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From YouTube: Committee on Post Audit & Oversight on May 18, 2020
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Docket #0621 - Hearing regarding all City department FY20 budget surpluses
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C
A
A
A
A
A
Okay,
great
all
right
so
we'll
gamble
in
my
cup
good
afternoon,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
Boston
City
Council's
Committee
on
post
audit
and
oversight.
We
are
here
for
a
hearing
on
docket
number
zero,
six,
two
one
order
for
hearing
regarding
all
City
Department
FY
2008
surpluses.
This
matter
was
sponsored
by
councilor
Michael
Flaherty
and
referred
to
this
committee
I'm
joined
by
several
colleagues,
and
they
will
have
a
chance
to
give
an
opening
statement
and
later
ask
questions
in
the
order
of
their
virtual
arrival.
A
So
just
a
few
reminders
which
I've
been
missing
lately
because
I
had
not
been
printing
this
out
prior
and
usually
it's
right
on
our
desk.
So
today,
I
do
want
to
remind
everyone
that
this
is
a
public
hearing
being
recorded
and
broadcast
on
Comcast
8,
RC,
n82
and
Verizon
1964
at
a
later
date.
It's
currently
being
streamed
on
the
city
of
Boston
City,
Council's,
YouTube
channel.
We
will
take
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
the
hearing.
A
If
you
are
interested
in
testifying,
please
email,
Ron,
Cobb,
that's
Ron,
dot,
Copp
at
Boston
gov
for
the
link
and
follow
along
in
the
live
stream
to
know
when
it's
your
turn
to
speak
good
okay,
so
we
already
put
the
docket
number
on
the
record,
we'll
hear
from
later
from
several
representatives
from
the
administration
and
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
their
time
amidst
very
busy
time
for
the
city
of
Boston.
So
we'll
begin
with
opening
statements
from
councillors,
starting
with
the
sponsor
councillor,
Michael
clarity.
A
F
Apologies,
you
haven't
there
yep
good
afternoon
and
thank
you
counsellor
whoa
for
cheering
this
timely
hearing
and
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
who
are
joining
us
as
well
as
they
see
Justin
starett
from
the
administration
so
good
afternoon.
Justin
we're
approaching
the
end
of
the
fourth
quarter,
and
some
city
departments
may
have
budget
surpluses,
given
that
a
lot
of
folks
have
been
working
from
home
and
there's
been
arguably
a
shutdown.
F
If
you
will
so
curious
to
see
what
if
any
funds
are
available,
that
could
be
redirected
to
our
kovat
response
efforts,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
you
know:
public
health,
emergency
folks,
health
care
personnel,
first
responders
and
or
other
city
departments
that
have
been
playing
a
critical
role
role
in
our
Cova
19
response.
So
in
my
hearing
order,
I
highlighted
the
city's
annual
budget
allocation
of
twenty
four
million.
F
Seven
hundred
eighty
eight
thousand
one
hundred
forty
three
dollars
for
snow
removal
as
one
example
as
one
city
budget
item
that
may
have
a
surplus,
given
that
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
snow
this
year.
That
said,
despite
the
fact
that
we
had
no
snow
emergencies,
this
past
went
to
the
Public
Works
Department,
based
on
you
know.
Our
last
couple
of
hearings
have
continued
to
work
extremely
hard
throughout
the
crisis.
All
those
employees
have
been
helping
throw
a
shoulder
into
the
Cova
19
response.
F
I
know
that
they're
working
hard
to
keep
our
streets
clean,
they're
attending
to
many
things,
helping
get
the
food
distribution
out
they're,
also
using
their
buying
power
to
purchase
supplies
for
the
Cova
19
effort.
So
there's
a
number
of
things
that
you
know,
Public
Works
in
other
departments,
are
actively
involved
with
as
part
of
our
response,
so
so
I
put
the
blanket
out
there
that
I
know
that
each
of
our
Vince
is
working
very
hard
in
contributing
efforts
were
on
the
phone,
as
you
know,
Justin
every
single
date
with
the
mayor
and
his
team.
F
So
we
know
the
efforts
that
are
undertaken
right
now.
You
know,
obviously
those
efforts
are
requiring
resources
as
well.
It
may
be
repositioning-
and
maybe
maybe
repurposing
end
of
the
day
as
the
municipal
branch
of
city
government
and
as
the
sort
of
having
the
fiduciary
responsibility.
Those
are
things
that
the
council
should
be
involved
with
there.
F
At
least
you
know
big
granting
allocation
Authority
for
us,
so
I'm,
confident
in
you
and
your
ability
and
in
your
efforts
during
this
covert
response
as
well,
so
just
want
to
identify
what
it,
what
if
any
departments
into
our
programs
are
experiencing
any
type
of
surplus
and
obviously
what
are
our
priorities
with
respect
to
shifting
or
repurposing
those
funds
as
part
of
our
kovin
18
response
and
how
we,
as
the
council,
can
and
should
be
playing
the
role
in
in
those
decisions.
So
that's
it
in
a
nutshell.
G
E
E
It
seems
that
there's
no
emergency
thing
is
sort
of
an
obvious
suspect
in
this
situation,
but
I
also
understand
that
we
may
not
have
had
snow,
but
we
have
had
lots
of
ice,
so
I
understand
that
the
the
surpluses
may
not
be
as
large
as
anticipated.
But
since
this
is
my
first
year
on
the
council,
I'm
eager
to
learn
more
about
the
mechanics
of
how
this
budget
works
and
I
listen
and
learn.
This
after
I
may
not
have
too
many
questions.
Thank
you.
D
D
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
just
happy
to
be
here
for
this
hearing.
It
is
certainly
the
I
don't
think
post
on
it
has
existed
since
I've
joined
the
council
four
and
a
half
years
ago,
so
excited
about
this
hearing
and
I
can't
wait
to
learn
more
I
will
be
in
and
out
of
the
hearing,
as
I
do
have
another
commitment,
we'll
bounce
back
and
forth.
Thank
you,
ma'am
chair.
A
C
I
J
A
K
Good
afternoon,
everyone
just
wanted
to
thank
the
maker,
certainly
thank
you,
madam
chair,
certainly
important
to
reflect
back
and
see
how
we
have
spent
our
city's
resources
and
make
sure
that
we
are
taking
lessons
from
that
and
applying
them
as
we
move
forward
in
this
FY
21
budget
process.
So
I'm
appreciative
to
have
this
conversation
actually
during
our
current
budget
season.
So
thank
you.
I
look
forward
to
a
good
conversation.
A
I
Remarks
are
Thank
You,
counselor
clarity
for
hosting
this
and
share
woman
Michelle
wolf
for
bringing
us
together,
I
like
to
thank
the
maker
and
the
chair
for
holding
this
hearing,
I
think
for
a
lot
of
families
right
now.
We're
learning
just
how
important
it
is
to
spend
every
penny
as
wisely
as
possible.
The
outbreak
of
Cobra
19
has
put
a
lot
of
working
families
in
some
spot,
they're,
not
sure
how
they're
going
to
pay
their
rent.
I
They
don't
know
how
they're
going
to
keep
their
small
businesses
alive
and
many
might
not
even
know
whether
or
not
they
got
enough
money
to
put
food
on
the
table.
I've
said
this
many
times,
but
we
as
a
city
tend
to
act
when
we
have
the
political
will
to
do
so.
We
also
talk
about
how
the
budget
is
a
value
statement.
I
think
this
hearing
is
the
perfect
opportunity
to
make
that
belief.
A
reality
I'm
excited
for
this
conversation
and
look
forward
to
getting
to
the
work.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you
very
much
Elsa
Mejia,
so
you
heard
from
a
few
councillors
statements
that
folks
are
curious
about
the
snow
removal
budget,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
sure
that
will
be
in
Dustin's
presentation,
I.
Think
I'm
also
interested
as
a
committee
chair
in
thinking
about
how
we're
setting
up
a
structure
you
know
this
year,
I
think
the
timing
was
a
little
bit
thrown
off
with
with
the
pandemic
and
everything,
but
our
ways
and
means
chairwoman
and
I
had
discussed
briefly.
B
B
So
good
afternoon,
Council,
thank
you
for
for
having
me
thank
you
to
council
flower
you
for
hosting
this
this
hearing
today,
as
you
mentioned
councillor
woo,
my
name
is
Jeff
sincerity.
I'm
the
city
of
Boston's
budget,
director
I'm
gonna,
give
a
brief
presentation
on
the
status
of
the
FY
2008,
including
some
of
the
projected
deficits
and
surpluses,
as
well
as
the
FY
2011
uu
issue
that
we're
monitoring,
which
is
a
thing
as
an
important
conversation
to
have
here.
Councillor
Bach
mentioned
that,
in
addition
to
surpluses
and
deficits,
we
have
on
the
spending
side.
B
We
also
have
a
tremendous
uncertainty
on
the
revenue
side,
which
is
an
important
thing
to
balance
out
in
this
conversation
and
then
I'm
going
to
quickly
touch
on
some
kool-aid,
really
they
cost
and
some
of
the
resources
that
were
targeting
that
you
may
be
familiar
with
it
and
have.
Thankfully,
thanks
to
you
pass
through
the
City
Council
already
and
we'll,
hopefully
continue
to
do
so
in
the
future.
B
So
starting
before
I
get
into
the
specifics
of
the
numbers.
I
wanted
to
set
the
framework
a
little
bit.
The
numbers
that
I'm
going
to
talk
about
today
are,
as
of
March
31st
2020
were
the
first
three
quarters
of
the
fiscal
year.
So
to
your
point,
counselor
counselor
whoo.
We
really
look
at
things
in
a
quarterly
basis
and
that
really
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
set
the
timeframe
for
when
we're
looking
at
things,
because,
as
you
all
know,
costs
are
spent
and
actually
paid
out
in
a
really
wide
array
of
different
time
periods.
B
You
may
have
costs
that
are
spent
in
December
that
don't
actually
get
paid
out
the
door
until
May,
so
looking
at
it
at
a
quarterly
basis,
is
really
the
best
way
that
we
go
about.
Do
it
doing
it.
So
when
you
look
at
these
numbers,
this
is
basically
set
75%
of
the
way
through
the
year,
meaning
that
all
the
funding
you
have
left
has
to
cover
the
remaining
25%
of
the
year.
B
This
snapshot
also
includes
mostly
spending
prior
to
Cove
ignite
team,
which
also
helps
us
set
a
baseline
for
how
we
think
about
making
sure
we
balance
the
budget
for
the
remainder
of
the
year.
As
you
know,
we
are
not
predicting
or
sort
of.
As
of
right
now,
we
are
not
predicting
any
type
of
overall
surplus
in
the
budget
sort
of,
especially
given
some
of
the
uncertainty
we
have
in
federal
funding
and
Kovach
costs.
Fy
2011
ooh
will
be
severely
affected
by
Kovan
19.
So
we
need
to
be
very
careful
with
how
we
manage
any
surpluses.
B
Our
finances
may
show
for
the
rest
of
the
year.
The
goal
is
to
always
end
your
imbalance,
and
we
were
going
to
do
everything
we
can
to
avoid
running
a
deficit.
That's
really
what
my
office
spends
a
lot
of
time.
Doing
is
that
as
we
manage
any
we're,
projecting
the
surpluses
and
any
deficiencies,
we
also
have
to
manage
that
revenue
side
of
the
equation
to
make
sure
that
we're
balancing
the
overall
budget
the
other
day
so
moving
on
to
some
of
the
top-line
numbers
for
the
budget.
B
As
you
know,
the
FY
2008
passed
by
the
council
totaled
three
point:
four:
nine
three
billion
as
of
March
31st,
the
city
had
expended
or
encumbered,
which
is
a
commitment
to
expend
that
funding
of
two
point:
five
nine
billion
or
about
almost
seven
exactly
75%.
Of
the
three
point.
Four
nine.
Three
billion
that
was
appropriated
for
everybody,
twenty.
This
is
almost
exactly
with
how
far
we
are
through
the
year
at
this
time
period
and
leaves
us
25%
of
funding
available
to
cover
25%
of
the
year.
B
So
it
keeps
us
basically
on
track
to
balance
the
budget
by
the
end
of
the
year
now
going
into
sort
of
some
specifics
within
that
three
point:
four:
nine
three
billion
about
one
point:
eight
three
billion
or
about
fifty
two
percent
of
the
budget
cover
salaries
over
time
and
other
employee
expenses.
That's
both
for
public
safety,
city
departments
and
school
and
school
department
through
March
31st.
We
have
expended
about
one
point,
one
nine
one
point:
one:
nine
five
billion
or
about
sixty
five
percent
on
those
employee
costs.
B
While
this
lags
a
little
bit
behind
the
overall
spending
that
we
have
today,
there's
really
two
reasons
for
that.
As
many
of
you
may
know,
payroll
runs
about
two
weeks
after
the
expenses
are
incurred,
so
sort
of
the
last
two
weeks
in
March
didn't
get
captured.
They
don't
get
captured
and
so
vehicle
time
period,
and
the
second
thing
is:
we
also
have
a
traditionally
higher
payroll
in
the
spring
and
summer
because
of
some
of
our
seasonal
employees
like
hokies
and
Public
Works,
a
lot
of
seasonal
employees
and
arcs,
as
well
as
summer
jobs.
B
So
we
really
intend-
and
we
expect
to
spend
the
full
amount
of
the
employee
expenses
that
we
have,
and
it's
really
just
a
timing
issue.
That's
keeping
it
slightly
behind
the
overall
spending
to
areas
of
the
budget
that
are
spending
faster
than
the
than
the
time
period
allows
our
fixed
costs
and
other
expenses.
Fixed
costs
represent
about
21%
of
the
city
budget
and
through
March
31st.
We
have
expended
about
624
million
or
about
81%
of
available
funding,
because
these
are
fixed
costs.
B
We
expect
that
these
resources
will
be
expended
by
the
end
of
the
year
and
the
reason
that
we
have
a
sort
of
expended
more
than
the
75%
that
we
have
through
the
time
periods,
because
things
like
pensions
and
debt
service
are
paid
out
in
big
lump
sums
throughout
the
year.
So
we
really
see
a
less
of
a
seasonal
expenditure
and
something
that
happens
in
big
chunks.
B
So
that's
that's
something:
that's
tracking
along
fine,
the
other
expenses
that
the
city
has,
and
these
are
for
things
like
utilities,
contractors
supplies
represent
about
897
million
dollars
of
the
budget
or
about
26%,
and
we
have
spender
and
cover
encumbered
about
86
percent
of
funding
and
have
about
14
percent
or
about
126
million
remaining
to
cover
the
last
quarter
of
the
year,
and
we
do
also
expect
to
expend
that
so
within
the
numbers
that
I
just
mentioned,
I
wanted
to
mention
a
few
of
the
potential
departmental
deficits
and
surpluses.
We
are
tracking.
B
We
believe
that
for
balancing
both
these
deficits
and
surpluses,
we
were
going
to
end
the
year
imbalance,
but
it's
something
we're
continuing
to
monitor.
As
of
right
now
we
are
tracking
expected
deficits
in
the
following
areas:
police
and
fire
over
time
of
about
seven
to
nine
million
and
two
to
four
million
respectively,
based
on
increased
operating
hours
so
far
through
FY
20
we're
also
seeing
a
potential
deficit
in
waste
removal
of
between
1
million
and
3
million.
B
Now
this
is
something
we're
going
to
track
throughout
the
rest
of
the
year,
but
based
on
recycling
rates
that
have
come
in
higher
since
we
budgeted
for
last
year,
as
well
as
the
increased
demand
for
residential
pickup
of
trash
and
recycling,
because
a
lot
more
people
are
obviously
in
their
homes
that
that
is
something
that
we
are
tracking
as
a
potential
deficit
to
manage
throughout
the
year.
As
far
as
on
the
surplus
side
council-fire,
you
are
exactly
right.
We
definitely
did
have
a
light
winter.
B
B
Other
small
surpluses
that
we're
tracking
utilities
across
the
city
are
tracking
a
modest
two
to
four
million
dollar
surplus
based
on
a
little
utility
raising
gas
prices.
I
don't
have
to
tell
you
that
gas
is
quite
a
bit
cheaper
than
what
it
was
normally.
So
that
is
something
that
we're
tracking
employee
health
insurance
is
tracking
slightly
better
about
two
to
four
million
as
well,
but
something
we
are
monitoring
in
a
post
collated
worlds.
So
as
employees
are
starting
act
because
health
care,
we
are
sort
of
tracking
a
two
to
four
million
dollar
surplus.
B
But
this
was
again
before
March
31st,
so
we're
curious
to
see
how
a
postcode
world
is
gonna,
look
like
for
employee
health
care
and
finally,
the
Transportation
Department
is
tracking
a
small
surplus
of
between
1
and
3
million,
because
we
are
issuing
fewer
parking
tickets
and
parking
meters.
We
are
spending
less
on
our
vendors
who
process
those
payments
for
us.
B
Well,
that
is
sort
of
a
small
good
news
thing.
There
is
a
much
worse
bad
news
component
of
that
is
because
we
are
drastically.
We
have
drastically
reduced
the
number
of
parking
enforcement's
that
we've
done
really
just
focusing
on
safety
ones
in
parking
meters
across
the
city
are
down
pretty
significantly.
There
is
a
much
bigger
revenue
loss
on
the
revenue
side
of
the
ledger
that
more
than
makes
up
this
parking,
two
parking
tickets
and
neuters
surplus.
B
So
that
is
something
that
we're
sort
of
happy
to
see
a
small
surplus,
but
something
that
we're
really
concerned
with
on
the
revenue
side
of
things.
So
speaking
of
revenue
I
wanted
to-
and
at
a
time
this
afternoon,
talking
about
the
revenue
challenges
that
we
are
tracking
and
that
will
impact
how
we
close
the
year
and
balance
sort
of
prior
took
over
nineteen.
We
were
tracking,
at
or
above
our
revenue
collection
projections
for
FY
2011
tracking,
significant
revenue
declines
over
a
few
different
categories.
B
As
you
all
know,
excise
taxes
is
obviously
the
biggest
one
includes
declines
in
meals
occupancy
aircraft
fuel.
This
is
data
we're
awaiting
from
the
state
to
receive,
but
we
expect
significant
declines,
especially
in
room
occupancy
in
aircraft.
Meals
is
going
to
be
a
somewhat
modest
decline,
because
restaurants
have
been
able
to
remain
open
and
do
some
takeout
in
some
delivery.
So
there
is
a
baseline
that
is
going
to
continue,
but
occupancy
at
hotels
is
down
dramatically.
B
So
we
do
not
have
the
projections
in
hand
from
the
state
for
March
and
April,
and
certainly
through
May
so
far,
but
that
is
something
we're
hoping
to
get
in
the
coming
weeks
and,
as
I
mentioned,
before,
parking
fines
and
meter,
fines
and
leader
fees
are
going
down
as
well,
mostly
because
we
are
just
prioritizing
safety
violations
and
there's
a
lot
less
car
traffic
in
the
city
to
generate
the
parking
meters.
That
is
something
we're
monitoring
both
from
the
general
fund
perspective,
but
also
from
the
parking
meter
fun
perspective.
B
Interest
on
investments
is
down
to
the
recent
great
cuts
by
the
Federal
Reserve.
The
Fed
had
cut
lates
twice
in
the
past
six
months,
more
than
what
we
had
been
expecting
to
stimulate
the
economy
and
generate
the
investment
by
the
private
sector.
So
that
is
something
that
is
affecting
us,
because
our
interest
rate
that
we
get
for
our
our
our
rainy
day
fund
is
is
down
considerably
and
then
finally,
on
departmental
revenue,
while
many
permits
are
still
available
online,
some
small
department
fees
and
permits
are
down
given
a
bit
down
a
bit.
B
And
more
that
folks
are
just
I
think
as
counselor
maybe
I
mentioned
just
trying
struggle
to
get
by
and
I
think
that
that's
something
that
we're
seeing
in
a
couple
small
areas.
The
one
sort
of
guiding
light
at
the
end
of
this
is
that
property
taxes
are
obviously
an
area
of
strength
for
the
city
going
into
nineteen.
B
We
are
really
aiming
to
land
the
ship
as
balance
for
FY
20th
at
something
that
my
office
and
the
rest
of
the
entire
AF
cabinet
is
spending
a
lot
of
time
on
right
now
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
dip
into
our
rainy
day
fund
in
order
to
close
FY
20
I'm,
not
a
single
one
in
touch
on
and
I
know.
It's
a
really
important
topic
for
both
the
council
and
the
city
is
the
cove
819
related
spending
and
resources
and
I
know.
B
We've
been
in
front
of
you
a
few
times
over
the
past
couple
weeks.
Talking
about
it,
but
I
wanted
to
highlight
some
of
the
areas
that
we
have
then
and
will
continue
to
spend,
funding
on
and
the
resources
that
we're
hoping
to
tap
in
order
to
pay
for
it.
So
so
far
the
city
is
expending.
It
gives
me
significant
funding
to
both
protect
our
city,
employees
for
delivering
criticals
to
these
services,
as
well
as
enables
significant
new
programs
that
are
necessary
because
of
the
public
health
guns.
B
This
includes
personal
protective
equipment
for
Public,
Safety
and
city
staffers.
That's
both
since
March
31st
and
something
that
we're
going
to
have
to
be
going
forward,
cleaning
and
disinfecting
of
public
areas
and
city
facilities.
That
is
something
that
obviously
we
were
doing
in
City
Hall
right
now
with
a
limited
opening
window,
but
something
that
we're
gonna
have
to
likely
ramp
up
significantly
as
we
move
towards
a
a
reopening.
You
know,
given
the
governor's
guy
who
said
he
announced
today,
but
that's
something
that
is
likely
to
come
in
future
months
technology
to
enable
telework
capabilities.
B
Obviously
this
was
a
lot
to
do
with
getting
city
employees,
the
technology
they
need
to
be
able
to
work
remotely.
Obviously,
that
is
something
that's
going
to
continue
going
forward,
as
not
all
city
staff
will
be
back
in
the
building
at
the
same
time,
given
the
public
health
guards
call
the
distance-learning.
B
That's
going
to
look
like,
given
the
public
health
guidance,
the
dentists
I
mean
the
School
Department
is
continuing
to
work
on
and
then
finally,
the
public
health
and
medical
expenditures
that
we've
had
to
make
chief
among
them
Boston
hope
we
have
stood
up,
Boston
hope
going
on.
I
want
to
say
seven
weeks
at
this
point
we
have
had
I
think
close
to
a
thousand
folks
come
into
the
the
respite
side
of
the
building
and
about
another
700
or
so
on
medical
side.
B
That
is
something
that
is
a
sort
of
a
significant
expense
that
the
city
has
undertaken
and
working
with
the
state,
Partners
HealthCare
and
the
BCC
and
Amina
up
at
the
state,
so
that
that
is
something
that
we're
continuing
to
work
with
them
and
prioritize
every
day.
The
good
news
is,
we
think
that
a
lot
of
those
costs
are
going
to
be
covered
by
some
of
the
new
resources
that
have
been
made
available
to
us
one
of
the
ones.
B
We
have
not
talked
a
lot
about
so
far,
but
something
that
we
plan
on
coming
to
the
council
with
in
the
coming
weeks,
is
FEMA
reimbursement.
So,
in
addition
to
some
of
the
other
federal
funding,
FEMA
reimbursement
is
something
that
we
are
going
to
pursue
vigorously,
because
that
is
a
really
an
untapped
and
uncapped
resource
that
we
think
is
going
to.
B
You
know,
be
a
real
benefit
for
the
city
and
when
it
comes
to
some
of
the
spending
that
I
mentioned,
and
that
is
something
that
we
are
eagerly
working
on
with
our
state
partners
who
help
us
with
this
middle
process,
to
the
feds
so
more
to
come
on
that
coming
meat.
That
is
something
that
we're
going
to
prioritize.
First
and
foremost,
the
second
bucket
of
funding
that
we're
getting
use
to
cover
Kovan
related
expenses
is
the
cares
Act.
B
So,
as
many
of
you
know,
thanks
to
the
council's
passing
of
the
cares
Act
funding
two
weeks
ago,
I
think
at
this
point
made
it
was
week
ago.
We
have
access
to
up
to
121
million
dollars
for
public
health
related
measures,
a
lot
of
which
are
going
to
be
covered
by
what
we've
talked
about
already
and
we.
We
think
that,
with
that
funding
and
FEMA,
the
doubt
will
cover
the
majority
of
our
costs
related
to
Kovan.
B
Many
of
you
may
know
that
the
US
House
passed
the
heroes
Act,
which
could
eventually
potentially
provide
even
more
funding
back
to
the
state
and
cities,
and
we
look
forward
to
its
consideration
and
hopeful
passage
in
the
US
Senate.
But
as
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
seen
some
of
the
pushback
already
from
the
US
Senate
ease,
means
that
this
bill
is
likely
going
to
change
significantly.
B
So
that
is
something
that
we
and
we
would
encourage
everyone
in
Boston,
because
we
really
will
benefit
from
that
funding
if
it
does
in
fact
pass
in
its
current
form.
So
that
is
something
that
we
have
on
our
radar.
We're
continuing
your
monitor
and
some
of
network
certainly
to
continue
to
advocate
for
going
or
to
leave
with
encourage
all
everyone
in
the
city
to
do
that
as
well.
So
I
know
that
was
a
lot
and
I
will
sort
of
stop
right
there
and
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
F
Good,
thank
you.
Thank
You,
Madame,
chair
Justin
I,
appreciate
your
thorough
analysis
there
in
attention
to
detail
with
the
presentation,
so
I
guess
I'll
touch
base
on
who
was
one
piece
that
you
had
for
the
meals,
occupancy
parking
fees
and
fines
license
and
permits,
as
well
as
interest
on
investments
when
given
there
has
been
a
dip
in
that
from
your
vantage
point,
when
do
we?
When
will
we
sort
of
realize
or
feel
that
pain,
if
you
will,
will
it
be
q1
or
q2
or
q3?
F
Well,
how
do
you
sort
of
forecast
when
we've
had
to
shut
down
with
you
know
on?
We
don't
have
the
meter
maids
going
out
and
we
don't
have
the
the
volume
of
cause,
as
you
mentioned,
building
permits
and
licenses
and
fees,
fine
meals.
All
of
that
everything
is
down
and
looks
like
it
will
be
down,
for
you
know
for
a
little
bit
longer
and
then,
as
it
sort
of
starts,
to
come
up,
it's
probably
good
items,
so
it's
gonna
come
up
slowly
as
well,
so
there'll
be
a
big
chunk
of
that
revenue.
F
B
It's
a
great
question:
it's
really
an
extended
time
period
that
we're
gonna
feel
it
some
of
the
initial
ones
that
you
mentioned
so
excise
taxes,
aircraft,
meals
and
occupancy
there.
They
get
remitted
to
the
state
in
real
time,
so
the
March
gets
submitted
to
state
in
April
and
then
it
gets
sent
to
us
in
May.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
lag.
These
are
all
FY,
2011
news
that
we're
talking
about
right
now,
but
you're
exactly
right.
This
is
going
to
be
a
extended
ramp,
ramping
up
and
ramping
back
to
normal
normalcy.
B
That
is
certainly
something
that
we're
gonna
feel
the
pinch
of
both
in
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year,
FY
20,
but
then
also
going
into
a
421
when
we
submitted
the
budget
for
FY
21
back
in
beginning
of
April,
we
kind
of
built
the
the
assumptions
that
we
would
get
back
to
normal
in
a
sort
of
somewhat
to
their
time.
Prepaid.
B
If,
if
folks
even
remember
this
far
back,
the
original
stay-at-home
order
was
until
April
26,
then
we
assumed
that
sort
of
the
economy
would
slowly
start
to
open
back
up
in
the
beginning
of
May
and
June,
really
get
back
to
you
know
not
full
capacity
in
July
but
closer
to
maybe
60
or
70
percent,
depending
on
the
measure.
I
think
that
that
is
an
area
of
concern
for
us,
as
we
think
about
both
the
end
of
closing
out
FY
20.
B
So
I
do
want
to
stress
that
the
parking
meters
and
some
of
those
other
revenue
sources
you
mentioned
those
are
going
to
hit
FY
20s
budget.
So
when
we
think
about
surpluses-
and
we
think
about
deficits,
we
have
to
think
about
it,
both
as
spending
surplus
spending
deficit,
but
also
a
revenue
deficit
at
the
end
of
the
day.
B
So
when
we
think
about
you
know
the
100
million
dollars
in
new
growth,
which
is
what
we
saw
for
FY
2008
enough
pretty
quickly
by
you,
know
the
the
dramatic
declines
in
parking
meter,
revenue
and
parking
tickets
that
have
basically
come
to
a
halt
in
FY
2017
sure
we
land
the
plane
in
balance
in
FY
2010,
as
we
think
about
FY
21
I
mean
I'm
hard
heartened
to
see
that
there
is
some
guidance.
Obviously
because
there's
guidance
that
came
out
today
and
we're
gonna
sort
of
digest
that
and
understand
what
it
means
from
Boston.
F
B
Potentially
change
our
thinking
about
how
quickly
revenue
sources
are
gonna
come
back
into
the
city
that
we
rely
on
like
excise
taxes
and
sort
of
what
that
means,
whether
it's
different
levels
of
you
know,
if
a
restaurant
can
we
operate
at
certain
capacities
or
hotels
are
only
gonna
be
operating
at
certain
capacities.
Those
are
all
areas
that
are
going
to
affect
our
revenue
and
as
we
as
the
sea,
you
know,
starts
to
dig
into
the
governor's
guidance
and
understand
it
and
process
it
and
then
eventually
provide
guidance
to
our
businesses.
B
L
F
And,
as
you
recall
a
couple
weeks
ago,
we
had
a
hearing
with
respect
to
the
grant
the
federal
coronavirus,
Relief
Fund,
grant
mm-hmm.
How
will
that
funding
be
used?
I,
guess
to
support
city
departments
that
have
incurred
the
non
budget
expenses
so,
for
example,
like
a
D&D,
that's
sort
of
the
senior
home
repair?
Arguably
you
probably
have
to
come
to
a
grinding
halt
as
well
as
sort
of
the
Parks
and
Rec
Fitness
programming's.
F
B
Absolutely
it's
a
great
question:
they're,
really,
the
tricky
part
with
the
coronavirus
relief
fund
is
that
the
funding
can't
be
budgeted.
So,
basically,
if
I
were
to,
we
were
to
transfer
funding
between
parks
and
say
police
to
pay
for
some
PPE
that
would
actually
automatically
trigger
the
funding
not
be
eligible
for
federal
funding.
So
well,
a
lot
of
those
programs
you
mentioned
are
still
operating.
You
know.
A
lot
of
them
are
either
delayed
or
there,
whether
it's
a
senior
home
repair
and
we're.
B
Hopefully
gonna
play
a
little
bit
of
catch-up
when,
when
things
start
to
open
up
Tony
today
on
the
senior
home
repair-
or
they
are
a
surplus
they're
going
to
sort
of
Fault
in
the
overall
city
surplus
to
make
sure
that
we
can
balance
the
books,
the
goal
with
all
the
postcodes,
you
know,
sort
of
postmarks,
very
fair
spending
that
we
think
is
eligible
for
federal
funding
is
to
really
maximize
that
federal
funding
right.
The
first
thing
you
want
to
do
is
get
as
much
funding
from
the
federal
government
and
access
it
as
much
as
possible.
B
So
all
of
the
costs
that
we
started
to
incur,
whether
it's
for
the
PPE
or
Boston,
Hope
or
schools,
or
all
those
those
types
of
areas,
the
first
the
line
of
the
line
of
first
offense-
is
going
to
be
the
federal
as
opposed
to
sort
of
transferring
budgeted
funds
from
somewhere
else,
because
that
would
automatically
trigger
it
not
being
eligible
for
federal
funding
anymore.
So
that's
something
that
we
want
to
be
really
careful,
that
we're
maximizing
federal
money
and,
at
the
same
time
those
surpluses
are
going
to
help
offset
deficits
in
other
places.
B
Right
so
I
mentioned
some
of
the
some
of
the
non
Kovan
deficits
that
we
have
so
I
mentioned.
You
know
police
and
fire
over
time.
I
mention
public
public
works
through
the
collection,
so
those
are
two
areas
that
are
pre
Kovach
deficits,
that
we
had
that
as
we're
thinking
about
balancing
the
books
between
city
operating
budget
surpluses
and
deficits,
but
then
also
revenue
deficits.
That's
all
going
to
help
us
lay
in
the
plane
for
FY
2010,
something
that
we're
going
to
continue
to
monitor
and
and
sort
of.
F
I
guess-
and
therein
lies
the
relief,
so
so
you
got
you're
sort
of
a
little
bit
of
a
balancing
act
to
identify
and
some
departments
may
some
diamonds
may
be
running
a
surplus
because
of
programming
cuts
but
at
the
same
time,
a
deficit
on
the
other
side,
because
they're
there
they're
in
shoulder
deep
with
respect
to
the
Cova
19
response.
So
that's
that's
gonna,
be
a
little
tricky
kind
of
balance
in
that
or
at
least
keeping
an
eye
on
it,
and
then
just
lastly,
because
I
normally
colleagues
have
so
many
questions.
F
Just
a
sneak,
peek
I
guess
then
took
you
for
as
to
how
many
people
or
how
many
companies
did
not
pay
their
property
tax.
You
seem
to
be
pretty
optimistic
and
encouraging
by
those
numbers,
which
is
obviously
that's
that's
exciting
for
me
to
hear,
because
you
know
basic
city
services
rely
is
on
that,
and
my
concern
was
that
you
know
folks
that
we're
gonna
have
the
ability
to
pay
if
they
did
not
pay
or
pushed
it
off.
F
We
would
feel
the
impacts
on
that
fairly
significantly,
particularly
as
it
pertains
to
our
schools
and
public
safety,
etc.
So,
from
your
vantage
point,
based
on
the
q4
number,
you
know
where
we
often,
if
so,
how
much
or
where
we
own
power.
Where
are
your
expectations
with
respect
to
that
in
following
now
as
we
get
into
q1?
Do
you
think
that
trend
will
continue
mm-hmm.
B
It,
though,
is
because
most
of
most
of
you
know,
the
vast
majority
of
property
taxes
are
paid
through
mortgage
companies
and
escrow
accounts,
so
those
have
continued
and
we've
seen
that
that
funding
come
in
over
the
past
couple
weeks
that
that
have
indicated
that
folks
are
gonna
pay
their
property
taxes.
The
the
other
reason
we're
confident
is
folks.
Business
residents
are
looking
at
their
expenses,
they're
very
interested
in
maintaining
their
property
taxes
because
of
the
value
of
the
asset.
F
Just
lastly,
on
the
folks
that
have
their
property
tax
payments
escrowed
built
into
the
mortgage,
so
is
it
the
banks
are
just
continuing
to
sort
of
remit.
Those
funds
to
municipalities,
as
in
this
instance,
boston
and
then,
whether
or
not
the
lnd
has
the
ability
to
pay
or
needs
to
work,
something
on
with
the
mortgage
company.
So
I
guess
they
didn't
the
mortgage
companies
didn't
stop
or
the
bank's
didn't
stop
sending
the
check
to
the
city
I,
it's
fair
to
say
and
those
instances
in
the
shoutout
quickly.
F
Neal
Neal
was
great
at
a
number
of
landlords
who
were
who
wanted
to
pay
their
property
tax
and
beginning
to
city
of
all,
because
we
were
doing
choose
data
to
Tuesday
and
Fridays
only
so
to
Neil's
credit
Neal
was
able
to
set
up
times
for
folks
to
come
in
and
get
that
get
the
time
in
the
attention
at
the
window
so
that
they
could
pay
their
property
tax,
which
again
was
music
to
my
ears,
because
we
need
that
very
precious
property
tax
revenue
to
fund
all
the
services.
So
so.
A
E
B
Yeah,
absolutely
so,
our
employee
health
insurance
is
based
on
the
cases
that
we
see.
So
if
somebody
goes
to
the
doctor
or
the
city
is
fully
and
the
city
is
fully
self
insured,
so
we
pay
the
full
bill
when
the
when
the
doctor
calls
us-
and
we
we
work
very
closely
with
our
public
employee-
is
commissioned
to
manage
that.
B
So
it's
something
we
try
to
predict
and
how
many
folks
are
coming
in
and
out
of
the
doctor's
office,
but
it's
not
something
that
were
ever
able
to
sort
of
fully
grasp.
But
the
thing
to
note
on
that
is
that
when
we
do
run
surpluses
in
the
health
insurance
line,
it
falls
to
what
is
called
the
health
insurance
trust
fund,
which
is
something
that
we
use
in
conjunction
with
the
Public
Employees
Commission,
to
help
offset
rate
increases
in
future
years.
D
Great
Thank,
You,
counselor
whoo
and
thank
you
Justin
I've
lost
Justin.
There
is
yeah.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
this
I
had
a
few
questions.
One
of
them
was
back
on
your
slide
about
the
fixed
costs
and
the
other
expenses
that
were
sort
of
trending
ahead
of
pace.
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
you,
because
with
with
employees
which
is
trending
behind
pace,
you
spoke
to
the
fact
that
it
had
to
do
with
payroll
etc,
but
with
those
costs.
D
B
B
We
make
large
quarterly
payments
to
both
of
those,
so
it
basically
comes
in
a
little
bit
lumpy
throughout
the
year,
so
we
kind
of
get
through
most
of
the
spending
before
we
get
to
the
fourth
quarter
of
the
count
of
the
fiscal
year,
so
we're
confident
that
that's
gonna
land,
fine
on
the
other
expenses,
when
we
talk
about
expended
and
encumbered
and
covered
means,
we've
committed
to
a
contract
of
a
certain
amount.
But
we
haven't
actually
seen
the
service,
so
basically
city
departments
say
they
have
contract
with
somebody.
B
It
might
encumber
the
full
amount
of
the
contracts
or
say
for
argument's
sake.
It's
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
They
may
have
only
spent
you
know
50
percent
or
75
percent,
depending
on
where
they
are
in
the
year,
but
they
have
encumbered
the
full
amount.
Now
departments
are
constantly
covering
and
be
encumbering.
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
that.
There's
always
going
to
be
some
that
are
encumbered
and
come
in
on
a
monthly
basis.
So
it's
it's
not
something
that
we're
worried
about
overall
eating
the
budget
on.
It
is
just
how
we
end
up
doing
and.
D
B
So
we
so
one
of
the
things
thanks
to
you,
kappa
that
we
included
in
this
year's
recipient
apartment
was
a
city
spreadsheet
of
what
has
been
budgeted.
What
has
been
expended,
what
has
been
encumbered?
What
is
available
so
we
get.
We
can
get
a
little
bit
of
a
snapshot.
We
really
would
have
to
go
line
by
the
and
honestly
contract
by
contract,
because,
if
you're
part
of
like
police
or
public,
you
may
have
many
contracts
within
one
line,
so
we
do
obviously
have
the
capabilities
to
look
at
that
on
a
one-by-one
basis.
B
D
I
guess
I
guess
what
I
don't
understand
about
that
is.
It
seems
as
though
you're
comfortable
that
I
mean
it
like.
It
would
be
a
pretty
disastrous
hole
if
we
were
on
pace
for
those
things
and
you're
comfortable
that
that's
not
what's
going
on,
so
you
must
have
a
basis
for
kind
of
thinking
like
whether
it's
historical
or
whatever,
oh,
we
actually
do
15
to
20%
of
our
spending
in
q4.
In
these
categories
like
this,
it's
like
that.
B
I
apologize,
I,
don't
have
in
front
of
me.
It's
probably
the
difference
between
what's
been
expended
and
what's
been
encumbered
in
this,
in
this
instance,
so
becoming.
Are
these
cups
of
broad
broad
swath
of
different
activities
and
I
bucketed
this
way,
so
we
wouldn't
spend
all
that
going
through
each
of
the
contracts,
but
a
a
contract
may
have
a
full
budget
for
the
year,
which
makes
me
believe
that
that's
the
entire
budget,
but
a
utility
that
get
paid
quarterly
or
that
gets
paid
monthly.
B
So
we
feel
pretty
confident
that
the
amount
encumbered
is
probably
a
big
portion
of
the
expect.
A
decent
portion
of
what's
been
expended
as
well
and
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
pull
out
the
exact
date,
oh,
and
what
the
split
is
between
what's
expended
in,
what's
been
encumbered
but
I'm
sure
that
that's
what
gives
us
the
confidence?
That
is
what
gives
us
the
confidence
and
that
we
won't
expand
it
mm-hmm.
D
And
then,
in
terms
of
you
know,
when
I
totaled
up
the
sort
of
current
surpluses
and
deficits
that
we're
tracking
I
mean
if
you
took
the
worst-case
scenario
you
end
up
with
just
the
ones
you
threw
up
on
your
slide.
You
end
up
down
5
million.
If
you
took
the
best
condition,
you
end
up
9
million
um
and
obviously
there's
a
different
there's
another
dimension
to
landing
the
plane
here.
Right,
cuz,
there's
the
whole
revenue
side,
so
I
guess
you've
made
a
few
references
to
landing
the
plane,
but
I
guess
I.
B
Iii
think
it's
safe
to
say
that
we
will
land
the
we
will
end
a
year
in
balance.
That
is.
That
is
something
that
we
will
spend
every
waking
moment
between
now
and
June
30th
doing
the
the
challenge
is
when
to
understand
what
is
a
7
million
dollar
deficit
versus
a
9
million
dollar
deficit
and
that's
something
that
we
work
with
departments
continuously
throughout
the
year.
B
Where
we're
gonna
end
the
play,
you
know
we
always
plan
on.
You
know
spending
down
to
the
penny.
That
is
our
goal.
Every
year,
we've
been
fortunate.
The
last
few
years
to
run
very
small
surplus.
Is
that
we've
been
able
to
dedicate
towards
pension
funding.
I
think
something
like
that
is
is
something
that
we're
probably
a
little
bit
concerned
with
our
ability
to
sort
of
make
supplemental
pay
pension
payments,
but
I
do
think
that
sort
of
the
core
bones
of
the
budget
will
will
end
in
bounce.
D
Okay,
and
can
you
can
you
speak
a
little
bit
to
the
police
and
fire
overtimes,
obviously
a
perennial
issue
that
we
worry
about
and
I'm
curious?
What
proportion
of
that
deficit
you
all
feel
is
attributable
to
the
kovat
19
crisis
versus
what
of
it
is
just
standard
operations
prior
to
say
the
1st
of
March
yeah.
B
So
I
would
say
that
ve,
the
7:00
to
9:00
and
the
2
to
4
are
pre
March
31st,
so
there
may
be
some
small
cove
in
related
costs
that
are
captured
in
there
at
the
very
beginning
of
march.
But
for
the
most
part
this
was
this
was
a
pre
kovat
projection
of
what
we
thought
the
fire
and
police
would
run
for
for
deficits
now.
B
The
one
thing
I
will
say
is
these
are
projections
and
they
take
into
account
the
actual
overtime
we've
expended
between
June
and
March
31st,
but
it
also
makes
assumptions
around
what
we
normally
do
for
overtime
and
April
May
and
June,
with
the
dramatic
decrease
in
events
and
other
public
things.
We
think
that
these
numbers
are
probably
on
the
higher
end
and
will
probably
come
down
a
bit
because
we'll
have
less
effect,
public
events
that
are
be
going
on
weather,
festivals
or
parades
or
sports
games.
Something
like
that.
B
D
B
So
the
new
20
was
92
million,
so
obviously
a
sort
of
an
unprecedented
and
historic
time
way
higher
than
any
other
time
we've
ever
had.
We
had
budgeted
at
about
65
million
dollars
from
my
mouth.
If
my
memory
serves
me
for
new
growth
in
FY,
2010
I
talked
about
whether
it
was
motor
vehicle
room,
occupancy
parking
meters,
we're
looking
at
a
revenue
loss
in
the
neighborhood,
so
that
that
would
give
you
about
thirty
five
million
dollars.
B
Thirty
four
million
dollars
the
revenue
loss
that
we
are
experiencing
and
will
likely
experience
when
we
get
the
data
from
the
state
is,
is
in
that
neighborhood,
if
not
exceeding
it,
so
that
money
is
basically
gone
going
to
partially
offset
the
lost
revenue
that
we're
gonna
have
when
it
comes
to
parking
excise
interest
on
investments.
No
in
other
areas
that
I
mentioned
some
of
the
smaller
areas,
so
I
think
that
that
is
a
sort
of
a
saving
grace
that
we
have
that
that
help
balance
the
budget
this
year.
B
D
A
I
For
zero,
okay,
so
um
Thank
You,
Justin
I,
really
do
appreciate
you
being
here.
I'm
gonna.
Ask
you
my
questions
one
at
a
time,
so
we
can
have
a
little
dialogue
and
I
will
say
that
if
I
get
a
little
bit
confused
or
what
you're
saying
I'm
gonna
be
like
I'll
raise
my
hand
so
that
you
can
break
it
down
in
a
way
that
I
can
understand
it.
Okay,
absolutely.
I
B
So
normally
a
surplus,
the
money
falls
to
the
City
Stabilization
Fund.
One
of
the
things
that
we've
been
able
to
do
in
really
targeted
ways
is
I.
Think
I
mentioned
some
of
it
with
the
snow
conversation
is
when
we
get
through
a
snow
season
and
say
we
have
a
couple
million
dollars
left
over
in
the
budget
for
that
we're
able
to
either
pre-purchase
or
pre,
invest
in
some
of
the
materials
that
we
need
for
next
year.
So,
basically,
if
you
know
at
the
end
of
snow
season,
we
need
to
repair
all
the
vehicles
we
have.
B
Instead
of
not
repairing
them,
we
can
repair
the
vehicles
and
kind
of
get
ahead
of
some
investments,
so
I
think
you've
seen
really
targeted
ways.
If
we
have
opportunities
to
purchase
things
that
we
know
are
going
to
be
needed
by
the
frontline
departments.
That's
that's
where
we
focus
it
on
any.
Remaining
funding
at
the
end
of
the
year
falls
to
what's
called
the
rainy
day
fund,
which
is
something
that
the
city
has
grown
over
the
past
sort
of
sixty
seven
years.
I
What
it
would
it
be
possible
to
use
some
of
those
funds,
and
you
could
yes
or
no
would
be
good
enough
to
me,
but
I'm
always
curious
about
how
we
can
help
increase
community
engagement
and
just
wondering
whether
or
not
we
can
unlock
some
of
those
rainy
day.
Funds
to
help
support
with
translation,
maybe
food
and
and
and
removing
barriers
to
engagement.
Is
that
something
that
we
can
use
some
of
those
funds
for,
or
is
that
a
no
Noam.
B
So
the
way
sorry
I'll
try
to
give
a
very
short
answer:
the
way
that
our
rainy
day
fund
works.
Basically,
if
part
of
the
budget
every
year,
so
we
would
rely
on
a
certain
limit.
We
would
take
the
money
out
of
the
savings
of
the
rainy
day
fund
and
spend
it
on
something.
I
would
personally
and
I
think
the
sort
of
the
budget
world
would
say
that
that's
probably
a
no-no
just
because
I
don't
like
to
spend
one-time
revenues
that
we
are
going
to
desperately
need.
I
So
the
reason
why
I
asked
is
because
basically,
what
I
have
seen
in
terms
of
language
interpretation
during
the
covert
19
I
just
feel,
like
you
know,
we
can
increase
our
capacity
specifically
around
language
access
and
just
you
know
whether
it's
a
rainy
day
or
not
I
just
think
there's
some
infrastructure
as
a
city
that
we
need
to
really
start
thinking
about,
so
that,
whether
it's
raining
or
not,
that
we're
better
prepared
to
serve
folks
and
ways
that
are
more
culturally
responsive.
So
that's
kind
of
why
I
asked
just
in
general,
but
I.
I
That's
why
I
also
say
there
might
be
a
no,
no
just
because
the
way
you
all
set
up
these
funds,
though
something
I'm
just
curious
as
to
what
the
administration
has
done
so
far
when
it
comes
to
thinking
about
how
to
use
this
money
for
kovat
19
relief.
If
we
choose
to
use
the
surplus
money
to
add
to
programs
such
as
rental
relief
or
other
form
of
aid,
how
can
we
make
the
process
easier
for
people
to
apply
and
easier
for
the
administration
to
actually
allocate
that
money.
B
It's
a
great
question:
I
would
I
would
have
to
defer
to
my
colleagues
in
DMV
and
economic
development
about
the
process
by
which
we
could
construe
my
on
the
applications.
What
I
would
I
hope
came
across
in
this
presentation
today
was
that
we
are
not
tracking
overall
surplus
to
the
city's
budget
this
year.
So
while
a
certain
Department
may
have
a
surplus,
we
are
tracking,
you
know,
sort
of
pre
significant
deficits
in
certain
departments
already.
We
also
have
a
tremendous
revenue
deficit
that
we're
facing
right
now.
B
So,
while
an
individual
department
might
have
a
small
surplus,
the
overall
city
budget
may
have
a
deficit.
So
that
is
something
that
we
can't.
We
can't
spend
that
money
on
something
else.
Otherwise,
we'd
have
to
dip
into
the
rainy
day
fund
to
pay
for
it.
So
that's
all
stuff
that
we're
sort
of
managing
so
that
we
can
end
the
year
in
balance,
but
we
don't
believe
that
there's
any
sort
of
surplus
city
funding
available
at
this
point.
Okay,.
B
A
great
question
I
think
that
the
police
and
fire
over
over
time
deficits
as
as
councillor
Brock
mentioned
our
perennial
things
that
happen
I,
think
we
we
actually
work
with
the
police
department
for
a
year
said:
target
police,
dude
fired
us
at
targets
around
number
of
overtime
hours
and
and
the
like,
but
it
it
can
vary
widely.
Depending
on
the
events,
I
would
say
that
these
projections
are
probably
smaller
than
what
they
have
been
in
previous
years,
that
we've
seen
twenty
to
thirty
million
dollar
deficits
and
over
time.
B
I
B
So
I
think
the
annual
budget
process
is
obviously
through.
The
council
is,
as
you
know,
the
public
hearing
smell
that
I
would
say.
My
office
pre-pre
Kovac,
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
community
engagement.
We
would
go
to
every
one
of
the
mayor's
public
event,
not
public
events,
but
every
one
of
the
mayor's
coffee
hours
and
other
others
for
the
citywide
events
that
we
would
have,
and
we
would
hold
a
station
where
we
have
materials
that
we
make
available
to
the
public.
B
That
would
also
bring
you
know
analysts
from
my
staff,
who
focus
in
different
areas,
whether
it's
parks
or
transportation,
and
they
would
be
able
to
answer
specific
questions
for
folks
that
have
departments
that
usually
generates
questions
and
comments
that
we
then
take
back
to
departments
to
try
to
figure
out
if
it's
feasible
to
do
it
or
not.
So
I'd
say
that
the
budget
process
is
where
we
try
to
focus
all
of
our
community
agent.
Then.
Obviously,
the
council
process
is
thank.
I
J
Thank
You
councillor
Wu
Thank,
You
Justin
for
the
presentation.
I
gets
two
questions,
one
actually
a
sort
of
a
line
with
council
Mejias
question
around
the
intentionality
of
investing
some
of
the
surplus
in
communities
of
color
or
certain
neighborhoods
right
and
I
know.
Looking
forward,
doesn't
look
like
we'll
have
a
surplus,
but
in
past
cycles
wondering
if
they
sort
of
been
some
intentionality
in
the
past
and
then
the
second
question,
which
is
somewhat
related,
is
what
is
the
the
sort
of
decision-making
process?
J
What
is
the
process
with
respect
to
talking
to
departments
department
heads
to
decide
where
the
surplus
might
go?
You
know
who's
at
the
table.
Is
it
just
the
budget
office?
Looking
at
the
requests
that
came
in
from
departments
what
they
could
fulfill
at
one
point,
what
they
couldn't,
that
kind
of
thing.
B
B
Pretty
conservative
as
a
sort
of
an
ANF
cabinet
I
think
that's
our
goal
is
to
make
sure
that
we
land
each
departments
budget.
In
balance,
we
also
are
very
mindful
that
you
know
the
council
appropriates
funding
for
certain
purposes,
so
sort
of
appropriating
or
spending
that
funding
on
something.
That
is
not
you
know
really
to
that
departments
mission
or
related
to
that
departments.
Core
is
probably
something
that
we
would
shy
away
from.
We.
B
You
know
a
public
works
and
surplus
and
spending
on
something,
because
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
sort
of
disingenuous
to
the
budget
process.
Necessarily
so
I
think
that
when
we're
working
with
departments
on
them
on
a
monthly
and
weekly
basis-
and
we
get
to
the
know
in
a
normal
time
period
as
sort
of
a
post,
pre
kovat
19th
time
period,
when
we
get
to
this
time
of
the
year,
we
would
say
to
them-
hey.
You
know,
you
didn't
end
up
hiring
that
position.
You
know
until
December,
but
you
hired
it
or
you.
B
You
know
you
plan
to
hire
them
in
July.
You
hire
them
in
December.
Is
there
some
sort
of
targeted,
similar
type
of
function?
You
could
do
in
the
near
term
to
spend
it,
and
sometimes
there
are-
and
sometimes
there
aren't,
but
I
would
say
that
you
know
the
same
time
that
we
have
a
deficit
this
year
in
certain
departments
we
have
deficits
other
years
at
different
departments.
So
it's
all
about
I,
think
my
office.
B
The
role
we
play
is
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
deficits
don't
outweigh
the
surpluses
throughout
the
entire
city,
so
that
takes
a
little
bit
of
management
and
a
little
bit
of
us
we're
working
with
departments
to
set
priorities
and
set
expectations,
but
I
think
if
there
are
surpluses
on
an
annual
basis
and
departments
can
use
them
for
focused
one-time
investments.
We
try
to
work
with
them
to
do
it.
I
think.
J
J
B
J
B
I
think
it's
it's
not
something
that
we,
we
don't
normally
budget
to
have
surpluses,
so
I
think
it's
something
that
it
comes
up
relatively
infrequently
and
it's
really
areas
I
think
we
hear
from
departments
that
they
may
have
an
ear.
They
may
have
something
that
they've
demonstrated
is
something
that
they
you
know
either
either
a
project
extinct
its
turn
to
point
on
time
or
they
came
in
cheaper
occasionally.
So
it's
not
always
that
we
can
there's
not
a
formal
process
by
which
we
process
requests
to
spend
surpluses.
B
There
is
a
you
know
we
do
as
part
of
our
financial
process.
We
we
stop
buying
new
things
at
a
certain
point
of
the
year,
basically
at
the
beginning
of
May,
and
that's
mostly
because
we
don't
want
to
over
expend
money
we
get
to
that
point
of
the
year.
We
we
will
talk
to
departments
and
say:
hey.
Are
there
any
major
procurements
that
you
need
to.
G
B
Then
you
know
most
of
the
time
they
fall
within
their
budgets,
but
sometimes
if
they
are
trying
to
either
repurpose
a
different
surplus
or
they
want
to
spend
something
else.
That's
when
we'll
have
a
conversation
with
them,
but
there's
not
a
real
formal
process
by
which
we
were
talking
about
surpluses
or
important
or
deficiencies
Thank.
K
K
So
we're
probably
not
looking
at
a
surplus
and
I
want
to
just
give
you
kudos,
because
I
am
confident
that
you
will
be
able
to
do
that
and
that's
through
just
good
management
and
stewardship.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
you
for
that.
But
I
worry!
You
know
what
is
happening
in
this
final
quarter.
I
guess
I
worry
about
how
much
of
this
is
carrying
over
into
FY.
K
K
Yeah,
so
so,
for
example,
if
I
see
that
in
the
it
looked
like
there
were
the
slide,
I
don't
know
what
page
it
was,
but
it
looked
like
there
was
some
ot,
you
know
overruns
and
how
much
of
that
do,
we
think
will
continue
into
the
first
court
of
FY
21,
for
example.
Those
are
the
kinds
of
questions
that
I
really
be
interested
in
understanding.
I
know.
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
the
property
tax,
pretty
confident,
given
that
the
large
you
said
a
good
majority
of
folks
paying
to
an
equity.
B
K
B
B
Yeah
I
think
we
feel
very
confident
in
the
fourth
quarter.
Numbers
for
FY,
21
ormally
would
have
come
in
on
May
1st,
but
we
pushed
to
June
first
I
think
we
feel,
like
a
vast
majority
of
that,
as
I
either
already
come
in
or
is
coming
in
through
escrow
companies
over
the
next
or
through
the
past
couple
weeks,
and
it's
in
the
process.
I
think
there
is
a
certainly
a
portion
of
people
who
pay
their
own
property
taxes
in
and
I
think
that's.
Why
do.
K
Worries
no
worries,
but
the
vast
majority
comes
in
through
the
escrow
and
the
escrow,
the
lenders
paying
it.
So
we're
not
really
worried
about
that.
That
sounds
good
so
again
to
this
point
about
what
is
happening
now
in
this
fourth
quarter.
If
FY
22,
we
saw
the
public
safety
with
the
overtime
numbers
going
up,
I'm
assuming
that
cost
around
cleaning
supplies
and
or
staffing
around
those
kinds
of
things.
K
You
know,
as
they're,
going
out
to
inspect,
to
make
sure
everyone
understands
and
what's
going
on
and
maybe
there'll
be
some
fines,
hopefully
not,
but
I
would
anticipate
now
that
the
the
Commonwealth
is
slowly
phasing
in
to
opening
back
up
that
certain
departments
like
in
spy
is
D,
we'll
see
an
uptick
and
so
I
I.
Wonder
because
we're
just
not
going
to
know
enough
in
these
last
six
weeks
of
the
fiscal
year,
I
mean
how
are
you
using
that
to
project
for
what
we
need
in
FY
21,
around
inspections,
around
public
safety,
etc,
etc.
Yeah.
L
B
From
a
Cove,
a
related
response
and
reopening
we're
really
targeting
three
things
that
the
FEMA
money
that
we
are
sort
of
working
on
right
now
that
will
be
coming
to
the
council
within
a
couple
couple
weeks.
The
cares
Act,
which
is
the
funding
passed
by
the
council
last
week
or
two
weeks
ago,
which
was
121
up
221
million
dollars
to
spend
public
health
related
measures.
A
lot
of
the
stuff
you
mentioned,
cleaning,
PPE
enforcement.
We
think
Mike
would
probably
qualify
as
public
health
related
measure.
So
we
really
are
targeting
those
costs
to
those
resources.
B
Well
that
doesn't
cover
those
lost
revenue.
So,
when
Lea
submitted
the
budget
back
in
April,
we
projected
an
8
percent
decline
in
excise
tax
revenue
and
we
basically
built
that
on
the
understanding
that
at
the
time
the
public
health
measures
ran
through
the
end
of
April.
So
we
assumed
you
know
a
very
slow
ramp
up
of
the
economy,
starting
in
May
June
July
into
the
next
year.
B
I
think
what
we've
learned
in
the
past
month
is
that
that
one,
the
public
health
stated
homeowner,
was
extended
by
several
weeks,
so
that
obviously
changes
some
and
then
we
think
that
the
obviously
still
digging
into
the
governor's
announcement
today
about
you
know
what
would
come
back
in
different
phases
and
how
that's
going
to
look,
but
that's
gonna,
give
you
at
least
give
us
a
little
bit
of
a
roadmap.
That
says
this
is
a
best-case
scenario.
You
know
this
is
how
quickly
things
will
open
up.
B
This
is
likely,
you
know
a
potential
worst-case
scenario
and
that's
going
to
help
us
make
projections
on
the
revenue
side
of
the
equation.
I
think
the
me
you
know,
elephant
in
the
room
is
if
the
federal
government
comes
in
with
the
heroes.
Act.
That's
really
gonna
be
a
helpful
aspect
to
the
city.
That's
gonna
help
manage
our
costs,
so
we
are
sort
of
encouraging
and
anybody
will
I
talk
to
you.
I
say
call
your
call.
B
Your
senator
call
your
rep
and
advocate
for
the
heroes
Act,
because
that's
really
going
to
be
how
we
we
balance
our
books
and
then
the
you
know.
The
other
side
of
things
which
we
didn't
really
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
today
is
state
aid,
so
standing
is
still
an
unknown.
At
this
point
we
have
the
governor's
number
from
January
and
we
have
have
not
heard
anything
specific
since
then,
on.
What
that
looks
like
the
state's
budget
is:
gonna
have
to
be
bailed
out
as
well.
B
B
B
I
would
say
our
approach
is
that
we,
we
can't
make
projections
for
the
state
right
when
you
know
we
went
back
when
we
looked
at
what
happened
there
in
the
Great
Recession
and
the
dot-com
bubble,
and
and
understanding
what
that
looked
like
was
was
pretty
bad
right.
They,
they
made
twenty
to
thirty
percent
cuts
in
locally
until
we
get
a
sense
of
what
the
state's
doing
it's
really
hard
for
us
to
just
make
a
guess,
ed
and
what's
doing
it,
selling
ourselves
short
a
little
bit
right.
K
No
and
I'm
not
expecting
you
to
but
I
like
to
plan.
You
know
here's
best
case
worst
case
and
here's.
You
know
where
we
think
we're
gonna
land,
because
I
think
that
just
kind
of
helps
being
prepared.
So
obviously
we
can't
predict.
No
one
has
a
crystal
ball,
but
I
just
be
interested.
If
you're
thinking
about
that
I
I
do
and
I
apologize.
K
I
know
we
are
looking
at
surplus
for
FY
2010,
but
I'm
interested
in
how
this
last
quarter
of
FY
20
is
playing
out
around
the
I,
can't
help,
but
think
about
how
this
last
quarter
is
impacting
the
first
quarter
of
the
next
fiscal
year.
So
forgive
me
if
I
and
keep
asking
questions
along
those
lines,
I'm
interested
you
mentioned
in
your
presentation,
I
think
Justin
and
I
think
I'm
running
out
of
time.
So
this
will
probably
be
my
last
one.
K
C
B
Answer
just
just
quickly
that
we
don't
know
for
sure,
we've
heard
anecdotally
from
training
groups
that
occupancy
in
hotels
is
way
down:
March,
April
and
May.
We
don't.
We
don't
really
have
a
good
sense
of
what
the
revenue
impact
was,
because
that
is
funding
that
is
paid
to
the
state
and
then
gets
sent
to
us
so
we're
a
month
or
two
behind
and
when
we
actually
collect
that
revenue.
Looking
into
21,
we
have
already
when
we
submitted
the
April
budget
of
the
mayor's
recommended
budget
back
in
April.
B
We
had
already
made
some
assumptions
around
occupancy
that
was
probably
in
the
neighborhood
of
60
to
70
percent
in
July.
I.
Think
that
that's
an
area
that
we're
gonna
have
to
revisit
as
we
look
at
the
governor's
reopening
and
that's
and
that's
going
to
depend
a
lot
of
the
public
health
measures
that
are
available
at
the
time
appreciate.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
I
think
everyone
has
had
one
round
through
I'll,
just
firm,
I
rap
for
my
in
this
round.
All
this
ask
one
question
which
is
Justin:
keep
it
to
just
help
translate
some
of
that
into
from
amounts
into
dollar
amounts
into
positions
right
so
as
you're
thinking
about
your
landing,
the
plane
and
where
there
might
be
surpluses
here
and
there
that
are
going
to
help
cover
for
unexpected
costs
elsewhere.
B
A
B
Not
projecting
any
layoffs
or
furloughs,
and
here
we
do
not
have
a
any
type
of
hiring
reasons.
Anybody
who
has
a
budgeted
position
through
the
FY
is
open.
Now
I
will
say
it
is
naturally
a
little
bit
slower
and
it's
naturally
a
little
bit
difficult
to
hire
up
right
now,
especially
thinking
about
summer
jobs
and
how
to
keep
people
safe
and
how
to
keep
kids
safe.
A
B
A
Thank
you
next
round
will
look
back
to
counselor,
Flaherty
and
I
just
want
to
everyone
to
keep
in
mind
that
we
do
have
one
person
signed
up
for
public
testimony
as
at
this
point
so
feel
free.
If
you
don't
have
a
question
just
to,
let
me
know
as
well,
but
we'll
do
one
run-through
and
then
public
testimony
and
if
accounts
are
still
have
more
questions.
At
that
point,
we
can
move
back
again:
counsel,
flirty,
they're,.
F
Good,
thank
you
ma'am.
If
you
had
no
additional
questions.
Obviously
this
was
very
helpful
to
kind
of
sort
of
noodle
through
the
the
thought
process
of
the
city's
budget
office.
So
that
said,
just
one
remind
Jess,
obviously
the
the
council's
role
as
the
legislative
branch,
particularly
around
the
purse
strings
and
making
sure
that
if
those
decisions
are
being
made
by
the
administration
that
you
know,
they
have
to
run
those
through
the
Boston
City
Council,
so
other
than
that.
That's
just
drawing
your
attention
to
the
chatter
and
our
role
in
municipal
government,
but
nonetheless,
I
understand.
F
Things
are
happening
very
quickly,
and
this
is
a
case
of
first
impression
and
it's
a
serious
magnitude
in
terms
of
the
you
know,
the
virus
and
the
number
of
folks
that
have
contracted
it.
The
number
of
folks,
most
of
all,
who
have
passed
away
from
it,
the
communities
that
have
been
impacted
by
it
and
obviously
our
coveri
and
making
sure
that
we're
taking
no
neighborhood
no
community
for
granted
in
those
efforts.
So
that
said,
you
know
just
wanna,
make
sure
that
there's
a
spirit
of
cooperation
and
we
continue
to
collaborate
on
all
decisions.
F
F
You
know
on
behalf
of
the
residents
of
the
city
of
Boston.
You
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
making
best
efforts
and
that
those
that
need
these
resources,
that
we
have
a
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
they
get
them
so
that,
in
a
nutshell,
I
appreciate
your
attention
to
detail
Justin
in
for
your
willingness
to
come
forward
and
just
kind
of
run
us
through
the
thought
process,
so
appreciate
it
and
stay
healthy
and
stay
safely.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
E
You
thank
you
Justin
I'm,
fascinated
I'm
learning
so
much
about
the
city
budget
through
this
whole
budgeting
process
and
I.
Really
thank
you
for
your
attention
to
detail
and
thoughtful
approach
and
your
ability
to
communicate
concepts.
Well,
I.
Had
you
mentioned
summer,
jobs
I
was
wondering.
What's
the
plan
for
summer
jobs
like
I
know
it's
really
gonna
be
critical
this
summer,
but
we
don't
even
know
how
we're
going
to
do
that,
but
any
thoughts
or
wisdom
to
share
about
summer
jobs
would
be
valued.
Well.
How
do
you
think
yeah.
B
I
think
I,
unfortunately,
I
have
to
defer
to
my
colleagues
in
Yee
and
throughout
the
city
about
what
the
plan
is,
and
we
talked
about
that
in
the
future.
I
would
say
from
a
high
level
perspective.
We
we
heard
New
York
City
canceled
their
summer
jobs
program,
and
that
is
not
something
that
we're
pursuing
for
for
the
city
of
Boston.
You
know
we're
gonna
do
everything
we
can
to
get
as
many
jobs
hired
as
we
can,
but
we're
going
to
be
safe
about
it.
B
We're
going
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
in
a
consistent
manner
with
the
public
health
measures
and
we're
gonna
work,
and
there
are
no.
You
know
we're
gonna
work
with
with
all
city
departments,
our
private
partners,
to
try
to
figure
out
a
way
to
have
a
summer
jobs
program.
But
I
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
the
exact
plan
for
this
coming
year.
B
There
are
a
ton
of
actions
that
we
can
take.
I
think
the
the
most
obvious
one
we
have
is
when
we
work
with
departments
to
manage
their
spending
towards
the
end
of
the
year.
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
you
know
if
it's
a
large
purchase
or
if
it's
a
significant
number
of
purchases,
that's
what
we
can
work
with
them
and
say:
hey
I
know
this
isn't
an
you
know.
B
B
Basically,
so
if
it
will
spend
a
lot
of
time
over
the
next
couple
months,
working
with
our
internal
and
F
partners
to
you,
know,
pry
over
sort
of
understand
when
expenses
are
supposed
to
hit
and
when
revenue
was
supposed
to
be
collected
and
try
to
maximize
where
we
think
the
best
opportunity
is.
A
lot
can
change
between
June,
1st
and
sorry
June,
30th
and
July
1st,
so
understanding
how
that
works
is
probably
our
biggest
role.
We
play.
D
All
right
chair,
told
me:
I
was
having
feedback,
so
um
I
was
wondering.
Can
you
speak
to
so?
You
talked
about
this
sort
of
the
kind
of
pots
of
money
that
are
running
over
or
down
what
you
didn't
talk
about
as
much
was
kind
of
departments
that
are
running
ahead
ever
behind
pace,
and
we
have
some
sense
of
that
as
a
council
in
a
disaggregated
way
based
on
the
spreadsheets
that
you're
sending
over
to
us.
D
So
we
can
kind
of
see
right
like
do
it
only
as
15
percent
of
its
budget
left
as
of
March
31st,
whereas
for
I
think
OED
is
36
percent
right.
So
there's
and
obviously
we
know
that
for
some
departments
that
reflects
being
really
ahead
ever
behind
pace
and
for
some
departments
that
reflects
lumpiness
around
when
they're
paying
different
contracts
and
I.
D
Just
wonder
if
you
could
speak
to
any
departments
precisely
because,
as
you
said,
you
wouldn't
transfer
money
between
departments
without
you
know,
circling
and
with
the
council
etc
like
if
you
could
speak
to
departments
that
were
kind
of
like
predicting
to
be
over
or
under
based
on
their
pace.
Right
now,.
B
I
think
that's
a
fair
question:
I
don't
have
a
sort
of
a
direct
answer
for
you,
I
think
police
and
fire
and
Public
Works
trajan
recycle
here.
Certainly
the
three
areas
that
I
would
I
would
imagine,
are
gonna
end
here
and
devastate
Public
Works,
we'll
see
how
things
go
with
some
of
their
other
surpluses
that
they
may
have
within
their
own
department,
but
I
would
certainly
say.
Police
and
fire
are
the
two
that
are
most
likely
going
to
end
the
year
in
a
total
deficit.
B
I
think
we're
going
to
work
with
departments
to
whether
it's
OED
or
do
it
to
either
manage
to
their
budget
number
or
you
know,
make
sure
they're
expending
it
like,
like
OED,
is
only
to
use
behind,
not
not
that
I
have
their
numbers
in
front
of
me
either.
So
I
think
that's
really
a
management
with
the
departments,
as
opposed
to
you,
know,
sort
of
stopping
them
or
spending
other
money.
It's
just
a
process
of
staying
in
contact
with
that
one-on-one
of
some
of
the
expenses
and
cost
that
they
have
coming
up.
I
B
K
I
know
it
must
be
a
little
crazy
right
now
cause
we're
closing
out
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
during
a
global
pandemic
and
and
trying
to
predict
what
we
need
moving
forward
so
certainly
appreciate
the
work
that
you're
putting
in
and
look
forward
to
continuing
this
process
through
our
Ways
and
Means
Committee,
as
well
as
our
post,
Audit,
Committee,
and
and
want
to
thank
the
maker
as
well
as
the
chair
for
a
great
hearing.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
happy.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
president,
and
our
friend
Frank
O'brien
is
on,
looks
like
Frank.
Is
the
only
person
signed
up
right
now
so
as
a
reminder
to
everyone,
you
can
always
email
us
your
public
testimony
afterwards
and
in
future
coordinates
so
that
we
can
add
you
to
our
hearings
as
well,
but
Frank.
If
you
could
take
about
two
minutes
and
introduce
yourself
and
state
your
name.
The
record
comment.
Thank
you
sure.
L
Better,
the
the
three
questions
I
had
that
follow
up
from
the
thread
from
the
Environment
Department
was
number
one.
It
seemed
as
if
the
Environment
Department
did
have
a
surplus
and
from
what
I
understood
from
Justin's
presentation
under
certain
circumstances,
if
there's
a
surplus,
give
back
that
makes
funding
ineligible
for
a
federal
component.
I
just
wanted
to
confirm,
if
that's
the
case,
for
the
Environment
Department,
certainly
in
terms
of
environment
surplus,
we're
very
much
in
favor
of
having
that
surplus
go
into
the
our
common
effort
to
address
the
health
crisis.
L
The
other
two
questions
have
to
do
with
the
go
forward
for
FY
21
and
in
making
assessments
as
to
sort
of
what
the
emphasis
is
going
to
be
in
terms
of
retaining
line
items
or
adding
line
items
and
specifically
in
terms
of
the
climate
reserve
fund.
That's
been
proposed.
Does
the
administration
and
look
into
criteria
of
whether
line
items
are
eligible
for
match
matching
funds
from
other
sources?
You
know
the
catalytic
benefit
of.
If
you
invest
a
little
bit,
you
can
get
a
match
and
then
the
second
is
the
criteria
of
has
been
mentioned.
L
The
role
of
community
input
and
community
engagement,
one
of
the
things
that
we're
advocating
with
the
Climate
Fund,
is
that
it
be
an
eligible
for
community-based
applications
for
spend,
whether
it's
a
long
American
Legion
in
Blue,
Hill
Avenue
or
over
in
East
Boston,
for
example.
So
those
are
the
three
questions
and
I
I'll
sign
off
and
just
listen
to
the
answer.
Thanks
all
appreciate
it.
Thank.
B
Hey,
how
are
ya
I
will
try
to
take
those
in
reverse
order,
so
the
climate
resiliency
fund
that
we
set
up
in
this
year's
capital
plan
is
sort
of
separate
than
the
operating
budget.
We
we
are
sort
of
still
evaluating
criteria
of
how
we're
going
to
use
that
funding.
That
is
up.
The
desire
of
the
funding
is
to
supplement
existing
city
capital
projects
to
make
them
more
climate
resilience.
I.
B
Think
a
great
example
of
the
nexus
of
this
project
and
we're
sort
of
it
came
from
was
the
yellow
street
bath
of
the
Carley
Community
Center,
and
the
notion
that
we
never
want
to
sacrifice
programmatic
efforts
or
a
resiliency
effort.
So
this
would
be
a
pot
of
funding
where
we
can
sort
of
identify
sort
of
climate
resilience
aspects
of
capital
projects
that
are
in
the
capital
plan.
We
certainly
do
spend
a
lot
of
time
by
leveraging
federal
resources.
B
The
capital
plan
is
a
three
billion
dollar
plan,
of
which
about
two
billion
dollars
from
the
city
and
about
a
billion
dollars
comes
from
other
state,
federal
and
other
resources.
I
think
the
best
example
of
that
would
be
last
year's
capital
plan
included
ten
million
dollars
for
the
four
point
channel,
which
was
a
match
to
a
ten
million
dollar
FEMA
climate
resiliency
grant
for
another
ten
million
dollars.
B
So
we
certainly
we
do
spend
a
lot
of
time
thinking
about
private
resources
as
far
as
the
federal,
an
overlap
that
is
strictly
a
coronavirus
fund
related
aspect,
so
part
of
the
criteria
for
the
coronavirus
fund
is
that
it
can't
be
budgeted
and
when
we
transfer
funding
from
one
department
to
another,
it
becomes
budgeted
in
that
other
department,
so
that
would
make
it
an
ineligible
cost
for
this
specific
coronavirus
relief
fund.
So
that
is,
that
is
what
that
was
referencing
to
not
other
general
federal
funding,
resources
and
I.
Think
that
was
all
free.
A
F
Yeah,
okay,
Jim,
no
technical
difficulty
kreso
was
not
moving
with
the
finger.
um
No
really
final
comments,
other
than
I
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
have
the
hearing.
First
and
foremost,
my
colleagues
from
joining
I
was
here
too
serious
enough
issue.
You
know
again
on
the
repositioning
the
repurposing.
If
there's
funds
available,
if
we
have
departments
running
a
surplus,
we
need
to
have
a
conversation
with
the
City
Council
as
to
where
we
want
to
direct
those.
F
We
all
have
shared
responsibilities
and
she
had
priorities
and
in
order
to
make
sure
that
the
funds
are
getting
to
people
that
need
them
the
most
to
the
F
frontline
and
our
first
responders,
starting
with
those
and
and
then
obviously
identify
where
the
federal
funds
could
be
helpful
as
well.
So
you
have
your
hands
full
Justin.
We
appreciate
your
time
and
attention
to
today's
hearing
and
look
forward
to
continued
partnership
with
you
and
thank
you
that
I'm
sure
for
a
for
the
hearing.
A
Thank
You
councillor
clarity
and
thank
you
to
all
my
colleagues
thank
you
especially
to
central
staff
for
taking
this
on
and
to
Justin
for
your
time
amidst
everything
else
that
you're
working
with
us
on,
so
we're
so
grateful
for
you.
This
will
conclude
the
post
audit
and
oversight
committees,
hearing
on
docket
number
zero
six
to
one
order
for
a
hearing
regarding
all
city
department,
FY
20
budget
surpluses.
This
hearing
is
adjourned.