner,
is
that
correct
assistant
commissioner
assistant
commissioner
constitu
is
constitutional
services?
Awesome.
A
A
A
For
the
first
round,
counselors
will
have
a
total
of
seven
minutes
and
the
second
round
five
in
the
third
round,
three,
unfortunately
or
fortunately
the
what
we've
experienced
here-
is
that
counselors
feel
more
comfortable
to
have
their
time
their
time,
condensed
in
one.
So
we
might
just
do
two
rounds
so
first
round
of
eight
minutes
second
round
of
eight
minutes
with
public
testimony
in
between
you
welcome
and
please
to
state
your
name
and
position.
When
you
begin
the
presentation,
you
now
have
the
floor.
B
Good
afternoon,
chair
fernandez,
anderson,
the
members
of
city
council,
my
name
is
sean
lydon,
I'm
the
commissioner
of
the
inspectional
services
department,
I'm
joined
here
today
by
chris
english,
chief
of
staff,
kelly
mackey
assistant,
commissioner
of
administration,
and
finance
and
jessica
thomas
assistant,
commissioner
of
constituent
services.
Thank
you
for
holding
this
hearing,
inviting
us
to
speak
today
about
inspectional
service
department's
fiscal
year
23
budget
proposals.
B
B
Our
staff
is
an
incredibly
dedicated
group
of
professionals
that
work
to
ensure
our
buildings
and
our
public
spaces
are
safe
and
accessible
to
all.
We
provide
24-hour
services
responding
to
emergencies
and
complaints
in
real
time.
Our
team
is
out
in
the
field
and
in
the
office
we're
at
community
meetings
and
in
boston's
businesses
we
permit
license
inspect
and
regulate
nearly
every
aspect
of
daily
life
in
the
city.
B
At
this
point,
I'd
like
to
pass
it
over
to
my
chief
of
staff,
mr
chris
english,
to
provide
a
department
overview,
followed
by
assistant
commissioner
thomas,
to
highlight
recent
investments
and
accomplishments
and
finally,
to
assistant
commissioner
mackey
to
go
over
our
fiscal
year.
23
investment
proposals
after
the
short
presentation
we'd
be
happy
to
take
your
questions.
A
C
You,
commissioner,
my
name
is
chris
english.
I
am
the
chief
of
staff
for
inspectional
services
and
go
over
a
brief
overview
of
the
department
and
all
the
work
that
we
do
so,
as
commissioner
lydon
stated
isd
enforces:
building
housing,
health,
sanitation
and
safety
regulations
mandated
by
the
city
and
state
designed
to
protect
and
improve
the
quality
of
life
for
our
residents,
businesses
and
visitors.
C
A
C
We
engage
with
our
customers
and
our
constituents
through
a
variety
of
channels,
handling
over
20
000
service
requests
and
115
000
calls
to
our
call
center
annually,
our
constituent
services,
liaisons
and
staff
attend
over
250
community
meetings
and
events
every
year.
We
do
our
best
to
bring
isd
out
of
the
office
and
into
the
neighborhoods
and
tailor
our
work
based
on
the
unique
demands
for
our
services.
C
We
have
plumbing
electrical
mechanical
building
inspectors
assigned
to
that
division
who
conducted
approximately
40
000
inspections
in
2021,
our
environmental
health
division
works
primarily
primarily
to
prevent
and
mitigate
rodent
activity
in
the
city.
Our
environmental
health
inspectors
conduct
inspections,
trapping
public
realm
baiting
in
parks,
playgrounds
and
public
ways,
handling
about
5
000
service
requests
a
year.
We
do
baiting
operations
at
approximately
3
000
sewer
locations
and
400
parks
and
playgrounds
each
year
our
health
division
is
responsible
for
ensuring
businesses
in
boston,
meet
state
sanitary
code,
federal
food
code
and
related
state
regulations
and
city
ordinances.
C
C
Our
housing
division
enforces
city
and
state
regulations
that
ensure
residents
have
clean,
safe
and
sanitary
homes.
The
division
enforces
the
rental,
registration
and
inspection
ordinance,
the
short-term
rental
ordinance,
the
senior
security
ordinance,
among
others,
our
housing
inspectors
conduct
approximately
ten
thousand
annual
rental
program
inspections,
approximately
six
thousand
reactive
or
complaint
based
inspections
every
year.
C
Finally,
our
weight
to
measures
division
enforces
state
codes
for
devices
that
weigh
and
measure
products,
including
price
scanners,
scales,
taxi
meters,
gas
pumps,
fuel
delivery,
trucks
to
ensure
that
they're,
accurate
and
that
customers
are
charged
appropriately.
This
division
also
enforces
the
truck
side
guard
ordinance
and
the
ordinance
prohibiting
the
use
of
plastic
bags.
C
D
All
right,
can
you
hear
me
so
this
portion
will
highlight
isd's
recent
achievements
and
changes.
Inspectional
services
expanded
our
involvement
in
new
and
emerging
programs
such
as
short-term
rental,
support,
residential
kitchens,
outdoor
dining
and
encampment
outreach.
Additionally,
two
investigation
and
enforcement
positions
were
funded
in
fiscal
year
2022
to
help
support
these
efforts.
D
Isd
has
continued
investments
to
the
permit
process
through
staffing
and
technology.
Our
department
will
continue
to
expand
online
services
by
making
additional
requests
available
online.
This
will
help
to
provide
a
more
streamlined,
modern
and
user-friendly
service
from
start
to
finish.
Expanded
education
and
outreach
efforts
have
been
a
key
priority
at
isd.
The
department
provides
educational
workshops
throughout
the
year
and
we
meet
with
constituents
in
their
district
to
solve
issues.
E
E
E
These
investments
have
increased
capacity
to
support
our
core
services,
have
built
programs
for
education
and
outreach,
have
allowed
us
to
adapt
to
new
enforcement
requirements
and
have
allowed
us
to
expand
initiatives
to
modernize
services
and
improve
customer
service
in
fiscal
year
23.
The
recommended
budget
includes
investments
to
build
on
this
foundation
and
creates
positions
to
expand
capacity
within
the
building
division.
E
The
recommended
budget
also
creates
a
role
designated
as
the
floodplain
administrator
for
the
city.
This
role
meets
a
requirement
to
join
the
fema
community
rating
system.
Crs
program.
Joining
this
program
is
a
priority
identified
in
the
climate.
Ready
boston
crs
recognizes
and
rewards
communities
that
go
beyond
the
minimum
required
by
the
national
flood
insurance
program
by
reducing
flood
insurance
premiums
city-wide
for
municipal
buildings
and
for
our
residents
and
businesses.
E
E
E
We
are
working
currently
on
space
upgrades
for
our
plan
examiners
and
environmental
team
and
working
to
expand
that
across
10-10
and
with
doit.
We
have
extensive
technology
investments
over
the
past
several
years
to
be
able
to
improve
our
customer
service
efforts
and
internal
efficiencies,
and
with
that
turn
it
back
over
to
commissioner
for
questions.
If
you're
ready.
B
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
I
will
now
go
to
my
council
colleagues
for
questions
and
first
is
council
filerity.
You
have
the
board.
F
Thank
you,
man,
chair
and
good
afternoon,
commish
and
to
your
team.
Let
me
just
compliment
you
on
how
responsive
you've
been,
as
was
your
predecessor,
dion
irish.
You
guys
have
always
been
working
as
a
team
and
you've
taken
over
since
he's
moved
on
to
a
new
role
and
again
truly
24
7
public
servant,
and
I
really
appreciate
that.
I'm
sure
my
colleagues
will
echo
the
same
comments
morning
noon:
night,
weekends
holidays.
F
You
get
right
back
to
either
me
my
staff
or
my
colleagues
and
their
staff,
so
really
just
test
them
into
your
commitment
to
our
city
as
well
as
you're,
only
as
good
as
the
team
around
you,
so
your
team
also
has
been
super
responsive.
I
also
want
to
make
a
note
of
the
diversity
of
your
team,
both
in
your
office.
Anyone
goes
over
to
10
tim
sav.
F
You
can
see
the
face
of
the
city
reflected
in
your
staff,
as
well
as
those
that
are
out
in
the
field
and
again
test
them
into
your
leadership
and
the
the
team
that
you've
assembled
over
there.
I
also
want
to
take
an
opportunity
to
thank
you
for
your
expeditious
reviews,
particularly
as
the
mass
and
cast
as
those
camp
encampments
were
were
being
removed.
F
You
had
expedited
the
appeals
for
housing,
which
I
think
was
very
helpful
in
making
that
a
much
smoother
transition.
So
I
think
we
owe
a
debt
of
gratitude
to
you
and
your
team
on
that
front
as
well,
and
I'll
also
say
that
we
are
regularly
we,
the
council,
because
we
pass
ordinances
here,
we
are
regularly
putting
more
on
your
plate,
so
the
expression
sort
of
doing
more.
F
With
less
I
mean
you're
doing
more
with
the
same,
but
one
would
argue
that
you're
actually
doing
more
with
less
the
the
rental
inspection
ordinance,
the
short-term
rental
ordinance,
the
the
residential
kitchen
ordinance,
the
sandwich
board
ordinance.
I
mean
just
to
name
a
few
that
come
off
the
top
of
my
head
that
either
pertain
to
the
health
and
welfare
or
the
city,
people's
quality
of
life.
F
You
know
weights
and
measures,
roading
control,
health
inspections,
all
of
that,
including
the
very
busy
inspectional
service
department
through
all
the
variances
and
the
development
that's
happening
and
keeping
our
city
moving
forward.
Keeping
projects
on
schedule
that
have
also
helped
create
economic
opportunity
for
our
city
throughout
all
of
our
neighborhoods.
So
again,
credit
to
you
just
a
couple
things
jump
out
in
the
budget,
and
that
may
be
because
we're
we're
asking
you
to
do
more.
F
When
I
look
at
sort
of
the
overtime
budget,
I
do
see
a
jump
and
I
guess
I
don't
know
whether
that
was
through
covid
in
everything
that
we're
asking
you
guys
to
do
or
if
it's
something
else.
But
if
we
can
just
explain
those
numbers
briefly
and
then
we
can
jump
into
some
of
some
of
the
field.
Inspections.
B
If,
if
I
make
I'm
so
flattery,
first
of
all,
you
know,
thank
you
very,
very
much.
You
know,
fear
recognition
and
I
have
to
say
it's
the
individuals
around
the
whole
department.
You
know
we
have
some
basic
mavericks
and
I
can
say
with
the
implementation
of
that
kelly
has
made,
and
chris
is
mate
and
jessica,
and
these
are
the
these
are
the
backbones
of
different,
a
different
way
of
thinking
out
in
the
neighborhood.
But
thank
you
for
your
recognition,
the
overtime,
it's
real,
relatively
simple
kelly.
B
Would
you
mind
please
it's
very
simple
explanation
for
the
increase
in
the
overtime
in
a
way
it's
formatted.
E
E
We
worked
with
council
to
change
our
process
for
our
off
hours,
inspections
in
fiscal
year
20,
and
that's
the
increase
that
you
see
in
the
budget.
The
process
now
does
mean
that
isd
is
reflecting
the
cost
of
that
service
on
our
budget.
We
are
also
reflecting
that
revenue
in
our
budget,
so
the
off
hours
inspection
process
is
an
in-demand
service.
This
allows
us
to
work
with
our
contractors
to
provide
scheduled
inspections
outside
of
our
normal
business
operations
hours.
E
This
is,
for
many
inspections
necessary
to
be
working
off
of
the
business
hours
of
the
contractors,
the
constituents,
the
businesses
that
we
are
conducting
those
inspections
in,
but
that
is
what
you're,
seeing
that
change
in
operations.
F
B
It's
actually
much
more
efficient
process.
We
do.
We
do
collect
revenue,
much
easier,
the
revenue
it's
paid
up
front
now,
rather
than
you
know,
we
had
outstanding
160
000
at
one
time
a
couple
of
years
ago,
three
different
contractors,
but
right
now
the
money
is
up
front.
Those
fees
are
up
front
and
it's
a
wash
as
far
as
the
inspection.
F
B
Necessarily
what
it
is
basically
council,
you're
going
to
see
the
the
spike
in
the
is
a
request
for
off
hours,
they're.
Looking
four
o'clock
in
the
morning
five
o'clock
in
the
morning,
different
high-rise,
different
different.
You
may
have
you
have
life
safety
testing
which
the
you
don't
want
to
dump
a
high-rise.
Basically,
yet
you
know
in
the
middle
of
a
work
day
and
which
is
coordinated
with
the
fire
department
and
the
fire
department
will
dictate
the
times.
B
F
The
pesky
creature,
the
norwegian
rat
that
just
plagues
all
of
our
neighborhoods,
which
I
know
a
tremendous
amount
of
too
much-
probably
about
that.
I
want
to
know
about,
but
first
of
all
I
love
the
fact
that
you
run
the
program
that
you
do
neighborhood
tours
with
the
inspectors
in
the
residence.
I
know
my
colleague,
council
braden
is
probably
gonna.
This
is
gonna,
be
in
her
wheelhouse
with
the
recent.
I
think
she
called
it
a
rat
safari
if
I
wasn't
mistaken,
but
so
I
appreciate
that
you
do
that.
F
We've
seen
an
infestation,
one
would
argue.
Probably
we
were
seeing
it
prior
to
covet,
but
during
covert
there
was
sort
of
an
explosion,
maybe
more
people
home
sort
of
seeing
things
in
their
backyard
or
what
have
you
when
they
would
normally
maybe
be
at
work
or
maybe
because
a
lot
of
the
places
were
closed
down.
They
were
looking
and
migrating
to
other
areas
and
then
getting
there
saying.
Well,
that's
actually
pretty
good.
I
should
have
came
here
a
long
time
ago.
F
I
didn't
know
it
was
the
hustle
was
in
town
with
all
the
restaurants,
but
I'd
rather
be
out
here.
So
seeing
that
is
there
any
plans
to
hire
sort
of
more
pests
and
rodent
controls,
and
can
we
finally
get
to
this
dry
ice
conundrum
whereby
we
are
allowed
to
use
it
and
not
have
to
get
in
a
car
and
drive
up
to
the
north
shore
with
a
sticker
and
then
have
to
drive
to
the
south
shore
to
actually
pick
up
the
dry
ice?
F
Can
we
have
this
thing,
and
what
can
we
do
as
a
council?
Is
that
an
ordinance
is
that
a
is
it
a
state
law?
Can
you
just
give
us
a
briefing
on
that
and.
B
Basically,
you
know
I'd
like
to
address
the
fact
that,
yes,
since
a
lot
of
businesses
did
close
the
they're
actually
looking
for
different
food
sources,
the
visibility
and
it's
spread
out
throughout
the
city
and
once
again,
you
know
downtown
with
a
lot
of
restaurants.
A
lot
of
small
small
shops
have
closed
these.
These
critters
they're
looking
for
a
food
source
as
far
as
implementation,
with
the
dry
ice
and
different
methodology
that
we
have
come
across.
B
C
Thanks
so
concert
recently,
we
purchased
two
they're
called
boro
rx
machines.
They
are
a
rodent.
C
Mitigation
system
that
utilizes
carbon
monoxide,
so
it's
pumped
into
burrows,
to
effectively
suffocate
the
rodents
in
chris.
F
So
you
purchased
two
machines
for
a
pilot
program.
If
we
see
if
we
see
significant
success
with
this,
then
we're
talking
about
maybe
a
broader
purchase
is
the
broader
purchase
reflected
in
this.
Because,
if
we're
going
to
approve
this
budget,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
full
court
press
on
road
in
control,
particularly
how
we
solve
this
problem.
It's
it's
all
of
the
city,
some
neighborhoods
worse
than
others,
but
it's
everywhere.
F
C
The
results
are
pretty
promising,
so
yes,.
F
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
vr
important
leadership.
Thank
you
to
the
isd
team
as
well
for
your
important
work
that
you
do
in
the
neighborhoods,
improving
quality
of
life
of
residents.
So
just
want
to
echo
my
colleague,
council
flaherty,
in
the
professionalism
of
your
team
and
the
hard-working
of
your
staff.
G
When
it
comes
to
isd,
my
main
focus
has
been
enforcement.
Whether
it's
on
airbnb
after
hours,
construction
is,
is
an
issue
that
we're
focused
on
one
issue
that
I
focused
on,
probably
more
so
than
others.
Besides,
the
pest
control
that
council
flaherty
mentioned
is
house
parties
and
it's
it's
an
issue
that
has
frustrated
me.
G
It's
it's
probably
an
issue,
that's
frustrating
you
as
well,
but
it
certainly
frustrated
residents
in
my
neighborhood
of
south
boston,
where
we
have
we're
going
into
the
nice
weather
now,
and
residents
are
having
a
difficult
time
trying
to
get
to
sleep
at
night
because
of
these
house
parties,
50
60
people,
mostly
young
people.
G
But
you
know
these
house
parties
are
having
a
terrible
impact
on
on
residents
on
seniors
on
persons
with
disabilities
on
little
kids
trying
to
get
to
get
to
sleep
on
workers
that
might
work
a
second
or
a
third
shift,
they're
trying
to
support
their
families,
and
you
have
these
25
year
old,
kids,
partying
partying,
like
rock
stars,
so
you
know
that's
a
that's
a
major
problem
I
want
to.
I
want
to
continue
to
work
with
your
team
on
what
can
we
do
on
that?
G
B
You
council
flynn,
first
and
foremost,
and
thank
you
for
having
us
here,
I
think
with
the
house
parties.
You
know.
Obviously
we
have
a
great
resource.
You
know
with
our
ine
team.
You
know
we
have
had
huge
success
in
some
of
the
neighborhoods
throughout
the
city
with
outreach
to
these
individuals.
If
there's
like
say
we
had
people
selling
tickets
to
these
big
parties
and
having
200
people
at
this
party
assistant
commissioner
jessica,
what
what
she
has
done,
it's
it's
more
of
an
educational
process.
B
These
would
be
allowed
in
certain
places
and
certain
things,
but
we
can
change
venues.
We've
we've
steered
individuals
into
different
venues
with
huge
success
from
different
parts
of
the
city
with
south
boston.
It's
it's
house
parties,
because
obviously
I
think
we
all
know
it's
a
it's
a
very
different
clientele
recently
in
how
boston
south
boston,
different
different
individuals.
But
isd
has
the
authority
end
as
far
as
roof
decks.
B
Porches
the
structural
integrity
of
such
we
have
the
authority
to
shut
that
down,
and
you
know
for
the
safety
of
those
young
people.
You
know,
may
be
partying,
you
know
and
they
don't
realize
what's
in
front
of
them,
what
could
happen
with
different?
You
know
falling
off
the
roof
collapses.
We
see
it
at
st
patrick's
day's
parties,
but
we
do
have
that
authority.
We
work
in
conjunction
with
the
police
department
and
very
responsive
once
again,
and
you
know
we're
there
and
whatever
we
can
do
to
help.
We
don't
have.
B
Obviously
we
don't
have
police
powers,
but
we
do
have
the
authority
to
empty
out
off
a
deck
or
porches
or
any
kind
of
egress.
Issues
which
comes
in
is
a
very
valuable
tool
in
in
cases
as
such,
and
also
we
do
have
not
to
interrupt.
Excuse
me,
but
the
with
boston,
public
health.
We
work
in
conjunction
with
boston,
public
health.
There
are
noise
limitations,
different
hours
that
are
that
are
regulated
by
the
city
of
austin.
We
work
with
boston,
public
health.
We
can
do
decibel
level
level
metering.
G
Thank
you,
commissioner.
There
was
a
house
in
in
my
neighborhood
on
thomas
park,
you're,
probably
familiar
with
it.
I
was
by
about
a
month
ago
with
the
police
officer,
because
residents
asked
us
to
take
a
look
at
it
having
these
late
night
parties,
not
even
at
midnight,
late
night
parties
at
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
I'm
always
afraid
of
a
party
where
something
could
go
wrong,
such
as
a
fire
or
someone
getting
you
know
falling
down
and
then
a
group
of
people
kind
of
running
over
them
stampede.
G
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
word
I'm
looking
for,
but
I'm
I'm
very
concerned
about
those
types
of
incidents
that
could
take
place
at
the
pa
at
these
parties.
That's
why
I'm
so
focused
on
that.
So
I
appreciate
the
work
that
your
team
is
doing
on
that.
The
final
issue
I
just
want
to
highlight
is
council.
If
I
already
talked
about
it,
I've
held
several
hearings
with
many
of
my
colleagues
here
on
pest
control
in
public
works
was
here
earlier.
G
We
talked
to
public
works
about
you,
know
the
critical
role
public
works
plays,
but
inspectional
services,
code
enforcement,
ons
district
city
council
is
I've,
been
on
many
of
these
walk
walk-throughs
in
the
neighborhoods
about
pest
control.
So
I
know
we
don't
have
enough
of
those
machines
and
the
the
results
are
good
for
that
new
new
new
product
that
we
have
that
can
hopefully
deal
with
pest
control.
G
We
need
to
educate
people
about
the
proper
way
to
take
out
trash
as
well.
It's
not
as
just
as
simple
as
taking
out
your
trash
and
putting
it
there
composting
the
same
thing:
recycling
as
well.
There
has
to
be
a
public
awareness
campaign
in
many
languages,
but
what
what
can
district
councils
do?
What
can
at
large
counselors
do?
I
should
say
as
well,
in
residence
to
to
deal
with
pest
control
related
issues
so
so
that
we're
able
to
help
you.
B
I
think
it
education
is
key.
You
know
outreach
to
the
the
people
in
the
community,
the
the
proper
storage-
if,
if
there's
no
food
source
you're
not
going
to
have
that
problem,
they're
going
to
go
elsewhere
and
they
won't-
I
mean
nature,
they
won't
breed
as
much
if
they
do
not
have
a
food
source
they're
not
going
to
breed
and
with
say
construction
sites
who
are
borrowing
these
construction
sites,
they're
obligated
for
pest
control
and
they
they
may,
they
have
to
maintain
that
pest
control.
We
have
a
very
strict
enforcement
on
that.
B
That's
where
the
you
know
any
kind
of
excavation
whatsoever
that
comes
in
there's
a
definite
sign
off
for
contract
with
community
sanitation
on
those
on
those
permits
applied
for
education,
I
believe,
is
key.
Obviously
nobody
wants
to
see
that
in
their
own
area.
It's
the
tight
control
of
the
trash
in
the
neighborhood,
and
if
it
gets
to
the
point
where
code
enforcement
violation
on
I
mean
we
can
violations
monetary
fines
and
that's
the
bottom
line.
You
know
it's.
B
It's
there's
no
reason
that
that
the
trash
should
be
strong
about
an
area
any
any
area
throughout
the
city.
G
G
I
went
through
some
of
the
trash
a
while
back
and
I
try
to
chase
the
guy
up
the
street
in
a
car,
but
I
didn't
catch
him.
But
what
can
we
do
in
terms
of
increasing
that
fine?
I
want
to
really
impact
these
people
that
dump
this
trash
in
chinatown
because
they
want
to
do
that
in
back
bay
on
on
marlborough
street,
but
you
can
do
it
on
on
tyler
street.
So
what
can
we
do
to
discourage
these
contractors
from
dumping
their
trash
in
in
chinatown.
B
I
think,
once
again
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
matter
of
vigilance.
You
know
in
regards
to
the
contract
and
in
particular
in
that
area
of
the
city,
you
have
a
huge
network
of
underground
tunnels,
which
leaves
hybrids
for
rodents,
another
vermin,
so
it's
it's
especially
dangerous
and
and
entertaining
for
these
types
of
the
the
animals.
B
B
G
B
I
believe
that
we
do
have
an
open
wreck
coming
up.
You
know
for
isd
as
far
as
the
environmental
goes,
but
as
far
as
more
more
staffing,
I
don't
think.
That's
the
key,
we're
looking
to
backstaff
quite
a
few
positions
within
isd
itself,
but
I
think
once
again,
I
think
education
is
key
to
the
communities
and
you
know
no,
but
nobody.
B
We
we
have
situations
where
there's
there's
rats
running
through
little
kids
right.
You
know,
so
I
think-
and
nobody
wants
to
see
that
and
I
think
it's
the
community
themselves.
You
know
enforcement
be
vigilant,
let
us
know
who's
doing
what
and
and
once
again
we'll
we'll
we'll
try
and
make
it
happen.
The
best
we
can.
A
President
flynn,
councillor
baker,
you
have
the
floor.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
good
morning,
commissioner
lyden,
thank
you
for
your
work
and
everybody
welcome
here.
So
your
your
budget
was
22
million.
What
you
guys
spend
and
how
much
do
you
bring
in.
E
The
number
that
we
bring
in
fluctuates
year
to
year
total
revenue
in
fiscal
year.
21
was
50,
just
shy
of
54
million
dollars.
I
H
B
Think,
council,
baker
we
do,
we
have
wrecks,
we've
been
short
staffed
on
plans,
examiners
for
quite
some
time
we're
trying
to
we've
advertised.
You
know
almost
two
years
now
for
qualified
playing
examiners.
It's
a
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
it's
an
intense
position,
yeah,
and
but
we
cannot.
We
cannot
sacrifice
quality
of
these
individuals,
the
individual,
because
once
again
this
is
flames.
Examine.
Is
it's
it's?
It's
not!
It's
not
an
easy
task.
B
H
E
B
Huge,
which
is
once
again,
we've
had
huge
success
by
promoting
from
within
yeah.
You
know
from
the
building
inspector
ranks.
We've
had
huge
success.
You
know,
probably
one
you
know
once
you
get
to
know
the
system
once
you
get
to
know
the
the
zoning,
how
to
interpret
the
zoning
code,
that's
huge
because
and
if
we
already
have
building
credentials
in
certified
building
inspectors,
yeah
that
becomes
secondary
to
the
zoning
criteria.
That's
what
you
meant
by
back.
H
Staff,
so
someone
that's
here,
you're
moving
them
up
perfectly.
I
like
the
way
that
sounds
the
residential
kitchens.
Is
there
anything
have
we
actually,
the
new
residential
kitchens
thing
have
have
we
actually
looked
at
anybody's
kitchen
to
see
if
they're
it
and
and
who
is
doing
that
and
and
what
is
the
complaint
like?
How
do
you
file
a
complaint
and
what
I
know
this
is
a
couple
things
here
and
what
what
are
they
supposed
to
be
able
to
sell?
C
H
C
It's
based
on
cottage
food,
so
these
are
non-temp
controlled
foods,
no
dairy
products,
no
prepared
meals.
These
are
more
breads
cupcakes
things
that
are
shelf
stable.
H
Is
your
cell
phone?
The
same
sure,
is
all
right:
I'm
going
to
call
you
on
that,
because
I've
got
some.
I've
got
some
complaints,
people
catering
and
inciting
this
law
here
and
they're
hurting
they're,
hurting,
brick
and
mortar
brick
and
mortar
business
sean.
You
would
talk
to,
I
think,
or
council
flaherty
brought
up.
H
B
Basically,
with
the
I
mean
we
had,
we
had
an
area,
a
state
of
emergency,
a
city
of
an
emergency.
You
know
we're
coming
up,
we're
coming
up
to
the
cold
weather
and
what
it
was
under
under
you
know,
the
honorable
mayor.
We
can't
leave
people
up
in
the
cold
individuals
out
in
the
cold.
In
a
nutshell,
the
use
itself,
the
occupancy,
the
use
and
occupancy
of
the
building
itself
was
coordinated
through
the
building
department
and
it
was
on
on
a
temporary
basis.
B
It's
not
a
permanent
basis
for
a
certificate
of
occupancy
for
that
for
the
roundhouse
or
any
other
temporary
shelter
to
be
utilized
as
a
permanent
structure.
As
such,
they
have
the
opportunity
to
go
180
days
as
a
as
a
temporary,
and
that
can
be
addressed.
It
can
be
extended
through
through
different
litigation
through
different
processes.
B
H
H
I
get
the
humanitarian
thing,
but
basically
they've
taken
poor
behaviors
off
the
street
and
put
them
behind
closed
walls
and
to
me
it
looks
like
the
city
is
trying
to
make
that
a
permanent
permanent
use
there,
and
I
I
just
disagree
with
the
use.
I
think
that
if
we're
housing
people
we
should
get
them
sober
first,
I'm
going
I'm
going
off
track
a
little
bit
here,
but
so
they're
past
their
180
days.
Now,
why
are
they?
H
Why
is
that
still
happening
and
they're
talking
in
an
mou
about
a
two-year
term
because
they
came
to
us
and
said
this
is
six
months.
The
mou
is
now
two
years
and
then
with
an
option
to
buy.
So
how
does
like?
How
does
a
temporary
they
get
in
there
through
state
of
emergency?
I
get
it,
nobody
wants
them
out.
Nobody
wants
them
on
the
street,
but
they're
all
out
in
the
street,
and
even
though
we
put
some
in
a
whole
bunch
of
them
stayed
there.
H
Now,
if
you
drive
down
there
now,
there's
probably
300
people
out
there.
So
at
what
point
does
that
state
of
emergency
go
away
and
and
at
what
point
are
the
operators
going
to
going
to
have
to
be
honest
with
us?
The
people
are
representing
the
areas
and
the
people
and
and
the
people
that
are
being
affected
by
the
the
behaviors
that
are
happening
there.
B
And
instead
I
can't
address
exactly
council
baker.
What
the
time
frame
is
where
it
is
as
far
as
the
180
days,
nor
whether
or
not
it
has
been
extended.
As
of
such,
I
don't
know
exactly
where
that
is,
but
I
would
be
glad
to
get
back
to
you
when
I
find
out
exact
days
and
when
the
use
and
occupancy
for
that
the
temporary
use
of
occupancy
for
those
buildings
that
particular
building.
B
B
The
zoning
in
the
area,
which
I
cannot
quote
right
off
the
top
of
my
mind,
but
once
again
I'd
be
glad
to
look
into
it,
see
what
the
zoning
is
be
it
be
it
clinic
or
be
it
lodging
whatever
the
specific
use
that
they
intend
to
use
it
for
would
have
to
be
applied
for
and
change
to,
a
permanent
status.
If
it
is
board
of
appeals,
then
that
leaves
it
open
for
public
discussion.
H
Which
would
mean,
if
they're
looking
to
buy
the
sorry?
Madam
chair,
I'm
just
finishing
up
this
point
here.
So,
if
they're
looking
to
extend
this
use
they're
at
some
point
going
to
need
to
come
in
front
of
zoning,
because
the
the
emergency
status
has
gone
away,
correct.
B
J
B
H
Like
to
be
able
to
get
a
full
understanding
what's
happening
down
there
and
again,
I
understand
the
humanitarian
aspect
of
it.
But
to
me
it
looks
like
the
way
the
people
there's
so
many
people
out
there
now
the
word
is
out:
go
there
and
just
act
whatever
way
and
you'll
you'll
end
up
in
a
hotel,
someplace
you'll
end
up
in
a
room,
and
I
don't
think
that
that's
our
responsibility.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
K
Thank
you
so
much
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
isd
team
for
all
the
relentless
work.
I,
commissioner,
I
I
guess
my
first
question
is
really
about.
Like
we've
been
digging
in,
I
know.
Code
enforcement
doesn't
sit
with
you
all
anymore,
it's
over
at
pwd,
but
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
like
uncollected.
K
Fines
and
sort
of
you
know
how
much
both
revenue
we're
giving
up
there
and
also
the
extent
to
which,
if
they
can
just
go
uncollected
for
a
long
time,
we
don't
see
people
kind
of
shaping
up,
and
so
I
wonder
if
you
could
speak
to
like
on
the
fines
that
isd
issues
for
sort
of
your
realm
of
things
bracketing
the
code
enforcement
stuff
like
what
collections
are
like
and
and
specifically
whether
we're
using
or
have
ever
used
or
have
stopped
using
the
kind
of
putting
it
on
people's
property
taxes
as
a
lean
mechanism,
because
my
understanding
was,
we
used
to
do
that
more
with
the
code
enforcement
stuff
and
then
it's
gone
away,
and
so
it's
certainly
when
treasury
is
sitting
in
your
seats,
going
to
be
asking
them
about
how
we
get
that
going
again.
E
This
is
a
position
that
we
plan
to
use
to
really
look
into
these
processes
really
help
us
make
sure
that
the
fines
that
are
being
issued
we
are
executing
on
the
process.
Have
the
paperwork
in
order
are
doing
our
due
diligence
to
get
to
the
point
that
we
could
work
with
treasury
to
have
a
good
case
file
and
be
able
to
put
it
on
the
the
tax
lien?
E
That
is
not
a
process
we
currently
have
in
place.
We
have
had
conversations
with
treasury
in
the
past
about
starting
that
up
for
some
of
the
isd
ordinances.
The
short-term
rental
ordinance
is
a
good
example.
That's
a
fairly
new
ordinance.
We
have
a
few
cases
where
we've
gone
through
the
process,
have
great
documentation
and
have
a
few
good
samples
to
try
to
restart
that
process.
E
But
I
would
say
we
are
in
the
early
stages
of
that,
but
it
is
something
that
we,
as
a
department,
are
certainly
invested
in
through
this
director
of
enforcement
position
and
been
looking
to
push
forward
with.
So.
K
E
It's
been
a
while,
since
we've
had
a
sit
down
with
covid,
this
did
go
to
the
back
burner,
but
we
are
restarting
those
conversations
and
I
think
we
at
isd
were
working
to
go
into
those
conversations
this
time
around
with
good
examples
to
hopefully
be
able
to
move.
K
It
forward
okay,
great
well,
I
would
love
to
see
us
pushing
that.
I
think
it
really.
It
undermines
people's
confidence
in
the
city
when
we
have
things
that
we
ticket
people
for
that,
they
then
don't
pay
and
they
continue
to
do
the
violation,
and
it's
just
never
mind
that
we're
leaving
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
on
the
table.
So
I
was
wondering
on
housing
chris.
K
We
had
that
hearing
last
session
talking
about
how
we
could
be
more
proactive
in
rental
housing,
so
something
I
was
working
on
with
councillor
braden
and
I
know
councillors,
fernandez,
anderson
and
and
lara
have
filed
something
this
year
as
well
like
how
do
we?
K
How
do
we
move
towards
this?
Like
you
know,
toronto's
got
this
system
where
they're
like
much
more
proactively
rating
housing
and
it
seems
to
have
worked
to
kick
a
lot
of
people
into
gear
and
it
seemed
when
we
talked
last
session,
like
the
the
data
was
a
significant
issue
there
and
I'm
wondering
how
what
the
trajectory
is
for
putting
us
in
a
position
where
we
could
actually
like
name
and
shame
people
and
have
data
and
have
it
be
out
there
and
kind
of
yeah
use
the
soft
power
piece
as
well.
C
Sure
data
is
definitely
a
challenge
on
that
sort
of
on
the
proactive
or
public,
shaming
aspect
of
this,
primarily
because
our
housing
inspection
records
are
still
primarily
paper-based,
so
collecting
violation,
data
for
housing
violations,
aggregating
it
analyzing
it
and
making
it
more
useful
to
us
is
a
manual
process
reviewing
inspection
reports,
so
we
are
in
the
process
of
bringing
our
housing
inspection
results
online
in
the
same
way
that
we
have
health
inspections
and
building
violations.
K
C
It's
a
big
project.
I
know
kelly
can
probably
speak
better
on
the
technology
side.
E
Yes,
so
there
are
many
streams
of
work
in
housing
that
we're
looking
to
capture
the
information
on.
So
we
have
several
parallel
projects
to
make
sure
that
we
have
all
of
the
information
at
our
disposal
to
really
know
what
is
going
on
in
our
housing
stock.
What
is
going
on
with
our
inspections,
the
number
the
volume
our
rental
program,
we
have
extensive
data.
That
program
is
almost
entirely
digital,
so
we
do
have
digital
records
for
that.
The
reactive
program,
like
chris,
said
when.
E
Registration
registration,
as
well
as
the
inspections
related
to
the
rental
program,
so
our
10
000
annual
rental
program
inspections.
We
do
have
field
level
data
on
those
inspections,
our
reactive.
We
have
great
data
on
the
request
for
service
the
complaint's
coming
in
through
3-1-1,
but
our
response
to
that
is
what
we're
working
on
really
digitizing.
E
Now
the
do-it
team
has
worked
and
really
invested
in
our
permitting
system.
They've
done
extensive
upgrades
over
the
past
several
years,
so
that
is
setting
a
foundation
that
we'll
be
able
to
grow
upon.
We
also
have
a
fiscal
year,
22
investment
with
them
to
expand
our
mobility,
which
will
help
with
that
effort
as
well.
So
yes,.
K
That's
what
I'm
trying
to
understand
is
the
choke
point
on
the
isd
side.
Is
it
on
the
do
it
side?
Is
there
a
staff
thing
that
we
could
throw
at
it?
I
mean
it's
just
it's
very
frustrating
right
and
especially
because
frankly,
landlords
have
so
much
power
right
now,
because
the
vacancy
rate
is
so
low
and
housing
is
so
high
like
when
you
don't
have
the
ability
to
track
these
things,
and
it's
just,
I
feel,
like
renters-
are
really
kind
of
exposed.
E
E
We've
expanded
our
management,
analyst
team
internally
at
isd.
That
team
is
helping
with
some
of
the
adoption
of
existing
technologies,
so
the
housing
inspection
team.
Even
without
the
mobility
piece,
we
can
increase
our
data
entry
from
the
paper
to
the
system.
Obviously
there
is
an
administrative
burden
there,
but
that
is
a
change
that
we
are
looking
into
in
parallel
with
the
mobile
efforts,
but
I
do
believe
that
the
city
really
has
resourced.
E
This
work
on
our
side
and
I
won't
speak
for
do
it,
but
we've
received
great
partnership
from
them
from
the
enterprise
apps
team,
from
the
analytics
team
using
the
existing
data.
We
have
some
good
partnerships
and
collaborations
and
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
bring
some
good
things
back
in
in
the
next.
E
Currently
out
it
is
under
review.
Okay,
I
believe
that's.
E
K
It
okay
I'll
just
echo
colleagues
concerns
about
rodents
and
say:
if
we
have
a
pilot,
that's
working,
please
god,
let's
like
extend
it
as
quickly
as
possible
and
then
just
say,
and
maybe
come
back
on
another
trying
to
understand
when
when
housing
is
misclassified,
we've
had
some
situations
recently
where
assessing
and
the
isd
records
are
different
and
it
doesn't
seem
like
we
have
any
validation
check,
that's
sort
of
catching
that
so
I'm
trying
to
understand
that
process
and
and
also
understand
if
someone
wants
to
change
their
classification
in
a
way
that
we
might
actually
want
them
to
how
we
work
with
them.
L
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
isd
team.
I
have
to
say
I
think
this
is
the
best
attended
budget
hearing
yet
and
I
think
from
our
counselors
that
speaks
volumes,
not
just
the
important
work
you
do,
but
the
response
that
your
team
has.
I
know
that
you're
always
answering
our
office
calls
at
all
hours
and
if
it's
not
something
under
your
purview,
you
always
direct
us
to
the
right
department.
L
So
I
appreciate
that
because
one
of
the
things
as
counselors,
especially
at
large
counselors,
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
delivering
on
that
constituent
service
and
calls
from
across
the
city
so
you're
making
my
job
easier.
So
I
thank
you
for
that.
I
know
I
think
all
of
the
departments
that
have
come
to
us
during
these
budget
hearings
have
talked
about
the
staffing
shortage.
L
So
we
know
it's
across
the
city,
it's
across
the
country,
and
I
have
noticed
your
social
media
push
and
your
job
fairs,
and
I
do
have
to
shout
out
my
colleague,
council,
aurel
and
bj
in
his
office
for
organizing
the
d4
job.
Fair,
and
I
know
your
department
was
there,
and
that
was
great
and
have
you
had
a
I
would
like
to
just
know.
L
Do
you
have
a
positive
response
from
some
of
that
social
media
push
or
how's
that
looking
and
also
have
you
invested
in
like
workforce
development,
job
training
with
our
city,
kids
and
in
bps?
L
And
can
we
help
you
push
like
curriculum?
We
talk
a
lot
about
making
sure
that
we're
aligning
the
curriculum
in
our
high
schools
for
our
kids
to
be
certified,
licensed
trained
when
they're
graduating,
so
that
they
can
apply
for
these
jobs
and
have
the
correct
licensing
and
certification
or
at
least
know
what
the
next
step
is,
so
that
they
see
that
that's
in
their
future,
because
there
seems
to
be
lots
of
great
jobs
across
the
city
that
are
just
sitting
empty
and
we
have
lots
of
kids
who
aren't
working.
L
L
My
last
one
I
can
just
ask
now
is
have
you
seen,
and
I
assume
the
answer
is
yes,
but
your
needs
changed
since
covid19
and
what
needs
you
see
there,
because
a
lot
of
times
we're
budgeting
or
planning
for
normal
times,
and
we
know
through
covid
things
change
and
do
we
see
as
we're
coming
out
or
hopefully
coming
out
of
kova.
That
will
need
to
be
proactive.
B
Thank
you
very
much
councilman
good
afternoon.
First
and
foremost,
thank
you
for
the
kind
words
to
isd,
but
I
want
to
assure
you
that
it's
isd's
job
that's
our
job,
to
respond
to
not
only
the
council
but
obviously
to
the
constituents.
B
We
all
live
in
the
city
and
we
we
we
don't
want
to
see
anything
but
but
the
best
for
the
city.
We
have
family
here
we
have
kids
here
and
that's
what
we're
supposed
to
do.
There's
no
need
to
tank
this
panel.
I
think
that
once
again
we
have
probably
done
my
my
my
colleagues
here
are
the
hardest
working
people.
I
know
in
the
whole
city
of
boston.
I
can
honestly
say
that,
with
this
crew,
open
house
we've
had
excellent
response.
You
know,
so
we
have
a
job
fair
coming
this
weekend.
Obviously
you
know.
B
Hopefully
we
have
a
great
turnout,
but
our
press
secretary
has
assured
us
that
we
have
huge
response
to
it.
Asking
the
right
questions
with
youth.
B
I
think
that's
key
right
now:
okay,
back
it
up
a
little
bit
with
staff
shortage,
I
think
covid
covert,
hurt
and
covert
hurt
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
do
different
things
other
than
be
a
hands-on
interface
with
our
constituents
say
you
know,
1010
we're
very
proactive
in
the
field
and
very
proactive
as
far
as
individuals
coming
into
the
building
and
sorting
things
out
with
youth.
I
think
it's
key
traits
I
would
I
would
I
would
I
would.
B
If
you
consider,
if
it's
considered
just
the
the
the
opportunities
the
that
are
there,
if
you,
if
you
talk
to
individuals,
anybody
from
simple
you
know,
say:
roofing
jobs,
all
the
way
to
master
electricians,
people
looking
for
staff,
plumbers,
boarders,
you
know
it's
it's
it's
it's
difficult
for
small
contractors
and
also
for
larger
contractors
to
get
staffing
to
fulfill
these
positions,
excellent,
paying
positions
with
incredible
benefits.
I
think
it's
key.
It
could
be
key
for
the
city.
B
Isd
included
to
reach
out,
obviously
with
a
lot
of
these
trade,
the
unions
and
be
proactive
as
far
as
reaching
out
to
the
youth
and
to
younger
people
and
stare
them
towards
towards
this,
rather
than
you
know,
undertaking
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
student
loans.
You
know,
I
think,
that's
a.
I
think
it's
a
good
opportunity
for
the
city
right
now.
I
really
really
do
and
for
the
youth
of
the
city,
this
huge
huge
work
out
there
for
young
people
who
want
to
work
who
can
work.
M
Thank
you
and
thank
you.
I
know
you
said
we
don't
need
to
thank
you,
but
we
do
right
because,
like
we
work
for
the
entire
city,
I
mean
we
represent
our
constituents.
You
are
the
ones
who
are
addressing
and
responding
to
our
needs
and
helping
to
facilitate,
and
I
think
I
oh,
my
mike
is
moving.
I
you
know
during
covet.
I
think
I
had
the
opportunity
to
learn
a
lot
more
about
inspections
and
codes,
and
you
know
people
were
trying
to
figure
out
how
they
were
going
to
address.
M
You
know
repurposing
their
locations
for
other
things,
and
so
during
through
that
process,
I
was
able
to
learn
a
lot
about.
You
know
certain
different
codes,
so
I
just
want
you
just
to
say
thank
you
for
that
education,
and
so
I
just
have
a
few
questions
and
I
want
to
go
on
the
record
and
mr
english.
M
We
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
in
terms
of
communication
and
outreach
so
that
we
can
be
really
clear
about
what
the
residential
kitchen's
ordinance
was
supposed
to
set
people
up
for
success,
because
I've
heard
this
from
my
colleague
a
few
times
that
there's
some
folks
who
think
that
it's
something
else,
and
so
I
just
want
to
be
really
clear,
as
we
continue
to
do
outreach
that
people
recognize
that
it's
for
cottage
foods
and
it's
things
that
have
shout
life
like
the
last
thing
that
I
want
is
an
ordinance
that
we
passed
here
with
the
best
intentions
through
this
council
to
be
used
in
other
ways.
M
That
was
not
intended.
So
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
we
get
ahead
of
that,
so
that
we're
clear
that
this
is
for
cottage
foods,
things
that
do
not
require
special
temperature,
but
but
there
are
other
opportunities
to
look
at
other
ways
that
we
can
help
support
the
other
folks
who
are
doing
other
things
that
they
shouldn't
be.
So
I
just
want
to
state
that
for
the
record.
M
So
I
I
just
have
a
few
questions.
I-
and
I
really
do
appreciate
this
document
here.
I
don't
know
who
brought
it
to
me,
but
thank
you
for
this.
Was
it
you
the
chair,
thank
you
for
bringing
this
and
thank
you
to
michelle
for
printing
it
out
for
us
it's
this
is,
is
what
I've
been
using
for
some
of
my
notes,
I'm
not
sure
what
page
it's
on,
but
it's
in
regards
to
challenges
around
hiring
bypoc
employees
you
had
talked
about.
M
There
was
a
question
around
additional
language
competency
and
whether
or
not
people
get
compensated,
and
I
just
I'm
just
curious.
We
do
include
competency,
language
competency
as
part
of
the
preferred
qualifications
on
the
job
description,
but
but
I'm
curious
is,
are
folks
compensated
accordingly,
based
on
the
number
of
different
languages
that
they
speak.
B
M
No
that
I'm
clear
about,
I
guess
the
question
that
I
have
specifically
are
people
compensated
based
on
the
number
of
different
languages.
They
speak.
So,
let's
say,
for
instance,
counselor
anderson
is
a
genius.
She
speaks
like
eight
languages.
Is
there
like
a
scale
in
terms
of
like?
Well,
you
come
here
with
five
languages
as
a
result
of
that,
your
pay
rate
will
be
this,
as
opposed
to
this,
like
are
people
being
compensated
based
on
their
level
of
skill
and
language?
Specifically,
that's
the
question
to.
M
Isd
that
sounds
good
to
me
as
long
as
it's
like
I'm
clear,
I'm
not
a
lawyer,
so
I
don't
know
how
to
like
do
cross-examination,
but
so
that
I'm
clear
I'm
hearing
you
say
that
if
someone
speaks
five
different
languages
there
are
there
are.
There
will
be
special
considerations
made
to
compensate
them
accordingly,
based
on
that
skill
set
yes
or
no.
B
M
E
M
N
Thank
you.
What
I'm
hearing!
Thank
you.
What
you're
saying
is
that
it
is
a
consideration,
but
there
is
no
rote
requirement
that
you
speak
three
languages.
You
therefore
get
an
increase
of
five
thousand.
It
seems
like
they
will
consider
it
as
a
totality
of
the
package
that
you
bring
to
the
table.
So
like
it's
like
a
fun.
It's
like
a
it's
like
a
soft,
yes,
yeah.
N
M
I
just
want
to
know
for
the
record
that
counselor
edwards
was
always
really
extremely
helpful
for
me.
Obviously,
lawyers
usually
know
how
to
read
between
the
lines,
and
you
just
demonstrated
that
you're
going
to
be
my
wing
woman.
Whenever.
M
So
let
me
ask
this
question,
then:
in
terms
of
the
contracts
for
vendors,
I'm
just
curious:
what
are
we
doing
to
actively
and
proactively
increase
the
diversity
of
our
vendors,
like
we
have
an
opportunity
to
really
lean
in
to
this
part
of
our
diversity
goals.
Can
you
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
what's
being
done
in
that
front.
B
E
The
majority
of
our
purchasing
is
done
essentially
through
purchasing,
so
that's
handled
through
them
when
we
have
opportunities
and
are
doing
individual
purchases,
which
at
isd
is
primarily
things
like
promotional
materials
for
outreach
and
education
or
some
of
our
clothing.
We
do
use
the
the
listing
and
aim
to
work
with
with
vendors
that
are
part
of
that
listing,
but
our
we
do
have
a
fairly
small
pool
of
spending
that
falls
into
that
outside
of
central
purchasing.
Okay,.
M
Thank
you
for
that,
and
just
going
back
to
the
the
bad
actors
right
we
over
the
last
year
or
so,
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
calls
from
folks
who
are
living
either
in
bha
housing
or
under
property.
Management's
right.
These
are
folks
that
we
actually,
as
a
city,
have
provided
resources
and
financial
support
too.
So
in
many
ways
we're
accountable
to
the
services
or
not
so
much
so
the
services
that
are
not
being
rendered.
M
M
Because
I
think,
and
and
also
property
management
and
even
ourselves,
bha
like
there
needs
to
be
some
sort
of
either
like
we
must
either
update
the
standards
of
of
what
is
acceptable.
There
needs
to
be
some
sort
of
rules
put
in
place.
I'm
just
curious
because
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
calls
from
people
who
are
living
in
horrific
conditions
that
in
many
ways
I
feel
like
we
should
be
some
sort
of
accountability
on
our
ends.
B
Understandably,
but
I
can
honestly
say,
the
isd
responds
in
such
a
way
that
we
do
hold
these
individuals
accountable,
no
matter
who
who
they
are
and
where
they're
from
be
it
bha,
because
we
have.
We
have
standards
that
that,
through
housing,
through
building
through
codes
through
electoral
codes,
ultimately
you
know
we
will
have
you
in
court
and
I
can
say
that
nobody
wants
to
go
to
court.
If
you
don't,
if
you
do
not
comply,
we
will
have
you
in
court
and
nobody.
You
know.
Ultimately,
it's
going
to
cost
these
individuals
money
time
and
possible.
A
And
right,
that's
what
I'm
talking
about,
but
just
for
for
the
record,
I'm
only
flowing
in
five
accounts.
For
me
here
is
exaggerated.
Council
braden,
you
have
the
four.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
the
isd
team
for
being
here
and
all
the
incredible
work
that
your
inspectors
and
everyone
does.
I
have
gone
on.
I
I
do
call
it
a
rat
safari
when
we
we
go
out
with
leo
voucher
or
pat
around
austin
pride
and
so
and
it's
very
much
appreciated
by
our
constituents
when
we
actually
turn
up
and
go
knock
the
door
and
say
what's
show
us
what's
going
on.
I
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
just
want
to
clarify
the
director
of
enforcement
in
2022.
B
B
He's
probably
awake
at
three
in
the
morning,
he's
in
the
field
at
four
in
the
morning
active
himself
with
a
crew
that
nobody
that
goes
unheralded
unless
you
once
again,
unless
you're
up
at
four
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
seeing
these
in,
because
nobody
wants
to
see
the
rat
patrol
basically
yeah,
but
that,
with
with
the
technology
that
we've
been
blessed
with
and
funded
with,
I
think
it's
going
to
make
a
difference.
And
once
again,
I
have
to
stress
that
it
is
it's
education
through.
I
B
I
C
And
the
the
director
of
enforcement
position
is
posted
as
a
vacancy
on
our
website.
It
took
quite
a
long
time
to
craft
a
new
job
description,
get
it
properly
classified
and
compensated,
so
that
position
is
open
and
accepting
applications.
I
So
then,
just
to
follow
on
on
my
colleague,
counselor
box,
questioning
in
terms
of
scaffold
like
he
said
that
the
data
is
often
insufficient
for
enforcement,
and
the
other
challenge
is
that
housing
inspection
records
are
still
paper
based.
I
I
know,
having
done
some
research
and
our
office
has
been
looking
into
this
in
in
1985,
there
was
a
17f
request
about
management
information
for
the
management
information
service,
which
is
the
predecessor
of
do
it,
and
they
were
asking
for
digital
tools
to
help
support
isd
40
years
ago.
It
begs
the
question:
what
has
kept
us
so
long,
and
why
are
we
still
using
a
paper-based
system,
especially
when
we
have
thousands
of
complaints
about
cold
enforcement
issues
in
in
our
in
our
rental,
like
in
austin
brighton?
I
I
think
80
percent
of
the
of
our
neighborhood
is
rentals
and,
and
we
get
frequent
calls
about
very
distressing
living
situations,
and
yet
I
don't
know
like
having
a
director
of
enforcement
if
we
don't
have
a
a
digital
record
system
and
a
and
mobile
support
mobile
technology,
which
we
appropriated
funds
for
last
time
round.
I
think
it
really
is
a
great
concern
that
we
we
haven't,
got
we're
not
really
putting
the
foot
to
the
pedal
here
and
getting
this
done
very
fast.
E
So
two
pieces
on
that,
since
that
that
timeline
that
you
mentioned,
we
have
enacted
the
proactive
rental
registration
program
which
is
digitized,
so
there
was
significant
investment
put
into
that.
They
do
have
a
mobile
application.
We
have
that
information
digitized
and
that's
what
we're
looking
to
to
make
possible
across
all
of
our
housing
inspections.
E
E
We
work
very
closely
with
our
doit
colleagues,
but
we've
seen
increased
success
with
tech
implementation
by
having
staff
internally
to
really
help
with
the
adoption
help
with
the
training
the
on
the
ground
usage
of
these
tools,
even
when
the
city
does
invest
in
something
the
handoff
and
making
sure
that
it
is
a
useful
tool
to
our
staff
and
to
constituents
can
be
a
years-long
initiative
and
something
that
requires
continued
investment
of
time
and
potential
funds
to
improve
upon.
So
I
think
we
have
that
foundation
now
and
I'm
hoping
we'll
be
able
to
show
some
progress.
I
E
I
I
This
this
ordinance
was
already
originally
put
into
the
code
in
1854
and
in
1854
the
the
fine
was
fifty
dollars.
That
was
a
hell
of
a
lot
of
money
in
1854,
so
the
original
fine
was
18.
That's
about
a
value
of
1700
dollars
right
in
today's
money,
but
we're
only
charging.
We
only
we're
only
finding
300.
I
So
it's
one-fifth
of
the
value
of
the
fine
in
1854.,
so
we
will
be
actively
trying
to
increase
the
penalties
for
code
violations.
I
know
a
lot
of
our
scoff
landlords,
who
are
just
persistent
offenders
in
this
space,
just
see
this
as
the
cost
of
doing
business
and
they
write
it
off
as
a
business
expense,
and
yet
we
don't
get
any
improvements
and
you
folks
are
just
constantly
chasing
the
chasing
them
and
we're
not
getting
anywhere
fast,
so
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
effect
improve
this
situation.
I
The
other
question
I
had
was
you
know
in
the
light
of
all
the
you
know
in
the
building
department
is
in
the
light
of
recent.
Over
the
last
two
years
since
I've
been
in
office,
there
have
been
many
instances
of
fatalities
on
work
sites
and
and
recently
we've
had
fatalities
and
demolition
of
demolition
work
sites.
Is
that
part
of
the
remit
of
inspectional
services?
And
again,
do
you
have
the
resources
to
really
monitor
the
safety
on
those
sort
of
work
sites?
I
It
seems
like
I'm,
an
absolute
awe
about
the
amount
of
work
that
inspects
themselves.
This
this
division
does
in
the
city.
It's
massive
and
I
just
wonder
and
do
do
you
have
the
resources
to
to
to
do
the
job?
Well,
you
know
you
do
the
job
very
well,
but
you
know
it's
there's
always
going
to
be
some
weak
weak
points
in
the
in
the
system,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
you're
adequately
resourced
and
have
all
the
then
have
your
and
we're
able
to
support
your
work.
B
We
appreciate
that
very
much
council
braden.
Obviously
you
know,
obviously
recently
we've
had
some
tragic
events
in
the
city
of
boston,
but
if
you
look
at
the
amount
of
of
construction
in
the
city's
city
of
boston
per
square
foot,
we
want
the
safest
cities
in
the
world
once
again.
Tragically
recently,
we've
had
some
very
unfortunate
circumstances.
B
I
can
tell
you
that
once
again
that
our
our
building
division,
our
electrical
division,
our
mechanical
division,
ensure
that
that
that
code
is
met
in
even
gone,
exceeds
expectations
in
in
in
the
parameters
put
in
place
strictly
by
code.
We
follow
international
building
code,
international
mechanical
code,
but
also
with
massachusetts
amendments
which
makes
it
even
tighter
because
of
obviously
because
of
the
elements,
the
weather
and
different
parameters
within,
and
then
let's
go
to
boston.
B
N
N
I
am
an
attorney
and
I
used
to
live
at
isd,
representing
families
facing
eviction
and
foreclosure
in
boston
housing
court
and
have
many
frustrating
experience
from
my
time
as
an
attorney
trying
to
get
inspectors
out
to
folks
out
to
help
us
right
essentially
build
cases
against
some
landlords,
and
so
what
I'm
familiar
with
and
I'm
trying
to
see
if
it
still
is
around
a
project
pride,
is
that
or
is
it?
Has
it
taken
a
new
form
new
shape.
C
N
Like
the
community
sanitation
team,
too,
okay,
and
how
is
that?
How
is
that
working
in
terms
of
you
know
making
sure
that
residential
units
are
being
like
properly
maintained
or
or
or
fined?
I
think
there
was
a
lot
more
contours
to
the
program
as
I
knew
it
back
then,
but.
C
Sure
so,
under
that
program,
when
we
issued
violations
on
those
properties
and
then
paid
for
the
cost
of
boarding
and
securing
them
or
cleaning
the
lot
in
the
terms
of
vacant
lots,
we
then
took
the
value
of
how
much
that
cost
the
city
to
do
and
attach
that
as
a
lien
on
the
property
taxes
of
the
property
owner
we've
recently,
I
know
jessica's
been
really
interested
in
sort
of
revamping
and
and
restarting
that
program.
C
The
lean
process
is
challenging
right
because
you
have
to
effectively
create
an
entire
case
that
you
know
stands
up
to
scrutiny.
I
think
we
have
the
ability
and
the
interest
in
doing
it.
We've
sort
of
just
most
recently
started
having
these
conversations
again,
creating
a
manual
figuring
out
the
universe
of
of
what's
out
there,
that
we
would
need
to
address
so.
N
Yeah
I
mean
just
from
coming.
You
know
I
grew
up
matapan
high
park,
you
know,
I
know
this
is
an
issue
of
roxbury.
Certain
parts
of
dorchester
are
black
and
brown
neighborhoods
that
have
an
overwhelming
number
of
properties
that
are
seemingly
abandoned
or
that
are
neglected,
and
so
we
want
to
be
a
lot
more
aggressive,
and
so
I'm
interested
in
you
telling
us
what
are
the
tools
that
we
you
know?
How
can
we,
I
think
counselor
braden
eludes,
is
how
can
we
make
your
jobs
easier?
N
What
can
we
be
fighting
for
what
resources
specifically
to
target
those
vacancies,
whether
it's?
How
do
we
you
know?
I
know
there
are
other
council
colleagues
who
care
about
this
issue
as
well,
so
I'll
let
them
expound
on
that.
But
if
there's
any
information
you
want
to
proactively
give
us,
because
when
we
see
it
not
happening
folks
in
black
and
brown,
neighbors
are
going
to
be
like
they
don't
care
about
about
us.
They've
never
cared
about
us,
and
this
is
exhibit
a
right
and
it's
hard
for
us
to
be
like
well.
N
Actually,
what's
happening
is
they're
trying
the
lean
process.
What
tools
do
we
need
to
give
you
to
be
more
aggressive
on
that
issue?
If
someone
wants
to
address
that,
they
can.
I
have
additional
questions
if
not.
B
I
think
we,
I
think
I
think,
we'd
like
to
obviously
you
know
we
will
get
together.
I
can
assure
you
we
will
get
together
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
help.
You
know
implement
a
system
as
such
again
and
what
what
what
tools
we
can,
what
what
the
constituents
can
use
from
isd.
As
far
as
to
utilize,
you
know
force
these
individuals
clean.
The
property
can.
C
Honestly,
I'm
not
sure
it
was
before
my
time.
Okay
isd.
It
was
several
years
ago
when
that
maybe
around
2008
2009,
okay
during
the
economic
downturn.
D
D
D
Just
in
some
cases
can't
take
care
of
their
property,
and
maybe
you
know,
get
funding
issues
and
we
try
to
connect
them
with
dnd,
but
there
are
some
places.
Where
said
it's
just
abandoned
and
it
just
takes
us
taking
a
look
at
it
or
having
elected
officials.
Residents
give
us
some
information
say
hey,
you
know
this
needs
to
be
addressed
and
we're
really.
We
try
to
be
as
proactive
as
possible
as
pulling
title
and
getting
information
to
to
clean
up
the
area.
N
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
my
I
just
want
to
also
just
say
for
the
record
that
my
concern
is
often
more
so
with,
like
the
you
know:
llcs
the
corporate
landlords,
not
the
mom
and
pops
right.
You
lower
mills,
my
dad
grew
up
on
the
mattapan
lower
mills
line.
He
does
the
best
that
he
can
with
what
he
got.
Okay,
so
I'm
not
trying
to
go
after
the
little
the
little
ones
here
and
we
should
be
giving
them
resources
where
they,
where
they
can.
N
Second
question
is-
and
this
is
just
something
that
frustrates
me-
I
see
it
a
lot
in
in
matapan
just
like
dumpsters
right
and
in
these
really
tight
high
density
spaces.
There
are
dumpsters
that
are
just
overflowing
often
and
that
are
in
it's
just
disgusting.
I
don't
know
how
else
to
say
it
right
and
we're
talking
about
rat
safaris
out
in
austin.
N
I
hate
that
word,
but
they
exist
in
other
parts
of
the
city
as
well,
and
it's
oftentimes
these
private
property
managers
that
are
stuff
that
they
would
never
do
in
other
neighborhoods
in
the
city
and
allegedly
it's
because
they
don't
have
anywhere
else
to
put
the
dumpster.
N
So,
like
literally
I'm
talking
about
a
an
area,
a
street
where
there
are
three
dumpsters
aligned
right
outside
of
the
property
and
the
property
manager
is
saying,
there's
nothing
we
can
do
about
it
because
there's
nowhere
else
to
put
it
so
that
everyone
can
put
their
trash
in
this
dumpster.
N
I'm
wondering
if
there
are
ways
to
work
with
property
managers
and
owners
to
think
about
to
incentivize
them
to
find
some
sort
of
trash,
internal
trash
shoot
or
some
other
option
that
doesn't
require
people
to
literally
walk
by
and
look
at
trash
outside
of
their
windows.
When
we
talk
about
beautification,
it's
not
because
people
in
mattapan
are
in
other
neighborhoods
or
dorchester,
don't
like
want
to
live
with
a
dumpster
outside
of
their
door.
It's
because
they
feel
like
they
have
no
other
option
and
I
feel
like
in
other
neighborhoods.
N
B
Came
up
briefly
recently
in
jamaica,
plain
matter
of
fact,
where
their
claims
that
the
dumpster
well,
the
complaints
are
the
dumpsters
overflowing
people
walking
by
throwing
trash
in
work
with
it
and
the
property
manager
said
well,
there's
nowhere
else.
To
put
it
looked
at
the
site,
plenty
of
places,
to
put
it,
they
put
it
out
the
back.
It's
just
that
kind
of
access
to
it
was
a
little
more
difficult,
a
lot
more
difficult.
B
N
Have
you
worked
in
partner?
Yes,
so
I
guess
that's
an
example
of
working,
a
partnership
to
find
an
alternative
location.
Okay,
I'm
going
to
give
you
an
address
at
the
end
of
this,
because
it's
something
that
certain
consumers
have
complained
to
me
about
and
then
I'd
like
to
talk.
I
know
the
difficulty
of
the
work
that
you
do
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
like
staff
morale.
What
does
that
look
like,
especially?
N
I
find
it
especially
important
that
folks
aren't
getting
desensitized
to
the
difficulty
of
this
work,
because
I
think
it's
important
to
always
be
thinking
about.
What
can
we
do
differently
and
how
do
we
not
accept,
as
fact,
that's
our
neighborhoods,
it's
okay!
That's
our
neighborhoods
have
dumpsters
that
are
overflowing
with
trash,
because
that's
what
we
see
every
day,
so
I'm
curious
as
to
what
staff
morale
looks
like
in
isd
with
among
folks
who
deal
with
these
issues
every
day.
B
And
meet
the
individuals
at
work.
I
think
we
have
a
young
dynamic
group
in
there
better
than
I've
ever
seen
before,
with
more
opportunity
throughout
isd
for
younger
individuals
right
now
and
who
stepped
up
to
the
plate
have
stepped
up
to
the
plate
and
they
take
pride
in
the
city
in
the
very,
very,
very
thorough
and
very,
very
efficient
at
what
they
do
with
a
great
attitude.
N
Okay,
I
will
I
will
be
visiting
this
on
the
julius
last
question
related
to
just
digitizing
the
ability
to
get
permits
for
small
businesses
that
are
engaged
in
like
job
fair,
engage
in
that
like
street
fairs
and
things
of
that
nature.
We
just
I
want
to
see
us
be
able
to
do
that.
It's
something
that
small
businesses
talk
to
us
about
all
the
time,
understandable.
J
Thank
you,
madam
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
isd
and
shout
out
to
chief
irish
and
jessica
commissioner,
commissioner,
leiden
also
flavio
and
francis
great
team.
Thank
you
for
showing
up
to
the
job
fair.
Thank
you
for
being
part
of
those
neighborhood
walks
appreciate
all
your
efforts
here
in
the
city
of
boston
in
my
district,
so
the
signs
that
go
up
on
the
construction
sites.
J
D
Awesome
we
actually
also
implemented
that
technology
at
the
job,
fair
that
we
attended
when
we
had
our
the
last
week
before
last,
we
had
our
job
postings
and
also
had
scan
code
so
that
people
could
just
go
right
in
it'll.
Take
you
right
to
the
job
hosting
website.
So
it's
something
that
we're
looking
into.
J
Love
it
love
it
love
it.
The
investigation
enforcement
team
has
been
very
helpful
in
resolving
problem
problem
property
issues.
We
acknowledge
this
is
a
different
from
the
problem
properties
task
force.
Is
there
a
task
force
still
meeting
and
who
is
the
best
point
of
contact
to
report
on
that.
D
Yeah
we're
still
meeting
we
meet
once
a
month.
I
know
keith.
Oh
my
gosh.
What's
keith's
last
name,
yes,
you
have
keith
williams
from
property
task
force
manager.
We
are
meeting
actually
this
wednesday.
So
if
you
love
to
send
out
an
invite,
we're
always
looking
for
you
know,
resources
internally
and
externally.
Also,
you
know
partnerships
among
elected
officials
residents
so
that
they
can
bring
those
issues
to
our
attention
and
that
we
can
investigate
them.
So.
J
Thank
you.
No
further
questions,
madam
chan,.
A
Hi,
so
I
have
to
second,
my
colleagues
shout
out
to
assistant
commissioner
jessica,
thomas.
You
are
amazing
and
being
in
isd
and
or
in
this
field,
as
a
black
woman,
I'm
quite
sure
is
not
easy
and
you
do
it
with
ease
and
so
much
grace
and.
A
You
every
time
that
we've
had-
and
I've
only
been
in
we've
only
been
in
for
four
months
right
guys
and
we've
do
these
walk
throughs
and
we've
complained.
We've
had
a
lot
of
incidences
and
you
are
there
immediately
and
you
handle
this
issue
like
it's
easy,
but
I
know
it
must
not
be
your
case
load,
I'm
sure
it's
not
easy,
and
so
I
thank
you,
commissioner,
leiden
for
having
such
a
wonderful
team
as
well
as
flaviu
who
who's
on
your
team
as
well,
that
we've
had
to
communicate
with
my
question.
Really.
A
I
remember
having
to
go
to
isd
quite
often
for
permits
or
other
applications,
and
your
applications
are
seem
to
be
outdated
and
to
my
counselor's
colleagues,
our
point
are
we
able
to
redo
them
so
that
they
look
so
that
we
can
sometimes
almost
almost
not
legible
right,
like
it's
kind
of
blurry
kind
of
old
and
even
language,
even
in
the
structure
that
it's
put
together,
a
lot
of
people
seem
to
be,
especially,
you
know,
developers
or
others
have
talked
about
how
the
forms
are
very
outdated.
Where
are
we
with
that?
E
E
We've
alluded
to
several
that
are
still
paper
processes,
so
those
are
our
top
priorities,
but
we're
looking
to
improve
upon
existing
ones
as
well,
so
building
permitting
was
updated
several
years
ago.
Rental
registration
is
another
good
example
that
was
ruled
out
when
the
program
originally
was,
but
that's
something
that
is
sort
of
due
for
an
update,
and
these
are
all
projects
that
we
work
closely
with
do
it
on.
So
we
are
mindful
of
our
time
and
resources
and
making
sure
that
we
we
prioritize
our
work
with
them.
A
Thank
you.
How
long
does
it
typically
take
for
an
application
file
through
isd
before
to
receive
a
cba
hearing.
B
And
the
application
through
isd
itself,
that's
a
ver,
relatively
quick
turnaround
provided
the
documentation.
Is
there
basically
going
to
do
a
zoning
analysis?
So
if
all
documentation
is
provided,
you
know
the
that's.
We
could
turn
that
around
within
within
30
days.
Do
a
thorough
zoning
analysis
once
again
we
are.
This
is
an
excuse.
It's
just
a
reality.
A
Okay,
will
your
hearings
or
public
hearings
remain
virtual
or
are
you
will
you
do
both.
C
Obsessed
with
the
hybrid
hearings.
B
A
As
far
as
building
inspectors,
I
saw
that
you
listed
five.
Is
that
and
I
I
I
could
be
mistaken-
I
saw
that
in
the
answer
you
how
many
building
inspectors
do
you
have.
A
How
large
or
this
the
scope
of
work
like
some,
how
many
buildings
or
how
many
inspections
on
a
regular
basis
per
week?
Would
you
say
that
they
would
have
to
do.
C
Generally,
most
of
our
inspectors
do
anywhere
from
seven
to
eight
inspections
during
the
day
every
day,
they're
all
assigned
geographically
to
different
wards.
Some
wards
are
obviously
much
busier
than
other
awards.
We
do
have
a
few
folks
assigned
to
the
same
award
to
kind
of
manage
that
workload.
So
it's
a
it's
a
all-day
affair
with
the
inspections,
but
I'd
say
generally
probably
seven
or
eight
inspections
a
day.
A
And
where
so,
in
addition
to
the
job
fair
that
I'm
I've
sent
around
to
everyone
to
show
up
to
how
else
can
again
to
my
colleagues,
how
else
can
we
facilitate
or
support
you
in
increasing
capacity.
B
We've
reached
out
we've,
you
know,
institutes
at
wentworth,
institute,
northeastern
university.
You
know
looking
for
architects
engineers
say
perhaps
you
know
once
again:
that's
planned
zoning
communication
with
different
trades
with
different
unions,
and
I
think
generally
word
of
mouth
and
communication
through
through
various
resources
throughout
the
city
which
we
we
have.
We
have
a
wonderful
relationship
with
schools
with
with
different
individuals
throughout
the
schools.
We
work
with
planning
and
engineering
through
schools.
A
Well,
thank
you
for
building
up
their
professional
development.
I
guess
so
in
terms
of
language
access.
I
noticed
that
you
have,
I
think,
eleven
thousand
allocated,
or
was
it
this
year,
eleven
thousand
dollars
a
location
for
language
access.
D
I
can
add
really
quickly,
I'm
the
language
in
communications,
communication,
access
liaison
for
our
division,
so
I'm
always
trying
to
figure
out
creative
ways
to
you
know
print
out.
You
know
marketing
material,
that's
in
most
all
the
languages
that
we
use
and
also
making
sure
that
our
liaisons
conduct
community
outreach
in
those
areas.
We
drop
off
pamphlets
to
different
libraries.
We
do
door
knockers,
but
it
is
important
for
us
to
make
sure
that
the
the
language
piece
is
equitable
and
we're
transparent
and
going
out
and
helping
folks
in
multiple
languages.
So.
A
Thank
you
for
that,
because
I
know
you
do
I've
been
to
your
meetings.
Okay.
Well,
I
think
I
have
a
couple
other
questions
and
I
will
yield
my
time.
That's
asked
that's
been
asked.
That's
been
asked.
A
So
I
think,
for
district
seven
in
particularly
council,
religion
was
talking
about
lots
and
private
properties
in
terms
of
fines
and
we're
concerned
we're
in
a
process
right
now
with
council,
along
with
council
rural,
in
looking
at
how
we
can
file
something
to
help
you
to
either
reinforce
or
that
we
find
some
sort
of
program
right
to
get
funds
to
lower
income
families
to
repair
or
maintain
their
properties.
A
A
lot
of
properties
in
d7
in
particularly
and
in
d4
looks
abandoned,
and
we
would
like
to
do
something
about
that.
So
I
think
that
I've
heard
enough
about
you
know
the
answers
or
the
from
the
questions
that
consolation
has
asked,
would
love
to
collaborate,
the
three
of
us
to
see
how
we
can
move
forward
in
helping
you
to
instate
something-
or
maybe
it's
already
there-
that
we
can
do
to
move
forward
on
those
efforts.
B
We
would
love
to
do
that
chair
president,
we're
just
once
again,
you
know
our
compliance
through
assistance.
We
we
want
individuals
to
take
care
of
their
homes.
We
want
to
help
them
guide
them
to
resources
if
they
do
not
have
the
resources
through
programs.
That
d
has
to
offer,
and
such
we
just
in
in
an
expedited
manner,
to
in
the
interest
of
safety,
first
and
foremost
in
the
interest
of
of
life
quality
of
life.
That's
that's
that's
our
goal.
You
know
we
really
would
like
to
steer
individuals
to
the
proper
resources.
B
K
Thanks
so
much
madam
chair
and
thanks
again,
I
just
have
a
couple
more
questions.
One
is
about
on
the
dumpster
topic.
Can
you
explain
to
me
when
folks
get
temporary,
dumpsters
sort
of
for
construction
projects?
I
think
we've
often
seen
them
become
really
not
temporary
at
all
and
there's
a
sense
that
they
just
sort
of
roll
over
indefinitely
and
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
much
screen.
K
So
we've
got
projects
where
people
don't
are
not
doing
any
discernible
work
on
the
project
for
a
long
period
of
time,
but
they
are
holding
a
couple
of
parking
spots
with
dumpsters
that
may
or
may
not
be
overflowing,
and
so
I
guess
one
of
the
questions
has
trickled
up
is
like
how
we
issue
those
and
whether
there's
any
sort
of
checkpoint
when
they
were
rolling
them
over
on
sort
of
like
saying
hey,
is
this
project
ever
continuing?
Do
you
get
a
dumpster
for
two
years?
B
Basically,
a
dumpster
construction
site
you'll
need
a
permit
from
the
boston
fire
department
as
far
as
it
dumps.
It
itself
goes
obviously
in
the
construction
site.
If
this
is,
if
the
construction
is
completed,
that
dumpster
should
be
gone,
and
if
you
reach
out
to
ysd,
we
will
make
sure
that
proper
methods
are
used
to
help.
K
You
so,
commissioner,
commissioner,
the
type
that
I'm
thinking
of
are
the
ones
that
go
on
the
street
because
they're
outside
of
like
residential
projects
and
and
we've
seen
a
bunch
of
them
that
just
sit
there,
where
it's
not
at
all
obvious.
There
could
be
some
internal
work
going
on.
There
could
not
be,
but
they
just
sort
of
sit
for
a
long
long
time.
B
K
Okay,
all
right
all
right
I'll
flag
it
for
them
later.
The
shoot
there
was
an
other
was
one.
That
was
definitely
yours,
though,
that
just
ran
out
of
my
head.
Can
you
guys
speak
a
little
bit
to
you
see.
Problem
properties
is
no
longer
under
you,
guys
you're
on
it,
but
it's
keith
williams
is
in
which
department.
C
So
it
was
housed
in
neighborhood
services
for
probably
the
last
eight
or
nine
years.
Recently,
chief
irish
became
the
chair
of
the
task
force,
so
it's
moved
into
the
operations
cabinet.
I.
K
See
so
it
sort
of
moved
up
rather
than
over,
okay
got
it.
Madam
chad
is
a
burning
question,
that's
on
the
edge
of
my
mind,
but
I've
forgotten
it
and
I
don't
want
to
filibuster
so.
A
We
have
thank
you
counselor.
We
have
pam
kosher
here.
A
O
Yes,
all
right,
thank
you.
So
when
I
was
sitting
up
there,
I
was
representing
the
boston
municipal
research
bureau,
which
is
where
I
work,
but
since
we're
talking
about
rat
safaris
and
all
sorts
of
exciting
things
like
that,
and
that's
been
on
my
mind
as
well,
I
wanted
to
take
a
moment
of
your
time
for
public
testimony.
O
O
And
if
there's
something
that
can
be
done
about
that,
maybe
we
put
it
out
very
early
in
the
morning
or
some
other
thing.
I
know
no
matter
when
it
gets
done.
It
will
be
some
of
what
of
an
inconvenience
for
somebody
who's
either
coming
home
late
from
work
or
leaving
so
early
that
they
might
not
meet
the
hours,
but
that
happens
now
as
well.
A
B
I
believe
there
is
a
window
on
the
trash
on
the
on
when
it
can
be
dropped
on
the
curbside
and
when
it
can
be
when
the
trash
receptacles
have
to
be
brought
back
in,
I
believe,
that's
a
24-hour
window,
but
I
am
not
100
sure
code
enforcement
will
be.
The
ones
will
be
able
to
dictate
the
hot
hours
as
far
as
that
goes
same
time.
I
think
it's
a
brilliant
idea
not
to
have
plastic
bags
on,
I
think
that'll
be
a
huge,
a
huge
help
in
cutting
back
on
rodent
population.
B
K
Yeah,
I
still
can't
remember
the
main
one,
but
there
was
one
thing
I
mentioned
before
that
I
forgot
to
follow
up
on,
which
was
just
this
question
of
of
like
housing
classification,
so
we
had,
for
instance,
a
house
that
was,
it
was
not
permitted
under
your
guys's
system
to
be
a
lodging
house
like
a
for
it
had
a
basement
unit
that
was
illegal,
etc,
but
it
had
managed
to
get
taxed
by
assessing
sort
of
under
that
new
category.
K
And
so
what
I'm
trying
to
understand
is
do
we
have
any
internal
validation
systems
because
it
was
a
more
favorable
assessing
category
for
them
the
way
and
and
so
sort
of
it
came
up?
Well,
what
do
we
do
about
this
and
it's
not
clear
those
two
systems
talk
to
each
other,
so
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
had
any
comments.
They.
B
Don't
talk
to
each
other
and
it's
a
it's
a
about
what
happens
in
a
lot
of
times
an
individual
puts.
You
know,
they'll,
do
construction
on
the
house
on
a
home,
obviously
increase
the
value
of
the
home
and
assessing
does
not
you'll
get
a
two
family.
It
goes
to
a
three
family
change.
The
use
of
occupancy
through
1010
mass
ave
never
report
that
to
assessing
so
now
individuals
are
getting
taxes
or
two.
They
go
to
turn
it
over
seven
years
later,
it's
a
three.
B
We
haven't
paid
taxes,
it's
three
for
seven
years
now
you
pay
taxes
as
a
two.
So
it's
financially,
you
know
a
gain
for
them
not
to
pay
the
taxes
on
the
three.
They
don't
want
to
pay
so
a
lot
of
times
it's
the
individual
themselves.
But
then
here
we
go
they're
coming
back
to
10,
10.,
say
well,
I
permitted
this
work.
Well,
you've
never
had
it
assessed
as
such.
I
think
it's
a
good
point,
council
labor
to
have
correspondence
between
assessing
and
1010
mass
f.
B
That's
adding
another
layer
for
the
constituency,
though
I
want
to
make
sure
that
is
known,
because
sometimes
you
know
the
layers
peeling
back
to
in
order
to
achieve
occupancy
of
that
particular
building
becomes
problematic
or
time
consuming
for
the
constituents.
So
I
would
I
would
I
would
be
favorable
I
would.
I
would
be
on
board.
You
know
another
layer
to
put
on
your
constituency
to
go
to
assessing,
to
change
the
occupancy
before
you're,
coming
to
isd,
to
complete
that
occupancy
for
a
certificate
of
argument
in
order
to
habitate
that
building
as
a
new
occupancy.
K
Madam
chair,
I
I
think
I'm
going
to
give
up
on
my
other
thing
and
just
say
that
I
should
join
the
chorus
on
saying
that
jessica's
team
is,
is
awesome
and
working
with
my
my
constituent
services
folks.
So
thanks
so
much
for
that.
Thank.
A
You
castlebach,
you
do
have
two
minutes
we'll
come
back
and
wrap
up.
If
you
remember
counselor
murphy,
you.
L
Have
the
floor,
thank
you
quickly.
I'd
like
to
thank
you,
pam
for
bringing
that
up.
I
met
with
code
enforcement
a
few
months
ago
and
brought
that
same
concern
up
because
on
my
street
I
have
several
apartment
buildings
and
did
learn
that
the
rule
is
when
it's
stored
during
the
week.
It
has
to
be
in
a
barrel,
but
when
they
bring
it
out
to
the
curb
it
can
be
in
very
flimsy
white
kitchen
trash
bags
and
several
apartment
buildings.
Just
a
few
houses
away
have
piles
higher
than
you
sitting
there.
L
So
there's
a
lot
of
trash
and
always
wondered
why,
at
some
like
level,
are
we
not
requiring
that
a
small
dumpster
or
somehow
it's
stored,
because
by
the
time
the
trash
collectors
come,
it
makes
it
harder
for
them
to
do
their
job,
but
there's
always
open
bags
and
trash
and
a
huge
rat
problem
in
our
neighborhood.
So
we'd
love
to
talk
after
this
about
how
we
can
do
something
here
to
help
you
change
that
rule,
because
it
must
it
is
a
problem
across
the
city
and
so
that
that
was
all.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you.
So
I
just
have
a
few
questions,
mainly
in
regards
to
outreach
and
engagement
strategies,
and
I'm
just
curious.
B
Know
it's
got
to
be
permitted.
Obviously
you
know
we're
going
to
take
a
look
at
the
drawings
going
to
take
a
look
at
the
zoning
for
the
particular
area.
Expanded
living
space
being
into
the
basement
or
the
attic
correct
building
code
is
met
for
safety.
Once
again.
That's
that's
all
isd
right.
There.
M
M
It's
more
advocacy
and
less
compliance,
and
so
I'm
just
curious
about
how
you
all
are
getting
ahead
of
this
conversation,
because
there
are
some
folks
who
you
know
whether
it
be
through
language
access
or
just
not,
knowing
that
they
were
have
they
had
to
go
through.
The
proper
channels
have
extended,
but
they're
not
renting
out
the
unit
they
just
built
a
basement
without
the
proper
you
know,
protocols
in
place.
So
how
are
you
supporting
these
folks.
B
If
they're
not
going
to
permit
the
work
itself,
we're
not
going
to
support
that
that's
the
bottom
line,
because
once
again
safety
has
to
be
met.
Then
you
take
different
different
quality
of
life
issues,
we're
talking
about
rodents
and
trash
momentarily
and
if
you're
going
to
put
you
know,
other
individuals
in
this
particular
footprint
in
this
house,
so
you're
going
to
multiply
that
by
five
permits
are
are
our
lifeblood
and
that's
first
and
foremost
for
for
safety.
Yeah!
That's!
First,
because
you
have
you
have
below
grade
bedrooms
with
no
access,
no
egress
windows.
B
M
Strikes,
I
guess
where
I'm
trying
to
get
to
is
helping
people
who
have
already
gone
down
that
rabbit
hole
right
as
a
intervention
right
and
if
the
whole
idea
of
expanded
dwelling
is
to
help
support
the
housing
market.
What
can
isd
do
to
support
folks
who
have
already
gone
down
that
rabbit
hole
without
the
proper.
B
B
M
And
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
saying
is
you
need
to
speak
to
the
folks
who
do
the
permitting
you
need
to
get
contractors
involved,
and
so,
when
you
start
saying
all
of
these
things,
it
then
becomes
unattainable
for
folks
who
didn't
who
didn't
go
through
the
proper
mechanism
since
place,
because
they
didn't
know
to
so
jessica.
I
see
you
were
trying
to
say
something
so.
D
Please
outreach
perspective.
I
I
also
feel
like
we
do
have
adu
workshops
and
in
pilot
programs.
I
believe
the
office
of
new
urban
mechanics
recently
has
has
a
pilot
program
for
homeowners
who
are
looking
to
go
down
that
route,
and
I
know
from
a
zona
perspective,
they
do
streamline
that
process
so
that,
if
you
are
again,
if
it's
already
been
done
and
they're
trying
to
come
in
and
get
help,
they
can
definitely
start
with
our
constituent
services
division.
We
can
help
them
to
see
where
they
are.
D
As
long
as
like
I
said,
they're
willing
to
adhere
to
those
guidelines,
we
want
to
be
helpful
and
make
sure
that
people
can
stay
in
their
homes.
We
do
understand
that
from
equity
standpoint
that
this
is
also,
you
know,
may
be
able
to
help
with
paying
rent
paying
their
mortgage.
So
so
we
do
have
adu
workshops
where
we're
teaching
people
how
to
do
it.
D
K
D
D
We
can
make
yes,
so
I'm
the
again
I'm
the
language
and
communications
access
liaison
for
our
division,
so
we
can
make
sure
that
those
multiple
languages
will
have
translators
there
we'll
have.
We
can
set
up
all
of
that
to
make
sure
that
it's
this
equitable
language-wise.
M
Thank
you
for
that,
and
I
did
have
the
same
note
that
counselor
anderson
had
in
regards
to
your
language
access.
I
think
it
was
11
000
and
for
me,
because
we
have
been
so
adamant
about
making
sure
that
communication
is
equitable
right,
because
what
I
have
seen
is
that
a
lot
of
immigrants
who
are
non-english
speakers
have
called
our
office
in
regards
to
this
very
specific
opportunity,
and
they
don't
understand
how
to
navigate
the
system.
They
don't
understand
how
to
get
into
compliance.
D
Okay,
yeah,
and
I
would
definitely
encourage
those
folks
to
you-
know-
invite
us
to
meetings
that
you
guys
are
attending
on
where
you're
hearing
and
we
go
out
to
community
meetings.
We
can
even
set
up
personal
meetings
where
we
can
have.
You
know
translators
who
are
there,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
everyone
is
aware
of
the
process
and
there
aren't
any
barriers
to
language.
So.
M
Thank
you
for
that
and
my
last
question
before
I
get
the
buzzer
is
you
talked
about
some
of
the
rate
of
the
vacancies
that
we
have
and
I'm
just
curious
in
terms
of
just
pay.
What
that
looks
like
does
it
because
I
know
nobody
wants
to
work
for
peanuts
these
days,
which
is
what
we're
asking
people
to
do
we're
asking
them
to
do
more
with
very
little,
and
I
don't
think
that
that
is
setting
you
up
for
success.
So
I'm
just
curious.
M
B
B
M
Okay,
I
know
the
the
buzzer
runoff.
I
guess
the
question
for
me
is
really
about
what
I
hear
from
a
lot
of
city.
Employees
is
that
they
can't
afford
to
live
here
in
the
city
of
boston
and
the
pay
does
not
reflect
that,
and
so
it
just
makes
it
harder
for
us
to
retain
and
and
maintain
talent
here
in
boston.
M
So
so
I'm
encouraged
to
hear
that
that
your
departments
are
are
competitive,
but
I
do
believe
that
that
has
been
what
I've
heard
out
in
these
streets,
that
it
makes
it
really
difficult
for
city
employees
to
to
secure
employment
here
and
stay
here.
B
A
I
One
thing
we've
been
looking
at
is
in
perusing
the
budget
and
looking
at
how
it's
presented
in
cabinets
and
then
made
into
departments,
and
each
department
has
programs,
but
sometimes
looking
at
the
looking
at
the
budget.
It's
very
difficult.
Individual
programs
have
multiple
initiatives
within
them
and
it's
hard
to
discern
the
approp,
the
the
appropriation
between
initiatives
within
a
particular
department.
So
you
have
it
all
lumped
together
in
one
big
one,
big
lump.
I
The
isd
budget
is
presented
in
four
programs,
but
there's
no
detail
presented
on
the
individual
divisions
within
the
program.
So
it's
it's.
Sometimes
it's
difficult
to
differentiate.
You
know
the
duties
and
responsibilities
between
the
different
programs,
and
it
also
feels
like
you,
folks,
have
just
been
thrown
the
ball
in
so
many
different
cases.
You
know,
let's
see
in
1981
the
building
and
housing
inspection
department
was
abolished
and
their
powers
and
duties
were
just
thrown
over
to
inspectional
services.
I
The
building
department
is
now
in
program.
Three
of
the
isd
housing
inspection
is
now
a
division
of
field
services.
With
measures
was
thrown
over
to
isd
as
well.
The
zoning
board
of
appeal
is
managed
under
program.
That's
isd
administration
program
too,
and
then
the
zoning
commission
is
managed
under
program,
three
isd,
buildings
and
structures.
It
just
seems
that
this
whole
isd
is
a
huge
edifice.
It
always
blows
my
mind,
the
the
sheer
number
of
different
programs.
I
C
C
Different
different
programs,
so
different
requirements
come
up
all
the
time
right.
We've
we've
added,
I
think
three
new
ordinances
to
isd's
regulatory
authority
over
the
past
year
and
a
half
we
slot
them
in
where
they're
most
appropriate,
especially
on
the
enforcement
and
inspection
side.
C
Different
inspectors
are
empowered
to
enforce
different
codes,
so
the
housing
inspector
can
issue
building
violations,
so
we
have
to
make
sure
they
kind
of
all
fit
a
line.
I
think
the
the
department
itself
is
set
up
in
a
efficient
way.
It's
just
more
of
adding
the
new
programming
and
and
improving.
It
is
a
it's
an
ever
iterative
process.
Let's
put
it
that
way,.
I
I
think
one
concern
I
have
is
that
you
know
things
like
the
data,
the
data
management,
or
you
know
the
digital
tools
issue
has
been
on
the
you
know,
look
40
years
ago.
We
suggested
it
just
as
wondering
if
like
where,
where
does
the?
I
Where
does
the
inertia
come
from
in
in
terms
of
like
40
years,
is
a
long
time
to
wait
for
for
that
support,
and
I
know
we've
had
cycles
of
recession
and
all
the
rest
of
it,
but
having
your
your
department's
work
and
giving
them
the
tools
to
do
the
job.
I
think
you're
doing
an
amazing
job,
but
I
think
there's
so
many
other
tools
that
we
could
give
you.
That
would
make
it
more.
That
would
give
you
more
teeth.
I
The
fact
that
we
have
landlords
that
are
persistent
offenders
who
do
not
improve
they
have
thousands
of
violations
on
their
books
and
that
nothing
changes
is
of
great
concern
to
us
that
you
know
to
cancel
a
box
point.
You
know
it.
It
sort
of
feels
like
certain
entities
like
landlords
who
are
chronic.
Offenders
are
just
running
rings
around
us
and
that
we're
we're
not
really
handling
the
situation.
I
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councillor
braden,
I
must
say
one
thing
that
did
come
out
of
covert
was
the
implementation
of
of
of
systems
that
have
made
isd
much
more
streamlined
and
efficient.
It's
because
of
this
young
lady
right
here
we
do
have
a
huge
asset
sitting
to
my
right
and
I
can
honestly
say
that,
and
just
with
skeletal
staff,
with
interface
between
constituency
and
isd
staff
being
digitized,
the
curve
is,
I
think,
you're,
going
to
see
a
big
huge
improvement
since
1984..
B
I
Good
to
know
and
the
other
issue,
the
other
question,
if
I
have
a
moment,
is
you
know,
in
the
light
of
extreme
weather
events
and
the
happenings
in
new
york
with
flooded,
basement
departments,
etc.
I
don't
know
if
we
are
factoring
in
maybe
increased
diligence
around
basement
departments
and
and
below
grade
living
accommodations
in
areas
that
are
maybe
going
to
be
prone
to
to
flooding.
B
We
absolutely
do
we
have
low
level
we
have.
We
have
we're
instructed
by
fema
for
these
guidelines
and
we
have
fema
maps
and
also
we're
instructed
by
the
federal
government
we're
mended
mandated
by
the
federal
government
to
make
these
low-lying.
We
have
the
flood
zones
and
construction
has
to
adhere
to
certain
parameters
within
those
flood
zones
and
the
engineering
behind
the
construction.
Particular
types
of
construction.
A
I
wonder
if
you
can
tell
me
just
take
me
through
the
community
engagement
process,
what
or
community
meeting
process
what
from
beginning
to
for
those
for
those
who
are
watching
as
well
as
you
know,
just
for
me
to
be
able
to
fully
explain
to
my
constituents.
What
is
the
process.
D
Well,
as
far
as
engagement,
we
try
to
interface
with
the
community
in
several
ways
we
do
show
up
to
neighborhood
community
meetings
that
are
just
been
great
because
a
lot
of
them
have
been
virtual
now,
so
it
makes
it
easier
to
connect
with
more
people
on
those
platforms
wouldn't
feel
like
in
the
past.
When
they
were
in
person,
it
was
just
kind
of
the
same.
You
know
people
who
would
be
able
to
come
up
now.
It's
a
lot
more
people
are
joining
those
calls.
D
We
do
do
community
walk
throughs,
we
are
proactive
and
when
we
are
out
for
community
walk-throughs,
we
leave
door
knockers
for
residents
where
we
may
see
you
know
issues
with
their
homes.
We
have
community
liaisons
who
cover
specific
districts
and
they're,
really
good
about
having
you
know,
communi.
They
have
a
lot
of
outreach
with
folks,
whether
it
be
in
person
over
the
phone
through
email.
D
Our
call
center
also
filters
a
lot
of
issues
where
we're
able
to
follow
up
with
folks
when
things
do
come
up
so
again
we're
a
lot
of
the
times
we
are
out
in
the
field
helping
out
residents
in
the
city,
but
also
in
taking
information
through
email
through
phone
calls.
We
have
people
who
call
my
cell
phone
all
day
and
all
night,
and
so,
as
issues
come
up,
we
were
right
there.
So
thank
you.
A
A
Yeah
field
services,
a
decrease
of
one
percent
isd
commissioner's
office;
a
decrease
of
0.82
from
22
to
23.
and
pm
administration;
a
decrease
of
0.62.
E
I'm
going
to
have
to
follow
up
with
the
specifics.
Some
of
our
major
decreases
this
year
are
related
to
the
leak,
the
lease
of
our
building
space,
decreasing,
which
is
likely
being
represented
across
all
of
our
our
budgets.
We're
not
seeing
a
decrease
in
head
count
across
any
of
those
organizations.
We're
increasing
head
count
at
isd
yeah.
The
lease
is
the
major
place,
we're
recognizing
savings
actually
next
year,
okay,
but
happy
to
follow
up
with
more
specifics.
E
That
would
not
we're
not
losing
space,
so
it's
a
savings
just
through
the
lease
through
property
management.
Okay,
but
again
I
can
follow
up
with
specifics
when
I
dive
in,
but
no
loss
of
head
count
or
cuts
that
we
expect
to
impact
our
service
levels.
A
A
I
don't
have
any
other
questions
for
now:
counselor
bach,
we're
wrapping
up.
You
have
three
minutes.
K
Thanks
so
much,
I
remembered,
I
think,
both
counselor
flynn
and
I
are
on
record
on
the
get
tier
issue
and
just
our
concerns
in
general
about
these,
like
you
know,
immediate
delivery
sites
taking
over
retail
space,
and
I
guess
it's
a
place
where
I
feel
like.
I
love
so
much,
commissioner,
that
your
organization's
like
perspective
on
anyone
trying
to
set
something
up
in
the
city
is
we
want
to
work
with
you?
K
How
can
we
help
you
be
in
compliance,
but
I
think
the
spirit
of
this
venture
is
not
the
spirit
of
what
we
want
for
ground
floor
retail,
and
so
I
don't
really
understand
why
they
were
allowed
to
open
when
they
didn't
have
a
walk-in
retail
like
function.
I
don't
really
understand
why
we're
sort
of
enabling
it
so
can
someone
walk
me
through.
B
I
can
address
that
please
counseling,
thank
you,
we're
actually
not
enabling
it.
We
have
very
strict
guidelines
that
we
have.
They
may
have
pulled
one
over,
but
they
actually
don't
notice
that
this
specific
property
in
brighton.
I
think
that
you
may
be
referring
to
perhaps
they're
basic
they're
moving
get
here
in
those
types
of
businesses
their
warehouse
use.
If
that
warehouse
use
is
not
allowed
in
that
particular
zone,
they
cannot
operate
there
unless
they
have
point
of
sale
and
once
again
with
the
dock
stores,
with
the
blacked
out
walls.
K
So,
commissioner,
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
thought
I
would
think
that
the
same
thing
would
apply
to
their
their
use
on
winter
street.
It's
right,
it's
technically
on
flynn's
side
of
the
district,
but
it's
they're.
B
K
K
Okay,
great
thank
you,
commissioner,
and
and
can
can
I
just
get
like
60
seconds
on
cba
reforms
where
we
are
on
implementation.
C
Cba
reforms
that
were
outlined
in
the
executive
order
from
2020
several
provisions
in
that,
let
me
pull
up
that
sheet.
Every
single
one
of
those
reforms
has
been
implemented
to
some
degree,
so
this
was
disclosure
of
property
and
project
interest
by
the
board
members.
This
was
a
prohibition
on
having
any
involvement
in
a
case
that
they
have
received
compensation
for
for
five
years
before
the
date.
The
appeal
was
filed
with
the
board.
That's
for
board
members
as
well.
C
We
prohibit
members
and
alternates
from
having
any
subsequent
business
dealings
with
a
project
that
they
voted
on
for
at
least
two
years
after
the
vote
require
annual
statements
of
financial
interest
from
board
members.
We
do
a
comprehensive
ethics
training
that
involves
training
assistants
from
the
state
about
board
processes
about
the
zoning
code
about
principles
of
zoning
law.
We
do
that
at
the
time
of
appointment
and
on
an
ongoing
basis.
C
C
We
have
a
lot
electronic
circulation
of
plans
and
we're
making
regular
improvements
to
our
existing
database
of
of
zba
cases.
So
we
have
the
cba
tracker,
which
is
now
public
facing
site
that
we're
looking
to
add
more
information
and
data
on
so
more
improvements
to
come.
But
I
think
that
was
language
and
communications
access,
so
translation
services
are
available.
We
recently
added
babel
notices
to
all
of
our
zba
notices,
so
that
folks
knew
that
it
was
an
important
legal
document
and
we
have
a
bugs
person
for
the
zba
zba
ambassador.
M
Thank
you
councilman.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
I
I
what
I
have
three
minutes.
Okay,
so
I'm
just
curious
about
the
flooding
zone.
I
forget
which
of
my
colleagues
brought
it
up,
but
I
am
curious
about
some
of
the
boston
development
projects
that
have
come
up
over
the
last.
M
You
know
five
to
ten
years,
and
some
of
these
have
been
in
areas
where
there
have
been
flooding
issues
and
we've
heard
from
constituents
that
have
purchased
their
homes,
these
projects
and
then
their
basements
are
flooding,
and
you
know
they
had
a
year
to
reach
out
to
the
city
to
handle
this
problem.
So
then
it
becomes
the
problem
of
the
owner.
So
I'm
just
curious
about
what,
if
anything
is
that
something
that
goes
through
assessing
or
another
department
or
isd
like?
M
M
B
They're
welcome
to
reach
right
out
to
inspectional
services
flooding
due
to
faulty
construction,
any
type
of
like
that.
We're
we're
ready
and
willing
and
able.
But
if
it's,
if
it's
construction
in
a
specific
flood
zone,
there
are
engineering
requirements
to
build
in
that
zone
to
withstand
the
flooding
to
withstand
flood
waters
rising
sea
levels.
That's
that's
what
we
were.
That's
that
was
discussion
as
far
as
construction
and
taking
water
through
a
foundation
that
that
that's
that's
that's
is
that
what
you're
referring
to.
J
M
Don't
know
what
the
this
specificity
of
what
their
situation
looks
like.
So
I'm
not.
I
can't
answer
that
question.
So
it's
dire
street,
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
if
that's
considered
a
flood
zone
area
or
not,
but
this
is
something
that
this
particular
project
was
a
city
of
boston
development
project.
The
folks
bought
their
home.
M
They
are
always
having
issues
with
flooding,
and
so
this
is
I'm
just
putting
it
on
the
record
that
this
is
the
area,
and
I
don't
know
I
don't
know
if
it
meets
those
requirements
that
you
just
mentioned,
but
I
do
know
that
it's.
M
That
would
be
great
all
right,
because
it's
if
the
city
was
responsible
for
it
and
it
got
approved
the
same
as.
B
M
Who's
responsible
for
it,
the
contractor
and
the
contractors.
M
A
Just
kidding
counselor
braden,
you
have
the
floor.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
a
couple
of
questions.
One
issue
back
to
the
flooding
issue
is
storm
water
management
and,
and
we
see
an
increasing
tendency,
especially
in
neighborhoods,
with
a
lot
of
pressure
on
parking
where
folks
are
paving
over
their
yards
and
parking
cars
and
that
ultimately
increases
the
speed
of
runoff,
which
causes
flooding
downhill
from
where
these
places
are.
I
can't
imagine
it's
not
impacting.
I
know
it's
impacting
our
roadways
and
we're
having
flash
flood
events.
Is
there
anything
we
can
do
like?
I
B
B
You
need
x
amount
of
permeable
surface
to
let
that
water
penetrate
back
into
ground
water
back
into
the
into
the
water
table.
Runoff,
you
cannot
run
off.
You
cannot
affect
the
budding
property
because
of
water
runoff.
That
is
a
violation
of
code
also.
So,
if
you
do
see
somebody
paving
some,
you
know
I
mean.
I
I
E
It's
a
property
management
building,
I'm
going
to
defer
that
question
to
them,
but
we
are
yeah
city
building.
B
A
Commissioner
and
team,
thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
and
all
that
you
do.
I
have
no
further
questions.
If
we
have
any
questions
here
that
were
not
answered,
you'll
get
them
by
email,
and
once
I
get
them
I
will
distribute
them
to
my
colleagues.
Thank
you
again
so
much
for
your
all.
The
work
that
you
do.
We
appreciate
you
meeting
adjourned.