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Docket #0225 - Ordinance to create the Special Commission on Ending Family Homelessness
A
B
It's
a
working
session,
so
it's
really
just
about
updates
and
what
we're
going
to
go
for
no
expert
testimony
really
just
kind
of
how
we
form
it
all
right,
then.
So,
let's
I'm
going
to
pull
up
my
opening
statement
and
get
started
all
right,
we're
officially
starting
the
hearing
today.
Good
morning,
everyone,
I'm
city,
council,
lydia,
edwards,
chair
of
the
committee
on
government
operations.
It
is
thursday
october
1st
and
we're
here
today
for
a
virtual
working
session
on
docket
0225
ordinance
to
create
a
special
commission
on
ending
family
homelessness.
B
This
matter
was
sponsored
by
councillor
nisa
sabi
george,
and
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
january
29
2020.
The
committee
held
a
hearing
on
september
14th,
I
say
january
yeah,
okay,
in
accordance
with
governor
baker's
march
12th
executive
order.
We
need.
We
are
balancing
both
the
public
needs
for
safety,
but
also
the
ability
for
us
to
do
our
job
and
he's
adjusted
the
open
meeting
law
and,
as
a
result,
we're
having
this
working
session
on
zoom.
You
can
watch
this
working
session
at
www.boston.gov
city
council
dash
tv.
B
It
will
be
rebroadcasted
on
comcast
8,
rcn82,
verizon,
verizon
1964.
for
any
public
testimony.
Written
comments
may
be
sent
to
ccc
dot,
go
at
boston.gov
and
will
be
made
a
part
of
the
official
records.
Document0225
would
establish
a
commission
to
develop
an
actionable
measurable
plan
to
end
family
homelessness
in
the
city
of
boston.
B
B
At
our
hearing
we
heard
testimony
from
various
individuals
within
the
administration
and
expert
stakeholders
from
various
organizations.
The
committee
discussed
the
objectives
of
ending
family
homelessness,
the
adverse
impacts
of
family
homelessness.
The
committee
also
discussed
available
resources
afforded
by
the
city
currently
including
bhe,
affordable
housing,
vouchers
for
homeless
families
in
boston,
public
schools
and
preventative
programs.
The
committee
also
discussed
the
family-led
stability
pilot
program,
which
includes
seven
schools
with
the
goal
of
ending
homelessness
in
boston
schools.
B
The
committee
and
participants
expressed
genuine
and
honest
support
for
establishing
the
commission
and
to
achieve
and
the
goals
of
the
commission
joining
us
today
from
the
administration
is
courtney
trudell
assistant,
director
of
supportive
housing
of
dnd.
We
also
will
probably
be
later
joined
by
tim,
david
davis,
deputy
director
of
policy
at
dnd.
B
We
also
have
I
or
will
be
having
possibly
christy
staples,
vice
president
of
mine,
the
gap
united
math
united
way
of
massachusetts,
daniel
ferrier,
ceo
of
what
are
my
notes,
heading
home
and
larry
siemens,
president
of
family
aid,
boston,
I'm
going
to
now
turn
it
over
out
for
excuse
me
before.
I
turn
it
over
to
the
lead
sponsor
to
kind
of
direct
the
agenda
of
today's
working
session.
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
my
colleagues
who
are
here
with
me,
along
with
lead
sponsor
counselor
at
large
and
mississabi.
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
think
everyone
who's
here
with
us
this
morning
to
sort
of
roll
up
our
sleeves
and
and
edit
and
work
on
this
commission
ordinance
so
that
we
can
move
on
it.
My
hopes
for
today,
just
for
this
session,
madam
chair,
are
that
we
get
through
some
of
these,
the
sort
of
thematics
around
the
any
text
changes
and
whether
or
not
we
fine-tune
them
fine-tune
them
today.
That's
not
as
important.
I
think
we
can
do
that
offline.
A
But
we
also
recognize
it
as
being
an
important,
an
important
element
to
be
able
to
to
compensate
them
for
their
time,
and
I
think
maybe
courtney
from
dnd
can
talk
about
that
a
little
bit.
So
that's
that's
that
and
then
also
an
understanding
of
how
and
perhaps
a
conversation
around
how
some
invitation
to
the
special
commission
will
work,
especially
around
some
of
the
state,
the
state
partners
in
this
work,
because
they
are
critical
to
be
a
part
of
a
part
of
this
commission
as
well.
So
so
that's
it
for
me.
A
B
Thank
you.
So
what
we
could
do,
if
you,
if
it
seems
appropriate,
is
just
go
right
to
each
each
of
the
guest
panelists
we
can.
I
mean
we
could
ask
to
see
if
anybody
would
like
to
make
any
opening
statements
of
my
colleagues,
but
we
could
also
you
know
just
go
right
to
the
expert
panelists
or
stakeholder
panelists
and
see
if
they
have
any
immediate
response
or
reaction
to
the
language
of
the
ordinance
or
and
then
also
I
have
some
genuine
questions
too,
for
you
about
the
ordinance
and
we
could
just
do
that.
B
Does
that
make
sense
perfect?
Thank
you.
Okay.
So
we'll
start
I've
seen
we've
been
joined
by
tim
and
courtney,
so
why
don't
we
go
ahead
and
start
with
the
administration
with
any
of
your
thought?
Excuse
me:
I
apologize
my
colleagues.
If
any
of
you
had
any
brief
statements,
we
could
start
it
would
be
a
counselor
flynn.
Then
braden,
then
bach.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
edwards.
I'll,
be
very
brief.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
counselor
sabi
george
for
sponsoring
this
ordinance
and
council
edwards
for
sharing
this
working
session
working
session.
Having
actionable
plans
that
can
help
us
and
family
homelessness
in
boston
is
something
that
I
think
we
all
support.
C
I
know
having
a
special
commission,
we
can
come
together
and
coordinate
plans
and
come
up
with
ideas
is
a
great
way
to
do
that.
Having
stable
housing
is
critical
to
all
families
and
children,
as
we
continue
to
face
a
housing
crisis
in
boston
and
with
the
pandemic,
impacting
our
economy
and
employment.
We're
going
to
see
more
and
more
families
facing
homeless
homelessness
later
on.
C
D
Thank
you,
counselor
edwards.
This
is
a
hugely
important
issue.
I'm
not
going
to
take
a
whole
lot
of
time.
The
the
big
concerns
I
have
are
really
to
streamline
our
systems,
improve
our
the
the
section
8
process.
Also
in
neighborhoods
like
ours,
there's
a
huge
lots
of
family
size
units
are
being
rented
out
at
a
very
high
rental,
so
also
to
try
and
explore
ways
to
incentivize
landlords
to
rent
to
families.
D
E
B
F
Hi,
this
is
tim
davis,
I'm
deputy
director
for
policy
development
and
research
at
the
department
of
neighborhood
development.
We
are
very
pleased
to
be
here
today.
This
is
such
an
important
issue
for
the
work
of
our
department,
but
also
for
the
city
as
a
whole,
and
it
is
our
supportive
housing
division
that
does
all
the
yeoman's
labor
of
working
on
this
issue.
F
G
We
do
have
some
comments
in
regards
to
some
pieces
of
the
language
overall,
given
the
inequities
that
are
playing
out
in
our
emergency
shelter
system
on
the
individual
side
as
well
as
the
family
side,
it
seemed
appropriate
that
the
ordinance
would
make
mention
or
acknowledge
some
of
those
inequities
in
either
the
membership
of
the
commission
or
in
the
charge
of
the
commission
as
they're.
Looking
at
some
of
those
system-wide
gaps.
G
And
then,
finally,
I
think
there's
an
opportunity,
as
in
the
membership
composition,
also
in
the
duties
and
responsibilities,
to
also
highlight
the
continued
coordination
with
the
continuum
of
care,
so
that
those
the
commission
and
the
continuing
of
care
are
working
together
in
concert
to
fund
the
programs.
That
commission
will
find
to
be
most
successful
and
then
long
term
be
able
to
support
these
programs
through
some
of
our
federal
resources.
B
B
A
B
A
B
H
I'm
sure
thank
you
all
for
for
having
me
and
having
me
join
the
discussion.
You
know
if
we're
in
terms
of
the
language
and
the
edits,
those
all
make
sense.
The
the
one
question
I
would
have
courtney
is
in
context
of
the
reimbursement.
I
would
definitely
recommend
that
we
consider
a
possible
support
around
child
care
for
families,
given
that's
a
bit
different
than
we
would
see
for
individuals
and
for
some
of
our
young
adults,
although
that
definitely
on
the
special
commission
for
homeless
young
adults,
we
saw
that
as
a
barrier
as
well.
H
I
Just
a
note
to
you
that
one
of
the
major
concerns
for
many
of
the
service
providers
at
the
round
table
is
the
focus
actually
on
children's
services
and
in
the
conversation
we
do
know,
there
are
tremendous
number
of
advocates
for
housing,
which
is
a
core
element
of
homelessness.
But
underneath
that
is
a
true
need
for
us
to
understand
the
necessary
resources
relative
to
children's
supports
the
agencies
who
are
represented
here
today,
plus
horizons
for
homeless.
I
Children
have
already
begun
a
review
of
city
services,
we've
identified
47
city
services
that
are
directly
connected
to
the
needs
of
children
who
are
living
at
poverty
or
who
are
homeless,
and
we're
encouraged
to
see
that
the
ordinance
has
language
would
like
to
make
sure
that
the
needs
of
children
in
particular
are
brought
to
the
forefront
versus
just
families.
So,
thank
you
for
your
time.
G
Yeah,
I
I
it's
an
excellent
point
and
a
a
good
idea
and
not
something
that
we
have
built
into
our
stipend
compensation
so
far
and-
and
I
think
it's
something
that
we
certainly
can
consider-
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
we
would
operationalize
it
because
of
the
federal
funding
that
I
would
potentially
be
paying
for.
But
I
do
think
that
there
are
opportunities
to
either
increase
the
stipend.
G
H
A
Excellent-
and
I
would
I
would
think,
madam
chair,
that
that's
really
important
to
note
somewhere,
I
don't
know
whether
or
not
that's
incorporated
into
the
ordinance
itself.
I
think
the
compensation
piece
should
be
incorporated
into
the
ordinance
without
perhaps
including
a
dollar
amount
at
this
point,
but
I
think
the
child's
care
should
be
a
stipulation
sort
of
part
of
the
operating
guidelines
of
the
commission,
but
not
necessarily
part
of
the
the
ordinance
itself.
B
So
I
I
was
actually
texting
back
with
our
city
council
attorney
to
figure
out
how
that
would
work
in
terms
of
and
and
we
and
just
for
everybody.
We
need
to
be
clear
on
all
of
the
terms
that
we're
using
I'm
hearing
compensation,
I'm
hearing
reimbursement
and
I'm
hearing
stipend
and
all
three
have
different
legal
meanings
right.
So
compensation
in
terms
of
a
salary
is
is
different
and
I
don't
know
that
we
could
put
that
in
the
statute,
so
much
reimbursement
that
might
not
need
a
statute.
B
That
could
just
be
something
that's
part
of
the
regulations
that
come
with
the
commission
and
then
in
terms
of
the
stipend.
I
know
that
the
boston
zoning
commission
and
the
boston
vba
both
they
have
stipends,
I
think
daily,
stipends
and
also
if
they
go
on
site.
So
I
think
of
the
three
I
I
don't
have
I'm
not
hearing
consensus
as
to
which
absolute
one
we
want
and
then
also
just
to
echo
what
danielle
said
you
know,
the
the
these
streams
of
funding
will
also
determine
what
you
who
can
get
them.
B
So
if
you're
reliant
on
federal
dollars,
we
do
have
undocumented
or
mixed
status,
homeless,
families
you
know
so
so
that
also
determines
and
could
limit
who
can
be
at
the
table.
So
I
think
it's
really
important
for
us
to
figure
out
a
loop,
not
a
loophole,
but
a
general
way
of
discussing
how
people
can
participate
with
financial
assistance
kind
of
as
an
umbrella
term,
within
the
statute
or
within
the
ordinance,
leaving
us
enough
will
room
to
continue
to
discuss
what
this
is
going
to
be
again.
B
B
Oh
or
federal,
if
they're
getting
disability
they're
capped
at
how
much
they
can
make
I've
had
summer
interns
almost
lose
their
housing
because
they
came
from
public
housing
and
they
made
too
much
working
for
me
that
it
increased
their
family
income
that
summer
that
we
had
to
write
a
letter,
because
I
wanted
to
pay
all
my
input
anyway.
So
I
we
don't
want
to
make
the
situation
worse.
J
J
I
don't
have
much
more
to
add
other
than
I
do
really
think
that
the
racial
framing
is
going
to
be
very
important
for
us
to
make
sure
is
connected
to
the
current
coc
or
with
the
draft
that
the
coc
in
the
city
of
boston
is
actually
putting
together,
and
I
will
also
say
that
the
housing
component,
as
courtney
mentioned
in
her
testimony,
is
going
to
also
be
a
an
additional
value.
Add
to
this.
So
thank
you
for
for
all
of
your
work
and
I
look
forward
to
getting
into
it.
J
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
think
that
this
conversation
so
far
has
already
been
very
helpful
and
the
question
I
have
for
every
the
panels.
That's
here
today,
but
also
my
colleagues
to
inform,
is
I've
sort
of
prescribed
through
our
work
with
the
shelter
providers,
a
list
of
who
we
think
the
members
should
be,
and
I
think
that
some
of
the
suggestions
this
morning
for
additional
members
is
very
thoughtful
and
I
think
important
to
include
so
I
want.
A
The
other
thing
I
don't
want
to
prevent
is
an
unwieldy
sized
commission
that
becomes
too
large.
So
you
know
I
am
absolutely
open
to
suggestion
around
either
reducing
the
size
or
eliminating
certain
recommended
members,
understanding
that
we've
put
a
lot
of
thought
into
that.
But
I
do
think
that
you
know
including
whether
it's
some
advocacy
groups
or
housing
partners
on
the
employment
part
providers.
I
think
that's
also
really
important.
A
So
if
we
want
to
have
sort
of
a
robust
conversation
about
who's,
a
member
and
why
and
then
the
additional
component
to
that
is
of
those
groups.
For
example,
we
want-
and
this
is
actually
a
piece
that
isn't
negotiable
for
me,
but
we
want
three
members
of
our
family
shelter
providers
to
be
at
the
table
that
that's
really
important
to
me
that
their
voice
continues
to
be
play
a
loud
role
in
this
work.
A
But
one
thing
that
we
need
to
do
with
the
family
shelter
at
the
round
table
we're
in
sort
of
an
ad
hoc.
You
know
we
came
together,
we're
very
much
organized
and
very
much
structured,
but
we're
not
a
formal
organization.
So
we
would
need
to
as
a
round
table
sort
of
formalize
some
of
our
proceedings
and
then
formalize
the
process
in
which
three
of
those
members
would
be
designated
to
the
commission
and
that's
something
that
we
would
need
any
one
of
these.
These
seats
commission
seats
to
also
identify.
A
How
would
the
boston
delegation
identify
the
state
representative?
How
would
the
boston
delegation
represent
identify
the
the
state
senator
to
sit
on
this
commission,
so
I'm
open
to
a
discussion
around
those
seats
and
who
sort
of
owns
those
seats
and
then
the
process
by
which
we're
asking
them
to
identify
and
share
with
the
with
the
the
commission
how
those
appointments
would
be
made.
B
B
A
B
A
My
my
other
question,
though
too,
that's
right,
and
I
appreciate
that.
I
think
that
that's
a
you
know,
perhaps
that
listing
is
the
way
to
do
it.
I
don't
know,
I
don't
think
that
that
ends
up
in
the
ordinance.
I
think
that
that's
part
of
the
procedures,
or
maybe
it
maybe
it
is
part
of
the
ordinance
the
but
the
other
question
I
have
for
the
for
the
larger
group
here
with
us
today
is:
are
these
the
right
positions?
Are
these
the
right
spots
and
or
the
designee?
A
H
A
So
a
larger
commission
is
okay,
because
then
they'll
be
working
commissions
that
are
slightly
smaller
rolled
up.
Slaves
focused
on
different
areas
and
thinking
about
sort
of
the
charge,
the
responsibilities
and
the
authority
that
what
larry
was
talking
about
earlier.
The
12
16
3
identify
discern
conduct
and
gen
like
that
sort
of
what
what
the
committees
would
lead
to
that
work.
I
see
larry
nodding
his
head,
yeah.
H
H
Deliverable
would
need
to
be
formed
very
fast
out
of
the
gate
right,
you
need
to
know
what
are
the
buckets
that
are
the
working
groups
and
if
there
are
people
that
are
not
sitting
on
the
actual
governing
body
of
the
special
commission,
ideally
you
bring
them
into
the
working
groups
to
expand
your
expertise
right
and
and
so
that
it
would
allow
you
to
have
multiple
buckets
of
providers
different
folks
at
the
table,
that's
even
bigger
than
the
governing
body.
If
that
was,
that
was
one
I
mean
you
could
argue.
H
The
other
way
to
do
is
have
a
bigger
governing
body
that
gets
a
little
bit
harder,
sometimes
in
some
of
the
special
commissions
I've
seen.
But
but
I
understand
why
you
want
that
too.
So
I
think
there's
a
couple
ways
to
structure
it
operationally.
That
could
get
you
the
wide
net
of
different
industries
and
expertise,
but
still
be
manageable
and
productive.
B
H
I
So,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
as
a
following
up
on
danielle's
comment,
a
model,
maybe
for
consideration
would
be
the
very,
very
effective
model
that
the
department
of
neighborhood
development
used
for
unaccompanied
youth
that
basically
utilized
the
structure
that
danielle
had
just
talked
about
where
there
was
kind
of
a
coordinating
group,
and
then
there
were
breakout
and
workout
working
sessions
for
different
elements
of
unaccompanied
youth
needs
for
homelessness.
I
B
L
B
Thank
you.
If
I
may
questions
to
the
chair-
and
I
guess
everybody
some
just
incorporating
your
ideas
and
thoughts,
I
noticed
in
the
in
the
language
we
have
60
days
before
the
commission
would
actually
meet.
Would
it
make
sense
to
say
within
45
days
the
regulations
shall
be
produced
wherein
you
can
create
the
working
groups,
their
their
specific
charges.
I
assume
also
like
the
the
following
working
groups
shall
also
be
established
and
they
will
meet
more
frequently
than
because
they,
the
the
big
group,
meets
quarterly.
B
They
can
meet.
You
know
every
other
week.
The
big
group
ultimately's
job
is
the
regulations
can
also
address
the
compensation
and,
finally,
what
their,
what
the
deliverables
are
from
the
working
groups,
the
larger
the
reg
can
also
the
larger
group
meets
regularly
to
make
the
final
decisions
off
the
recommendations
from
the
working
groups
and
saying
this
is
quarterly.
We
have
decided
on
the
following
things
and
that
that
way,
it's
a
they're
they're
constantly
feeding
into
and
working
and
can
move
much
faster.
Honestly,
let's
speak
it's
between
working
groups.
B
A
C
Well
well,
thank
you
councilwoman
george.
Thank
you,
council
edwards.
I
just
wanted
to
add.
Maybe
for
your
consideration
is
a
lot
of
veterans
are
homeless
and
they're
a
huge
increase
now
nationally,
maybe
not
in
boston
but
nationally
women,
veteran
that
are
homeless
and
trying
to
get
their
custody
of
their
children.
C
B
E
No,
I'm
here,
sorry,
no,
I
I
don't
have
a
question
at
this
time.
I've
been
sort
of
looking
at
it
and
trying
to
think
through
some
of
the
same
things.
Folks
are
wondering
about
about
what
I
I
just
think.
I
think
the
dominant
thing
for
us
to
keep
in
mind
here
is
that
what
counselor
sabe
george
has
proposed
is
you
know
a
special
commission
with
a
limited
time
horizon
whose
goal
is
really
to
like
put
an
actionable
plan
into
practice.
E
So
I
just
think
like
the
number
like
given
that
format
it
does
it
like
what
strikes
me.
It's
almost
like
I,
I
heard
the
useful
suggestion
about
working
groups
and
I
think,
certainly
for
creating
subgroups.
That
can
be
helpful,
but
it's
also
to
me,
like
nobody,
should
be
on
this,
who
isn't
being
asked
to
like
roll
up
their
sleeves
and
be
actively
involved,
because
it's
not
like
a
kind
of
thing
where
we're
anticipating
that
it
will
just
run
for
decades
and-
and
you
know
somebody
might
want
to
have
somebody
officially
on
the
list.
E
A
Thank
you
yeah.
I
mean
there
was
some
question.
There
was
some
conversation
around
the
five-year
limit
and
we
I
mean,
I
think
everyone
knows
and
we,
as
at
the
roundtable
level
when
we
were
discussing
and
sort
of
drafting
this.
We
know
that
we're
not
going
to
end
family
homelessness
in
five
years.
That's
certainly
our
goal
in
our
hope,
but
by
setting
the
time
limit
it
really
it.
A
I
think
it
motivates
us
and
it
keeps
us
sort
of
with
that
actionable
plan,
because
we
have
very
specific
timelines
in
which
to
accomplish
certain
things
and
at
year
four
and
a
half.
I
hope
that
we
have
eliminated
it
or
we're
discussing
discussing
a
way
to
dissolve
this
commission,
but
I
imagine
at
that
point
we
may.
I
hope
that
we've
had
so
many
accomplishments
that
we've
then
started
to
adjust
the
way
that
we're
doing
that
work.
B
K
K
B
A
Some
advocacy
groups,
housing
partners
and
employment
providers
or
workforce
sort
of
development
providers,
as
opposed
as
potential
seats.
I
think
the
other
piece
that's
probably
important
to
discuss
too
is
the
role
in
whether
or
not
we
articulate
into
this
ordinance
the
role
of
the
family
advisor
on
or
the
advisor
on,
family
homelessness.
A
B
So
justin
and
we've
also
been
joined
by
counselor
kim
janey,
but
just
to
be
clear,
I'm
just
keeping
also
my
I'm
sure
you
are
too
counselor.
Assabe
george,
but
I
have
a
veteran
feet
or
veteran
perspective
suggested
by
councillor
flynn.
Housing
advocates
suggested
by
courtney,
workforce
and
housing
also
being
suggested
by
courtney,
and
then
I'm
missing.
G
H
B
H
A
B
Counselor
janie
just
to
bring
you
up,
we
were
just
literally
going
through
the
ordinance
itself
and
making
suggestions
for
who
could
sit
on
the
commission.
Making
suggestions
for
you
know
talking
about
compensation
of
the
members
and
that's
it's
a
free-flowing
conversation.
I
want
to
give
you
the
opportunity
to
introduce
yourself
and
add
any
thoughts.
M
So
much
madam
chair
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
and
extend
my
gratitude
to
the
maker.
This
is
really
important
since
I'm
coming
in
late.
I
will
continue
to
listen
on.
I
may
have
to
jump
off
early,
but
I'm
glad
to
see
that
this
conversation
is
continuing
and
will
contribute.
However,
I
can
and
support.
However,
I
can
thank
you.
B
G
It
certainly
could
could
be
one.
I
didn't
want
to
be
so
prescriptive
in
in
the
suggestion.
I
think-
and
there
may
be
some
that
are
currently
serving
on
the
round
table
that
may
as
counselor
somebody
george
had
mentioned
as
that
gets
formalized.
Maybe
that
gets
lifted
up,
but
metro
housing,
boston,
new
lease
is
also
a
solid
partner
in
this
space,
and
there
are
some
other
housing
developers
that
have
been
very
active
in
building
housing,
family
housing
in
the
city.
B
B
K
F
We
have
started
the
hiring
approval
process,
hiring
approval
process
for
the
family
advisor,
but
this
could
take
a
few
months
to
get
this
new
staff
person
on
board
to
convene
the
group.
So
we
are
suggesting
that
maybe
this
convenience
with
60
days
after
they're
higher-
maybe
it
could
be
45
days.
But
I
think
that
we
are
concerned
that
this
committee,
this
commission,
would
be
staffed
properly
from
the
start.
A
A
You
know
continue
to
be
a
priority
of
the
administration,
but
I
think,
having
that
role
filled
elevates
certainly
elevates
the
conversation.
What
I
may,
what
I
might
suggest,
madam
chair,
is
perhaps
you
know
taking
all
of
this
feedback
in
these
notes,
and
then
perhaps
I
could
meet
with
some
of
the
key.
The
the
the
key
players
in
sort
of
drafting
of
this
get
back
go
back
to
the
not
to
the
drawing
board
for
sure,
but
take
all
of
this
feedback
and
really
inform
this
ordinance.
A
Maybe
outline
and
draft
some
of
those
the
language
around
the
working
groups,
the
language
around
the
days,
the
language
around
the
membership
and
including
you
know
what
was
suggested
today
and
then
perhaps
come
back.
Maybe
we
do
need
one
more
brief
working
session.
I
think
today,
if,
if
we
are
sort
of
getting
to
the
point
where
we're
gonna
wrap
up
this
conversation,
if
we
could
schedule
another
one
hour
working
session
in
a
week
or
two,
I
think
we'll
be
in
a
really
good
spot
to
finalize
this.
For
the
body.
B
Absolutely
happy
to
do
that
and
we'll
incorporate
all
these
suggestions
and
have
that
out.
Okay,
so
with
that,
if
anyone
has
any
other
suggestions
or
comments,
we
will
then
have
a
subsequent
working
session.
So
you
can
digest
all
of
this
look
at
what's
been
proposed
and
then,
in
that
working
session
kind
of
finalize
it.
A
The
only
remarks
I'll
say
is
in
my
opening
remarks.
I
was
hopeful
that
we'd
wrap
it
up
today,
but
I'm
not
disappointed
that
we
have
it.
I
think
that
today's
feedback
and
conversation
was
really
very
helpful
and
I'll
make
sure
that
we
that
I
reconvene
my
sort
of
smaller
group
to
go
through
these
recommendations
to
to
edit
the
ordinance
as
it's
been
presented
and
come
back
in
again
in
less
than
an
hour.
I
think
we
can
get
through
get
through
what
we
need
to
in
in
a
in
one
more
working
session.