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Docket #0849 - Message and order for your approval of the receipt of a Preservation Restriction Agreement on 41 Melrose Street, Boston, Ma 02116 by the Society for the Preservation of New England Antiquities d/b/a Historic New England
A
I
will
be
chairing
the
hearing
this
morning
in
accordance
with
chapter
20,
of
the
acts
of
2021
modifying
certain
requirements
of
the
open
meeting
law
in
relieving
public
bodies
of
certain
requirements,
including
a
requirement
that
public
parties
conduct
its
meeting
in
a
public
place
that
is
open
and
physically
accessible
to
the
public.
The
city
council
will
be
conducting
this
hearing.
Virtually
this
enables
the
city
council
to
carry
out
its
responsibilities
while
adhering
to
public
health
recommendations
and
ensuring
public
access
to
its
deliberations
through
adequate
alternative
means.
A
A
City
council
dash
tv
via
broadcast
xfinity,
it
will
also
be
rebroadcast
at
a
later
date.
Anyone
that
would
like
to
testify
on
this
matter.
Please
email,
juan.lopez
boston.gov
for
the
zoom
link.
Today's
hearing
is
undocked
zero,
eight
four,
nine
doctor
zero,
eight
four
nine
message:
in
order
for
your
approval
of
the
re
receipt
of
a
preservation
restriction,
agreement
on
41,
melrose
street
boston,
mass
02116
by
the
society
of
the
preservation
of
new
england,
antiques,
dba,
historic,
new
england.
A
At
this
time
I
would
like
to
recognize
the
panel
that
is
here
and
that
is
testifying.
John
cornish,
who's,
the
director
of
design,
review,
boston,
landmarks,
commission
in
roseanne,
foley,
the
executive
director,
boston
landmarks,
commission.
A
Usually
I
would
ask
my
council
colleagues
if
they
want
to
give
an
opening
statement.
I
don't
think
they're
here
yet,
but
if
they
do,
I
will,
I
will
call
on
them
at
this
time.
I
would
like
to
ask
joseph
or
roseanne
whoever
would
like
to
go
first
to
provide
an
opening
statement,
and
then
we
can
take
questions
from
my
colleagues
if
necessary,
so
so,
maybe
joseph
or
roseanne.
Whoever
would
like
to
go.
First.
B
B
So
we
have
to
wear
our
masks
so
I'll,
be
as
loud
as
I
can,
but
we're
here
with
a
project
where
we're
seeking
the
approval
of
a
preservation
restriction,
agreement
to
be
held
by
the
society
for
the
preservation
of
new
england,
antiquities
doing
business
as
historic,
new
england
and
a
preservation
restriction
agreement
is
a
private
agreement
between
a
property
owner
and
a
qualified
preservation.
B
Easement
holder,
and
in
this
case
historic
new
england,
is
a
qualified
holder
of
a
preservation
restriction
agreement,
and
this
is
a
private
agreement
between
historic,
new
england
and
the
property
owner
where
certain
work
can
is
outlined
in
the
agreement,
which
can
and
cannot
take
place
without
the
prior
review
and
approval
of
the
preservation,
easement
holding
organization
and
the
reason
we're
seeking
approval
is
through
massachusetts,
general
laws,
chapter
184,
section
32,
which
requires
the
approval
of
boston,
the
sea
of
boston
and
the
massachusetts
historic
commission
to
render
this
private
agreement
perpetual.
C
Thanks
joe
you're,
the
you're,
the
expert
on
this,
this
kind
of
agreement,
so
thanks,
that
was
a
great
summary.
B
Okay,
I
did
submit
a
presentation-
I
don't
know
if
that's
available
now,
if
someone
has
that
available,
that
shows
the
property.
A
Joe
before
before
you
continue
I'd
like
to
recognize
my
colleague
city
council,
kenzie
bark,
at
this
time,
council
block,
would
you
like
to
offer
an
opening
statement.
D
Thank
you
so
much
councillor
flynn
just
to
say
this
is
a
property
of
a
personal
interest
to
me,
because
it's
just
a
few
doors
down
from
35
melrose
street,
where
I
grew
up
and
my
folks
still
live,
but
also,
as
people
know,
I'm
a
great
proponent
of
historic
preservation.
D
I
think
preservation
restrictions
are
an
important
way
for
us
to
preserve
some
of
the
features
that
are
not
protected
under
our
historic
districts,
especially
when
you
talk
about
interiors
and
other
things,
and
so
yeah
excited
to
learn
more.
Although
it's
a
house,
I've
passed
my
whole
life.
I
don't
know
the
details
really
about
the
property
and
the
arrangement.
So
looking
forward
to
that,
and
just
as
as
always,
we
thank
roseanne
and
joe
for
their
amazing
work
in
this
neck
in
this
area,
and
thank
you
councillor
flynn,
for
cheering.
A
Thank
you,
council
block,
sorry
to
interrupt
joe.
If
you
want
to
continue.
B
Certainly
so
I
will
just
begin
by
saying:
on
february
9
2021,
the
boston
landmarks
commission
recommended
approval
of
the
city
of
the
preservation,
restriction
agreement
and
historic
new
england.
I
should
be
upfront
to
say
that
I
managed
this
program
before
I
became
employed
with
the
city
of
boston,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
program,
which
is
and
has
been
a
great
way
for
historic
new
england
to
extend
its
preservation
of
buildings
throughout
new
england
and
historic
new
england
currently
holds
five
preservation.
B
Restrictions
on
properties
in
boston
here
are
three:
the
charles
street
meeting
house,
old,
west
church
and
all
saints
ashmont
in
dorchester.
If
we
can
have
the
next
slide,
and
in
july
this
property
at
59
mount
vernon
street.
We
brought
to
the
city
council
for
the
approval
of
a
preservation
restriction
on
this
property.
So
you
know
this
is
probably
familiar
to
some
of
the
people
on
this
call.
B
B
For
a
local
mason
named
howell,
matson
and
bay
village
is
a
unique
neighborhood
in
that
most
of
its
early
residents
were
in
the
building
trades.
There
were
staircase
makers,
carpenters,
plasterers
painters,
as
well
as
the
makers
of
musical
instruments,
and
if
we
can
have
the
next
slide.
B
These
are
the
interior
features
that
the
organization,
historic
new
england
will
be
preserving,
and
I
should
mention
that
this
is
really
unique
as
a
very
intact
example
of
greek
revival.
Architecture
in
the
city
of
boston,
where
most
of
these
row
houses,
unfortunately
have
lost
many
of
their
early
interior
details.
B
B
You
know
here
other
examples.
If
you
look
very
carefully,
you
can
see
the
nice
ornamentation
at
the
corner,
blocks
and
window
surrounds
in
this
in
this
room,
and
if
you
look
closely
at
the
ceiling,
this
pressed
tin
ceiling
is
a
later
addition,
probably
from
the
later
19th
century,
but
it
will
also
be
protected
as
part
of
this
agreement.
B
Next
slide
more
of
the
staircase
that
will
be
protected
next.
B
So
in
approving
this
preservation
restriction
agreement,
the
city
of
boston
will
have
no
responsibility
in
its
in
in
the
enforcement
of
it.
It
is
just
a
private
agreement
that,
fortunately,
will
protect
more
of
this
building
than
is
currently
protected
by
the
work
of
the
bay
village,
historic
district
commission.
B
So
with
that,
I
can
open
it
up
for
questions.
If
people
have
questions.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Joseph
welcome.
The
the
presentation
you
provided
was
very
informative
and
I
know
certainly
to
me,
educational
and
I
always
take
the
opportunity
when,
when
I'm
sharing
a
meeting,
is
to
try
to
educate
the
public
as
well.
I
don't
know
all
that
much
about
this
issue,
although
I'm
I'm
fascinated
by
it-
and
I
know
the
public
is
as
well
so
joseph.
Can
you
tell
us
what
can
you
tell
us?
The
the
agreement
is
between
tell
us
between
what
parties.
B
The
current
property
owner
and
historic
new
england,
the
not-for-profit
organization.
A
B
Sure
it's
a
preservation
tool
and
some
people
may
be
familiar
with
the
terms:
preservation,
easement
or
preservation
covenants,
basically,
they're
they're
somewhat
similar
there.
They
are
restrictions
that
are
recorded
at
the
registry
of
deeds
and
they're
binding
on
the
current
and
all
future
owners.
So
it's
some
people
refer
to
them
as
well
as
deed
restrictions.
A
So
if
they,
if
they
wanted
to
do
if
the
private,
if
the
owner
of
the
home,
wanted
to
do
potential
renovations
on
the
house,
what
would
the
what
would
the
process
be
if
these
were
re
restrictions
were
were
in
place.
B
Yeah,
so
they
will
still
need
to
go
through
the
bay
village,
historic
district
commission
for
exterior
work,
that's
visible
from
the
street
and
at
the
roof
for
work
inside
as
well
as
anywhere
outside
the
building.
They
will
have
to
work
with
historic,
new
england
to
get
its
review
and
approval.
So
they're
going
to
be
two
separate
avenues
or
two
separate
approvals
that
the
property
owner
will
need
to
get
and
the
preservation
restriction
agreement
does
exempt
certain
areas
at
the
interior.
So
kitchens
and
bathrooms
are
exempted
from
this
restriction.
B
A
I
should
have
noted
at
the
beginning.
I
also
represent
the
bay
village
and
I'm
proud
to
represent
the
bay
village.
It's
a
wonderful
neighborhood
and
I
was
on
this
street
just
several
weeks
ago.
Let
me
let
me
ask
another
another
question
joseph.
Unfortunately,
if
there
was
a
issue
with
the
roof
say
the
roof
is
leaking
and
there
was
damage
to
the
roof
or
damage
to
the
structure.
A
What
would
the
process
be
for
the
owner
to
go
about
renovating,
making
improvements,
making
making
you
know
dealing
with
that
leaky
roof
and
how
to
how
to
deal
with
that
type
of
emergency
situation?
I
guess.
B
Sure
so
the
preservation
restriction
agreement
has
certain
insurance
requirements,
so
they
are
the
owner
and
current
owners
will
be
required
to
carry
a
certain
amount
of
insurance
on
the
property.
So
you
know
that
will
ensure
that
there
is
money
for
repairs
again.
B
If
it's
a
leaky
roof
they'll
have
to
submit
an
application
to
the
bay
village,
historic
district
commission,
which,
if
it's
an
emergency
repair,
and
they
can
document
the
water
entering
the
building,
we
can
approve
their
building
permit,
but
they
will
separately
have
to
go
to
historic,
new
england
to
seek
a
similar
emergency
repair
and
historic.
New
england
is
unique
in
that
it
has
paid
full-time
staff
to
enforce
and
work
with
the
owners
of
these
properties.
So
they
they
do.
Have
the
the
staff
ability
to
respond
quickly.
A
So
if
it
was
more
than
emergency
repairs
well,
if
they
were
doing
emergency
repairs
and
they
needed
to
get
it
done
immediately,
but
other
improvements
as
well
would
they
will
they
need
to
go
to
the
vba
at
all
or.
B
For
anything
yeah,
anything
that
would
be
zoning
required,
they
would
still
they
would
still
have
to
meet
all
zoning
requirements.
But
again
to
go
back
to
your
question
about
emergencies.
B
B
B
Sure
I
know
again,
I
can't
answer
that
specifically
for
historic
new
england.
I
know
they
work
with
property
owners
all
over
new
england
to
to
you,
know,
create
and
enforce
these
preservation
restrictions.
We
get
probably
two
or
three
a
year
to
submit
for
approval
by
the
city.
So
we
had
the
the
house
at
59,
vampirin
street.
B
A
And-
and
I
guess
my
final
question-
I
don't
want
to
take
up
all
the
time
I'll
because
the
council
blockers
here
too,
but
just
on
the
on
the
space
between
the
two
houses,
the
that
leads
from
the
front
to
the
back.
What
what's
the
significance
of
that?
I
know
it's
to
get
to
the
garden,
but
is
that
also
used
for
bringing
the
trash
barrels
out
and
what
other?
What
other
type
of
issues
call
for
that.
B
Right,
I
believe
it's
a
landlocked
parcel,
so
it
would
be
the
you
know,
the
other
kind
of
egress
to
get
from
the
back
garden
out
to
the
street,
so
you're
completely
right
that
it
would
be
more
of
a
service
type
of
use
where
it
would
be.
You
know,
bringing
in
bringing
in
deliveries.
You
know
years
ago
is
probably
bringing
in
coal
and
other
provisions
like
that,
but
now
you're
exactly
correct.
It's
you
know
it's
access
to
bring
your
trash
cans
out
or
you
know.
A
Rhymes
and-
and-
and
finally
I
I
know
this-
this
is
unrelated
to
your
your
task,
but
like
like
many
neighborhoods
we're
dealing
with
pest
control,
related
issues
throughout
boston
and
talking
to
residents
in
the
bay
village.
I
know
that's,
certainly
that's
certainly
a
concern
there
to
concern
bradley
in
every
neighborhood.
Are
there
any?
Are
there
any
related
issues
that
I
would
need
to
know
about
in
terms
of
preservation,
if
working
with
residents
and
working
with
owners
of
houses
on
on
pest
control
issues,
or
is
there
any
guidance
that
your
office
could
provide
us?
B
If
we
haven't
gotten
any
requests
in
bay,
village,
we've
had
quite
a
few
requests,
come
in
the
back
bay
district
and
we
routinely
work
with
property
owners
to
address
that
issue
very
often
in
in
back
bay.
We
it's
the
most
extensive
scope
of
restricted
areas.
All
exteriors,
either
you
can't
see
it
is
protected
and
tree
removal
is,
is
also
protected.
B
So
if
someone
wanted
to
propose
removing
a
tree
because
of
a
rat
infestation,
we
probably
would
ask
them
if
they've
explored
other
avenues,
you
know
to
try
to
maintain
trees,
but
you
know.
Typically,
we
see
a
lot
of
foundation,
work
and
paving
that
needs
to
be
upgraded
and
tightened
up
to
prevent
the
the
rodent
issues,
at
least
in
the
back
bay,
but
we
haven't
had
any.
I
can't
think
of
any
requests
in
bay
village,
specifically
related
to
that.
A
D
Yes,
thanks
so
much
counselor
flynn
and
yeah
excited
about
this,
and
one
comment:
counselor
flynn
related
to
your
question
is
so
because
we
also
my
parents
also
have
one
of
those
passageways
between
their
house
and
the
abutting
house,
and
I
think
one
of
the
historically
neat
things
about
this
street
is
that
the
street
was
actually
raised
at
some
point
and
so,
as
a
result,
all
of
those
back
gardens
are
sunken
compared
to
the
level
of
the
street.
D
It's
like
a
sort
of
half
a
story
down,
so
I
think
that's
a
piece
also
of
what's
kind
of
historically
significant
about
about
the
buildings
and
the
way
that
they're
laid
out.
Obviously
the
bay
village
in
the
name
is
a
clue
but
yeah.
I
guess
joe
just
wondering
I
mean
I
think
I
asked
you
this
at
the
last,
the
mount
vernon
street
one
I
mean
I'm
very
interested
in
so
for
folks,
walking
watching
at
home
right.
D
There
is
a
reference
to
the
historic
districts
protect
things
that
can
be
seen
from
a
public
way,
and
so,
if
something's
only
visible
from
a
private
way
or
if
something
is
interior,
then
it's
not
protected
and
obviously
there's
a
balance.
Here
right
I
mean
there's
a
reason:
the
kitchens
and
the
bathrooms
are
exempted.
D
People
don't
want
to
live
with
antique
appliances
forever,
but
it's
also
true,
there's
a
lot
of
architectural
beauty
in
boston's
interiors
and
that
the
trend
towards
gut
rehab
renovations
is
kind
of
taking
that
out
systematically
across
the
city,
and
I
think
you
know
obviously
and
there's
also
some
there's
some
economic
things
going
on
there
too,
where
you
have
a
place
like
bay
village
that
was
built
to
house
trades
people
and
yet
has
become
a
very
expensive
neighborhood,
and
so
people
don't
want
kind
of
trades
people
size
rooms.
D
Necessarily
they
want
sort
of
grand
sweeping
ceilings
that
you
know
and-
and
so
that's
another
thing,
that
kind
of
takes
out
the
interior
character
and
so-
and
I
do
think
that
you
know
these
private
preservation
restrictions
are
kind
of
the
way
forward
here.
D
I
don't
think
that
we
as
a
city
government,
are
going
to
reach
inside
necessarily,
but,
but
I
do,
I
am
pretty
interested
in
how
this
vehicle
can
become
more
than
something
that
we've
got
five
of
so
I
guess
joe,
I
know
you're
not
repping
historic
new
england
here,
but
if
you
could
speak
at
all
to
do
you
know
anything
about
how
this
owner
reached
out
to
historic,
new
england
and
got
connected
I'm
trying
to
think
about
ways.
D
Besides
holding
a
hearing
like
this,
that
we
can
kind
of
publicize
for
people
hey
if
you're
selling
your
house
and
you
think
it's
got
some
beautiful
interior
features
and
you'd
be
kind
of
gut
wrenched.
If
somebody
went
and
knocked
them
all
out,
there
is
a
way
to
protect
them
and
you
know
it
might.
It
might
affect
who
wants
to
buy
the
house?
But
if
that's
something
that
you
want
to
do,
you
can
do
it.
D
So
I
guess,
if
you,
if
you
have
any
of
the
backstory
joe
there
for
us
and
obviously
in
the
long
run,
what
I
would
hope
for
is
that
we
have
so
many
of
these
that
we
couldn't
have
an
independent
council
hearing
for
each
one,
that's
kind
of
my
goal
in
the
long
run,
but
yeah.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
comments
on
that.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
comments
and
and
your
question
I
I
know
you
know
historic,
new
england.
When
I
worked
there
their
program
was
very
reactive,
so
they
weren't
doing
they
were
doing
some
outreach,
but
most
of
the
requests
and
inquiries
that
would
come
in
would
be
from
people
familiar
with
the
organization
and
with
its
work
and
its
preservation
efforts.
B
So
I
do
I
do
remember
when
this
property
owner
first
reached
out
to
historic
new
england,
and
that
was
probably
more
than
10
years
ago,
so
you
know
a
lot
of
these
agreements.
You
know
take
years
to
to
come
to
fruition,
but
historic
new
england
has
been
unique
in
that
they
work
at
a
property
owner's
pace.
So
you
know
it's
really.
You
know
when
the
property
owner
is
ready
to
move
forward
with
these
restrictions
that
you
know
they're
ready
to
to
do
that.
You
know.
B
I
think
the
best
thing
we
can
do
is
to
publicize
these
as
much
as
we
can,
and
we
do
have
a
newsletter
that
we
do
put
out
quarterly
and
when
we
do
have
these
preservation
restriction
agreements
approved,
we
do
include
an
article
about
them.
So
I
think
anything
that
we
can
do
to
publicize
or
when
we
have
people
inquiring
about
preserving
the
interior.
B
You
know
that
can
be
done
in
some
cases
as
a
interior
landmark
a
boston
designated
landmark
for
an
interior,
but
you
know
those
are
very
unique
and
I
think
for
a
building
like
this.
If
someone
were
to
contact
us,
we
would
put
them.
You
know
we
direct
them
to
historic,
new
england
or
other
easement
holding
organizations.
D
Yeah,
no,
that's
great
yeah.
I
think
it
might
be
worth
us
sort
of
thinking
about
in
the
longer
term.
You
know
if
we
had
a
just
even
a
little
simple
kind
of
one-pager,
explainer
or
guide.
You
know,
so
you
want
to
preserve
the
inside
of
your
house
right
here
are
some
of
the
options
and
and
just
because
you
know,
I
think,
from
a
city
staff
time
perspective.
D
I
think
you
know
this
is
something
that
we
want
the
private
entity,
that's
restricting
it
to
do
the
lifting
on,
but
it
would
just
be
good
to
be
able
to
sort
of
more
systematically
point
people
in
their
direction.
For
this
kind
of
thing,
I
think
so
and,
mr
chairman,
those
are
those,
are
all
my
questions.
I'll
definitely
be
in
support,
and
I
do
think
our
colleague,
councilor
braden
may
have
joined
us
as
well.
A
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
book.
We
are
joined
by
our
colleague,
counselor
liz
braden
from
austin
and
brighton
council
braden.
Would
you
like
to
offer
an
opening
statement
and
or
q
a
as
well.
E
No,
I'm
I'm
very
happy
to
join.
I'm
I'm
always
excited
to
see
opportunities
to
preserve
historic
houses
and
buildings,
and
especially
the
interior.
I
think
it
gives
us
a
window
into
the
lives
of
folks
who
lived
in
a
in
a
prior
time,
and
you
know
it
seems
to
be
a
losing
battle
so
often,
and
I'm
always
excited
to
see
a
project
like
this
come
forward
that
we
can.
We
can
work
with
historic,
new
england
to
try
and
preserve.
E
So
thank
you
and
I'm
here
to
learn
how
how
this
process
is
is
working,
because
we
have
some
buildings
out
north
and
brighton
we'd
like
to
preserve
as
well,
so
always
trying
to
learn
more.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
braden
for
being
here,
and
I
get
I.
I
just
have
two
follow-up
questions,
maybe
relating
to
what
council
braden
said
in
what
council
block
stated,
but
it's
such
an
interesting
and
fascinating
subject
you
know,
would
would
love
to
have
you
set
up
a
meeting.
You
know
and
learn
more
about
what
you're
doing
in
educating
the
public.
But
can
you
talk
about
some
of
the
outreach
you
do
to
the
public,
so
they
are
aware
of
what
what
you
do.
A
What
your
role
is,
what
your
duties
are,
and
you
know
why
why
it's
important
to
have
to
have
such
a
agency
such
a
such
a
department.
B
Sure
I
can
say
you
know
again
in
addition
to
the
newsletter
we
do
have
active
facebook
accounts
and
twitter
accounts,
where
we
are,
whenever
we
can
trying
to
publicize
the
the
good
work
that
we
do
and
again
we
want
to
thank
the
city
council
for
its
ongoing
and
continued
support,
as
always
into
our
work.
So
we
that's
much
appreciated
roseanne.
Is
there
anything
more?
You
want
to
say
about
outreach.
C
I
think
we're
we're
doing
a
great
job
with
you
know
the
resources
we
have
and
we're
poised
on
the
the
brink
of
expanding
our
staff,
so
we'll
have
more
time
to
be
proactive
about
it,
which
I'm
really
looking
forward
to.
We
have
a
great
quarterly
newsletter
and
some
social
media
as
joe
mentioned.
That's
that
people
definitely
love
to
interact
with
it's
hard
to
take
the
show
on
the
road
so
to
speak
and
have
a
you
know:
neighborhood,
chats
or
coffee
hours.
C
That
is
is
a
goal
at
some
point
when
it's
when
it's
possible
but
yeah.
This
is
we
we
take
every
hearing
such
as
this
to
to
help
answer
folks,
questions
and
and
help
get
the
word
out
about
what
we
do.
A
Thank
you
roseanne
for
that
answer,
and
I
guess
my
final
question
before
we
wrap
up
one
of
the
issues.
I
focus
focus
on
a
lot
because
it
impacts
my
district.
It
impacts
council
box
district
in
consular
lydia,
edwards
district
as
well
in
east
boston,
groundwater
related
issues
working
with
the
groundwater
commission
and
with
the
with
the
you
know.
What,
in
what
impact
would
preservation
have,
as
it
relates
to
groundwater
related
issues,
joseph
or
roseanne.
B
Yeah
there
really
wouldn't
be
much.
You
know
we
routinely
approve
projects
that
are
required
for
for
groundwater
recharge,
and
you
know
we
have
worked
in
the
past
with
the
groundwater
trust,
but
you
know
anything.
You
know
that
would
be
usually
a
zoning
issue
and
there's
really
nothing
that
you
know
we
would
do
that
would
deny
them.
You
know
doing
appropriate
work
for
groundwater,
recharge.
A
Okay,
well,
having,
I
don't
believe
any
other
colleagues
are
on.
I
don't
think
council,
bark
or
council
braden
have
any
follow-up
questions.
I'm
just
checking
to
see
if
any
other
colleagues
are
on.
A
I
don't
believe
so
so
at
this
time
I
would
like
to
thank
joseph.
I
would
like
to
thank
roseanne.
I
would
like
to
thank
the
city
council,
central
staff,
for
coordinating
this
meeting
and
let
me
ask
council
bloc:
would
you
like
to
give
a
closing
statement.
D
Well,
I
would
just
thank
the
department
for
their
time.
I
do
see
councillor
flynn,
somebody
with
their
hand
up
in
the
attendees
section.
A
Oh
yeah,
that's
right!
I
forgot
about
that.
Okay,
let
me
let
me
take
public
testimony
at
this
time.
If
you
would
like
to
testify,
could
you
please
raise
your
hand
and
we
will
call
on
you
again
apologize
for
not
going
to
the
public?
I
should
have
done
that
but
kerry.
Can
you
ask
the
person
that
has
their
hand
raised
if
they'd
like
to
testify.
A
Yes,
we
can
hear
you
thank
you
for
joining
us.
F
Oh
perfect,
thank
you
counselors.
My
name
is
carissa
damore,
I'm
actually
here
on
behalf
of
historic
new
england,
so
we
we
will
be
the
ones
to
hold
this
restriction,
and
I
really
appreciate
your
attention
to
it
today.
Joe
thank
you
for
the
wonderful
summary
of
this
project.
It's
a
long
time
in
the
making
to
joe's
point.
This
began
actually
15
or
20
years
ago,
in
conversations
with
the
current
owner's
parents
that
then
transferred
to
him
when
the
property
transferred
to
him.
F
So
I
know
he
will
be
very
glad
to
see
to
see
the
project
move
forward
and
I
think
he
may
be
with
us
today,
but
historic
new
england
holds
116
preservation,
restrictions
on
properties
across
new
england,
and
we
take
that
responsibility
very
seriously,
but
it
is
a
small
program.
It's
a
slow,
growing
program
to
your
question.
We
only
add
maybe
a
couple
of
properties
every
year,
and
part
of
that
is
because
of
the
extraordinary
generosity
that
it
takes
to
put
a
restriction
like
this
on
a
property.
F
So
one
of
the
one
of
the
ways,
perhaps
that
boston
might
consider
if
you'd
like
to
see
expanded
activity
around
preservation,
restrictions
in
the
future
would
be
to
consider
alternative
mechanisms
for
funding
those
restrictions.
We
are
certainly
happy
to
hold
more
of
them
to
protect
the
very
endangered
interiors
that
are
so
significant
around
boston,
but
it
is
a
huge
ask
of
owners
to
endow
those
agreements
single-handedly
and
there
are
other
tools
that
that
we
might
be
able
to
explore.
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
today.
F
For
you
all
to
consider
in
the
future,
and
thank
you
again
for
for
your
time
today
and
considering
this
agreement,
it's
it's
really
a
great
property
and
represents
something
that
that
we
don't
get
to
protect
very
often,
which
is
the
more
working
class
side
of
of
the
history.
So
thank
you.
A
G
That's
correct:
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
hear
you
maurice.
My
name
is
maurice
zod,
I'm
actually
the
owner
of
41
melrose
street.
Yes,
I
did
appreciate
a
counselor
flynn.
Your
comments
on
the
on
the
water
level.
That
is
a
very
big
concern
to
me,
because
the
big
developments
around
it
they're
severely
affecting
the
what
is
it
the
polls
that
are
in
the
property?
I'm
sure
you
know
beacon
hill.
Many
houses
have
had
many
problems
with
that.
G
So
I
would
really
appreciate
you
guys
to
do
some
effects
on
that,
because
it
is
the
piles
will
rot
soon,
because
the
water
level
is
going
down
many
years
ago.
The
process
of
buying
a
house
on
fayette
street
and
one
of
the
reasons
I
backed
out
of
it
was
because
it
had
rotting
poles
in
it
and
the
person
yeah.
You
know
they
they
bought
it
cheaply,
reselled
it
and
recently.
G
I
think
it
even
sold
for
two
million
dollars,
but
that
house
is
sure
will
collapse
in
a
few
years,
so
it
is
a
big
problem
to
bay
village,
I'm
sure
as
well
other
areas,
and
the
second
thing
is
about
publicity.
G
I
I
would
appreciate
if
this
matter
be
private,
it
may
not
be
published
anywhere
because
it
is
a
private
matter
between
me
and
historic
new
england.
I
do
not
want
to
be
published
any
newsletters
or
facebook
or
any
social
media.
I
greatly
appreciate
that.
A
Thank
and
thank
you
maurice
and
your
comments
about
groundwater
were
very
helpful
and
one
of
the
things
I
would
like
to
do
sometime,
maybe
maybe
after
the
new
year
I've
held
hearings
already
with
the
groundwater
commission
just
on
exactly
what
they
do,
what
their
duties
are,
but
I
know
the
public.
It's
a
great
opportunity
to
educate
the
public,
so
we'll
continue
to
engage
the
groundwater
commission
christian
over
there
does
it
does
a
wonderful
job.
So
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
we'll
stay
we'll
stay
in
contact
maurice
and
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me.
A
If
you
have
any
have
any
issues,
I
just
I'm
just
looking
around
any
other
raised
hands
that
want
to
testify.
A
Again
want
to
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
panelists
for
being
here
to
maurice
to
carissa
for
testifying
and
like
counselor
bark
mentioned,
I'm
going
to
coordinate
with
councilwoo
and
present
this
before
our
body
sometime
very
soon,
so
again
want
to
say
thank
you
to
roseanne,
say
thank
you
to
joseph
to
my
to
my
colleagues
and
to
central
staff.
This
meeting
is
now
adjourned.
Thank
you.