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From YouTube: Committee on Public Health on October 5, 2020
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Docket #0747 - Hearing regarding the status of college and university plans to reopen for Fall 2020 amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
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A
B
A
Okay,
so
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
begin.
Let
me
just
start
now.
My
name
is
ricardo
arroyo,
I'm
the
district
five
city
councilor,
I'm
the
chair
of
the
boston
city
council
committee
on
public
health,
I'm
joined
by
my
colleagues,
councilor
ed
flynn,
counselor
kim
janey,
counselor
liz,
braden,
counselor,
anissa,
isabe
george,
and
I
believe
that
that's
it.
For
now
we
have
one
other
counselor,
counselor
bach
who's.
A
co-sponsor
on
this
she's
in
another
meeting,
she'll
be
joining
us
momentarily.
A
She
apologizes
for
for
her
tardiness,
but
can
be
avoided.
This
hearing
is
being
recorded
in
livestream.boston.gov
city
council
tv.
It
will
be
rebroadcast
on
comcast
channel
8,
rcn
channel
82
verizon
channel
1964,
the
zoom
link
to
provide
public
testimony
for
this
hearing
can
be
found
by
emailing
shane
pack.
That's
s-h-a-n-e,
dot,
p-a-c
boston.gov!
A
Please
make
sure
that
your
zoom
handle
is
your
full
name
when
you
are
called
please
state
your
name
and
affiliation,
slash
residence
and
limit
your
comments
to
two
minutes
to
ensure
that
all
comments
and
concerns
can
be
heard.
If
you
are
unable
to
provide
testimony
today,
you
may
submit
written
testimony
emailing
the
committee
at
ccc.health,
boston.gov
or
filling
out
the
form
on
our
website
within
48
hours
of
following
following
the
hearing.
A
This
is
the
second
meeting
we
had
a
prior
hearing
on
this
prior
to
their
reopening
and
now
they've
that
they've
reopened
we're
being
joined
again
to
go
over
that.
I
just
want
to
note
that
counselor
campbell
has
joined
us.
What
we're
gonna
do
here
is,
if
you
were
at
the
last
hearing,
it
was
a
five
hour
long
hearing.
It
was
incredibly
long
and
thank
you
so
much
to
I
know,
bu
and
harvard
mark
hanley
and
mr
ryan.
A
Both
stayed
until
the
very
end
of
that
to
answer
questions,
we're
gonna.
Do
it
a
little
different
this
time?
My
hope
is
that
it
increases
both
the
speed
and
efficiency
of
this,
and
so
what
we're
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
allow
every
panelist
to
give
an
opening
statement
immediately
and
then
we
will
break
the
question
and
answer
session
into
panels
so
in
other
words,
every
panelist
who
is
here
to
speak,
I'm
going
to
give
you
three
minutes
to
give
an
opening
and
then
we
will
open
it
up
to
the
panels.
A
The
way
we
would
have
done
it
last
hearing
was
every
college
basically
had
a
panel
we'll
still
panel
the
questions,
so
you
can
ask
so
basically
we'll
say
this
is
for
the
administration.
This
is
for
northeastern.
This
is
for
bu.
You
can
still
do
it
that
way,
but
the
opening
statements
everybody's
going
to
be
able
to
do
that
immediately
and
we
have
been
told
of
some
time
constraints
and
so
in
that
instance,
we'll
we'll
handle
that
immediately
as
well.
At
this
time.
A
I
want
to
give
the
floor
over
to
the
lead
sponsors
of
this
ordinance.
Not
sorry,
not
this
ordinance
of
this
hearing
order.
That's
councillor
braden,
councillor
janie
and
if
councillor
bach
gets
here
in
the
midst
of
that,
she'll
also
be
able
to
go.
But
at
this
time
I'd
like
to
give
councillor
braden
the
floor
for
a
few
opening
statements.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Councillor
royal.
I
welcome
the
opportunity
to
meet
or
hear
what
the
representatives
from
their
different
universities
have
in
terms
of
an
update
on
their
status
of
their
coven
preparations.
How
successful
they
have
been
any
pitfalls
or
challenges
that
they've
encountered,
and
also
maybe
some
plans
going
forward.
C
I
under,
as
you
may
imagine
this
is
a
very
important
issue
in
our
in
my
neighborhood,
my
district
district
9.
We
have
harvard
university
bu
students
and
and
boston
college
students
residents
in
our
neighborhood,
and
it's
a
great
concern
to
our
residents
that
we
continue
to
be
very
diligent
in
in
observing
public
health
recommendations
and
restricting
the
spread
of
this
virus
as
far
as
possible.
So
I
look
forward
to
the
conversation.
Thank
you.
D
Yes,
thank
you
so
much.
Mr
chairman,
I
just
want
to
extend
my
gratitude
to
you,
as
well
as
my
co-sponsors
on
this,
my
sister's
in
service,
counselor,
braden
and
counselor
bach.
I
want
to
thank
the
administration,
want
to
thank
the
colleges
and
universities
who
were
present
last
time,
as
well
as
those
who
are
joining
again
or
for
the
first
time
today
very
important
conversation
to
have.
D
My
district
has
a
lot
of
college
students
because
of
the
universities
there
we
have
wentworth,
we
have
roxbury
community
college
northeastern
is
probably
the
largest
institution
in
in
my
district,
and
this
isn't
just
about
the
safety
of
students
and
the
safety
of
staff.
We
certainly
care
deeply
about
that,
but
it
is
a
larger
community
and
the
impact
on
the
larger
community.
So
I'm
grateful
for
the
opportunity
to
continue
this
important
conversation.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
Thank
you,
and
so
here's
for
folks
that
just
joined
us
on
the
council
side,
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
that
we've
been
joined
by
counselor
wu
as
as
well
as
counselor
mejia,
and
so
here's
how
we're
gonna
do
this
next
portion,
I'm
going
to
introduce
all
of
our
speakers
and
allow
them
to
go
in
order
of
introduction.
I'll
just
say
it's
your
turn.
We're
gonna
give
you
three
minutes.
A
A
As
far
as
my
fellow
colleagues
on
the
council,
if
you
have
an
opening
statement
and
you
can't
stay-
and
you
need
to
jump
in
at
some
point
to
make-
or
you
know
just
a
statement
that
you
would
like
to
make
raise
your
blue
hand,
but
I'd
like
to
try
and
keep
this
economical.
So
if
you
can
save
that
for
your
question
portion,
that
would
be
great.
But
if
you
have
to
leave
to
something
else,
just
raise
your
blue
hand
once
I
see
it
I'll
I'll
make
you
the
next
speaker.
A
E
Thank
you,
council,
royale
into
the
sponsors.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
college
and
university
officials
that
are
here.
I
also
have
several
colleges
in
my
district
and
it's
critical
that
the
colleges
and
universities
continue
to
work
with
the
residents
of
that
neighborhood
to
make
sure
that
the
students
that
are
living
there
are
behaving
themselves
and
not
having
these
super
spreading
events
that
we
we
have
seen
across
the
country.
E
So
again,
I
know
we
have
a
very
dedicated
and
professional
group
of
college
administrators
that
are
here
and
they're
also
concerned
about
the
health
of
the
residents
of
boston.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you.
I
also
see
dr
lowe
from
the
public
health
commission.
That
does
a
tremendous
job
as
well.
So
no
questions
for
me,
but
thank
you,
council
arroyo
and
thank
you
to
the
sponsors.
A
A
G
Thank
you
so
much
chairman
arroyo
and
thank
you
to
the
sponsors
of
the
hearing
order,
including
my
district
city,
councillor,
counselor,
breeden
and
counselor
bach,
who
also
co-sponsored
and,
of
course,
council,
president
janie
and
everyone
else
who
is
here
today
for
this
reconvened
hearing.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
provide
again
the
council,
an
update
with
harvard's
fall
semester
to
discuss
our
lessons
learned
and
our
planning
considerations
for
the
upcoming
spring
semester
throughout
the
coven
pandemic.
Harvard
has
been
guided
by
a
consistent
core
set
of
principles.
G
G
G
This
testing
has
been
extended
to
off-campus
harvard
college
students
in
proximate
communities
and
for
the
full
testing
data
across
all
of
harvard
university,
including
almost
ninety
thousand
tests.
So
far,
please
visit
our
university
dashboard
at
harvard.edu,
slash
coronavirus
and
it
is
updated
daily
as
we
begin
to
consider
what
our
campus
will
look
like
in
the
spring.
G
We
know
that
our
planning
approach
needs
to
continue
to
be
nimble
to
allow
for
us
to
respond
to
ongoing
changes
in
real
time,
we're
always
working
to
thoughtfully,
adopt
protocols
and
plans
that
can
be
flexible
and
assist
us
as
we
plan
for
the
unknown
throughout
this
unprecedented
time.
As
the
fall
semester
comes
to
an
end,
the
majority
of
students
currently
on
campus
will
depart
campus
for
thanksgiving
break
and
the
majority
will
not
return
for
the
remainder
of
the
calendar
year.
Our
approach
to
the
spring
semester
was
a
lit
originally
laid
out.
G
In
july,
we
outlined
three
potential
scenarios,
accounting
for
a
lower,
a
moderate
and
a
higher
density
on
campus.
This
spring,
we
anticipate
a
decision
to
be
made
regarding
the
spring
to
semester
in
december,
and
any
decision
will
be
guided
by
covet
19
infection
trends
and
guidelines
to
come
throughout
the
rapidly
changing
public
health
landscape.
The
university
has
continued
to
work
closely
with
the
city
of
boston,
the
state
and
peer
institutions
to
support
decision
making
and
provide
resources.
G
The
massachusetts
research
sector
is
critical
in
our
local
economy
and
it
accounts
for
six
billion
dollars
of
yearly
economic
activity,
four
billion
of
which
takes
place
within
the
non-profit
research
university.
Setting
tens
of
thousands
of
massachusetts
residents
work
in
boston,
research,
labs,
understanding,
the
significance
of
on-campus
research,
mayor
walsh,
led
coordination,
efforts
with
local
colleges
and
university
presidents
in
the
early
opportunity
to
resume
on
campus
research
rose
to
the
top
of
the
list
as
an
impactful
and
safe
sector
of
work
to
resume
on
a
limited
basis.
G
Despite
the
uncertainties
ahead
and
throughout
this
time,
these
efforts
of
collaboration
and
diligence,
vigilance
excuse
me
will
continue
to
be
critical
in
the
weeks
and
months
ahead.
I
hope
that
harvard's
demonstrated
commitment
to
public
health
in
our
host
communities,
and
our
academic
mission
provides
confidence
in
how
we'll
move
forward.
Thank
you,
chairman
arroyo.
Thank
you,
council,
breden,.
A
Thank
you
so
much
and
I'm
going
to
allow
in
the
case
of
mr
hanley,
if
you
have
a
question
specifically
for
him
right
now,
if
you
could
raise
your
blue
hand
I'll
go
right
to
you.
Otherwise,
we'll
we'll
go
as
long
as
you
can
stay
on
mr
hanley,
but
we'll
put
you
in
that
first
panel
of
questions,
seeing
no
blue
hands,
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
next
speaker
and,
if
that's
that
would
be
dr
jen
love
the
medical
director
at
the
boston,
public
health
commission.
H
Good
afternoon,
chairman
arroyo,
members
of
the
council,
my
name
is
dr
jennifer
lowe
and
I'm
the
medical
director
of
the
boston
public
health
commission.
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
bringing
us
back
together
today
on
this
important
topic.
I
just
want
to
begin
with
the
numbers.
First.
As
you
know,
the
covet
19
pandemic
has
had
profound
impacts
on
the
city
of
boston.
H
H
Compare
this
to
the
rate
of
reported
cases
among
white
residents,
which
stands
at
133.5
per
ten
thousand.
Also,
as
of
october,
2nd,
the
rate
of
reported
mortality
among
black
residents
is
172.8
per
hundred
thousand.
The
rate
among
the
next
residents
is
66.8
per
100
000
and
the
rate
of
reported
cases
among
white
residents
is
112.0
per
100
thousand.
H
We
have
been
keeping
a
particularly
careful
watch
on
cases
related
to
our
colleges
and
universities.
Approximately
fifty
thousand
university
students
have
returned
to
boston
since
august.
First,
since
that
date
we
have
had
approximately
3
200
cases
reported
city-wide
and
of
these
less
than
400
cases
are
of
staff,
vendors
and
students
of
colleges
and
universities.
H
Over
the
summer,
we
asked
colleges
and
universities
to
share
with
us
a
copy
of
their
copenhagen
higher
education
control
plan,
the
template
required
by
the
state
department
of
public
health
to
demonstrate
alignment
with
state
guidance
as
part
of
the
control
plan.
We
requested
a
description
of
plans
for
quarantine
of
off
and
on
campus
students
in
a
description
of
testing
and
tracing
protocols
for
testing.
We
set
the
expectation
that
all
students,
faculty
and
staff
on
campus
be
tested
along
with
any
contractors
that
are
on
campus
for
any
extended
period
of
time.
H
Since
then,
we
have
been
holding
weekly
calls
for
the
colleges
to
continue
to
work
on
implementation
of
these
control
plans
and
ensure
that
they
are
adhering
to
state
guidance.
This
has
been
a
cross-departmental
effort
with
bpba
isd
and
the
mayor's
office
participating
for
a
comprehensive
discussion
of
all
related
issues.
We
would
like
to
thank
the
colleges
and
universities
for
their
responsiveness
and
partnership
in
these
efforts
for
contact
tracing
most
institutions
in
boston
have
adopted
a
suggested
model
from
the
state,
with
shared
responsibility
between
the
institution
and
the
local
public
health
department.
H
The
most
colleges
act
as
the
ordering
provider
for
the
test,
so
they
receive
the
results.
First,
the
institution
immediately
notifies
the
phd
and
begins
the
isolation
and
quarantine
process
from
there
either
bphc
or
the
state
community.
Tracing
collaborative
will
support
their
efforts
with
contact
tracing
and
next
steps,
regardless
of
the
model.
Bphc
is
always
made
aware
of
the
results
immediately
and
supports
the
college
in
taking
swift
and
appropriate
actions.
H
H
I
want
to
emphasize
that
math
squaring
and
physical
distancing
are
the
key
to
preventing
future
transmission,
especially
in
a
college
and
university
setting.
We
applaud
the
creative
communication
efforts
for
many
of
the
colleges
to
share
that
message
with
their
campus
community.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
the
issue
of
parties
and
gatherings
in
off-campus
housing
across
the
city.
We
encourage
residents
to
call
the
bpb
party
line
at.
H
A
F
F
The
bpda
isd
and
licensing
board
have
been
jointly
reviewing
details
related
to
use
move-in
operations
and
management
for
each
location
as
the
applications
trickled
in
as
the
applications
came
in.
We
also
saw
that
hotels
and
apartments
that
institutions
were
proposing
to
partner
with
was
scattered
quite
widely
throughout
the
city,
including
many
in
neighborhoods.
That
may
not
be
used
to
seeing
an
increased
activity
around
the
fall,
and
so
we
flagged
the
need
for
proactive
communication
from
the
beginning
and
insisted
that
all
institutions
reach
out
to
local
civic
associations.
F
F
As
the
semester
began,
the
interdepartmental
working
group
led
by
the
boston
public
health
commission,
as
dr
lowe
was
just
alluding
to
in
partnership
with
the
mayor's
office,
including
all
of
the
agencies
involved
in
this
work,
have
been
hosting
a
weekly
call,
with
all
of
the
colleges
and
universities
to
exchange,
updates
and
anticipate
any
oncoming
challenges.
I'd
like
to
thank
the
universities
and
colleges
for
their
continued
collaboration
and
active
participation
in
these
goals.
F
A
Thank
you.
We're
making
good
time
here
so
just
for
for
the
panelists
ken
ryan
is
next
he's
the
director
of
city
relations
and
government
community
affairs
at
boston
university,
followed
by
john
tobin,
the
vice
president
of
city
community
affairs,
at
northeastern,
followed
by
thomas
keating
jr,
the
vice
president
of
governmental
and
community
affairs
at
boston
college,
followed
by
gene
levesque
and
then
we'll
go
into
our
first
panel
of
questions,
which
will
be
the
administration
plus
mark
hanley
and
I'd.
A
Been
joined
by
councillor
o'malley
as
well
for
this
hearing
and
just
so
that
everybody's
up
to
date
again
we're
gonna,
have
all
the
speakers
speak
three
to
five
minutes
to
try
and
make
sure
everybody
nobody's
waiting
for
hours
like
last
time
and
then
we'll
go
into
panels
of
questions.
The
first
hand
will
be
administration
and
mark
hanley,
followed
by
so
that's
bpda.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
council,
president
janie
and
councilors
bach
and
braden
for
sponsoring
these
hearings.
For
the
record.
My
name
is
ken
ryan,
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
south
boston
and
I
work
at
boston
university
in
the
office
of
government
and
community
affairs
for
the
q,
a
portion
I
will
be
joined
by
dr
gloria
waters
vice
president
and
associate
provost
for
research
and
ken
elmore
associate
provost
and
dean
of
students
here
at
boston
university.
J
Since
our
last
hearing
in
july,
boston
university
has
dedicated
every
possible
minute
and
resource
to
continue
its
mission
of
education,
research
and
service
with
the
highest
degree
of
safety
and
well-being
that
we
can
possibly
achieve
for
our
communities.
Thanks
to
the
tireless
work
of
our
dedicated
staff
and
faculty.
Throughout
the
summer,
we've
launched
our
new
hybrid
learning,
teaching
format
learn
from
anywhere
while
transforming
our
physical
spaces
to
minimize
risk
and
to
optimize
campus
life
in
a
socially
distant
environment.
J
We've
reshaped
the
landscape
of
public
health
through
our
required
practices.
Physical
distancing
face
covering
and
hygiene
which
are
highly
visible
in
our
signage
and
daily
communications
and
through
the
build
out
of
our
nationally
recognized
bu
clinical
testing
lab
and
public
public-facing
bu
covet
19
testing
data
dashboard
we've
developed
one
of
the
most
comprehensive
and
transparent
testing
and
contact
tracing
systems
in
the
country.
J
J
As
of
october
4th,
the
university
has
a
cumulative
negative
test
rate
of
99.93
percent
and
accumulated
a
positive
rate
of
0.07,
but,
as
president
brown
wrote
to
our
community
at
the
beginning
of
the
fall
semester,
the
most
important
change,
one
that
is
less
physically
evident
but
absolutely
critical,
is
in
what
each
of
us
does
to
ensure
that
we
succeed
in
protecting
our
community
and
each
other
to
keep
the
virus
at
bay.
He
has
pointed
to
three
things:
the
boston
university
community
must
do
one.
We
must
adhere
to
the
testing
in
daily
symptom
reporting
processes.
J
Two.
We
must
adhere
to
the
protocols
for
face
coverings
and
physical
distancing
at
all
gatherings,
both
off
campus
and
on
campus
and
three.
We
must
follow
these
protocols
outside
of
the
university
in
our
day-to-day
life
here
on
campus
attending
parties
or
gatherings
without
practicing
physical,
distancing
or
wearing
face
coverings
is
behavior
that
engages
our
academic
community
and
our
neighboring
communities
to
hold
students
accountable.
A
blunt
warning
has
been
issued.
If
you
host
or
attend
a
large
off-campus
or
on-campus
gathering
social
or
party,
you
will
face
suspension
from
boston
university
with
the
fall
semester
underway.
J
J
We
are
strongly
encouraging
students
who
wish
to
complete
the
fall
semester
on
campus
to
remain
here
over
the
thanksgiving
break.
Students
who
decide
to
travel
outside
of
massachusetts
will
be
subject
to
public
health
regulations
which,
depending
on
their
destination,
could
require
quarantine
for
up
to
14
days.
J
If
students
make
the
decision
to
travel
home
for
the
holiday,
bu
will
recommend
not
returning
to
campus
and
instead
completing
the
semester
remotely
under
the
lfa
model
for
the
spring
semester.
Our
overarching
goal
is
to
continue
with
the
elements
of
our
back
to
bu
plan
that
have
been
working
while
incorporating
improvements
based
on
experiences
during
the
fall
semester.
J
J
One
spring
classes
will
begin
on
monday
january
25th
2021
rather
than
tuesday
january
19th,
and
two
there
will
be
no
spring
break
recess
this
academic
year.
These
adjustments
are
designed
to
reduce
our
community's
risk
of
exposure
to
covert
19
by
limiting
the
amount
of
travel
occurring
within
the
semester.
J
Thanks
to
those
who
learn,
teach
and
work
on
our
campuses,
each
and
every
day,
as
well
as
our
close
coordination
with
the
walsh
administration,
the
boston
city,
council
and
the
city
of
boston,
we
are
demonstrating
that
providing
world-class
residential
education
in
best-in-class,
public
health
and
safety
are
not
mutually
exclusive,
in
fact
done.
Well,
they
make
each
other
possible
in
this
coven-19
world.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman.
A
K
K
We
appreciate
you
continuing
this
conversation
because
we
think
it's
through
communication
and
through
action
that
we
all
work
together
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
successful,
not
just
on
our
campuses,
but
also
with
our
neighbors
and
community
as
well
I'll,
also
be
joined
in
the
question
and
answer
portion
of
the
panel
when
it
comes
time
for
questions
by
kathy
spiegelman.
My
colleague
kathy
spiegelman
who's,
a
vp
of
campus
planning,
chief
of
campus
planning
at
northeastern
and
also
our
senior
vice
provost
for
our
research,
david
leslie.
K
To
that
effect,
much
effort
was
made
on
de-densifying.
Our
campus
much
has
been
made
about
hotels,
newport
talked
earlier
about
the
hotels
that
are
being
used.
We
northeastern
is
using
two
of
them,
the
midtown
hotel
and
also
the
the
westin
at
copley.
Into
that
end.
There
was
a
great
process
that
was
set
up
by
the
city
of
boston
by
the
bpda
licensing
isd,
but
also
with
the
neighbors
and
the
neighborhood
associations
work
very
closely
with
the
neighborhood
associations
that
surround
both
those
hotels.
K
Doing
the
zoom
calls
being
constant
communication
through
that
licensing
process
which
continues
moving
forward
right
now,
testing
it's
it's
only
gonna
be
successful.
If
there's
frequent
testing-
and
it's
it's
done
diligently
to
this
as
a
as
of
today,
just
before
we
get
on
this
call,
there
have
been
just
over
200
000
tests
conducted
by
northeastern
university
with
a
positive
rate
of
0.05
percent.
K
There
is
constant
contact
with
the
public
health
commission
and
with
the
mayor's
office,
there's
constant
contact
through
maybe
through
emails
through
newspaper
ads
phone
calls,
but
also
using
social
media
students
with
community
with
neighborhood
associations,
like
I
said,
and
with
elected
officials,
many
of
whom
are
on
this
call
right
now.
We've
also
set
up
a
it's
not
just
on
campus,
but
we're
also
very
concerned
about
you
know.
Off-Campus
gatherings,
as
many
of
my
peers
have
talked
about
here.
K
Prior
and
and
councils
have
expressed
a
concern
with.
To
that
end.
We've
northeastern
has
established
a
tip
line
to
report.
All
off-campus
student
behavior
help
take
the
stress
off
of
9-1-1
and
3-1-1
calls,
and
we
monitor
that
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week.
That
number
is
617-373
tips
and
that's
just
not
tips
just
on
for
for
residents
to
use
our
own
students
use
it
as
well.
K
We
are
there's
a
mandatory
overtime
police
car
that
monitors
mission
hill
in
roxbury
in
in
the
boston
police
car
that
has
college
representation
there.
Not
the
communication
amongst
the
colleges
in
the
universities
throughout
this
pandemic
has
has
been
terrific,
and
I
want
to
you
know,
point
out.
Many
of
my
peers
are
on
this
call
now,
but
in
mission
hill
we
deal
very
closely
work
very
closely
with
our
peers
at
wentworth
and
the
mess
in
the
college
of
pharmacy.
K
In
his
regard.
In
regards
to
the
spring
updates,
we
have
a
plan
in
place,
we're
just
we're
getting
ready
to
share
that
with
our
students
and
as
soon
as
that
is
we
want
to
share
with
our
students
first
and
as
soon
as
soon
as
I
share
with
our
students.
We
will,
of
course
transmit
that
not
just
to
our
elected
officials,
community
groups,
our
task
force
members
and
our
community
advisor
board
members.
We
will.
We
will
spread
that
out
there
in
in
due
time.
K
A
Thank
you,
and
I
believe
I
made
both
you
and
mr
ryan
represented
that
some
of
the
folks
that
were
attendees
would
also
be
answering
questions.
I
believe
I
made
them
panelists
if
they
haven't
been
made
panelists.
Just
let
me
know
that
goes
for
anybody
else
who
who
has
perhaps
a
colleague
who's
waiting
out
there
with
that
and
thank
you,
mr
tobin,
thomas
keaty
jr,
the
vice
president
of
governmental
and
community
affairs
at
boston
college.
The
floor
is
yours,
and
then
we
just
have
gene
levesque.
A
L
All
of
my
colleagues
have
spoken
from
the
various
institutions
that
are
part
of
this
discussion
today,
and
we
too,
along
with
them,
have
used
the
same
guiding
principles
on
reopening
when
boston
college
closed.
In
mid-march
president
leahy
called
for
a
committee
to
begin
the
process
of
looking
at
reopening
the
first
was
the
summer
classes
went
online.
L
We
did
not
have
any
in-person
summer
classes.
We
made
that
decision
in
early
april,
but
we
started
to
meet
and
to
consider
the
reopening
and
move
in
for
fall.
Reopening
the
guiding
principles
were
absolutely
number
one.
The
health
and
safety
well-being
of
our
community
is
paramount
in
our
decision-making
process.
L
Originally
they
were
going
to
be
going
back
to
their
apartments
and
we
made
a
change
to
house
any
any
students
that
tested
positive
that
were
living
off
campus.
I
think
that
was
a
good
decision
and
we
are
also
committed
to
providing
regular
communication
and
updates
with
all
members
of
the
bc
community
and
our
neighboring
community.
As
information
becomes
available,
we
have
a
website
that
is
updated
daily
and
we
have
been
have
been
very
transparent
in
reporting
our
cases
as
of
since
mid-august
through
today,
we've
done
44
687
tests.
L
L
We
also
have,
as
many
of
you
know,
we
acquired
pine
meanwhile
college,
which
brought
us
an
additional
500
beds,
and
we
also
have
a
retreat
center
in
dover
massachusetts
that
has
approximately
63
beds.
We
work
very
hard
every
day,
as
I
tell
my
staff
really
good.
As
our
last
weekend
off
campus
we've
had
a
very
quiet
fall.
L
A
Thank
you,
mr
keady,
so
with
that,
I
believe
that
is
all
of
our
speakers,
and
so
now
we're
going
to
go
into
our
question
and
session
question
answer
session
will
be
by
order
of
appearance.
The
lead
sponsors
will
be
going
first.
I
will
be
going
last.
The
first
round
will
be
the
administration
so
for
folks
who
may
have
missed
us
that
part
that
is
dr
jen
low,
who
is
the
medical
director
for
the
public
health
commission
that
is
newport
monani?
A
Who
is
the
senior
institutional
planner
at
the
bpda,
and
that
is
we're
going
to
add,
mark
hanley
who's,
the
director
of
government
affairs
and
community
relations
to
that
first
panel,
because
he
has
a
hard
stop
and
I
believe
that's
everybody.
If
anybody
I
left
off
was
going
to
be
answering
questions
in
for
the
boston
public
health
commissioner
bpda
is
that
is
that
everybody
who's
here
I
know
we
had
okay,
perfect,
and
so
with
that
I'm
gonna
go
to
counselor
braden.
A
For
my
colleagues,
I'm
hoping
we
can
keep
each
round
of
questions
to
five
minutes
per
person
when
we
hit
five,
I'm
just
gonna
put
a
five
like
five
like
looks
like
stop,
because
it
is.
That
means.
We've
hit
five
minutes
and
my
hope
is
that
you
do
stop.
If
you
don't
and
my
hand
gets
tired,
I
will
tell
you
to
stop
and
so
basically
you're
just
you're
playing
a
gamble
with
how
long
it
takes
for
my
hand
to
get
tired,
and
so
with
that
counselor
braden.
A
You
have
five
minutes
and
we'll
do
as
many
rounds
as
it
takes,
but
for
the
first
round
it's
the
administration
in
harvard
for
the
second
round.
It
will
be
all
of
the
universities
at
once,
and
you
can
direct
your
questions
specifically
to
the
university
that
you
have
that
question
for
and
we'll
do
as
many
rounds
as
it
takes.
So
with
that
counselor
brayden
the
floor
is
yours.
C
C
F
C
Yeah
because
there's
a
huge
number
of
boston
university
students,
the
bulk
of
the
the
actual
university
buildings
are
probably
in
consular
box
district,
but
a
huge
number
of
students
actually
live
in
allston
and
the
austin
civic
association
hadn't
been
contacted
about
about
the
plans
for
the
fall
reopening
and
and
off-campus
housing,
etc.
So
that
was
a
concern.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
brayden.
I
was
certainly
within
the
time
limits
and
also
just
a
reminder
that
mark
hanley
from
harvard
is
also
in
this
first
panel,
and
so
the
order
for
folks
who
are
here
janie
president
janie
will
be
next
followed
by
counselor
flynn.
Is
he's
still
present.
I
know
counselor
sabi
george
had
to
step
out
she'll
be
back
so
it'd
be
her,
then
councillor
campbell,
then
councillor
wu,
then
councillor
mejia,
then
councillor
o'malley.
So
with
that
president
jane
in
the
floor
is
yours.
Thank.
D
You,
mr
chairman,
and
I
will
be
brief.
My
colleague
has
modeled
really
good
behavior,
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
follow
her
lead
and
keep
my
remarks
brief.
Just
a
couple
of
questions
so
one
because
we
do
have
harvard
on
the
line.
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
shed
any
more
light
to
the
the
incident
that
the
paper
is
reporting.
D
It's
a
repeat
of
what
we
saw.
I
think,
a
few
weeks
ago
at
northeastern.
That's
one
question
and
mr
chair:
I'm
just
going
to
get
my
questions
out.
So
that's
one
question:
if
there
was
any
update
there,
I
am
really
interested
in
whether
or
not
there
are
more
conversations.
So
at
the
last
hearing
we
were
having
conversations
about
the
hotels.
D
Now
clearly
you
know
so
midtown
is
being
used.
The
west
is
being
used.
Are
there
other?
Are
we
still
in
that
process
at
looking
at
other
hotels,
to
see
if
we
can
take
more
students
off
their
campuses
and
into
hotels?
Are
we
pretty
much
there
so
done
with
that?
So
that's
another
question
and
then
I
am
really
interested
in
the
overall
monitoring
and
how
the
city,
the
administration
is
working
with
the
universities
and
colleges
just
to
make
sure
that
different
protocols
are
being
adhered
to
and
when
they're,
not.
I
wonder
what
happens
so.
D
D
I'm
grateful
that
there
are
party,
you
know
the
tip
hotlines
and
I
will
certainly
share
them
out,
but
I
I
wonder,
I
get
constant
complaints
and
I
don't
mean
to
to
pick
on
any
institution
here,
but
given
the
district
that
I
represent,
many
of
the
students,
whether
they're
housed
in
kind
of
mission,
hill
parts
of
roxbury
highland
park,
parks
of
roxbury,
all
near
the
institution
we
see.
Well,
we
get
complaints
of
parties
and
so
I'd
be
interested
in
you
know.
I
think
the
university
has
put
out
a
pretty
hard
line.
D
Universities,
as
we
see
the
story
about
harvard
and
the
11
students.
I
think
it
was
from
northeastern
earlier.
I'd
just
be
interested
in
how
we
can
do.
What
more
can
we
do
to
keep
those
events
where
people
are
gathering
and
perhaps
not
being
safe,
being
a
little
more
risky
with
behavior?
You
know
at
parties,
college
parties
and
things
like
that.
What
more
can
we
do
to
try
to
keep
that
down,
not
just
for
the
sanity
of
of
residents
who
live
in
our
communities,
but
really
the
health
factor
as
well?
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
G
Council
president
janie,
you
asked
about
harvard
students
who
were
dismissed
from
campus
all
harvard
undergraduates,
who
decided
who
were
invited
and
agreed
to
live
on
campus
in
cambridge,
it's
about
25
of
our
normal
undergraduate
population
were
invited
back.
Most
of
them
are
first-year
students
or
students
who
couldn't
learn
successfully
at
home.
G
D
Thank
you,
so
the
other
question
just
was
around:
are
we
done
with
the
hotels
in
terms
of
this
might
be
more
to
bpda?
Are
we
still
looking
at
other
hotel?
Are
we
looking
at
other
hotels
to
see
if
we
can
repurpose
them
and
then
just
wanted
to
talk
more
about
the
engagement
with
regular
with
residents
in
our
community
and
how
we
can
have-
and
this
is,
I
guess,
a
longer
term
conversation
because
pre-covert
when
there
was
no
necessarily
big
health
crisis
before
us.
D
F
Thanks,
council
president
janie
I'll
take
the
first
question.
First
at
this
point,
we
don't
have
any
applications
that
are
currently
under
review.
The
last
of
the
nine
applications
that
came
through
to
us
came
in
early
september
and
we
approved
it
along
with
isd
and
licensing
at
some
point,
two
or
three
weeks
out
so
to
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
we
are
not
anticipating
any
other
applications
coming
through
for
the
fall
semester,
also
considering
that
the
semester
is
underway.
F
So
short
answer
at
this
point,
I
don't
anticipate
there
being
any
more
locations
considered
for
the
fall
to
your
second
question
from
president
janey,
I
would
say
that
there's
a
couple
of
different
ways
in
which
any
issues
can
be
reported.
One
is
the
line
that
dr
lowe
mentioned
earlier.
There
is
also
311.
I
know
that
we
have
been
receiving
sort
of
several
complaints
through
3-1-1
there's.
H
Spring
is
jenna
furlow
I
can.
I
can
speak
well
specifically
when
issues
arise,
off-campus
issues
arise
and
we're
made
aware
of
them.
We
work
very
closely
with
the
institution
to
address
any
any
particular
concerns
or
clusters
or
hotspots
that
might
arise
in
a
particular
institution,
and
that
will
con
again.
We
continue
to
partner
with
them
very
closely.
They
notify
us.
We
have
very
good
channels
of
communication
which
either
each
of
the
universities.
H
A
Thank
you
if
there's
any
other
follow-ups
to
that
I'll,
let
president
janey
ask
them
in
round
two.
I
just
want
to
note
that
we've
been
joined
by
councilor
bach
in
speaking
with
her
she'll
she'll
join
the
list,
as
it's
already
been
put
together,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
councillor
flynn
is
still
presence,
I
believe
he
had
to
go
and
so
councillor
campbell
the
floor
is
yours.
If
you
are
here-
and
you
would
like
it-
yes.
M
Thank
you,
council
arroyo
and,
of
course,
thank
you
to
the
makers
for
their
work
on
this
this
critical
issue.
Obviously
my
district
does
not
have
a
universities.
Of
course
we
have
students
who
attend
the
various
universities
and
continue
through
various
ways
to
sometimes
get
some
of
the
complaints
around
the
parties,
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
M
As
a
chair
with
respect
to
our
universities
in
in
that
that's
a
comment,
I
guess
not
necessarily
a
question
and
then
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
just
curious
about-
and
maybe
this
is
for
our
our
the
administrative
panel.
You
know
at
what
point
so
we
two
are
hearing
the
the
frustration
around
the
parties
and
the
potential
of
that
that
activity
is
spreading
to
communities
that
also
do
not
have.
M
A
A
H
I
I
can
give
some
data
specifically
on
college
versus
non-college
metrics.
So
this
is
we
look
at.
We
can
have
the
we
have
the
ability
to
look
at
metrics
with
data
ecology
and
without
without
college-based
testing.
So
just
for
the
week
of
september
22
to
28
when
college
data
are
included,
the
average
number
of
daily
positivity
tests
increased
by
20.2
per
day,
with
a
week-to-week
increase
from
51.4
positive
tests
to
71.6.
H
If
you
excluded
college-based
testing,
the
average
number
of
daily
positive
tests
increased
from
16.4
per
day
with
a
weak
tweak
increase
to
45.7
positive
tests
with
62.1
positive
tests
per
day
positivity
rate
week
week
went
from
2.6
to
3.9
percent.
When
college
data
was
included.
If
you
excluded
it,
it
went
from
3.4
percent
to
4.0
percent,
so
not
much
of
a
difference
there
and
then
just
person-level
tests
change
from
week
to
week.
H
If
you
included
level
data
it,
it
actually
decreased
by
six
percent
and
if
you
included,
I'm
sorry
if
you
excluded
college
based
testing,
you
increased
person
level
test
by
17,
and
when
we
look
at
that
data,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
if
you
test
the
same
person
over
and
over
and
over
again,
it
doesn't
actually
pertain
to
that
person
level
test.
So
that
last
data
point.
H
That's
why
you
would
see
a
a
decrease
in
testing
from
call
when
college
data
is
included
because
they
test
the
same
people
over
and
over
again
versus
the
excluding
college
level
data
and
also
seasoning
counselor.
Just
to
your
point
about.
When
do
we
actually
communicate
with
universities
about
quote-unquote
when
they're
in
the
red
zone,
and
I
think
as
a
as
a
city,
we
are
looking
at
the
data
on
a
regular
basis
and
looking
about
looking
at
policies
and
how
that
will
affect
the
reopening
more
broadly
across
the
city,
universities.
H
N
G
So
far,
if
we
look
at
the
entire
university,
harvard
has
done
about
ninety
thousand
tests
again
jumping
back
to
the
last
in
and
across
those
90
000
tests,
there
have
been
only
nine
undergraduates
who
have
tested
positive,
jumping
back
to
the
last
seven
days.
Harvard
has
done
16
000
tests
across
all
of
our
undergraduate
graduate
and
faculty
staff
and
affiliate
populations.
Sixteen
thousand
over
the
past
seven
days,
and
there
have
been
six
positive
cases
across
those
which
gives
you
a
0.04
positive
rate.
G
M
Now
this
is
this
is
all
very
helpful
and
I'm
sure
my
time
has
run
out.
I
want
to
be
the
mindful
council
royal
thank
you
for
running
this
hearing,
so
so
great
to
keep
us
on
time
and
I'll
look
out
for
any
data
you
can
provide,
and-
and
this
is
helpful
because,
obviously
when
we
get
the
calls
around
the
large
parties,
people
are
absolutely
concerned,
but
wanting
to
have
a
greater
sense
of
what
the
the
magnitude
and
the
scope
of
the
problem
is
in
terms
of
infection
rate
data.
M
A
K
O
Wu
evening,
everyone,
thank
you
so
much.
I
I
think
I
just
have
two
questions
one
for
mr
hanley.
While
he
is
here
and
then
one
for
dr
lowe
so
mark
welcome
back
to
the
council,
I'm
just
curious.
You
mentioned
the
dashboard
that
harvard
has
and
that
it's
updated
daily.
What
are
the
kind
of
key
metrics
that
drive
decision
making
at
the
university
off
of
that
dashboard?.
G
Counselor,
I
have
a
list
of
what
drives
our
decision
making
and
to
the
degree
that
we
are
now
within
the
fall
semester.
I
would
say
that
we're
relying
we're
looking
at
the
spring
semester
in
making
sure
that
our
thinking
is
nimble
and
not
static
in
order
that
we
can
make
a
smart
decision
for
the
spring.
We
laid
out
some
possibilities
back
in
july,
but
we
really
have
to
see
what
happens
with
the
trend,
the
key
indicators
we
track
on
the
website,
the
cova
dashboard
for
harvard
which
is
harvard.edu
coronavirus.
G
G
I've
mentioned
a
few
times
the
nine
overall
undergraduate
tests
there
have
been.
If
you
scroll
down
on
the
dashboard
there,
have
it
breaks
down
exactly
where
we've
seen
those
positives
nine,
as
I've
mentioned
a
few
times
among
undergrads
13
overall,
amongst
graduate
students,
33
total
among
faculty
staff
and
other
affiliates,
so
that
55
total
number
of
tests
is
across
the
90
000
tests
that
have
taken
place
at
harvard.
O
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
have
it
up.
That's
really
great
okay,
so
I
actually
thought
of
another
one
for
you
that
will
be
just
half
a
question:
are
there
any
plans
or
opportunity
to
share
or
expand
the
testing
capacity
that
you
have
to
include
sort
of
neighboring,
municipalities
and
and
the
potential
for
partnerships
like
we
saw
with
the
red
sox
and
bps,
for
example,.
G
Councillor
wu,
I'm
not
perfectly
familiar
with
the
partnership,
but
I
think
I
get
the
gist
of
it.
Our
testing
has
been
engaged
through
the
broad
institute
of
mit
and
harvard
the
broad
institute,
I
think,
is
engaged
with
about
over
a
hundred
organizations
to
provide
testing
and
they
are
doing
our
testing
with
average
turnaround
of
less
than
24
hours.
So
this
is
not
an
in-house
capacity
that
we
have
for
the
tests.
G
O
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that
so,
dr
lo,
could
you
just
just
in
terms
of
the
bphc
equivalent?
I
know
that
the
dashboard
on
the
public
health
commission
website
has
the
weekly
reports
that
aggregate
data
by
neighborhood
over
seven
day
periods,
but
do
we
have
anywhere
where
there's
daily,
updated
sort
of
a
running
positivity
rate?
That's
not
just
a
huge
lag
and
and
from
sort
of
prior
seven
day
periods.
H
We
are
actually
working
towards
getting
up
that
dashboard.
Now
we
do
not.
We
have
the
seven
day
we
have
the
seven
day
lag
for
now,
but
we're
actually
working
towards
the
day-to-day
updates,
and
we
also
have
our
mick
report
that
goes
out
on
the
medical
intelligence
center
report.
That
goes
out
every
day
with
an
update
on
daily
numbers,
and
that
is
available
for
anyone
on
the
nick
distribution
list.
H
H
O
Okay,
and
is
there
I
mean,
could
the
data
that
gets
emailed
out
to
anyone
who
signs
up
just
be
put
on
the
website
as
well?
I
mean,
I
guess,
I'm
asking
because
it's
it's
just
a
little
nerve-wracking
as
a
parent
and
thinking
about
boston,
public
schools,
where
the
threshold
is
four
percent
and
we're
seeing
boston's
positivity
rate
at
3.9
percent.
I
O
Okay
and
then,
similarly
to
you
know
what
mark
was
just
saying
about
showing
the
data
by
sort
of
stakeholder
category,
especially
when
we're
thinking
about
ways
that
the
city
is
using
this
data
to
drive
decision
making.
I
mean
I
just
wonder
if
there's
a
way
to
tailor
it
to
really
understanding
how
school
communities
are
being
affected
and
therefore,
where
more
capacity
might
be
needed
for
testing
certain
populations
by
geography
or
by
you
know,
school
community,
for
example.
A
H
We
have
been
working
very
diligently
with
city
mayor's
office,
hhs
and
bphc
to
be
as
creative
as
possible,
around
testing
opportunities,
including
with
universities
and
private
partners-
I'm
sorry
community
partners,
and
so
it's
it's
it's
a
process
and
and
we've
we've
been
working
diligently
throughout
the
offender
just
to
increase
the
capacity.
So
nothing
concrete
now
that
I
want
to
share
we're
in
conversations
on
a
weekly
basis,
but
we
are,
we
are
putting
that
into
play
so
we're
trying
to
increase
capacity
in
general.
Q
Thank
you
chairman,
and
the
co-sponsors
for
this
hearing
excited
to
be
here.
Diving
right
in
this
is
for
mark
henley,
I'm
just
curious.
When
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
policy
towards
freshmen,
particularly
international
students?
We've
seen
that
they're
they
were
not
allowed
on
campus
due
to
visa
status
and
I'm
curious
to
know
what
barriers
put
that
policy
in
place
and
also
I'm
curious
to
learn
how
harvard
is
accommodating
students
in
regions
with
poor
internet
connection.
G
G
G
Don't
pay
anything,
and
there
are
many
harvard
college
students
who
live
in
boston
who
are
taking
advantage
of
grants
and-
and
some
of
whom
are
part
of
that
group
of
one
in
five.
So
we
have
extended
quite
a
number
of
benefits
to
make
sure
that
harvard's
college
students
can
learn
successfully
and
if,
ultimately,
that
was
not
possible
at
home
for
them.
They're
back
on
campus
now.
Q
Q
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
stick
to
my
round
one.
Thank
you
for
that
mark.
I
really
do
appreciate
it.
My
internet
is
really
bad.
I
feel
like
I
I'm
in
the
dominican
republic
right
now,
but
I'm
in
boston,
but
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
get
through
this.
My
next
question
will
is
for
dr
lowe,
I'm
just
curious
when
it
comes
to
calling
the
police
on
parties
I'm
giving
a
lot
of
the
recent
events.
Some
people
are
uncomfortable,
calling
the
police.
Q
Are
there
any
other
options
or
have
we
begun
to
think
about
alternatives,
and
then
I'm
also
curious
about
college
universities
in
boston,
offering
walking
testing.
I
I
saw
that
bc
is
not
currently
offering
that
service
and
I'm
curious
to
get
an
accurate
number
and
do
colleges
and
universities
in
boston
have
enough
tests
to
cover
the
total
number
of
students,
faculty
and
staff.
P
I'll
have
to
defer
the
question
about
any
specific
testing
capacity
to
the
universities.
We
have
been
in
conversation
separately
from
university
com,
from
university
conversations
with
broad
and
and
in
the
state
in
terms
of
their
capacity
for
testing.
So
at
this
point
in
time,
bro
does
not
indicate
that
they
have
any
limitation
to
their
ability
to
test
in
a
broad
level
basis.
P
But
again
I
have
to
defer
that
to
a
question
specifically
to
road
and
then
with
regards
to
the
bpd
line,
I
mean
I,
I
think
we
we
do
have
the
bpd
line.
I
think
that
is
a
conversation.
If,
if
there
are
concerns
about
reaching
out
to
bpd,
we
can
reach
out
to
bpd
specifically
to
see
how
they're
handling
how
they're
handling
calls
and
if
there
are
alternatives
to
to
reaching
out
to
them.
A
This
will
be
the
final
one
for
this
round,
but
in
terms
of
just
just
to
make
sure
you
know
the
two
panels,
this
panel
is
the
bpda
boston,
public
health
commission
in
harvard
the
second
panel
and
we're
gonna
go
so
we'll
everybody
will
go
again
for
the
second
panel.
That's
bc,
bu
northeastern
and
I
believe
I
believe,
that's
the
three
universities
we
have
there.
I
forgot
one,
but
bubc
in
northeastern
will
be
in
the
next
panel.
Q
Q
Q
Well,
I'm
just
I'm
just
talking
about
anything
every
all
spaces,
whether
it's
restaurants,
whether
it's
libraries,
whether
it's
train
stations,
hospitals,
clinics,
dunkin,
donuts,
I'm
talking
about
every
in
any
space
that
folks
are
utilizing
in
the
city
that
are
con.
That
may
put
residents
at
risk.
I'm
just
wondering
what
what
is
being
done
in
that
in
that
area
to
protect
residents.
F
Okay,
that's
that's
helpful.
Thank
you.
So
I
think
the
this
I
will
again
defer
to
the
universities
on
the
specifics
of
what
they're
asking
the
the
students
to
do
across
the
board.
I
will
say
that
we
have
been
insisting
that
several
kind
of
protocols
we
put
in
place
one
each
university
has
communicated
to
their
students
that
there
are
very
specific
mask
mandates
when
they're
commuting
between
these
off-campus
locations
and
and
their
classes.
So
that's
kind
of
one
very
clear
and
direct
thing.
They've
all
been
asked
to
do.
F
The
second
is
as
part
of
the
review
process
and
submitting
all
of
these
plans
for
off-campus
uses.
Each
university
was
also
required
to
prescribe
sort
of
a
preferred
path
of
commute.
So,
for
example,
you
know
for
for
no
other
reason,
but
just
to
use
them.
As
an
example,
you
know
northeastern
has
students
in
the
midtown
while
sort
of
commuting
down
to
the
campus.
They
have
been
asked
to
sort
of
stick
to
huntington,
ave
and
kind
of
not
meander
throughout
the
southwest
corridor
park
or
kind
of
other
areas
of
the
back
bay
neighborhood.
F
A
Thank
you.
I
think
that
would
be
negative
a
minute.
So
with
that
we
we
have
councillor
o'malley
and
bach.
I
just
want
to
let
the
attendees
who
are
here
for
public
comments
and
know
that
I
see
them
that
they're
here
that
they're
not
just
randomly
over
there.
So
if
you
just
wait
for
the
end
of
this
hearing,
I'll
make
sure
you
have
your
public
comment
period,
and
so
it's
counselor
o'malley,
who
may
very
well
be
in
the
dr.
R
Your
house,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
The
the
balmy
winds
of
west
roxbury
have
allowed
me
not
to
kill
this
plant
behind
me
on
my
back
porch,
so
I
appreciate
it.
We
should
all
be
so
lucky
to
be
in
the
dr
right
now,
but
soon
someday.
Perhaps
thank
you
all
to
the
my
colleagues
in
government,
in
my
in
in
the
neighborhood
in
city
city
hall,
for
their
great
work
here.
R
Obviously
this
is
very,
very
important
and
I
wanted
to
begin
really
by
acknowledging
the
great
work
of
so
many
panelists.
I
know
we'll
get
into
the
specific,
the
non-harvard,
specific
university
and
college
questions
later,
but
gene
and
ken
and
mark
and
and
john
tobin,
the
second
best
district,
six
city
council
of
all
time.
It
is
it's
great
to
continue
to
work
with
all
of
you.
R
We
have
been
on
the
phone
throughout
this
pandemic
and
I
really
also
want
to
acknowledge
the
great
communication
you
have
among
each
other,
but
also
with
the
city
and
dr
lowe,
and
I
know
the
mayor-
and
I
know
his
new
chief
of
staff,
katherine
byrne-
has
been
really
engaged.
So
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
that.
I
think
that
the
obviously
the
enormity
of
the
challenge
of
what
we
are
dealing
with
cannot
be
underscored,
but
the
fact
that
everyone
is
coming
together
at
the
end
of
the
day.
R
Who've
really
worked
well
to
encourage
usage
of
the
park
they're
one
of
the
the
most
beautiful
parts
of
our
city
and
I've
been
able
to
do
it
safely.
So,
just
very
briefly,
like
one
minute,
can
you
sort
of
talk
about
efforts
that
harvard
has
done
working
with
the
city
again?
This
is
somewhat
off
topic
because
it's
not
about
colleges
and
universities
per
se,
but
it's
about
a
really
important
special
place
that
you
guys
run.
G
G
As
you
remember,
there
was
some
real
fear
back
in
april
may
june,
especially
that
it
was
not
necessarily
safe
to
be
outdoors
even
with
a
mask
on
even
in
the
sunlight
around
other
people,
and
contributing
to
that
fear
was
the
fact
that
the
arboretum
on
some
days,
especially
when
we
had
a
very
warm
spring,
was
seeing
two
and
three
times
as
many
visitors
as
they
do.
In
a
typical
year.
A
R
Just
just
very
briefly,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
thank
you
mark,
and
so
dr
law.
I
did
want
to
just
acknowledge
your
incredible
work
here.
Have
you
been
the
point
person
specifically
for
the
colleges
and
universities
I
had
asked
at
the
earlier
working
session
if
we
could
designate
one
from
bphc,
I
assume
it
may
be
you,
but
is
there
one
sort
of
point
person
who's
been.
P
Actually
tom
lane
well
tom
lane
is
the
associate
bureau
director
for
infectious
disease
and
julia
gunn
is
a
chemo
global
disease
control
division
director
they
have
both
been
tom
consistently
and,
I
believe,
julia
as
well
have
both
been
consistently
on
the
calls.
The
weekly
calls
with
the
universities
has
worked
very
closely
with
all
of
the
city,
the
city
hall
teams
to
meet
up
with
the
universities
on
a
regular
basis.
So
that
would
be
your
point
person
right
now.
R
That
that's
very,
very
helpful
and
thank
you
for
their
great
work
and
all
your
team.
I
know
how
hard
this
is,
but
obviously
how
important
it
is
when
folks
undercut
the
severity
of
what
we're
up
against
it.
Really
it
is
just
dangerous,
is
the
only
word
I
can
think
of
so.
I
will
close
by
saying
in
your
expert
medical
opinion
when
an
individual
says
don't
be
afraid
of
covid.
How
wrong
is
he.
P
I
am
going
to
say
that
we
should
be
very
concerned
about
copin
19
and
unfortunately,
it
disproportionately
affects
those
who
don't
have
the
resources
to
protect
themselves.
So
I
think
everyone
should
be
concerned,
but
we
should
be
as
a
public
health
official.
I
think
we
need
to
be
concerned
about
all
our
community
neighbors
friends.
Family
members
could.
R
S
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here
with
us,
and
I
do
just
want
to
say.
I
know
I
was
late
today,
but
I
had
a
staffer
on
the
call
the
whole
time
and
so
I've
I've
gotten
caught
up.
I
think,
thanks
to
my
chief
of
staff,
lauren
for
taking
very
detailed
notes,
and-
and
I
should
say
I
really
appreciate
many
of
the
universities
on
this
call-
have
been
working
with
me
for
months
now
around.
You
know
how
to
make
this
safe.
S
I
obviously
had
a
lot
of
concerns
about
students
coming
back
in
person
and
I
would
say
that
I
think
we're
all
still
as
you're
hearing
from
the
counselors
on
the
call.
I
think
we're
reflecting
the
fact
that
our
constituents
continue
to
have
concerns
and
that
and
that,
of
course,
we
all
know
that
we're
sort
of
turning
towards
the
winter
and
less
outdoor
time
and
more
indoor
time
and
based
on
what
we
know
about
cope
with
spread.
S
So
I
I
know
that
the
chairman
has
wanted
us
to
direct
our
questions
the
first
panel,
so
I'll
do
that.
My
first
question
is
actually
for
dr
lowe
just
related
to
that
extremely
large
number
of
tests.
I
mean
when
I
was
looking
at
the
data
you
know
fenway
as
a
neighborhood
has
a
much
lower
rate.
But
then,
when
you
look,
it
has
a
way
higher
number
of
tests.
S
It's
up
in
like
the
60
69
or
something
thousand.
This
was
for
whatever
period
you
know,
and
then
everyone
else
is
kind
of
those
neighborhood
breakdowns
are
in
the
30s
and
40s
and-
and
I
think
it's
pretty
clear
that
part
of
what's
playing
there
is
just
the
number
of
university
students
getting
tested.
And
so
I
wondered
I
mean
you
spoke
a
bit
about
how
our
data,
when
we
just
treat
each
individual
person
that
takes
out
some
of
the
dilution.
That
could
be
happening
here
from
our
universities,
who
are
repeatedly
testing.
S
But
I
know
I
think
I
could
probably
share
a
lot
of
counselors
concern
that,
with
that
repeated
testing
of
folks
who
are
being
very
closely
monitored,
that
we
don't
lose
sight
of
kind
of
of
of
of
increasing
spread,
and
particularly
in
our
populations,
that
aren't
being
as
closely
monitored
in
the
cities.
But.
P
So,
as
I
mentioned
that
the
data
we
do
look
at
testing
data,
positivity
rate
and
cases
with
college
data
without
college
data
included,
we
also
look
at
it,
those
those
factors
buy
by
neighborhoods.
So
we
are
very
conscientious
about
identifying
which
neighborhoods
have
higher
rates
of
positivity
have
higher
lower
numbers
of
testing
rates
higher
number
of
cases.
P
S
Sorry,
but
just
a
quick
clarifying
question
in
in
a
neighborhood,
an
area
where
we
have
a
lot
of
students
living
and
getting
tested.
So
in
the
way
neighborhood
do
you
guys?
Is
there
any
way
that
you
split
the
data
from
okay?
These
are
the
bu
tests,
and
then
these
are
like
community
members
who
are
going
to
defend
my
health
for
a
test
like
is
there?
S
S
How
do
we
map
those?
What
is
the
response
been
like
just
trying
to
kind
of
understand
what
that's
looked
like,
so
I
don't
need
an
answer
on
that,
but
like
right
now,
but
just
that
that's
an
information
request.
I've
been
getting
that
I
would
amplify,
and
I
think
I
realized
my
connection's
a
little
unstable.
S
Obviously,
this
year
we
went
in
the
other
direction
with
northeastern,
and
I
just
I
wondered
if
you
could
speak
to
how
many
it
wasn't
totally
clear
when
you
guys
were
doing
the
planning
about
how
many
of
northeastern
students
were
going
to
end
up.
I
know
obviously
about
the
midtown
and
the
westin,
but
sort
of
exactly
how
many
maps,
like
master
release
departments,
we're
going
to
end
up
with
this
year,
and
I
could
ask
the
same
thing
to
john
tobin.
F
Sure,
counselor
bach
I'd
be
happy
to
speak
to
that,
so
the
number
of
master
leased
buildings
that
are
being
that
were
reviewed
as
part
of
this
policy
were,
I
think,
around
15
or
16.
John
can
speak
more
specifically
to
those
numbers
or
sort
of
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
the
net
increase
in
the
number
of
units
that
have
been
master
released
by
northeastern
is
around
120
or
30
again,
john
feel
free
to
correct
me.
F
F
I
definitely
hear
your
concern
and
just
want
to
emphasize
that
by
no
means
is
this
going
to
be
permanent.
We've
established
from
the
beginning
that
this
is
a
non-precedent
setting
policy
and
so
at
the
end
of
covid,
all
of
the
units
will
be
reversed
back
to
their
original
sort
of
leasing
status,
and,
if,
at
that
point
should
not
eastern
want
to
include
them
again
into
their
institutional
portfolio,
we
will
go
through
the
standard
imp
review
process.
A
S
S
Just
look
right
past
it.
So
I'm
curious
whether
the
health
commission
has
been
thinking
about
and
has
been
organizing
the
universities
to
think
about
kind
of
how
how
you
cut
through,
like
people
just
having
gotten
used
to
the
signs.
The
messages
to
a
point
where
they're
not
taking
them
on
board
anymore
and
and
sort
of
like
continue
to
keep
people
focused
on
on
social
distancing
on
mask
wearing
on
all
kinds
kind.
All
these
kinds
of
things.
P
I
I
can
talk.
I
can
speak
to
our
communication
efforts
in
general.
At
bphc.
We
have
been
looking
at
our
materials
to
see
how,
as
we
see
the
demographics
shift
a
little
bit
within
within
who's
becoming
positive.
So,
for
instance,
we
mentioned
the
20
to
30
year
old
group
has
been
increasing
how
we
can
shift
our
messaging
to
outreach
around
that
group
to
outreach
around
youth
so
and
also
with
increased
rates
in
previously
spassin.
P
S
You,
okay,
sorry,
it
was
a
quick
follow-up,
just
as
that
does
bphc
have
any
centralized
place
for
students
who
are
not
students,
citizens
who
want
to
find
out
information
about
the
schools
that
are
not
the
big
four.
Like
I'm
thinking
about
fisher,
emerson,
suffolk
folks,
who
are
not
here.
I
know
that
I've
had
some
people
feel
like
it's
hard
to
get
the
information
on
what
the
testing
protocols
and
stuff
are
for
some
of
the
smaller
guys.
P
A
Thank
you,
and
so
now
I'm
gonna
take
my
time.
I'm
trying
to
make
this
very
quick.
I
certainly
won't
go
over
the
time
constraints
that
I've
asked
for
other
folks.
If
anybody
has
any
questions
for
this
first
panel
still
raise
your
blue
hand,
and
I
will
go
to
the
order
of
blue
hands
if
you
have
any
questions
for
the
boston,
public
health,
commission,
the
dpda
or
harvard
otherwise,
when
I
am
done,
you
are
all
free
to
leave
and
go
about
your
day,
and
so
we'll
start
now.
A
A
Okay,
so
that's
one
and
then
two,
I
know
that
our
numbers
have
obviously
been
rising
attributed
to
that.
I
think
it's
something
like
35
percent
between
you
know:
college
age.
It's
like
35
40
between
college-aged
areas.
Do
we
know
how
much
of
that
the
clusters,
but
also
how
much
of
that
increase
is
due
to
our
undergraduate
populations?
Is
that
traceable?
Are
we
able
to
identify
that.
P
So
we
do
again,
we
are
in
constant
communication
with
our
universities,
they're,
providing
information
and
in
our
own
data
reporting
system,
we
we
do
have
a
way
to
mark
if
they're
specifically
affiliated
with
a
university
or
college
cluster.
So
we
are
tracking
on
that.
If
it
is
marked,
I
will
say
a
number
of
those
cases
in
in
our
own
system.
We
can
see
in
the
20
or
in
the
20s
and
30s
that
are
not
necessarily
affiliated
with
universities,
so
we
we
do
have
a
way
if
it's
documented
our
system
to
monitor
that.
A
Thank
you,
and
then,
mr
hanley,
my
question
for
you
in
regards
to
testing,
not
just
students,
but
I
I
know
there
was
testing
in
place
or
testing
plan
in
place
for
essentially
affiliates
folks
who
are
working
within
harvard,
but
aren't
necessarily
harvard
personnel
directly.
What's
the
status
on
that
is
that
ongoing
is
that.
Is
that
something
that
we
can
mark
or
or
measure
on
the
culvert
dashboard
that
you
have.
G
G
But
what
I
can
tell
you
definitively
is
that
anybody,
even
a
contract
worker
who
is
on
harvard's
campus
for
more
for
for
four
or
more
hours
per
week,
is
being
asked
to
be
tested
for
sure,
so
that
testing
is
extended
to
to
folks
who
might
not
be
harvard
employees.
Although
again
our
faculty
staff
and
other
affiliates
metric,
I
think,
would
probably
capture
the
type
of
person
you're.
Referring.
A
A
Thank
you-
and
I
just
want
to
thank-
I
don't
see
any
hands
for
a
second
round,
so
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
their
patience
in
the
second
round,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
everybody
for
their
time
in
the
first
round,
especially
mr
hanley.
I
know
you
had
a
hard
stop
at
5
30,
so
I
apologize
for
whatever
happened
after
that.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
with
us
at
6
18..
A
I
appreciate
it
and
so
now,
with
the
second
panel,
we'll
be
going
into
it's
and
and
you're
you're
released.
So
if
you
don't
want
to
be
here
anymore,
you
can
head
out
if
you're
in
the
first
panel-
and
I
can't
imagine
you
would
want
to
be
here
anymore,
and
so
we
we
have
john
tobin
vice
president
city
community
affairs,
at.
A
Ken
ryan,
the
director
of
city
relations,
government,
community
affairs,
at
boston
university.
We
have
thomas
kitty
jr,
the
vice
president
of
governmental
and
community
affairs
at
boston,
college
and
gene
levesque,
the
director
of
government
relations
at
boston
college
and
also
some
affiliates
who
are
here
from
those
universities
specifically
to
answer
questions.
Here's
a
question
for
the
group.
At
the
moment
I
am
online.
Obviously
councillor
braden
councillor
janey
councillor
bach.
All
of
our
lead
sponsors
are
here
councillor
mejia
and
councillor.
A
A
I
recognize
you've
all
been
here,
though,
since
4
30ish
do
people
feel
like
they
would
like
to
jump
right
into
it
or
do
we
want
a
five-minute
break
so
folks
can
use
the
bathroom
or
do
whatever
they
have
to
do
and
then
come
back
in
five
in
exactly
five
minutes.
What
what's
the
boat
there
on
and
I'll
just
do
thumbs
up
thumbs
up?
A
C
Thank
you
councillor
arroyo.
I
really
appreciate
all
of
you
being
here
to
be
able
to
talk
talk
through
these.
These
questions
that
we
have
it's
a
complex
and
constantly
changing
environment.
So
I
appreciate
that
I
just
in
terms
of
the
off-campus
housing,
I
really
welcome
and
I'm
very
grateful
for
bc
for
agreeing
to
move
their
off-campus
students
who
test
positive
into
housing
on
campus
so
that
they
can
be
securely
monitored
and
and
provided
with
food,
etc
and
not
living
with
non-pa
roommates.
C
Who
test
tested
not
negative,
though
that's
a
really
big
step
forward,
and
we
really
appreciate
that
one
one
ongoing
question
is
the
this
that
seems
to
come
up
with
my
constituents
is
the
issue
around
team
sports.
I
know
that
there
was
a
video
and
this
is
directed
at
bc.
It
was
a
video
about
the
after
the
texas
game
last
week
of
the
the
team
celebrating
all
together
in
a
large
room,
no,
not
a
mask
in
sight.
C
I
know,
and
and
and
people
were
really
concerned,
that
that
sends
the
wrong
message
to
the
rest
of
the
student
body
about
what
is
appropriate,
behavior
and-
and
it
also
seems
that
you're
asking
part
of
your
student
body
to
live
like
in
a
much
more
restricted
way,
and
yet
your
team
players
are
are
allowed
to
to
do
that
sort
of
have
that
sort
of
experience.
So
it
seems
to
be
like
a
mixed
message.
Could
you
speak
to
that?
Please.
L
Yes,
counselor
you're,
absolutely
correct.
It
was
inappropriate
behavior
that
should
never
have
happened,
and
the
head
coach
of
the
boston
college
football
program
apologized
publicly
for
that
behavior
a
message
was
sent
to
the
athletic
director
and
to
the
head
coach
and
that
I
can
assure
you
will
never
happen
again.
Under
these
circumstances.
L
It
was
a
moment
in
time
because
boston
college
came
back
to
win
the
game.
It
was
a
great
football
game.
Unfortunately,
no
one
was
in
the
stadium
and
the
excitement,
I
think
overcame
them,
and
they
were
all
they
were
in
their
locker
room
when
that
video
was
was
taken,
and
so
the
people
responsible
have
been
reprimanded
for
that
and
the
coach
took
responsibility,
full
responsibility
for
that
and
we
apologize
publicly.
C
L
C
It
sends
a
mixed
message
and,
as
we
know
from
watching
the
patriots
this
week,
you
know
just
because
even
professional
footballers
aren't
immune
from
getting
infected
even
if
they're
tested
every
day.
So
it
is
it.
You
know,
I'm
I'd
hope
that
that
those
footballers
have
been
monitored
very
closely
just
to
see
if
they
actually
didn't
spread
any
covert.
In
that
context,.
L
C
L
L
C
D
You,
mr
chair,
thank
you
and
most
of
my
questions.
I'm
sure
all
of
my
questions
are
geared
toward
northeastern.
How
are
you,
mr
tobin
and
team,
I'd
be
really
interested
and
this
could
be
for
any
panelist,
but
specifically
for
northeastern
I'm
interested
in
lessons
from
the
the
fall
semester,
how
we
might
apply
them
to
spring?
I
would
like
to
get.
D
I'm
also
interested
on
the
theme
of
athletics
for
students
who
are
attending
any
of
again.
This
is
for
any
university,
but
in
any
of
your,
your
campuses
on
a
scholarship,
an
athletic
scholarship
and
cannot
play
because
of
covid.
Are
they
in
risk
of
losing
their
scholarship?
Has
any
student
lost
a
scholarship?
What
what
is
happening
is
this
going
to
impact
incoming
students
if
we're
worried
that
this
will
be
extended
throughout
2021,
in
terms
of
who
is
coming
into
your
campuses.
K
I'll.
Thank
you,
madam
president,
for
the
questions.
I
will
take
the
second
one
first
and
then
hand
it
off
to
david
luzzi,
who
adds
up
our
testing
with
regards
to
athletic
scholarships.
Even
though
we're
not
allowed,
we
made
the
decision
not
to
play,
or
our
league
decided
not
to
make
to
play
in
fall
sports.
That
does
not
mean
that
student
athletes
lose
their
scholarships.
K
I
I
And
then,
if
we
look
at
our
dashboard,
we
see
that
we
took
that
down
to
zero
to
one
new
cases
for
a
period
of
time.
That
tells
us
that
our
very
aggressive
testing
of
students
immediately
as
they
arrived
on
campus
and
then
two
days
later
and
then
two
days
after
that
so
days,
one
three
and
five
and
then
isolating
every
student.
That
of
course
tested
positive,
worked
in
terms
of
completely
containing
that,
because
a
number
of
young
people
of
course
are
asymptomatic.
I
So
they
didn't
know
they
had
covert.
They
traveled
with
covid,
arrived
on
campus,
but
we
were
successful
in
bringing
that
down
to
zero
and
getting
everything
completely
under
control.
You
know
a
few
days
after
move-in
ended,
so
so
that's
important
in
two
regards
one.
We
know
that
our
testing
and
isolation
protocols
worked
that's
clear
data
that
it
worked.
The
second
thing
is
that
a
big
chunk
of
our
total
student
cases
is
that
first
kind
of
pig
in
the
snake
there
that
came
in
during
move-in.
I
I
Compliance
has
been
very
high,
as
well
as
compliance
with
masks,
and
you
know
social
distancing,
etc.
We
have
a
student
tip
line
where
they
can
report
any
issues
they
see,
and
that
has
been
active
and
we've
been
responsive
to
that.
So
we're
very
confident
that
we
have
things
under
control
and-
and
you
know,
are
confident
as
we
move
forward
to
the
spring-
that
that
is
true.
I
Now,
as
we
go
into
the
spring,
we're
also
testing
systems
like,
for
example,
we
have
a
research
group,
that's
already
proven
that
they
can
see
covid
sars
cove.
That
is
the
virus
that
causes
covet
in
wastewater
at
the
deer
island
treatment
plant
for
boston.
They've,
now
shown
that
they
can
do
that
in
the
in
separate
buildings.
They
are.
I
B
I
Know
as
we
implement
those
things
we
will
be
going
into
the
spring
semester
with,
I
think,
an
even
more
robust
scenario
than
we
have
right
now,
so
this
is
more
tools
more
arrows
in
our
quiver,
so
we're
pretty
confident
going
into
the
spring
that
we
have
a
good
system
in
place.
Of
course,
you
know
how
good
the
flu
vaccine
is
is
a
very
interesting
wild
card,
but
you
know
we
are
on
top
of
that.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
I'm
wondering
in
terms
of
parties
and
gatherings.
It
sounds
like
you
guys,
have
some
good
strict
protocols
in
place
for
on
campus
or
the
big
hotels
where
things
might
be
happening,
but
in
neighborhoods,
where
students
are
living
kind
of
in
an
apartment
here
and
then
an
apartment
there.
How
are
you
monitoring
talk
to
me
about
how
you're
getting
at
the
off-campus
parties
and
behavior
that
is
unsafe
in
terms
of
public
health,
but
also
annoying
in
terms
of
quality
of
life
for
residents?
K
Thank
you,
madam
president.
If
this
is
an
issue
off
campus
that
quite
literally
keeps
us
up
at
night,
we
made
it
when
we
just
when
the
president
president
owen,
decided
to
bring
back
north
to
bring
northeastern
students
back.
We
understand
that
there
was
a
great
deal
of
conversation,
perhaps
consternation
amongst
neighbors
and
community
partners
about
that,
and
we
knew
that
if
we
were
going
to
do
this,
we
had
to
do
it
right.
We
had
to
be
diligent
and
that
included
not
just
on
campus
but
off
campus
as
well.
K
Our
students
who
live
in
the
fenway
and
mission
hill
and
roxbury
and
south
end
so
in
addition
to
our
the
bpd
boston
police
department,
patrol
that's
on
mission
hill
in
roxbury
on
thursdays,
fridays
and
saturday
nights,
which
is
now
a
mandatory
overtime
shift
that
has
a
university
representative.
Sometimes
it's
northeastern.
Sometimes
it's
wentworth.
Sometimes
it's
a
it's
the
college
of
pharmacy,
because
those
offices
can't
go
to
houses
on
their
own.
They
have
to
be
with
bpd.
K
All
the
time
through
mission
hill,
the
fenway
in
roxbury
until
those
police
overtime,
cars
take
over
at
11
45
pm
until
3
45
a.m.
There's
the
tip
line
that
was
established
of
northeastern
that
tip
line.
We
monitor
our
office
monitors
for
20
hours
of
the
day
and
then
any
tips
that
come
into
that
tip
line
go
into
that
boston,
police
cruiser
into
the
university
representative,
and
it
doesn't
matter
where
the
kid
is
from
we
sometimes
when
we
get
a
call.
K
We
don't
know
if
it's
a
northeastern
student
living
there
or
any
other
school,
that's
living
there,
but
we
respond
and
and
and
take
names
in
and
trying
to
adjudicate
matters.
We've
been,
I
think,
a
lot
of
most
students
have
been
adhering
to
the
practices
modeling
the
practices
they
they
learn
on
campus
off-campus
because
they
don't
want
to
go
home
either.
They
want
to
be
here
and
finish
out
the
semester
in
those
issues
we're
constantly
working
with
our
community
partners
and
just
being
a
constant
presence
out
there
rewarding
good
behavior.
K
By
the
same
token,
when
it
warrants
it,
you
know,
reporting
those
incidents
and
and
calling
in
boston
police.
When
we
have
to
but
more
importantly,
bringing
students
in
student
affairs
and
also
if
it's
a
student
from
another
university
that
we
find
to
be
out
of
compliance
or
a
large
gathering,
that's
coming
about,
we
share
that
information.
K
It's
very
important
that
all
the
colleges
and
universities
are
sharing
that
information
with
each
other
and
we've
been
doing
that
and
we're
not
taking
a
victory
parade
by
any
means,
but
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that
people
use
that
tip
line
in
that
community
neighborhood
groups
that
want
zoom
calls
like
this,
so
we
can
talk
about
our
protocols
and
and
anything
they
may
be.
Seeing
a
hearing
that
we're
not
aware
of,
we
need
to
know
about
it.
A
S
S
I
think
in
bu
parlance
they're
category
four
students,
so
students
who
are
living
off
campus
they're
not
going
to
campus
they're,
not
in
university
housing,
and
I
guess
at
least
on
the
neighborhood
side,
there's
a
perception
that
if
you're
in
that
category,
you
don't
have
to
be
tested
under
the
same
protocols
as
somebody
who's
in
university
housing
or
is
going
on
to
campus
for
some
of
the
learn
from
anywhere
classes.
So
just
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
how
many
people
are
in
that
category,
where
they
live
to
what
except
they
are
getting
tested.
J
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
question
counselor.
I
didn't
necessarily
have
that
that
particular
figure
in
front
of
me,
but
I
do
have
dr
waters
with
us
here
this
evening,
that
might
be
able
to
give
a
little
bit
more
information
about
that
testing
category,
in
particular
how
our
tested
protocol
works
when
it
comes
to
those
folks.
N
Yep,
so
certainly
students
can
be
in
different
categories
for
the
most
part,
its
faculty
and
staff,
who
would
be
in
category
four?
We
would
have
very
few
students
who
actually
live
in
the
boston
area
that
would
be
in
category
four,
so
any
student
who
comes
to
campus
regularly
is
going
to
be
tested,
so
they
will
be
so.
N
The
protocol
is
that
for
undergraduate
students,
they're
tested
twice
a
week
whether
they
live
on
campus
or
off
campus,
and
our
graduate
students
are
also
tested
once
a
week
whether
they
live
on
campus
or
off
campus.
So
there
should
be
very
few
students.
Anybody
who
would
be
in
category
four
is
not
allowed
on
campus
to
participate
in
any
activities.
They're,
not
a
part
of
the
campus
community.
S
Okay,
thanks.
That's
helpful,
I'd
love!
If
there
is
a
number
to
know
what
it
is,
but
that's
great
to
know,
and
could
you
speak
a
little
bit?
Can
too
this
is
really
a
repetition
of
the
question
I
think
councillor
wu
asked
mark
on
harvard's
behalf,
but
obviously
bu
has
stood
up
internal
testing
capacity
and-
and
I
know
there
is
this
question
about-
as
we
you
know,
especially
if
sort
of
our
covert
rates
rise
community
wide.
S
What's
the
university's
capacity
to
help
with
testing
the
broader
community
in
addition
to
the
bu,
I
know
you
haven't
made
any
commitments
on
that
front
yet,
but
I
would
love
to
understand
what
capacity
there
might
be
there
and
then
maybe
to
tag
on
to
that.
A
question
about
what
portion
of
your
tests
in
general
have
been
kind
of
about
vendors
and
contract
staff.
J
S
J
Again
for
the
question
counselor,
you
know,
I
know
you
know
early
into
the
semester.
Obviously
our
focus
has
been
number
one
on
our
community.
I
know
that
you
know
keeping
our
community
safe
tested
is,
what's
going
to
be
the
best
benefit
that
we
could
have
for
the
city
at
this
time
when
it
comes
to
the
testing
of
those
those
affiliate
workers
that
you're
talking
about,
we
do
in
fact
test
those
folks
and
they
are
built
into
our
numbers.
N
S
S
And
I
should
say
that
mr
tobin
has
been
on
frequent
zoom
calls
with
me.
He
referenced
these
and
they've
been
really
important,
I
think
to
our
fenway
in
michigan
hill
neighborhoods,
so
I
won't
get
into
the
details
that
we
talk
about
there,
but
I
would
like
to
understand
from
the
more
kind
of
workers
side
of
things
what
what
what
proportion
of
northeastern's
testing
is,
that
and
how
inclusive
you've
been
able
to
be
of
vendors
and
community
members.
K
I
S
I
T
A
A
Q
Know
and
and
it's
getting
late
so
we're
all
competing
with
who
has
the
cutest
dog
of
them
all
right
all
right,
so
you
did
win.
Let's
keep
this
moving,
I'm
just
curious.
This
is
for
ken.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
you're
monitoring
students
their
mental
health
during
this
time
and
what
resources
are
in
place?
I'm
and
this
could
be
for
anyone.
Q
J
U
Thanks
and
I
appreciate
the
question-
it's
an
important
one-
we
are
doubling
down
on
a
number
of
the
programs
that
we
have
been
doing
to
make
sure
that
we
are
able
to
give
people
both
individual
counseling
as
they
need
it,
but
also
the
group
counseling
is
important
too.
We've
beefed
up
the
way
you
know
so
there's
this
other
important
piece.
U
They
actually
need
the
physical
contact
and
we've
been
able
to
do
a
lot
more
of
that
through
you
know
both
our
fitness
and
recreation
spaces,
letting
people
exercise
letting
people
take
walks,
supervising
those
sorts
of
things
and
supervising
small,
very
small
activity
with
people
in
clubs
and
organizations.
We
also
have
both
group
mental
health
counseling,
but
also
individual
as
well
super
very
important,
and
we
are
looking
at
you
know.
We
also
have
to
look
at
ways
too
that
we
can
give
students
private
spaces
for
counseling
sessions
too.
U
So
all
these
things
are
the
sorts
of
things
that
we
are
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
do
we're
trying
to
keep
them
outside
as
much
as
possible
and
trying
to
keep
them
as
active
as
possible,
but
also
letting
them
be
able
to
buckle
down
a
little
bit
on
their
work.
Connections
with
their
families
are
still
very,
very
important,
and
it's
constantly
we're
constantly
trying
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
some
good
quality
mentoring
conversations.
U
One
of
the
things
that
we've
started
is
a
mentoring
program
or
mentoring
conversations
with
our
first
year,
students
we
want
to
try
and
make
sure
they
all
get
a
good,
solid
conversation
with
a
so-called
adult,
a
staff
member
or
a
faculty
member
here
you
know
these
folks
have
gone
through
some
incredible
transitions
and
they're
still
working
through
some
of
those
transitions.
So
I
do
appreciate
the
the
question.
It's
an
important
one
and
it's
one:
we've
got
to
stay
up
on,
so
thank
you.
U
I
could
have
one
other
thing
too.
You
know
we.
We
know
too,
that
we've
got
to
look
at
mental
health
in
a
lot
of
different
ways,
and
now
you
know
the
cultural
aspects
of
mental
health
are
very,
very
important.
We're
we're
seeing
some
things
that
we
haven't
seen
before.
Obviously,
with
the
with
the
you
know,
the
black
lives
movement
and
sort
of
a
healing
justice
movement.
You
got
to
take
different
approaches
with
that,
and
sometimes
these
are.
These
are
ways
that
you've
got
to
pull
people
together.
U
We're
also
seeing,
for
example,
ask
some
aspects
of
our
students
or
some
some
segments
of
our
students,
who
usually
never
took
us
up
on
counseling
and
mentoring,
who
are
now
coming
forth
for
that
and
they're
doing
it
collectively
in
communities
as
well.
So
that's
been
a
really
good
development
and
the
more
we
can
see
the
better.
So
thank
you.
Q
Thank
you
for
that
and
in
the
interest
of
keeping
the
conversation
going,
I'm
gonna
go
now
to
tom.
If
you
could
just
tell
me
or
anyone,
I'm
just
curious
about
the
protocols
that
are
in
place
for
faculty
and
staff
who
test
positive,
I'm
particularly
interested
thinking
about
the
dining
staff,
the
custodial
who
are
part-time.
Q
Does
this
mean
that
they
will
lose
their
pay
if
they're
not
able
to
work?
My
mom
is
a
food
handler
not
at
any
of
your
institutions,
but
she
does
work
on
a
college
campus
and
you
know
that's
definitely
a
concern
and
I'm
just
curious
about
how
your
universities
are
handling,
that
anyone
can
answer
that.
I
can.
V
Okay,
I'm
sorry
I
can.
I
can
address
that
counselor.
Thank
you
for
the
question
and
just
as
a
quick
follow-up
on
student
mental
health.
It
is
a
very
important
question
and
bc
also
has
launched
a
program
through.
It's
called
the
loan
together
through
our
counseling
services.
That
actually
has
provides
zoom-based
programs
and
workshops
for
students,
particularly
those
who
you
know,
want
to
either
see
a
counselor
or
in
a
group
setting
particularly
for
students
who
might
be
in
some
of
the
other
populations
lgtbq
here
on
campus.
V
So
it's
been
very
popular
and
it's,
and
it
was
also
raised
on
our
all
call
with
the
thursday
calls
about.
You
know,
making
sure
that
we're
addressing
both
physical
health
and
but
mental
health
as
well.
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
that,
as
far
as
the
testing
protocols
for
boston
college,
we
you
know,
we
started
with
the
baseline
test
for
everyone
that
was
planning
to
be
on
campus
here
in
the
fall,
we
started
with
testing
18
000
people
coming
in.
V
We
also
test
for
on
a
weekly
basis,
any
types
of
high
impact
areas
of
the
university
such
as
bc,
dining,
those
in
particular
police,
ras
folks,
who
are
coming
into
contact
with
students.
We
have
a
symptomatic
testing
program
as
well
as
asymptomatic.
All
bc,
faculty
and
staff
are
required
to
fill
out
a
symptom
check.
It's
it's
a
it's
a
downloaded
application
to
your
tablet
or
your
phone
every
day
check
off.
V
Q
Yeah,
no,
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
got
my
question
and
I'm
sorry
I
don't
mean
to
cut
you
off,
but
I'm
just
really
curious
about
staff,
particularly
custodians,
part-time
staff,
low-wage
workers
who
happen
to
work
on
campus
if
they
do
test
positive,
I'm
curious
about
their
ability
to
lose
pay
if
they're
unable
to
work.
I'm
just
curious
about
that.
In
particular.
V
I
I
could
get
back
to
you,
I
don't
know
the
answer,
but
I'm
I
at
this
point
they
would
come
in,
they
would
be
they're
tested
once
a
week.
I
don't
think
that
they
would
lose
pay,
they
would
quarantine
or
isolate
at
their
home,
and
I
miss
I'm.
I
would
check
into
that,
but
they
would
I'd
still
be
on
staff
and
being
paid.
Q
Okay,
well
because
I
know
that
some
low-wage
workers,
depending
on
what
type
of
union
representation,
if
any
they
will
not
be
covered
if
they
have
to
quarantine
for
two
weeks,
that's
two
weeks
without
pay
and
because
of
a
lot
of
our
low-wage
workers
who
are
working
in
institutions,
don't
have
the
disposable
income
to
just
sit
at
home
for
two
weeks
quarantining.
I'm
just
curious
about
what
that
looks
like.
So
I
just
want
to
just
put
that
out
to
the
universe.
A
Thank
you
councilman
here,
so
now
it
is
my
turn
and
then
we'll
go
into
a
second
round.
This.
This
question
is
for
every
every
university.
Specifically,
I
asked
this
in
july
and
my
hope
is
at
the
time
it
sounded
like
this
was
still
kind
of
a
work
in
progress,
and
I
hope
that
you've
got
some
more
firm
answers
here.
But
one
of
the
things
I
was
concerned
about
is,
in
my
own
college
experience.
A
What
solutions
have
your
individual
universities
come
up
with
to
ensure
that
a
student
who
is
really
dependent
on
being
a
resident
advisor
to
pay
for
their
housing
or
having
a
work
study
to
pay
for
their
materials?
What
aid
are
we
getting
beyond?
Just
you
can
apply
for
financial
aid.
What
what
specific
thing
are
we
doing
for
those
specific
members
of
the
community.
U
U
I
mean
that's
an
important
piece
that
they
can
be
a
resident
assistant,
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
we've
got
to
look
at
too
is
to
remind
ourselves
that
although
they're
working,
they're
still
students
and
we've
got
to
make
sure
they
can
still
be
students
and
do
the
sorts
of
things
that
we
need
students
to
do
like
get
their
work
done
and
not
to
be
in
fear
of
their
work
as
well.
So
our
resident
assistants,
for
example,
are
working.
U
So
we've
repurposed
jobs
for
students,
we've
tried
to
make
sure
students
have
jobs,
and
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are
they're.
Students
too,
and
that's
an
important
piece
and
from
the
financial
aid
front,
we've
been
really
good
about
trying
to
make
sure
that
things
like
scholarships
and
other
pieces
of
their
financial
aid
stay
relatively
intact.
U
We
also
know
that
students,
life
circumstances
may
have
changed,
and
our
financial
aid
options
allow
people
to
go
and
ask
for
additional
aid
to
see
if
they
can
be
aided-
and
you
know,
I
think
those
are
the
big
things,
and
I
would
also
say
too
one
of
the
things.
I
know
that
I
I
do
is
I
try
to
do
some
fundraising
to
make
sure
that
we
have
discretionary
dollars
available
to
help
out
a
student
who
may
need
something
because
of
a
change
in
lifestyle
circumstance,
or
maybe
that
job
doesn't
necessarily
materialize.
U
You
got
to
help
them
with
their
computer.
When
it
goes
out,
you
got
to
help
them
get
a
hot
spot
if
they
need
that,
and
you
know
that
all
goes
to
it
all,
and
if
that
student
had
a
job
or
didn't
have
that
income
that
they
relied
on,
you
got
to
be
ready
to
help
them
and
we've
got
some
mechanism
to
help
out
there.
A
A
A
So
that's
not
easy
to
do,
and
so
kudos
to
all
of
you
for
that,
but
in
terms
of
the
social
distancing
and
the
off
party,
the
off-site
parties,
which
I
understand,
are
kind
of
a
part
of
college
that
we
all
expect,
but
one
that,
in
this,
this
atmosphere
is
certainly
very
dangerous.
When
we're
looking
at
instances
where
whether
it's
bu
is
security
or
harvard
security,
who's,
not
here
for
northeastern
security
or
bc
security,
getting
involved
in
these
instances,
are
they
monitoring?
A
Are
they
enforcing
these
kinds
of
regulations,
the
mass
regulations,
the
social
distancing
regulations
and
when
we're
looking
at
the
individual-
and
I
think
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
believe
every
university
still
here,
northeastern
bu
and
bc
has
had
to
discipline
or
send
home
students
for
not
following
regulations.
I
believe
everybody's
done,
that
and
in
the
instances
in
which
that
is
happening
and
looking
towards
the
spring,
when
you
may
be
bringing
back
more
students.
What
is
the?
A
What
are
the
lessons
that
you're
learning
here
and
the
difficulty
it
is
to
contain
this
in
terms
of
you
know,
making
sure
people
follow
these
regulations
and
how
you
can
maybe
enforce
that
in
a
different
way,
but
also
in
terms
of
policing
this,
because
I'm
sensitive
to
this
from
two
two
areas.
One
is
you
know
these
are
19
18,
20
year
old,
kids.
I
call
them
kids,
even
though
I'm
32.
A
and
there's
a
reality
towards
you
know
where
they're
processing
in
in
just
in
general,
all
the
science
and
data
on
how
they
process
decisions
and
risks
and
all
of
those
different
things.
It's
why
we
talk
about
juvenile
sentencing
to
adult
sentencing
when
we
talk
about
sending
them
home
and
having
these
really
stringent
consequences
on
them.
A
I
understand
it:
a
hundred
percent
from
the
risk
that
they've
exposed
the
university
to
and
the
risk
that
they've
exposed
our
communities
to,
but
there's
also
sort
of
a
lack
of
restorativeness
to
that,
and
so
my
question
on
this
specifically,
is
when
you
are
essentially
doing
those
kinds
of
punishments
which
I
I
understand,
there's
probably
a
push
and
pull
on
this
right.
If
we
ask
like
12
different
13
different
counselors,
some
of
them
might
say,
send
them
home
immediately.
A
O
A
Decisions
very
well,
which
makes
it
essentially
your
jobs
to
put
them
in
a
position
to
succeed
in
this
environment
when
they
fail,
which
they
are.
I
mean,
we've
had
several
from
every
university.
At
this
point,
we've
had
multiple
parties.
The
party
line
exists
for
a
reason.
They
are
failing
at
this,
maybe
not
in
large
numbers
but
individually.
A
A
Some
kids
are
getting
sent
home,
there's
a
number
of
different
things
that
are
happening
so
there's,
obviously
some
kind
of
mechanism
that
some
of
you
are
using
for
the
severity
that
sends
you
home,
but
I
would
love
to
know
from
each
university
when
you're
dealing
with
these
students
and
these
individuals
and
these
essentially
these
these
young
adults
that
are
forming.
You
know
you're,
trying
to
create
lifelong
learners,
but
you're
also
trying
to
create
adults.
A
What
are
the
methods
that
you're
using
specifically
to
deal
with
this,
and
in
what
way
are
you
taking
into
account
what
kind
of
situations
these
kids
are
coming
from
individually?
What
kinds
of
situations
these
kids
are
being
exposed
to
at
home
or
if
they
go
back
or
off
campus?
What
kind
of
risk
they
have?
Because
the
reality
is?
I
told
every
university
that
was
here.
One
of
my
major
issues
with
this
is
that
we
know
that
students
don't
understand
risk
analysis.
A
We
know
that
insurance
car
insurance
knows
that,
and
so
the
question
is
you
know
that
what
are
what
is
happening
to
ensure
that
these
kids
aren't
just
getting
sent
home,
and
then
you
know
we
have
these
60
kids
from
bc
that
are
now
gone.
We
have
no
idea
what
that
means
for
them
and
their
ability
to
complete
their
studies
in
the
future
or
bu
or
northeastern
what?
What
is
the
totality
of
the
circumstances?
K
K
And
it's
important
to
note
you
know,
even
though
they
are
that
you
know
you
think
about
college
freshmen
and
they
lost
their
graduations.
They
lost
their
proms,
they
kind
of
lost
their
last
summer.
Of
being,
you
know
a
kid
essentially
and,
and
they
and
they're
in
a
hurry
to
get
things
going.
I
want
to
come
back
to
you
know
to
school,
I'm
just
speaking
for
northeastern.
K
All
of
our
freshmen
and
sophomores
are
required
to
live
on
campus.
That's
always
been
even
pre-covered,
that's
been
a
rule
that
doesn't
mean
they
don't
go
out
and
try
and
seek
out
off-campus
behaviors
that
are
detrimental
to
the
community
into
themselves,
and
they
also
had
an
opportunity
to
to
to
do
the
hybrid
program
to
do
the
new
flex
program.
K
We
also
made
a
pledge
to
to
our
neighbors
into
the
city
that
we
were
going
to
do
the
right
thing
and
when,
when
kids
weren't
in
compliance,
we're
going
to
judge
that
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
so
it's
important
that-
and
you
know
I
think,
the
most
effective
part
of
all
this
as
we're
learning
is,
is
not
just
us
as
adults
telling
the
kids.
What
to
do?
It's
really
using
that
peer-to-peer
relationship
and
conversations.
K
Kids
are
gonna,
listen
to
other
kids,
much
more
hey!
I'm
a
junior
here!
You're,
a
freshman!
Don't
mess
this
up
for
us.
We
want
to
stay
here.
We
want
to.
We
want
to
complete
out
the
semester
and
come
back
again
next
semester.
So
that's
a
very
important
part
of
the
conversation,
but
I
think
when
it
comes
to
you
know
to
compliance
and
you
know
into
bringing
kids
before
student
affairs,
I
think
it
you
know.
I
know
it's
definitely
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
U
Counselor,
I
think
I
think
you
did
a
little
bit
of
answering
some
questions
for
yourself
right.
I
think
you
laid
it
right
out.
This
is
about
being
firm
for
sure,
but
it's
about
being
fair,
and
I
think
that
what
you're
asking-
and
I
think
it's
important
here
is
we
employ
a
bit
of
compassion
here
and
that
we
have
to
you
know.
As
john
just
said,
you
know,
we've
got
to
look
at
each
case
on
its
own
merits.
U
We
got
to
give
that
student
a
chance
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
what
happened,
but
what's
more
who
they
are
and
what's
going
on
and
you're
right,
you
do
have
to
take
into
a
consideration
of
the
totality
of
this
person's
life,
this
young
person's
life,
and
it's
why
they're
here
they're
here
to
learn
and
everything
else.
But
you
also
got
to
be
firm
about
this
too,
and
you
got
to
make
sure
that
the
lessons
learned
are
the
right
lessons
and
that
you,
you
can
give
a
give
a
little.
U
You
know
mercy
and
compassion
are
pretty
important
right
now,
but
but
here's
the
thing,
though
this
covet's
got
an
urgency.
That's
really
important
to
consider
too,
and
you
don't
get
as
many
chances
and
you
got
to
make
sure
that
when
you're
talking
to
that
student,
that
you
give
them
a
sense
as
to
maybe
the
fact
that
they
have
very
little
room
for
slippage
in
some
of
their
cases
and
in
others,
maybe
what
they
did
gives
you
a
tiny
bit
more
space.
U
But
we
deal
a
lot
and,
and
I'm
the
person
who's
got
to
see
this
once
a
week.
I
sit
down
and
we
are
going
through
all
the
responses
we
need
to
make
to
students
for
a
variety
of
different
reasons.
Maybe
they
were
reported
for
not
wearing
their
masks.
Maybe
there
were
six
to
eight
of
them
who
were
just
trying
to
have
a
little
excitement
for
themselves
and
they
just
didn't
distance
the
way
that
they
needed
to.
U
I
you
know
I
and
we
try
to
look
at
each
individual
and
each
individual
circumstance,
but
we
also
try
to
say
to
these
young
folk
too.
I'm
a
person
who
says
you
are
a
young
person
but
you're
an
adult,
and
you
need
to
act
like
an
adult
and
you
got
to
grow
up
real
fast
right
now
and
we
will
do
our
best
to
try
and
help
you
as
best
as
possible.
U
But
if
you
do
it
more
than
once,
but
if
you
do
it
in
some
severe
circumstance,
I
may
not
be
able
to
help
you
the
way
that
you
need
that
help,
and
so
you've
got
to
think
this
through
a
bit.
I
I
will
say
that
we
can
affirm
that
we
give
every
individual
student
student
a
look
at
their
circumstance,
a
chance
to
tell
their
side
of
the
story
and
where
we
can,
where
we
can
and
we've
done.
U
You
know,
I'm
not
sure,
I'm
ready
for
the
community
doing
the
restorative,
because
I
think
right
now,
everybody's
out
for
a
head
everybody's
got
very
little
patience
with
this
sort
of
stuff,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
it's
incumbent
upon
people
like
me
to
try
and
advocate
for
everybody
in
this
situation,
including
the
student
who
might
have
offended
a
little
bit.
I
said
earlier,
we
got
to
make
sure
they
can
be
students
and
that's
an
important
piece.
It
takes
a
lot
of
work.
It
takes
a
lot
of
time.
U
I
think
I
feel
like
I
do
about
80
percent
of
my
work
on
kovid
right
now,
but
it's
really
important
to
keep
these
kids
in
school.
You
know
there's
so
many
students
out
there
who've
said:
hey
look.
You
don't
have
to
worry
about
me.
I'm
worried
about
this
other
person,
who's
going
to
get
me
sent
home
and
I
work
too
hard
to
be
here.
I
work
too
hard
to
get
where
I'm
at
I
put
too
many
resources
in
this,
I'm
not
going
to.
U
U
I'm
here
from
a
social
standpoint
to
advance
in
my
life,
and
I
need
to
get
this
done,
and
I
need
to
get
it
done
in
person
because
there's
a
very
different
quality
and
standard
of
being
here
in
person
than
than
getting
this
degree
online,
especially
for
a
young
person
and
especially
for
a
young
first
generation
student
or
a
young
immigrant
student.
This
online,
this
this
in
person,
experience
and
getting
a
chance
is
really
important,
and
so
they
they
know
how
to
do
that.
You
know.
U
The
other
thing
I
worry
about
too
is
that
we
sometimes
focus
on
one
kind
of
social
experience
as
being
problematic,
and
you
know
any
kind
of
social
experience
in
covid
is
really
important
to
make
sure
that
you're
doing
it
right.
So
you
know,
I
think,
that
focusing
in
on
a
type
of
experience
in
the
austin
brighton
area
or
the
fenway
area,
it's
one
type.
U
There
are
lots
of
ways
and
people
come
from
so
many
walks
of
life
where
they
socialize
and-
and
I
don't
want
them
to
think
that,
because
it's
not
a
humongous
party
with
25
people,
raucousing
in
the
street,
is
not
as
problematic
as
being
in
close
close
quarters
with
four
other
people
without
mask
on
either
just
sharing
a
little
wine
and
music.
That
could
be
problematic
too.
So
we
got
to
make
sure
these
messages
get
out
to
everybody
and
all
of
our
students,
and
also
this
notion
that
we
got
to
be
firm
about
this.
U
We
ought
to
be
on
top
of
this
and
serious
about
it,
but
we
got
to
be
fair
about
it.
The
other
piece,
too,
is
we're
planning
to
do
a
push.
You
know
everyone's
fatigued,
but
we
got
to
do
a
push
in
about
a
week
or
so
to
remind
people
about
some
of
the
social
messages,
physical
distancing
messages,
the
mask
wearing
and
also
the
small
but
distant
group
and
social
connections
that
are
important
too.
A
All
right,
so
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
for
that.
There's
there's
a
lot
there
and
so
I've,
certainly
at
time
yeah.
I
did.
I
put
a
lot
out
there
and
I
appreciate
the
thorough
answer,
because
the
reality
is
my
my
concern
is
these
are
still
children
and
so
the
way
that
you
know
as
a
society,
we
are
coming
down
real
hard
on
them
for
doing
things.
That,
frankly,
are
what
most
people
consider
part
of
a
college
experience.
A
They
just
can't
experience
right
now
right
and
I
think,
there's
a
valid
reason
for
that,
but
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
fair
to
those
students
as
we're
going
through
these
processes
and
that
they're
just
not
being
made
examples
of
in
a
way
that
is
going
to
cause
them
immense
harm
and
less
benefit
for
for
this,
our
communities.
Frankly,
and
so
with
that,
I
had
another
question,
I'm
sure
it'll
come
back
to
me.
We
do
have
a
second
round
coming,
we're
gonna,
try
and
keep
this
shorter.
A
I
believe
councilor
bach
had
questions
for
round
two.
I
I
don't
know
if
any
other
counselor
has
questions
for
round
two.
But
now
is
the
time
to
you
know
speak
now
and
and
then
I
guess
you
can
speak
after
kenzie
bach
counselor
brock
goes
because
then
at
that
point
you
can
you
just
say
I'm
good
but
counselor
back
the
floor
is
yours
for
your
round
two
questions.
S
S
And
certainly
I
know
that
in
the
neighborhoods
I
represent,
we've
seen
lots
of
students
taking
advantage
of
the
opportunity
to
gather
outdoors,
and
so
I
would
be
concerned
about.
You
know
that
them
wanting
to
gather
in
small
groups
in
the
same
way
they
do
now
and
not
having
outdoors
be
as
much
of
an
option.
S
The
students
are
expected
to
be
on
campus
when
they're
leaving
and
when
they're
coming
back
just
so,
we
can
have
a
sense
of
what
portion
of
those
colder
months
like
I
know
I
have
a
sense
of
the
bu
case,
but
less
of
a
clear
sense
from
northeastern
and
bc
about
about
the
calendaring.
So
if
you
could
just
speak
to
that,
a
little
bit
that'd
be
great.
K
Same
here,
counselor
with
regard
to
message
the
same
as
our
spring
communication,
which
was
set
in
place,
but
we
haven't
alerted
the
students
yet
so
we
want
our
students
to
know
about
this.
There'll
be
a
communication
coming
up
in
the
coming
days
regarding
thanksgiving
to
our
student
population
with
regards
to
outdoor
gathering
spaces
I'll
hand
that
off
to
to
kathy
spiegelman.
T
T
We're
looking
at
putting
furniture
in
lots
of
the
public
spaces
that
are
not
being
as
well
used
because
of
the
social
distancing
that
and
rearrangement
that
we've
done
in
many
of
the
buildings
on
campus
and
we're
also
looking
at
heaters
outdoor
heaters,
we're
working
with
the
city
on
what
the
permitting
and
the
safety
issues
are
around
that.
But
the
idea
is
to
try
and
help
our
students
have
opportunities
both
outside
and
inside
understanding.
T
But
our
intention
is
to
discourage,
if
they're,
going
to
go
home,
we're
going
to
discourage
them
from
having
to
come
back.
If
they
do
come
back,
we'll
expect
them
to
test
and
have
two
negative
tests
before
they
could
participate
in
campus
activities,
including
going
to
classes,
and
since
our
semester
ends
less
than
two
weeks
from
when
the
thanksgiving
holiday
ends.
T
There
won't
be
much
incentive
for
students
to
go
and
come
back
and
all
of
the
finals
will
be
online,
so
would
just
if
they
want
to
stay
and
and
then
they'll
keep
with
the
testing
protocol
of
every
three
days.
But
if
they
go
home,
we're
we're
going
to
put
something
a
message
out
to
them
to
sort
of
discourage
them
from
traveling
and
then
coming
back.
U
U
We're
looking
at
a
lot
of
the
similar
kinds
of
things
that
are
about
extending
the
outdoors,
you
know.
One
thing
I
will
say
is
that
you
know
pretty
soon
and
especially
once
november
starts
to
hit
their
academics
tends
to
discipline
them.
We
we
tend
to
see
it
about
mid-october,
certainly
right
into
early
november.
U
These
professors
come
out,
hey
swinging,
and
so
they
tend
to
take
a
lot
of
that
time
and
especially
where
the
social
on
the
thursday
friday
saturday
nowadays
has
been
severely
limited,
and
there
are
not,
as
many
places
available,
they're
doing
their
work,
and
so
the
academics
will
discipline
them
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
using
in
terms
of
coming
together
as
well.
But
we
we
do
worry
about
that
too.
S
Great
well,
thank
you
all
and
I
would
be
remiss
not
to
say
as
a
crossover
from
another
hearing
and
seeing
counselor
mejia
reminded
me
of
it
that
we,
we
are
looking
for
places
to
help
our
restaurants
and
small
providers
store
stuff
over
the
winter.
In
between
the
this
december
first
deadline
for
outdoor
heating,
eating
and
and
and
then
march,
you
know
when
we
hope
it'll
start
back
up.
S
A
Thank
you
so
much,
and
I
know
we
have
five
attendees
in
the
in
the
public
chat
section
waiting
to
get
public
comments.
So
I
appreciate
very
much
so
you're
you're
being
here
for
this
long.
I
see
you
have
your
hand
up
counselor
mejia.
So
the
floor
is
yours
for
the
second
round
of
questioning
and
then
I
believe
we
can,
after
your
questioning,
if
anybody
wants
to
give
a
closing,
you
can
I'll
give
a
brief
closing
and
then
we
can
go
straight
to
our
public
comment.
Q
Q
Yes,
thank
you,
and
I
won't
take
up
too
much
of
your
time
because
we
have
people
waiting
for
testimony.
I
am
just
curious,
but
first
of
all
thank
you
all
for
staying
so
long
and
for
sharing
all
of
the
amazing
work
that
you're
doing
to
keep
our
residents
safe,
really
do
appreciate
your
efforts
and,
as
counselor
bach
mentioned,
I
was
going
to
ask
you
all,
because
I
always
do
just
to
give
a
little
bit
more.
Q
Right
now
who
are
experiencing
connectivity
issues
because
of
the
the
digital
divide
is
real
and
so
just
gonna
plug
that
as
another.
Something
else
for
you
all
to
think
about
in
ways
that
you
might
be
able
to
support
residents,
particularly
we
have
over
close
to
three
thousand
students
in
the
city
of
boston
that
right
now
are
unable
to
connect,
and
so
whatever
you
all
can
do
on
that
front,
it
is
cover
related,
because
you
know
this
is
covet
situation
here
and
they're
doing
remote
learning.
Q
So
this
is
a
conversation
and
yeah,
that's
it.
I
just
wanted
to
just
put
that
out
there
and
I
really
do
appreciate
kind
of
your
thorough
response
in
terms
of
the
mental
health.
I
think
that
that's
an
issue
that
a
lot
of
students
are
carrying,
and
so
I'm
glad
to
see
and
hear
that
you
all
are
on
the
forefront
and
doing
some
work
around
that.
That's
really
important.
A
D
D
A
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
With
that,
I'm
gonna
go
to
our
public
comment
period.
There
are
five
people
here.
I
expect
that
every
single
one
of
you
would
like
to
give
public
comment,
and
so,
if
you
can
just
raise
your
little
blue
hand,
but
we're
going
to
start
with
lori
rodman
who
will
go
first,
there
is
just
name
association,
affiliation
or
neighborhood,
and
then
you
can
jump
right
into
your
two
minutes
of
testimony
and
I'll
be
keeping
time
on
that
and
I'll.
A
Just
let
you
know
so.
Just
please
do
put
the
blue
hand
up
so
that
I
know
that
if
you
are
here,
it
is
because
you
want
to
speak.
I
expect
that
it
is,
but
I
would
I
would
I'm
not
going
to
just
go
to
somebody
and
see.
So
if
you
have
the
blue
hand
up
or
you're
on
my
list,
you
will
get
hit
so
lori.
Can
you
hear
me.
A
W
W
So
there's
an
increase
in
the
community
when
there's
in-person
return
and
the
investigators
concluded
that
colleges
with
in-person
teaching
were
associated
with
more
than
3
000
additional
u.s
covet
cases
per
day.
That's
3,
000
coveted
cases
per
day
when
there
was
in-person
teaching,
and
this
was
per
day,
so
it
doesn't
even
account
for
the
exponential
spread
number.
W
Two,
what
to
do
about
this,
so
researchers
studied
phased
reopenings
and
once
the
college
had
assured
that
students
weren't
bringing
kova
to
campus
there
were
models
generated
about
how
to
phase
reopenings
and
the
best
model
is
as
follows.
One
group
of
students
comes
to
campus
at
the
start
of
term
the
sex.
The
next
group
of
students
comes
no
earlier
than
one
month
after
starter
term,
and
the
next
group
comes
no
earlier
than
two
months
after
the
start
of
term.
W
W
Three,
a
thorough
assessment
of
on-campus
and
community
factors
should
be
done
before
reopening
in-person
classes
in
order
to
prevent
spread
to
the
community
or
mitigate
it.
So
there's
a
very
good
article.
All
the
research
that
I'm
citing
is
embedded
in.
My
public
written
testimony,
so
there
are
a
lot
of
factors
to
assess
and
plan
in
terms
of
anticipating
vulnerabilities
when
college
campuses
reopen
so
one
factor
that
I'll
talk
to
in
a
minute
is
the
vulnerability
of
all
the
communities
that
the
counselors
have
been
talking
about:
fenway
roxbury
mission,
hill
and
so
on.
W
So
looking
at
this
science,
I
do
have
some
perspectives
to
share
considering
what
we
know
about
community
spread
when
there's
in-person
classes,
colleges
should
report
transparently
their
covered
data,
and
it
should
include
the
number
of
new
infections,
the
number
of
total
infections,
the
transmission
rate
and,
most
importantly,
the
correlations
between
campus
and
community
cases.
That
correlation
number
is
going
to
be
important,
because
if
it's
positive-
and
you
know
high,
it
says
something
about
what
the
in-person
teaching
at
that
college
is
doing
to
the
local
community.
W
Considering
the
sciences,
colleges
should
be
strongly
urged
to
face
reopenings.
I
listened
to
a
lot
about
coming
back
for
the
spring
semester.
There's
science
that
supports
a
certain
kind
of
phasing
in
and
if
a
college
isn't
going
to
do
that,
I
think
they
should
explain
the
rationale
why
they're
not
doing
it
and
finances
is
not,
in
my
opinion,
a
sufficient
rationale.
W
The
third
point
that
I
made
in
the
science
was
thorough
assessments
should
be
done
with
interventions
identified
when
vulnerabilities
exist.
So
last
I
listened
to
the
whole
july
hearing
and
I
heard
about
give
backs
like
refrigerators
and
housing
for
pine
street
workers.
I
heard
some
of
those
things
today,
they're
all
great
but
they're,
not
interventions
to
stop
community
spread,
and
so
the
communities
that
suffer
we
know
are
experiencing
high
health
care
inequities,
and
this
the
colleges
should
be
doing
something
to
help
the
health
of
that
community.
W
A
couple
of
examples
they
could
be
offering
free
testing
they
could
be
having
on
campus
community
clinics
for
people
with
chronic
disease
who
are
even
more
vulnerable
or
they
can
limit
the
number
of
returning
students
and
my
last
point
is
the
boston
resident.
I
would
like
to
know
how
many
public
health
dollars
are
being
spent
to
deal
with
covenant
on
campus.
A
X
Ahead
and
close
yourself,
thank
you
and
good
evening.
My
name
is
jade
tan.
I'm
the
public
health
advisor
in
the
tech
for
liberty
program
at
the
aclu
of
massachusetts.
I
submit
this
public
comment
to
provide
some
civil
liberties
and
civil
rights
related
information
on
behalf
of
the
aclu
and
our
10
000
plus
members
and
supporters
in
boston.
X
Using
tools
like
social
media
surveillance
to
track
student
behavior
could
have
the
unintended
consequence
of
making
students
less
likely
to
honestly
disclose
their
behavior
to
university
health
workers
and
put
the
community
at
greater
risk
of
uncontrolled
virus
transmission.
Trust
is
central
to
public
health
and
surveillance
and
invasions
of
privacy
undermine
trust
in
the
interest
of
privacy.
The
following
considerations
should
be
taken
into
account
when
deciding
whether
and
how
to
use
apps
one.
What
does
the
app
try
to
do?
X
Does
it
administer
daily
health
surveys,
reminds
students
and
employees
to
get
tested
or
provide
daily
exposure
notifications?
Does
it
connect
to
testing
or
treatment
regimes?
Will
it
help
students
and
employees
get
in
touch
with
campus
health
services
or
tell
them
where
to
get
tested?
Does
it
record
their
movements?
The
aclu
is
skeptical
of
location,
tracking
and
proximity
tracking
as
anti-coronavirus
measures
and
oppose
the
use
of
the
former.
In
all
circumstances,
two
is
the
app
used
as
an
enforcement
device.
X
Any
apps
used
to
ensure
compliance
and
quarantines
or
social
distancing
rules
dramatically
raise
the
stakes
around
their
accuracy
and
dependability
three.
What
data
does
the
app
collect?
Does
it
require
students
and
employees
to
identify
themselves,
or
can
it
be
run
anonymously?
Does
it
collect
health
information?
If
so,
does
the
collection
of
that
data
align
with
current
public
health
advice?
Does
it
collect
location
data
or
associational
data?
How
frequently
does
it
collect
any
such
information?
X
Number
four?
Are
data
stored
centrally
or
only
on
the
devices
used
by
employees
and
students,
data
stored
in
the
cloud
or
on
university
servers
raise
many
more
privacy
issues
than
data
stored
locally
on
phones,
five,
who
has
access
to
the
data
collected
by
the
apps,
a
company,
school
administrators,
campus
or
town
police
others,
if
used
as
an
enforcement
measure,
who
is
notified
of
suspected
social
distancing
violations,
administrators
academic,
deans,
campus
police,
six
is
it
voluntary?
X
Are
students
and
employees
given
a
choice
about
whether
to
use
it?
Are
there
places
on
campus?
They
can't
go
or
classes
they
can't
take
without
the
app
seven
what
policies
govern
the
app
and
the
data
it
produces?
Have
administrators
communicated
with
students
and
employees
about
its
security
or
privacy
protections?
Are
those
protections
strong,
eight?
How
much
control
do
students
and
faculty
have
over
the
app?
If
use
is
not
voluntary,
can
they
turn
location,
tracking,
off
pause,
posit,
etc?
Or
is
it
this
the
functional
equivalent
of
an
ankle
bracelet?
X
Nine?
What
servers
does
the
app
talk
to
some
apps
are
built
with
third-party
software
development
kits
known
as
sdks
that
are
unnecessarily
intrusive,
show
advertisements
or
consume
the
students,
an
employee's
battery
or
data
plan?
And
lastly,
10
is
the
source
code
for
the
app
available?
Have
students
or
faculty
at
the
university
have
the
opportunity
to
review
that
code
to
verify
that
the
app
operates
as
advertised
and,
if
not,
why
not?
X
Students
and
employees
should
ask
these
questions
of
any
school
administration
that
is
using
an
app
to
try
to
control
the
spread
of
the
coronavirus.
These
efforts
may
be
made
in
good
faith,
but
could
have
a
negative
impact
if
privacy
is
harmed,
thereby
reducing
trust
in
public
health
efforts.
Overall,
please
do
not
hesitate
to
contact
us
if
you
need
further
assistance
with
the
issues
discussed
in
this
public
comment.
Thank
you
very
much.
Counselor
oil.
A
B
A
A
B
Yeah
so
I
live.
I
live
at
144
beacon
street
in
the
back
bay.
Until
a
few
weeks
ago,
I
was
chair
of
the
neighborhood
association
of
the
back
bay
and
did
in
fact
get
involved
in
conversations
with
some
of
the
universities
about
their
college
reopening
plans,
because,
naturally,
our
community,
which
is,
shall
we
say
slightly
older
than
average,
is
very
concerned
and
was,
was
and
is
very
concerned
about
the
relationships
between
colleges
and
and
members
of
the
members
of
the
community.
B
I
have
a
number
of
observations
to
make
and
then
maybe
some
questions
that
can
perhaps
be
addressed
at
some
point
in
the
future.
The
first
is
that
it
seems
to
me
that
this
is
this
is
going
to
be
a
long-term
issue.
I've
certainly
had
confirmed
by
the
discussions
that
it's
not
as
if
somehow
miraculously
in
the
spring
semester,
and
maybe
even
a
year
from
now,
we
will
be
out
of
the
woods.
B
B
Indeed,
we're
fortunate,
I
think,
in
boston,
in
the
as
far
as
I
can
tell
most
of
the
adults
in
positions
of
authority
seem
to
be
responsible
and
knowledgeable,
but
that
is
clearly
not
the
case
in
many
other
parts
of
the
country
and,
of
course,
students
amongst
others,
who
come
who
come
to
the
boston
era,
come
from
all
places
in
in
this
nation
and
therefore
are
subject
when
they
go
home
to
the
worst
of.
What
can
what
can
happen,
and
I
won't
go
into
into
any
details.
I
think
you
know
who
and
what
I'm
talking
about.
C
B
B
B
So,
all
in
all
what
I
would
what
I
would
like
to
see
in
the
final
point
I'll
make
is,
is
the
one
that's
been
raised
by
several
people
about
the
digital
divide.
We've
talked
about
what
universities
and
colleges
can
do,
but
I
would
draw
your
attention
to
the
private
sector,
the
the
major
huge
suppliers
of
broadband
access,
verizon,
comcast,
att
and
so
forth.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
that,
and
that
was
our
final
public
comment,
and
so
with
that
I'm
just
gonna
say.
Thank
you
again.
I
noticed
the
northeastern
boston
university
have
stayed
on
for
public
comment,
so
I
appreciate
that
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
reference
that
as
well
as
my
fellow
counselors
boston
college
is
still.
R
U
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
so
much
for
making
sure
that
was
clear,
so
bubc
in
northeastern
stuck
around
for
public
comment,
which
always
means
quite
a
bit
for
me
because
as
panelists
you're
really
here
for
the
panel,
but
when
you
stay
to
listen
to
the
public
that
matters.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
want
to
thank
our
counselors,
who
were
here
for
the
entire
hearing:
counselor
bach
counselor
janie.
Well,
president
janie
councillor
brayden
and
councillor
mejia,
and
I
want
to
thank
folks
who
stayed
on
to
give
public
comment.