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From YouTube: Committee on Ways & Means FY23Budget: BPD (Pt.II)
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Dockets #0480-0486 - Fiscal Year 2023 Budget: Boston Police Department (Part II)
Held on May 12, 2022
B
For
the
record,
my
name
is
tanya
fernandez
anderson,
the
district
7
city
councilor.
I
am
the
chair
of
the
boston
city
council
committee
on
ways
and
means
this
hearing
is
being
recorded
in
it
is
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
for
slash
city
dash,
council
dash
tv
and
broadcast
on
xfinity
channel
8,
rcn,
channel
82
and
files
channel
964.
B
B
You
can
do
this.
Several
ways
attend
one
of
our
hearings
and
give
public
testimony.
We
will
take
public
testimony
at
each
departmental
hearing
and
also
at
two
hearings
dedicated
for
public
testimony.
The
full
hearing
schedule
is
on
our
website
at
boston.gov
for
slash
council
dash
budget.
Our
scheduled
hearings
dedicated
to
public
testimony
was
april
26
at
6
pm,
and
the
following
will
be
at
on
june,
2nd
at
6
pm.
You
can
give
testimony
in
person
here
in
the
chamber
or
virtually
via
zoom
for
per
for
in-person.
Testimony.
B
B
Please
state
your
name,
affiliation
and
residence
and
limit
your
comments
to
two
minutes
to
ensure
that
all
comments
and
concerns
can
be
heard.
Email.
Your
written
testimony
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at
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a
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video
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for
more
information
on
the
city
budget
process
and
how
to
testify.
Please
visit
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city
council's
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website
at
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forward,
slash
council
dash
budget.
B
Today's
hearing
is
on
dockets
zero.
Four,
eight
zero,
two
zero
four
eight
two
orders
for
the
fy
23
operating
budget,
including
annual
appropriations
for
departmental
operations
for
the
school
department
and
for
the
other
post
employment
benefits;
opec,
docket,
043,
orders
for
capital
fund
transfer
appropriations,
dockets
zero,
four,
eight,
four:
two:
zero:
four:
eight
six
orders
for
the
capital
budget,
including
loan
orders
and
lease
purchase
agreements.
B
Mcconaughey,
thank
you
director
strategic
initiatives
and
policies.
I
am
joined
today
by
my
colleagues
council
president,
ed
flynn
district,
two
counselor
kendra
lara
district,
six
counselor
michael
flaherty
at
large
councilor
liz,
braden
district,
9,
counselor,
aaron
murphy
at
large
counselor,
julia
mejia
at
large.
B
For
those
of
you
who
joined
us
just
so
you
know
the
format
of
the
meeting
we
will
allow
for
a
presentation.
I
understand
that
you
had
the
panelists
had
one
presentation,
but
maybe
some
opening
statements
or
remarks
to
to
initiate
the
second
portion
of
or
this
this
hearing.
If
you
don't
have
a
presentation
and
you
like
to
consider
the
same,
you
can
go
through
it
again
or
you
can
have
open
remarks.
B
You
will
have
a
total
limit
of
20
minutes
to
present
and
then
we'll
go
to
round
one
giving
my
council
colleagues
eight
minutes
each
to
for
questions
and
answers.
It
is
for
them
to
manage
their
time
and
then
we'll
go
to
public
testimony
in
person.
First
then
virtual
and
then
second
round,
and
if
we,
if
time,
allows
third
round
and
again
hopefully
we
get
through
this
hearing.
B
B
C
Good
afternoon,
chair
fernandez,
anderson
and
the
members
of
the
council,
once
again,
my
name
is
superintendent,
jeffrey
walker,
chief
of
staff,
and
I
have
with
me
other
bureau
chiefs
assistant,
bureau
chiefs
directors,
I'd
like
to
assist
us
with
this
presentation
this
afternoon
and
during
part
two,
and
we
just
want
to
appreciate,
express
our
appreciation
for
the
important
work
that
we're
all
doing
here
as
aid
all
our
agencies,
the
city
officials
such
as
yourself
and
along
with
mayor
wu,
and
her
leadership
and
commitment
to
public
health
and
public
safety.
Thank
you.
B
D
D
D
D
So
that's
what
I've
focused
on
and
I'm
just
concerned
about,
the
health
and
wellness
too,
when
we,
when
we
have
police
officers
working
16
hours
a
day
five
days
a
week,
the
impact
it
has
on
them
physically
and
mentally,
but
also
the
impact
it
has
on
their
family
as
well.
It's
not
a
it's,
not
a
healthy
environment,
so
we'll
we're
going
to
continue
talking
about
overtime,
we're
going
to
continue
talking
about
over
time
for
the
next
10
years.
D
C
Services
for
our
members,
not
just
for
the
sworn,
but
also
for
some
of
the
civilians
who
also
provide
certain
police
services.
So,
yes,
I
think
that
just
the
council
could
come
together
with
us
and
have
with
all
the
emergency
services
ex
to
be
honest
with
you
and
have
a
group
discussion
and
to
be
candid
as
to
some
of
the
things
that
affect
us
that
we
come
across
or
subjected
to
or
have
to
deal
with
on
a
daily
basis
on
a
daily
basis.
C
But
I
think
that
when
we
arrive,
we
are
focused
on
doing
our
job
and
and
our
training
will
start
to
take
over
and
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
need
to
decompress,
and
sometimes
that
happens
when
we're
off
the
clock.
So
yes,
I
I
this
further
discussion
is
definitely
needed
and
we
could
talk
to.
We
should
talk
to
everyone
from
the
patrolman.
All
the
way
up
to
the
command
staff
and
how
best
to
address
those
issues.
D
My
my
other
question.
My
other
question
revolves
around
the
cooperation
that
boston
police
play
to
other
cities
and
towns
in
the
kind
of
the
greater
boston
area.
I
think
it's
it's
critical
and
I'm
I'm
thankful
that
boston
police
plays
a
leadership
role
in
helping
other
towns
in
cities
in
need,
especially
during
emergencies.
D
D
E
Well,
we
routinely
use
what
we
call
cobra,
which
is
it's
our
city-wide
bike
and
our
bikes
with
other
bike
units
such
as
quincy
we've
had
them
from
brookline
wellesley
newton
and
we
put
them
in
a
in
packages
or
platoons
or
units
for
the
large
events
and
demonstrations,
but
specifically
for
large
events
such
as
the
boston
common,
I'm
sorry,
the
boston
marathon,
and
that
has
worked
well.
We
need
their
manpower
and,
and
it's
it's
valued
on
the
other
side,
we
train
them.
E
We
train
them
on
on
patrol
bike
techniques
and
procedures,
it's
governed
by
the
mptc,
as
well
as
crowd,
control,
tactics
and
procedures.
So
we
gain
their
manpower
in
that
respect,
and
I
think
from
from
us
to
them
they
they
receive
the
training
that
they
need,
that
they
probably
wouldn't
have
gotten
anywhere
else.
E
F
To
that,
as
well
from
the
investigative
standpoint,
it's
a
two-way
street
outside
agencies
have
assisted
us
in
solving
homicide.
Investigations
outside
agencies
have
assisted
us
with
the
cyber
attack
and
the
ransomware
that
occurred
recently
at
the
boston
public
library,
where
we
don't
have
the
asset
sort
of
resources.
To
do
that,
so
I
think
the
partnerships
are
great.
I
think
the
partnership
should
continue
and
overall,
it's
been
very
limited,
lucrative
and
well
for
the
safety
and
the
investigations
on
par
for
the
residents
of
the
city
of
boston.
D
D
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
all
of
you
for
being
here
today
and
for
being
so
gracious.
I
know
that
it's
a
long
time
and
I
found
out
when
I
returned
that
you
weren't
able
to
all
get
something
to
eat
so
we'll
work
on
making
sure
you
have
what
you
need
to
be
here
for
the
whole
day.
The
questions
that
I
have
for
my
time
are
about
the
gang
database
break,
so
I'm
sure
director
that
they'll
come
to
you.
H
Ultimately,
I
want
to
preface
my
questions
by
sharing
with
you
that
I
was
a
street
worker
for
four
years
and
I
worked
under
street
safe
boston,
which
worked
with
what
the
boston
police
department
determined
to
be
the
300
most
dangerous
individuals
in
the
city.
I
started
in
mattapan,
I'm
born
in
norfolk
street,
and
then
I
went
to
the
south
bend
to
work
with
the
lenox
street
and
villa
victoria
groups.
I
I
do
not
have
the
explicit
examples
in
front
of
me,
however,
but
they
exist,
they
do
exist,
they
do
exist.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
is
that
the
gang
assessment
database
is
a
tool.
It's
it's
one
of
many
tools
that
the
boston
police
department
has
in
its
toolbox
it
the
gang
assessment
database,
comes
into
play
on
a
regular
basis
when
we're
dealing
with
incidents
of
violence
that
are
transpiring
on
the
street.
I
I
H
And
so
the
information
exists.
I
would
please
contact
a
request.
This
is
in
my
district.
Like
I
mentioned
sure,
our
office
has
been
involved
in
that,
and
so
you
know
when
I
asked
for
questions
around
the
claim
that
the
gang
database
reduces
gun
violence
in
boston.
We've
had
at
least
three
shootings
in
relation
to
that.
H
I
H
The
information
that
you're
getting
now
there
was
a
case
by
the
u.s
court
of
appeals,
ds
ortiz,
that
found
flaws
in
the
database,
including
reliance
on
an
erratic
point
system
that
was
built
on
unsubstantiated
references
again
worked
closely
with
the
boston
police
department.
I've
got
the
brick
sent
directly
to
my
phone,
and
so
I
working
with
young
people
who
aren't
involved.
I
I
understand.
I
know
that
to
be
true
myself
and
my
use
of
it.
What
opinion
do
you
have
on
on
that
ruling?
I
So
that
is
one
another
opinion
on
that
is
that
the
there
was
no
opportunity
for
law
enforcement
to
testify
in
that
okay.
So
there
were
no
opinions
that
were
entered
into
the
record
on
the
individual.
Who
was
the
subject
of
that
case?
In
particular,
there
was
no
subject
matter,
expertise
that
was
allowed
to
provide
further
detail
and
context
behind
the
criteria
that
is
used.
I
100,
I
completely
agree
with
you.
What
I
will
say
is
that
our
interaction
with
the
social
services
agencies
has
primarily
been
a
one-way
relationship
where
we
provide
information
forward.
There
were
barriers
that
were
intentionally
put
in
place
for
ssyi
and
prior
to
that,
the
pact
program
that
was
preventing
information
from
flowing
up
from
those
same
agencies
for
reasons
of
not
destroying
trust
between
the
agencies
and
the
individuals
involved.
H
H
So
now
we
know
that
there's
a
harmful
impact
for
young
people,
particularly
when
they
have
placement
into
the
gang
database.
Do
you
support
having
a
regular
audit
of
the
gang
database
to
ensure
accuracy
and
reliability?
I
know
that
now
we
have
this
once
a
year
reporting
and
that
you've
been
removing
some
people
from
the
list.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
I
I
Operation
exit
is
a
perfect
example
where
jobs
are
provided
to
individuals,
the
health
and
human
services
that
are
offered
to
individuals
that
are
in
that
gang
assessment
database.
I've
seen
statements
out
there
in
the
public
forum
that
are
made
of
individuals
unable
to
get
jobs,
that's
impossible,
it's
frankly
impossible
that
database
is
not
accessible
for
any
employment
purposes.
The
only
the
only
time
I
could
see
somebody
potentially
not
getting
a
job
is
if
they
were
applying
to
be
a
police
officer,
and
it
came
up
in
a
background
investigation,
specifically
in
the
city
of
boston.
It.
H
I
I
you
know,
I
would
go
against
that.
I
spent
a
lot
of
hours
in
court
advocating
for
young
people
there
and
their
placement
on
brick
as
an
associate
of
a
gang
was
oftentimes
used
and
presented
to
the
judge
for
consideration.
So
I
see
your
statement
in
terms
of
creating
more
opportunity
and
I
can
see
why
you
would
say
that
but
saying
you
know
saying
that
that
is
the
only
thing
that's
happening
that
there's
not
any
harmful
impact,
I
think,
is
a
long
shot.
H
H
I
H
Thank
you
so
much
my
last
question,
and
this
is
more
request
for
information.
If
you
can't
provide
it
now,
I
would
like
a
separate
list
of
all
the
databases
that
brick
maintains
databases
that
brix
has
access
to
databases
to
which
brick
contributes
information,
and
I
would
like
to
describe
who
has
access
to
these
databases
as
well.
Yes,.
I
H
You
so
much,
madam
chair.
How
much
time
do
I
have
left
beautiful?
No
further
questions.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
I
do
have
to
leave
because
I
have
to
get
my
son
off
the
school
bus,
but
I
just
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
because
I
want
to.
I
want
you
to
know
that
we
are
respectful
of
your
time
and
we
appreciate
how
much
energy
you've
put
into
today.
So,
thank
you
all
so
much.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
good
afternoon,
everybody
again
good
to
see
everyone
and
thank
you
for
the
work.
You
do
something
that's
always
been
confusing
to
me,
and
hopefully
we
can
start
to
have
some
clarity
on
it.
I
guess
is
we
have
captain
detectives,
lieutenant
detectives
and
sergeant
detectives,
supervising
detectives
and
they've
never
been
a
detective.
J
No
one
has
been
able
to
sort
of.
I
guess
satisfactorily
explain
that
to
me.
I
see
here
that
we're
conducting
a
detective
promotional
exam
and
we're
going
to
start
to
obviously
encourage
folks
to
take
that
test,
but
it
just
always
for
me.
It
just
kind
of
defied
logic
as
to
why
that
system
exists
and
why
we're
not
enhancing
in
supporting
detectives
who,
I
think,
are
overworked
in
and
at
times
understaffed,
given
the
amount
of
cases
they
deal
with
and
they
have
to
investigate
plus
the
old
cold
case
squad.
E
J
E
Out
of
nowhere
and
you
but
you're
making
the
assumption
that,
just
because
someone's
a
detective
that
they
would
make
a
fantastic
sergeant
detective.
That
may
be
true.
That
may
not
be
true
now
I
would
concede
to
you
that
the
vetting
process
is
not
formalized,
but
I
think
there
is
an
effort
to
look
at
a
person
and-
and
I'm
I'm
out
of
bis
now,
but
I
think
there
is
a
concerted
effort
to
look
at
a
sergeant
and
say
that
guy
isn't
that
woman
is
a
good
manager,
a
good
leader.
E
He
or
she
would
do
a
good
good
job,
because
I
think
there's
a
misconception
that
that
the
lieutenant
detective
with
a
sergeant
detective
is
doing
exactly
what
the
detective
is:
they're,
not
they're,
diminishing
cases
and
now
I'll
defer
to
deputy
deputy
from
bis.
But
I
think
we're
we're
automatically
assuming
guy's
a
great
detective
he'd,
be
a
great
sergeant
that
may
or
may
not
be
the
fact
I
mean
that
may
or
may
not
be
true,
but
I
think
my
personal
opinion
when
I
was
lieutenant
detective
and
we
were
looking
for
sergeant
detectives.
E
We
were
looking
for
the
person
that
could
do
the
job,
and
that
was
the
bottom
line.
The
bottom
line
is:
can
that
guy
or
that
woman
do
the
job
not?
Was
that
guy
a
woman,
a
detective
or
was
that
guy
a
woman
connected
to
this
or
that
organization?
You
were
looking
for
the
bottom
line?
Could
that
person
fulfill
the
requirements
and.
J
E
There's
exactly
right,
there's
a
difference
between
civil
service
and
appointing
here.
But
you
know
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point,
but
I
mean
you
might
have
been
a
fantastic
detective
at
district
14,
doing
all
kinds
of
larcenies
and
and
bnes
does
that
transition
then
to
b2,
where
the
majority
of
your
cases
are
aggravated
assault,
shooting
stabbings,
robberies,
maybe
maybe
not
I
mean
you're
gonna,
look
at
the
individual
and
I'll
I'll
get
off
I'll
get
off
the
subject
and
turn
it.
F
F
Fortunately,
I
was
a
detective
and
also
a
sergeant
detective,
but
there
are
existing
sergeant,
detectives
and
lieutenant
detectives
that
weren't
a
detective
and
they
do
an
outstanding
job
I
mean,
should
they
have
the
opportunity
because
they
weren't
detective
to
get
in
that
position?
Yes,
I
think
they
they
should,
should
we
mold
them
and
train
them
if
they
weren't
a
detective,
send
them
to
investigative
classes,
interviewing
interrogation
classes.
Yes,
we
should
so,
I
think,
to
answer
your
question.
I
think
it
goes
both
ways.
J
I
feel
like,
if
you're
in
the
sort
of
patrolman
situation
you
can
become
a
sergeant,
you
can
become
a
lieutenant.
You
can
become
a
captain.
You
have
those
opportunities.
If
you're
a
detective,
it
seems
like
someone
can
kind
of
leap
frog
in
out
of
nowhere.
I
don't,
I
think,
from
a
morale
standpoint
to
you
to
obviously
the
deputy's
point
in
terms
of
you're
either
a
leader
you're,
not
a
leader
right,
you
could
be
a
worker
bee,
but
you're
just
not
cut
out
to
be
a
boss
right
and
we
could
find
those
folks.
J
I
really
would
like
to
see
us
really
support
the
detectives
in
that
way
that,
if
you're
in
the
family,
the
detective
family
and
that
you're
working
up
the
ranks
of
detective
and
again
nora,
you
probably
will
have
a
front
row
seat
now
running
the
academy
and
you'll
probably
identify
right
off
the
bat.
All
this
person
will
make
a
great
detective.
This
person
will
make
a
great
leader.
J
You
can
probably
almost
identify
them
immediately,
but
I
I
just
seem
like
it
seems
like
the
chase
is
on
for
the
raiding,
as
opposed
to
really
doing
the
work
and
has
nothing
to
do
with
current
sergeant
lieutenant
and
captain
detectives.
I
know
they're
doing
great
work.
I
respect
them,
but
it
almost
seems
like
there's
a
little
bit
of
game
going
on
there.
J
F
We
do
currently
we
do
currently
post
the
positions
and
we
do
put
all
the
applicants
they're
able
to
apply.
We
do
have
an
interview
process
before
the
deputy
or
my
myself,
or
a
superintendent
or
a
supervisor
in
a
detective
role.
So
there
is
some
point
part
of
an
interview
process
for
those
positions
that,
if
their
people
are
interested,
they
are
able
to
put
in
for
that
position.
J
Right
and
I
think,
from
a
rank
and
file
perspective,
I
think
people
feel
that
that's
that
process
is
too
political
and
it's
not
really
based
on
training
experience.
It's.
He
was
friends
with
so-and-so.
He
used
to
drive
the
mayor
or
he's
held
so
and
so
signs,
or
he
had
a
few
people
calling
his
behalf
and
I
or
she.
I
just
think
that
it
kind
of
warrants
itself
to
that,
as
opposed
to
hey
this
person's.
J
A
detective
came
up
to
the
detective
ranks
working
hard
and
identifying
the
leaders,
as
the
deputy
had
mentioned,
identify
those
true
leaders
and
then
tap
them
give
them
the
sergeant
detective
rating,
the
lieutenant
detective
rating,
the
captain.
I
think
it
kind
of
weeds
out
the
politics
if
you
will
and
allows,
and
then
we
can
encourage
more
folks
to
to
participate.
It
seems
like
it
evens.
K
I
know
new
york
has
two
a
two-tier
system
where
they
have
the
investigative
side
and
patrol
force
side,
but
there's
only
one
exam
that
you
can
take
to
be
a
detective
there's
no
other
exams
after
that
point.
So
if
you
actually
became
a
supervisor
before
you
were
able
to
take
a
detective
exam,
then
it
would
preclude
any
of
those
people
from
actually
getting
a
rating.
K
So
we
do
it
based
on
as
fair
as
possible,
as
we
can,
based
on
your
ability,
your
ability
to
lead
your
ability
to
manage,
but
until
unless
there's
a
change
in
our
our
dynamics,
where
it
is
an
exam
for
say
a
sergeant,
detective
lieutenant
detective
captain
detective
the
only
opportunity
you
have
to
become
a
detective
is
that
one
exam.
So
if
you
become
a
supervisor
sergeant
lieutenant
captain
prior
to
that,
then
there's
no
there's
no
opportunity
for
you
to
get
a
rated
position
and
I.
J
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
being
patient
with
us
all
on
all
these
questions.
One
question
I
had
was
going
back
to.
I
see
that
there's
as
grant
money
specifically
for
testing
of
sort
of
cold
cases,
dna
testing.
Can
you
give
me
some
insight
into
where
we
are
with
the
backlog
of
testings
of
rip
test
kits
or
is
that
something
that
you
folks
deal
with?
Is
that
taken
care
of
at
the
state
lab.
F
L
F
In
addition
to
that,
there's
also
training
and
services
for
victims
of
sexual
assault
cases,
and
currently
we
are
in
the
process
of
today-
is
actually
the
the
day
that
we
introduced
the
grant
and
where
it's
working,
it's
gonna,
be
it's
it's
working
across
the
country
and
I
believe
we're
gonna
solve
a
lot
of
old,
unsolved
cases.
Dna
related
cases
in
regards
to
using
this
grant.
F
G
That's
that's
good.
The
other
question
I
had
was
with
regard
to
human
trafficking.
I
know
this
this
money
for
some
attention
to
that
as
well.
It
was
shocking
to
me
to
discover
that
right
within,
like
100
yards
in
my
house
in
oak
square,
that
there
was
human
trafficking
happen
a
few
years
ago
that
right
under
our
noses-
and
we
didn't
really
what's
your
strategy,
for
you-
know
increasing
public
awareness
and
public
education
and
how
how
prevalent
is
human
trafficking
and
across
the
city
and.
F
F
The
investigations
can
lead
from
an
illicit,
massage,
parlor
online
online
trafficking,
obviously
there's
also
street
trafficking
as
well
and
over
the
course
of
I'll.
Just
give
you
a
few
statistical
numbers
just
along
this
year.
This
humidity
trafficking
unit
has
provided
services
to
20
victims.
It's
doubled
since
last
year.
At
this
rate
last
year,
totally
it
was
27
victims.
So
the
human
trafficking
unit
is
works
within
a
multi-working
group
where
it
involves
not
only
just
boston
police
officers
but
clinicians
and
service
providers.
G
F
G
F
I
get
to
scam
calls
my
parents
get
the
scam
calls,
I
just
blocked
them
on
my
phone,
but
a
lot
of
times.
You
know:
we've
gotten
calls
where
my
grandson
is
in
jail
and
people
have
gone.
Elderly
victims
have
gone
to
the
police,
to
the
bank
and
withdrawing
money
out.
So
a
lot
of
it.
We
do
more
and
be
better
at
giving
an
educational
portion
of
it.
I
G
G
Very
good,
thank
you.
How
are
we
doing
for
time?
Two
minutes,
two
minutes
wow,
so
the
shannon
the
shannon
grant
one.
I
I
raised
a
question
this
morning
about
you-
know:
youth,
youth,
youth
workers
and
programs
for
youth
and
diversion
programs,
it's
sort
of
very
distressing
when
we
see
young
people
getting
into
trouble.
I
I
know
from
my
own
family
that
it's
very
easy
for
us,
our
young
men,
especially
to
to
get
into
trouble,
and
so
in
terms
of
the
utilization
of
the
shannon
grant.
M
Counselor,
though
shane
grant
comes
from
the
she
had,
a
grant
comes
from
the
public
executive
office
of
public
safety
at
the
commonwealth
public
office
of
safety.
Sorry
about
that,
and
basically
every
year,
we're
awarded
this
grant.
It's
a
a
calendar
grant.
This
year
we
were
ordered
1.6
million
dollars
and
basically
it's
the
amount
of
monies
are
awarded
to
non-profits,
whose
primary
intention
is
to
invest
in
the
neighborhoods
in
which
they
reside
and
to
to
look
at
at
risk
risk
youth
and
provide
programs
and
services
to
them.
M
Some
of
the
vendors
that
we
currently
have
the
recipients
of
this
funding
is
boston,
medical
center,
boston,
centers
for
youth
and
families,
boston,
public
health,
commission,
new
boston,
youth,
connect,
college-bound,
dorchester,
high
square
task,
force,
sportsmen
tennis,
mothers
for
justice
and
equality,
and
the
list
goes
on
and
on.
But
it's
a
very
helpful
program
and
basically
the
funding
goes
to
programs
that
they're
initiating
there.
M
G
G
Everybody
was
really
concerned
that
you
know
in
the
middle
of
a
pandemic,
when
everybody's
locked
down
that
we're
going
to
lose
a
handle
on
this
thing,
so
we
pursued
trying
to
get
funding
for
youth
workers
with
no
youth
workers
working
with
these,
these
young
people
or
at
faneuil
gardens,
and
it's
just
been
really
difficult.
So
I
know
one
and
what
is
it
one
and
a
half
million?
It's
not
a.
M
G
Not
a
whole
lot
of
money
at
the
end
of
the
day,
when
you're
talking
about
trying
to
do
preventative
work
with
young
people,
so
we
will
beat
the
bushes
and
try
and
find
money
wherever
we
can.
But
we
should
probably
take
a
look
at
the
shannon
brands
and
see
if
there's
anything
again
again,
even
just
funding
a
for
one,
youth
worker
could
could
make
a
difference.
N
Council
murphy
you
have
before
thank
you
thank
you,
chair
and
thank
you
for
sticking
with
us.
I
appreciate
it
a
few
things
I
they've
been
mentioned,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
to
mention
a
few
things
again.
You
know
being
an
at-large
counselor.
I
talk
to
residents
from
all
over
the
city
in
every
neighborhood
and
time
and
time
again
the
residents
talk
about
wanting
more
police
presence.
N
We
talked
earlier
about
beefing
up
the
bike
patrol,
but
also
community
policing
and
just
seeing
cops
in
the
neighborhood
that
those
relationships
and
the
presence
in
the
neighborhood
I
do
believe,
are
so
important.
So
I
do
think
we
have
to
really
make
an
effort
to
hire
more
police
officers
because
it
keeps
coming
back
to
that.
We
need
to
hire
more
and
20.
30
is
not
enough
at
a
time.
We
need
to
really
hire
like
100
out
of
whatever
is
going
to
take
to
ease
that
and
that
ties
into
the
mental
health.
N
We
know
that
this
pandemic
has
wreaked
havoc
on
the
mental
health
of
so
many
and
all
departments
across
the
city
have
been
hit
hard,
we're
halfway
through
our
budget
hearing.
So
we've
sat
with
many
other
departments
across
the
city,
including
the
schools
which,
being
a
former
teacher.
I
know
that
our
teachers
are
struggling
and
even
our
city
hall
workers,
especially
our
first
responders.
So
you
know
in
normal
times
your
job
is
extremely
stressful
and
the
forced
overtime
is
only
making
it
more.
Stressful
and
kovit
is
making
it
harder.
N
So
what
more
can
we
do
to
support
the
mental
health
and
wellness
of
our
first
responders?
It's
kind
of
a
rhetorical
question
I
know,
but
if
it's
adding
more
resources
into
the
budget
and
really
because
I
know
we're
also
not
expecting
you've
always
done
that,
but
the
training
that
your
force
does
to
make
sure
when
you're
responding
to
mental
health
calls
because
you're
also
responding
to
more
of
those
calls
through
the
pandemic,
also
so
making
sure
that
we're
supporting
you
there
and
on
page
245
in
the
budget.
Here
I
see
some
great
grants.
You
have.
N
I
look
at
the
heel,
boston.
It
seems
like
it's
odyssey,
11
or
the
youth
engagement
grant
and
would
just
love
to
know
if
you
could
speak
a
little
to
those
and
what
other
opportunities
do
our
youth
have
besides
the
cadet
program
and
if
there's
more,
you
would
like
to
see
I'd
love
to
hear
about
that.
So
thank
you.
N
O
G
O
Lot
of
that,
you
could
be
helpful.
He
pays
out
of
his
pocket
a
lot
of
these
officers
that
run
their
program.
Lyanna
henderson
runs
something
called
youth
lead
in
the
way.
A
lot
of
them
are
doing
their
own
time
out
of
their
own
pocket.
Each
district
has
their
something
that
they
kind
of
that
one
officer
in
c6,
aisha,
just
spending
time
with
them
a
lot
of
times.
We
do
partner
with
erica
butler
and
bcyf
she's,
a
big
component
for
the
girls.
O
We
have
to
not
forget
about
our
young
girls,
because
that
always
comes
up
when
violence
comes
up
and
the
best
preventive
tool
is
to
build
those
relationships.
Early
the
grow
program
that
officer
dickerson
talked
about.
I
mean
they
came
here
to
city
hall.
These
girls
now
were
going
into
high
school
and
some
into
college,
and
but
each
district
has
one
of
each
officer,
but
how
you
could
help
them
is
just
like
in
14,
the
funding
is
very
small.
O
O
So
I
think
that
would
be
very
helpful
because
the
at
the
end
of
the
day
is
just
spending
the
time
with
these
young
people
and
building
the
relationship.
And
as
you
know,
that
takes
time
when
I
say
time
years
so
that
ongoing
relationship.
But
the
results
are
the
programs
that
laura
dickinson
talked
about
the
successful
ones
that
are
happening
all
across
the
city.
O
So
any
support
from
the
council,
as
you
send
grants
to
us,
which
is
great,
because
if
we
support
our
community
partners
that
we
work
with,
that
will
help
them
be
strong.
And
then
that
kind
of
we
don't
get
the
money,
but
they
get
the
money
and
we
work
with
them.
But
I
think
any
grants
coming
our
way.
Shannon
grant
is,
is
helpful,
but
it's
very
small.
So
if
we
can,
together
together
collectively,
look
at
what
programs
that
are
in
existence
and
how
do
you
strengthen
those
ones?
O
N
N
B
P
So,
thank
you
for
your
patience
with
us,
so
I
just
have
some
questions.
This
is
in
regards
to
the
gang
database,
my
favorite
topic
of
all
time
entering
my
third
year
in
this
ready
for
these
round
one.
I'm
just
checking
I'm
just
curious
if
there
have
been
any
discussions
about
eliminating
or
changing
the
gang
database
and
if
so,
who
from
the
city
and
community,
has
been
involved
in
those
discussions
and
is
eliminating
the
gang
database,
an
option
that
is
being
actively
explored.
I
So
the
majority
of
our
conversations
are
are
internal.
Admittedly,
last
year
during
the
prior
city
council,
that
was
seated,
we
did
engage
in
some
dialogue
under
councillor
campbell
with
we
were
bouncing
cry
adjustments
that
we
were
making
to
the
to
the
rule,
so
there
has
been
engagement
there
as
far
as
whether
or
not
we've
discussed.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
contextualizing
this
appropriately.
So
please
correct
me
if
I
give
you
the
wrong
answer
here.
I
As
far
as
getting
rid
of
the
gang
assessment
database,
sure
we've
we've
had
those
conversations
of
the
impact
that
that
could
potentially
have
so.
Questions
are
often
asked
about
the
crimes
that
are
solved
because
of
the
gang
assessment
database,
but
law
enforcement
is
not
built
around
solving
crime
solely
it's
prevention
as
well.
The
gang
assessment
database
as
a
tool
provides
context
to
violence,
that's
occurring
in
the
city
and
the
rationale
for
why
it
is
why
it
is
occurring.
Let's.
I
P
I
P
E
I
was
a
lieutenant
detective
for
six
years
I
used
the
gang
database
for
almost
every
shooting
I
had,
and
I
had
the
height
well
v2
had
the
highest
clearance
rate
of
aggravated
assaults.
Assaults
in
the
city
and
and
the
gang
database
was
instrumental
in
defining
why
an
incident
was
happening.
Who
was
connected
to
who?
Who
was
accomplice?
P
P
P
F
P
P
F
F
P
P
P
P
Is
original
surveillance,
camera
network
operating
in
boston
and
seven
surrounding
communities
and
a
recent
communication
from
the
office
of
emergency
management
indicated
that
cameras
that
make
up
the
sims
have
microphones
on
them
and
I'm
just
curious.
Have
these
microphones
been
activated
and
if
so,
when,
and
for
what
purposes.
I
P
I
F
P
P
That
that
would
be.
That
would
be
helpful,
and
can
you
just
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
the
911
operators?
Really
quick.
I
understand
that
we
need
to
work
on
diversifying
our
supervisory
role.
I
believe
there's
only
one
black
person
and
how
many
white
males
the
rest
of
white
males.
So
actually
does
anyone
know
about
the
the
diversity
in
the
9-1-1
operating
the.
M
P
This
would
be
a
good
recording
for
us
to
have
and
then,
when
you
come
back
next
year,
we
can
increase
that
that
would
be
a
really
great
goal
for
us
to
to
work
towards,
because
I
I
feel
like
you
know,
we
keep
having
the
conversation
around
increasing
diversity,
but
it
seems
like
the
urgency
around
it
is,
is
not
meeting
the
moment
of
this
time.
I'm
gonna
move
on
to
just
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
my
favorite
subject.
P
Brick
again,
can
you
just
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
about
the
community
engagement
efforts?
I
know
you
said
that
counselor
campbell
had
you
know,
engaged
in
some
community
conversations
and
and
some
some
work
around
that
space.
What
is
what
would
you
say
is
the
main
reason
why
we're
still
having
the
conversation
around
getting
rid
of
the
database
like
what's
the
resistance
around
it.
P
E
The
crime
is
has
or
is
likely
to
occur.
That's
the
definition
of
regional
suspicion.
You're
educated
that
on
that,
in
the
academy,
you
execute
that,
when
you're
out
as
a
police
officer,
that's
clear-
that's
established
in
this
case
law
on
that.
If
you're
referring
to
a
terry,
stop,
that's
the
case
law
that
governs
stops
as
per
reasonable
suspicion.
E
A
situation
we
don't
unders,
we
don't
know
about
that.
What
we're
dealing
with
is
what
factually
happens
off
the
street
based
on
reasonable
suspicion
and
other
factors.
9-1-1
calls
and
other
things
I
mean
you
got
to
separate
the
two
you're
asking
us.
If
we're
doing,
stop
and
frisk,
I'm
telling
you
we're
not.
B
You
will
allow
the
counselors
to
finish
their
questions
and
we
will
do
that
in
on
both
ends
respectfully,
but
please
do
not
cut
off
the
counselor
and
please
allow
her
to
finish
and
if,
if
there
is
a
correction
to
be
made,
we
ask
that
we
continue
this
conversation
with
respect.
I
appreciate
you
counsel
me
here.
You
have
two
minutes.
P
I
guess
the
point
that
I'm
trying
to
make
is
that
there
is
a
there
is
a
culture
where
a
lot
of
young
people
and
people
of
color
feel
like
they're,
oftentimes,
being
targeted
and
because
of
that
culture.
It
is
very
difficult
for
us
to
build
the
type
of
relationships
that
we're
all
making
an
effort
to
do
and
if
I
don't
call
it
out
or
name
it
and
bring
it
into
this
chamber,
then
I'm
not
uplifting.
The
voices
of
the
people
who
I
represent.
P
P
She,
the
parent,
may
have
exaggerated
her
experience,
but
the
trauma
that
her
child
shared
is
something
that
I
need
to
take
serious,
and
so
these
situations
are
happening
and
they
may
not
be
happening
at
an
alarming
rate
enough
for
you
all
to
even
consider
it
to
be
a
problem.
But
even
one
case,
and
one
call
at
12
30
at
night
is
enough
for
me
to
bring
it
into
this
chamber
and
present
it
to
you
all
as
something
that
we
need
to
contend
with.
That's
all.
F
I
and
I
totally
agree
and
understand,
I
understand
where
you're
coming
from,
because
there
are
times
where
kids
come
home
and
tell
their
parents
that
they've
been
stopped
by
the
police
and
they
have
no
idea
that
there
was
a
911
call
on
them.
So
I
think
if
there's
an
issue
and
the
parent
feels
very
concerned
and
upset
about
it,
that
should
they
should
visit
their
district
station
and
ask
to
speak
to
a
supervisor.
Q
Thank
you,
madame
chair.
I
think
this
goes
back
to
a
question
that
I
stated
earlier
that
was
asked.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
put
in
this
request
formally
through
the
chair
for
a
list
of
the
non-profits
that
last
three
four
years
five
years
that
have
received
grants
from
the
from
bpd
by
order
of
amount
where
they
receive
the
grants.
I
think
that
would
be
information.
That's
really
helpful
is
that
information
that
we
can
get
from
you
and
not
just
based
on
the
shannon
grant,
based
on
all
grants.
M
Q
And
if
I
could
request
you
know,
the
way
that
we
receive
information
is
bad.
It's
not
easy
to
read.
It
is
not
easy
to
understand
at
times
one
one
page,
that's
something,
and
then
I
ask
and
then
it's
something
else.
I
would
be
great
if
we
could
receive
this
information
in
a
way
that's
easy
to
read
in
excel
format.
Q
Thank
you.
In
the
court's
opinion,
on
the
brick
database,
I'm
not
going
to
belabor
the
point
because
it's
been
discussed,
but
the
court
said
the
brick
database
does
not
contain
reasonable,
substantial
and
profit
of
evidence
of
gang
membership
or
association,
and
the
government
provided
no
other
evidence
to
substantiate
the
inference
and
conclusions
drawn
from
the
police
reports
via
the
brick
point
system,
and
I
think
that's
what
we're
discussing
today,
a
flawed
system.
Even
you
know
that
is,
let's
even
accept
without
discussion
that
there's
no
racial
profiling
involved.
Q
We
know
that
it
disproportionately
includes
folks
of
color
in
that
database,
and
so
I
think
the
discussion
is,
does
brick
cause
more
harm
than
good
and
that's
why
the
data
requests
are
important
to
make
that
assessment
of
whether
it's
causing
more
harm
than
good
to
me,
it's
causing
harm
and
period,
but
if
you're
making
this
argument.
That
is
why
the
data
is
important.
Q
I
wanted
to
move
on
to
another
question
if
you'll
bear
with
me
a
lot
of
my
other
questions
were
asked
the
questions
about
rape,
kit
processing.
I
think
we
have
to
do
a
lot
better,
a
much
better
job
there
around
around
information
sharing
with
other
states.
What
is
the
is
there
a
process
involved
with
like
if
there's
an
investigation
happening,
let's
say
in
rhode,
island
or
you
know,
connecticut
new
york?
What
is
the
process
for
information
sharing.
I
I
I
One
thing
that
I
would
say
is
very
very
important
to
note
is
the
role
of
the
trust
act,
the
city
of
boston,
trust
act
and
our
information
sharing
we
have
we,
we
have
always
operated
in
compliance
with
the
trust
act,
keep
in
mind
the
trust
act
changed
we
adjusted
with
the
trust
act
when
it
did
change.
Okay,
thank.
Q
You
so
my
question
is
really
thinking
about
the
times
we're
in
and
how
we'll
share
information
with
other
states.
So
does
bpd,
or
are
you
thinking
about
a
plan
if
police
from
texas,
for
example,
ask
for
information
about
someone
under
investigation
for
getting
an
abortion
here
in
massachusetts?
Will
you
cooperate
with
that?
What
are
the
standards
to
determine
whether
you
cooperate
and
what
can
we
do
as
a
city
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
cooperating.
I
R
Q
I
It's
more
of
it's
more
of
a
standard
that
is
reflective
of
the
of
our
privacy
policy.
We
call
it
our
privacy
policy,
but
that
privacy
policy
really
is
the
heart
and
soul
of
the
policy
that
exists
within
the
brick.
There's
nothing
written
into
that
policy
specific
to
what
you're
describing
here,
but
we've
made
adjustments
based
upon
new
new
laws
that
have
come
about
surveillance
surveillance
is
is,
is
coming
into
there
we're
actively
just
so.
I
You
know
we
are
actively
updating
that
policy
with
some
of
the
new
things
that
have
come
our
way
over
the
past
year,
some
of
those
policies
time
consuming
to
put
together.
What
I
will
say
is
that
there
is
supervisory
review
and
there's
discretion
to
to
deny
a
request
if
it
seems
like
it's
unethical
or
if
it.
Q
Q
Q
Q
I
think
there
was
a
recent
inspector
general
investigation
from,
I
think
chicago,
as
I
said,
that
shot
spotter
technology
sometimes
responds
to
things
that
aren't
shots
being
fired,
and
I
would
just
ask
if
our
do.
We
find
that
what
what
happens
here
when
shot
spotter
is
sets
off.
It
identifies
something
that
is
actually
not
a
gunshot
right.
K
So
shot
spotter,
it
does
send
out
alerts
and
it
can
send
out
alerts
for
various
things
specifically
gun
shots,
but
they
also
have
things
that
are
classified
as
backfiring
firecrackers
things
of
that
nature.
It
does
happen
occasionally
where
there
is
a
shot,
spotter
alert
and
it
ended
up
being
something
other
than
gunshot
fire.
But
when
officers
arrive
on
scene,
what
they
do
is
they
usually
tell
us?
Well,
somebody
said:
hey
a
car
backfired
or
a
bottle
broke
or
something
along
those
lines.
K
We
then
the
districts
are
directed
to
call
shot
spot
and
let
them
know
that
that
was
a
misclassification
of
alert
and
they
adjust
this
system
or
the.
If
it
becomes
a
issue
in
a
certain
area
like
maybe
one
or
two
sensors
are
out
they'll
come
and
service
the
sensors
so
that
they
they'll
accurately
alert
to
alert
us
when
the
actual
gunfire.
Okay,.
Q
K
So
with
the
rest
in
fios,
that
would
be
something
that
we
would
have
to
probably
go
through
our
system
for,
but
as
far
as
data
that
is
housed
is
housed
at
shot
spotter,
we
would
have
to
make
a
request
through
that,
and
they
usually
will
not
do
it.
Unless
it's
a
freedom
of
information
act,
so
we
would
have.
We
would
have
to
get
a
freedom
of
information.
I
can
send
it
over
to
shot
spine
and
they
usually
comply
within
a
certain
a
reasonable
period
of
time.
K
Yeah
it'll
go
through
our
legal
department,
okay
and
I'll.
I'm
I'm
the
director
of
shotspotter
for
the
department,
so
then
I'll
contact
the
their
counterpart
at
shotspotter.
Let
them
know
that
it's
a
foia
request
has
been
made
I'll,
send
her
for
a
request
over
there.
There's
certain
proprietary
things
that
they're
not
going
to
give
us
but
they'll
give
us
everything
else
that
they
can
thank.
K
Q
I
Q
L
Q
Q
Thank
you,
and
I
wanted
to
say
this
when,
when
president
council,
president
flynn
was
here
to
the
question,
also
of
diversity
among
9-1-1,
just
talking
about
operators
here,
I
know
that
a
request
in
chinatown
was
made
and
I'm
going
to
elevate
this
as
well,
and
I
don't
even
know
if
this
was
the
new
jurisdiction
but
language
diversity,
because
when
people
are
calling
9-1-1,
they
deserve
to
be
able
to
talk
to
someone
who
can
understand
their
language,
and
that
has
been
a
barrier
for
a
lot
of
communities.
So
thank
you.
Q
B
You
counselor
I'm
going
to
invite
you
guys
down
if
you
want
to
sit
on
this
table
to
testify
for
those
of
you
who
signed
up
and
if
you
don't
want
to
sit
on
that
side,
those
chairs
are
more
comfortable.
I
tell
everyone
that,
because
I
sat
out
there
once
for
a
few
hours
and
I
couldn't
bear
it
so
if
you
can
come
down,
I
just
have
a
round
of
questions
and
then
it's
your
turn,
but
you
sit
there
and
I'll
get
the
order
of
which
you
signed
up
for
public
testimony.
B
B
B
B
E
My
com,
my
conversations
with
the
street
outreach
unit
they
make
referrals
every
day,
is
the
the
obstacle
to
to
them
receiving
care.
Is
their
decision
not
to
receive
the
care?
That's
the
feedback
that
that
I've
been
getting
from
the
street
outreach
unit,
which
is
out
there
every
day
day
in
night,
working
with
boston,
public
health
and
other
city
agencies.
B
Okay,
thank
you
and
in
terms
of
back
to
mental
health
for
officers,
I'm
also
very
interested
in
that.
I
think
that
anyone
who
is
overworked
sleep,
deprived
and
works
in
trauma-inducing
conditions
deserve
self-care
whatever.
That
means,
whether
it's
mental
health
or
some
sort
of
therapy.
Council
flaherty
mentioned
chiropractic
services.
E
As
far
as
I
know,
and
I'm
I'm
not
as
well
read
into
it
as
other
people,
there's
no
obstacles,
the
everything
that
that
an
officer
does
or
requests
with
the
peer
support
is
confidential
and
that
information
is
not
released
to
anybody
in
the
department.
It's
between
the
officer
and
the
peer
support
counselors.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
answers
your
question,
but
that
is.
B
B
B
B
K
I
like
to
say
that
I
don't
think
so
either,
because
it's
now
that
officers
are
attempting
to
stay
well
they're
trying
to
preserve
their
health
and
wellness.
So
if,
if
I
go
to
someone
and
I
need
help,
I'm
going
to
get
help,
there's
there's
no
really
no
fear
of
being
stigmatized
for
asking
for
help
on
this
particular
job.
At
this
point
in
time,.
B
B
B
B
As
I
heard
superintendent
bastian
mentioned
earlier,
and
then
you
are
constantly
either
feared
or
hated.
This
is
the
reality
between
community
and
officers.
In
order
for
us
to,
I
think,
create
more.
You
know.
Reform
is
to
build
our
relationships
and
have
these
conversations-
and
I
that's
why
I
ask
you
these
questions
in
term
on
record,
because
they
are
also
a
part
of
services
to
be
implemented
so
that
you
can
do
your
job
as
well.
O
Can
I
just
add
that,
at
the
academy
the
office's
wellness
is
we
have
over
60
hours
of
offices,
health
and
wellness,
so
everything
you're
saying
is
like
what
we
would
talk
to
the
recruit
officers.
We
take
it
very
serious,
it's
implemented
out
through
the
entire
curriculum
and
when
they
get
into
the
bpd
and
put
on
their
blues,
but
that
has
been
a
crucial
part.
Just
like
you
said,
everything
that
you
mentioned
is
exactly
what
we
talk
about.
O
We
bring
in
different
speakers
and
we
at
the
academy
level,
that
is
the
onset
to
know
what
they're
gonna
be
prepared.
You
know
when
they
become
police
officers
and
added
stress
and
trauma.
So
at
the
academy
level
they
get
a
lot
of
hours
just
to
bring
that
awareness.
Oh
great,
I'm
happy
to
hear
that.
B
K
When
I
spoke
earlier,
I
was
speaking
from
my
experience,
I'm
sorry
well,
I
was
speaking
earlier
from
my
experience.
I've
actually
referred
multiple
offices
to
get
some
type
of
peer
support,
and
that
was
brought
to
me
by
the
attention
of
all
the
officers
they
were
working
with
and
all
those
officers
have
received
the
help
that
they've
needed.
B
Thank
you.
So
what
is
the
city
us?
What
are
we
doing
to
collaborate
with
you
to
create
a
summer
plan?
The
summer
is
coming,
things
are
getting
worse.
Have
we
collaborated
with
you?
Have
we
partnered
with
you
or
what
have
we
done
or
how?
What
can
we
do
to
collaborate
and
work
on
a
plan
for
the
summer.
O
So
I
can,
are
you
saying
about
about
violence?
So
we've
had
a
number.
There.
We've
had
a
number
of
meetings
with
the
mayor's
office
and
different
community
partners.
I
think
at
least
four
or
five
meetings,
so
maybe
having
the
city
council
be
part
of
those
meetings
because
they
have.
We
have
set
numerous
times
about
what
is
the
summer
plan.
We
also
did
those
months
ago
so
we're
not
waiting
to
the
summer,
so
they're
ongoing,
rufus
fox
heads
them
right,
connect
with
jen.
B
Okay,
great,
I
mean
I,
I
think
I
like
to
go
on
record
in
asking
the
administration
for
here
for
that
information,
absolutely
so
that
we
are
previewed.
I
guess
I'm
going
to
yield
there
so
that
I've
probably
reached
my
time
for
public
testimony.
Are
you
comfortable
there?
I
think
it's
kind
of
odd
when
you
guys
are
standing
back
there
right
and
you
know
one
is
looking
at
you
and
you're
just
speaking
to
people's
backs
right.
This
is
better
you
you
good
there.
B
A
Problem
hi,
my
name
is
joseph
verdu.
I
am
a
part
of
yjp
which
is
useless,
empower
union,
and
today
I
am
here
to
testify,
because
I
I'm
actually
didn't
plan
on
testifying,
but
I
heard
a
few
things
that
made
me
feel
like
I
should
talk.
It
was
said
today
that
officers
work
16
hours
a
days
or
five
days
a
week
and
that
impacts
them
mentally
and
physically
and
their
family
and
the
solution
that
was
brought
up
or
solution.
A
I
was
spoken
of
was
by
increasing
the
number
of
officers
from
200
to
300
every
year
until
we
catch
up,
and
I
personally
feel
like.
Okay,
that's
one
solution,
but
another
solution
that
I
feel
like
is
feasible
and
possible
is
divesting
from
the
police
officers.
I
feel
like
whenever
the
conversation
of
divesting
comes
into
the
circle.
People
don't
tend
to
listen
and
think
that
when
we
say
divest
we
take
away
funds
and
that's
it
leave
them
there,
like
a
bunch
of
people
with
no
money
and
nothing
to
do
with
it.
A
When
we
say
divest,
we
also
mean
taking
away
the
responsibilities
that
certain
police
officers
hold
and
giving
it
to
the
community.
Taking
away
that
extra
burden,
taking
away
that
extra
responsibility
that
they
would
be
expected
to
do
personally.
For
me,
I've
seen
police
officers
respond
very
horribly
in
mental
health
situations,
seeing
them
respond
very
horribly
to
people
who
are
homeless,
see
them
respond
very
horribly
to
people
that
are
on
drugs
that
are
going
through
withdrawal,
and
I
feel
like
that
is
not
their
place.
A
A
What
about
the
mental
health
of
the
people
in
our
community,
the
people
that
feel
terrorized
when
police
officers
around
the
people
that
feel
terrorizing
to
see
when
they
see
red
and
blue
lights,
and
that's
not
to
say
that
they're
criminals,
that's
to
say
that
they
know
that
people
are
out
there
looking
for
them,
not
a
talk
on
the
position
of
brick.
Personally,
I
feel
like
brick
is
not
a
tool,
it's
not
an
instrument.
A
Instead,
I
feel
like
it's
a
racist
system
that
is
implemented
in
communities
of
lower
income,
poc
communities
and
that
they're
nitpicking
on
people
and
finding
little
issues
that's
wrong
with
what
they're
doing
to
give
them
a
reason
to
find
a
way
into
jail.
Currently,
black
people
make
up
13
of
our
population,
but
40
of
those
who
are
incarcerated.
A
I
would
love
to
see
the
number
of
people
who
are
on
brick
that
are
black
the
numbers,
who
are
latinx
the
numbers
who
are
asian
muslims,
and
then
I'd
like
to
see
the
numbers
who
are
white.
I
feel
like
finding
the
white
numbers
would
be
a
lot
harder
like
a
needle
in
a
haystack
during
night
time,
but
that's
all
I
have
to
say
thank
you.
B
T
T
At
the
height
of
the
blm
movement.
Our
city
councilors
were
using
the
opportunity
to
promote
their
agenda
of
being
good-hearted
politicians,
but
at
the
same
time
as
we
see
a
decrease
in
sustainability
within
their
promises
out
of
the
10
promises
in
2020,
while
some
city
councils
try
to
fight
for
divesting
from
the
police
budget,
others
didn't
put
that
much
effort
into
it.
Only
about
2.42
of
the
budget
was
cut
for
some
context.
That's
about
10
million
dollars,
10
million
dollars.
What
is
10
million
going
to
do
for
the
city?
T
We
need
to
make
a
sustainab
sustainable
solution
to
the
budget
cut
where
the
same
momentum
counselors
had
during
the
blm
protest
be
put
into
today's
fight
for
the
budget
cut.
Why
are
you
guys
treating
blm
like
a
fad?
Why
are
you
guys
not
listening
to
the
outcry
of
the
residents?
There's
no
excuse
anymore
to
point
fingers
at
the
mayor.
Now
that
you
have
the
power
to
divest
from
the
budget.
The
responsibility
is
on
you.
Residents
of
this
city.
Don't
want
empty
promises.
T
B
S
Thank
you,
hello.
My
name
is
favorite
egms
and
I'm
here
with
yjpu,
I
like
to
start
off
by
saying
that
I'm
very
grateful
for
this
opportunity.
My
only
wish
is
that
you
guys
don't
take
our
words
with
a
grain
of
salt,
but
actually
listen
and
understand
what
we're
all
trying
to
say
here
today.
Well,
I
do
greatly
appreciate
the
changes
of
the
budget.
I
like
to
say
that
cutting
off
four
million
dollars
from
the
police
budget
doesn't
overwhelm
me
with
joy.
Instead,
I
can't
help
but
think
that
this
is
merely
just
the
bare
minimum.
S
S
I
find
it
a
little
questionable
how
there
are
people
here
who
boldly
asked
about
the
mental
health
of
police
officers,
but
don't
seem
to
advocate
for
the
mental
health
of
people
who
have
gone
through
trauma
because
of
the
police.
The
problem
isn't
that
we're
lacking
in
the
number
of
police.
We
do
not
need
boston
to
become
even
more
police
than
already
is.
I
don't
understand
why
people
think
that
increasing
the
number
of
police
will
decrease
the
number
of
crime.
We
cannot
fight
fire
with
fire.
S
What
we,
what
would
actually
decrease
the
number
of
crime
is
investing
in
other
social
programs
like
public
health,
education
and
youth
jobs.
When
people
are
now
getting
the
opportunities
that
they
deserve,
they're
less
likely
to
get
into
crime,
we
need
to
cut
the
police
budget
to
280
million
dollars,
decrease
the
number
of
police
and
freeze
the
hiring
of
new
police
and
cadets
stop
upholding
white
supremacy
by
giving
the
slave
patrol
what
they
want.
Instead,
listen
to
the
voices
of
the
residents
and
youth
of
boston,
defund
boston,
cops
and
invest
in
the
youth
of
boston.
B
L
Okay,
hello,
my
name
is
nasra
aden
and
I
live
in
district
7
and
I'm
part
of
yjpu
yjpu
is
demanding
that
the
city
of
boston
spends
more
money
on
affordable
housing.
We
want
to
spend
more
money
on
affordable
housing,
so
rent
becomes
easier
to
pay
for
people
who
are
living
in
lower
income.
Households
making,
affordable
housing
will
allow
people
to
have
a
stable
household
and
have
a
safer
place
to
stay.
In
order
to
know
how
much
we
want
to
invest
in
affordable
housing,
we
need
to
know
how
much
the
city
is.
L
L
What
is
the
mayor
doing
with
the
79
million,
that
is,
for
the
reserve
for
collective
bargaining,
since
2020
contract
has
ended?
What
are
they
using
it
for
and
where
is
it
going?
And
if
it's
going
towards
the
police
academy
and
police
force,
then
we
need
to
cut
that
money
down.
Then
it
can
actually
go
into
something
useful
like
affordable
housing
and
youth
jobs.
A
group
called
cfjj
has
released
a
report
saying
that
they
believe
the
pension
cost
is
about
125
million
for
the
police
budget
in
2021.
L
Is
it
true
that
the
administration
is
spending
this
amount
of
money
towards
the
police
budget?
The
report
also
brings
up
how
we
believe
that
about
43
million
is
going
towards
health
insurance
costs
and
in
total
we
believe
that
the
estimated
hitting
cost
is
around
168
million
dollars.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
R
Is
this?
Oh
all
right,
I
don't
know
it's
gonna,
be
that
loud
sorry,
cool,
I'm
not
gonna,
be
here
for
long.
I
just
have
like
one
thing
to
say,
so
my
name
is
reem
and
I'm
a
resident
of
mission
hill-
I'm
not
affiliated,
but
I'm
just
here
to
be
here
and
I'm
here
to
just
respond
to
the
racial
profiling
statement
since
break
is
as
beneficial
as
you
say.
R
U
The
current
police
budget
is
enormous
period
at
400
million
dollars
per
year.
Bpd
is
only
second
to
bps
in
overall
funding,
dwarfing,
all
other
apartment
departments,
that's
almost
three
times
the
size
of
the
cabinet
of
health
and
human
services
and
four
times
the
size
of
the
public
health
commissions,
that's
worrying
at
the
best
of
times,
but
during
a
global
pandemic.
U
Even
when
officers
commit
apparent
violations,
they
refuse
to
take
responsibility
instead
of
pouring
money
into
a
system
plagued
with
prejudice
and
impunity.
It's
time
to
rethink
our
priorities.
Boston
needs
to
prioritize
its
residents
and
not
through
performative
means
such
as
painting
black
lives
matters
on
the
street.
We
want
real
and
effective
change.
U
Boston's
police
department
is
frankly
a
joke.
The
police,
commissioner,
was
fired
over
domestic
violence
allegations.
Many
police
officers
have
been
charged
with
overtime
fraud.
The
former
head
of
the
powerful
truman's
union
was
arrested
and
pled
guilty
for
the
molestation
of
children.
Keep
in
mind
that
the
department
had
known
20
years
prior
that
patrick
rose,
had
sexually
abused
a
child
in
1995,
but
allowed
him
to
remain
on
the
force
and
interact
with
children
in
dorchester,
despite
that,
33
counts
of
sexual
abuse
against
children
aged
7
to
16
years
old.
U
B
Go
d7
district.
Seven,
you
guys
are
a
powerhouse
and
I
appreciate
you
come
anytime.
We
look
forward
to
seeing
each
other
again
in
these
testimonies.
I,
after
hearing
the
final
person
signed
on
I'll,
allow
the
panels
to
respond
if
they
would
like
to
typically
the
format.
Is
we
don't
go
back
and
forth
between
the
public?
B
V
V
I
also
believe
one
of
our
members
staff
members
khalil
is
in
the
zoom
waiting
to
testify
virtually
yeah,
also
calling
on
the
city
council
and
the
mayor
to
divest
under
20
million
dollars
from
the
police
department
and
put
that
in
community
needs,
affordable
housing,
youth
jobs,
community-based
crisis,
response
for
mental
health,
creating
an
office
for
civilian
details
instead
of
police
details,
and
I'm
really
emphasizing
that
both
you
as
chair
of
ways
and
means,
and
the
city
council
in
general
has
the
power
this
year
a
lot
of
times.
We've
come
in
the
past.
V
For
example,
counselor
luigi
and
I
know
you
expressed
concern
well,
if
we
freeze
hiring,
but
what
impact
will
that
make?
Can
we
keep
our
communities
safe
still?
What
will
the
police
do
in
response
if
we
freeze
hiring,
but
if
we
invest
that
money?
I
was
just
looking
at
a
question
there.
Maybe
I'm
misunderstanding,
but
if
we
invest
that
money,
for
example
in
community-led
crisis
response,
then
it's
not
just
about
taking
money
from
police.
V
But
it's
about
investing
right
in
that
alternative
and
that's
what
you'll
have
the
power
to
do
as
the
city
council
is
to
say,
this
is
the
community
program
that
would
actually
keep
us
safer.
Rather
than
the
police,
and
so
hoping
that
y'all
can
be
open
to
really
freezing
hiring
decreasing
the
number
of
police
and
investing
in
what
we
need
instead.
Similarly,
instead
of
a
gang
database,
I've
worked
with
young
people
who
have
been
labeled
as
gang
members
who
are
sleeping
on
couches
in
each
other's
homes,
who
can't
have
jobs.
V
What
if
we
invested
in
housing
and
jobs
that
would
actually
support
young
people?
Young
adults
instead
of
labeling
with
them
with
point
systems
and
getting
them
arrested
and
deported,
and
then
so,
in
terms
of
you
identifying
where
you
can
actually
cut
specific
items
from
the
police
budget,
really
hoping
y'all
really
look
into
the
numbers,
how
many
officers
and
cadets
are
they
hiring
next
year?
How
much
are
they
going
to
cost?
V
What
what
if
you
froze
hiring
didn't?
Have
any
new
police
academy
classes?
How
much
money
would
you
save
next
year
and
in
the
future?
How
does
overtime
really
get
decided
a
lot
of
times?
So
please
say
we
can't.
We
can't
stop
it.
We
have
to
spend
over
time
it's
in
the
contract,
but
it
feels
like
there's
a
lot
of
overtime
hours
that
are
discretionary
and
so
really
figuring
out.
Who
decides
how
many
hours
and
what
is
not
required
by
the
contract?
So
you
can
cut
that
overtime.
Budget.
V
Cutting
the
brick
budget
is
another
way
you
could
put
money
into
things
that
actually
keep
the
community
safe,
there's
other
things
like
contracts
for
clinicians
that
could
be
moved
into
another
department
and
finally,
the
79
million
dollar
fund,
which
it's
worrisome
what's
what's
the
plan?
Is
the
plan
to
give
police
retroactive
raises
one
percent,
two
percent:
you
know
it
looks
like
the
police
budget
has
been
decreasing,
but
all
that's
going
to
just
get
wiped
away.
V
If
we
use
79
million
dollars
to
back
pay
millions
and
millions
so
art,
can
you
actually
cut
that
amount
and
say
all
right
sure,
we'll
we'll
keep
a
collective
bargaining
reserve
for
teachers
and
firefighters?
But
let's
not
use
that
money
for
the
police
and
we'll
use
some
of
that
79
million
for
the
other
things
that
we're
asking
for
so
again
hoping
that
y'all
can
really
identify
some
of
those
concrete
line
items
and
amendments
to
invest
in
what
the
community
is
asking
for.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
testimonies.
I
think
just
clarification,
and
I'm
sure
you
guys
know
this
already
in
terms
of
the
amendment.
So
with
the
amendment
to
the
charter,
we
do
have
now
the
authority
to
amend
the
operations
but
operating
budget.
Of
course
that
includes
bpd
as
well
as
bps,
and
that
that's
sort
of
relying
on
some
clauses
in
the
acts
of
1939
and
others
that
we
have
to
look
in
terms
of
like
how
or
what
autonomy
we
actually
have
on
that
in
terms
of
epd.
B
Yes,
we
do
have
that
autonomy,
and
I
think
that
it's
very
important
for
us
to
clarify
that
what
happens
is
so
by
june
8th.
We
have
to
take
action
and
whether
it's
reject
the
mayor's
budget
proposal
or
accepted
or
amended,
and
with
that
we
need
seven
votes
and
once
we
send
it
over
whatever
action
we
take,
reject,
accept
or
amend
that
requires
seven
votes.
B
Essentially,
we
really
need
nine
votes
from
the
council,
so
it's
important
to
know
that,
because
they're,
you
know
counting
two
thirds
of
the
council
support
is
you
know
harder
than
seven
votes,
and
I
would
encourage
you
to
lobby
your
counselors
as
well
the
rest
of
the
counselors
that
are
not
here,
but
all
of
us
on
these
issues,
and
hopefully
we
we
all
get
to
a
place
that
we're
making
our
city
better
in
a
safer
place.
Thank
you
for
coming
and
you're
welcome
to
remain
for
the
last
round
of
this
session.
W
Sure
my
name
is
paige
sparks
I'm
a
resident
of
jamaica
plain
in
listening
to
the
first
session.
The
theme
that
has
really
stuck
out
to
me
is
the
lack
of
usable
data
coming
out
of
bpd
and
the
data
that
isn't
provided
to
the
public,
including
council,
without
that
data,
there's
really
no
way
for
anyone
to
know
what's
actually
effective
in
keeping
our
community
safe
here
in
boston,
which
is
a
goal.
I
think
we
can
all
agree
on.
W
Additionally,
I
frankly
think
that
the
panel
owes
counselor
mejia
an
apology.
She
asked
for
evidence
and
data
three
or
four
times
about
the
use
of
the
gang
database
and
why
it's
necessary
and
was
met
with
anecdotes
from
the
panel
every
time
and
then,
when
she
shared
a
single
experience
with
the
constituent,
was
told
that
that
was
not
factual.
W
X
X
I
also
you
know
believe
that
we
need
to
divest
120
million
from
the
400
million
boston
police
budget,
including
a
rail
cap
on
overtime
spending,
invest
120
million
into
community
mental
health
response
youth
jobs,
affordable
housing
in
an
office
for
construction
detail.
We
need
to
freeze
all
the
hiring
for
the
boston
police,
no
new
cops,
no
new
cadets
I've
seen
my
neighborhood's
well-being,
safety
and
sense
of
community
neglected
in
favor
of
the
police.
I
don't
really
understa.
X
I
don't
really
understand
what
this
obsession
we
have
with
over
policing,
black
and
brown
communities.
Is
it
just
it's
like
all
the
money
goes
like
so
much
of
this
money
goes
into
police
and
overtime
spending,
and
I
see
I
see
like
just
the
this
flood
of
police
officers
in
my
neighborhood
and
then
nothing
to
really
elevate.
X
My
community
and
I
feel
like
there's
this
theory,
that
you
know
you
make
the
police
diverse
and
you
add,
like
black
and
brown
police
officers
and
that's
going
to
fix
anything
when
we
all
know
that
the
system
of
police
is
just
racist.
It's
always
been
racist.
We
see
from
city
to
city
nowhere
that
nothing
changes
about
that.
X
When
you
add
more
black
and
brown
police
officers,
when
you
add
body
cameras,
there's
like
this
amendment
need
that
people
think
needs
to
happen
to
the
to
the
police
force
when
it's
just
the
force,
we
need
to
shut
down
over
policing
and
I'm
getting
emotional
like
watching
watching
this
whole
thing
on
zoom.
You
know,
I
can't
even
say
anything.
You
know,
I'm
not
I'm
not!
Next
to
my
people,
I
had
to
stay
home.
My
sister's
sick,
but
it's
just
like
in
the
rudeness
y'all
are
you're.
Treating
counselor
mejia
with
it
was
just
like.
X
Yo
like
this
is
real
life.
People
are
affected.
You
know
you
have
this.
This
like
gang
database,
point
system
where,
like
people
who
are
wearing
the
wrong
colors,
who
are
living
next
to
people
who
might
be
in
a
gang
or
whatever
you
know,
are
added
to
it,
and
it's
just
really
to
build
these
racist
narratives.
These
narratives
that
only
impact
black
and
brown
people
yeah.
That's
it.
Y
Okay,
thank
you
first,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
madam
chair
and
to
the
boston
city
council
for
hosting
this
meeting.
I
have
listened
to
this
entire
session
and
I
am
absolutely
astounded-
and
I
am
ashamed
to
be
a
resident
of
the
city
of
boston
at
this
particular
time.
There
is
no
type
of
camaraderie.
There
is
no
type
of
sense
of
community
that
encompasses
everyone.
B
Y
Okay,
so
so
let
me
just
reiterate
that
I'm
amazed
that
the
criminals
are
still
out
there,
the
crime
is
getting
worse
and
we
all
know
that
we
all
read
the
newspapers,
look
at
what's
happening
in
downtown
boston,
and
yet
we
want
to
take
police
away
when
we
have
mental
health.
Social
workers
handling
issues.
Are
the
police
going
to
escort
them
in
there
or
are
we
going
to
arm
our
social
workers
because
they're
very
dangerous
situations
that
involve
mental
health,
particularly
domestic
abuse?
Y
Y
Y
B
P
P
Who
are
undocumented,
who
are
who
are
afraid
who
don't
know
how
to
stand
up
for
their
rights,
who
don't
know
how
to
show
up,
and
so
that?
That's?
What
I
believe
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
there's
so
much
tension
right,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
create
the
dynamic
of
us
versus
them.
But
at
some
point
we
need
to
recognize
that
the
issues
of
race
are
real
and
they
show
up
in
staffing.
P
They
show
up
in
these
streets.
They
show
up
in
our
protocols
our
policies
and
our
procedures
right.
They
show
up
and
if
we
can't
talk
about
them
and
own
them,
then
we're
not
going
to
have
the
right
conversation,
and
so
I
think
it's
really
important
for
us
to
just
acknowledge
that
we
need
to
get
out
of
our
own
way
sometimes
and
get
real
so
that
people
can
can
can
feel
affirmed
and
heard.
So
no
there's
no
clapping
in
this
chamber,
I'm
just
like
it's
a
violation
of
the
decorum.
But
I
appreciate
that.
P
But
I
I
do
have
a
question
because
it
was
just
quite
interesting
because
I
used
the
inappropriate
terms
when
I
was
talking
about
the
stop
and
frisk
and
all
this
other
stuff.
So
sorry,
my
bad,
but
I'm
just
curious
and
I'm
not
sure
who
would
answer
this,
but
does
an
officer
document
his
or
her
quote-unquote
reasonable
suspicion
when
they
conduct
a
terry
stop.
P
E
P
P
E
Is
it
reasonable
suspicion
that,
in
the
same
area
that
that
was
broadcast,
then
you
see
someone
matching
that
description
you
go
over
there.
You
stop
that
person
and
you
talk
to
him.
That
would
be
a
terry
stop
based
on
reasonable
suspicion,
articulable
facts
that
are
either
transmitted
to
you
from
another
person
or
broadcast
on
the
radio
or
a
bulletin
or
by
some
means
it
has
to
be
facts.
E
E
I
would
say
every
day
in
the
city
of
boston:
it
could
be
a
myriad
of
crimes
could
be
a
robbery
shooting
a
larceny
and
a
description
is
given
and
if
a
person
meets
that
description
matches
that
description
and
is
in
the
area
the
crime
occurred.
That's
a
simplified
example
of
a
terry
stop,
an
investigative
stop.
Okay,.
P
P
P
I
mean
you
were
really
specific
around
the
red
sweatshirt,
but
let's
just
any
color
sweatshirt
like.
Can
you
just
kind
of
unpack
that
a
little
bit
more,
because
what
I
really
want
people
to
understand
is
like
how
this
shows
up
and
and
and
the
correlation
between
why
we
feel
over
criminalized
and
over.
O
I
know
what
you're
saying,
because
I
think
when
we
stop
the
person
for
reason,
suspicion
there's
more
than
just
the
general
thing.
So
there's
a
group
of
people
walking
with
a
hoodie,
the
officer
or
we
have
to
make
sure
that
there's
something
that
stands
out.
There's
an
artistic,
a
fact
that
we
have
that's
going
to
stand
out,
that
we
can
articulate
of.
Why
we
stop
that
person.
We
don't
just
stop
everyone,
we
see.
O
So
that's
what
we're
trying
to
say
it's
hard
to
describe
it,
because
every
fact
in
every
scenario
is
different,
so
but
there's
something
that
we're
looking
for
something
a
location,
something
that
stands
out
that
isn't
ordinary,
that's
more
of
it.
So
something
that's
more
than
the
ordinary,
because
we
know
in
the
neighborhoods
a
lot
of
people
might
have
on
hoodies
ripped
jeans,
all
that.
O
So
what
is
the
fact
that
we
have
that
we
can
articulate
while
we
stopped
you
over
the
eight
other
people
that
we
saw
and
the
officers
do,
use
that
that's
where
the
intel
comes
in.
That's
where
all
those
other
factors
come
in
the
radio
call.
Sometimes
the
dispatch
is
describing
more
things.
Oh,
they
just
put
a
bottle
down.
Okay,
so
if
there's
a
group
of
people-
and
they
just
put
a
bottle
down-
that's
another
fact
right.
Sometimes
they
call
us.
So
we
look
more
than
for
more
evidence
before
we
stop
them.
P
Right
and
I
think
to
that
point,
there's
something
that
we
can
all
learn
right
in
terms
of
education
and
informing
the
public.
Everybody
has
the
right
to
know
what
reasonable
suspicion
looks
like
and
how
it's
showing
up
so
that
when
they
become
a
target
or
victim
of
it,
they
know
what
is
that
play
and
you're
shaking
your
head,
because
you
agree
with
me:
oh
you
do.
Let
me
find
out,
you
agree
with
me:
bring
it
yes,
ma'am.
I
I
One
of
the
points
that
was
made
before
by
superintendent
walcott,
with
the
phone
call
that
you
received
ma'am,
was
that
there
could
have
been
an
incident
that
occurred.
We
don't
know,
but
there
could
have
been
an
incident
that
led
to
that
person
being
stopped
for
that
exact
reason.
So
I'm
nodding
my
head.
Yes
in
the
sense
of
of
yes,
I
think
more
public
education
is
is
extremely
helpful
in
helping
to
articulate
these
things
and-
and
I.
E
Think
you're,
coming
from
the
you're
coming
from
a
perspective
that
the
officer
is
stopping
someone
because
out
of
some
kind
of
malice,
but
the
opposite
is
actually
true.
The
officer
is
thinking
it
was
just
a
robbery.
Am
I
letting
this
guy
go?
Am
I
letting
this
robber
go?
That's
what's
going
through
his
mind
now,
most
most
terry
stops
or
investigative
stops,
maybe
not
most
but
yeah,
I
would
say
most
fair
amount.
E
So,
if,
at
the
end
of
the
terry
stop
you
either
have
probable
cause
to
proceed
with
an
arrest
or
you
can
release
that
person
and
again.
I
think
that
that
people
are
coming
at
this
from
a
point
of
view,
that
cop
has
some
malicious
intent
in
stopping
that
person,
and
I'm
telling
you
the
opposite,
is
true:
they're
concerned
about
releasing
a
suspect
or
a
felon
or
someone.
That's
armed
that
could
do
more
could
do
more
damage
so
that
that's
what's
behind
the
office's
motivation
and
oftentimes.
E
They
are
dealing
with
limited
information
because
you're
you're
at
it's
at
night
or
you're,
dealing
with
a
distraught
victim
or
it's
second
hand,
information.
The
victim
calls
his
mother,
his
mother
calls
9-1-1
so
you're.
If
you
think
or
you're
going
to
assume
that
the
police
officer
is
always
going
to
have
every
detail.
That's
not
reality
that
doesn't
happen.
He's
dealing
with
a
a
very
dynamic
emerging
and
oftentimes
violent
situation
and
he's
trying
to
piece
he
or
she
trying
to
piece
information
together
and
that
that's
reality,
that's
how
it
occurs.
Yeah.
P
P
O
I
think
that's
where
dialogues
come
into
play,
that
I
think
that's
where
that
community
policing
element
of
not
going
to
call
to
call
and
who's
there
to
have
that
conversation
police
officers
with
our
youth
with
our
elderly
with
our
community.
So
it's
very
important
when
we
talk
about
community
policing
and
engagement,
it's
so.
We
can
have
these
meaningful
conversations
and
I
think
it's
important.
P
And
the
fact
that
I
have
to
even
be
afraid
to
to
speak
to
you
all
about
how
I
feel
and
the
questions
that
I
have
speaks
volumes
right,
because
I
know
I'm
not
gonna
say
I'm
on
a
hit
list.
But
I
know
I'm
not
in
your
favorites
list
right
for
some
of
y'all,
and
that
is
something
else
that
I
need
to
name.
There
is
a
hostility
out
there
towards
certain
individuals
who
tend
to
be
a
little
bit
louder
and
you
get
targeted
for
speaking
truth
to
power.
B
Q
Q
It's
often
built
on
the
understanding
of
not
bypoc
folks
of
not
what
we
understand
as
reasonable,
and
I
think
that's
the
inherent
problem
in
our
criminal
legal
system,
and
so
I
think
the
questions
about.
Even
when
you
define
it
it.
The
definition
makes
sense,
but
its
application
is
dependent
on
what
you
come
to
the
space
with
and
oftentimes
folks
are
coming
into
that
space
with
their
own
bias
with
their
own,
whatever
it
is,
and
that's
where
the
tension
is.
That's
why
I'm
like?
Q
I
don't
like
discretion,
sometimes
because
discretion
leads
to
individualized
decisions
that
are
often
putting
black
and
brown
folk
down
right.
It's
a
foot
on
the
neck
and
that
I
just
want
to
call
that
out.
It's
not
as
simple
as
just
giving
the
definition,
because
if
not
life
would
be
black
and
white,
and
it's
not
because
it's
there's
individualized
application
that
is
rooted
in
racist
practices.
E
Q
And
then
just
want
to
reiterate
that
I
look
forward
to
seeing
the
policy
that
comes
out
of
bpd
regarding
affirming
care
health
care
that
folks
receive
around
gender,
affirming
health
care
and
abortion
care
here
in
the
state
in
the
city,
which
is
what
we
have
jurisdiction
over,
hopefully
with
some
haste.
Thank
you
thank.
B
B
B
F
Well,
investigating
homicides.
We
need
not
only
the
hard
work
and
investigative
steps
done
by
the
police
office,
but
we
need
cooperation.
We
need
witnesses.
We
need
video
that
will
help
us
cooperate.
The
information
that
we
have
there
are
also
people
that
are
more
cooperative,
cooperating
than
others,
so
I
wouldn't
put
a
number
on
why
cases
are
not
being
solved
just
based
on
race,
but
I
believe
a
lot
of
it
takes
an
account
of
what
information
that
we
have.
Some
people
come
forward
and
say
yes,
I
saw
this
is
the
vehicle
that
I
left.
F
F
How
can
you
protect
my
family
if
I
come
come
forward
and
I
don't
want
to
get
involved
because
I
have
to
still
live
here,
so
it
all
depends
a
lot
of
it.
I
think
it's
just
people
are
just
nervous
and
they're
afraid
and
some
people
do
after
a
time
they
come
in
and
cooperate,
but
then
there's
others
that
just
don't
want
to
get
involved
at
all.
B
N
B
M
We
look
at
run
rates.
We
look
at
prior
year
run
rates.
We
also
try
to
look
at
what
special
events,
because
we
want
to.
We
don't
want
to
put
that
in
our
run
rate
for
the
entire
year,
because
you
don't
have
a
special
event.
Every
week,
every
month
we
pull
those
out
in
some
instances.
It's
very
it's.
It's
tough
to
predict.
B
M
B
E
On
call
volume
and
it's
based
on
historical
crime
data,
that's
analyzed
and,
as
I
stated
before,
the
mechanism
for
that
is
comstat.
However,
if
you
don't
have
the
manpower
which
we
don't
have,
you
can't
really
adjust
it
right.
So
we're
kind
of
at
that
point
right
now,
but
if
you're
talking
about
an
individual
district
and
what
they
have
on
the
day
shift
or
the
first
half
or
the
midnight
shift,
that
is
the
district
commander.
He
determines
that,
based
on
the
needs
of
his
district.
E
If
he
needs
more
service
cars,
that's
one
man,
cars
because
he
has
a
series
of
bnes,
and
that
only
requires
one
man.
Car
he's
obviously
gonna
have
one
more
more
one-man
cars.
If
you're
in
a
district
like
district,
two
or
three,
where
there's
more
aggravated
assaults,
then
obviously
you're
gonna
have
you're
gonna
want
more
two-man
cars
because
it's
a
safer
situation
and
they're
more
out
there
they're
more
capable
of
dealing
with
a
violent
situation.
If
there's
two
offices
there
so
again,
there's
no
there's
no
formula.
B
P
M
M
V
O
O
M
As
I
understand
that
you
know,
I
was
coached
a
lot
this
this
year,
but
by
michael
gaskins,
because
this
is
my
first
year
pretty
much
heavily
involved
in
the
recruit
process.
But,
as
I
understand
it
is
that
we
do,
we
do
take
a
look
at
our
neighborhoods
and
what
we're
looking
for
as
what
we
think
we
need
for
the
languages
and
we
submit
that
to
the
state
when
we
call
for
the
list
and
the
state
will
determine
whether
or
not
we
need
that
list.
M
B
B
M
Well,
we're
working
with
the
city
and
hopefully
expanding
that,
and
basically
I
feel
like
this
city's
making
great
efforts
are
trying
to
make
efforts
to
basically
obviously
educate
the
consumer.
The
best
consumer
is
the
most
educated
consumer
in
the
sense
of
once.
They
know
how
the
procurement
process
works.
A
lot
of
people
don't
know,
there's
a
bid
process.
A
lot
of
people
don't
know
that
you
need
to
go
into
the
city
portal
to
submit
a
bid.
M
I
think
that
it's
very
key
that
we
continue
to
have
these
vendor
fears
that
we've
been
having
all
along
having
these
in
covet.
We
did
online,
I
mean
I
just
feel
the
more
they
know.
I
know
that
the
city
is
planning
on
providing
them
technical
assistance,
because
we
get
a
lot
of
phone
calls
saying
I'm
having
difficulty
getting
into
the
into
the
portal,
but
I,
but
I
also,
I
truly
believe
that
we're
not
capturing
all
these
small
businesses,
women
owned
business,
minority
owned
business
because
it's
it's
not
a
when
you
sign
up.
M
M
We
would
like
to
procure
local,
but
I
mean
again
it's
it's.
It's
really.
You
know
it's
based
on
mass
general
law,
how
we
go
up
to
bid.
We
do
try
everything
we
can
to
make
sure
that
we're
going
down
the
certified
list
and
letting
those
vendors
know
that
there's
a
bid
out
there
for
them
to
bid,
but
until
the
laws
change
I
mean
it's,
the
lowest
bidder
prevails.
M
Not
that
nothing
I
mean
the
only
the
only
difference
too,
with
the
lowest
bid
might
not
prevail.
If
you
go
out
for
a
request
for
proposal
a
lot
of
times,
you
might
go
up
for
a
request
for
a
proposal.
If
you're
looking
for
a
unique
service
that
just
wouldn't
be
you
wouldn't
want
to
get
the
lowest
bid.
M
C
B
K
B
B
K
B
B
B
B
If
he
asks
me
for
braids,
I'm
terrified,
if
he
asks
to
wear
a
certain
hoodie,
I'm
terrified,
I
won't
let
him
go
to
certain
areas.
I
won't
let
him
go
to
a
certain
corner
store.
I
won't
let
him
wear
certain
type
of
clothes.
That's
a
re!
That's
reality
right!
That's
trauma!
That's
me
as
a
black
mother
in
boston,
and
I
understand
it's
not
as
bad
as
other
states
or
other
cities.
B
I
understand,
and
I
we
appreciate
you
and
whether
or
not
you
sit
here
with
you,
know
some
sort
of
defensive
mechanism
and
it's
not
for
all
of
you.
Most
of
you
have
been
amicably
responding
with
no
defensive.
Whatever
we've
we've
tried-
and
I
think
have
shown
you
that
we
understand
and
we
want
to
work
together.
B
We
look
forward
to
connecting
with
you
and
communicating
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
you're
going
to
return
to
this
chamber
and
communicating
more.
I
would
love
to
come
in
and
get
more
insight
and
visit
and
understand,
more
and
and
then
continue
on
in
the
chamber
or
work
in
sessions
whatever
the
next
step
is
and
really
understand,
because
I'm
a
fake
I'm
a
fan
of
practical
solutions
and
if
I
don't
know
anything,
I'm
not
going
to
say
just
you
know,
reduce
or
increase.
B
P
No
just
I
just
want
to
thank
our
public
testimony
and
the
young
people
that
were
here.
I
really
do
appreciate
everyone
who
uplifted
their
voices-
and
I
also
just
want
to
thank
the
men
and
women
who
every
day
go
out
and
and
do
everything
that
they
can
to
take
care
of
our
families
and
our
communities.
P
We
can't
blame
you
for
things
that
we
have
done,
because
the
city
council
is
responsible
for
approving
the
budget
right,
so
the
conditions
that
are
created,
if
we're
not
investing
more
in
reallocating
resources
to
address
the
prevention
and
interventions
that
our
city
needs
right.
All
of
that
we're
responsible
for
the
mess
that
we
keep
pointing
fingers
on,
and
that
includes
every
single
study
budget.
P
P
P
B
Thank
you,
and
I
I
have
I'd
like
to
second,
that
thank
you
to
the
public
testimony
the
youth
that
came,
you
guys
are
powerful.
I
encourage
you
to
complete
continue
to
speak
truth
to
power.
Continue
to
advocate,
continue
to
be
bold
and
courageous.
We
appreciate
you
and
we
hope
to
do
right
by
you.
Please
submit
your
testimonies
to
the
committee
as
well
as
to
the
to
the
mayor's
office
and
to
the
other
councilors
for
consideration.