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From YouTube: Redistricting Working Session on October 17, 2022
Description
Docket #1098 - A hearing regarding the adoption of City Council redistricting principles
A
A
Written
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
email
at
CCC,
dot
redistricting
at
boston.gov
and
will
be
made
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors.
Since
this
is
a
working
session,
there
will
be
no
public
common
period.
Today's
a
working
session
is
on
docket
number
1098
order
for
the
adoption
of
city
council
redistricting
principles,
so
it
is
Our
intention
that
we
would
bring
the
docket
1098
move
it
out
of
committee
to
and
bring
it
up
for
a
vote
on
Wednesday
this
Wednesday.
A
A
There's
also,
let's
see
docket
1098
to
order
for
adoption
of
redistricting
principles
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
August,
31st,
2022
and
sponsored
by
the
chair
and
in
this
process
we
have
held.
The
committee
has
held
a
virtual
working
sessions
by
video
conference
on
September
16th,
a
working
session
in
the
Pia
Monte
room
on
September
20th,
a
virtual
working
session
on
September
23rd
working
sessions
in
the
Piemonte
room
on
September
26th
and
27th,
a
public
hearing
on
September
29th
and
working
sessions
on
September,
30th
and
October
7th.
A
The
committee
also
held
a
meeting
to
receive
public
testimony
on
October
11th.
The
docket
was
amended
by
a
vote
of
the
council
at
his
meeting
on
Wednesday
September
28th
and
following
this
afternoon's
working
session.
It
is
the
intention
of
the
chair
to
report
this
docket
out
from
the
from
the
committee
at
the
council
meeting
on
November
on
Wednesday
October
19th.
A
A
The
intended
focus
of
this
afternoon's
working
session
is
to
reach
consensus
on
Docker
1098
in
terms
of
the
guideposts
of
the
committee,
the
committee
and
the
body
will
use
to
analyze
proposed
redistricting
map
maps.
There's
I
also
provided
I.
Think
it's
in
here
the
letter
that
we
sent
to
Corporation
Council
with
the
questions
for
outside
council
with
regard
to
voting
rights.
Questions
that
we
still
are
awaiting
some
answers
on
for
for
would
counselors
like
to
take
a
10-minute
recess
to
review
the
materials
on
your
desk.
B
A
B
A
A
B
B
B
I
I,
you
know
we
when
we
were
in
the
piamonte
room
last
and
we
had
the
map
in
front
of
us
and
the
conversation
was
starting
and
we
did
the
split
presence
which
we
had
to
work
through,
and
that
was
going
to
be
our
base
map
we
haven't
spent.
You
know,
together
as
a
council,
really
looking
at
that
base
map
and
trying
to
together
work
through.
Where
should
you
know,
precincts
be
moved
and
what
is
the
best
I.
A
D
D
So
my
concern
about
about
this
Madam
chair
the
principles
which
I
agree
with
I
agree
with
the
principles
I
I'm
concerned
that
there
are,
there
has
been
discussions
because
late
Friday
night
I
was
informed
that
there
was
a
map
already
out
there.
That
was
that
was
being
discussed
and
already
had
the
votes
to
approving
and
I
and
I'm
saying
to
myself.
How
could
a
map
be
out
there?
That's
already
approved
and
have
the
votes
if
we
haven't
even
discussed
it
so
I,
don't
know
if
that's
true
or
not
Madam,
chair
and
I.
D
Look
at
the
redistricting
principles
and
I
look
at
number
two
public
participation
to
enhance
and
expand
civic
participation,
while
strengthening
public
confidence
in
elections
and
governance,
transparency
and
redistricting
is
essential.
Deliberation
among
councilors,
as
decision
makers
with
legal
and
mapping
Consultants,
must
remain
restricted
to
public
committee
hearings
working
sessions
in
meetings
duly
noticed
pursuant
to
open
meeting
laws
now
I
bring
that
up.
D
A
D
It
was
apparently
submitted
on
Friday
afternoon
in
when
I
got
a
call
Friday
night
that
they
already
had
the
votes
to
pass
it
now.
This
to
me
would
seem
to
be
in
violation
of
transparency,
related
issues
in
open
meeting
laws
and
I
want
to
know
or
ask
respectfully
Madam
chair.
If
that's
the
case,
if
our
colleagues
were
working
behind
the
scenes
out
of
public
out
of
public
View,
and
if
so,
is
that
a
violation
of
open
meetings,
open
meeting
laws,
I.
D
A
D
A
D
A
bit
of
Advocates
have
a
map
and
discuss
it
with
city
council
colleagues
outside
of
the
building,
and
then
they
are
talking
about
what's
good
and
what's
not
good
about
it
and
what
they
support
it.
In
City
councilors
tell
these
Advocates
that
there's
seven
votes
to
me:
that's
a
violation
of
open
meeting
law.
Well,.
A
D
Well,
if,
if
that's
the
case
and
and
I
need
to
need
it
to
bring
it
to
the
public
because
I'm
concerned
about
that,
the
you
know,
if
we're
going
to
be
transparent,
let's
be
transparent,
the
entire
time,
not
just
when
it
when
it
when
it
helps
us
or
it
hurts
us.
Let's
support
transparency,
always
but
transparency
and
redistrict
is
essential
to
deliberation
among
counselors,
as
decision
makers
or
with
legal
and
mapping.
Consultants
must
be
made
must
remain
restricted
to
public
committee
hearings,
working
sessions
in
meetings
posted
on
the
open
meeting
law.
A
D
That's
what
that's
what
our
colleagues
are
saying,
privately,
that
the
votes
are
already
there
to
support
it
in?
How
could
How
could
a
map
that
hasn't
even
been
before
the
public
already
have
the
votes
to
pass
something
with
the
most
liberal
and
Progressive
City
and
and
we're
not
being
transparent,
we're
only
being
transparent
when
it's
convenient
for
us
to
be
transparent?.
D
I
re
I
respect
this
body,
but
I'm
disappointed
in
this
body,
because
our
colleagues
are
working
behind
the
scenes
and
they
have
the
necessary
votes
to
pass
to
get
to
get
a
map
passed
and
the
reason
I'm
discouraged,
not
not
because
of
me
personally
I
re
I
re
represent
the
largest
number
of
residents
living
in
public
housing
of
any
District
City
councilor
and
I'm,
proud
of
that
I.
Take
that
personal
I
take
the
relationship
I
have
with
them
personally
I
take
the
relationship
I
have
with
the
Asian
Community
personally
I.
Think
everybody
knows
that.
D
That's
why
I
have
two
women
on
my
staff
that
speak
Spanish
fluently
because
I
interact
with
residents
of
public
housing
all
day
long,
whether
they're
documented
they're,
legal
or
they're
undocumented.
It
doesn't
matter
to
me
the
same
with
the
Asian
Community
I
have
the
most
diverse
staff
of
any
districts
of
any
City
councilor
here
I
have
five
women
of
color
and
the
immigrants.
My
point
is
I.
Do
a
lot
of
work
in
support
of
immigrant
rights
in
public
housing.
D
We
need
to
have
tough
conversations
in
this
in
this
chamber,
but
we
can't
we
can't
take
it
out
on
immigrants
in
my
district,
we
can't
take
it
out
on
public
housing
residents
in
my
district
there's
only
a
couple
things
I
take
personally
in
the
on
the
city
council:
it's
the
support
for
the
Asian
community
and
the
support
for
residents
of
public
housing
and
when
people
are
trying
to
dismantle
my
district
and
eliminate
public
housing
out
of
my
district
I.
Take
that
personally.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'm,
a
little
bit
confused
here.
We've
we're
we're
voting
on
redistricting
principles
to
Quorum
public
participation,
legal
review,
consideration
proposals,
but
then,
if
you
look
at
what
the
feds
are
telling
us,
the
four
principles
are
compactness
preservation
of
counties
and
other
political
subdivisions,
preservation
of
communities
of
interests
and
preservation
of
cause
of
Prior
districts,
I'm,
not
sure
why
we
need
to
vote.
Why?
First
of
all,
this
whole
meeting
is
about
redistricting
principles,
decorum
we're
all
elected.
E
We
should
know
what
decorum
is
public
participation,
legal
review
I'm
on
board
with
all
these
good,
but
not
not
really,
here,
not
not
really
right
now,
I
I
think
our
core
principles
are
what
the
feds
are
telling
us
to
do
with
that
being
said
to
to
piggyback
on
on
to
what
Council
Flynn
was
saying,
we
have
an
advocate
map
that
was
filed
by
all
Advocates,
not
by
City
councils.
This
is
our
job.
E
We
all
went
to
a
meeting
the
other
night
that
was
90
paid
Advocates
to
be
there
they're
paid
to
do
this
they're,
not
necessarily
Community
people
and
coming
out
of
that
map.
I'm,
a
little
disappointed
that
you
filed
it
with
the
previous
chair
who's,
not
here
who
already
has
a
map
that
he
filed.
You
already
had
a
map
that
that
was
filed
at
what
point
do
we
start
throwing
a
map
on
a
screen
and
moving
precincts
around?
We
haven't
done
that,
yet
we
did
that
for
probably
20
meetings.
E
10
years
ago,
I
was
the
only
one
on
the
bloody
now
that
was
hit
10
years
ago
and
from
the
beginning
there
was
a
charge
from
the
the
chair.
This
is
what's
going
on.
This
is
what
we
need
to
do.
We
wanted
to
make
another
minority
majority
District,
which
we
did
in
District
Five
and
we
needed
to
grow
in
the
north,
shed
in
the
South
and
grow
in
the
north.
There
was
a
there
was
a
particular
charge
there.
E
This
is
like
a
rodless
ship
that
we
have
going
on
here
and
it's
all
just
about
The
Advocates
we're
in
this
room
here
doing
working
sessions
not
sitting
around
a
table
with
a
map,
so
we
can
film
it
nobody
in
the
stands
when
we
made
people
participate.
Last
time
we
had
the
curly
room,
packed
stuffed
with
people,
people
from
Mattapan
people
from
South
Boston
people
from
Dorchester
Charlestown
all
packed
in
well.
He
works
here.
There's
one
yeah.
E
E
E
How
am
I
supposed
to
take
that?
That's
my
neighborhood,
my
communities
they're
talking
about
and
then
their
Advocate
map
gets.
There
takes
a
sword
to
my
district,
not
to
mention
what
it
does
to
South
Boston,
because
gentleman
that
just
left
here
there's
nobody
in
the
city,
but
it's
done
more
for
public
housing
than
his
father,
his
father.
That's
why
the
public
housing
is
important
to
him.
This
map
that
you
filed
Madam
and
the
former
chair
filed
cuts
the
D
Street
projects
in
half
Latino
Community
katsian
Lynch
apartments
in
half,
decimate
South,
Boston,
decimates
Dorchester.
E
So,
if
we're
in
compliance,
in
my
opinion,
we're
in
compliance
with
the
Voting
Rights
Act
of
1965
now
otherwise
it'd
be
something
here
from
the
feds
or
from
the
state
telling
us
what
we
should
be
doing.
What
we
should
be
looking
at
our
charge
is:
let's
get
the
populations
right,
get
the
populations
right
without
hurting
communities.
E
I
think
we
flopped
that
here
I
think
we're
looking
to
hurt
communities
can't
prove
it
can't
can't
put
my
finger
on
it.
That's
what
it
feels
like
feels
like
there's
communities
that
are
on
the
table
here
that
are
being
eaten
up
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
right,
I,
don't
think
it's
right,
especially
when
we
hear
comments
like
that.
Community
down
there
doesn't
matter
they're
white
or
my
good
colleague
from
District
8
standing
up
here,
Sandy.
E
E
I
believe
you're
hurting
communities,
mind
being
one
his
being
one
and
well,
you
don't
have
to
hurt
them,
and
we
have
a
bunch
of
people
here
that
whose
districts
don't
even
change
but
they're,
going
to
take
a
vote
to
hurt
my
neighborhood
and
they're
going
to
take
a
vote
to
hurt
Eddie's,
neighborhood
and
I.
Think
it
deluding
a
black
voice
in
District
Four.
E
You
haven't
done
the
analysis
nobody's
done.
The
analysis.
I
know
that
the
people
that
were
running
the
meeting
you
know
they
have
not
done
the
voting
analysis
of
what
happens
in
District
Four.
With
these
changes,
who's
done
the
analysis
who
says
it's
the
right
move
for
district
four
I
think
we
got
problems
and
and
and
we're
talking
about
the
Quorum
public
participation
legal
review
here
today.
So
thank
you
enjoyed
my
time
on
the
floor.
Thank.
F
F
I
I
want
to
say
a
few
things
as
we
continue
to
navigate
this
conversation
is
first
I.
Think
it's
really
important
for
us
to
recognize
that
it
is
not
about
personal
right.
These
seats
do
not
belong
to
us.
We
have
to
run
every
two
years
to
get
elected,
so
it's
not
a
personal
attack
on
Council,
Royale
or
counselor.
You
know
Flynn
or
or
Baker
whatever
the
case
looks
like
at
the
end
of
the
day.
F
This
is
about
a
process
that
we
go
through
every
10
years
and
no
seat
should
be
determined
based
on
a
personal
attack
here.
So
I
just
want
to
be
really
clear
about
what
this
exercise
is
all
about,
so
that
we
don't
lose
sight
of
that
guiding
principle
and
then
the
second
piece
that
I
want
to
read
into
the
record,
as
counselor
Flynn
talked
about
the
notion
that
he
heard
through
the
grapevine
this.
F
We
were
there
to
listen
and
my
response
to
the
individual.
That
called
me
was
it's
not
about
for
me.
It's
never
been
about
politics.
I
know
everybody
thinks
here
that
we're
all
politicians,
but
we're
more
than
that.
We're
public
servants-
and
you
know
whatever
decisions
we
make-
are
going
to
impact
10
years,
and
this
can't
be
about
a
fight.
We
really
need
to
just
ground
ourselves
in
what
the
work
is
and
keep
ourselves
focused
on
that
work,
and
when
you
hear
language
that
is
accusatory
of
you.
F
F
G
You,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
your
decorum
and
your
grace
as
the
temperature
rises,
as
we
get
closer
to
an
official
date
for
a
vote
on
these
maps
and
I
just
want
to
address
some
of
the
things
I've
heard
about
these
Maps
and
about
sort
of
the
watering
down
of
South
Boston
or
above
these
housing
projects
and
and
to
be
clear.
There
were
already
three
Maps
before
this
body.
One
was
the
Braden
morel
map.
G
The
other
map
was
the
Arroyo
Fernandez
Anderson
map,
and
the
other
map
was
the
Murphy
map
on
the
Murphy
map
and
on
the
Liz
Brayden
Brian
warrell
map.
Only
one
other
counselor
signed
on
to
those
maps
that
was
counselor
Flynn
in
both
of
those
instances
on
the
Aaron
Murphy
map
7-7,
which
is
where
the
McCormick
it's
currently
in
District.
Three,
it's
where
the
housing
projects
are
it's
where
mokley
Park
is
that
was
maintained
in
District
three,
but
additionally,
seven
five
and
seven
six,
which
are
both
in
South
Boston.
G
Both
have
housing
projects
were
put
into
District
three,
no
different
than
the
chair
in
my
map.
Now
he
signed
on
to
that
on
Liz
Brayden
Brian
warrell
map
7-6
was
added
out,
separated
out
from
South
Boston,
again
housing
projects
and
put
into
District
three.
There
was
no
complaint
there
because
he
signed
on
to
that
map.
The
only
map
that
actually
put
seven
seven
back
into
South
Boston
and
made
South
Boston
Hall
was
the
royal
Fernandez
Anderson
map.
G
G
Don't
fully
understand
today.
What
the
major
differences
are
that
he
could
sign
on
to
two
maps
that
do
that
and
then
today
say
it's
a
bridge
too
far.
That
doesn't
make
a
whole
lot
of
sense.
I
think
the
other
thing
that
I
just
want
to
Center
is
that
for
me
this
has
always
been
about
the
Voting
Rights
Act
and
about
our
charge
and
our
mandate
to
create
opportunity
districts.
G
G
Doing
that
and
I
think
part
of
the
reality
is,
is
that
these
conversations
about
maps
have
been
ongoing
in
community
in
these
hearings,
I
think
we've
had
very
Frank
conversations
about
what
we
like
and
what
we
don't
like
about.
Every
map
that
has
come
before
this
body.
At
this
point,
I've
certainly
I've,
certainly
heard
a
few
opinions
on
the
map
that
I
presented
and
I
think
that
this
map
does
take
into
account
a
lot
of
that.
G
Obviously,
people
have
opinions
and
they're
going
to
share
them,
but
I
I
do
think
that
it's
only
fair
to
note
that
if
one
of
the
critiques
is
what
this
does
to
South
Boston,
only
one
map
unified
all
of
South
Boston
and
it
did
not
receive
the
support
of
either
of
the
residents
who
currently
live
in
South
Boston.
Nor
did
those
things
that
we
aim
to
do
when
that
map
receive
any
kind
of
conversation
on
this
floor.
G
To
the
contrary,
the
one
raising
this
issue
now
was
very
clear
that
what
they
actually
wanted
to
see
was
more
of
the
South
End
into
their
district
and
to
sort
of
make
sure
that
what
was
happening
with
the
Chinese
community
and
the
communities
of
interest
in
that
District
were
heard.
And
that's
what
this
map
does
and
so
I
think
you
know
to
do
one.
Something
has
to
happen
to
the
other.
G
That's
always
been
clear
and
I
think
that's
what
we
have
here,
but
I
think
to
just
state
that
this
is
somehow
an
attack
on
a
district
or
a
watering
down
of
a
district
when
their
name
is
on
two
maps
that
do
something
very
similar
to
South.
Boston
is
interesting,
so
I'll
just
put
that
there,
since
we're
in
in
this
in
this
chamber
just
raising
these
charges.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
appreciate
your
time
and
attention,
along
with
the
vice
chair,
I'll,
obviously
just
caution,
my
colleagues
and
just
take
a
look
at
what's
happening
out
in
Los
Angeles
in
terms
of
their
redistricting
process
and
how
they
treated
it,
and
you
know
how
not
at
least
working
collaboratively
together
and
focusing
in
on
what's
important
and
what's
not
important
and
primarily,
as
it
comes
to
their
maps,
and
so
I
will
say
through
the
chance
of
the
previous
speaker.
Signing
on
to
something
is
really
signing
on.
H
I
can't
speak
for
council
president
Flynn,
but
when
you
sign
on
to
something
you're
signing
on
in
this
body,
you're
signing
on
to
have
a
hearing
you're,
not
necessarily
endorsing
something.
But
you
are
signaling,
hey
interesting
concept.
Interesting
idea,
please
add
my
name.
I
would
like
to
have
a
hearing.
I
would
like
to
have
a
discussion
about
that.
H
So
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
practice
of
this
body
has
been
when
you
sign
on
to
something
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
you're
a
yes
vote
for
it,
but
that
you
want
to
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
it.
You
want
to
have
a
hearing.
I
will
also
now
reiterate
things
that
I've
said
with
the
previous
Maps
I've
said
it
twice.
Madam
chair.
H
There
are
parts
of
those
maps
that
I
like,
and
there
are
pots
that
I,
don't
like
I'm
asking
and
I'll
ask
now
again
for
the
third
time
that
consideration
be
giving
to
reducing
the
number
of
precincts
that
move
in
and
out
of
districts
and
I
think
if
we
can
get
micro
with
each
other.
We
have
the
ability
to
to
build
some
consensus.
One
map
has
25
precincts
moving
in
and
out
of
districts.
Another
map
has
18..
H
Another
map
has
17
one,
that's
not
in
front
of
us,
but
that
has
been
discussed
moves
10
in
and
out
again
that's
the
charge
to
the
previous
speaker.
There
are
parts
of
his
map
that
I,
like
and
I
know
that
he
put
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
into
it.
There
are
also
pots
that
I
don't
like.
If
he's
able
to
sharpen
that
pencil
and
reduce
the
number
of
precincts
that
move
in
and
out
of
districts.
H
C
H
I,
just
think
that
we
have
an
opportunity
here
to
again
sharpen
our
Focus
get
micro
with
one
another
and
let's
try
to
and
I
have
experience,
because
this
isn't
my
first
rodeo
with
redistricting
the
City
of
Austin
and
at
what
has
worked
in
the
past,
as
colleagues
have
had
very
Frank
conversations
with
one
another
and
we've
gotten
micro
and
when
you
start
to
eliminate
moving
precincts
in
and
out
of
districts,
you're
more
apt
to
Garner
more
support
for
that
particular
map.
So
again,
that's
my
charge.
H
If
anyone
accepts
the
offer
to
go
from
25
precincts
moving
and
out,
is
there
his
does?
He
have
the
ability
through
the
chair?
Does
he
have
the
ability
to
to
reduce
that
to
your
Madam
chair
and
to
the
vice
chairs
map
I,
think
you
guys
are
maybe
17
or
18..
So
my
colleague
at
large
same
thing,
17
or
18.
into
one
that
I
don't
have
not
has
been
formally
filed,
there's
a
tent.
Do
we
have
the
ability
to
do
that?
H
That's
what
I'm
looking
for
I'm,
looking
for
a
spirit
of
cooperation,
I'm
looking
for
us
to
be
working
closer
together
into
having
very
Frank
and
very
micro
conversations
with
our
district
colleagues
as
an
at
large
colleague,
I
represent
the
entire
city.
That's
all
22
awards,
no
matter
which
way
the
lines
are
drawn
up,
but
I
just
think
in
the
spirit
of
trying
to
move
forward.
H
We
collectively
need
to
work
together
and
if
there
are
maps
here
that
can
reduce
certain
precincts
from
moving
in
and
out,
I
think
that
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
start
to
you
know
to
to
increase
I
think
or
at
least
to
have
our
dialogue,
be
more
Forward
Thinking
in
terms
of
getting
to
an
end
result.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
I
But
when
it
comes
to
you
know,
redistricting.
It
is
important
that
we
maintain
the
principles
of
the
Voting
Rights
Act
and
to
be
clear
that
the
council
braid
in
in
the
map
that
I
filed
together.
It's
the
only
map
that
has
four
districts
District
three
four
five
and
seven
with
people
of
color
at
a
60
plus
voting
age
population.
It's
the
only
map,
I
have
seen
that
has
achieved
that,
and
my
goal
has
always
been.
You
know,
to
preserve
historical
districts
of
color,
maintain
opportunity,
districts
and
also
grow
in
those
opportunity.
I
This
is
an
opportunity
that
we
could
not
fall
short
of
those
goals
by
drawing
those
lines
to
increase
and
attain
maximum
representation
and
I'm
putting
that
to
all
of
our
candidates
here.
So
we
could
put
you
know,
constituents
in
a
position
to
elect
candidates
of
their
choice
and,
as
I
said
before,
the
councilor
Braden
I'm
in
world
map
is
the
only
map
that
has
60
percent
voting
age
population,
people
of
color
out
of
all
the
maps
I've
seen
and
that's
even
Community,
Advocates
Maps.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
D
D
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
you,
Council
Braden,
Council
and
vice
Gilmore,
as
I
have
consistently
mentioned
in
these
working
sessions.
One
of
my
main
priorities
is
to
keep
South
Boston
as
enabled
together
in
District
2,
so
that
this
community
can't
continue
to
be
cohesive
and
not
to
not
be
divided
into
different
districts,
as
has
been
proposed.
D
D
This
would
negatively
impact
the
neighbors
communities
of
color
seniors
veterans,
persons
with
disabilities
who
live
in
these
Housing
Development
developments
I'm
strongly
opposed
to
these
proposed
Maps
dividing
South
Boston
into
two
city
council
districts,
especially
when
it
divides
two
housing.
Developments,
as
I
already
focused
into
separate
districts,
would
negatively
impact
the
ability
for
our
residents
to
act
together
and
advocate
for
the
common
interest.
D
Moreover,
one
of
the
main
principles
we
have
discussed
throughout
this
process
is
the
preservation
of
core
principles:
core
districts,
and
these
Maps
violate
this
principle.
When
they
split
South
Boston,
in
addition,
preservation
of
communities
of
interest
is
also
a
guiding
principle
of
redistricting
splitting
two
public
housing
developments
that
are
right
across
the
street
from
each
other
that
are
next
to
each
other
unconscionable
unconscionable.
D
Many
residents
and
Civic
leaders
are
alarmed
by
these
proposals
dividing
the
South
Boston
community
on
racial
lines,
especially
in
our
public
housing
developments,
unconscionable
Phyllis,
Corbett
who's,
the
president
of
the
Ian
Lynch
Homes
at
Old
Colony
task
force,
as
well
as
the
Massachusetts
Union
of
public
housing.
Tenants
is
disappointed.
D
It's
it's
splitting
South
Boston
and
dividing
the
in
the
Boston
Housing
authority
authority
and
public
housing
residents
with
most
of
these
residents
falling
under
the
poverty
line
separating
them
straight
down.
The
middle
of
one
of
these
developments
is
counterproductive.
On
many
fronts.
Most
of
my
residents
in
public
housing
speak
Spanish.
That's
why
I
have
two
women
of
color
that
are
immigrants
that
are
on
my
staff
so
that
they
can
communicate
effectively
with
my
tenants
we
work
closely
with
tenants
in
the
South
End
as
well.
D
D
Again,
that's
why
I
hired
the
most
diverse
staff
on
the
city
council
that
can
speak
Spanish
that
can
speak
Cantonese
that
can
speak
Mandarin
and
we
represent
our
districts.
Whether
they're
legal
or
undocumented,
that
doesn't
make
a
difference
to
me
during
the
pandemic.
That's
all
I
did
was
support
immigrants
with
food
access
and
other
issues,
so
dividing
South
Boston,
especially
on
race
lines,
unconscionable
unconscionable.
D
D
These
residents
of
African-American
they're
latinx
and
some
and
some
of
them
are
white,
but
about
I
would
say
about
90
percent
of
these
developments.
Communities
of
color
so
I'm
disappointed
in
all
of
my
colleagues
that
are
supporting
any
plan
to
divide
South
Boston
along
racial
lines.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
and
I
stepped
out
of
the
meeting,
because
I
had
a
meeting
with
the
South
End
Library
I,
don't
know
if
someone
questioned
my
Integrity,
why
I
was
gone.
That's
why
I
wanted
to
come
back
and
finish
my
statement.
B
Chair
a
couple
things
I
did
want
to
reiterate
what
council
of
Flaherty
said
before
me,
but
that
signing
on
to
anything
that
comes
before
the
council
at
Council
meetings
does
not
mean
that
we're
in
favor
of
it
I've
signed
on
to
many
dockets.
That
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
was
supporting
my
colleagues
to
bring
it
to
the
floor,
but
did
not
then
during
working
sessions
or
hearings,
and
when
it
came
to
a
vote,
maybe
never
had
any
intention
of
voting
yes
or
no
to
it.
B
We
have
to
change
anything.
But
that
we
do
have
to
get
the
numbers
right
in
my
map
and
when
you
said
to
please
file
it
I
brought
it
two-way
working
session
to
work
on
it
and
to
have
it
in
front
of
us
and
my
numbers
as
if
any
of
you
looked
at.
It
were
near
perfect
to
that
75
percent
goal
75
000
goal.
B
B
B
Now
we
have
what
six
seven
eight
I
mean
we're
going
to
continue
to
get
maps
submitted
if
we
don't
start
showing
ourselves
and
the
public
that
we're
willing
to
sit
down
and
actually
work
on
a
map
to
see
where
are
we
moving
things?
Are
we
getting
in
that
right
direction
to
come
to
some
conclusion?
Thank
you.
E
Have
the
floor.
Thank
you,
madam
Chia,
from
the
beginning
or
when
this
first
started,
I
heard
two
things
consistently.
They
were
eight
one
and
nine
one
need
to
remain
together
because
of
a
Chinese,
a
Chinese
language
and
because
of
the
Latino
community
and
those
two
those
two
developments.
They
wanted
to
stay
with,
District
2,
which
is
which
is
a
South
Boston
District
and
just
to
speak
on
it.
Briefly.
It's
been
through
been
through
a
little
bit
so
Ann
Lynch,
Holmes
I,
highly,
probably
a
high
concentration
of
Spanish
speakers.
E
In
there
same
with
West
Broadway,
we
used
to
call
it
D
streams,
but
so,
and
I
also
heard
Vietnamese
Community
continuing
to
remain
together.
First,
that
was
just
16-1.
Then
it
became
16-3
I
agree
with
16-3
it.
It
completes
Mass
Avenue,
which
was
always
my
historic
boundary
for
40
years,
historic
boundary,
Dot
abdia
and
that's
one
issue
that
I
have
with
the
the
Braden
morale
map
is.
Is
it's
going
into
my
communities
that
have
Dorchester
Ave
as
the
as
their
boundary
in
Dorchester?
E
Ave
should
remain
as
the
spying
down
District
three,
because
his
commonality
in
in
a
business
district?
It's
a
main.
It
was
one
of
the
trolley
lines
you
know,
so
it's
one
of
the
main
drags
in
Boston.
It
was
one
of
the
first
streets
that
went
from
North
North
to
South.
That
Vietnamese
Community
remain
together.
Allows
me
to
do
do
that.
E
I
do
have
a
problem
and
I
do
look
at
Neponset
Saint,
Anne,
Saint
Brendan's
as
real
communities.
People
want
to
talk,
but
we
don't.
We
don't
talk
about
parishes
anymore,
there's
a
whole
lot
of
people
that
still
do
and
the
reality
is
those
Villages,
those
Villages.
They
all
grew
up
around
parishes.
There's
one
in
Ashmont
I
think
it's
a
Unitarian
Church
and
then
up
and
up-
and
if
you
go
up
into
Bowdoin
Street
you
have
the
First
Parish
Church,
literally
you
can
see.
Saint
Pete
is
from.
There
grew
up
around
those
parishes.
E
Those
are
historic
boundaries
and
I.
Think
from
that
meeting
the
other
night,
where
I
saw
them
point
at
my
precincts
and
talk
about
people
like
their
widgets
and
not
actual
people,
we're
dealing
with
them
everywhere
you
go
here,
which
is
why
try
and
begging
you.
This
map
does
10
changes.
This
map
re
respects
historical,
historical
boundaries.
This
map
doesn't
get
us
into
trouble
because
there
aren't
communities
of
interest
that
we're
going
in
and
either
breaking
up
or
taking
the
whole
community.
E
So
they
listened
when
half
of
Neponset
was
cut
up
caught
up
and
brought
into
district
four,
but
then
what
they
did
was
take
all
in
the
pawns
at
Saint,
Anne's
and
Saint
Brendan's
and
put
it
into
District
Four
I.
Think
if
you're
making
a
move
like
that,
somebody
ought
to
do
the
voter
voter
analysis
and
see
if
we
end
up
with
the
with
the
with
a
male
black
voice
after
next
after
that
next
race.
E
What's
the
analysis
on
it,
I
I
think
that
should
be
really
looked
at
before
we
sat
looking
at
changing
Brian's
District
so
drastically
changing
my
district
so
drastically
changing
any
District,
Eddie's,
District,
so
drastic
and
again
to
my
colleagues
who's
who's,
whose
districts
don't
change
at
all.
If
one
of
your
colleagues
is
saying
to
you-
and
it
may
just
be
our
opinions,
this
harms
my
communities.
Why
are
our
district
council
is
going
to
say
I'm
going
to
vote
for
it
anyway?
E
I'm
saying
Eddie's,
saying
I,
don't
know
where
Brian
is
definitely
harming
our
communities
opinion,
whatever
it's
harming
my
community
in
my
opinion
and
I
represent
them.
It's
not
about
me.
It's
not
about
me.
I've
been
here
10
years,
11
I'm
on
my
11
I'm
in
my
11th
year.
How
much
longer
am
I
going
to
be
here?
E
I,
don't
know,
but
it's
harming
my
communities,
communities
that
have
been
contiguous
they've
had
that
that
that
that
that
ability
to
advocate
for
themselves
and
I
would
and
I
would
say
the
Vietnamese
Community
being
attached
on
to
the
Catholic
Community
at
the
South
West
South
East
part
of
my
district.
They
have
commonality,
they
want.
They
want
Safe
Streets,
they
want
their
businesses
to
be
to
be.
E
They
want
their
businesses
to
be
able
to
function
and
not
have
to
worry
about
things
that
don't
make
for
a
good
business
environment
and
I
and
I
would
argue
that
commonality
with
the
Vietnamese
Community
with
the
same
friend
in
Saint
Anne's
community,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
Adam
Madam,
Chia
I
know
it's
a
difficult
role
that
that
that
has
been
tossed
you
away
I'm
trying
to
help
you
10
moves
there.
E
We
may
have
political
aspirations
and
that's
what
these
all
that
you're
hearing
political
aspirations,
it
doesn't
say
in
the
Voting
Rights
Act
that
these
political
aspirations
have
happened.
I,
don't
see
it
any
place
again.
Not
a
lawyer
could
be
wrong,
but
I
think
we're
playing
with
fire
right
here.
I
think
that's
the
map
right
there.
That's
the
safest
map
that
keeps
communities
together.
E
E
I
know
the
reason
why
I
got
it
I
just
got
it
I
have
it
now,
I
think
there's
commonality
when
it
comes
to
in
terms
of
where
the
development's
coming
in
my
community,
where
the,
where
the
talks
of
resiliency
in
my
community,
it's
right
there
at
Mary,
Ellen,
McCormick
it
wraps
into
UMass
and
that
whole
development
over
there,
which
wraps
into
the
globe
which
wraps
into
Morrissey
Boulevard
a
transportation,
Corridor
I
have
a
transportation
corridor
and
I'm
trying
to
work
on
that
for
the
future.
Give
that
to
the
next
person
here.
E
F
Thank
you,
Shane,
okay,
so
I
just
have
to
name
a
few
things
that
my
previous
colleague
just
spoke
on.
That
made
me
feel
a
little
bit
uncomfortable.
This
whole
notion
around
the
Vietnamese
Community
being
more
in
line
with
the
communities
of
interest
that
you
have
been
advocating
for
I,
just
want
to
name
that
and
I'm
not
sure,
if
that's
the
intention
of
it,
but
it
just
feels
a
little
bit.
You
know
with
you're
saying
that
they
want
more
safe
and
the
dynamic
it
just
it
just
I.
F
I
just
wanted
to
name
that,
because
there
are
people,
I'm
naming
the
behavior
that
is
happening
in
this
chamber,
and
it's
not
just
the
present
colleague
who
has
spoken.
It's
just
overall,
the
tone
of
the
environment
in
this
space
right.
So
when
folks,
who
are
advocating
on
behalf
of
certain
districts,
there
is
a
level
of
of
a
tone
that
we
need
just
to
be
mindful
of,
as
we
continue
to
navigate
so
I
just
want
to
name
it.
It's
not
one
particular
person,
it's
just
overall
in
general.
F
F
But
if
we
are
going
to
continue
to
bring
it
back
to
the
personal,
then
we're
not
gonna
move
in
the
direction
that
we
need
to
all
go
into
because
everybody's
thinking
about
their
own
seat
and
because
you
know
and
I
really
do
respect
and
admire
counselor
Flynn's
passion
for
the
Immigrant
Community,
but
that
passion
and
commitment
to
the
Immigrant
Community
should
continue
to
be
no
matter.
What
see
he
happens
to
be
representing
at
the
time.
So
I
just
think.
E
Free
as
a
opportunity
opportunity,
District
now
I
would
I
would
call
it
also
a
coalition
District
you're,
not
getting
elected
there
unless
you
have
a
coalition
of
people,
I
think
all
of
that
district
for
the
most
part,
A
Coalition
districts
and
the
way
we're
talking
about
people
is
about
we're.
Making
people
sound
like
again,
not
to
reuse
it.
Widgets
Brian
Brian
needs
a
coalition
and
his
he's
he's
mostly
black,
but
the
black
population
I,
don't
think
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
they're,
not
homogeneous
they're,
they're
voting
differently
and
they're
thinking
differently.
E
A
J
J
This
has
obviously
been
an
eye-opening
experience
for
all
of
us
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you,
and
the
vice
chair
for
your
leadership
and
I
know
that
my
district
is
On
The
Fringe.
So
it's
not
lost
on
me
that
I
bear
little
brunt
of
any
changes
and
what
I
have
learned
through
this
process
with
the
varying
degrees
of
changes
here
and
there
that
obviously
no
one
is,
is
going
to
be
100
happy
I
mean
even
in
my
district
I
would
like
to
take
on
certain
precincts
due
to
the
geography
but
I.
J
Think
that's
why
the
word
of
the
day
here
is
compromise.
I'm
just
going
to
underscore
that-
and
it's
hard
not
to
take
things
personally,
but
we
all
need
to
understand
that
there
will
be
a
give
and
take
and
that
this
is
bigger
than
all
of
us
right
now
on
the
floor
and
I'm
here,
to
largely
listen
to
my
colleagues
right
I'm,
taking
it
very
seriously
and
also
reiterate
that
we
have
a
duty
to
prioritize
the
Voting
Rights
Act
and
to
largely
push
for
opportunity.
Districts
and
just
in
terms
of
transparency.
J
There
has
been
talk
about
conversations
between
colleagues
and
a
recent
map.
I
will
say
that
I
have
not
seen
any
map
only
what
was
filed
today
through
the
council
when
it
came
through
all
of
our
inboxes,
so
I
feel
like
I
needed
to
put
that
out
there
and
I
think
that
I
would
like
to
see
this
map
visualized
and
you
know,
have
a
conversations
on
it
so
that
the
public
can
see
it.
That's
why
I
wanted
to
ask
a
clarifying
question
about
timeline
and
apologies
for
being
late
if
I
miss
this.
A
It
as
I
said
right
from
the
very
beginning
of
taking
the
chair.
We
do
have
a
very
constrained
timeline,
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
vote
on
the
the
principles,
the
document
that
we
set
out
earlier
on
just
vote
on
the
principles
this
week
and
and
pass
that
and
then
that
we
would
have
a
working
session
again
on
Friday
and
possibly
Monday
or
Tuesday
next
week.
I
don't
know
what's
on
this
calendar,
but
that
we
would
continue
to
work
and
and
have
a
map
for
a
final
vote.
A
J
Been
given
and
apologies,
if
again,
I
missed
this,
but
do
we
get
the
answers
from
this
October
3rd
letter
we're
still
waiting
for
we're
waiting
for
them?
Okay,
okay!
Well,
thank
you
and
I
just
wanted
to
again
say
that
I'm
listening.
If,
for
example,
councilor
Flynn
mentioned
that
South,
Boston
and
action
is
concerned
about
this,
I
want
to
hear
from
them,
so
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
there's
additional
working
sessions.
J
A
There
so
thank
you,
thank
you,
councilada,
and
you
know
this
is
an
emotional
process.
The
the
what
we
produce
in
this
process
will
will
be
the
the
district
map
for
the
next
10
years
and
there's
a
huge
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
we
do
preserve
or
have
four
opportunity
districts
to.
We
have
two
black
districts,
but
two
opportunity:
districts
in
District,
three
and
District
District
district
five.
So.
A
E
A
A
The
other
issue,
the
other,
the
other
incredible
challenge
that
we
have
in
this
process
is
that
District
2
has
grown
exponentially
in
the
last
10
years
right
and
it
has
13
over
13
000
too
many
residents
right
now.
Right
and
the
only
places
they
can
go
are
into
district
one
District,
eight
there's
three
in
District
Seven.
A
E
E
so
and,
and
that
doesn't
that
doesn't
harm
and
again
District
three
doesn't
in
the
in
the
in
the
eyes
of
the
people
that
were
here
that
that
are
in
their
community
that
that
are
in
116
and
different
Civic
groups.
They
they
act
as
a
cohesive
unit,
we're
close
to
65
percent.
This
map
right
here
does
not
harm
districts
where
he
enhances
District.
Three
we're
picking
up
all
that
Vietnamese
along
along
the
Ave.
E
It
doesn't
harm
District
three
by
splitting
the
housing
developments
up
into
two
separate
I
mean
so
the
only
challenge
I
heard
was
was
81916
together
in
Vietnamese
Community
81916
together.
If
we're
cutting
up
the
D
Street
projects
and
the
old
Harbor
projects,
we're
weakening
that
Latino
voice.
This
map
right
here
does
not
do
that.
These.
E
A
E
So
you're
using
packing
there
that's
an
existing
condition.
That's
what
has
happened.
Naturally,
I
would
say
if
we
take
five
precincts
that
are
heavy
white
that
can
that
can
realistically
affect
that
next
election
I
would
say
we're
packing
in
the
opposite
way.
If,
with
this
NAACP
map,
that's
that's
what
I
would
say
existing
condition
here,
no
one's
here,
the
feds,
the
state
they're,
not
here
saying
District
4
is
heavy
black
and
again
we
talked
about
the
black
population,
they're,
not
homogeneous
they're.
E
E
From
where,
where
did
it
come
from
who's
telling
us
that
we
need
to
get
above
to
get
to
12
or
13
in
in
in
in,
in
that
exercise
of
getting
to
a
few
percentage
points?
One
Way,
Or,
Another
We're,
harming
neighborhoods
we're
harming
neighborhoods.
People
are
not
widgets
people
of
people
they
live.
They
live
in
those
communities,
they
choose
those
communities
to
live
in.
A
E
E
The
number
one
consideration
is:
we
should
try
our
damnedest
to
not
harm
communities
and
I
think
that
these
Maps
here
are
harming
communities
by
chasing
artificial
numbers.
65
is
what
you
think,
what
you
think
65
I
need
to
get
District
3
to
65..
65
is
an
opportunity.
If
we
left
District
five
district,
three
alone,
I
would
bet
I
would
bet
in
two
years.
E
I'm
two
more
points,
two
more
points,
two
more
points
of
color
I'll,
be
at
65
and
well
age
in
10
years,
but
I'm
65
people,
not
white
I'll,
be
there
in
maybe
two
years,
maybe
less
so
I
know
we're
not
supposed
to
consider
the
future.
What
seems
crazy
to
me,
but
I
will
be
at
65
percent
of
minority
population
in
less
than
two
years.
E
A
E
Again,
voting
rights
section
two
we're
not
in
violation
of
that
now.
If
we
were
in
violation
of
that
right
now,
we
would
know
about
it
because
they
would
be
saying:
okay,
you
gotta
you
gotta
cut
ten
percent
out
of
10
or
whatever
their
their
number
would
be.
You
would
need
to
cut
x
amount
of
black
people
out
of
District
Four
and
either
put
them
in
three
or
five
or
whatever
you
would
put
them
they're,
not
telling
us
that
we're
going
down
a
rabbit
hole
because
The
Advocates
I
think
are
pushing
us
down
that
rabbit
hole.
K
B
There
have
been
four
previous
redistricting
that
we
actually
just
look
at
the
map
of
the
city
of
Boston
right
and,
if
whatever
one,
if
it
was
your
first
map
that
you
and
Vice
chair
and
we
sat
there
in
our
working
session-
and
we
split
you
know,
the
split
precincts
were
placed
somewhere.
But
it
seems
to
me
every
time
I
hear
this,
that
we're
only
going
to
have
the
option
to
vote
on
a
map
in
whole,
instead
of
us
as
a
council
working
on
one
map
and
moving
it
around.
K
Thank
you,
I
I
just
did
want
to
raise
so
there
I
mean
there
is
court
case
history
specifically
relevant
to
Boston
here.
So
there
was
a
1985
case,
decided
I,
think
in
1986
it's
the
Latino
political
action
committee
versus
the
city
of
Boston,
and
in
that
case,
just
to
read
a
quick
paragraph
from
it.
What
it
said
was
where
voting
is
highly
polarized.
A
65
figure
is
a
generally
accepted
threshold
which
has
been
used
by
the
Department
of
Justice
and
reapportionment
experts.
K
Yet-
and
this
is
to
your
point
right,
this
figure
is
highly
judgmental
the
appellants
speak
of
an
acceptable
range
of
65
to
75
percent
and
in
another
case
the
district
court
considered
packing
up
to
80
to
be
automatically
acceptable.
It
then
analyzed
packing,
where
greater
than
80,
to
see
if
other
factors,
together
with
packing
made
it
unlawful,
so
I
do
think
that
some
of
these
numbers-
we
have
some
Court
history
around
I,
mean
I,
think
I
think
the
way
to
think
about
this
exercise
in
terms
of
like
the
VRA
guidelines
is
and
I
mean.
K
I
said
this
at
our
last
working
session.
We
clearly
can't
have
maps
that
make
District
4
that
reduce
its
white
population
and
I
would
say.
We
clearly
can't
have
maps
that
increase
District,
3's
white
population.
Those
are
like
very
simple
guardrails,
then
I
think
there's
this
question
of.
How
far
is
your
map
going
to
actually
achieve
this
65
threshold
or
move
in
that
direction?
K
Vis-A-Vis
the
1980s
like
to
history
and
the
reality
I
think
is
that
it's
possible
to
to
change
our
districts
such
that
you
can
clear
that
threshold
of
the
fourth
district
I
don't
actually
think
that
any
of
the
maps
that
are
filed
are
doing
that
yet,
including
the
one
that's
been
much
discussed
and
has
not
is
not
yet
officially
in
front
of
the
council.
So
I
just
want
to
say,
like
you
know,
I
think
the
65
number
is
important.
K
I,
don't
know
whether
we'll
reach
it
or
not,
but
I
do
think
it
has
some
there's
some
real
there
there
in
terms
of
like
the
legal
history
of
this
issue,
and
so
you
know
to
me,
that's
you
know,
that's
a
question
that
we
have
to.
We
have
to
be
asking
as
we
move
things
around
and
I
would
just
say
that
I
think
that
I
think
that
it's
clear
right,
that
the
council
does
need
to
be
taking
seriously
trying
to
keep
neighborhoods
as
whole
as
possible.
K
C
F
F
To
build
an
opportunity
for
diverse
representation,
then
it
sounds
like
this
is
a
step
in
that
direction
with
some
of
the
movings
of
these
presents
here
and
there
right.
So
this
could
be
in
the
next
10
years
an
opportunity
to
see
that
happen,
because
if
you
look
at
the,
if
you
look
at
the
highest
percentage
of
presents
that
vote
oftentimes,
it's
some
of
these
precincts
that
are
determining
who
represents
D3.
F
So
I
just
think
it's
important
for
us
to
remind
ourselves
of
that
and
then
in
regards
to
South
Boston
International
as
a
Latina
and
and
someone
who
has
worked
in
deep
Community
with
the
Latino
Community
I
I
do
believe.
There
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
seize
this
moment
when
we're
also
looking
at
D2
as
an
opportunity
for
more
representation.
G
G
G
Nobody
can
make
that
map,
it
doesn't
exist
and
the
reason
for
that
is
this
has
been
alluded
to
there's
13
000
people
in
District
Two,
and
we
need
to
readjust
that,
and
so,
in
order
to
do
that,
you
have
to
shift
things
around
in
the
city
from
a
map
perspective.
So
nobody
is
going
to
put
forward
a
map
that
doesn't
split
a
new
neighborhood.
That's
just
not
going
to
happen.
G
I
mean
I've,
seen
two
maps
that
split
Jamaica
Plain
when
it
hasn't
been
split
before
I
see
neighborhood
maps
that
take
out
parts
of
Mattapan
from
District
Five
I've,
seen
all
of
those
things
and
and
frankly,
on
our
compromise
map.
I
do
lose
a
part
of
Mattapan
into
district
four,
but
the
other
issue
here
is
because
the
numbers
that
keep
coming
up
about
you
know
packing
and
nobody
told
us
that
we're
packing.
G
So
how
do
we
know
we're
packing
I've
heard
it
pretty
distinctly
from
the
NAACP
and
other
community
organizations
that
this
is
very
much
a
packing
I?
Don't
know
why
we
would
assume
that
there's
somebody
who
would
just
show
up
from
the
federal
government
and
say
to
us,
hey
I,
know
you
guys
are
working
on
this
you're
packing
already.
G
G
It's
it's
both
the
least
White
and
the
most
black,
and
so
from
the
standpoint
of
what
our
charges
our
charges
always
to
create
as
diverse
districts
as
we
can
that
create
opportunity,
districts
and,
as
it
turns
out
because
of
the
population
increase
in
in
District
Two,
it's
gonna
have
to
shed
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
many
times
I've
said
this
feel.
Like
I've
said
it
so
many
times
it's
either.
G
Gonna
have
to
shed
this
out
then,
or
it's
going
to
have
to
shed
some
combination
of
the
south
end
and
South
Boston,
or
it's
going
to
have
to
shed
South
Boston,
and
so
the
reality
is.
Those
are
the
only
things
it
can
do
in
our
compromise
map.
It
sheds
a
little
bit
of
both,
and
so
that
is
how
that
worked
out
because
it
has
to
shed.
There
is
no
world
where
the
district
2
that
exists
on
lines
right
now
can
exist
in
two
three
four
weeks.
G
It
just
will
not
happen
because
the
population
increase
has
been
so
Stark
and
so
ultimately,
I,
don't
know
how
we,
how
we
deal
with
that
without
District
2,
shedding.
There's
no
map
where
District
two
can
keep
every
single
Precinct,
so
I,
don't
know
how
the
the
presumption
is
that
somehow
this
is
any
different
than
any
other
map.
I
put
a
map
out
with
counselor
Fernandez
Anderson
that
left
South
Boston
More
whole
than
it's
ever
been
gives
back
McCormick.
G
That
map
took
out
all
of
this
out,
then
that
we
heard
about
that
from
multiple
people.
This
map
does
a
little
bit
of
a
sort
of
clean
connection
of
things,
nothing
beyond
what
other
Maps
had
already
proposed,
except
for
I.
Think
two
presets
I
think
six,
three
and
six
one
are
in
there
that
that
weren't
in
these
versions
or
these
variations
that
had
come
before,
and
so
from
that
standpoint
it's
very
much
in
line
with
what
we've
seen
and
I
would.
G
Just
you
know,
I
would
refrain
from
having
folks
say
that
this
community
doesn't
get
split.
If
you
look
at
this
map,
well,
another
community
split.
If
you
look
at
that
map,
and
so
we're
always
going
to
be
splitting
something-
and
the
question
is
just-
are
we
doing
it
in
the
furtherance
of
the
Voting
Rights
Act
and
the
furtherance
of
diversifying
our
actual
City
in
terms
of
what
the
district
lines
and
the
representation
look
like,
and
so
that
has
been
our
charge.
G
I
B
A
B
B
I
thought
it
would
be
like
on
the
floor
if
we
have
to
be
here
or
on
the
table
and
we
as
a
group
because
I
don't
think
me,
making
changes
alone
is
going
to
make
it
any
better
or
any
map
that
we
have
to
work
through.
These
Maps
together.
So
absolutely
thought
that
there'd
be
lots
of
changes,
but
it
was
a
good
starting
point.
So.
I
A
On
a
second
I
I,
it
occurs
to
me
that,
as
as
we
mentioned
earlier,
everyone
has
see,
looks
at
him
actually
a
map
and
they
like
some
things
and
they
don't
like
other
things.
It
might
be
a
worthwhile
exercise
for
us
all
to
look
at
the
the
maps
and
say
I
like
that
or
I
have
problems
with
this,
so
that
we
can
get
some
consensus
on
the
stuff
that
we
like
and
then
then
we
can.
Then
we
can
negotiate
the
stuff
that
that
is
problematic
for
us,
but
I
think
you
know.
A
We
all
agree
that
the
certain
certain
I
certain
things
that
that
we
and
right
on
early
at
the
start,
when
we
did
the
when
we
did
the
the
split
precincts
exercise.
You
know
we
we,
we
were
coming
up
with
ideas
that
that
there
was
broad
consensus
on
so
I.
Think
charging
you
with
the
thinking,
thinking
about
the
maps
and
saying
well
I
like
that
idea,
I'm,
not
so
sure
about
that.
A
I
A
A
I
I
You
know
the
most
change
in
white
population
than
any
other
city
council
that
that
proposed
the
map
at
that
time,
but
also
want
to
point
out
that
gentrification
is
real
and
it's
happening
in
District
Four
at
a
large
rate,
and
that
also
black
displacement
is
real,
and
this
happened
in
District
Four
at
a
large
rate
as
well.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
taking
that
into
consideration
when
we're
talking
about
drawing
these
lines
and
then
also
I,
know
that
you
know
sometimes
we're
talking
about
a
percentage
of
population.
I
But
what
we
haven't
done
are
brought
up
in
in
in
in
in
in
the
council
yet
or
these
working
session.
Is
you
know
how
that
percentage
actually
affects
the
vote?
So
just
wanted
to
see
if
voting
data
analysis
is
is
going
to
be
presented
on
changes,
because
that's
that's!
That's
really
who
elects
you
know
the
people
in
this
room
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
taking
that
in
consideration,
because
four
percent
might
sound
like
a
small
number,
but
four
percent
could
attribute
to
being
30
of
the
vocal.
A
L
Floor
and
I'll
be
brief.
Actually
it's
just
what
you
brought
up
I
think
it's
important
to
always
remember
that
when
we're
talking
about
opportunity,
districts,
the
Nexus
in
the
beginning
and
the
root
of
that
is
really
about
the
voter
and
whether
the
voters
are
able
to
elect
the
candidate
of
their
choice.
L
So
the
and
that's
that's
an
important
reminder,
because
a
candidate
of
their
choice
can
actually
be
anybody,
and
so
you
can't
actually
answer
that
question
without
the
data
without
looking
to
see
if
there's
racially
polarized
data
from
past
elections,
so
I
just
want
a
second
and
underscore
that
an
important
rather
than
having
like
rigid,
rigid
numbers,
it's
really
important
to
sort
of
look
at
the
data
and
the
voting
patterns
to
see
what
it
supports
that
is
critically
important,
rather
than
saying
I'll
just
leave
it
there.
Thank
you.
L
So
I
guess
my
request
is
to
the
chair
yes,
and
to
the
vice
chair
that
to
present
whatever
map
right
and
whatever
arguments,
especially
around
opportunity
districts
that
we
are
looking
at
the
you,
you
can't
actually
make
that
analysis
without
having
the
data
of
a
virtually
racially
polarized
voting.
So
I
I
just
hope
that
we
are.
We
have
data
to
support
the
request.
You
know
whatever
whatever
argument,
and
that
that
data
will
be
presented
because
I
think
like
a
lot
of
these
conversations,
are
hard
because
we
actually
aren't
talking
about.
D
D
I
wanted
to
make
is
during
that
split
Precinct.
When
we
were
working
in
the
piedmonty
room,
Madam
chair,
it
was
easier
when
you
saw
the
map
on
the
on
the
table
and
you
and
you
could
look
at
it
and
you
could
have
a
discussion
and
you
could
pass
a
paper
over
to
someone
with
the
with
the
logistics
of
what
the
with
the
population.
D
It's
it's
impossible
to
see
some
of
these
Maps
and
it's
confusing
to
people
and
especially
to
the
public.
We
owe
the
public
the
best
transparent
process
we
can
and
if
we
can't
see
the
maps
in
front
of
us,
how
is
the
public
going
to
see
the
maps
and
look
at
the
data?
The
the
reason
I
make
that
is,
is
maybe
we
want
to.
D
Maybe
we
consider
again
going
back
to
the
piedmonty
room
and
and
having
a
discussion
there
if
we're
able
to
have
a
camera
in
there
that
covers
the
that
records
it
and
broadcasts
it
broadcasts
it
for
for
the
public.
That's
that's
that's
my
suggestion.
One
suggestion,
the
other.
The
other
issue
I
wanted
to
highlight
is
yeah.
D
I
wanted
to
make
sure
Cathedral
and
Villa
Victoria
were
together.
That
was
my
priority
and
when
I
was
able
to
get
cathedral
in
Villa,
Victoria
two
different
precincts,
but
to
get
them
United.
My
priority
was
to
keep
them
in
District
2.,
because
they're
communities
of
color
high
high
concentrations
of
community
of
color
and
right
next
to
it
is
Castle
Square,
which
has
a
high
concentration
of
Asian,
mostly
Asian,
and
in
African-American
I.
Bring
that
up.
D
Food
I
called
mayor
Walsh.
Almost
every
day,
I
need
more
food
for
my
residence,
especially
residents
of
color
residents
in
public
housing
developments.
I,
don't
apologize
for
that,
so
my
my
goal
was
to
keep
as
I
said,
to
keep
Cathedral
and
to
in
Villa
Victoria
in
Castle
Square
together,
because
the
high
concentrations
of
communities
of
color.
So
so
why
is
it
now?
Okay
to
divide
communities
of
color
in
South
Boston,
but
it's
okay
to
do
it
in
South
Boston
communities
of
Kawa.
D
My
my
Spanish
community
in
South
Boston
rely
on
my
staff
to
get
things
done:
the
Dominican
Republic
in
malara
who's
from
the
Dominican
Republic.
They
graduated
from
Brighton
High
School.
They
graduated
from
UMass
Boston.
They
speak
Spanish.
They
rely
on
them
too,
because
I
don't
speak
Spanish,
but
my
staff
does.
They
rely
on
Vanessa,
Sophia
and
Melissa
to
speak
Cantonese
in
Mandarin,
because
I
don't
speak
Cantonese
in
Mandarin,
so
they
call
them
up.
We
don't
we
need
food
councilor
Flynn.
Can
you
bring
us
food
and
that's
what
we
do?
D
D
I
know
about
South
Boston
Axion
I've
worked
with
them.
I've
worked
with
them
on
immigration
rights,
on
food
access
issues,
on
support
of
our
residents.
Most
of
them
live
in
public
housing
developments
why
some
people
are
up
in
Cape
Cod
in
the
summertime
I'm
in
the
public
housing
developments
on
a
Saturday,
100
degrees
out
working
with
my
constituents,
I
don't
take
a
day
off.
I
haven't
taken
a
day
off
in
five
years,
because
my
my
constituents
need
me
and
I
take
this
I.
A
You
Construction
Flynn
I
really
appreciate
your
commitment
and
your
hard
work
for
your
your
residence.
You
really
do
exemplify
what
is
best
in
a
city
council
or
District
counselor.
Unfortunately,
we
have
this
difficult
problem
that
the
population
in
your
district
has
increased
and
we
have
to
shed
some
population.
D
D
A
So
I
think
thank
you
for
cancer,
Flynn
I.
Still
the
problem,
Still
Remains
that
we
have
to
figure
out
how
to
reallocate
13
000
people
from
District
Two
into
adjoining
districts
and
that's
an
ongoing
it's
it's
a
puzzle.
It's
a
challenge
and
I
think.
If
we
all
work
together,
we
can
get
to
something
that
that
will
will
be
acceptable.
But
it's
it's
difficult
and
it's
painful
and
it's
not
it's
not
any
reflection
of
the
hard
work
that
you've
done
in
your
in
your
district
and
your
commitment
to
your
District.
Thank
you.
A
F
So
if
there's
an
expectation
that
I'm
going
to
tone
it
down
so
that
we
can
move
this
work
forward
and
I'm
doing
my
part
to
do
that.
I
am
going
to
ask
all
of
my
colleagues
in
this
chamber
to
do
the
same,
because
right
now,
that's
not
what
I'm,
seeing
so
I
just
want
to
name
that
chair
that
I
know
that
tensions
are
high
and-
and
so
are
the
feelings
around
this.
F
But
we
were
asked
to
check
ourselves
at
the
door
so
that
we
can
be
here,
and
so
I
am
going
to
ask
us
to
remind
ourselves
of
that.
But
that's
not
what
I
asked
to
to
to
speak
on
I
do
want
to
say
that
very
similar
to
the
comment
that
I
made
earlier
around
the
Asian
community
and
the
white
Community
I'm,
going
to
also
say
something
about
the
Latino
community
in
need
during
covet.
F
You
know,
the
whole
city
of
Boston
was
in
need-
and
it's
important
for
us
to
to
note
that,
and
we
also
know
that
those
who
have
the
highest
need
were
in
the
most
vulnerable
districts,
and
this
is
why
we're
having
this
conversation
in
terms
of
representation
and
it's
not
about
our
colleagues
and
their
work
or
lack
thereof.
It
is
around
what
this
is
about.
F
It
is
about
making
sure
that
the
next
10
years,
that
the
work
that
we
do
here
reflects
the
Voting
Rights
Act,
and
it
might
be
easier
for
us
to
go
through
this
exercise
if
we
don't
continue
to
personalize
it
and
the
only
reason
why
I
continue
to
bring
that
up.
It's
because
it
feels
really
uncomfortable.
F
To
be
in
this
position,
when
my
colleagues
are
making
assumptions
about
our
lack
of
regard
for
certain
communities
or
that
we
believe
that
you're
not
representing
your
people,
I,
am
excited
and
grateful
that
Anna
and
some
of
your
team
members
are
Dominican.
I
am
Dominican
too
I
appreciate
you
making
that
effort
and
making
sure
that
language,
interpretation
and
translation
is
there,
but
that's
not
what
this
is
about.
F
F
G
You
I
just
want
a
second
remaining
in
this
chamber
and
using
this
technology,
as
we've
done,
I
think
it's
the
best
and
most
efficient
way
to
make
sure
everything
we
say
is
recorded
and
that
everybody
who's
not
able
to
personally
be
here,
which
makes
it
more
Equitable
for
folks
who
have
a
difficult
time
taking
off
time
from
work
or
making
it
to
the
city
council
and
finding
parking
and
dealing
with
all
those
different
things
are
able
to
watch.
This
I
think
this
is
the
best
venue
for
these
hearings.
G
I
also
want
to
just
address,
because
I
am
the
counselor
from
High
Park
that
when
my
family
came
to
this
country,
specifically
to
Massachusetts
and
Boston,
where
they
found
a
home,
was
via
Victoria.
It's
where
my
father
was
it's
where
my
some
of
my
siblings
were
born.
It
is
very
near
and
dear
to
me
at
the
affordable
housing
that
the
opportunities
it
gave
my
family,
but
also
specifically
the
affordable
housing
in
the
South
End
and
their
connection
and
Nexus
to
folks
in
South,
Boston
I'm,
very
aware
of
them
very
aware
of
them.
G
But
I
also
think
it's
important
for
people
to
understand,
especially
as
it's
been
raised
because
I've
heard
it
in
relation
to
District
Four.
The
reality
is
that
the
voting
percentage
numbers
which
we
should
get
in
every
District
I'm
fine
with
that.
But
what
you're
going
to
find
is
that
in
District
Six,
where
they
just
elected
councilor,
Kendra
Lara
in
District
Five,
where
they
elected
myself
in
district
7,
which
Council
Fernandez
Andrews
Anderson,
represents.
G
There
is
a
larger
percentage
of
white
population
by
like
double
digits
and
when
you
get
into
the
voting
percentage,
it's
going
to
be
the
highest,
and
so
even
under
all
of
those
sort
of
configurations.
I
think
you're
going
to
find
that
District
4
is
still
going
to
have
the
lowest
percentage
of
actual
white
vote
and
white
voters
in
any
of
these
districts
that
are
created
and
so
I
think
it's
helpful,
but
I
don't
particularly
use
it
to
guide
my
thought
process
on
this,
because
I
don't
think
that
we're
really
talking
about
something.
G
That's
significantly
going
to
change
the
face
of
District,
Four
I
think
what
these
kinds
of
changes
do
is.
It
creates
a
real,
true
opportunity,
District
in
District
three,
because
it
gets
you
up
to
about
65
percent
and
so
there's
there's
some
real
gains
there
and
I
think
that
the
voting
information
is
important.
But
it's
also
important
to
put
that
in
in
sort
of
the
same
sort
of
place
as
where
it
is
in
other
districts
that
have
also
been
opportunity.
Districts
I
mean
District.
G
G
It
I
think
that
the
voting
demographics
are
important,
but
I
think
they
should
be
in
the
context
of
where
we've
had
other
voting
demographics
and
what
those
look
like
and
I
think
we'll
find
that
the
differences
are
still
very
Stark
throughout
the
city
in
a
way
that
doesn't
really
weaken,
District
4
or
put
District
4
into
a
place
where
it's
no
longer
a
district
for
people
of
color,
and
so
that's
that's
really
it.
On
my
end.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
E
The
floor.
Thank
you.
Madam
chair
I,
appreciate
your
passion.
I
didn't
see
anything
out
of
decorum
there.
What
I
saw
was
passion,
you're,
passionate
about
it.
First
person
I
asked
about
8-1
and
I
think
it
was
seven
five
I
think.
If
I
take
those
two
precincts,
we
can
square
it
away.
He
broke
out
into
a
cold
sweat
because
of
the
way
he
feels
about
his
housing
developments.
E
E
E
So
now
we're
going
to
go
in
and
we're
going
to
cut
up
housing
developments
and
and
split
those,
so
that
I
would
argue
dilutes
dilutes
that
voice
right
there,
which
potentially
down
the
line
there
might
be
there
might
be
a
a
candidate
coming
out
of
one
of
those
housing
belts.
There's
you
know
whether
it's
Anne
Lynch
homes,
D
Street,
Villa,
Victoria,
Castlegate,
that's
where
it
comes
from
keeping
those
keeping
those
together
and
again
we're
back
to
political
aspirations,
numbers
that
make
us
feel
good,
politically
65.
E
We
need
to
get
District
4
to
60
District
3
to
65.
I'm
at
63.
Now
I
made
63
now
that
map
right
there
doesn't
hurt
any
neighborhoods.
There
was
a
complaint
from
my
good
colleague
over
here
about
one
Precinct
I'm
talking
about
five
precincts
here
and
there.
For
me
last
time,
I
picked
up.
I
lost
I
lost
three
precincts
in
Lower
Mills.
That
I
won
all
of
I
lost
16
one
I
lost
16,
16,
3
and
I
picked
up
five
precincts,
I
think
in
the
North.
E
That's
a
lot
of
change
for
first-time
Council
I
wouldn't
want
anyone
to
have
to
go
through
it.
We
don't
need
to
make
all
these
changes
to
stay
within
the
requirements
and
how
many
times
I
can
say
that
to
you,
we
don't
need
to
break
neponsada.
We
don't
need
to
break
up
saying:
oh,
we
kept
them
together.
We're
moving
them
over
Brian
I.
Think
that
that
that
analysis
is
very
important
to
see
what
potentially
can
happen
in
that
in
that
next
election.
E
What?
If
what
does
that
mean?
We
get
our
job
wrong.
If
someone
was
able
to
go
in
and
create
a
coalition?
That's
my
map.
It's
called
the
Coalition
map
for
a
reason.
I
was
never
supposed
to
win
my
district
because
of
the
voter
heavy
down
down
this
down.
The
South
I
was
never
supposed
to
win
it.
You
know
why
I
want
it,
because
I
formed
a
coalition
I
had
the
coalition.
E
My
good
counsel
from
District
2
has
a
coalition.
The
reason
why
he
sits
right.
There
is
because
he
had
a
coalition.
His
opponent
was
with
manino,
so
he
had
all
the
Menino
people
in
Southie.
If
anybody
remembers
Menino,
remember
him
his
opponent
I'll
say
that
again,
his
opponent
had
all
the
Menino
people
in
Southie.
He
needed
a
coalition.
E
He
needed
the
Spanish
speakers.
He
needed
the
Chinese
speakers
he
needed
to
go
and
present
himself
to
them.
As
a
coalition
district
one.
You
need
to
be
a
coalition
District
Five,
you
need
a
coalition.
Everybody
needs
a
coalition.
Now
everybody
needs
a
coalition
63,
not
good
enough.
We
want
to
harm
neighborhoods
and,
yes,
you
are
harming
my
neighborhoods.
Take
for
two
percentage
points.
Think
about
it:
safe
map
right
there
Coalition
map,
everybody
needs
it
and
the
Vietnamese
they
vote
Republican
a
lot
of
the
time.
E
The
Vietnamese
do
five
different
five
different
from
what
the
Chinese
Folk.
If
you
look
at
Vietnamese
voting
roles,
most
of
them
are
Republican
because
it
was
a
republican
Administration
that
brought
them
over.
Here
that
ended,
Vietnam,
Richard
Nixon,
he
ended
it
and
that
that
flight
coming
out
of
there
black
April,
is
what
they
call
it.
That
was,
that
was
under
the
Nixon
Administration,
a
republican
Administration,
a
lot
of
them
vote
Republican.
A
F
You
that
was
code
for
keep
it
simple
and
short.
I
got
you
I
just
want
to
say
two
things.
One
is
we
are
doing
this
exercise
so
that
it's
not
so
much
the
need
for
a
Coalition
in
order
to
be
elected,
it
is
for
people
to
be
able
to
elect
people
who
repres,
who
have
lived
their
realities
right,
like
the
whole
idea,
is
for
opportunities
to
exist
for
representation
right.
F
F
So
that
is
one
and
two
I'm
gonna
go
back
because
I've
been
behaving,
but
I
am
going
to
just
get
out
of
line
here
to
say
that
when
one
person
speaks,
it
is
considered,
passion
and
up,
you
know
uplifted,
but
when
a
woman
of
color
speaks
it's
considered
aggressive
and
disrespectful.
So
if
we're
going
to
have
this
conversation,
we
can't
have
different
norms
for
different
people,
because
that's
just
not
fair
and
I'm
going
to
keep
on
saying
it
and
make
people
feel
uncomfortable
if
we
have
to.
F
But
you
can't
have
one
set
of
rules
for
a
certain
group
and
then
the
minute
I
get
out
of
line
I
get
called
into
the
principal's
office
I'm
not
going
to
have
that.
So
if
counselor
Flynn
is
showing
passion
and
that
gets
celebrated,
I
am
not
going
to
turn
down
my
temperature
to
make
anyone
feel
comfortable
in
this
chamber
anymore,
because
I've
been
really
good.
A
D
D
So
if
people,
if
my
colleagues
would
like
to
come
or
if
the
residents
would
like
to
come
of
District
2,
the
meeting
is
Wednesday
night
at
6
pm
at
the
Condon
School
and
it's
it's
it's
located
in
West
Broadway
development.
It's
located
in
West,
West,
Broadway,
public
housing,
development,
it's
off
of
off
of
D
Street,
it's
it's
off
of
West
Broadway,
and
it's
on
it's
on
D
Street.
It's
it's
within
walking
distance
of
Broadway
Station.
D
So
again
want
to
invite
my
colleagues
if
they
are
interested
in
hearing
the
voices
of
public
housing
residents
in
South
Boston
residents
that
they
they
are
welcome
to
it
to
attend
and
I
I
want
to
make
sure.
As
a
district
city,
council
city
council
I
do
my
very
best
to
advocate
for
my
constituents
and
to
make
sure
my
constituents,
especially
residents
of
cover,
are
treated
with
respect
in
this
process.
D
D
You
can't
you
can't
effectively
do
the
job
without
knowing
the
residents
and
and
able
to
communicate
in
their
language
and
if
we're
dividing
people
of
color,
especially
people
that
speak
various
languages
into
District,
free
I,
don't
know
if
that
eventually,
if
that
City
councilor
will
have
a
staff
that
can
speak
Cantonese
in
Mandarin
in
Spanish,
that
may
not
be
the
point.
But
that's.
But
that's
that's
important
to
me,
because
when
I
leave,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
residents
and
public
housing
and
people
of
color
have
an
equal
opportunity.
A
D
My
colleagues
will
join
me
and
staying
United
in
making
sure
the
voices
of
residents,
especially
residents
of
color,
are
treated
fairly
treated
with
respect
and
I'm
trying
to
say
this
respectfully
to
my
colleagues
but
I
I
would
like
to
ask
for
your
support
not
to
divide
communities
of
color
in
South
Boston.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
E
10
years
ago,
we
sat
in
the
curly
room,
all
of
us
around
the
table
maps
on
the
maps
on
the
table
with
a
screen
going
where
we
made
changes
in
real
time.
I
haven't
seen
that
yet
I
don't
see
how
we
moved
from
this
Log
Jam
we're
in
we're
in
here
now,
since
we've
come
to
this
room,
it
seems
to
have
stopped.
We
had
a
couple
good
working
sessions.
I
know
we're
trying
to
be
transparent,
but
we
haven't
moved
the
dial
at
all.
Since
we
came
into
this
room.
This
is
very
impersonal.