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From YouTube: Committee on Public Health on March 23, 2020
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Docket #0458 - Hearing to evaluate the City of Boston's preparedness for the coronavirus strain COVID-19
This was a virtual hearing hosted via Zoom Meeting.
A
For
the
record,
my
name
is
Ricardo
Royale
district
capacity,
counselor
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
Boston
City
Council
Committee,
on
Public
Health
I'm
joined
by
my
colleague,
Nakia
Michele,
whoo
Edie,
Flynn,
Kenzie,
Bock
and
drea
Campbell,
as
as
more
come
in
out.
Each
pair
is
also
and
fill
them.
This
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
in
last
streamed
at
Boston
done
at
City,
Council
TV,
so
that's
Boston,
gov
City,
Council
TV.
The
committee
will
be
taking
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
the
hearing.
A
Those
giving
public
testimony
will
log
into
a
separate
public
testimony
zoom
meeting
for
the
link
provided,
please
email,
shan-pak,
that's
sh
a
and
e
dot
P
AC
at
Boston
Grove.
For
that
link,
please
note
you
will
not
be
able
to
watch
the
hearing
through
this
link.
Please
watch
the
intern
through
Boston
gov
City
Council
TV.
A
Until
it
was
your
time
to
speak,
public
testimony
will
be
called
on
a
first-come,
first-served
basis
for
public
testimony,
you'll
be
muted
until
it
is
your
time
to
speak,
we
are
asking
for
all
comments
made
on
one
to
two
minutes
into
a
gate
of
the
same
guidelines
for
departments
in
the
chamber.
Please
keep
your
comments
appropriate
and
germane
to
the
docket.
If
you
are
unable
to
access
the
zoom
meeting,
you
may
submit
written
testimony
to
CCC
dot
health
at
Boston
gov.
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket
number
zero.
A
Four
five,
eight
order
for
a
hearing
to
evaluate
the
city
of
Boston's
preparedness
for
the
coronavirus,
Frank
Kovach
19
as
invited
panelists.
We
have
mark
lipstick
from
the
Harvard
School
of
Public
Health
Martha
Sheridan
from
the
Greater
Boston
Convention
and
Visitors
Bureau
Sam
Scarpino
from
the
Northeastern
University
emerging
epidemic
slab,
a
crystal
Marietta
from
32bj
SEIU
Peter,
Ochs
Antonelli
will
be
representing
the
Suffolk
County
Sheriff's
Office
Paul
Landrigan
is
a
professor
and
director
of
the
global
Public
Health
Program
and
global
pollution
Observatory
at
Boston
College.
He
has
a
background
working
with
CDC.
A
We
have
nurses,
peg
Conlon
from
Kearney
Kearney
Hospital,
Mary,
homeless,
SEC
cornacchia
of
Tufts
Medical
Center,
Ellen
McInnis
of
same
Lizabeth.
We
will
also,
hopefully,
depending
on
unfold
schedules,
have
dr.
Josh
baroque's
from
BMC
he's
the
coordinator
of
their
efforts
to
support
vulnerable
populations
during
the
cold
in
nineteen
and
then,
if
they,
they
also,
if
their
schedules
permit
bamboos
and
Steve
Clark.
President
CEO
and
director
of
government
relations
for
the
mass
Restaurant
Association,
so
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
being
here.
A
This
is
obviously
a
first
I
think
for
the
council
to
do
an
online
hearing,
so
please
bear
with
us
as
we
do.
This
I
just
want
to
sort
of
give
the
ground
rules.
Normally.
We
would
do
this
as
a
panel
or
as
in
three
folks,
at
a
table
or,
however
many
and
then
we
would
ask
questions
of
the
group
for
the
sake
of
ease
since
there's
so
many
cameras
since
there's
so
many
folks
trying
to
make
sure
they
know
what's
happening.
A
What
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
call
on
each
guest,
allow
them
to
have
their
say,
and
then
we
can
do
around
the
questions
from
the
counselors
I
would
give
five
minutes
to
eat
counselor
for
questions
we're
going
to
waive
our
openings
and
so
home
on
one
second,
while
I
figure
this
out
Kerry.
If
you
can
hear
me,
counselor
asabi
George's
is
trying
to
get
in.
A
A
A
Appropriate
and
then
what
I'll
do
is
after
mark
lifts,
it
go
hose,
I'll,
open
the
floor
to
questions
by
each
councilor,
unfortunately,
due
to
them
the
format.
Normally,
that
would
be
in
the
order
that
counselors
arrived
due
to
this
format.
I'm
just
gonna
go
down
the
list
and
give
every
counselor
a
chance.
If
I
put
my
finger
up,
it
means
you
have
one
minute
left:
I'm
gonna
have
a
timer
going
for
the
five
minutes,
and
hopefully
that
works
for
everybody.
If
I
could
just
get
a
thumbs
up.
If
folks
can
see.
B
So
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
and
I'm
gonna.
Just
briefly
tell
you
where
I
think
we
are
and
I
apologize
for
the
quality
of
these
slides
I
have
literally
had
no
time
in
the
last
as
long
as
I
can
remember,
so,
I
put
those
them
together,
mostly
in
the
last
six
minutes,
while
I
was
waiting
to
get
started,
so
apologies
in
advance,
but
I
hope
they.
They
are
clear
enough.
B
B
B
Because
of
the
complications
in
trying
to
estimate
how
many
cases
there
are
one
of
the
real
challenges
that
I
and
many
others
have
written
about,
is
figuring
out
how
just
how
lethal
this
virus
is.
We
think
that,
for
symptomatic
cases
the
risk
of
dying
is
around
one
to
two
percent,
which
is
quite
quite
high,
10
to
20
times
more
than
seasonal
flu,
for
example,
and
what
we
don't
know
is
how
many
asymptomatic
or
very
mild
cases
there
are
underneath
that
surface
of
the
people
that
we
see.
B
B
It
is
not
equally
lethal
for
everyone.
It's
it's
clearly,
much
worse
for
people
who
are
in
older
age
groups
and
who
have
certain
pre-existing
conditions
by
now.
You've
all
seen
this
notion
of
flattening
the
curve
which
really
means
trying
to
take
the
the
outbreak
that
will
be
sharply
peaked
and
slow
it
down
in
in
order
to
reduce
the
size
of
the
of
the
peak
and
maintain
healthcare
ability
to
cope
and,
and
also
to
reduce
the
total
number
of
cases.
B
So
the
reason
we're
trying
to
do
this
is
that,
overall,
if
we
can
flatten
things,
fewer
people
will
get
infected.
It's
also
better
to
get
it
later.
We
will
have
more
information
about
what
treatments
can
be
effective
if
there
are
any
specific
antiviral
treatments,
those
will
be
known
better
in
the
future.
So
if
you
had
a
choice,
you
would
want
to
get
it
later,
not
now,
and
then
the
most
important
in
some
sense
is
that
the
peak
demand
is
less
on
on
health
care
and
the
the
goal
of
all
these
flattening.
B
But
it
is
obvious
and
I
feel
obliged
to
say
this
as
a
public
health
person
that
that,
in
trying
to
protect
public
health,
we
are
doing
damage
to
many
aspects
of
people's
lives,
and
it's
a
balancing
act
for
decision
makers
like
yourselves
to
try
to
find
ways
to
protect
our
health
care
system
and
reduce
the
direct
damage
that
this
epidemic
does,
while
also
trying
to
reduce
the
indirect
damage
that
our
control
measures
do.
And
it
really
is
a
it's
a
balancing
act.
B
But
at
the
moment
I
think
we
balance
is
not
really
what
we
need.
We
really
do
need
to
slow
things
down
as
much
as
possible,
while
then
trying
to
mitigate
the
the
consequences
of
doing
that.
These
are
some
pictures
from
a
week
ago,
where,
after
the
president,
increased
travel
restrictions
and
on
an
on.
B
Probably
a
consequence
that
should
have
been
anticipated,
but
was
not
desired,
was
extreme
crowding
in
airports
and
and
some
of
the
governmental
restrictions
on
public
gatherings
and
on
closing
places
resulted
from
pictures
like
these
from
the
from
of
bars
where
people
were
really
just
not
getting.
The
message
about
voluntary
social
distancing.
B
B
There
are
still
healthcare
settings,
or
there
were
as
of
a
week
or
two
ago
where
hourly
workers
were
had
the
incentive
to
come
to
work
sick
because
otherwise
they
would
lose
pay.
That's
not
good
anywhere,
but
especially
in
a
healthcare
setting.
Schools
have
now
been
closed,
working
from
home
where
possible,
which
we're
all
doing.
B
This
is
a
graph
from
a
from
a
study
that
we
have
recently
completed,
led
by
ron
lee
in
our
department
and
with
colleagues
at
Johns
Hopkins,
and
this
is
really
the
flattening.
This
is
the
sort
of
data
behind
flattening
the
curve.
This
is
the
this
is
Wuhan
China,
where
the
epidemic
started
on
January
23rd,
they
closed
the
city
with
a
really
strong
lockdown
and
what
you
see
is
growing
demand
over
the
next
several
weeks.
B
Four
critically
of
critically
ill
people,
so
these
are
people
who
were
who
would
need
intensive
care,
and
if
you
look
at
a
per
capita
basis,
the
the
highest
day
of
demand
in
Wuhan
would
have
filled
every
ICU
bed
in
the
United
States
on
a
per
capita
basis.
Obviously
there
are
not
that
many
beds
in
Wuhan,
but
but
if
you
scaled
it
up
to
the
US
population,
that
level
of
illness
and
the
population
was
enough
to
fill
every
ICU
bed
and
and
only
a
third
of
those
beds
are
free
at
any
given
time.
B
So
so
that
is
a
situation
that
is
truly
an
overloading
of
the
healthcare
system
and
what's
important
about
this
is
that
the
crackdown
was
on
January
23rd.
The
peak
WA
was
right
around
February
23rd,
so
one
of
the
things
that's
hard
to
sort
of
understand
when
you're,
not
in
the
midst
of
the
crisis,
is
that
people
take
a
long
time
to
get
sick
enough
to
need
intensive
care.
B
So
if
you
could
stop
all
transmission
at
this
point,
you
would
still
have
several
weeks
of
growing
demand
for
for
hospital
and
intensive
care
resources,
and
that's
really
the
reason
why
all
of
these
measures
that
that
we're
taking
at
a
time
where
it's
not
quite
yet
a
crisis
are
really
called
for,
and
indeed
could
be.
You
could
argue
should
have
been
done
sooner
because
we
really
need
a
3-week.
B
The
on
fortunate
problem
is
that
we
have
it's
going
to
be
a
long
haul
if
we
do
control
it,
because
if
we
spread
out
the
demand
for
hospital
beds
and
critical
care,
that
means
that
we
have
a
quite
long
period
of
social
distancing,
maybe
on
and
off,
and
we
could
talk
about
that
later.
But
but
it's
a
long
period
when
we
haven't
built
up
enough
immunity
in
the
population
through
infecting
people
to
to
be
able
to
let
off,
because
once
we
do
let
off
we
expect
more
cases.
B
So
it's
possible
that
this
is
an
overly
bleak
conclusion,
but
based
on
current
understandings,
in
which
maybe
a
third
to
a
half
of
all,
people
are
asymptomatic.
This
is
what
we
think
would
happen,
so
we
need
a
lot
of
things
we
need
most
intensely.
We
need
personal
protective
equipment,
including
masks,
testing
supplies,
ventilators
and
beds.
B
We
have
two
excellent
schools
of
Public
Health
and
we
have
enormous
resources
of
many
kinds.
This
is
the
picture
of
the
of
the
Boston
consortium
for
pathogen
readiness
that
got
together
at
Harvard,
Medical
School,
but
including
people
from
around
the
city
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
virtually
all
of
these
people
are
really
hard
at
work
trying
to
with
their
labs,
which
means
there's
another
10
or
20
people
behind
each
of
these
people
trying
to
make
make
this
response
work
and
then
one
part
of
that
one
specific
part.
B
That's
really
critical
is
being
led
by
the
Broad
Institute
of
Harvard
and
MIT,
which,
which
part
of
the
reason
I
couldn't
make
any
slide.
Since
this
weekend
was
that
I
was
spending
the
entire
time.
Almost
working
with
a
very
talented
team
of
two
or
three
dozen
people
led
led
by
the
Pro
Institute
to
try
to
build
up
a
testing
infrastructure
for
Massachusetts
there's
there
they
are
creating
the
facility
to
to
do
testing
on
an
unprecedented
scale
and
then
they're.
B
A
Sorry
about
that,
so
thank
you
so
much
appreciate
it.
There's
gonna
be
some
bumps
as
we
do
this
first
online
hearing,
but
I'm
gonna
now
open
up
the
floor.
I'll
save
questions
from
my
side
for
last
I'll,
open
it
up
to
the
floor
now
very
briefly.
Actually,
because
I
can
see
everybody
who
has
video
I,
see,
Liz
Brayden
doesn't
have
video
and
Jerry
Campbell.
Doesn't
that
video
can
Janie
doesn't
have
video
so
I'll
get
to
you
all
in
a
second
but
people
on
video.
Please
raise
a
finger.
A
C
C
This
also
wanted
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
their
great
partnership
as
well
as
Mayor
Walsh
he's
been
working
tremendously
with
us
to
make
sure
we
can
get
as
much
information
out
when
the
reasons
why
I
called
for
this
hearing
two
weeks
ago,
which
seems
now
like
it
was
two
years
ago,
was
to
get
as
much
information
as
we
can
out.
Obviously,
things
are
changing
daily,
so
I
guess
dr.
lip
said:
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
announcement
this
morning?
You
referred
to
in
the
PowerPoint
that
Governor
Baker
has
put.
Is
that
enough?
C
I
think
all
of
my
colleagues
and
I
want
to
do
is
everything
we
can
to
address
this
as
quickly
and
efficiently.
Recognizing
that
this
is
going
to
take
is
strong
and
quick
actions.
Now
looking
at
what
some
other
cities
of
what
other
countries
have
done.
So
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
governor
Baker's
announcement
this
morning
and
just
in
your
opinion,
recognizing
things
will
change.
If
there's
more,
we
should
be
doing
or
ways
that
we
can
really
live
up
to
that.
Well,
thank
you.
I'm
gonna
mute
myself
now
sure.
B
I
had
only
time
to
read
the
headline
which
was
pointed
out
to
me
by
a
Globe
reporter
on
a
previous
call.
So
I
don't
know
all
the
details,
but
it
does
seem
like
this
is
a
this
is
close
to
the
maximum
of
what
we
can
do
to
create
social,
distancing
and
I'm.
Sorry,
I,
just
don't
have
a
informed
opinion
about
it,
because
I
haven't
had
time,
but
but
again
to
reiterate,
the
goals
are
to
keep
people
from
being
in
close
proximity
where
they
can
transmit,
especially
in
under
ventilated
and
fluoride
places.
B
B
You
don't
want
to
be
hugging
somebody
outdoors
any
more
than
indoors,
but
but
you
can
social
distance
much
better
outdoors,
because
there's
ultraviolet
light,
which
kills
the
virus
and
there's
much
better
ventilation
so
for
everybody's
mental
health
and
physical
well-being,
I
think
that's
an
important
piece
to
try
to
avoid
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
more
stringent
measures.
You
know
it's
two
weeks
and
we'll
see
where
we
get
to,
but
I'm
not
sure
what
more
can
be
done
at
this
stage,
but
I
guess
I
need
to
read
a
little
bit
more
about.
What's
been
done,.
C
No
I
completely
understood.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about?
There
seems
to
be
some
and
again
it's
evolving,
so
we're
learning
this,
but
can
this
can
this
virus
be
picked
up
while
you're
walking
outside?
If
you
understand
the
need
for
social
distancing,
we've
all
been
banging
that
drum?
Obviously,
we'll
continue
to
do
so,
but
is
this?
Is
this
airborne?
C
B
B
There
probably
is
a
tiny
bit
of
even
a
little
bit
of
the
error:
real
airborne
transmission,
but
if
you're
out
of
doors
that's
much
less
likely
just
because
the
air
is
moving
around
and
your
air
is
not
as
much
shared
with
the
next
person
as
it
would
be
in
a
still
indoor
room,
so
I
think
the
if
the
answer,
if
the
question
is,
is
there
any
risk
from
from
being?
You
know
two
feet
from
someone
outdoors,
yes
and
three
and
four
and
five
and
six
feet
would
be
much
better.
B
C
And
then
my
final
question
is:
there's
been
some
conflicting
data
sets.
Obviously
it's
it's
it's
so
new
that
we
may
not
know.
But
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
impact
on
pregnant
women?
I
know
that
the
UK
has
said
that
as
a
higher
risk
category
I
don't
know
that
we
have
yet
in
the
United
States,
but
just
you
if
you
know
anything
on
that,
that'll
be
my
questions
for
this
round.
Thank.
B
You
I
have
not
followed
that
aspect,
I
think
everybody's
kind
of
specializing
in
what
they
can
manage
from
the
firehose
and
that's
not
part,
the
part
that
I've
followed.
It
is
true
that
many
viruses
are
more
more
dangerous
if
you're,
pregnant
and
I
would
follow
the
UK
government's
guidance,
because
their
sense.
A
So
Thank
You
councillor
Malley
for
questions
and
all
my
colleagues
for
your
participation,
so
some
folks,
just
heads-up
some
folks
have
used
there's
a
zoom,
app
feature
that
allows
you
to
essentially
raise
your
hand,
and
so
several
folks
have
done
that.
I'm
gonna
go
through
that
everybody
will
have
a
chance
and
I'm
gonna
go
now
to
councilor
whoo.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
mr.
chair,
and
thank
you
professor,
so
appreciate
you
sharing
even
more
of
your
time
with
us,
I
mean
everything
that's
going
on.
Could
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
timing,
I
mean
I.
Think
the
big
question
for
everyone
is
the
uncertainty
of
how
how
long
this
will
go
to
vote,
laughs
and
I
know.
D
I've
heard
you
speak
historically
about
how
historically
there
have
been
multiple
peaks
and
not
just
one
that
we
have
to
get
through,
but
when
you
lift
the
measure,
when
will
we
have
a
better
idea
of
how
long
we
might
be
looking
at
and
and
what
are
the
factors
that
you
would
look
to?
Is
it
going
to
be
about
monitoring
actual
hospitalization
rates?
D
B
Thanks,
that's
a
great
question
and
it's
a
lot
of
factors,
and
probably
there
are
some
that
we
haven't
even
realized
yet
because
we're
still
learning
so
much
but
I
think
one
thing
that
we
will
that
will
be
important
is
to
watch
what
happens
in
China
as
they
lift
their
social
distancing
China
other
than
Wuhan
China
put
their
social
distancing
measures
very
intensely
in
place
at
a
considerably
earlier
stage
than
we
are
in
Massachusetts
and
then
most
of
the
u.s.
is
probably
all
of
the
u.s.
B
is
they
had
just
recently
had
it
introduced
and
had
a
handful
of
cases
and
that's
not
true
of
Massachusetts,
so
they
they
had
those
measures
on
for
six
to
eight
weeks
and
they're,
beginning
to
lift
them
now
or
some
of
them.
Maybe
we're
beginning
to
them
a
few
weeks
ago.
So
I
think
we'll
get
a
better
sense
from
them
of
what
what
that
looks
like
and
whether
new
cases
begin
to
appear
it's
going
to
take
a
while,
because
mild
cases
are
easy
to
miss,
but
they
will
be,
they
will
be
a
harbinger.
B
A
second
piece
is,
as
we
begin
to
do,
serologic
testing,
which
means
testing
people's
either
saliva
or
blood,
to
see
if
they
have
antibodies.
We'll
begin
to
get
a
sense
of
whether
there's
a
large
group
of
people
who
got
infected
that
we
didn't
know
about.
If
the
answer
to
that
is
yes,
then
that
will
be
very
good
news
for
our
ability
to
perhaps
lift
lift,
let
up
on
the
social
distancing,
because
it
means
that
there's
more
immunity
in
the
population.
We
don't
really
understand
the
nature
of
immunity,
but
but
that
will
be
another
parallel
stream.
B
So
I
think
those
are
two
questions
that
we
that
we'll
be
watching
for
and
then
the
other
thing
to
say
is
that
hospitalization
is
also
a
lagging
indicator
of
new
cases.
So
so,
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
discussing
in
our
testing
task
force
led
by
the
road,
is
how
to
find
sort
of
the
most
leading
indicators
which
are
going
to
be
the
mild
cases
which
then
progress
to
hospital
as
cases
and
some
people
in
a
fraction
of
those
go
to
intensive
care.
B
D
Is
just
your
thoughts
on
the
healthcare
or
public
health
strategy,
so
assuming
that-
and
this
is
difficult,
because
the
testing
is
so
far
understating
what
the
actual
cases
are
likely.
But
I
assume
there's
a
tipping
point
where
before
this
point,
it
still
makes
sense
for
us
to
be
tracing
contacts
of
folks
who
have
confirmed
cases
and
trying
to
isolate
them
and
isolate
everyone
else
that
they
have
come
in
contact
to
with.
D
B
That's
another
great
question:
yes
and
no
I
think
the
I
this
morning
in
the
Washington
Post
I
had
an
op-ed
that
sort
of
lays
out
a
strategy
for
that
which
is
very
much
been
my
input
to
the
state
task
force
as
well
and
is
shared
by
many
members
of
that
task.
Force
we'll
see
how
it
how
it
all
plays
out,
because
there
is
a
variety
of
opinions.
B
But
my
view
is
that
if
there
is
a
person
who
is
known
to
be
a
case,
they
should
of
course
be
isolated
and,
to
the
extent
there
are
resources
to
do
contact
tracing
that
will
help
to
protect
their
contacts.
The
question
is,
and
the
question
is
sort
of-
do
we
make
that
the
centerpiece
of
the
strategy,
or
do
we
do
that?
Opportunistically?
Because
it's
a
good
idea,
as
the
number
of
cases
grows,
it
becomes
essentially
impossible
in
New,
York
City,
for
example,
realized
last
weekend.
B
Well
the
people
and
on
the
front
lines
realized
before
last
weekend
and
the
mayor
realized
last
weekend
in
New,
York
City,
that
this
was
unsustainable
and
they
switched
and
stopped
doing
contact
tracing
I.
Think
Massachusetts
is
not
quite
there
yet
and
I.
Don't
think
the
public
health
system
is
unable
to
do
tracing
of
the
cases
they
know
about
problem.
Is
it
can't
be
the
centerpiece
of
the
strategy,
because
we,
when
you're
only
tracing
when
you
only
know
about
say
just
arbitrarily
say
10%
of
cases?
B
That
means
that
even
perfect
control
of
all
the
terrain
chains
of
transmission
from
them
means
you're
only
stopping
10%
of
the
transmission,
and
we
need
to
stop
closer
to
half
of
the
transmission
in
order
to
get
the
Cepheid
emic
under
control.
So
it
can't
be
the
centerpiece,
and
if
it
starts
to
distract
from
other
measures,
then
then
that
means
it's
a
bad
Alice
allocation
of
resources.
B
If
it
be
done
it
clearly
should
be,
and
and
especially,
if
they're,
you
know,
if
you
have
a
nursing
home
worker
or
something
who's
exposed,
you
don't
want
to
just
sort
of
say.
Well,
we
don't
have
time
to
pay
attention,
but
my
view
is
at
this
point:
we
should
be
focusing
on
if
you're
sick,
if
you
have
a
respiratory,
if
you
feel
like
you,
have
a
flu
or
a
bad
cold
and
that's
I
know
it's
not
always
easy
to
tell
from
allergies,
but
but
many
of
us
know
that
can
sort
of
feel
the
difference.
E
Thank
you
so
much
I
want
to
thank
you,
counselor
royal,
for
chairing
our
first
virtual
hearing
very
important
topic.
Many
thanks
to
the
sponsors
of
this
year
me
and
all
my
colleagues
for
all
the
work
that
you've
been
doing
in
the
last
several
weeks
in
months
and
thank
you
to
our
panelists
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
speak
more
to
capacity
around
testing
and
capacity
around
beds
and
where
you
think
we
are
in
Boston
and
mass
based
on
what
you,
where
you
see
the
curve.
B
Yeah,
so
on
testing,
it's
being
it's
being
increased
massively
now,
thanks
to
really
a
great
collaboration
with
the
state
DPH
and
the
road
and
and
many
academic
and
and
public
sector
and
private
sector
groups,
it's
not
enough
to
do
testing
of
everybody
who
might
be
sick
and
probably
won't
be
in
the
next
few
weeks,
but
it
will
be
it
might
be,
especially
if
we
get
the
epidemic
under
control
through
social
distancing
measures.
It
might
begin
to
be
that,
as
we
scale
up
further
say
a
month
from
now.
F
B
And
I've
even
written
about
that
and
now
slipping
back
into
bad
habits.
So
thank
you
for
it
for
that
point,
I
think
the
as
I
said
before
the
the
virus,
transmits
through
physical
direct
contact
and
through
physical
closeness,
because
of
coughing
and
sneezing
and
other
sort
of
ways
of
getting
it
from
one
human
to
another.
B
E
I
guess
I'm
just
back
to
the
capacity
question
in
terms
of
testing
I
understand
that
many
more
are
available,
we're
doing
more
tests
and
more
people
are
testing
positive
because
more
tests
are
available.
I
guess
my
question:
if
testing
is
part
of
the
strategy
for
controlling
the
curve,
do
we
are
we
yet
at
the
capacity
we
need
to
be
at
to
control
the
curve?
Are
we
doing
enough
to
control
it,
or
are
we
just
finally
starting
to
keep
up
no.
B
B
per
capita
has
done
30
times
less
testing
than
South
Korea
per
capita,
and
so
we're
and
Korea
is
one
of
the
countries
that
use
very
widespread
testing
as
part
of
its
control
measure
and
there's
it's
hard
to
compare,
because
the
number
of
cases
is
different
and
all
of
that,
but
but
in
in
short,
no,
we
do
not
have
the
capacity
to
do
what
some
people
are
very
strongly
advocating,
which
is
essentially
to
be
able
to
contact
trace
everybody
both
both
because
we
have
too
many
cases
and
because
we
have
too
few
tests.
I,
don't.
E
E
So
my
last
question
I
know
my
colleagues,
other
colleagues
want
to
jump
in
here,
but
it
is
around
tracing
and
so
I
know
that
has
to
be
part
of
the
strategy.
I
worry
that
as
more
and
more
cases
are
identified,
it's
gonna
be
harder
and
harder
for
us
to
trace
and
I
also
worry
about
the
messaging
and
so
as
we're
speaking
with
families
about
point
of
origin
and
who
was
in
contact
with
home.
B
Right,
I
I
couldn't
agree
more.
That
is
not
my
specialty
and
I
wish.
I
had
better
answers,
but
I
think
you
know
we're
all
we're
all
dealing
with
it.
We're
we
have
kids
every
what's.
People
have
multiple
generations
in
their
household
and
I
think
the
challenges
that
you
want
to
inspire
people
to
be
careful
and
to
protect
themselves
both
as
as
recipients
of
infection
and
as
donors
of,
and
you
also
don't
want
your
your
child
to
feel
guilty
for
infecting
somebody
that
they.
E
E
G
That's
one
question
and
then
the
other
question
that
I
have
is
in
regards
to
what
best
practices
that
you
might
be
able
to
share
with
those
who
are
health
workers
who
have
to
report
to
work
in
terms
of
how
do
you
best
protect
yourself?
Well,
you
have
to
be
in
close
proximity
to
folks
any
best
practices
that
you
can
share
around
that
okay,.
B
Usually
it's
not
so
much
that,
what's
on
the
other
side
of
that
window
is
changing
it's
that
your
view
of
it
is
changing,
and
that
almost
is
almost
always
the
best
way
to
imagine
new
information
is
that
we're
we're
learning
more
of
something.
That's
that
hasn't
changed
so
much
rather
than
and
I
use
that
metaphor,
because
I
think
we're
it's.
It's
so
confusing
to
get
all
this
information
for
for
specialists,
as
well
as
people
who
have
other
things
to
do
in
life.
B
Besides,
study
viruses,
but,
for
example,
there's
no
evidence
at
all
that
the
virus
has
changed.
There
is
evidence
that
our
understanding
of
who
it
can
infect
has
changed
and,
and
that's
in
two
ways
so
that
early
on,
we
thought
children
might
not
even
be
getting
infected
and
then
from
particularly
one
study
in
southern
China,
but
also
from
other
data.
H
B
So
when
you
refer
to
the
new
information
about
younger
people
getting
infected,
you
might
be
referring
to
the
CDC's
port
that
came
out
a
few
days
ago
and
again,
the
the
issue
there
is
that,
in
order
to
be
a
known
case
in
the
United
States
in
the
presence
of
inadequate,
highly
inadequate
testing,
you
either
have
to
be
a
severe
case,
or
you
have
to
be
some
somehow
happen
to
get
into
the
happen
to
get
observed
by
Public
Health.
But
the
best
way
to
get
observed
by
Public
Health
is
to
be
severe.
B
So
if
you
look
at
all
the
cases,
there
may
not
be
that
many
severe
cases
in
children
and
there
aren't
that
many
compared
to
the
mild
cases,
but
the
ones
who
get
in
the
dataset,
the
ones
who
get
in
the
paper
and
get
analyzed,
are
preferentially
the
severe
ones
they're.
The
ones
who
who
got
tested
and
got
confirmed
so
that
is
not
a
I,
was
a
little
surprised
to
see
that
come
out
of
a
place
like
the
CDC,
because
it
was
very
misleading.
In
some
sense,
it
wasn't
lying
about
what
the
data
said.
B
I
B
Then
the
the
last
thing
to
say
is
it's
a
continuum.
So
there
are
severe
cases
in
every
age
group.
There
are
more
severe
cases
in
older
age
groups
as
a
proportion
of
all
cases,
so
your
risk
is
going
up
with
with
your
age,
but
but
it's
that
does
not
mean
that
every
case
in
small
people
or
young
people
is
mild.
It
just
means
more.
More
of
them
are
I
hope
that
I
hope
that
helps
yeah.
H
B
You
have
other
speakers
today
who
are
really
expert
in
that
and
I
would
just
say
that
that
every
epidemic
that
I
know
of
has
been
more
severe
in
vulnerable
populations.
For
all
the
obvious
reasons
with
a
respiratory
virus,
I
think
there's
a
particular
concern
about
poorly
ventilated,
dry
places,
where
which
includes
a
number
of
the
shelters
that
I've
been
been
in.
In
my
life,
I
mean
I
visited
in
my
life
and
I.
G
B
B
It's
a
sort
of
a
whole
discussion
in
itself
and
it's
not
I'm,
not
a
healthcare
worker
and
and
I,
don't
want
to
really
get
into
the
details
because
again
it's
not
where
I
can
add
value
over
other
speakers
today,
but
I
think.
The
crucial
issue
is
that
personal
protective
equipment
is
in
very
very
short
supply.
This
is
a
national
failure
and
we
should
all
be
banging
on
the
doors
of
our
federal
representatives
to
fix
to
fix
this
problem
by
shifting
manufacturing
on
a
massive
scale
to
making
personal
protective
equipment.
A
I
see
I've
professor
Lewis.
If
you
can
hold
for
a
second
our
nurse
from
Kearney,
it's
is
it
Margaret
common.
You
can
unmute
Miss
Conlan.
She
has
to
leave
at
2:00
p.m.
so
I
just
want
to
give
her
a
chance
to
speak.
Many
of
us
know
that
Kearney
is
converting
over
to
being
a
full
coronavirus
hospital,
and
so
I
would
just
like
to
give
her
a
chance.
So
Miss
Conlan
you
have
the
floor.
A
A
J
Okay,
you
know
I
guess
my
biggest
thing
that
I
would
like
people
to
know
is
that
we
do
not
have
the
PPE
to
take
care
of
the
patients
properly
and
my
fear
is
that
we're
going
to
be
spreading
it
more
than
we
need
to
and
that
the
nurses
are
going
to
start
getting
sick.
So
that's
probably
the
biggest
thing
we
don't
have
the
equipment.
We
need
to
do
the
job.
A
Peggy
so
first
off
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
the
work
you're
doing
I
know
I
speak
on
behalf
of
my
colleagues.
We
understand
that
work
is
very
difficult
and
very
integral
right
now,
I
have
some
questions
specific
to
the
carnie.
So
what
what
measures
is
the
carnie
implemented
as
you're,
aware
of
or
for
what's
happening
now?
A
J
So
so
what
they
did
was
make
a
a
floor.
They
took
a
floor,
the
fifth
floor.
We
made
it
a
negative
pressure
area,
so
I
think
they're,
probably
10
beds
up
there
in
those
beds.
What
they're
doing
is
any
other
Stewart
Hospital
that
has
a
patient
that
test
positive
in
Massachusetts
will
can
be
sent
here,
but
we
also
have
our
own
patients
that
might
have
been
on
another
floor
and
they
test
positive
Silvia
lobia.
J
So
that's
what
they
did
in
that
particular
area
and
and
I
think
there
are
plans
to
do
more
of
that,
although,
as
the
staff,
we
don't
always
get
to
know
everything
that's
going
on,
but
there
is
like
one
specific
geographical
area
that
the
positive
patients
are
going
to,
except
for
the
patients
that
are
really
really
sick,
that
a
positive
they're
in
the
ICU.
Okay.
A
J
I
J
A
A
K
Counsel,
Arroyo
and
I
give
you
to
the
central
staff
all
for
putting
this
on
and
for
the
professor
timoni
I
know.
This
is
a
difficult
time
for
everyone.
We
file
like
this
epic
one
issue,
one
issue,
I
fo
and
had
a
conversation
with
some
nurses
recently,
is
getting
them
equipment
that
they
need.
It's
critical,
that
we
continue
to
provide
the
necessary
resources
for
our
nurses,
medical
professionals,
that
desperately
need
this,
like
conversations
with
nurses
as
well
from
various
hospitals
and
talk
to
the
masses,
Association
and
they're
doing
an
outstanding
job.
K
J
I
mean
I'm,
not
sure,
but
the
public
can
do,
except
for
because,
what's
really
you
know,
the
scary
part?
Is
people
want
the
n95
mask,
which
is
a
mask
that
we
get
fitted
for
annually?
That
helps
prevent
droplets
from
being
in
heels,
or
you
know,
for
us
to
breathe
them
in
at
whatever,
though,
seems
to
be
the
hottest
thing
to
get
our
hands
on
and
those
are
the
things
we
want,
the
most
so
I
know
there
are
people
out
the
public
that
are
talking
about
like
sewing,
masks
and
different
things
like
that.
J
I
just
don't
know
that
they
take
care
of
the
droplet
the
same
way
that
the
n95
mask
would
do
so.
That's
probably
the
big
thing
in
95
masks,
I,
don't
know
where
else
to
get
them
the
yellow,
gowns
and
also
the
face
masks.
Those
are
probably
the
biggest
things,
because
you
know
we
don't
mind
going
in
the
room.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
covering
that
we're
not
bringing
it
home.
The
other
issue
is,
you
know.
J
We
know
that
we've
been
in
rooms
where
we've
been
exposed
to
the
virus
and
there
really
isn't
anything
they're
doing
here
to
test
people
or
say
you
know
what
should
I
do
other
people
quarantine
themselves
because
they
wouldn't
yes,
someone
who
wasn't
really
even
sick
with
the
virus,
but
here
we
know,
we've
been
in
the
room
with
someone
who
was
sick,
maybe
unprotected.
We
didn't
know
they
had
it
at
the
time
and
we're
not
quarantining
ourselves
to
our
fear.
Is
that
we're
like
spreading
it
instead
of
giving
it
better.
K
Right
and
what
one
part
of
that
I
was
talking
to
some
nurses
recently
and
they
want
the
ability
to
you
know
quarantine
if
they
are
exposed
to
patients
but
quarantine.
Hopefully,
these
colleges
and
universities
will
have
dorm
rooms
available
where
nurses
can
quarantine
in
these
rooms
so
that
they're
not
bringing
back
the
coronaviruses
to
their
own
families
following
their
shift.
So
that
would
that
be
a
critical
part
of
this
public
health
outreach
as
well.
J
H
J
Exactly
sure
why
we
became
the
hub
for
this
because
it
doesn't
seem
like
we
really
have
any
more
of
equipment
than
anybody
else.
It
gets
sort
of
like
divvied
out.
You
know
when
the
morning,
okay,
we're
just
gonna
with
at
this
end,
but
by
the
time
the
nice
staff.
By
the
time
we
come
back
in
in
the
morning,
it
seems
like
every
you
know.
People
will
tell
us
they
didn't
have
what
they
needed
during
the
night.
A
L
A
L
You
councillor
cork
Ricardo,
and
thank
you
for
the
to
the
co-sponsors
as
well,
and
thank
you
guys
for
purchase
and
thank
you
guys
for
participating
on
this
call.
Just
my
two
quick
questions
are
one
has
to
do
with
infants,
not
only
because
I
have
a
three-month-old
but
also
been
getting
questions
from
folks
in
the
community
with
respect
to
infants
versus
toddlers
or
children
generally,
and
then
the
second
has
to
do
with
HIPAA
requirements
in
compliance.
So
as
counselors
as
you
can
imagine,
many
of
us
have
been
asking
questions
around
the
data.
L
So
when
we
hear
about
confirmed
cases
now
a
deaths
in
the
City
of
Boston,
we
would
like
to
know
it.
I
would
like
to
know
you
know
what
neighborhood
are
these
confirmed
cases
showing
up
in?
Where
is
the
desk,
and
we
and
some
folks
have
pushed
back
saying,
HIPAA
issues.
I,
disagree,
but
I'm
just
curious
in
your
line
of
work
if
you've
seen
that
come
up
and
if
the
HIPAA
laws
and
rules
frankly
go
out
the
window
with
respect
to
infectious
diseases
and
other
other
laws.
Thank
you.
Thank.
J
You
and
so
I'm
really
an
adult
critical
care
exam,
so
you
where
to
cater
so
I,
don't
know
when
we
think
about
infants
and
children.
So
I'm,
sorry
but
I
do
know
that
nurses
have
been
concerned
that
when
a
fellow
staff,
member
or
a
question
that
someone
has
gone
out,
the
nurse
will
say
you
know
when
they
did
they
test
positive.
What
they
were
symptomatic
and
we'll
hear.
Oh
I
can't
tell
you
that
it's
a
HIPAA
violation,
but
it's
kind
of
like
well
I,
should
know,
should
I
was
exposed
to
it.
J
L
A
You
so
people
on
video,
unfortunately
I
getting
a
little
bit
of
an
advantage
and
that
I
can
see
them
quickly.
So
anybody
on
video
have
any
questions.
What
I
haven't
called
for
in
this
common?
No
okay.
So
if
you
can
unmute
Madol
Malley
who's,
not
on
video.
Very
briefly,
that's
what
makes
Matt
do
you
have
any
questions,
councillor
O'malley.
Do
you
have
any
questions
from
his
comment?
I'm.
C
F
F
A
M
A
N
Hi
thanks
so
much
mr.
chairman
doctor.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
with
us.
I
think
it's
a
moment
where,
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
anxiety
and
information
can
really
help
to
quell
that
and
also
help
people
do
the
right
thing
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
speak
a
little
bit
about
on
your
slides.
You
had
mention
of
sort
of
ventillation
and
humidification
for
buildings
and
I
mean
obviously
there's
questions
of
the
level
of
ventilation
that
we
build
our
buildings
with,
but
in
terms
of
the
buildings
that
we
actually
have.
B
My
understanding
is
the
obvious
stuff
is
opening
windows
improves,
ventilation
using
air,
purifiers
improves
circulation
and,
and
they
can
help
and
using
humidifiers
also
helps,
and
then
the
other
thing
that
I've
understood
from
him
is
that
the
HVAC
systems
in
many
buildings
have
have
filters
that
are,
you
know,
haven't
been
changed
on
the
regular
schedule
and
can
be
replaced
for
a
few
dollars
and
that
that
makes
a
big
difference,
but
I
am
NOT
a
building
engineer
by
any
stretch.
So
that's
my
layman's
understanding
well,.
N
Thank
you
appreciate
on
the
less
and
then
I
was
all
ready
to
go
just
speak
a
little
bit.
It
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
many
of
us
have
been
reading
and
hearing.
Is
that
and
you
alluded
to
it,
that
it
seems
as
though
that
Cyrus
might
be
spread
more
by
asymptomatic
individuals
than
your
typical
virus,
and
if
you
could
just
say
whether,
whether
that's
true
and
sort
of
in
light
of
that,
obviously
that's
my
layman's
understanding.
N
Part
of
the
reason
why
social
distancing
is
so
important
and
part
of
the
reason
why
we
just
need
people
in
general
to
minimize
their
trips.
But
I
would
love
to
hear
your
thoughts
on,
given
that
you
know
when
in
situations
where
we
do
need
volunteers
in
person
for
things
and
situations
where
people
have
to
interact
with
others,
and
they
aren't
symptomatic
themselves
yet
like
what
should
what
should
people
be,
especially
thinking
about
and
doing,
yeah.
B
So
there's
some
controversy,
I
think
most
of
my
colleagues
think
that
there's
a
significant
contribution
from
asymptomatic
transmitters,
it's
not
totally
settled
in
the
World
Health
Organization
has
been
making
the
opposite
claim
and
I've
been
trying
so
hard
without
success
to
understand
the
basis
of
that
claim.
So
so
it's
an
area
of
controversy
and
I.
Don't
usually
it's
not
my
habit
to
disagree
with
the
World
Health
Organization,
unless
I've
tried
very
hard
to
understand
their
position
and
I
have
and
I.
Don't
it's
not
really
more
than
other
viruses.
B
Flu
probably
is
kind
of
similar
to
what
we
think
coronavirus.
This
Carano
virus
does
in
terms
of
practicalities.
What
it
really
means
is
that
you
should
keep
social
or
physical
distance
not
only
from
sick
people,
especially
from
sick
people,
but
also
from
from
others
as
well
as
possible.
That
obviously
is
continuum
if
it's
a
spouse
or
a
sibling
or
whatever
that's
going
to
be
different
from
from
a
non
household
member,
but
it
just
means
that
there
is
some
amount
of
transmission
that
you
can't.
B
B
I
B
Can't
bring
it
to
zero,
but
but
one
of
the
things
about
infectious
disease
epidemiology
is
that
you
can
bring
the
number
of
cases
down
without
getting
transmission
to
zero.
Otherwise,
we'd
never
have
a
decline
in
the
number
of
cases.
We
just
have
to
cut
it
down
enough
so
that
each
case
doesn't
generate
more
than
one
other
case
right.
N
And
on
that
front
you
know
if
I'm
in
the
grocery
store-
and
someone
gets
close
to
me,
like
you
know-
should
I
eat
should
I
be
doing
this?
Should
I
I
mean
we
want
to
save
our
masks
right
now?
For
our
you
know
our
medical
first
responders,
but
people
be
wearing
scarves.
Bandanas
I'm
just
curious.
How
much
you
think
that
yeah.
B
I,
don't
think
it
hurts.
The
evidence
is
pretty
soft
on
masks
and
I
got
a
question
from
a
reporter
this
morning.
About
this
you
know,
I,
don't
think
people
should
go
out
and
buy
masks,
because
we
need
them
for
health
care
workers
and
the
evidence
that
for
regular
people
they
they
do
much
good,
as
is
unclear,
but
but
if
you
have
a
bandana
or
you
can
sew
a
mask,
it's
probably
not
a
not
going
to
hurt.
A
F
You
thank
you
so
much
for
holding
this
hearing.
One
question
I
had
was,
with
regard
to
concerns
about
health
care
workers
having
to
reuse,
masks
and
trying
to
get
extend
the
shelf
life
of
these,
and,
if
it's
not
a
specialized
mask
so
can
you
speak
to
the
dangers
or
risks
of
redoing,
reusing
or
masks
that
have
been
used?
All
shifter
I
am
hearing
some
rather
concerning
reports
about
health
professionals,
reusing
masks.
Thank
you.
B
Yeah
I,
don't
have
anything
specific
to
say,
except
that
it's
clearly
worse
than
then
using
them.
The
way
they're
directed
I
mean
they.
They
do
get
begin
to
break
down
over
time.
They
yeah
I,
mean
I,
don't
know
the
details,
but
but
clearly
this
is
a
second
best
solution.
When
we
don't
have
enough
masks.
L
I
just
have
two
questions.
Thank
you
very
much.
First
of
all
for
joining
us
in
taking
this
time
really
appreciate
it.
Two
questions
the
same.
One
is
with
respect
to
infants.
If
there's
anything,
if
you
have
anything
to
add
there
or
if
you
know
a
little
bit
more
and
then
the
second
has
to
do
with
just
the
HIPAA
issues,
in
sort
of
that
being
dipped
being
making
a
challenging
to
get
information.
B
A
And
so
with
that
I'm
gonna,
just
thank
you
for
being
here.
I'll
do
one
more
quick
round
if
folks
have
questions,
but
one
of
my
one
of
my
questions
that
I
do
like
to
ask
in
these
instances
is
I
know
you've
answered
a
lot
of
questions
for
a
lot
of
different
folks,
not
just
here,
but
over
the
last
week
or
so.
Have
there
been
questions
that
you
wished
have
gone?
Ask
that
when
asked
is
there
anything
that
you
think
folks
aren't
necessarily
focusing
on
that
they
should
focus
on.
B
That's
a
good
question:
I
mean
I,
think
I.
Think
the
the
big
issues
in
my
domain
of
expertise
have
been
covered.
I
think
you
know,
because
it's
because
I'm
a
layman
in
the
other
domains
I'm
much
more
concerned
about
about
the
questions
like
vulnerable
populations
and
the
economic
impact,
and
all
of
that,
because
I
think
we
are
in
a
potentially
quite
long-term
slowdown
in
economic
activity
and
so
to
the
extent
that
the
City
Council
is
able
to
really
keep
an
eye
on
the
disruptions
of
Education
and
people's
pocketbooks.
B
A
B
B
The
vast
majority
of
people
who
get
infected
will
mount
an
immune
response
that
will
be
protective
against
future
infections
to
varying
degrees,
what's
known
from
other
corona
viruses,
not
not
that
closely
related
to
this
one
sort
of
in
a
different
class
of
corona
viruses,
but
still
corona
viruses
is
that
if
you
experimentally
in
a
lab,
give
a
human
an
infection
with
a
common
cold
type
corona
virus
and
that
a
year
later
give
them
an
infection,
try
to
give
them
an
infection
with
the
same
virus.
There
they're
less
likely
to
get
sick.
B
So
reinfection
is
a
is
a
possibility.
A
year
later
we
don't
know
this.
We
would
expect,
because
the
infections
are
a
bit
more
intense
with
this
virus
that
people
will
be,
will
have
a
stronger
and
longer
lasting
immune
response,
and
some
of
the
stories
that
have
come
out
suggesting
that
nobody,
that
people
don't
sorry
that
people
get
reinfected
some
of
those
stories.
Maybe
all
of
them
are
cases
where
someone
tested
negative
and
then
very
soon
afterwards.
B
Tested,
positive
and
I
have
been
very
strongly
at
the
opinion
and
most
experts
in
immunology
and
other
other
related
fields.
That
I
have
seen
quoted,
say
the
same
thing,
which
is
that
most
likely
that's
a
false
negative
test.
So
they
were
positive.
The
whole
time
and
one
of
the
tests
looked
negative
because
they
didn't
swab
the
right
place
or
or
whatever
and
in
infectious
disease
epidemiology.
G
You
know
what
happens
when
you
are
almost
when
the
virus
has
gotten
to
the
point
where
you're
just
going
to
lose
your
life,
but
we
don't
hear
often
what
it
looks
like
when
you
are
sick
can.
Can
you
help
our
audience
understand
what
it
looks
like
when
you
have
the
corona
virus
what's
happening
to
you?
Is
it
just
you
it's
just
a
cold,
then
you
get.
Does
it
just
go
away?
B
I'm,
not
a
medical
doctor
and
I
very
strongly.
Try
to
keep
in
my
realm
of
expert,
so
I'm
gonna
answer
that
briefly
and
hope
that
one
of
your
later
speakers
will
give
you
more
details,
there's
clearly
a
spectrum
there
from
from
very
mild
disease,
where
you
maybe
just
hardly
know
you
have
it
or
think
you
have
a
cold
to
feeling
like
you
have.
The
flu
and
I
once
saw
a.
B
A
K
We
have
daily
conference
calls
with
Mayor
Walsh
and
his
administration,
and
they
are
available
practically
anytime.
We
need
them,
knowing
all
that
information.
What's
what's
the
most
effective
way
for
us
to
communicate
with
our
constituents,
especially
a
lot
of
us
that
have
constituents
that
are
non-english
speaking
persons
with
disabilities
or
hard-to-reach
constituents,
they
might
be
living
in
public
housing
as
well.
Do
you
have
any
advice
that
might
help
us
on
our
communication
efforts.
B
Boston
Public,
Health
Commission
is
is
as
well
so
point
them
to
authoritative
sources.
Other
other
state
governments
are
probably
doing
more
than
the
then
than
any
one
state
government
can
do
so.
I
would
I
would
just
emphasize
that
and
not
you
know
not
sources
of
information
that
are
either
sensationalistic
or
trying
to
trying
to
sell
something
which
there's
a
lot
of
going
on
right
now.
So
it
would.
H
K
As
it
just
has
a
quick
follow-up,
I've
been
communicating
to
my
constituents
in
in
Cantonese
Mandarin
in
Spanish.
I
know,
mayor
Walsh
is
as
well
and
I
know
all
my
colleagues
are,
but
it's
our
communicating
as
well
to
their
constituents
in
in
various
languages,
but
it's
critical
that
we
provide
the
most
updated,
accurate
medical
information
to
the
residents
that
need
it
most
and
that's
that's
also
our
immigrant
neighbors
throughout
throughout
Boston.
So
it's
critical
that
we
really
provide
the
right
message
to
them
and
get
them
the
updated
medical
information.
B
A
M
H
M
Apologize,
it's
unrelated.
My
laughter
is
unrelated
to
this
hearing.
I'm,
sorry,
so
other
communities
we've
seen
the
virus
impact
first
responder
community.
So
here
in
the
city
of
Boston,
we
know
that
we
have
a
police
officer
and
an
EMT
that
of
positive
tests,
I'm
curious
as
the
impact
that
that
could
have
in
responding
and
directing
care
and
what
we've
seen
another,
whether
it's
other
parts
of
the
country
or
other
parts
of
the
globe.
I.
A
This
is
it.
This
is
interesting.
Okay,
so
mr.
lipstick
I
think
that
is
everything
for
everybody.
I
want
to
say
how
deeply
I
appreciate
the
work.
You're
doing
I
know
you've
been
burning.
The
wicked
both
ends
so
I
hope
you
do
get
some
rest
I
appreciate
you
taking
initiative
in
just
having
lunch
now,
because
I
do
we
were
holding
you
up.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
you
didn't
let
that
happen,
and
so
thank
you
so
much
for
coming
here
and
really
helping.
A
A
Frico
you're
free
to
go
okay,
appreciate
it
for
other
panelists
were
on
here.
I
appreciate
all
of
you
being
here.
I
have
a
couple
folks
that
are
time
restrain,
so
I'm
gonna
try
and
go
through
them
if
I
can
get
it
to.
Let
me
just
see
if
mr.
Hanson
at
least
is
on
mr.
Antonelli,
so
you
there
and
sorry
if
I'm
butchering
your
last
name
hold.
A
We
go
perfect.
Thank
you,
I
believe
people
should
be
called
by
their
names.
So
this
day
to
that
mistake,
you
so
much
for
being
here
on
behalf
of
the
Sheriff's
Department,
the
Suffolk
County
Sheriff's,
Office
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
questions
about.
You
know
the
steps
that
have
been
taken
in
place
to
protect
civil
liberties,
as
well
as
protect
the
population
itself
and
so
I'm
gonna,
give
you
the
floor
to
just
kind
of
speak
on
that.
Please
no
at
2:45,
I'm
gonna
put
on
a
hard
stop.
A
O
Absolutely
can
everyone
hear
me:
okay,
okay,
okay,
great
so
sheriff
Tompkins
asked
me
to
participate
on
his
behalf,
just
to
provide
an
overview
of
where
things
stands
for
the
department
and
then
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
so
I'm
gonna
just
go
through
this
really
quickly,
since
I
am
and
you'll
be
a
lot
of
questions
so
regards
to
Suffolk
County
Sheriff's
Department,
we
stopped
visitation.
Two
weeks
ago,
lawyers
have
been
permitted
to
see
their
clients
behind
glass.
O
We
are
allowing
clergy
as
well.
If
inmates
need
to
see
their
clergy
person
or
other
religious
representative
I.
That
will
be
starting
back
again.
This
week
we
have
halted
partners
with
the
department
and
different
volunteers
from
entering
the
facility
at
this
time,
starting
last
week
on
the
16th
non-essential,
employees
were
instructed
to
work
from
home
this
week.
O
We
are
continuing
that
process,
although
we
are,
in
some
cases
on
a
person-by-person
basis
determining
whether
the
individual
should
continue
to
work
from
home
or
which
should
be
reporting
to
the
department
and
in
those
cases
and
I'm,
not
talking
about
corrections,
officers
I'm
talking
about
knowing
corrections,
officers
like
myself,
anyone
entering
a
department
facility
is
subject
to
it.
Temperature
check
when
they
enter
those
with
a
temperature.
Reading
above
acceptable
norms
is
asked
to
return
home
until
their
fever
has
subsided.
So
we
are
trying
very
hard,
as
well
as
on
many
inmates
that
are
coming
in.
O
O
Inmates
are,
we
have
change
policies
regarding
telephone
calls.
Inmates
are
receiving
two
free
calls
a
week
for
a
15
to
20
minute
duration,
and
we
are
looking
at
ways
that
we
can
expand.
The
service
programming
inside
inside
the
department
behind
the
wall
is
being
curtailed
in
an
effort
to
limit
movement
and
groups
of
people
moving
up
through
the
facility
programming
that
is
still
being
offered
is
in
being
offered
inside
the
unit
directly
in
the
past,
inmates
would
be
able
to
move
through
the
facility
to
a
centralized
location
to
participate
in
programming.
O
We
have
shifted
that
programming
to
inside
the
unit
the
peace
unit,
which
is
our
18
to
24
year
old
men.
The
specialized
unit
is
still
operating.
Those
gentlemen
are
still
there.
Their
programming
is
continuing
our
Oasis
program,
which
is
our
substance
abuse
treatment
operating
at
the
House
of
Corrections
in
South
Bay.
That
is
still
proceeding.
O
We
are
asking
officers
and
caseworkers
still
reporting
to
work
about
helping
out
with
the
education
program
to
ensure
some
continuity
in
the
education
program.
Since
we've
asked
our
outside
partners
and
volunteers
to
not
enter
the
facility,
the
department
is
aware
of
discussions
taking
place
between
the
district
attorney,
the
public
defender's
and
the
courts
relative
to
early
and
compassionate
release
of
some
inmates.
O
We
will
abide
by
the
decision
of
the
courts
in
this
matter,
expanding
on
that,
if
individuals
we
find
are
being
released
and
they
have
a
safe
place
to
go
to
a
family
member,
we
are
very
happy
about
that.
We
are
concerned
about
inmates
who
would
be
leaving
the
facility
and
would
be
homeless
upon
exit
in
that
case,
and
this
will
be
the
individuals
decision,
but
if
they
prefer,
we
will
allow
them
to
remain
at
12.
O
O
The
sheriff
wanted
me
to
stress
that
the
situation
inside
the
department
is
fluid
and
they
were
working
with
all
outside
partners
to
ensure
that
we're
following
best
practices
at
this
time
and
that
is
sort
of
a
40,000
foot
view
of
what's
going
on
in
at
the
House
of
Corrections
and
the
Nashua
Street
jail
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I
appreciate.
A
That
so
here's
what
I'm
actually
gonna
do
folks
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
change
the
format
a
little
bit
just
to
respect
folks
time
we
have
other
panelists
here
and
so
I'm
gonna
do
is
I'm
going
to
actually
give
each
panelist
a
second
to
essentially
do
what
mr.
Anton
Ellis
just
did,
which
is
give
kind
of
a
brief
overview
of
what
you
feel
you
can
speak
on
and
why
you're?
A
Why
you're
here
to
speak
and
then
I'll
then
turn
it
over
to
the
counselors
and
basically
we'll
we'll,
try
and
have
our
questions
directed
at
who
they're
their
most
relevant
to
with
the
counselor
knows?
Who
they're
asking
their
questions
to
just
say
that
and
then
we
can
kind
of
unmute
it.
So
there's
some
order
still
but
I'd
like
it
to
let
everybody
kind
of
have
their
say
because
folks
are
running
up
against
their
stops
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
folks
can
get
back
to
doing
what
they
got
to
do
as
they're
here.
A
So
thank
you.
So
much
Peter
I'll
get
back
to
you
once
we're
done
with
everybody
else.
If
I
can
just
move
it
over
to
mr.
Landrigan,
if
you
can
take
the
floor
really
quickly,
I
just
introduced
yourself,
you're
unmuted
now
and
just
speak
to
what
you're
able
to
speak
to
I
would
appreciate
that.
Thank
you,
mr.
Lanigan,
for
being
here,
Thank.
P
You
counselor,
so
my
name
is
Philip
Landrigan
I'm,
a
medical
doctor
grew
up
in
Boston,
grew
up
in
West,
Roxbury
worked
for
many
years
for
the
Centers
for
Disease,
Control
and
I'm.
Now
the
director
of
the
in
global
public
health
and
the
common
good
at
Boston
College,
and
a
couple
of
points
I'd
like
to
make
the
first
point
is
I'd
like
to
speak
strongly
about
the
importance
of
a
stay
at
home
order.
I'm
delighted
that
Governor
Baker
this
morning
put
out
a
stay
at
home
advisory.
P
That's
clearly
an
important
step
in
the
right
direction,
but
my
concern
is
a
public
health
physician
is
that
it
doesn't
go
far
enough
just
this
morning,
I'm
holding
it
up
here,
you
might
be
able
to
see
it.
Physicians
for
Social
Responsibility,
the
Greater
Boston
chapter
of
physicians
for
Social
Responsibility,
sent
an
open
letter
to
Governor
Baker,
urging
that
the
governor
go
beyond
an
advisory
and
actually
put
out
a
stay
at
home
order
and
I'll
read
just
a
few
words
from
this
letter.
P
I
always
had
to
be
mindful
of
the
balance,
but
I
think
the
protection
of
public
health
should
should
should
take
precedence.
There
are
some
countries
in
the
world
is
probably
not
the
American
Way
we're
in
Norway,
for
example,
people
get
finally
Vitz
$400
if
they're
caught
outside
their
home
unless
they're
a
first
responder
or
doctor
or
nurse
somebody
with
a
valid
reason
to
be
out
I'm,
not
sure
we
could
ever
go
that
far
in
the
states.
P
I
know
it
doesn't
feel
like
it
today,
we're
not
there
yet,
but
it's
it's
like
the
Train
is
coming
down
the
track
and
whatever
we
can
do
to
slow
the
pace
of
the
Train.
You
flatten
the
curve
to
delay
people
from
becoming
sick
and
hitting
the
hospital
is
a
good
thing
to
do.
I
also
would
like
to
follow
up
on
something
in
the
councillor.
Flynn
said
a
couple
of
minutes
ago
about
the
importance
of
communicating
the
latest,
the
most
accurate
information
about
this
epidemic
to
the
public.
P
I
couldn't
agree
more
just
a
few
minutes
ago,
I
sent
a
link
to
councillor
Wu
and
I
would
like
to
thank
council
for
having
invited
me
to
speak
before
this
hearing.
I
sent
the
councillor
a
link
to
a
very
excellent
website
which
is
available
at
no
cost
online
from
Johns
Hopkins
University.
She
might
want
to
share
it
with
the
rest
of
you.
P
They
update
this
website
several
times
a
day
and
it's
an
online
interactive
map
that
presents
the
most
current
up-to-date
information
on
the
pace
of
the
epidemic
around
the
world,
and
you
can
look
at
the
global
map
and
then
you
can
click
on
any
one.
Particular
country
such
as
the
United
States
and
and
see
almost
hour
by
hour.
P
P
We
should
have
been
mobilizing
to
fight
this
epidemic
back
in
January,
early
February,
at
the
same
time
as
Professor
whipstitch
and
his
colleagues
at
our
School
of
Public
Health,
the
Broad
Institute
we're
rolling
up
their
sleeves.
Instead,
the
federal
government
was
sitting
at
that
point
in
telling
us
there
was
no
problem
and
that's
just
not
the
way
to
deal
with
a
public
health
emergency.
I'm.
Sorry
I
didn't
come
here
to
complain
for
the
moment.
A
Thank
you
and
then
I'll.
Let
folks
the
right
questions
to
you
once
we
get
around
if
I
can
go
over
to
Crystal
Murrieta
buoys,
you're
unmuted,
now
Miss
Maria
Therese
is
a
representative.
32Bj
32bj
represents
gin,
there's
security
guards
who
are
doing
a
lot
of
the
work
when
you
hear
extra
maintenance,
when
you
hear
about
extra
cleaning
they're
there
on
the
frontlines
of
that,
so
I
just
give
you
the
floor
now
to
speak
to
your
needs
and
what
you,
what
you
would
like
to
speak
to
thank.
Q
You
and
thank
you,
counselor
Arroyo,
for
inviting
32bj
to
take
part
in
this
larger
conversation
about
Cova
19
preparedness,
as
mentioned,
my
name
is
crystal
Maria.
Therese
and
I
am
a
political
coordinator
with
32bj
each
and
every
day,
cleaners,
security
officers
and
airport
workers
keep
grader
bosses,
offices,
public
spaces,
universities
and
airplanes,
clean
and
safe.
These
hard
workers
are
primarily
brown
black
and
immigrant
workers
and
the
work
that
they
do
is
invaluable
now,
so
more
than
ever
as
they
are
helping
mitigate
the
spread
of
kovat
19.
Q
These
men
and
women
are
the
unsung
heroes
of
this
epidemic
of
this
pandemic
and
among
those
who
can
least
afford
to
lose
wages
and
benefits
during
this
crisis.
These
same
workers
who
have
stepped
forward
to
do
their
jobs
during
the
outbreak
are
facing
unprecedented
layoffs
in
our
reductions
as
office
buildings,
nonprofit
institutions
and
public
venues
shut
their
doors
and
white
color
workers
have
the
privilege
of
staying
home.
Oh
girl,
number
of
contracted
cleaners
and
security
officers
are
losing
work
and
pay.
Q
We
know
that
about
200
contracted
at
Boston,
Logan
Airport
workers
have
been
laid
off
and
hundreds
more
are
facing
massive.
Our
reductions
due
to
the
corona
virus
and
our
efforts
in
this
moment
one
caught
on
building
owners
and
universities
to
ensure
the
health
and
well-being
of
workers
and
their
families
by
offering
continued
pay
and
benefits
to
all
cleaners
on
the
front
lines
of
fighting
the
corona
virus
pandemic
and
to
as
the
US
airline
industry
seeks
at
least
fifty
eight
billion
dollars
from
the
federal
government.
Q
We
are
asking
Congress
to
ensure
that
an
airline
bailout
package
includes
subcontracting
Airport
workers
such
as
sky
caps,
wheelchair
agents,
cabin
cleaners
and
baggage
holders.
These
workers
do
some
of
the
hardest
jobs
at
the
airport,
receive
the
lowest
wages
and
often
do
not
have
access
to
affordable
health
care
or
pay
time
off.
Q
We
feel
that
they
must
be
meaningfully
protected
in
this
time
and
want
to
give
a
big
thank
you
to
the
counselors
that
have
already
given
us
air
support
with
making
these
ask
and
fighting
for
the
working
people
of
Boston
and
beyond
throughout
the
state
of
Massachusetts.
I
am
happy
to
take
any
questions
after
won't
be
able
to
be
here,
but
if
counselor
oil
can
send
them
my
way,
I
will
be
extra.
Cautious.
Make
sure
that
they
get
answered
so.
A
E
A
E
A
And
so
I'm
gonna
now
go
to
Samuel
Scarpino.
Thank
you
for
being
so
patient
I
know
you,
one
of
the
persons
here
I
know.
You're
the
director
at
emergent
labs
I
know
that
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
was
excited
to
have
you
here
is
you
were
helping
with
some
of
the
testing
coordination
I'd
like
to
give
the
floor
to
you
now,
just
so,
you
can
give
a
little
bit
of
you
know
your
opening
statement
and
then
we'll
open
the
floor
to
questions
with
everybody
else.
R
Great,
thank
you
very
much
for
for
having
me
and
and
for
holding
this.
This
important
hearing
I
also
want
to
echo
the
thanks
for
all
that
workers
on
the
front
lines
and
I
certainly
include
janitors
all
the
individuals
that
are
out
there
performing
these
essential
tasks
day
in
and
day
out,
that
are
putting
themselves
at
risk.
I
want
to
really
thank
thank
them
for
everything
they're
doing
and
for
all
of
you
for
giving
them
an
opportunity
to
to
speak
today
as
well.
R
It's
going
to
help
us
come
back
to
normal,
at
least
a
little
bit
prior
to
the
availability
of
any
vaccine.
So
so
testing
is
really
of
critical
importance
right
now.
The
second
thing
that
I
would
add
is
we
do
need
to
be
focused
very
heavily
on
individuals
who
are
most
at
risk,
both
from
a
health
perspective,
but
also
from
an
economic
perspective.
R
R
Just
speaking
hypothetically
here,
because
we're
still
working
on
this,
and
so
those
are
the
areas
that
we're
focused
on
testing
now
to
try
and
flatten
the
curve
testing
later
so
that
we
can
leverage
that,
as
a
part
of
a
test,
isolate
strategy
to
try
and
reopen
our
economy,
understanding
the
mobility
patterns
and
also
thinking
ahead
for
the
next
six
12
18
months
around
how
we
can
best
serve
those
individuals
in
the
community
that
are
both
at
highest
risk
for
disease,
but
also
highest
risk
as
a
result
of
the
economic
effects
of
this
outbreak.
So.
N
R
A
Deeply
appreciate
you
having
the
time
and
we'll
we'll
certainly
have
some
questions.
I
know
I
will
but
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
next
folks
just
so
we
can
make
sure
that
everybody
has
their
say
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
if
I
can
take
it
over
to
miss
Sheridan,
the
just
a
quick
update
for
folks
who
may
not
remember
president/ceo
the
Greater
Boston
Convention
and
Visitors
Bureau.
A
There
has
been
some
conversations
about
the
economic
impact.
Obviously
the
economic
impact
is
going
to
be
felt
by
all,
perhaps
no
more
so
than
then
folks
that
that
require
human
contact
and
what
they
do.
And
so,
if
you
can
just
take
the
floor
now
and
speak
to
the
issues
you're,
seeing
in
the
supports,
you
need
great.
S
Hello,
Roy,
oh
and
thank
you.
Everyone
I'm
happy
to
be
here
once
again:
I
am
the
president
and
CEO
of
the
Greater
Boston.
He
mentioned
a
visitor's
bureau
I'd
been
in
my
role
there
for
the
past
year
and
a
half
and
have
been
in
what
we
call
destination
marketing
for
the
past
30
years.
In
addition
to
my
role
here
in
Boston,
I
serve
on
the
board
of
directors
of
the
US
Travel
Association,
which
is
the
advocacy
arm
of
the
travel
industry
at
large.
S
So
some
of
what
I'll
briefly
cover
will
address
how
they
are
trying
to
tackle
the
economic
challenges
that
are
now
going
to
be
faced
by
the
tourism
industry.
I
think
it's
no
surprise
to
anyone
that
travel
and
tourism
is
one
of
the
largest
sectors
in
the
Commonwealth.
The
industry
employs
responsible
for
forty
billion
in
economic
input
and
is
also
employs
one
in
ten
residents
of
the
Commonwealth.
So
we
are
obviously
a
huge
factor
and
we
are
also
now
seeing
catastrophic
results.
S
So
I'll
just
give
you
a
quick
summary
of
what
we've
seen
from
an
impact
perspective
and
then
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
recovery
steps
could
be
taken
once
we
get
past
the
critical
period
here,
our
organization,
just
by
way
of
information,
has
been
keeping
our
1,800
members
of
the
hospitality
industry
informed
on
a
regular
basis
about
the
crisis.
We
provide
resources
via
electronic
communication,
but
also
you
can
also
visit
our
website.
S
Boston
USA,
dot-com
and
those
resources
are
readily
available
there,
including
links
to
national
portals
such
as
the
CDC
of
the
state
of
Massachusetts,
the
city
of
Boston,
as
well
as
information
on
closings
and
what
is
actually
currently
operating.
So
it's
a
good
resource
for
all
to
try
and
use
right
now.
Hotels
are
open,
but
many
are
voluntarily
closing.
S
They
have
gone
from
what
we
commonly
enjoyed
as
about
an
82
percent
occupancy
rate
down
to
below
10
percent
occupancy
rates,
so
most
of
the
hotels
in
Boston,
aside
from
the
ones
at
the
airport,
are
virtually
empty
right
now
and,
as
a
result,
the
hotel
owners
have
laid
off
significant
portions
of
their
workforce.
In
fact,
Marriott
corporation,
the
largest
corporation,
representing
hotels
in
the
city
of
Boston,
has
laid
off
80
percent
of
their
workforce
indefinitely.
S
S
We're
grateful
that
that
is
still
in
play,
even
given
the
most
recent
edict
from
the
governor
today,
because
we
do
think
it
is
keeping
at
least
a
small
percentage
of
our
restaurants
viable,
but
the
longer
this
goes
on
the
greater
the
likelihood
that
many
of
those
mom-and-pop
owned
restaurants
will
not
survive
this
crisis,
which
is
actually
heartbreaking
for
us.
In
the
industry,
we've
lost
business
of
all
sizes.
We've
we've
lost
meetings
that
take
place
individually
in
hotels,
you've
lost
wedding
business.
S
We
have
lost
large
city
wide
events,
dozens
of
them
that
were
scheduled
to
take
place
at
the
convention
centers
in
Boston,
both
the
BCC
and
the
Heinz
are
either
cancelled
or
postponed
to
a
future
date
or
postponed
indefinitely.
Each
of
those
events
represents
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
in
economic
spending
in
the
city,
so
the
repercussions
from
that
will
be
felt
for
a
long
time.
As
you
know,
we've
postponed
the
map,
the
marathon
and
we're
now
hearing
that
schools
of
our
forgoing
graduation
ceremonies.
S
Most
recently,
Harvard
University
announced
that
yesterday
we
appreciate
that
the
state
and
the
city,
the
Commonwealth
and
the
city
have
put
in
place
some
relief
measures,
economic
relief
measures
that
have
taken
hold
temporarily
in
the
form
of
shorter
waiting
periods
for
unemployment,
a
softening
or
relaxing
of
the
requirements
to
collect
unemployment,
as
well
as
some
loan
availability
for
small
businesses.
The
10
million
that
was
originally
slated
for
$75,000
loans
for
the
small
business
community
was
exhausted
quite
quickly.
S
I
do
understand
that
another
10
million
is
out
there,
so
hopefully
people
can
avail
themselves
of
that,
but
75,000
for
many
of
the
businesses
in
the
Boston
area
is
likely
not
going
to
move
the
needle
on
and
them
retaining
or
calling
back
employees
in
the
short
term.
So
what
I've
been
working
on
is
with
the
US
Travel
Association
is
advocating
for
their
larger
stabilization
package
and
I
know.
S
Indeed,
150
billion
dollars
for
stabilization
grants
to
allow
our
businesses
in
the
hospitality
industry
to
call
back
workers
and
retain
them
at
pre-crisis
levels,
the
availability
of
unsecured
loans
for
with
no
or
low
interest
rates,
and
then
for
businesses
with
500
employees
or
less
the
ability
for
them
to
use
the
existing
SBA
loan
program.
So
they
can
access
up
to
ten
million
dollars.
So
they
can
maintain
their
operations
as
well.
The
challenge
for
the
industry
is
once
the
crisis
has
passed
us,
hopefully
sooner
rather
than
later,
is
not
going
to
be
a
quick
recovery.
S
As
you
know,
travel
plans
are
booked
quite
far
out
the
ability
to
book
these
large
city
wide
conventions
typically
takes
five
to
ten
years
to
secure
them,
so
they
are
booked
five
to
ten
years
in
advance,
so
we
will
not
be
able
to
recover
and
regain
regain
many
of
those
groups
for
the
destination.
In
the
short
term,
we
also
have
the
challenge
of
when
air
travel
will
be
perceived
to
be
safe
and
when
our
international
borders
will
open
up
again.
S
One
of
the
big
challenges
that
we
will
face
is
that
the
Commonwealth
traditionally
has
not
invested
heavily
in
tourism
promotion,
so
we
just
don't
have
any
resources
in
reserve
to
help
us
convey
the
message
that
we're
back
open
for
business.
So
we
are
going
to
need
to
identify
new
funding
sources
so
that
we
can
stay
competitive
with
other
destinations
who
are
likely
able
to
deploy
millions
of
dollars
and
promotional
funds
immediately
to
draw
business
back
into
their
communities.
S
We
will
absolutely
be
at
a
disadvantage
to
the
point
where
it's
you
know,
it's
possible
that
my
agency
may
may
be
one
of
those
small
businesses
that
does
not
survive
this
crisis.
Quite
frankly,
because
of
the
lack
of
available
funds
for
tourism
promotion
in
Boston
and
in
the
Commonwealth,
so
I
will
leave
it
at
that.
S
I
do
want
to
thank
by
the
way
governor,
Baker
and
the
mayor
for
providing
us
with
the
resources
that
they
have
provided
us
to
keep
our
constituents
well
informed
I
hear
from
probably
10
to
12
small
businesses
every
day
about
their
challenges
and
oftentimes.
We
are
their
only
source
of
information
as
they
aren't
able
to
belong
to
big
national
organizations
and
receive
their
communication.
So
what
we've
been
getting
from
the
local
level?
It's
been
very
helpful,
so
thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
You
and
I'm
sorry
to
hear
such
a
grim
forecast
but
I
think
we're
all
preparing
to
try
and
figure
out
how
to
how
to
work
on
that.
If
I
can
go
to
and
I
think
we'll
have
follow-up
questions
on
ways,
and
perhaps
we
can
get
help
on
that.
But
if
I
go
to
the
last
two
folks
who
haven't
spoken,
we
have
Mary
holistic
and
I'm.
A
So
sorry
for
what
I'm
about
to
do
to
your
last
name
here
but
Mary
holistic
Mac
is
it
cornacchia
cannot
think
well,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
service
you're
providing
as
a
nurse
at
tufts,
and
then
we
also
have
it
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
unmute,
both
of
you
together,
Ellen
McInnis,
from
st.
Elizabeth's,
and
so
thank
you
both
for
the
work
that
you're
doing
now
on
the
front
line
as
nurses
I'd
like
to
we
were.
A
We
had
Peggy
Conlon
from
Kearney
V
and
so
I'd
like
to
just
give
the
floor
to
you
two,
both
together
to
speak
to
your
concerns,
things
and
ways
in
which
you
believe
we
can
help
as
a
council
and
as
a
city
and
and
ways
in
which
we
can
advocate
for
the
things
that
you
need
from
the
state
and
from
the
federal
government.
So
please
do.
T
A
T
Thank
you,
so
the
MA
is
dedicated
to
supporting
nurses
and
health
care
professionals
all
over
the
state
and
we're
advocating
for
the
safest,
possible
working
conditions
for
everybody,
and
the
variety
of
differences
is
astounding,
from
facility
to
facility
across
the
state
we'd
like
to
thank
mayor,
Walsh
and,
and
you
and
all
the
council
members
and
the
governor
for
keeping
open
lines
of
communications
with
us.
What
our
members
are
seeing
in
some
places
across
the
state
are,
and
it's
everywhere
and
we
hear
about
it
all.
T
Potentially
infected
individuals
are
presenting
at
hospitals
that
are
still
not
equipped
to
triage
tests
and
properly
treat
them
in
appropriate
settings,
and
nurses
continue
to
be
concerned
about
capacity
to
treat
the
potential
influx
of
individuals
with
coded
19
because
of
years
of
closures,
of
beds,
units
hospitals
and
reduction
in
force
across
the
state.
Not
all
facilities
are
like
that.
I'm
speaking
to
us,
been
very
proactive
in
planning
for
this
pandemic.
T
They
started
thinking
about
it
and
putting
some
things
into
place
some
months
ago
in
terms
of
personal
protection
equipment,
we
we
have
a
stockpile,
I
don't
have
numbers.
However,
it's
very
concerning,
because
there
there
rashing
rationing
it
very
strictly
I
will
say
to
the
bonus
here
is
that
Tufts
has
gone
out
and
hired
some
of
the
hotel
workers
for
food
service
and
housekeeping
within
our
institution.
At
this
time.
U
U
We
we've
been
told.
Ppe
will
probably
run
out
this
week
and
we'll
do
what
we
have
to
we'll
keep
on
taking
care
of
patients.
I
know
that
at
st.
Elizabeth's,
we're
already
behind
the
eight
ball
for
an
average
daily
census,
an
average
acuity.
We
are
shot
forty-three,
full-time
nurses
status,
but
not
staff
to
where
we
should
be
I'm
concerned
about
what
will
happen
when
a
when
a
facility
that
doesn't
have
enough
nurses
on
a
good
day
is
going
to
have
to
absorb
this
influx.
U
We
have
had
some
donations
from
the
public
of
semaine
95
masks
and
some
gloves
some
PPE
I
think
it
will.
It
will
help
it
will
extend
us.
It
will
get
us
into
another.
Two,
you
know
might
buy
us
another
day,
but
I
the
uncertainty
of
what
we're
dealing
with.
Is
it's
just
overwhelming
it's
just
it's
really
tough
to
go
in
there.
We
will
always
take
care
of
our
patients
as
nurses
as
healthcare
workers.
That's
what
they'll
do.
We
will
never
not
take
care
about
patients.
U
It's
it's
just
a
question
of
having
the
resources
that
we
need
and
if
I
can
say,
as
a
resident
of
Brighton,
I
recall
off
to
the
tragedy
of
the
Marathon
bombing.
Brighton
was
completely
locked
down.
Nothing
was
open
and
I
I
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
do
something
like
that.
For
this
we
need
to
keep
people
home.
We
need
to
keep
people
away
from
each
other.
We
need
to
stop
stop
this
spread.
I
know
we
did
it
before
it
was
for
a
short
period
of
time.
U
We
were
only
on
lockdown
for
a
few
days,
but
I
think.
If
the
city
looks
like
that
right
now,
we
we
might,
we
might
be
able
to
get
a
little
bit
ahead.
Of
the
other
thing
is
I
took
on
Friday
night
I
took
care
of
a
woman
who
we
thought
had
a
kidney
stone.
We
worked
her
for
a
kidney
stone,
she
had
no
respiratory
issue,
she
had
no
fever,
and
lo
and
behold,
because
of
an
incidental
finding
on
a
cat's
key
and
she
is
now
being
tested
and
probably
will
come
back
positive
for
kovat.
U
U
A
U
Ppe
is
personal
protective
equipment,
the
it
consists
of
a
face
goggle
to
protect
the
eye
goggles
or
a
face
shield
to
protect
the
eyes,
some
sort
of
a
mask
to
protect
the
nose
and
mouth
those
are
all
ports
of
entry
and
then
some
sort
of
garment
to
protect
the
wearer,
the
wearer's
clothes,
ideally
something
that
covers
the
neck
to
the
wrists
and
down
to
about
the
knees.
These
are
largely
disposable.
Some
things
can
be
reused,
but
largely
disposable,
and
we
need
we
need
a
lot
of
it.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
just
clarifying
what
that
is
for
folks.
Listening
at
this
point,
I'd
like
to
get
focused
and
involved
in
questions
and
and
what
we'll
do
here
is
just
a
brief
or
minder
of
who's
present.
We
have
Peter
Antonelli's
from
the
Sheriff's
Office
for
folks
have
questions
about
the
Sheriff's
Office
we're
grateful
to
have
Mary
Havlicek
from
tops
and
Ellen
McKenna's
from
st.
Elizabeth's.
Here
two
registered
nurses.
We
have
Martha
Sheridan
from
the
hotels.
Let
me
just
be
clear
on
your
actual
title.
A
Sorry
for
this
as
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm,
accurate
Martha
Sherrod
is
the
president
CEO,
the
Greater
Boston
Convention
and
Visitors
Bureau,
and
so
she
has
questions.
They're,
insanely
scarpino
runs
emergent.
Laps
he's
helped
with
some
of
the
testing
organizing
some
of
the
testing.
I
know,
you're
also
doing
models
right
now
for
kind
of
tracking
progression,
and
so
that's
I
believe
that
everybody
we
have
on
the
line
still
so
with
that
I'm
gonna
ask
counselors
who
have
any
questions?
If
you
can
please
raise
your
hand
I
say
to
we
don't
have
on
video.
A
So
what
I'll
do
is
it?
Basically,
everybody
can
I.
Just
see,
counsel
I
see
madam
Aly
I
see
ed
Flynn
I,
see
Liz
Braden
I
see
Mejia
counselor
Janie
comes
present.
Danny.
Do
you
have
any
questions
for
anybody?
No
I'm
just
asking
for
a
show
of
hands.
I
know.
So.
Basically
what
I'm
gonna
do
is
just
go
to
everybody.
I'll
start
with
counselor
O'malley
since
I
saw
your
hand
first
and
I'll.
Try
to
give
everybody
five
minutes
to
just
ask
as
many
questions
of
whoever
is
relevant:
you're
unmuted,
counselor
O'malley.
Thank.
C
You
well
I
think
mr.
chairman
and,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
thank
you
for
all
of
your
remarkable
heroic
work
that
you
are
doing
we're
incredibly
proud
of
you
and
incredibly
grateful
for
you.
Mr.
scarpino,
can
we
talk
a
little
bit
about
testing
I
seem
to
you
know,
like
probably,
all
of
us
I've
been
a
voracious
reader
of
all
the
news
and
the
coverage,
and
it
seems
that
there
are
new
tests
that
can
detect
within
an
hour
I
think
some
countries
have
used
almost
like
a
phone
booth
type
system
for
checking.
C
R
Most
effective
way
that
we've
seen
is
a
combination
of
high
test
throughput,
meaning
that
the
results
are
available
quickly
with
Drive,
through
testing
and
and
the
reason
that
the
drive
through
testing
is
so
important
is
that
it
keeps
individuals
out
of
the
healthcare
facilities
which
is
critically
important.
Obviously,
there
are
experts
here
who
can
who
can
explain
that
better
better
than
I
can.
R
Again,
part
of
the
reason
that
the
response
has
been
so
effective
in
places
like
South
Korea
is
that
people
self
isolate,
meaning
they
don't
transmit
and
they
stay
away
from
the
healthcare
facilities
until
they
are
in
need
of
those
services,
so
that
we're
protecting
our
frontline
healthcare
workers
and
keeping
spaces
open
for
individuals
that
are
NEET
in
need
of
care.
Okay,.
C
That's
helpful,
so
would
you
say
you
know
I
know,
there's
no
perfect
answer
for
this,
but
sort
of
what
I
it
will
jive
with
what
I've
sort
of
been
reading
and
hearing
from
other
experts
that
the
South
Korea
model
is
is
what
we
should
be
looking
to
build
the
infrastructure
for
here
in
the
United
States
I.
Think.
R
The
other
side
of
this
you
mentioned
the
rapid
turnaround
test.
A
lot
of
those
rapid
tests
now
are
looking
for
the
presence
of
antibodies
and
so
evidence
of
people
that
have
already
had
the
infection
and
cleared
it
and
that's
going
to
be
very
important,
both
for
understanding
who's
already
been
exposed
and
maybe
protected,
but
so
that
we
understand
the
current
epidemiological
situation.
So
we
don't
really
know
much
about
how
children
or
individuals,
with
less
of
your
cases,
are
moving
the
virus.
R
Around
we've
heard
that
from
Professor
lip
stitch,
those
sort
of
retrospective
epidemiological
studies
can
be
done
so
that
we
better
understand
the
risk
profile
going
forward.
But
that's
of
course,
a
different
kind
of
test
than
the
clinical
diagnostic
tests
that
were
there
were
also
in
desperate
need
of
right
now.
Thank.
C
Thank
you,
mr.
chairman.
Well,
this
is
to
all
of
the
sort
of
frontline
men
and
women
serving
our
nurses,
our
doctors.
Obviously,
given
our
positions,
we've
are
interacting
with
a
lot
of
people,
so
many
people
want
to
help
out
I've
heard
from
a
number
of
individuals
who
may
have
out
of
the
n
25
masks
or
other
type
masks,
I've
sort
of
been
following
them
through
Neil
Dougherty,
who
works
in
inter
governmental
relations
for
mayor
Walsh.
But
do
you
I
would
imagine
the
answer?
C
Is
yes,
and
is
there
a
better
way
we
can
help
streamline
the
system?
Are
people
trying
to
do
the
right
thing
and
just
dropping
off
some
of
these
PPE
or
some
of
some
equipment
to
your
hospitals?
Are
you
just
accepting
them?
Is
there
a
better
way
we
can
help
sort
of
get
a
clearinghouse
for
folks
who
may
have
found
these
in
their
basement
or
in
their
garage.
A
T
I,
don't
have
a
drop
off
box
at
tufts,
but
certainly
I
can
leave
you
my
information,
you
can
contact
me
or
we
do
have
a
command
Center
at
the
hospital,
so
anybody
could
call
and
ask
what
they
can
do
to
you
know
where
they
can
donate
how
they
can
do
that,
because
all
the
donations
should
go
through
our
command
center.
Excellent.
U
With
me
are
yes,
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
if
donations
came
in
through
the
command
center.
I
would
remind
the
public
that
we
all
donations
will
be
accepted.
Packages
must
be
factory,
sealed
and
unused.
For
obvious
reasons.
We
wouldn't
want
to
use
a
box
of
masks
that
had
already
been
exposed
that
had
already
been
open
question.
Any
contaminants
are
exposure.
U
U
Will
in
a
couple
of
folks
at
the
MA
are
all
are
already
working
to
to
with
with
a
couple
of
different
vendors
to
actually
get
that
equipment
in?
At
that
point,
we
would
and
I
can't
speak
to
this
with
any
authority,
but
knowing
the
MA
the
way
I
do.
We
would
probably
defer
to
somebody
at
the
state
level
to
determine
allocation
of
those,
but
I
can't
imagine
that
is.
T
Just
like
to
add,
if
I
could
that
any
donations
could
be
directed
to
the
Massachusetts
Nurses
Association,
also
so
that
they
could
be
dispersed
statewide
and
though
we
certainly
appreciate
individual
donations.
We
too
also
received
a
wonderful
donation
and
said
person
wanted
to
mein
Anonymous,
but
a
great
thank
you,
Massachusetts
Nurses
Association
card
to
try
to
provide
the
same
protection
to
every
healthcare
worker
across
the
state,
not
just
the
mass
nurses,
association,
affiliated,
hospitals.
C
Thank
you,
and
just
thank
you
again
to
all
of
our
panelists.
Obviously
my
shared
and
I
know
that
we
could
spend
hours
on
every
topic,
but
the
economic
impact
will
be
vast
will
be
significant.
Mr.
Anton
Ellis,
you
do
me
proud.
I,
had
your
job
about
ten
years
ago,
keep
up
the
good
work
and
my
best
of
the
men,
women
of
the
Suffolk
County
Sheriff's
Department,
and
all
those
who
are
in
the
Nashua
Street
jail
and
Suffolk
County
house
of
correction
Thank
You.
Mr.
chairman,
thank.
A
E
E
Are
you
in
conversation
with
BAA,
regarding
the
marathon
being
postponed
until
September
14th,
and
what
are
the
plans
around
really
using
the
marathon,
assuming
that
we
are
out
of
this
current
state
and
that
it's
safe
to
kind
of
gather
in
crowds
again
by
September
14th?
How
are
you
thinking
we're
using
that
to
stimulate
local
business
in
the
area,
the
same
way
that
it
does
in
April?
E
But
obviously
you
know
folks
are
hurting
in
a
different
kind
of
way,
so
one
they're
missing
that
that
April
day,
but
now
they're
also
missing
a
lot
of
other
days
in
addition
to
a
Patriots
Day.
So
I
wonder
about
that.
I
wonder
if
you're
in
communication
with
the
n-double-a-cp
National
branch
and
what
the
impact
of
the
the
corona
virus
has
on
the
convention
plans
for
July
and
what
that
means
for
tourism
in
the
area.
Maybe
we
could
just
start
with
those
two
questions
that
would
be
helpful
to
me.
So.
S
I
S
That
we
can
maximize
the
experience
for
the
runners
that
do
come
this
year
and
you
know
we're
hoping
that
we
can
generate
as
much
interest
and
participation
as
in
past
year.
So
we
will
absolutely
be
working
with
them
to
maximize
that
event,
and
it
would
will
hopefully
be
a
really
nice
time
to
remind
us
about
the
strength
of
this
destination,
and
you
know
how
we
can
rebound.
So
we
will.
Certainly,
you
know,
use
that
as
an
opportunity
to
do
that.
I
am
intimately
involved
with
the
n-double-a-cp
Convention.
S
We
are
working
closely
with
the
local
chapter
and
with
the
national
chapter.
At
this
point
we
have
not
heard
of
any
plans
to
cancel
or
scale
back
that
event.
Yet
most
of
the
events
that
we've
heard
of
that
are
canceling
or
postponing
are
running
up
through
mid-june,
so
we're
still
remaining
hopeful
that
July
is
going
to
be
a
safe
time
to
hold
an
event
here
and
in
our
business.
S
We
have
something
that
we
like
to
call
pent-up
demand,
meaning
that
when
a
crisis
is
subsiding,
the
human
spirit
starts
to
crave
old
experiences
and
getting
back
out
and
being
with
people.
So
hopefully,
the
timing
on
that
will
be
just
right,
and
we
know
obviously
that
the
political
environment
will
have
a
big
impact
on
the
attendance
of
that
event,
as
well
as
it
is
in
a
election
year.
E
I
had
just
a
few
follow-up
questions.
If
that's
okay,
I
am
wondering
so
a
lot
of
us
are
trying
to
be
creative,
we're
trying
to
think
of
new
ways
to
engage
the
public
to
continue
on
with
our
work
and
to
find
some
sense
of
normalcy
and
there's
this
just
a
new
normal
now
and
so
I
know,
you
know,
obviously
we're
doing
this
council
hearing
remotely
is
one
example
of
that.
E
I
would
imagine
that
our
creative
spaces,
like
our
museums,
are
thinking
of
ways
to
bring
the
public
in
to
their
space,
even
though
they
can't
do
so,
even
though
they
can't
excuse
me,
even
though
they
can't
do
so
physically
and
so
I
wonder
if
you're
having
with
folks
with
the
museums
around
virtual,
bringing
folks
in
whether
it's
through
film
or
some
sort
of
exhibit
or
what
are
ways
that
we
can
continue
to
one
bring
joy
into
the
lives
of
people
who
many
are
feeling
pent
up.
People
are
getting
depressed.
E
Folks
are
overeating,
you
know
we're
sitting
home
high/low
food
in
our
homes
and
I'm
guilty.
So
let
me
just
say
that,
but
I
think
the
more
we
can
bring
folks
through.
Wonderful
experiences
people
may
know
that
dee-nice,
who
is
a
DJ,
has
been
doing
lives
on
instagram
having
these
worldwide
parties
with
a
hundred
thousand
plus
viewers,
and
so
are
the
museum's
through
your
conversations
with
them
doing
something
similar
thinking
about
ways
to
bring
folks
in
they.
S
Are
so
many
of
the
museums
and
attractions
are
doing
virtual
tours
through
their
facilities
or
exhibits,
and
we
do
aggregate
all
that
information
and
make
it
available
on
our
website.
We
are
also
continuing
to
communicate
with
our
vast
databases
via
weekly
eblasts,
as
well
as
through
our
robust
social
media
channels,
where
we
feature
many
of
these
events
and
also
are
working
very
closely
with
the
restaurant
community
to
encourage
people
to
in
fact
take
advantage
of
what
they
have
available
to
them
so
that
again
they
can
survive.
S
So,
yes,
we
are
continuing
to
be
sensitive
to
the
current
situation
as
we
should
be,
but
also
trying
to
keep
people
interested
in
Boston
and
keeping
residents
interested
and
engaged
in
what
we
have
to
offer
and
that'll
be
an
evolving
process
for
us.
I
think
you
know,
as
we
all
start
to
realize,
that
this
is
not
a
one
week
or
two
week
now.
S
E
When
we
do
and
for
me,
Boston
is
always
an
attractive
City,
but
I
think
during
this
time,
when
we're
kind
of
shut-in
I
wonder
with
what
ways
we
can
engage
small
business
in
promoting
how
wonderful
our
city
is
and
I
really
think
about
small
business
in
our
neighborhoods
and
one
conversation
like
I.
Just
love
to
have
with
you,
regardless
of
whether
we're
talking
about
it
in
the
context
of
the
coronavirus,
is
really
how
we
really
elevate
our
neighborhoods
and
tell
the
story
of
our
neighborhoods
and
help
the
neighborhood's
contribute
to
the
story
of
Boston.
E
S
Sorry
works.
We
have
a
page
dedicated.
We
can't
have
one
dedicated
every
single
nook
and
cranny
neighborhood
but,
for
instance,
Jamaica
Plain,
Roxbury
Mattapan.
We
have
pages
dedicated
to
each
of
those
neighborhoods
on
our
website
and,
oh
you
have
it
up.
Thank
you
and
we
right
now
are
developing
a
series
of
12
promotional
videos
for
each
neighborhood,
which
is
obviously
on
hold
for
a
bit.
But
would
you
have
our
to
make
a
playing
video
up
and
post
it
on
our
website
and
we'll
use
those
videos,
both
in
long-form
and
short
form,
to
promote
the
area?
S
We
know
that
Chinatown
and
and
the
North,
End
and
and
Back
Bay
are
already
drawing
huge
numbers
of
visitors
under
normal
circumstances,
and
we
want
those
visitors
to
experience
every
corner.
So
we
are
developing
a
sort
of
live
like
a
local
campaign
that
we
will
continue
to
evolve
right
now
in
the
slow
time
we
aggregate
social
media
posts
from
each
of
those
neighborhoods
so
that
you
can
see
what
people
are
posting
about.
S
The
small
businesses
in
those
areas
and
the
format's
of
our
videos
are
very
much
focused
on
the
artists
and
the
small
businesses
within
those
communities
as
well.
So
that's
a
great
question,
and
now
more
than
ever,
we
want
to
make
sure
we
put
that
program
on
steroids
to
make
it
even
more
meaningful,
and
we
hope
that
the
program
actually
has
almost
an
inverse
effect
a
it
gets
people
in
visitors
into
the
neighborhoods
and
residents
that
may
not
have
been
there
before
to
experience
what
the
neighborhoods
have.
S
E
A
V
A
I
A
G
T
We
have
specific
guidelines
at
Tufts
and
they
are
following
the
DPH
and
CDC
recommendations
and,
of
course,
there's
a
lot
of
controversy
over
it.
But
concurrently,
if
you
are
symptom
free,
then
you
are
to
report
to
work.
If
you
have
sustained
an
exposure
and
we're
notified
or
even
if
you
weren't,
you
just
assumed
that
you
might
have
been
exposed
as
long
as
you're
an
asymptomatic,
we
are
expected
to
work.
T
You
have
been
exposed,
whether
you
are
confirming
it
as
a
community
exposure
that
you
know
for
sure
the
person
that
you
were
exposed
to
was
tested
positive
or
if
it's
a
work-related
exposure.
If
you
are
asymptomatic,
you
can
work
and
you
need
to
wear
a
mask,
but
the
moment
you
become
symptomatic,
you
are
going
to
be
tested
and
sent
home.
So
that's
based
on
guidelines.
You
know
it's
not
comforting
really
for
anybody
for
us
or
for
for
limiting
exposure,
because
MIT
as
you've
heard
many
times.
T
T
It's
pretty
devastating
and
we
haven't
even
seen
the
worst
of
it.
I
mean
most
of
it
is
at
this
time.
Fear
and
anxiety
of
the
unknown
and
of
the
most
of
the
anxiety
is
produced
around
the
fact
that
we're
we're
sure
there's
not
enough
personal
protection
equipment
for
us.
I
know
Tufts,
is
offering.
We
have
a
robust
employee
assistant
program
and
they've
extended
their
hours.
Have
people
on
site
offered
tell
accounting
our
insurance
companies.
We
have
two
plans
that
nurses
can
pick
from
and
they
both
have.
T
G
So
I'm
just
curious
in
terms
of
I've
heard
from
a
lot
of
people
that
they
have
gone
to
hospitals
that
have
been
turned
away
because
they
don't
fit
within
a
specific
criteria
in
terms
of
getting
testing.
Where
are
they
being
referred
to?
What
are
they
going?
Are
they
told
to
go
to
a
local
community
health
center?
How
are
they
being
sent
back
I.
U
Have
no
know
anybody
being
turned
away
from
from
from
testing
anybody
who
meets
any
of
the
criteria
has
been
tested
up
until
last
week.
The
turnaround
time
for
a
test
was
10
days,
beginning
this
week.
It's
down
to
about
four
days.
The
the
message
here
is:
even
if
somebody
doesn't
eat
the
criteria
and
they,
if
they're
it's
a
fairly
lack
set
of
criteria.
We
all
need
to
be
doing
the
same
thing.
So
a
positive
test
or
a
negative
test
result
should
not
change
one's
behavior,
and
that
is
we
need
to
do.
U
U
Their
lives
will
be
minimally
impacted
by
this
and,
frankly,
a
negative
test
result
doesn't
really
shouldn't
change
life
all
that
much
for
anybody.
We
all
need
to
continue
doing
the
same
things
and
I
just
like
to
make
one
observation.
I've
seen
everybody
on
this
screen
touch
their
faces
more
than
once,
while
we're
on.
We
all
need
to
be
ten,
pretend
that
we're
wearing
big
Elizabethan
ruffs
or
something
like
that.
Keep
your
hands
below
your
shoulders,
that
that
would
help
us
all
immensely
okay.
G
Well,
I
got
that
no
time
so
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
flag
for
our.
My
colleagues
is
that
that
I've
heard
from
a
lot
from
some
folks
out
in
the
community
that
they
have
tried
to
get
testing
and
because
they
deem
it
a
criteria
or
turned
away
so
just
wanted
to
flag
that,
and
the
last
question
is
on
the
business
side
in
regards
to
I
mean
I'm,
always
all
about
trying
to
find
the
silver
lining
and
the
blessing
in
disguise
here
in
terms
of
how
we
can
do
business
differently
in
the
city
of
Boston.
G
So
I
think
that
the
coronavirus
is
really
pushing
us
in
that
direction.
I'm
just
curious
as
to
what.
How
are
you
this
question
is
for
Mary
Emily
Martha
in
regards
to
how
are
you
repurposing
workers,
who
are
showing
up?
Who
can
still
work
in
the
hotel
industry?
What
type
of
what
type
of
work
are
they
doing
in
those
spaces.
S
Honestly,
I
I,
don't
think
there
are
many
showing
up
anymore.
I
have
to
be
totally
honest.
Every
Hotel
closures
grows
and,
at
this
point,
there's
just
not
much
available
in
the
service
sector
for
these
wonderful
frontline
employees
that
we
care
deeply
about.
So
our
hope
is
that
we
can
get
some
relief
in
the
form
of
some
stimulus
from
the
federal
government
that
will
help
sustain
them
with
some
direct
payroll
benefits.
But
at
this
point,
given
the
state
of
the
shutdown
so
to
speak,
it's
just
not
feasible
that
we're
able
to
position
them.
G
A
F
T
T
There
probably
are
a
variety
of
things
that
I
personally
am
NOT.
Organising
things
I
know
that
it
Tufts
several
retired
errands
have
reached
out
to
me.
I've
asked
them
to
touch
base
with
their
colleagues,
their
former
colleagues
on
their
units
that
they
used
to
work
on
and
ask
if
there's
anything
they
can
do
individually
and
I
will
look
to
my
chief
nursing
officer
to
see
if
there's
a
way,
we
can
utilize
those
nurses
that
want
to
return.
F
T
Is
correct
at
Tufts
we
have
a
strict
criteria
and
it
depends
on
the
amount
of
exposure
and
the
type
of
exposure
that
you
might
have
had
to
either
a
case
or
a
co-worker.
I.
Don't
have
those
specifics
in
front
of
me,
but
it's
it's
very
clearly
defined,
and
so
whatever
category
you
fall
into
that's
based
on
how
you
respond
to
whether
or
not
you
should
work
or
whether
or
not
you
should
be
quarantined
so.
F
T
We
don't
have
anything
specific
we've
asked
nurses
to
be
creative
in
their
own
homes,
and,
and
many
of
us
have
I
know,
I
have
a
separate
room,
so
I
don't
expose
myself
to
my
husband,
and
a
lot
of
nurses
are
doing
that
they're.
In
fact,
just
doing
it
preemptively
the
children
have
been
sent
to
stay
with,
say
grandparents
or
some
other
family
member.
That
can
care
for
them
during
this
time
to
limit
that
kind
of
exposure,
but
segregating
ourselves
within
our
own
households,
and
most
of
us
are
pretty
hyper
when
it
comes
to
cleaning.
T
So
you
know
just
following
those
kind
of
steps
or
what
we
were
doing.
Currently,
there
has
been
some
discussion.
Nothing
definitive
in
terms
of
making
arrangements
for
areas
for
quarantine
like
Tufts
University
is
released
rooms
to
be
used
for
either
staff
or
perhaps
down
the
line
creating
hospital
beds
for
quarantine.
Patients
like
we
do.
We
are
looking
into
some
more
creative
ways
to
quarantine,
depending
on
how
much
of
that
population
explodes.
When
the
time
comes.
T
U
Know
I
do
know
of
a
member
of
the
senior
leadership
team
who
sent
her
young
adult
son
to
a
way
to
a
bed
and
breakfast
because
she
had
another
child
who
actually
tested
positive
and
cheese
and
were
wearing
a
mask.
So
she's
had
a
significant
exposure.
She
lives
with
some
who
has
had
a
confirmed,
positive
and
she's
asymptomatic,
so
she
isn't
work
and
she
she
is
wearing
a
mask.
U
I,
do
know
of
a
nurse
who
has
sent
her
her
seven-year-old
child
away
with
relatives
for
the
duration
and
I
know
if
somebody
else
who
commandeered
her
teenage
sons
vehicle
she's
using
that
exclusively
but
she's,
not
contaminating
the
family
vehicle
where
we're
getting
pretty
creative
and
we're
thinking
beyond
the
first
second
and
third
steps
in
an
effort
to
in
an
effort
to
curtail
this
and
to
to
raise
the
consciousness
of
people
to
get
people
thinking
about
what
what
we
need
to
do
to
stop.
This
I
think
the
the
thing
that's
really
impacted.
U
Nurses
is
a
lot
of
us,
are
we're
frightened
and
it's
a
little
bit
lonely.
Sometimes
as
we
we
want
to
I.
We
want
to
show
our
families
and
I
loved
ones
just
how
much
we
love
them
by
removing
I'm
by
removing
ourselves
from
their
lives.
I
have
to
say
one
of
the
things
that's
been
really
tough
in
the
front
line
and
at
the
hospital
is
separating
patients
from
their
visitors.
There's
a
no
visitor
policy,
except
within
a
couple
of
very
specific
circumstances
and
that's
been
a
hardship.
U
T
We
are
getting
creative
in
terms
of
moving
nurses
out
of
procedural
areas
into
bedside.
Units
to
you
know,
assist
at
least
with
patient
care
assignments,
but
you
know
I
know
it
may
feel
uncomfortable
in
terms
of
what
how
we're
practicing
the
exposure
symptomatic
versus
asymptomatic
and
having
nurses
work,
but
to
out
anybody
that
was
potentially
exposed
and
is
not
yet
positive.
You're
going
to
be
subtracting
a
large
part
of
the
workforce
and
that
will
create
additional
problems.
So
we're
walking
a
very
fine
line
here.
U
U
The
the
moment
that's
most
unsafe.
The
moment
that
a
nurse
is
most
likely
to
be
to
be
exposed
to
coronavirus
is
when
they
adopted
as
they're
removing
their
PPE
and
if
we,
if
I'm
taking
care
of
five
patients
and
I'm
doffing
equipment
five
times
a
day,
that's
five
at
a
minimum
or
doffing
once
for
each
patient.
That's
a
significant
amount
of
exposure.
U
If
we
were
taking
care
of
fewer
patients,
if
the
hospitals
are
staffing
up
with
nurses
that
we
didn't
have
to
take
care
of
so
many
patients,
we
could
maybe
avoid
or
lower
the
risk,
and
if,
if
we
weren't
so
rushed
there,
just
no
time
to
provide
the
care
we
need,
and
now
the
donning
and
doffing
process
is
it.
It
can
take
several
minutes
for
each
patient.
U
One
of
the
benefits
of
the
drive
and
test
center
is
that
you
avoid
that,
rather
than
test
center,
when,
when
people
stay
in
there
cos,
the
only
thing
the
tester
needs
to
change
is
gloves.
The
tester
can
stay
in
the
same
hood
and
gown
when
people
come
to
the
hospital
and
they
want
to
be
tested
individually
in
its
donning
and
doffing
for
each
patient
and
it's
using
up
tremendous
resources.
I
think
we
could.
We
could
make
those
resources.
Last
longer
we
were
doing
more
drive
up
testing
yeah.
F
F
T
So
we
at
Tufts
have
cohorted
on
two
separate
areas
right
now
and
we're
working
on
additional
areas.
We've
converted
two
units
into
one
large,
intensive
care
unit
area
for
Co,
vid,
positive
patients,
and
we
also
have
redirected
one
floor
for
not
so
acutely
ill,
co,
vid,
positive
patients
and
we're
currently
working
to
create
more
intensive
care
unit
beds
in
other
areas
of
the
hospital,
the
I'm,
not
sure
of
the
numbers.
So
please
don't
quote
me
on
this,
but
we,
the
ICU
patients
that
we've
had
have
not
been
they
haven't,
died.
Let's
just
say
that
you.
I
F
F
C
A
K
I'm
also
concerned
by
the
opportunity,
as
many
of
you
know,
to
have
served
overseas
and
I'm
part
of
this
Gulf
War
registry-
that,
if
you've
been
exposed
to
different
toxins
in
that
area,
but
I
I
feel
the
same
way
about
our
our
nurses.
What
the
short-term
health
concerns
are,
but
also
the
long-term
health
concerns
are
for
our
nurses
in
their
families.
K
So
I
think
this
is
something
that
we
really
have
to
focus
on
as
a
City
Council
and
as
a
city
to
make
sure
that
our
nurses
not
only
have
the
the
protection
now
but
but
long
term.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
follow
up
and
make
sure
that
we
do
a
complete
study
on
on
their
overall
health
as
well,
because
I
have
some
have
some
significant
concerns
about
about
that
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask
the
nurses
if
they,
if
they
also
feel
that
that
same
way,.
T
Absolutely
I
think
you
know
the
biggest
worry
is
long-term
respiratory
compromise,
since
that's
what's
killing
patient
and
even
if
you
survive,
you
probably
sustained
some
damage
to
your
lungs,
which
would
then
lead
you
to
be.
You
know
open
to
other
respiratory
problems
in
the
years
to
come.
They'll
obviously
need
to
be
a
lot
of
tracking
about
that.
I
rely
on
our
esteemed
colleague
at
Harvard,
dr.
T
lipstick,
I'm
sure
that
studies
will
be
going
out
about
that
and
also
Harvard
does
a
long-term
nursing
survey
yearly,
which
they've
been
doing
for
more
than
30
years
now
and
I'm
sure
they'll
add
that
to
their
questionnaire
but
yeah,
the
the
respiratory
compromise
is
going
to
be
the
biggest
issue,
I
think
in
terms
of
physical,
physical
damage
done
and,
of
course,
there's
the
emotional
trauma
of
what
we
were
about
to
sustain
in
our
daily
work
lives.
I.
U
Predict
that
there
will
be
a
post,
corona
respiratory
syndrome,
based
on
what
I've
seen
the
x-rays
of
patients
who
are
in
the
cat's
cancer
patients
who
are
positive.
There
is
a
significant
lung
involvement.
It
almost
looks
like
am
something
that,
like
an
odds
and
a
tougher,
an
adult
respiratory
distress
syndrome
which
syndrome
which,
which
is
frequently
the
result
of
a
battle
wound
or
some
sort
of
horrific
trauma.
U
The
lungs
are
just
that
impacted
by
this
I
can't
imagine
that
in
the
years
to
come,
we
won't
see
fallout
from
this
and
as
far
as
the
trauma
to
nurses,
it's
not
just
so
it.
The
majority
of
us
are
nurses,
but
we
also
have
nursing
assistants
in
text
and
the
respiratory
therapists
who
will
be
stretched
so
thin,
I
I
think
that
we
will
look.
We
will
end
up
dividing
our
lives
into
pre,
CRO,
pre,
Kuroda
and
post
Corona.
I.
Think.
T
U
I
H
U
U
You
councillor
Flynn
and
thank
you
for
your
service.
Thank
you.
I
know
that
nurses
have
looked
into
booking
hotel
rooms
locally
in
order
to
stay
away
from
their
families.
It's
that
becomes
quite
pricey
and
absolutely
out
of
the
reach
of
anybody
who's
in
any
of
the
techs
or
nursing
assistants.
Financially,
they
couldn't
possibly
hope
to
afford
to
rent
a
hotel
room
Nia
in
Boston.
K
Yeah
I
I
I
would
think
that
the
the
the
hotels
in
the
colleges
and
universities,
those
rooms
in
my
opinion
should
be
should
be
free
for
how
a
medical
personnel,
so
they
could
that
they
could
stay
there
in
quarantine,
but
I
know
there's
further
discussions.
That's
that
continues
to
take
place,
but
that's
something
we
are
going
to
be
staying
on
top
of
working
closely
with
MA
as
well.
Oh.
T
K
A
Royal
Thank
You
councillor
Sami
George.
Do
you
have
any
questions?
No
thank
you.
I
I,
believe
that
leaves
me
before
we
go
into
the
second
round.
I
again
want
to
thank
everybody
for
their
for
the
participation,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
try
and
structure
this
in
a
way.
So
my
first
question
for
our
two
nurses,
I
know:
there's
been
some
conversation.
We
just
talked
about
the
housing
situation,
with
hotels,
possibly
as
a
solution,
but
in
terms
of
parking.
A
lot
of
folks
are
having
to
park
it
maybe
having
to
pay
for
parking.
A
Are
there
any
places
where
you
know
we
can
try
to
use
our
municipal,
our
municipal
capital,
to
try
and
push
folks
to
do
the
right
thing
here:
I
think
which
would
be
to
reduce
rates
or
to
frankly,
preferably
have
no
rates
for
our
fund
line.
Medical
staff
is
there?
Is
there
any
place
where
that's
currently
being
provided
that
you're,
aware
of
or
places
where
that
should
be
provided?
We've.
T
Made
some
adjustments
at
Tufts
those
people
that
were
taking
public
transportation
and,
had
you
know
the
the
valid
t
pass
can
now
park
in
the
closest
parking
lot,
and
our
hospital
has
been
very
good
about
that
they've
made
allocations.
We
do
have
three
employee
parking
lots
that
are
within.
You
know
two
blocks,
so
they
also
run
a
shuttle
service
and
we
do
need
to
adjust
that
it
would
be
wonderful
if
parking
could
be
reduced.
I
know
as
a
night
shift
worker
myself.
T
U
Would
like
to
see
every
frontline
care
provider
off
of
shuttle
buses?
I
think
what-whatever
facilities
have
to
do
to
make
it
so
that
anybody
providing
direct
care
can
park
on
the
property
are
very,
very
close
to
the
property
and
I.
Don't
think
anybody
should
I,
don't
think
any
of
us
providing
providing
direct
care
should
be
the
burden
of
that
shift.
I.
A
A
A
So
one
of
the
things
that
you
spoke
about,
which
I
thought
was
very
interesting
not
here,
but
in
the
press
you
asked
the
question
about
this
and
you
brought
up
maybe
tracking
through
apps,
maybe
creating
an
application
attract
folks
as
a
way
that
also
tracked
breakouts
in
to
do
so.
In
a
way,
that's
maybe
less,
authoritarian
or
or
you
know,
Big
Brother
II.
Is
there
a?
Is
there
any
work
being
done
on
that?
Is
there
anything
you
can
add
on
kind
of
what
your
idea
there
is
and
what?
How
do
you
see
that
work
there.
R
Are
a
number
of
groups
that
are
actively
researching
how
we
might
better
leverage,
mobile
applications
and
mobility
data
on
individuals
to
better
understand
the
progression
of
the
outbreak,
but
also
monitor
individuals
as
they
either
progress
through
symptoms
or
receive
receive
a
negative
test
results?
You
know
one
of
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
that
we
have
right
now
is
just
really
understanding
the
total
burden
of
individuals
that
are
maybe
currently
in
the
exposed
portion
of
dealing
with
the
koban
infection
and
may
show
up
to
the
hospitals.
R
I
think,
there's
a
way
that
we
can
be
smart
about
it
and
balance
the
important
privacy
rights
that
we
all
have
in
the
United
States.
With
the
need
to
to
capture
vital
information
for
our
public
health,
public
health
officials,
so
that
that
is
a
very
active
area
of
research,
but
I
think
it's
it's
a
conversation
that
individuals
like
yourselves,
are
going
to
need
to
be
actively
involved
in.
How
do
we
balance
the
critical
privacy
rights
with
with
the
public
health
need
and
and
the
need
to
protect?
A
So,
just
as
a
follow-up
on
that,
you
know
as
we
as
we
deal
with
this
pandemic,
it
is
emergent
in
terms
of
its
size
and
scope
every
day
it's
moving
and
it's
doing
different
things,
and
it's
growing,
seemingly
by
the
day.
How
quickly
could,
if,
if
we
were
able
to
mobilize
on
some
kind
of
creation
and
that
to
essentially
track
you
know.
A
R
Technically
it
can
be
done
very
quickly,
I
mean
in
terms
of
the
types
of
things
we
would
need
to
do.
It's
relatively
simple
from
the
technology
perspective
and
we're,
of
course,
fortunate
to
be
in
Boston.
We
have
some
of
the
leading
privacy
experts
and
health
privacy
experts
in
the
world
to
help
us
think
through
all
of
the
gotchas
that
are
going
to
be
associated
with
gathering
that
kind
of
information
and
being
sure
that
we
don't
expose
anyone.
R
But
then,
as
we're
hearing
from
from
our
nurses,
you
know
progress
in
the
symptom
severity
that
you
know
the
peak
in
the
hospitalization
demand
the
peak
in
the
ICU
demand
and,
unfortunately,
the
peak
in
mortality
is
gonna,
be
weeks
and
weeks
after
the
cases
spike.
So
everything
we're
doing
today.
It's
not
for
the
cases
tomorrow
that
dies
already
been
cast
for
those
cases.
It's
the
cases
that
are
gonna
happen.
You
know
weeks
from
now,
which
is,
which
is
why
individuals
need
to
take
the
self-isolation
seriously.
R
I
mean
seeing
individuals
like
our
political
leaders
in
Washington,
going
to
the
gym,
while
they're
waiting
on
a
positive
test
results.
It
is
beyond
reckless,
and
so
we
need
to
do
things
to
really
ensure
that
individuals
that
might
have
been
exposed
ourselves
isolating
so
that
we
can
stop
this
outbreak
from
from
continuing
to
grow
exponentially
fast
and.
A
So
then
I
have
a
two
more
questions.
One
may
be.
What
is
definitely
for
you,
the
other
one
may
be
for
you
and
maybe
for
our
nurses.
I
know:
you've
created
a
model
of
the
corona
virus
in
comparison
to
how
it's
it's
growing
in
Massachusetts,
as
opposed
to
South,
Korea
or
China,
or
Italy
I'm
curious
as
to
what
that
model
is
informing
you
in
and
how
that
might
inform
some
of
our
decision-making
well.
R
We
are
ahead
with
respect
to
what
Boston
is
doing
with
what
Massachusetts
is
doing,
but
those
measures
really
were
only
put
in
place
about
a
week
ago,
and
it's
gonna
take
another
week
or
two
before
we
start
to
see
the
payoff,
which
means
that
we're
gonna
have
to
keep
these
measures
in
place
and
and
that's
gonna
be
hard.
And
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
providing
for
our
individuals
that
are
that
are
at
risk
in
the
population,
the
individuals
that
are
going
to
be
bearing
the
burden
of
the
flatten
the
curve
initiative.
R
But
what
the
models
do
tell
us
and
what
we
see
in
South,
Korea
and
other
places
is
that
they
work.
And
so,
if
you
implement
these
kinds
of
measures,
they
work
to
bring
down
the
number
of
cases
they
work
to
bring
down
the
peak
demand
on
the
hospitals
and
at
least
give
our
health
care
workers
as
much
of
a
chance
as
possible
to
save
lives
and
protect
themselves.
And
so
we
really
need
to
take
this
very
very
seriously.
While
balancing
the
very,
very
serious
economic
effects
that
we've
also
heard
of
and.
A
A
My
questions
here
as
a
lay
person,
if
we
are
not
accurately
testing
which,
by
all
reports,
were
not
in
the
sense
that
we
don't
have
enough
tests
to
essentially-
and
we
don't
have
enough
time
in
between
those
tests-
I
really
get
a
scope
of
the
problem
or
a
general
scope
of
the
problem.
At
what
point
should
we
be
making
decisions
based
more
on
mitigation
as
opposed
to
containment,
or
are
those
things
always
and
always
capable
of
being
done,
even
without
proper
testing.
U
So
it
may
I
always
thought
that
whether
one
tests
negative
or
positive,
the
behavior
should
be
the
change.
Unless
and
until
there's
a
definitive
treatment
where
we
can
say
where
we
can
say
this
will
chaton
the
the
impact
or
diminish
the
impact
of
the
illness
lesson
until
we
have
something
that
can
do
that
testing
doesn't
change
anything.
We
all
still
need
to
behave
as
if
we're
infected.
We
all
still
need
to
follow,
follow
the
best
practices
for
minimizing
exposure
and
minimizing
transference.
U
Even
so,
even
if
you
test
negative
today
and
by
virtue
of
any
test
there
will
be
false
negatives,
even
if,
if
somebody
tests
negative
today,
they
could
test
positive
tomorrow,
the
behavior
should
never
ever
change
and
the
treatment
should
never
ever
change.
Unless
and
until
again,
I
say,
as
I
said.
Unless
and
until
there
isn't
definitive
treatment.
We
should
consider
everybody
positive
all
the
time.
I
A
So,
essentially,
what
I'm
hearing
from
our
medical
professionals
is
make
sure
you
continue
to
self
isolate,
make
sure
you,
regardless
of
what
you
you
believe
your
test
results
may
be
regardless.
What
your
test
results
are,
if
they're
negative,
that
the
best
thing
that
anybody
can
do
in
this
situation,
if
they
want
to
help
our
frontline
workers,
if
they
want
to
help
the
rest
of
us
with
the
pandemic
in
terms
of
controlling
this
pandemic,
is
to
self
isolate
and
to
essentially
physically
distance
themselves
continuously.
A
R
It's
worth
I
completely
agree,
and-
and
you
know
my
perspective-
is
one
thinking
about
the
testing.
We're
gonna
need
as
we
move
forward
from
this,
and,
and
so
we
everyone
absolutely
especially
given
the
potential
for
pre-symptomatic
transmission,
that
you're
really
you're
you're,
essentially
and,
of
course,
is
just
me
speaking
as
a
concerned.
Citizen
now
you're,
essentially
putting
the
public
at
risk
and
and
disrespecting
the
sacrifice
that
our
frontline
workers
are
making
by
by
not
taking
this
seriously
and.
A
Then
one
follow-up
to
mr.
scarpino
before
I
had
to
mr.
Anson
Ellis.
You
mentioned
that
we're
where
we
are
right
now
we're
trying
to
deal
with
folks
that
are
covering
the
door
right
now,
we're
not
necessarily
looking
at
folks
that
are
coming
into
the
three
weeks,
and
so,
if
you
just
give
me
some
some
background
as
to
when
you
what
you
mean
by
that
and
some
things
that
we
can
be
thinking
about
for
thinking
as
city
leaders
on
ways
that
we
can
try
and
get
ahead
of
something
that
so
far
has
been
very.
R
Absolutely
so
the
the
average
time
from
exposure
to
symptom
onset
is
five
days.
It
can
be
as
long
as
14
days,
which
is
where
that
two-week
isolation
comes
from
most
of
the
the
hospitalization
time
can
be,
you
know,
weeks
long
and
it
gets
much
longer
at
the
individual
has
ends
up
going
through
a
severe
set
of
symptoms,
and
so
the
individuals
that
are
coming
into
our
hospitals
today,
we're
probably
exposed
a
week
ago
or
more
to
the
infection.
In
addition,
when
we
see
these
confirmed
test
results
oftentimes,
what
happens?
R
What's
gonna
happen
a
week
from
now
two
weeks
from
now,
as
you
said,
to
stop
being
so
reactive,
my
position
and
what
we
see
in
the
models
is
that
individuals
need
to
mobilize
in
a
way
that
we
have
really
not
mobilized
for
something
in
most
of
our
lifetimes.
I
think
we
have
the
capacity
in
this
country
to
provide
the
manufacturing
of
personal
protective
equipment
of
masks
of
ventilators
to
make
the
facilities
available.
R
Today,
it's
just
going
to
be
that
much
worse
when
we
start
doing
them
and
so
I
think,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
mobilize,
we
can
ways
to
get
people
to
work
that
are
out
of
a
job
and
looking
for
a
job
leverage
money
coming,
hopefully
from
the
federal
government.
I
think
we
have
to
be
doing
that
right
now,
because
this
is
just
gonna
keep
getting
worse.
R
A
O
O
O
My
understanding
is
that
staff
coming
in
if
their
temperature
is,
is
beyond
the
limit
that
we've
said
they
are
being
refused
entry
to
the
facility
and
asked
to
return
home
work
from
home,
if
appropriate,
until
their
fever
subsides.
If
a
if
an
inmate
coming
into
the
facility
has
a
fever
or
is
exhibiting
symptoms
again,
my
understanding
is
that
we
are
setting
up
space
within
the
facility
to
isolate
those
individuals,
so
they're
not
entering
general
population.
O
O
O
Yes,
the
sheriff
who
implemented
that
policy
I
believe
two
weeks
ago,
the
only
visitations
they
mates
are
allowed
at
the
moment
are
from
their
attorneys
and
clergy,
and
those
meetings
are
being
held
behind
glass,
an
effort
to
stop
the
infection
from
reaching
inmates
directly
at
the
House
of
Corrections.
For
example,
we
have
a
contact,
visitation
area
traditionally
in
you
know
where
appropriate
inmates
were
able
to
be
able
to
interact
with
their
visitors.
O
We
have
had
to
stop
that,
but
as
it
means
of
mitigating
it,
as
I
said,
we
are
offering
free
phone
calls
twice
a
week,
because
we
know
that
visitation
is
such
a
crucial,
crucial
part
of
the
rehabilitation
process.
It's
so
much
more
helpful
when
inmates
have
that
connection
on
the
outside
that
you
know
they
have
someone
to
talk
to
something
to
strive
to,
and
we
took
that
we
made
that
decision.
The
sheriff
made
that
decision.
O
It
was
a
very
difficult
decision
to
made,
but
the
health
of
the
inmates
in
those
workings
facility
had
the
you
know.
We
have
to
prioritize
right
now
as
difficult.
It
is,
and
so
I
said
we
are
doing
the
free
phone
calls
and
we
are
trying
to
expand
that
service,
because
we
know
that
visitation
in
contact
with
family
and
friends
and
those
on
the
outside
is
so
critical.
Thank.
O
Yes,
we
do,
we
do
have
video
capacity,
we've
been,
you
know,
kind
of
evolving
with
criminal
justice.
You
know,
as
the
whole
industry
has
been
going
sort
of.
You
know
you
know
kind
of
using
video
and
instead
of
like
transporting
people
to
court
for
hearings
and
so
forth,
could
we
do
video
so
that
technology
is
there?
And
yes,
we
have
been
trying
to
use
that
technology
to
expand
access
for
the
inmates
to
connect
with
people
on
the
outside
and
I
will
confirm
with
the
sheriff
those
efforts
and
I'm
happy
to
report
back.
Thank.
A
You
I
appreciate
that
in
that
I
appreciate
the
efforts
are
taking
to
maintain
the
safety
of
staff
in
the
folks
in
your
custody.
At
this
time,
I'm
gonna
take
a
quick
look
at
who
we
still
have
online.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
for
round
two?
You
just
raise
your
hand
if
you
do
and
now
and
I'll
send
you
I'm
not
seeing
any
hands
so
with
that
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
put
this
into
recess.
I
do
want
to
note
that
we
had
invited
representatives
for
the
hospitals
to
new
health
centers
and
for
the
administration.
A
Obviously,
with
the
way
things
are
progressing
day
by
day,
they
have
very
hard
work
on
their
hands.
They're
they're
dealing
with
things
that
are
happening
as
as
we
speak,
the
secured
in
place
went
into
the
advisory
for
a
secure
placement
into
the
place
today.
The
goal
and
intention
I
believe
they
will
be
participating
in
future
hearings
that
we
conducted
this
way.
I
appreciate
everybody
who's
able
to
do.
A
This
I
appreciate
those
that
weren't
able
to
do
this
because
they're
out
doing
the
work
on
the
front
lines
as
we
speak,
a
number
of
doctors
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
I'm
grateful
for
your
participation
in
this
new
medium
I'm.
Not
sure
we've
done
this
before
I
would
tell
my
colleagues
that
this
has
actually
been
easier.
I
would
say
then
perhaps
I
would
have
thought
it
would
have
been
to
navigate
something
like
this.
Perhaps
we
should
elect
more
Millennials.
A
A
We're
gonna,
try
and
do
public
comment
through
through
this
medium
and
so
we'll
stay
open
for
another
15
minutes
after
this
to
allow
folks
to
kind
of
come
online,
and
do
this
I
also
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
carry
Jordan
who's,
been
doing
a
the
work
behind
the
scenes
to
really
make
sure
that
this
works.
So,
thank
you
to
you,
sir,
and
the
rest
of
our
staff
and
colleagues
who
come
through
in
this
way.
A
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
folks
who
are
listening,
if
you
feel
like
you,
have
some
symptoms
or
you
have
questions,
you're
asked
to
call
3-1-1.
If
you
here's
a
item,
Boston
two
one
one
for
the
rest
of
the
states
and
then
we
also
have
existence
where
we
have
you
here.
If
I
can
pull
this
out,
if
you
can
text
the
hold
on
one.
Second,
we
have
a
text
system
for
folks
as
they
look
for
details
to
be
communicated
to
them,
as
this
is
ongoing.
K
Briefly,
counsel,
a
royal
during
this
crisis
I
just
wanted
a
highlight.
It's
also
critical.
We
continue
to
come
together
as
a
city
and
especially
treat
our
immigrant
neighbors
with
dignity
and
respect
and
empathy.
This
is
a
time
for
bringing
people
together.
It's
not
a
time
of
division
in
it's
critical
that
we
don't
blame
anybody
for
this
epidemic.
That's
take
in
place
in
our
country.
I
have
a
proud
and
great
relationship
with
the
Chinese
community
in
our
city,
but
I'm
also,
unfortunately,
seeing
a
lot
of
anti-chinese
sentiment
happening
across
the
country.
K
A
C
G
Lera
yo,
just
for
clarity's
sake,
it
sounds
like
we're.
Gonna
be
moving
on
to
a
different
part
of
the
hearing,
so
we're
gonna
be
going
into
public
hearing.
So
are
we
gonna?
Do
we
have
to
log
on
to
I?
Think
Matt
just
said
we
have
to
go
somewhere
else.
You
said
a
recess
or
15
minutes.
Do
we
have
a
15
minute
break
and
then
we
come
back
so.
A
Let
me
let
me
get
into
that.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
we're
gonna
we're
gonna.
Do
I'm
gonna,
give
us
15
minutes
it's
for
22
I'm
gonna,
give
everybody
15
minutes
to
get
into
that
room
and
then
and
then
we'll
go
from
there
once
once.
This
meeting
is
adjourned.
Okay,
okay!
So
so
that's
already
out
there
everybody
does
everybody!
It's
in
the
email.
G
So
thank
you
for
that
and
then,
if
we're
gonna,
do
closing
remarks,
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
shout
out
to
counselor
Troi
yo
for
hosting
his
first
hearing
and
doing
so
under
these
circumstances,
and
you've
done
an
amazing
job
and
keeping
the
conversation
going
and
I
work
with
energy
and
even
though
I
couldn't
feel
people's
energy.
I
could
still
see
it,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
thank
everyone
for
being
so
engaged
in
this
process.
It
was
very
informative.
G
I've
learned
a
lot
and
the
voice
that
I
always
bring
into
the
space
are
the
voices
of
the
people
who
are
never
in
these
situations.
So
I
may
not
always
have
the
right
terminology.
I
mean
know
how
to
say
things
the
way
you
know
we're
supposed
to
say
them,
but
I
just
wanted
to
just
say
thank
you
for
keeping
us
on
track
and
keeping
us
going
and
in
creating
an
opportunity
for
people
to
ask
these
questions
I'm
so
good
job
and
keep
it
up.
Thank
you.
A
E
So
I
want
to
ditto
I
want
to
echo
what
custom
here
just
said.
First,
let
me
just
thank
all
the
panelists
I
think
all
of
you
were
very
informative.
Many
of
you
are
on
the
front
lines.
I
appreciate
the
work
that
you
do.
We
are
here
for
you,
whatever
movement
folks
want
to
do
I'm
sure
all
of
my
colleagues
would
want
to
sign
on
to
all
of
the
efforts
to
support
the
work
that
you're
doing
certainly
want
to
thank
the
makers
of
this
hearing
order.
Thank
you.
This
is
a
very
important
conversation.
E
Thank
thank
everyone
for
staying
engaged.
For
you
know
here
we
are
425
for
one
o'clock
hearing
and
then
councillor
Arroyo,
just
spectacular
as
councilman
here
just
said,
your
very
first
airing-
and
you
know
it's
the
very
first
virtual
hearing
that
we're
holding
as
a
council
so
baptism
by
fire.
You
did
a
wonderful
job.
This
you
know
gives
us
hope,
because
this
allows
us
to
bring
more
people
in
and
it
makes
our
work
more
accessible
and
so
I'm
excited
to
get
into
the
the
next
chat
room.
E
F
I
just
quickly
wanted
to
say
thank
you
so
much
to
everyone
who
participated,
Thank
You,
councillor,
Roy,
Oh,
spectacular
hearing
it
was.
It
was
wonderful
to
bring
all
these
people
together
and
have
this
conversation
is
very
necessary
and
for
the
nurses
and
the
doctors
and
all
the
frontline
folks
Stacey
be
well,
and
please
let
us
know
if
there's
anything
we
can
do
to
help.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
thank.
D
You
I
just
want
to
echo
the
incredible
panelists
in
in
all
of
the
recommendations
that
you've
laid
out
we'll
work
our
hardest
to
follow
it
up
with
policy.
Thank
you
especially
to
those
on
the
front
lines
and
and
to
our
nurses,
for
taking
the
time
to
our
epidemiologists
and
others.
We've
learned
a
lot
and
looking
forward
to
keeping
the
conversation
going.
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman,
it's
an
incredible
job
and
it's
been
thank
you
thank.
A
You,
and
so
with
that
I'm
actually
I
see
that
Rob
is
here.
Rob
is
public
comment
and
so
because
Rob's
here,
I'm
gonna
take
his
two
minutes
here
and
then
I'm
gonna
recess
we're
gonna
head
over
to
the
community
center.
A
community
comment
public
comment
section
which
is
a
separate
zoom
video
to
try
and
manage
the
the
way
that
this
gets
done
and
then
from
there
I
will
recess
this
and
we'll
have
an
additional
hearing
in
the
future
to
track
sort
of
developments
and
have
more
folks
at
the
table.
A
V
A
You
for
your
civic
engagement,
Rob,
thank
you
and
so
on
that
note
we're
gonna
head
over
to
the
other
zoom
chatted
for
the
counselors,
that's
on
the
on
the
email
that
was
sent
out
same
thing
for
our
panelists.
We're
still
here,
there's
an
email
there.
It
has
two
separate
ones
so
now
we're
going
to
the
other
one
I'm
gonna
do
a
15-minute
recess,
so
I
will
be
there
at
its
428,
so
let's
say
4:45
and
then
we
can
get
everything
up
and
running
sound
good.
All
right
see!
A
I
know:
Carrie
Jordan
is
helping
me
with
this.
Just
to
make
sure
that
only
folks
who
are
here
for
public
comment
essentially
get
called
on
I'm
gonna,
give
two
minutes
to
folks.
I'm
gonna.
Keep
you
to
that
two
minutes.
I'm
gonna
have
a
timer
going
I
appreciate,
folks,
chiming
in
and
I'm
gonna
just
dive
right
into
it.
Mr.
Harvey
I
believe
you're
here
for
public
comment
that
you
Ricky
Harvey
I.
H
I
A
Not
sure
how
long
we
typically
typically
give
for
this,
but
because
of
the
excuse
me,
I
got
gideon's
with
me:
I'm
babysitting,
my
pup,
because
we
you'll
normally
have
folks
in
chamber,
but
this
is
a
little
different.
I'm
gonna
give
folks
about
10
minutes,
so
I
figure
at
5:55
or
455.
We
can.
We
can
call
it
so
just
wait.
Another
10
minutes.
A
A
A
H
H
C
A
It's
a
good
question:
shan-pak
was
doing
a
lot
of
the
things
on
that
I
think
we
are
my
twitter.
We
stream
the
link
to
watch
it.
That's
a
good
question
and
maybe
Carrie
or
Shane
can.
Let
us
know
how
that
got
out.
I
know
that
sends
out,
but
clearly
you
could
probably
do
a
better
job
with
it.
Maybe
at
the
beginning
of
hearings,
we
make
it
more
clear.
You
know
what
that'll
be,
but
yeah
right
now,
I
know
Shane
emailed
it
out,
but
I
think
we
posted
it.
A
But
that's
that's
the
about
the
extent
of
it.
It
might
make
sense.
If
we're
doing
these
hearings
on
a
number
of
different
topics
for
the
foreseeable
future,
maybe
the
Boston
City
Council's
Twitter.
We
can
use
that
to
say
public
comment
here,
probably
comment
that
there
and
then
all
the
counselors
can
kind
of
share
that
out
their
networks.
I.
C
A
Definitely
doesn't
look
like
the
first
time,
so
thank
you,
central
staff
for
doing
what
you've
done
with
that
we've
hit.
455
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
adjourn
and
we'll
we'll
pick
a
new
date
in
the
future
to
reconvene
and
speak
to
folks
that
were
unable
to
attend
today,
because
they've
been
essentially
dealing
with
an
emerging
situation
as
we
go
forward.
Obviously,
things
are
going
to
be
changing
as
we
head
into
the
future.