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Planning, Development & Transportation Hearing- Docket #0864- Message and order for your approval of the receipt of a Preservation Restriction on Hayden Building, 681-683 Washington Street, Boston, Massachusetts, 02111-1611
A
B
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Frank
Baker
I'm,
the
the
chair
of
the
city
of
City
council's
committee
on
Planning,
Development
and
transportation.
Today's
hearing
is
dark
at
zero.
Eight
six
four
today
is
July
18th
to
2
p.m.
I
want
to
remind
you.
This
is
a
public
hearing
and
being
recorded
and
broadcast
live
on
Xfinity
8,
RCN,
82,
FiOS,
964
and
streamed
on
www.austin.gov
City,
Dash,
Council,
Dash
TV
nobody's
here,
but
please
silence
your
cell
phones.
That
includes
us
we'll
also
take
public
testimony.
B
If
there's
any
here
after
and
this
matter
response
by
the
mayor,
Michelle
wounds
referred
to
committee
on
Planning
Development
Transportation
on
May
3rd
doc
at
zero.
Eight
six
four
is
a
message
in
order
for
your
approval
of
the
receipt
of
a
preservation
restriction
on
Hayden
building,
681-683
Washington
Street
Boston
Mass.
B
A
I
don't
and
thank
you
for
being
here
today,
I'm
interested
in
hearing
about
this
project
and
and
just
a
little
bit
of
the
history
of
the
building.
It
looks
really
impressive.
Thank.
B
C
Portage
I'm,
the
director
of
design
review
for
the
landmarks
commission
and
I've
been
working
with
historic
Boston,
the
current
owner
of
this
property,
who
will
be
selling
it
and
they're
going
to
sell
it
subject
to
a
private
preservation
restriction
agreement
and
the
reason
that
we're
here
today
and
again.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
In
order
for
this
preservation
restriction
agreement
to
be
Perpetual,
which
means
it'll
be
binding
on
all
future
owners,
it
has
to
have
the
approval
of
the
Massachusetts
historic
commission,
as
well
as
the
city
of
Boston,.
B
C
No,
no
problem
and
I'm
sure
you're
interested
in
seeing
the
building.
So
if
we
go
to
the
the
first
slide
here,
if
we
can
there,
we
go
the
location
of
the
building
681
to
683.
Washington
Street
is
on
the
corner
of
LaGrange
and
Washington
Street
in
Chinatown,
and
we
go
to
the
next
image
please.
C
This
is
what
the
building
looks
like
today,
which
remarkably,
is
very
much
what
it
looked
like
when
it
was
constructed
in
1875,
and
this
building
is
very
significant
in
that
it
is
a
Survivor
from
1875
and
it
was
designed
by
Henry,
Hobson
Richardson,
and
that
name
may
be
familiar
to
you.
He
was
also
the
architect
of
Trinity
Church
in
Copley
Square
and
this
five-story
commercial
building
any
textbook
for
architectural
history.
This
building
is
included.
C
It's
considered
by
many,
the
precursor
of
the
modern
skyscraper
and
Henry
Hopson
Richardson
would
go
on
to
design
buildings
in
Chicago.
The
Marshall
field.
Wholesale
store,
is
one
of
his
most
famous
National
buildings,
but
this
the
Hayden
building,
predates
that
this
building
was
designated
a
Boston
landmark
in
1977.
in
1985.
It
had
a
devastating
fire
and
it
was
at
that
time
that
historic
Boston
became
involved.
They
purchased
the
building
rehabilitated
it.
B
Okay,
precursor
the
high-rise.
Why
is
that
a
sort
of
something
structurally
there
that
that
gives
us
the
precursor?
It's.
C
It's
more
the
the
base,
the
middle
and
the
the
top,
and
that,
if
you
look
at
this
image
here
in
a
much
smaller
scale
of
what
you
would
see
in
a
modern
skyscraper
now,
the
main
difference
is
this
is
a
totally
masonry
building
and
the
skyscrapers
of
today
would
be
steel
framed.
B
Yeah,
yeah,
beautiful
and
so
who
is
who
is
going
to
buy
this
building
from
historic
Boston?
That.
C
I
don't
know,
and
whoever
is
the
buyer
of
it
will
be
subject
to
these
preservation
restrictions
and
the
preservation
restrictions,
don't
control
use,
but
they
do
control
changes
to
the
exterior
which
mirror
the
same
protection
that
the
Boston
landmarks
commission
has
as
a
designated.
So.
B
So
if
this
has
the
the
historic
designation
it's
inside
and
outside
just.
C
B
C
B
And
there's
no
sort
of
having
the
historic,
designation,
there's
no
sort
of
tax
incentive
or
tax
break
that
that
or
they
may
be
going
after
tax
credits
having
this.
So
it's
not
a
hit
to
the
city
of
Boston.
C
If
not
not
a
hit
to
the
city
of
Boston
all
there,
there
could
be
a
in
general
for
preservation
restriction
agreements.
C
There
can
be
a
federal
tax
deduction
if
a
property
owner
can
claim
a
loss
of
value
and
what
they
would
need
to
do
would
be
to
have
an
appraisal
of
the
property
without
restrictions
and
then
appraisal
of
the
property
with
the
restrictions
and
whatever
the
difference
would
be.
If
there
is
one
that
could
be
a
potential
federal
tax
deduction
in
this
case,
because
there's
already
the
protection
offered
by
the
Boston
landmarks
commission,
you
really
couldn't
say:
there's
a
loss
of
value
of
this
property
by
donating
this
restriction.
B
And
it's
not
like
the
building
looks
like
it's
in
good
shape,
so
there's
no
need
now
for
us
to
for,
for
a
you
know,
to
refurbish
the
facade
or
anything
like
that.
At
this
point
it
looks
like
it's
a.
C
B
Oh,
so
it's
all
like
office
or
I
believe
so,
yes,
okay,
council,
do
you
have
questions
for
Joe
no.
A
It's
really
impressive
building
was
a
very
significant
history,
I'm
just
curious
for
anyone
who's
listening
just
when,
if,
if
how
does
a
what's
the
process
to
have
a
building
like
this
preserved,
so.
C
There
are
a
number
of
ways
you
can
reserve
a
building.
You
can
do
it
through
the
city
of
Boston.
Through
the
landmarking
process,
you
could
form
a
district
or
create
a
part
of
a
district,
or
if
you
find
a
preservation,
easement
holding
organizations
such
as
historic
Boston,
you
could
work
with
them.
They
hold
preservation
restrictions
on
other
properties,
so
you
could
work
with
them,
potentially
to
donate
a
preservation
restriction
to
Historic
Boston.
C
There
are
other
organizations,
historic
New,
England
is
another
organization
that
holds
preservation,
easements
and
not-for-profit
organization,
and
I
have
come
here
at
least
once
or
twice
I.
Think
with
other
properties.
I
think
there
were
two
properties
on
Beacon
Hill
that
we
worked
with
historic,
New
England
to
protect.
So
you
know
you
have
options
to
work
with
not-for-profit
organizations
such
as
historic,
Boston,
historic
New,
England
or
with
the
Boston
landmarks
commission.
A
C
C
Potentially
I
mean
they
could
change
floor
configuration
inside
again
with
this
particular
restriction.
Framing
members,
instructional
members
are
protected.
B
Okay
concert,
if
you
don't
have
any
any
closing
statements,
I
think
I
think
that
this
is
something
good
for
us
to
report
out
favorably
great,
thank
you.
Can
we
meet
tomorrow
and
we
can
oh
I
see
one
person
that
may
wanna.
D
B
D
B
D
Or
or
an
intention
to
preserve
it
could
be
anyone,
it
could
be
you.
The
point
is
that
they
will
have
an
obligation,
as
will
any
subsequent
owner
in
perpetuity
to
preserve
certain
aspects
of
the
building
and
and
also
in
the
event
that
they
aim
to
make
any
changes,
or
even
just
repairs
to
something
that
they
have.
Those
reviewed
by
historic,
Boston,
Inc,
the
holder
of
the
easement,
just
to
make
sure
everything
is
done
in
accordance
with
what
would
be
appropriate
for
a
historic.
A
B
My
understanding
is
there
any
tax
benefit
for
the
owner
to
have
this.
Is
it
does
this
allow
the
next
owner
and
subsequent
owners
to
go?
After
you
know,
history,
historic
tax,
unfortunately,.
D
There
is
not
there
is
for
the
the
donor
of
a
preservation
easement,
for
example,
if
we
were
a
tax
paying
organization
and
we
were
donating,
this
easement
yeah
a
tax
paying
entity
donating
the
easement
to
a
non-profit
like
historic,
Boston
I.
The
donor
could
take
or
get
a
deduction
on
their
Federal
Tax
Returns.
D
B
D
Unfortunately,
when
I
say,
unfortunately,
I
also
say
that,
in
that
subsequent
owners
do
not
get
a
benefit
for
abiding
by
the
easement
going
forward,
but
they
do
know
we
always
let
any
new
buyer
know
yeah,
that
they're
purchasing
a
property
that
has
these
obligations
attached
to
it
and
probably
another
little
tidbit
of
information.
Is
that
there's
already
a
historic
preservation
easement
on
the
property
that's
held
by
the
Massachusetts
historical
commission,
just
historic
Boston
is
a
much
more
active
owner.
We
partner,
we
like
to
say.
A
A
D
And
and
please
let
us
know
if
there's
ever
a
time
that
you
or
constituents
have
situations
that
they're
running
into
where
something
like
either
an
easement
or
other
preservation
activities,
historic
Boston.
Just
so
you
know
generally
redevelops
historic
buildings
that
are
endangered,
that
developers
can't
do
without
losing
their
shirts
or
basically
losing
money
that
we
exist
to
take
on
those
challenging
projects.
D
So,
and
we
work
all
over
the
municipality
So
within
the
bounds
of
the
city
of
Boston,
and
are
happy
to
take
a
look
at
just
about
anything
that
may
be
threatened
or
where
somebody's
really
just
looking
to
do
the
right
thing
and
can't
afford
it.
That
sort
of
thing.
D
They
comfort
kitchen
is
our
tenant.
D
On
everything,
yeah
yeah,
so
but
in
five
years
after
a
certain,
we
have
tax
credits
that
we
used
on
that
project
that
have
a
compliance
period
attached
to
it.
So
we
have
to
hold
for
five
years
in
that
Arrangement,
where
we're
the
owner
and
they're
the
tenant.
D
B
D
Guess,
if
not
average,
we
would
continue
to
let
them
be
a
tenant
if
they
want
to
be,
and
if,
for
some
reason
that
fails,
we
have
to
find
another
tenant.
Yeah.
D
Not
we
have
not
yet
put
an
easement
on
that,
but
we
will
yeah,
but
it's
also
a
Boston
Landmark
yeah.
It
sits
within
the
Dorchester
North
bearing
grounds.
B
D
Little
mini
District,
so
to
speak,
so
there
are
many
folks
keeping
an
eye
on
it
and
so
for
the
most
part
the
exterior
is
as.
B
D
Just
for
your
information,
by
the
way,
because
I
in
this
particular
easement
that
we're
talking
about
the
Hayden
building,
there's
very
little
on
the
inside
that
was
preserved
in
that
building
because
of
the
the
degree
to
which
it
had
degraded.
By
the
time
we
purchase
the
building,
but
easements
can
pertain
to
the
Interiors
of
buildings.
Just
generally
speaking,
it's
all
dependent
on
what
a
variety
of
things,
what
is
historically
left,
but
also
what
the
donor
wishes
to
so.
B
D
The
Hayden
building
was
built
by
the
estate
of
a
gentleman
named
Hayden,
but
it
just
so
happens
that
H.H
Richardson,
the
architect,
who
was
the
guy
who
designed
Trinity,
Church
and.
B
D
Sort
of
thing
Hayden
was
his
father-in-law,
so
he
built
it
for
his
father-in-law's
estate
and
his
wife,
Hayden
didn't
I'm.
Sorry,
Richardson
didn't
live
that
much
longer
beyond
the
the
building
of
this
building
in
1875,
but
his
wife
lived
well
into
the
20th
century
and
she
ended
up
being
the
owner
of
the
building
and
it
was
a
rental
property
for
her.
She
didn't
live
there
or
anything
she
just
her
family
owned
it
and.
B
B
D
D
Yeah,
it's
really
an
unusual
Survivor
so
and
given
that
that
was
Central
to
the
combat
zone
and
kind
of
a
messy
little
area
for
a
while.
It's
pretty
amazing
that
it
survived.
Yeah
yeah.
B
Amazing,
okay,
I
think
Council
you're
good,
and
we
have
no.
We
have
no
public
testimony
Joe
and
Kathy.
Thank
you
for
coming
out
here
today.
This
will
be
reported
out
favorably
tomorrow
and
at
a
regular
meeting.
Just
meeting
is
adjourned.