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Docket #0451 - Hearing regarding a $400,000 grant to fund the City's procurement of a solar storage system at Moon Island
A
For
the
committee
on
environment,
resiliency
and
parks
docket
zero,
four
five
one-
this
is
my
for
the
record
to
begin.
My
name
is
matt
o'malley,
I'm
the
district
six
city
council,
I'm
also
the
chair
of
the
council's
community
on
environment,
sustainability
and
parks.
I'm
joined
by
my
dear
colleague,
city,
councilor,
liz
braden
of
district
9..
A
Please
make
sure
that
your
zoom
handle
is
your
full
name
and
when
you
are
called
please
state
your
name
and
affiliation
or
your
residence
and
limit
your
comments
to
two
minutes
to
ensure
that
all
comments
and
concerns
can
be
heard.
If
you
are
unable
to
provide
testimony
today,
you
may
submit
written
testimony
or
two-minute
video
for
our
record
by
emailing
the
committee
at
ccc.ep
or
boston.gov.
A
A
A
Moon
island
serves
as
a
training
location
for
the
boston
fire
department
and
well
as
the
corresponding
agencies
for
14
other
cities
and
towns
in
greater
boston
massachusetts.
Clean
energy
center
has
partnered
with
the
city
of
boston,
to
install
these
solar,
arrays
and
energy
storage
system.
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
how
quickly
and
efficiently
we
can
get
this
project
online.
Mr
larusso,
before
I
get
to
you,
I
wanted
to
see
if
counselor
braden
had
any
opening
comments
or
before
we
get
into
your
presentation,
so
counselor
braden
the
floor
is
yours.
B
A
C
A
Of
course,
thank
you,
mr
larusso.
Welcome.
Thank
you
for
wearing
a
suit.
I
feel
underdressed
that
I'm
wearing
a
polo,
but
it's
it's
both
rainy
and
humid
today,
so
so
we're
trying
to
be
energy
efficient
in
the
o'malley
neforo's
household.
So
we
don't
have
the
air
conditioner
turned
on,
but
you
look
terrific
great
to
see
you.
We
typically
would
have
these
different
grant
hearing
orders-
I
don't
know
every
other
month
or
so.
A
D
D
During
brief,
the
power
outages,
they
brought
it
forward
because
they
recognized
that
among
the
commonwealth's
firefighters,
there
was
an
unease
with
this
technology.
They
know
that
it.
You
know
like
any
any
any
technology
that
contains
storage,
it
represents
a
life
safety
threat
to
them
when
they
respond
to
fires
and
in
order
to
begin
to
address
the
concerns
that
firefighters
have
regarding
life
safety
and
in
order
to
familiarize
firefighters
with
the
technology
in
all
of
its
form
factors
both
the
commercial
scale,
storage
configurations
and
domestic
configurations.
D
They
approached
the
city
and
asked
the
city.
If
you
know
they
told
us
they
wanted
to
support
the
development
of
these
technologies
at
the
moon
island
training
academy,
they
saw
it
as
a
perfect
fit,
and
we
have
worked
with
the
clean
energy
center
to
develop
this
project,
and
the
goal
is
to
not
only
deploy
storage
at
the
moon
island
training
academy,
but
to
also
install
solar
on
the
roof
and
we're
also
planning
on
installing
installing
solar
thermal
panels
on
the
roof.
D
The
storage
that
would
be
installed
as
part
of
this
project
would
be.
It
would
include
a
commercial
scale
configuration,
albeit
a
small
one,
would
be
125
kilowatts
and
the
domestic
included
domestic
battery.
But
the
goal
is
to
familiarize
the
firefighters
who
are
studying
at
the
moon
island
training
academy
to
become
familiar
with
the
you
know:
the
difference
between
solar
thermal
panels,
solar
photovoltaic
panels
and
these
commercial
scale
and
residential
scale
systems.
D
D
I
think
you
know
we
would
you
know
our
goal
would
be
to
get
an
rfp
out
by
the
end
of
the
year.
I
would
say
in
the
probably
in
the
early
november
time
frame
and
to
begin
construction
of
design
and
design,
I
would
think
over
the
winter
and
construction
beginning
in
the
late
winter,
early
spring.
Okay,.
A
And
is
I
I
would
assume
the
answer
would
be?
No.
Is
there
any
concern
that,
because
moon
island
is
technically
in
the
city
limits
of
quincy-
and
there
is
a
strong
disagreement
with
some
other
city
assets,
specifically
long
island
in
terms
of
quincy,
would
that
be?
Would
that
at
all
play
any
factor
into
hindering
construction
or
or
the
project
come
to
fruition?.
D
My
opinion
is
that
it
would
not
counselor.
You
know
this
is
not
a
large-scale
construction
project.
The
solar
would
be
a
rooftop
array.
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
been
to
the
fire
academy.
It's
it's
not
a
small
building,
but
it's
not
a
very
large
one,
and
you
know
the
delivery
of
the
storage
container
on
the
you
know.
D
For
the
commercial
scale,
solar
would
probably
be
one
truckload
delivery,
so
there
wouldn't
be
a
you
know:
a
vast
caravan
of
trucks
rolling
through
squanton
in
order
to
reach
rhode,
island,
yeah
and
caused
you
know,
consternation
among
the
people
who
live
in
squanton
yeah.
So
I
I
think
that
if
there
was
a
project
that
could
go
forward
at
moon
island,
it
would
be
this
one.
A
D
The
city's
deployment
of
pv
is
being
done
through
its
renew
boston
trust
program.
Yeah.
That
program
is
an
energy
services
contract
that
we
have
with
honeywell
international,
and
it's
been
it's.
That
contract
was
awarded
pursuant
to
the
green
power.
The
green
communities
act.
I
should
say
that's
a
massachusetts
general
laws,
chapter
25a,
section
11i,
so
that
program
is
structured
really
as
a
master
agreement.
So
we
have
the
master
agreement
we've
just
completed.
In
fact,
the
array,
the
canopy
array
that
you
mentioned
that's
at
police
headquarters,
is
the
very
last
energy
conservation
measure.
D
D
There
was
an
array
installed
at
the
community
center
in
roslindale,
for
example,
another
one
of
the
first
projects
that
were
in
the
first
phase
of
the
new
boston
trust
we're
about
to
get
started
on
the
second
phase.
The
second
phase
will
be
approximately
19
million
dollars
and
then
a
third
phase
is
planned
as
well,
and
so,
whenever
we
complete
each
phase,
there's
an
assessment
of
you
know
which
buildings
are
suitable
for
solar
in
terms
of
the
age
of
the
roof,
because
you
know
we
certainly
don't
want
to
install
solar
on
a
roof.
D
A
And
one
thing
I
know
you
and
I
have
spoken
about
and
give
the
mayor
credit
for
his
leadership
and,
quite
frankly,
this
body
and
mandating
that
all
new
municipal
buildings
will
be
net
zero
carbon.
Obviously
we
are
going
to
have
to
get
to
a
point
to
retrofit
many
of
these
buildings.
I
know
that's
in
the
river
do
boston
report,
a
green
boston
report,
so
I
in
this
this
again
is
not
really
pertinent
to
this
particular
grant.
We
support
this
grant
everyone's
going
to
vote
for
this
grant.
A
This
is
a
great
grant,
but
well
we
have
you
here,
because
I
think
it's
such
important
work
has
there
been
sort
of
a
prioritization
of
other
city
buildings
in
terms
of
the
the
the
solar
capability.
You
know
you
know
I
I'm
thinking
of
the
west
roxbury
library,
for
example,
which
which
has
a
huge,
no
real
trees.
It
seems
it's
it's
sun
facing
it's,
it's
relatively
new,
it
was
renovated.
D
I
I
I
wouldn't
say
that
we
have
a
prioritization.
You
know
in
the
sense
that
we've
ranked
buildings
from
you
know
one
to
x,
yeah
in
terms
of
priority,
but
every
time
that
we
are
planning
each
phase
of
renew
boston,
trust
we're
looking
at
a
set
of
buildings-
and
you
know
when
we
assemble
and
and
there's
agreement
on
which
buildings
we're
going
to
move
ahead
with
in
a
phase
each
one
of
those
buildings
is
evaluated
as
worse
for
its
solar
potential.
D
I
will
tell
you
that
you
know.
In
the
past
the
city
has
come.
The
environment
department
has
commissioned
a
study
of
the
solar
potential
of
all
city
buildings,
and
that
was
notwithstanding,
which
ones
were
suitable
currently
for
solar.
It
was
just
you
know.
If,
if
we
could
put
solar
on
all
of
the
city's
risks,
how
much
could
we
install
and
it
turned
out
to
be
between
five
and
six
megawatts
worth
wow
yeah?
It
was
a
significant
amount,
yeah.
D
I
think
you
know
you
know,
for
reasons
that
you
understand
that
deployment
will
have
to
happen
over
time
because
we're
going
to
be
moving
ahead
with
those
facilities
that
have
newer
roofs.
There
are
some
buildings
that
need
roof
replacements
and,
as
I
said,
you
know,
renew
boston.
Trust
is
now
providing
the
city
with
a
vehicle
to
do
energy
to
do
both
energy
efficiency
and
renewable
energy,
primarily
solar,
on
an
ongoing
basis
and
in
a
systematic
way.
A
D
D
You
know
you
raise
the
the
you
know
the
point
about
shadowing
the
shot.
The
study
that
was
done
indicates
that
I
think
we're
going
to
be
able
to
put.
I
think
the
array
that's
playing
for
cindy
hall
is
40
kilowatts,
not
an
enormous
array.
You
know
my
direct
domestic
array.
I
don't
know
that
council
breed,
but
mine
is
a
small
one.
D
It's
about
eight
kilowatts,
so
you
know
think
the
average
domestic
installation
is
five
kilowatts,
so
it'll
be
equivalent
to
having
about
five
homes
worth
of
solar
on
top
of
city
hall,
but
it
will,
it
will
fit
into.
You
know
one
corner
of
the
roof:
the
one
corner:
that's
not
shaded
by
60
state
street
or
28
state
street.
Those
large
buildings
that
surround
city
hall,
yeah.
A
No,
it's
amazing.
How
not
only
is
the
technology
advancing
and
you're
seeing
smaller,
you
know
using
the
ability
to
create
more
power
with
sort
of
less
infrastructure,
but
the
cost.
I
don't
have
the
exact
figure.
I
should
have
googled
this
before
I
got
on,
but
I
want
to
say
that
the
cost
of
pv
infrastructure
has
decreased
dramatically
over
the
last
10
years.
E
A
Nodding
her
head,
so
maybe
maybe
that's
a
good
thing
that
I
I'll
stop
for
this
round
and
I'll,
throw
to
liz
braden
for
some
questions
and
her
expertise
as
well,
but
thank
you
joe
for
your
great
work
and
look
forward
to
voting
this
affirmatively
and
putting
it
before
the
council.
So
thank
you,
counselor.
Thank
you.
Councillor
braid.
B
Thank
you.
Oh,
this
is
exciting.
I'm
I'm
excited
to
hear
about
city
hall.
I
have
a
five
kilowatt
system
on
our
roof
so
and
it's
more
than
we
need.
We
have
two
apartments,
so
we
we
produce
all
our
electricity
and
we
donate
our
surplus
to
the
food
pantry
to
run
the
refrigerators
up
the
street.
That's
correct.
B
We
got
a
bigger
system
because
we
were
going
to
get
a
plug-in
electric
car.
I
have
a
hybrid
and
it
doesn't
draw
as
much
energy
as
I
had
expected.
So
you
mentioned
that
this
out
of
moon
island.
They
have
they're
going
to
have
a
thermal
silver
thermal
as
well
as
solar,
pv
that'll,
provide
nice
hot
water
for
everyone.
Is
that
how
it
works?
We
have
that
as
well.
So.
B
B
B
B
D
At
moon,
island
yeah,
I
think
you
know
the
project
budget
is-
is
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
You
know
I
I'll
be
a
candidate.
This
is
to
be
the
first
system
of
this
type
that
I've
installed,
but
I
would
think
that
the
design
cost
would
probably
be
on
the
order
of
15
to
20
percent
of
the
cost.
You
know
that's
a
fraction.
B
D
No,
the
storage
will
support
the
facility
in
the
case
of
a
power
outage.
You
know
in
the
event
of
a
power
outage,
and
it
could
also
be
used
to
support
the
load
in
the
building
and
and
so
that
it
could
be.
You
know
it
would
be
power
partially
powered
by
the
array
partially
powered
by
the
electric
grid,
so
it
would
allow
the
facility
to
be
supported
by
the
storage
rather
than
by
grid
supplied
electricity.
D
I
think
you
know
they
would
contribute
to
that
overall
contribution
from
the
storage,
but
those
smaller
arrays
would
not
really
be
able
to
support
a
facility,
the
size
of
the
moon,
island,
the
moon
island
academy.
For
very
long,
I
think
I
was
probably
correct
to
characterize
those
is
more
learning
based,
and
you
know
the
purpose
is
primarily
educational.
D
D
D
They
would
have
to
sell
those
wrecks
in
a
market
and
like
any
market.
Sometimes
it's
up
sometimes
it's
down,
and
it
was
hard
for
developers
who
were
taking
those
wrecks
to
really
sort
of
pencil
out
what
their
rate
of
return
was
going
to
be
if
part
of
their
revenue
depended
on
on
a
market
price
that
fluctuated.
D
The
wrecks,
however,
there
are
wrecks
that
are,
you
know,
continue
to
be
associated
with
the
power
produced
by
solar,
but
the
wrecks
under
the
smart
program
go
directly
to
the
local
distribution
companies
every
source
national
grid,
so
that
they
can
meet
their
renewable
ports
for
portfolio
standard
compliance
requirement.
Yeah
good.
I
tried
to
compress
that
down
no.
B
B
A
A
C
Thank
you,
matt.
Thank
you,
mr
larusso.
For
being
with
us,
I
know
you've
gone
over
some
of
the
the
city's
assets
that
we're
doing
the
solar
arrays.
Are
we
doing
the
same
with
bps
in
our
boston,
public
schools
facilities?
Because,
as
you
know,
we
have
over
100
school
buildings,
125
or
26
to
be
exact
and
many
of
them,
because
they're
old
were
built
on
higher
ground
sort
of
at
the
the
tops
of
hills,
and
I
think
they'd
be
a
a
great
resource
or
place
to
have
a
raise
placed.
D
So,
yes,
they
do
represent
a
really
valuable
opportunity
to
deploy
lots
more
solar
and
I'm
pleased
to
tell
you
that
although
schools
were
not
included
in
the
first
phase
or
the
second
phase
of
renew
boston
trust,
largely
because
there
were
studies
underway
at
bps
about
you
know,
changes
in
their
curriculum
and
changes
in
the
use
of
their
school
buildings,
and
so
on.
We
postpone
going
into
schools.
Schools
will
be
included
in
phase
three
of
renew
boston,
trust,
and
that
will
be
the
first
opportunity.
D
C
That's
great,
and
I
wonder
when
we
do.
We
do
often
redo
our
school
roofs
through
the
msba
funding
cycles.
So
I
don't
know
whether,
through
the
chair,
I
think
that
I
have
a
standing
hearing
order
on
build
bps
but
specific
to
some
of
the
the
needs,
the
environmental
needs
of
any
of
those
rebuilds
or
significant
renovations.
C
But
I
wonder
if,
through
our
when,
we
do
any
of
our
roof
projects,
that
there
could
be
an
opportunity
to
take
a
look
at
it
at
that
time,
especially
considering
that
there
may
be
some
proposals
for
new
roofs
between
between
now
and
early
2022..
So
I'll
make
a
mental
note
of
it
for
sure
I'll
make
actually
make
a
real
note
that
if
any
of
those
projects
come
before
us
at
the
city
council
that
we're
also
including
the
possibility
of
solar
on
the
solar
arrays
on
those
roofs
right.
F
F
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
questions.
To
be
honest,
I
just
show
up
because
it's
on
my
calendar
and
I'm
intrigued
by
this
conversation,
so
I'm
here
for
all
of
it
just
to
listen
and
learn.
So
I
don't
always
have
to
have
a
question
about
everything,
but
I
will
ask,
and
I'm
just
curious
about
the
vendors
that
are
used
for
this-
the
vendors
that
potentially
be
used
for
this
project.
What
pool
are
you
going
to
be
recruiting
from
how
many
will
be
from
you
know?
F
D
F
So
I
just
want
to
kind
of
pursue
that
line
of
thinking
is
a
little
bit
further
and
you
know
the
way
I
see
some
of
the
bids.
It
usually
goes
to
the
lowest
bidder
or
the
most
competitive
or,
however,
it
is
that
they
say,
and
that
usually
makes
it
really
difficult
for
smaller
businesses
who
to
compete
because
they
have
to
keep
their
doors
open
and
oftentimes.
F
And
maybe
maybe
this
is.
This
is
just
a
a
conversation
about
a
400
000
grand
I'm
talking
about
all
these
other
things.
But
I
think
all
these
things
are
interconnected
and
it's
just
important
to
plant
those
seeds
just
because
I
think
that
the
more
we
have
these
conversations,
the
more
we
might
be
able
to
get
to
a
place
where
communities
of
color
and
those
who
are
most
impacted
by
climate
change,
start
seeing
themselves
reflected
in
the
dialogue.
I
guess.
D
Sorry,
I
will
tell
you
that
you
know
our
department.
Individual
in
our
department
has
started
a
program
that
was
focused
on
workforce
development,
and
you
know
he
sort
of
marshaled
the
resources
to
and
made
established
relationships
with,
some
of
the
local
high
schools,
including
the
city's
high
schools
and
community
colleges,
in
order
to
address
this
issue,
to
make
certain
that
there
were
opportunities
for
those
folks
who
wanted
to
be
trained
so
that
they
could
enter
this
labor
market
and
it's
a
very
lucrative
labor
labor
market.
D
The
mass
clean
energy
center
annually
has
released
a
lot
of
data
regarding
the
clean
energy
sector
here
in
massachusetts,
and
I
and
among
the
information
that
they
published,
it
was
clear
that
the
salaries
that
are
paid
to
individuals
who
have
some
less
than
a
college
education
are
among
the
highest
for
the
for
those
categories
of
workers.
In
other
words,
individuals
who
had
you
know
about
two
years
of
college
or
a
high
school
degree
could
earn
what
in
massachusetts
would
be
a
fairly
good
living,
and
so
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a.
D
It
represents
a
true
opportunity
for
people
who
wish
to
you
know
get
into
the
clean
energy
sector,
and
we've
been,
you
know,
thought
I
think
you
know.
We've
been
trying
to
be
proactive
in
or
in
making
certain
that
there
are
opportunities
provided
to
people
who
want
to
enter
that
market
at
labor
market.
F
D
A
A
D
Well,
councillor
I
have
to
I
have
to
confess,
since
we're
in
a
public
forum
that
I'm
a
bigger
eater
than
I
am
a
big
chef
and
yeah.
Actually,
I
think
you
know
we've
all
been.
You
know
working
from
home
wfh,
but
I
think
that
in
my
case
that
afternoon
is
it's
gonna
be
more
like
weight
from
home,
because
it's
been
a
real,
been
a
real
effort
to
keep
the
weight
off.
A
E
Thank
you,
councilor
o'malley,
and
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
in
the
in
the
panel
for
being
here.
I
don't
have
anything
any
opening
statement,
but
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
my
colleagues
for
their
tremendous
work
on
on
on
these
on
these
issues
and
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
the
piano
as
well.
A
Thank
you
councillor
flynn,
great,
to
see
you
I'll
do
another
round
of
questions.
If
anyone
has
one,
I
I
guess
I
I
just
start
is
is
obviously
moon.
Island
is,
is
the
base
of
training
for
bfd,
but
many
other
municipalities
use
it
as
well.
I
think
14
was
the
number.
Is
that
correct?
That
is
correct,
council
and
do
they
do
do?
A
D
I
believe
that
it
does.
You
know
that
would
be
a
question
that
would
have
to
be
posed
to
the
fire
department.
Though
I
don't
know
I
I
you
know,
I
can't
say
for
certainty
that
I
know
you
know
whether
or
not
it's
a
revenue
generator
and
if
so,
how
much
that
revenue
might
be.
I
you
know
the
other
facility.
That's
at
moon
island
is
the
police
department's
shooting
range,
and
I
know
it's
the
same
situation
there.
D
E
A
I
will
be
asking
my
colleagues
for
approval
of
this
docket
at
our
next
or
the
next
hearing
or
the
next
council
meeting,
or
perhaps
one
after
that
and
look
forward
to
you
know.
Maybe
when
it's
done,
we
can
all
do
a
tour
and
write
the
council
out
to
take
a
look
at
it,
because
I'd
actually
be
really
interested
to
see
it
put
into
practice.
So
I
think
there
would
be
a
lot
of
interest
for
the
committee
to
do
that,
so
joseph
larusso,
thank
you.
A
I
would
assume
we
don't
have
any
public
testimony,
but
I
will
check
with
shane
any
individuals
signed
up
to
speak.
I
don't
see
I'm
not.
Oh,
no!
No
one
signed
up
for
testimony.
Okay,
terrific!
Well!
Thank
you
for
that,
and
thanks
to
central
staff
for
exceptional
work,
as
always
this
hearing
on.
Let
me
just
remind
myself
what
the
docket
is:
docket,
zero,
four
five
one.
The
hearing
of
the
council's
committee
on
environment,
sustainability
and
parks
by
virtue
of
my
meat
tenderizer,
is
hereby
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Everybody
great
thank
you
afternoon.