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Docket #0377 - Order for a hearing to discuss Boston’s electoral recount process
B
A
B
A
B
Yeah,
I
don't
think
it's
yeah,
that's
all
I
can
see
too.
I
don't
think
it's
it's
up
yet.
So
I
think
the
election
department
election
commissioner,
has
a
presentation.
Is
that
I
think
they're
gonna.
They
have
a
presentation,
but
she
can
only
stay
for
like
40
minutes
or
45
minutes.
B
So
do
you
want
to
try
to
get
get
as
much
info
get
as
much
testimony
from
her
before
we?
We
we
go
to
the
other
panelists.
What
do
you
think.
A
Yeah
so
neil
called
me
yesterday
and
asked
if
we
can
have
them
go
first:
okay,
you'll
have
to
keep
your
remarks
really
short.
Okay
and
I'm
just
gonna
introduce
you
know,
introduce
the
situation.
We're
not
we're
not
going
to
have
colleagues
do
remarks
until
after
the
presentation
so
that
we
can
dive
right
into
their
presentation.
C
Me
counselors,
yes,
yep
need
to
interrupt.
I'm
sorry,
do
you
have
the
presentation,
neil
didn't
send
it
to
me.
Do
you
have
it
I'll
I'll
text
neil
and
so
then
that
way
I
can
send
it
to
candice
and
I
can
send
it
to
all
of
the
counselors.
D
B
A
B
A
And
do
I
need
to
re,
I
I'm
going
to
read
the
public
testimony
that
sing
yang,
correct.
A
And
do
I
do
that
before
we
start
with
the
show
I
mean,
do
I
do
that
be
at
the
beginning,
or
do
I
do
that
after
yeah.
A
B
C
B
Yeah,
I'm
julia
yeah.
I
know
you're
gonna,
give
opening
comments.
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
withhold
mine
because
I'd
rather
get
right
into
the
testimony
of
the
the
piano
okay.
B
B
All
right
I'll
be
very
brief,
I'll
be
like
under
two
minutes.
A
A
Oh,
yes,
that's
right,
I'm
gonna
be
like
I'm
gonna,
be
like
back
up
in
here
all
right,
so
I
can't
I
can
never
tell
who's
on
this
pro
who's
on.
So
just
I,
I
wanna
make
sure
that
I
we're
not
live
yet.
Are
we
on
we're
on
the
is
there?
Could
everyone
hear
us?
Are
we
we're
not.
C
C
A
A
All
right,
so
how
do
we
let
tanya-
and
I
believe,
she's
trying
to
get
in
is,
could
someone
let
tanya
tedesco
in
or
do
I
need
to
do
that
jacob
and.
A
We
are
live
excellent,
so
I'm
going
to
see
who
is,
I
believe
our
panelists
are
tony
todesco,
inet,
tavares,
sabino,
pimante
and
sherman
crawford.
Those
are
our
four
panelists
and
if
someone
could
just
give
me
a
word
as
to
whether
or
not
they're
here
I
see
tanya's
in
the
house,
hey,
I
don't
see,
commissioner,
tavares.
A
Okay,
clean
your
screens,
yep,
that's
right!
Tanya!
You
know
about
backdrops
the
sunlight,
perfect.
You
could
tell
that
tanya
and
I
go
way
back.
She
it's
all
about
the
setting
flynn.
You
look
you're
ready
to
go
all
right.
A
That's
right
flynn,
because
if
you're,
not
camera
ready
we're
not
doing
this,
okay,
it's
all
about
the
backdrops
and
then
the
other
thing
too,
is
if
neil
or
christine,
if
we
can
just
let
commissioner
tavares
know
that
we
are
almost
we'd
like
to
get
started
and
hopefully
they
can
join
us.
I'm
going
to
start
reading
the
opening
comments
until
she
arrives,
so
that
we
can
be
super
mindful
of
people's
time,
so
I
am
going
to
go
ahead
and
get
started.
A
So
everyone
knows
that
I
have
a
bootleg
gabble
here,
I'm
gathering
us
in
good
morning,
everyone.
I
am
city
councilor
at
large,
julia
mejia,
the
chair
of
the
committee
of
civil
rights,
it's
thursday
september,
the
10th
2020
and
we're
here
today
for
a
virtual
hearing
on
docket
0377
order
for
a
hearing
to
discuss
boston's
electoral
recount
process.
A
A
The
city
council
will
be
conducting
this
hearing
virtually
via
zoom.
This
enables
the
city
council
to
carry
on
its
responsibilities
while
adhering
to
public
health,
accommodations
and
ensuring
public
access
to
its
deliberations
through
adequate
alternative
means.
The
public
may
watch
this
meeting
via
live
stream
at
www.boston.gov
city
council
dash
tv.
A
It
will
also
be
rebroadcasted
at
a
later
date
on
comcast
8,
rcn,
82
verizon
1964.
for
public
testimony.
Written
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee.
Email
cc,
dot
civil
rights
at
boston.gov
and
will
be
and
will
may
it
will
be
made
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors
joining
us
for
from
the
administration
is
annette.
Tavares
and
sabino
pimante
from
the
boston
elections
department
and
also
participating
from
mass
vote
is
cheryl
crawford,
executive
director
and
tania
tedesco,
who
managed
and
led
the
recount
efforts
for
the
julia
for
boston
campaign.
A
I'm
also
joined
by
my
colleagues
ed
flynn,
from
district
2
liz
breden
from
district
nine.
We
also
have
received
written
testimony
from
today's
hearing
from
alejandra
senki.
A
I
will
now
turn
over
to
the
sponsors
of
this
hearing
order
ed
flynn
for
opening
very
brief
remarks,
and
then
I
will
read
into
the
testimony
the
written
testimony
that
we
received
from
alejandra
senki
yang
and
then
we'll
turn
it
over
to
commissioner
tavares
and
her
team
counselor
flynn.
You
now
have
the
floor.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
mejia.
Thank
you
for
sharing
this
important
hearing
into
the
pianist
for
being
here
as
well.
I
filed
this
hearing
order
to
start
a
discussion
on
how
to
improve
the
current
recount
process
and
whether
there
should
be
an
automatic
recount
if
the
margin
of
votes
is
under
a
certain
threshold
right
now.
B
Getting
an
accurate
count
of
the
vote
is
critical
part
of
our
elections.
We
have
had
very
close
elections
in
the
past.
I
think
the
city
has
the
responsibility
to
provide
an
accurate
count,
which
they
do
of
all
the
votes
that
and
we
shouldn't
be
dependent
on
having
the
candidates
getting
enough
signatures
after
an
election
as
we
prepare
for
future
elections,
I
hope
that
we
can
have
a
discussion
on
what
the
city
can
do
to
update
its
recount
process
and
whether
we
can't
have
an
automatic
recount
if
the
margin
is
of
a
certain
threshold.
B
Again,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
pianos
for
being
here.
Thank
you
to
commissioner
tavares
for
your
work
on
election
issues
and
to
the
other
panelists
as
well
cheryl
crawford
in
in
tanya,
and
I
want
to
thank
city,
council,
central
staff
and
my
colleagues
thank
you.
Councilman
here.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
counselor
flynn,
and
I
just
wanted
to
note
that,
after
a
traumatic
one
vote
win.
A
A
And
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
did
not
say
what
an
incredible
job
tanya
tedesco
did
in
getting
us
to
the
to
the
finish
line,
and
we
wouldn't
not
be
here
today,
if
it
wouldn't
have
been
for
the
heroic
efforts
of
that
squad
and
the
leadership
that
it
took
and-
and
I
would
have
to
say
the
grits
and
perseverance
that
the
entire
village
had
to
getting
as
their
my
fingertips
were
literally
frozen
on
november,
the
coldest
night
of
of
the
of
the
year,
the
first
coldest
night
of
the
year
I
remember
being
in.
A
I
think
it
was
ward
12.
12.
My
fingertips
were
literally
frozen
and
we
still
had
to
collect
x
amount
of
signatures
just
to
make
sure
that
we
had
all
of
those
signatures
collected.
Just
so
that
we
can
get
permission
to
do
the
recount,
and
I
say
this
because
50
signatures
per
ward
is
a
lot
more
than
you
would
have
to
do
just
to
get
on
the
ballot.
A
A
So,
looking
forward
to
the
conversation
I
would
like
to
in
the
interest
of
time-
because
I
know
commissioner,
tavares
you
need
to
leave
a
little
bit
earlier-
would
love
for
you
to
start
with
your
testimony,
give
my
colleagues
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
then
read
into
the
record
alejandra
saint-geans
testimony
before
we
move
on
to
the
next
panelist.
G
Good
morning
and
thank
you
for
holding
this
hearing
today,
as
you
previously
mentioned,
in
order
to
trigger
a
recount
for
a
municipal
election,
it
requires
that
a
candidate
petitions
the
board
and
you
because
it
is
a
city-wide
office
city,
right
race.
It
required
50
signatures
for
each
board
and
right
now
as
it
stands.
This
would
require
it's
not
an
administrative
process.
It's
something
that's
written
in
the
charted
charter
and
the
legislation,
so
it
would
require
legislative
changes
in
order
for
us
to
adjust
process
for
how
a
recount
is
conducted
in
the
city
of
boston,.
D
A
G
Was
a
huge
process
it
was
it
was.
It
was
an
amazing
experience
as
an
election
commissioner,
you
don't
really
get
the
opportunity
to
oversee
a
city-wide
recount,
especially
the
largest
municipality
in
the
commonwealth,
so
it
was
a
pretty
amazing
experience
and
the
turnout
was
even
more
impressive.
So
there
was
a
lot
of
efforts
and
a
lot
of
resources
that
went
in
to
us
conducting
that
recount.
G
So
I
think
administratively
from
our
process.
It
went
well
so,
however,
however,
the
recount
is
triggered
in
the
end.
I
think
we
would
follow
the
same
process
we
did,
but
I
think
right
now
we're
discussing
how
how
one
would
be
triggered
and
in
order
to
trigger
a
recount,
it
would
require
just
that.
You
know
the
signatures
from
50
registered
voters
in
each
district.
G
So
that's
the
piece
where
would
require
the
legislative
changes?
We
can
handle
everything
else
after
that,
but
unless
the
law
changes
to
allow
us
to
conduct
it
in
another
way,
our
hands
are
pretty
much
tied.
Okay,.
A
So
I
I
appreciate
that
you
know,
and
just
because
I'm
always
changing
the
rules
and
how
we
do
business
and
city
government.
I'm
gonna
do
things
a
little
bit
different
this
time
flynn.
Don't
worry,
I'm
not
gonna
get
us
into
any
trouble,
but
I
am
going
to
open
up
this
conversation
and
allow
some
of
our
panelists
to
also
be
engaged
in
the
q
a
portion.
A
Often
it's
just
my
colleagues
and
I
think
that,
if
we're
really
going
to
have
a
robust
conversation,
it
really
needs
to
include
the
voices
of
the
people
who
are
living
the
realities.
So
I'm
sure
tania,
tedesco
and
sheryl
crawford
may
have
some
questions
or
even
comments.
That
will
be
helpful
to
you,
commissioner.
Tavares,
as
you
continue
to
to
go
along
on
this
journey,
so
counselor
flynn
do
you.
A
I
know
that
time
is
short,
but
I
think
I'd
like
to
open
it
up
for
questions
and
comments
from
our
colleagues
as
well
as
some
of
the
panelists
that
are
here
today
is
that
okay.
A
So
making
it
up
as
we
go
yeah
so
we'll
start
with
you
counselor
flynn,
and
then
I'm
gonna
go
over
to
counselor
breeden
for
brief
opening
statements
and
some
questions
and
comments.
Council
flynn.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council,
commissioner.
If,
if
we
didn't
have
to
go
to
the
state
house
to
seek
changes,
if
we
could
do
it
administratively
here
in
boston,
what
what
would
you
recommend
us
to
do
in
terms
of
automatic
recount.
G
I'm
I
wouldn't
make
a
recommendation
in
terms
of
what
you
should
do.
It
would
have
to
be
in
line
with
whatever
the
law
suggests
that
we
says
either
it's
the
threshold
that
you
previously
mentioned,
which
is
how
a
statewide
recount
is
triggered,
is
based
on
a
certain
threshold.
G
B
Okay,
so
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
ask
if
you
know
if
we
were
to
send
something
to
the
state
house
and
we
we
are
asking
for
an
automatic
recount.
Is
there
a
certain
threshold
that
you
would
recommend
how
many
votes
that
separates
one
from
two
or
or
a
percent.
G
Yep,
I
would
follow
the
guidelines
that
they
use
now
for
the
state's
recount,
which
is,
I
believe,
one
half
of
one
percent.
B
Okay,
that's
that,
okay,
that
one
half
of
one
percent
and
in
the
case
of
the
council
mejia
in
in
zenki-
and
that
would
be
that
would
fall
under
that
in
that
scenario,
is
that
correct.
F
B
B
So
I
know
we'd
have
to
work
closely
with
government
operations,
but
maybe
I
can
listen
to
some
of
the
panelists
and
and
get
some
of
their
recommendations
as
well.
But
I
I
just
agree
with
council
mejia
in
in
alejandra
sankey
and
it's
after
after
an
election
and
after
you've
worked
so
hard
and
your
volunteers
are
burnt
out
and
the
candidate
is
burnt
out,
and
you
really
don't
know.
B
If
you
want
to
lost
in
the
then
you
have
to
start
the
process
of
raising
money,
and
then
you
have
to
start
the
process
of
gathering
signatures,
getting
volunteers
going
out
getting
them
certified,
bringing
them
back
in
that's
a
very
difficult
process,
especially
you
know,
you're
heading
into
mid-november
and
it's
cold
out,
as
councilman
here
mentioned.
I
just
want
to
make
it
easier
for
a
candidate
to
go
out
in
in
in
and
have
an
accurate
count
without
going
through
that
that
cumbersome
process.
G
B
G
Sorry
go
ahead
that
would
eliminate
one
step
in
the
process
for
us
having
to
certify
all
those
signatures,
because
once
they're
turned
in
then
our
staff
here
who
have
also
been
drained
from
having
to
conduct
a
election,
are
now
having
to
certify
all
these
signatures.
B
A
H
Thank
you
very
much
kazumi
here.
Thank
you,
councillor
flynn,
for
bringing
this
very
important
pro
subject
up
for
discussion
today.
In
our
hearing
it
really
seems
that
the
barriers
to
conduct
a
recount
are
pretty
onerous
on
candidates
in
in
the
city
of
boston,
and
I
would
really
like
to
see
us
go
to
the
statewide
threshold
of
an
automatic
recount
within
half
of
one
percent
of
half
of
one
percent
which
was
just
mentioned,
so
I
don't
have
any
questions
at
this
moment.
H
I
I
look
forward
to
perhaps
finding
a
logical
and
easy
and
not
not
that
anything's
easy,
but
a
logical
step
that
we
can
take
to
amend
this
situation
without
without
too
many
obstacles.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
hearing
that.
I
look
forward
to
the
discussion.
Thank
you.
A
D
And
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
everyone
who's
here
this
morning.
I
look
forward
to
the
discussion.
I
think
that
discussing
and
exploring
the
automatic
recount
is
certainly,
I
think,
the
direction
that
we
should
be
heading
in
for
the
city
of
boston
but
appreciate
everyone's
attendance
and
attention
to
this
matter
and
look
forward
to
the
discussion
ahead.
Thanks.
Madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
maker
council
flynn.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
counselor
sabi,
george
commission.
I
was
about
to
promote
you,
commissioner,
give
you
the
counselor
title,
but
I
would
love
to
create
an
opportunity
for
us
to
have
a
conversation,
and
I
think
that
those
who
were
behind
the
scenes
doing
the
work
are
a
really
crucial
part
in
terms
of
helping
to
inform
the
process
somewhat.
So
I'd
love
to
create
an
opportunity.
A
I
know
tanya
you're
coming
in
as
a
panelist,
but
while
we
have
commissioner
tavares
here
would
love
an
opportunity
to
give
you
the
floor
to
you
know,
share
any
thoughts
or
questions
that
you
may
have
about
the
process
before
we.
We
dive
into
your
testimony.
G
I
think
it's
just
what
I
said
previously,
I
think,
eliminating
the
signature
piece,
I
think,
would
alleviate
a
step
in
the
process
for
us,
because,
again
once
those
signatures
are
certified,
it's
just
like
you're
originally
running
for
office.
We
still
have
to
go
over
each
signature,
one
by
one
and
make
sure
it
matches
in
our
database
in
order
to
be
able
to
certify
it.
So
that
would
be
one
step
in
the
process
that
we
would
just
be
able
to
eliminate
all
together.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
I'm
going
to
have
tanya
tedesco
just
offer
some
questions.
If
you
don't
mind
and
having
gone
through
the
process,
tanya,
I'm
just
curious.
If
you
had
any
questions
or
recommendations
for
commissioner
tavares,
because
I
know
we're
going
to
lose
her
in
a
little
bit.
So
I
just
wanted
to
seize
this
moment,
while
you're
here
tanya.
F
F
I
have
some
friends
that
did
congressional
races
and
I
believe
that
the
threshold
for
them
was
250
from
anywhere
in
the
district,
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
the
signature
requirement
is
also
a
legislative
issue
that
has
to
be
fixed
or,
if
that,
even
if
we
can't
fix
the
recount
threshold
faster
if
the
city
has
the
ability,
I
can't
believe
we
have
to
ask
the
state
for
permission,
but
that's
this
whole
separate
issue.
Do
you
understand
my
question?
Yeah.
G
No,
we
did.
We
didn't
set
that
threshold.
I
believe
that's
how
it's
written
in
the
charter
as
well,
so
that
would
still
have
to
be
like
a
legislative
change.
F
A
Yeah,
I
agree
thank
you
for
that
and
I'm
wondering
if
anyone
else
had
any
questions
specifically
for
commissioner
tavares
that
we
can
bring
into
the
floor.
I
would
like
to
say
that
commissioner
tavares,
I
was
really
impressed
with
how
what
an
amazing
job
your
team
did
at
getting
us
through
the
whole
entire
process
like
whenever
we
had
a
question
about
signatures
or
how
many
and
you
know
we
were
clear
on
that.
A
But
there
were
some
things
that
were
sometimes
a
little
bit
fuzzy
for
us,
but
your
your
team
was
always
really
quick
to
to
respond
to
our
questions.
We
were
able
to
get
those
signatures
certified
in
a
really
in
a
timely
manner,
so
we
actually
ended
up
delivering
more
signatures
than
we
needed
just
in
case,
because
there
were
might
have
been
a
few
here
that
were
off,
but
I
just
and
then
just
the
whole
entire
process
from
beginning
to
end
counting.
A
I
think
one
of
the
things
that-
and
I
know
we're
talking
specifically
just
about
signatures,
but
I
also
am
just
curious
about
the
staffing
and
the
manpower
during
the
recounts,
counselor
flynn,
I'm
not
sure
if
that
is
part
of
you
know,
if
you're
wanting
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
But
I
would
like
to
make
an
observation
that
it
was
a
it
took
a
lot
of
staffing
to
accommodate
a
three-day
recount,
and
so
I'm
just
curious,
commissioner.
A
Tavares
if
you
could
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
just
the
the
manpower
that
it
took
during
those
three
days
to
get
the
operation
up
and
running
and
then
just
what
are
some
of
the
things
that
you
some
lessons
that
you've
learned
from
that
that
you
would
like
to
in
the
event.
God
forbid.
This
were
to
happen
again
and
considering
the
state
of
affairs.
We
should
be
prepared
for
anything
at
this
point.
A
G
Do
this
effectively,
I
would
say,
all
in
all,
the
recount
went
extremely
extremely
well,
I
think,
typically,
most
people
or
most
municipalities
will
use
a
large
space,
such
as
the
gym
to
conduct
a
recount.
However,
we
were
fortunate
enough
to
find
space
here
within
the
building
that
allowed
for
us
to
keep
all
of
our
ballots
secured.
We
didn't
have
to
transport
it
someplace
else,
and
then
transport
things
back
and
forth.
G
So
we
really
sat
down
and
thought
about
this
process
and
how
it
was
going
to
look
before
we
executed,
because
that
was
a
big
concern
for
us
was
having
to
remove
ballots
out
of
city
hall
and
then,
if
we
weren't
done
with
a
recount
within
that
day
or
two,
where
would
we
then
secure
those
ballots?
We
then
have
to
transport
them
back
to
city
hall
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
I
think
our
ability
to
keep
it
here
at
city
hall
worked
really
really
well.
We
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
co-workers.
G
Our
co-workers
are
great.
We
were
able
to
bring
a
lot
of
them
in
because
these
were
individuals
that
were
very
familiar
with
the
process
of
counseling
ballots
and
that's
who
we
use,
along
with
our
staff,
to
come
in
and
help
count
the
ballots
which
made
for
a
very
efficient
process.
A
Yeah,
I
would
agree,
I
do
have
another
question
in
terms
of,
and
there
were
there
was
there
were
times
when
in
terms
of
like,
did
you
guys?
Were
you
able
to
provide
a
full
training
for
people
to
help
decipher
the
ballots?
Did
you
did
you?
Did
you.
G
We
had
them
come
in
in
advance
and
we
went
over
everything
with
the
with
our
accounting
team,
our
readers
and
our
recorders.
So
we
had
them
come
in
about
an
hour
early
and
we
gave
them
an
overview
of
what
the
date
was
going
to
look
like,
and
what
to
look
for.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
I'm
going
to
before
you,
commissioner,
tavares.
I
know
you
you're
short
on
time,
but
I'd
love
to
open
up
the
floor
and
have
tanya
do
her
opening
testimony
remarks
and
then
before
you
leave.
If
you
have
any
reflections
that
you'd
like
to
share,
that
would
be
great.
So
I'd
like
to
pass
over
the
floor
back
to
tanya.
F
I
actually
can
I
ask
a
question
first,
so
this
is
for
commissioner
tavares.
The
securing
of
the
ballots
was
overseen
by
the
bpd
and
I'm
wondering
and
I'm
not
expecting
an
answer,
but
I'm
assuming
watching
that
whole
process.
That
component
of
it
was
extremely
expensive
for
the
city
and
I'm
wondering
if
any
like
the.
F
If
it
needs
to
be
the
bpd
or
if
poll
workers
or
other
staff
or
other
people
can
do
that
or
if
it's
like
a
security
risk
that
people
are
going
to,
like
literally
like
run
off
with
ballots,
I'm
not
being
facetious
like
I'm
just
curious
as
to
why
the
bpd
supervising
and
so
many
versus
election
staff
and
poll
workers.
G
We
use
a
variety
of
people,
but
having
bpd
right
on
site
the
the
night
of
the
election
when
we
realized
that
the
margin
was
so
close.
We
had
a
detailed
place
outside
of
that
default
and
I
think
it
just
helped
to
assure
people
that
we
were
you
know
taking
this
very
seriously
and
that
nothing
had
been
tampered
with.
No
one
had
been
in
that
vault
and
had
access
to
those
ballots.
G
I
don't
think
there's
no
requirement
that
it
is
a
police
officer,
but
I
think,
having
the
officer
there
just
ensured
that
we
had
a
very
secure
process
we
can
in
the.
G
If
it's
a
security
thing
we
can,
in
the
future,
look
to
have
our
maybe
municipal
services
officers,
who
also
helped
in
the
process
of
bringing
balance
back
and
forth,
and
typically
we
do
use
our
police
officers
to
help
maintain
chain
of
custody
even
on
election
day
they're,
the
ones
who
are
responsible
for
transporting
all
of
our
ballots
to
the
precincts
and
they're
the
ones
who
are
responsible
for
bringing
them
back
to
city
hall.
So
at
the
moment
it
made
more
sense
to
have
the
police
officer
secure
our
vault
as
well.
F
Yeah,
I
was
more
wondering
the
three
days
of
the
recounts
it
felt
like,
and
maybe
they
were
municipal
officers
and
I
couldn't
differentiate
because
I
was
tired.
There
was
like
at
every
cross
point.
There
was
an
officer
and
we,
many
of
us
were
just
observing
how
expensive
that
component
of
it,
on
top
of
everything
else,
must
have
been
for
the
city.
G
A
Thank
you.
I
love
how
physically
responsible
tania
is
being
and-
and
I
really
do
appreciate
those
those
questions
but
tanya.
I
would
love
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
share
your
remarks
and
that
so
my
colleagues
and
I
can
ask
some
questions.
F
F
The
recount
was,
as
councilor
mejia
has
said,
traumatic
and
exhausting,
especially
for
a
and
I'm
sure,
alejandra
sankey
and
his
team
would
feel
the
same
way
because
we
were
both
challengers,
especially
for
challengers,
that
had
already
utilized
and
exhausted
our
networks,
our
resources,
our
time,
the
burden,
well,
the
the
not
knowing
at
first
on
election
night,
but
the
burden
of
the
recount.
F
F
For
me,
one
of
the
main
concerns
is
the
not
just
the
number,
but
that
every
district
I
mean
every
precinct
and
ward,
but
every
word
has
to
be
represented,
especially
given
how
segregated
boston
is.
There's
not
a
lot
of.
F
Networking
built
in
for
a
lot
of
people,
and
especially
for
candidates
such
as
julia,
where
we
had
to
make
inroads
in
communities
that
were
unfamiliar
with
her
to
find
volunteers
in
every
single
ward.
F
F
But
the
threshold
to
match
the
statewide
and
to
put
the
number
of
signatures
in
line
with
what
either
statewide
or
federal
candidates
have
to
do
seems
like
it
removes
the
burden
from
the
candidates
and
their
campaigns
in
a
pretty
significant
way
to
reduce
it
down
to
250
from
anywhere
in
the
city
would
have
taken
us
a
half
a
day
instead
of
days
and
days,
and
we
were
verifying
signatures
on
our
own
and
I
felt
terrible
for
the
commission
when
we
walked
in
behind
alejandra's
team.
F
They
threw
down
2000
signatures,
and
then
we
threw
down
2
000
signatures
like
they
had
already
counted.
They'd
already
been
running
the
ballots,
so
if
everybody,
if
each
candidate
only
had
to
bring
in
say
350
to
ensure
that
there's
no
erroneous
signatures,
I
assume
that
would
only
take
a
few
people
at
the
commissioner's
office,
a
few
hours
versus
what
had
to
have
taken
days.
The
actual
process
of
the
recount.
F
I
mean
there's
issues
in
that,
but
I
don't
know
that
there's
an
easy
solution
to
make
it
less
burdensome
on
candidates,
but
as
far
as
the
recount,
those
are
the
two
things,
and
I
know
that
counselor
edwards
is
already
looking
at
revising
the
charter
for
some
other
issues.
And
if
this
is
a
charter
issue,
then
maybe
we
just
redo
the
entire
charter.
Let's
start
over.
F
That's
all
and
thank
you
all
and
you're,
and
I
just
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
sabino,
because
he
was
amazing.
A
Yeah
yes,
power
to
sabino,
he
was.
He
has
been
incredibly
generous
with
his
time
from
the
moment.
We
even
decided
to
run
so
you're.
You
have
an
amazing
team,
commissioner
tavares
and
you
should
feel
very
proud.
I
know
this
was
you
had
just
started
in
your
role
and
to
have
this
be
your
first
big
thing
to
do
as
a
commissioner.
A
I
just
want
to
just
give
you
like
amazing
props,
and
I
want
to
also
thank
the
administration
for
making
sure
that
you
show
that
you
were
able
to
participate
in
today's
hearing,
because
what
I
believe
is
that
public
hearings
create
an
opportunity
for
people
to
who
have
diverse
experiences
and
and
beliefs
to
really
come
together
and
and
get
to
the
bottom
of
an
issue
and
and
work
collectively,
so
that
everybody
can
walk
away
feeling
heard
and,
more
importantly,
what
we
hear
here
helps
inform
how
we
can
better
support
our
constituents
and
our
city
employees.
A
So
with
that
I'd
love,
I'm
just
going
to
read
alejandra
st
yang's
testimony,
and
then
I'm
going
to
ask
my
colleagues
if
they
have
questions
for
tanya
before
we
move
on.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
commissioner
tavares
you're
here
for
to
hear
alejandro
saying,
gigan's
testimony
okay,
so
this
testimony
is
written
by
alejandra,
seng
yang.
It
says
dear
counselor
flynn,
chairwoman,
counselor
mejia
and
honorable
members
of
the
boston
city
council.
A
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
testimony
on
docket
0377
in
order
for
a
hearing
to
discuss
boston's
electoral
recount
process
having
most
recently
experienced
the
recount
process
along
side,
councilor
mejia.
I
fully
appreciate
the
necessity
to
establish
a
more
efficient
recount
process
for
municipal
elections.
As
all
of
you
know,
campaigning
is
both
a
grueling
and
very
expensive
process.
A
I've
had
I
had
been
on
the
campaign
trail
for
11
months.
When
the
general
election
took
place,
every
candidate
is
prepared
to
either
be
victorious
or
not
on
election
night.
Well,
we
were
not.
What
we
were
not
prepared
for
is
to
launch
another
campaign
immediately
following
the
election
aside
from
the
deep
emotional
toll
it
takes
on
someone
who
has
already
sacrificed
so
much
of
their
in
pursuit
of
the
elected
office,
it's
also
an
extremely
confusing
time,
as
one
does
not
generally
prepare
ahead
of
time
for
a
recount.
A
A
However,
taking
the
burden
from
the
candidates
to
collect
thousands
of
signatures
is
beneficial
to
both
of
them,
and
our
democracy
with
an
automatic
recount
the
process
can
happen,
can
happen
much
sooner
after
the
general
election,
which
is
a
benefit
for
many
reasons.
First,
candidates
can
spend
that
time,
recruiting
recount
volunteers
and
preparing
for
the
actual
recount
instead
of
focusing
on
signature
collection,
should
a
candidate
decide
to
engage
in
a
in
a
court
process
prior
to
conceding
they
can
do
so
without
significantly
delaying
the
transition
process.
A
A
In
the
past
decade,
we
have
seen
a
huge
shift
on
the
boston
city
council,
with
open
seats
at
both
with
open
seats
at
both
the
mayoral
and
city
council
level,
incumbent
challengers
and
more
engaged
electoral.
Our
democracy
has
been
more
engaged
more
energized
and
we
are
likely
to
see
that
continue
in
the
future.
A
The
talent
bench
within
the
city
of
boston
is
deep,
which
makes
the
chances
of
a
close
election
of
close
elections
even
more
inevitable.
I
do
not
think
the
2019
city
councilor
at
large
election
was
a
fluke
but
an
indicator.
What
is
to
come
in
future
years?
Therefore,
it
is
incumbent
upon
the
city
to
prepare
for
these
close
races
in
a
matter
that
is
fair
and
equitable
to
the
candidates
and
the
voters.
A
Thank
you
again
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
this
testimony
and
with
that
I
I'd
like
to
ensure
that
we
acknowledge
that
it
was
definitely
a
close
race
and
it
was
down
to
the
wire,
and
I
think
it
was
also
an
opportunity
to
help
people
understand
how
important
their
vote
is
and
why
every
vote
mattered
and
going
through
this
process
was
a
teachable
moment
in
many
ways,
and
I
think
it
really
was
a
lesson
for
all
of
us
to
learn,
and
my
hope
is
is
that,
as
we
continue
to
move
forward,
we
because
it's
going
to
happen
again,
I'm
sorry
to
say
we
just
have
to
be
prepared
for
it
in
a
way
that
is
going
to
benefit
and
and
support
the
process.
A
And
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
give
a
big
shout
out
to
all
of
our
volunteers
on
both
camps
who,
who
dedicated
their
time
and
energy,
to
collect
signatures
and
then
spend
three
days
on
the
floor,
recounting
a
big
shout
out
to
everyone
who
did
that
before
we
move
on
and
lose.
Commissioner,
tavares
just
wanted
to
know
if
you
had
any
closing
remarks,
questions
or
comments
that
you'd
like
to
know.
G
I
just
want
to
thank
both
you
and
counselor
flynn
for
holding
this
hearing,
and
I
look
forward
to
what
the
future
process
of
us
conducting
a
recount
looks
like.
So
thank
you
both
for
the
opportunity.
G
A
B
No,
I
don't
have
any
questions
for
tanya.
I
know,
commissioner,
tavares
is
leaving,
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
commissioner
and
her
dedicated
team
employees
at
the
election
department.
B
Thank
you
for
being
here
looking
forward
to
working
with
you,
and
I
think
what
we
want
to
try
to
do
is
make
it
easier
for
future
candidates,
but
also
for
the
election
department
itself
in
streamlining
the
process,
because,
as
council
me
he
had
mentioned,
this
is
going
to
happen
again
whether
it
happens
next
year
or
it
happens
in
five
years.
The
likelihood
will
be
that
it
will
take
place
and
we
just
want
to
try
to
be
proactive
and
and
come
up
with
the
recommendation
or
some
plans
on
how
we
can
improve
improve
it.
H
I
don't
have
any
questions.
I
think
the
next
step
really
is
to
explore
how
we
can
get
go
to
an
automatic
recount,
and
I
think
that
maybe
lives
in
the
charter
and
hopefully
in
the
company
process,
that
counselor
edwards
is
leading
that
we
can
discuss
that
possibility
in
relation
to
renewing
or
changing
the
charter.
So
thank
you
so
much
and
thank
you
for
all
the
people
who
are
participating
this
morning
and
thank
you,
commissioner,
tavares.
A
Okay,
all
right,
so
I
would
I
I
am
not
one
to
hold
anyone
hostage
for
the
sake
of
holding
people
hostage.
I
think
that
that
is
really
unfair.
I
would
love
to
counselor
flynn
as
the
sponsor
of
this
particular
hearing.
I
just
wanted
to
personally
thank
you
for
bringing
it
to
the
forefront
and
giving
us
an
opportunity
to
to
hear
this
matter,
and
I
would
love
to
see
if
anyone
else
has
any
closing
remarks.
I
don't
see
sheryl
crawford
here
so
not
sure.
A
If
she's
going
to
be
able
to
join
us-
and
I
I
was
warned-
that's
going
to
be
no
matter
how
traumatic
it
was
I
was
warned.
This
is
going
to
be
a
short
hearing,
so
I
wanted
to
just
honor
the
time
that
we
have
together
and
counselor
flynn
and
just
curious
if
you
wanted
to
end
with
some
closing
remarks
and
give
our
panelists
an
opportunity
to
do
so.
B
B
Thank
you
for
her
testimony
as
well
and
as
councillor
braden
mentioned
you
know,
maybe
we
should
call
for
a
working
session,
maybe
a
recommendation
to
have
a
working
session
and
talk
to
council
edwards
about
her
recommendation
on
how
we
can
move
forward
on
seeing
how
we
can
either
approach
legislative
leaders
or
continue
to
get
more
testimony
on
some
some
of
the
obstacles
we
might
have
going
forward.
But
I
think
the
next
step
would
probably
to
have
a
working
session
and
to
discuss
this
in
in
further
detail.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I've
just
been
advised
that
we
have
been
joined
by
maria
parrell
and
she's
in
there,
and
I
see
that
she
you
want
me
to
call
on
her.
So
I'm
calling
on
you,
maria
and
I
have
the
floor.
I
Good
morning
counselor
I
just
wanted
to
to
join
and
and
hear.
I
know
it
was
a
brutal
campaign
I
saw
you
know
I
learned
to
what
the
process
was,
as
I
didn't
know,
so
it
was
it's
definitely
something
I'm
excited
that
you've
brought
forward
to
make
some
change
and
I'm
interested
in
supporting
any
way
I
can
and
just
like
to
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
the
process.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
joining
us.
I
would
like
to
have
an
opportunity
for
tanya
for
any
closing
remarks
that
you
may
have.
A
And
if
anyone,
if
anyone
knows
me,
you
know
that
I'm
about
leading
with
the
people
who
are
living
the
realities-
and
I
don't
know
who
lived
this
reality
more
than
tanya
so
in
many
ways:
tanya
whatever
whatever
comes
out
of
this,
it
should
be
named
after
you
tanya's
law,
just
because
you
literally
lived
this,
and
it's
just
I'm
incredibly
grateful
to
you
and
everything
that
you
did
to
get
us
here.
So
thank
you,
and
so
I
I
think,
counselor
flynn.
At
this
point
I
am
going
to
end.
A
I
think
this
is
the
shortest
hearing
in
the
history
of
of
my
tenure
here,
but
it's
the
most
important
one
just
to
make
that
known
on
the
record
that
this
is
the
one
that
I've
been
waiting
for
and
so
really
looking
forward
to.
I
think
it's
a
great
recommendation
to
turn
this
into
a
working
session
to
follow
up
with
counselor
edwards
so
that
we
can
really
revisit
the
city
charter
and
change
the
system
so
that
it's
easier
for
folks
marie.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
A
So
much
for
joining
us,
it's
great
to
have
you
here
and
I
think
at
this
point
I'm
going
to.
Let
me
just
go
back
and
read
my
script,
making
sure
that
I
didn't
forget
any
legalities,
as
I
gather
us
away
from
this
hearing.
A
So
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
for
participating
in
the
q,
a
portion
it
doesn't
seem
like
we
have
anyone
waiting
in
the
public
testimony
and
I
would
like
to
move
into
closing
remarks
which
we've
already
heard
from,
and
I
think
we're
now
so
we
are
going
to
say
that
this
hearing
is
adjourned.
Thank
you.
So
much
gabbling
us
out.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
bye,
y'all.