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Docket #0389 - Order for a hearing regarding condominium conversion protections in the City of Boston
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Okay,
we
don't,
I
don't
expect,
we
did
check
with
a
lot
of
the
housing
advocates.
Everyone
most
of
them
are
focused,
obviously
at
the
state
house.
Right
now,
so
it
looks
like
it'll
just
probably
be
mac
and
tim
matt
from
dbls
and
tim
from
dnd,
and
I
will
just
give
it
maybe
two
more
minutes
for
my
colleagues
to
get
on
and
then
we'll
just
get
to
work.
Okay,.
E
A
D
A
A
It's
particularly
painful,
but
I
think
the
goal,
because
we're
we're
trying
to
do,
I
think
four
or
five
ordinances
yeah,
I'm
out
of
government
ops,
I'm
trying
to
move
good
ideas
along
yeah,
okay!
Well,
let's
you
know,
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
the
with
the
set
of
us.
We'll
get
a
lot
done.
Let
me
do
the
formality
good
morning:
everyone,
I'm
city,
council,
lady
edwards,
chair
of
the
housing
and
community
development
committee.
A
It
is
thursday
october
15
2020
we're
here
today
for
a
virtual
working
session
on
docket
zero,
three,
eight
nine
for
a
hearing
regarding
condominium
conversion,
protections
in
the
city
of
boston
and
the
sponsor
of
this
docket.
It
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
february
12
2020.,
in
accordance
with
governor
baker's
executive
order,
modifying
open
meeting
laws.
We
are
balancing
both
the
needs
of
the
public
safety
of
this
pandemic,
but
also
allowing
us
to
continue
to
do
our
work.
A
A
If
you
have
any
written
comments,
you
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
at
ccc
dot,
housing
boston.gov
or
to
juan
lopez,
which
is
j-u-a-n
dot
l-o-p-e-c
at
austin.gov,
and
they
will
be
made
part
of
the
record
we're
here
today
to
design
the
next
steps
in
crafting
a
stronger
conversion,
condo
conversion
law,
some
flight
background.
This
law
needed
to
be
renewed
in
2019.
A
We
extended
it
for
one
year
as
it
was
presently
written
at
that
time
to
make
sure
that
we
had
the
time
and
the
and
the
energy
and
the
feedback
from
everybody
to
strengthen
the
law,
and
we
will
be
renewing
this
law
very
likely
for
another
five-year
term
this
year.
So
we
just
want
to
make
sure
we
got
all
of
the
feedback
and
updates
that
we
could
into
it.
So
I've
been
joined
by
my
colleagues,
counselors
liz,
braden
and
counselor
ed
flynn.
A
I
think
that's
it
for
right
now
we
also
have
been
joined,
we'll
be
hearing
testimony
and
suggestions
from
matt
mcrate
from
greater
boston,
legal
services
and
tim
davis
from
dnd.
A
F
All
right,
I
will,
I
can
do
that.
Yes,
thank
you.
Just
for
the
record,
I'm
tim
davis,
I'm
the
deputy
director
for
policy
development
and
research
at
the
department
of
neighborhood
development,
sheila
dillon,
the
chief
and
director
of
housing
and
the
department
is,
however,
that
is
at
our
our
our
important
housing
boston,
2030
advisory
task
force
meeting
this
morning.
So
she
sends
her
regards.
F
I
will
be
sharing
on
my
screen
all
right.
Let's
see,
okay,.
F
That,
okay,
so
I'm
just
going
to
step
through
this,
and
I
think
that
hopefully
kind
of
go
through
all
of
it,
then
we
can
go
back
to
specific
sections
if
that's
helpful,
so
properties
covered
four
or
more
units.
That
is
what
our
we
are
unable
to
do.
As
we
have
discussed
previously.
We
cannot
do
properties
that
are
small
in
four
units.
Under
our
current
enabling
households
eligible
for
additional
notification,
relocation
benefit.
This
is
both
how
it
has
been
existing
and
what
we
are
proposing.
F
F
The
notification
periods
currently
we're
proposing
that
the
general
requirement
is
one
year
for
eligible
households.
It
is
five
years
that
is
the
same
as
in
the
existing
ordinance,
but
is
also,
as
you
will
see
here,
we
have
really
leaned
into
with
max
assistance.
Looking
at
the
new
somerville
ordinance,
which
we
think
is
quite
good,
we
have
a
few
modifications
to
that
based
on
what
we
think
might
be,
either
a
improvements
or
b
are
looking
at
the
different
kind
of
enabling
that
we
have
that
may
be
different
from
somerville
and
in
the
summer.
F
So
if
I
mention
the
somerville
ordinance,
sometimes
I'll
compare
what
we're
proposing
with
what
they're
proposed,
what
they
have
put
in
place.
So
in
this
case,
in
the
notification
periods,
somerville
is
also
doing
a
general
requirement
of
one
year
and
in
eligible
households
of
five
years.
What
will
be
new
is
that
for
vacant
properties,
there
would
still
be
a
one-year
waiting
period
before
they
would
be
allowed
to
sell
any
units.
F
This
is
as
we
have
now,
and
I
think
it's
similar
to
what
somerville
has
I'm
not
clear
on
that.
But
it's
limited
to
10
or
cpi
annually,
whichever
is
less
for
the
remainder
of
the
notice
period,
so
for
general,
tenants
that
might
be
one
year
for
eligible
tenants
that
might
be
five
years.
Is
that
notice
period
the
relocation
benefits
the
general
requirement
has
been
and
is
also
the
same
for
somerville
is
currently
six
thousand
dollars
and
for
eligible
tenant
is
ten
thousand
dollars
in
our
last
working
session.
F
The
the
notion
was
put
forward
that
maybe
we
should
increase
that
to
ten
thousand
or
fifteen
thousand
for
eligible
tenants.
I
think
we
should
come
back
to
that
and
make
some
decisions
there
and
just
to
kind
of
clarify
in
our
last
working
session.
Chief
dylan
said
something
referring
to
what
what
what
does
it
actually
look
like
in
the
market
for
things
like
first
first
month
last
month
and
security,
deposit
and
based
on
two
bedroom
average
rents?
F
With
this,
this
change
would
introduce
a
right
to
purchase
the
tenant
has
90
days
to
sign
a
p
s.
That's
also,
we
can
discuss
those
days,
but
90
is
the
current,
and
I
think
that
believe
that's.
What
somerville
has
the
city
has
the
right
to
purchase
a
tenants
unit
or
can
assign
it
to
a
non-profit
as
income
restricted?
F
The
city
actually
wouldn't
buy
any
units
directly.
They
would
always
be
assigning
that
right
to
another
agency,
where
there
is
this.
This
came
up
last
time
in
terms
of
what
happens
about
if
there's
a
reduction
in
units
or
if
there's
a
situation
where
the
building
is
actually
torn
down,
where
there
is
a
reduction
in
the
total
units
where
the
building
is
demolished
and
replaced
by
a
condo
building.
The
tenant
has
the
right
to
purchase
a
unit
in
the
building,
including,
if
eligible
any
income,
restricted
units.
F
So,
for
example,
if
it's
a
eight
unit
building
and
they
decide
to
combine
some
units-
and
it
goes
to
six
units
and
their
unit
is
not
no
longer
available-
they
would
have
the
right
to
buy
one
of
the
other
units.
In
that
case,
they
would
still
have
to
be
able
to
afford
a
market
price,
but
at
least
they
would
have
that
right.
F
The
enforcement
currently
tenant
has
the
full
responsibility
of
understanding
their
rights
and
going
to
housing
court
to
secure
benefits.
Matt
can
correct
me
if
I'm
incorrect
in
that
proposed
the
condobinium
conversion
permitting
system
with
required,
tenant
notifications
and
fines
from
the
compliance
and
then
to
kind
of
on
the
in
the
next
page,
I'll
really
go
through.
F
What
that
those
steps,
look
like
at
least
as
they're
proposed,
but
to
give
you
the
high
level
the
permitting
process
would
occur
at
the
inspectional
services
department
it
it
would
be
housed,
in
the
same
with
the
same
group
of
people
who
are
doing
the
short-term
rentals,
because
they
have
kind
of
built
up
their
capacity,
and
we
think
that
I've
had
discussions
with
isd
already
that
they
would
be
capable
of
doing
this.
F
Currently,
we
have
about
20
to
30
conversions
of
buildings
with
four
more
units
per
year.
We
think
that
this
that
is
a
reasonable
capacity
to
for
them
to
address
it
and
also
given
the
process
we're
putting
in
place.
We
think
that
some
landlords
may
choose
not
to
go
forward
so
that
may
lower
the
number
of
of
such
properties
anyway,
and
so
in
reporting
isd
would
be
responsible
for
submitting
an
annual
report
on
their
activities
annually.
F
So,
to
kind
of
go
through
the
permitting
and
notification
process,
I
only
just
have
a
few
more
minutes
and
we
can
dig
into
it
step
one.
The
landlord
would
notify
tenants
with
an
inc
ohs
approved
forms
that
they
will
be
seeking
a
conversion
permit
step.
Two,
the
landlord
or
converter
applies
to
the
inspection
services
department
for
a
what
we're
calling
a
conditional
conversion
permit.
F
In
our
previous
meeting,
there
was
some
discussion
about
using
the
term
removal
or
what
the
difficulty
might
be
or
what
that
relationship
was
to
old
rent
control
law.
We
think
this
more
adequately
represents
what
the
process
is
and
thank
you
matt
for
kind
of
coming
up
with
this
idea
of
doing
a
conditional
permit.
So
before
I
go
into
the
specific
steps,
the
condition
the
developer
goes
to
isd
for
a
conditional
permit,
which
starts
the
process.
F
Basically,
isd
is
saying:
you've
done
what
you're
supposed
to
do
so
far.
We've
done
a
look
back
and
we
haven't
kicked
out
your
tenants
improperly
we're
going
to
allow
you
to
proceed,
and
then
they
come
back
for
a
conversion
permit
at
the
just
before
they
actually
sell
the
units
which
basically
says,
which
is
a
confirmation
that
says
you
did
what
you
were
supposed
to
do,
we're
now
going
to
allow
you
to
sell
the
unit.
F
Owners
must
provide
proof,
tenants
were
notified
and
evidence
of
who
is
living
in
the
building
currently
and
information
on
any
residents
who
lived
in
the
project
over
the
previous
12
months.
If
the
applicant
has
purchased
an
empty
building
or
a
partially
empty
building,
the
applicant
is
still
responsible
for
providing
information
on
the
previous
residents.
F
Also,
at
this
point
there
would
be
a
hearing.
There
would
be
an
opportunity
for
a
hearing,
for
example,
if
there's
any
question
about
what
the
owner
did
in
terms
of
previous
tenants,
there
could
be
a
hearing
process
for
that
step.
Three,
the
office
of
housing
stability
works
with
tenants
to
assess
eligibility
for
enhanced
notification
or
benefits
step
foot.
So
by
doing
that
at
this
point
that
will
help
isd
understand
whether
they're
supposed
to
be
giving
out
just
one
year,
notifications
or
a
combination
of
one
year
and
five
years
at
step.
F
Four
isd
would
release
the
conditional
conversion.
Permit
tenants
will
have
the
ability,
throughout
the
notification
period,
to
report
any
concerns
and
notify
to
see
if
they
move,
sign,
purchase
and
sales
agreement
for
the
unit,
receive
relocation,
benefits
or
face
eviction
proceedings.
So,
in
other
words,
basically
they'll
have
someone
at
the
office
of
housing
disability.
They
can
contact
at
any
time
step.
Five.
The
landlord
seeks
a
conversion
permit
so
they're
preparing
to
sell
the
units.
F
Isd
and
ohs
determine
the
owner,
met,
requirements
of
ordinance
and
isd
releases,
the
permit
step
six
unit,
sales
and
project
closeout
sales
of
units,
proceed.
Isd
and
ohs
confirm
the
final
outcome,
including
any
unit
sales
to
tenants
at
conversion.
So
basically
there
would
be
before
they
were.
Given
the
conversion
permit,
there
might
be
a
purchase
and
sales
agreement
with
the
tenant,
but
it
would
actually
close
after
they
actually
start
sell.
It
was
closed
when
they're
selling
the
other
units
as
well.
F
A
E
So
what
I
was
going
to
add
on
this
is
it's
called
a
conversion
permit,
rather
than
a
removal
permit,
partly
because
it
might
not
always
be
that
the
conversion
of
a
property
is
actually
going
to
lead
to
displacement
of
the
resident.
E
So
it
may
very
well
be
that
an
owner,
as
has
happened
in
the
past,
may
just
be
interested
in
getting
marketing
condos
as
units
become
vacant,
but
actually
doesn't
have
any
immediate
interest
in
pushing
people
out
that
are
in
the
occupied
units.
So
but
those
tenants
still
would
have
the
right
if
there's
going
to
be
a
master
deed
filed
to
be
able
to
purchase
their
unit
if
they're
wanting
to
become
an
owner
of
that
unit,
and
that's
that's.
E
That
part
is
part
of
the
pre-existing
scheme
that
when
there's
actually
a
conversion,
tenants
do
have
the
right
to
purchase
whether
or
not
they're
going
to
be
displaced.
So
we
recognize
that
might
happen.
There
may
even
be
times
when
condo
conversion
may
happen
as
part
of
some
affordable
housing
deal.
E
I
know
we
haven't
hit
that
yet,
but
I
know
there
have
been
some
discussions
about
redevelopment
that
may
include
using
condo
as
a
mechanism,
for
example,
to
scatter
low-income
housing,
tax
credit
units
within
a
complex,
so
just
want
to
make
that
distinction
that
it
shouldn't
always
be
assumed
that,
because
there's
a
conversion,
there's
a
displacement
and
the
sjc
is
really
firm
on
this-
that
back
in
the
80s,
they
came
out
with
the
decision.
That
said,
you
can't
always
assume
that,
because
there's
a
conversion
there
will
be
a
displacement.
F
And-
and
I
think
that's
also
important-
to
bring
up
that,
this
ordinance
will
also
ob
apply
to
cooperatives
and,
obviously,
in
most
the
cases
where
we
hope
that
there
is
a
cooperative
created
that
they
will
be
to
preserve
the
the
the
housing
for
the
existing
tenants.
So
there
are
situations
where
a
conversion
to
a
co-op
is
actually
something
that
we're
looking
for
we're
hoping
for.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
tim
your
memo
of
a
summary.
Have
you?
Maybe
we
could
keep
that
up
on
the
screen,
because
we've
just
been
joined
by
councillor
bach
and
counselor
mejia
and
what
I
think
might
make
sense.
Is
we
break
down
each
section
and
what's
what's
proposed
to
be
new?
We
don't
have
any
specific
language
with
us
today.
A
I
think
today's
working
session
could
probably
be
that
we
agree
to
or
answer
any
questions
to
these
these
changes,
which
all
sound
great
to
me
so
far
so
far
I
I
think
it's
great,
and
so
if
we
can
get
language
together,
then
you
know
we
can
get
that
before
my
colleagues
we've
been
joined
by
councillor
mejia
we've
also
been
joined
by
councillor
bach.
We
did
not
have
opening
statements,
councillor
balker
mejia.
We
just
got
to
work.
A
So
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
check
in
with
anybody
who
has
questions
right
now
for
tim
or
mac
about
what
we
just
saw
before
we
go
back
over
it
again
to
see
what
the
changes
are.
I
have
two
questions,
but
counselor
flynn,
counselor
bach
er
excuse
braden.
D
B
C
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
edwards,
and
I
strongly
support
this
proposal,
especially
providing
protection
for
our
seniors
for
persons
with
disabilities,
low-income
residents.
What
up
what
protections
council
edwards
are
we
looking
at?
If
any,
for
immigrants
in
our
in
our
communities?
Is
there
any?
Is
there
any
protection,
whether
it's
fair
housing
or
any
other
protections
that
might
assist
immigrants
which,
as
we
all
know,
are
of
low
income?
Tenants
as
well?
So
just
wanted
to
ask
that
you
want
maybe
tim
or
yourself
counselor
edwards.
A
So
in
as
much
as
the
enabling
act
allows
us,
I
well,
let
me
just
say
this:
our
human
rights
commission
laws
of
the
city
of
boston
already
banned
discrimination
based
on
national
origin
in
as
much
as
we
would
like
to
take
those
laws
and
add
in
immigration
status
as
a
protected
class.
We
would
have
to
do
that
under
that
ordinance
in
as
much
as
there
are
any
additional
protections
or
classes
that
we
would
like
to
add
to
this
condo
conversion.
A
I
could
turn
it
over
to
mac
to
see
if
we
can
add
additional
protected
classes
for
eligible.
You
know
eligible
notification
and
relocation
benefits
or
does
the
enabling
act
kind
of
limit
us.
E
What
I'd
say
is,
I
think,
the
enabling
act,
kind
of
limits
you.
I
agree
that
anyone
who
is
an
immigrant
should
have
the
same
protections
as
anyone
else
if
they
are
an
occupant
of
a
unit,
that's
scheduled
or
slated
for
conversion,
but
one
of
the
things
I
know
that
came
up
in
our
discussion
earlier
in
the
summer,
which
I
think
counselor
mejia
brought
up,
and
it
was
a
very
good
point
had
to
do
with
limited
english
proficiency
so
there.
E
I
know
that
in
the
draft
that
we've
kicked
around
for
internal
discussion-
and
I
believe
corporation
council
is
currently
working
on,
we
did
include
a
whole
piece
about
making
sure
that
all
those
notifications
are
accessible
to
persons
of
limited
english
proficiency
and
that
basically,
dnd
and
isd
would
be
involved
with
the
formatting
of
that,
so
that
the
information
would
be
understandable
to
everyone.
F
Yes,
yes,
yes,
thank
you
back.
Yes,
there's!
Certainly
notifications,
we
would
assure
are
in
a
number
of
languages,
probably
10
or
11,
depending
upon
what
our
language
access
plan
is
telling
us
at
that
time
and
then
having
the
our
usual
ability
to
talk
to
people
in
other
languages
through
the
language
access
line.
F
F
You
know
immigrants
as
well
as
blacks
and
latinx
people
are
more
likely
to
be
lower
moderate
income
and
therefore
covered
now.
I
could
see
an
instance
whereby,
for
example,
isd
starts
the
conversion
that
the
developer
starts.
The
application
process
they
come
in
isd
discovers
that
they
actually
did
kind
of
illegally
evict
a
group
of
say
you
know,
limited
english
speakers
or
immigrants
earlier
in
the
process,
and
then
we
could
file
a
fair
housing
complaint
against
them
as
well.
A
Excellent,
I
just
had
was
that
all
for
your
questions,
counselor
flynn,
I
had
a.
C
Es
council
edwards,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
you
and
to
the
two
pianos
for
their
exceptional
work
on
this
on
this
proposal.
I
I
support
it.
A
thousand
percent-
and
I
know
it's
in
good
hands
with
this
group-
that's
working
on
this
issue.
Thank
you,
council
edwards.
Thank.
A
You
my
two
questions
and
I
think
one
was
from
the
last
time
and
I
think
it
was
actually
from
counselor
braden
but
or
one
of
the
other
counselors,
but
also
so
the
first
question
is:
does
this
law
apply?
If
I
take
my
two
family
and
create
a
four
unit,
condo
building?
A
Remember
so
it's
so
that
was
the
first
question
right
and
then
the-
and
I
remember
that
was-
I
think
it
was
counselor
braden
and
then
the
other
question
I
had
was
about
the
condo
conversion
notice
or
permit
the
conditional
permit
that
you
just
proposed,
which
is
great.
A
A
A
So
I'm
hopeful
that
the
language
is
broad
enough
that,
for
this
conditional
permit
landlords
would
still
have
to
tell
their
their
tenants,
even
if
they
just
told
them,
ohs
exists
right,
and
I
none
of
these
other
options
are
available
to
you
if
you're
at
less
than
four
units
but
ohs
exists.
If
you
are
concerned
about
where
you're
going
to
live,
what
you're
going
to
do
so
and
so
gbls
exists,
you
know
what
I'm
saying
so.
A
E
So
so
just
a
thought
on
both
questions,
so
I
think
we
talked
about
the
two
to
two
to
larger
before
and
there
are
problems
with
the
enabling
law
about
that.
I
could
see
where
an
owner
could
come
back
and
raise
a
serious
issue
about
that,
given
the
city's
limited
enabling
authority
and
the
fact
that
it
is
so
hinged
on
what
the
existing
space
is.
E
On
the
other
hand,
I
know
sometimes
people
say
different
things
about
a
space,
so,
for
example,
it
might
be
that
the
certificate
of
occupancy
said
it
was
a
three,
but
there
are
some
city
records
that
show
that
it
actually
is
being
rented
out
as
a
six,
and
I
think
those
ambiguities
you
could
use
to
say
bring
it
in
and
I
I've
I've
had
those
cases
before
for
some
properties
which
were
illegally
converted
in
south
boston.
E
E
The
problem
is,
if
we
put
that
in
an
ordinance
that
says
specifically
it's
under
527,
that
makes
it
again
a
little
bit
murky
about
whether
or
not
we
may
be
going
outside,
enabling
law.
It
may
be
cleaner
to
do
that
as
a
separate
ordinance,
which
doesn't
say
it's
under
527,
doesn't
say
it's
under
any
of
those
bells
and
whistles
or
the
buildings
that
are
smaller
and
is
similar
to
the
housing
notification
act.
E
A
So
maybe
the
solution
is
for
the
hna
to
add
in
this
condition
or
reference
the
conditional
permit
in
the
in
the
the
act
that
the
city
is
doing
right
now
that
the
mayor
introduced
just
add
in
language
under
that
that,
in
as
much
as
you're
going
to
convert,
you
still
need
to
seek
the
conditional
permit
and
notify
your
tenants
in
those
cases
as
well.
E
Right
or
or
any
kind
of
notification
that
may
involve
isd
so,
for
example,
we've
seen
cases
where
there's
a
rehab
that
happens
all
around
tenants.
It
essentially
amounts
to
you
know:
constructive
eviction
and
people
get
pushed
out
that
way,
and
while
isd
has
some
guidance
that
says
that's
not
supposed
to
happen
residents
don't
know
that
that's
not
supposed
to
happen
and
that
they
could
call
isd
about
that
sort
of
thing.
F
And
might
suggest
in
terms
of
just
a
procedural
thing.
Obviously
this
is
a
new
idea
for
us.
We
want
to
look
at
it
and-
and
I
think
mac's
thoughts
here-
really
sound.
I
think
from
a
kind
of
process
perspective,
because
we
don't
want
to
discuss
a
permit
process
in
the
notification
bill
that
doesn't
exist.
Yet
I
think
what
we
would
do
is
do.
We
would
do
two
ordinances
at
this
time.
When
we
did
this,
we
could
do
a
companion
ordinance.
That
does
the
notification.
A
Okay,
yeah
yeah;
okay,
so
in.
F
Other
words,
in
other
words,
not
not
amend
the
the
current
notification
ordinance
that
we're
contemplating
now
but
doing
a
companion
ordinance
at
the
time.
We
do
this
ordinance.
F
A
A
We
are
going
to
refer,
however,
to
the
condo
conditional
permit
in
this
ordinance
or
are
you
proposing?
We
have
to.
F
I
don't
know
the
cut
that
can
the
one
reason
why
we
don't
have
the
full
text
view
now
is
because
we're
not
just
doing
small
edits
to
the
existing
ordinance
right
that
we're
basically
we're
basically
doing
a
gut
rehab.
F
If
you
want
to
use
a
building
term,
we're
doing
a
gut
rehab
of
the
ordinance
and
to
bring
in
a
lot
of
the
features
from
the
summerville
ordinance
and
I'm
gonna
course
tweak.
Some
of
those
to
be
in
line
with
our
enabling.
A
Very
well,
okay,
great
so
I
can
we've
also
been
joined
by
counselor
janie.
So
I
am
to
the
counselors
who
joined
after
the
presentation.
A
I
would
be
counselor
mejia
counselor
counselor,
sabi
george,
who
also
joined
us
before
counselor
janie.
What
I
think
might
make
most
sense
because
we've
been
is
for
tim
to
again
go
through
in
blocks
of
the
current
ordinance
and
the
gut
rehab
suggestion
that
he
has
for
it.
A
So
we
didn't,
we
didn't
really
again.
We
didn't
really
have
opening
remarks.
We
just
got
to
kind
of
what
the
summary
of
the
changes
were
so
tim.
If
you
want
to
go
back
to
sharing
the
screen
and
mac,
I'm
assuming
you've
seen
and
gbls
is
good
with
most
or,
if
not
all,
of
these
changes.
G
A
No-
and
I
appreciate
that-
no
no,
what
I'm
asking
him
to
do-
and
this
is
for
everybody-
is
he
summarized
what
the
changes
were,
but
now
we
want
to
go
section
by
section
and
thumbs
up
thumbs
down
and
then
keep
moving,
and
I
figured
that
would
be
helpful
for
everybody.
F
A
Okay,
here
we
go
again
summary:
okay,.
F
Yep
yep
so
again,
properties
covered
four
more
units.
That's
our
eligibility
question!
That's
our
enabling
question
again
now:
we've
just
had
a
discussion
about
maybe
that
there's
some
kind
of
at
least
notification
process
around
condominium
convergence
for
buildings
with
three
or
fewer
units,
so
that
would
be.
That
would
be
a
an
additional
ordinance.
We
might
look
at
the
household's
eligible
for
additional
notification.
Relocation
benefit.
This
is
as
under
the
current
ordinance.
F
F
Yes,
thank
you
notification
periods,
the
current
proposal
I
mean
the
current
ordinance
and
the
somerville
ordinance
both
have
a
general
requirement
of
one
year
for
most
tenants
and
five
years
for
eligible
households.
F
Now
one
comment
on
that
I'd
like
to
make
is
that
there's
been
some
question
about
whether
we
should
extend
those
notification
periods
now,
that's
certainly
something
we
can
look
at,
but
I
also
believe
that,
with
the
certification
process
in
place,
that
additional
notification
periods
may
not
be
that
important,
because
then
we're
confirming
that
they're
really
getting
their
real
notification
periods
and
vacant
properties.
F
This
is
something
that
is
new,
that
if
there
is
a
vacant
property,
if
we,
if
isd,
determines
that,
in
fact
those
tenants
did
leave
properly
rather
than
were
pushed
out,
the
owner
would
still
have
to
wait
one
year
before
they
could
start
selling
units.
This
is
really
to
encourage
building
owners
to
actually
just
go
ahead
and
keep
their
tenants
in
place
through
this
process,
rather
than
pushing
them
out.
A
A
F
To
either
stay
in
the
unit
and
or
there
would
be
if
they
can
leave
earlier,
but
it
would
be
at
the
tenants-
the
tenant
would
do
that
voluntarily,
because
the
landlord
has
either
found
them
a
comparable
housing
within
their
neighborhood
or
within
the
city
in
a
neighborhood
that
they
were
happy
with
or
and
or
they
have
taken
the
relocation
benefit.
F
E
Yeah,
no,
that
that's
all
correct
and
the
one
thing
that's
a
little
different
is
again.
It
may
be
that
an
owner
at
the
current
time
doesn't
want
to
display
someone
and
is
merely
doing
a
conversion
or
attempt
to
sell
some
units
in
the
building
at
that.
If
that
happens,
if
they
then
do
want
to
do
a
subsequent
displacement
of
somebody
who
was
there
at
the
time
of
the
conversion,
then
the
notification
period
would
start
to
run
for
the
person,
then
either
one
year
or
five
years,.
A
A
A
I
have
to
give
them
if
they're
a
general
requirement
a
one
year
notification
period
as
in
one
year
from
now,
you
will
have
to
leave
these.
Are
these
your
rights
so
on
and
so
forth?
If
they're
one
of
the
protected
class
above
they
get
five
years
a
notification
period,
and
then
I
believe
what's
new?
Is
the
vacant
properties.
F
F
Right
form
of
notification
to
tenants.
Currently
it's
all
on
the
tenants
kind
of
shoulders
to
understand
what
their
rights
and
responsibilities
are,
there's
no
notification
requirements.
So
I
think
this
is
what's
really
you
know
starts.
The
important
new
changes
is
that
the
office
of
housing
stability
would
create
specific
notification,
forms
specifically
spelling
out
the
conversion
process
and
tenants
right
and
provided
in
multiple
languages,
and
that
would
be
and
then
obviously
they
could
it
would.
There
would
be
a
way
that
they
could
immediately
contact
the
office
of
housing
stability
directly,
rent
increases.
F
F
The
current
ordinance
and
the
somerville
ordinance
both
have
a
general
requirement
of
six
thousand
dollars
eligible
tenants
or
at
ten
thousand
dollars.
Well,
we
I
did
look
at
average,
two
bedroom
rents,
and
if
you,
if
someone
was
doing
first
month
last
month
in
security,
they
would
need
to
have
7
500
on
hand.
So
obviously
I
think
you
know
the
administration
is
comfortable
with
increasing
it,
and
I
want
to
point
out
that
at
our
last
working
session
the
the
idea
was
floated
of
10
000
for
general
and
15
000
for
eligible
tenants.
So.
E
E
Let
me
just
add
to
that
before
the
council
discusses
this
because
again
really
good
for
us
to
get
your
direction
about
what
what
you'd
like
on
this
is
that
the
council
twice
previously
changed.
The
relocation
benefit
from
the
original
1999
ordinance
again,
seeing
that
the
market
had
changed
and
it
was
really
necessary
to
up
the
benefit
to
match
what
was
going
on
and
the
last.
E
A
So
to
my
council
colleagues,
we've
heard
some
some
changes:
the
vacant
property
being
part
of
the
notification
period,
ohs
doing
some
notification
and
now
the
relocation
benefit,
which
I
think
we
we
really
should
discuss
those
three
real,
quick.
I
I
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
cost
of
living
increase.
That's
why
the
relocation
benefit
increase,
makes
sense
to
me
ten
and
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
Those
are
just
my
thoughts,
but
going
in
order
of
arrival.
Councillor
braden.
D
And
just
a
quick
question:
the
vacant
properties,
if
you
look
into
a
vacant
property-
and
you
discover
that
there
are
folks
who
are
eligible
eligible
and
tenants
in
that
previous
cohort
of
tenants
that
have
that
we're
in
the
vacant
building,
are
they
eligible
for
some
further
benefit?
Or
is
it
just
does
the
does
the
owner
of
the
property
still
have
to
it?
Just
has
to
give
a
year
have
a
year,
and
and
that's
it.
E
So
that's
the
reason
for
the
conditional
permit
system
is
that
the
city
could
very
well
say
we
are
not
going
to
grant
you
permission
to
do
this
conversion,
because
this
happened
and
figure
out.
What's
the
best
means
to
remedy
that,
you
know
the
owner
may
come
forward
with
something
that's
a
sufficient
mitigation.
It
also
may
be
something
that
the
current
owner
wasn't
really
involved
with,
but
they're
still
tagged
for
what
happened
in
the
previous
12
months,
and
so
it
may
be.
We've
got
some
other
property
here.
We
can
place
them
into
at
comparable
rents.
E
F
That's
correct,
you
could
say
no
also,
we
haven't
determined
what
the
fines
would
be,
but
there
would
be
a
fine
structure-
and
you
know
similar
to
our
discussion
yesterday
about
the
notification
law.
Isd
would
probably
put
something
in
place
similar
to
that.
F
Where
there's
you
know
up
to
300
per
occurrence,
and
those
occurrences
can
be
many,
and
also
one
thing
is
that
the
the
text
that
we're
drafting
also
looks
at
the
intent
to
convert-
and
it's
kind
of
you
know,
figuring
out
what
that
intent
was,
and
it
could
be
that
they
came
to
bpda
for
a
pre-file
meeting
and
they
dropped
the
word
that
it's
going
to
be
a
condo.
It
could
be
that
they
have
secured
the
services
of
a
real
estate
agent.
A
A
A
Oh,
oh,
I'm
sorry
counselor
counselor.
I
already
asked
my
question
or
I
support
all
this
so
counselor.
A
B
G
I
Hey,
thank
you
so
much.
Madam
chair.
This
all
looks
great.
Just
a
clarifying
question
on
the
relocation
benefit
is
this:
on
top
of
first
lassen
security.
If
the
tenant
has
submitted
first
class
and
security,
no.
I
I
So
you're
a
tenant
and
your
your
landlord
is
converting
they've.
Given
you,
the
notification,
they've
done
everything
you've
already
paid:
first
lasting
security.
Obviously
your
first
month's
rent
is
already.
You
know
right,
get
that
back,
but
assuming
that
there's
a
last
month,
deposit
in
a
security
deposit
is
this.
On
top
of
that
is
my.
F
It
is
yes,
thank
you
for
the
clarification
I
was
confused
at
first.
Yes,
yes,
so
any
anything
that
they
already
had
with
the
landlord.
They
would
get
back
their
security
positions.
B
I
90
days
to
sign
a
pns,
and
I
love
that
the
first
writer
refusal
goes
to
tenant,
that's
so
important
as
we're
trying
to
kind
of
level
the
playing
field
in
terms
of
home
ownership.
The
question
for
me
is:
when
does
that
90
day,
clock
start?
So
does
it
start
at
the
the
year
notification?
Is
it
like?
When
does
the
90
days
begin.
E
E
F
F
Yeah
go
ahead,
tim
yeah.
I
think
I
think
I'm
recalling
from
the
draft
text
that-
and
I
think
the
somerville
system
is
what
we're
trying
to
adopt
here-
is
that
it
can
happen
at
any
point
during
the
notification
process,
but
before
they
actually
sell
the
you
know,
they
start
selling
the
units.
I
F
I
Yeah,
so
I'm
really
interested
in
figuring
out
how
we
can
make
sure
there's
ample
time
and
if
there's
a
whole
year
of
notification,
perhaps
you
know
that's
when
you
know
someone
if
someone
had
a
year
to
try
to
get
their
deposits
together
in
terms
of
a
down
payment
or
or
whatever
they
need
to
get
together.
That's
a
more
that's
a
better
opportunity.
I
think
that
puts
the
tenant
in
a
stronger
position
so
anyway,
this
all
looks
good
that
that's
it
for
me,
in
terms
of
the
clarifying
questions,
I've
got
a.
F
A
You
so
counselor
be
here.
I
have
called
her
before
she's
joined
us
back
again,
so
councillor
mejia,
just
we're
discussing
just
the
three,
the
first
three
changes
to
the
condo
conversion:
ordinance,
which
include
providing
notice
for
vacant
units
and
those
who
had
to
leave
those
two.
Those
tenants
if
the
unit's
already
vacant,
providing
an
increase
in
the
relocation
benefit
based
off
of
tim's
research,
a
two
bedroom
apartment.
If
you're
trying
to
get
first
lasting
security,
you
need,
on
average
7
500..
Our
relocation
benefit.
A
Right
now
is
only
6
000
for
general
folks
and
for
the
protected
people
in
classes.
It's
it's
10
000.,
we're
looking
to
increase
that
to
10
000
for
general
and
15
000
relocation
benefit
for
eligible
and
then
also
making
sure
that
we
provide
multilingual
notices
from
the
office
of
housing
stability.
We
already
got
you
girl
on
the
multi-lingual
part,
but
go
ahead
just
want
to
give
you
a
summary.
H
Thank
you,
I'm
going
to
go
to
all
of
the
hearings
that
you
host
counselor
edwards
and
you're
the
best
educator
aside
from
bach
too
she's
a
professor,
so
I
I
would
just
like
to
ask
a
clarifying
question
about
the
notices.
I
know
that
we
do
multilingual
and
that's
awesome,
I'm
just
curious
about
you
know,
folks,
who
may
not
know
how
to
read
or
writes
like
what
type
of
communication
efforts.
Can
we
make
there
just
something
for
us
to
consider.
H
I
always
talk
about
that
just
because
I
know
what
it
looks
like
and
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
really
thinking
about.
I,
when
I
think
about
act,
language
access,
it's
not
just
the
interpretation
and
translation.
It's
really
about.
Are
people
able
to
understand
effectively
what
is
happening
to
them.
So
just
something
for
us
to
think
about
that.
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Yes,
and
obviously
I
mean
I
can
talk
to
our
communications
staff
about
what
are
some
of
the
possibilities,
and
obviously
the
first
thing
that
comes
to
mind
is
is
at
least
keeping
it
in
very
accessible
language,
rather
than
being
really
legally,
I
think
is
important
for
any
communications
that
go
out
as
well.
H
Yeah
and
then
I
really
love
counselor
janie's
questions
about
the
reality
for
people
to
be
able
to
actually
purchase
a
condo
like
that,
giving
people
ample
time.
I'm
curious-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
has
already
been
discussed,
or
if
this
is
a
possibility.
H
But
you
know
how,
when
you
pay
your
rent
on
time
and
they
do
these
rent
to
own
situations,
is
it
possible
for
for
the
folks
who
are
gonna,
who
want
to
buy
that,
at
least
if
your
rent
is
1500
a
month
that
at
least
a
little
portion
of
that
that
you've
been
paying
a
percentage
can
go
towards
your
down?
Payment
is.
Is
that
something
that
we
can
consider
to
help.
F
You
we
can
consider
it,
it
may
be
harder
to
implement
than,
but
we
can
look
at
it.
E
The
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
counselor
janie's
question
earlier
that
the
time
period
to
exercise
the
right
to
purchase
may
depend
on
whether
or
not
the
owner
is
actually
doing
a
displacement
or
is
actually
just
trying
to
get
the
master
deed
to
convert,
but
actually
is
agreeing
to
keep
the
tenant
in
place,
in
which
case
there
wouldn't
need
to
be
the
one
year
notice
to
displace
and
the
five
year
notice
for
protected
people,
and
so
you
may
want
to
distinguish
between
those
two
things.
E
F
H
Yes,
okay,
okay,
that
sounds
awesome.
I
my
last
question,
then,
is
in
regards
to
the
displacement
displacement
situation,
and
then
I
don't
know
if
this
is
sorry,
if
it's
possible,
you
know
oftentimes
when
our
people
get
displaced,
they
end
up
having
to
go
to
brockton
and
stoughton
and
randolph.
H
I
don't
know
if
that's
that's
a
lot
to
ask,
but
I
know
probably
crazy
talk,
but
I'm
just
thinking
about
if
I'm
trying
to
prevent
displacement,
because
I
know
a
lot
of
people
who
are
commuting
from
brockton
because
they
still
have
to
work
in
boston.
It
just
causes
a
lot
of
hardship
for
families.
So
you
know:
are
we
considering
what
that
it's,
not
just
a
financial
support,
but
how
can
we
keep
our
people
here
in
the
city
of
boston?
That's.
E
Right,
that's
a
great
question:
what
I'd
say
is
some
communities
that
have
done
condo
legislation
have
shorter
extended
periods
for
protected
groups,
and
then
they
lengthen
it.
If,
then,
the
owner
doesn't
get
a
comparable
unit,
we
had
decided
a
long
time,
or
at
least
the
previous
councils
had
decided
a
long
time
ago,
not
to
do
that,
but
to
instead
just
go
for
the
extended
time
period.
E
But
there
is
language
in
there
that
talks
about
the
owner's
duty
in
the
meantime
to
be
looking
for
comparable
housing
and
they
talk
about
comparable
housing
in
terms
of
rent
level
in
terms
of
the
same
community,
all
the
all
sorts
of
things
that
most
many
people
are
looking
for
and
so
oftentimes
the
smarter
owners
are
out
there
beating
the
bush
because
they
say
okay,
five
years,
that's
just
a
long
time.
A
May
I
also
add
the
increase
in
the
relocation
amount
will
also
make
boston
a
little
bit
more
accessible
right
now.
As
you
know,
the
rents
that
tim
looked
at
were
based
off
of
I'm
a
two
bedroom
in
boston.
Am
I
correct
tim?
That's.
F
A
So
giving
people
more
money
allows
for
them
to
have
compete
more
in
the
boston
market.
My
if
I
might
also
suggest
I'm
wondering
if
they
have
to
leave
the
city
of
boston,
could
we
require
that
there's
an
increase
in
the
relocation
benefit,
so
it's
almost
a
disincentive
for
the
owner
to
give
them
a
check
and
then
say
make
it
work.
It's
almost
like.
A
Let's,
we
want
to
cap
how
much
we
give
so
if
you
have
if,
for
example,
as
counselor
mejia
just
noted,
if
the
person
is
going
to
brockton,
the
relocation
benefit
would
also
include
a
move,
move
costs
as
well,
and
all
these
other
things,
so
it's
more
expensive
for
them
to
leave
the
city
of
us
than
it
is
for
us
to
find
a
place
for
the
owner
to
find
a
place
for
them
to
live
in
boston.
Yes,
oh
my.
H
God
I
love
you,
that's
like
yes,
because
that
is
real
thinking
right
there
right,
because
it
has
no
seriously
it's
like
the
social
emotional
trauma
that
we're
experiencing.
We
need.
There
needs
to
be
some
like,
I
think,
you're
right.
I
think
we
should
make
it.
I
I
if
especially
yeah,
I
would
have
to
say
that
I
agree
with
providing
additional
resources
and
money
to
folks
who
have
who
who
have
to
leave
the
city.
E
We
should
look
at
that.
I
I
just
want
to
be
a
little
bit
careful
about
privileges
and
immunities
clauses
in
the
constitution
on
this
one
around
where
you
know.
In
any
event,
there's
been
because
there's
been
past
litigation
in
boston
about
that,
so
we
we
definitely
can
look
at
that
and
it
makes
sense
in
terms
of
a
policy
policy.
H
A
F
It
feels
like
we've
talked
about
the
right
to
purchase.
It
can
be
assigned
to
a
non-profit
as
income
restricted
where
there
is
a
reduction
in
the
total
units
or
the
building
is
demolished
or
replaced
by
a
condo
building.
The
tenant
has
a
right
to
purchase
a
unit
in
the
building,
including,
if
eligible
any
income
restricted
units.
So
any
idp
units.
F
A
F
I
think
we
can
look
at
it,
I'm
a
little
shy
of
increasing
it
too
much,
but
I
think
but
obvious.
I
think
that
we
can
so
and
maybe
120
days
would
be
sufficient
here
right.
F
G
F
Reporting
isd:
oh
yes,
enforcement
current
tenant
has
a
responsibility
of
understanding
their
rights
and
going
to
housing.
Court
proposed
the
condominium
conversion
permitting
system
which
I'll
go
in
through
on
the
next
page
and
isd
would
be
required
to
do
an
annual
report.
E
On
the
on
the
90-day
piece,
my
recollection
but
tim-
and
I
can
go
back
and
look
at
this-
is
that
somerville
actually
changed
that
a
little
bit
to
deal
with
some
financing
issues
that
people
might
have.
So
you
know
if
they
were
initially
doing
certain
steps,
but
then
there
were
some
extra
steps
that
were
associated
with
getting
the
financing.
I
think
somerville
added
some
some
good
language
on
that
which
I
think
is
in
the
revised
draft
that
we're
working
on
correct.
F
So
to
look
at
the
actual,
permitting
and
notification
process
to
kind
of
again
to
kind
of
summarize,
the
overall
goal
is
that
the
landlord
would
notify
their
tenants
if
they
were
going
to
seek
a
conversion
permit.
The
landlord
would
then
go
to
inspectional
services
department,
and
the
first
step
would
be
a
conditional
conversion.
Permit
isd
would
provide
the
landlord
with
a
full
understanding
of
both
their
and
tenants
rights
and
responsibilities.
F
The
owner
must
provide
proof,
tenants
were
notified
and
evidence
of
who
is
living
in
the
building
currently
and
information
on
any
residents
who
live
in
the
project
over
the
previous
12
months.
If
the
applicant
has
purchased
an
empty
building
or
a
partially
empty
building,
the
applicant
is
still
responsible
for
providing
information
on
the
previous
residents.
F
Ohs
would
work
with
the
tenants
to
assess
eligibility
for
enhanced
notification
and
benefits,
and
then
knowing
whether
or
not
a
tenant
was
eligible
for
one
year
or
five
year,
and
whether
or
not
the
landlord
had
already
done
what
was
proper
isd
could
release.
What's
called
a
conditional
conversion.
Permit
it
basically
says
you've
done
what
you're
supposed
to
do
so
far,
but
we-
and
these
are
the
steps
that
you
must
follow
in
order
to
get
your
final
permit.
F
Tenants
throughout
the
notification
period
would
have
be
able
to
report
any
concerns
and
notify
the
city
if
they
move
sign
a
purchase
of
sales
agreement
for
the
unit,
receive
relocation,
benefits
or
face
eviction
proceedings.
So
basically
there
would
be
they
would
have
a
case
manager
at
the
office
of
housing
stability.
To
do
that,
then
the
landlord
would
just
prior
to
actually
selling
units
would
actually
come
back
for
the
full
conversion.
F
Permit
isdnohs
would
determine
the
owner
of
net
requirements,
isd
releases,
the
conversion
permit,
and
then
they
would
be
able
to
sell
the
units,
including
any
units
to
tenants
who
had
secured
a
purchase
and
sales
agreement.
So
those
are
the
steps
in
that
process.
This
is
all
new.
As
I
said
previously,
it
was
all
up
to
the
tenant
to
kind
of
know
their
rights
and
responsibilities.
F
Work
with
gbls
go
to
housing
court.
All
those
kinds
of
things
I
think
just
creating
this
system
really
closes
a
lot
of
the
loopholes
and
and
because
we're
also
doing
some
look
back,
gives
us
some
opportunity
to
address
some
of
those,
those
clear
outs
and
a
way
to
actually
find
those
find
those
developers
as
well.
A
A
If
you
want
to
even
convert
the
condos
landlords,
you
have
the
following
steps
and
you'll
be
checking
in
with
the
city
of
boston
at
these
times
to
get
these
permits,
and
I
think
the
genius
of
it
is
you're
moving
it
through
our
isd
process
versus
trying
to
change
the
zoning
code
or
home
rule
or
anything
like
that.
It's
it's
just
great,
so
I
just
I'm
very
excited
about
this
process,
so
we're
gonna
go
through
the
final.
A
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
this
is
going
back
to
the
eligible
tenants
again.
The
60,
the
62
years
for
the
elders
is.
Is
there
any
way
we
can
bring
that
down
to
60.
E
Yeah,
I
I
think,
let
me
go
back
and
re-read
the
enabling
law,
but
I
think
it
may
be
possible
there.
60
is
usually
the
the
limit.
That's
used
for
state
public
housing,
for
example.
Yeah
62
is
the
hud
limit,
but
we
should
just
take
a
look
again
to
see
if
the
legislature's
hemmed
us
in
and
if
not,
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
D
Yeah,
you
know
one
of
the
one
of
the
groups
that
we
get
calls
from
are
actually
women.
You
know
in
that
age
group
like
55
to
65
years,
they're,
they've,
they're,
being
they're
being
displaced,
and
it's
very
difficult
for
them
to
get
relocated,
and-
and
it's
in
the
scenario
that
this
is
very
often
so
I
really
appreciate
lowering
that
age
to
60
would
be
if
it's
possible.
I
think
that
would
be
great.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
was
that
was
that
all
your
questions
for
this
this
section.
D
The
other
thing
you
know
with
regard
to
a
a
landlord
clearing
a
building
and
then
passing
it
on
to
another
develo
developer,
to
do
a
condo
conversion,
it's
sort
of
despicable,
but
it
happens-
is
there
any
recourse
to
make
that
landlord
who
tears
the
building,
bear
some
responsibility
for
this
situation
like?
Is
there
any
any
penalties
that
can
be
leveraged,
or
will
this
ordinance
actually
just
severely
deter
that
that
that
occurrence.
A
If
I
may,
I
think
this
new
permitting
process
counselor
braden
allows
for
the
city
to
assess
daily
fines
up
to
300
a
day
and
also
deter.
It
puts
the
burden
now
on
the
landlord
to
be
proactive
and
informing
tenants
of
their
rights,
because
if
they
don't,
they
don't
get
a
permit
to
convert
the
unit
which
is
really
good.
So
this
is
the
proposed
I
think,
gap
filler
for
the
for
this
to
address
both
of
your
concerns
very.
A
F
And
this
is
just
I'm
just
kind
of
thinking
out
just
thinking
it
through
of
a
potential
situation.
F
If
there
was
a
developer
who
bought
an
empty
building,
they
claim
or
they
what
or
they
did
in
fact
not
know
that
it
was
not
properly
cleared
then,
and
they
got
all
these
fines.
Would
it
be?
Would
that
developer
sue
the
previous
owner
or
would
there
be?
I
don't
know
if
there
would
be
an
ability
to
do
that,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
about
what
would
actually
happen
in
that
situation.
D
E
Particularly
since
that
purchaser
is
then
going
to
be
coming
to
the
city
agency
and
we'll
have
to
provide
that
last
year's
worth
of
records
about
it,
which
and
if
they
can't
assemble
those
records
in
the
sufficient
form
cities
going
to
deny.
So
they
are
going
to
have
a
strong
interest
in
as
part
of
any
sale.
A
Thank
you,
as
I
believe
councillor
flynn
may
have
stepped
off
and
I
believe,
is
fully
supportive
of
the
changes
proposed.
A
H
A
No
problem,
not
a
problem,
and
just
just
for
you
to
note
at
the
end
of
this
and
all
of
our
questions,
I'm
going
to
go
back
through
and
kind
of
note
the
changes
so
that
all
of
us
can
have
a
final
thought
about
it.
So
don't
worry
we
got
you.
H
Do
we
look
at
how
these
condo
conversions
impact,
the
property
taxes
for
the
people
who
live
in
the
neighborhood?
So
let's
say,
for
instance,
I've
lived
in
my
house
for
30
years
and
my
property
taxes
are
all
right,
but
then
you
have
all
these
new
buildings
and
all
these
beautiful
things
that
are
happening
on
your
block
and
then
everything
changes
are
we
looking
at?
Is
that
part
of
this
conversation?
A
That's
the
point,
I
appreciate
that
and
I
think
you
are
hitting
on
the
nail
on
the
head
discussing
indirect
displacement
just
through
gentrification,
an
increase
in
property
taxes
which
you
you
and
I
both
know.
There
are
some
seniors
who
are
income
poor,
but
housing
rich
and
the
increase
in
their
taxes
is
what's
also
driving
a
lot
of
people
out
of
their
homes.
It's
just
so.
I
think
that's
what
you're
talking
about
and
that's
something
you've
we've
mentioned
before.
I
don't
know
that
we
can
correct
this
ordinance.
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair
yeah.
I
mean
uncharacteristically,
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
questions
here.
I
I
feel
like,
if
there's
a
team,
that
I
feel
pretty
good
about
it's
the
tim
mack
counselor
edwards
team.
B
I
think
he's
done
amazing
work
here
and
I
just
I
just
want
to
flag
for
everybody
that
I
mean
we
talked
about
a
lot
of
concerns
back
at
the
working
session
on
july
27th,
and
we
talked
about
what
mac
alluded
to,
which
is
that
the
space
we
have
here
within
the
state
enabling
act
is
narrow,
but
I
feel
like
what
we're
doing
with
this
proposal
really
maximizes
that
space
and
does
it
does
a
lot
to
try
to
tackle
this
problem
in
the
city.
E
Is
that
okay?
Madam
chair,
I
do
okay,
so
one
thing-
and
I
think
I
mentioned
this
before
you
joined
the
call-
which
is
that
the
conversion
permit
also
may
affect
something
where
there
may
be
a
major
redevelopment.
That's
done
in
which
condo
conversion
is
a
part
of
doing
major
redevelopment
with
lots
of
creative
financing.
E
That
might,
for
example,
happen.
Let's
say
in
a
public
housing
development,
and
so
there
may
be
questions
about
not
creating
any
unintended
consequences.
Protecting
everyone
making
sure
all
the
protections
are
in
place,
but
also
making
sure
that,
where
you're
using
those
creative
financing
techniques,
it
can
still
happen.
So
your
feedback
on
that
as
we
get
you
a
draft,
would
be
very
helpful.
B
I
would
be
happy
to
look
at
that
mac
and
yeah
as
soon
as
there's
legislative
language,
we'll
definitely
dig
in
on
my
side
and
happy
to
use
some
past
experience
on
that
front.
But
conceptually
here
this
looks
great.
A
G
Counselor
george,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
no.
I
also
appreciate
sort
of
the
clarity
and
the
drafting
and
the
the
true
nature
of
this
working
session
and
the
information
that's
shared
and
how
it's
been
shared.
So
I'm
very
grateful
for
that
and
I
don't
have
any
questions
on
the
set
this
section
either.
Thank
you.
D
G
A
And
I
think
counselor
janie
said
she
had
a
hard
stop,
so
she
might
not
be
with
us,
but
just
calling
to
make
sure
she's
here,
no
okay.
So
what
I
see
are
again
just
for
my
colleagues,
the
the
major
changes
ohs
having
vacant
properties,
getting
the
notice
the
potential
change
to
60,
as
proposed
by
councillor
braden,
which
seems
to
be
something
unless
you
know.
A
I
think
it
makes
sense
so
vacant
properties
proposed
by
dnd
and
gbls
ohs
to
do
the
notification
form
by
dnd,
ohs
or
excuse
me,
dnd
and
gbls.
The
rent
increases
the
state
staying
the
same.
The
increase
in
funding
as
proposed
right
now
makes
sense
to
me
to
go
to
ten
thousand
into
fifteen
thousand
dollars
out.
There
is
a
question
of
whether
you
want
to
add
in
a
padded
amount
for
folks
who
have
to
leave
boston
and
how
that
could
happen.
A
A
Just
now
I
mean
even
trying
to
do
a
refinance.
I
don't
know
if
you've
tried
to
get
in
line
for
that
unless
the
banks
are
overwhelmed
and
it's
hard
and
it's
it's
hard
right
now,
so
a
little
more
time
would
be
helpful
reduction
in
total
unit
demolished
and
replaced
for
condo.
The
tenant
has
a
right
to
purchase
in
the
building,
even
if
their
particular
unit
is
gone.
A
Great,
condo
conversion
permitting
system
the
that
whole
entire
system
would
be
added
and
basically
puts
the
onus
on
the
landlord,
like
any
other
move
that
they
want
to
make
for
their
building.
A
This
is
another
one
that
they
would
have
to
go
before
isd
and
make
sure
they
comply
with
the
law,
and
they
would
be
fined
if
they're
not,
and
it
would
certainly
fill
in
the
gap
for
the
building
clear
out,
excuse
that
too
many
of
them
got
away
with
beforehand
the
right
now
as
it's
written,
it
would
apply
only
to
four
units,
but
technically
it
seems
to
be
open
a
little
bit
more
and
tim,
and
I
were
discussing
if
we
wanted
that
to
be
a
different
notification,
it
might
need
to
be
a
different
ordinance.
A
A
Okay;
okay,
that
notification.
A
E
A
All
right,
so
those
are
the
major
summaries,
as
I
recall
and
as
I
see-
and
I
am
I'm
happy
with
what's
proposed
right
now
and
plus
the
at
least
the
60
years
and
the
120
days.
A
I
understand
the
increase
in
the
funding
beyond
the
10
and
15
000
might
be
need
to
check
to
see
if
that
relocation
distance
is,
is
a
qualifier.
A
A
qualifier
and
then
the
separate
ordinance
for
the
two
to
three
so
for
my
or
my
colleagues,
you
know
just
to
let
you
know
this
is
something
that
is
just.
It
is
a
massive.
This
is
a
huge
deal
to
get
all
of
these
things
and
to
get
them
done,
and
so
my
goal
would
be
to
get
the
language
tightened
up
on
this
as
soon
as
possible.
A
On
the
things
we
can't
agree
on
right
and
the
things
that
we
I
don't
know
that
there's
disagreement,
it's
just
a
matter
of
if
we
can
go
as
far
as
we'd
like,
but
at
least
get
this
done,
and
so
that
we
could
pass
it.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
get
it
done
by
the
21st
a
week
less
than
a
week
from
now,
but
at
least
says
tim
says
no,
but
you.
F
A
E
Yeah
yeah
and
there
were
some
fairly
small
other
changes
in
this.
For
example,
we
even
talked
about
this
last
year
about
there
were
little
glitches.
There
was
a
bad
housing
court
decision.
We
were
going
to
clean
up
some
of
the
language
on
things
like
just
cause.
Things
like
that
that
that's
in
this
as
well.
A
So
to
my
colleagues,
I'm
going
to
just
throw
it
out
there
if
you
want
to
raise
your
blue
hand
for
concluding
remarks,
but
I
think
we've
we've
done
the
work,
we're
just
going
to
get
now
to
writing
it
out
so
go
here.
We
go
two
hands
blue
hands
in
the
air
council,
braden
and
then
councilor
mejia.
D
I
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
their
work
on
this.
This
is
a
hugely.
I
agree.
It's
a
hugely
important
issue,
and
this
is
a
a
great
remedy
that
we're
working
on,
and
hopefully
we
get
it
done
nice
and
quickly
with
a
lot
cancer
edwards.
There's
a
lot
of
ducks
lined
up
here,
so
we
get
it
done
quickly.
Thank
you
so
much.
H
Councillor
mejia
yeah,
so
I
also
wanted
to
just
give
you
council
edwards
a
shout
out
and
tim
and
mack
both
how
y'all
too,
for
your
work
in
this.
This
is
really
exciting
and
also,
I
have
to
say
it's
very
educational,
so
I
think
for
folks
who
don't
know
how
things
get
done.
Just
even
being
part
of
this
process
helps
people
understand
how
the
city
is
working
with
them
and
for
them
right.
H
I
think
that
this
getting
this
approved
could
really
help
a
lot
of
people,
so
I'm
glad
that
I
was
able
to
witness
it
and
happy
to
support
it.
So
thank
you
for
your
hard
work
on
this.
Thank.