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Docket #1010 - Message and order authorizing the City of Boston to apply for, and to accept and expend, the Federal Fiscal Year 2021 Continuum of Care grant funds from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development in the amount not to exceed Forty Five Million Dollars ($45,000,000.00) These funds will be used to support programs that provide services and housing to persons experiencing homelessness
A
B
I'm
calling
this
hearing
to
order
good
morning.
My
name
is
kenzie
bach
and
I'm
the
vice
chair
of
the
committee
on
housing
and
community
development,
I'm
standing
in
for
counselor
edwards
today,
here
at
a
conflict,
arise
in
accordance
with
chapter
20
of
the
acts
of
2021
modifying
certain
requirements,
the
open
meeting
law
and
relieving
public
bodies
of
certain
requirements,
including
the
requirement
that
public
bodies
conduct
its
meetings
in
a
public
place
that
is
open
and
physically
accessible
to
the
public.
The
city
council
will
be
conducting
this
hearing.
B
Virtually
this
enables
the
city
council
to
carry
out
its
responsibilities
while
adhering
to
public
health
recommendations
and
ensuring
public
access
to
its
deliberations
through
adequate
alternative
needs.
The
public
may
watch
this
meeting
via
live
stream
at
www.bossnuka
city
council
dash
tv
or
via
broadcast
on
xfinity
8,
rcn,
82
and
45os
964..
B
This
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
live
streamed
on
boston.gov
city
council
dash
tv
and
again
those
channels,
xfinity,
rcn82
and
files964
and
it'll
also
be
re-broadcast
at
a
later
date
on
those
channels.
If
you're
watching
and
you'd
like
to
testify
on
this
matter,
please
email,
juan.locas
boston.gov
for
the
zoom
link,
that's
juan
j-u-a-n.lopez.
B
Boston.Gov
to
get
the
zoom
link
and
come
join
us
here.
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket
1010
daca
1010
is
a
message
in
order
authorizing
the
city
of
boston,
to
apply
for
and
to
accept
and
expend
the
federal
fiscal
year.
2021
continuum
of
care
grant
fund
funds
from
the
u.s
department
of
housing
and
urban
development
in
the
amount
not
to
exceed
45
million
dollars.
B
B
In
addition
to
myself,
I
am
joined
here
today
by
councillor
ed
flynn,
the
district
2
city,
councilor
and
counselor
julia
mejia
at
large,
so
welcome
to
both
of
those
colleagues,
and
we
will
be
hearing
today
from
lala
bernstein,
the
deputy
director
for
the
supportive
housing
division
of
our
department
of
neighborhood
development
about
the
use
of
these
funds.
So
before
we
go
to
lila
I'll
just
give
councillor
flynn
and
councillor
mojita
a
brief
moment
to
say
a
word
of
welcome
councillor
flynn.
C
D
Yes,
good
morning
well,
good
afternoon,
at
this
point:
oh
jesus,
yes,
and
so
thank
you
to
the
chair
for
holding
this
hearing.
This
topic
is
near
and
dear
to
me,
you
know
as
a
child.
Everybody
knows
that
I
bounce
from
home
to
home,
and
it
wasn't
until
the
fifth
grade
that
I
actually
had
my
own
room.
So
I
know
what
it's
like
to
feel
housing
and
security,
and
it's
great
that
we're
applying
for
the
continuing
care
grant
and
I
hope
that
our
application
is
approved.
D
B
Perfect,
thank
you
so
much
councillor
mejia,
yes,
and
I
would
just
agree
that
I
mean
this
is
a
the
issue
of
housing
and
services
for
unhoused
folks
is
top
of
mind
in
the
city.
Right
now
it
obviously
became
an
even
more
acute
focus
in
covid
and
it
is
an
area
where
you
know
the
the
the
top
line
number
here
is
very
encouraging,
but
sort
of
45
million
dollars.
B
I
think
one
of
the
things
we'd
love
to
understand
in
the
committee
is
how
much
of
this
is
for
the
continuation
of
services
that
we
already
do,
because
I
know,
there's
really
substantial
stuff,
that
the
city
has
started
doing
in
recent
years.
That
deputy
director
bernstein
really
is
our
point
percent
on
and
then
to
find
out
what,
if
anything,
kind
of
new
and
additional
we're
able
to
do
with
these
funds
would
be
great.
E
E
Over
the
over
the
last
several
years,
you
should
have
received
a
fact
sheet
about
the
grant
program
and
it's
a
little
bit
convoluted,
so
I'll,
give
a
summary
and
then
happy
to
take
questions
at
the
end,
and
I
will
also
try
to
weave
in
a
response
to
the
question
that's
already
been
posed
about
how
much
of
this
is
new
funding
versus
funding?
That's
continuing
work,
that's
already
happening,
so
the
consumer
care
program
is
a
grant
and
I
might
refer
to
it
as
coc,
but
that's
the
continuing
care
program.
E
It's
a
grant
program
awarded
by
the
u.s
department
of
housing
and
urban
development
to
provide
housing
and
supportive
services
for
homeless
individuals
and
families.
Hud
awards
this
funding
through
an
annual
competition.
This
year's
competition
closes
on
november
16th
of
2021.,
so
the
boston
continuum
of
care.
E
Of
neighborhood
development,
supportive
housing
division,
which
is
the
division
that
I
am
coming
to
you
from,
and
we
get
direction
from
the
continual
care,
leadership
board
and
consumer
advisory
groups,
so
both
on
our
leadership
board
and
then
from
two
specific
advisory
groups.
We
have
a
host
of
people
with
lived
experience.
One
one
of
our
advisory
groups
is
the
youth
action
board.
E
The
current
portfolio
includes
42
grants
and
serves
currently
over
2
000
households
at
a
given
point
in
time,
and
each
grant
term
is
one
year.
So
d
d
will
apply
to
renew
existing
grants
and
submit
applications
for
new
grants
and
I'll
get
into
details
of
it
lower
down.
So
the
funding
is
used
to
assist
individuals
and
families
that
meet
the
hud
definition
of
homelessness.
E
Grants
are
targeted
to
people
who
are
you
know,
sleeping
in
shelters
or
sleeping
outside
or
staying
in
a
place
not
meant
for
human
habitation.
These
dollars,
don't
aren't
used
for
preventing
eviction,
or
you
know
serving
people
who
might
be
doubled
up
or
are
bouncing
bouncing
around
or
what
some
people
call
couchsurfing.
These
dollars
are
specific
to
people
who
are
who
are
experiencing
literal
homelessness.
Already,
though,
there
are
certain.
A
E
Boston
is
eligible
for
approximately
38
million
in
renewal
funding,
so
that's
the
portion
of
the
grant
that
we
already
have
programs
allocated
and
we're
renewing
those
programs
so
that
they
can
continue.
This
includes
25
permanent
supportive
housing
projects,
so
that's
long-term
housing
vouchers
along
with
supportive
services.
E
In
addition,
boston
is
eligible
to
apply
for
1.9
million
dollars
in
new
projects
for
housing
and
services
for
homeless
households
and
another
on
top
of
that
2.2
million
dollars
to
create
projects
or
expand
projects
for
housing
and
services
for
households
made
homeless
due
to
domestic
violence.
So
those
are
the
new
dollars:
1.9
million
for
housing
and
services
for
people
experiencing
homelessness
and
2.2
million
dollars
for
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
due
to
domestic
violence
and
so
to
to
determine
how
those
dollars
will
be
used.
E
The
city
issued
an
rfp
that
was
issued
through
the
department
of
neighborhood
development
and
then
we
are
reviewing
those
applications
for
inclusion.
In
the
application
that
will
be
submitted
to
the
federal
government
submitted
to
hud
in
the
middle
of
november,
so
that's
the
summary
and
I'm
happy
to
take
questions
now.
B
C
E
Yes,
so
in
the
38
million
dollars
that
are
being
renewed,
there
are
programs
that
specifically
target
veterans
experiencing
homelessness.
So
there
are
some
programs
that
are,
they
complement,
other
funding
that
focuses
on
veterans.
But
there
are
some
programs
that
are
filling
gaps
in
the
system
that
you
know
some
of
the
funding
that
comes
through
the
va
or
that
comes
directly
to
the
housing
authority,
specifically
to
house
veterans.
If
some
of
those
funding
sources
have
restrictions-
and
so
we
have
additional
programming
in
here
for
veterans
who
wouldn't
be
eligible
for
those
other
programs.
C
Okay,
now
that
that's
helpful,
I
appreciate
the
work
your
office
has
been
doing
on
supporting
veterans
that
are
homeless.
So
I
know
we
have
a
lot
more
work
to
do.
We
made
a
lot
of
progress,
significant
progress,
I
should
say,
but
certainly
there's
more
work
to
do
but
again
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
your
team
to
neighborhood
development
and
working
closely
with
the
city
council
in
may's
office,
obviously,
but
the
residents
of
the
city
so
again
just
want
to
say.
Thank
you,
council
block.
I
I
don't
have
any
further
questions
or
comments.
D
Thank
you
for
giving
us
a
very
thorough,
deep
dive
in
terms
of
the
how
and
what
I
I
do
have
a
quick
question.
It's
a
follow-up
in
regards
to
because
one
of
my
questions
was
specifically
around
folks
who
are
couch
surfing.
You
know,
folks,
who
who
are
chronically
homeless
right,
even
though
they
technically
always
find
a
space
to
squat,
they're,
still
homeless
and
so
just
kind
of
just
curious
about.
D
E
I
think
the
way
that
it's
streamed
in
the
in
the
rules
is
that
in
theory
this
this
funding
could
be.
You
know
once
you
end
homelessness
and
kind
of
meet
certain
benchmarks
on
making
homelessness,
rare
brief
and
non-repeating
for
people
who
are
already
homeless.
You
can
start
to
pivot
and
use
some
of
these
dollars
for
what
hud
considers
prevention,
but
until
that's
the
case,
these
dollars
need
to
be
targeted
on
people
who
are
already
kind
of
in
a
shelter
or
sleeping
on
the
street,
okay,
so
yeah.
So
that's
the
distinction.
A
A
E
E
D
You
for
that,
so
I
just
have
two
more
questions
and
then
I
before
counselor
bob
gives
me
the
gabble
there
are
there.
You
know
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
being
unhoused
as
a
result
of
domestic
violence,
because
their
families
cannot
accept
the
lgbtq
plus
status
and
I'm
just
curious.
How
are
we
working
specifically
with
women
and
members
of
the
lgbtq
community,
and
particularly
the
trans
community,
around
some
of
these
housing
needs.
E
Assistance
providers,
helping
with
that's
being
chaired
by
the
executive
director
street
inn
and
jerry
thomas
at
boston,
public
health
commission,
to
look
at
our
look
at
our
shelter
system
and
the
issue
of
how
people
who
are
trans
or
lgbtq
are
kind
of
look
at
the
environment
for
people
who
are
have
those
identities
have
been
one
of
the
topics.
That's
that's
on
the
table
for
that
shelter,
transformation!
Envisioning.
There
is
a
grant
that
we
have
right
now
through
the
recovery
recovery
dollars
that
could
be
used
to
transform
or
to
alter
or
renovate.
E
Or
even
purchase
shelter
spaces,
and
so
that's
the
context
in
which
we're
we're
asking
that
question.
You
know,
I
think,
in
terms
of
how
we're
responding
to
people
fleeing
domestic
violence.
That's
you
know.
That's
part
of
what
these
new
dollars
can
be
spent
on
is
housing
responses
to
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
due
to
domestic
violence,
and
we
did
receive
applications
that
go
that
total
more
than
2.2
million
dollars.
For
that,
so
we
will
have
an
application
that
goes
into
hud
for.
E
Responses
to
people
who
are
homeless
due
to
domestic
violence,
okay
and
then
your
question
also
was
about
women
experiencing
homelessness
and
there
is
a
right
now.
There's
a
subcommittee,
that's
looking
specifically
at
that
question
and
it's
got
participation
from
the
boston,
public
health
commission
and
the
major
shelter
providers
of
rosie's
place
and
women's
lunch
place
and
the
department
of
mental
health
looking
at
and
healthcare
homes
and
many
others.
E
D
Sure
I'm
answering
your
question
so
yeah,
no,
it's,
okay!
It's
okay!
I
just
I
I
keep.
I
keep
thinking
about
the
public
hearings
that
we
do
during
the
budget
season
and
I
keep
thinking
like.
Oh
my
god,
I
got
two
more
questions
that
I
want
to
get
in
before
I
get
muted,
and
so
I
just
I'm
like
I
got
it
and
I
it's
so
I
just
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
these
two
extra
points.
Is
that
okay,
council
block?
Do
I
have
time.
D
Count
them
here
take
the
time
that
you
need.
Okay,
okay,
thank
you,
so
I
just
wanted
to
uplift
two
more
things.
You
know
the
trans
gender
emergency
fund
has
been
working
for
ages
to
get
a
physical
location,
and
I
know
that
counselor
campbell
and
our
office
has
been
involved
in
that
process
and
I'm
wondering
if
there's
any
opportunity
to
partner
with
them
by
utilizing
some
of
this
funding
to
help
support
that
effort.
D
And
then
the
last
thing
is
is
that
you
know
we
talk
a
lot
about
youth
who
are
homeless,
and
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
great
programs
out
there
that
exist.
There
are
two
segments
of
the
population
that
I'm
very
concerned
about
and
I'm
just
curious
about
what,
if
any
opportunity
exists
to
support
it's
young
people
who
are
transitioning
out
of
foster
care,
there's
really
no
safety
net
for
them
once
they
reach.
You
know
once
they
age
out
and
then
young
people
who
are
transitioning
out
of
dys.
D
E
E
Buckets
of
funding
that
we
have
available
that
could
be
so.
I
think
we
should
connect
about
the
other
available
funding
to
see
if
there's
a
match
there
for
the
transgender
emergency
fund
space
question,
and
that
is
something
I've
been
I've
heard
about
for
for
several
months
now.
So
I
do
think
we
should
connect
on
that.
You
know
this
funding
is
prescribed
to
be
spent
on
housing
interventions,
so
in
terms
of
young
people
who
are
transitioning
out
of
foster
care
and
young
people
who
are
transitioning
out
of
dys.
E
E
D
So
can
you
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
because
this
is
where
I
always
like
to
say
that
I
have
a
growth
mindset,
so
I'm
always
learning
and
so,
and
people
who
follow
us
are
also
learning
alongside
us.
But
if,
when
you
talk
about
having
these
dollars
set
aside
to
support,
can
you
just
go
into
some
level
of
specificity?
D
If
you
have
any
like
how
many
dollars,
how
many
young
people
and
how
and
how
which
organizations
are
you
working
with
when
it
comes
to
supporting
the
students
who
are
transitioning
out
of
foster
care
and
dys,
because
I
think
oftentimes,
these
kids
get
lost
in
the
sauce
and
there's
really
very
little
communication
around
the
initiatives
that
exist
and
I'm
sure
that
they
exist.
It's
just
having
the
information
so
that
we
as
an
office
can
help
disseminate
might
be
helpful.
D
So
even
if
you
don't
have
it
now
at
some
point,
if
you
can
get
to
our
office
just
like,
who
are
the
organizations
that
you're
working
with?
How
can
we
plug
in
young
people,
who
we
know,
are
vulnerable
and
and
and
are
transitioning
out
into
the
streets
because
they
don't
have
anywhere
else
to
go,
and
how
do
we
set
them
up
for
success?
Because,
if
we're
really
serious
about
addressing
a
lot
of
the
issues,
and
especially
around
poverty
and
violence,
and
all
these
things
can
just
continue?
It's
just
a
spiral
right.
D
E
F
E
D
That
would
be.
That
would
be
great
and
then
I'll
say
one
last
thing
I
know
counselor
block,
I'm
hijacking
your
entire
hearing
here,
but
you
know
we.
There
have
been
several
constituents
that
we
have
literally
have
had
to
cover
their
hotel
lodging
because
they
were
either
waiting
for
a
rental
vulture
or
they
were
waiting
for
inspection
or
whatever
the
case
is
they.
D
But
oftentimes
the
funds
are
not
there.
So
we've
had
to
be
creative
and
find
funds
to
help
support.
So
I'm
just
curious
if
there's
a
way
to
set
aside
some
funds
for
some
emergency
situations,
specifically
for
some
elders
and
then
also
people
who
have
experienced
or
have
witnessed,
homicide
and
and
folks
who
have
experienced
trauma.
D
That's
another,
that's
another
area
where
they
may
not
be
they
they're.
They
are
they
they're
unhoused
or
they
can't
be
in
in
the
environment
anymore.
I
mean
there's,
I'm
probably
that's.
Probably
something
else
I'll
just
forget
that
one.
I
don't
know
if
it
falls
within
the
context
of
this
work,
but
that's
just
another
scenario
that
I've
encountered.
E
D
Well,
thank
you,
and
I
so
appreciate
counselor
block
for
allowing
me
to
overextend
my
time,
and
I
look
for
your
for
your
ability
to
just
keep
going
back
and
forth
with
me.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work
and
thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
learn,
and
I
look
forward
to
following
up
with
you
and
your
team,
to
figure
out
some
of
the
areas
that
we
can
potentially
help
support
as
well.
On
our
end,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
for
your.
B
Yeah
thanks
so
much
council
over
here
for
all
the
all
the
specific
questions
there.
They
were
all
great
and
all
the
work
your
office
does
on
this
too
counselor
braden.
If
I
just
forwarded
you
to
make
sure
that
you
have
the
sort
of
handout
from
while
in
our
office,
I
can
go
to
you
now
or
I
can
ask
some
questions
of
my
own
and
then
come
to
you
in
a
minute.
F
B
A
B
B
Are
we
have
we
framed
our
rfps
in
a
way
where
we're
sort
of
like
looking
to
meet
unmet
needs
in
terms
of
like
new
program
types
or
is
it
more
about
like
we
need
more
people
or
like
more
spots?
For
this
thing,
we're
already
doing?
Who
can
provide
that,
like
I'm
just
trying
to
understand?
Is
it
how
we're
how
we
are
thinking
strategically
about
the
new
funds.
E
Yeah,
so
we've
had
an
oversight
committee
that
that
has
helped
kind
of
determine
how
proposals
will
be
ranked
and
it
you
know
they
are
looking
at.
What
are
the
gaps
within
the
constraints
of
the
grant?
You
know
what
are
the,
what
are
the
most
passing
gaps
in
the
system,
and
so
you
know
permanent
supportive
housing,
of
course,
is
like
a
priority,
because
we
all
know
there's
not
enough.
E
Permanent
support
of
housing,
certainly
serving
people
experiencing
domestic
violence
is
a
priority
and
there's
dollar
set
aside
for
that
population,
and
so
you
know
the
proposals
are
primarily
housing
responses
to.
So
it's
either
rapid,
rehousing
or
permanent,
supportive
housing.
And
you
know
those
are
major
gaps,
major
gaps.
E
B
E
B
Yeah,
no
that's
helpful,
and
I
mean
certainly
my
analysis
right
now
would
be
that
yeah
we
don't
have.
I
mean
it's
not
anything
new
right.
We
don't
have
any
anything
close
to
the
supportive
service
like
capacity
that
we
need
for
housing
and-
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
hearing
from
housing
providers
lately
is
very
much
like
the
the
piece
of
the
housing
first
instinct.
B
That
is
correct
is
that
people
don't
solve
any
of
the
other
challenges
in
their
life
when
they
don't
have
housing
so
like
they
do
need
housing
and
they
need
it
in
a
low
barrier
way
that
doesn't
involve
jumping
through
a
whole
bunch
of
hoops
and
solving
a
lot
of
other
things
and
finding
a
job
and
kicking
your
addiction
and
doing
outright
everything
before
you
ever
get
housed.
But
then
one
of
the
things
I've
been
hearing
from
folks
is
very
much
the
kind
of
like
so
in
that
sense,
housing
first,
but
also
not
housing.
B
Only
because
for
a
lot
of
folks
when
you
get
them
into
low
barrier
low
threshold
housing.
If
you
don't,
then
also
have
the
support
of
services
there.
You
know
people
will
lose
that
housing
I
and
they
won't
be
able
to
kind
of
succeed
in
the
way
that
we
hope.
So
I
guess
that's,
certainly
what
I've
been
hearing
from
everyone.
B
I
would
say-
and
I
just
wonder
to
that
end
like
how
much,
how
often
are
we,
how
much
of
this
resource
are
we
able
to
use
for
supportive
services
that
kind
of
can
attach
to
existing
like
housing
opportunities
and,
and
maybe
if
you
could
speak
a
little
bit
too.
Obviously,
mass
and
cass
is
on
everybody's
mind
right
now,
and
I
think
that
that's
one
of
the
places
where
you
know
we
struggle
with
folks
who
are
you
know
they
would
accept
low
barrier
housing
but
they're
not
interested
in
sort
of
a
nightly
shelter.
E
E
E
A
tighter
system,
where
it's
really
clear
where
the
funding
source
is
going
to
come
from
services
and
for
massachusetts,
it's
pretty
piecemeal
and
that
leaves
gaps
for
people.
So
you
know
this
may
some
of
this
funding
may
serve
some
of
that
gap,
but
I
you
know
we
are
directed
to
kind
of
create
new
housing
as
much
as
possible
with
these
dollars
as
well.
So.
E
Is
from
the
proposals
I've
seen
most
often
there's,
there
is
some
request
for
housing
dollars
along
with
some
robust
or
supportive
services,
so
this
isn't
gonna,
be.
I
don't
think
this.
This
new
money
is
gonna,
be
used
to
like
go
plug
service
gaps
in
existing
housing,
but
it
might
create
housing
paired
with
services.
That
would
give
the
right
package
to
people
who
are
going
to
be
housed
with
those
dollars.
F
F
You
know,
I
think,
but
I
think
this
is
a
critical
discussion
that
we
have,
and
we
should
probably
continue
it
further
about
further
beyond
this.
This
accept
and
expand
order.
Then
the
idea
that
you
know
our
our
residents
need
need
some
help
with
resident
services
coordination
so
that
they
can
actually
get
access
and
get
pointed
in
the
right
direction
to
other
resources
that
are
available
that
they're,
not
necessarily
accessing.
F
I
want
to
amplify
countrymehia's
concern
about
young
people,
leaving
foster
care
and
coming
you
know
it
really
does
seem
to
be
you
hit
a
certain
age
and
you're
out
the
door
and
you're
on
your
own
and
family
children.
Young
people
who
grow
up
and
stable
families
don't
get
thrown
out
the
door
to
18
until
to
fend
for
themselves.
So
I
think
we
have.
F
We
have
some
work
to
do
and
the
other
thing
I'm
seeing
is
elders
on
fixed
income
are
being
priced
out
of
our
out
of
housing
in
in
boston,
and
I
think
back
to
that
concern
about
increased
homelessness
within
without
with
our
elderly
population
is
very
important
as
well.
So
I
really
want
to
thank
you.
This
is
an
incredible
opportunity,
but
I'd
love
to
continue
this
conversation
going
on
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
jump
in
counselor
bach.
I
have
to
go
to
another
meeting.
F
D
Oh
no,
I
was
just
giving
the
thumbs
up
to
counselor
breeden
in
regards
to
our
elders,
my
god.
Yes,
I
I.
I
underscored
the
importance
of
being
able
to
support,
obviously,
because
I'm
the
comment
that
I
made
earlier
about
some
of
our
elders
who
we've
had
to
support,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
elders
who
are
on
fixed
incomes
literally
who
are
struggling
right
now
to
be
able
to
stay
in
their
homes
and
so
with
the
with
the
rents
increasing
the
way
they
do.
Sometimes.
D
B
Oh
lila,
can
you
can
you
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
the
tenant,
the
rental
assistance
component
of
this?
How
like?
How
is
that
administered
like?
Does
that
take
the
form
of
federal
vouchers,
or
does
it
like?
What's
the
I
couldn't
quite
tell
from
the
spreadsheet
how
the
rental
assistance
is
administered.
E
E
And
they
many
of
them
not
all
of
them.
Many
of
them
are
administered
through
metro
housing,
boston
and
they
they
do
look
a
lot
like
other
federal
vouchers.
Although
there
are
fewer
rules
around
their
fewer
barriers
to
who
can
be
served
with
doctors,
then
some
of
the
dollars
are,
you
know,
are
somewhat
different,
that
they
they
kind
of
go
to
a
provider.
E
E
Have
a
with
a
tenant,
so
that's
a
little
bit
different
from
most
federal
vouchers
and
then
the
rapid
re-housing
dollars
are
not
like
vouchers,
really,
they
are
short
or
medium-term
rental
assistance
that
are
paid
as
a
portion
of
some.
You
know.
A
tenant
or
a
family
has
a
lease
in
a
private
market
apartment
part
of
their
rent
is
paid
for
through
the
rapid
housing
program
and
they
pay
a
portion,
but
that
may
adjust
over
time
and
and
it's
time
limited.
So
it's
not
a
voucher.
E
F
B
This
came
up
in
a
prior
hearing
we
had
on
this,
but
because
they're
metro,
housing
boston.
Does
that
mean
that
they're
operating
under
the
fair
market
rent
payment
standards
that
dhcd
has
instead
of
the
small
area,
fair
market,
rent
payment
standards
that
the
boston
housing
authority
has
that's
correct?.
E
E
B
Yeah,
I
guess
I
guess
my
question
would
be
if
you
guys
had
something
this
would
be
sort
of
a
follow-up
thing,
but
just
understanding
does
that.
Allow
you
to
get
to
the
same
place
as
the
safmr's
do
just
because
I
know
a
thing
that
came
up
he's
off
now,
but
when
the
last
time
we
were
discussing
this
topic
with
counselor
flynn
was
the
fact
that
you
know
that
people
are
not
really
able
to
use
these
coc
vouchers
in
south
boston.
B
I
would
guess
because
of
brent's-
and
I
think
that's
probably
true
of
most
of
my
district
and
and
you
know
substantial
other
areas
of
the
city
and
it
just
feels
like
I
mean
I've
been
on
a
hobby
horse
to
try
to
get
dhcd
to
reconsider
that
decision
for
a
while,
and
it's
not
metro,
housing,
boston's
fault,
it's
a
state
policy
decision,
but
it
would
just
be.
It
would
be
helpful
to
know
whether
that's
a
barrier
to
accessing
the
housing
stock.
For
these
folks.
E
E
B
E
E
In
rapid
rehousing
and
need
something
deeper
that
they
can
be
assessed
for
these
permanent
supportive
housing
vacancies
as
they
come
up,
and
so
they
could
transfer
from
rapid
to
psh.
So
rapid,
it's
more
plentiful,
because
it's
you
know
each
person
there's
fewer
dollars
for
each
participant,
and
so
that
is,
is
one
way
that
we
can
kind
of
more
quickly
deploy
housing
resources
for
for
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
and
sleeping
out
on
the
street
right
now.
E
So
that's
one
piece:
some
of
that
funding
is
most
of
that
funding
is
coming
from
another
funding
source,
not
not
from
this
particular
grant.
I
mean
this
grant.
Is
it's
not
specific
to
a
particular
neighborhood?
It
is
for
anybody
experiencing
homelessness
in
the
city
of
austin,
and
so
that
includes
people
are
sleeping
outside
and
people
who
are
in
shelters
and-
and
then
we
have.
You
know
through
that
board
that
I
talked
about.
E
E
B
Great,
no,
that's
that's
really
helpful
and
yeah.
I
think
anything
we
can
do
even
in
those
spaces
that
we're
not
usually
extending
ourselves
like
I
mean
it
just
it
feels
it
feels
so
critical.
I
think
it's
so
hard
right
now
to
when
somebody
is
open
for
help
right
I
mean
we
talk
about.
You
know
when
some
like
the
moment
where
somebody's
open
is
when
you
want
to
get
them
into,
obviously
like
drug
rehab
programs
and
stuff,
but
in
many
ways
the
same
thing
goes,
for
you
know,
access
to
permanent
housing.
A
B
People,
and
with
with
that
appropriate
supportive
service,
so
yeah
just.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you're
doing
on
all
these
fronts.
Lyla-
and
I
know
it's
like
it's
kind
of
an
overwhelming
challenge,
and
we
appreciate
just
everything,
just
the
fact
that
you
guys
get
up
in
the
department
every
day
and
do
it
instead
of
letting
it
overwhelm.
You
is
really
important
to
all
of
us
here
on
the
council.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
is
there
anything
related
to.
B
E
E
Yes,
it's
called
america,
it's
it's
brand
new.
It
was
just
launched
last
month
and
their
yeah,
the
administration
asked
community
or
invited
communities
in
boston.
Was
one
of
the
communities
invited
to
set
goals
around
in
in
two
places,
one
to
set
a
rehousing
goal,
how
many
people
who
are
exiting
literal
homelessness
and
and
are
re-housed
between
mid-september
and
the
end
of
2022,
and
the
second
goal
was
a
housing
creation
goal
of
how
many
units
of
housing
would
be
created
for
people
experiencing
or
households
experiencing
homelessness.
E
We'll
be
kind
of
rallying
behind
reaching
those
goals,
and,
and
ideally
you
know,
we'll
learn
from
other
communities
who
are
also
part
of
the
effort
about
what
kinds
of
things
they're
doing
to
you
know,
with
new
strategies
or
or
different
ways
to
do
as
much
as
we
can
with.
There
is
a
lot
of
federal
funding.
E
B
B
E
E
E
B
Oh
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
that
word
in
favor
of
that
whole
that
whole
ecosystem
that
is
just
trying
to
uphold
and
push
forward
on
housing
justice,
it's
so
important
and
we're
not
gonna.
You
know,
I
think
there
is
some.
There
are
some
good
political
shifts
in
favor
of
housing
justice,
including
at
the
federal
level,
but
also
here
at
home.
B
D
Yeah
yeah,
so
thank
you
so
much
for
hosting
this
hearing.
Obviously
we
have
to
do
it
anyway,
so
it
wasn't
like
you
just
did
it
because
you
wanted
to,
but
this
is
part
of
the
process.
So
thank
you
for
facilitating
counselor
bach.
I
I
just
wanted
to
to
say,
as
we
start
really
thinking
about
this
work
and
funding
and
grants-
and
you
know
I
always
think
about
our
return
on
investment.
D
You
know,
and
the
only
thing
that
I
always
say
that
changes
are
the
characters
and
our
outfits,
and
maybe
our
hairstyles,
depending
on
kind
of
like
how
we
rock
it,
and
I
I'm
just
I'm
incredibly
encouraged
that
we're
moving
toward
towards
a
place
where
there's
more
intentionality
around
infrastructure,
so
that
we
can
really
tackle
the
root
causes
of
homelessness.
Because
what
it
seems
like
to
me.
D
It's
like
oftentimes
is
a
band-aid
approach,
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
start
really
thinking
about
deeper
work
to
to
address
this,
so
that
we're
not
spinning
our
wheels
in
in
this
cycle
of
dealing
with
the
housing
crisis.
And
so
I
just
want
to
offer
that
it's
just
as
something
for
us
to
just
continue
to
marinate
on.
D
The
other
is
to
keep
it,
and
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be
some
level
of
education
and
engagement
that
can
be
used
towards
prevention.
I
know
this
is
deep
intervention
right
now
and
but
I
think
that
we're
going
to
keep
having
the
same
conversation
unless
we
really
start
getting
serious
about
the
the
prevention
piece
of
it.
So
I
just
offer
that
as
something
for
us
to
say,
I
know
you're,
not
a
non-profit
organization,
good
god.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much
counselor
and
agree,
and,
and
honestly
I
think
you
know
well.
I
was
actually
on
with
a
bunch
of
the
folks
who
work
at
bha
earlier
today
and
I
think
people
were
there
were
also
saying
you
know
it's
so
important,
it's
so
important
for
us
to
have
the
services
piece
and
it's
so
important
to
councilman
he's
point.
You
know
one
of
the
problems
with
us,
privatizing
sort
of
even
our
publicly
supported
provision
of
housing.
B
Is
that
often
like
people
will
get
something
and
then
they
get
pushed
out
because
they
couldn't
follow
whatever
rules
and
rags
or
you
know
something
happened
and
then
suddenly
it's
like.
If
this
was
actually
a
public
resource,
we
would
be
the
safety
net
catching
you
then
we're
in
a
weird
position
of
being
the
public.
That's
in
the
safety
net,
catching
people
who
have
fallen
out
of
like
publicly
subsidized
private
housing,
but
with
far
fewer
resources.
I
don't
know
it's.
I
agree
with
councilman,
it's
a
real.
B
It's
a
it's,
a
real
area
of
worry
and
concern
that
I
think
like,
and
I
think
you
guys
see
in
your
work.
Specifically,
you
see
all
the
folks
who
have
not
been
well
served
by
the
various
housing
systems
that
we
have,
whether
that's
market
housing
or
heavily
regulated.
You
know
other
things
so,
but
grateful
that
you
have
these
resources
and
that
you're
being
so
thoughtful
intentional
about
them
and
certainly
intend
to
recommend
that
the
daca
pass.
B
If
you
guys
could
just
get
us
some
of
the
follow-up,
just
small
things
on
that
we
asked
on,
but-
and
I
guess,
if
you
could
also
just
send
us
the
rfp-
I
mean
I'm
sure
we
could
find
it
online,
but
just
so
that
we
can
kind
of
see
what
the
parameters
were.
That
were
set
that'd
be
great
and
I
don't
believe
carrie
do
we
have
any.
Is
there
anybody
signed
up
for
public
testimony.