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From YouTube: Committee on Government Operations on September 20, 2021
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Docket #0859, Petition for a special law re: An Act Directing the City of Boston Police Department to Waive the Maximum Age Requirement for Police Officers for Daniel Flores; and,
Docket #0562, petition for a special law re: An Act Providing Certain Benefits for the Widow of a Former Firefighter of the City of Boston
A
Okay,
cool,
what
we'll
do
is
probably
the
age
weaver
first
and
then
any
testimony,
concern
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
then
we'll
just
start
immediately.
Thereafter.
The
discussion
about
the
next
docket.
B
A
Okay,
good
morning,
everyone,
I'm
city
council,
lydia,
edwards,
chair
of
the
committee
on
government
operations,
it's
monday
september,
20th
2021
and
we're
here
today
for
a
virtual
hearing
on
dockets
zero,
eight
five,
nine
petition
for
a
special
law
regarding
an
an
act
direct
in
the
city
of
boston
police
department
to
waive
the
maximum
aid
requirement
for
police
officers
for
danielle
flores.
A
A
These
matters
were
both
sponsored
by
council
arroyo
and,
according
to
chapter
20,
the
act
of
2021
modifying
certain
requirements
of
the
open
meeting
line,
relieving
public
bodies
of
certain
requirements,
including
the
requirement
that
public
bodies
conduct
meetings
in
a
public
place.
We
are
holding
this
hearing
via
zoom.
A
A
Written
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
email
at
ccc.go
boston.gov
and
will
be
made
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors
joining
the
committee
today
during
our
first
discussion,
which
will
be
over
docket
zero.
Eight
five
nine
is
daniel
florence
flores
excuse
me
to
bpd
advocate
after
that
discussion
and
any
questions
from
the
counselors.
We
will
then
move
to
docket
zero
five
six
two,
so
I
will
now
go
to
the
council
arroyo
who
is
the
sponsor
of
both
dockets?
A
If
he
wants
to
do
some
introductory
remarks
about
docket,
zero,
eight,
five,
nine
and
then
any
other
counters,
and
then
we'll
hear
from
mr
flores.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I'll
save
my
comments
for
dr0562,
for
when
we
get
there
doc
at
zero.
Eight
five,
nine
sometime
around
literally
september
29th
of
last
year.
We
we
did
one
of
these
that
frank
baker
had
asked
for
in
this
case
it's
an
age
waiver.
It
does
not
make
mr
floor
as
an
officer.
It
just
allows
him
to
continue
in
the
process
of
becoming
an
officer
which
is
something
that
he's
already
started.
B
Mr
flores
is
42
he's
three
months
out
of
that
age
range
he's
applied
several
times
to
be
an
officer.
This
is
the
furthest
he's
gotten
in
the
process.
B
Mr
flores
currently
works
for
the
boston
school
police
department,
where
he's
been
employed
since
september
of
2015
and
prior
to
that
he
worked
for
youth
options,
unlimited
in
boston
for
11
years,
working
with
youth
between
ages
of
16
and
24,
who
record
involved
our
gang
affiliated
he's
a
very
fit
42
year
old
has
gone
through
this
whole
process
already,
and
the
concern
now
is
that,
because
of
the
this
last
time,
which
is
the
furthest
time
he
went
through
and
I'll,
let
him
sort
of
speak
to
his
his
record
of
trying
to
get
in,
and
all
of
that
is
the
furthest
that
he's
gotten.
B
However,
the
age
requirement
blocked
him,
and
so
we're
trying
to
give
him
an
opportunity
to
go
through
this
process
without
being
blocked
by
the
age
waiver.
A
Very
well
counselor
flynn
and
if
we've
been
joined
by
any
other
counselors
but
counselor
flynn,.
C
Yes,
thank
you,
council
edwards.
Thank
you,
council
arroyo.
I
think
council
arroyo
summed
it
up
best.
We
want
to
give
this
person
the
opportunity
to
continue
along
in
that
process.
He
might
be
several
months
over
the
age
limit,
but
this
person
is
dedicated
and
professional
and
hard
working
and
wants
wants
the
opportunity
to
continue
working
and
serving
the
residents
of
of
boston.
That's
what's
important.
Mr
flores
has
worked
hard.
C
His
whole
life,
no
one's,
giving
him
everything
anything
he's
fighting
for
it
and
he's
looking
for
an
opportunity
to
to
continue
that
service
for
the
residents
of
the
city
of
boston.
I
100
support
someone
that
wants
to
continue
that
that
wants
to
give
back
and
that's
what
I
think
mr
flores
wants
to
do-
is
continue,
that
that
service
of
public
service
and
to
give
back
to
the
city
and
city
of
boston.
So
I
I
certainly
support
that.
Thank
you,
council
edwards
and
thank
you.
Council
arroyo.
A
Thank
you
both.
I
think
this
is.
This
is
consistent
with
what
we've
done
many
times,
giving
people
the
opportunity
to
continue
to
try
despite
the
age
limits,
so
I
think
council
arroyo.
We
could
turn
it
over
to
mr
flores,
if
you'd
like
to
say
anything.
A
Let
me
see
if
I
I'm
going
to
try
and
mute
you,
mr
floors,
danny
flores,
I
see
you
on
screen,
you
just
need
to
unmove.
Let
me
see,
I
just
sent
you
a
request.
D
D
Good
morning,
I'm
everybody
so
yes,
as
as
councilwoman
arroyo,
yes,
I've
been
working
for
the
city
for
over
a
decade
now
so
serving
the
youth,
and
just
you
know,
I'm
helping
the
people
and
and
the
city
I
love.
I
was
born
and
raised
here
in
jamaica
plain
now.
I
reside
in
in
roslindale,
and
you
know
it's
it's
it's
an
honor.
You
know
just
wearing
the
the
badge
that
I
that
I
work
for
for
boston,
school
police.
D
I
think
it's
the
symbol
of
for
me
is
just
like
a
calling
you
know
for
just
to
like
to
help.
It's
not
just
a
badge
that
you
wear
that
you
know.
That's
a
badge
of
power
to
me.
It's
about
to
give
me
opportunity
to
just
further
help
people
I
do
that
now,
with
you
know,
with
boston,
public
schools
and
helping
the
students
here,
whether
it's
anything
from
education
to
to
mental
health.
D
I
get
approached
a
lot
by
by
my
students
asking
various
questions
and
I
always
do
my
best
to
to
just
help
them
out.
You
know
my
last
resort
always
have
been
to
make
an
arrest,
and
that's
just
not
what
that's
just
not
what
I
do.
It's
just
not
in
my
mind
to
just
make
that
call.
My
first
thing
is:
is
to
exhaust
every
option
to
help
the
person
and
that's
something
that
I
want
to
bring
to
the
city.
Overall,
you
know,
granted.
D
One
thing
I
always
say
is
that
you
know
not
not.
Every
arrest
is
a
bad
arrest,
because
that
that
can
be
something
that
you
know
a
a
court
can
actually
help
and
provide
the
person
that
that
needs
these
services.
D
You
know,
and
one
thing
that
I
always
done
is
like
I've
always
tried
to
like
do
some
outreach
to
to
the
students
here,
and
you
know
refer
them
to
my
previous
job,
which
is
youth
options,
unlimited
boston,
if,
if
they
are
court
involved,
because
it's
it's,
you
know
it's
always
about
what
what
they
do
after
they,
they
make
the
mistake
and
how
further
they
can
better
their
lives.
D
So
I'm
I'm
a
big
you
know
advocate
on
not
just
helping
people
overall,
but
like
the
youth,
I
just
feel
like
the
youth
needs.
Just
needs
more
attention,
you
know.
A
We
appreciate
your
dedication
and
your
years
already
of
service
to
the
community
and
safety
and
making
sure
our
youth
feel
heard
and
valued.
I
think
it's
very
important
and
it's
incredible
that
you
do
that,
and
you
said
you
were
a
lifelong
person
or
resident
of
boston.
So
you
know
this
city
very
well,
yes,
so
you
know
far
any
other
concerns
council
arroyo
we're
happy
to
to
move
this
forward
at
the
next
meeting.
D
No,
no,
I
just
you
know,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
You
know,
I'm
I'm
looking
forward,
you
know
for
the
next
process
and
you
know,
hopefully
I
I
can
you
know
you
know
get
approved
and
you
know
take
this.
Take
this
opportunity
to
go
even
further
into
this
boston,
police
process
and-
and
I
thank
you
guys
for
the
for
the
chance
and
the
opportunity.
D
A
Okie
dokie,
so
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
next
docket
and
formally
start
that
discussion.
So
again,
it
would
be
docket
0562,
a
special
law,
a
petition
for
a
special
law
regarding
an
act
providing
certain
benefits
for
the
widow
of
a
former
firefighter
of
the
city
of
boston.
Refer
to
the
committee
on
april
14th,
the
same
open
meeting
law
waivers
apply
as
they
did
in
the
previous
hearing.
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
the
lead.
A
Sponsor
counselor
arroyo
for
some
introductory
remarks
here
today
also
is
maria
rodriguez,
who
is
the
widow
of
leroy
rodriguez
as
well
as
michael
o'reilly,
who
is
the
legislative
agent
of
the
boston,
firefighters,
local
718.,
counselor
roya.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I'm
glad
we
have
mr
o'reilly
here
and
miss
rodriguez
who
can
answer
any
any
places
I
can't
fill
in.
But
specifically,
this
is
a
petition
to
so
to
ensure
that
mr
leroy
rodriguez
is
deaf
qualifies
in
that
accidental
death,
so
that
his
widow
and
his
family
can
receive
the
proper
death
benefits.
This
is
a
pretty
sad
case.
In
this
instance,
mrs
rodriguez
was
responding
to
a
fire
on
river
street,
went
down
the
pole
and
tore
his
achilles.
B
I
believe
he
tore
it,
but
he
damaged
it.
His
achilles
tendon
was
required
due
to
that
work,
injury
to
receive
surgery
on
his
leg
where
he
passed
away
during
the
surgery.
He
had
a
cardiac
arrest
during
the
surgery
and
in
because
of
that,
because
it
wasn't
directly
on
the
scene
or
at
the
at
the
fire
that
he
passed
away.
B
He
did
not
receive
death
benefits
which
left
his
family,
his
wife
and
his
children
in
a
in
a
predicament
and
I'd
like
to
fix
that
now,
with
the
act
that
we
have
in
front
of
us.
C
C
C
I
support
this
not
100.
I
support
this,
a
thousand
percent
because
I
know
the
incredible
sacrifice
you
and
your
family
have
made
to
our
city
and
that
injury
happened
in
the
line
of
duty
and
as
as
your
husband
went
to
the
hospital
passed
away.
But
that's
so
that's
that's!
A
line
of
injury.
Death
in
the
city
of
boston
must
respect
that
service
and
you
respect
that
service
by
making
sure
that
the
family
receives
the
benefits,
ian's,
support
and
services
that
they're
entitled
to.
C
So
again,
I
I
support
this,
a
thousand
percent
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
service
and
your
sacrifice
and
thank
you
to
the
professional
work
that
you
that
local
southern
local
718
is
also
providing
in
assisting
you.
C
I
don't
have
anything
else
to
say:
council
edwards,
thank
you,
council
edwards,
and
I
just
also
want
to
acknowledge
our
colleague
council
royal,
for
your
advocacy
and
making
sure
in
working
hard
to
make
sure
that
the
rodriguez
family
is
treated
with
the
respect
and
dignity
that
that
they
deserve
you,
you
ian
local,
17
718.
Thank
you.
Council
arroyo.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
flynn,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
miss
rodriguez
and
mr
o'reilly
for
any
testimony.
You'd
like
to
have
to
give
excuses.
F
Well,
thank
you,
madam
chairwoman.
Edwards
first
I'd
like
to
thank
you
and
the
committee
on
governmental
operations
for
holding
this
hearing
and
allowing
us
the
opportunity
to
testify
before
you
today.
I
would
also
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
thank
council
arroyo.
Counselor,
you
were
you
were
there
spot
on
when
I
called
you,
you
immediately
answered
the
phone
was
very
receptive
and
responsive.
F
You
met
with
us
out
in
high
park,
and
we
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
do
in
your
response
to
our
call
with
with
the
concern
of
this
line
of
duty
death
benefit.
I
would
also
like
to
acknowledge
and
thank
fl
councillors.
Flaherty
flynn
asabi
george
braden
wu,
bart
campbell
and
o'malley
for
also
signing
on
to
this
very
important
formula
petition,
just
to
kind
of
set
the
stage
a
little
bit.
On
july
1st.
F
In
the
early
morning,
hours
of
july,
1st
2019
incident
number
19.0039798
occurred
when
calls
started
to
come
in
for
a
report
of
a
building
fire
at
10
45
river
street.
A
lot
of
25
under
the
command
of
fire.
Lieutenant
leroy
rodriguez
was
dispatched
to
that
fire,
as
the
rit
truck
or
part
of
the
writ
team
writ
is
the
rapid
intervention
team.
That
is
the
team
that
we
send
as
firefighters.
F
You
know
we
respond
to
protect
property,
save
lives,
but
we
have
to
have
somebody
respond
in
case.
Something
happens
to
us
and
what
we
have
done
is
we
have
gotten
into
you
know
specially
trained
companies
just
for
that
purpose.
So,
as
lieutenant
rodriguez
slid
the
pole,
he
landed
very
rough,
very
hard
on
the
floor
rolled
his
ankle
tore
his
achilles
tendon.
F
He
did
in
fact
respond
to
that
fire
performed
his
duties
as
a
commander
of
the
rit
team
through
great
pain
and
suffering
with
the
achilles
tia
and
ended
up
going
off.
They
got
back
from
that
fight
somewhere
around
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
suffered
through
the
rest
of
the
tour
to
about
six
when
he
couldn't
couldn't
go
on
anymore
and
then
was
relieved
by
the
oncoming
lieutenant
and
then
went
to
the
emergency
room.
So
that
is
basically
the
step.
F
You
know
the
incident
the
stage
as
council
royal
mentioned,
while
lieutenant
rodriguez
was
on
the
operating
table.
Having
this
achilles
tear
repaired,
he
he
subsequently
went
into
cardiac
arrest
and
and
died.
F
You
know,
there's,
obviously
it
sent
miss
rodriguez,
maria
rodriguez's
life,
basically
tipped
it
upside
down,
as
I'm
sure,
as
you
can,
all
imagine-
and
you
know
very
confusing
a
lot
of
things
being
thrown
out
are,
you
know,
thrown
out
of
her
at
once,
including
the
retirement
process
and
in
the
retirement
process
you
know,
being
I
would
say,
I
just
had
a
conversation
with
her
earlier
typical
firefighter's,
wife,
really
kind
of
just
knows
how
to
read
the
calendar
and
know
know
when
you're,
working
or
not
and
other
than
that
you
know
the
retirement
stuff,
the
you
know
a
lot
of
the
other
minutia,
the
stuff
that
goes
into
it.
F
So
miss
rodriguez
was
unaware
of
the
different.
You
know
types
of
retirement,
whatnot,
five
lieutenant
rodriguez
did
receive
the
full
honors
of
a
line
of
duty
funeral
and
was
buried
with
honor,
one
of
the
as
being
in
retirement
community,
the
legislative
agent
for
a
very
long
time
for
718
and
being
the
retirement
community
for
a
very
long
time,
one
of
the
most
narrowly
interpreted
or
in
some
cases
misinterpreted
laws
is
chapter
32,
section
100.
F
and
if
you
just
bear
with
me,
I'm
not
going
to
read
the
whole
thing.
But
just
a
part
that
pertains
to
firefighters,
so
section
100
is
not
within
any
provision
of
this
chapter
or
any
other
general
or
special
lot
of
the
contrary.
F
If
a
firefighter,
while
in
the
performance
of
his
duties
and
as
the
result
of
an
accident
while
responding
to
or
returning
from
an
alarm
of
fire
or
any
emergency
or
as
a
result
or
as
a
result
of
an
accident
involving
a
fire
department
vehicle
which
the
firefighter
is
operating
or
in
which
it
or
in
which
he
is
riding
or-
and
this
is
the
most
important
part
that
gets,
I
think,
miss
or
misinterpret
all
the
time
or
while
at
the
scene
of
a
fire
or
an
emergency,
is
killed
or
sustains
injuries
which
result
in
his
death.
F
Okay,
is
killed
or
sustained
injuries
which
result
in
his
death.
F
I
will
now
read
again
just
briefly,
and
I
appreciate
you,
bearing
with
me
some
notes
from
dr
christine
campbell
ridden,
who
is
the
the
retirement
board
doctor,
that
the
retirement
board
uses
in
cases
with
accidental
deaths
and
and
line
of
duty
deaths
all
right.
She
states,
and
I
quote
it
is
my
medical
opinion
that
lieutenant
leroy
rodriguez,
the
cause
of
his
anoxic
brain
injury,
was
from
the
prolonged
cardiac
arrest.
F
Despite
aggressive
cpr
and
advanced
life,
support
measures
in
targeted
temperature
therapy.
He
still
sustained
a
severe
anoxic
brain
injury.
A
cardiac
arrest
occurred
during
the
surgery
for
repair
of
his
achilles
tendon
injury
that
occurred,
while
working
as
a
boston
firefighter
had
this
injury
not
occurred.
Lieutenant
rodriguez
would
not
have
required.
The
surgical
intervention
in
the
series
of
events
leading
to
his
death
would
not
have
occurred.
F
It
was
a
necessity
for
lieutenant
rodriguez
to
undergo
surgical
repair
of
his
achilles
tendon
so
that
he
could
walk
and
also
be
able
to
return
to
his
duties
as
a
boston
fire.
Lieutenant
therefore,
is
my
opinion.
The
leroy
rodriguez's
death
was
the
direct
result
of
an
accident
that
occurred,
while
in
the
performance
of
his
duties.
F
So,
like
I
said
in
you
know
where
people
sometimes
get
confused
as
well,
he
didn't
die
right
there
on
the
scene
or
he
didn't
die.
You
know
you
know
directly
responding
to
a
working
act,
but
he
did
as
like,
I
said
as
a
result
of
the
response
to
the
incident
suffered,
the
achilles
tendons
here,
which
then
put
him
in
in
the
circumstances
in
which
he
was
where
he
had
the
cardiac
arrest
and
died.
F
That
is
all
I
have
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
maria
rodriguez,
a
widow
of
fight,
lieutenant
leroy
rodriguez
and
and
and
for
her
remarks.
But
again
I
want
to
thank
you,
madam
chairwoman,
edwards
for
holding
this
hearing,
and
you
also
counsel
royal
council
flynn.
You
know
you're
at
every
every
hearing
I've
ever
seen,
so
I
want
to
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you
do
as
well.
So
without
further
ado,
maria
rodriguez
would
like
to
say
a
few
words.
E
E
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
thank
you
guys
for
counselors
coming
out
and
representing
this
and
hearing
this.
This
has
not
been
easy.
E
E
E
E
And
to
be
dealing
with
all
this
administrative
stuff,
although
I
am
really
good
about
it,
it
was
also
really
hard
for
me
to
understand
the
language.
That's
on
the
section
100,
because
when
I
read
it
and
believe
me
when
I
say
I
read
it,
I
read
that
whole
document
and,
like
I
brought
out
to
michael
that
one
word
or
o-r
a
two-letter
word
is
what
this
distinguished
the
difference
between
whether
my
husband
died
in
an
act.
E
What
is
it
accidental
injury,
sustained
injury
from
his
job
or
whether
it
was
outside
and
I'm
reading
that
document?
Like
the
word
or
like?
I
said,
it's
just
a
two-letter
word
and
that's
going
to
determine
whether
the
benefit
that
a
family
will
receive
thereafter,
not
that
I
I
prefer
my
husband
versus
the
the
benefit,
but
in
this
case
I
have
to
move
forward
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
our
kids
are
being
taken
care
of
or
that
they're
receiving
the
benefit.
E
I
hate
to
say
this,
but
the
benefit
of
what
comes
after
a
death.
I
guess
so.
I
just
want
to
make
this
right.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
city
is
seeing
these
cases
and
and
realizing
that
you
know
this.
This
has
a
huge
impact
on
a
family
and
I'm
I'm
sorry
that
I'm
mumbling
right
now,
because
I
really
there's
so
much
that
I
really
want
to
say-
and
I'm
really
holding
back
from
my
true
feeling
about
all
this.
E
But
I
just
want
the
city
to
make
it
right
because
they
went
ahead
and
gave
him
an
honor
ceremony,
and
I
was
under
the
assumption,
I'm
like
okay,
he
is
receiving
and
I
was
told
you
know
that
the
family
will
receive
the
section
100
and
then
all
of
a
suddenly.
You
know
it
comes
down
to
that.
They've
seen
it
differently
and
I
just
want
an
explanation.
I
just
want
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
why
it
went
from
a
standard
section.
12.
E
And
not
the
100
that
I
I
guess
I
was
told
I
guess-
or
I
guess
I
guess
it's
the
misunderstanding
of
the
language,
so
not
everybody!
Everyone
from
the
outside
seen
it
as
an
accident
that
leroy
sustained
an
injury
at
his
job,
but
unfortunately
the
medical
board
or
the
retirement
board
sees
it
differently.
So
we
just.
I
just
want
an
understanding
and
explanation
as
to
how
do
you
guys
view
this,
because
I
see
it
as
he
passed
away
in
the
line
of
duty,
active
line
of
duty
versus
just
an
active
firefighter.
F
If,
if
I
could
just
add,
I
I
apologize
as
well-
and
you
know
I
hate
to
use
the
word
benefit
too,
because
there's
no
benefit
in
losing
a
loved
one,
but
one
of
the
indirect
benefits
of
lieutenant
rodriguez's
death
is.
He
has
a
son,
leroy
jr,
who
was
of
qualifying
age
able-bodied
and
would
love
nothing
more
than
to
follow
his
dad's
footsteps
as
a
boston
firefighter
and
without
the
section
100.
F
I
don't
have
to
tell
any
of
you.
You
know
how
difficult
it
is.
You
know,
for
you
know
an
individual
to
get
on
the
fire
department
unless
they're
a
veteran.
So
this
would
be
a
you
know.
Also
the
opportunity
like
I
said
that
leroy
jr
could
honor
his
dad's
death
in
in
you
know,
in
service
to
the
city
himself,
which
is
what
he
wants
to
do.
Nothing,
no
there's
nothing
more.
F
He
wants
to
do
in
life
than
to
follow
his
his
dad's
steps
footsteps
in
becoming
a
firefighter.
So
that
is
again,
you
know
not
that's
a
benefit
to
leroy
jr,
but
also
to
the
city
of
boston,
where
you
know
they
can
add
to
the
ranks
the
boston
firefighter
another.
F
You
know
a
very
qualified,
able-bodied
candidate
of
of
color,
which
otherwise,
like
I
said
unless
you're
a
veteran
you
know
can
can
be,
can
be
difficult,
and
I
know
I'm
not
telling
you
guys
anything
that
you
don't
already
know
and
the.
Lastly,
I
I
forgot
in
my
remarks
I
apologize.
F
F
But
in
section
two
of
the
of
the
of
the
docket,
the
there's
one
sentence
change
in
instead
of
yearly
amount
of
pension
equal
to
three
quarters
of
the
amount
of
the
annual
pension
that
would
have
been
payable
to
said
leroy
rodriguez
had
a
continued
service,
it
should
say
an
annual
amount
of
pension
equal
to
the
amount
of
salary
which
would
have
been
paid
to
said
five
lieutenant
rodriguez
had
to
continue
the
service.
F
I
have
submitted
this
change
to
council,
so
royals
office
and
and
and
hopefully
you
can
make
that
correction
as
as
this
moves
forward
and
again
I
just
sincerely
want
to
thank
all
you
counselors
for
your
work
that
you
do
every
day,
but
also
for
you
know
for
recognizing
this
and
and
and
getting
on
this
on
the
on
the
docket
and
and
hearing
us.
But
without
further
ado.
That's
all
I
have
and
turn
it
back
to
you
guys.
A
A
I
think
what
is
particularly
sad
to
hear
is
that
just
going
through
the
process
has
only
furthered
your
furthered,
your
pain
and
your
your
sense
of
loss
working
with,
and
for
and
trying
to
do
the
governmental
process
and
administration
shouldn't
do
that
to
anybody,
and
that's
what
I
heard
initially
from
you-
is
that
you
know
just
just
trying
to
just
do
what
they
ask
of
you.
A
What
was
painful
in
that
process
as
well?
I'm
sorry
for
that
genuinely
from
the
bottom
of
my
heart.
Very
sorry
for
that.
Thank
you.
We
we've
had
many
hearings
about
this,
mostly
for
folks
who
are
disabled,
and
the
city
council
has
heard
from
other
matters
like
this
as
well.
Today
was
about
your
voice.
A
Today
was
about
hearing
from
718
and
so
and
of
course
again,
I
want
to
thank
councillor
arroyo.
I
want
my
colleagues
to
know
that
there
is
a
packet
that
has
the
letter
the
the
the
doctor's
opinion
in
it
from
the
retirement
board.
A
It
does
also
have
sensitive
information
in
there,
and
so,
while
it
is
on
the
record
for
my
colleagues
to
acknowledge
that
that
is
personal
information,
so
it's
to
be
read
for
their
own
understanding
and
information
in
terms
of
the
next
steps
at
other
retirement
hearings,
we've
had
retirement
board,
members
come
and
speak.
But
again
that
was
not
today's
point.
It
was
to
hear
from
you,
ms
rodriguez,
it
was
to
hear
from
you,
mr
o'reilly,
so
we
would
I'm
gonna
ask
that
the
retirement
board
explain
what
their
decision.
I
don't
have
their
decision.
A
We
don't
have
their
decision.
I
should
say
that
the
city
council
as
to
what
the
denial
was
about,
but
I
think
mr
o'reilly,
you
summarized
it
as
a
misinterpretation
or
narrow
interpretation
of
the
law.
A
Then
I
think
that's
actually
actually
how
counselor
arroyo
described
it
as
well.
It's
very
narrow
understanding,
and
now
we
have
the
opinion
from
the
doctor
saying
one
led
to
the
other
period,
the
surgery
having
to
get
the
surgery
from
hurting
his
ankle
and
his
achilles
tendon.
So
I'd
like
to
get
a
letter
from
the
retirement
board
that
they
had
a
response
to
this,
but
I
don't
intend
to
delay
this
very
long
and-
and
I
want
you
to
be
able
to
move
on
with
your
life
and
be
able
to
move
on
in
this
process.
A
But
today
was
your
day,
ms
rodriguez,
and
that's
why
I
wanted
to
hear-
and
I
think
the
council
needed
to
hear
this
is
being
recorded
from
you
and
I
I
I've
suffered
a
loss
as
well.
I
grief
is,
is
devastating,
it
is
prolonged
and
it
hits
you
when
you
least
expect
it.
I'm
so
sorry,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Counselor
royal
counselor
flynn.
You
have
any
any
remarks.
B
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
mr
rodriguez,
thank
you
so
much
for
taking
the
time
today.
I
know
this
is
very
difficult.
When
we
spoke
in
high
park.
I
gave
you
my
apologies
that
the
system
failed
you
and
that
I
hoped
we
would
be
able
to
remedy
this
as
quickly
as
possible
for
your
sake
and
for
leroy
jr,
and
I
believe,
we're
gonna.
Do
everything
in
our
power
to
make
sure
that
that
moves
as
quickly
as
possible,
because
two
years
has
been
too
long,
as
is
so.
B
I
want
to
thank
718
and
michael
riley
for
bringing
this
to
my
attention.
As
soon
as
I
heard
this,
I
knew
this
was
an
injustice
that
I
wanted
to
try
and
correct.
So
thank
you
for
taking
this
time
today,
mr
o'reilly,
if
you
can
just
really
briefly
on
because
I
think
it's
important
leroy
rodriguez
jr
wants
to
be
a
firefighter
wants
to
do
the
same
service
that
his
father
gave
his
life
doing
for
the
city,
which.
B
Is
incredibly
moving
first
and
foremost,
but
this
process
to
become
a
firefighter
is
complicated
and
difficult.
However,
one
of
the
aspects
of
accidental
death
is
that
there's
a
separate
distinction
that
happens
to
to
their
children
correct,
and
if
you
could
just
tell
me
the
time
sort
of
time
requirements
were
under
there,
because
I,
I
think
one
of
the
major
things
that
was
repeated
to
me
over
and
over
again
wasn't
necessarily
that
there
was
any
you
know.
B
Obviously,
the
the
financial
resources
that
mr
rodriguez
provided
that
are
missing
is
an
issue,
but
that
the
major
thrust
of
this
was
that
leroy
rodriguez
jr
has
this
dream,
and
this
helps
him
accomplish
that
and
if
you
could
just
go
into
sort
of
what
the
time
restrictions
or
time
restraints
we're
facing
there
are
so
so
I
have
a
better
idea,
because
I
don't
think
I've
ever
actually
gotten
the
full
timeline
that
we
need
to
get
this
done
on
for
that
to
work.
For
mr
rodriguez
jr.
F
Yeah
so
chapter
31,
section
26
of
the
mass
general
laws,
which
is
the
civil
service
law,
provides
for
a
survivor
benefit
of
you
know.
Children
who
were
you
know,
survivors
of
police
officers,
firefighters
killed
the
line
of
duty
going
off
the
civil
service
age
requirement,
it
would
be
32
and
leroy.
Jr
is
he'll.
F
He'll
be
31
in
november.
You
know,
obviously
you
know
not
that
we
want
to,
but
we
could
always
come
back
just
like
the
previous
docket
before
us
to
extend
that.
But
you
know
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
now.
You
know
to
like.
I
said:
if,
if,
if
this
you
know
go
through
and
go
up
the
state
house
and-
and
you
know
sign
into
law
by
the
governor,
then
we
can
you
know,
so
we
can
do
that.
So.
D
F
Guess
I
guess
the
simple
answer
to
your
question
is:
is
just
over
a
year
right
a
year
and
a
couple
months,
maybe
about
14
months
until
his
he
turns
32.,
so
he
he
has
taken
the
test.
He
scored
very
well
he's
on
right.
Now
he
is
sitting
actively
on
the
civil
service
list.
You
know,
however.
F
Unfortunately
you
know
he
is
on
the
the
list
that,
sadly
to
say,
doesn't
move
too
often,
because
you
know
he's
he's
not
a
veteran
so,
but
you
know
so
roughly
about
14
months
until
he
hits
the
32
mark,
although
he
doesn't
have
to
be
hired
at
32
as
long
as
he
I'm
sure
there.
Let
me
think
here
there
may
be
another
entrance
exam
prior
to
him,
turning
32,
so
as
long
as
he
takes
that
exam
before
he's,
32
he'll
be
eligible
to
take
that
exam.
F
Rather,
I
should
say,
but
you
know
he
does
turn
32
in
about
14
months.
B
C
I
I
don't
have
any
further
questions
or
comments
other
than
to
say
that
you
know
when
a
firefighter
when
they're,
when
a
firefighter
is
serving
the
residents
of
the
of
the
city,
so
doesn't
the
family
as
well
so
they're,
also
they're,
also
sacrificing
and
serving
for
the
residents
of
boston.
So
it's
the
rodriguez's
family
and
so
many
other
families
that
continue
to
make
our
city
the
great
city.
C
It
is,
and
you
know
it's
it's
about
sacrifice
and-
and
I
see
the
pain
from
from
your
family
in
the
sacrifice
of
your
family,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
respect
that
pain
and
sacrifice
and
service
through
the
through
passing
programs
and
legislation
that
protects
firefighter
families
and
our
first
responder
families
as
well.
So
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
sacrifice
of
our
first
responders
families.
They
play
an
exceptional
role
in
our
city.
A
Thank
you
thank
you
both
for
being
here
today,
so
I'm
going
to
just
check
in
with
council
roy
about
timing
and
anything
we
can
get
on
from
the
retirement
board
if
there's
anything,
but
I
expect
we'll
move
this
along
as
well
to
get
to
the
vote.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
today.
A
I
think
you
speak
on
behalf
of
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people.
Ms
rodriguez.
I
think
you
do
so.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
lot
of
families,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
conclude
conclude
today's
hearing
on
this
matter,
I'll
check
in
with
counselor
arroyo
shortly
thereafter,.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chairwoman,
and
I
just
want
to
say
real
quickly.
Good
luck
in
your
future.