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Working Session Dockets #1186, #1215, #1216, #1273 & #1275 -
Amending City Council electoral districts
A
Good
afternoon,
everyone,
this
is
a
meeting
of
the
my
name
is
Liz
Braden,
chair
of
the
city
council
committee
on
redistricting
and
we're
back
in
session.
Continuing
this
morning's
working
session,
counselors
will
have
a
packet
with
three
mat:
three
three
three
version:
three
versions:
the
original
file
version
of
the
royal
Britain
map
and
then
a
new
version
version
one
and
then
an
alternate
version.
This
is
the
the
narrowing
down
to
the
few
issues
of
concern
right
now
and
will
open.
A
B
A
Think
we
are
discussing
things
like
we
left
off
this
morning,
we're
still
in
in
the
midst
of
discussion.
I
know
we
people
had
questions
and
my
our
colleagues
are
on
their
way,
and
some
of
them
should
be
here
in
the
next
20
minutes.
B
A
And
I
also
realized
that
some
folks
have
a
have
a
commitment
this
evening
so
late
this
afternoon.
So
I'd
like
to
just
move
ahead
and
keep
talking
no.
B
That
that
makes
sense.
The
only
reason
I
was
asking
is
what
would
would
I
be
repeating
myself
again
going
speaking
now
and
then
speaking
when
my
colleagues
get
back
I'm,
just
I'm
just
I'm,
just
not
I'm,
not
concerned
about
it.
I
just
want
to
see
logistically
what
what
makes
the
most
sense
for
for
the
trio.
B
Okay
yeah,
thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
might
do
that.
If
that's
okay,
all
right,
yeah,
okay,.
C
Are
we
are
you
the
chair,
putting
forward
the
vote
tomorrow
on
10
26
so
that
we
can
have
it
in
time
for
the
11
November
7th
deadline?
Yes,
okay,
so
we
have
a
meeting
tomorrow
on
October
26th.
We
have
another
meeting
on
Wednesday
November,
the
2nd
we
don't,
and
then
we
don't
have
a
meeting
on
the
ninth.
But
we
as
a
body
and
I,
confirm
this
with
legal
counsel
in
the
clerk's
office
that
we
as
a
body
can
hold
a
council
meeting
at
any
time.
C
We
do
have
our
scheduled
Wednesday
at
noon,
meetings
that
are
set
for
the
year
there's
about
40
of
them
a
year.
But
as
long
as
we
give
a
48-hour
notice,
we
can
hold
a
council
meeting
and
take
a
vote
Friday.
We
can
take
it
Monday.
We
could
take
it
on
the
5th.
We
could
hold
a
council
meeting
at
any
time
and
not
have
to
rush
this
committee
report
for
tomorrow,
at
noon
and
I
just
want
to
put
it
out
there
that
there's
no
reason.
C
We
also
could
file
our
own
home
rule
petition
to
make
an
accept
exception
for
this
year.
Only
making
sure,
after
talking
to
the
elections
Department,
we
would
want
to
make
sure
that
we
worded
it
carefully
so
that
it
wasn't
going
forward
that
anyone
always
could
have
an
extension
for
where
they
live,
because
I
know
there
is
concern
which
I
agree
who
is
living
in
the
new
districts
as
changes
are
being
made.
C
A
C
C
A
We
send
our
proposal
our
preferred
map
to
the
mayor.
The
mayor
can
to
disapprove
it
as
the
term
usually
and
send
it
back.
So
we
we
give
ourselves
as
weak
so
that
we
could.
We
could
send
it
to
the
mayor.
She
could
disapprove
of
it.
Send
it
send
us
back
some
suggestions
and
alterations
that
you'd
like
to
see
and
then
we
could
approve
that
or
just
or
override
it
with
a
veto,
and
then
we
send
it
back
right
and.
C
A
A
We've
had
hearings
and
working
sessions
and
a
lot
of
pressure
on
our
on
our
on
our
Central
staff
and,
frankly,
all
of
us
have
other
important
work
to
be
doing,
and
all
of
our
other
priorities
and
legislative
priorities
are
sitting
on
the
sideline
waiting
for
this
to
get
done.
So
I
really
am
very
intentional
in
my
my
intention
or
my
desire
to
have
this
done
and
dusted
and
voted
on
tomorrow,
because.
C
I
would
I
would
like
that
too,
if
it
didn't
feel
rushed
and
I
agree,
and
when
we
went
through
the
budget
hearing,
it
seemed
like
everything
came
to
a
halt.
There
were
tens
and
20
meetings
a
week
and
hearings
and
meetings
out
in
the
district,
absolutely
I
agree
and
as
an
at
large
counselor
I
have
to
cover
even
more
across
the
city.
I
am
missing.
Events.
I
am
right
now,
but
I
do
believe
that
it
only
happens
once
every
10
years.
C
It's
not
yearly
like
the
budget,
and
we
do
have
to
know
and
I
think
that
it's
just
freeing
up
the
pressure
of
hurrying
up
to
just
get
something
passed
and
not
be
happy
with
it
that
we
could
have
the
meeting
tomorrow
morning,
Thursday
morning,
I'm
not
saying
month,
I'm,
not
saying
by
December
1st
I'm
saying
we
could
give
ourselves
a
little
breather
room.
If
my.
C
So
there
is
a
feeling
that
we
already
knew
that
this
map
and
many
people
even
submitted
absent
votes
for
the
council
meeting
last
week
in
a
working
session,
stating
in
writing
that
they
wanted
to
go
on
record,
saying
they're
in
favor
of
this
map
that
we
hadn't
even
worked
on,
and
we
weren't
even
sure
that
this
was
going
to
be
the
base
map
that
we
worked
off
of
and
I
do
think.
We
got
great
work
done
before
we
had
to
break
and
I
think
we
should
continue
the
good
work.
C
A
Voice
I
can
assure
you
that
when
the
map
that
was
offered
by
Advocates
was
brought
to
us,
we
were
not
counting
votes.
Okay,
I
was
not
polling
people.
There
was
a
meeting
in
private
rooms
with
large
groups
of
counselors,
but
and
and
in
the
course
of
all
the
conversations,
and
we
go
through
this
long
list
of
hearings
and
working
sessions.
You
know
you
get
the
sentiment
and
the
sense
of
what
people
have
said.
Yes,
they
approve
of
this.
They.
They
think
this
is
a
way
to
go.
A
So
you
know
we
have
a
sense
of
where
the
support
for
the
the
map
is
and
the
and
the
intention
of
working
to
create
an
opportunity
districts
in
in
District,
three
that
that
communities
of
color
have
have
an
opportunity
to
elect
a
candidate
of
their
choice
and
we've
gone
through.
We've
had
legal
advice.
Yes,
we
have
not
our
own
yet,
but
we've
had
analysis
from
several
different
experts.
Several
not
just
one.
Several.
C
Could
I
say
one
more
thing,
please
Madam
chair?
Yes,.
C
So,
when
first
of
all,
District
3
is
already
an
opportunity
District,
it
is
already
a
minority
majority.
I
know
we've
gone
back
and
forth
and
with
the
packing
and
the
terms
and
I've
done
my
homework
also,
but
I
want
to
say
something
different
when
this
task
was
brought
before
the
council
and
they
needed
to
add
a
fourth
opportunity.
District,
a
minority
majority
District,
the
then
chair
went
to
the
counselor
in
District
Five
and
said
it's
going
to
be
your
District,
we're
going
to
make
changes.
C
Yet
to
talk
about
it
in
its
feeling,
rush
I
do
think
that
there
should
be
some
Grace
and
there
should
be
some
time
and
there
should
be
some
pause
on.
What
is
this
going
to
mean
when
we're
looking
back
at
this
and
I
respect
you,
as
the
chair
and
I
respect
this
process,
but
I
have
also
done
my
homework
and
I
know
that
there
is
a
desire
to
make
changes
to
District
three.
C
There
is
no
legal
obligation
for
us
to
make
changes
to
District
three,
and
there
are
lots
of
elections
in
voting
patterns
that
show
District.
3
voters
will
vote
for
good
candidates,
they
have
and
they
will
no
matter
the
color
of
their
skin
so
making
and
knowing
that
District
3
needed
to
grow
because
we
all
said
from
the
beginning,
our
biggest
task
shrink
to
grow
three.
C
It's
now
wipe
out
the
bottom
of
three
make
this
change
to
four
and
then
save
some
parts
of
two
and
I
just
think
there
just
needs
to
be
more
conversation
and
I
know
the
public
is
watching
I
know
all
of
the
community
cares
I
care
also.
So
as
an
at-large
counselor
and
a
member
of
the
committee
I
just
want
to
go
on
record
saying
that
I
think
we're
rushing
this
and
it
can
be
done
before
the
11
7
date.
C
C
I
think
the
District
4
Council
would
be
a
wonderful
counselor
in
my
district
I
do
I,
don't
think
that
would
be
a
problem,
but
I
think
the
community
has
a
right
to
say
and
be
heard
and
they
haven't
yet
and
I
think
we
should
just
slow
down
and
if
the
votes
were
there,
I
think
they
were
already
there
and
I
just
want
to
go
on
record
for
saying
that.
Thank.
A
One
of
these
Maps,
actually
in
terms
of
you
know
you
offered
on
the
on
the
floor
this
morning,
that
you
would
consider
taking
seven
three
and
seven
one
and
tiered
in
seven
six
into
your
District.
D
A
D
C
D
But
my
question
again
being
if,
if
all
those,
if
I
was
gracious,
gracious
enough
to
say,
okay,
keep
the
community
together,
move
it
holy
over
the
over
to
District
Four,
and
then
this
is.
This
is
going
to
maybe
South
Boston
this
way,
trying
to
respect
the
housing
developments.
Why
is
that
not
reflective
here.
D
A
D
So
how
can
my
points?
How
come
my
points
that
were
raised
are
not
reflective
here,
I
thought
I
mean
just
a
little
while
ago,
seven
six,
all
this
was
was
off
the
table,
so
I
I
said:
okay,
I'll
go
another
way
into
South
Boston.
How
come
they're
not
reflective
here
and
is
that
you
making
the
decision
who
made
okay?
Let's
let's
say
this,
then,
who
made
that
decision
to
not
have
my
changes
in
here
in
my
demographics
here.
D
D
D
A
D
A
A
Your
map
actually
I,
don't
know
what
the
numbers
are,
but
I.
My
sense
of
your
map
was
that
the
the
opportunity
in
in
District
3
was
decreased.
D
A
That
look
a
lot
the
same
as
these.
So
in
terms
of
you
know,
the
numbers
of
variations
on
on
on
maps
Dr
Professor
duchen
sent
in
they
were
running,
possibly
like
tens
of
thousands
of
options
for
making
a
new
map
for
the
city
of
Boston.
So
we
we're
working
in
a
much
more
constrained
way.
I'm
thinking
about
small
changes,
these.
D
Okay,
so
let
me
ask,
let
me
ask
the
vice
chair
through
you,
Brian
how
well
counselor,
how
have
you
been
consulted
along
this?
The
way
here
like
did
you
are
we
gonna?
Are
we
gonna
vote
on
one
of
these
two
maps
here?
How
did
we
come
to
these
decisions.
D
D
D
D
G
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
say
that,
like,
as
everybody
here
knows,
that
it's
the
responsibility
of
the
chair
to
present
a
report,
and
the
chair
has
been
very
clear
that
she
intends
to
present
a
report
tomorrow
and
it's
well
within
the
chair
is
prerogative
to
say:
I
am
trying
to
get
the
sense
of
the
committee
on
various
options,
branching
off
of
the
main
option.
That
is
what
she
is
pursuing,
which
I
think
the
chair
has
been
pretty
clear
about,
and
it's
a
map
that
was
filed
with
her
name
on
it.
So
I
think.
G
The
fact
that
that
is
dissatisfying
to
colleagues
is
one
thing,
but
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
unusual
about
it
as
a
way
of
proceeding.
Right,
I.
Think
that,
like
the
reality
just
like,
when
we
were
talking
about
budget
stuff,
we
got
to
the
point
of
conversations
in
the
days
immediately.
Prior
of
okay
can
I
get
a
sense
of
the
meeting
on
XYZ,
but
not
on
ABC,
because
ABC
is
no
longer
sort
of
what
the
chair
is
deliberating
on.
G
So
it's
obviously
every
counselor's
prerogative
to
vote
against
a
committee
report,
but
I
think
that
it's
totally
reasonable
for
the
chair
to
set
the
agenda
based
on
how
she
wants
to
narrow
the
report-
and
you
know
and
and
that's
and
I
think
obviously
you
know
there
was.
There
was
some
reaction
to
your
proposed
map
at
counselor
Baker
from
the
South
Boston
delegation
earlier
this
morning,
or
maybe
it
was
the
afternoon
but
I
think
like
fundamentally
it's
up
to
the
chair
whether
she
wants
to
be
like.
G
Oh
actually,
that's
a
that's
a
new
base
map
that
I
might
propose
tomorrow.
So
let's
talk
about
that
more
or
that
is
not
a
new
base
map
that
I'm
going
to
propose
tomorrow.
So
it's
not
a
fruitful
place
to
dwell
for
the
conversation.
That's
just
I
just
think
the
chair
is
operating
as
any
of
us
would
in
a
situation
where
we
had
to
narrow
to
a
committee
report.
D
There's
no
consistency
here.
Well,
consistency
is
what
I'm
looking
for
we've
consistently
been
unconsistent
the
the
housing
developments
a
couple
nights
ago
needed
to
stay
in
South
Boston
needed
to
stay
in
South,
Boston
now,
I,
guess:
I,
don't
need
to
stay
in
South
Boston,
because
we're
going
to
vote
on
taking
767561
and.
A
A
D
D
A
The
base
map
was
basically
unifying
all
those
those
split
precincts
into
car
into
present-day
districts
so
that
we
could
start
moving
things
around
and
then
then
we
did
start
moving
things
around.
Then
that's
when
people
started
generating
their
own
Maps
cancer
Orion
cancer
Fernandez
drew
a
map,
country
Royal
and
myself
through
a
map.
Yeah.
G
D
D
E
D
A
Then
I'll
drop,
it
I
think
my
sense
from
my
colleagues
since
in
South
Boston
is
you
know,
they're
resistant
to
taking
anything.
Oh.
D
A
D
A
A
We've
been
joined
by
Council
colletta.
Would
you
like
to
take.
H
The
floor
yeah,
thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
unfortunately
have
to
leave
early,
so
I
wanted
to
be
sure
to
get
on
the
record
and
provide
my
comments
before
I
have
to
go
so.
Thank
you.
I
think
I
just
want
to
respond
directly
to
my
colleague
from
from
District
3,
councilor
Baker,
talking
about
consistency
and
how
this
has
been
a
messy
process.
I
think
bureaucracy
is
supposed
to
be
messy.
H
There
are
varying
interests
and
I
think
the
chair
has
provided
in
good
faith
a
compromise
and
has
shown
that
she's
willing
to
move
different
precincts
around
with
the
variations
that
are
presented
here
and
I.
Think
as
chair
just
to
double
down
and
Echo
counselor
box
comments
as
chair,
she
has
the
discretion
to
set
and
find
the
conversation
and
just
in
in
terms
of
votes,
already
being
counted
or
taken.
H
Clearly,
that's
not
the
case,
because
there
are
variations
here
and
there's
been
a
given
pull
as
there
should
be
in
this
process
and
so
anchoring
this
conversation
in
these
two
maps,
because
I
think
there's
some
there
there,
with
the
exception
of
the
housing
developments
in
in
South,
Boston
I
am
favorable
to
to
version
two.
That's
been
presented
here,
just
understanding
that
what
is
presented
right
now
in
version
one
where
it's
this
tea.
Looking
thing.
H
That
is
a
little
concerning
and
screams
gerrymandering
to
me
personally
with
three
fifteen
six
one,
six
ten,
so
I
am
favorable
to
version
two
I
don't
want
to
open
us
up
for
a
lawsuit.
But
what
does
concern
me
even
about
the
version
2
aspect
of
all
of
this
is
that
7576.
H
Has
I
think
it's
the
Ann
Lynch
home
at
Old
Colony
and
this
building
juts
into
7-4?
So
that's
something
that
I
think
is
outstanding,
that
we
have
to
figure
out
and
then
I
also
I
believe.
Based
on
what
councilor
Worrell
has
said
yesterday,
16-3
was
a
Precinct
of
concern
that
I
don't
think
that
we
have
figured
out
yet
and
I
do
support
it.
If
we
need
to
shed
down
there
to
go
up
into
7-4
that
we
should
consider
16-3
as
as
being
a
part
of
the
conversation.
H
A
A
So,
let's
get
down
to
talking
about
Maps
here
and
the
the
original
Royal,
the
first
page
is
spreading
a
royal
map
as
filed,
and
then
the
draft
version
is
the
T-shirt
or
the
tea
space.
I
think
we've
I
heard
that
it
does
look
weird
and
is
there
looking
weird
is,
is
a
possible
test,
but
we
also
need
to
consider
the
conversation
around
public
housing
in
in
this
in
in
District,
2
and
Country.
A
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
you?
Have.
G
The
floor.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
yeah.
A
couple
of
thoughts
on
this
one
would
just
be
that
I
I
do
think
it
would
be
worth
asking
the
question
of
so.
If
I'm
on
the
the
t-shaped
one
that
has
610
in
District
three,
you
know
taking
610
out
of
District
three,
putting
it
back
into
District
Two
and
then
looking
at
moving
15
to
into
District
three
I
think
would
be
good
and
then
I
think
you'd
probably
still
need
to
then
you'd
need
to
flip
something
into
District
2.
G
To
get
it
down
below
so
options
on
that
front
would
be
a
one
option
would
be
four
three:
the
Tent
City
Precinct
going
into
District
Seven,
but
I'm
cognizant
of
the
concern
about
the
overall
black
population
in
district
7.
I.
Think
four
three
is
a
more
diverse
Precinct
than
a
lot
of
the
South
End
ones,
but
another
another
option
would
be
flipping:
513
Bay
Village
into
District,
eight
I'm
just
but
that's
like
the
only
Precinct
there
that
I
could
add
and
still
be
under
the
five
percent
threshold.
G
But
that
would
be
those
would
be
a
couple
of
suggestions
on
how
to
how
to
remove
610,
while
still
trying
to
keep
all
the
public
housing
in
South
Boston.
Another
thing
I
wanted
to
say
if
you
went
to
the
if,
if
you
I
I
do
think,
look
I
think
so,
maybe
staying
on
this
page
just
to
be
simple.
But
if.
G
I
think
that
if
for
some,
if
we
cannot
keep
7-6
in
District,
Two
like
if
that
had
to
flip
to
seven
to
to
District
three,
my
instinct
would
actually
still
be
to
keep
seven
five
in
District
Two,
because
even
though
I
agree
and
I've
said
like
I,
don't
think
we
should
be
splitting
Old
Colony,
as
was
just
alluded
to
by
councilor
Coletta.
G
Oh
Colony
will
already
be
split
if
it's
not
in
District
Two,
because
it's
it's
in
partly
in
in
producing
four
as
well
and
the
and
the
thing
is
that
I
know
that
seven
five
also
has
the
West
Ninth
elderly
community
and
and
that
they
affiliate
very
strongly
with
South
Boston
and
again,
as
I've
made
a
couple
as
at
the
point
I
made
a
couple
of
times.
G
The
problem
with
the
South
Boston
precincts
as
a
way
of
increasing
pop
in
District
three
is
that
they
tend
to
even
the
ones
with
public
housing
tend
to
push
the
overall
white
numbers
up
in
District
three.
So
so
those
would
be.
My
thoughts
Madam
chair
is
to
get
rid
of
the
gerrymander
look
of
610,
but
then,
but
then
flip
15
2
into
D3
and
then
make
up
the
population
issue
in
District
2
with
either
four
three
into
district
7
or
513
into
District,
8.
G
or,
if
one,
if,
if
you,
if
for
some
reason,
all
those
pop
those
moves
don't
work
to
if
we
have
to
keep
seven
six
in
District
3
to
still
flip
seven,
five
back,
because
I
just
think
with
what,
with
West
9th
Street.
Knowing
what
I
know
about
that
elderly
Community,
given
the
fact
that
Old
Colony
won't
be
whole
anyways,
the
Old
Colony
part,
that's
in
seven,
five
can
be
with
the
seven
four
and
then
we've
split
in
seven
six
and
then
I
still
think.
There's
the
possibility
of
you
know.
G
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
just
listening
to
some
of
my
colleagues
comments.
But
you
know
I've
said
it.
I've
said
it
several
times,
but
it's
it's
critical
that
the
public
housing
developments
that
are
currently
in
D2
stay
indeed
to
and
that's
that's
important,
especially
the
especially
the
West
9th
Street,
the
the
West
Broadway
in
Lynch
homes,
West
West
Broadway,
is
West.
Broadway
development
is
probably
less
than
100
yards
from
my
house.
It's
right
right
where
they're
calling
to
the
school
is
that's
where
the
bcyf
Center
is
in
South
Boston.
B
They
play
a
critical
role
in
the
public
housing
developments
in
terms
of
Social
Services.
For
for
residents
again,
that's
only
that's
only
a
100
100
yards
from
from
my
home
I
I,
walk
by
there
every
day
by
West
Broadway
development,
along
with
West
9th
Street
I,
give
off
of
F
Street
F
in
West
4th
Street
and
those
are
all
my
those
are.
My
neighbors
in
Lynch
home
is,
is
only
a
100
yards
also
for
my
from
my
home.
B
So
you
know
maintaining
the
public
housing
developments
in
South
Boston
is
important
and
we're
working
together
to
try
to
renovate
as
many
public
housing
developments
as
we
as
we
possibly
can
at
Ian
Lynch
at
West,
Broadway
and
and
certainly
I
support,
Mary
Ellen
McCormick
development.
It's
not
it's
not
in
my
district,
but
that's
also
important
too.
B
To
support
and
I
also
was
a
strong
leader
and
strong
Advocate
on
that
50
million
dollars
that
went
to
other
public
housing
developments.
I,
don't
know,
Council
block
was
that
in
Jamaica
Plain
last
year,
or
so.
G
Oh
yeah,
there
were
some
in
Jamaica.
There
was
a
number
of
places,
but
yeah
yeah.
B
So,
whether
it's
in
my
district
or
or
across
the
city,
I've
always
supported
residents
of
public
housing,
but
it's
important
that
the
public
housing
developments
in
South
Boston
continue
to
stay
there
in
District,
2.
I
know,
Council
block
highlighted
a
couple
of
other
issues
and
certainly
as
I
as
I
mentioned
yeah.
During
this
process,
I
provided
a
list
of
at
least.
B
14.
presents
that
that
I
will
that
I
was
willing
to
depart
from
and
I
know.
I
know
it's
hard
to
do,
but
I
I
stated
it
publicly,
and
you
know
that's
a
that's.
A
hard
thing
to
do
is
to
recommend
a
Precinct
that
they
that
I
no
longer
think
it
makes
sense
for
for
them
to
be
in
District
Two,
although
I
I
really
want
them
to
stay
in,
but
in
the
interest
of
fairness
and
getting
this
process
done.
B
You
know
I
think
it's
important
that
we
continue
to
work
together
and
and
listen
to
each
other
and
try
to
treat
each
other
with
respect,
as
as
I
have
mentioned
during
this
process
and
work
closely
with
each
other.
But
there's
always
a
give
and
take
I
I
again,
I
had
to
recommend
over
14
precincts
that
I
had
to
recommend
that
would
leave
District
2
very
difficult
to
do,
but
that's
but
I
think
we
all
have
to
share
in
some
of
the
difficult
decisions
that
are
that
are
taking
place.
A
Thank
you,
councilor
Flynn,
councilor,.
I
Royal,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
trying
to
piece
together
what's
in
front
of
me
and
so
I
just
want
to
do
a
quick
just
what's
what
I'm?
Looking
at
so
I
see
one
as
filed
I
see
a
second
one,
which
is
the
new
draft
version
which
people
are
calling.
The
T-bone,
which
I
agree,
looks,
looks
like
I
think
that's
toeing
the
line
there
and
then
the
new
draft
version,
2
I,
noticed
on
this
one,
because
I
had
made
suggestions
on
the
floor
and
I'm
just
seeing
this
now
315.
I
So
six,
it
looks
like
six
three
was
removed,
but
315
wasn't
added.
Instead,
4-5
was
added
to
D7,
and
one
of
the
concerns
I
had
about
that
was
the
district
7
number
for
for
black
population,
and
so
is
in
terms
of
the
data
that
I'm
looking
at
over
on
this
side
and
I.
Think
Wayne.
You
might
be
the
better
person
to
answer
this.
Is
that
data
the
the
updated
data
that
we
have
with
like
all
of
the
okay
perfect?
I
So
that's
separate,
and
apart
from
what
district
art
might
show,
thank
you,
and
just
so
that
I
understand
it
for
people
who
are
watching
this
and
trying
to
figure
that
out,
basically
for
the
purposes
of
the
census.
District
R
separates
people
who
are
mixed
race
black
white
into
a
different
category,
but
for
the
purposes
of
redistricting
someone
who
is
a
mix
of
black
and
white
is
actually
considered
black
for
redistricting.
So
that's
essentially
mixed
race.
I
Thank
you,
but
mixed
race,
specifically
with
black,
and
so
that
answers
that
question
that
I
had
about
that
number.
And
then
this
one
here
I
had
to
leave
early
for
a
family
situation.
Is
this
the
one
that
Frank
Baker
was
proposing
the
the
last
one
that
we
got.
A
B
A
A
I
think
Contra
box
suggestion
about
switching
putting
610
back
in
in
District
Two,
putting
it
back
in
yellow
and
then
moving
15
to
from
District
4
into
District
3
as
a
way
to
balance
the
population,
maybe
a
possible
workaround,
to
make
that
more
visually
acceptable
and
without
without
moving
the
numbers
too
much.
A
610
would
remain
would
go
in
would
be
in
District,
Two
and
15
2
would
move
from
District
4
into
District
3.,
and
it's
really
just
a
balancing
of
the
the
numbers,
because
there
are
similar
size,
precincts
I.
Think
one
of
the
challenges
in
this
whole
exercises
that
we
desperately
need
to
have
some
more
representing
done,
because
there's
huge
one
Precinct
is
not
equal
to
another
in
terms
of
population.
Okay,.
C
Here
just
a
couple
things
so:
first
through
the
chair
to
council
abach.
If
that's
okay,
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
heard
you
right,
but
when
you
gave
the
explanation
of
the
chair
when
you
said
that
the
first
two
version,
one
and
version
two
came
from
a
sense
from
the
committee.
Did
you
say
Council
lebach.
G
C
C
Had
absolutely
I
know
I
understood
that,
but
we
didn't
right,
but
only
some
of
the
conversations,
because
I
think
Council
Baker
made
it
clear
that
none
of
the
suggestions
that
he
had
made
earlier
but
I
do
have
one
question
and
maybe
Wayne
or
through
the
chair.
You
could
help
when
I
first
saw
the
packet,
though
and
I
see
version
one,
and
then
you
offered
version
two
was
version
two,
like
kind
of
a
little
bit
better.
C
You
thought
than
version
one,
or
were
they
just
two
different
scenarios
that
you
wanted
to
look
at
separately
or
because
I
looked
at
this
first
saying
here's
the
base,
the
Brayden
docket
one,
two,
seven
five
and
then
I
see
version.
One
and
I
understand
that
you
were
saying
you
were
listening
to
some
of
what
the
con
some
of
the
councilors
were
saying
about
changes
and
then
I'm
looking
at
version
two,
so
did
you
want
us
to
really
Zone
in
on
version
two,
because
you
liked
that
one
the
best
or
are
both
side
by
side.
C
C
Because
I
would
just
reiterate
the
block
16
9,
which
is
something
I
had
also
suggested
and
not
being
a
member
of
the
committee.
I
did
say
that
those
four
should
stay
together.
C
D
You
I
have
to
agree
16-9,
that's
definitely
part
of
that
neighborhood.
It
either
all
stays
together
with
me.
This
is
my
opinion.
Either
all
stays
with
me
or
all
goes
to
Brian,
that's
16,
8,
16,
9.,
11
and
12,
and
then
17
13.
D
and
again
we're
at
a
logger
Jam
here
because
of
the
interests
in
South
Boston,
which
I
think
we
all
agree.
We
don't
want
to.
We
don't
want
to
split
up
housing
developments,
I
think
the
housing
developments
in
South
Boston
do
pretty
well
I
work
with
the
non-profits
say
the
non-profits
that
work
of
in
South
Boston
do
a
good
job
in
their
in
their
housing
developments
and
working
with
their
their
strong
elected
delegation
over
there,
and,
quite
frankly,
we
don't
need
to
go
into
South,
Boston
I.
D
D
The
compact
ability
of
a
district
is
so
you
can
develop
common
interests
within
a
district
and
I
would
venture
to
say
that
if
you
sent
me
over
into
17
down
on
my
lower
down
on
my
lower
border,
that
would
that
would
provide
an
effective,
ineffective,
District
and
also
back
to
the
changes
that
I
made
this
morning.
D
District
4
gets
14.8
percent
white.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
we're
we're
looking
to
do,
even
though
the
expert
last
week
said
don't
be
chasing
percentages,
it
seems.
That's
all
we're
doing
is
chasing
percentages
totally
unhappy
with
all
these
Madam
chair,
as
you
can,
as
you
can
see,
as
you
can
hear,
I,
don't
think
it's
right.
What
you're
doing
too
my
lower
my
lower
precincts
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
be
going
in
there
and
I
could
can't
say
it
anymore.
D
I
can't
bring
in
any
more
people
to
to
try
and
impress
upon
you
in
the
in
the
in
the
committee
or
any
more
emails.
Do
we
have
a
list
of
how
many
emails
come
in
from
Ward
16
asking
you
pleading
with
you
telling
you
that
we're
we're
a
community?
Do
we
have
any
sense
of
what
that
is?
Should
we
report
out
on
who's
sending
in
like
how
many
emails
have
we
got.
D
B
Yeah
thank
thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
want
to
just
want
to
highlight
again.
B
Good
you
know
on
on
these
on
these
maps
on
version
two,
you
know
as
as
we
mentioned
the
T
shape,
but
on
version
three
we
would
lose
that
I,
District
Two
would
lose
the
Ann
Lynch
homes
6-1.
B
So
you
know
so
I
think
there's,
there's
still
there's
still
more
work
and
I'm
willing
to
work
with
everybody.
This
there's
still
a
lot
of
work
left
to
be
done,
but
the
you
know
I'm
going
to
continue
to
work
with
my
colleagues,
but
you
know
it's
important
that
I'll
I
can
stress
it
again
that
public
housing
stays
in
the
public
housing.
Developments
in
in
South
Boston
really
have
to
stay
in
District
Two.
That's.
B
That's
that
that's
important,
I'm,
I'm,
willing
and
open
willing
to
work
with
my
colleagues
on
other
scenarios,
as
as
I
have
mentioned,
because
I'm
I'm
the
person
that
I'm
the
person
that
gave
recommended
15
precincts
to
to
depart
from
District
Two,
so
I'm
I'm
willing
to
work
with
my
colleagues,
but
you
know
I
hope.
My
colleagues
will
also
understand
that
when
you,
when
I,
recommend
15
precincts
to
to
be
departed
or
to
leave
from
District
Two,
that's
that's
not
an
easy
thing
to
do.
B
So.
Just
want
to
ask
my
colleagues
to
understand
that,
but
also
to
understand
that
you
know
this
this
process,
this
District
redistricting
process.
It
really
needs
all
of
us
to
be
involved
and
take
a
little
bit
of
take
a
little
bit
of
precincts
or
or
area
that
they
might
not
know
or
be
or
or
or
be
familiar
with
so
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
for
all
of
us
to
continue
to
work
together
and
try
to
come
up
with
a
plan.
B
F
My
concern
with
this
move
is
just
making
sure
that
we,
you
know
well,
one
I
feel
like
we
go
further
down
into
the
standard
deviation
by
making
that
move.
I
believe
it's
now.
It
will
be
like
five
point,
trying
to
take
a
look
at
this
real,
quick
5.58
with
that
move
and
then
also
a
little
concerned
on
what
now
District
Four
will
be
the
lowest
population,
and
what
would
that
do
in
terms
of
black
Effectiveness
in
terms
of
of
the
vote?
G
No
I
mean
I
I.
Take
that
I.
Take
that
point.
Yeah
I've
been
testing
a
bunch
of
different
things
over
here,
so
I
feel
like
I'm
still
in
process,
but
yeah
I,
just
yeah
and
like
I
said
there
are
also
yeah
I.
Think
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
I,
don't
have
it.
You
know
I
mean
I,
think.
Obviously
it's
all
it's
all
pushing
and
pulling
the
balloon
right.
So
it's
all
a
question
of
sort
of
what's
the
scale
of
any
of
these
changes,
but
but
yeah
we'll
look
at
that.
Counselor
Laurel.
C
Yes,
sorry
I
was
so
one
thing
first
Madam
chair,
if
you
could
remind
me,
I
know
that
we
have
lots
of
data
handed
out
in
the
presentation
this
morning
from
the
attorney,
and
you
know
the
two
people
earlier
when
I
had
requested.
Remember
you
said
you
had
wanted
in.
Was
it
voting
turnout,
analyzation
of
the
turn
out
that
you
were
gonna
get
and
you
were
hoping
to
have
by
last
night
from
the
attorneys?
Is
that
what
was
presented
to
us
or
are
we
still
waiting
for
our
legal
counsel
to
present
I.
C
C
And
that's
what
we
all
heard
here
that
they
shared
to
you?
Yes,
okay,
awesome!
Thank
you.
One
thing
I
just
want
to
put
out
and
I'll
say
again:
I'm,
not
a
District
counselor
I'm,
an
at
large
counselor,
so
I
do
respect
that
the
district
councilors,
take
it
upon
themselves
to
share
out
and
show
up-
and
you
know,
however,
if
it's
newsletters
Community
meetings,
events
to
make
sure
that
their
district
is
aware
of
what's
going
on,
and
this
is
a
big
thing.
It's
some
like
we
said
earlier.
C
Some
districts
are
being
more
affected
than
others,
but
I
do
just
want
to
go
on
record,
saying
that
there's
real
concerns
of
open
meeting
law
violations
when
we
as
District,
councilors
or
at-large
counselors,
are
holding
Community
meetings
to
discuss
redistricting
Maps
the
meeting
I
attended
with
you
that
we
publicly
noticed
48
hours
in
Dorchester.
C
That
was
a
city
council
meeting
that
we
can
all
speak
at.
But
when
it
was
kind
of
said
that
some
counselors
it
was
on
them
to
really
talk
to
and
do
their
work
in
their
District
I
have
to
kind
of
push
back
and
say
that
we're
you
know
walking
a
thin
line
there
and
the
Attorney
General's
office
has
said
to
me
that
there's
lots
of
red
flags
here
and
are
we
violating
open
meeting
law,
which
is
something
I
know
as
a
body
we
don't
want
to
do?
C
C
A
And
and
thank
you
councilor
Murphy
I
think
the
meetings
that
are
fellow
District
councilors
have
hosted
on
on
Zoom
Etc
I
made
an
effort
to
attend
as
many
as
I
could
I
was
there
to
listen.
There
was
no
deliberation
among
counselors
that
I
that
I
could
see
in
in
those
meetings.
We
were
there
to
listen
to
the
community.
A
A
A
C
C
C
Looking
at
the
demographics,
not
at
the
precincts,
if
we
weren't
looking
at
a
map,
but
just
looking
at
that
data,
I
think
that
in
many
ways
those
numbers
are
what
I've
been
hearing
through
this
whole
process.
They
were
hitting
the
goal
of
what
many
people
I
think
a
majority
of
us
as
a
body
wanted
to
see.
C
No,
it
would
be
the
I
guess,
we'll
call
it
the
district
three
map.
It
would
have
been
the
Amendments
that
Council
the
baker
had
suggested
earlier.
That
didn't
make
it
into
one
of
the
versions
version
one
or
two,
and
thank
you
if
it
was
Wayne
or
both,
probably
both
Shane,
that
handed
it
out
separately.
So
it
wasn't
stapled
to
the
back
end.
It
was
the
single
one
and
it
just
has
the
breakdown
of
the
different
white
black
Hispanic,
and
then
it
gets
cut
off
a
little
bit.
C
Because
I
did
hear
Council
I
mean
everyone,
we
don't
have
to
call
people
out.
We
were
all
here,
I
feel
like
those
numbers
are
what
we
were
aspiring
for
and
I
mean,
because
I
also
heard
about
concerns
in
D3
and
I
know
it's
words
but
words
matter
and
I
would
say
when
we're
not
in
any
voting
rights
violation-
and
we
know
we
just
have
to
accept
for
population
that
the
word
concern
can
be
concerning
right
is
it
aspirations?
Is
it?
C
You
know,
hopes
which
are
I
mean
for
some
people,
that's
their
prerogative
I'm
not,
but
for
me
I
think.
We
need
to
really
make
sure
we're
choosing
our
words
correctly,
because
D3
needed
to
grow
D2
needed
to
shed
and
thank
you,
councilor
Flynn,
president
Flynn
I
know
it's
always
hard
to
give
up
neighborhoods
precincts
because
of
course,
you're
thinking
of
people.
You
know
who
lives
there.
A
Okay,
yeah,
we've
so
I,
think
and
and
there's
some
consensus
that
taking
district
and
like
6
10
out
of
District
Two.
This
is
so
we
put
that
back
in
in
the
Latin
version,
two
I.
A
And
then
the
conversation
about
public
housing
in
the
initial
version
district
and
the
first
as
first
filed
6-3,
was
in
District
going
into
District
three.
So
we've
put
that
back
into
District
Two.
B
A
There
is
that
was
the
original
filing
filing
that
we
made
solely
understanding
that
we
were
going
to
have
this
conversation.
A
So
six
three
was
put
into
into
District
through
into
District
three,
and
we
heard
the
concerns
that
you
know
that
that
would
that
would
split
the
is
it
West
Broadway
yeah,
and
that
it
belonged
with
this
with
six
two,
so
that
those
two
precincts
would
stay
together,
yeah
yeah
right
and
stay
in
District
Two.
They
wouldn't
be
separated.
Six.
A
And
then
that
brings
us
to
seven
five
and
seven.
Six.
Seven
seven
is
already
in
District
three
and
it's
it's
adjacent
to
seven,
six
and
seven
five
in
in
the
first
version,
there
was
a
proposal.
If
we
had
there
was
to
keep
them
both
together
in
in
District
two
and
then
the
version
two
is
to
keep
them
together,
but
put
them
both
together
in
because
they
belong
together
in
a
sense
and
they're
they're.
They
would
also
be
reunite.
A
They
would
be
you
in
the
same
space
as
as
Mary
Ellen
McCormick,
and
they
would
all
be
in
District.
Three
and
I
I
know
that
Contra
Bach
I,
don't
know
if
you're
here
earlier,
but
counselor
block
with
the
knowledge
of
the
BHA
housing
in
that
space
suggested
that
possibly
you
know,
keeping
seven
five
in
in
District
Two
and
Landing.
Seven
six
join
seven,
seven
in
District
three.
G
Was
saying
was
I
offered
several
ways
to
keep
all
of
the
public
housing
in
District
Two,
which
I
continue
to
think
is
the
preference
and
I
continue
to
think
there
are
multiple
ways
to
do,
but
then
what
I
was
saying
is
that
if,
in
the
Judgment
of
the
committee
that
is
not
possible,
then
I
actually
think
that
going
back
to
splitting
seven
five
from
seven
six,
letting
seven
five
go
to
D2
and
putting
seven
six
in
D3
makes
sense,
because
the
reality
is
that,
if
seven,
if
seven,
five
and
six
like
basically
because
old
colonies,
split
across
three
precincts
and
there's
already
a
significant
portion
of
it
in
seven
four,
then
if
you
put
seven
five,
also
in
D2
at
least
even
though
they're
not
literally
connected
right.
G
It's
like
those
like
two
two
of
the
three
precincts
with
little
Colony
are
together
then,
and
the
reason
that
I
was
suggesting.
That
is
because
the
West
Ninth
BHA
elderly
development
is
in
seven
five,
those
folks,
you
know
they
there's
lots
of
long-term
tenants
in
there.
G
But
what
I
was
saying
is
that,
basically,
that
it's
better
to
split
the
baby
here
than
to
like
bring
I,
don't
think
that
I,
don't
I,
think
you
definitely
don't
have
to
move
seven
five
and
seven
six,
both
into
D3,
which
is
what
the
last
option
in
the
map
is
suggesting
and
I'm,
saying
that
it
would
be
better
to
keep
seven
six
and
D3
and
put
seven
five
in
D2
I.
Think
then
to
sort
of
pull
them
both
across
the
border
together.
G
B
B
So
seven
five
and
seven
six,
it
would
be
or
the
recommendation
it
would
be.
Split.
Because,
because
why?
Because
that
I'm,
I'm
District
Two
is
overpopulation
or
or.
G
If
I
can
speak
to
that,
so
I
think
that
they're
in
yeah,
so
basically
the
challenges,
District
Two
being
overpopulation,
so
I
made
several
suggestions.
You
know
I
think
that
there
are
ways
I
think,
as
I
said,
that
you
could
potentially
put
Tent
City
into
District
Seven.
Alternatively,
you
could
put
a
village
into
me,
like
I,
think
there
are
a
number
of
ways
that
we
could
get
the
population
down
so
that
both
of
them
can
come
over
and
I
still
think.
That's
the
better
thing
to
do.
G
Think
that
you
know
it
would
be
one
thing
if
we're
really
uniting
old
colony
there
and
and
I
hear
Council
Royal's
point
on
the
connection
with
the
Maryland
McCormick,
but
I
think
that
well
there
may
be
that
connection
there.
It
certainly
is
that
connection
for
folks
for
folks
in
Old
Colony,
and
you
can
make
that
argument.
I
think
that
the
West
Ninth
folks,
like
it's
very
strongly
oriented
towards
District
Two,
so
I'm,
just
saying
that
I
think
that
would
be
the
second
best
option.
G
After
keeping
the
two
together,
which
again
I
think
there's
a
bunch
of
ways
to
do,
but
I
think,
obviously
those
ways
are
and
I'm
trying
right
now
to
make
sort
of
a
list
of
all
of
the
ways
that
you
could
keep
them
all
in
District,
Two,
but
I
know
that
there
are
various
push-pulls
from
other
counselors
about
whether
people
want
that.
B
Yeah
I
mean
I
I
mean
my
my
view
is
I.
Think
people
know
what
my
view
is
that
I
want
to
I
want
to
keep
seven
five
and
seven
six
together,
I
like
to
keep
BHA
United
BHA
residents
United,
but
but
then
I
go
back
to
my.
My
other
point,
though,
is
I.
I
have
recommended.
B
A
I
know
you
you've
you've
offered
a
list
of
of
precincts
that
could
be
moved.
I.
Think
one
of
the
challenges
for
us
is
that,
where
do
we
move
them,
that
many
of
the
contiguous
districts
are
already
at
maximum
population
and
putting
a
so
there's
really
nowhere
to
put
them?
So
this
is
why
we're
sort
of
in
this
tight
Corner.
B
You
know
I'm
I'm
still
willing
to
work
with
my
colleagues
and
and
and
be
be
as
reasonable
as
I,
possibly
can
knowing
that
I'm
way
overpopulation,
but
if,
but
if,
but
if
a
a
district,
that's
exactly
that
population,
you
know.
Maybe
there
has
to
be
a
little
bit
of
you
know.
I
think.
B
The
only
way
this
works
is
if
we
each
give
up
a
little
bit
or
or
or
sacrifice
a
little
bit,
I
mean
I'm
I'm,
so
I'm
certainly
sacrificing
a
lot
I'm,
not
asking
anyone
to
do
something
that
I'm
not
doing
but
I'm
just
asking
people
to
be
reasonable
that
they
may
have
it
especially
a
district
council.
They
may
have
an
extra
Precinct
that
there
they
might
be
unfamiliar
with
and
in
US
District
City
councilors
know.
B
B
So
I
I
highlight
that,
because
that
my
my
nine
District
colleagues,
all
of
them
are,
are
extremely
hard
workers
and
they
they
can
potentially
go
into
a
new
Precinct
and
and
and
do
extremely
well
there
based
on
their
work
ethic.
Thank
you,
councilor
Flynn
thank.
I
And
thank
you
council
president
Flynn.
Obviously
I've
noted
this
before.
In
my.
In
my
opinion,
you
have
one
of
the
hardest
parts
of
this,
because
you're
shedding
everything
and
not
really
getting
anything
and
that's
very
difficult
to
give
and
not
get
anything
new
I
know.
I
People
are
getting
new
precincts
that
some
of
the
folks
have
different
levels
of
excitement
about
some
of
these
precincts
that
they're
getting,
but
they
still
get
to
get
new
precincts
in
new
neighborhoods
and
new
projects
and
new
people,
and
in
your
case,
you're
just
losing
people
and
so
I
understand
that
that
is
difficult
in
terms
of
just
and
I
said
it
in
the
AM
session.
I
just
want
to
say
it
in
the
PM
session,
because
I
understand
that
a
lot
of
the
focus
on
this
right
now
is
is
D2
for
many
reasons.
I
But
the
overarching
focus
for
for
me
and
all
of
the
maps
that
have
my
name
to
differing
degrees
of
success
is
to
try
to
do
what
I
consider
sort
of
the
Mandate
that
we
have
with
the
Voting
Rights
Act,
which
talks
specifically
to
the
idea
of
opportunity
districts,
opportunity
districts
which
are
districts
that
are
defined
by
having
a
majority
minority
population
and
in
this
case,
that's
District,
five
district,
seven
district,
four
and
District
three
and
the
Mandate
essentially
is
to
strengthen
those.
I
And
so
there's
a
push
and
pull
here
at
the
balance
of
you
know
at
a
certain
level,
if
you're,
if
you're
you're
doing
some
of
these,
is
it
really
strengthening
D3
as
an
opportunity
District
at
a
certain
level?
If
you,
if
you
push
in
this
way
in
D7,
is
that
strengthening
D7,
District
Seven,
specifically
as
the
opportunity
District,
the
same
questions
come
up
with
District
Five,
and
then
we've
had
to
wrestle
with
some
of
the
questions
about.
Are
you
pushing
or
pulling
too
much
from
District
Four,
which
is
an
opportunity
District?
I
From
the
standpoint
of
I've
heard
different
variations
of
this,
which
is,
we
can
do
seven,
six
and
seven
seven
or
we
can
do
seven,
five,
seven,
six
and
seven
seven,
which
is
what
was
presented
in
the
original
Baseline
I,
believe
like
six
three
as
well,
which
isn't
here,
which
is
fine,
because
I
talked
about
replacing
six
three
with
315
But.
Ultimately,
those
decisions
should
be
centered
around
what
serves
District
3
best,
not
what
what
does
something
specifically
for
District,
Two,
And
I.
Think
part
of
what
I
want
to
make
sure
is
clear.
I
Is
that
as
we
do
this
and
we're
talking
about
moving
precincts
or
disrupting
portions
of
this
map
that
it
it
be
done
with
a
focus
on
what
actually
serves
the
best
interest
of
creating
District
three
as
a
or
strengthening
District?
Three
as
an
opportunity,
District
without
detrimentally,
impacting
for
seven
and
and
five
and
I,
get
that
that's
a
dance
and
it's
difficult.
I
But
some
of
these
things
like
when
I
look
at
this
map
about
the
and
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
it
so
that
people
can
see
it
because
I
think
it's
it
shows
you
how
bad
the
precinct
drawing
process
is
and
I
don't
think
that
there's
a
an
accident.
If
we
do,
we
have
like
an
online
version
of
the
precinct.
That
is
the
precincts
that
we're
talking
about
just
so
because
I
know
when
we're
speaking
on
the
YouTube
live.
It
shows
these
maps.
I
You
can
see
sort
of
the
conundrum
that
we're
talking
about
with
the
BHA,
which
is
that
seven
seven
squarely
holds
the
McCormick
Mariela
McCormick
housing.
But
if
you
look
at
the
A
M
Lynch
homes,
they
did
this
really
at
God
knows
I,
don't
know
what
they
were
trying
to
do
with
these
prisons,
but
basically-
and
it's
possible
that
we're
trying
to
split
these
BHA
housing
when
they
did
this
Precinct
thing.
Who
knows
when?
But
you
look
at
that
map
and
it
basically
cuts
into
three
different
places.
I
The
vast
majority
of
the
Ann
Lynch
homes,
though,
are
in
seven
five
and
in
seven
six
and
I.
Think
if
you
are
going
to,
which
is
what
my
preference
is,
keep
them
together,
then
it
makes
more
sense
to
keep
them
together
in
District
three,
with
the
with
the
overall
focus
and
goals
that
I'm
speaking
to.
I
If,
especially,
if
the
argument
is
that
we're
separating
these
homes,
because
I'm
very
familiar
with
this
area,
I
have
a
Godfather
who
lives
on
M,
Street
I've
been
going
to
Southie
since
I
was
a
kid
and
you
pass
through
this
day,
Boulevard
on
the
way
there
and
you
realize
really
quickly
that
they
share
resources,
so
Mary
Ellen,
McCormick
and
Ann
Lynch.
They
share
the
moakley
field.
They
share
Carson
Beach.
I
They
share
all
these
sort
of
things
that
are
right
there
next
to
each
other,
and
so,
if
the
goal
here
is
to
not
separate
them,
I
recognize
and
it's
unfortunate
on
the
way
that
they
did
these
precincts.
That
there's
a
portion
of
this
that
falls
into
7-4,
but
the
vast
majority
of
it
is
split
between
two
and
three
and
I
would
say.
I
If
you
had
to
pick
a
vast
majority
on
that,
the
vast
majority
in
in
terms
of
sorry,
six,
seven,
six
and
seven
five,
and
if
you
had
to
pick
up
part
of
those
three
splits
where
it's
most
predominant,
it
is
in
seven
six
with
a
with
a
portion
that
is
sort
of
a
second
size,
smaller
in
seven
five
and
then
a
teeny
space,
a
teeny
piece
in
seven
four.
But
if
you're
going
to
do
this,
I
think
they
should
be
together.
I
I
think
that
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
it's
those
demographic
numbers
that
are
incredibly
important
and
if
you're
trying
to
make
those
demographic
numbers
up
in
other
places,
then
you
start
to
try
and
take
them
from
District
Four.
You
start
to
try
and
take
them
from
district
seven
or
you
sort
of
push
District
Seven,
and
so
those
are
the
major
concerns
that
I
have
about
that
and
I
would
just
you
know
again,
I
mean
I,
think
everybody
said
it.
I
I
don't
want
to
harp
on
it,
but
the
the
six
one,
the
six
ten
to
three
one,
five
I,
just
don't
think
that's
gonna,
hold
up
I,
think
I.
Think
I've
heard
from
everybody
that
that's
not
something
we
think
will
hold
up,
but
my
focus
on
this
has
been
squarely
on
strengthening
these
districts
as
best
we
can
and
I.
Actually,
you
know
have
tried
this
two
different
ways
again.
I
So,
there's
there's
variations,
but
I
still
think
that,
in
terms
of
where
we're
at
at
this
hour
and
with
the
sort
of
the
amount
of
sort
of
push
and
pull
between
dueling
circumstances,
I
think
the
7576
makes
sense
and
I
think
if
you
were
going
to
add
something,
it's
not
to
add
four
or
five
back
to
District
Seven.
It's
to
add
three
one,
five
back
to
to
frankly,
District
three
but
I'm
sure
there's
a
number
of
different
ways.
We
could
work
that
out
and
figure
that
out,
but
I
just
think
it
causes
less
hassle.
F
E
C
Chair
a
couple
things
so
when
I
spoke
last
time,
I
did
ask
that
we
look
at
the
demographics
and
then
we
haven't
yet
so
I
hope
we're
not
ending
this
meeting,
because
I
did
ask
that
we
go
through
the
numbers,
the
demographic
numbers
and
we
haven't
started
that
process.
Yet
so
I
do
want
to
just,
and
you
said
we
would,
and
then
we
didn't
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
will
and
through
the
chair.
If
I
could
ask
a
question
to
council
lebach
is
that
okay
yeah?
C
So
you
had
said
earlier:
Council
Bach
you're
on
the
record
of
saying
that
District
3
needs
to
get
more
people
of
color,
District
Four
needs
to
get
more
white,
and
when
we
look
and
I
thought
and
I
hope
we
do,
I
mean
I
am
confident.
We
will
I
should
say.
Look
at
these
demographic
numbers
here
that
the
number
is
presented
here
do
exactly
that,
maybe
even
better
than
what
we
had
imagined
and
I
know:
councilor
Worrell.
C
You
have
said
it
here
on
the
floor
and
we
have
spoken
that
you
also
wanted
to
make
sure
your
percentages
in
District,
4
weren't
hovering
around
that
six.
Seven,
that
you
know
14,
you
know
any
more
than
10
was
something
you
were
really
hoping
to
get
and
I
know
and
I
had
said
earlier.
I
had
proposed,
we
go
to
1907
if
we
wanted
to
go
west,
so
I
hope
that
we
are
going
to
go
over
these
demographics.
C
If
we
gave
back
16,
8,
9,
11
and
12
to
D3,
we
wouldn't
have
to
be
disrupting
District
2.
In
these
conversations
about
councilor
Flynn
already
giving
up
a
lot
of
his
precincts,
but
now
realizing
because
of
the
aspirations
of
taking
you
know
more
of
the
white
vote
out
of
D3,
even
though
it's
already
an
opportunity
District
in
a
minority
majority
District
that,
where
that's
what's
forcing
more
pressure
into
two
in
other
districts,
are
going
to
have
to.
C
If
we're
he
already
needed,
District
3
already
needs
to
grow
and
I
will
just
say
also
and
I
know.
We
all
know
it,
but
this
isn't
about
individuals,
it
isn't
personal
right,
it's
not
about
it.
The
relationships
once
you're
elected
into
that
District,
but
for
this
these
purposes
we
do
have
to
remember
that
we're
talking
about
numbers
so
I
hope,
like
I,
had
asked
cover
the
map.
Look
at
the
numbers.
Thank.
A
A
It
is
actually
about
the
effectiveness
of
a
community
of
color
to
have
an
increased
opportunity
to
elect
a
candidate
of
their
choice
and,
as
the
expert
said
this
morning,
depending
on
where
you
are
that
Effectiveness
could
be
35,
it
could
be
40
and
depending
on
the
community,
it
could
be
much
higher
than
that
and.
A
She
was
talking
from
a
national
perspective
and
also
a
a
lot
of
on
experience.
Thinking
about
about
what
constitutes
an
enact,
an
effective
district
and
the
consensus
was
that
redistrib,
redistributing
the
population
and
in
increasing
the
white
population,
District
4
would
actually
increase
the
efficiency
of
the
community
of
color
in
District
3
and
increase
their
opportunity.
C
A
G
G
Think
I
think
that
I
think
that
councilor
Baker's
map
in
terms
of
the
direction
of
travel
on
that
front
is
the
right
direction
of
travel.
I
think
that
the
like
I
mean
that
I
mean
that
I
think
that,
given
the
fact
that
we
that
we
are
concerned
about
the
possibility
that
we
that
the
current
D4
is
packed
and
we
want
to
strengthen
opportunity
districts,
then
yes,
I,
think
that,
like
you
know
that
that
reflects
the
numbers,
I
think
I,
don't
I,
haven't
heard
today
a
lot
of
support
for
this
map.
G
But
it's
I
think
in
that.
In
that
directional
sense,
yes,
but
but
I
had
actually
I
wanted
to
cleanser
Circle
back
on
what
counselor
Arroyo
said
not
to
reprise
our
conversation
this
morning,
but
I
think
that
you
know
it's
really
important
to
note
that
I
I
actually
think
this
is
about
the
question
of
the
impacts
on
District
three.
So
right,
I
think
that,
like
when,
when
you
switch
seven
five
back
to
District,
Two
District
three
gets
a
full
percentage
point
less
white
and
I.
G
Think
again
we're
talking
about
the
direction
of
travel
opportunity
way.
I!
Think
that's
a
real!
That's
a
it's
a
very
it's.
A
very
substantial
impact
for
a
single
Precinct
I
also
think
it's
worth
lagging
right.
I
think
that
we
are
a
num.
There
have
been
a
number
of
suggestions
that
we
are
not
pursuing,
because
people
are
worried
about
threatening
the
other
opportunity,
districts
right,
obviously
Council
or
Worrell
just
raised
the
question
of
like
maybe
15-2
flipping
that
over
you
know,
puts
the
balance
in
his
district
in
jeopardy.
G
The
question
of
how
to
solve
the
like
to
both
make
District
three
more
of
an
opportunity:
district
and
unite
the
public
housing
in
South
Boston
would
be
easily
resolved
by
either
taking
eight
five
out
of
district
7
or
13-4
out
of
District
Seven.
But
folks
don't
want
to
do
those
things
out
of
concern
for
the
total
black
population,
District
Seven,
so
I
think
we
are
thinking
about
those
things,
but
I
think
that
you
I
guess.
G
My
point
is
to
your
point
about:
what's
the
core
activity
to
me,
there's
a
lot
of
arguments
that
if
we
can't
get
both
seven
five
and
seven
six
out
that
we
should
be
splitting,
but
I
also
think
that
it
would
be
better
to
get
them
both
out.
If
it's.
If
we
only
took
seven
six
down
to
District
three,
then
there's
you
know
the
couple
of
ways
to
solve
for
that
population.
Wise
one
is,
as
mentioned,
you
could
flip
513,
which
is
Bay
Village
back
into
my
district.
G
The
reason
I
mentioned
that
is
because
the
only
neighboring
Precinct
that
I
could
still
take
without
being
over
the
population
line.
Another
alternative
would
be
actually
instead
of
switching
four
or
five
into
district.
Seven.
One
switch
is
four
three
another
one
of
the
precincts
that
councilor
Flynn
had
mentioned
before.
If
you
did
that
it's
also
the
total
black
percentage
of
counselor
for
National
Anderson's
district
is
another
point:
five
percent
more
black,
so
I'm
just
saying
I
think
there
are
a
couple
of
ways
to
solve
the
puzzle.
G
If
you,
if
you
divide
7675
and
to
me
that
would
be,
that
would
be
better
from
the
impact
on
District
3
perspective.
So
thank.
D
So
I'll
I'll
State
again
you're
still
splitting
my
community
16
9,
should
remain
with
those
higher
precincts.
If
they're
going
to
District
4
16
9
should
be
with
16
8,
16,
11,
16,
12
and
17
3.
Please
don't
divide
my
communities,
please
don't
divide
my
communities
to
speak
on
15
a
little
bit
I've
heard
from
15
for
many
years
that
they
would
like
to
either
be
unified.
D
So
the
two
precincts
go
into
one
one,
District
or
or
maybe
come
back
the
other
way
and
do
I
think
there's
10
precincts
in
there
five
and
five.
That's
just
something
I
heard
and
if
I
can
speak
through
the
chair
to
to
counselor.
D
You're
finished
with
Flynn
I'd
like
to
speak
through
the
chair
to
council
Flynn
that
I
have
an
earlier
map
that
doesn't
go
in
first
order.
Business
cut
cut
out
my
lower
my
lower
precincts.
It
retains
your
your
borders,
it
does.
It
isn't
nearly
as
destructive
as
all
these
other
other
Maps
it
gives
it
gives
District
8
bay,
village
and
I
can't
believe.
You
tried
to
cut
me
off
in
the
middle
of
my
statement.
It
just
shows
exactly
what
how
this
whole
process
has
been
totally
stacked
against
me.
A
A
Should
be
sorry,
I'm,
sorry
I
understood
when
we
started
this
session
this
afternoon,
that
people
had
time
constraints,
I,
understand
cultural
friendness
somewhere
because
and
yes,
we're
we're
going
to
end
this
session
very
soon,
Contraband,
a
counselor
friend
you
have
the
last
word
thank.
B
You,
madam
chair
and
so
I
I,
just
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
my
closing
point,
would
be
I
still
think
it's
important
that
seven,
five
and
seven
six
stay
in
in
D2
and
I
also,
you
know
I'm
willing
to
continue
to
negotiate
and
talk
and
and
listen
to
my
colleagues,
because
there's
there's
still
a
lot
of
work
that
we
that
we
have
left
to
do
and
I
want
to
continue
working
with
my
my
colleague,
especially
District
city
council
colleagues,
because
they
know
they
know
the
district
as
well
as
anybody.
B
But
some
of
the
comments
made
by
Council,
Bach,
I
think
I
think
we
it's
important
that
we
continue
talking
in
in
in
listening
to
each
other,
but
but
I
guess.
My
question
is
Council
Madam
chair.
Are
we
able
to
revisit
this
tomorrow?.
A
Morning,
I
will
I
as
a
chair.
I
will
make
a
recommendation
on
a
doc
on
a
on
a
docket
and
a
new
draft
tomorrow,
and
it
will
be
up
for
a
vote
tomorrow.
I'll
take
all
of
this
and
put,
and
we
will
present
a
docket
and
a
new
draft
for
a
vote
tomorrow.