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Dockets #0159, 0161, 0162, 0163, 0164, 0166 - Hearing regarding various Boston Fire Department and Boston Police Department grants
A
2021
national
sex
assault,
kitten
initiative
awarded
by
the
united
states
department
of
justice
to
be
administered
by
the
boston
police
department,
market,
0162
message
in
order
authorizing
the
city
of
boston
to
accept
and
expend
the
amount
of
527
586
dollars
in
the
form
of
a
grant
for
fiscal
year.
21
connected
and
protected
awarded
by
the
united
states
department
of
justice
for
the
administration
by
the
boston
police
department.
A
This
grant
will
fund
clinicians,
direct
project
coordinator
community
partnerships
for
translation
and
outreach
and
staff
costs
for
section
12
activities
carried
out
by
the
boston
emergency
services
team,
in
partnership
with
the
boston
police
department,
street
outreach
unit,
target
0163
message
and
order
authorizing
the
city
of
boston
to
accept
and
expend
the
amount
of
491
316
in
the
form
of
a
grant
for
the
first
responder
comprehensive
addiction
and
recovery
act.
Coordinated
agreement
awarded
by
the
united
states
department
of
health
and
human
services
to
be
administered
by
the
boston
fire
department.
A
The
grant
will
fund
a
collaborative
effort
between
the
boston
fire
department,
first
responders,
the
mayor's
office
of
recovery
services,
the
boston
public
health,
commission
and
community-based
organizations
to
improve
the
city's
response
to
the
opioid
overdoses
year.
Four
of
a
four
year
grant
talk
at
zero
one
six
four
message
and
order
authorizing
the
city
of
boston
to
accept
and
expend
the
amount
of
two
hundred
seventy
two
thousand
thirteen
dollars
in
the
form
of
a
grant
for
fiscal
year.
A
2021
dna
capacity,
enhancement
and
backlog
reduction
program
awarded
by
the
united
states
department
of
justice
to
be
administered
by
the
boston
police
department.
The
grant
will
fund
two
criminalist
positions
over
time,
lab
supplies
and
continuing
education,
expenses
and
docket
0166
messaging
order
authorizing
the
city
of
boston
to
accept
and
expend
the
amount
of
125
000
in
the
form
of
a
grant
for
fiscal
year
for
federal
fiscal
year.
A
2021
violence
against
women
act
stop
grant
awarded
by
the
united
states
department
of
justice
passed
through
the
mass
executive
office
of
public
safety
and
security
to
be
administered
by
the
boston
police
department.
The
grant
will
fund
the
civilian
violence
advocate,
who
will
provide
services
for
victims
of
jamaica,
plain
east
boston
charlestown,
as
well
as
overtime
for
all
domestic
violence
advocates.
A
This
hearing
is
being
held
virtually
according
to
chapter
20
of
the
acts
of
2021
that
modifies
certain
requirements
of
the
open,
beating
law
and
relieves
public
bodies
of
certain
requirements,
including
the
requirement
that
public
bodies
conduct
its
meeting
in
a
public
place
that
is
open
and
physically
acceptable
accessible
to
the
public.
The
public
may
watch.
This
meeting
live
on
xfinity
8,
rcn,
82,
verizon,
964
and
via
live
stream
at
www.boston.gov.
A
City
dash
council
dash
tv,
it
will
also
be
rebroadcast
at
a
later
date.
The
public
may
also
provide
written
testimony
of
via
the
video
conference.
If
anyone
listening
would
like
to
do
so,
you
should
email
the
committee
email
into
a
staff
contact
for
the
link
and
instructions
on
how
to
do
so.
Our
staff
for
this
hearing
is
cora.
Montron
cora's
email
is
as
follows:
cora
that's
c-o-r-a
dot,
montron
m-o-n-t-r-o-n-d.
A
A
That
said,
we
have
representatives
from
the
boston,
police
and
boston
fire
department,
providing
testimony
today
on
behalf
of
the
boston
fire
department.
I
see
commissioner
dempsey
is
here
along
with
deputy
commissioner
for
administration
finance,
kathleen
judge,
commission
anyone
else
joining
you
at
this
time,
I'm
no
counselor,
that's
good!
Thank
you
and
testifying
on
behalf
of
the
boston
police
department
is
jenna
savage
deputy
director
of
research
and
development,
kevin
costa
rica
and
crosstalk
wreck.
A
A
Very
good
before
I
turn
it
over
to
my
colleagues
for
brief
opening
statements
in
order
of
their
arrival.
Unless
there
are
any
objections
from
those
testifying,
I
definitely
want
to
take
darkest
0159
and
0163
together.
First,
those
are
the
fire
departments,
so
we
can.
Let
commissioner,
dempsey
and
deputy
commissioner
judge
testify,
provide
testimony,
take
any
questions
and
then
leave
so
we
can
focus
the
four
remaining
grants
with
representatives
from
the
police
department,
and
I
just
have
one
letter
of
absence
from
one
of
our
colleagues.
A
That's
specifically
documented
zero
one,
six
six.
I
also
look
forward
to
a
larger
conversation
about
how
we
can
deal
with
overtime
funding,
as
some
of
the
grants
go
to
support
aspects
of
overtime
for
individual
positions
that,
while
worthwhile
individually,
we
must
think
critically
about
overtime
expenses
and
how
it's
managed
my
staff
will
be
attending
and
I
will
be
thoroughly
I
will
thoroughly
review
the
video
hearing,
minutes
and
public
testimony
submitted
to
you
or
any
members
of
the
public
have
any
questions
or
concerns.
Please
do
not
hesitate
to
contact
my
office
directly,
617-635-43764.
A
So
with
that
in
order
of
arrival,
unless
some
I
don't
have
the
correct
order,
let
me
just
double
check
here:
council
president
ed
flynn
is
on
followed
by
newest
colleague,
council,
brian
orrell,
so
I'll
just
allow
my
colleagues
just
a
brief
opening
on
these
dockets
and
we'll
get
right
into
it.
Council
president
flynn.
C
C
They
work
hard
every
day
and
every
night
and
we're
so
fortunate
to
have
dedicated
and
professional
leaders
in
the
city
at
the
top,
but
also
the
rank
and
file
police
the
rank
and
file
fire
in
ems
as
well.
So,
council
faraday.
I
have
no
further
comments.
Looking
forward
to
hearing
hearing
about
the
testimony.
D
A
Thank
you,
council,
rail,
and
with
that,
commissioner
dempsey,
we're
going
to
turn
right
over
to
you
for
those
two
dockets
zero
one,
five,
nine,
that's
the
24
million
and
some
change
grant,
as
well
as
docket
0163,
which
is
year
four
of
a
four-year
grant.
If
you
can
maybe
just
dive
into
both
of
those
grants
and
then
we'll
turn
it
over
for
council
questions,
if
any
and
then
try
to
get
you
back
to
doing
what
you
do
best,
which
is
running
the
fire
department.
E
Okay,
thank
you
counselor.
So,
let's
start
off
with
the
safer
grant,
which
is
for
funding
for
85
new
firefighters,
we're
looking.
This
is
the
largest
grant
to
the
country.
By
the
way
it
will
save
the
city
over
24
million
dollars
over
the
next
three
years
for
for
salaries
for
these
85
new
recruits,
their
effective
date
will
be
february
25th
of
this
year
and,
like
I
said
it's
for
three
years,.
A
Well,
just
briefly
on
the
safer
grant,
so
that's
from
is
there?
Is
there
a
recruit
class
based
on
the
last
civil
services?
Are
they
already
vetted
and
ready
to
go,
or
is
that,
as
this
will
be
in
addition
to
that,
we'll
have
to
now
vet
for
85?
That's
one
part
of
my
question.
The
other
part
is
what,
if
any
of
this,
these
resources
go
to
the
fire
alarm
aspect.
A
I
know
that
you
got
a
lot
of
dedicated
professionals
that
answer
those
911
calls
and
manage
the
fire
scenes
in
conjunction
with
with
your
leadership.
That's
at
the
scene,
so
just
wanna
make
sure
that
we're
not
losing
sight
of
those
very
precious
positions
there
where
folks
are,
on
the
other
end
of
their
phone
in
the
911
dispatch
and
operator,
and
how
do
we
sort
of,
I
guess,
help
address
that
and
the
same
will
be
to
the
fighter
for
the
police
department.
A
E
I
I
agree,
I
agree
with
you
completely
on
the
fire
alarm
positions,
but
they're
not
included
in
this
grant.
This
is
strictly
for
online
firefighters
and
we've
been
working
diligently
over
the
past
few
months,
trying
to
get
this
class
of
85
ready
to
go
they're
all
set
ready
to
go
in
two
weeks.
Actually
yeah.
Two
weeks
from
today.
E
So
our
normal
class
runs
anywhere
close
to
you
know,
50
to
60
recruits
budgeted
from
for
this
year.
We
also
have
40
more
spots
open
which
we're
hoping
to
fill
immediately
after
this
we're
down
roughly
130
firefighters
right
now
give
or
take
some
and
and
that's
through
you
know,
retirements
and
just
regular
attrition,
so
that
that's
every
year.
E
We
need
to
keep
putting
more
people
on
to
to
keep
up
with
that,
so
this
85
will
put
us
very
close
to
keeping
getting
back
to
our
normal
strength,
staffing
breakdown.
If
you
want
to
hear
that
we've
got
division,
one
and
division.
Two
fighter
suppression
is
1208
members,
that's
73.4
percent
the
division,
three,
which
is
headquarters,
people
does
fight
prevention
and
other
you
know:
maintenance
and
whatever
291
fire
alarm
55
and
civilians
91
for
a
total
of
1
645.
E
E
C
Thank
you,
council,
flaherty
and
council
ferrari.
I
just
wanted
to
echo
what
you
mentioned.
The
important
role
fire
alarm
plays
in
our
city.
I
see
these
men
and
women
out
there
in
the
neighborhoods
almost
every
day
and
it's
it's
wonderful
to
see
to
see
them,
but
also
to
talk
to
them.
They're
professional
they're,
hard
working,
they're
dedicated
they
love
the
city,
so
they
play
a
critical
role
in
in
boston,
and
I
know
as
a
city
councilor-
and
I
know
you
you
as
well
council
flaherty.
C
It
is
critical.
We
continue
to
build
up
this
neighborhood
with
residents,
but
we
also
continue
to
build
it
up
with
great
businesses
headquarters
international
headquarters
coming
in
there
life
sciences,
but
we
desperately
need
a
fire
presence
and
we
desperately
need
an
ems
presence
and
I'm
making
that
a
top
priority
of
mine
to
get
that
done,
and
you
know
that's
we're
not
going
to
take
no
for
an
answer
on
that.
C
A
D
E
I
know
that
there
is
a
I'm,
not
sure
the
percentage
of
minorities
beyond
that
for
the
class,
but
I
know
it's
it's
relatively
good.
What
we
normally
do,
I
think
it's
up
in
the
20
range
somewhere,
but
I
I'll
get
back
to
you
on
that.
I
don't
want
to
misquote
any
numbers,
but
sorry
about
that.
I
should
have
had
that
figure
fired,
but
I.
D
A
F
Thank
you
chair.
The
questions
that
I
had
for,
commissioner
dempsey
have
already
been
answered.
I
am
fully
in
support
of
passing
this
grant.
I
do
remember
having
lots
of
conversations,
particularly
in
regards
to
the
amount
of
firefighters
in
the
city
and
how
that
number
has
been
trending
significantly
down,
and
so
I
would
be
excited
to
kind
of
have
future
conversations
around
how
the
city
can
be
supportive
and
growing.
That
number
there's
been
a
steep
decline
in
fire
houses
across
the
city,
and
I
know
that
that
has
been
an
ongoing
issue.
F
A
Good,
thank
you,
council
lara
that
wraps
up
commission,
obviously
I'll
echo
council
president,
in
addition
to
having
some
some
fire
protection
down
in
the
south
boston
waterfront
car
friday,
we
had
some
success
with
car
10
car
fires.
Car
five
is
still
on
the
radar
in
terms
of
you
know,
making
sure
that
that
area
gets
sufficient
protection
in
leadership
around
decisions
that
happen,
particularly
in
situations
in
emergency
situations.
E
Thanks
console
yes,
car
5
is
is
on
the
top
of
the
list
and
the
seaport
district
we're
looking
into
as
as
well
as
some
possible
work
out
in
brighton
austin
with
our
sock
unit,
which
we're
losing
a
building
out
there,
that
we've
been
leasing
from
harvard
and
so
we're
looking
at
what
we
can
do
with
them.
So
there's
a
lot
on
the
table
right.
A
Now
very
good,
I
appreciate
your
time
in
the
deputy's
time
and
just
lastly
for
just
for
the
for
the
cheer
and
the
committee.
If
you
can
just
get
us
a
break
down
the
demographic
breakdown
of
those
85
new
recruits
and
I'd
also
be
interested
to
find
out
if
any
of
them
given
veterans
preference.
If
any
of
them
are
not
residents
of
the
city
of
boston.
You
know,
that's
always
a
concern
of
mine.
I
appreciate
and
respect
the
veterans
preference.
A
I
have
a
personal
opinion
that
the
veterans
that
are
exercising
veterans
preference
should
be
going
back
to
the
jurisdictions
where
they
entered
the
service,
as
opposed
to
when
they
exited
the
service
and
making
sure
they
get
a
little
parochial
here,
making
sure
that
the
city
jobs
are
going
to.
You
know:
city
residents,
the
men
and
women
that
grew
up
in
the
neighborhood
went
to
the
public
schools
etc.
A
Unfortunately,
because
of
absolute
veterans
preference,
we
literally
have
veterans
coming
on
the
job
that
are
from
mississippi,
oklahoma,
texas,
etc,
which
is
great,
I
guess,
but
you
know
they'd
probably
make
a
better
firefighter
in
texas
in
oklahoma
or
mississippi,
where
they
know
those
neighborhoods.
They
know
those
streets
and
they
can
get
there
quickly.
A
You
know
we
have
the
you
know
the
three-year
residency
room
which
has
helped,
but
it
really
should
be
their
their
residency
should
be
based
on
where
they
entered
service
and
they
should
be
getting
full
benefits
where
they
entered
service,
not
where
they
come
out
and
just
kind
of
laid
a
hat.
So
it's
I'm
just
opining
about
it.
That's
one
of
the
problems
we
have
as
we
try
to
diversify
our
departments,
we're
up
against
one
civil
service
and
two,
the
absolute
veterans
preference.
A
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you,
commission.
Thank
you,
deputy
great
to
see
you
both
and
keep
up
the
great
work
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
get
these
things
turned
around
at
community
report
and
get
them
before
our
colleagues
for
a
vote
next
week.
Are
you
ready
for
the
service
yeah?
Well
then,
so
this
yeah,
the
second,
is
zero
one,
six
three,
which
is
year
four
of
four:
that's
the
491
grant
on
that.
A
So,
if
you
can
just
appreciate,
if
you
can
just
give
us
a
brief
synopsis
on
that
being
that
it's
year,
four
or
four
I'm
familiar
with
it,
but
I
I
guess
for
the
edification
of
our
two
newest
colleagues,
councilworld
and
council
lara
who
haven't
had
the
benefit
of
knowing
about
that
particular
grant.
But
you
have
the
floor.
Commission.
E
This
is
actually
a
very
good
grant
that
we
work
with
on
mult
with
multiple
people
on
this
multiple
agencies.
We
work
without
boston,
public
health,
boston,
ems
in
boston,
police
department,
we're
also
trying
to
have
the
t
police
involved
in
this
as
well,
and
this
this
all
deals
with
the
opioid
crisis
and
it's
a
free
program.
We
use
all
recovery
coaches
in
response
to
this,
the
knock
and
talk
team.
E
So
when
somebody
has
an
overdose
experience,
we
will
follow
up
with
that
by
making
a
knock
and
talk.
He
will
then
arrive
at
the
person's
house
or
whatever,
and
they
try
to
counsel
them
and-
and
they
also
work
with
the
families,
to
give
them
support
and
services
so
that
everybody
is
serviced
with
this
terrible
situation
that
they
they
end
up
in.
A
E
I
could
I
can
tell
I
can
I
can
add
to
this
that
last
year
we
we
started
what
we
call
the
delta
21
car,
which
was
which
respond
because
of
the
large
volume
of
calls
in
the
mouse
cast
area.
We
put
a
car
in
service
with
an
officer
and
one
firefighter,
and
they
responded
to
opioid
cars
from
headquarters,
which
was
the
response.
Time
was
176.2
seconds.
That
was
the
average
response
time
we're
out
of
the
door
and
they're
right
there.
A
E
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
councilman
flaherty.
Thank
you,
commissioner
dempsey.
The
program
I've
seen
the
program
work
and
I've
seen
the
firefighters.
You
know
work
with
people
dealing
with
substance,
use
challenges
and
they
provide
exceptional
support,
exceptional
leadership
in
our
city
on
this
critical
issue.
So
this
program
is
very
important
and
it's
successful.
It's
helping
people,
especially
people
that
are
in
desperate
need
of
help
and
our
firefighters
are
there
to
to
give
them
to
give
them
support.
C
D
F
Thank
you,
chair
yeah.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
now
I
am
curious
about.
I
am
a
really
big
proponent,
of
reducing
the
amount
of
armed
responses
to
people
who
are
having
either
mental
health
crises
or
struggling
with
addiction,
and
so
I'm
incredibly
hopeful
about
this
program
and
excited
about
the
possibility
of
having
expanding
this.
Do
you
respond
instead
or
in
collaboration
with
the
boston
police
department?
Can
you
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
how
that
response,
how
you're
deployed
and
who
makes
the
decision
to
who
is
deployed
where.
E
So
I
I
we
get
our
responses
from
fire
alarms,
so
we'll
get
the
call
from
that.
We
have
another,
a
person
down
or
whatever
that's
how
we
respond.
Sometimes
many
times
the
police
arrive
on
scene
as
well
as
ems,
at
the
same
time
or
relatively
close,
the
team
that
we
they
put
together
on
this
are
all
recovery.
Coaches
and,
let
me
see,
what's
the
name
of
the
the
police
portion
of
this-
is
I'm
not
sure
what
their
team
is
called?
E
Sorry
for
that,
but
we
we
have
68
recovery,
coaches,
they're,
all
trained
in
recovery
and
that's
they're,
the
ones
that
have
they're
the
only
ones
who
we
can
put
in
these
in
this
car
to
respond.
So
the
services
go
beyond
what
we
do
on
the
street.
They
also
transport
people
to
to
places
for
health
health
beyond.
F
F
My
last
question:
well,
I
have
my
last
two
questions.
One
is
this
grant
going
to
enable
you
to
expand
beyond
the
68
or
how
many
more
people
do
you
think
you'll
be
able
to
serve,
and
then
the
last
question
that
I
have
is:
do
you?
Are
you
hopeful,
in
terms
of
like
the
expansion
of
this
program,
to
evolve
into
a
partnership
with
with
ems
and
not
required.
E
Well,
there
is
a
partnership
going
on
right
now
through
this
grant
with
boston,
public
health.
You
know,
ems
and
and
the
police
units
that
deal
with
this
type
of
a
crisis
I
have
put
into
the
budget
for
next
year
to
staff
one
car
with
an
officer
and
a
firefighter
that
would
be
full
time
doing
this
right
now.
E
The
delta
21
car
is
a
seasonal
thing
and
we
go
by
the
statistics
on
on
when
the
busy
times
are
and
put
them
in
service
at
that
time,
but
talking
to
boston,
public
health
and
ems
on
this.
This
is
a
problem
that
that
can
be
anywhere
in
the
city,
so
we're
trying
to
work
out
some
kind
of
a
program
and
and
part
of
that
would
be
our
delta
22
car,
which
would
be
a
full-time
resource.
E
A
A
That'll
conclude
with
respect
to
dark
at
zero
one:
five,
nine
in
zero
one,
six,
three,
so
commission
deputy
you
guys
are
excused
for
the
remainder
of
the
hearing,
we're
going
to
dive
right
into
the
police
grants
and
our
hope
just
again
to
have
a
committee
report
turned
around
and
get
this
before
the
council
for
a
vote
next
week
and
appreciate
your
time
and
attention
today.
Thank
you,
council.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
deputy
thank
you!
A
So
jenna
you
guys
have
the
floor
in
terms
of
what
order
you'd
like
to
to
take
these,
so
I
want
to
be
sensitive
to
any
timer
constraints
from
this
panel
as
well.
So
if
there
is
a
specific
team
member
or
a
docket
that
you
would
like
to
address
first
to
allow
folks
to
go
about
their
business,
that's
fine!
If
not,
we
can
just
take
them
one
at
a
time.
B
A
A
I
A
C
Thank
you,
colleagues
of
clarity,
just
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
the
boston
police.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
visit
the
family
justice
center
several
times
with
counselor
campbell
when
she
was
when
she
was
here
and
just
want
to
acknowledge
the
professional
team.
That's
that's
over
at
the
justice
center
in
the
work
that
they
do
myself
and
council
campbell
also
had
a
city
council,
hearing
working
with
northeastern
university
law
school
on
domestic
violence,
related
issues
and
support,
support
for
survivors,
domestic
violence,
domestic
violence
survivors.
C
F
Yes,
I
think
the
question
that
I
have
is
about
the
the
victim
advocate
and
your
collaboration
with
barc
will
in
terms
of
hiring
someone
and
bringing
someone
on.
Are
those
resources
going
to
embark
directly
and
they
will
hire
somebody
who
will
be
a
victim
advocate?
Will
this
victim
advocate
be
working
with
the
boston
police
department
or
located
in
the
boston
police
department
offices?
H
I
I
can
answer
that
the
victim
advocate
will
work
out
of
the
family
justice
center
and
for
the
sexual
assault
unit
to
support
victims
of
sexual
assault,
whose
cases
will
be
revisited
for
potential
dna
testing,
and
the
zaki
victim
advocate
will
be
trained
by
the
staff
of
bach
to
provide
the
victim,
sensitive,
trauma-informed,
advocacy
and
support.
So
we
are
going
to
work
in
conjunction
with
the
boston
area.
Rape,
crisis
center
and
they'll
be
heavily
involved
with
the
training
and
in
the
work
of
this
victim
advocate.
F
Is
there
anything
being
done
to
mitigate
some
of
the
initial
the
initial
issues
in
terms
of
reporting?
I
think
that
it's
important
you
know
this
grant
is
incredibly
important.
I'm
I'm
very
much
going
to
support
it,
but
how
we
use
it,
people
being
able
and
feeling
comfortable
to
kind
of
walk
into
the
boston
police
department
to
report
is
going
to
be
dependent
on
how
accessible
and
how
separate
from
that
this
person
is.
So
I'm
curious.
H
Yeah
we
work
in
partnership
with
and,
and
we
are
victim-centered
and
trauma-informed
approach
for
these
victims.
It's
you
know
difficult
for
these
victims
to
come
forward
and
it's
very
sensitive,
and
we,
you
know,
really
advocate
that
approach
to
these
victims,
because
it
is,
there
is
so
much
trauma
you
know
and
we're
closely
with
our
partners
here.
So
we
want
to
be
very,
very
sensitive
to
the
victims,
needs
and
and
approach
it
in
that
fashion.
A
Very
good,
so
then,
captain
detective
and
lieutenant
you
guys
are
free
to
kind
of
again
go
about
your
business.
Doing
what
you
guys
do
great.
We
appreciate
the
work
you're
doing
over
there
in
the
family
justice
center,
adding
tremendous
value
so
keep
up
the
great
work
look
forward
to
working
with
you
now
and
in
the
future
great
to.
A
A
A
And
then,
and
then,
as
far
as
the
continuing
education,
so
those
civilians
are
required
to
participate
in,
they
might
have
to
go
towards
it
like
oklahoma
or
csi
school,
or
something
like
like
that.
Those
are
types
of
stuff.
We
see,
I
guess
on
tv
which
that
training.
I
guess
in
that
continuing
education
is
what
we're
talking
about
correct.
G
Yes,
we
we
do
often
send
people
to
oklahoma
to
norma
norman
oklahoma
or
the
codis
conference,
but
generally
speaking,
the
the
feds
do
pick
up
that
the
cost
for
that,
since
it's
related
to
the
dna
database.
But
that
being
said,
we
have
conferences
that
we
send
criminalists
to
whether
it's
for
continuing
education,
you
know
to
evaluate
new
technologies,
etc,
so
it
is
required
that
they
have
eight
hours
of
education
each
year.
This
grant
specifically
addresses
that
with
respect
to
continuing
it.
Four
dna
analysts.
A
C
G
Yes,
counselor.
The
boston
police
crime
lab
is
part
of
the
forensic
division
in
the
crime
lab.
There
are
23
employees,
which
include
the
majority
of
criminalists,
ranging
from
criminalist
one
all
the
way
to
criminalist
four
criminalists,
four
being
our
supervisors.
We
provide
services
in
dna
testing,
general
crime
scene
investigation,
as
well
as
general
evidence,
examination
and
trace
evidence
examination
all
of
the
criminalists
have
science
backgrounds,
whether
it
be
in
biology
chemistry,
forensic
science,
biochemistry
etc,
which
is
an
accreditation
requirement.
G
Once
a
person
completes
their
training
program
successfully
completes
their
training
program
and
completes
their
competency
test.
They
are
then
authorized
to
perform
testing
in
the
various
disciplines
that
we
provide.
Like
I
said,
we
are
part
of
the
forensic
division
in
addition
to
the
crime
lab
in
the
forensic
division.
C
D
G
G
That
would
usually
leave
us
with
about
72
000
left
for
supplies,
training
in
overtime.
We
don't
generally
spend
a
lot
of
money
on
overtime,
but
we
have
you
know
the
way
the
grants
work.
We
create
that
line
in
case
we
do
need
to
devote
some
resources
to
it,
but
most
of
the
time
we're
spending
it
on
personnel,
assuming
that
the
positions
are
filled,
and
in
this
case
both
positions
are
filled.
G
A
A
Very
good,
thank
you
kevin.
I
was
always
good
to
see
you.
We
have
two
remaining
darker
numbers.
I
don't
think
that
involves
you
correct,
so
you're
free
to
go
and
do
what
you
do
best,
which
is
run
the
crime
lab
and
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
do
on
behalf
of
our
city,
helping
solve
something
hoping
so
and
helping
solve
crimes.
A
A
A
B
B
So
when
someone
when
a
clinician
or
a
doctor
says
someone
might
pose
a
danger
to
themselves
or
to
others
due
to
their
mental
health,
they
can
fill
out
a
section
12,
where
the
bpd
has
been
asked
to
bring
this
person
to
an
emergency
room,
to
have
an
emergency
psych
evaluation,
where,
depending
on
what
the
fight,
how
the
psychic
valve
goes,
they
could
be
admitted
for
up
to.
I
believe,
three
days
and
up
until
july
of
last
year,
we
really
didn't
keep
track
of
these
I
mean.
B
Can
you
imagine,
as
you
can
imagine,
there's
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
potential
for
escalation.
I
mean
there
are
people
who
are
already
potentially
at
an
elevated
risk
of
harm
to
self
or
others.
That's
the
whole
point
and
now
you're
bringing
officers
into
the
scene
to
begin
with,
and
so
starting
in
july.
2021.
B
They
are
following
up
with
our
best
partners
to
see
what
their
history
is
like
in
terms
of
mental
health
background
and
the
the
three-hour
student
will
come
up
with
a
plan
for
the
best
way
to
execute
the
section
12.
What
is
the
safest
way
to
do
it
and
now
they're
tracking
them,
and,
as
you
can
imagine,
this
is
all
very
data-heavy.
B
So,
for
the
reason
for
this
grant
is
that
currently,
basically
one
of
the
sou
officers-
and
there
are
only
eight-
I
believe-
has
been
having
to
spend
a
lot
of
his
time
doing
the
the
intake
for
these
tracking
them
in
a
database.
Helping
with
you
know,
the
officers
take
turns
doing
the
assessments,
but
the
purpose
of
this
grant
is
to
get
a
section
12
coordinator,
which
is
a
much
needed
role
so
that
civilians
can
do
what
civilians
do
and
the
officers
can
do
what
often
do
best.
So
what
will
this
will
be?
B
Is
a
master's
level
clinician
who
will
be
housed
with
the
street
outreach
unit.
Who
speaks
the
language
of
section
12?
Who
speaks
the
language
of
mental
health,
but
they'll
be
housed
with
the
street
outreach
unit,
so
they
can
then
do
that
intake
enter
the
data
assist
with
the
you
know.
The
assessment
call
the
doctor
and
actually
understand
what
the
doctor
is
saying
as
to
why
the
section
12
was
written
and
help
the
sou
kind
of
formulate
a
plan.
B
B
Because
again,
they
only
have
eight
officers,
section
12
come
in
24
hours
a
day,
so
you
know
kind
of
overseeing
these
and
being
on
call
for
them
is
a
really
important
role,
but
also
you
know,
we
care
a
lot
about
evaluation,
so
we're
establishing
a
subcontract
with
dr
melissa
moravido
of
umass
lowell
will
help
us
evaluate
you
know
the
difference
in
the
violence,
just
the
process
evaluation.
But
what
difference
does
it
make?
What
are
the
outcomes?
How
are
the
section
12
differing
when
we
go
through
this
process?
B
We
also
think
it's
really
important
with
all
the
changes
that
are
going
on
with
our
mental
health
response,
that
we
want
to
do
an
educational
campaign
where
we'll
have
translators
and
really
work
with
kind
of
informing
keeping
the
public
informed
about
this
new
rule,
but
everything
else
that
the
bpd
is
doing
as
well.
We
really
are
trying
to
reduce
escalation,
reduce
arm.
B
You
know
we're
doing
our
best
to
really
only
be
there
when
we
need
to
be
there
and
to
ensure
that
the
officers
are
trained
properly
and
really
using
the
best
tools
in
their
tool
belt
and
maximizing
our
partnership
with
the
boston
emergency
services
team.
So
this
grant's
gonna
go
a
long
way
towards
helping
the
sou
do
their
job
more
efficiently,
because
there's
a
lot
on
their
shoulders.
These
days.
A
And
then,
given
that
importance,
I'd
like
to
maybe
just
ask
a
couple
questions
here
and
offer
my
colleagues
the
same
just
given
the
importance
of
the
program,
absolutely
the
clinicians.
So
will
they
be
on
site
so
obviously
section
12,
it's
a
24
7
process.
So
I
assume
it's
kind
of
like
a
it's
a
24
hour.
So
there's
like
four
in
a
24-hour
span.
Are
they
doing
eight
out?
You
know
doing
six
hour,
eight
hour
shifts.
How
is
that
working?
A
So
if
we're
going
to
sort
of
eliminate
that
sort
of
portion
of
it,
I
really
would
like
to
see
these
clinicians
to
be
in
the
city
two
hands
on
the
wheel.
But
if
we
have
to
track
a
clinician,
that's
living
out
in
western
mass
or
he's
gonna
come
in
from
hyannis
or
out
from
lowell,
probably
not
gonna
work.
Really.
A
I
can
tell
you:
we've
tried
that
before
when
I
was
an
assistant
dean,
it
didn't
work
and,
and
then
it
just
goes
back
to
sort
of
the
911
system,
which
is,
I
think,
we're
trying
to
move
away
from
we're
trying
to
provide.
You
know
critical
specialized
services
for
these
types
of
situations
and
calls
that
alleviate.
A
I
think
the
need
for
a
police
response
is
more
of
a
public
health
response,
but
I
cannot
emphasize
enough
that
these
clinicians
need
to
be
present.
They
need
to
be
close
to
boston
based
on
past
practice,
where
we
had
clinicians
that
were
from
all
over
the
state
and
they
weren't
driving
in
that's
best.
You
know
best
practices
up
yeah.
What
time
is
it
saturday?
It's
two
o'clock
in
the
afternoon?
You
know
what
I'm
gonna
call
it
in.
A
A
I'd
like
to
know
whether
or
not
these
clinicians
are
going
to
be
hands-on
and
they're
going
to
be
right
in
the
middle
of
it
and
they're
going
to
be
answering
the
phone
calls
they're
going
to
get
there
to
the
scene
or
to
that
location
or
they're
going
to
be
dialing
these
things
in.
If
not,
it's
going
to
be
all
sizzling,
no
state.
B
So
what
you're
referring
to
are
our
corresponding
clinicians?
We
have
currently
eight
out
in
the
districts
plus
two
supervisors-
we'll
actually
have
more
total
than
that,
but
we've
recently
hired
eight
new
ones
and
two
new
supervisors,
but
we
now
have
pretty
much
full
coverage
of
at
least
one
shift
out
in
the
districts
where
we
have
corresponding
clinicians,
who
are
in
the
city
in
the
stations
riding
with
officers
and
going
to
scenes,
and
they
are
assisting
with
section
12's
on
scene.
B
They,
you
know,
the
bpd
is
now
writing
a
lot
more
of
our
own
section
12s,
because
the
clinicians
have
been
really
great
in
helping
us
use
that
tool
which
we've
always
had,
but
officers
really
weren't
comfortable
or
familiar
with
it
up
until
we
started
really
having
this
partnership.
So
we,
I
completely
agree
with
you
and
we
have
now
a
whole
cadre
of
clinicians
out
in
the
field
who
are
there
in
person?
They
were
over
the
phone
more
during
when
coveted
without
its
height,
but
they
are
out
there
in
the
districts.
B
B
I
want
to
call
them
administrative,
but
that's
really
like
they're
going
to
be
helping
with
the
data
and
the
phone
calls
and
the
content
that
they
you
know,
and
they
can
do
follow-up
phone
calls,
but
I
think,
as
far
as
like,
but
if
anything
they'll
probably
be
orchestrating
those
co-responders
who
are
out
in
the
districts
to
you
know,
this
person
needs
to
follow
up.
You
should
go
because
they'll
already
have
pre-existing
relationships
with
those
people
as
well.
It's
always
a
lot
of
repeat
fires,
but
this
is
a
really
unique
role.
B
That's
kind
of
going
to
span
like
we'll
be
able
to
access.
You
know.
Sieges
will
be
able
to
access
best
medical
records,
assuming
it's
the
desk
clinician
but
they're,
going
to
really
go
speak
that
language
and
help
us
get
more
officers
who
do
this
work
out
on
the
field
unless
we've
been
sitting
at
a
computer
all
day,
but
this
they
will
definitely
obviously
work
extremely
closely
with
our
district
correspondents
to
be
a
part
of
our
overall
program.
A
D
B
So
it's
not
really
a
tracking
pro,
so
you
know
we
when
a
section
12,
what
we're
tracking
is
when
section
12
get
received.
So
when
you
know
what
will
happen
as
a
clinician
or
a
doctor,
will
fax
oftentimes,
fax,
a
copy
of
a
section
12
to
the
districts
and
in
the
past
that
the
district
would
receive
it
in
their
fax
machine
when
they
saw
it,
they
would
just
kind
of
go
out
and
just
you
know,
they're
usually
only
effective
for
24
hours.
You
know
they're
only
asking
for
24
hours
and
they
would
just.
G
B
Out
and
do
it
but
not
track
it,
you
know
the
only
way
to
really
look
at
that
data
is
to
do
is
to
hope
that
the
officer
mentioned
it
in
their
incident
report
narrative.
So
we've
done
narrative
searches
of
looking
for
the
word
section,
12
or
scc12,
but
there's
no
way
to
really
track
it.
So
what
we're
tracking
now
is
the
receipt
of
those
section
12.?
What
are
they
coming
in?
You
know
we
have
a
database
now
just
like
when
was
it
received?
What
was
the
response?
B
Who
was
on
scene
in
the
really
important
piece
that
was
previously
missing?
Is
that
we'll
also
say,
okay
person
not
located
needs
follow-up,
and
that,
and
now
it
activates
the
whole
system
of
okay.
We
need
to
follow
up
with
this
person,
even
if
the
section
12
is
no
longer
active,
we
need
to
make
sure
this
person's
okay.
So
it's
really
just
it's
not
tracking
a
person
is
tracking
a
section
12,
it's
a
piece
of
paper,
but
it's
keeping
track
of
what
happened.
What
was
found
in
the
assessment?
F
F
A
B
Thing
and
this
one's
pretty
straightforward-
we
get
this
every
year.
It's
so
currently.
The
bpd,
I
believe,
has
five
civilian
domestic
violence
advocates.
These
are
advocates,
who
are
civilians,
who
are
out
in
the
district
stations
who
you
know
when?
Obviously,
when
there
are
domestic
violence
incidents
we
encounter
victims
or
victims
can
just
come
to
the
station,
but
having
someone
who's,
not
a
uniformed
officer
who
can
help
provide
services
and
referrals
and
help
with
safety
planning
and
housing.
B
These
advocates
cannot
speak
highly
enough
to
the
work
that
they
do,
and
so
this
is
a
grant
that
has
always
supported
one
of
our
advocates,
maria
perry.
She
covers
either
of
jamaica,
plain
charlestown
and
east
boston,
she's
bilingual,
and
she
does
a
fantastic
job.
So
this
grant
supports
her.
But
in
addition-
and
this
is
a
huge
lifesaver
for
the
last
couple
years-
it
also
provides
overtime
because
again
we
only
have
those
five
dv
advocates.
So
now
we
can
cover.
You
know
we
can
have
overtime
for
advocates
to
cover
other.
D
B
Yeah,
if
you
want
so
we
have,
let's
see,
we've
got
maria
perry
who's,
the
one
that
this
grant
covers
in
jamaica,
plain,
east
boston
and
charlestown.
We've
got
another
full-time
db
advocate
in
dorchester
another
one
who
covers
west
roxbury,
roslindale,
austin,
brighton
and
hyde
park,
another
one
that
covers
roxbury
and
another
one
that
covers
mattapan
yep.
F
Thank
you
chair,
and
so
I
am,
and
I
think
that
you've
already
answered
this
question,
but
I'm
sharing
similar
concerns
around
barriers
to
reporting
for
victims
and
the
location
of
the
civilian
domestic
violence
advocate,
and
it's
from
what
you
just
shared.
It
sounds
like
they
are
within
the
department,
like
the
stations
in
each
of
the
neighborhoods.
Is
that
correct.
B
They
are
yeah,
I
mean,
and
I
I
I
fully
agree
with
you.
Obviously,
when
there's
a
domestic
violence
incident,
there's
going
to
be
police
involvement
and
I
think,
having
someone
who
is
not
a
police
officer
to
help
and
help
them
through
the
process.
That's
not
to
say
that
takes
the
place
of
so
many
other
services.
That
would
be
better
served
by
someone.
B
Who's
got
zero
affiliation
with
the
police,
and
we
totally
get
that
and
we're
very
fortunate
to
have
amazing
partnerships
with
the
agencies
and
different
cultural
languages
throughout
the
city,
and
we
rely
on
those
partnerships
very
heavily,
but
I
think
for
the
the
necessary
involvement
of
the
police
to
have
advocates
who
can
help
with
that
process.
Just
makes
that
necessary
process
go
much
better
and
and
can
do
a
lot
of
services
at
least
simply
cannot.
So
it's
just
a
way
in.
A
B
A
A
Well,
I
appreciate
your
efforts,
obviously
on
these
dockets
and
giving
us
the
information
that
we
need,
and
so
with
respect
to
all
the
documents
just
brought
my
attention
because
of
president's
holiday.
We
don't
meet
next
wednesday,
so
I
misspoke
saying
that
we'll
get
them
for
next
wednesday.
It'll
have
to
be
the
wednesday
after,
but
we'll
turn
around
favorable
committee
reports
for
a
council
vote
at
our
next
council
meeting,
which
will
be
a
week
from
this
coming
wednesday.