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Docket #1045 - Hearing regarding the expansion of City development requirements with a focus on achieving baseline tree preservation and total tree capacity on a development site
A
A
Okay,
so
at
this
point
just
so,
we
know
what
what
is
happening.
I
will
ask
my
colleagues
welcome
counter
garrison
as
well.
I
will
ask
my
colleagues
to
give
brief
opening
statements,
then,
with
the
indulgence
of
our
esteemed
administration,
panel
I
will
take
the
first
three
people
who
have
signed
up
to
testify
from
the
public
and
then
we'll
dive
right
into
Q&A
with
the
panel
and
then,
if
there's
anyone
else,
we'll
finish
up
public
testimony
of
those
who
have
signed
in
and
anyone
else
who
feels
moved
to
speak
at
that
point.
Councillor
McCarthy
thank.
B
You
very
much,
madam
chairperson,
and
thanks
everybody
for
being
here
really.
This
conversation
started
at
Sunday
morning
at
George,
Wright
Golf
Course,
with
my
friend
Richie
Murphy,
who
is
here,
and
you
know
we
were
talking
about
developments
and
things
that
were
going
on
in
the
city
and
I
happen
to
mention
that
there
was
a
development
and
as
a
right
development
that
happened
right
right
by
my
house
and
they
built
two
two
duplexes.
Originally
he
thought
about
the
three,
but
I
told
him.
No,
it
was
gonna
jam
it
in.
B
So
he
put
two
in
there,
which
was
completely
as
of
right
and
great
developer.
Are
the
four
families
that
live
there
now
awesome?
They
love
our
neighborhood
and
they're
certainly
welcome,
but
in
the
process
they
were
prefab
houses
and
in
the
process
he
removed
I'm,
gonna,
guess
anywhere
from
8
to
12
hundred
euros.
He
raised
that
raised
a
single
family,
a
three
family
that
was
there
and
then
just
kind
of
clear-cut.
Now
he
did
plant
some
trees,
and
that
was
fantastic
and
it
does
look
really
really
nice.
B
B
What
mitigation
packages
to
give
back
and,
as
we
know
and
chief
cook,
knows
more
than
more
than
anybody
with
his
outstanding
work
on
the
climate,
change
and
and
and
climate
ready
boss
and
keeping
as
many
trees
as
possible
is
necessary
and
and
I
enjoy
these
hearings,
because
everybody
here
is
gonna
roll
in
the
right
direction.
We're
gonna
roll
in
the
same
direction
and
through
working
sessions,
we'll
probably
pull
a
lot
of
this
stuff
apart.
But,
as
you
know,
the
first
step
is
a
hearing.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
holding
this
hearing
and
for
your
commitment
to
environmental
justice.
I
also
want
to
thank
to
make
a
council
McCarthy
for
his
leadership
on
this
critical
issue
for
the
for
the
future
of
our
city.
It
is
imperative
that
we,
as
a
city,
discuss
our
goals
for
planting
trees
in
how
we
can
get
there
and
during
this
unprecedented
development
boom
in
our
city.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
Commissioner
Chris
Cook
for
the
important
work
that
he
and
Mayor
Walsh
are
doing
in
the
administration.
C
This
issue
is
so
important
in
terms
of
our
environment
in
health,
as
our
trees
contribute
to
climate
control,
reduce
heat
by
Cohen,
ear,
reduce
or
remove
air
pollutants.
Our
trees
in
open
space
are
also
beneficial
to
all
residents
in
terms
of
mental
health.
Stress
relief
and
devil
well,
be
well
being
yes,
counselor
McCarthy
illustrates
in
his
hearing
order,
we
have
a
goal
to
plant
10
thousand
trees
in
the
city
of
Boston.
We
have
planted
10,000
and
removed
6,000.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
on
this
issue.
C
This
important
issue
to
address
our
environment
in
climate
change,
heat
reduction
in
the
mental
health
of
our
residents
in
terms
of
tree
preservation,
I
also
want
to
highlight
the
negative
impact
gas
leaks
have
on
our
trees
and
their
health
as
well.
I,
frequently
exchange
communication
with
mothers
out
front
on
gas
leaks
that
are
happening
happening
throughout
the
city
and
they're
doing
excellent
work
on
behalf
of
our
on
behalf
of
all
of
residents
as
well.
C
Just
this
week,
a
neighbor
in
South
Boston
also
sent
me
photos
of
three
trees
in
a
kn6
Street
area
of
South
Boston
that
are
now
dead
or
dying.
We
have
notified
the
parks
department
and
also
National
Grid,
to
see
if
this
is
a
gas
leak
that
is
causing
the
death
of
these
trees
and
I'm,
really
not
satisfied
with
National
Grid
and
their
response
to
the
ongoing
gas
leaks
that
are
taking
place
in
our
city.
They
need
to
do
a
better
job.
C
C
It
has
an
impact
on
everybody.
We
need
to
continue
working
closely
with
city
government
state
government
to
make
sure
that
we
have
as
many
trees
as
we
possibly
can
during
this
economic
boom
and
again
I
just
want
to
thank
councilman,
McCarthy,
councillor,
wool,
Commissioner
cook
and
the
mayor's
administration
for
their
work.
On
on
this
important
issue.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
A
E
With
a
struggling
sapling
this
week,
I
took
a
walk
with
Bob
Barney
president
of
Claremont
neighborhood
to
survey
trees
at
sites
of
recent
and
proposed
developments
in
our
two
neighborhoods
Bob's
chart
shows
ninety-eight
trees
at
the
seven
sites,
including
city
trees.
In
the
sidewalk.
You
can
see
the
attachment
for
those
of
these
77
appear
to
be
slated
for
removal
or
vulnerable
to
root
and
canopy
damage.
Can
we
save
any
of
these
trees
and
then
how
can
we
replace
the
trees
that
are
lost?
E
Perhaps,
more
importantly,
how
can
we
maintain
space
for
future
trees
to
grow
in
the
1800's,
when
South
and
architects
imitated
London's
layout?
They
added
trees,
understanding
that
trees
offer
abundant
health
benefits.
South
end
trees
thrive,
where
buildings
are
set
back
from
the
street,
allowing
space
for
tree
roots
and
branches
to
develop
into
a
mat
or
tree
with
a
full
canopy.
Today's
developments
often
build
near
or
at
the
edge
of
the
sidewalk,
reducing
green
space
to
small
plantings
or
no
green
at
all.
E
F
Hello,
hello,
come
on
as
you
speak,
okay,
my
name
is
Caroline
Toth
Bernstein
I
live
at
10
Williams
Street
in
Roxbury
I've
lived
in
lower
Roxbury
for
15
years.
I
lived
there
with
my
son
who's
8
and
my
husband
Greg
I'm,
here
to
talk
to
you
about
a
construction
project
in
lower
Roxbury
that
plans
to
mu,
remove
over
100,
healthy
and
mature
trees
that
are
more
than
40
years
old.
F
This
project
have
completed
as
planned
will
perpetrate
the
destruction,
the
destructive
health
effects
of
Boston's
largest
and
hottest
heat
island
heat
islands
are
areas
that
absorb
and
radiate
solar
energy
due
to
the
amount
of
buildings
and
paved
services,
and
lack
of
tree
cover.
This
August,
the
New
York
Times,
published
an
article
titled
summer
in
the
city,
is
hot,
but
some
neighborhoods
suffer
more.
This
article
reports,
as
the
United
States
suffers
through
a
summer
of
record-breaking
heat.
F
New
research
shows
that
temperatures
on
a
scorching
summer
day
can
vary
as
much
as
20
degrees
across
different
parts
of
the
same
city
with
poor
and
minority
neighborhoods,
often
bearing
the
brunt
of
this
heat.
Few
trees
to
clean
and
cool
the
air
heat
islands.
Make
it
harder
to
breathe
and
contribute
to
health
issues,
particularly
for
those
in
vulnerable
communities.
In
fact,
climate
ready,
Boston
determines
Roxbury
is
a
stressed
neighborhood.
F
In
many
ways,
the
vast
majority
of
the
populations
of
this
neighborhood
falls
into
at
least
one
vulnerable
category
and
most
fall
into
several
categories,
including
older
adults,
children,
people
of
color,
limited
English,
low
to
no
income,
medical
illness
and
disabilities.
The
heat
island
effect
disproportionately
impacts
the
health
and
well-being
of
lower
roxbury
residents
today,
and,
and
is
an
issue
of
environmental
justice.
F
This
large
construction
project
on
track
and
approved
to
remove
over
100
trees
in
Boston
law
in
Boston's,
largest
and
hottest
heat
island
is
not
a
private
development
designed
by
greedy
developers
trying
to
maximize
their
profit
profits.
No,
this
project
is
designed
by
the
city
of
Boston,
for
the
reconstruction
of
Minea.
Kasparov
are
in
complete
ignorance
of
the
findings
and
commitments
spelled
out
in
climate
ready
Boston.
This
negligence
is
unconscionable,
trees
mitigate
and
can
reverse
the
effects
of
heat
islands.
The
mature
tree
is
ammonia.
F
G
Thank
you.
My
name
is
David
McCallum
I'm,
executive
director
and
co-founder
with
Amanda
rich
behind
me
of
a
new
nonprofit
called
speak
for
the
trees,
Thank
You
councillor
McCarthy
it
pleasure
to
be
here
and
thank
you
councillor
will
nice
to
see
you,
and
so
many
friendly
other
faces
who've
come
to
visit
some
of
our
work.
This
summer
we
have
been
busy
at
speak
for
the
trees,
inventory,
trees
and
just
today,
I
receive
notice
from
our
program
coordinator
that
we
have
inventory
just
completed
inventory.
G
All
the
street
trees
in
Roxbury
and
I
invite
people
to
look
at
our
map
at
open,
treemap
org,
slash,
Boston
I,
wanted
to
begin
by
thanking
then
park,
commissioner
cook,
for
putting
in
a
line
item
last
year
for
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
a
new
light.
Our
study
that
I
think
will
help
move
this
conversation
forward.
G
Another
data
point
of
understanding
where
we're
losing
trees
and
where
our
Rich's
canopy
is,
is
gonna,
be
critical
to
come
up
with
a
plan
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
losing
canopy
and,
in
fact
growing
canopy,
and
there
have
been
reasons.
There's
been
research
recently
done
at
BU
by
professor
who
teairra
and
I'd
like
to
speak
to
some
of
her
findings,
because
I
think
they're
relevant
to
the
conversation
today.
G
As
you
know,
and
and
I
know,
I'm
preaching
to
the
choir
here,
the
environmental
impacts
of
losing
that
canopy
are
are
frightening.
In
an
era
of
climate
change,
we've
seen
some
really
hot
summer
days.
That
often
tend
to,
as
the
last
speaker
just
said,
impact
communities
that
are
facing
some
of
the
gravest
challenges
and
are
on
heat
islands.
We
also
have
wetter
Springs
and
trees
mitigate
against
some
stormwater
runoff,
and
then
the
mental
benefits
of
trees
and
I
just
wanted
to
point
to
two
recent
research
articles.
G
That
I
think
also
will
help
us
think
about
what
our
goal
is
and
how
we're
going
to
get
there.
Recent
research
showed
that
at
30%
and
more
or
can
it
be
covered.
So
if
you
were
to
take
a
satellite
image,
mental
benefit
for
residents
increases
and
the
heating,
the
cooling
effect
of
trees
really
only
takes
place
at
around
forty
percent
canopy
coverage.
G
So,
if
we're
thinking
about
this
holistically,
we
really
need
to
think
about
where
those
trees
are
how
we
take
care
of
those
big
trees,
while
also
making
sure
that
we're
planting
and
caring
for
the
newly
planted
trees
that
tend
to
have
a
hard
time
establishing
themselves
and
I'm
going
to
just
end
with
one
quote
from
Gutierrez
paper.
Removal
of
large
trees
for
redevelopment
is
often
justified
by
replanting
several
seedlings,
it's
an
applet
in
its
place,
but
high
mortality
rates
and
the
time
required
for
a
seedling
to
reach
full
stature
can
result
in
a
sustained.
G
Can
it
be
declined
for
many
years
tree?
Planting
efforts
alone
seem
insufficient
to
increase
canopy
cover.
Policymakers
should
consider
alternative
strategies
to
reduce
mortality
rates
of
large
trees,
so
I.
Thank
you.
Councillor
McCarthy,
for
starting
this
conversation,
large
trees
are
critical.
I
hope
we
can
continue
to
think
of
ways
to
maintain
our
largest
and
most
beneficial
trees.
Thank.
A
You
Devine
and
again
for
anyone
else
will
pick
up
with
public
testimony
after
the
panel
discussion.
I
want
to
recognize
that
we've
also
been
joined
by
councillor
Mark
co-moh
councillor,
Matt,
O'malley,
councillor,
Michael,
Flaherty
and
councillor
nice,
asabi
George,
so
turn
it
over
to
the
panel
Thank
You
chief
I
know
you
have
a
time
commitment
as
well
and
you
were
making
time
for
our
expedited
hearing.
So
let.
H
I
K
H
Think
I
will
I
won't
articulate
as
I,
usually
I
won't
pontificate
on
the
benefits
of
trees,
because
I
think
everyone
in
the
room
probably
recognizes
the
benefits
of
the
trees,
but
just
very
quickly.
In
addition
to
beautifying
the
city,
they
reduce
air
water
noise
pollution
process,
stormwater
reduce
soil
erosion,
reduce
the
heat
island
effect
in
urban
areas
and
then
certainly
from
an
economic
development
standpoint.
H
It
is
with
gratitude
that
I
acknowledge
the
investment
that
actually
daveed
had
mentioned
earlier,
that
Mayor
Martin
J
Walsh,
and
this
council
made
with
the
adoption
of
this
year's
budget
critically
that
budget
included
funds
for
updated
lidar
data
and
an
updated
canopy
analysis
with
these
investments,
Boston
will
be
able
to
understand
the
change
trends
and
health
of
our
tree
canopy.
This
information
will
set
the
table
for
the
development
of
an
urban
forestry
master
plan
for
the
city
of
Boston.
H
The
urban
forestry
master
plan
will
include
collaboration
with
key
departments
and
agencies
that
have
a
role
in
the
protection
or
expansion
of
tree
canopy
in
the
city.
Obviously,
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Department,
the
Environment
Department
Boston
Water
and
Sewer
Commission,
the
Boston
planning
and
development
agency,
public
works
department,
Boston,
transporte,
Transportation,
Department,
state
agencies,
as
well
as
private
and,
most
importantly,
nonprofit
partners
and
citizens.
H
The
urban
forestry
plan
will
assess
national
and
international
best
practices
for
increasing
tree
canopy,
set
goals
for
canopy
protection
and
expansion
for
the
next
20
years
and
relevant,
perhaps
most
relevant
to
this
hearing,
develop
a
strategy
to
meet
those
goals,
including
policy
recommendations,
funding
and
partnership
strategies,
ordinances
and
enforcement.
In
an
action
plan
for
implementation,
recommended
improvements
to
tree
protection,
strategies
for
public
and
private
part
properties
will
be
considered,
and
we
will
also
develop
a
planting
strategy
by
neighborhood
focused
on
localization
prioritization
species,
selection
and
succession
planning
for
parks
and
streets.
H
With
an
emphasis
on
equity.
We
need
to
inform
the
process,
content
and
maintenance
of
a
neighborhood
by
neighborhood
tree
inventory
that
will
also
provide
tree
size
and
species.
Information
inventory
itself
may
not
be
part
of
this
plan
because
some
of
the
volunteer
efforts
may
be
sufficient
at
that
time
or
we
may
undertake
a
official
tree
inventory
citywide
at
that
time.
Recommended
change
is
needed
to
the
current
operational
and
maintenance
practices
to
achieve
these
plans,
goals
will
be
considered,
so
we
look
forward
to
partnering
with
the
council
throughout
this
entire
process.
H
We're
very
excited
that
the
lidar
data
will
be
available
to
us.
The
lidar
is
scheduled
to
take
place
over
the
next
few
weeks,
we'll
be
able
to
analyze
the
data
before
the
winter.
We're
happy
to
share
that
with
the
council
and
work
through
the
climate
ready
plans,
the
climate
action
plan
with
the
council
and
with
our
partner
agencies
to
develop
this
urban
forestry
master
plan
and
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
Thank.
I
No
I
would
just
say
thank
you
to
council,
McCarthy
and
council
for
hosting
the
hearing,
and
thank
you
for
the
advocates
for
showing
up,
and
you
know
we're
here
really
just
for
a
conversation
to
see.
You
know
it's
obviously
important
part
of
the
work
we
do
every
day
and
hearings
like
this
can
really
help
us
inform
you
know
future
conversations
so
we're
here,
for
you
know
for
open
conversation.
Thank.
B
That's
pretty
good,
that's
better
than
I
usually
give
up.
So
you
know,
as
I
said
in
my
opening
statement.
I
have
a
lot
of
information.
I
want
to
thank
Lee,
Blasi
and
and
need
to
hold
it
for
my
office
for
digging
into
all
these
towns
conquered
walls.
The
Lexington
Newton
is
a
bunch
more
Brookline
and
the
reason
being
is
I
think
that
we
can
take
a
lot
from
what
they
do.
I
know
some
of
them
have
you
know
they
have
a
general
tree
fund
which
I
know
we
do
have.
We
had
yeah.
H
So
I'll
know
please
very
briefly
about
it,
so
we
do
have
a
tree
fund
that
is
replenished
through
the
removals
of
street
trees
that
have
to
be
removed
due
to
construction
and
that
is
to
finance
either
the
replacement
of
street
trees
or
the
parks
departments,
replacements,
treatment
and
that's
specific
to
the
right
away.
Right.
B
Yeah,
so
you
know
other
towns
pay,
let's
say
a
developer
needs
a
variance
and
they
have
to
remove
a
hundred-year
oak.
They
pay
by
the
inch
chest-high
how
many
inches
the
tree
is.
That's
how
much
you
pay
that
goes
into
the
fund
or
that
you
know
there's
some
type
of
formula
that
we
can
work
out
and
by
dissecting
a
lot
of
other
other
towns.
Ordinances.
B
I
think
we
can
come
up
with
something
unique
for
Boston
that
works
for
Boston,
some
pay
per
tree,
which
doesn't
really
make
sense,
because
if
you
take
down
a
hundred
year
old,
can
you
plant
a
you
know
a
three-inch
maple?
It's
not
the
same.
So
you
know
that
these
are
the
things
I
want
to
talk
about
and
I
know.
Chris
and
I
talked
to
offline
chief
and
I
talked
offline
about.
There
was
a
program
a
while
ago
about
planting
trees
on
private
property
front
yards.
You
just
talk
about
that.
A.
H
Little
bit
certainly
yeah,
so
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Department,
at
a
time
where
it
was
becoming
increasingly
challenging,
withers,
ad8
constraints
or
other
constraints
on
sidewalks
to
find
planting
locations
in
certain
neighborhoods.
They
offered
a
program
where
they
would
actually
plant
in
people's
yards
over
time
that
practice
was
discontinued,
but
that
is
an
available
practice
that
we
could
either
rekindle
or
reevaluate
right.
B
And
I
love
that
for
many
reasons,
because
coming
from
the
Public
Works
Department
I
know
during
harsh
winters
were
fire
and
salt
and
salt
and
tree
pets.
Don't
work
very
well
together,
it's
just
the
reality,
so
we
plant
new
trees
and
if
the,
if
the
neighbors
aren't
neighborly
and
they
don't
water
them
issues
happen.
You
know,
and
we've
done
a
really
nice
job
at
planting.
You
know
a
hole
on
Wes
tree
right
in
front
of
the
gorge
right.
For
instance,
we
planted
like
six
or
seven
trees,
but
they
were
across
the
street
from
residents.
B
The
Golf
Course
doesn't
have
the
the
ability
to
water
those
trees
and
most
of
those
trees
have
now
perished.
But
if
we
brought
on
the
redesign
of
Jorge
right,
though
we're
doing
I
know
we're
gonna
put
some
trees
behind
the
wall,
which
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
but
I,
look
at
a
lot
of
the
streets
and
I
think
my
colleagues
will
say
as
well.
As
you
know,
everybody
here
lives
in
Boston.
You
know
we
see
people
who
could
have
the
possibility
of
putting
a
nice
tree
in
their
front
yard,
but
maybe
don't
have
the
means.
B
So
if
we're
charging
developers
per
inch
and
lot
lines,
a
lot
line,
buildings
are
built,
I
would
say,
like
in
councilor,
O'malley's
district
on
weld
and
Center.
There
was
a
nice
development.
It's
gonna
be
beautiful
when
it's
done,
but
they
went
lot-lined
a
lot
line.
They
probably
removed
15
to
20
trees.
I,
don't
know
how
much
money
that
would
have
been
ultimately
at
the
end,
but
maybe
with
a
new
ordinance.
There
might
be
money
for
that
tree
fund
and
maybe
somebody
in
JP
or
West
rocker
in
that
immediate
area.
B
Having
said
that,
I'd
love
to
have
a
tree
on
my
front
lawn
would
be,
would
be
nice
so
that
you
know
that's
just
one
of
the
thoughts
that
I
have
as
well
as
we're
going
in
this.
So
I
guess
this
is
more
for
Mike.
Are
there
any
current
requirements
in
the
application
process
that
we'll
review
like
trigger
review
for
existing
trees?
On
the
lot
I
mean.
I
B
Across
because
some
developers
are
better
and
I
know,
Michael
would
be
familiar
with
this
project
and
on
River
Street
and
hi
Park
Ave
used
to
be
superior
River
Street
in
High
Park
used
to
be
superior
carpet.
It
literally
looked
like
a
white
shoe
box.
It
was,
it
was
just
a
gross
building
superior
carpet,
moved
along
developer,
came
in
I,
want
to
say,
yeah
I
think
you
reviewed
that
or
it
was
in
your
in
your
ballpark.
B
They
put
on
a
third
floor,
made
a
beautiful
third
floor,
but
the
landscaping
out
front
with
a
planted
a
couple
dog
woods.
They
planted
some
some
bushes.
They
it
looks
stunning
so
sometimes
I
see
really.
That
was
five
minutes
stuff.
Really
you
know
projects
are
done
really
really
well
and
others
not
as
aggressive
with
the
plantings.
J
I
C
Will,
when
Commissioner
cook,
can
you
talk
about
the
outreach
the
City
of
Austin
is
doing
working
with
National
Grid
on
gas
leaks
that
are
really
killing
our
trees?
It's
a
huge
problem,
I
know,
councillor
O'malley
and
council
will
work
closely
with
mothers
out
front
on
these
issues,
but
what
what
is
some
of
the
issues
were
having
with
National
Grid
so.
H
The
primary
point
of
contact
for
National
Grid
is
the
Public
Works
Department
and
their
work
through
the
pic
process.
That
being
said,
I
would
say
that
the
Environment
Department
and
arc
and
our
primary
interaction
with
them
is
actually
in
conjunction
with
the
advocates,
so
whether
it's
the
sponsoring
of
legislation.
So
recently
the
administration
had
legislation
in
order
to
set
up
a
fining
structure
for
gas
leaks,
and
you
know
specifically
to
address
the
smaller
to
mid-size
leaks
that
we
think
are
actually
contributing
to
the
tree.
H
Canopy
loss
in
the
city
of
Boston,
or
whether
or
not
it's
actually
going
to
public
events
with
groups
like
mothers
out
front
or
Beacon
or
other
groups
to
support
that
legislation.
That
is
typically
the
process
that
the
climate
action
plan
and
the
environment
department's
going
through.
As
far
as
the
direct
access
and
the
utilities
and
the
actual
coordination
that's
been
going
through
the
Public,
Works
Department,
and
then
they
bring
in
it
bring
us
in
as
I
said
as
needed.
Do.
H
It's
just
anecdotal
counselor,
but
because
there's
so
many
stresses
on
trees
in
the
urban
environment
and
I'm
talking
specifically
about
trees
and
the
right-of-way
they're,
the
ones
that
are
most
likely
to
be
hurt
by
gas
leaks.
That
being
said,
it's
all
over
the
city
and
it's
it's
it's
typically
very
easy
to
identify
a
tree
that
is
suffering
from
from
a
gas
leak.
It's
you
know,
typically
sighs
it
starts
with
you
know.
The
top
of
the
canopy
died
off
there.
H
It's
it's
significant
and
when
you
start
looking
at
that,
these
are
capital
dollars.
Yes,
some
of
these
trees
are
under
warranty.
It
is
frustrating
because
you
can
feel
like
you're
wasting
money
at
certain
times,
so
we
certainly
support
all
the
efforts
to
get
as
many
leaks
fixed
as
possible,
and
we
also
need
to
be
more
strategic
and
I
have
to
give
credit
where
credit's,
due
to
the
urban
forester
Division
of
Parks
and
Recreation
they're,
really
trying
to
not
put
a
round
peg
into
a
square
hole
they're
trying
to
be
judicious
about.
H
C
H
With
our
new
speck
on
all
of
our
tree,
plantings
that
are
in
the
right
away
and
actually
the
tree
plantings
that
we're
doing
in
most
of
our
product
projects
now
is
to
actually
place
the
water
bag
on
the
supporting
on
the
supporting
ropes
that
are
attached
to
the
tree.
The
reason
for
that
is
to
not
encourage
tree
rot
at
the
base
of
the
tree.
Typically,
the
wart
water
bags
used
to
be
like
right
around
the
trunk
of
the
tree
at
the
bottom.
H
What
we
found
is
that
you
know
mildew
and
other
other
things
that
could
be
harmful
to
the
tree,
including
trash
could
be
collected
in
those
bags,
so
moving
them
off
to
those
poles.
It's
still
getting.
The
water
theoretically
is
still
getting
to
the
root
system,
but
not
the
bad
stuff
is
not
surrounding
the
trunk,
but
that's
part
of
the
spec
of
our
new
new
trees.
Thank
you,
Chris
yeah,
Thank.
D
H
You
know
it's
very
difficult
for
the
tree
to
be
growing
into
the
street,
so
the
tree
can
only
grow
in
certain
directions.
As
you
start
to
level
off
that
sidewalk,
you
can
actually
reduce
the
support
for
that
tree
and
then,
within
a
year
or
so,
the
hell
that
the
tree
can
be
compromised.
We've
been
very
impressed
at
models.
H
Not
only
internationally
and
nationally
but
regionally,
with
the
use
of
rubberized
surfacing
in
strategic
places
where
you're
still
allowing
a
porous
surface,
so
water
can
get
to
the
root
systems
so
working
with
the
Public
Works
Department
working
with
their
Complete
Streets
team.
We
do
have
a
few
pilots
of
employing
that
and
then
also
using
other
paving
strategies.
However,
when
we
redo
streets
and
we
have
massive
trees,
frankly,
we're
just
gonna
have
to
start
making
room
for
those
big
trees.
Thank.
A
You,
mr.
garrison
I
know
your
time
is
running
short
chief.
Could
you
just
before
you
before
we
move
on
address
the
issue
that
was
brought
out
by
miss
Toth
and
I?
Believe
others
will
bring
up
later
on
Melanie
Akash,
100
trees?
I
have
not
heard
from
a
single
person
who
wants
to
continue
the
cyclists
community
to
lose
those
trees.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
an
update
or
what
the
actual
status
is
well.
H
I'd
have
to
in
order
to
give
you
a
specific
update.
I
know
the
project
generally,
because
it's
a
BTD
project
and
its
public
works
project
right
now,
they're
tracking,
in
a
two
for
two
for
one
replacement
strategy
for
the
for
the
trees
now
I
think
daveed
from
speak
for
the
trees
brought
up
the
excellent
point
of
Doctor
Who
Tara's
research
from
Boston
University
that
there's
a
premium
on
the
value
of
large
trees.
So
it
takes
a
tree
a
long
time
to
sequester
the
kind
of
carbon
that
a
large
tree
is
sequestering.
H
This
is
complicated
when
you're
doing
major
infrastructure,
transportation
projects
or
just
any
major
infrastructure
projects
in
the
city,
and
you
have
to
count
to
balance
these
aspects.
So
we've
participated
in
the
process
in
reviewing
some
of
the
removals
and
in
fact,
we've
actually
participated
at
the
Poston
Parks
and
Recreation
Department
in
some
removals.
There's
a
significant
amount
of
ash
trees
that
are
in
the
mix
out
there
with
the
presence
of
emerald
ash
borer.
You
worry
about
the
health
of
that,
but
there
are
going
to
be
healthy
trees
that
are
lost
as
part
of
this
project.
H
Our
hope
is
that
there's
significant
coal
benefits
with
the
project,
whether
it's
the
multimodal
transportation,
it's
the
increased
stormwater
management,
the
boström,
Water
and
Sewer
Commission
is
doing
on
the
street
and
then
obviously
the
planting
of
the
trees,
I'll
defer
to
chief
Osgood
but
I
think
also.
The
intention
is
because
of
the
canopy
loss
in
that
project.
I
believe
they're
planning
on
planting
higher
caliper
trees
and
then
also
intentionally
working
with
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Department
to
plant
other
trees
in
the
Roxbury
neighborhood
too,
to
minimize
the
effect.
Okay.
M
M
H
M
Don't
need
to
tell
you.
The
benefits
of
more
trees
are
too
numerous
to
count.
I
would
use
all
of
my
five
minutes
just
talking
about
it,
but
suffice
it
to
say
when
we
about
the
climate
crisis
and
we
talk
about
weather
events
that
can
really
have
adverse
effects
on
public
health.
It's
heat,
it's
extreme
heat
I
mean
how
many
people
this
summer
are.
We
gonna
are
going
to
pass
away
because
of
extreme
temperatures.
It's
a
great
way
to
deal
with,
that
is
the
natural
cooling
that
comes
with
these
trees.
M
M
Has
there
been
any
talk
about
I
know,
you
guys
do
great
work
and
B
PDA
in
terms
of
sort
of
negotiating
with
a
large
scale
development
making
sure
that
we're
able
to
address
these
replant
this,
but
is
there
any
reason
why
we
shouldn't
have
a
codified
zoning
code
that
our
piece
of
the
zoning
code
that
mandates
X
number
of
trees
have
to
be
replanted
for
every
tree?
That's
been
removed
and
any
of
you
guys
can
jump
in
on
this.
If
you
want
to
give
the
chief
a
break
yeah.
I
I
mean
I
not
specifically
not
knowing
kind
of
how
that
would
look
and
feel
I
think
we'd
be
open
to
a
conversation
relative
to
kinda.
Is
there
something
that
could
be
proposed?
That
would
make
sense
relative
to
the
zoning
code
in
trees,
but
I
think
I
think
we're
welcoming
open
dialogue
on
on.
You
know
how
we
evaluate,
and
if
there
is
something
we
can
kind
of
codify
within
zone
I
think
we'd
have
to
really
look
look
into
it,
but
I
think
we
were
open
to
have
a
conversation
on
that
and.
K
While
we're
reviewing
projects,
I
mean
we
don't
have
any
specific
policies
or
you
know
obviously
ordinances
or
anything,
but
we
definitely
require
at
least
two
to
one,
if
not
more.
If
we're
looking
at
trees
that
were
aware
that
are
existing
on
site
oftentimes,
when
a
project
comes
in
for
pre-file,
they
don't
have
all
the
survey
information
available
for
us
at
that
time.
K
If
I'm
in
the
meeting
I
certainly
am
asking
for
that
information
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
have
a
full
understanding
of
what
site
is
and
it
its
existing
conditions
so
that
we
understand
you
know
what
is
being
taken
away
as
well
as
what
is
proposed
to
be
added.
So
I
think
it's
really
important
for
us
to
understand
that,
but
oftentimes
these
projects
are
very
very
early
in
the
discussion
stages
and
they
they
literally
have
only
just
engaged
survey
or
engaged
engineering
to
begin
to
understand
what
what
it
is,
they
have
on
their
site.
K
Oftentimes
again
anecdotally.
We
get
calls
from
the
neighbors
to
make
us
aware
of
the
value
of
existing
mature
trees
on
site
and,
at
that
point,
we'd
certainly
work
with
the
developer
to
help
them
understand
the
value
of
the
trees
that
they
have
on
site.
The
fact
that
they
can't
readily
replace
those
really
in
our
lifetime
so
that
they
understand
that
they
need
to
work
around
those
trees
to
the
best
of
their
ability
and
if
they
cannot
again
we're
asking
for
significant
tree
planting.
M
That's
have
been
borne
by
these
trees
that
that
are
it's.
The
conditions
make
it
nearly
impossible
for
them
to
survive
so
I
think
as
we
go
forward.
We
can
also
include
that
and
figure
out
ways
that
we
can
both
make
sure
these
utility
companies
pay
their
fair
share
and
fix
the
leak,
so
it
doesn't
have
to
be
an
issue
going
forward.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair
mister,
Thank.
N
You
know
decreasing
healthy
tree
mortality
and
expanding
the
city's
tree
capacity
is
a
must
for
the
city,
particularly
as
we
were
talking
about
the
health
of
our
city
and
its
air
quality,
as
well
as
its
continued
beautification.
So
any
efforts
on
that
front
I
wholeheartedly
support
Chris.
Just
a
couple
of
questions
regarding
the
role.
H
N
And
then
do
we
track
trees
that
we
lose
through
storms
and
it
was
a
microburst
just
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
it
wiped
out
it
more
on
the
DCI
side
of
the
house
but
wiped
out
a
lot
of
trees
over
in
my
neighborhood
plus
lightning
strikes
the
winter
storms
even
motor
vehicle
accidents.
Do
we
kind
of
keep
a
running
tab
as
time
trees?
We
lose
due
to
weather-related
indoor
other.
We.
H
Do
councillor
so
we
we
have,
and
we
can
certainly
provide
the
the
council
with
report.
The
issue
is
we
don't
track
the
value
of
those
trees?
So
often
the
urban
forester
divisions
going
out
an
emergency
and
they're
removing
a
tree
from
a
car
from
the
public
right
away.
That
tree
could
be
a
tree,
that's
two
years
old.
That
tree
could
be
50
60
years
old,
and
so
that's
that's,
what's
complicated
about
calculating
the
real
impact,
because
it's
not
about
number
trees.
It's
about
that
canopy.
Okay,.
N
H
They
can
it's
difficult,
but
there's
amazing
machines,
especially
prime
primarily
used
in
Europe
right
now,
where
there
are
established
tree
ordinances
and
tree
protection
laws.
There
are
entire.
There
are
cranes
that
can
remove
the
entire
tree,
including
the
root
ball
system
and
relocate
it
to
other
parts
of
the
property.
It's
often
used.
It
got
it
major
golf
courses
when
they
want
to
change.
The
fairway
is.
N
N
O
The
sponsor
of
this
hearing
order,
many
of
our
quest,
my
questions,
have
been
asked
and
answered.
I
do
have
a
question
about
the
thoughtfulness
around
the
assortment
of
the
species
of
trees
planted.
It's
something
I
learned
last
week
would
speak
for
the
trees,
the
necessity
because
of
disease
and
tree
sickness,
in
fact
in
facts
or
affects
different
populations
differently.
So
you
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
thoughtful
we
are
about.
H
Sure
so,
if
my
landscape
architect,
Liza
Meyer,
was
here
or
our
head
of
the
Urban
Forestry
Division
Greg
Boz
was
here,
they
would
roll
their
eyes
because
they
know
I'm
gonna
get
an
irate
that
if
I
ever
see
another
honey,
locust
again
I'm
gonna
give
up.
We
choose
trees
for
very
specific
reason
and
I'm.
Talking
specifically
about
the
parks
and
recreations
tree
tree
plan.
We
choose
trees
based
on
whether
or
not
we
think
they
can
survive
in
an
urban
environment
and
that
results
in
a
lot
of
honey,
locust
that
results
in
a
lot
of
ginkgos.
H
We
do
have
a
planting
list
that
it's
available
on
our
website,
they're
specifically
chosen
to
see
whether
they
can
thrive
in
the
urban
environment.
With
all
the
stresses
that
are
placed
on
them,
we
have
more
of
a
palette
to
play
with
and
I'm
sure.
That's
not
the
appropriate
Landscape
Architect
term
may
be
designed
with
is
what
I
should
say
Jill
to
design
with
when
we
look
at
our
parks
projects.
H
But
what
that
does
create
is
it
creates
errors
of
potential
catastrophe
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is.
There
was
a
period
of
time
in
Boston
where
a
lot
of
albums
were
planted.
Well
now,
with
the
proliferation
of
Dutch
elm
disease,
a
significant
amount
of
our
canopy
is
vulnerable.
There
was
there's
a
point
in
time
where
a
significant
amount
of
large
DBH
ash
trees
were
planted
in
the
city.
Well,
there'll
borer
is
now
potentially
in
the
Emerald
Necklace,
and
so
we
could
lose
a
lot
of
canopy
through
that.
H
K
Heartedly
agree
with
that,
we
have
I,
think
30%
of
our
urban
forests
is
Norway
maple
right
now,
so
we
don't
actually
actively
advocate
or
plant
Norway
maple
they're
a
bit
of
a
weed
tree
right
now
for
us
and
somewhat
problematic
with
regard
to
some
of
the
issues
that
have
been
pointed
out
through
they
through
the
course
of
this
hearing
with
the
roots
that
come
up
and
kind
of
see
or
suckering
and
all
kinds
of
things
that
are
not
great
for
an
urban
environment
accessibility.
Things
like
that.
K
So
we
are
very
careful
about
looking
and
scrutinizing
the
list
of
trees
that,
in
my
case,
when
development
projects
come
through
I
look
at
the
list
and
make
sure
that
so.
K
O
O
So
as
ISD
or
whoever
the
permitting
whoever
files
the
or
gives
a
look,
the
occupancy
certificate
in
the
end,
are
they
trained
at
least
to
some
I,
received
a
small
bit
of
training
from
speak
from
the
trees
a
few
weeks
ago?
But
are
they
at
least
aware
that
they
should
be
looking
for
a
particular
type
of
tree
to
have
been
planted?
O
K
O
And
then
my
last
question
is,
as
you
may
know,
I
chair
education
do
a
lot
of
work
around
our
schools
and
Boston
Public
Schools
as
bps
goes
through
significant
facilities
plan
and
a
number
of
schools
are
being
renovated
and
new
schools
are
being
built.
Are
we
looking
at
all
two
schools
plans
to
make
sure
that
those
large,
often
large
parcels
of
land,
include
a
certain
level
of
tree
canopy
and
that
redesign.
H
It's
an
enormous
opportunity,
so
we're
meeting
with
the
build
VPS
team,
primarily
looking
at
the
opportunities
to
engage
on,
renew
Boston
trust
and
improve
the
efficiency
of
the
buildings
themselves.
It's
a
total
missed
opportunity.
If
we
don't
look
at
the
macadam
non-porous
surfaces
that
surround
the
buildings,
there's
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
greening
and
planting
again
they're
they're
products
of
an
era
where
the
focus
was
on
as
many
parking
spaces
and
much
accessibility
as
possible.
That
led
to
a
lot
of
surfaces
that
create
a
heat
island
effect
around.
H
O
A
P
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair,
I
apologize
for
my
lateness.
I
had
an
event,
a
wonderful
event
in
my
district
around
the
preservation
of
affordable
housing.
Some
of
the
advocates
who
are
here
today
we're
actually
at
that
event.
Thank
you
for
coming
and
being
here.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
questions,
and
perhaps
it's
been
talked
about
already
I'm
sure
some
of
the
advocates
who
are
here
have
talked
about
this
issue
and
I'm
not
sure
if
all
of
the
appropriate
people
who
need
to
respond
to
these
issues
are
here
in
the
panel.
P
P
The
plan
is
to
take
them
down
and
replant
200
new
trees
as
part
of
the
redesign
of
melny,
ACCA's,
Boulevard
and
I.
Guess,
for
me,
I
really
want
to
understand
how
we're
striking
the
balance
between
the
preservation
of
trees
in
the
area
with
the
need
to
kind
of
do
improvements
in
the
public
realm,
and
is
there
a
way
where
we
can
reach
kind
of
this
happy
middle
ground
where
we're
doing
both
and
so
I
I
really
just
want
to
understand
one.
P
You
know
what
this
that
issue
is
and
what
the
plans
are
around,
preserving
as
many
trees
as
we
can
and
and
making
sure
that
the
voices
of
people
who
have
raised
concerns
in
the
neighborhoods
are
being
heard
and
incorporated
into
the
plans
and
I'm
not
suggesting
that
they
haven't
been.
But
I'd
want
to
understand
that
that
is
happening
number
one
and
then
to
whatever
happens
in
this
corridor,
how
we
ensure
that
there
will
be
maintenance.
P
P
If
you
walk
the
area,
it's
kind
of
like
this
merry-go-round,
so
you
know
from
trash
pickup
from
you
know,
cutting
back
the
weeds
to
really
taking
care
of
new
trees,
particularly
if
these
are
new
young
trees
that
need
a
lot
of
care
when
they're
first
planted.
If
someone
can
kind
of
speak
to
all
of
that,
and
then
I
may
have
some
follow-up
questions.
Thank
you.
So
much
so.
I
Specifically
BTD
is
the
lead
on
that
so
I,
maybe
if
we
could
set
up
some
time
to
sit
with
you
and
your
staff
to
talk
through
bring
the
right
agencies
to
the
table
just
to
talk
through
some
of
the
concerns,
we're
definitely
hearing
them
and
I.
Think
the
Commission,
the
chief
had
some
some
responses.
I,
don't
think
you
know
I
think
it's
an
ongoing
conversation.
So
we
would
welcome
that
that
dialogue,
so
we
can
really
kind
of
bring
you
up
to
speed
on
kind
of
the
efforts
what
that
are
being
undertaken
relative
to
okay,.
P
I
mean
I
think
that's
it
for
me,
I
may
have
some
additional
questions.
That
was
the
thing
that
was
most
pressing
for
me
is
really
understanding
the
Mel
Nia
Kass
situation,
obviously
I
think
preserving
our
tree.
Canopies
across
the
city
are
very
important
in
terms
of
the
quality
of
life
issues
and
our
air
quality,
and
want
to
support
the
efforts
of
the
council
and
the
administration,
as
well
as
the
advocates
and
doing
as
much
as
we
can
to
preserve
that.
So
I
think
I
will
pause
for
now
and
perhaps.
I
We
can
serve
I
will
say
just
one
thing
on
the
ongoing
maintenance
and,
as
we
look
at
you
know,
public
parcels
of
land
that
have
large
green
space
and
stuff
like
that.
We're
always
there's
public-private
partnerships,
particularly
from
new
development,
that
we
can
create
we're
always
kind
of
evaluating
that
when
projects
are
coming
so,
as
you
know,
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
that
corridor,
potentially
for
future
development.
So
I
think
that's
one
area
where
there
could
be
a
lot
of
synergy.
Okay,
Thank.
A
You
counselor
Janie
I
just
had
a
couple
follow-up
questions
as
well,
so
Jill
you
had
I.
Could
you
go
back
for
a
second
I?
Wasn't
sure
I
was
following
closely
enough.
You
said
that
there's
no
specific
policy
now
that
the
BPD
a
has
around
trees
or
what
were
you
referring
to
Route?
You
said
there
was
no
specific
policy
around
tree
removal
or
there.
K
When
a
project
is
brought
forth
and
we
recognize
that
it's
difficult
for
them
to
work
around
a
tree,
there's
no
specific
policy
with
regard
to
how
many
trees
we
ask
to
replace
the
existing
tree.
Typically
I
follow
the
parks
department
standard
for
public
street
tree
removals,
so
they
have
a
an
equation
for
the
number
of
inches
of
caliper
determines
the
number
of
replacement
trees.
That's
generally
my
rule
of
thumb,
but
I
would
say
no
less
than
two
replacing
you
know,
even
as
the
smallest
tree
so
like.
K
A
K
The
BPD,
a
the
urban
design
staff,
has
to
stamp
and
sign
drawings
for
them
to
proceed
to
ISD
to
get
permits.
So
the
landscape
plans
are
always
a
part
of
that
set
I,
don't
stamp
and
sign,
but
Michael
does,
and
we
obviously
work
very
closely
together.
So
I
will
review
the
plans
and
assert
to
him
that
it
meets
kind
of
a
minimum
standard
that
we've
kind
of
come
up
with
again
anecdotally
in
our
staff
and
I'm
the
only
again
I'm
the
only
landscape
architects.
A
J
When
we
approve
a
set
of
plans,
we
also
attach
a
set
of
provisos.
Usually
so
we
would
have
a
list
of
say
they
need
to
submit
all
the
signage
for
business
to
us
for
review
we
would
put
in
the
standards.
The
minimum
size
of
the
tree
has
to
be
three
to
three
and
a
half
inches
caliper.
If
there's
cases
where
they're
removing
a
lot
of
trees,
we
can
add
provides
those
that
they
need
to
add
to
trees
for
every
tree.
A
We're
now
coming
down
me,
then
frantically
calling
BPD
and
other
was
to
find
out
what
had
happened.
And
now
we
hear
through
the
grapevine
that
the
developer
actually
is
punishing
the
neighborhood,
because
we
put
him
through
the
embarrassment
of
that
he's,
not
making
any
progress
on
that
project
now.
So
it's
just
been
sitting
unfinished
for
a
very
long
time
now,
because
of
that
conversation
about
the
trees
and
that
I
dared
to
walk
over
there
and
talk
to
the
VP
day,
etc.
A
So
there's
a
lot
of
emotion
attached
to
trees
and
it
feels
that
there's
not
a
mechanism
for
abutters
or
neighbors
to
have
any
input
into.
If
it's
really
just
one
person
making
a
decision
it
feels
like
there
might
be
a
way
for
you
to
hear
from
some
neighbors
and
then
you
could
set
a
different
requirement
after
you,
after
you've
done
so
so.
I
Through
the
developer
review
process,
we
obviously
conduct
we
go
and
do
public
meetings
and
and
obviously
neighborhoods
advocacy
on
certain.
You
know.
Sometimes
it's
tree.
Sometimes
it's
public
realm,
sometimes
it's
height
density.
You
know
when
the
project
manager
in
front
of
a
is
it.
It
is
running
a
public
meeting
kind
of
evaluating
these
things.
These
things
are
brought
up.
We
really
try
to
make
sure
that
the
developer
is
engaging
these
residents
to
try
to
address
some
of
these
concerns
as
a
relay.
I
I
The
you
know,
through
the
abutters
meetings
and
stuff,
like
that,
that's
another
area
where
we
would
encourage
the
developers
to
really
engage
their
director
butters.
You
know
to
make
sure
in
their
neighbors
to
find
out
kind
of
what
are
the
specific
issues
that
they
can
work
on
throughout
the
process
to
try
to
get
some
consensus
relative
to
to
moving
the
project
forward.
You
know
some
developers
are
very,
as
you
know,
are
very
sensitive
to
this
and
really
want
to
work
in
getting
agree
with
their
neighbors
other
developers.
I
I
If
it's
early
design,
review
and
say
we're
hearing
from
community
residents
is
that
when
a
developer,
particularly
on
a
zoning
issue,
that's
not
gonna
be
going
in
front
of
our
board,
but
we
go
in
front
of
the
Zoning
Board
Appeals
that
day.
If
they
say
that
they're
gonna
put
a
tree
they
should.
You
should
make
sure
that
you
see
the
plans
to
show
that
tree
so
that,
what's
when
it's
in
front
of
it
becomes
a
part
of
the
approved
plan,
that's
in
front
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals,
so
I
mean
we.
I
You
know
I
think
we
try
to
evaluate
what
are
the
issues
relative
to
specific
projects
and
really
try
to
push
the
developers
to
try
to
address
those
in
certain
instances.
You
know
a
tree
might
be
in
the
middle
of
the
the
property
and
it
really
is
difficult
to
to
save,
but
then
we'd
ask
them
to
start
over.
Like
you
know,
how
are
you
gonna
try
to
mitigate
that
relative
to
the
overall
project
right.
A
J
Just
to
add
to
that
we
often
don't
hear
from
the
neighbors
we
do
hear
from
the
developers,
so
we
offer
would
encourage
and
welcome
if
the
neighbors
would
contact
us
and
least
let
us
know
what
the
issues
are.
The
design
review
portion
of
the
GBA
cases
is
basically
between
us
and
the
applicant,
and
but
we
would
certainly
welcome
comments.
They
can
email
us,
they
can
send
us
a
letter.
They
can
do
so.
We
understand
what
the
issues
are.
The
neighbors
have
on
that
particular
project.
So
could.
A
J
Right,
so
it's
usually
a
proviso
that
the
Board
of
Appeals
will
put
on
a
particular
case
that
they
would
want
us
to
do
a
design
review,
and
mainly
it's
because
they're
concerned
about,
what's
being
proposed
and
making
sure
that
it
fits
into
the
overall
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
street.
Right.
A
Now,
the
agency,
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
the
agency
has
almost
total
control
in
terms
of
telling
the
developer
what
they
need
to
do
to
replace
any
trees
that
are
being
affected
and
right.
We're
sort
of
waiting
to
see
if
anyone
reaches
out
from
the
community
to
give
feedback
on
that.
But
right.
If,
for
example
like
we
counselors
hear
their
concerns,
and
we
call
Jill
that
you
could
ask
the
developer
to
do
more
than
you.
K
I
Was
also
just
encouraged,
obviously,
from
a
you
know,
you
guys
to
contact
the
developers,
obviously
through
all
and
ask
to
to
have
them
contact
them
for
their
running
the
meetings
that,
if
you
know
if
the
tree
is
the
issue,
you
know
the
developer
should
be
responsive
to
that
issue
to
try
to
mitigate
the
best
they
can
I.
Think,
like
I
said
from
article
80
perspective,
we
have
a
lot
more
purview
because
we're
running
the
process
when
it
gets
in
his
owning
board
of
appeals.
I
That
is
a
little
bit
of
a
gray
area,
but
you
know
we're
always
available
if
there
is
specific
projects
that
you're
hearing
on
you
know,
particularly
around
trees
or
open
space,
you
know,
and
you
on
a
flag
for
us
where
we
want
happy
to
look
into
it
and
contact
the
the
architect
or
the
developer
to
talk
through
it.
Understanding.
K
I
just
also
add,
there's
a
number
of
Azra
I
live
in
Roslindale,
also
and
there's
a
number
of
as
array
projects
there
that
I'm
surprised
when
I,
walk
or
drive
or
bike
by
that
trees
have
gone
because
I
wasn't
aware
that
it
there
was
even
a
project
happening
there.
So
I
mean
I,
understand
the
concern.
Certainly,
but
when
there's
a
Nazarite
situation,
I
don't
have
a
role
to
play.
A
And
that's
where
some
of
the
changes
that
council
work
are
the
excitement?
Okay,
sorry
I
did
take
over
on
this
one
subject,
the
other
related
to,
but
small
piece
that
I
had
on
this
was
that
in
the
cases
where
I've
been
part
of
meetings
with
the
developers
engaging
with
about
errs
and
kind
of
sort
of
negotiating,
around
trees,
etc.
Often
we
will
be
told
oh
I
did
an
independent
study.
We
had
a
our
own
Landscape,
Architect
or
tree
consultant
come
out.
K
Usually
I
will
ask
for
the
report
and
then
ask
if
I
can
you
know,
call
and
talk
to
the
arborist
about
the
assessment
that
they've
made,
because
a
landscape
architect
wouldn't
make
an
assessment.
It
would
be
an
arborist.
So
if
it's
just
a
landscape
architect
making
the
assessment,
then
I
would
ask
for
an
arborist
assessment
as
as
a
follow-up,
and
that
has
happened
in
the
past,
where
you
know
there's
a
little
bit
of
missa,
miscommunication
or
misunderstanding
about.
You
know
who
the
experts
are
and
who
can
actually
make
those
those
qualifying
statement.
I
B
Just
quick
I
know
this
couple:
people
want
to
speak,
so
I
don't
want
to
take
up
their
time.
I.
Think
I,
don't
have
any
more
questions
really,
but
just
a
closing
statement
for
me
would
be
you
know.
Obviously
we
it
sounds
like
we
need
a
better
policy
for
before,
during
and
after
projects,
we
need
to
have
public
works
at
the
table,
because
I
think,
as
chief
cook
alluded
to
I'm
a
huge
supporter
of
the
rubberized
sidewalks
in
and
around
for
those
of
people
who
don't
know
haven't
seen
them
in
the
neighborhood.
B
You
know
in
your
regular
street
tree
pit
they
kind
of
dig
down
about
an
inch
or
two,
and
then
they
pour
this
in
hot.
It
comes
in
its
it
pours
in
hot
and
it
ends
up.
Looking
like
a
rice,
krispies
treat
that's
really
what
it
looks
like.
So
the
water
goes
right
through
the
rice,
krispie
treat
and
then,
as
the
tree
grows,
the
IRS
will
come
out
and
just
cut
that
circle
around
the
rice,
krispies
treat
a
little
bigger,
a
little
bigger,
a
little
bigger.
B
It
gets
plenty
of
water,
so
the
roots
don't
come
to
the
surface
and
don't
wreck
the
sidewalks.
It's
also
a
VA
compliant.
So
if
the
sidewalk
is
a
little
bit
skinnier
than
a
normal
sidewalk,
we
could
still
roll
a
wheelchair
over
or
roll
a
carriage
over
there's
a
couple
of
them
outside
of
Blackstone
Park.
So
we
want
to
take
a
look
at
him
when
I
was
in
the
parks,
public
correspondent,
we
put
them
out
there,
I've
checked
them
and
they're
still
in
great
shape.
B
So
I
think
we
should
be
pushing
that
in
in
a
big
big
way
and
then
I
think
for
me
anyway,
I
mean
obviously
Greg
Mossman
does
a
great
job
that
Fox
bond,
but
he
runs
around
like
a
crazy
person.
He
can't
possibly
but
1600
miles
of
sidewalk
and
all
of
our
parks.
He
can't
possibly
do
the
job
all
by
himself,
so
you
know
we
may
have
to
look
at
some.
B
You
know
little
people,
power
might
might
be
in
order
here
as
well
and
then
for
me
personally,
my
action
items
would
really
simple:
I'm
gonna
put
together
and
pull
apart.
All
of
the
information
that
I
have
here
kind
of
put
together
one
a
one-pager
or
maybe
a
two
pager
bullet
items
that
I
think
from
local
towns,
local
communities,
cities
or
even
other
states
have
to
make
to
make
Boston
have
the
most
solid
policy
regarding
removal
of
trees,
planting
of
trees
restock
that
the
private
tree
fund
I
never
knew
why
that
went
away.
B
I
think
it
would
be
an
outstanding
and
outstanding,
sell
and
I.
Don't
think
it
would
be
tough
to
sell
to
the
people
of
Boston.
You
want
a
free
tree
in
a
yard.
Sign
up
here.
I
think
you
need
a
lot
of
people
signing
up
there,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
that
to
the
light,
our
review
and
I
think
this
is
kind
of
a
perfect
timing.
P
P
As
a
councillor
was
pushing
for
some
things
and
there
was
just
a
concern
and
I
don't
know,
I
mean
there
could
be
a
value
statement
or
a
policy
already
in
place,
but
it
was
just
it
felt
like
a
disconnect.
So
I
just
wanted
to
lift
that
up
here
to
understand
what
you
guys
are
saying
to
developers
around
what
is
important
when
it
comes
to
development
in
the
city
of
Boston,
whether
we're
talking
about
tree
canopies,
which
is
the
purpose
of
this
here.
You're
hearing
or
you
know
other
important
things
that
I
think
I.
P
I
I
Accessibility,
Complete
Streets,
a
lot
of
those
those
we
have
very
specific
guidelines
or
not
kind
of
what
we
want
to
see
around
accessibility
and
stuff
like
I,
think
trees
is
the
area
that
you
know
the
city
when
it's
on
a
when
a
tree
is
on
a
public
right-of-way.
There
is
some
guidelines
as
it
relates
to
that
I
think
when
it
gets
into
the
kind
of
removal
of
trees
on
private
property.
That's
where
we
could
definitely
do
some
work
and
some
collaboration
I
think
from
a
public
realm
perspective.
I
There
is
a
pretty
you
know:
there's
a
lot
of
set
of
sets
of
guidelines
that
we
kind
of
work
through
the
Alexander
was
unique
one,
obviously,
because
there's
a
bus,
the
bus
stop
is
directly
outside
the
site,
which
made
this
a
little
bit
more
challenging
conversation
when
you're
and
the
site
is
restricted
in
the
fact
that
they're
keeping
the
existing
building
and
kind
of
building
behind
so
the
public
realm
is
somewhat
limited.
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
on
Michael.
Just
add
like
big
picture.
I
think
trees
is
an
area
that
we
feel
like.
I
J
If
anything,
then
there's
usually
a
light
pole
in
the
middle
of
that
of
that
3-foot,
narrow
sidewalk,
so
Jill
and
I
have
been
working
with
Commission
on
disabilities
on
this
issue
in
I'm.
Just
using
South
Boston
is
an
example
to
make
sure
that
we
get
an
adequate
sidewalk,
but
for
any
project,
especially
the
large
and
small
projects.
The
public
realm
is
a
very
important
piece,
making
sure
that
the
sidewalks
are
wide,
that
they
have
adequate
Street
trees,
that
surface
materials.
So
that's
a
very
important.
K
Piece
and
over
the
last
five
years
or
so
I've
gotten
into
the
weeds
on
design
process,
Parks
Department
has
a
separate
design
process.
Certainly
BTD
and
DPW
are
looking
at
it
from
a
different
perspective.
I
work
with
disabilities,
Commission
with
historic
commissions
I,
have
a
very
deep
understanding
of
what
all
those
design
processes
are
and
what
the
expectations
are
coming
out
of
those.
K
So
we
try
to
front-load
all
of
that
with
developers
to
help
them
really
understand
what
the
expectations
are
out
there
as
they
move
from
our
process
into
these
other
design,
review
processes
and
that
all
culminates
and
the
public
Improvement
Commission
again
and
I
make
comment
to
that.
So
Amy
cording
and
Todd
liming
who
head
up
that
effort.
They
really
looked
to
me
to
make
sure
that
what's
being
proposed
for
development
is
going
to
gel
with
what
is
expected
at
the
end
of
the
pse
process.
So
we
work
really
closely
together.
K
We
talk
often
we've
actually
instituted
I,
think
a
bimonthly
meeting
to
start
talking
about
projects
that
are
problematic,
I
agree
with
Mike.
We
can
certainly
do
better
around
trees,
but
we
are
also
trying
to
balance
a
lot
of
other
policy
issues
with
regard
to
you
know:
adding
bike
facilities
and
improving
accessibility
around
the
city.
So
there's
a
lot
of
competing
interest
for
our
very
narrow
rights
of
way
and
I'm
speaking
as
loudly
and
as
often
as
I
can
for
the
trees.
I
can't
say
that
I
always
win,
especially
when
it
comes
to
other
important
I.
K
Think
Mel.
Nia
Kass
is
a
good
example.
The
bike
facilities
there
I
think
will
be
transformative
for
the
city.
We
really
are
working
hard
and
understand
the
goals
from
BTD
and
DPW
about
mobility
balance,
and
in
this
case
the
trees
unfortunately
are
going
to
lose
out.
But
I
do
I
want
to
echo
what
she
cooks
at
about.
K
You
know
existing
trees
versus
future
kind
of
ability
to
get
around
the
city
in
an
equitable
way.
So
I,
just
can't
stress
enough
I
mean
I've
reached
out
to
everybody
who
does
Design
Review
in
the
city
to
understand
what
they
want,
so
that
we
can
really
work
hard
with
developers
to
get
the
city
the
best
possible
projects
that
are
really
meeting
the
needs
of
the
city
and
really
doing
well
by
the
the
public
realm
in
the
city,
because
that's
all
I
work
on
okay.
Thank.
P
You
I'm
one
other
question:
you
mentioned,
sir,
that
you
don't
hear
from
the
public.
The
residents
in
these
processes
and
I'm
want
to
put
that
question
back
out
to
you.
What
can
you
do
to
improve
or
create
a
platform
to
then
hear
from
residents
in
the
public
I'd
like
it?
So
if
you're
only
hearing
from
developers,
I
think
that's
problematic
and
so
I.
This
gentleman
I.
I
Think
he
was
just
talking
through
when
he's
doing
dealing
with
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals
Design
Review,
it's
the
developer
after
they
go
through
get
their
approval,
has
to
come
to
us,
so
they
they
basically
the
as
the
process
works,
its
developer
and
the
design
reviewer.
So
I
think
us
understanding.
When
they're,
when
our
urban
design
team
is
reviewing
plans,
what
are
some
of
the
major
issues
that
were
happening?
This
is
more
from
a
zba
perspective.
I
So
if
we're
hearing
from
counsel's
office
mayor's
office
neighborhood
services
directly
from
residents
that
can
help
us
when
they're,
just
dealing
with
the
developer
and
say
hey,
you
know
was
this:
this
was
something
that
I
got
flagged
for
me
and
your
plans
aren't
showing
it.
You
know.
I
can't
sign
off
on
this
until
I
know,
you've
met
that
so
I
think
that's
yes,.
J
P
P
E
I
Don't
ever
want
to
hear
we
only
hear
from
the
Syrian
people
the
design
review,
you
know,
approve
a
design
review.
I.
Think
that
should
not
you
know.
You
should
just
know
that
that
triggers
our
review,
so
you
should
always
feel
comfortable
reaching
out
to
say:
hey
I
spoke
in
favor
of
this
project,
but
one
of
the
things
they
committed
to
was
X
exam
and
I
need
to
make
sure
that
that's
exactly.
P
I
That
that
and
we're
all
we
welcome
those
conversations,
because
the
last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
have
something
get
through
the
process.
Then
you
know
once
it
starts
going
on
people
like.
Oh,
you
didn't
do
X
and
then
we're
cut,
and
then
all
of
us
are
in
a
tough
way.
So
the
more
you
know
collaboration
we
can
have
on
the
front
and
the
better.
So.
P
A
You
councillor
Janey,
before
we
move
fully
to
pub
the
rest
of
public
testimony,
the
one
to
three
folks
who
have
been
so
patient.
Thank
you,
I
wonder
if
you
could
just
give
a
quick
reaction
to
the
chart
that
Miss
Blair
had
put
together
around
this
one,
two,
three,
four,
five:
six,
seven
projects.
Do
you
have
a
copy?
No.
A
Just
to
read
out
Kane
brothers
came
here
to
read
off
the
addresses
in
the
these
are
all
in
the
Claremont
Chester
Square
neighborhoods
150
Camden
Street
527
Mass
Ave
Li
HC
on
Wooster
Street,
Northampton
Street
in
Newcastle
saranac
at
the
southwest
corner
park,
harriet
tubman
house
7,
7
th,
ere,
Mont
Street
in
Alexandra
hotel.
According
to
this
chart,
79
percent
of
the
trees
on
the
area
are
likely
to
be
lost
or
damaged
by
development,
and
many
of
these
are
be
PDA
involved
projects.
I
didn't
know.
If
you
had
a
reaction.
I
Just
getting
this
I
would
maybe
take
a
little
time
to
review
it
just
before
we
officially
responded,
because
there
could
be
a
lot
of
nuances
within
the
projects
of
what
they're
doing
you
know.
I
know
some
of
these
are
still
under
review.
Some
of
them
are
approved,
so
I
would
I
would
want
to
take
a
minute
and
we'd
welcome
to
sit
with
the
residents
to
talk
through
some
of
us,
better
understand,
kind
of
their
concern
and
how
we
can
be
helpful
to
the
hotel
review
process.
B
I
just
think
some
of
the
through
the
chair,
I
think
some
of
the
issue
that
we're
having
is
the
whole
as
of
right
tree
removal.
You
know
we
might
want
to
take
a
look
at
that
and
see
you
know,
I,
don't
know
if
we
can,
as
the
city
put
an
ordinance
in,
but
at
least
we
can
get
to
some
of
these
developers
and
say
you
know
before
you
decide
to,
we
can
make
it
more
difficult
for
people
to
build
if
they
clear-cut
lots
and
I
think
the
message
has
to
just
kind
of
be
sent
out.
B
There.
I've
got
another
one
on
readville,
Street,
the
corner
of
evil
and
lots
of
valley.
Parkway
he's
gonna,
build
a
single
and
a
double
as
of
right
kind
of
talk
to
the
developer.
Look
through
thing,
Lorax,
everything's
gone
and
now
we're
waiting.
I
think
he
triggered
something.
I
was
I,
think
he
worked
on
a
holiday,
something
so
I
think
the
ist
is
kind
of
sticking
it
to
him
as
far
as
the
continuance,
but
it
still
comes
back
to
you
know
he
clear-cut
the
lot
and
I
think
developers
just
need
to
know
that
Boston
cares.
B
I
Yeah,
we're
maybe
for
the
working
system,
use
this
as
a
case
study,
because
I'm
like
most
of
these,
you
know,
Alexander
I
know,
has
its
zoning.
The
rest
of
them
are
still
kind
of
still
in
the
under
review
stage,
so
this
might
be
a
good
chart
to
kind
of
work
through
to
see
how
we
and
we
could,
even
you
know,
pull
up
plans
to
show
you
how
we
really
evaluate
things
from
the
beginning.
To
the
end,
that's
helpful
that.
A
Would
be
so
helpful
and
if
you
could
keep
us
in
the
loop
on
any
follow
up
just
the
80%
number
80%
trees
like
may
be
lost
by
projects
that
the
city
has
direct
feedback
on
seems
painful.
So,
but
we
support
all
of
your
work.
We
just
want
to
give
you
more
teeth
and
authority
to
do
it
and
again
it's
it's
across
every
neighborhood
now.
So
that's
all
for
councillor
questions.
There
are
three
folks
left
to
testify.
A
I
Q
Councillor
McCarthy
councillor
woo
councillor,
Janey,
I'm,
Ken,
crook,
Meyer
I,
moved
into
the
South
End
52
years
ago,
and
my
kids,
who
went
to
Boston
Public
Schools,
named
the
to
start
up
trees
that
were
volunteers
in
our
backyard.
George
and
Martha.
Some
other
trees
have
come
and
gone,
but
Martha
and
George
have
grown
taller
than
the
five
storey
row
house
that
we
live
in.
Q
George
is
unwell
and
I'm
gonna
have
to
take
George
down
because
George
is
dying.
I
tell
you
this
story,
because
I
I
care
about
trees,
there's
a
tree
out
in
front
of
my
house.
Trees
have
changed
over
the
generation
more
than
generation
that
I've
lived
there
and
I
want
to
get
into
the
real
purpose
of
this
hearing.
Q
In
both
cases,
there
are
implications
that
go
to
in
Melanie's
case
the
private
adjacent
property
and
the
folks
who
live
there
and
in
the
Wooster
Street
the
folks
who
are
on
the
street
and
who
live
in
the
south
end.
And
so
we
have
a
question
of
how
do
we
balance
these
things?
There
are
both
laws
and
guidelines
that
try
to
establish
zoning.
Q
They
try
to
tell
you
what
you
should
do
and
those
guidelines
very
frequently
set
up
alternatives
in
the
case
of
the
bikeways,
for
instance,
on
melny
a
caste,
our
different
ways
of
doing
bike,
ways,
and
so
an
engineer,
a
planner
will
choose
among
those
alternatives
to
try
to
come
up
with
the
right
answer.
If
everybody
always
came
up
with
the
right
answer,
on
public
property
and
on
private
property,
we'd
all
be
happy,
and
we
wouldn't
worry
about
changing
these
things.
Q
To
put
this
building
on
it,
what
do
we
do
about
this
kind
of
a
very
difficult
conundrum
of
public
policy
and
I
would
suggest
that
you
look
at
section
4,
F
of
the
federal
highway
administration's
guidelines
for
roadways
that
are
now
part
of
the
National
Environmental
Policy
Act,
and
which
establish
what
can
be
done
with
respect
to
highways
on
parks
and
Nach
and
historic
sites.
And
if
we
try
to
apply
that
to
this
question
of
trees
on
private
land,
we
might
realize
that
the
words
that
are
in
that
regulation
that
it
cannot
be
you.
Q
Q
Then
it
requires
that
the
project
reclue
include
all
possible
planning
to
minimize
harm,
and
so,
if
we
thought
of
that
in
terms
of
trees
on
private
parcels,
if
we
thought
that
you
couldn't
approve
the
project,
unless
the
developer
had
really
looked
at
all
possible
ways
of
avoiding
cutting
those
trees
and
if
it
was
determined
that
he
couldn't
build
something
that
was
as
of
right,
he
had
then
could
proceed,
but
only
under
the
condition
that
all
possible
planning
was
done
to
minimize
harm.
So
that's
alternative
trees.
That's
moving
the
buildings
around
having
this
footprint.
Q
Rather
than
that
foot
footprint.
You
might
come
up
with
a
strategy
that
protected
the
trees
in
the
city
of
Boston
in
a
way
that
is
not
so
dissimilar
to
the
way.
At
a
national
level,
we've
determined
that
public
parks
should
be
protected
from
highways.
So
I
suggest
that
as
a
strategy
that
might
be
thought
about,
I
would
love
to
answer
more
questions
of
councillor
Jani
about
Mel
Nia
Cass.
Q
R
R
As
dahveed
from
speak
for
the
trees
mentioned.
Professor,
the
video
professor
and
I,
heard
her
speak
a
couple
years
ago.
It's
this.
The
most
important
issue
is
preserving
what
we
have
it:
some
mature
shade
trees
that
are
30
years
old,
15
feet
high.
Those
are
the
ones
that
are
influencing
the
climate
and
the
replacement
value
for
new
trees
is
not
first
of
all.
That's
not
really
working
very
well
right
now
either,
but
young
trees
have
a
very
hard
time
surviving
in
the
urban
environment.
R
Chief
Cook
said
that
directly
today,
it's
it's
sort
of
like
children,
there's
so
many
toxic
environment
factors
in
the
city
that
and
like
children,
young
trees
are
much
more
vulnerable
to
those
factors,
so
they
don't
survive
and
we've
all
seen
it.
We've
seen
those
sidewalk
trees
being
replaced
year
after
year.
You,
despite
warranties
and
and
each
tree,
is
at
least
$1,000,
and
it
really
is
a
waste
of
money.
R
One
and
I
think
this
is
very
valuable
that
councillor
McCarthy
is
studying
what
other
cities
and
towns
are
doing.
I
was
involved
with
the
urban
forestry
coalition
that
BNA
n
set
up
a
few
years
ago,
and
they
went
far
afield
and
studied
what
you
know:
DC
Seattle
California,
even
Tucson,
was
doing,
and
the
replacement
value
was
not
two
for
one
for
every
tree.
R
It
depended
on
the
caliber
of
tree
that
was
being
lost
and
so,
for
example,
if
you
have
a
tree
with
a
diameter
of
breast
height,
that's
how
they
arborist
measure
them
of
more
than
18
inches.
The
replacement
value
was
supposed
to
be
five
to
one.
This
is
from
Seattle
five
to
one
okay,
the
inventory
of
the
trees
of
Melnik
ass
and
BTD,
and
MassDOT
hired
a
state
arborist
to
do
the
work
he
inventoried
over
five
hundred
trees.
More
than
a
hundred
and
thirty
of
those
trees
have
calibers
of
more
than
eighteen
inches.
R
That
means,
and
most
of
those
trees
are
going
to
impacted
by
the
excavation.
So
it's
not
just
the
trees
that
they've
already
said
are
going
to
be
cut
down.
It's
the
trees
whose
critical
root
zones
are
being
impacted
because
the
city
did
pay
for
a
landscape
architect
to
do
that
study
and
he
said
258
trees
are
being
affected.
So
if
you
have
a
ratio
of
five
to
one
for
the
loss
of
a
hundred
and
twenty
trees,
you're
talking
five
hundred
trees,
you're,
not
talking
200
so
and
that's
just
those
trees,
those
larger
trees.
R
So
we're
we're
really
have
to
focus
on
tree
canopy,
but
we
have
to
focus
it
to
data.
That
shows,
where
are
people
being
impacted,
the
most
and
they're
being
impacted
the
most,
where
you're
getting
that
new
development?
That's
paving
over
green
space
and
where
the
city
has
already
said,
there's
heat
island
issues,
and
that
includes
Roxbury.
That
includes
South
Boston,
where
there's
very
few
trees
and
potentially
other
areas,
but
I'm
encouraged
by
the
idea
that
there's
going
to
be
a
new
urban
forest
management
plan
and
I'm
encouraged
by
hearing
about
working
zone
sessions.
R
S
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Maureen
Lannon
and
I
live
in
Jamaica,
Plain
and
I
recently
read
the
Boston,
carbon-free
Boston
report
and
I'm
very
interested
in
the
heat
island
issue
and
trees.
Obviously,
we've
heard
so
many
wonderful
things
about
the
trees,
because
we
need
to
intensify
the
building
of
residential
places
near
our
work
sites.
It's
unrealistic
in
to
some
extent
to
be
able
to
expect
to
have
the
the
land
in
order
to
replace
or
retain
our
tree
canopy
as
much
as
as
much
as
we
want
to
and
just
sort
of
in.
S
Looking
at
these
reports
and
thinking
about
it,
there
are
some
services
that
the
trees
provide
that
such
as
cooling
such
as
adding
water
to
the
ground
that
we
can
mitigate
with
our
buildings
and
the
type
of
material
that
we
use
on
the
roofs
of
the
buildings,
as
well
as
the
type
of
materials
that
we
use
to
pave
the
roads
or
parking
lots.
We
have
authority
or
someone
has.
S
Right
now
to
mitigate
the
heat
island
effect
with
cool
surfaces,
but
I
would
really
strongly
encourage
this
as
as
part
of
the
mix
when
we're
looking
at
these
old
trees
and
we're
trying
to
put
in
place
near-term
your
three
to
five
year
benefits,
we
can
calculate
some
of
those
benefits
and
could
come
from
having
a
certain
length
of
roadway,
that's
paved
with
a
light
color
and
a
porous
material,
and
that
would
add
some
flexibility
in
terms
of
the
types
of
responses
we
we
have
on
our
plate.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
Want
to
thank
everybody
for
coming
here.
I
want
to
thank
the
panel
for
being
here
and
clearly
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
I
know
that
one
of
the
previous
speakers
had
mentioned
seattle.
I
know
that
Oregon
just
came
out
with
another
ordnance
package
and
they're,
getting
very
aggressive,
so
I
haven't
read
that
one
yet
so
I
will
before
the
next
airing
well
before
the
next
working
session
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
everyone,
just
one
step
in
the
right
direction.
Thank.
A
A
You
so
we'll
look
forward
to
setting
a
date
for
the
working
session
to
continue
the
conversation,
and
this
will
conclude
the
hearing
on
docket
number
one:
zero,
four,
five
order
for
a
hearing
regarding
the
expansion
of
city
development
requirements,
with
a
focus
on
achieving
baseline
tree
preservation
and
total
tree
capacity
on
a
development
site.
This
hearing
is
adjourned.