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Public Health, Homeless & Recovery Hearing - Dockets #1447- Resolution calling for a state of emergency at the intersection of Massachusetts Avenue and Melnea Cass Boulevard. #1450- Order for a hearing to discuss the humanitarian crisis at the intersection of Massachusetts Avenue and Melnea Cass Boulevard.
A
I
am
joined
by
my
colleagues
today
in
order
of
arrival
consulate,
Tanya
Fernandez,
Anderson
Council
of
Flaherty
councilor,
Baker,
councilor,
Durkin
council,
president
Flynn
and
counselor
at
large
Roots
illusion
this
public
hearing
is
being
recorded.
It
is
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov,
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Dash,
TV
and
broadcast
on
Xfinity
channel
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channel
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A
A
A
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket
one
four,
four
seven,
which
was
the
resolution
calling
for
a
state
of
emergency
at
the
intersection
of
Massachusetts
Avenue
in
melnia,
Cass,
Boulevard
area
and
also
docket
1450.
In
order
for
a
hearing
to
discuss
the
humanitarian
crisis
at
the
intersection
of
Massachusetts
Avenue
in
melnia
Cass
Boulevard,
these
two
hearing
orders
the
resolution
and
the
hearing
order
are
very
similar,
so
I
thought
it
would
be
effective
efficiency
as
though
the
panelists
that
we
invited
would
be
able
to
speak
on
both
dockets
together.
A
A
Thank
you
so
for
me
this
was
an
important
opportunity
to
hold
this
hearing
for
the
public
to
hear
from
the
Boston
Public,
Health,
commission
and
other
City
officials
about
the
crisis
at
mass
and
cats.
I
do
think
it's
a
shame,
a
shame
that
the
administration
is
Will
willing
to
forego
this
opportunity.
We
all
know
it's
a
tragedy
and
it's,
in
my
opinion,
unprecedented
in
our
City's
history,
in
both
its
severity
and
its
duration.
A
We
will
all
of
us
be
judged
on
how
we
respond
to
this
tragedy
so
far,
I'm
afraid,
I
think
many
would
agree
that
the
city
has
fallen
short
in
its
response
and
the
lack
of
accountability
is
deeply
troubling
to
me.
Nearly
a
month
ago,
we
wrote
to
the
members
of
the
board
of
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission,
myself,
councilor
Flynn
councilor
Baker
and
Council
of
Flaherty,
asking
them
to
vote
to
declare
a
state
of
Public
Health
Emergency
at
their
September
13th
hearing.
We
got
no
response,
which,
to
put
mildly,
was
disappointing.
A
A
We
have
a
humanitarian
crisis
on
our
hands
if
the
resistance
to
declaring
a
public
health
emergency
is
rooted
in
the
rationalization
that
the
scope
of
the
problem
is
too
large
for
short-term
term
measures.
For
this
matter,
I
have
to
say
I
reject
that
reasoning
as
flawed,
short-sighted
and,
frankly,
not
true.
A
A
B
A
B
C
A
E
So
what
he's
here
to
listen
to
our
concerns?
Okay,
that's
telling
I'll
I'll
hear
from
the
community
I
think
we
all
know
what
the
problem
is
and-
and
you
know
we
should
be
able
to
work
together
on
this.
But
if
we're
not
let
I
think
people
like
to
use
the
term
if
we're
not
allowed
at
the
table,
we
can't
help.
So
thank
you.
F
I'm
thankful
for
my
colleagues
for
caring
deeply
about
this
issue.
Homelessness,
substance,
abuse,
untreated
mental
health
conditions
is
a
major
concern
of
my
constituents
and
I
care
deeply
on
a
moral
and
personal
level
about
this
I'm
excited
to
see
the
mayor's
Administration
is
acting
on
this
issue
with
an
ordinance
docket
1373,
which
will
be
discussed
on
Thursday's
hearing
at
10.
A.M,
look
forward
to
the
opportunity
to
work
with
the
police
and
public
health,
Commissioners
and
other
administrators
who
will
be
joining
us
on
Thursday
to
review
this
new
policy.
F
The
current
situation
has
caused
our
police
officers
to
make
sensitive
judgment,
calls
about
removing
tents
in
lieu
of
a
standard
response.
This
is
tough
because
we
already
asked
our
First
Responders
to
make
a
lot
of
tough
judgment,
calls
so
I
think
this
ordinance
is
needed,
but
since
the
ordinance
will
be
discussed
on
Thursday
I'm
planning
to
talk
about
that,
then
so
for
the
sake
of
our
First
Responders
I
want
to
I.
F
Think
Thursday's
hearing
is
really
where
we'll
discuss
that
and
given
that
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission
has
already
shared
their
determination
that
the
situation
at
mass
and
cast
does
not
meet
the
legal
definition
of
a
Public,
Health
crisis
and
I
think
we'll
be
discussing
the
issue
in
depth
on
Thursday
I
will
not
be
fully
engaging
in
this
hearing.
However,
I
do
appreciate
the
chair's
work
to
raise
Community
Voices,
who
are
concerned
about
the
heartbreaking
situation
at
mass
and
Cass
and
I'm
grateful.
F
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you,
councilor
Murphy,
for
sharing
this
important
hearing
and
for
sponsoring
these
dockets,
along
with
councilor
Baker
Council
Flaherty.
This
humanitarian
crisis
at
mass
and
chaos
is
both
the
public
safety
and
Public
Health
crisis.
It
requires
resources
at
the
city,
state
and
federal
levels,
the
tents
and
large
encampments
at
mass
and
Chaos
the
sites
of
drug
dealing,
human
trafficking,
violence
and
other
illegal
activities.
G
G
This
crisis
and
its
negative
impact
on
quality
of
life
and
Public
Safety
are
impact
and
mass
and
cast,
but
also
other
neighborhoods,
such
as
Andrew
Square,
Nubian,
Square,
Clifford,
Park,
South,
End,
Roxbury,
Dorchester,
South
Boston.
Moreover,
the
situation
continues
to
harm
our
small
businesses,
non-profit
Partners,
in
the
local
economy.
At
this
time,
the
status
quo
is
not
an
option
and
we
must
provide
positive
leadership
to
improve
this
emergency.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
H
Thank
you
and
I
want
to
thank
all
the
community
members
who
are
here.
This
is
an
untenable
situation
for
everyone
involved
and
it
has
been
untenable
really
since
the
closure
of
the
Long
Island
Bridge,
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
There.
I
want
to
Echo
my
colleagues
statement
that
you
know
on
Thursday
we're
going
to
be
discussing
docket
number
1373,
and
that
will
be
the
form
in
which
we'll
discuss
how
we
are
addressing
this
untenable
situation.
That
I
believe
was
scheduled.
H
I
know
actually
was
scheduled
prior
to
today's
hearing
and
is
on
everyone's
calendar
for
us
to
have
that
discussion
tomorrow
morning,
as
I
I'll
be
in
the
area
with
neighborhood
groups,
hi
I'm,
sorry,
yep,
I'll
I'll
be
with
you
tomorrow
morning,
very
early
on,
as
we
continue
to
look
at
the
situation
as
an
at-large
City
councilor.
We
know
that
it
is
unfair
for
one
of
our
neighborhoods
to
really
be
having
to
a
disapportionate
amount
of
the
effects
of
what's
are
happening
there.
H
It
is
an
untenable
situation,
especially
for
our
most
vulnerable
populations
down
there.
When
we
look
at
our
lgbtq
plus
population,
when
we
look
at
our
couples
who
are
down
there,
who
often
have
a
harder
time
accessing
shelter
so
Sullivan
and
see
you
shaking
your
head,
thank
you
for
being
here
and
when
you
look
at
those
who
are
suffering
with
the
disease
of
addiction,
it
is
not
untenable.
It's
untenable
for
the
people
there.
It
is
untenable
for
the
city
of
Boston.
We
need
to
think
about
how
we
address
this
issue
in
partnership
with
our
state.
H
We
think
about
this
as
a
regional
issue.
When
we
look
at
the
folks
who
are
down
there,
not
that
trying
to
push
the
issue
off
to
any
other
city
or
to
anywhere
else,
but
it
really
requires
and
demands
that
our
state
is
at
the
table
and
that
other
cities
and
jurisdictions
think
about
what
their
role
is
and
how
they
are
held
accountable
to
their
folks
who
are
suffering
from
mental
health
issues
from
homelessness
from
drug
addiction.
H
We
have
neighbor,
we
have
communities
and
towns
that
are
fighting
MBTA
communities
to
build
more
housing
in
their
cities
and
towns,
and
we
need
to
have
have
an
all
hands
on
deck
approach.
So
I
look
forward
to
Thursday's
hearing
again
so
that
we
could
go
into
more
details.
I
apologize
to
members
of
community
I
already
had
before
this
was
scheduled.
I
had
a
a
meeting
and
Community
schedule
that
I
had
to
leave
for,
but
know
that
this
is
a
matter
that
is
not
only
important
to
the
councils
that
you
see
here.
H
I
know
that
it's
important
to
the
councils,
who
aren't
here
it's
obviously
very
important
to
the
administration
as
there's
been,
that
that
ordinance
filed
and
I
look
forward
to
continued
conversation
so
that
we
can
get
this
right
to
the
for
the
residents
who
live
there
for
the
business
owners,
who
are
there
and
for
the
humans
who
are
there,
whose
dignity
is
stripped
every
day
by
their
presence
of
tense
and
by
the
untenable
situation
that
is
at
mass
and
cast.
So.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
I
just
want
to
be
clear
as
the
chair
and
the
sponsor
who
wrote
this
hearing
order,
that
this
is
in
no
way
a
duplicate
to
what
we
will
be
doing
on
Thursday,
which
is
the
scheduled
meeting
that
consulate
Arroyo
as
the
chair
government
off
schedule
to
go
through
the
ordinance
that
the
mayor
had
sent
over
to
us
several
weeks
back
about
having
the
council
vote
on
whether
or
not
tents
should
be
removed.
I'm
going
to
read
it
short,
but
I'm
going
to
read
this
hearing
order.
A
The
request
was
in
hopes
of
addressing
the
dire
situation
with
a
sense
of
urgency,
one
that
this
body,
in
the
light
of
the
fact
that
we
have
received
no
response,
does
not
share.
There
was
no
other
assumption
that
any
of
us
who
wrote
that
letter
to
the
Public
Health
commission
board
members
who
gave
us
no
response.
There
was
nothing
else.
I
could
think
that
they
did
not
take
it
as
seriously
as
we
did.
A
We
need
to
respond
to
the
ongoing
tragedy
of
substance,
use
disorder,
mental
illness,
open
use
of
illegal
drugs,
violence,
criminality
and
disturbance
of
urban
life
that
has
gone
on
far
too
long.
We
have
reached
a
stage
where
dramatic
intervention
is
vital
in
this
area,
and
we
need
rail
solutions
that
address
underlying
problems
and
causes.
A
All
of
those
who
are
down
there
every
day
before
we
go
to
the
panels.
I
do
just
want
to
read
the
panels
that
I
invited.
So
it's
clear
to
everyone
that,
unlike
an
ordinance
that
would
be
dealing
with
the
legal
department
and
making
sure
we're
going
through
the
wording
of
the
ordinance
that
it
would
have
been
a
very
different
hearing
today.
A
As
we
see
they
decided
to
not
come
and
as
some
of
my
colleagues
already
stated,
there
is
this
misunderstanding
that
this
was
in
some
way
going
to
get
in
the
way
of
Thursday's
meeting
or
wasn't
on
the
schedule
quick
enough
for
people
to
attend,
which
I
just
want
to
be
clear
and
no
way.
It
is
that
at
all.
But
because
we
do
not
have
anyone
from
the
administration
attending
I
will
go
to.
We
have
been
joined
by
councilor
Mejia.
A
I
Thank
you,
chair,
surprisingly
enough.
I,
don't
have
a
lot
of
opening
statements,
other
than
I
came
here
to
listen
and
learn,
and
I
think
that
we
are
at
a
moment
where
we
need
everybody
at
the
table
if
we're
really
serious
about
addressing
any
issue
and
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
a
conversation
that
does
just
that.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
so
I
do
see
that
we
have
Sue.
Sullivan
is
here
if
you
could
come
forward
or
if
they're
I
don't
know
if
Bob
is
going
to
zoom
in,
if
we
could
see
if
some
of
the
people
are
on
Zoom
and
George,
if
you're
here
also,
if
anyone
from
the
community
has
come,
if
they'd
like
to
come
down
and
be
the
panel.
C
A
I'm
not
sure
if
you've
come
prepared
with
some
opening
statements
or
sue.
If
you
wanted
to
start
with
some
updates,
I
know
we
do
talk
regularly
and
I
do
just
want
to
state
that
when
a
small
area
in
our
city
is
suffering
so
badly,
and
it's
referred
to
by
everyone
as
a
humanitarian
crisis
and
a
state
of
emergency
I,
don't
think
having
two
meetings.
Three
meetings,
even
20
meetings
on
the
issue.
A
J
You
chair,
I
I,
do
appreciate
having
the
meeting
and
I
always
appreciate
any
time
we
get
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
what
truly
is
a
humanitarian
crisis,
Public
Health
crisis,
Public
Safety
crisis
in
the
area
of
Newmarket
known
as
mass
and
cast,
but
also
it's
not
just
about
immediately
right
there.
It's
the
impacts
on
not
just
New
Market,
but
the
south
end
and
the
Roxbury
and
South
Boston
and
Dorchester
and
Beyond
and
I
think
that's.
What
we
really
need
to
think
about
is
is
what
this
crisis
means
to
all
of
us.
M
Okay,
I'm
gonna,
I'm,
gonna
I'm
gonna,
see
how
much
I
can
get
through.
Then,
okay,
okay,
I,
think
that
and
Ruth
Z
mentioned
this,
and
there
is
a
general
misunderstanding
of
this
crisis
that
it
started
with
with
the
Long
Island
with
long
the
closing
of
Long
Island,
and
it
did
not
start
with
the
closing
of
Long
Island.
M
It
started
when
Boston
Public
Health
made
a
decision
on
its
own
to
centralize
all
the
needle
exchanging
that
used
to
be
a
van
several
events
that
used
to
run
all
around
the
city
and
they
decided
to
do
it
all
in
one
area.
Now,
once
they
did
that
in
one
area
they
found
two
years
later,
they're
saying
we're
handing
out
three
times
as
many
needles.
What
a
great
success
they
brought
addicts
who
needed
needles
came
drug
dealers
and
saw
that
they
didn't
have
to
cover
Western,
Roxbury
and
Roslindale
and
Back
Bay.
M
They
could
just
come
to
come
to
Albany
Street,
where
they,
where
they're
picking
up
needles
and
and
and
then
more
people
when
they
couldn't
find
their
dealers,
decided
they'd
come
to
Albany
and
we
ended
up
with
most
of
the
drug
dealing
and
and
basically
Boston
Public
Health
began
a
established,
an
open-air
drug
Market,
and
this
is
where
the
problem
started
not
with
not
with
the
closing
of
Long
Island.
In
fact,
there
are
YouTube
videos
calling
calling
this
area
methadone
mile
that
were
done
the
year
before
several
months
before
this.
M
So
that
is
the
real
problem
in
my
for
me,
is
Boston
Public,
Health,
Boston,
Public
Health
created
this
crisis.
It
created
this
crisis
and
I
will
I
will
say
that
it's
done
very
well.
It's
been
bad
for
new,
it's
been
bad
for
the
Newberry
for
the
the
business,
it's
a
bit
bad
for
the
neighborhoods,
but
this
has
been
great
for
Boston
Public
Health.
If
you
look
at
from
2017
to
2024,
their
budget
went
from
75
million
to
125
million
and
60
percent
of
that
during
the
four
years
I
can
find.
M
Figures
went
to
either
EMS
or
to
Addiction
Services.
So
I
believe
that
Boston
Public
Health
is
the
wrong
people.
They
have
the
wrong
set
of
incentives.
Every
addict
for
them
is,
has
a
dollar
sign
on
them?
This
is
how
they
get
money
from
the
city
council
and
from
the
city
and
I
think
the
only
way
to
solve
this.
M
Yes,
we
have
to
take
down
the
tents,
but
the
most
important
thing
we
have
to
do
is
take
this
out
of
the
hands
of
Boston
Public
Health,
because
this
for
them,
this
has
meant
huge
increases
in
head
count
and
huge
increases
in
budget,
and
that's
how
government
works
for
them.
This
is
a
success.
We
see
it
as
misery,
they
see
it,
as
things
could
be
better.
K
Yeah
I'd
like
to
just
say
you
know:
I'm
I'm
in
the
area,
not
as
often
as
some
people
but
I
do
go
down
into
that
area
on
Atkinson
Street
and
it
started
out
as
just
a
row
of
tents.
Now
it's
three
deep
and
it's
this
sludge,
this
slime,
there's
rats
everywhere.
You
know
it's.
It's
people
passed
out.
You
know
I
stopped
to
see
if
people
are
breathing,
sometimes
I
seen
a
guy.
Just
last
week
his
face
was
in
a
pile
of
trash
and
he
was
breathing
and
I
walked
up.
We
invite
people
to
a
breakfast.
K
We
do
on
Saturday
mornings.
We
get
about
70
people,
not
all
just
there,
but
other
people
come.
You
know
so
I
believe
there's
a
spiritual
aspect
of
this
and
we
want
to
see
I
just
celebrated
24
years
clean
and
sober.
Thank
you
to
my
God.
You
know,
but
but
it's
it's
heartbreaking
to
see
the
misery
that's
down
there.
It
really
is
heartbreaking.
K
I've
seen
open
sores
infections,
I've
seen
people
I've
seen
a
guy
one
time
trying
to
point
to
his
friend
in
around
the
infections
of
where
he
could
stick
the
needle
in
you
know,
and
so
so
to
say
it
hasn't
risen
to
a
criteria
for
a
Public
Health
crisis.
I,
don't
understand
what
would
rise
to
that
criteria,
because
what
I
see
is
misery
down
there
I've
seen
people,
four
people
die
in
front
of
me.
If
it
wasn't
for
knocking
they'd
still
be
dead.
You
know
it's
it's
it's
a
very
sad
thing.
K
The
last
person
that
I
saw
come
back
from
knocking
she
screamed,
which
it
could
have
been
used
in
any
horror,
flick,
I
think
she
saw
hell.
That's
what
I
said
to
my
friend
I
think
she
had
a
near-death
experience,
so
there's
people
dying
down
there
and
I
think
the
attention
to
come
down
too
I
agree
with
the
level
it
was
said
over
here.
I
think
people
should
be
arrested,
I
think
people
should
should
get
sick
and
tired
of
being
arrested
and
maybe
they'll
look
up
one
of
those
times.
K
K
You
know
so,
if
they're
going
to
enforce
it
and
force
it,
but
I
saw
it
when
maybe
when
the
mayor
came
in,
they
did
tear
down
all
the
tents
at
one
point
and
when
the
first
tent
went
up
that
10
should
have
come
down,
but
they
allowed
more
tents,
more
tents,
more
tents,
to
build
up
again.
It
hasn't
gone
out
into
the
surrounding
areas
again,
but
you
know
I'll
just
I'll
just
say
you
know.
When
some
of
the
community
took
their
people
out
a
few
weeks
back
and
Fox
News
was
down
there.
K
We
had
a
prayer
walk
plan
for
that
neighborhood
and
there
was
over
a
hundred
people.
They
expected,
maybe
20
of
us
to
show
up
to
just
walk
the
neighborhood
and
pray
and
there
was
over
a
hundred
people,
there's
probably
like
120
150
people
walking
the
streets
and
Fox
25
as
they
are
saying.
The
volunteers
have
left
because
there's
been
stabbings
and
here
comes
100
people
walking
down
the
street.
They
said
who
are
you
people?
K
You
know,
so
the
churches
do
care
the
group
that
I
belong
to
Miracle
Mile
Ministries,
the
the
rap
form,
erratics
and
stuff.
We
know
freedom
is
possible
from
this
and
I
want
to
see
that
I
mean
there's
people's
mothers,
brothers,
sisters,
Aunts
Uncles,
there's
people
out
there,
there's
human
beings
out
there
and
I'd
hate
to
think
that
anybody
likes
the
status
quo.
I
know
there's
money
making
to
be
made,
I'd
hate
to
think
anybody
likes
the
status
quo.
So
something
definitely
has
to
happen.
K
L
It
says.
80.
I've
also
got
a
letter
from
the
Boston
Public
Health
Department
to
inspectional
Services,
requesting
these
permits.
They
reference
plans
that
have
been
sent
to
inspectional
services.
With
the
letter
in
hand,
I've
tried
to
request
those
plans.
I
have
not
been
able
to
get
them
so
I'm
wondering
if
the
city
council
has
the
ability
to
order
something
that
we
that
I
have
in
writing
exists
from
the
city
to
be
provided
to
the
public.
A
That'd,
be
great
I'll
make
sure
we
get
there.
You
can
leave
it
there
I'll
make
sure
before
you
leave.
Thank
you.
Do
I'll
go
back
in
order
of
arrival
from
my
colleagues
if
they
have
any
just
general
statements
or
questions
directly
to
those
who
are
here
from
the
communities
that
are
down
our
residents
business
owners
supporters,
which
we
know
many
people
do
show
up
every
day
to
help,
but
I'm
counselor
bananas,
Anderson.
B
B
Guess
it's
it's
just
it's
just
counter-intuitive,
because
then
we
are
not.
We
I
was
ready
to
have
a
conversation
here
today
and
I
wasn't
aware
that
the
administration
wasn't
showing
up
I'm
I'm
glad
to
receive
this
letter
from
the
administration
today,
specifying
that
folks
can't
you
know
be
here.
However,
again
I
was
looking
forward
to
the
conversation,
considering
that
we
have
a
wealth
of
resources
here,
Community
folks
that
have
been
working
previously
profusely
on
this
topic.
B
All
people
whom
I
respect,
I,
guess
I,
look
forward
to
the
conversation
on
on
Thursday
and
the
question
of
the
on
what
you
filed,
because
Madam
chair
is
whether
or
not
this
should
be
deemed
as
a
Public
Health
crisis.
I
spoke
with
Dr
jakutu,
just
asking
her
where
she
was
with
this
and
I.
Guess
it's
more
about.
You
know
whether
or
not
like
it
would
make
a
difference
in
terms
of
you
know,
funding
wise.
B
A
To
work
so,
you
may
have
stepped
out
to
get
clarity
when
I
did
were
you
here
when
I
read
the
order
and
explained
yeah
so
and
also
this
hearing
today
is
not
just
on
the
docket
to
declare
a
resolution
declaring
a
Public
Health
crisis.
It's
also
on
the
hearing
order
to
discuss
the
humanitarian
crisis
in
this
area.
A
So
it
was
a
hearing
order
which
I
combined
with
the
the
resolution,
and
it
was
councilor
Arroyo
who
had
stopped
the
vote
last
week,
but
I
agreed
when
he
said
he
looks
forward
to
this
hearing
order
on
the
docket
to
get
information.
So
we
have
more
information
in
nowhere.
In
my
hearing
order
or
in
my
resolution,
calling
for
a
state
of
emergency
do
I
mention
the
tents
in
this
area.
A
I
know
we
as
counselors
our
jobs
are
very
important
and
we're
at
several
meetings
every
day
and
if
something
to
this
level,
where
a
neighborhood
is
suffering
so
bad
I,
don't
think
two
times
in
one
week
is
too
much
for
somebody,
and
it
was
the
only
available
time.
Last
week
we
all
know
there
was
lots
of
Council
hearings.
Last
week,
every
time
last
week
was
taken.
The
first
one
I
could
have
was
today
at
two,
so
I
took
the
first
available.
It
was
closer
to
Thursday's
meeting,
but
we
go
to
meetings
a
lot
department.
A
Heads
have
lots
of
staff
that
can
help
them
right
or
I
do
believe
that
coming
here
today
would
have
given
us
the
answers
that
we
then
could
have
gone
into
that
ordinance.
Hearing
with
much
more
information.
We
all
have
a
different
level
of
understanding.
We
have
all
of
a
different
level
of
interaction
with
what's
going
on
down
there
for
many
different
reasons,
because
we
might
be
District
councils
outside
of
the
area
we
may
be.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
If
I
may
I
guess
the
other
for
me
to
go
on
record
as
to
where
I
stand
with
this
I
I
do
agree
with
you.
I
think
it's
unfair
that
there
is
no
one
here
to
answer.
Questions
so
say
that
the
cheat
the
Chiefs
or
the
head
of
departments
were
busy
are
busy
and
they
they
are.
They
are
very,
very
busy
as
well,
then
send,
as
you
said,
send
a
representative
send
send
one
person
that
can
and.
A
B
B
B
You
know
again,
a
panel
option
of
social
workers,
psychologists
and
housing
resources
and
so
forth.
It
feels
like
the
Strategic
plan
that
was
that
Boston
Public
Health
commission
has
online
does
not
synthesize
a
user-friendly
approach
for
folks
to
be
able
to
comprehend
or
to
be
able
to
say
oh
I
understand
your
metrics.
I
can
monitor
the
progress
here
and
I
can
definitely
measure
the
growth,
and
so
if
the
community
has
a
problem
with
understanding
where
the
progress
is
made,
then
obviously
the
pro
the
issue
is
with
the
delivery.
B
The
issue
is
how
they're
presenting
it,
and
so
I
would
say
that
we
have
a
lot
of
issues,
not
we've.
We've
I,
think
Johnson
Sullivan
and
myself,
then
rep
Santiago,
we
nail
the
whole
concept
of
along
with
Steve
Fox,
with
the
concept
of
metrics
metrics
metrics.
Finally,
we
get
a
dashboard,
but
your
dashboard
is
not
very
it's
not
again,
not
user
friendly.
B
So
if
it's
wrap
around
it
means
that
there
is
an
umbrella
to
actually
Not
Duplicate
services
and
to
have
a
holistic
approach.
So
I
think
that
on
a
public
health
perspective,
I
feel
like
that's
lacking,
there's
a
there's,
some
sort
of
Disconnect
again
between
City
resources
and
state
resources
and
community,
and
some
doubling
and
some
lacking
and
then
in
terms
of
arresting
or
removal
of
tents.
I,
definitely
100
agree
with
removal
of
tents.
I
am
eagerly
looking
for
the
backup
plan,
the
comprehensive
backup
plan
that
says
we
are
going
to
contain
this.
B
We
have
a
manageable
plan
that
is
not
going
to
seep
into
our
neighborhoods
and
doorsteps
and
backyards
or
that
when
it
does,
we
have
a
crisis
response
plan
or
action
plan
that
addresses
each
issue.
Small
or
large,
so
considering
that
I
am
the
city
council
for
district
seven.
Most
of
the
issues
are
in
my
district
and
with
all
respect
to
council
Baker,
who
has
been
a
strong
Advocate
on
this
issue
for
way
longer
than
I've
been
here
a
little
bit
longer
than
I
can
probably
worked
on
this.
B
You
go
into
conquer
Square,
Worcester,
Square,
Springfield,
Street,
all
of
those
areas
there
all
in
between
and
I'm
getting
bombarded
with
emails
and
I
mean
over
a
hundred
a
day
about
whether
it's
needles
or
clothing
or
loitering,
or
it's
just
everywhere
right
so
I'm,
not
convinced
that
just
filing
an
ordinance
to
remove
tents
can
actually
address
this
issue.
And
then
the
other
part
is
I'm
interested
in
listening
from
BPD
to
understand.
Are
there
going
to
be
allowed
to
actually
arrest
criminal
activity?
Are
they
going
to
be
allowed
to
be
able
to
separate
that?
B
And
then
will
they
be
supported
with
a
crisis
team
that
will
be
able
to
mitigate
whether
you're
going
to
service
or
you're
going
to
be
imprisoned
and
I?
Think
that
BPD
has
expressed
that
they
are
discouraged
because
when
they
get
arrested,
they
have
to
let
them
go,
but
then,
if
there
is
no
again
comprehensive,
backup
plan,
we're
just
going
in
circles
here
so
I,
don't
pretend
to
know
the
answer.
That
is
my
position.
I
want
the
tents
removed.
What
is
a
comprehensive
plan?
B
D
D
We
as
a
council
met
every
single
day
with
the
administration,
Public
Health
Public,
Safety
housing
experts,
food
distribution,
vaccine
sites
being
set
up
every
single
day
multiple
times
during
the
day,
Boston
Public,
Health,
commission
they
didn't
meet
daily.
They
didn't
meet
weekly
I,
think
from
the
start
of
the
pandemic.
They
might
have
met
five
or
six
times
from
throughout
the
year
of
the
Tim
pandemic
and
the
year
following
I
think
there
was
a
total
of
maybe
12
to
14
meetings
tops.
They
regularly
only
meet
every
two
months.
D
They
basically
turned
everything
over
to
the
city,
anyways
and
I'm,
asking
that
they
do
that
here,
I
I
tend
to
agree
with
some
of
the
panelists
that
they're
part
of
the
problem
that
they're
enabling
the
situation
over
there.
They
pass
out.
One
million
drug
kits
a
year,
those
drug
kits,
contain
needles,
pipes,
tourniquets,
cotton,
balls,
cooking
trays,
all
of
which,
by
the
way
after
they
are
discarded,
end
up
in
our
parks
and
our
playgrounds
and
our
ball
fields.
And
look
they
look
something
like
this.
D
I
call
it
under
the
guise
of
enabling
we
learned
a
long
time
ago
for
the
gentleman
that's
in
recovery
and
congratulations
on
your
journey,
and
you
know
one
day
at
a
time
that
it's
sort
of
a
part
of
it
is
tough
love
right.
You
know
when
family
members
are
lying
to
you
and
they're
stealing
from
you
and
they're,
not
straight
and
they're,
not
sober
in
this
chaos
in
your
house.
D
There's
a
rock
bottom
is
a
bottomless
pit,
I
believe
over
at
Madison
cast
said.
None
of
those
poor
souls
are
finding
rock
bottom.
85
percent
of
them
are
not
from
Boston,
but
those
poor
souls
that
one
would
think
would
have
hit
rock
bottom
by
now
to
come
back
to
their
family
so
that
their
parents
and
their
siblings,
their
loved
ones,
could
wrap
around
them
and
get
them
detoxed
and
get
them
into
recovery
and
kind
of
get
them
back
straight
and
sober
and
functioning
I.
D
Believe,
because
the
Public
Health
commission
is
passing
out
a
million
of
these
a
year
both
for
heroin
and
crack
folks
over.
There
are
not
capable
they're,
not
capable
of
making
a
good,
sound,
practical,
reasonable,
healthy
decision
for
themselves,
meaning
that
we
have
to
do
it
for
them.
We
could
be
their
family
members.
We
could
be
law
enforcement,
we
could
be
folks
in
recovery,
I,
think
I,
strong
personally,
I
think
our
strongest
and
best
weapon
right
here
against
this
issue
is
folks
in
recovery.
D
Turning
this
over
to
John
McCann,
it
has
to
get
out
of
the
Public
Health
commission.
It
absolutely
has
to
get
out
of
the
Public
Health
commission
they're,
almost
kind
of
in
the
way
of
a
solution,
and
they
continue
to
hang
their
hat
on
harm
reduction
when
nobody
over
there
is
getting
their
life
back
on
track.
No
one
over
there
was
getting
detoxed.
D
Most
likely
will
sell
the
keys
for
drugs
trade,
the
keys
for
something
else,
lose
the
keys
or
invite
folks
over
with
the
keys
to
get
to
get
high
and
so
putting
sort
of
housing
before
recovery.
I
think
is
also
a
major
misstep,
but
again
under
the
guise
of
of
the
housing
homeless
crisis
in
under
the
guise
of
harm
reduction.
That's
sort
of
this
conundrum
that
we
have
and
the
centralized
Services
over
there
and
I
said.
Even
if
we
open
up.
D
If
we
could
snap
our
fingers
right
now
and
have
the
Harbor
Islands
fully
functioning
no
one's
going
to
go
over
there
if
the
hustle
is
still
over
at
Madison,
Cass
being
fueled
by
South,
Bay,
Mall
and
those
that
are
running
the
street
game.
That's
where
the
action
is.
That's
where
the
community
is
at
I,
don't
go
about
the
Haver
Island,
who
wants
to
be
able
to
Harbor
Islands.
Tell
me
more
there'll,
be
more
folks
trying
to
swim
back
to
mass
and
cast
that's
the
reality
of
it.
So
I
I
just
want
to
deal
in
reality.
D
I
want
to
deal
on
what's
happening
over
there
on
the
ground
that
no
one's
getting
treatment
in
recovery,
no
one's
being
detoxed,
no
one's
getting
their
life
back
on
track.
Numbers
are
growing
significantly,
arguably
from
people
that
are
not
from
Boston
which,
from
someone
that's
in
public
office,
other
Mayors.
Other
city
councilors
state
representatives,
other
government
officials
they
get
to
they
get
to
skate
on
this
one.
It
all
falls
on
Boston,
Mass
and
Cass.
The
the
opioid
crisis,
which
is
which
is
a
regional
problem
which
deserves
a
regional
solution,
has
fallen
on
Boston.
D
D
It
has
to
stop,
and
so,
despite
the
fact
that
Public
Health
commission
is
not
here
today,
even
if
they
were
here
today,
I
I
have
zero
zero
confidence.
It
starts
actually
from
the
pandemic
and
how
they
abdicated
their
responsibility
and
they
didn't
meet
daily,
not
only
not
only
they
didn't
meet,
they
didn't
meet
weekly,
we
met
and
they
turned
everything
over
to
the
city
I'm
asking
through
the
Chia
that
we
asked
Public.
Health
commission
turn
this
issue
back
over
to
the
city.
Let
folks
in
recovery
that
know
this
issue
better
than
anybody.
D
They
know
the
tough
love
part
of
it.
They
know
how
to
get
someone
into
detox.
They
know
how
section
35s
work
they
know
when
someone's
ready
for
Recovery.
That
has
to
happen.
We
should
be
turning
it
over
to
those
on
the
street
that
no
recovery
better
than
anybody
instead
we're
deferring
to
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission,
who
continue
to
exacerbate
the
problem
with
this
and
all
the
other
giveaways
over
there.
D
It's
a
disgrace
frankly,
and
so
no
one
over
there
is
going
to
get
to
Rock
Bottom
when
we're
enabling
with
this
stuff
and
unfortunately
as
referenced,
the
contents
of
the
packet
and
all
these
caps
and
needles,
that's
where
they
end
up.
They
end
up
in
the
playgrounds
and
the
ball
fields
and
where
some
young
child
toddler
kid
playing
ball
going
to
the
beach
they've
recovered
them
on
cast
and
beasts.
They've
recovered
them
down
behind
the
L
Street
bath
house,
they're
all
over
the
place,
because
we're
giving
them
away
and
so
I.
D
D
It's
almost
path
of
least
resistance.
So
again
that
those
are
my
issues
and
my
feelings
about
trying
to
solve
this
issue,
and
unfortunately,
it's
not
going
to
be
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission,
that
does
it.
It
needs
to
be
a
partnership
with
multi-agencies,
but
I
really
would
like
to
see
folks
in
recovery
like
the
John
mcgann's
being
consulted
as
to
what
works
and
what
doesn't
work.
You
guys
know
how
to
help
get
someone's
life
back
on
track.
You
know
how
to
get
someone
into
a
detox.
D
You
actually
also
know
where
the
beds
are
for
detox.
You
know
which
ones
take
insurance
and
which
ones
don't
that's
the
partnership
that
we
need.
We
need
folks
that
are
in
the
recovery,
Community
front
and
center
on
this
one.
Public
Health
needs
to
sort
of
take
a
back
seat
and
allow
folks
to
get
kids
in
young
men
and
women
into
treatment
to
at
least
have
a
Fighting
Chance
at
trying
to
save
half
the
population
over
there
before
we
can
go
any
further.
So
again,
I
appreciate
the
chairs
Indulgence
offering
this
hearing.
D
But
frankly,
even
if
there
was
success
here
and
even
if
they
did
declare
it
a
state
of
emergency,
zero
Confidence
from
this
corner
of
the
world
with
respect
to
how
they
would
handle
it,
how
often
they
would
meet
on
it,
what
their
solutions
would
be
because
we
had
a
front
row
seat
during
the
pandemic
and
they
nailed
it
in.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
E
Thank
you,
madam
Madam,
and
I.
Don't
think
that
this
hearing
really
has
anything
to
do
with
anyone.
That's
an
ordinance,
I
know
where
I'm
voting
it's
up
or
down.
How
much
are
we
going
to
talk
about
that?
My
opinion
on
the
ordinance
is
we
don't
need
the
ordinance
to
do
what
we
need
to
do?
We
can
go
in
there.
Now
we
can
remove
tenses.
E
Then
there's
been
systems
put
in
place
where
we
engage
with
the
Outreach
team,
the
the
police,
Outreach
team
and
public
health
professionals
where
we
engage-
and
we
say:
okay,
I'll
use
your
name
Eddie
we're
going
to
move
you
out.
We'll
give
you
three
days
we'll
be
back
here
in
three
days:
here's
a
couple
things
we'll
hold
your
stuff,
so
we
don't
need
the
ordinance
that's
about
trying
to
spread
blame
around
if
my
voice
were
being
listened
to
a
little
bit
a
little
bit.
E
We
don't
have
anybody
here
to
say
how
many
ODS
are
going
on
in
the
city
of
Boston
a
week.
I
just
got
a
number
that
is
a
week
50
of
them
a
week.
Most
of
them
happening
right
down
in
the
South
End
in
that
area
or
50
a
week.
Imagine
if
we
didn't
have
knocking
is
that
a
public
health
emergency,
yet
Public
Health
emergencies
would
allow
them
to
be
able
to
do
things
like
what
you
talk
about
change
the
zoning
without
really
having
a
process
which
they
do
anyway.
E
E
A
public
health
emergency
would
allow
you
to
do
those
things
that
happened
during
during
a
public
health
emergency
in
2020,
which
subsequently
went
into
to
to
long
years.
We
spent
millions
and
millions
and
millions
on
failed
programs
putting
people
into
housing.
This
this
ordinance
is
about
housing.
First,
it's
what
it's
about.
We
have
the
ability
to
do
what
we
need
to
systematically
go
in
there
and
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
section
Eddie
today.
If
you
start
sectioning
people
wait
a
second,
we
can't
openly
use.
E
We
can't
do
whatever
we
want
couple
sections
a
day,
but
the
problem
is:
we
don't
have
the
real
program
programs
for
those
sections,
whether
if
they
have
mandatory
sections
or
someone,
someone
decides
to
say,
I'm,
sick
and
tired
of
being
sick
and
tired.
I
put
my
hands
up:
I
Surrender
I'm,
going
into
that
program,
that's
going
to
allow
me
to
go
to
a
repurposed
government
building,
whatever
that
government
building
used
to
be,
did
it
used
to
be
a
jail?
Well,
it's
a
public
health
facility
now
right
and
allow
people
to
stay
in
those
places.
E
E
If
we
took
the,
however
many
people
that
went
into
the
roundhouse
300
people
by
the
way
we
spent
25
million
I
think
still
can't
get
quite
an
answer,
even
if
it's
10
million
it's
too
much,
because
it's
a
failed
program
if
we
spent
the
25
million,
which
I
think
the
number
is
on
just
the
roundhouse
25
million.
If
we
spent
the
25
million
on
repurposing
Nashua
Street
into
a
dph
facility
that
we
could
hold
people
for
six
months,
three
months,
six
months
or
nine
months,
I
I
think
we'd
have
a
chance
here.
E
E
30
years
ago,
my
brother
Ricky
died
of
a
heroin
overdose
March
3rd.
This
was
his
38th
anniversary.
I
had
taken
him
to
a
detox,
probably
10
years
before
that,
and
he
said
to
me
and
I
didn't
realize
I
knew
he
was
on
heroin
back
then
nobody
saw
heroin.
Nobody
knew
what
it
was.
Nobody
realized
how
bad
it
was
and
also
back.
Then
people
were
shooting
heroin.
That
was
five
percent
pure
six
percent,
pure
Maybe,
and
he
says
to
me:
I
got
to
take
a
hit
before
I
can
win
I'm
like
okay.
What
does
this
mean?
E
Bang
right
in
his
arm?
Oh
my
God.
What
was
that?
Who
would
do
that
to
themselves?
A
sick,
sick
person
would
do
that
to
themselves
we're
dealing
with
sick,
sick
people
right
now
and
we're
not
giving
them
the
resources.
We
think
that
allowing
them
to
stay
on
the
on
the
sidewalk
and
give
them
I
think
the
package
should
have
gum
and
cigarettes
in
them
too.
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
on
that
anyways.
We
think
that
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
get
them
healthy,
allowing
them
to
stay
there.
E
If
you
talk
to
people
that
have
been
dealing
with
homeless
for
years,
not
this
new,
because
it's
a
drug
Market
down
there,
it's
nothing
other
than
a
drug
Market
down
there
on
its
party.
If
you
deal
with
people
that
deal
with
the
homeless,
they
will
tell
you
the
people
on
the
street
have
the
absolute
worst
worst
worst
quality
of
life
than
anybody
in
our
whole
society
and
we're
talking
about.
Oh,
we
it's
three
months
now
talking
about
an
ordinance,
an
ordinance.
E
You
have
the
jurisdiction
to
go
in
there
now
and
take
them
out
and
we're
wasting
time
on
an
ordinance.
We
can
already
do
that
so
I'm
very
upset
here
today
that
we
can't
find
out
how
many
ODS
are
happening
there,
we're
other
than
the
South
End
of
people
gravitating
to
them.
Back
to
your
point
and
I'm,
jumping
around
a
little
bit
here,
you
asked
for
the
plan.
E
I
went
to
a
a
public
meeting
on
this
plan
which
wasn't
in
the
district
where
is
being
affected.
They
took
it
away
from
the
district.
I
was
not
even
invited
to
it
now
I've
been
dealing
with
this
for
the
12
years,
I've
been
on
here,
and
you
know
what
the
plan
was
for.
Okay,
once
we
sat
clearing
people
around.
E
What
are
we
going
to
do
in
say:
Edward
Everett
Square
for
the
12
people
that
are
basically
living
there
now
you
know
what
the
response
was.
Oh
call,
311
we'll
send
the
police
out
call
3-1-1,
that's
the
response,
that's
no
response,
because
we
don't
have
that
we
don't
have
the
police
we're
not
supporting
them
and
we're
not
talking
about
arresting.
When
you
say
arrest,
everyone
goes
like.
Oh
we're
going
to
arrest
him.
We've
got
to
put
them
in
jail,
we're
going
to
throw
the
keys
away.
E
No
one
of
the
things
that
happened
during
during
colon
was
the
courts
closed
down
and
we
stopped
picking
people
up
off
of
the
street
for
those
those
violations.
That
might
be.
You
know
a
a
quality
of
life
violation
that
person
when
they
come
in
they've,
got
15
warrants
and
they're
all
drug
warrants.
E
E
All
these
are
small,
we'll
clear
them
all
up,
but
you've
got
to
go.
You've
got
to
go
into
long-term
treatment,
we're
talking
about
housing.
First,
that's
what
this
ordinance
is
housing
first,
it
should
be
treatment
first
and
we
should
stop
with
the
pounding
people
into
houses,
because
every
one
of
those
houses
becomes
a
party.
Now
it
becomes
a
party.
Why
do
you
think
they
don't
want
to
leave
the
street?
Because
if
you
read
the
stories
you're
consistently
hearing
about
this
guy,
that's
from
Rehoboth
or
whatever
that's
living
on
the
street?
E
My
house
has
rules.
You
know
this
is
civilization.
That's
how
we
keep
it
in
control
with
rules,
so
I
think
we're
heading
down
a
wrong
path
here,
Madam
chair,
thank
you
for
having
this,
even
though
totally
disrespected
by
by
the
administration
not
being
hit.
Don't
think
that
we
have
questions
that
we
can
that
we
can
get
answered
in
a
public
forum
how
many
ODS
are
happening
and
let's
talk
about
math
therapy
for
a
second
map
therapy
in
the
last
10
years
has
gone
like
this.
E
Excuse
me
I'm
all
about
Second
Chances,
we're
all
about
Second
Chances
and
by
the
way,
I
section
tool,
my
nephews,
just
this
morning.
It
took
up
my
whole
day
yesterday.
Finally
got
it
done
this
morning,
two
of
my
nephews,
not
one
two
of
them
I.
Hopefully
they
get
it
they're
both
on
Nancy,
100th,
Choice
chance.
That's
your
90th
chance!
E
You
know
at
what
point
do
we
say
all
right?
This
is
where
you
can
go
live
now:
it's
not
great,
but
you're
making
choices
to
continue
on
the
drugs
and
to
say
that
we
can't
section
people,
because
it's
it's
not
it's
not
civil
or
whatever.
It's
not.
You
know
it's
taking
people's
rights
away
from
them.
I
would
argue
that
someone,
that's
shooting
heroin
or
any
poison.
I
was
not
even
heroin
anymore,
I
begged
for
the
days
when
we
used
to
bring
people
to
detox
when
they
were
just
on
alcohol.
E
At
what
point
do
we
start
getting
real
about
this
and
putting
people
into
treatment?
I
call
for
treatment?
First,
not
housing.
First,
let's
get
these
people
in
in
healthy
all
the
people
that
we
talked
are
talking
about
here
today
in
the
IDP
here
in
it's
housing,
housing
housing.
So
what
about
those
families
at
a
local
housing?
You
got
to
get
behind
the
guy
from
Rehoboth,
because
he's
on
the
outskirts
of
Life
he's
an
outrigger
in
life
and
chooses
to
continue,
and
it's
his
right,
I
guess-
to
continue
to
pump
poison
into
his
vein.
E
E
Yeah,
you
can't
do
it,
so
all
options
aren't
on
the
table
so
until
the
only
options
are
on
the
table,
I
don't
think
we
should
be
sharing.
We
should
be
sharing,
as
counselors
should
be
sharing
the
blame
that
is
over
on
the
other
side
of
the
hallway.
The
ordinance
is
about
sharing
blame
and
nothing
else.
We
don't
need
that
ordinance.
People
should
be
here
asking
questions
of
the
administration.
I
appreciate
you
guys
coming
out.
E
I've
dealt
with
you
all
for
years
and
I
appreciate
the
work
you
did,
but
I
want
to
say
when
I
think
it
started
in
April
of
2021
I
think
it
was
a
Thursday
afternoon
right
outside
the
fire
headquarters,
4010
showed
up
40
tents,
they
all
matched
all
matching
Coleman
tents,
maroon
I.
Remember
it
probably
a
pictures
of
it
someplace.
Those
tents
were
given
to
people
down
the
other
end
of
Mass
Ave.
They
pointed
them
this
way
and
said:
go
down
a
mass
and
cast
you'll
get
housing,
because
this
is
what
it's
about.
It's
about.
E
Putting
people
like
that
in
housing
before
we
put
our
people
in
housing,
poor
behaviors
are
going
to
get
you
housing
and
it
was
a
and
it
was
a
crisis
that
was
generated
back
then
by
Advocates
handing
out
tents
and
saying
go
get
on
the
street
when
I
owned
a
restaurant.
If
I
put
a
sandwich
board
out
on
the
sidewalk
I
at
IST
one
day
come
in
not
IST.
The
code
enforcement
can't
have
that
out
in
the
sidewalk,
a
sandwich
board
BLT
with
a
Coke
seven
bucks,
whatever
it
was,
get.
E
E
It's
not
it's
totally
backwards
totally
backwards,
and
until
we
rip
that
Band-Aid
off
and
start
talking
about
it,
real
there's
a
saying
in
the
program
and
I
grew
up
in
the
program,
because
my
father
made
the
choice
to
not
drink
when
he
died.
He
was
56
years
sober
if
he
drank
when
I
was
alive,
I'd
be
more
of
a
wild
person
than
I
am
right
now
so
I.
Thank
him
for
that
and
he
did
it
the
old-fashioned
way.
Abstinence
mention
abstinence
in
a
room
of
mad
people.
E
Well,
they
might
die
that
next
shot.
They
take
so
I
appreciate
you
bringing
God
into
this
conversation
because
I
think
that's
part
of
what
we're
missing
not
to
get
too
much
into
it,
but
the
ministry
works
and
it's
all
about
finding
that
you.
We
are
all
powerless
over
this
stuff,
we're
all
powers
and.
C
E
Allow
this
to
continue
we're
going
to
look
back
10
years
later,
the
the
balance
sheets
kind
of
like
whoa,
look
at
that
New
York
billion
dollars,
LA
County,
probably
2
billion
now
San
Francisco
billion
dollars
billion
we're
on
our
way
to
a
billion
dollars,
and
we
can't
build
the
failed
UPS.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
G
G
So
these
cities
and
towns
across
Massachusetts
and
in
really
across
New
England,
was
sending
people
to
to
Boston,
to
gut
services,
to
get
housing,
to
get
medical
care
to
get
drug
treatment
programs
to
have
your
probation
supervision,
transitova
from
Hampden
County
to
Suffolk,
County
and
then
Suffolk
County
was
responsible
for
you
in
Boston
was
responsible
for
you.
For,
for
housing.
Boston
is
a
very
compassionate
City.
G
G
We
don't
have
the
financial
means
to
do
it
anymore.
We
don't
have
the
services
to
do
it
anymore
and
for
cities
and
towns
to
pass
their
problem
on
to
Boston
is
unconscionable
in,
in
my
opinion,
and
it's
easier
for
a
city
of
town
to
give
someone
a
thirty
dollar
bus
ticket
on
Greyhound
to
go
to
downtown
Boston
than
it
is
to
provide
a
housing
voucher
for
them
or
get
them
into
detox
and
get
them
to
a
job
training
program
in
a
drug
treatment
program.
G
So
I
know
my
colleagues
have
mentioned
that
and
it's
it's
a
it's
a
national
problem,
but
we
can
address
it
as
a
regional
problem
as
well
a
New
England
problem,
but
it's
really
going
to
require
all
New
England
states,
in
my
opinion,
to
come
together
a
deal
with
this
crisis
as
as
Governors
or
or
as
leaders
in
ensure
that
the
towns
and
cities
that
aren't
doing
their
part
on
this
issue
have
to
be
at
the
table
and
have
to
provide
services
and
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
a
couple
of
points.
Council
bacon
mentioned.
G
If,
if
my
probation
is
with
test
positive
for
for
any
type
of
drug
I,
would
I
was
required
really
to
bring
them
before
the
court?
Let
the
judge
know
that
this
person
is
currently
using,
which
is
a
violation
of
the
probation
conditions
and
most
of
the
time,
we
would
recommend
that
the
person
do
30
days
in
detox.
G
I
guess.
My
point
is
following
up
on
Council
of
clarity
and
Council
of
council
Baker
about
the
the
last
thing
I
would
advocate
for
that
person
that
was
using
drugs
would
be
to
get
him
into
a
residential
into
a
residential
program
to
get
them
housing.
That
person
needed
detox.
That
person
needed
to
get
that
drugs.
It
wasn't
even
alcohol.
G
It
was
all
drugs
get
drugs
out
of
their
system
and
get
on
a
path
to
A,
Healthy,
Living,
environment,
and
that
could
take
four
or
five
months
and
it
wasn't
easy,
and
most
of
my
probation
is
almost
all
of
them
relapsed,
maybe
maybe
two
or
three
of
them
didn't,
but
you
still
never
give
up
on
people.
You
still
support
people
you'll
still
try
to
get
people
into
detox
programs,
but
getting,
but
getting
someone
into
an
apartment
is
not
the
right
answer.
G
That's
an
easy
answer.
Getting
someone
into
a
detox
program
is
difficult
because
it's
hard
to
get
someone
into
a
detox
program
to
get
one
person
into
a
detox
program.
It
might
take
you
four
or
five
hours
just
dealing
with
one
person
and
it's
calling
up
and
figuring
out
the
insurance
and
calling
back
in
the
afternoon,
seeing
if
there's
a
bed
available
and
staying
on
the
phone
and
calling
other
people
as
well
at
the
same
time.
G
But
my
final
comment
is:
we
still
have
to
have
hope.
We
just
can't
give
up
on
the
situation
and
residents
demand
our
full
attention
to
hopefully
solve
this
problem,
but
it
is
frustrating
and
disappointing
when
the
public
health
professionals
are
not
here,
answering
questions
just
like
elected
officials.
At
times
we
don't
want
to
answer
questions,
but
we
don't
have
a
choice.
That's
our
job.
Sometimes
the
questions
are
difficult,
but
it
was
a
mistake
not
being
here
today.
G
I
think
I.
Think
Public
Health
probably
realizes
that
now,
but
it's
about
working
together,
it's
about
treating
each
other
with
respect
and
dignity.
Even
though
they're
not
here
today,
we
still
have
to
work
with
Public
Health,
whether
we
like
it
or
we
don't.
They
are
part
of
the
solution,
but
having
not
being
here
today
is
certainly
disappointing.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
I
I
We
just
don't
know
how
to
do
that
here
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
the
people
who
lose
the
most
are
the
people
who
we're
here
to
support
and
fight
for
right
and
I.
Just
think
that
we
have
to
really
seize
these
type
of
situations
to
really
rethink
how
we
are
moving
because
I,
just
don't
think
anyone
is
really
meeting
the
mark
or
the
moments
and
I
haven't
lost
the
cousin
to
a
harrowing
overdose.
I
I
And
so
there
is
something
to
learn
about
history
and
if
we
don't
pause
and
become
more
reflective,
we're
going
to
repeat
history
here
in
the
city
of
Boston,
because
I'm
seeing
a
pattern
on
all
issues
that
are
politically
charged
and
how
we
show
up
or
don't
show
up
for
each
other,
and
so
I
am
not
interested
in
feeding
into
that
way
of
working.
Because
we're
supposed
to
be
leaders
and
what
leaders
do
is
create
space
for
the
people
who
are
living.
I
I
It
is
that
Us
Versus,
Them,
divisive
politics
that
has
put
us
here
and
unless
we're
willing
to
come
to
terms
with
that
is
going
to
keep
us
here.
So
I
would
like
to
re-engage
in
a
way
that
is
really
about
Solutions
and
not
about
pointing
fingers
just
because
it's
the
season
for
that.
That's
not
helping
the
people
who
are
out
there
literally
dying.
I
So
if
we
pause
and
say
the
sky
is
not
falling,
let's
take
a
deep
breath
here.
Let's
really
evaluate
what
we
need
to
do.
What
are
the
pros
and
cons?
What's
the
game
plan
and
I'm,
looking
at
you
all,
but
I'm
hoping
that
they're
listening
right?
Just
so,
you
know:
what's
the
game
plan,
how
we're
going
to
evaluate
that
game
plan?
What's
the
three
month,
six
month,
Mark
plan
right?
I
What
are
the
metrics
that
we're
going
to
utilize
to
hold
ourselves
accountable
to
it?
That's
the
type
of
like
plan
that
I'd
love
to
see.
That's
the
type
of
leadership
that
I
believe
this
moment
requires,
but
this
US
versus
dab,
pointing
fingers
and
who
has
it
worse,
is
not
going
to
help
any
of
us,
not
even
here
as
colleagues
to
be
able
to
work
together.
If
we
can't
see
each
other,
so
I
am
not
going
to
engage
in
political
theater.
I
And
if
we're
going
to
utilize
this
moment
to
think
about
how
we
get
there,
then
I'm
here
for
it.
But
if
it's
going
to
be
more
of
the
same
old
same
old
y'all
can
find
other
political
pawns
to
join
people's
political
bandwagons,
but
I'm
not
here
for
that
so
I'm
going
to
put
that
on
the
record,
because
I
think
it's
really
important
we're
talking
about
people's
lives
here.
I
This
is
not
time
to
play
politics,
and
that
is
what's
happening
here
in
the
city
of
Boston,
with
everything
that
we
have
experienced
now
is
not
the
time
to
continue
to
work
in
this
way.
So
if
I
can
utilize
my
vulnerability
to
bring
people
into
a
different
space
than
I'm
willing
to
do
that,
work
and
I
think
here's
some
things
that
I'd
love
to
unpack
one
is
when
we
talk
about
the
work
that
you've
been
doing
on
the
ministry
and
I.
Think
that
that's
important,
because
you
know
my
colleague,
Frank
Baker
talked
about
spirituality.
I
You
know-
and
that's
hope,
right
and
I
think
that
many
of
us
have
lost
hope
in
everything
right
and
so,
when
that
happens,
what
do
you
do?
You
turn
to
things
that
are
going
to
cause
you
harm,
because
you
no
longer
want
to
be
on
this
earth
right.
Whatever
the
case
is
I'd
love
to
hear
what
your
thoughts
are
of
people's,
because
you
can't
legislate
someone
whether
you
can't
legislate
preventing
someone
to
violence,
you
can't
legislate
violence.
You
can't
legislate
anger.
You
can't
let
just
say
what
people's
personal
choices
are
right.
I
I
K
We
all
have
a
free
will
and
you
can't
legislate
choice.
You
know
these
people
I'm
talking
about
out
on
the
Atkinson
Street.
It's
almost
like
they've
lost
their
ability
to
have
a
free
will
because
they're
in
the
bondage
and
throws
of
addiction,
and
in
my
in
my
world
view
you
know,
I
have
a
Biblical
worldview.
There
are
demonic
forces
that
have
these
people
stuck
in
that,
and
it
is
so
sad
to
see
it's
really
sad
to
see
some
of
the
things
that
I've
heard.
K
You
know
if
they
do
go
and
they
take
the
tents
down
I
I
appreciate
what
this
representative
over
here
said.
Is
that
where
do
they
go?
Do
they
go
into
people's
backyards?
Where
do
they
go?
Where
do
they
go?
You
know.
So,
if
given
the
choice
like
I
was
out
last
winter
at
different
times
in
the
freezing
freezing
cold
I'm,
bundled
up,
you
see
people
with
their
jackets
wide
open,
there's
some
of
them
without
jackets.
All
they
have
is
one
mind
because
they're
in
that
bondage
to
get
that
next
fix.
K
K
That's
where
I,
that's
where
I
would
say,
arrest
would
come
in
give
them
a
few
one-nighters,
give
them
a
one
night
or
give
them
that
list
of
one
night
is
and
when
you're
in
those
situations
which
I
had
several
one
night
is
you'd.
Think
you
think,
where
is
my
life
going?
What
the
heck,
if
you're,
just
out
there
on
the
streets
with
the
same
old,
same
old,
shooting
up,
shooting
up
shooting
up
you're
in
that
you're
in
that
bondage?
K
K
So
if
you
know
I'm
not
real
familiar
with
Long
Island
I
know
they
blew
up
the
bridge
and
I,
don't
know
what
the
works
went
on
out
there,
I
I
heard
Mr
Flynn
say
what
about
a
ferry
service,
but
if
I
was
to
open
up
a
place
like
that,
I
would
make
sure
that
there's
an
excellent
program
there
and
show
the
people
you
know
this
is
the
first
step.
I
agree
with
that.
Having
a
a
detox
program,
you're
going
to
get
clean,
There's
Hope
for
you.
K
If
you
get
clean
right
and
then
we're
going
to
talk
about,
maybe
a
training
program
getting
use.
Getting
you
a
way
to
make
a
living,
maybe
maybe
housing
helping
you
to
afford
house
affordable
housing,
you
know
show
them
show
them
the
program
that
you
come
up
with
that.
There
is
hope
that
you're
talking
about
because
right
now
there
are
a
lot
of
people
hopeless
and
they
just
stay
in
that
Perpetual,
misery
and
pain.
K
And
but
if,
if
I
was
running
a
program
on
something
like
Long
Island,
where
they
come
out,
there
I
would
say
you're
going
to
be
subject
to
a
search.
Nobody
gets
on
that
island
with
drugs
on
them
right
and
you're,
going
to
have
a
strict
program
there,
where
you're
going
to
get
clean
and
a
lot
of
people
you
a
lot
of
people
that
are
hooked,
they
fear
the
sickness
of
getting
clean.
That's
something
that
keeps
them
from
getting
clean
is
the
sickness
of
getting
clean.
K
They
fear
that
they
fear
that
the
agony
they're
going
to
go
through
you
know
and
they're
up.
I,
don't
want
to
take
all
the
time,
but
you
know
there
are.
There
are
people
on
the
spiritual
side
of
things
there
are
pastors.
There
are
Christian
people
that
have
come
through
getting
straightened
out.
A
lot
of
people
I
know
that
volunteered
their
time.
That
would
be
willing
to
go
into
these
places.
You
don't
have
to
reinvent
the
wheel.
K
There's
things
like
Teen
Challenge,
there's
things
like
I
spoke
at
a
Salvation
Army
last
night
and
at
the
end
of
it
they
have
a
detox
program.
There's
a
six-month
program,
somebody
that
was
in
the
first
AAA
meeting
that
I
stepped
into
was
there
I
didn't
recognize
him.
He
had
glasses,
he
had
no
hair.
At
this
point,
he's
shaving
his
head
and
he
came
up
and
he
said
it's.
It's
really
good
to
hear
you
I
remember
when
you
first
came
in
you
didn't
talk,
you
would
just
and
I
went
through
that
period
of
just
pain.
K
You
know,
but
he
said
it
was
really
good
to
hear
you,
but
there
is
hope
there
is
hope
for
everybody.
There's
no
worst
case
scenario
out
there,
where
somebody
is
hopeless,
I
believe
in
God,
as
I
said,
I
believe
almighty
God
can
help
anybody
who
loves
everybody
and
there's
people
willing
to
share
that
love
in
that
Kia.
And
you
know
it's
a
sad
condition.
That's
in,
but
you
know
they're
right
and
I'll
just
mention
again.
K
The
status
quo
I
think
there
are
people
behind
the
scenes
that
I
don't
know
how
to
follow
the
money
Trail,
but
there's
people
that
are
happy
with
the
way
things
are
that
are
making
money
off
the
misery
of
other
people.
Yes-
and
you
can
start
with
the
cartels
bringing
the
fentanyl
in
from
China,
you
know
somebody's
allowing
that
to
happen,
somebody's
making
the
money
and
there's
people
being
paid
off,
but
that's
another
whole
subject,
but.
I
Listen
I
appreciate
that,
because
when
you
talk
about
following
the
money,
you
know
when
we
talk
about
accountability,
there
are
a
lot
of
doctors
who
are
prescribing
painkillers
to
folks
and
are
doing
so
recklessly.
I.
Think
that
that's
another
part
of
the
conversation
that
that's
not
what
we're
here
to
talk
about
today.
But
when
we're
thinking
about
the
whole
picture,
we
have
to
really
think
about
all
of
the
players
that
are
playing
into
the
situation
that
we
happen
to
find
ourselves
in
and
not
that
I
go
around.
I
Throwing
a
lot
of
compliments
to
anyone,
but
I
know
Neil
would
appreciate
this
is
that
you
know
I,
think
that
the
mayor,
really
in
good
faith,
came
into
this
really
trying
to
come
into
this
work
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
meet
the
moment
and
I.
Think
there's
something
to
be
said
about
her
approach.
Right
and
I.
I
So
I
want
to
uplift
that
and
I
also
want
to
uplift
Sue
and
your
innovative
ways
of
how
you
engage.
People
who
are
living
out
on
the
streets
who
are
really
trying
I
mean
like
we
have
tried.
Everything
and
I
think
it's
important
for
people
to
recognize
is
that
we
are
not
the
ones
that
are
going
to
fix
that
problem.
People
have
this
belief
because
we're
the
city
council,
that
we
are
the
ones
that
have
to
fix
this
problem
or
that
the
city
of
Boston
is
responsible
for
fixing
this
problem.
I
It's
going
to
take
every
single
legislator
in
the
state
of
Massachusetts
owning
what
their
piece
of
the
pie
is
and
being
accountable
to
it.
It
is
a
Statewide
issue
that
just
so
happens
to
be
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
until
we
hold
all
of
those
people
accountable
right,
y'all,
keep
thinking
it's
the
city
of
Boston
and
the
city
council.
Y'all
haven't
done
this
y'all
haven't
done
that
because
there's
just
so
much
that
we
can
do
like.
We
approve
the
budget.
I
We
fought
for
the
dollars
that
we
were
needing
that
that
were
needed,
and
right
now
to
the
point
of
like
who's,
making
the
money,
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission.
So
then
we
transfer
those
dollars
into
the
Boston
Police
Department,
and
we
don't
think
that
it's
about
money,
there's
money
there
to
be
made
on
both
sides.
I
Unless
we
start
changing
the
conversation,
it's
going
to
go
in
the
direction
that
it
does
not
need
to
go
in
and
we
need
to
center
it
on
the
people
who
are
living
the
realities
and
or
doing
the
work
in
those
spaces
and
that
I
have
not
heard
anywhere
yet.
So
that's
what
I'm
invested
in
is
that
conversation.
J
Thank
you
Council
for
your
for
your
words
and
and
you're
absolutely
right.
We
can't
blame
anyone.
We
can't
move
backwards.
We
have
to
move
forward,
and
forgive
me
I
am
incredibly
passionate
about
this.
It
is
now
eight
minutes
to
four
and
I
I
just
feel
like
I'm
someone
who
is
on
the
street
every
single
day.
Five
days
a
week.
Okay,
a
couple
hours
a
day,
three
hours
a
day,
I
have
a
team
out
there,
working
I
feel
very
very
strongly.
J
This
is
very
personal
that
what
we're
here
today
and
and
I
appreciate
all
the
counselors
discussions
and
all
today
they
were
all
you
know
they
all
brought
up
great
points,
all
of
which
we
know
okay.
But
you
know
it's
hard
now
to
be
talking
kind
of
half
the
counselors
gone
half
the
cameras
are
gone
because
it's
now
10
minutes
of
four.
So
forgive
me
if
I'm,
if
I'm
a
little
frustrated.
Okay,
that
is,
if
we're
talking
about
whether
this
is
a
public
health.
J
Emergency
I
don't
know
how
there
was
anyone
in
the
world
who
can
look
at
what
goes
on
down
there
and
says
it's
not
a
Public
Health
crisis
and
a
public
safety
crisis.
Okay,
when
when
a
counselor
can't
walk
down
there,
when,
when
I
can't
walk
down
there
and
all
without
a
a
you
know
a
feeling
of
needing
something
that
to
make
myself
safe.
Okay,
that's
that's
not
okay,
but
we
got
to
go
forward
from
that
and
it's.
What
is
the
solution
and
the
solution
is
we
do
need
a
public
health
emergency.
J
We
need
to
declare
a
public
emergency
in
order
to
get
the
things
done
that
need
to
get
done.
We
need
a
recovery
campus.
We
don't
need
it
five
years
from
now.
We
need
it
now.
The
people
who
are
on
the
street
down
there
cannot
live
for
another
four
or
five
years.
This
way
they
we
need
to
find
the
solutions.
Now,
that's
that
this
crisis
is
what
led
the
community
to
come
up
with
a
plan
over
the
last
month
and
a
half
that
we've
brought
out
and
that
plan
by
the
way
was
not
a
new
plan.
J
It's
basically
what's
supposed
to
happen
on
Long
Island,
eventually
in
a
microcosm,
but
it
does
what
needs
to
get
done
and
by
the
way,
you're.
Absolutely
right.
Counselor,
mayor
Wu
came
out
and
she
has
worked
very
hard.
She
she
made
bold
moves
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
but
we
need
the
Bold
moves.
Now
we
need
to.
Actually
this
crisis
is
not
going
to
end
until
we
remove
the
open-air
drug
Market.
We
need
to
stop
the
drugs
on
the
street.
J
J
J
You
know
there
are
people
who
have
said
that
the
the
plan
that
the
community
has
come
up
with
was
not
informed
by
public
health
officials
and
all
it
absolutely
was.
It
was
informed
by
members
of
the
city's
Administration,
the
state
Administration
and
public
health
experts.
Okay,
that's
what
we
need.
We
need
everybody
coming
together.
J
You
know
we
thought
this
and
I
I
have
to
say.
Probably
one
of
the
most
ironic
things
to
me
is
that
I
pulled
out
an
article
today
from
July
17th
2017.,
when
New
Market
and
the
South
End
Forum
came
together
and
petitioned
mayor
Walsh
for
the
long-term
recovery
campus,
that
became
Long
Island,
the
the
concept
for
Long
Island
and
the
kind
well
the
things
we
were
saying
back
then
in
this
article
are
the
same
things
we're
saying
today,
please
we
need
to
all
come
together
to
create
a
full
solution.
I
Thank
you,
Sue
I,
I,
so
appreciate
that
and
I
think
it's
important
I've
assumed
the
role
of
translator
here.
I
grew
up
translating
for
everybody
and
I
feel
like
in
so
many
ways
a
lot
of
the
people
that
follow
me
don't
understand,
what's
happening
in
the
government
space,
so
I
have
to
translate
right
and
I
think
that
we
have
to
keep
going
back
to
the
basics.
We
have
to
learn
how
to
work
together.
I
All
we
know
how
to
do
is
cheer
each
other
apart
and
that's
on
both
sides
right.
Both
sides
are
winning
their
battles
by
themselves,
who,
meanwhile,
the
residents,
the
businesses
and
the
folks
who
are
freaking
freaking
the
that
area
are
losing
and
I
feel
like.
Yes,
both
changes
are
important,
but
those
bold
changes
are
not
going
to
come
with
just
a
whole
bunch
of
blah
blah
blah,
which
is
what
I
feel
like
in
the
last
three
and
a
half
years.
I
That
I've
been
in
this
position
is
what
I
get
a
lot
of
from
the
administration
right.
We
just
get
a
lot
of
talking
in
circles
and
I
think
that
you
all
are
the
ones
that
are
losing,
because
we
have
to
work
with
what
we
have
and
if
what
we
have
to
work
with,
is
you
know
declaring
this
or
that
that's
not
enough.
I.
Just
don't
think
that
that
is
enough
to
meet
the
moment,
and
you
know
the
the
young
man
who
owns
who
who
lives
in
that
area.
I
It's
our
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
you
get
that
information,
and
so
I
think
now
that
you
put
it
on
the
record,
which
I'm
probably
sure
you
have
another
time
but
I
think
we
need.
You
deserve
to
know
and
that's
our
job
as
the
council.
Our
job
is
to
work
with
our
constituents
identify
what
the
issues
are
identify,
what
the
trends
are
and
then
to
write
ordinances
laws
that
will
help
address
that,
but
this
particular
situation
is
so
much
bigger
than
the
13
City
councilors
that
sit
here
and
try
to
legislate.
I
I
Much
and
y'all
can
get
frustrated
as
much
as
you
want,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
do
not
have
the
power
to
solve
maths
and
cast,
and
if
you
think
we
do
go
back
to
your
history
books
and
learn
about
the
three
levels
of
government
so
that
you
can
understand
who
really
has
the
power,
because
it's
not
in
this
room
and
it's
not
even
in
the
mayor's
office.
This
is
so
much
bigger
than
all
of
us
and
until
we
get
to
that
I.
M
Think
the
city
government
created
this
mess
by
the
way
that
they
Fund
Boston
Public
Health,
that
Boston
Public
Health
for
every
addict
who's
out.
There
gets
more
money
every
year
they
get
more
money
because
there's
more
addicts,
it's
like
a
bounty
on
the
head
of
every,
so
they
get
all
the
ads,
so
they
make
it
very
easy.
I
know
we'd
like
to
blame
the
other
cities.
M
We
want
to
blame
the
other
cities
for
not
for
not
taking
care
of
their
addicts,
but
those
people
are
coming
here
for
services
they're
coming
here
for
drugs,
I
can't
ask
Methuen
or
Lowell
or
Lynn
to
open
up
their
own
open-air
drug
Market.
This
is
something
Boston,
Public
Health
is
created
and
it's
the
funding
that
the
city
gives
it
more
funding
the
more
addicts.
M
Instead
of
saying
we're
going
to
give
you
funding
for
every
person
you
get
off
drugs,
they
give
you
funding
for
everyone
that
they
keep
on
drugs,
it's
a
they
that
their
incentives
are
to
expand
and
perpetuate
addiction,
and
that's
the
problem
with
the
city.
That's
the
problem
with
the
Wu
Administration,
the
waltz,
Administration,
minino,
Administration
and
and
the
people
sitting.
Council
not
questioning
the
incentives
that
you've
created.
I
No
I
I
really
do
appreciate
that
that
perspective
and
I
think
it's
really
important
for
those
who
are
tuning
in
to
hear
that
because
I
think
it's
you
know
it's
all
part
of
the
puzzle
and
then
I'm
curious.
If
you
don't
mind,
let's
peel
away
the
onion
a
little
bit
more
right,
so
that's
who's,
making
the
money
like,
but
how
are
people
ending
up
addicted
to
begin
with?
So
can
we
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
piece
like
where
where's.
M
That
at
yeah
there
are
people
who
are
weak.
There
are
people
who
have
problems.
There
are
people
who
go
through
trauma.
Some
of
these
people
have
been
through
trauma.
There's
always
a
number
I
mean
I
grew
up
in
New,
England
I
know
lots
of
addicts,
I
know
more
alcoholics
than
anything,
but
there's
always
the
alcoholics.
You
say
if
I
lived,
what
they
lived,
I'd
be
drinking
too
or
I'd
be
put
a
needle
in
my
arm
and
there's
other
people.
You
always
you
meet,
and
you
say:
oh
no,
they
didn't
have
any
problems.
M
They're,
just
jerks
they're,
just
people
the
same
way
that
people
take.
You
know
awful
risks,
do
stupid
things
and
a
lot
of
the
time
they
you
know.
One
thing
I
am
sure
of
that.
If
you
have
an
open-air
drug
Market,
you
create
addicts.
The
country
with
the
most
addicts
in
the
world
is
Iran
and
Iran
has
the
most
adjectives
right
across
the
street
from
Pakistan
Afghan
understand
where
they
grow
it
so
everything's,
cheap
and
easy.
If
you
make
it
cheap
and
easy,
when
people
want
it.
I
You
know
I
I,
would
love
to
just
hear
this.
This
I,
don't
wanna
I,
don't
want
to
take
up
all
the
space
because
I
want
to
be
respectful,
but
I'm
curious
like
if
we
look
it's
like
the
question
that
we
get
is
how
did
the
gun
get
here?
So,
if
we're
really
looking
at
peeling
away
the
layers,
how
do
the
drugs
get
into
our
streets?
I
How
like
we're
like
I'm,
just
trying
to
think
of
like
just
understanding
all
of
it
like
I,
think
that,
in
order
for
us
to
solve
the
problem,
we
have
to
see
how
all
of
these
things
are
interconnected.
That's
what
I'm
trying
to
help
my
viewers
who
are
following
this
help
us
understand:
where
are
the
levers
of
disruption?
Where
can
we
start
like
I,
understand
and
I
appreciate
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission,
because
the
enabling
piece
but
I'm
curious,
even
before
we
get
there
where?
Where
can
we
peel
this
onion
like?
I
A
J
Was
just
gonna
say
that
respectfully
Madam
chair,
you
know
when
we
travel
layering
the
onion,
it
means
everybody
has
to
do
their
part.
It
needs
enforcement
and
Public
Health,
George
and
I
differ
a
bit
on
on
the
public
health
thing.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
in
our
Public
Health
commission
that
are
working
very,
very
hard
to
try
to
solve
the
problem.
It's
a
difference
of
of
of
of
of
of
of
opinion
and
how
and
how
they
go
about
it.
Okay,
and
we
can.
J
I
Yeah
is
thank
you
Sue
and
I'll
end
Madam,
chair
with
the
whole
understanding
that,
if
we're
going
to
have
a
conversation,
we
have
to
have
a
full
conversation
and
that
full
conversation
require
us
to
look
at
every
little
piece
of
the
puzzle.
Because
only
then
can
we
crack
The
Da
Vinci
Code
on
how
to
handle
the
situation
and
I.
I
Think
Madam
chair
that
I'm
more
invested
in
a
solution-focused
conversation,
which
is
why
I'm
trying
to
better
understand
all
the
different
things
that
are
at
play
to
get
us
here
and
George
has
some
really
great
perspective
in
terms
of
the
role
that
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission
has
or
has
not
played
right
and
I.
Think
that
it's
important
to
get
that
on
the
record
and
I
appreciate
you,
George
and
I
think
that
people
get
scared
of
passion
and
George.
I
A
Will
leave?
Thank
you
councilman.
We
will
have
closing
remarks,
but
I
do
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
Steve
Fox
on
zoom
and
we
have
two,
maybe
one
or
two
people
in
the
audience
who
do
want
to
make
a
statement
and
I
do
have
a
letter
for
count
from
councilor
Brian
Burrell.
First
I
just
want
to
make
a
quick
statement
from
hearing
from
my
counselor.
So
we
hear
I
appreciate
all
of
your
input.
All
of
your
opinions
and
staying
through
and
sharing
I
know
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
again.
A
Absolutely
you
know.
Recovery
is
hard.
The
path
is
never
easy.
It's
bumpy,
but
I
do
know
that,
if
you're
sleeping
on
the
ground
under
a
tarp
next
to
trash
and
next
to
drug
dealers
and
people
who
are
willing
to
take
advantage
of
you,
that
your
chances
of
finding
recovery
are
close
to
none
if
none.
So
we
absolutely
and
I
do
appreciate
what
council
of
Fernandez
Anderson
said.
A
Something
I've
thought
all
along
is
that
the
tents
come
down,
but
then
what
that's
just
one
small
piece
to
the
bigger
problem
here
that
there's
way
more
than
just
the
tents.
The
tops
that
are
keep
covering
people
down
there,
I
mean
people
are
dying
every
day.
We
need
to
make
decisions
and
I
do
as
the
chair
I
will
indulge
one
second
to
do
say:
I
filed
this
hearing
order
and
this
resolution
on
Monday
September
11th
at
noon.
A
A
I
know
that
I
had
sent
them
off
to
Central
staff
on
our
end
in
plenty
of
time,
so
that
these
people,
who
we
invited,
who
I
read
earlier,
obviously
busy
people
doing
important
jobs,
but
it
wasn't
until
this
morning
after
it
was
leaked
to
the
media
yesterday,
that
I
did
receive
the
letter
that
the
administration
feels
that
this
is
unnecessary
burden
on
the
people.
We
were
hoping
who
would
come
to
speak
because
it
will
be
the
same
as
Thursday's
hearing
I.
Think
myself
and
others
made
it
very
clear
that
it's
two
very
different
hearings.
A
A
Let
the
councils
have
one
last
chance
and
then
I'm
going
to
have
Steve,
Fox
and
I
believe
Clifton
and
John
are
in
the
audience
and
if
you
still
want
to
speak,
but
councilor
warrell
wrote
he's,
unfortunately
unable
to
attend
the
hearing,
my
staff
will
be
in
attendance
and
I
will
review
the
video
when
it
becomes
available.
I
commend
the
sponsors
for
their
dedication
to
addressing
the
critical
issue
at
the
intersection
of
Massachusetts
Avenue
and
melnia
Cass
Boulevard.
The
ongoing
humanitarian
crisis
in
that
area
demands
immediate
attention
in
action.
I
will
read
his
four
questions.
A
I
assume
that
Council
Morrell
wasn't
aware
that
the
administration
wasn't
here,
but
I
will
read
them
so
they're
on
the
record,
so
I
didn't
want
any
of
you
to
think
these
are
questions
for
you
to
answer
this
panel
here,
but
I
would
like
to
pose
the
following
questions
to
be
addressed
during
the
hearing.
What
specific
measures
and
resources
will
be
allocated
to
ensure
the
safety
and
well-being
of
individuals
affected
by
the
crisis,
including
those
struggling
with
substance,
use
disorder
and
mental
health
challenges?
A
How
will
a
declaration
impact
existing
Outreach
efforts
and
support
services
for
vulnerable
populations
in
this
area?
What
strategies
will
be
employed
to
collaborate
with
neighboring
municipalities
and
organizations
to
address
the
root
causes
of
this
crisis,
which
often
transcend
City
borders?
And,
lastly,
he
asks:
can
he
provide
details
on
the
proposed
timeline
for
implementing
the
comprehensive
solutions
to
alleviate
the
humanitarian
crisis
effectively?
I
think
that
ties
into
your
question,
which
I
know
and
everyone
who
answered
here.
We
have
not
seen
that
plan.
A
So
hopefully,
this
question
on
the
record
and
yours
on
the
record
would
help
us
also
on
the
console,
get
that
answer.
Thank
you
for
your
commitment
to
addressing
this
urgent
matter
and
he
looks
forward
to
reviewing
the
hearing.
Councilor
Brian
Worrell,
so
I
will
go
to
counselor
Fernandez
Anderson
councilor
Flynn,
and
then
we
can
go
to
public.
A
B
You,
madam
chair,
I'll,
try
to
be
brief,
because
I
do
feel
your
sentiment.
Sue
and
I
do
apologize,
that
the
conversations
do
take
too
long
and
we're
all
very
passionate
about
it.
I
was
really
you
know,
just
deeply
impacted
when
councilor
Baker
was
talking
about
his
family
and
then
you
know
his
brother,
then
his
nephews
was
it
and
also
I
know
that
counselor
Murphy
has
a
very
deep
connection
to
this
issue
as
well.
B
In
terms
of
you
know,
family
members
and
like
I'm,
not
I,
don't
mean
to
speak
for
you,
but
I
can
only
imagine
what
it's
like
for
family
members
that
are
now
counselors
or
Advocates,
or
people
working
on
the
ground
who
have
a
lot
of
experience
in
this
field
today
or
whenever
it.
It
seems
as
though
that
their
time
has
been
dismissed
so
I
do
apologize
on
behalf
of
the
council
that
the
conversations
have
gone.
B
That
way
with
that
I
just
would
like
to
make
three
three
points
and
I
think
you
probably
had
a
statement
to
to
make
at
some
point
as
well.
But
my
point
here
was
that
and
I
apologize
to
your
name
again
Brian.
Thank
you,
Brian
I,
I.
Think.
The
three
points
I
want
to
make
is
that
one
I
do
understand
the
divisive
nature
of
politics.
It's
always
us
and
them
right.
B
I
went
through
this
during
Ways
and
Means,
where
people
would
just
not
show
up
and
when
they
did
show
up
two
or
three
or
four,
they
would
go
half
time
or
Council,
Flynn
being
the
exception,
and
yes,
Council
Murphy.
Those
who
are
here
being
the
exceptions
but
I
think
that
there
should
be
some
kind
of
rule
council,
president
Flynn,
where
we
don't
allow
attendance
to
be
recorded
unless
people
can
stay
throughout
their
full
direct
duration.
B
It
is
extremely
disrespectful
and
I
I
do
what
I
again
I
understand
it
firsthand
being
chair
of
the
committee
that
held
the
most
hearings
and
so
in
terms
of
the
Boston
Public
Health,
commission,
I,
think
I'm
with
I'm
Mr,
George,
George,
Mr,
George
and
but
also
with
Administration
I.
Do
believe
that,
under
the
under
the
guidance
or
at
least
the
plan
of
the
Strategic
Outlook,
that
the
administration
mayor
Wu
has
been
consistent
on
her
policy
in
terms
of
the
tents
or
removals.
B
So
it's
I
do
see
consistency
overall
with
Administration
and
also
when
we
look
at
research
in
terms
of
harm
reduction,
Boston,
Public,
Health,
commission
and
I
deeply
respect,
Dr
jakutu,
not
because
I'm
political,
because
I
have
anything
to
gain
here,
but
personally
I
do
deeply
respect
her
and
feel
that
she's,
a
highly
competent
woman
who
has
a
under
best
practices
and
research,
have
executed
this
plan
beautifully.
However,
there
is
that
component
of
what
you
mentioned,
George,
that
the
more
you
feed
the
beast
right,
the
more
the
Beast
needs
it
or
wants
it
or
it's
Fed.
B
So
in
terms
of
funding
and
the
more
the
need,
is
there
it's
like
the
supply
and
demand,
and
so
we
get
more
money
in
a
city
that
gets
more.
Money
is
looked
at
or
perceived
as
fiscally
healthy
responsible
and
so
to
get
it
or
to
exploit
an
issue
that
hurts
so
badly.
Even
those
viscerally
impacted.
It
does
lend
to
the
conversation.
What
do
we?
What
are
we
doing
here
are
we
are?
B
Are
we
actually
the
perpetrators
right
and
so
I
agree
with
the
more
moderate
approach,
but
I
also
know
that
so
far,
the
research
that
we
have
the
best
practices
that
we
have
even
with
looking
at
Lisbon,
Portugal
and
I,
still
say
that
we
have
not
truly
compared
the
Outlook,
the
Strategic
Outlook,
fully
with
Lisbon
Portugal's
plan.
It's
not
the
same
and
I've
looked
at
Sue
Sullivan's
and
Steve,
Fox
and
other
folks
in
the
South
End
Community
in
other
parts
that
have
come
together
with
an
alternative
plan
for
that
campus.
B
That
I
strongly
would
like
to
go
and
record
I
strongly
agree
with
and
support
so
that
it's
more
manageable.
Then
you
look
at
the
Shattuck
plan.
They're
talking
about
right,
doing,
family
housing
plus
this
you
know
adding
beds,
basically
services
to
the
Shattuck
or
redoing
the
Shattuck,
and
that
I
think
poses
issues
right.
We
don't,
first
of
all,
if
you
you're,
going
to
do
a
whole
bunch
of
numbers,
Quant
just
being
more,
it's
not
about
quantities
about
quality
right,
it's
not
actually
offering
a
holistic
campus.
That
is
manageable!
B
That
is
contained,
and
that
is
what
your
plan
or
plan
with
you
and
collaborators
are
proposing
right
and
please
remind
me
of
the
name
again
for
recover:
Boston,
recover,
Boston
and
so
I
think.
What's
Happening
Here
is
now
the
balance
of
the
mayor
meru,
looking
at
fiscally
what
is
responsible
for
Boston
to
do
if
we're
investing,
if
we're
looking
to
invest
more
with
Long
Island,
then,
if,
if
that's
where
our
money
is
going,
then
how
are
we
going
to
now
create
this
other
plan
that
costs
millions
of
dollars?
B
Do
we
go
after
state
which
I
know
that
the
initiatives
are
going
toward
that
direction
to
get
funding,
or
how
do
we
Implement
a
plan
in
on
the,
inter
in
the
interim
to
Long
Island
Bridge?
The
only
reason
why
I
I
talk
on
these
issues?
It's
because
I
worked
in
behavioral
health,
because
I
worked
with
dual
diagnosed
clients,
because
I've
worked
with
chronically
illness
and
I
was
a
HIV
counselor
for
a
very
long
time,
23
years
in
this
Behavioral
Health
work,
and
that
is
the
only
reason
why
I
speak
in
Lent
I.
B
Don't
I.
Definitely
don't
pretend
to
have
the
the
solutions
and
in
terms
of
us
like
us
against
them
or
whatever,
like
I,
don't
care
about
that.
Look,
we're
going
to
disagree,
we're
going
to
like
we're
going
to
have
some
disruption
in
our
conversation.
The
question
is:
are
we
going
to
do
it
respectfully
and
then
will
we
do
it
in
a
way
that
will
be
patient
to
build
continuity
in
our
conversation
and
I?
Think
that
that's
what's
lacking
in
city
government,
as
you
can
see,
people
leave
early
or
they
don't
show
up.
B
So
how
is
anybody
supposed
to
take
us
seriously?
We
have
a
job.
We
have
a
responsibility
so
to
administrate.
If
we
say
it's
a
demonstration,
hey,
you
didn't
show
up,
but
we
don't
show
up
in
full,
then
what
are
we
we're,
Hypocrites
and
so
I
really
feel
feel
that
let
me
slow
myself
down
because
then
I'll
ramble
and
I'll
take
up
time
and
I'll
do
the
opposite
of
what
I
said.
B
I
was
going
to
do
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
what
I
think
the
problem
is
or
whatever
everybody
here
is
like
half
expert
right
and
I.
We
don't
need
to
go
on
in
lens
about
you
know,
there's
addiction,
there's
mental
health
and
then
there's
chronic
homelessness.
We
all
understand
that
and
then
there's
the
drug
dealing,
there's
four
components.
It
is
not
not
just
the
three
then
does
the
drug
dealing
and
I
want
didn't
want
to
speak
to
this
too
much.
B
But
my
own
personal
experience,
working
with
mass
and
cast
I,
go
to
mastercast
a
lot
I
go
with
either
Moscow
churches
to
do
programs
or
or
volunteer
stuff.
This
day
that
I
got
my
phone
got
taken,
it
was
taken
by
someone,
I
actually
know,
and
so-
and
so
you
know
contrary
to
the
media.
It's
just
so
happened
that
people
are
human
and
it
was
an
opportunity
to
sell
a
phone
or
whatever,
and
then
someone
else
that
I
knew
that
liked
me
right.
B
One
of
someone
that
lives
there
took
it
back
and
brought
it
back,
not
the
police
right,
but
the
police
was
wonderful.
They
were
professional,
I
appreciated
it.
The
point
is:
is
that
look
I
really
appreciate
you
all
I'm
asking
you
to
bear
with
us
a
little
longer
continue.
The
conversation
come
Thursday.
Let's,
let's
have
this
discussion,
I
know,
I,
know
right:
let's
have
this.
This
continuous
possession
and
please
I,
want
to
hear
from
you
so
the
published.
L
A
L
And
it's
hard
to
give
constructive
feedback
like
we're,
we're
all
trying
to
address
this
issue
as
best
we
can
and
it's
a
complicated
issue
that
it
hasn't
solved
itself
with
a
lot
of
effort
and
a
lot
of
money
and
a
lot
of
time
in
one
of
the
smartest
cities
in
the
entire
world.
We
haven't
been
able
to
take
care
of
this
issue,
so
it's
going
to
require
us
putting
everybody
in
a
room
and
working
out
working
our
way
through
these
issues
or
it's
never
going
to
get
to
a
viable
solution.
L
Some
issues
have
been
brought
up
as
a
you.
Just
on
the
ground,
I've
seen
the
answer
to
what
what
about
the
drug
dealers
I
see
them.
Making
drug
drops
on
Harrison
Ave
at
night,
dropping
packets
behind
potted
plants
and
someone
else
comes
and
picks
it
up
and
then
migrates
it
to
mass
and
cast
like
that's.
The
kind
of
information
like
if
the
police
were
here.
L
I
could
share
that
feedback
on
how
to
catch
this
Behavior,
the
the
you
know,
you're,
making
an
ordinance
that
tents
are
going
to
be
removed
and
if
you
limit
the
definition
to
tents,
you'll
notice
that
on
mass
and
Albany
and
Harrison
people
are
starting
to
use
umbrellas,
so
they'll
form
very
large
umbrellas
and
they'll
form
it
into
a
tent
to
escape
the
definition.
So
things
evolve
as
we
take
action.
So
it's
one
of
those
things.
L
You
need
people
meeting
weekly
to
share
this
kind
of
intelligence
between
the
the
city
government
and
the
people
on
the
ground
that
are
witness
to
this,
and
you
can
make
better
and
more
informed
decisions.
When
you
you
have
that
kind
of
information.
You
know
a
plan
was
put
out
with
a
60-day
clock
on
it,
with
no
notice
to
the
Butters
and
no
form
will
notice
the
neighborhood
and
very
little
time
to
react
here,
and
it's
been
rescheduled
three
times.
So.
My
comments
are
just
that.
L
B
L
Yeah
I
stopped
by
your
office
and
no
one
was
there
to
speak
with
me
on
Friday.
You
would
you
would
email
me
and
ask
me
to
speak
with
I
believe
is
shiza
and
I
emailed
her
a
couple
times
and
could
never
get
on
the
calendar.
So
I
came
in
in
person
and
when
that
didn't
work,
I
went
into
the
mayor's
office
and
I
only
got
the
same
thing.
That's
been
sent
to
the
city,
council,
I
went
out,
I
went
down
to
1010,
Mass
Ave
and
no
one
was
at
the
records
room.
L
So
I
had
to
email
the
Press
person
to
get
what
I
got.
You
know,
I
I,
just
you
know,
I,
don't
I
don't
have
I
just
was
want
to
know
what
was
going
on
and
I
can't
get
an
answer.
You
mentioned
that
there's
the
mayor
has
a
plan
and
a
long-term
strategy
like
show
us.
You
know
we
can
give
you
feedback,
we
can
help
people.
People
want
to
help
the
situation.
We
can't
do
that.
If
we
can't
comment
on
what
the.
C
B
My
office
does
close
goes
for
just
summer
time
until
well
through
past
summer,
but
until
December
we
do
close
on
Fridays
because
we're
doing
Civic
engagement
on
Saturdays
and
so
not
to
overwork.
My
staff.
I
am
the
one
who
answers
the
phone
on
Fridays
to
cover
my
staff,
and
so,
if
you
called
I
apologize.
L
B
B
Fridays,
and
so
this
is
just
temporarily
for
a
couple
of
months,
and
so
we
can
do
this
project,
what
I
was
going?
What
I
was
saying
to
you
in
terms
of
community
engagement
or
Outreach?
It
is
on
the
office
of
community
engagement
to
to
report
to
a
Butters,
to
announce
anything
that's
happening.
However,
I
am
taking
responsibility
and
saying
it's
something
that
I
can
do
extra
to
think
about
in
terms
of
ordinances.
B
B
If
I,
don't
have
access
so
I'm
thinking
through
those
policies,
but
today
I
think
the
conversation
is
not
about
me
and
my
office
hours
and
you
having
to
be
frustrated
but
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
and
say
it
is
my
responsibility
and
I
will
I
will
always
accept
the
responsibility
because
we
haven't
gotten
to
know
each
other,
but
maybe
some
one
day
you'll.
Hopefully,
you
allow
me
the
chance
to
build
trust
with
you.
B
B
B
Office,
it
was
from
the
administration.
The
administration
was
responsible
for
their
own
meetings,
but
I'm
saying
to
you
that
when
you
mentioned
the
long-term
plan
that
I
mentioned
long-term
plan,
I
was
specifically
saying
that
there
was
consistency
in
the
Strategic
Outlook,
but
it
sounds
like
if
I
may,
it
sounds
like
you're
just
frustrated
and
dissatisfied
so
far
with
the
service
right,
so
mess
up.
Give
me
a
moment
because
I
allowed
you.
B
This
is
not
the
platform
for
us
to
go
back
and
forth.
If
you
disagreed
with
the
Strategic
plan
or
whether
or
not
the
Administration
has
been
consistent,
that
I
I
respect
your
position
and
if
we
can
continue
the
hearing,
as
you
said,
the
public,
the
testimonies
that
are
that
we
need
to
take
from
whether
to
zoom
or
people
in
person.
C
O
A
O
O
Thank
you.
Counselor
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
to
to
speak
I
I
apologize
for
not
being
there
in
person,
but
circumstances
being
what
they
were.
I
couldn't
be
there,
but
I
did
want
to
be
very
short
in
my
commentary
and
I
want
to
pick
up
where
councilor,
Anderson
and
Brian
just
ended.
I
think
Brian.
O
What
we
would
hope
for
is
a
a
really
full
briefing
on
what
that
plan
is
going
to
look
like
if
you'll
recall,
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
was
the
enforcement
plan
and
the
deputy
superintendent
from
the
Boston
Police
Department.
There
tried
to
answer
multiple
questions
from
the
community
about
what
the
police
were
actually
going
to
do.
O
If,
in
fact,
they
came
upon
somebody
who
was
shooting
up
on
the
sidewalk-
and
we
really
couldn't
get
an
answer,
so
I'm
hopeful
that
that,
at
the
meeting
on
Thursday,
where
the
ordinance
is
actually
under
full
consideration
by
the
council,
that
we'll
be
able
to
get
very
specific
answers
to
questions
that
we
couldn't
get
in
the
working
group
meeting
this
month.
So
let
me
confine
what
I
want
to
talk
about
to
two
things.
O
Onion
I
think
that
for
us
in
this
community
and
for
me
personally
and
for
Sue
Sullivan,
my
colleague
and
for
George,
and
certainly
for
Brian,
that
we
really
have
been
dealing
with
this
on
a
day-to-day
basis
in,
in
my
case,
for
10
years
and
I,
never
imagined
that
10
years
later,
we'd
still
be
having
the
same
discussions
over
and
over
again.
This
is
like
Groundhog
Day.
O
The
ordinance
approaches
this
issue
from
a
strictly
front
end
viewpoint,
and
it's
I'm
hopeful
that,
as
we
come
out
of
this
hearing
and
as
we
move
to
the
Thirsty
hearing
that
we'll
understand
the
importance
of
having
a
back
end,
that
is
beyond
just
removing
the
tense
and
displacing
hundreds
of
people
and
expecting
the
police
and
Outreach
workers
to
manage
a
population
that
is
there.
That
is
then
widely
dispersed
that
we
will
begin
to
understand
why
recover
Boston
represents
our
best
hope
in
that
it
provides
a
bridge
to
Long
Island,
a
bridge
to
a
recovery
option.
O
Even
the
mayor
was
willing
to
say
that
the
original
removal
of
the
tents
and
the
creation
of
The
Roundhouse
had
not
done
the
job.
It
failed,
and
this
community
told
everyone
who
was
willing
to
listen,
that
opening
The
Roundhouse
in
the
middle
of
a
drug,
open-air
Market
was
doomed
to
failure,
and
so
it
is
we're
saying
the
same
thing
about
opening
a
new
facility
on
Mass,
Ave,
Under,
The,
BMC
Bridge,
and
we're
hopeful
that
people
will
listen
to
that
and
we'll
find
Alternatives.
O
A
A
P
First
of
all
to
Council
Murphy
this
meaning
was
of
success,
even
though
the
cowards
didn't
show
up
that
should
be
sitting
here.
I'll
talk
from
the
street,
there
were
cowards
not
to
be
here.
This
meeting
was
a
success
and
Thursday
I
hope
they
will
more
success
in
moving
on
to
what
we
should
be
doing.
I
personally
have
family
members
that
worked
over
on
the
island.
P
P
I
want
to
thank
the
councilors
for
being
here.
Counseling
me
here,
I
respect
what
your
what
Your
views
were
and
what
you
talk
about
politics.
Politics
of
you
know,
there's
a
certain
amount
of
crap
that
comes
out
of
the
politics
and
I
understand
that.
But
if
you're
dealing
with
the
heart
with
your
heart,
things
will
get
better.
P
P
P
It'll
happen
a
lot
faster.
Every
one
of
us,
every
counselor
figured
through
the
numbers,
50
people
and
I'll,
be
there
with
you
and
I'll
have
my
whole
family.
They
all
have
my
great-grandchildren
with
me
there,
because
I
don't
want
them
to
fall
into
the
stuff
that
we've
seen
happen.
It's
heartbreaking,
I
had
a
bunch
of
notes
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
them
counselor,
but
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
couple
of
things.
P
I
had
on
my
union
office,
a
saying
and
I
was
elected
for
a
bunch
of
years
in
in
all
the
offices,
I
gave
one
to
each
of
them
and
all
it
said
was
if
the
people
will
lead,
the
leaders
will
follow
and
that's
how
you
get
things
done.
I
respect
this
body
I've
been
coming
to
this
body
since
ayanella
was
here,
and
it
wasn't
named
the
ionella
so
yeah
that
what.
P
And
if
we
debate
not
shut
each
other
up
will
lead
to
a
compromise.
I
want
to
thank
you.
People
for
sitting
here,
you're
a
lot
more
interesting
to
listen
to
than
what
I
would
probably
have
listened
to
with
some
of
the
leaders
and
I
don't
mean
to
offend
anybody.
I
just
know,
that's
where
it
comes
from.
It
comes
from
the
people
that
get
things
squared
away.
P
P
Mejia,
thank
you
to
the
gentleman
that
spoke
and
showed
the
reality
of
what
happens
with
all
those
needles
and
everything
else
that
we
baby
these.
These
people
are
human
beings.
They
need
to
be
loved,
they
need
to
be
taken
care
of
and,
like
I
said
at
the
at
the
building
over
at
Long
Island,
my
family,
there,
the
big
sign,
welcome
home,
and
so
many
people
left
there
healthy
and
became
good
citizens.
Just
like
this
gentleman
that
had
the
problem
and
I've
had
them
in
my
family,
we've
all
been
touched
by
them.
A
N
N
N
I
know
what
it
is
to
be
from
the
Roxbury
Community,
because,
as
time
went
along,
they
realized
that
they
were
lied
too.
We
can
look
in
Charlestown
when
they
will
bank
robbers
that
just
wasn't
alcohol
that
was
dope
driven
right
now
in
all
those
neighborhoods
that
I
mentioned
they're
dealing
with
being
moved
out
of
their
neighborhood
and
we're
not
sticking
together.
This
is
a
people's.
This
is
about
the
people
and
I'm,
confident
that
we
can
head
in
the
right
direction,
but
we
need
someone
mentioned
the
people
power.
N
We
will
change
the
rest
of
the
country
and
I
truly
believe
that
we've
come
a
long
long
long
way.
So
I
asked
this
body
I'm
100
behind
everybody,
but
we
need
to
push
the
message
further
and
we
got
to
stop
looking
for
outside
groups
to
make
a
decision
here
in
Boston
and
when
it
comes
to
the
different
parts
of
town
that
are
sending
their
disenfranchised
men
and
women
to
our
community.
I'll
say
it
again:
once
we
identify
who
they
are,
those
towns
should
be
responsible
for
paying
some
of
the
bill.
N
J
I
No
go
ahead
because
you
can
watch
this
later,
but
there
was
a
guy
that
was
here.
He
left
really
upset
that
we
did
not
really
listen
to
you.
He
said
that
he's
been
in
the
trenches
with
you
for
a
long
time
and
he
was
frustrated
and
I
think
we
all
are
frustrated,
and
so
he
was
your
biggest
fan
and
we
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
work.
It
is.
I
I
A
This
was
an
important
opportunity
for
the
public
to
hear
from
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission
and
the
other
Administration
officials
that
were
invited.
The
public
deserves
answers.
You've
made
it
very
clear
on
some
very
concrete
things
that
you're
asking
for
that.
You
should
have
access
to
answers
to
so
and
I
believe
that
the
council
right
we
deserve
to
be
part
of
the
conversation
we
deserve
to
be
at
the
table.
A
They
do
have
weekly
meetings
with
the
street
team
and
everyone
involved
I'm
not
invited
to
those
either,
but
maybe
you
could
we
could
find
out
when
they
are,
and
maybe
they
do
let
some
public
attend.
So
they
do
check
in
weekly,
but
the
information
isn't
given
to
us,
or
at
least
to
me
as
freely
or
as
often
as
I,
would
like,
because
I
think
it's
the
information
we
need.
The
public
and
US
need
to
have
the
facts
to
help
make
those
decisions.
These
important
decisions
going
forward.