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Description
Docket #0191, zoning relief for affordable projects
B
B
My
name
is
Frank
Baker
for
the
record
city
council
for
district
three
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
Boston
city
council
committee,
on
Planning,
Development
and
transportation.
I
want
to
remind
you
that
this
is
a
public
hearing
being
recorded
and
broadcast
live
on
Xfinity
8,
RCN,
82,
FiOS,
964
and
streamed
on
www.boston.gov
City,
Dash
console
Dash
TV.
Please
silence
your
cell
phones.
I!
Do
not
see
anyone
signed
up
for
public
testimony,
but
we
will
take
public
testimony
at
the
end.
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket
number
zero
one,
nine
one.
B
This
matter
is
sponsored
by
Kenzie
Bach
of
District
eight
and
was
referred
to
committee
on
Planning
Development
Transportation
on
January
26
2022,
an
order
for
a
hearing
regarding
zoning
relief
for
affordable,
affordable
projects
with
that
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
Council
from
District
8,
Kenzie
Bach
and
the
Council
of
District
nine
Liz
Braden
good
morning.
Everybody-
and
do
you
want
to
do
opening
remarks
yeah
yeah,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Kenzie
for
her
opening
remarks.
B
Thank
you,
Kenzie
Council
block.
You
have
the
floor.
C
Thank
you
so
much
Mr
chair
and
thank
you
to
the
administration
for
being
here
today.
This
we're
we're
really
excited
this
hearing.
It's
jumping
off
of
some
work
that
we
did
in
the
last
session
and
we
actually
had
a
a
hearing
here
in
March
2021
talking
about
options
for
Expediting,
affordable
housing
development,
so
we
can
get
more
affordable
units
built
in
the
city
for
counselors
I've,
provided
the
memo
from
that
hearing
back
in
March
2021.
C
So
if
folks
can
see
it
and
for
reference,
one
of
the
first
things
on
our
list
at
the
time
was
parking
relief,
lifting
parking
minimums
for
majority,
affordable
projects
and
I
was
so
glad.
That
was
something
the
council
passed
unanimously
last
year
and
was
signed
by
the
mayor,
one
of
the
first
things
she
signed
actually
and
and
then
so.
We
kind
of
refiled
this
in
January
hoping
to
continue
to
work
on
that
agenda
and
so
was
very
pleased
to
see
the
Wu
Administration
sign
an
executive
order.
C
A
couple
of
months
back
calling
for
you
know
all
of
the
Departments
to
work
together
to
expedite,
affordable
housing,
development
and
I
know
that
the
the
sort
of
review
assessment
of
like
what
that's
going
to
look
like
what
it
cashes
out
into
is
ongoing.
C
And
so
we
really
called
this
hearing
today,
not
as
a
way
to
try
to
force
the
administration
to
make
announcements
before
it's
ready,
but
more
as
a
chance
to
make
sure
that,
while
we're
in
this
period
of
of
surveying
and
thinking
about
this,
that
there's
a
chance
for
counselors
Administration
members,
members
of
the
public
Advocates
from
organizations
like
abundant
housing,
M.A
and
housing
forward
to
kind
of
get
on
the
table.
C
Some
of
these
options
that
that
we're
interested
in
and
excited
about,
so
that
we
can
kind
of
use
the
window
created
by
the
executive
order
to
to
the
best
of
our
ability,
because
you
know
I
just
think
that
affordable
housing
is
one
of
those
things
where
we
can
set
targets
and
say
this
is
the
need
in
the
city.
And
fundamentally
the
question
for
those
of
us
in
City.
Hall
has
to
be
like.
Well.
How
do
we
get
there
from
here
and
how
do
we?
Actually?
C
You
know,
make
sure
that
we
have
processes
where
we're
just
every
project
gets
a
bit
easier
because
I
think
that's
the
other
thing.
Is
it's
easy
to
identify
one
or
two
projects
and
throw
all
of
our
like
shoulders
into
making
them
happen,
but
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that's
been
most
encouraging
to
me
since
we
passed
the
affordable
housing.
D
D
Affordability
is
the
huge,
the
biggest
challenge
we
have
and
I'm
a
tremendous
advocate
for
mixed
mixed
income,
housing
and
in
any
any
which
way
we
can
do
it,
but
we
still
have
that
need
for
the
more
deeply
affordable
units
and
then
the
spectrum
of
affordability
that
will
meet
the
needs
and
we
sort
of
have
an
inverse
we're
building
way
more
market
rate
housing
than
we're
building
up
affordable
and
it's
totally
out
of
out
of
out
of
sync
with
what
we
really
need.
D
E
The
deputy
director
for
Neighborhood
Housing
Development
in
the
mayor's
office
of
housing
I'm
here
today
with
colleagues
from
from
my
office,
I'm
Dan
lesser,
the
director
of
operations
of
the
mayor's
office
of
Housing
and
Nolan
Greene,
the
director
of
innovation
and
Technology,
as
well
as
the
bpda
and
Boston
Housing
Authority
I'm
pleased
to
be
here
today
to
discuss
our
opportunity
to
deploy
new
Tools
in
support
of
making
Boston
an
affordable
home
for
all
I'm,
really
proud
of
the
work
that
the
mayor's
office
of
housing
does
in
partnership
with
the
agencies
who
are
at
the
table
with
us
today
with
your
offices,
the
development
community
and
the
residents
of
Boston
to
create
affordable
housing.
E
E
But
as
we've
talked
about
this
morning
and
many
times
before,
this
work
is
not
enough.
Half
of
all
renters
and
28
of
all
homeowners
in
Boston
are
considered
cost
burden,
which
means
that
they
pay
more
than
30
percent
of
their
income
every
month
on
their
housing
costs,
residents
can
wait
years
on
waiting
lists
for
an
opportunity
to
rent
or
buy
an
affordable
housing
unit,
as
as
councilor
Bach
mentioned,
and
as
the
council
recognized
in
2021.
E
The
permanent
Supportive
Housing
project
at
3368,
Washington
Street,
which
is
currently
under
construction
building.
202
new
homes
took
917
days
from
when
it
initially
filed
until
they
actually
obtained
their
building
permit
between
2013
and
2019
of
the
35
affordable
housing
projects
subject
to
article
80
review.
Six
of
them
took
more
than
two
years
to
complete
the
article
80
approval
process
and
many
took
much
longer
to
receive
their
building
permits.
E
These
extended
time
frames
are
not
only
frustrating
and
inefficient
extended
time
spent
in
an
approval
process
means
developers
eager
to
address
our
housing
crisis
cannot
engage
in
additional
projects.
It
means
that
already
funded
projects
request
additional
funds
that
should
go
to
new
projects
or
the
projects
lose
out
on
state
funding
Awards.
While
they
wait
to
complete
our
approval
processes,
it
can
also
mean
neighborhoods,
wait,
extended
periods
of
time
for
the
transformation
of
blighted
or
empty
properties
into
affordable
housing
and,
most
importantly,
it
means
longer
weights
for
housing
stability
for
our
residents.
E
F
Thanks
Jessica,
thank
you
to
councilor
Baker,
councilor,
Bach
and
committee
members
for
inviting
us
to
be
part
of
this
important
discussion.
As
Jessica
said,
my
name
is
Dan:
lesser
I'm,
the
director
of
operations
for
the
mayor's
office
of
housing,
building
on
Jessica's
important
contacts,
we'd
like
to
give
you
a
brief
update
on
our
progress
towards
implementing
the
mayor's
executive
order
to
accelerate
the
production
of
affordable
housing.
F
To
do
that,
the
order
has
five
main
components:
first,
prioritizing
affordable
housing
in
the
review
process
and
analyzing
opportunities
to
improve
the
current
process.
Second,
creating
a
new
path
for
affordable
housing
within
the
article
80
process,
three
studying
and
addressing
zoning
challenges
for
affordable
housing;
fourth,
creating
a
new
coordinated
tracking
system
for
affordable
housing
reviews
and
approvals;
and
fifth,
establishing
a
governance
structure
for
implementation
of
this
order.
F
We
are
currently
in
the
process
of
meeting
with
all
the
relevant
departments
and
agencies
to
discuss
the
process
for
prioritizing
affordable
housing
and
identifying
areas
where
the
process
could
be
streamlined.
I'm
happy,
but
not
surprised
to
share
that
all
the
partner
agencies
are
eager
to
work
towards
implementing
the
executive
order
and
they
definitely
see
the
opportunity
and
the
challenges
we're
against.
F
G
The
BP
days
work
thanks
Dan
good
morning.
Everyone
for
the
record,
I'm,
Devin,
Quirk,
deputy
chief
for
development
and
transformation
at
the
BPA
and
I
also
want
to
thank
the
council
for
making
time
for
this
important
conversation.
Today,
mayor
Wu
has
charged
our
staff
at
the
bpda
to
transform
the
agency
in
our
fight
to
make
the
city
a
more
resilient,
more
more
affordable
and,
ultimately,
more
Equitable
place
to
live.
G
In
recent
years,
Boston
has
experienced
rapid
economic
expansion,
especially
in
certain
sectors
like
life
science,
and
this
has
brought
many
high-paying
jobs
to
our
city,
broaden
our
tax
base
and
provide
the
city
with
new
resources
to
broaden
our
services.
But
this
expansion
has
also
placed
tremendous
pressure
on
our
housing
market
and,
most
importantly,
created
extreme
pressures
on
many
bostonians
to
be
able
to
afford
to
continue
to
live
here.
G
The
issue
is
particularly
acute
as
this
Council
knows,
amongst
amongst
communities
of
color
facing
displacement,
young
people
trying
to
start
their
careers
in
our
city
and
also
among
our
essential
workers
that
form
the
backbone
of
our
economy.
It's
within
that
context
that
we're
working
to
implement
Mary,
Lou's
executive
order.
Ultimately,
there
are
four
main
tools
that
we
can
deploy
to:
accelerate,
affordable
housing
production,
land
funding,
operational
efficiencies
to
get
units
completed
more
quickly
and
changing
regulatory
tools
to
add
incentives
to
reduce
barriers
to
affordable
housing
creation,
well,
land
and
funding
are
less.
G
The
focus
of
today's
hearing.
I
think
it's
important
to
say
that
we
continue
to
prioritize
our
efforts
in
this
space
at
mayor
Wu's
direction.
We
completed
a
land
audit
this
year
of
public
real
estate
that
the
city
can
bring
to
the
table
to
increase,
affordable
housing
production
and
we're
also
prioritizing
efforts
to
acquire
property
off
the
speculative
Market
to
reserve
it
for
affordable
housing.
G
There
are
certainly
opportunities
to
require
more
affordable
housing
production
through
inclusionary
zoning
or
incent
private
Market,
the
private
Market
to
build
more
income
restricted
units
through
tools
like
density
bonuses.
In
addition,
we're
considering
what's
on,
what's
unnecessary
in
the
regulatory
buyers
in
our
zoning
code,
what
and
what
what
barriers
they
put
in
place
to
affordable
housing
creation?
A
great
example
of
this
is
councilor
block
mentioned.
Is
our
work
together
to
eliminate
parking
minimums
for
affordable
housing?
G
Historically,
parking
minimums
triggered
the
need
for
zoning
variances
and
those
slowed
down
permitting
processes
and
expose
these
really
important
projects
to
Legal
challenges,
so
we're
working
to
identify
similar
roadblocks
in
the
zoning
code
and
find
ways
to
avoid
or
eliminate
them.
Ultimately,
we
believe
that
housing
is
a
human
right
and
we
will
work
to
us
as
we
work
to
establish
a
new
future
for
the
agency.
It
is
imperative
that
the
bpda
do
everything
its
power
to
make
Boston
a
more
affordable
place
to
live
for
bostonians
of
all
incomes
and
backgrounds.
H
Good
morning,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Joel,
while
I'm
the
chief
of
staff
at
the
Boston
Housing
Authority
I,
want
to
first
thank
the
the
members
of
the
council.
The
chair,
sponsor
members
here,
as
well
as
the
mayor's
team
on
my
left,
for
their
focus
on
accelerating
the
review
of
affordable
housing
projects
and
as
well
as
investing
in
public
housing
administered
by
the
BHA
and
we're
appreciating
as
a
as
an
owner
and
manager
of
housing.
H
The
work
of
the
task
force
to
dig
deep
to
implement
the
executive,
the
recently
promulgated
executive
order,
I
think
the
the
the
short
the
short
synopsis
of
our
position
on
this
one
is
that,
as
an
owner
and
manager
of
public
housing,
the
sponsor
of
multiple
different
kinds
of
Partnerships
we're
an
eager
partner
in
efforts
to
make
it
easier
for
housing
that
serves
while
students
lowest
income
residents
to
be
built
and
to
be
maintained.
H
In
partnership
with
mayor
Wu's
team,
we
were
thinking
through
scenarios
where
the
BHA
or
its
Affiliates
currently
under
count,
currently
encounter
zoning
review
through
the
article
80
process
or
require
zoning
relief
of
some
kind,
certain
variances
or
other
other
zoning.
Related
processes
so
I'm
going
to
give
three
just
kind
of
examples,
just
to
paint
the
picture
of
how
we
run
into
it,
and
it's
it'll
be
quite
quick.
So
one
of
the
one
of
the
areas
that
we're
talking
through
with
our
colleagues
at
bpda
and
mayor's
office
of
housing
is
just
BHA
owned.
H
Rehabilitation
projects
in
recent
Years
A
pathway
on
these
has
been
that
the
BHA
is
transferring
to
Legal
ownership
to
a
BHA
owned
affiliate,
so
it's
100
publicly
controlled
still,
and
we
attach
Section
8
vouchers
to
that
project
because
it
brings
in
more
Revenue
that
can
finance
a
total
Rehabilitation
project.
So
in
the
case
of
those
projects
and
Lower,
Mills
or
Saint
patalf
would
be
examples.
We
do
typically
go
through
article
80..
H
That
may
be
an
area
where
there's
room
for
operational
efficiency,
where
both
BHA
and
bpda
staff
can
redirect
their
attention
elsewhere.
So
we're
in
dialogue
about
that
category
of
projects,
and
then
you
know
there
are
really
a
couple
of
other
categories.
One
is
just
that
we,
in
addition
to
sort
of
Public
public
redevelopments,
where
we're
partnering
with
ourselves
in
the
city.
We
have
public
private
elements.
H
I
think
that
many
of
those
projects
and
we're
thinking
about
like
Bunker,
Hill
or
Mary
Ellen
McCormick,
to
the
extent
that
they
hit
a
certain
level
of
affordability
in
terms
of
the
overall
percentage
they
may
be
covered
by
the
executive
order
and
implicated
By
changes
that
come
through
the
executive
order,
so
that
you
know
we're
we're
happy
to
do
anything
that
can
you
know,
reduce
the
legal
costs
associated
with
a
project
or
help.
H
You
know
accelerate
the
work
of
staff
to
make
those
projects
happen
and
then,
finally,
in
new
construction
examples
where
it's
a
BHA
or
city-owned
parcel
or
or
a
private
parcel,
where
we
may
have
some
involvement
so
whether
it's
BHA
building
new
units,
a
joint
venture
of
some
kind,
let's
say
the
VHA
we're
a
51
owner
or
if
it's
just
even
thinking
about
private
housing,
that's
going
for
project-based
Section
8..
Potentially
any
of
those
categories
of
projects
will
be
implicated
by
the
good
work
of
Mike,
the
colleagues
my
left
and
of
the
council.
H
B
Foreign,
that's
it.
Thank
you
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
Council
Flynn
Council
Flynn.
Do
you
have
an
opening
statement.
I
No,
no
thank
you.
Mr
chair,
okay,.
B
Thank
you
guys
for
coming
out.
What
did
I
just
do
with
my.
B
So
Devin
you
had
talked
about
I.
Think
you
said:
I
haven't
written
down
here:
someplace
tools
for.
B
Like
you
were
talking
about
zoning
and
and
article
80
like
explain
to
me
some
of
these
tools
because
there's
nobody
here
from
ISD
and
everything
basically
goes
through
ISD
they're
severely,
you
know
understaffed,
and
everybody
knows
you
need
plans,
examiners
we
need
we
need
so
if,
if
all
of
the,
if
all
of
the
affordable
projects
get
fast-tracked
what
happens
to
everything
else,
so
we're
going
to
look
at
three
years
of
only
affordable
being
built
there
or
only
affordable
being
permitted.
That.
G
That's
a
great
question,
Council
and
I
appreciate
that
you
started
the
the
question
with
the
issue
capacity,
because
capacity
is
absolutely
a
major
part
of
the
solution
and
that's
an
issue
and
I
think
in
multiple
departments,
not
just
ISD,
that's
something!
We've
we've
talked
about
it
as
an
issue
on
our
own
staff,
too.
There's
a
lot
happening
in
Boston.
There
are
there's
a
lot
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
development
pressure
in
some
places.
G
That's
good
in
the
places
like
we're
talking
about
here,
there's
negative
consequences,
so
it's
important
for
us
to
be
able
to
respond
to
that
there.
We
are
both
looking
at
Alternatives
paths
for
affordable
housing
that
give
it
some
prioritized
attention.
So
yes,
in
some
cases,
that
would
be
a
trade-off
decision
but
I
think,
more
importantly,
we're
looking
for
opportunities
to
change
the
process
for
affordable
housing.
So
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
a
trade-off
with.
G
B
G
If
we
just
established
that
you
know
it,
we,
we
took
a
look
at
what
are
the
we're
actively
still
doing
this?
What
are
the,
what
are
the
variance
triggers
at
ISD
for
affordable
housing
and
height,
and
far
at
the
top
list?
Insufficient
off
street
parking
had
historically
been
one
that
that
barrier
has
now
been
eliminated.
So
we
can.
We
can
consider
changes
to
the
zoning
code
to
add
a
little
bit
more
height,
add
a
little
bit
more
density
and
to
eliminate
that
trigger,
thus
taking
a
step
out
of
the
process.
G
So
that
would
be
one
example
of
how
we
could
and
that
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
come
at
the
expense
of
community
feedback.
But
in
some
cases
it
will
some,
but
also
in
other
cases,
are
places
where
maybe
Community
feedback
is
there's
just
there.
Just
isn't
a
lot
right.
If
we're.
If
we're
doing
there.
G
Law,
historically
on
the
issue,
they
may
not
have
been
a
lot
of
it
and
in
interior
renovation,
of
a
building
to
convert
it
from
market
rate
housing
to
affordable
housing
that,
in
some
cases
that
there
might
be
significant
Community
process
necessary
there
and
other
cases
there
may
not
be.
And
if
it's
in
that
category,
perhaps.
B
Well,
I
mean
I,
don't
think
I,
don't
think
most
communities
are
going
to
be
concerned
about
existing
buildings,
interior
Renovations
they're
going
to
be
concerned
about
as
250
units.
You
know
on
this.
We
want
to
hear
no
parking,
that
sort
of
thing
and
that
that's
that's
real,
so
I'd
be
concerned
with
what
the
process
is
going
to
look
like
if,
if,
if
Community
is
still
going
to
have
a
going
to
have
a
voice,
oh
here
we
go.
G
B
G
G
That's
the
work
we're
doing
right
now,
counselor.
So
what
the
the
the
data
analysis
we're
at
is
looking
at.
What
are
the
triggers
that
have
caused
the
need
for
variances
and
do
we
want
to
change
zoning
if
there?
If
we
do
want
to
change
zoning,
that
will
absolutely
include
a
community
process
we're
not
at
the
place
yet
where
we
have
a
definitive
answer
to
that,
because
we
need
to
look
at
every
single,
affordable
housing
project.
It's
been
permanent.
A
G
B
What
does
Staffing
look
like
for
you
guys
now
if
we're
going
to
now
focus
on
all
affordable?
It
kind
of
feels
like
because
to
get
over
to
Jessica's
comment
that
I
think
it
was
two
years
two
years
an
article
80
and
then
I
mean
I
have
good
projects
that
were
eight
years
before
there
was
a
shovel
on
the
ground
so
to
I'm
a
little
skeptical
of
I'm
a
little
skeptical
of.
How
are
we
going
to
do
this
without
just
pointing
at
a
project
and
saying
you
go?
B
Do
whatever
you
want
without
having
a
real
Community
process
and
things
like
that
and
I'm
and
I'm
for
building
I'm
for
building,
affordable
housing,
but
there's
also
this.
You
know
for
me
in
my
district,
the
way
this
plays
out
is
I
have
The
Roundhouse
hotel
in
my
district
I
have
the
Comfort
Inn,
which
10
years
ago,
we
need
hotel
rooms.
We
need
hotel
rooms,
you
know
in
Dorchester.
We
want
to
put
a
hotel
here,
a
hotel
here,
Hotel
here
now.
B
Gonna
I'm
gonna
move
on.
Can
you
talk
about
so
two
years
for
article
80.?
Any
particular.
Is
that
just
did
you
did
you?
Was
there
a
subsection?
Was
this
25
unit,
new
building,
50
unit,
new
buildings
or
everything
that
was
affordable
was
at
a
minimum
like?
So
what
do
you
quantify
that
statement
for
me
so.
E
So
I
the
analysis
that
that
we
did,
which
I
think
Devin
mentioned
as
well,
was
on
all
affordable
on
affordable
projects
that
were
subject
to
article
80
and
I,
based
on
some
of
the
things
I
just
heard,
you
say,
I
actually
made
a
note
that
I
think
would
be
helpful
for
all
of
us
to
think
about
the
project,
size
and
and
that
impact
so
I
I
I'm
glad
that.
B
Well,
I
mean
because
it's
there's
a
there's
going
to
be
a
model.
Is
it
a
25
unit
building?
Is
it
a
40
unit
building,
that's
going
to
be
the
most
efficient
or
whatever
to
to
to
to
do
and
and
if
we're
gonna
get
behind
it
with
city
land
and
City,
City,
Opera,
well,
city
state
fed,
oppa
dolls.
That's
where
I
think
we
should
be
looking.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
permit
this
size
building
in
now
you
now
we
know
what
we're
looking
now
you
point
denim
in
third:
go
ahead,
go
around!
E
No
I
I
will
say
from
what
I've
looked
at
there.
There
is
not
a
direct
correlation
between
how
many
units
are
in
a
project
and
how
long
it
takes.
Certainly
larger
projects
take
longer
in
in
general,
because
there's
there's
more
conversation
and
questions
talk
about,
but
I.
We
can
get
that
information
back
to
you,
but
I
can't
say
specifically
that
for
the
ones
that
take
the
longest,
it's
not
necessarily.
B
Because,
from
my
experience,
a
lot
of
projects
would
love
to
have
two
years
through
through
article
80
made
honestly.
You
know
I'll
turn
it
over
to
councilman
Council
block.
C
Great,
thank
you
so
much
Mr
chair
a
couple
of
things.
For
me,
one
is
just
to
underscore
related
to
what
Joel
was
talking
about
and
and
I.
Think
folks
know:
I
I
used
to
work
at
the
BHA
on
some
of
these,
like
BHA
owned,
rehab
type
projects,
and
it
does
just
strike
me
that
it's
it's
a
little
bit
crazy.
C
When
our
public
housing
authority
is,
you
know,
protecting
or
adding
units
in
the
deepest
affordability
category
that
everyone
wants
and
then
we're
putting
it
through
the
ringer
of
our
departmental
processes
and
I
know
we
used
to
always
go
back
and
forth
on.
Are
we
paying
all
these
fees
we
used
to?
You
know
it's
just
and
sort
of
at
some
point.
It's
like
you
know,
to
the
extent
that
these
processes
take
longer
and
cost
more
money,
we're
just
backfilling
that
with
City
and
then
state
and
federal
support
for
the
Housing
Authority.
C
So
it
does
just
feel
to
me.
I
I
recently
became
aware
that
our
I
hadn't
really
focused
on
it
before,
but
I
guess.
You
know
when
we
do
school
building
projects
in
the
city
of
Boston
they're
sort
of
exempt
from
the
ordinary
zoning
rules,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
you
know
Boston
Housing,
Authority
projects,
I
think
we
could
similarly
establish
some
kind
of
a
norm
around
hey
we're
doing
we're
doing
these
public
buildings
and
I
mean
I.
C
Think
that's
a
no-brainer
with
the
rehabs,
where
you're
literally
not
changing
the
shell
but
I
think
even
when
you
are
changing
the
shell
I
think
at
some
point,
prioritization
does
mean
saying:
let's
round
third
in
certain
types
of
cases
and
to
me
like
a
BHA
project
that
we're
pouring
money
into
is
a
pretty
obvious
no-brainer
on
that.
So
I
just
want
to
stress.
C
You
know
to
me:
that's
that's,
certainly
an
area
where
it
feels
like
we
could
expedite
a
lot
and
then
just
in
general,
as
Jessica
knows,
I
I
am
sort
of
thanks
to
president
Flynn
in
the
Council
seat
on
the
Neighborhood
Housing
Trust
and
I've
only
been
doing
that
for
a
little
less
than
a
year,
and
already
several
times,
we've
had
those
projects
that
she
mentioned,
where
folks
are
coming
back
to
us
needing
more
money,
more
Gap
filler
because
of
unexpected
delays
that
have
stretched
out
the
time
and
obviously
everyone
knows
with
construction
costs,
going
up,
there's
a
particular
premium
on
those
these
days.
C
C
I
mean
it
just
again
seems
like
something
that
we
should
really
try
to
get
away
from,
because
we
all
want
to
have
those
dollars
in
the
Housing
Trust
be
going
to
the
maximum
number
of
units
and
not
you
know
not
getting
increase
per
unit
because
of
burdens
that
we're
creating
I
wondered
if
you
guys
could
talk
a
little
bit.
C
I,
don't
know
if
you,
if
you
have
any
thoughts
on
this,
but
one
thing
I've
struggled
with,
because
I've
I've
been
a
little
jealous
of
Cambridge
and
Somerville
and
their
affordable
housing,
overlay
and
kind
of
the
idea
that
you
would
density
bonus
that
you
would
say
Hey.
You
know
if
this
is
an
affordable
building,
we're
gonna.
Let
people
go
a
little
taller,
we're
going
to
let
people
feel
a
little
more
of
the
lot,
but
every
time
my
office
has
tried
to
figure
it
out.
C
We
find
that
because,
because
everything
is
getting,
zoning
relief
anyways
today
in
the
sense
that
everything
has
to
go
to
zba
it's
hard
to
figure
out
where
you
put
that
point,
that's
like
enough
to
incentivize
and
then
the
other
thing
is-
and
this
is
to
counselor
Baker's
Point.
For
me,
it's
like
I
want
us
to
figure
out
how
we
build
affordable
housing
as
efficiently
as
possible,
but
I
don't
want
us
to
like
delay
the
construction
of
market
rate
housing
at
the
same
time.
C
A
C
So
you
know
trying
to
think
about
how
do
we
construct
a
policy
here
that
does
incentivize
affordable
development,
while
also
kind
of
just
in
general,
trying
to
make
sure
that
residential
development
can
go
anyways,
that's
a
little
bit
amusing,
but
that's
kind
of
that's
the
been
the
puzzle
for
my
mind
and
I'm
curious.
What
you
guys
are
thinking
about
it.
G
On
that,
on
that
second
point
and
going
back
to
some
of
counselor
Baker's
questions
around
staff,
trade-offs,
I
think
I
want
to
point
to
it
a
success
of
both
this
Council
and
then
and
this
the
city
in
the
past.
We
are
permitting
a
lot
of
affordable
housing
projects
right
compared
to
compared
to
other
cities
in
the
region
compared
to
other
peer
cities
nationally,
we
dedicate
a
lot
of
our
resources
to
affordable
housing
creation-
we're
all
here
today,
because
we
think
it's
not
enough.
G
We
want
to
do
more,
and
and
we,
but
we,
but
there
were
there-
was,
as
Jessica
mentioned,
over
a
thousand
units
of
affordable
housing
permitted
last
year
in
the
past
five
years,
I
think
it's
23
of
the
units
we
permitted
were
affordable
housing.
So
the
way
that
that
has
happened
in
the
past
is
that
the
same
mix
of
staff
are
that
are
doing.
The
affordable
projects
are
just
are
mixed
in
with
the
folks
doing
all
the
other
market
rate
projects
the
important
job,
creating
Economic
Development
projects
too.
G
By
creating
more
job
specificity
about
amongst
the
existing
staff,
we
can
provide
a
little
bit
more
of
a
streamlined
experience
for
affordable
housing
developers
and
because
that's
already
something
that
we're
doing
a
lot
of
it
doesn't
necessarily
come
at
the
expense
of
other
projects.
Right
because
we
we
we
need
to
be
doing
that
work
now,
as
we
add,
as
we
add,
significantly
more
affordable
housing
yeah.
G
A
little
bit
more
use
specific
and,
on
the
point
about
zoning,
absolutely
hear
you,
because
there
are
way
too
many
cases
going
to
CBA
and
that
under
mayor
Wu's
leadership
and
chief
Jemison,
we
do
want
to
have
a
move
to
a
blasting
Zone
code.
That
is
significantly
more
predictable
and
provides
more
accountability
to
Residents
around.
What's
going
to
get
built
in
their
neighborhoods,
that's
not
going
to
happen
overnight,
but
that
is.
That
is
a
major
challenge
with
the
concept
of
as
of
right,
affordable
housing.
What
do
we
mean
when
we
say
asset
right?
G
G
Yeah,
that's
I
mean
that's
a
it's
something
you
often
hear
in
there
are.
There
are
those
who
would
love
the
city
to
move
to
an
asset
rate,
affordable
housing,
but
I.
Think
that
that's
what
exactly
that's?
What
came
from
Summerfield
raised
their
policy
efforts
as
and
I
think
it's
important
that
we,
if
we
are
modeling
after
those
efforts
that
we
understand
that
what
that
actually
means
in
a
Boston
context.
B
Again,
sorry
again,
but
that
would
be
back
to
to
to
what
we
were
talking
about.
You
know
that
that
sort
of
building
size
shape
style
is
it
25
units
is
it?
You
know
this
is
what
you
can
do
affordable.
This
is
what
you
can
do
as
of
right
on
this.
This
and
this
city
city
land,
sort
of
marrying
those
two
things
where
okay,
we're
gonna
move
on
to
to
council
well
before
I.
B
Do
I
want
to
acknowledge
Council,
Coletta
and
Council
Fernandez
Anderson,
we're
gonna
just
continue
on
oh
I'm,
sorry
and
Council
hours
here
is:
is
here
also
we're
going
to
continue
with
questioning
and
when
it
comes
around
you
guys
will
opening
safe
and
and
question
Council
Braden.
D
Thank
you,
councilor
Baker,
I
I
want
to
pick
up
the
comment
by
country
Bach
that
everything
is
getting.
Zoning
relief
anyway,
is
a
real,
a
huge
frustration
for
us.
I
I,
don't
feel
that
we
are
leveraging
our
capacity
to
encourage
developers
to
build
more
affordability
and
and
and
we're
constantly
frustrated
with
the
IDP
unit
ratio
of
13.
D
It's
so
so
yesterday
we
we
need
to.
Is
there
any
timeline
for
when
and
I
know?
This
is
a
sort
of
it's
all
part
of
this
big
conversation
about
affordability.
When
are
we
expecting
to
see
the
IDP
policy
changed
and
and
also
the
the
I
think
there
was
some
conversation
about
linkage?
When
might
we
expect
that?
That's.
G
Something
we're
actively
working
on
with
our
colleagues
and
then
mayor's
office
housing
in
the
in
the
in
the
mayor's
office.
So
we
expect
to
have
announcements
on
that
soon,
but
I
think
here
you
absolutely
hear
your
frustration
and
I
want
to
also
point
to
the
fact
that,
again,
through
the
work
of
this
Council
and
then
citizens
in
Boston,
we
now
have
the
right
to
do
inclusionary
zoning
in
Boston.
For
the
last
past,
20
plus
years,
we've
had
to
well
we've.
Well,
we've
been
a
leader
and
and
actually
have
it.
G
We
were
one
of
the
first
communities
in
the
country
to
have
inclusionary
development
policy
was
all
done
because
of
variance
and
or
through
variance
whenever
a
development
was
seeking
a
variance,
we'd
say
in
exchange.
For
that
we
expect
you
to
comply
with
an
executive
order
on
affordable
housing.
We
now
have
the
ability
to
put
that
into
our
underlying
zoning
code
to
provide
much
more
predictability
and
assurances
that
if
a
project
is
not
seeking
a
variance,
it
will
still
provide
the
affordable
housing
our
city
needs.
D
Yeah
and-
and
you
know,
the
IDP,
the
the
the
policy
of
the
developers
come
in,
they
they're
building
those
nine
units
and
they
come
in
underneath
the
text
and
they're
not
they're,
getting
all
the
variances
they're
getting
permission
to
build
they're,
getting
all
the
all
the
variances
and
we're
and
they
study
and
the
community
is
not
getting
anything
out
of
that
deal
at
all.
D
The
other
question
was
the
land
audit
I'm
just
curious
I
know
we
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
publicly
owned
land
and
Austin
Brighton
to
develop,
but
in
terms
of
available
land
to
develop.
What?
What
are
we
looking
at?
What
were
there
any
findings
on
that
land
order.
G
I
I
will
happily
share
the
land
on
it
with
you
after
the
meeting.
Counselor
is
a
pretty
comprehensive
study,
but
one
of
the
things
we
took
away
from
it.
There
are
some
large
sites
that
exist
in
the
city
where
we
could
add
a
significant
amount
of
affordable
housing
and
provide
that
more
streamlined
approach.
That
counselor
Baker
was
talking
about
earlier
places
like
the
Austin
Street
parking
lots
in
in
Charlestown
that
are
directly
adjacent
to
a
t-stop.
The
water
and
sewer
parking
lots
in
the
lower
Roxbury
there,
the
natapan
Public
Health
Campus.
G
There
are
places
where
there
are
significant
teaching
opportunities
to
have
a
ad
housing
mix
that
aren't
on
public
land.
It
could
provide.
We
can
Target
Target
spending,
some
of
our
our
Arbor
dollars
and
create
equally
affordable
units
and,
and
also
you
know,
Community
amenities
as
well.
So
all
of
that
will
be
done
through
a
community
process
and
we're
launching
some
of
those.
Now
we
just
had
our
first
meeting
three
weeks
ago
on
the
Austin
Street
parking
lots
in
Charlestown
very.
D
I
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
thank
you
to
the
panelists
for
being
here
for
the
important
work
that
you're
doing
just
reading
over
some
of
the
notes
here
when
we
are
building
affordable
housing
and
if
this
plan
is
implemented,
we're
on
the
eve
of
Veterans
Day.
Are
we
also
making
a
significant
Outreach
to
work
with
our
homeless
veterans
community?
E
So
so,
specifically,
so
the
the
current
effort
around
the
executive
order
is
really
to
look
at
the
at
the
processes
that
it
takes
to
get
all
kinds
of
affordable
housing
developed,
so
so
the
homeless.
The
work
that
we
do
to
to
build
permanent
Supportive
Housing
for
homeless
veterans
is
certainly
sort
of
in
that
bucket.
We
are
not
given,
as
Devin
mentioned,
that
we
are
really
in
the
first
stages
of
data
analysis.
I
I
G
It's
a
great
question,
counselor
one
of
the
so
this
Council
and
has
already
passed
the
elimination
of
parking
minimums
for
affordable
housing.
That
doesn't
mean
that
a
development
can't
propose
parking
based
on
the
population
that
they're
serving
or
the
location
of
the
of
the
unit.
They
can't
exceed
the
parking
maximum,
but
they're,
not
regulatory
required
to
include
parking
and
I.
Think.
One
of
the
reasons
that
we
wanted
to
make.
G
I
I
mean
I
I
noticed
there
that
there
are,
there
is
support
for
bicycle
parking,
which
I
which
I
support,
but
when,
when
families
don't
have
the
ability
to
use
an
automobile
to
bring
their
children
to
an
after-school
program,
that's
a
concern
that
impacts
their
quality
of
life
and
do
you
know
who
they
they
focus
their
attention
on
when
that
takes
place.
The
Maya
and
the
district
City
councils,
not
necessarily
the
at-loud
city
council,
is
they'll.
I
They'll
call
me
up
and
they'll
say:
Council
Flynn
I'm,
trying
to
take
my
son
or
my
daughter
to
a
dance
recital
and-
and
there
is
no
parking,
because
this
recent
project
that
went
up
Limited
parking
for
for
for
residents.
So
the
calls
we
get
are
significant
and
it's
a
quality
of
life,
in
my
opinion,
for
a
lot
of
families
that
need
an
automobile
to
take
their
children
to
an
after-school
program,
but
also
to
take
to
use
the
car
to
get
to
work
or
to
visit
their
elderly
parents
somewhere.
I
What
do
we
say
to
those
people
and
how
are
we
going
to
help
them.
G
Again,
Council,
it's
a
great
point,
something
we
need
to
work
through
in
a
Project,
Specific
context
and
I.
Think
they're
I
mean
to
name
the
obvious
issue
of
something
else.
We
needed
to
work
on
together
is
other
other
Transportation
Alternatives,
so
that
it
is
equally
as
convenient
to
take
your
family
to
the
after
school
program,
on
on
public
transportation
or
whatever
other
modes
of
transportation
that
are
available
at
the
extent
that
that's
not
an
option
for
a
for
the
families
you
might
be
talking
about.
That's.
G
That
is
a
problem
too
right
and
we
need
to
as
we're
thinking
about
the
future.
Development
of
Boston
also
include
that
viewpoint,
but
the
Viewpoint
that
you're
advancing
is
absolutely
not
lost
in
us
an
important
part
of
what
you
know.
What
would
councilor
Baker
raised
earlier?
Whether
any
changes
to
regulation
would
be
done
without
without
feedback?
The
answer
is
no.
They
wouldn't.
There
absolutely
needs
to
be
a
debate
on
trade-offs
like
the
ones
you're
raising.
H
In
this
discussion-
oh
yes,
sorry
about
that.
Thank
you.
Mr
chair
council
president
and
just
jumping
back
to
your
earlier
question.
I'm
reminded
that
you
had
and
the
council
had
appropriate,
looked
at
some
a
capacity
study
for
veterans,
housing
in
South,
Boston
and
the
BHA
would
be
really
it's
a
little
bit
ancillary
to
this
discussion.
But
we're
really
happy
to
connect
with
your
office
to
discuss
how
that
effort,
which
the
council
provided
to
some
funding
for
can
build
on
this
process
that
moh
and
the
bpda.
I
I
And
when
things
aren't
working
well
in
in
neighborhoods,
the
calls
go
to
the
mayor
and
the
calls
go
to
the
district
city
council
and
we
can't
duck
those
calls
and
we
have
to
respond
and
we
have
to
let
residents
know
why
there
is
no
parking
in
their
neighborhood
to
take
their
children
to
a
particular
location,
so
difficult
conversations,
but
I
guess.
My
final
point
is
District.
City
councilors
should
be
involved
in
decision
decision
making,
as
as
it
relates
to
this
proposal.
Thank
you,
Mr
chill.
Thank.
B
You
Mr
President
Council
Plata.
You
have
the
floor.
A
J
I'm
ready,
I'm,
ready,
dude
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
got
it
right.
Okay,
thank
you!
Council
Lara,
hello,
everybody
good
morning,
I'm,
so
sorry
that
I'm
late.
J
Thank
you
to
the
sponsor
of
of
this
order
and
thank
you
to
Mayor
Wu
for
her
executive
order
as
well,
and
thank
you
all
to
your
to
all
of
you
just
for
your
work.
I
have
a
deep
respect
for
everybody
on
this
panel.
So
thank
you
so
much.
J
There's
there's
a
lot
there's
a
lot
that
I
would
love
to
ask
I'm
wondering
how
many
questions
I'm
going
to
get
for
this
round.
Just
so
I
can
prioritize
your
good
time.
Okay,
great
everybody
knows
in
my
district,
where
we're
building
and
growing
exponentially,
and
it
is
deeply
impacting
our
most
vulnerable
everybody's,
getting
very
antsy
to
figure
out.
You
know
when
some
of
this
is
going
to
be
implemented.
Just
because
displacement
rates
are
so
high.
I
know.
J
Everybody
knows
this
and
I
I
am
deeply
pleased
to
hear
about
the
the
five
steps
that
you
all
listed.
So
even
though
I
was
late,
I
was
trying
to
listen
in
and
but
apologies.
If
my
questioning
is
is
redundant,
I
am
happy
to
hear
about
the
reform
of
IDP.
We
desperately
need
it
ahead
of
Plan
East
Boston,
which
Devin
I
know
you
all
are
working
on.
This
is
the
effort
to
rezone
for
everybody.
J
This
is
the
effort
to
rezone
his
Boston,
because
our
zoning
is
archaic
and
right
now
we
are
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
incentivize
developers
to
build
smaller
but
having
more
affordability
and
so
having
this
IDP
threshold
lowered
is
going
to
be
really
really
important,
especially
if
we're
making
projects
that
are
as
of
right,
I'm
thinking
of
the
six
pack
that
was
proposed.
G
Yeah
absolutely
counselor
and
that's
critically
important
to
any
any
zoning
changes
we
make.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
leveraging
as
much
affordability
as
possible.
It's
important
that
then
from
the
private
Market
to
balance
that
with
feasibility
right
make
sure
that
the
projects
are
still
possible
to
to
happen,
but
in
in
East
Boston
in
particular,
I
think
it
is
it's
just,
but
it's
it's
such
a
visible
case
of
the
zoning
code,
not
meaning
enough
and.
A
G
Because
every
project
is
a
negotiation
and
pretty
much
you
know
it
most.
Our
team
has
great
stats
on
this.
I,
don't
have
it
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
the
the
majority
of
existing
buildings
in
East
Boston.
If
that
building
burned
down
it
couldn't
be
built
again
exactly
the
way
it
looks
without
a
zoning
variance
and
that's
a
problem
right
that.
A
G
G
It's
not
really
where
we
want
to
be
spending
our
resources.
We
want
to
be
able
to
study
zoning
code.
That
means
something
have
people
have
a
anticipation
of
what
that
means
for
the
future
of
their
community
and
be
able
to
predict
exactly
what
benefits
will
come
from
new
development,
particularly
in
the
form
of
affordable
housing
and
because
the
the
you
know
across
a
lot
of
Boston,
the
three
Decker
and
then
and
the
six-pack
typology
is
something
that
you
see
a
lot
of.
G
It's
important
that
our
affordable
housing
policies,
as
we
rethink
them,
touch
that
the
smaller
units
in
an
appropriate
and
feasible
way,
so
that,
in
that
that
gets
to
the
councilor
Green's
Point
earlier
about.
You
know,
there's
just
there's
that,
because
of
the
current
policy,
there's
an
incentive
to
build
right
under
the
threshold.
J
J
Thank
you
I'm,
happy
to
know
that
you
all
are
looking
at
that
and
I
think
you
were
talking
about
the
negotiations
that
happen
and,
in
my
conversations
with
individual
Builders,
they
say
as
they
should,
because
this
is
their.
This
is
their
work.
J
But
it's
not
meeting
our
standards
when
it
comes
to
resiliency
or
promoting
our
our
our
goals
when
it
comes
to
to
a
green
new
city
or
or
a
just
transition,
so
I'm
wondering
if
those
are
also
being
considered
and
ensuring
that
we're
looking
at
both
at
the
same
time,.
E
So,
from
the
perspective
of
the
mayor's
office
of
Housing,
and
particularly
one
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
in
this
order
is,
is
our
design
review
process
which,
at
the
mayor's
office
of
housing,
we
tie
really
closely
to
our
funding
process
right
because
we
we
are
we're
lending
to
these
projects
and
so
we're
important
stakeholders
in
the
process
and
we're
really
trying
to
prioritize
assisting
ability
and
resiliency,
and
also
we've
done
this
on
the
Zero
carbon
side,
for
new
production
and
our
in
conversations
with
colleagues
at
bpda
and
at
the
department
of
environment
on
the
resiliency
side,
about
really
trying
to
track
the
real
benchmarks
of
how
much
cost.
E
Does
that
really
add?
Because
a
lot
of
the
the
measures
that
we
take
either
for
Energy,
Efficiency
or
resiliency?
Are
they
they
sound,
really
fancy
right,
but
some
of
them
are
actually
quite
simple
or
things
that
you're
doing.
You
would
need
to
do
anyways
you
just
do
it
a
slightly
you
know.
Do
it
a
different
way,
so
we're
really
trying
to
prioritize
that,
and
also
just
want
to
put
in
another
sort
of
sideline
issue,
which
is
because
we
have
done
so.
We've
been
so
active
in
our
acquisition
opportunity
program
in
East.
E
Boston
I'm
really
excited
about
some
conversations
that
we
can
have
about
how
we're
deploying
arpa
dollars
towards
efficiency
and
resiliency
measures
and
how
we
can
particularly
look
at
at
some
of
the
work
we've
done
in
East,
Boston
and
bolstering
some
of
that.
So
so
it
is,
is
a
very
active
part
of
our
conversation
and
a
real
priority
for
all
of
us.
Thank
you.
J
Going
to
affordability,
we
all
hear
it
from
our
communities:
affordable,
isn't
actually
affordable
to
the
community
and
so
I
think.
One
thing
that
has
been
incredibly
successful
has
been
the
city
of
Boston
Voucher
Program
through
BHA,
and
so
one
thing
that
that
I
was
thinking
about
and
and
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
is
incentivizing
developers.
Because
again
in
my
individual
conversations,
I'm
asking
folks
have
you
talked
to
BHA
because
it's
guaranteed
money
for
them
and
it's
a
way
to
grow.
That
program.
F
That
one
yeah,
so
we
were
definitely
considering
how
to
match
vouchers
to
existing
units.
To
both
you
know,
increase
the
level
of
affordability,
increase,
more
affordable
units
as
we
do
we're
looking
at
IDP
and
linkage
and
other
studies
I
think
that's
definitely
on
the
table
and
because
we
know
there's
a
huge
need
for
the
deeply
affordable
units.
K
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
to
all
the
members
of
the
administration
for
being
here
today
and
to
councilor
Bach
for
continuing
to
move
this
work
forward
with
mayor
Woods
executive
order
last
month
to
speed
up
the
process
of
approving,
affordable
housing
in
the
city.
I
think
that
we
still
need
to
delve
deeper
when
it
comes
to
exploring
all
of
the
opportunities
that
we
have
for
zoning
relief
for
affordable
housing
in
the
city
of
Boston
I.
K
A
few
weeks
ago,
I
filed
a
hearing
order
to
explore
special
protection
zones,
particularly
around
Transit
Transit
oriented
special
protection
zones,
one
to
prevent
displacement,
but
I
think
that
there's
an
opportunity
here
when
we
talk
about
affordable
housing
relief,
how
are
we
incentivizing,
affordable
housing
in
transit
corridors
one?
So
that
would
be
my
question.
What
are
we
doing
right
now?
Because
if,
if
we
are
going
to
look
into
a
zoning
amendment
that
creates
these
special
protection
zones
and
Transit
corridors,
what
can
be
included
in
it?
K
Are
there
things
that
you're,
considering
already
in
terms
of
protecting
neighbors
who
live
in
transit
corridors
against
displacement,
but
also
incentivizing,
affordable
housing
on
those
corridors?
And
secondly,
if
if
we're
looking,
if
you're
reviewing
and
looking
at
the
zoning
code,
specifically
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
like
to
focus
on
that
I've
continued
to
have
internal
conversations
and
hope
to
move
forward
on
the
council.
Is
this
idea
of
creating
zoning
overlays
that
don't
just
incentivize,
affordable
housing
but
incentivize,
affordable
housing
and
climate
resilient
locations?
G
It's
really
important
that
we
as
we're
looking
at
increasing
down
States
and
in
appropriate
locations
next
to
transit
in
ways
that
not
only
protect
existing
communities
from
displacement
pressures
but
all,
but
actually
provide
opportunities
for
a
greater
and
deeper
level
of
affordable
housing
creation
that
you
know,
housing
units
that
exist
off
the
private
market
and
they
are
there
for
in
here,
apparently
immune
to
Market
driven
displacement
measures.
G
At
the
same
time,
it's
incredibly
important,
as
we
think
about
the
future
of
our
city,
that
we're
that
climate
change
and
climate
resilience
is
integrated
into
everything
we
do,
and
that
needs
to
be
a
core
part
of
everything
that
bpda
does
so
the
mayor's
charged
us
with
revamping
it
and
reimagining
the
Planning
Development
agency.
In
a
way
that
puts
affordability,
equity
and
resilience
at
the
center
of
everything
we
do
and
that
I
think
it's
the
heart
of
your
comment.
There.
K
K
G
There
is
a
coastal
flood
resilience
overlay
in
the
existing
zoning
code.
So
it's
quite
easy.
You
know
we
can
be
happy
to
produce
this
map
for
you.
It
would
be
helpful
yes
to
to
give
you
the
map
of
the
largest
vegan
public
owned
sites
with
the
coastal
flood
resilience
overlay,
and
you
can,
you
can
see
it
and
some
of
them
we
were
just
talking
about
the
Boston
Water
and
Sewer
parking
lots
of
the
staff
group.
G
Yesterday,
half
of
those
half
of
that
site
is
within
the
coastal
flood
resilience
overlay,
so
that
absolutely
will
need
to
be
part
of
the
the
any
future
development
at
that
location.
If
we're,
if
we
were
to
explore
it
so
I
think
it's
a
short
answer.
Yes,
a
longer
answer,
it's
all
about
the
the
specific
Parcels
is.
G
Currently
no
I
know
article
37
in
the
zoning
code
is
all
about
Green
Building
standards
and
and
helping
Advance
a
building
typologies
that
are
more
efficient
and
more
Greener
and
and
we're
actively
working
on
improving
that
we're
exploring
Net
Zero
carbon
zoning
in
our
zoning
codes.
So
there's
there's
a
lot
more.
That
can
be
done
in
that
space
and
again
I'm
excited
to
work
with
you
on
it.
K
Thank
you
I'm,
mostly
asking
for
the
record,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
sitting
in
can
can
hear
about
this
so
again
in
the
terms
of
zoning.
I
actually
want
to
go
back
to
something
that
President
Flynn
said
about
the
veterans
housing
specifically
more
so
be
because
to
tie
it
into
the
inclusionary
development
policy.
So
right
now
in
the
lottery
applications,
we
do
ask
people
whether
or
not
they
are
veterans,
and
we
ask
people
also
if
they
are
city
of
Boston
residents.
E
Depends
on
the
on
the
specific
marketing
plan
and
population
of
of
that
of
the
project
that
that
that
the
lottery
is
for
so.
K
E
So
so,
and
and
I
I
want
to
check
for
you
to
make
sure
that,
but
but
I'm
pretty
confident
in
saying
that,
for
like
the
pride
as
an
example,
would
have
a
Boston
residency
preference
and
it's
an
age-restricted
property.
So
there's
a
preference
if
you're,
if
you're
in
the
right
age
group
but
I
I,
do
not
believe
in
that
building.
There
are
other
special
population
preferences
I'm.
Looking
at
Dan,
no.
K
I
know
he's
looking
at
marketing.
I
know
that
they
don't
have
any
special
population
preferences
that
it's
more
like
an
lgbtq
friendly
building,
so
I
understand
that
there's
not
any
I'm.
More
so
asking
with
the
inclusionary
development
units
is
their
preference
that
goes
across
all
projects
like
the
Boston
resident
Providence
that
exists
so
yeah
yeah.
F
K
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
that
is
incredibly
helpful.
K
So,
with
all
of
the
parcels
that
we're
looking
at
and
the
projects
that
that
we
have
are
we,
how
are
we
collaborating
with
land
trust,
cdc's
and
nonprofit
developers
to
develop?
You
know
again,
I'm
going
back
to
the
I'm
going
back
to
the
land
audit,
so
tell
me
a
little
more
what
your
thinking
is.
There.
E
Yeah
so
sorry,
you
said
land
trusts.
K
We're
I'm:
this
is
I'm
having
a
specific
issue
in
my
district,
where
we
have,
we
have
a
developer
who's,
a
bad
actor
just
had
a
landmark,
very,
very
close
to
being
landmarked
home.
E
So,
similarly,
to
to
one
of
the
previous,
oh
to
I,
think
the
question
about
veterans
right,
we're
not
in
in
terms
of
the
work
of
the
executive
order
around
permitting
we're
not
talking
about
different
potential
developers
in
a
different
way
right,
because
it's
mostly
about
city
regulatory
processes
but
in
terms
of
programs-
and
specifically,
you
know
some
of
the
things
we're
trying
to
build
or
acquire
we
in
the
mayor's
office
of
housing
work
really
closely
with
with
those
types
of
developers
and
and
players.
E
We
we
do
a
lot
of
work
with
Community
Development
corporations
and
and
frequently
we'll
be
in
conversations
with
them
about
special
events
that
have
happened
in
their
service
area
or
or
special
opportunities.
So
we
and-
and
you
know,
we
we
work
with
people
that
that
bring
strong
projects
to
us.
So
so,
in
a
lot
of
conversations
and
and
I'll
say
on
the
land
audit
side,
there's
sort
of
two
conversations
that
are
coming
out
of
the
arpa
funding
stream
and
one
is
about
the
the
large
Parcels
that
that
Devin's
been
talking
about.
E
And
then
the
mayor's
office
of
housing
is
also
very
focused
on
the
small
Parcels,
both
in
our
inventory
and
and
in
the
inventory
of
bpda
and
other
partner
agencies
that
are
good
for
smaller
homeownership
development
and
I.
Think
that's
I
know,
that's
also
an
opportunity
that
particularly
lantros
are
thinking
about.
K
I
have
one
last
question,
because
I
know
that
I'm
coming
up
on
my
time.
Thank
you
chair
for
being
so
gracious
with
me,
and
this
is
going
to
be
specific
to
to
my
district.
One
of
the
things
in
district
6,
specifically
in
West
Roxbury,
is
that
we
have
less
than
one
percent
of
all
the
affordable
housing
in
the
city.
K
So
one
of
the
issues,
the
reason
why
that
is
an
issue
for
me
in
particular
Is
that
West
Roxbury
also
has
the
highest
concentration
of
seniors
in
the
entire
city,
and
what
we
found
is
that
in
a
very
residential
neighborhood,
where
people
have
been
living
for
many
generations,
sometimes
people's
grandparents
people's
parents
want
to
downsize.
They
want
to
pass
on
the
house
to
their
children
and
they
want
to
be
able
to
find
affordable
housing
in
their
neighborhood.
So
they
can
stay
nearby.
K
Now,
if
you
have
less
than
one
percent
of
all
of
the
affordable
housing
in
the
city
in
your
neighborhood,
then
we're
rubbing
up
against
the
people
who
live
in
that
neighborhood.
Who
grew
up
in
that
neighborhood,
seniors
and
retirees
who
might
be
living
on
Social
Security
not
being
able
to
find
smaller
homes
so
that
they
can
stay
close
to
their
children
close
to
their
grandchildren.
And
so
can
you
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
what
are
some
of
the
zoning
challenges
in
West
Roxbury,
specifically
to
build
higher
density
and
more
affordable.
G
Housing
and
what
can
we
do
about
it?
Excellent
question
and
I
think
something
that
we
would
love
to
work
with
with
you
in
the
West
Roxbury
Community
on
addressing
I
think
we
want
to
make
sure
that
there
are
affordable
housing
opportunities
spread
across
all
of
Boston's
neighborhoods.
That's
a
critically
important
to
the
administration.
We
find
every
opportunity
to
increase
the
proportion
and
number
of
units
available.
G
I
think
this
goes
back
to
your
question
about
I.
Guess
the
special
production,
Zone
Transit
oriented
Development
question
that
you
know
there
is
West
Roxbury
compared
to
some
other
neighbors,
the
city
of
a
little
less
Transit
accessible.
But
there
are
there.
You
know
there
is
there:
is
the
commuter
rail
there
there
so
it
does
qualify
as
an
as
a
Transit
oriented
neighborhood,
so
we'd
love
to
work
with
the
community
on
and
creating
incentives
for,
affordable
housing
creation.
G
G
E
I
do
just
and
I
just
want
to
add
I'd
love
to
be
a
part
of
that
conversation
about
zoning
tools
on
the
funding
side
in
so
we
are.
Moh
is
currently
in
the
process
of
reviewing
proposals
for
our
annual
requests
for
proposals
for
for
new
and
new,
affordable
housing
and
preservation,
affordable
housing
projects,
and
we
do
give
a
priority
to
projects
that
are
in
neighborhoods
that
are
below
the
city-wide
average
for
income
restricted
housing.
E
In
addition,
The
Neighborhood
Housing
Trust,
which
councilor
back,
represents
the
Council
on,
and
the
community
preservation
committee
are
really
really
conscious
in
their
own
decision
making
about
trying
to
spread
resources
into
neighborhoods
in
the
city
that
are
not
typically
bringing
projects
forward
or
are
below
that
city-wide
average.
So
that
doesn't
solve
the
problem
of
us
needing
a
project
but
I,
but
we
are
trying
to
incentivize
projects
to
come
forward
in
in
places
that
are
underserved
like
like
West
Roxbury.
So
so
we
we
try
to
do
a
little
bit
where
we
can
I.
F
And
councilor,
just
to
add
on
to
your
earlier
question
about
Trent
displacement
on
Transit
quarters.
Thanks
to
the
council,
we
do
have
20
million
dollars
of
arpa
funds
in
our
acquisition
opportunity
program
that
specifically
focused
on
Acquisitions
along
Transit
corridors
and
where
new
infrastructure
is
happening
where
there
might
be
added
displacement
pressures
and
so
we're
just
getting
that
rolling.
But
we're
kind
of
actively
trying
to
think
around
Blue,
Hill,
Ave,
Corridor
and
other
corridors
where
we
can
make
Acquisitions.
L
Thank
you
chair
good
morning.
Everyone
I
am
so.
My
question
is
obviously
I.
I
want
to
focus
and
I
just
want
to
bring
it
very
low
to
the
ground
so
that
we
can
break
this
down.
I
want
to
understand
what
you
think,
obviously,
of
Roxbury
situation
past
and
present
in
terms
of
how
you
acquired
all
of
this
land
and
where
we
are
today
in
terms
of
the
54
of
affordable,
rentals
already
existing
in
Roxbury
as
part
of
the
inventory
of
the
80
percent
of
all
rentals
in
Roxbury
I.
L
Think
it's
about
80
to
85
percent
I.
Don't
have
the
exact
number
on
me
and
then
I
want
to
compare
that
to
the
average
of
income
which
I
think
is
about
35
000
a
year
for
people
in
Roxbury.
Now
this
happened
in
Beacon
Hill,
remember:
Beacon
Hill
in
the
1800s.
When
black
people
lived
there
and
they
were
I
mean
it
was
it
was.
It
was
filthy
people
didn't
even
have
places
to
sleep,
they
weren't
on
the
streets
and
then
eventually
they
land
banked
right
and
then
they
drove
them
out.
L
They
pushed
them
into
South
End
and
when
they
were
pushed
into
south
end,
then
the
land
started
getting
repaired
and
Rich
whites
would
come
in
and
start
building
up
and
it
became
more
prominent
and
affluent
and
then,
when
they
went
into
South
End,
they
did
the
same
thing.
They
filled
it
up
with
crime,
because
that's
how
our
criminal
justice
system
has
to
happen.
We
have
to
have
crime,
we
have
to
have
no
jobs
and
no
Workforce.
L
We
can't
have
proper,
affordable
housing
or
home
ownership
to
build
that
to
build
a
to
build
wealth,
so
they
then
push
them
out
again
into
lower
Roxbury
and
eventually
they
pushed
him
out
to
Roxbury
and
now
in
Roxbury
they're,
pushing
us
out
again
and
so
with
all
the
affordable
rental.
My
question
to
you
is
in
consideration
to
the
80
percent,
affordable
rental
in
one
neighborhood,
54
percent
of
that
is
actually
affordable,
80
rental
54,
affordable.
L
Then
you
have
us
sharing
more
than
half
of
all
low
threshold
housing,
more
than
half
of
recidivism
or
returning
citizen
or
halfway
homes.
We
have
more
services,
more
non-profits,
more
lower
income
of
anything
in
Boston,
but
we
also
have
land
land
that
was
acquired
and
you'll.
Give
me
clarification
as
to
how,
and
so
the
economy
right
in
Roxbury
does
not
Thrive.
We
can't
flip
the
black
doll
or
any
dollar.
L
Our
Rock
Rocksberry
master
plan
then
said
we'll
build
out,
we'll
create
business
districts
that
will
allow
some
economic
Mobility
increase
traffic
in
these
business
corridors
and
we'll
build
affordable
housing,
and
everyone
is
like.
We
need
that.
We
need
that.
We
want
that.
We
want
affordable
housing,
but
what
the
community
is
asking
for.
L
Specifically,
people
in
Roxbury
and
I
grew
up
in
Roxbury,
so
I
know
this
I
grew
up
with
the
shootings
and
the
violence
and
the
drugs,
and
so
we
say
we
want
affordable
home
ownership,
give
us
a
chance
to
own
a
home,
so
we
can
actually
invest
in
our
community,
so
we
can
rid
of
the
crime,
because
we
know
that
when
there's
no
poverty,
there's
no
crime
and
so
I
filed
a
moratorium
and
I
guess
what
I
want
to
understand
is
how
is
speeding
up
this
process?
Considering
you
have
a
lot
of
land
in
Roxbury.
A
L
Is
your
plan
to
increase,
affordable
home
ownership,
and
then
please
tell
me
what
is
Affordable,
considering
35
000
a
year
average
and
then
in
comparison
to
the
other
neighborhoods?
L
How
are
we
being
fair
or
racially
equitable
when
we
bypass,
let's
say
and
I'm
and
I'm
for
it
I
want
more
affordable,
rentals
I
want
lots
of
it.
I
want
us
to
build
big
skyrises,
in
fact,
I
think
a
low
threshold
housing
like
that
Sky
Rise
in
that
we're
building
here
in
downtown
I,
think
we
could
do
that
here
in
downtown
I
think
we
should
go
up,
but
tell
me
what
is
the
plan?
G
Thank
you,
councilor.
That's
a
well
first
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
sending
the
conversation
on
systemic
racism
and
historic
inequalities,
because
I
think
that's
important
that
we
start
the
conversation
there
and
particularly
in
Roxbury
where
there
is
so
much
public
land.
So
so
thank
you
for
that.
It's
a
very
there's.
That
was
a
very
big
question.
So
there's
I
think
we
start
with
parts
of
it.
We
can
jump
into
a.
G
G
Job
Ambassador
I
think
maybe
one
of
the
most
important
things
to
say
is
that
it's
real.
That
Community
process
is
incredibly
important
in
listening
to
community
and
Community
priorities
and
incorporating
them
into
our
regulatory
decisions
and
use
of
public
resources
is
what
what
we
need
to
be
doing.
What
we
need
to
be
doing
more
of
I.
Think
in
some
cases
we've
done
a
good
job
of
that
in
recent
history.
G
In
in
Roxbury,
we've
had
the
Roxbury
strategic
master
plan
oversight
committee
is
in
community
made
up
of
of
representatives
from
your
District
that
guide
all
public
Land
Development
and
we
did
starting
in
2017
now.
What
are
we
in
our
fifth
year
of
community
process
on
establishing
a
common
framework
for
community-led
development,
community-led
decision
making
on
public
Land
Development
and
there
there
are.
G
There
are
trade-offs
there
and
one
thing
we've
heard
very
clearly
from
community
members
when
it
comes
to
developing
a
public
lands
that
they
want
job,
creating
Economic
Development
to
create
economic
Mobility
for
Roxbury
residents.
So
that
absolutely
needs
to
be
part
of
our
both
public
Land
Development
and
private
Land
Development
strategies,
which
Workforce
training
programs
and
helping
people
participate
in
the
growth
of
Boston's
Academy
at
at
the
same
time,
public
land
resources
are
finite,
and
one
of
the
things
we
heard
also
through
the
recent
processes,
particularly
in
Nubian
square,
is
that
we
want
to
that.
G
G
Well,
exactly
and
and
that
or
the
significant
preference
for
home
ownership,
and
so
in
some
cases,
so
one
thing
we've
done
is
when
we're
developing
redeveloping
public
land
and
I
didn't
answer
your
question
about
how
we
came
to
own.
It
reminded
me
to
come
back
to
that,
but
then,
when
we
were
redeveloping
public
land
working
with
the
communities
of
the
community,
members
get
to
actually
write
the
requirement
s
right
and
work
work
with
us.
G
So
one
thing
we
rode
into
recent
dispositions
of
public
land
or
in
some
cases,
requirements
for
affordable
home
ownership
units
or
at
least
strong
preferences,
and
you
recently
are
moving
toward
wrapping
up
the
disposition
process
and
moving
toward
the
development
of
P3,
which
is
the
largest
public
land
vacant
site
in
in
Boston,
and
that
both
proposals
there
include
substantial
commitments
to
Affordable,
homeownership
and
new
construction
of
of
homeowner
ownership
units
with
I
think
some
creative
strategies
for
wealth
creation
over
time,
which
is
something
we've
also
heard,
is
really
important
for
Roxbury
residents.
G
I
on
the
moratorium
topic.
I
think
one
thing
that
both
mayor,
the
mayor
and
chief
Johnson
have
said
to
us
is
it's:
it's
really
important
that
we
move
forward
and
we've
and
that
we
use
the
resources
we
have
to
help
the
people
who
are
in
need
now
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we're
here
at
this
Council
hearing
this
morning
to
talk
about
how
we
can
move
things
quickly
into
into
construction
to
deliver
real
value
before
bostonians
or
Roxbury
residents
in
your
District.
G
L
You
said
all
the
right
things
I
just
I
would
like
for
you
to
define
it.
I
I
think
that
when
you
say
things
like,
we
should
repair
the
harm
when
you
say
things
like
yes,
affordable,
homeownership
or
at
least
a
strong
priority
on
that
a
preference,
then
I
want
to
know
exactly
what
is
the
percentage
of
that
then
I
want
to
know
what
is
Affordable
I
want
to
understand.
If
you
are
going
to
speed
something
up,
then
how
will
you
make
it
better
if
the
community
is
already
saying
that
you're
not
listening?
L
This
is
a
board
member,
and
so
when
you
have
that
level
of
interaction
where
no
one
is
listening,
because
the
city
knows
better
and
the
powers
that
be,
they
know
better.
What
black
people
need
than
black
when
black
people
themselves
know
what
they
need
right
for
themselves,
and
so
they
continue
to
perpetuate
these
levels
of
blanket
policies
that
does
not
actually
resolve
specific
situations
or
issues
as
to
how
it
impacts
black
people
in
Roxbury,
or
black
and
brown
people
in
Roxbury
or
poor
white
people
in
Roxbury.
L
So
I
really
want
us
to
just
say:
Ami
doesn't
work
whatever
am
I
calculation,
we're
using
at
9
C
and
that's
on
a
federal
level
and
I
want
to
talk
about
how
we're
working
on
that,
but
35,
30,
000
average
income
means
that
no
matter
how
deeply
affordable
you
call
it.
It's
not
reaching
the
people
in
Roxbury.
So
when
you
build
people
outside
of
Roxbury
are
going
to
come
and
rent
in
Roxbury
displacing
further
displacing
people
in
Roxbury.
We
lost
one-third
black
people
last
year
and
we
continue
to
lose
it.
L
We
continue
to
drive
people
out,
but
then
we
say
beautiful
words
about
equity
and
affordable
and
it's
not
affordable.
It
doesn't
resolve
the
issues
in
Roxbury.
You
have
land
in
Roxbury,
mostly
acquired,
but
with
harm
taken
by
people.
Now
people
are
saying
that
belongs
to
us
fix.
It
include
us
and
and
build
that
quality
of
life
allow
us
Workforce
or
careers,
or
ways
of
closing
the
wealth
Gap.
What
you're,
proposing
or
what
you've
been
doing
so
far
and
I
know
not
you
specifically
Devin,
but
what
has
been
happening
so
far
is
not
addressing
the
issue.
L
It's
the
opposite
of
what
you're
doing
in
West,
Roxbury
or
other
other
affluent
areas.
I
want.
I
want,
affordable
housing
in
Fenway,
I
want
it
in
Beacon,
Hill
I
want
it
in
downtown
right.
I
want
a
lot
of
it.
Let's
build
a
thousand,
let's
build
all
of
it,
but
not,
but
Roxbury
deserves
just
you
know:
Green
spaces.
We
want
to
breathe
air,
we
die
30
years
sooner
than
Back
Bay.
So
how
are
we
working
on
that?
Yeah
I?
L
G
Yeah
great
point:
it
sounds
like
you
want
a
very
data
driven
answer
which
I'm
happy
to
provide
and
we
can
provide
more
backup,
but
I
think
it
is
imperative
that
we
are
producing
affordable
housing
in
all
neighborhoods
in
Boston.
G
It's
important
that
Roxbury
residents
help
help
us
advocate
for
affordable
housing,
Creation
in
West,
Roxbury
or
Charlestown,
or
in
other
places
where
it
is
needed
and
and
a
I
think
on
behalf
of
the
dpda,
totally
understand
and
want
to
convey
the
fairness
message
of
what
you're
and
Equity
message
of
what
you're
conveying
in
terms
of
actual
what
does
affordability
mean?
Well
there
there
is
a
precise
definition
of
that
driven
by
Amis,
which
I
think
you
know
and
happy
to
produce
that
for
the
record
after
the
meeting.
G
I
think
one
thing
that
maybe
we
could
work
together
on
that
might
be
helpful,
is
separating
out
neighborhood
great
high-level
Ami
definitions
like
the
average
income
in
Roxbury
and
then
the
average
income
of
Roxbury
Roxbury
residents
that
are
most
at
risk
for
displacement
pressures,
because
if
you
live
in
a
BHA
unit
or
if
you
live
in
a
affordable
housing
unit
and
Roxbury
does
have
a
disproportionate
share
as
we're
pointing
out
of
affordable
housing.
G
That,
though,
by
definition,
the
people
living
in
those
units
have
lower
incomes,
the
most
at
risk
resident
in
Roxbury
is
the
resin
that
lives
in
a
market
rate
unit
and
is
a
susceptible
to
their
landlord.
Raising
the
rent
substantially
next
year
and
and
that
resonant
what
whether
they
higher
income
or
lower
income
than
the
resident
in
the
affordable
housing
unit
is
the
resident
that
I
think
as
a
city
need
to
be
most
focused
on
trying
to
provide
opportunities
for
whether
that's
to
stay
in
their
housing
unit
or
to
move
somewhere.
L
G
We
would
love
to
there's
I
think
you
may
know
this
as
well.
There
are
fair
housing
rules
that
right
about
preventing
concentrations
of
poverty
and
segregation
that
make
it
difficult
for
us
to
implement
something
that
I
think
we
all
see
as
a
displacement
prevention
measure,
but
federal
policy
makes
that
very
difficult.
L
G
I
I
think
there
are
tools
that
we
can
put
well
for
starters,
that
I
I
think
it's
important,
that
we
use
public
land
for
open
space,
Community,
Gardens
and
non-housing
uses
too,
and
that
is
a
priority
in
in
Roxbury
as
in
other
places.
But
we
need.
We
need
affordable
housing,
New,
York
City.
We
need
marketing
housing
in
our
city
and
we
need
subsidy
tools
that
help
people
in
Boston
purchase
their
first
home
and
I
know.
The
team
from
England
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
E
So
I
I
want
I'm
thinking
that
one
thing
that
would
be
helpful
to
continue
this
conversation
would
be
for
us
to
to
put
together
our
pipeline
of
affordable
homeownership
projects,
many
of
which
are
on
some
of
the
the
parcels
that
that
are
publicly
owned
land
that
are
that
are
in
our
pipeline.
E
For
those
affordable
homeownership,
so
the
majority
of
those
Amis
are
and
and
I
want
to
get
you
the
exact
numbers,
but
the
majority
of
those
homeownership
units
are
set
for
buyers
either
at
100
of
area,
median
income
or
80
percent
of
area
median
income
I
couldn't
afford
it.
So
I.
L
G
But
that's
not
that's
one
tool
in
the
toolbox.
I
hear
you
we
can.
We
can
work
together
to
find
ways
to
bring
down
the
Ami
levels
for
homeownership
units.
G
L
People
that
doesn't
qualify
people,
though,
that
that
just
helps
with
deposits
that
doesn't
actually
make
you
your
Ami
go
up.
This
isn't
qualified
through
the
banks.
Does
it.
L
L
The
home,
you
still
wouldn't
qualify
like
if
you're,
if
your
Ami
is
still
lower
than
that
it
does.
You'll
still
have
a
problem.
Even
if
you
are
some
somehow
I
I
understand
what
you're
saying
some
somehow
subsidizing
or
whatever
like
it,
still
puts
you
in
a
precarious
situation
to
buy
a
home
that
that
is
not
for
Roxbury.
E
So
and
and
I
think
this
I
mean
I
I
think
this
is
a
conversation
that
we
that
we
really
need
to
have.
I
I
will
say
that
that
I,
just
I,
do
want
to
be
clear
that
the
the
Ami
levels
it
doesn't
mean
you
can
afford
it,
but
it's
a
it's
an
upper
ceiling
right.
You
don't
have
to
be
a
hundred
at
a
hundred
percent
of
Ami
exactly
to
to
buy.
You
have
to
be
at
100
or
below.
L
I'm,
giving
you
a
comparison
right,
if
I'm
just
below
right
below
80,
then
what
about
everybody
else,
I'm
showing
you
that
the
majority
of
people
can't
do
it
I'm,
showing
you
that
that's
not
for
Roxbury
I'm
telling
you
that
that's
not
for
Roxbury
I
know
that
this
is
a
conversation,
I'm
I'm,
being
very
raw
with
you,
so
you
can
really
feel
it
and
understand
that
this
is
a
conversation.
This
is
real
you're.
L
Just
it's
displacing
people
and
your
policies
and
your
blanket
policies
does
not
work
and
it's
it's
hurting
people,
and
this
is
why
we
have
continuous
poverty
and
issues
in
Black
communities.
This
is
why
we
continue
to
have
gun
violence.
This
is
why
people
come
in
here
and
cry
over
their
friends
getting
killed.
It's
a
serious
problem.
Your
housing
policies
are
blanket
policies.
It
does
not
work
for
poor
people
in
Roxbury.
You
have
a
lot
of
land
there
and
you're
saying
you're
going
to
continue
to
build
it.
G
H
G
L
Oh
no
I
don't
want
to
do
nothing.
I,
don't
want
to
do
nothing.
I
want
I,
don't
want
to
do
nothing
Mr
chair!
Thank
you.
So
much
I
don't
want
to
do
nothing.
I
want
to
be
very
clear.
I
want
a
lot
of
affordable
housing
everywhere,
because
I
know
that
the
two
sides
can
be
conflated:
I'm,
talking
about
building
quality,
sort
of
stress,
decompressors
in
Roxbury
I'm,
talking
about
those
Urban
farmings
and
jazz
clubs,
and
different
Arts
and
Cultural
spaces.
I'm
not
talking
about
doing
nothing.
L
Let's
I
want
to
be
very
clear
and
I
think
we're
on
the
same
page
and
I.
Think
you
guys
want
to
do
the
right
thing,
I'm
saying
that
it's
very
difficult
and
we
have
to
really
Force
the
city
to
spend
more
money
to
invest
in
ways
that
we
actually
address
the
most
vulnerable
people
and
at
in
present
time
what
you're
offering
does
not
address
the
issues
of
Roxbury.
L
B
So
I'm
going
to
give
everyone
two
minutes
if
if
they
want-
and
it
will
be
a
two
minutes
that
I'm
going
to
time
so
the
first
question
was:
how
did
you
get
the
land?
You
said
urban
renewal,
that's
kind
of
a
blanket
statement,
we're
talking
95
is
that,
where
most
of
when
the,
when
I-95
was
in
the
discussion,
is
that
when
the
urban
renewal
happened
and
most
of
the
land
was
whatever
happened
with
it,
you.
G
B
Okay,
just
wanted
to
just
wanted
to
just
wanted
to
tighten
that
up
there
and-
and
so
my
opinion
here
is
I.
Think
if
we
want
to
act
quickly,
we
could
follow
the
nhi
model,
which
would
be
back
to
the
buildings,
whether
at
25
40
or
50.
Let's
identify
10,
Parcels
of
land
and
and
and
and
and
design
what
we
want
build
there
and
then
go
to
a
developer
and
say
build
this.
It's
going
to
cost
30
million
bucks
we'll
give
you
10
15
towards
it,
you
you
would
have
to
front
the
rest
of
it.
B
B
C
Right
two
things:
one
is
just
quickly
to
say,
because
I
think
you
know
to
counselor
Anderson's
point
the
you
know
Ami
today,
100
is
for
a
two-family
household
at
112
000
at
80.
It's
at
89,
000.,
I.
Think
that
you
know
the
reality,
as
we
all
know,
is
that
if
we
push
too
much
low
below
that
from
a
homeownership
perspective,
we
can't
get
folks
to
lend
to
our
borrowers
and
I.
Think
that
raises
the
point
of
why
and
I
know,
counselor
Lara
shares
my
enthusiasm
for
co-ops
I.
C
Is
that
band
where
folks
folks
want
to
be
building
Equity,
but
they
make
too
little
to
get
a
homeownership
loan,
even
if
we
substantially
try
to
push
those
limits
down,
but
at
the
same
time
want
to
be
building
that
equity
and
not
just
stuck
in
rentals,
so
I
just
want
to
stress
for
that
like
middle
space,
I
think
we
really
do
need
to
be
and
as
something
Jessica
and
I've
talked
a
lot
about,
we
have
to
keep
supporting
Cooperative
models.
C
The
quick
run
of
things
I
wanted
to
say
and
ISD
is
in
your
group
right.
They
aren't
here
today
but
they're
in
the
group.
Okay,
just
some
things
that
I've
heard
colleagues
say
today
that
just
I
hope
that
you
guys
are
going
to
be
looking
into
one
thing
related
to
counselor
Baker's
point
about
this
2540
unit
type
thing
I
mean
it
would
be
great
to
think
about.
C
Is
there
a
way
that
we
can
have
kind
of
almost
like
a
plan
book
and
I
know
that
you
have
that
in
some
ways
for
the
Green
Building
Jessica,
but
to
the
point
about
like
that
balance
between
Community
review,
like
I,
would
love
if
we,
if
we
somehow
figured
out
how
to
say,
hey
in
a
bunch
of
these
zones,
we're
going
to
let
people
who
build
affordable
projects
go
above
the
far
and
height,
but
they're
going
to
be
building
from
this
kind
of
approved
set
where
we've
looked
at
them
they're
attractive
like
they
fit
the
fabric,
you
know
just
I'm,
just
thinking
through.
C
Is
there
a
way
that
you
could?
We
could
have
something
like
that
and
that's
probably
a
longer
process,
but
just
flagging
that
I
think
plan
books
and
kind
of
things
that
people
can
wrap
their
arms
around
and
then
like.
You
can
use
it
like
a
cookie
cutter
in
a
good
way
way.
I
think
is
really
valuable.
Would
love
to
see
us
shift
more
projects
that
are
affordable,
kind
of
from
large
project
review
to
small
project
review
within
the
article
80
system.
C
In
addition
to
other
ways
that
we
could
just
expedite
I
do
think,
as
I
said
before,
that
the
BHA
should
be
totally
out
of
that
frankly,
I
think
when
we're
doing
I
think
we
should
be
acting
as
a
public
developer
on
housing
and
when
we
do
that
on
our
public
land,
we
should
be
being
aggressive
about
about
kind
of
recognizing
that
the
public
review
is
built
into
the
fact
that
the
public
agency
is
deciding
to
meet
a
critical
need.
C
Would
love
to
see
us
figure
out
how
we
identify
areas
around
the
city
where
we
have
a
lot
of
that.
You
know
existing
buildings
are
non-conforming
and
is
there
a
way
to
say
basically
to
make
non-conforming
conform
and
just
say
like
if
you
build
something,
that's
if
you're
a
Triple
Decker
neighborhood
and
you
want
to
build
a
Triple
Decker
like
we're
going
to
make
that
work
for
you
right
and
I,
just
I
want
to
flag.
You
know,
that's
a
big
thing.
C
I
think
that
adus,
when
we
talk
about
like
this
that
affordable
with
a
small
a
how
do
people
keep
that
next
Generation,
you
know
I
know:
we've
had
our
pilots
and
stuff,
but
rolling
out
at
accessory
dwelling
units
more
broadly
across
the
city
would
be
great.
You
know,
I
actually
would
love
to
see.
Maybe-
and
this
might
be
a
part
of
thinking
about
how
you
do
an
affordable
housing
overlay
in
a
city
like
Boston,
where
our
zoning
code
is
so
weird
like
thinking
about
an
an
affh
inflected
one
like.
C
Could
we
actually
pick
places
where
to
counselor
Fernandez
Anderson's
point
we
have
and
and
to
council
Lars
point
with
us
Roxbury
pick
places
where
we
know
we
have
less
than
the
city
average
of
affordable
housing
and
say
in
these
zones.
So
it's
not
one
size
fits
all
but
like
in
these
zones,
we're
actually
like
having
reaching
more
affordable,
affordable
housing
is
a
goal
of
the
Cities.
It's
a
goal
in
line
with
our
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing
obligations,
and
so,
therefore,
we
have
kind
of
this
zoning
relief
targeted
there
in
those
places.
C
I
think
that
could
be
really
neat
I
happen.
To
think
that
you
could
actually
do
that
today,
with
muscular
use
of
the
ffh
zoning
Provisions
that
we
put
in
already
so
like
I,
don't
know
if
you
need
a
further
thing,
but
it
might
be
clearer
for
everyone,
if
you,
if
we
put
some
Geographic
things
out
there,
but.
C
I
am
very
grateful.
Mr,
chair
and
I'll
just
say
yeah,
as
somebody
who
represents
a
lot
of
those
High
areas.
I
would
love
us
to
get
more
affordable
units
in
and
I
know
that
we
have
to.
We
have
to
juice
the
support
and
incentives
and
speed
to
make
that
happen
precisely
because
in
a
lot
of
my
district
land
value
is
so
high
and
people
are
trying
to
do
other
things
with
it.
So.
C
B
D
Thank
you,
Mr,
following
on
from
counselor
box,
mentioning
of
the
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing,
I
think
in
in
Austin,
Brighton
and
and
neighborhoods,
like
Mission,
Hill
and
now
increasingly
in
in
East
Boston
we're
seeing
displacement
of
folks
because
our
institutions
aren't
building
enough
on-campus,
housing
and
I,
don't
know
where
I
think
this
is
there's
many
many
aspects
to
this
whole
problem
of
affordability
in
the
city.
But
the
fact
that
we
have
153
000
students
definitely
puts
a
lot
of
heat
into
our
housing
market.
D
But
I
think
one
thing
that's
frustrating
for
us
and
also
Brighton,
is
that
developers
focus
on
that
market
of
the
young
professionals
and
the
student
population
and
they
build
a
lot
of
housing
that
Studios
one
bedrooms
and
they're,
not
building
family
size
units
and
they're,
not
building
and
they're,
not
thinking
about
planning
and
developing
housing,
that's
friendly
for
amenities
for
families
and
retirees
and
intergenerational
families,
so
that
folks,
families
can
actually
stay
in
our
in
our
city
and
I
think.
Well.
What
right
up?
D
So
I
really
feel
that
the
conversation
about
affordability
and
incentivizing
affordability,
the
the
piece
about
family
housing,
is
really
critical
and
you
know
Iron
people
laugh
at
us
a
few
years
ago
at
meetings,
development,
review
meetings
and
saying
what
are
you
you
could
build
some
family
housing
and
just
just
looked
at
us
like
we
were
crazy,
but
I
I'm,
very,
very
happy
that
we
have
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing
and
Zoning
I
think
that's
a
tool
that
we
need
to
leverage
more
and
make
it
we
make
it
that
it's
not
not
possible
to
just
discriminate
against
families
in
our
in
our
policy.
D
J
Still
blinking:
oh
there
we
go
hi
I
just
want
to
underscore
the
the
affh
comment
by
councilor,
Bach
I.
Think
it's
incredibly
powerful
I
choose
the
word
muscular,
which
is
a
very
it's
just
correct
in
the
way
in
which
that
we
can
move
about
our
regulations.
So
I
just
want
to
underscore
that
and
the
family
housing
comment
made
by
councilor,
Braden
I
would
I
I.
Guess
we're
not
doing
questions
right
now.
J
So
what
I'll
do
is
just
encourage
all
of
you
on
on
two
different
points,
so
the
coordinated
tracking
system
I've
heard
from
from
folks
when
it
comes
to
at
least
the
zoning
board
of
appeals,
a
lack
of
transparency
and
the
inability
to
just
get
data.
So
if
this
coordinated
tracking
system
can
be
made
available
to
the
public,
I
would
certainly
appreciate
that
that
way.
J
You
know
folks
they're
always
coming
to
our
office
and
we
do
the
best
that
we
can,
but
if
they
can
just
get
it
online,
I
think
that
would
be
incredible
and
then
the
other
thing
too,
and
what
I'm
seeing
in
district
one
is
that
you
know,
for
example,
for
135
Bremen,
Street
or
you
know
I
think
there's
another
another
project.
It
was
the
Mount
Carmel
project
they're,
coming
back
to
the
bpda
for
approvals,
because
they've
changed
their
plans
and
so
I
would
like
to
see
them
subjected.
J
Maybe
to
this
new
executive
order
or
whatever
we
do.
I've
already
asked
them
to
abide
by
the
updated
linkage
they
kind
of
scoffed.
At
me
at
that
idea,
we've
already
gone
through
the
approvals
process.
We've
already
gone
through
the
community
process,
and
so
we
don't
need
to
give
extra
linkage
and
they
were
approved
in
2014.
and
I.
Just
think
it's
absolutely
ridiculous.
So
if
we
can
incentivize
them
through
this
to
produce
more
affordability,
I
think
that
would
be
incredible.
Also.
So
thank
you.
K
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
all
of
you
for
being
here
with
us
today.
I
know
that
I
only
have
two
minutes,
so
I
have
three
things.
The
first
thing
is
that,
as
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
chair,
I
filed
a
hearing
order
to
have
a
conversation
regarding
Boston's
inclusionary
development
policy.
K
One
of
the
things
that
we
know
is
that
our
Ami
is
inclusive
of.
If
and
I
believe.
If
I
have
this
number
correctly
114
surrounding
cities
and
towns,
and
we
cannot
change
the
Ami
or
how
we
we
can't
change,
how
we
calculate
the
Ami,
but
we
can
change
our
definition
of
what
affordable
is
in
the
city
of
Boston
I
held
the
hearing,
because
mayor
Wu
made
a
campaign
promise
that
she
would
be
making
changes
to
both
the
IDP
and
the
Ami
and
we've
had
conversations
and
I
know
that
you
have
had
internal
delays
based
on.
K
You
know
the
the
consultant
that
you
hired
to
kind
of
go
through
the
study,
but
it's
November
and
I
have
been
incredibly
patient
and
it
is
unacceptable
that
we
have
not
made
any
changes.
We
have
already
gone
through
studies
that
shown
that
we
can
go
below
the
nine
unit
threshold
and
I
think
that
that
should
have
been
acted
upon
and
so
I
just
want
to
go
on
the
record
to
say
that
we
are
waiting
and
I
am
not
waiting
patiently
any
longer.
K
I'm
kind
of
you
know
wanting
to
speed
up
the
process
and
figure
out
what
the
mayor
is
going
to
do.
Two
things
I
think
that
one
of
the
you
know
we
have
made
the
comment
about
the
acquisition
opportunity
program,
particularly
around
Transit
corridors,
and
so
we
are
having
our
special
protection
zones.
Hearings
on
December,
13th
and
you'll
receive
official
invitation,
but
I
think
what
we're
looking
at
is
that
there
are
things
that
we
already
have.
K
There
are
things
that
we
already
do
and
what
I'm
looking
is
to
bring
those
together
and
talk
about
how
we
codify
those
and
protect
the
places
that
are
most
deeply
impacted
by
displacement,
which
are
Transit
corridors
in
the
city,
and
so
that
you
know
will
obviously
I
will
send
that
in
a
formal
request.
But
I
just
wanted
to
to
make
that
comment
specifically
about
the
the
special
protection
zones.
That
is
what
I
hope
like
that
is
going
to
be
my
focus.
K
B
All
thank
you
and
I
would
like
to
just
add
to
the
course
co-ops.
B
B
Quite
often,
we
need
to
help
people
to
be
able
to
get
into
these
units
and
eat
a
PhD,
and
just
in
just
filling
out
paperwork
to
be
able
to
get
on
these
housing
lists,
full-time
job
and
something
that
counts
of
from
district
7
had
spoke
about
quite
often
and
I've
thought
about
it.
In
terms
of
people
aging
out
of
their
homes.
B
That's
kind
of
sort
of
regenerate
the
neighborhood,
so
those
are
some
of
my
issues
that
I
have
I
know
the
unsolvable
unsolvable
prompt,
probably
the
the
Boston,
the
Boston
preference
doesn't
seem
to
really
work,
and
but
those
are
just
some
of
my
thoughts.
Thank
you
guys
for
coming
out
here
and
we
do
have
another
another
panel
coming
up.
B
B
M
Well,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman,
my
name
is
Josh
zakim
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
housing
forward.
Massachusetts
I,
want
to
thank
you,
your
colleagues
and
the
sponsor
councilor
Bach
for
holding
this
hearing
for
inviting
us
to
talk
about
affordable
housing
and
Zoning
reform
in
the
city
of
Boston
housing
forward.
M
Massachusetts
is
an
organization
dedicated
to
advocating
for
policies
largely
within
the
control
of
cities
and
towns
that
will
accelerate
the
pace
of
housing
production,
affordable
middle
income,
market
rate,
housing
policy
changes
that,
as
we've
just
heard,
are
often
at
zero
cost
to
cities
and
towns,
and
that
will
increase
the
production
of
housing,
create
increasing
the
supply
and
ultimately,
lowering
the
cost.
So
to
talk
specifically
about
the
executive
order
for
affordable
housing,
I
would
like
to
say
they
are
all
great
changes
applauded.
M
You
know
across
the
board
very
consistent
with
councilor
box
order
from
year
year
and
a
half
ago
and
I
would
say
even
before
then,
with
the
housing
forward,
Massachusetts
blueprint
for
Boston's
next
mayor
that
we
released
earlier
in
the
summer
of
2021.
M
It's
really
exciting.
Implementation,
though,
is
obviously
incredibly
important.
So,
hearings
like
this
I
think,
are
very
important
to
hold
folks
feet
to
the
fire,
so
to
speak.
To
make
sure
we're
talking
about
is
actually
being
implemented.
You
know
creating
predictability
for
Builders
of
both
affordable
and
market
rate.
Housing
is
incredibly
important.
M
You
know,
as
the
mayor's
executive
order
laid
out
for
affordable
housing,
the
review
process
is
almost
a
year
on
average
and
count
and
Mr
chair,
as
you
mentioned,
some
are
far
longer
I,
don't
know
if
any
that
are
shorter,
so
I
used
to
must,
though,
if
that's
the
average,
but
anyway
it's
it's
a
long
time
cost
goes
up
and
we
need
to
address
that
and,
as
we've
also
heard
many
times
in
this
chamber
and
out
in
the
city
in
the
neighborhoods,
there
was
a
housing
crisis
in
the
city
of
Boston,
but
I
think
what
we
also
need
to
mention
and
need
to
talk
about,
though,
is
that
there
really
in
many
ways
are
two
housing
crises
in
the
city
and
across
the
Commonwealth.
M
One
is
the
lack
of
low-income
housing
and
I
believe
Council.
Fernandez
Anderson
was
talking
really
effectively
about
that
when
we
talk
about
affordable
housing
at
what
Ami
level
is
really
important.
There's
also
the
crisis
in
Middle
income
housing,
which
is
often
what
we're
talking
about
80
or
100
of
Ami,
is
what's
being
addressed,
and
there
are
different
solutions
for
each
of
these
crises,
but
I
do
think
this
affordable
housing,
executive
order
and
the
policies
that
have
been
talked
about
so
far
today
will
go
a
long
way
in
addressing
that.
M
You
know
we
I'll
try
not
to
go
on
too
long,
because
it
was
a
lot
you
know,
while
it
was
we
we
had.
Oh,
the
first
panel
was
on
for
a
while.
It
was
really
interesting
and
got
really
deep
into
this,
so
I
have
a
lot
to
to
add,
but
I'll
be
I'll,
just
wrap
it
up
with
saying
at
least
the
opening
was
saying
that
increasing
the
speed
of
review
and
predictability
for
folks
is
going
to
be
incredibly
important
for
the
city
of
Boston
construction
costs.
M
Financing
costs
are
rising,
people
are
abandoning
projects
both
affordable
and
market
rate.
You
know
the
hard
work
and
what
Jesse
will
probably
talk
about
a
little
bit,
that
many
of
us
in
this
room
did
around
parking
minimums
for
affordable
housing
that
could
lead
to
delays
is
really
incredibly
important.
So
I
have
some
specific
suggestions.
M
I'll
make
maybe
further
on
after
this
opening
comment
on
how
to
increase
and
accelerate
housing
production,
but
in
general,
roundly
applauded
changes,
look
forward
to
seeing
the
implementation
and
make
sure
that
we
continue
to
create
more
affordable
housing
and
housing
of
all
types
to
you
know
fuel
this
growing
city
people
still
want
to
come
to
Boston,
which
is
exciting.
We
need
to
build
enough
housing
for
all
of
them.
Thank
you,
Mr
chair.
Thank
you.
N
Mr
chairman
counselors,
my
name
is
Jesse
canson
benanov
I
live
in
District
Six
I'm,
a
former
CDC,
affordable
housing,
developer
and
I'm,
currently
executive
director
at
abundant
housing,
Massachusetts,
an
abundant
housing,
we're
a
boston-based
Statewide
Coalition
of
pro-housing
Advocates
and
organizations
working
to
build
a
better
Massachusetts
with
affordable
homes
for
everyone.
A
bulk
of
our
energy
is
directed
to
communities
outside
of
Boston,
as
we
work
to
overcome
Suburban,
exclusionary
zoning
and
spread
the
responsibility
for
building
the
affordable
homes
needed
by
current
and
future
Massachusetts
residents
throughout
the
region.
N
But
our
single
largest
base
of
members
come
from
the
city
of
Boston
and
we're
committed
to
working
for
zoning
reforms
that
build
a
more
affordable,
inclusive
and
accessible
Boston
for
everyone.
I
want
to
thank
councilor
Bach
for
submitting
this
hearing
order
and
for
initiating
this
really
important
conversation
about
how
we
can
more
affordably
and
efficiently
build
the
affordable
homes
that
low
in
moderate
income
bostonians.
So
desperate
really
need.
Thank
you.
N
Counselor
Baker
for
hosting
the
hearing
today
and
I
also
want
to
thank
mayor,
Wu
and
her
Administration
for
their
commitment
to
expanding
housing,
affordability
in
Boston
and
a
recent
executive
order
to
expedite
permitting
for
new,
affordable
homes
in
the
city
and
explore
other
zoning
changes
to
increase
that
affordable
housing
production.
Abundant
housing.
Massachusetts
stands
in
full
support
of
targeted
zoning
relief
for
new,
affordable
housing
development
in
Boston.
N
We
were
proud
to
work
with
councilor
Bach
former
counselor
O'malley
in
the
last
Council
term
to
eliminate
the
costly
parking
mandates
to
make
it
more
cost
effective
to
build,
affordable
housing
in
Boston,
and
thank
you
to
Mayor
Wu
for
signing
that
into
law.
Last
December,
but
parking
relief
alone
is
not
enough.
As
the
hearing
order
on
today's
agenda
states,
there
remains
a
great
need
to
explore
the
many
other
potential
options
for
reasonable
zoning
relief
for
affordable
housing
development,
including
an
affordable
housing.
N
Zoning
overlay,
such
as
those
recently
taken
up
in
the
cities
of
Cambridge
and
Somerville.
The
Cambridge
members
of
our
Network
abundant
housing
Massachusetts,
were
instrumental
in
advocating
for
in
winning
a
city-wide,
affordable,
housing
overlay
or
what
I
abbreviate
as
aho.
In
Cambridge
in
2020
that
zoning
overlay,
which
permits
greater
height
and
more
homes
in
affordable
housing
versus
market
rate,
Housing
Development,
has
proven
incredibly
effective
while
I
know
Cambridge
City
councilors
are
actually
currently
looking
at
expanding
those
allowances
even
further.
N
Given
the
success
that
they've
seen
since
it
was
first
adopted
in
since
it
was
first
adopted,
the
Cambridge,
affordable
housing
overlay
has
led
to
the
emergence
of
nearly
400
new,
affordable
homes
in
cambridge's
development
pipeline,
to
put
that
in
scale
of
Boston
that
would
be
sort
of
the
equivalent
of
2300
new,
affordable
homes
in
Boston.
In
that
short
period
of
time.
This
includes
buildings
of
various
sizes
and
locations
across
the
entire
city
of
Cambridge.
N
Recognizing
that
Cambridge
is,
of
course,
a
smaller
city
than
Boston,
but
really
recognizing
the
importance
of
doing
this
in
every
neighborhood
across
the
city,
and
this
new,
affordable
pipeline
in
Cambridge
does
actually
contrast.
The
city's
inclusionary
zoning
ordinance,
under
which
the
number
of
affordable
homes
unfortunately
seems
to
have
dropped
precipitously,
since
it
was
raised
to
20
percent
in
2017,
so
we're
seeing
more
affordable
housing
come
in
the
pipeline
as
critical
as
it
is
to
make
sure
the
IDP
Works
in
Boston.
N
We
see
in
Cambridge
that
a
city-wide,
affordable,
housing
overlay
seems
to
be
more
effective,
I'm
grateful
to
be
living
in
Boston,
where
our
commitment
to
affordable
housing
manifests
in
many
ways
from
our
many
strong
cdcs
to
Historic
commitment
by
this
Council
and
the
mayor
to
investing
in
affordable
housing
production
and
preservation
into
the
fact
that
we're
even
having
this
conversation
today,
but
just
as
the
market
alone
won't
solve
the
housing
crisis
for
our
lowest
income.
Neighbors.
N
Greater
funding
and
Zoning
relief
for
affordable
housing
alone
won't
fix
our
broken
zoning
system
that
makes
housing
Out
Of
Reach
for
the
middle
class
as
well.
We
need
to
build
more
naturally
occurring
affordable
homes
for
people
that
may
not
be
income
eligible
for
affordable
housing,
but
can't
afford
the
very
expensive
homes
built
in
much
of
the
city.
Today
we
can
do
this
in
tandem
with
zoning
relief
for
affordable
housing
by
adopting
zoning
by
adopting
reforms
to
fill,
facilitate
the
construction
of
more
missing
middle
homes
across
the
city.
N
Boston
has
a
revered
history
of
building
small
apartments
to
house
its
working
class
residents,
so
there's
precedent
to
allow
smaller,
Apartments
three
to
six
units,
for
instance,
buy
right
in
every
neighborhood
of
the
city.
I
have
a
number
of
proposed
policy
interventions
we
we
can
get
into
them.
Also,
you
know
happy
to
share
them
at
another
time,
but
I
don't
want
to
take
too
much
time
on
my
opening
statement,
but
I'm
happy
to
get
into
them.
B
Thank
you,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
pass
it
up.
Council
block.
C
Thank
you
and
thank
you
both
so
much
for
being
here.
I
actually
would
love
to
just
ask
you
each
to
expand
a
little
bit
on
those
concrete
recommendations.
I
think
that
one
of
the
reasons
we
wanted
to
hold
the
hearing
is
because
we
know
that
the
administration
is
actively
trying
to
figure
out
kind
of
what
this
should
turn
into
the
executive
order
and
so
want
to
get
as
many
things
on
the
table
as
possible.
M
I'll,
do
some
quick
bullet
points
and
happy
to
answer
questions
so
eliminating
parking
minimums
which
I
think
we
both
agree
on.
You
know
more
as
of
right
building
in
every
neighborhood.
Obviously,
with
some
you
know,
dimensional
restrictions,
I,
don't
think
you
can
fit.
You
know
a
six
or
an
eight
unit
building.
You
know
on
100
square
feet,
but
where
it
fits,
you
know
at
least
three
units
should
be
as
of
right.
I
hear
over
and
over
again
from
you
know,
small
folk
for
small
developers.
M
Excuse
me
and
Builders
who
are
trying
to
do
that,
and
they
say
yes.
I
can
make
some
money
building
a
three
family
house,
but
not
enough
that
I
can
go
through
a
year
and
a
half
of
Permitting
and
paying
Architects
and
lawyers
and
neighborhood
reviews.
So
three
family
at
a
minimum
I
think
in
many
neighborhoods,
even
more
should
be
as
of
right.
M
Looking
at
making
sure
you
know,
another
potential
intervention
would
be
looking
at
folks
who
are
exp
exceeding
the
inclusion
or
development
policy
requirements,
while
not
in
maybe
the
60
affordability
of
the
mayor's
executive
order
should
have
some
expedited
reviews,
maybe
not
necessarily
a
density
bonus,
but
I
would
look
at
density
bonuses,
of
course,
as
well
and
I
would
also
look
at
chapter
40R
under
the
Mass
general
laws,
which
is
a
way
to
there.
M
I
believe
there's
only
140r
District
in
Boston
right
now,
I,
don't
know
if
I
see
Devin's,
not
I
knew
he
would
know
exactly
and
sorry
and
over
there,
Joel
I
guess
on
both
sides,
but
what's
important
about
40R
is
it
gives
direct
reimbursement
to
cities
and
towns
for
zoning
under
40R
based
on
number
of
units
and
then
how
many
units
are
built,
the
city
or
town
gets
actual
reimbursement
as
well
from
the
state.
Those
are
just
a
few
quick
ones.
I
know
Jesse.
If
I
had
some
more.
N
Yeah
I
mean
I
would
definitely
Echo
everything
that
Josh
just
said.
You
know
some
other
ideas
or
you
know
in
some
ways
very
similar.
We
really
need
to
consider
the
appropriate
level
of
residential
density
that
can
be
allowed
by
right
either
uniform
across
the
city
or
in
consideration
of
existing
conditions.
N
I
would
also
include
making
sure
we
have
the
right
to
do
accessory
dwelling
units
by
right
across
the
city,
but
the
point
I
want
to
make
there
is
that
you
know
absolutely
around
allowing
you
know
a
Triple
Decker,
a
three
Decker
or
you
know
a
four
unit,
maybe
up
to
six
units
by
writing.
N
Some
neighborhoods
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
fits
in
those
neighborhoods,
but
just
saying
oh
and
you
know
downtown-
or
you
know,
perhaps
in
the
Fenway,
you
can
build
a
you
know
a
three
unit
building,
that's
not
actually
going
to
necessarily
happen
or
help.
So
we
need
to
consider
the
overall
density
that
we
would
like
to
allow
by
right
in
different
neighborhoods.
Considering
current
conditions.
I
would
also
say
we
need
to
reform
and
streamline
the
design
review
process.
N
You
know
very
specifically
substitute
objective
framework
works
for
subjective
and
often
overlapping
design,
review
processes
that
you
know
fantastic
staff
do
within
City
agencies,
and
you
know,
I,
believe
the
time
spent
on
design
review
by
staff
could
be
better
utilized
in
in
other
areas,
eliminate
parking
minimums
for
new
housing
construction
city-wide
to
reduce
the
ultimate
cost
of
renting
or
purchasing
new
homes.
This
is
something
that
I
know.
Mayor
Wu
and
a
number
of
counselors
indicated
their
support
for
during
the
2021
city
council
campaign.
N
N
Ensuring
repairs
to
this
was
talked
about
a
little
bit
in
the
previous
panel,
but
ensuring
repairs
to
existing
structures,
Can
Happen
by
right,
so
that
we
can
either
preserve
existing
housing,
help
convert
it
to
to
more
affordable
housing
or
even
expand
the
number
of
units
in
internally
without
excessive
cost
or
process
behind
it.
And
then,
finally,
it's
a
little
bit
off.
You
know
the
track
here,
but
I
would
encourage
the
council
to
hold
a
hearing
on
mayor
Wu's
appointments
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals.
C
Thanks
I'm
happy
Mr,
Mr,
chairman
yeah,
exactly.
D
I,
don't
have
any
any
questions
at
this
time.
Council
Laura.
K
M
Because
people
are
abandoning
projects,
I
I
think
this
is
you
know,
hap
hanging
across
the
board
is
that
in
some
cases,
even
folks
who
have
been
permitted
because
of
construction
costs
and
financing
costs,
or
you
see
fewer
units
being
built
because
of
construction
costs
and
financing
costs
that
have
gone
up
dramatically
and
obviously
those
costs
are
out
of
the
control
of
some
would
argue
anyone
on
the
planet,
but
certainly
those
of
us
in
this
room.
M
But
it's
the
speed,
it's
it's
the
predictability,
so
I
do
think
the
executive
order
with
the
goal
of
cutting
in
half
the
timeline
for
approvals,
will
give
folks
that
predictability.
So
if
they've
budgeted
out,
you
know
a
10
million
dollar
project,
that's
going
to
get
them,
you
know,
say:
20
25
units
based
on
XYZ
cost.
It's
going
to
be
much
more
in
line
with
after
that
six
month,
hopefully
permitting
versus
the
year
permitting
costs
will
be
similar.
So
that's
that's
been
a
lot
of
what
what
I've
seen
anecdotally.
M
There
certainly
is
data
around
it
as
well,
but
what
I
would
say
is
I
hear
over
and
over
again
folks,
who
are
saying:
I
got
to
take
a
break
I
can't
look
at
this
project
or
that
project
right
now
because
of
those
costs
and
because
I
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
take
me
12
months
or
24
months
or
36
months
to
get
this
project
approved.
Thank.
K
Zoning
interventions
do,
you
think,
would
be
most
effective
and
I
think
that
you've
both
laid
those
out
unless
you
have
any
more
that
you
want
to
add
to
the
list.
Okay,
how
do
you
think
that
we
can
use
the
zoning
code
as
a
tool
to
further
the
creation
of
the
15-minute
neighborhood.
N
Yeah
well,
I
think
one
you
know
I
would
encourage.
You
know.
Members
of
the
committee
to
in
the
council,
to
you
know,
look
at
the
concept
of
of
missing
middle
housing.
N
This
is
a
general
term,
that's
sometimes
hard
to
Define,
but
it
really
refers
to
housing
types
that
were
much
more
common
before
the
you
know:
sort
of
development
of
sprawling
suburbs
in
you
know
around
World
War
II,
which
we're
very
familiar
with
here
in
Boston
with
the
the
three
Decker
home,
and
you
know,
I-
think
zoning
changes
that
allow
smaller
apartment
buildings
near
transit-
or
you
know
you
know
what
we
might
call
Village
centers
think
you
know
you
know:
Center
Street
within
District
Six,
both
in
Jamaica,
Plain
and
West
Roxbury
places
where
we
can
concentrate
that
type
of
development
and
prioritize
that
type
of
development.
N
That
type
of
development
can
be
less
costly
to
build.
It
is
type
of
development
that
smaller
developers
and
contractors,
including
potentially
Builders
of
color,
who
are
trying
to
get
into
the
industry
and
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
work
on
larger
scale.
Development
have
more
access
to,
and
so
I
think,
concentrating
and
prioritizing
against
smaller
buildings,
near
Transit
and
and
and
walkable
you
know,
sort
of
Village
centers
is
a
great
way
to.
M
Do
that
and
if
I
could
add
I
agree
with
everything
that
Jesse
said,
I
will
use
a
couple
examples
you
know
and
I
would
say
in
an
area
I'm
familiar
with
and
Council
box
District.
M
You
know
you
have
a
lot
of
five
and
six
story:
buildings
and
they're,
not
necessarily
around
Village
centers,
although
I
mean
some
of
our
downtown
neighborhoods
are
very
much
like
Village
centers,
but
I
think
that's
really
important
and
there
can't
be
this
sort
of
immediate.
You
know:
opposition
to
height,
even
if
it's
an
area
that
hasn't
had
that
height
I'm,
not
talking
about
a
skyscraper
but
five
or
six
stories,
because
this
city
is
growing,
but
it's
also
growing
in
a
way
that
you
know
for
better
for
worse.
M
This
is
the
fact
people
are
having
smaller
household
sizes
and
you
look
at
the
demographics
and
there's
a
host
of
reasons
for
that.
But
the
fact
of
the
matter
is:
if
we're
going
to
reach
a
goal
of
I,
believe
the
mayor
said:
800
000
residents
in
the
city.
Again,
it's
not
going
to
be
you're
gonna
need
more
units
than
the
city
did.
Last
time
we
had
800
000
residents,
I
think
that's
important.
M
Another
aspect
of
15-minute
neighborhoods
is
if
we
want
them
to
be
Equitable
and
accessible
to
everyone,
because
you'll
see
people
want
to
live
in
15-minute,
walkable
neighborhoods,
it's
very
desirable.
The
city
and
state
and
federal
government,
ideally
is
gonna,
have
to
cut
out
the
checkbook
and
subsidize
some
of
those
very
low
income
housing.
M
So,
while
this
affordable
housing
executive
order
that
we're
talking
about
today
is
really
important
to
go
back
to
the
conversation
earlier
about
what
Ami
level
makes
sense
and
my
my
sort
of
framing
of
the
two
housing
crises,
and
that
through
this
regulatory
reform,
I
do
believe
we
can
solve
it
for
Middle
income
and
missing
middle,
but
we're
also
going
to
need
to
say
if
we're
going
to
have.
You
know
a
unit
that's
available
for
someone
who's
making
20
of
Ami,
whether
it's
for
purchase
or
rent,
there
has
to
be
a
there's.
M
Gonna
have
to
be
a
subsidy
there
at
some
level.
You
know
and
cut
out
the
checkbook
I
guess.
K
K
And
then
housing
on
top
and
one
of
the
concerns
in
West
Roxbury,
for
example,
you
know
the
the
project
that
I
referenced
earlier
today.
Is
that
this
this
building,
that
this
developer
was
trying
to
build
here,
was
in
the
middle
of
a
commercial
Zone.
It
was
on
the
Center
Street
Main
Street
and
would
effectively
create
a
dead
zone
right
like
a
commercial
dead
zone.
If
you
just
put
a
building
there
without
any
commercial
and
so
I
really
like
the
way
that
mixed
use
looks
absolutely.
I
K
Terms
of
character
of
a
neighborhood
when
you
have,
and
so,
but
you
didn't
mention
it
so
I
just
wanted
to
bring
it
up.
Do
you
think
that
that's
also
something
that
would
be
useful.
N
Oh
absolutely
I
mean
I.
Think
having
the
mix
of
uses
is
critical
for
walkable
50-minute
neighborhoods
I
will
say
that
the
Cambridge,
affordable
housing
overlay
does
consider
that
and
while
I
can't
quote
it
verbatim,
I
believe
there's
a
recommendation,
if
not
requirement
that
on
Commercial
corridors
in
Cambridge
so
think
you
know
Mass
Ave,
for
instance,
if
you
are
doing
a
project
under
the
aho,
you
need
to
do
ground
floor.
Retail
I'm
happy
to
get
more
information
on
that
and
pulling
it
out
of
my
deep
memory
here,
but
something
something
to
consider.
K
N
N
You
know
technical
advisory
committee
for
that,
and
you
know
look
forward
to
the
policy
recommendations
coming
out
of
that,
but
I'm
looking
at
pure
units
again
approximately
400
units
in
the
pipeline
in
two
years,
there's
been
within
the
neighborhoods
in
Cambridge,
under
their
20
inclusionary
there's
been
almost
a
single
digits
of
units
built
under
that
that
policy
most
of
them
are
happening
in
the
large.
You
know
multinational
well-capitalized
developer
projects,
either
in
Alewife
or
or
what's
it
called
North
Point
Cambridge
Crossing
near
Somerville,
okay,.
C
Well,
one
thing
I
wanted
to
pick
up
on
was
just
that
point
about
about
the
mixed-use
neighborhoods
I
think
you
know,
I
think
it's
always
worth
registering
the
fact
that
there
is
this
history
in
our
country
of
zoning
as
being
a
tool
for
racial
and
residential
segregation.
C
And
it's
interesting
when
you
look
back
at
100
years
ago,
when
zoning
first
started
coming
in,
you
know,
lot
size
requirements
and
such
and
like
single-family
zoning
was
very
much
designed
often
to
keep
black
families
out
of
neighborhoods,
because
they
did
not
have
the
wealth
to
pay
for
that
kind
of
housing.
C
For
someone
who
happened
to
be
a
tailor,
you
know
or
like
a
trade
like
that
to
actually
have
their
shop
in
their
and
their
housing
on
the
same
site,
so
I
do
think.
I
often
think
you
know
the
I
represent.
As
folks
know,
some
of
the
wealthiest
neighborhoods
in
the
city,
which
also
as
Josh
just
alluded
to
many
of
them,
are
party
wall.
Five
to
six
stories:
No
Parking,
On,
Site,
gotta,
walk
everywhere
and
I.
C
Think
like
it
just
underscores
the
fact
that
there
are
very
human,
like
lovely
housing
forms
that
can
better
accommodate
everybody.
So.
M
It,
let's
just
add
on
to
what
you
said
about
the
zoning
counselor,
is
that
it
is
not
lost
on
me
and
a
lot
of
folks
are
always
surprised
to
hear
the
timing
of
when
Municipal
land
use
and
Zoning
became
so
popular.
It
was
right
after
the
U.S,
Supreme,
Court,
outlawed
racial
covenants
and
housing
and
forbidding
those
you
know,
sales
to
in
many
cases,
black
families,
Jewish
families
and
immigrants,
and
that's
really
important.
Now
that
is-
and
it's
happening
it's
often
becoming.
M
The
effect
of
many
of
our
zoning
policies
is
very
similar
even
today,
and
I
also
just
want
to
shout
one
thing
out,
because
we
often
talk
we're
always
talking
about
Community
input
on
zoning,
as
we
should
in
a
democracy.
We
should
be
having
those
folks
voices
heard,
but
I
also
want
to
caution
us
to
say
it's
not
always
the
loudest
voices
that
are
representing
the
majority.
M
You
know
right
at
Boston,
University
they've
done
outstanding
research
on
who
shows
up
to
many
of
these
Community
meetings,
whether
it's
here
in
city
hall
or
out
in
the
neighborhood
and
what
their
opinions
are,
and
even
looking
at
some
broader
polling.
That
was
done
outside
of
this
academic
study.
Is,
you
know
people
are
asked
over
people
were
asked.
Do
you
believe
you
need
more
housing?
You
know
there's
affordable
housing
crisis,
you
believe
we
need
more
housing
in
the
city
of
Boston.
It's
like
68
or
72,
I.
Think
said:
yes,
we
need
more
housing.
M
M
However,
when
the
question
was
asked,
have
you
in
the
last
I
think
was
the
last
year,
but
it
might
have
been
a
longer
period,
went
to
a
community
meeting
or
any
sort
of
meeting
about
a
proposed
housing
development
in
your
neighborhood.
Were
you
there
and
the
number
of
respondents
there
was
in
the
low
20s,
so
I
think
again.
I
just
want
to
recognize
that
we
absolutely
should
be
having
Community
meetings.
We
should
be
weighing
that
input
and
in
many
cases
it
makes
a
project
better,
but
also
I.
M
C
And
I
always
think
also
that
you
know
the
person
who
the
person
in
the
city
who
who
can't
find
a
place
to
stably,
live
they're
they're.
Somebody
who
the
public
interest
has
to
be
prioritizing
as
well
and
the
reality
is.
They
may
not
be
anchored
in
the
neighborhood
yet,
but
but
we
need
to
be
making
a
place
for
them.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
B
You
Council
block
so
a
couple
things:
here's
a
couple
statements,
15
minute,
neighborhoods
all
sound
good,
come
to
Georgia
like
we're,
trying
to
build
back
our
old
business
districts
that
we
lost
during
the
70s
and
80s,
and
things
like
that
and
it's
difficult
to
get
into
business
now
so
to
to
to
build
around
that
I
mean
Eddie
was
talking
about
Council
Flynn
was
talking
about.
B
B
So
again,
the
one
size
fits
all
the
the
the
as
of
right,
three
Deca
sort
of
stuff
I'm
I'm,
totally
out
on
that
I
mean
I,
because
my
worst
experiences
as
a
as
a
city
council
being
here
for
11
years,
was
that
developer
that
showed
up
and
he's.
Oh,
it's
going
to
be
as
of
right.
Okay,
so
you
got
a
terrible
project.
You
don't
you
know
like
build
it
as
cheaply
and
quickly
as
you
possibly
can
so
that
sort
of
talk
makes
me
nervous.
B
You
know
and
I
do
think.
I
do
think
that,
as
we
talk
about
rezoning,
rezoning
means
the
voice
of
the
neighborhoods,
isn't
necessarily
going
to
be
at
the
table,
because
rezoning
for
the
future
means
five-story
buildings
every
place
and-
and-
and
you
know
five
story
is
the
norm
now-
I'm,
not
necessarily
opposed
to
that.
B
You
know
me:
Josh
I've,
I've
I've
tried
to
I've
tried
to
Shepherd
development
into
my
community,
because
I
think
the
density
that
15-minute
neighborhood
is
where
safety
happens,
the
more
eyes
on
the
street,
the
better
off
everybody
is,
but
I
thought
we
did
a
pretty
good
job
with
this
hearing
today.
Thank
you
guys
and
really
good
to
see
you
Josh.
Thank
you
and
and
good
to
see
you
all.
So
are
there
any
final
statements
comments
concerns.
O
Yeah
I
won't
keep
you
guys.
Thank
you.
Sorry
I
actually
was
meeting
with
Chinatown
residents
about
housing.
It
was
their
biggest
question
and
they
were
walking
me
through
the
plan
above
the
Hudson
Street
Library.
So
that
was
great
to
see
so
sorry,
I'm
late,
but
I
will
review
the
tape
and
just
happy
to
catch
the
end
of
it.
So
you
know
I'm
I'm
here
for
this.
So
thank.