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Docket #0738 - Hearing regarding biannual update of the Boston Planning & Development Agency Urban Renewal Program
A
A
Councils
hearing
in
the
Committee
on
planning
development
and
transportation
on
docket
number
zero,
seven,
three
six,
my
name
is
Michele
Wu
and
I'm,
chair
of
the
committee
I'm
joined
by
my
colleagues,
councillor
Edie
fling
and
councillor
Frank
Baker,
as
well
as
colleagues
from
the
BPD
a
who
will
be
giving
a
presentation
so
just
to
remind
everyone.
This
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
broadcast
live
on
channels,
Comcast,
eight
RCN,
eighty
to
Verizon,
1964
and
streaming
on
the
city
of
Boston
website.
B
A
To
make
sure
that
we
at
least
get
to
offer
the
opportunity
to
testify
to
some
people
before
diving
into
the
presentations
in
case
people
have
scheduling
constraints
so
we'll
get
this
sheet
to
see
who's
already
on
there.
The
full
docket
just
for
the
record,
is
docket
0,
7
3
6
a
hearing
order
regarding
the
City
Council's
biannual
urban
renewal.
Progress
updates,
I'm,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
my
colleagues.
First
to
give
any
opening
statements,
then
I
will
offer
the
opportunity
for
the
three
people
who
have
signed
up
at
the
beginning
to
give
their
testimonies.
C
C
How
are
you
going
to
protect
residents
that
desperately
need
housing,
low-income
families,
our
seniors,
as
I
mentioned?
You
know,
immigrant
communities,
that's
what
I'm
going
to
be
looking
forward
to
hearing
from
you
on
on
your
commitment
to
affordable
housing
for
low-income
families,
Thank
You,
Council,
whoa,
Thank,.
A
Again,
thank
you
to
the
VP
day
for
your
patience.
I
want
to
call
and
offer
the
opportunity
for
Diane
Valley
Johanna
Hines
in
Ford
Cavallari
to
testify.
You
could
come
to
either
of
these
public
testimony
microphones
and
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
and
if
you
could
keep
your
testimony
to
two
minutes,
we
would
very
much
appreciate
it.
D
D
I
just
want
to
write
a
read,
a
letter
that
I've
presented
to
the
council,
because
Charlestown
is
really
affected
by
urban
renewal,
and
we
would
like
to
present
you
some
of
the
thoughts
that
we're
working
with
I
have
submitted
them.
Online
I
have
16
copies.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
for
Charlestown
residents
to
inform
the
City
Council.
D
The
Charlestown
community
is
working
in
good
faith,
organizing
to
create
an
informed
community
to
participate
with
the
Braa
at
meetings
to
create
the
best
possible
responsible
growth
and
development.
While
we
preserve
and
enhance
our
vibrant
social
fabric
and
embrace
the
future
challenges
of
Charlestown.
While
we
maintain
sensitivity
to
our
past,
the
Charlestown
community
has
met
with
the
BR,
a
representative
Joyce
Jason
Ruggiero
two
times
in
what
the
VRA
advertised
as
chats
with
the
planner
on
August
19th
and
September
17th.
D
At
each
meeting,
the
community
attendance
exceeded
the
seating
capacity
in
the
room
listed
below
are
topics
that
were
discussed
with
the
VRA
at
these
Charlestown
community
meetings
providing
relevant
feedback
which
will
serve
as
guidelines
for
a
collaborative
and
productive
planning
process.
At
the
meetings,
we'd
like
open,
publicize
public
meetings
at
a
centrally
located
community
space
to
accommodate
over
50
people
with
a
sound
system
at
the
time
of
day
that
our
standard
community
meetings
meet,
which
is
7
to
9
p.m.
D
on
a
weekday
allowing
the
most
amount
of
residents
to
attend
meetings
that
are
advertised
or
not
to
be
moved
arbitrarily.
Unless
there
is
a
community
consensus
or
an
emergency
which
warrants
a
move,
as
in
when
Fanueil
Hall
was
found
to
be
too
small
for
the
Patriots,
they
moved
their
meeting
to
Old
South
Church,
the
BR.
A
took
copious
notes
on
whiteboards
that
were
used
as
tabletops.
We
request.
Whiteboards
are
made
visible
from
the
audience
as
they
are
in
design
to
enhance
our
discussions.
D
The
BR,
a
to
copious
notes
in
the
BR
a
agreed
to
provide
the
community
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
within
a
reasonable
time
frame,
which
we
hope
will
be
less
than
one
wink.
If
a
planner
is
advertised
to
be
in
attendance,
a
br,
a
planner
should
attend
for
the
entire
meeting
and
not
arrive
late
or
be
in
an
off-site
location.
D
We
seek
transparency
and
we
hope
the
PRA
will
continue
with
their
agreements
to
update
the
BR,
a
Charlestown
website
with
meaning
and
date/time,
so
our
community
will
know
when
they
are
and
agreed
to
post
the
meeting
minutes
after
they
distribute
them.
We'd
like
them
to
post
relevant
links
or
documents
pertaining
to
our
meetings
and
continue
to
advertise
in
our
local
newspaper,
the
Charlestown
Patriot
bridge.
We
look
forward
to
support
the
support
of
the
City
Council
and
your
committee
to
engage
in
this
important
process
with
the
Charlestown
residence.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here.
E
See
if
this
microphone
works
great
hi
there
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
Ford
Cavallari
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
Alliance
of
downtown
civic
organizations,
which
represents
the
nine
largest
downtown
organizations
in
Boston.
We
tend
to
be.
Our
footprint
tends
to
align
pretty
well
with
the
urban
renewal
zones
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
at
the
beginning
of
this
process.
That
I
want
to
remember.
E
They
don't
align
for
the
most
part
with
where
a
lot
of
the
development
is
happening
now
in
in
Boston,
whether
it
be
in
Dorchester
or
whether
it
be
in
Alston,
whether
it
be
in
East,
Boston,
Suffolk,
Downs
redevelopment.
None
of
this
is
in
urban
renewal
zones,
so
one
of
the
hopes
of
all
of
our
groups
was
that
we
would
have
serious
discussions
about
sunsetting.
E
Necessarily
we
like
to
be
are
a
to
do
the
big
things
Brian
golden
and
his
leadership
of
the
VRA
has
been
terrific.
We
think
we
know
that
there's
a
renewed
focus
in
the
in
the
BR,
a
on
a
water
dam
system,
amsterdam
like
system
that
they
want
to
renew
study
on
I,
think
that's
absolutely
the
kind
of
big
picture
thing
the
VRA
should
be
working
on,
but
with
urban
renewal
zones
continuing
to
kick
along,
we
have
an
overlay
system
for
all
zoning.
We
have
different
systems
for
small,
medium
and
large
development.
E
We
have
unnecessary
layers
of
bureaucracy
that
make
even
the
most
seasoned
bureaucrat
not
know
where
to
go,
to
get
a
zoning
variance
and
unfortunately,
as
we've
seen
in
the
CBA,
that
kind
of
system
can
be
gamed
sometimes
so.
I
would
just
urge
us
to
take
advantage
of
the
opportunity
to
use
urban
renewal,
Sudz
Sun,
setting
as
an
opportunity
for
simplification
of
the
entire
zoning
system,
and,
let's
not
forget
that
three
years
ago
we
talked
about
Sun
setting
these
zones
and
I'm
hoping
when
we
hear
the
presentation
we're
gonna
hear
at
least
half.
E
A
F
G
F
Good
morning,
chairman
Liu
and
members
of
the
council,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
here
today.
My
name
is
Christopher
Breen
urban
renewal
manager
at
the
Boston
planning
and
development
agency
joining
me
today
are
Deven
quark,
director
of
real
estate
and
Renee
LaFave,
our
general
counsel.
We
are
here
to
provide
a
summary
about
our
recent
proposal
to
DHC
DHCD
regarding
14
of
the
remaining
16
urban
renewal
areas.
We
have
made
the
document
available
for
download
to
the
public
on
our
vernal
web
page.
F
So
I
just
wanted
to
start
off
with
the
title
page,
taking
a
quick
look
at
the
title
page,
because
a
lot
of
us
here
might
not
recognize
it.
Maybe
some
of
my
friends
in
the
back
may
or
may
not
that's
actually
a
picture
of
Charlestown
where
I
grew
up:
pre
Urban
Renewal,
that
is
at
the
corner
of
Oak
Street
in
Maine,
with
the
elevated
train
above
it
at
the
time
it's
unrecognizable
today
and
currently
houses,
affordable,
elderly
senior
homes
at
the
general
Warren.
F
The
next
slide
to
shows
a
picture
of
the
proposal
to
DHCD
regarding
our
fourteen
over
in
no
plan
areas,
it
is
a
road
map
of
those
fourteen.
It's
a
two
hundred
and
forty
nine
page
document
with
all
materials,
sign-in
sheets
and
presentations
included.
Those
are
the
presentations.
I
went
out
into
the
community
and
presented
available
they're
all
available
on
our
web
page
for
download
to
the
public,
and
anyone
can
read
through
them
and
reach
out
to
me
with
any
questions
that
phase
one
included
six
urban
areas,
five
of
which
are
up
for
renewal
in
2022.
F
They
include
North,
Station,
school
Franklin,
Park,
Plaza,
Brunswick,
King,
Boylston,
Essex
and
Kittredge
square
in
each
of
the
community
meetings.
The
urban
agendas
surrounding
up
surrounded
five
topic
areas,
the
first
of
which
was
the
urban
rural
background,
which
sort
of
did
a
and
a
large
look
down
at
the
history
of
urban
renewal,
talking
about
the
key
terms
and
tools
and
powers
behind
our
renewal
and
then
went
into
sort
of
plant
specific
goals
for
each
server
in
Nutley
area.
F
So
we
looked
at
the
big
picture
in
the
small
picture
for
each
urban
area
in
which
we
were
hosting
the
meeting.
The
second
part
was
the
urban
or
action
plan
we
talked
about
where
we
are
in
terms
of
our
transparency
actions.
Creation
of
our
website,
adjustments
to
our
is
only
viewer
to
include
Bernal
parcels
and
just
our
just
our
actions
with
the
community
in
terms
of
a
30-day
minor,
mod
and
major
mod
notifications
to
DHCD
and
the
City
Council,
the
third
section
we
talked
about
our
land.
F
We
basically
just
went
through
each
area
each
parcel
that
we
at
one
point
owned
in
dispensed
of
and
what
that
Lda
was
and
what
that
Lda
means
to
the
community.
The
fourth
section
was
an
analysis
and
inventory
of
the
VPD
I
owned
the
land
in
that
area.
Now
we
went
through
each
parcel
that
we
own.
We
took
comments
on
how
to
meet
community
goals.
F
All
those
powerpoints
are
also
available
online.
On
our
web
page,
the
first
area
I
went
out
to
is
North
Station
North
Station
is
not
part
of
the
14
urban
rural
areas
that
are
up
for
extension
in
2022.
Our
North
Station
has
an
expiration
date
of
July,
16th
and
2020.
We
are
not
proposing
any
further
extension
of
that
in
the
photo
you
see
above
it's
a
picture
of
the
hotel,
Madison
and
the
elevated
North
Station
rail
way.
F
Above
that's
currently
the
home
of
the
federal
building
on
the
corner
of
low-mass
new
way
for
the
North
Station
urban,
no
community
process,
we
hosted
a
public
meeting
on
June
18
2019
that
was
advertised
in
the
Boston
Guardian
to
post-gazette
in
the
North
End.
In
the
regional
review,
it
was
also
on
our
BPD,
a
calendar
and
urban
no
mailing
list,
and
it
was
also
on
social
media
and
community
groups
that
we
connected
with
fiha
that
an
office
of
neighborhood
services
in
the
picture
to
your
right
is
a
photo
of
the
elevated
train
on
causeway
street.
F
The
North
Station
urban
old
goals,
we
talked
about
a
previous
City
Council
hearing,
but
I'll
just
briefly
go
over
them.
They
centered
around,
essentially
the
removal
of
the
elevated
train
potential
building
of
the
new
Sports
Arena
and
the
Federal
Building
itself,
where
the
were
the
main
goals
of
that
plan.
The
construction
of
the
Federal
Building
this.
A
F
F
F
The
school
Franklin
urban
renewal
community
meeting
was
hosted
on
June
19
2019.
It
was
advertised
in
the
Boston
Guardian,
as
well
as
on
the
Peabody,
a
calendar
and
urban
or
mailing
lists.
It
was
posted
on
social
media
and
community
groups,
along
with
outreach
from
the
office
of
Neighborhood
Services.
F
Quite
I'm
gonna
quickly
go
over
the
goals
of
the
school
Franklin
original
area,
which
centered
mostly
around
the
removal
of
deteriorated
substandard,
substandard
and
dilapidated
buildings
and
structures
which
prevented
investment.
The
main
area
also
wanted
to
encourage
increased
acceptance
of
mass
transit
within
the
area.
F
Here's
a
map
of
the
properties
in
blue
with
lDA's
and
the
properties
in
red
that
we
still
currently
own
one
of
those
properties
in
red
is
Old.
City,
Hall,
Old,
City
Hall,
has
recently
signed
a
lease
that
gives
us
regular
regulatory
control
into
the
foreseeable
future.
The
other
one
is
the
Irish
Famine
Memorial,
which
also
has
a
lease
signed
on
it
from
the
Irish
Famine
memorial
group.
F
We
took
a
look
at
the
properties
that
we
own
and
we
basically
believe
that
it
sort
of
matched
what
the
chimney
needs
were
in
the
area
and
we
didn't
foresee
any
future
changes
to
those
two
properties.
So
our
recommendation
at
that
time
was
just
sunset:
the
school
Franklin,
the
central
business
district
in
2022
next
up
is
Park
Plaza.
F
For
the
Park
Plaza
urban
renewal
community
meeting,
it
was
held
on
June
24th
2019
at
the
Revere
hotel.
It
was
advertised
in
the
Boston
Guardian
in
the
Boston
Sun.
It
was
also
on
the
BPD,
a
calendar
and
over
no
mailing
list,
and
it
was
also
put
out
on
social
media
and
I
contacted
community
groups
in
the
area
of
the
assistance
from
the
office
of
Neighborhood
Services.
F
F
Next
up,
we
have
a
top-down
view
on
the
areas
in
blue:
have
land
disposition
agreements
on
them
in
Park,
Plaza
the
land
in
red
is
the
parcel
that
we
own
known
as
China
trade
here
is
an
up-close
look
at
China
tree
China.
Trade
is
a
success
story
with
it,
with
its
back
history
of
it
formerly
being
a
foreclosed
building,
and
it's
now
running
at
a
pretty
high
rate
of
90
plus
percent
occupancy,
in
which
a
lot
of
the
businesses
in
there
are
low-income
or
community
needs
that
might
not
otherwise
be
able
to
afford
the
rent.
F
F
I
will
add
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
community
feedback
on
Park.
Plaza
was
supportive
of
allowing
for
that
area
to
be
sunset,
but
there
were
some
people
that
felt
it
was
important
to
sort
of
keep
some
of
it
that
surrounded
the
China
trade
building,
because
there
were
some
areas
that
they
felt
were
blighted,
I
believe
on
the
eastern
side
of
the
Park
Plaza
Bernal
map
that
could
you
know,
have
been
kept,
but
given
the
nature
of
the
only
building
that
we
own
in
that
area
is
the
China
trade
building
and
we
control
it.
F
F
All
righty
next
up
is
the
Brunswick
king.
At
urban
renewal
we
held
a
convenient
community
meeting
out
there
on
June
25th
2019
at
the
Grove
Hall
community
center.
That
was
advertised
in
the
Bay
State
banner.
It
was
also
placed
on
the
BPD,
a
calendar
and
urban
no
mailing
list.
We
also
reached
out
via
social
media
and
community
groups
in
the
area
via
the
office
of
Neighborhood
Services,
the
Brunswick
in
goals.
We
went
over
in
detail
in
the
community,
meaning
briefly.
F
They
essentially
surround
development
of
parks
and
open
space
to
support
existing
and
proposed
residential
uses.
They
senator
on
also
providing
for
public
facilities
and
the
need
of
expansion.
There's
a
lot
of
schools
out
in
that
area,
and
those
were
the
needs
at
the
time
here.
Right
we
have
the
Brunswick
king
or
no
plan
area
and
blue
are
the
parcels
that
have
land
disposition
agreements
on
them
to
your
right
and
red
are
the
process
that
we
still
currently
own,
which
consists
of
about
seven
parcels.
F
The
first
group
of
parcels
that
we
own
are
known
as
parcel
p2.
It's
there
at
the
right
next
to
or
abut
ceylon
Park.
A
lot
of
the
community
felt
like
it
makes
made
perfect
sense
and
as
do
we
to
transfer
them
to
the
parks
department,
so
that
they
can
be
kept
as
open
space
and
green
space
for
the
community
going
forward
and
we're
in
the
process
of
doing
that,
we're
very
close
to
officially
transferring
and
turning
those
parcels
over
to
the
parks
department.
F
We
also
own
two
properties
on
interval,
Street
and
interval
terrorists,
seen
in
the
slides
above
there
in
red,
the
square
parcel
behind
I,
think
it's
101,
Intervale
Street.
We
are
in
negotiations
to
transfer
that
as
an
a
butter
parcel
to
the
homeowner
so
that
he
can
allow
for
parking
for
his
car
to
get
it
off
street.
F
F
The
main
two
parcels
here
in
Brunswick
King
are
on
firm,
baller,
street
27
and
29
as
seen
in
red
and
then
also
seen
in
the
Google
photo
with
the
blue
arrow
pointing
to
them.
There
was
a
community
advocate
there
that
was
very
passionate
about
the
building
potential
housing
on
those
sites,
whether
they're,
single
or
duplex
families.
F
He
didn't
feel
that
the
area
should
be
sunsetted
until
that
those
particular
parcels
were
properly
vetted
via
the
community
and
the
positive
outcomes
that
the
community
desired
were
ready
to
move
forward
via
an
RFP.
So
we're
working
with
him
and
I'm
working
with
Devin's
team
in
real
estate
to
put
out
an
RFP
for
those
parcels
and
we
really
hope
for
a
positive
outcome.
F
F
Boylston
Essex,
the
meeting
was
held
on
July
15th
and
2019
at
the
Revere
Hotel
I
was
advertised
in
the
Boston
bulletin.
The
Boston
Guardian
in
the
Boston
Sun
I
was
in
the
BPD
a
calendar
in
the
urban
Oh
mailing
lists
as
well.
It
was
also
on
Twitter
and
other
forms
of
social
media
and
I
also
contacted
a
community
via
the
office
of
neighborhood
services.
To
your
right,
you'll
see
a
photo
of
Commonwealth
Center.
It
was
what
was
formerly
called
Commonwealth
Center.
F
F
That
was
essentially
why
we
took
the
area
to
really
sort
of
push
public
transportation
into
that
area,
and
that
call
seems
to
be
completed
right,
you'll,
see
and
map
of
the
area
top
down
view
and
blue
is
the
building
that
has
an
Lda
on
it,
and
the
black
line
consists
of
the
actual
urban
renewal
area
that
was
used
to
realign
the
street.
We
don't
own
any
property
in
the
area.
F
F
For
in
terms
of
the
kitchen
square
renewal
community
meeting,
the
community
meeting
was
held,
July
16
2019
at
Roxbury,
Community
College.
It
was
advertised
in
the
Baystate
banner,
as
well
as
the
normal
forms,
the
VPD
a
calendar,
the
urban
old
mailing
list,
social
media
and
community
groups,
as
well
as
the
office
of
neighborhood
services
to
right
you'll,
see
some
more
boarded
up.
It's
along
the
windward
street
from
the
early
1970s.
F
Again.
This
is
a
top-down
view
of
what
we've
accomplished
so
far
in
Kittredge
and
blue
are
the
parcels
that
we've
disposed
of
with
land
disposition
agreements
currently
still
on
them
in
red
are
the
pros
that
we
still
own
and
we're
actively
trying
to
transfer
or
dispose
them
just
to
go
over.
Those
parcels
like
we
did
in
the
community,
the
first
of
which
is
parcel
34
peak.
It's
also
known
as
25
Linwood.
F
Next
up
are
the
parcels
at
the
rear
of
115
and
121
Cedar
Street
they
about
the
Cedar
Street
Gardens
communities.
Some
we
own
they're,
basically
the
entrance
into
those
Gardens.
We
would
love
to
transfer
them
on
to
a
couple
of
the
garden
communities
who
have
reached
out
and
who
we
are
in
contact
with,
so
that
they
can
forever
be
open
space
and
community
gardens
for
the
good
of
the
neighborhood,
which
is
seem
to
be
what
they
wanted.
F
Next
up,
we
have
parcel
a1,
which
is
23
Highland
Street,
it's
the
one
to
the
right
circled
and
also
there's
a
photo
of
it
to
the
right
you've
taken
a
look
at
it.
It
is
a
potential
housing
site,
but
some
in
the
neighborhood
would
like
to
keep
it
an
open
space
site
or
potentially
a
place
for
parking.
There
will
have
to
be
an
RFP
for
this
one
for
it
to
go
out.
F
The
next
one
is
sorry
21,
Morley
Street
to
the
left.
It's
the
one
higher
up
above
the
street.
There's
a
photo
of
it
to
your
right.
It's
a
small
sliver
parcel.
It
could
be
used
as
a
side
yard
or
some
sort
of
open
space
I
suppose
you
could
also
be
a
housing
site
to
likely
need
variances,
but
the
community
seems
like
they
want
that
to
be
remain
and
open
space,
but
you
know
we're
in
active
conversations
and,
of
course,
we're
gonna
meet
community
needs
and
goals
when
it
comes
to
that.
F
F
F
F
We
are
moving
forward
the
BPD,
a
owned
inventory
that
I'm
showing
out
in
the
community
when
I
go
to
each
one
I'm
explaining
hey.
This
is
what
we
own
and
what
would
you
guys
like
us
to
do
with
it?
We
are
also
reviewing
boundaries
of
the
existing
plans
via
that
same
community
process.
We
are
exploring
the
creation
of
new
urban
renewal
plans
via
that
same
community
process.
F
I
think
I
forgot
to
mention
that
when
I
was
at
the
Boylston
Essex
meeting,
some
of
those
people
wanted
me
to
keep
the
urban
renewal
area
alive
because
they
didn't.
They
didn't
want
to
lose
the
tools
or
the
protections
so
that
the
LDA
had
in
place
and
they
wanted
to
potentially
expand
that
particular
terminal
area,
because
if
it's
only
one
building
and
because
the
goals
are
complete,
I
suggested
to
allow
it
to
sunset.
F
But
I
did
promise
them
that
I
would
come
out
to
the
Boston
Essex
Washington
sort
of
central
business
district
area
and
with
with
planners
and
with
Devon's
team
and
see
what
it
would
be
like
or
what
it
would
take
to
do.
A
new
urban
oral
plan
for
that
area,
if
those
community
groups
and
those
in
those
individuals
wanted
us
to
do
that.
F
We're
content
we're
continuing
to
review
existing
procedures
for
disposition
in
a
manner
that
reflects
community
goals
and
priorities.
I've
been
a
part
of
that
I've
been
out
there
in
the
community
hosting
those
meetings.
When
I'm
not
doing
the
urban.
No
larger
meetings,
we've
updated.
The
PPTA
zoning
viewer
to
include
Emeril
parcels.
That's
now
live
it's
a
layer
on
the
zoning
viewer
that
you
can
click
on
and
see.
My
parcel
may
have
an
Lda
on
it
and
we're
continuing
to
provide
updates
on
progress
as
we
are
here
again.
C
F
C
C
C
C
C
F
The
people
in
the
room
that
night
any
was
the
the
members
felt
that
if
it
wasn't
hurting
them-
and
these
were
goals
too-
or
tools
to
improve
development-
you
know
that
area
they
felt
was
slightly
blighted
and
they
were
asking
me
like
well.
Why
can't
you
just
expand
the
area
to
use
these
tools
of
development
to
help
us?
You
know
grow
here
a
little
bit
better
than
than
we
have
and
I
didn't
have
an
answer
for
that.
Why
I
couldn't
do
that?
F
So
my
answer
was:
you
know
investigate
with
the
planner
going
out
there
and
seeing
what
it
would
be
like
to
expand
or
do
a
new
terminal
area
for
the
areas
that
they
were
talking
about.
They
were
talking
about
Boston,
Street,
Essex,
Street,
and
some
of
the
things
that
they
found
were
not
suitable
for
the
area.
I.
C
F
F
F
C
Was
at
a
hearing,
I
was
disappointed.
I
was
at
a
hearing
that
the
bpb
PDA
put
on
and
they
had
a
Mandarin
translator
a
while
back,
maybe
six
months
ago
in
the
majority
of
the
people
in
the
room
was
speaking.
Cantonese
and
and
I
was
disappointed.
You
know
and
I
called
the
B
PDA
after,
but
there's
a
huge
difference
for
the
for
the
residents
when
you,
when
you
go
to
the
Chinese
community,
could
could
you
let
my
office
know
before
so?
My
office
and
myself
can
be
engaged.
C
F
C
G
Just
from
a
different
area,
the
BPD
I
just
want
to
agree
with
you
and
say
that
we
were
certainly
committed
to
providing
is
the
universal
language
access
as
possible,
and
sometimes
we
don't
get
it
right
and
I
think
we
try
to
our
best.
Research
on
who's
gonna
be
attending
the
meeting.
What
what
groups
are
in
the
area
I've
been
to
plenty
of
community
meetings.
We've
had
simultaneous
translation
or
our
train
or
a
meeting
in
a
in
Spanish
or
Cantonese,
with
translation
to
English,
but
we
we
don't.
G
F
C
F
F
G
F
F
G
C
So
I
have
other
questions:
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
to
monopolize
the
conversation
but
I'm
just
trying
to
highlight
before
I'll
ask
follow-up
questions
but
I'm
just
trying
to
highlight
the
importance
of
language
access
is
my
key
goal
as
part
of
this.
This
round.
I
can't
have
my
residents
not
be
informed
properly,
they
have
to
be
informed,
as
as,
as
any
other
group
is
informed
and
I
get
frustrated
and
I
get
mad.
When
my
constituents
aren't
properly
informed
of
meetings
in
they
go
to
meetings
and
the
translation
services
is
not
working.
I
was
frustrated.
C
With
the
recent
meeting
had
at
the
letter
district
on
Layton
Street,
we
had
communication
access
issues,
we
had
other
issues,
Logistics
logistic
issues
and
I
need
to
be
in
involved.
In
those
conversations
and
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
my
in
the
neighborhood
five
six
days
a
week
seven
days
a
week
and
they
asked
me:
why
wasn't
the
Chinese
community
engaged
in
the
process
and
I
say
to
them?
I'll
get
back
to
you
and
I'll
make
sure
that
we
beep
what
beep
EDA,
but
they
want
to
be
involved.
They
want
to
be
included.
F
A
So
I'm
gonna
hand
it
over
to
counselor
Edwards,
but
I
just
wanted
to
interject
to
back
up
counselor
Flynn,
because,
as
committee
chair,
what
I'll
say
is
that
I
have
witnessed
this
exchange.
This
exact
exchange
every
six
months
for
the
last
almost
year,
plus
now
of
counselor
Flynn,
actively
saying
I
want
to
be
part
of
this
I
want
to
make
sure
my
constituents
are
involved
and-
and
we
kind
of
and
I
know,
Chris
you're
relatively
new
to
it
and
you're
doing
a
great
job.
But
there
has
been
just
this
every
six
months.
A
We
have
the
same
conversation
over
and
over
again.
What
I
would
recommend
for
at
least
this
piece
of
it
is
that
maybe,
in
addition
to
doing
map
specific
meetings,
you
could
work
with
councilor
Flynn
and
do
a
Chinatown
community
specific
meeting
where
you
go
over
several
of
the
maps,
all
of
them
that
tangentially
touch
it
and
the
big
picture
so
that
we're
not
bound
by
the
arbitrary
boundaries
of
this.
A
These
maps,
which
actually
historically
tend
to
be
built
around
the
whole
communities
that
have
the
privilege
to
advocate,
to
be
in
one
whole
community
and
then
not
to
kind
of
further
disenfranchised
communities
that
are
divided
up
into
several
maps,
and
we
see
the
result
even
decades
later
so
that
not
to
create
extra
work
for
everyone.
But
it
feels
like
that
is
the
way
to
engage
the
community.
Not
to
ask
them
then
to
come
out
for
the
next
six
meetings,
with
more
notice,
which
is
great,
and
we
should
do
that
anyway.
F
Meets
second
I
think
that's
a
great
idea
as
long
as
counselor
Flynn
can
help
me
host
that
and
because
they
know
you
and
I
don't
mind,
facilitating
the
information
so
that
they
get
where
we're
coming
from
what
our
plans
are
and
because
I
was
planning
on
going
out
a
second
time
anyways
to
every
community.
Just
to
like
say
like
hey,
this
is
the
report,
and
what
do
you
guys
think
stop.
I
Want
to
thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
to
the
folks
who
are
from
my
district
and
also
folks
in
general,
who
are
just
I,
think
very
concerned
about
how
we're
planning,
not
just
the
future
of
Boston
as
a
city
but
our
neighborhoods,
and
how
they
can
thrive.
I
want
to
break
my
questioning
up
into
three
buckets.
I
One
is
continuing
on
the
access
and
I
guess:
transparency
that
council
Flynn
was
dealing
with
then
also
want
to
deal
with
the
we
had
brought
this
up
in
a
separate
hearing,
but
I
think
it's
very
important
for
us
to
to
really
discuss
again
transparency
and
making
sure
that
promises
are
fulfilled
under
121
a
which
is
how
a
lot
of
some
of
the
urban
renewal
is
implemented
through
institutions
and
corporations.
Getting
basically
this
land
tax-free,
called
light
blighted
land
and
then
being
able
to
make
a
lot
of
money
off
of
it.
I
F
I
I
I
So
when
you
look
at
the
table
and
you
see
who
is
there
who's
consistently
there
and
who
is
not,
and
if
the
BPD
a
is
not
part
of
making
sure
that
that
table
is
diverse
as
possible,
whether
you
mean
to
or
not,
you
are
continuing
the
systemic
biases
and
can
stem
it.
The
systemic
issues
that
a
lot
of
communities
already
have.
I
That
is
not
a
bad
thing,
but
our
community,
especially
in
Charleston,
is
not
just
that
community,
and
so,
if
all
of
the
planning
conversations
happen
with
that
community,
then
I
want
you
to
I.
Think
it's
important
the
BPD
a
because
you
represent
all
of
the
communities
right.
Look
at
that
as
a
dirt
and
look
at
that
as
a
delta
and.
H
I
That
for
a
lack
of
access
and
that
you
cannot
continue
those
conversations
and
call
that
a
successful
attempt
at
meeting
people
where
they
are
or
a
successful
attempt
at
having
a
true
community
conversation
I
struggle
with
it
too.
This
is
not
just
the
BPD,
a
I
struggle
with
it
too,
but
the
meetings
that
I
host
with
the
hearings
that
I
have
but
I
am
saying
this,
because
on
Tuesday
there
were
two
meetings
about
planning:
a
future
of
Trent
of
Charleston.
I
One
meeting
on
the
BPD
a
was
hosted
at
the
library
criticism,
I
heard
from
four
to
six
I.
Don't
know
why
we
didn't
have
a
later
time
when
a
lot
of
people
could
come
after
work,
but
at
the
other
meeting
I
had
it
was
in
the
CRA
with
the
Charlestown
resident
Alliance.
It
was
one
of
the
best
run
community,
led
meetings
I've
ever
been
to
where
they
discussed
literally
how
they
are
going
to
leave
their
home.
I
Fifty
three
families
are
going
to
leave
Charlestown
unless
we
come
up
with
a
way
for
them
to
stay
on
site,
which
is
what
they
see
are
a
and
the
folks
are
fighting
for.
440
units
and
it's
the
juxtaposition
of
those
two
meetings
demographically
income-wise
tone
who
felt
that
they
were
at
the
table
and
it's
like
being
in
two
different
cities
at
the
same
time,
but
here's
the
difference.
I
You
are
an
agency
that
represents
the
entire
city
and
the
entire
neighborhood,
and
so,
as
I've
said
for
this
instant
some
cases,
we
have
the
same
issues
in
East,
Boston
I've
suggested
as
many
times
at
the
table.
But
how
do
we
overcome
those
divisions?
I've
suggested
that
you
co-host
with
community
organizations
that
are
already
trusted
by
the
community,
for
example
a
Beck
in
East
Boston.
They
will
bring
their
members
there.
They
will
provide
the
translation.
They
are
there
for
those
folks
who
are
undocumented,
who
are
poor,
they
go
to
them
for
all
resources.
I
I
The
community
brings
the
community
and
you
need
to
co-host
not
just
hosts
in
different
areas,
but
co-host
with
Chinese
progressive
Association
co-hosts
with
city
life
co-hosted
with
these
organizations
that
will
bring
their
members
there,
and
that
is
that
trust
relationship
that
you're
going
to
have
tonight
understand
the
dynamics,
the
politics
of
picking
which
organization.
But
if
you
continue
not
to
pick
them,
you
will
continue
to
continue
the
systemic
ways
in
which
we
are
already
divided
in
our
neighborhoods
and
is
a
concern
for
me,
because
the
impact
of
your
decisions
are
permanent.
I
They
will
crystallize
and
and
I
sure
that
the
certain
segregations
are
certain
voices
or
certain
opinions
about
what
is
beautiful
about
what
is
just
about
what
is
inclusive.
Certain
voices
will
be
heard
on
those
things
and
other
ones
will
be
drowned
out,
and
you
cannot
continue
to
have
these
meetings
that
do
that.
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
and
I
brought
up
the
suggestion
again
of
co-hosting
co-hosting
I
want
to
agree
with
you
Devon
on
your
comment
about
translation,
though,
and
I
wanted
to
note
that,
just
because
someone
is
multilingual,
they're
hired
at
the
planning
department
or
they're
hired
at
the
development
department
to
do
that
job
right
we
do
not,
and
if
they
are
going
to
be
translating,
then
they
should
be
certainly
compensated
even
more
for
that
skill
set
that
they
bring
in.
But
they
were
hired
to
do
that
particular
job
I
agree
with
you,
councillor
Flynn.
I
We
should
then
look
at
the
diversity
of
the
folks
and
how
we're
hiring
them,
and
maybe
we
should
consider
some
translators
on-site
hired
directly
by
the
BPD.
A
but
I
access
is
social
justice
who
the
tables
that
you
create
are
welcoming
or
not
welcoming,
and
you
can
tell
if
you've
done
a
good
job
by
who's
at
the
table.
I
So
I'm
just
going
to
say
that
not
saying
this
is
intentional
I'm
saying
I
also
struggle
with
it
as
well,
so
I'm
happy
to
work
with
you
I've
given
suggestions
before,
but
unless
those
tables
look
like
the
neighborhoods
that
are
gonna
be
permanently
impacted
by
your
decisions.
We're
not
doing
our
jobs,
we're
just
not
so.
G
I
would
just
say,
on
the
behalf
of
the
PvdA
I,
think
that
the
issues
that
all
three
of
you
bringing
up
here
are
incredibly
important
and
we
completely
agree
with
you.
We
see
acts
as
a
social
justice
issue,
I
think
we're
committed
to
improving
our
engagement
efforts
and
what
and
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
much
broader
than
urban
renewal
or
analysis.
It's
a
one
tactical
work
stream
that
we're
working
on
right.
Now.
That's
it's
very
important.
G
That's
what
we're
here
to
talk
about
today,
but
the
issues
you
bring
up
counselor
are
also
about
our
development
review,
work,
I'm,
a
real
estate
work
about
our
planet
and
particularly
our
planning
work
as
I
think
you
know,
we've
hired
it
so
so
this
is.
This
is
both
language
access
is
one
part
of
this:
how
we
host
meetings,
who
we
were,
that
we
co-host
them
or
host
themselves,
what
times
we
host
them
had
and
now.
So
what
does
the
structure
of
the
zoning
show?
He
even
do
meetings,
and
this
is
something
that
I
know.
G
Our
planning
team
is
working
on.
What
is
the
best
way
to
reach
people,
but
I
think
we
could
always
improve,
and
there
were
some
great
tactical
improvements,
including
the
one
council
who
suggested
about
how
to
how
to
structure
these
meetings
and
for
for
the
Chinatown
who
know
bowling
meetings
specifically
but
where
we
say
we're
all
ears.
You
guys
live
this
every
day
and
were
amenable
to
every
suggestion
on
how
to
improve
the
community
dialogue,
and
sometimes
maybe
meetings,
isn't
the
right
way
to
do
things.
G
But
there
should
be
other
ways
to
reach
us
as
well
and
I.
Think
with
our,
we
have
hired
a
staff
of
community
engagement
managers
on
the
on
planning
team,
whose
sole
job
is
to
think
about
this
issue:
how
to
connect
with
the
community
members
that
are
vested
in
our
and
the
decisions
that
the
DPD
a
makes
so
I.
I
But
I'm
gonna
move
to
now
the
bucket
of
121,
a
that's
okay,
121,
a
those
are
tax
agreements
for
those
who
are
unaware,
in
many
cases,
to
help
implement
urban
renewal.
Private
public
partnerships
were
made
between
large
corporations
and
they
were
given
tax
breaks
of
the
tracts
of
land
to
develop
to
develop
those
land,
so
they
didn't
have
to
pay
real
estate
and
they
didn't
have
to
pay
I
think
they
had
to
pay
an
excise
fee
pretty
much
for
years
until
they
was
able
to
bring
about
the
renewal.
I
Many
of
the
prom
made
me
many
promises
is
put
in
terms
of
mitigation
to
assure
that
that
could
happen
the
monitoring
of
those
promises,
the
the
eventual,
whether
it's
brought
out
of
a
blighted
area
to
a
fully
developed
area.
A
lot
of
those
things
were
forgotten
institutionally
and
for
many
people.
These
corporations,
who
then
set
up
with
the
tax
breaks,
then
rented
the
properties
to
themselves
and
then
made
money
off
of
subcontracts
there.
I
It's
a
loophole
that
many
of
them
took
advantage
of
has
put
us
in
a
situation
where
a
lot
of
people
have
questioned
urban
renewal
in
general
question
who's,
monitoring
this
and
then,
as
we
saw
with
children,
who
came
and
exposed
TD
Gardens
promises
from
the
1990s
to
actually
raise
money
for
youth
engagement
and
that
they
had
not
fulfilled
that
promise.
We
see
that
in
many
cases
there
was
not
only
taken
advantage
of,
but
people
literally
just
walked
away
scot-free
and
took
the
money
from
the
city
of
Boston.
I
So
when
you're
gonna
phase
that
out-
and
we
already
found
that
there
have
been
certain
promises
unfulfilled,
what
what
what
happens
at
the
phase-out
moment
are
we
talking
about
like
well
looks
like
you
haven't:
are
we
gonna
assess
all
the
promises
and
the
unpaid
money
raised?
Are
we
going
to
hold
them
accountable
for
that
I?
Think
that's
a
time
since
we're
it's
coming
to
an
end.
All
so
I
assume,
then
we're
gonna
start
collecting
real
estate
taxes.
Do
we
have
a
record
of
what's
been
built?
H
H
But
for
the
government
intervention,
the
private
market
is
not
going
to
yield
for
us,
a
project
that
what
we
want
to
see
here
and
so
as
part
of
the
tools
of
a
chapter
121,
a
which
are
very
different
or
not
so
much
different,
but
they
don't
necessarily
have
to
go
hand-in-hand
with
an
urban
renewal
plan
area,
but
what
they
do
there.
What
we
do
there
is
we
regulate.
H
H
That
was
through
special
legislation,
not
specifically
done
under
the
chapter
121
a
so
that
project
received
a
whole
host
of
different
types
of
regulations
that
came
through
to
put
put
it
together,
but
something
like
that
had
it
not
been
done
under
the
special
legislation
that
we
would
have
captured
it
in
either
our
article
80
documents
or
a
regulatory
agreement,
and
we
would
have
monitored
it
in
that
way.
So
when
these
projects
terminate
the
obligations
under
these
agreements
also
terminate,
but
what
we
do
design
them.
I
Just
to
make
sure
I'm
clear,
especially
with
the
termination
and
the
promises
when
these,
when
these
projects
terminate
the
BPA,
has
monitored
the
entire
time,
whether
there's
any
obligations
made
on
the
121
a.
But
if
it's
under
a
special
act,
BPD
a
doesn't
necessarily
monitor
whether
those
promises
were
it.
I
G
I'm
gonna
any
of
your
questions
specific
to
120
180.
So
this
may
not
marry
on
the
answer,
your
question,
but
but
there
there
are
a
host
of
restrictions
that
we
can
put
placed
on
our
properties
and
128
they're,
relatively
rare,
and
it's
very
specific
area
and
Renee's
our
expert
on
that
sort
of
like
a
farm
team,
but
in
general.
G
Generally
speaking,
there
are
two
ways
which
the
BPD
would
dispose
of
property,
either
through
a
sale
of
property
or
at
least,
if
it's
a
land
lease,
then
the
the
terms
of
the
land
lease
govern
any
sort
of
restrictions
that
are
on
the
property.
We
actively
monitor
that
we
lower
the
lease
administration
team
that
they
do
nothing
but
monitor
the
terms
of
leases.
That's
everything
from
the
payments
which
are
important,
but
also
the
affordable
housing
restrictions
that
other
Community
Benefit
restrictions
that
might
be
or
requirements
that
might
be
in
the
lease
separately.
G
If
we
sell
a
property,
we
create
a
land
disposition.
Agreement
Chris
spoke
earlier
about
the
the
we
call,
those
lDA's
the
LD
David
database,
they're
putting
online
that
has
the
the
terms
and
restrictions
we've
compliant.
A
lot
of
those
are
housing
restrictions,
for
example
compliance
team
upstairs
that
monitors,
affordable
housing
restrictions.
So
there
is
so
I
want
to
set
the
stage
that
there
are.
G
I
H
I
Not
or
or
that
entity
the
corporation
had
not
fulfilled
its
promises
and
I'm
curious.
Who
is
going
to
do
the
audit
who's
going
to
do
the
accounting
if
that
promise
wasn't
fulfilled
when
this
is
becoming
as
we're
sunsetting
now
urban
renewal
who's
gonna
be
at
the
table
to
make
sure
that
we
have
been
made
whole
who's
going
to
be
looking
at
any
of
those
promises
made
and
since
we're
coming
since
you're.
Just
since
the
decision,
I
think
is
to
sunset,
is
coming.
G
I
G
G
That's
mean
so
we
are
doing
that
work
if
it's
lease
I
think
we've
got
it.
We
were
very
good
structures
in
place
its
land
disposition
agreement,
as
we
were,
making
the
moving
towards
Sun
setting.
Let's,
let's
redouble
our
efforts
to
make
sure
we
have
a
great
answer
to
that
question,
but
that
we
are
in
fact
looking
at
the
LBAs
and
then
we
can
get
back
to
you
for
further
details
on
the
121,
a.
I
I
And
then
my
third
bucket
was
on
phase
three
specifically
looking
at
Charlestown
and
questions
that
I
had
from
the
last
time
we
discussed
urban
renewal
in
Charlestown
and
I.
Don't
know
that
either
one
of
you
are
actually
yet
in
your
current
position.
So
I'm
I
will
give
you
that
acknowledgement
that
I'm
asking
maybe
you
for
the
first
time
these
questions,
and
so
my
questions
were
concerning
when
you're
looking
at
urban
renewal
and
dispositions
and
also
how
the
need
for
the
community
to
continue
in
and
under
the
auspices
of
urban
renewal.
I
Who
are
you
talking
with
specifically?
Does
the
BPD
a
talk
with
bps
Boston
Public
Schools,
when
you're
looking
at
urban
renewal
and
growth
and
specifically
build
bps
that
came
about
because
of
the
concerns
for
the
fact
that
we're
tripling
the
size
of
the
development
and
Charlestown
the
amount
of
children
that
are
coming
on
and
when
you're
looking
at
plots
that
are
owned
by
the
BPD
a
in
Charlestown
and
how
you're
planning
for
and
not
how
you're,
not
talking?
I
Also
with
bps,
that
was
one
of
the
buckets
of
questions
I
had
the
other
question
I
had
was
specifically
about
how
how
you
are
engaging
specifically
on
on
housing
and
home
ownership
in
Charlestown
and
looking
at
urban
renewal.
I
know
that
there
was
the
the
two
pots:
the
Bunker
Hill
Bunker
Hill
Community
College
parking
lots
and
again
with
the
urban
renewal
kind
of
auspices.
How
are
you
planning
specifically
for
that
and
then?
Finally,
as
you
know,
there's
a
conversation,
a
good
conversation
about
why
we
need
a
master
plan
and
Charlestown.
I
G
Are
great
questions
I
can
take
statin
Chris
feel
free
to
jump
in
so
the
first
question
around
Boston
Public
Schools.
Yes,
we
are
certainly
talking
about
some
public
schools
and
a
regular
basis
about
different
issues.
We
have
a
working
group
of
planning
development
review
in
real
estate
with
with
bps
facilities
and
policy,
and
some
folks
from
the
leadership
team
just
to
talk
about
issues
and
trends,
we're
seeing
the
city
ever
running
feedback
by
asked
about
their
bill.
G
Bps
plan
we're
talking
about
real
estate
holdings
we've
had
they
have
approached
us
several
times
for
just
a
friendly
advice
on
what
in
real
estate
either
acquisitions
or
sales
they're
considering
just
eaten.
Since
we
do
the
majority
we're
involved
in
the
majority
of
the
city's
real
estate
transactions,
we're
in
a
good
position
to
sort
of
offer
them
some
feedback
when
it
comes
to
Charlestown.
Specifically,
we
talked
to
them
about
property
that
we
own
in
the
area
or
property
that
they
own
the
area,
certainly
there's.
G
For
example,
the
Edward
school
property
parking
lot,
former
BPD
a
property
we
talked
to
VPS
about.
It
ended
up
transferring
it
in
a
port
development,
because
the
school
thought
that
it
is
not
necessarily
an
asset
that
they
need
for
the
long
term
and
would
be
better
served.
They
can
be
better
served
for
that
to
be
a
housing
site
in
the
long
term.
G
Certainly,
community
meetings
need
to
be
held
in
for
the
discussion
on
that.
But
that's
the
sort
of
type
of
conversation
you
have
together
and
so
I
do
think
we
are
in
coordination,
but
can
always
improve,
certainly
on
housing
and
homeownership.
Certainly
an
issue:
that's
really
important
to
music
working
our
real
estate.
G
Our
first
space
is
and
important
to
the
DPD,
a
leadership
in
the
mayor
that
we're
using
public
land
for
public
good,
that's
something
we
sincerely
believe
in
and
if
you
look
at
how
BPD
a
properties
have
been
developed
for
residential
uses,
I
think
the
record
speaks
for
itself.
Look
at
the
most
recent
development
on
Peabody
Island
in
Charlestown
is
the
Bridgeview
Center
project
adjacent
to
Bunker,
Hill,
Community,
College
and
good
park.
It's
in
the
middle
there
and
that's
a
100
percent,
affordable
residential
housing
development
with
I.
Think.
G
So
I
guess
the
the
the
trajectory
there
is
not
that
we
don't
do
market
rate
development
we
and
Dudley
square.
We
are
considering
some
market
development,
a
third
market
development
and
two-thirds
income
restricted,
but
we're
thee,
putting
the
public
voice
at
the
at
the
front
of
what
we're
doing
on
public
land
and
thinking
about
how
we
can
use
our
land
to
create
it
could
to
increase
affordability
options
and
on
the
master
plan,
and
that
not
not
my
department,
but
certainly
something
that
that
we're
involved
in
we
have
folks
from
policy
real
real
estate.
G
Here
we
can
get
it,
have
a
plan
or
join
us
in
the
future.
That's
that's
being
led
by
our
planning
department,
but
certainly
we
agree
with
the
community
testimony
that
was
given
earlier.
We
want
to
be
as
open
and
inclusive
during
that
process
and
I.
Think
there's
been
some
terminology
dispute
over
what
do
they
call
it?
A
master
plan
or
a
strategic
plan,
but
I
think
the
the
goals
are
the
same.
Charles
Town
is
facing
development
pressure.
How
can
we
manage
that
growth
appropriately?
G
I
H
So
what
we've
been
doing
is
speaking.
We
have
sort
of
the
urban
renewal
team
at
the
BPA
working
more
hand-in-hand
with
the
planners,
because
the
next
few
phases
of
our
outreach
is
going
out
to
some
of
the
bigger
urban
renewal
areas,
and
so
we
know
that
we
have
to
tailor
and
be
very
specific
about
what
we
may
be
proposing
for
changes
to
those
plans.
And
so
we
know
we
can't
do
that.
H
You
know
looking
at
the
Rutherford
Avenue
corridor
things
things
like
that,
so
we
are
working
with
the
planners
and
then
once
we
sort
of
have
a
comprehensive
list
of
the
things
that
need
to
be
addressed.
Then
we
then
put
a
proposal
together
to
see
if
they
fit
within
an
urban
renewal
plan
proposal
for
changes
or
if
it
makes
sense
that
they
stay
within
sort
of
the
planning.
F
I
think
you
know
having
lived
in
Charleston.
My
whole
life,
like
the
fun
part
of
urban.
All
anyways
of
my
job
is
like
so
in
in
the
master
plan
and
I
need
for
Charlestown
would
be
something
like
any
station
and
us
having
property
and
being
able
to
make
that
happen
or
potentially
happen.
It
was
like
an
excited
thing
because
that,
and
that
way
your
marring
that's
you
together
that
the
people
of
the
community
are
saying
we
need
this
service
gbpd
and
her
Bernal
can
help
provide
that
via
their
land.
So
it's
exciting.
B
A
My
questions
and
I
know
we
have
three
people
still
signed
up
to
testify.
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
make
sure
my
understanding
was
clear.
Just
for
the
record
so
from
your
presentation.
It
sounded
like.
There
are
four
areas
that
are
very
likely
to
sunset:
North
Station
by
July,
2020,
central
business,
district,
school
Franklin,
Park,
Plaza
and
central
business
district,
Boylston
Essex.
Although
there
was
a
sort
of
an
asterisk
around
Park
Plaza
and
whether
for.
F
A
F
H
Council
we
also
we
were
we
as
we
went
over
this
with
DHCD,
and
we
told
them
that
this
is.
You
know.
This
is
what
we're
see
based
on
the
community,
outreach
that
we've
done
so
far,
but
what
they've
asked
us
to
do
is
to
continue
with
our
outreach
and
our
engagement
and
that
we
would
come
back
in
a
year
from
August
to
DHCD
to
give
to
update
the
proposal
and
and
give
them
more
of
a
final
version,
and
then
that
way,
our
you
know,
our
initial
outreach
will
have
been
complete
as
well.
H
F
A
To
sunset,
six
total
possible
to
sunset
and
then
the
remaining
ten
which,
over
six
in
Phase
two
and
four
and
phase
three,
are
also
the
largest
ones,
so
it
felt
like
they're.
You
know,
given
that
the
outreach
is
going
to
be
later
anyway,
probably
won't
be
at
a
point
where
you
will
be
like
you
will
likely
be
asking
for
extension
of
those
ten.
A
H
Sounds
like
what
we'll
be
looking
at
there
based
on
with
our
community,
is
boundary
changes
possibly
and
for
any
of
them
that
we
may
be
seeking
extension.
It
will
be
very
strategic,
very
precise.
We
will
not
be
asking
for
you
know
something
blanket
or
we
will
be
asking
for
areas
depending
on
what
you
know.
Our
analysis
is
showing
and
community
feedback
that
we're
getting
when.
F
A
A
When
you
are
approaching
those
communities
be
given
that
phase
two
and
phase
three
Maps
feel
like
they're
in
a
different
place
and
size
and
kind
of
category,
then
the
phase
1
maps.
Are
you
proactively
you'll
walk
through
the
parses
and
everything,
but
are
you
going
to
suggest
a
ten-year
extension
to
wrap
things
up
or
any
time
amount
of
time.
H
Yeah
we
will,
we
believe,
based
on
where
we
think
we're
headed,
that
any
extension
would
be
of
varying.
It
will
be
varying
depending
on
exactly
what
needs
to
be
done
and,
depending
again,
on
working
with
the
community
and
proposing
what
we
see
there
and
then
just
again,
seeing
if,
if
that's
what
they
want
to
see
as
well.
Okay,.
A
And
so
by
our
next
council
check-in
in
April
or
May
at
least
the
outreach
will
have
been
done,
and
maybe
even
a
second
wave,
so
that
you
will
have
some
public
conversation
about
what
you
were
likely
going
to
finalize
into
the
August
twenty
twenty
day
to
DHCD.
That's
correct,
okay
and
then
my
last
question
was
on
you
had
mentioned
I
forget
which
area
it
was.
Maybe
Brunswick
King
that
there's
you
know
some
conversations
around,
not
Sun
setting
a
particular
area
because
on
one
parcel
the
developer
wanted
to
keep
it
until
it
was
designated.
F
We
we
own
it,
and
there
was
just
one
guy
he's
like
a
housing
advocate
in
the
area
that
he's
very
passionate
about
being
highly
involved
in
getting
the
community
involved
in
what
should
go
there.
He
suggested
a
duplex,
affordable
part
of
that
and
he's
like
I.
Don't
want
you
guys
to
move
forward
until
this
is
right
and
I'm
involved
in
the
community
as
well.
So
that
was
just
me
sort
of
you
know
being
able
to
him
and.
G
So
I
think
I
guess
to
answer
your
earlier
question
counselor
about
those
two
that
were
likely
to
sunset
I
think
it's
the
same
answer
here.
We
think
we're
on
a
trajectory
to
sunset
them,
and
maybe
we
can
accomplish
that
by
without
an
extension,
but
I
think
that's
going
to
come
down
to
Chris
is
doing
a
great
job,
creating
an
emerging
community
of
consensus
around
what
should
be
done
with
the
properties
in
these
areas.
Will
we
be
able
to
actually
finally
execute
on
that
by
2021?
Can
we
you
know
so
a
couple
of
these.
G
You
heard
that
affordable
housing
was
probably
a
likely
outcome
of
that
I
think
we
have
not
answered
the
question
definitively
whether
we
should
wait
until
the
affordable
housing
is
completed,
construction
to
sunset,
urban,
rural
or,
if
we'd,
feel
comfortable
Sun
setting
over
knurl
in
that
area.
Well,
designation
process
was
underway
so
that
sort
of
an
unanswered
question.
Okay,
are.
A
G
A
G
Demonstration
beyond
this,
but
I
believe
the
answer
is
through
a
demonstration
project,
Authority
and
I
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
one
of
the
real
public
benefits
of
urban
renewal
agency
is
it's
30
B
exemption
when
it
comes
to
acquisition
of
property,
not
something
we're
doing
today
in
a
big
way.
But
I
would
just
discuss
this
before
the
example
of
the
foreclosure
for
a
crisis
when
the
EPA
was
able
to
act
quickly
and
purchase
homes
that
were
in
foreclosure
to
keep
those
homeowners
in
their
homes
and
not
have
them
be
become.
G
H
I,
just
also
want
to
point
out
that,
as
part
of
our
last
extension
and
approval
from
the
state,
we
have
an
agreement
that
we
will
follow
a
specific
process
for
disposition
of
real
estate.
That
is
really
mirrors
the
DHCD
process
today
under
their
mass
regulations.
So
we
do
have
to
provide
them
with
appraisals
that
were
doing
the
notices
and
the
outreach
the
land
disposition,
agreements
that
were
that
we
plan
to
enter
into
so
that
they
have
that
review
of
what
we're
doing
before
we
finalize
and.
G
The
city
can
acquire
property
for
municipal
purpose.
Public
housing
is
an
administrable
purpose,
but
if
some
government-run
housing,
privately
operated,
affordable,
housing,
I
believe
is
not
considered
a
municipal
purpose.
So
I
think
we
we
can
do
a
deep
dive
on
this.
Make
sure
we'll
give
you
a
very
definitive
answer.
Okay,
but
I
think
that
the
city
could
not
purchase
a
private
home
and
keep
that
homeowner
in
it.
Okay,.
A
B
C
I
had
the
opportunity
to
visit
the
dedicated
and
professional
library
staff
at
the
Chinatown
library
and
although
it's
small,
it's
an
excellent
library,
obviously
it's
located
in
the
China
Trade
Center
and
it's
getting
a
lot
of
use
and
it's
probably,
in
my
opinion,
I
think
it's
one
of
the
best
accomplishments
of
of
this
administration
is
building
a
library.
Although,
as
I
mentioned,
it's
temporary
and
I
know,
the
city
is
headed
in
the
right
direction,
with
the
permanent
library.
C
G
The
renovations
planned
for
the
China
trade
building
are
largely
a
painting
project
to
paint
the
atrium
make
it
a
nicer
space
as
they
entered
the
library
there,
so
I,
don't
I
I
would
have
to
ask
BPL
for
a
definitive
answer,
but
I'm
pretty
confident.
The
answer
is
no
that
the
temporary
library
is
there
until
the
permanent
okay
input,
Murray
library,
yeah.
That's
that's.
C
What
I
was
hoping
for
I
would
never
want
to
want
to
see
the
temporary
one
closed
until
the
permanent
one
is
opened.
So
I
appreciate
that
and
I'm
just
wondering
is.
It
relates
to
school
and
Franklin
the
goals,
but,
generally
speaking,
you
know
the
last
three
goals.
You
have
stabilization
of
property
taxes.
We
have,
if
there's
any
buildings
and
dilapidated,
but
building
structures,
encourage
increase
acceptance
and
mass
transit,
but
is
there
a
way
to
that?
We
want
to
update
the
goals
of
urban
renewal.
C
C
H
G
That
the
way
that
that
buildings
operate
is
different
from
the
China
trade
center,
so
the
China
trade
center.
We,
the
BVD
a,
has
no
long
term
land
lease
for
we
do
direct
tenant.
We
do
direct
leases
to
all
the
tenants
and
on
the
floors
so
where
the
landlord,
in
the
case
of
the
old
city
hall,
building,
that's
it's
a
land
lease.
So
there's
a
ownership
entity
that
for
the
next,
it's
less
less
than
99
years,
but
it's
more
than
70
it's
about
70!
G
G
But
the
what
the
tenancy
picture
looks
like
in
the
old
city
hall
building,
but
we
did
in
a
previous
sale
of
that
building
that
buildings
least
negotiated
for
significant
improvements
to
the
public
realm
and
the
historic
facade
and
keeping
that
building
in
great
shape,
and
we
were
able
to
take
a
tour
of
it
recently
and
it
seemed
pretty
well
occupied
and
you'll
you'll
see
some
of
those
improvements
being
made
in
the
in
the
coming
weeks.
But
I
could
we
could
have
we'd
have
to
talk
to
the
landlord
to
get
you
the
details
on
the
tenancy.
G
C
You
and
then
my
final
comment,
I
guess
not
really
a
question.
You
don't
have
to
respond.
Maybe
we
can
talk
later,
but
as
in
kind
of
a
follow
up
to
Council
Edwards
on
the
Boston
Garden
issue.
We
read
recently
in
the
newspaper
of
the
of
the
BCE,
see
possibly
expanding
in
the
Hynes
Convention
Center,
possibly
being
sold.
The
Hines
Convention
Center
is
is
in
my
district.
Obviously
the
BCC
is
in
my
district
I'm
wondering
Kent
part
of
the
conversation
be
as
it
relates
to
BPD
a.
Can.
We
also
look
at
the
Heinz
convention
Senate.
C
Are
there
any
agreements
that
haven't
been
met
in
terms
of
outreach
to
working
with
the
community
to
as
part
of
the
as
part
of
the
community
process,
where
residents
would
feel
empowered
and
we're
able
to
build
whether
it
was
a
library
of
or
other
city
services
or
nonprofit
organizations?
Is
there
anything
in
those
contracts
that
haven't
been
dealt
with.
G
It's
a
great
question,
counselor
and
I.
Think
we'll
take
you
up
on
your
offer
and
we're
just
the
staff
at
this
table
are
just
learning
about
that.
So
we'd
love
to
look
into
that
and
talk
to
director
golden
about
it
and
you
can
get
back
to
you.
But
it's
a
fantastic
question
and
in
a
in
an
issue,
though
I'm
sure
we'll
be
working
on
in
the
coming
weeks
and.
C
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
panelists
via
professionalism
today,
if
you
see
a
hard
work
and
please
let
direct
a
goal
to
know
that
we
appreciate
your
hard
work
and
I
always
had
great
respect
for
directed
gold
and
especially
his
work
in
advocacy
and
helping
so
many
military
families
across
across
our
state.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
We
were
thinking
Thank.
A
You
councillor
Flynn,
so
no
further
questions
from
my
colleagues.
We
will
move
to
the
final
three
members
of
the
public
who
signed
up
to
testify:
Johanna,
Hines,
Alison,
patinas
and
Martin
Brodeur
again.
If
you
could
come
to
either
one
of
these
microphones
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
limit
your
testimony
to
two
minutes.
Kindly.
J
Yeah
so
yes,
I'm
I'm,
Johanna
Hines
spelled
like
the
convention
center,
but
no
relation
and
I
live
in
Charlestown
I've
lived
in
Charlestown
for
fifteen
years,
not
my
whole
life
but
I
hope
to
spend
the
rest
of
my
life
there.
It's
a
really
special
place
and
it's
taken
me
a
long
time
to
kind
of
wake
up
to
all
the
changes
that
are
on
the
table.
As
you
put
it
and
I,
you
know,
I've
been
busy
being
a
mom
and
just
busy
like
everybody
else,
but
I
am
invested
now.
J
You
know
and
I
want
to
give
my
time
and
my
voice
I
showed
up
at
the
meeting
that
was
held
at
the
plant
of
a
planners
chat
on
Tuesday.
My
son
goes
to
Roxbury
lat
and
I
drove
all
the
way
to
West
Roxbury.
To
get
him
said
he
could
come
to
the
meeting.
I
saw
people
dropping
off.
You
know.
People
have
been
born
in
Charlestown,
don't
have
cars
or
can't
drive
anymore
at
the
door
of
the
library
because
they
wanted
to
be
there.
J
They're,
like
60
people
at
4:00
in
the
afternoon,
maybe
70
it
was
incredible
like
living
in
Charlestown,
has
always
been
great,
but
that
meeting
made
me
so
proud
to
be
not
a
townie,
but
a
member
of
Charlestown
I
wish.
You
know.
I
know
I
got
to
be
reborn.
Yeah
I
get
that
though
anyway
so
I
get
there
and
I'm
like,
and
there
is
a
poster
board
as
big
as
my
arms
are
wide
redirecting
people
to
a
spot
that
was
not
disclosed
in
advance
down
on
the
corner
toward
the
entrance
for
Whole
Foods.
J
They
have
a
table,
they
have
a
sign.
They
have
a
clipboard
and
a
man,
the
planner.
They
are
to
answer
questions.
There
are
60
plus
people
half
over
the
age
of
65,
waiting
at
the
library
to
chat
with
the
planner
who
refuses
to
come
inside
and
says
to
me
and
a
handful
of
others
that
this
was
a
choice
made
on
the
fly,
because
it's
a
nice
day.
I
said
to
him
all
these
people
are
waiting
for
you
inside.
You
can't
just
sit
out
here,
they're
waiting
to
talk
to
you.
J
He
said
two
of
my
colleagues
are
in
there,
neither
of
whom
are
planners
so
I
redirected
as
many
people
as
I
could,
because
it
a
clear
distraction.
It
was
disorienting
for
people
that
weren't
sure
if
you
had
walked
by
and
seen
this
table
and
the
sign
promoting
this.
As
the
chat
you
would
have
said,
this
must
not
be
a
big
issue,
because
there
is
nobody
here.
I'm,
not
gonna,
worry
about
it.
J
Meanwhile,
there
are
70
people
that
are
worried
about
it
upstairs,
so
that
was
a
real
turnoff
as
like
the
entree
into
this
caring
about
Charleston
for
me,
but
it
also
got
my
Irish
up
and
now
I'm
gonna
fight,
even
harder.
It's
not
fight
with
someone
but
fight
for
someone.
Something
Charles
turns
like
the
mother
of
Boston.
It's
different,
it's
not
just
a
town
in
Boston,
it
is
the
town
and
it
needs
to
be
respected,
and
these
rules
around
like
how
we're
going
to
redevelop
MIT
need
to
be
reflective
of
it
being
the
mother.
K
My
name
is
Allison
pole,
tennis
and
I
live
in
Mission
Hill
in
between
the
Fenway
and
campus
high.
So
those
are
both
plans
I'm
following
for
a
lot
of
reasons,
I
just
want
to
address
a
few
points
in
the
submission
to
the
state
and
the
16
page
cover
letter.
The
last
statement
is
the
BPD
a
will
seek
an
extension
of
the
term
of
the
plans
for
most,
if
not
all,
of
the
above
nine
urban
renewal
plans.
Those
are
the
nine
in
phases
two
and
three,
so
that
includes
Fenway,
Southend,
etc.
K
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that
contradicts
some
of
what
you
just
heard,
but
it
does
say
that
they
will
be
seek
most
likely
be
seeking
an
extension
and
I'm
disappointed
that
what
we
thought
was
going
to
be
a
three-year
update,
as
of
August,
is
now
postponed
to
August
2024,
really
hearing
more
of
the
details
for
those
very
larger
plans
addressing
the
community
process.
So
far,
it's
I
mean
obviously
having
community
meetings
in
July
and
August.
K
June
is
difficult,
but
if
you
look
through
the
submissions
from
Chris-
and
you
see
the
sign-in
list,
they
were
less
than
10
people
attending
those
meetings,
and
so
feedback
and
process
and
engagement
is
really
critical
and
even
understanding.
This
definition
of
what?
What
are
we
talking
about
when
we're
talking
about
community
goals?
K
It's
so
ambiguous
and
vague
and
sure
sunsetting,
the
ones
that
are
so-called
done,
makes
sense.
Sun
setting
all
of
them
make
sense.
They
were
supposed
to
be
sunsetted.
What
in
2012-2013
related
to
the
Fenway
and
the
BR,
a
br,
a
owned
property,
tiny
slivers
symphony,
plaza
towers
and
those
are
supposed
to
be
transferred
to
the
T.
And
so,
if
we're
defining
whether
a
plan
gets
sunsetted
as
to
ownership
of
br
br
a
parcels,
then
it
seems
like
the
fenway
is
a
no
brainer.
K
It's
definitely
not
even
going
to
be
considered
because
those
were
the
only
parcels
owned.
On
the
other
hand,
if
we're
talking
about
lDA's
and
whether
lDA's
are
extended,
that's
something
that
really
should
be
totally
transparent
and
it
came
up
in
May
at
the
hearing
in
May
as
to
whether
the
public
was
going
to
have
access
to
the
inventory
and
I'm
still
not
clear
on
what
the
access
is
and
how
that
information
is
being
shared.
But
certainly
that
should
be
part
and
parcel
of
the
whole
conversation
about
sunsetting
is
a
shared
inventory.
K
Okay,
so
I
talked
about
the
community
process
and
the
disappointing
attendance
at
the
meetings,
the
scripts,
the
powerpoints
are
essentially
duplicates
of
each
other.
You
can
see
them
online,
just
the
whole
question
of
ambiguous
information
about
disposition
of
parcels
and
since
DNG
is
doing
a
lot
of
the
disposition
in
Roxbury.
Now
it
seems
like
this
is
a
no-brainer
again
to
transfer
parcels
to
D
and
G
and
have
them
handle
our
RFPs
for
those
parcels.
So,
but
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak,
and
hopefully,
I
didn't
go
over
my
two
minutes.
Thank
you.
Thank.
L
So
my
name
is
Martin
Rhett
I
live
on
Beacon
Street
in
Back
Bay
I'm.
Currently,
a
chair
of
the
Neighborhood
Association
of
the
Back
Bay
and
I
certainly
appreciate
the
counselors
for
bringing
this
topic
up
for
discussion.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
which
may
be
considered
naive
and
outrageous,
and
then
a
comment
about
counselor
Finn's,
raising
the
question
of
the
Hynes
Convention
Center,
which
is
obviously
one
that
is
a
great
concern
to
the
Back
Bay
community.
L
The
first
question
is,
since
there
seems
to
be
general
agreement
that
the
Park
Plaza
urban
renewal
zone
should
be
sunset.
Why
not
terminate
it
right
now?
Why
continue
with
it?
The
second
question
is
somewhat
broader.
I
am,
as
you
can
probably
tell
predominantly
white,
and
in
my
home
country
would
probably
be
categorized
as
of
a
middle
class.
L
Should
a
resume
nose
be
terminated
right
now?
What
is
the
reason
for
continuing
that?
This
is
on
the
same
principle
as
zero
based
budgeting.
You
know,
even
in
the
private
sector,
you
come
across
situations
in
which
things
continue
because
they've
been
around
for
a
long
time
and
they
have
a
certain
momentum
behind
them
and
it's
very
hard
to
stop
them
and
do
something
very
different.
L
My
final
comment
has
to
do
with
the
Heinz
convention
center,
the
announcement
from
the
governor's
office,
which
about
which
took
us
and
apparently
almost
everybody.
By
complete
surprise,
we
are
certainly
in
our
community
reaching
out,
but
initially
actually
to
the
state
legislature
because
they're
the
ones
who
will
have
to
pass
legislation
to
make
this
sale
even
possible
and
to
try
and
find
out
what
is
really
behind
what
the
governor
is
thinking.
L
We
also
intend
to
reach
out
to
the
city
councillors,
one
of
whom
at
least
will
change
by
the
time
we
get
to
the
mid
November
to
get
them
involved
in
the
process.
When
we
talk
about
communities,
we
conceive
not
only
agencies
such
as
the
BP
da
as
being
very
important
in
City
Hall,
but
also
elected
officials
at
the
municipal,
and
indeed
also
at
the
state
level.
So
I
hope
these
comments
are
helpful.
L
Looked
at
all
the
proposals
and
ideas
that
are
round
within
the
Back
Bay
and,
quite
frankly,
it's
it's
horrifying
in
the
sense
that
I
certainly
will
not
be
able
to
retire
for
a
very
long
time
to
come,
nor
my
colleagues
in
nab,
because
we're
going
to
have
to
address
them
and
I
think
similar
situations
are
rising
in
other
neighborhoods
in
Boston.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
I
Coming
here
today,
I
think
this
is
the
beginning
again
of
a
conversation
and
I
hope
that
you
took
a
lot
of
the
suggestions
about
how
to
make
sure
we
have
more
accessible
and
equitable
conversations.
These
those
are
suggestions
and
again
acknowledging
that
you
know
you're,
not
you
didn't
create
that,
but
we
cannot
continue
as
we're
going,
but
I
wanted
to
also
acknowledge
the
the
work
you
have
done.
I
This,
for
example,
I
think
you
went
Charleston
on
the
Bunker
Hill
development,
the
IAG
we
created
the
first
youth
seat
on
an
I
AG
that
allowed
for
kids
who
live
in
the
Bunker
Hill
development
to
have
the
first
youth
seat,
I
think
on
an
impact
advisory
group,
and
they
took
that
very
seriously.
So
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
that,
but
also
acknowledge
the
work,
the
BPD
a
did
and
welcoming
turn
it
around
kids
to
the
BPD,
a
giving
them
a
full
tour.
I
They
gave
a
historical
context,
an
actual
orientation
of
Charlestown
and
development
and
orientation,
and
so
it's
it's
in
those
moments
of
conversate
was
almost
two
hours,
but
it's
in
those
moments
of
conversation
and
growth
that
the
kids
felt
very
heard.
Very
valued
and
very
excited
to
be
part
of
the
planning
conversation
a
way
that
I
don't
know
that
they
had
before
so
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
work
and
say
we
still
have
a
lot
more
to
go.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
A
At
least
we
sort
of
know
what
we
don't
know
at
this
point
and
we're
trying
to
close
all
of
those
gaps.
And
so
we
will
continue
pushing
you
on
the
council
side
and
I'm
grateful
for
your
time
and
your
your
responsiveness
to
us
and
to
the
community.
So
we'll
look
forward
to
seeing
you
in
six
months
and
this
hearing
on
lost
my
docket
number,
this
hearing
on
docket
number
0
7,
3
6.
Regarding
the
City
Council's
biannual
urban
renewal,
progress
update
is
adjourned.