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From YouTube: Committee on Government Operations on September 8, 2022
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Docket #1017- Petition for a Special Law Re: An Act Authorizing the City of Boston to Establish Fossil Fuel-Free Standards for New Construction and Major Renovation Projects.
A
I
am
city
councilor
at
large,
routine
gen
current
chair
of
the
committee
on
government
operations.
It's
thursday
september,
8th
2022.
We
are
here
today
for
a
hearing
on
docket
number
1017
petition
for
a
special
law
regarding
an
act
authorizing
the
city
of
boston,
to
establish
fossil
fuel,
free
standards
for
new
construction
and
major
renovation
projects.
A
This
doctor
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
august
31st
2022
and
was
sponsored
by
mayor
wu
in
accordance
with
chapter
107
of
the
acts
of
2022,
modifying
certain
requirements
of
the
open
meeting
law
and
relieving
public
bodies
of
certain
requirements,
including
the
requirement
that
public
bodies
conduct
its
meeting
in
a
public
place
that
is
open
and
physically
accessible
to
the
public.
The
city
council
will
be
conducting
this
hearing
virtually
and
is
being
recorded
and
live
streamed.
A
Written
comments
may
be
sent
to
the
committee
email
at
ccc.go
boston.gov
and
will
be
made
a
part
of
the
record
and
available
to
all
counselors
public.
Testimony
will
be
taken
at
the
end
of
this
hearing
and
will
be
limited
to
two
or
three
minutes
at
the
discretion
of
the
chair.
I
am
joined
by
members
of
the
administration,
reverend
mariama
white,
hammond,
chief
of
environment,
energy
and
open
space.
Dr
allison
brzezias.
Apologies.
Five!
A
Didn't
get
that
correctly,
commissioner
of
the
environment
department,
dr
basola
ojokotu,
executive,
director,
boston,
public
health,
commission,
sheila,
dillon,
chief
of
housing,
jessica,
boatright,
deputy
director
department
of
neighborhood
development,
joseph
backer
development
officer,
mayors
of
office
of
housing
and
arthur
jemison,
who
will
be
on
later
the
chief
of
planning.
We
are
also
joined
by
my
council
colleagues,
council,
kendra,
lara
district,
six
council
president
ed
flynn,
district,
two
and
councilor
kenzie
bach
district.
Eight.
Also
joined
by
council,
brian
orrell
district
four
and
I'm
to
make
sure
that
I'm
not
missing
any
one
moment.
A
Oh
welcome
oliver
and
thank
you
chief
white
hammond.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
being
here
today
and
joining
this
hearing.
This
homework
petition
will
enable
the
city
of
boston
to
adopt
and
amend
an
ordinance
or
zoning
code
that
sets
restrictions
or
prohibitions
on
the
use
of
fossil
fuels
in
new
constructions
and
major
renovation
projects.
The
following
homo
petition
also
sets
forth
that
the
ordinance
or
resorting
regulations
must
contain
definitions
and
criteria
for
applicability,
transition,
timelines
and
emissions
reduction
goals.
A
There
can't
be
any
more
hiding
and
no
more
denying
that
global
climate
change
is
accelerating
extreme
weather
events.
We
also
have
to
acknowledge
here
in
the
city
of
boston,
how
we've
contributed
to
carbon
pollution
and
especially
given
our
rampant
development.
Over
the
last
decade,
people
across
the
world
are
paying
the
price
for
our
construction
losing
their
lives
and
livelihoods
due
to
more
deadly
and
more
frequent
heatwaves,
floods,
wildfires
and
droughts.
A
Our
construction,
our
buildings,
play
an
outsized
role
in
contributing
to
that
pollution,
and
it's
time
we
begin
to
address
that
environmental
justice
demands
that
all
people
have
a
right
to
be
protected
from
environmental
hazards
and
to
live
and
enjoy
a
clean
and
helpful
environment.
It
also
demands
equal
protection
and
meaningful
involvement
of
all
people
with
respect
to
the
laws,
regulations
and
policies
of
the
equitable
distribution
of
environmental
impacts
and
benefits,
and
we
also
have
to
make
sure
that
we
are
applying
a
racial
justice
and
environmental
justice
to
everything
that
we
do
here.
A
New
standards
and
that
together
in
partnership,
will
find
a
path
forward
to
transition
to
a
brighter,
greener
future.
I'm
now
going
to
turn
it
over
to
my
council
colleagues.
In
order
of
arrival
for
opening
remarks
followed
by
the
administration
panel,
I
believe
first
here
was
counselor
kendra
lara,
so
council
data
you
have
the
floor.
C
Thank
you
so
much
chair.
I
think
that,
as
the
city
of
boston
continues
to
undergo
a
major
building
boom,
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
the
standards
for
new
construction
and
the
various
forms
of
major
renovation
projects
are
eliminating
the
need
for
fossil
fuel,
or
at
least
we're
moving
in
that
direction.
C
And
as
the
chair
of
the
environmental
justice,
resiliency
and
parks
committee,
I'm
really
excited
about
moving
this
homework
petition
forward,
but
also
about
stewarding
us
through
the
process
of
engaging
all
of
the
stakeholders
in
creating
an
ordinance
for
the
city
of
boston
that
works
for
all
of
us.
According
to
our
own
building
emissions
and
reduction
and
disclosure,
ordinance
or
alberto
what
we
call
it
for
short
in
2021.
C
But
about
this
humble
petition
and
that
the
home
rule
petition,
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
is
effectively
empty
and
will
be
sent
to
the
state
house
to
hold
our
spot
as
one
of
the
10
statewide
communities,
one
of
the
possible
10
statewide
communities.
That
will
have
permission
to
implement
this
ordinance.
And
so
we
have
a
very
long
process
ahead
of
us
to
create
an
ordinance
that
works
for
all
of
us.
But
this
home
rule
petition
is
really
just
the
beginning
of
it.
So
thank
you.
E
E
I
think
that
we
all
know
that
the
city's
got
aggressive
goals,
and
sometimes
we
argue
about
whether
they
should
be
even
more
aggressive
on
the
carbon
neutral
front,
but,
of
course
like
we
aren't
currently
taking
all
the
steps
that
we
need
to
take
to
get
there,
and
so
I
think
that
you
know
moving
towards
a
norm
of
fossil
free
fossil
fuel-free
infrastructure
is
important
for
actually
getting
to
those
critical
climate
goals
in
the
city.
I'd
also
echo
yours
and
counselor
lara's
comments
about.
E
I
think
you
know
this
needs
to
be
done
in
partnership
with
labor
we've.
You
know,
there's
a
reference
in
the
home
in
the
home
rule
petition
to
you
know:
transition
timelines,
certainly
in
my
district
we're
really
excited
about
the
possibility
of
making
the
steam
that
powers
a
lot
of
the
larger
buildings.
In
my
district
green
and
you
know
so
it's
going
to
matter
to
me
that
we
have
a
a
plan
there
and,
and
also
you
know
it's
well.
E
I
understand
why
the
state
legislature
exempted
lab
and
hospital
here
at
the
state
level.
I'm
I'm
concerned
that
we
make
sure
that
nothing
we
do
here
discourages
the
construction
of
housing
and
especially
affordable
housing,
because
I
see
chief
dylan
on
the
call
you
know.
Obviously,
that's
a
super
critical
policy
goal
of
ours,
but
the
way
I
feel
about
this
is
that
all
of
those
goals
highlight
your
standards.
E
Housing
construction,
they
they're
all
they
can
all
be
aligned
as
part
of
the
green
new
deal,
with
our
need
to
really
embrace
the
fossil
fuel
free
future
and
as
councillor
lara
and
yourself
alluded
to.
You
know
this
home
role,
petition
that
we're
considering
today
is
really
to
make
sure
that
we're
in
consideration
to
participate
in
the
pilot
program
and-
and
the
time
is
now
the
time
was
yesterday-
really
is
the
truth
in
terms
of
all
the
things
we
need
to
do
on
the
climate
front.
E
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
administration
and
just
excited
for
this
home
rule
petition,
but
just
want
to
echo
everyone's
comments
about
you
know.
You
know
making
sure
that
when
we
are
well
keeping
in
mind
green
green
gentrification,
doing
this
in
partnership
with
labor
and
also
the
impacts
that
it
would
have
on
developers
and
contractors
of
of
color
as
well.
But
looking
forward
to
the
conversation
and
shepherding
this
whole
new
petition
through.
A
B
Good
morning
so
we're
here
again,
I'm
really
excited
to
partner
with
the
city
council
and
moving
this
forward.
As
has
been
said
many
times,
this
is
just
about
the
sort
of
smaller
piece
which
is
the
home
rule
petition,
and
that
sets
the
stage
for
the
more
important
piece,
which
is
the
really
coming
together
to
figure
out
how
we
create
an
ordinance,
and
I
want
to
know
that
we're
really
excited-
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
my
new
colleague.
B
I
love
her
sellers,
garcia,
to
really
make
sure
that
this
ordinance
going
forward,
not
the
home
repetition,
but
the
ordinance
really
focuses
on
boston
going
fossil
free,
but
in
a
way
that
I
think
that's
a
model
not
just
for
the
state
but
for
the
country
in
doing
so.
In
a
way,
that's
really
focused
on
just
transition
and
thinking
about
the
workers,
who
are
impacted
that
by
this,
how
we
make
sure
they
have
a
path
into
the
new
green
economy
and
really
thinking
about
environmental
justice
communities.
B
Putting
at
the
front
of
our
thinking
those
people
who've
often
been
left
behind.
There
are
many
ways
that
people
have
instituted
this
that
have
allowed
people
to
exit
the
grid,
who
had
the
most
ability
to
do
so,
while
leaving
behind
those
who
actually
need
the
financial
support
need
the
clean
air
the
most.
So
I'm
really
excited
to
do
this,
not
just
because
of
the
climate
imperative,
but
the
opportunity
to
do
this
in
a
green,
neutral
way.
B
That
looks
at
economic
justice
at
the
same
time
that
we're
really
looking
at
climate
change
and
environmental
justice,
and
this
will
be
one
of
the
first
things
that
oliver
and
I
get
to
do
together.
So
I'm
really
I'm
looking
forward
to
that
opportunity,
because
this
will
impact,
not
just
you
know
private
buildings,
but
also
really
gives
the
city
an
opportunity
to
take
even
greater
leadership
in
the
way
that
we're
doing
our
own
buildings
and
allowing
us
to
sort
of
set
a
higher
standard.
And
I
finally
just
want
to
note.
B
I
believe
that
chief
jemison
may
not
be
able
to
join
is
my
understanding,
and
so
I
do
want
to
know.
I
want
to
raise
up
that
bpda
and
the
environment
department
particularly
have
been
having
a
lot
of
extensive
conversations
about
how
we
really
get
net
zero
zoning
and
birdo
really
moving
in
our
community
and
all
the
things
that
go
forward.
So
we
are
excited
by
the
opportunity
that
this
will
give
us
to
continue
that
partnership.
B
Many
of
you
have
been
strong
partners
on
this
and
we're
excited
to
to
make
this
move
forward,
and
I
just
want
to
shout
out
to
chief
dylan
who
I
just
want
to
say:
there
are
many
parts
across
the
state
many
places
in
the
country
where
affordable
housing
ends
up
in
battle
with
environment,
and
I
want
to
uplift
the
fact
that
chief
dylan
and
her
team
have
always
had
a
different
approach.
That
says
we
can
do
these
two
things
together
that
poor
people
deserve
excellent
housing
just
as
much
as
everybody
else.
B
People
deserve
not
to
have
to
live
with.
The
kind
of
emissions
that
come
cut
people's
life
short,
so
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
and
to
finally
to
dr
basolo,
who
does
a
lot
of
the
work
to
help
folks
when
the
emissions
that
we
currently
put
out
affect
their
life
expectancy
and
life
opportunities.
B
So
I
am
hoping,
dr
pisola,
that
that
this
will
make
your
job
just
a
little
bit
easier
as
we
hopefully
improve
the
health
of
all
of
boston's
residents
by
really
leaning
in
on
this
important
work
and
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to.
As
I
said,
our
newest
colleague
day,
three
on
the
job.
Eleven
oliver
sellers,
garcia.
B
H
H
Thank
you
very
much
chairman
and
counselors,
so
I
just
want
to
repeat
some
of
the
things
that
the
counselors
and
reverend
mariama
have
said
that
are
just
so
important
about
getting
this
right
for
boston.
We
know
that
there's
other
communities
in
the
commonwealth
that
are
working
on
this
and
we're
you
know
excited
about
being
part
of
this
cohort.
H
But
I
really
think
what
we're
gonna
strive
for
in
this
process
is
to
really
come
up
with
the
best
model
that
reflects
the
the
values,
the
reality
and
also
the
places
where
we
can
go
in
boston,
and
that
is
really
centered
on
the
need,
for
you
know,
more
healthy,
affordable
housing
and
also
the
opportunity
that
greening
our
building
stock
really
can
do
for
our
economy.
So
I
just
want
to
highlight
a
couple
other
things
and-
and
that
is
really
you
know-
we'll
be
looking
to
do
a
process
that
considers
some
key
elements.
H
Thinking
about
efficiency,
as
well
as
banning
fossil
fuels,
because
really
these
go
hand
in
hand,
and
they
are
what
makes
homes
comfortable
and
affordable
really,
as
others
have
mentioned,
really
seeing
how
we
can
work
with
labor.
To
make
this
a
model
of
a
just
transition,
there's
so
much
opportunity
here
and
then
a
point,
that's
really
close
to
my
heart
is
making
sure
that
this
works
for
renters.
H
We
are
a
majority
renter
city
and
you
know
the
new
housing
that
comes
up
really
has
to
work
for
that
as
well,
so
understanding
how
you
know
the
market
and
it
all
works
for
for
people
who
live
in
our
city.
So
thank
you
again
just
for
those
brief
comments
and
I'm
you
know
I
I
could
not
more
enthusiastically
share
what
chief
white
hammond
said
about
working
on
this
together.
What
a
wonderful
topic
for
us
to
start!
You
know
putting
the
green
new
deal
into
reality.
A
J
Great
should
I
should
I
go
ahead,
chair
chair
one:
yes,
okay,
good
morning,
my
name
is
hi.
How
are
you
good
morning?
My
name
is
dr
bisola
jacout
and
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
boston,
public
health
commission
and
I'd
like
to
begin
by
thanking
the
city
council
and
mayor
wu
for
their
leadership
on
environmental
justice
in
boston
and
for
recognizing
that
good
climate
policy,
like
this
is,
is
really
good
health
policy
and
will
obviously
promote
health
equity,
which
is
all
of
our
priority.
J
I
think
that
it
goes
without
saying
that
climate
change
has
had
a
profound
impact
on
our
city.
I
think
we've
heard
that
and
it's
just
evident
all
over
the
place,
but
what
we
haven't
talked
about
enough
is
the
impact
of
climate
change
on
the
health
and
health
outcomes
of
our
residents,
whether
emergencies,
like
extreme
heat,
exacerbate
chronic
illness
like
heart,
disease
and
respiratory
disorders.
J
I
don't
think
we
all
recognize
the
impact
that
air
pollution
has
in
terms
of
we
burn
fossil
fuels.
We
create
these
emissions,
they
create
fine
particulate
matter.
It
aggravates
asthma
increases
lung
infection,
causes
higher
rates
of
both
lung
cancer
and
heart
disease
and
frankly,
there
have
been
large
studies
which
show
that
it
causes
premature
death.
Even
my
colleagues,
other
doctors
don't
recognize
this
critical
impact.
J
What
we've
seen
is
that
lower
income
individuals,
particularly
people
of
color,
the
youngest
and
the
oldest
among
us,
are
really
disproportionately
impacted
by
this
health
threat.
Weather
emergencies,
like
we
saw
you
know
in
july
and
august
place
our
most
vulnerable
residents
at
higher
risk
for
medical
emergencies
and
certainly
stretch
our
resources.
J
For
example,
during
august
boston,
ems
saw
a
15
to
20
increase
in
daily
call
volume,
and
a
lot
of
that
was
due
to
these.
You
know
instances
that
were
related
to
to
weather
emergency
and
into
the
heat
emergency
that
we
all
experienced.
It's
really
difficult
to
estimate
the
toll.
The
climate
change
and
air
pollution
will
have
on
our
on
the
health
of
our
residents
over
time,
but
we
can
estimate
that
it'll.
J
It
will
be
significant
if
greenhouse
emissions
continue
at
the
current
rate
in
about
50
years,
boston
will
likely
experience
a
full
two
months
worth
of
days
over
90
degrees.
Fahrenheit
in
a
year
and
that,
as
you
can
imagine,
will
significantly
increase
the
need,
for
you
know,
resources
and
impact
on
people's
health.
J
It
may
seem,
like
you
know,
50
years,
a
long
time
from
now,
but
it
really
isn't
so.
The
good
news
is
that
we
are
taking
action
now
we're
fighting
to
achieve
climate
justice,
which
hopefully
will
mean
fewer
weather
emergencies
and
fewer
heat
islands,
so
people
in
neighborhoods,
like
mattapan
and
roxbury,
will
less
likely
to
suffer
from
heat
related
illnesses.
Climate
justice
also
means
fewer
airborne
pollutants
and
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
So
communities
like
chinatown
will
no
lower
rates
of
asthma,
where
we
know
that
there
are
disproportionate
rates
in
in
terms
of
asthma
and
respiratory
illnesses.
J
Climate
justice
also
means
just
a
safer,
healthier
and
more
equitable
boston
for
generations
to
come.
This
proposed
home
home
real
petition
will,
you
know,
hopefully
lead
to
meaningful
policy
change
that
will
improve
health
outcomes
and
lead
to
longer
term
change.
You
know
overall
throughout
the
city,
so
thank
you
again
to
the
committee
for
putting
forth
this
effort
for
allowing
me
to
testify
today
to
talk
to
you
about
some
of
the
specific
health
impacts
of
climate
change
and
air
pollution.
I'm
really
incredibly
excited
about
this
effort
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
A
J
K
K
K
And
while
these
requirements
are
relatively
new-
and
we
all
know
that
when
you
know
change
happens,
especially
in
a
high
cost
construction
environment,
there
can
be
a
lot
of
pushback.
There
hasn't
been.
There
has
been
really
solid
cooperation
from
our
development
community
because
they
realize
that
that
affordable,
housing
and
our
environment
cannot
be
bifurcated.
They
they
they're
they're
both
important
and
they
need
to
support
each
other.
K
So
I
I
just
will
wrap
up
by
saying
that,
if
where
we
are
working
really
really
hard
to
increase
the
amount
of
affordable
housing
in
boston,
but
all
of
us
feel
in
the
community
at
mayor's
office
of
housing
staff
that,
if
our
new
buildings,
of
which
there
are
many,
I
think
we
have
like
over
a
thousand
units
in
construction
right
now
in
a
pipeline
of
another
thousand
and
that's
how
how
it
generally
is.
If
our
new
buildings
are
going
to
make
the
environment
worse,
then
we're
not
succeeding.
K
A
Thanks
chief
dylan
appreciate
appreciate
your
words
here.
I
don't
know
if
jessica
brought
right
was
also
going
to
speak
or
if
it
was
just.
If
we
had
questions,
she
would
be
ready
to
address
them,
awesome
and-
and
that's
true
also
for
joe
joe
hi
joe
that's
right,
okay,
awesome
and
then
I
heard
you
hear
that
I
think
he
made
it
on
chief
jemison.
Is
he
here?
Let
me
just
so.
I
was
told
he
was
logging
on.
I
L
Great
good
to
see
everybody-
well
listen.
I'm
excited
to
be
here
today
to
support
this
process,
as
I
mentioned
out
there
on
the
out
there
in
front
of
the
flagpoles
a
few
weeks
ago.
It's
really
important
for
us
to
achieve
this
meaningful
change
in
the
way
we
do
business
to
benefit
to
benefit
generations
to
come.
It's
an
important
step.
L
That's
going
to
help
solidify
our
commitment
to
green
buildings
and
environmental
justice
moving
forward
as
recent
extreme
weather
events
are
showing
us
it's
becoming
more
and
more
urgent
for
us
to
accelerate
our
work
in
decarbonization
and
to
address
the
causes
of
climate
change.
Now,
in
conjunction
with
the
mayor's
fossil
fuel
free
initiative,
though
a
lot
of
f's
in
a
row
there,
the
bpda
is
in
the
process
of
developing
a
net
zero
carbon
standard
to
be
included
in
article
37
of
the
project
review
process
known
as
zero
net
carbon
zoning.
L
That
initiative
is
going
to
assess
and
identify
strategies
to
strengthen
green
building
zoning
requirements
to
a
zero
net
carbon
standard
for
new
construction,
most
of
the
carbon
that
comes
from
a
building
comes
in
its
construction,
and
so
that's
the
reason
that
we
are
focused
on
this
aspect
of
the
work
together.
This
pilot
and
the
zero
net
carbon
building
initiative
will
advance
building
practices
and
cut
carbon
emissions.
Take
a
big
step
forward
towards
meeting
our
goal
of
becoming
carbon
neutral
by
2050..
L
It's
also
important
to
mention
that
over
the
last
several
months,
we've
been
working
closely
with
a
team
of
stakeholders
inside
and
out
drafting
the
zoning
updates
that
are
going
to
identify
policies
and
procedures
we'll
be
implementing.
Our
next
step
will
be
a
public
meeting
at
the
end
of
the
month.
On
september,
28th
we'll
begin
the
net
regulatory
adoption
process
of
these
zoning
changes.
L
We
applaud
the
mayor's
action
to
further
establish
boss
as
a
national
leader
in
the
area
on
decarbonizing
buildings
and
look
forward
to
working
together
with
the
council
and
others
to
ensure
a
greener
city
for
all.
This
is
all
in
addition
to
the
decarbonization
of
our
own
portfolio,
real
estate,
that
we've
undertaken
and
we're
we've
been.
We
announced
a
couple
of
months
ago
that
we
and
we've
had
that
work
underway
in
our
own
real
estate
portfolio.
L
A
Thank
you,
chief
jemison,
and
just
thank
you
again
to
everyone
from
administration
for
taking
time
out
this
morning
to
be
here
to
talk
to
us
about
this
homework
petition
in
the
city,
our
collective
vision
for
a
fossil
fuel
free
future.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
now
over
to
my
council
colleagues
for
questions,
I'm
going
to
start
with
counselor
candelata.
C
B
You
know
so
from
my
perspective,
I'm
not
sure
that
we
could
say
exactly
how
I
mean,
I
think,
to
be
honest
with
you.
This
train
was
already
running
we've,
as,
as
chief
jamison
noted,
we've
been
already
working
on
the
net
zero
zoning
code,
we've
been
engaging
with
the
state,
but
I
think
that
it
does
make
it
very
clear.
B
B
So
it's
not
that
this
is
a
new
conversation,
but
I
do
think
this
is
a
part
of
sort
of
all
the
ways
we
were
already
moving
towards
net
zero
and
I
don't
think
we
should
underestimate
the
the
real
potential
for
boston
to
set
an
example
about
how
we
do
this
in
a
in
a
really
strong
just
transition
focused
way.
So
I
think,
from
my
perspective,
as
you've
already
heard,
a
lot
of
work
was
being
done
already.
Moh
was
already
moving
this
in
terms
of
its
work
around
affordable
housing.
C
Thank
you,
chief
white
hammond
and
the
other
question
that
I
have
is
probably
for
chief
dylan,
and
I
think
it's
regarding
a
comment
that
counselor
bach
made
earlier
about
not
dissentivizing
right,
building,
affordable
housing,
because
we
know
that
the
state
has
made
it
so
that
labs
and
hospitals
are
not
included
in
this.
And
so
do
you
have
you
know
what
are
your
ideas
about?
How
we
make
sure
that
we're
not
incentivizing
people
from
building
housing.
K
K
It
is
their
mission,
it's
why
they
wake
up
in
the
morning,
so
I
don't
think
they're
going
to
be
disincentivized
by
continuing
to
to
work
on
their
what
work
on
their
on
their
the
reason
that
they
they
exist.
I
do
think,
though,
that
the
requirements
a
year
old,
I
think
we
have
to
monitor
it
very
carefully
and
say
what
obstacles
are
any
of
our
affordable
housing
developers.
Realizing
is
it
supply
chain?
Is
it
cost?
Is
it
servicing?
K
You
know
systems
out,
so
I
think
we
need
to
be
very
close,
stay
close
to
it
and
and
make
sure
as
an
administration
that
we're
all
supporting
our
affordable
housing
developers
if
they
run
into
any
any
significant
issue
or
if
we
start
seeing
trends.
So
I
think
the
answer
is
the
simple
answer
is
no
we're
not
going
to
disincentivize,
but
I
think
we
need
to
to
really
be
very
intentional
about
our
ongoing
support.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
piano
that's
here.
I
also
wanted
to
highlight
my
pharma
colleague
that
did
a
lot
of
great
work
on
this
issue.
Matt
o'malley
working
with
working
with
this
administration
team.
That's
here
as
well,
one
of
the
issues
that
I've
always
been
concerned
with
I've
worked
with
sheila
dylan
on
it
in
in
others,
and
I
was
with
mayor
woo
when
the
concerned
scientists
of
america
stated
that
chinatown
had
the
highest
asthma
rate
of
any
neighborhood
in
in
massachusetts.
D
D
B
B
I
think
we
are
going
to
need
to
look
at
every
development
we're
going
to
need
to
ask
the
question-
and
this
is
a
conversation
we've
already
been
having
with
the
bpda.
We
boston
has
made
a
choice
that
we're
going
to
look
at
nature-based
solutions
and
all
of
the
work
that
we
do
as
much
as
we
possibly
can,
and
so
I
think,
looking
at
every
development
looking
at.
B
How
can
we
maximize
the
ability
to
plant
trees
which
do
a
lot
of
important
work
both
in
mitigating
some
of
the
impact
of
mission
emissions,
but
also
helping
us
respond
when
it
they
help
keep
us
cooler.
They
help
clean
the
air,
they
have
a
number
of
different
roles
and
how
we
maximize
open
space
because,
on
the
whole,
open
space
doesn't
emit
and
open
space.
You
know,
creates
an
opportunity
for
folks
to
have
some
respite.
So
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
really
look
at.
B
I
think
this
home
repetition
is
moving
us
to
an
ordinance.
That's
that's
helping
us
to
do
the
other
piece,
so
we
have
to
reduce
the
amount
of
missions
we're
putting
out,
and
we
also
have
to
looking
at
the
ways
that
we
can
counteract
the
emissions
that
are
there,
and
I
think
we
have
to
have
a
robust
strategy
on
both
sides
in
every
single
development.
So
really
looking
at
both
the
emissions
and
side
of
it
and
the
resilient
side.
How
are
we
making
sure
that
our
our
buildings
are
doing
it?
B
B
I
saw
all
of
the
same
folks
at
that
because
we
are
all
in
that
same
conversation
about
how
do
we
move
people
away
from
polluting
forms
of
transportation
that
impact
their
own
health
and
their
neighbors
to
the
kinds
of
forms
of
transportation
that
one
not
only
do
they
not
emit,
but
they
may
help
us
drop
a
few
pounds
and
help
us
deal
with
some
issues
around
heart
disease
and
other
negative
impacts.
I
know
at
that
press
conference
we
mentioned
that
both
councilor
bach
and
myself.
B
B
Development
has
to
be
looked
at
through
that
lens,
and
so
I
know
when,
when
developers
come
forward,
we're
also
asking
them
things
like
how
many
bike
racks.
Are
you
installing
in
your
building?
Because
if
people
want
to
use
low
emitting
forms
of
transportation,
they
have
to
have
a
place
to
put
them.
They
have
to
have
as
much
consideration
as
being
put
on
cars
and
other
forms
of
transportation
that
are
not
so
helpful
to
us.
So
that
would
be.
It
is
a
that's
a
big
question.
B
D
D
D
So
I
think
I
think,
there's
more.
We
need
to
do
as
a
city
to
make
sure
residents
in
chinatown
have
the
same
open
space
and
trees
as
as
any
other
neighborhood,
and
sometimes
I
get
frustrated
at
that
that
we
that
we
don't,
but
I'm
gonna,
continue
to
advocate
that
you
know
I
support
this
proposal,
but
support
me
on
you
know
ensuring
chinatown
has
more
open
space
and
and
has
more
trees
and
dealing
with
some
of
this
environmental
challenges
as
well.
I
have
I
have
no
further
comments.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
E
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair,
and
thanks
again
to
all
the
panelists
I
think,
just
like
I
was
thinking
counselor
lara
asked
one
of
my
questions.
I
I
guess
what
I
was
thinking
about
is
the
fact
that
if
we
do
this
right,
I
think
that
there's
the
opportunity
to
really
solve
like
a
technology
problem
like
what
I
hear
from
you
know
our
our
smaller
housing
developers,
including
our
affordable
housing
developers,
is
you
know
what
we
really
need.
E
Is
these
fossil
fuel
free
systems
to
be
kind
of
just
like
standard
stuff
that
everyone
is
used
to
doing
that
are
easy
to
get
the
parts
for
etc,
and
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
chicken
and
egg
thing
where
it's
like
when
they're,
not
the
standard,
then
they're
more
expensive,
which
then
makes
them
something
that
people
don't
necessarily
want
to.
Do
you
have
that
incentive
problem,
but
of
course,
if
we
could
just
drive
the
market,
then
that
would
change
it.
So
I
that's
why
to
me.
E
I
just
want
to
flag
again
that
to
me
that's
the
really
important
sort
of
like
magical
balance
to
get
right
with
transition
timelines.
Here
is
like
how
are
we
doing
things
that
are
aggressive
enough,
that
it
makes
everybody
who
thought
that
they
could
just
go
on
installing
fossil
fuel-based
systems
for
another
couple
of
decades
realize
that
they
need
alternatives,
but
also
gives
enough
heads
up
that
those
alternatives
can
come
into
place,
because
my
sense
is:
is
that
for
it
to
really
work
for
our
affordable
housing
developers
in
the
long
term?
E
It
just
needs
to
become
more
of
a
norm
in
the
residential
market,
and
you
know-
and
I
think
I
think
the
the
good
news
on
the
on
the
labor
side
is
that
the
more
the
more
we're
building
smart
green
buildings,
the
more
that
we
need,
frankly,
like
the
expertise
that
folks
get
in
apprenticeship,
programs
and
and
trades
training
programs,
because
you
know
these
buildings
have
to
be
have
to
be
smart
and
tight
and
well
well
made.
So
I
don't
think,
there's
any
tension
there.
E
I
think
it's
just
making
sure
what
I
was
flagging
before
is
just
both
affordable
and
even
market
residential.
I'm
I'm
experiencing
in
district
8.
This
spin,
that
everyone's
experiencing
of
like
every
building,
wants
to
be
a
lab,
and
and
for
me
I
just-
I
really
want
people
to
be
able
to
live
in
the
city
of
boston.
So
I
think
it's
going
to
be
important
for
us
to
get
that
right,
but
I
know
sheila.
E
E
I
know
I
think
I
think
counselor
lara
will
serve
on
the
berto
committee
for
the
council,
but
like
let's
get
all
that
in
like
it
feels
to
me,
like
all
this
stuff
can
come
together
in
a
really
excellent
way
that
incentivizes
everybody
and
and
doesn't
doesn't
hold
us
back
on
any
fronts,
but
it
like
kind
of
all
needs
to
line
up.
So
I
don't
know
she'll.
If
you
wanted
to
speak
a
little
bit,
yeah.
K
I'm
I'm
going
to
hand
this
over
to
joe.
He
can
briefly
kind
of
summarize
because
he's
like
in
it
every
single
day.
I
do
want
to
quickly
respond,
though
I'm
not
worried
about
the
larger
rental
owners
and
management
companies,
so
you
know
they're
going
to
figure
it
out
they're,
going
to
they're
going
to
get
the
systems
working
and
they're
going
to
be
able
to
maintain
them.
We
are
building
a
lot
more
affordable
home
ownership.
K
So
I
I
really
I
agree
with
you
100
that
we
need
to
be
able
so
when
mr
mrs
jones's
new
home
system,
when
the
system
goes
out,
that
they
can
call
anyone
and
they
can
get
their
their
systems
repaired
or
replaced.
So
I
think
it's
a
really
very
critical
issue
that
you're
raising
but
joe,
can
you
summarize
very
quickly
the
the
standard
that
we're
now
that
has
to
have
in
place.
M
M
There
is
a
real
balance
to
be
struck
in
terms
of
achieving
the
the
objectives
of
net
zero
carbon
emissions,
but
without
necessarily
getting
too
far
out
in
front
of
the
technology.
So
the
the
guidelines
were
designed
to
be
not
prescriptive
in
terms
of
the
specific
building,
technologies
or
or
equipment
to
be
used,
but
rather
to
set
forth
a
number
of
paths
that
different
development
teams
could
use
in
terms
of
building
insulation
and
envelope
design
appliances
to
be
used.
E
Great
thanks
so
much
joe
no
and
I
think
that's
great
work
and-
and
I
think
it's
a
it's-
a
good
kind,
of
example,
of
the
type
of
work
that
the
city
has
to
do
on
this,
but
but
just
again
to
to
repeat,
because
I've
got
to
jump
off
the
call
in
a
minute.
Madam
chair
just
to
say
that,
like
to
me,
it
seems
like
there
are
so
many
steps
here
and
there's
like
writing
the
best
possible
ordinance
and
there's
getting
all
these
pieces
aligned
and
like
for
us
to
take
any
of
those
steps.
E
We
need
to
take
this
first
step
of
raising
our
hand
and
saying
to
the
state
hey
we
want
to
do
this.
We
want
to
do
this
right
I'll
say
not
for
nothing
also,
but
the
technical
expertise
and
kind
of
governance
know-how
on
this
call,
I
think,
is
another
part
of
the
argument
for
boston
doing
this,
because
I
think
that
you
know
a
lot
of
our
smaller
towns.
Well,
it's
true
that
they're,
smaller
and
not
as
complicated
and
don't
have
as
much
of
a
market.
E
They
they
also
don't
necessarily
have
the
kind
of
the
deep
bench
in
terms
of
staff
and
know-how
and
expertise
that
we
have
here
in
the
city
of
boston.
So
I
think
the
opportunity
for
us
to
kind
of
drive
what's
the
most
effective
direction
here,
to
really
hit
our
carbon,
her
carbon
goals,
that's
another
piece
of
the
puzzle,
so
thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair.
Those
are
all
my
questions.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
to
the
panel.
A
lot
of
my
questions
have
been
asked,
but
I
just
want
to
you
know,
reiterate
making
sure
that
you
know
we're
using
this
moment
as
economic
justice
as
well,
so
that
we're
not
you
know
putting
anyone
out
of
the
game
when
it
comes
to
developers-
or
you
know,
to
your
point.
Chief
dylan
are
our
homeowners.
So
getting
that
timeline
right,
so
my
my
question
would
be.
B
So
one
of
our
colleagues-
that's
not
on
the
call
but
who
has
been
in
the
loop
is-
is
chief
edu.
But
I
I
will
say
it's
hard
to
study
the
economics
when
we
don't
yet
know
what
the
policy
parameters
are
are
yet
in
terms
of
sort
of
what
we'd
be
asking
and
those
sort
of
things.
So
I
think
I
think
what
you're
raising
should
be
and
can
be
a
central
part
of
how
we
do
the
ordinance
process
as
we
really
sort
of
sit
down
and
look
at
what
what's
that
timeline?
B
Look
like
how
do
we
you
know
so
there
I
think
you're
raising
a
key
question
and
I
will
say,
as
was
noted
by
my
colleague,
oliver
stella's
garcia.
We
both
have
been
able
to
sort
of
talk
and
strong
since
that
environmental
and
economic
just
have
to
come
together
in
the
way
we
approach
the
green
new
deal.
So
there
is
no
way
to
move
this
forward
without
responding
to
the
things
that
you
are
raising
and
would
love
to
continue
that
conversation
we're
still
pretty
early.
F
K
K
If
we're
starting
to
see
a
trend,
if
our
requirements
are
becoming
like
burdensome
we're,
not
giving
our
our
our
contractors
the
support
that
they
need
the
developers
that
they
need
we're,
seeing
people
or
businesses
stopping
you,
know
no
longer
participating,
then
we've
got
to
we've
got
to
respond
very
very
quickly.
We
got
to
pivot
and
we
got
to
respond
and
we
got
to
give
support.
So
I
think
part
of
this
is,
let's
you
know,
develop
really
good
standards,
fair
standards,
standards
that
that
everybody
can
come
together
on.
K
This
has
to
be
about
racial
justice.
This
has
to
be
about
improving
the
environment.
We
can't
lose
any
affordable
housing.
We
can't
lose
economic
participation,
so
I
I
think
it's
fair
standards,
good
standards,
bold
standards
and
then
ongoing
evaluation
and
support,
but
no
I
haven't,
we
haven't
seen
it
yet
today.
F
Thank
you,
and
then
just
I
know,
council
block
has
mentioned
this
just
getting
it
right,
for
you
know,
renters
homeowners
in
in
that
space
as
well.
I
think
that
timeline
needs
to.
You
know,
make
sure
that
we're
not
pricing
people
out
of
the
city
of
boston
through
to
doing
this
as
well.
But,
madam
chair
are,
we
are
we
not
talking
about
the
language
in
the
homeroom
petition
at
the
moment,
we're
gonna
say.
A
If
you
have
comments
about
the
language
and
the
homework
petition
you
can
feel
free
to,
you
can
feel
free
to
to
mention
them
and
bring
them
up
right
now.
There
are.
There
are
five
sections,
it's
a
pretty
short
homo
petition
to
the
state
house,
but
you
can
feel
free
to
mention
any
concerns
you
may
have
or
thoughts.
F
B
My
understanding
is
that
we
wanted
to
negotiate
that
with
the
city
council
and
we
had
so.
The
the
reality
is
that
there
was
a
little
bit
of
a
time
crunch,
because
there's
only
10
communities
allowed
to
participate,
and
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
filed
it.
So
we
were
in
line
to
actually
be
able
to
participate,
but
not
to
fill
it
with
details
that
we
felt
should
be
negotiated
with
you.
B
So
we
had
had
a
conversation
with
counselor
lotta
early
on
to
make
sure
it
clarifies
the
intention
to
get
it
right
in
terms
of
who's
in
the
mix.
But
we
felt
like
those
kinds
of
details
should
be
done
together
in
the
ordinance
process,
not
codified
in
the
home
repetition
in
a
way
that
might
we
might
come
to
do
our
ordinance
process?
Think
something
should
be
different,
but
could
not
change
it
because
we'd
already
put
it
in
the
in
the
home
repetition.
F
All
right,
that's
good
to
know,
and
I
would
I
would
just
want
to
name
you
know
I.
I
know
we
have
environmental
justice
and
a
lot
of
these
terms,
or
you
know
language
in
this
is
overlapping,
but
I
would
want
to
name
that
rachel
equity-
you
know
somewhere,
is
on
there
and
then
also
like
the
impacts
on
what
the
advisory
committee
will
be.
You
know,
reporting
back
to
the
city
is
also
the
impacts
of
you
know
racial
equity
and
of
economic
justice
as
well.
B
But
I
will
say
we
already
have
the
expectation
that
that
that
that
those
kinds
of
nitty-gritty
details
would
be
part
of
the
next
step
in
the
ordinance
process
led
by
councillor
lara
so
that
those
have
already
been
discussed.
But
council
allowed
you.
You
may
want
to
address
sort
of
your
thoughts
about
what
the
best
approach
is.
A
F
A
C
Thank
you
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
share
a
little
bit
about.
I
wanted
to
just
affirm
counselor
warrell's
request.
I
think
that
the
process
that
we've
been
looking
at
and
how
we've
been
having
the
conversation
is
to
do
it
in
a
similar
way,
how
we
did
the
commission
for
black
men
and
boys
where
the
city
council
did
offer
and
then
the
mayor
had,
and
we
kind
of
like
it
was
a
collaborative
process
where
we
selected
who
the
members
were.
C
That
is
the
intention,
but
also
you
know
being
honest,
that
it's
not
necessarily
being
explicit
that
it's
not
being
shared
explicitly
on
the
whole
petition.
I
would
advocate
that
if
there
are
changes
to
the
language
that
we
make
those
changes
here
during
this
hearing,
we
are
in
a
time
crunch
in
terms
of
like
getting
it
up
to
the
state,
getting
the
homo
position
up
to
the
state
house
to
make
sure
that
we
hold
our
spot.
C
And
so
our
attempt
is
to
make
the
whole
new
petition
as
open-ended
as
possible,
so
that
we
can
have
the
conversation
in
the
ordinance
process
about
how
everything
looks
like,
and
so,
if
making
it
less
specific,
so
that
we
can
or
just
basically
making
it
less
specific
or
adding
different
language
here.
That
makes
it
so
that
everybody
feels
on
it
because
we
would
have
to
have,
I
think
another.
B
It
is
our
deep
hope
that
this
could
move
forward
in
this
session,
because
it
it
is
possible
that
if
we
take
longer,
we
will
lose
our
place
in
life.
So
that's
that
is
the
reality
and
I
think
so.
I
think
we
try
to
leave
it.
Leave
it
vague
enough
that
it
gave
us
space
to
move
forward
because,
yes,
there
are
other
municipalities,
who've
already
filed
these
and
others
in
consideration
right
now
and
doi
is
about.
B
It
is
also
working
on
sort
of
how
they're
going
to
regulate
those
so
economic
justice,
racial
justice,
clearly
things
we
wanted
to
to
be
included,
so
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
those
specific
things.
I
would
be
concerned
if
it
means
delaying
the
process,
but
if
it
can
be
done
easily,
then
I
I'm.
I
think
they
are
that's
reflective
of
ideas
and
conversations
that
we've
already
had
so.
A
A
N
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Let
me
just
state
first,
I
think,
especially
when
we're
trying
to
rush
this
through
here
and
vote
next
week.
This
isn't
ready
to
vote
on
next
week,
we're
looking
to
bass,
ban
gas
laterals
to
all
all
all
new
construction.
Here,
that's
a
big
big
thing
that
we're
we're
going
to
do
and
for
us
to
think
that
we'll
be
able
to
do
this
and
not
affect
the
economy
not
affect
what
happens
in
building
in
boston.
I
just
think
is
is
absurd.
N
That
we're
actually
here
saying
this,
we'll
need
a
will
need
a
in-person
working
session
to
have
it
tomorrow.
If
we're
in
such
a
rush,
we'll
need
an
in-person
working
session.
That's
just
a
couple
points.
We
we
started
sheila.
I
think
it
was
you
that
not
on
the
call
sheila
dillon
here
talk
about
incentives.
O
A
N
Yeah,
okay,
so
if
we're
going
to
talk
about
incentivizing,
for
instance,
if
we
just
incentivize
new
new
buildings
to
be
able,
we
would
tell
them
that
we
would
cut
a
year
or
two
years
off
your
planning
process.
Everyone
would
be
in
line
to
do
electrical
everyone,
but
there's
no
incentives
like
that
drop
block
took
eight
years
to
plan.
If
that
were
five
years,
they'd
sign
on
to
electric
all
day
long,
we're
not
incentivizing
the
the
the
building
community
at
all.
B
So
I
think
that
the
thing
is
that,
and
we
sort
of
just
have
there's
two
parts
to
this
process.
The
first
is
to
say
we
have
an
intention
to
create
an
ordinance,
so
that
has
to
be
filed
now.
The
second
is
to
actually
write
the
ordinance
and
the
things
that
you're
you're
raising
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
would
need
to
negotiate
for
the
actual
ordinance.
So
the
thing
that
has
to
be
rushed
is
to
just
say:
yes,
we
are
going
to
begin
an
ordinance
process.
B
B
So
the
whole
petition
just
says:
hey
we
want.
We
want
to
write
an
ordinance,
we're
going
to
write
an
ordinance,
then
all
of
those
things
that
you're
raising-
which
I
think
there's
some
really
exciting
ideas
that
you've
raised
those
are
part
of
the
actual
ordinance
process.
So
that's
why
we
we
aren't
yet
talking
about
that,
because
we
have
to
put
together
a
committee
of
people
that
would
even
help
lead
this
process
figure
out.
The
community
engagement
people
will
have
to
put
forward
lots
of
suggestions.
N
Where,
when
we
have
the
conversations,
we
should
have
someone
on
this
on
this
a
professional
to
talk
about
the
electric
grid,
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
electric
grid
in
the
next
in
the
next
couple
years,
if
we
go
all
electric-
and
I
know
I
know
from
experience-
that
electric
heat
is
a
lot
more
expensive
than
gas,
so
there's
real
concerns
for
the
little
person
here.
The
the
large
developers
no
problem
give
the
city
whatever
you
want,
we'll
do
electrical,
but
there's
still
no
real
incentive
there
to
do
this.
N
I
think
that's
everybody,
everybody,
I
mean
gas
bills.
Electric
bills
are
all
500
a
month.
Now,
that's
everybody
and
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
do
anything
in
this
ordinance
here.
That
will
speak
to
that.
I
think
your
energy
costs,
especially
with
this
happening
here,
are
going
to
double.
I
think
it's
a
dangerous
thing
that
we're
looking
to
do
here.
I
understand
I
understand
that
we're
trying
to
decarbonize,
but
I
believe
that
the
way
in
doing
that
is
in
incentivizing
and
not
in
blocking
gas
laterals.
N
It
makes
me
feel
a
little
better
that
this
is
just
just
going
to
be
a
placeholder
and
the
ordinance
will
actually-
and
this
is
you,
madam
chair-
we'll
actually
be
in
person
in
rooms
working
this
out
to
face
to
face,
because
the
zoom
just
doesn't
work,
especially
when
you're
doing
intricate.
I
mean
we're
talking
about
legislation
here
that
we
want
to
just
rush
and
because
the
other
side
of
the
hall
wants
us
to
rush
this
across
we're
going
to
bring
this
to
a
boat.
N
A
Baker,
if,
if
you're
done
with
your
questions,
thank
you
I
you
are
not
the
lone
vote
here.
You
person
here
this
homeworld
petition.
The
language
in
here
is
very
general,
and
it
is
us,
as
reverend
mariama
stated,
raising
our
hands
saying
that
we
want
to
be
considered
as
one
of
as
part
of
the
pilot
program,
so
we
can
think
about
so
that
we
can
begin
to
think
about
what
an
ordinance
looks
like
to
create
those
fossil
fuel
standards.
It's
also
feel-free
standards
which
we
have
not
even
yet
established.
A
A
I
do
think
that
it
is
a
fair
timeline
for
us
to
consider,
but
I
do
hear
your
concerns
about
oftentimes
feeling
like
we're
moving
too
quickly
here.
This
is
not
something
where
I
feel
like
we
will
need
to
have.
You
know
significant
deliberations
on,
because
the
language
is
general
and
it's
just
about
our
participation
before
we
can
move
forward.
N
So
the
next,
so
as
this
moves
forward,
we'll
be
in
the
chamber,
we'll
have
actual
experts
here
to
talk
about
things
like
the
electric
grid
and
I
think
mariama
or
chief
hammond
talked
about
transitioning
into
jobs.
I'd
love
to
see
what
that
looks
like,
because
I,
I
think
the
unions,
the
pipe
fitters,
the
pipe
fitters
and
the
plumbers
are
really
concerned
about
this,
because
this
comes
directly
at
their
livelihood
and
we
we
run
the
risk
of.
N
We
run
the
risk
of
companies
companies
going
in
and
doing
the
underbid
thing
that
don't
have
to
pay
union
labor
that
don't
have
to
go
by
these
standards.
So
this
shouldn't
be
rushed.
I
I
would
expect
that
when
we
go
into
to
really
talk
about
this,
when
the
ordinance
is
front
of
in
in
front
of
us
when
we're
talking
about
banning
all
gas
laterals
in
the
city
of
boston,
banning
that
we
have
a
real
conversation
in
person
and
we
have
a
balanced
balance
committee
hearing.
Thank
you.
Madame.
A
Baker,
thank
you.
You
missed
the
beginning
of
the
hearing
where
myself
and
other
counselors
mentioned
how
this
is
happening
in
partnership
with
the
building
trades.
Before
this
meeting,
I
had
a
conversation
with
folks
in
the
building
trades
about
this
homeworld
petition.
So
I
think
everything
that
you're
stating
is
everyone
is
considering
we
we
are
considering
having
everyone
at
the
table
to
be
part
of
this
discussion
right.
This
is
a
partnership.
A
It
was
how
we're
building
a
city
that
we
want
to
see,
that
is
addressing
the
issues
of
climate
justice,
but
also
understanding
the
importance
of
building
in
our
city
and
the
importance
of
our
trades,
having
the
expertise
necessary
to
build
in
a
fossil
free
way
right
that
expertise
is
going
to
live
in
our
building
trades,
and
I
think
that
we
all
acknowledge
that
and
so
having
everyone.
Part
of
this
conversation
is
what's
happening,
it's
what
has
already
been
happening.
A
N
Council
law,
more
I'm
not
done
more
than
the
building
trades.
We
need
small
developers
here.
We
need
people
that
can
talk
to
the
electrical
grid.
It's
more
than
just
the
building
trades
here,
and
the
people
that
are
in
charge
of
these
departments
should
have
that
should
stay
on
this
until
till
the
end,
because
I
didn't
have
any.
I
didn't
have
any
department
head
here
to
ask
a
question.
Yeah
I
mean.
B
A
N
L
So
I
think
the
answer
is
going
to
be.
There
will
be
a
reaction.
I
think
the
question
is:
are
we
going
to
introduce
the
these
new
rules
in
a
way
where
all
of
the
interests
involve
have
a
chance
to
sort
of
bring
their
concerns
forward
and
identify
the
right
way
to
do
it?
The
right
phasing,
the
right,
the
right
details,
the
right
exemptions?
L
I
think
we're
going
to
have
a
process
like
the
one
we've
been
doing
with
zoning
we've
had
naop
and
uoi,
and
all
the
other
interest
groups
in
the
tree
in
the
business,
voicing
their
opinions
and
questions
and
concerns
we're
going
to
have
a
collaborative
process
of
implementation,
because
that's
the
only
way
that
it's
the
only
way
we're
going
to
do
it.
I
do
we
don't
want
to
put
any
of
the
people.
You've
described
out
of
business,
so
we
have
to
do
this
in
a
way
that
they're
they're
at
the
table.
L
N
And
justin
just
a
point
to
put
in
your
head:
if
we
incentivize
and
cut
years
off,
the
planning
process
drop
block
was
eight
years
before
they
got
a
shovel
in
the
ground,
we're
now
over
it
over
at
columbia.
Point
in
our
fifth
year
of
of
of
planning
so
cut
some
years
off
that
if
people
agree
to
go
electric,
I
think
you
won't
have
a
problem.
A
E
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
say
very
briefly,
because
the
whole
conversation
about
the
home
rule
that
people
should
understand
that
this
is
a
super
unusual
situation
where
in
some
ways,
I
wouldn't
even
spend
that
much
time
working
on
the
home
rule.
Even
on
the
question
of
like
how
the
committee
set
up
because
this
home
rule,
usually
they
only
count
if
they
actually
get
passed
at
the
state
level,
but
in
this
case
this
legislature
decided
to
use
the
filing
of
a
home
rule
as
the
way
of
raising
your
hand.
E
So
the
funny
thing
is
like
we're,
probably
going
to
have
to
reach
an
agreement
council
and
mayor
informally
about
how
to
constitute
the
committee
and
work
on
the
ordinance
before
such
a
home
rule
would
ever
like
pass
the
legislature,
but
it
matters
when
we
file
it,
as
people
have
been
saying
in
relationship
to
dor
issuing
the
rules
next
summer.
So
I
just
wanted
to
flag
for
everybody
that
it's
a
really
unusual
situation
where
just
the
filing
of
a
home
rule
is
a
ticket
punch
and
that's
not
normal,
and
it's
not
how
it
usually
works.
E
A
P
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
good
morning.
Everybody
apologies
that
I'm
late.
So
if
my
comments
and
questions
are
repetitive,
I
am
so
sorry
I'll
try
to
be
brief,
but
just
happy
to
be
here
as
a
district.
One
city
councilor
representing
my
hometown
of
east
boston,
which
is
in
an
environmental
justice
community
as
well
as
charlestown
in
the
north
end,
and
I
for
one,
am
excited
about
this.
I
think
that
this
is
a
pathway
to
adjust
transition
to
a
clean
energy
future,
all
the
language
that
everyone's
been
using.
P
So
I
just
want
to
thank
the
administration,
of
course,
the
sponsor
council
lara
for
hard
work
and
others
on
this
call
for
for
acting
swiftly
and
I
haven't
met
the
green
deal
advisor
oliver
sellers
garcia.
So
I
just
want
to
say
hello
and
thank
you
again
for
your
work
and
look
forward
to
working
with
you
so
similar
to
counselor
warrell.
So
I
have
just,
I
think,
a
friendly
suggestion
for
the
ordinance.
P
I
know
it's
probably
not
here
for
this
conversation,
given
the
fact
that
it's
been
said
that
this
is
just
us
raising
our
hand,
but
I
also
had
questions
about
who
the
players
are.
That
would
be
on
the
committee
helping
to
craft
this,
as
well
as
oversight
and
accountability
moving
forward,
and
you
know
I'm
always
in
the
mindset
that
it's
just
good
governance
to
memorialize
the
council's
role
in
appointments
from
an
oversight
standpoint,
and
so
my
friendly
suggestion
for
maybe
the
next
conversation
based
on
counselor
warrell's
comments.
P
Just
about
the
city
council's
ability
to
appoint
somebody
is
just
simply
adding
a
line
that
they,
you
know
they
will
be
appointed
by
the
mayor
or
maybe
not.
We
can
work
that
out,
but
no
matter
what
they
have
to
come
through
the
boston
city,
council,
maybe
environmental
justice
committee
and
and
be
approved,
and
we
already
do
this
with
dba
appointments
and
other
appointments.
So
that
is
just
a
suggestion
that
I
will
submit
to
the
chair
and
also
the
maker
of
this,
and
maybe
we
can
negotiate
that
moving
forward.
P
A
P
Okay,
great-
and
I
I
think
if,
if
I
could
just
underscore
that,
I
think
it
should
come
through
the
environmental
justice
committee
just
to
make
sure
that
we
are
taking
in
in
all
of
that
and
making
sure
that
you
know
we
we
do
have
that
lens
in
in
whoever
and
for
whoever
we
decide
to
be
on
this
advisory
committee.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
I
think
my
my
other
question
is
more
of
a
comment
and
suggestion
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
about
incentivizing
builders
right
and
it's.
P
It's
already
been
mentioned
that
you
know
innovation.
Construction
materials
are
too
expensive,
and
I
was
thinking
about
this
because
I'm
thinking
about
you
know
federal
money
coming
down
the
pike
for
waterfront
timing,
and
so
when
I
was
reviewing
the
inflation
reduction
act
and
this
could
have
been
discussed
already
so
apologies
again,
but
in
the
inflation
reduction
act,
which
was
built
back
better
in
the
infrastructure
bill.
P
My
understanding,
I'm
just
looking
at
my
notes
to
make
sure
I
don't
get
it
wrong,
but
the
maximum
maximum
allowable
benefit
is
supposed
to
expand
in
2023
from
1.88
cents
per
square
foot
to
five
dollars
per
square
foot.
So
I
don't
know
how
this
aligns
with
what
we're
trying
to
do
here,
and
you
know
I
think
for
me.
P
I
would
want
to
ensure
that
there's
a
push
from
the
city
to
whomever
just
to
make
sure
that
they
want
to
know
that
these
tax
tax
credits
are
available
as
a
way
to
save
money
and
build
green,
but
also
coordinate
with
them
in
a
more
affordable
way,
either
by
just
providing
them.
A
resource
guide
like
this
is
what
you
can
do
to
save
money
and
having
that
from
come
from
the
city
and
just
making
sure
that
we're
coordinating
and
making
it
easier
for
folks
just
to
act
to
access
those
tax
credits.
P
H
Yes,
counselor,
thank
you.
So
I
I
will
just
say:
that's
a
really
good
flag
and
we
are
working
on
that.
It's
really
one
of
the
big
pieces
that
we're
looking
to
get
more
definition
on
and
see
how
this
can
be
part
of
a
package
that
supports
the
restriction
of
fossil
fuels.
So
I
think
I
just
want
to
reiterate
it's.
H
But
we
are
fortunate
to
be
in
a
situation
where
we
have
new
resources
if
you've
identified
that
as
well
as
ones
that
we
can
create
ourselves
to
really
make
this
more
of
a
a
package
for
the
development
of
fossil
fuel-free
buildings
than
necessarily
just
you
know,
the
gas
is
getting
cut
off.
So
that's
a
really
good
point
and
we'll
we'll
be
working
on
that
and
hope
to
share
more
information.
A
Councillor
coletta,
I
don't
have
really
any
further
questions.
I
think
a
lot
of
has
been
discussed,
but
I'm
just
curious.
You
know
it's
always
great
when
we
can
be
the
first
and
we
can
be
setting
an
example,
but
I
wonder
if
we
are
learning
best
practices
from
other
cities
that
have
engaged
in
this
effort
and
what
we
can
learn
from
them,
especially
when
it
comes
to
ensuring
that
we
are
not
having.
H
H
H
A
I
A
I
right
now
thank
you
for
being
here.
I
don't
know
if
any
of
my
council
colleagues
have
any
further
questions,
but
if
not,
we
are
going
to
turn
it
over
to
public
testimony.
We
have
some
folks
who
have
signed
up
for
public
testimony,
so
I
thank
you,
members
of
the
administration
for
being
here
and
we're
going
to
transition.
If
my
council
colleagues
have
no
further
questions.
A
A
Q
Q
They're
aggressively
presenting
plans
for
so-called
fossil
free
gases
to
deliver
to
our
homes,
as
if
they
will
be
a
solution
to
the
pollution
we
now
suffer
from.
I
know
all
about
fossils.
In
fact,
some
of
my
grandchildren
think
I
am
one
because
apparently
I
went
through
school
and
college
and
brought
up
their
parents
without
ever
having
a
cell
phone,
but
the
term
fossil
free
only
refers
to
the
origins
of
a
fuel
identifying
it
as
having
been
formed
from
plants
and
microorganisms
that
existed
millions
of
years
ago.
Q
It
tells
us
nothing
about
the
properties
of
this
fuel
or
whether
it
will
be
polluting
when
it's
used
now
the
gases
being
proposed,
which
are
indeed
fossil
free,
are
themselves
polluting.
One
renewable
natural
gas
is
methane,
as
shakespeare
might
say
what
we
call
methane
by
any
other
name,
smells
burns
and
pollutes
the
same.
The
other
hydrogen
is
a
significant
greenhouse
gas
very
prone
to
leaks.
It
generates
toxic,
nitrous
oxides
when
it's
burnt
in
air.
It
raises
the
risks
of
explosions
in
homes,
because
it's
extremely
flammable.
A
R
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
and
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
counselors.
My
name
is
andy
krasner,
I'm
the
program
manager
for
climate
and
health
for
greater
boston
positions
for
social
responsibility,
which
is
a
member
of
the
boston,
clean
energy
coalition,
and
I'm
a
long
time
volunteer
with
mothers
out
front
jp
team.
The
organizations
I
represent
are
all
in
favor
of
passing
this
homeworld
petition,
which
allows
boston
the
possibility
to
participate
in
the
10-town
demonstration
project.
We
want
to
thank
the
council
for
unanimously
declaring
that
climate
crisis
is
a
health
emergency.
R
R
R
R
All
of
boston's
children
would
benefit
from
improved
both
indoor
and
outdoor
air
quality
that
comes
with
all
electric
buildings.
As
you
know,
buildings
make
up
more
than
70
percent
of
boston's
emissions
and
we
need
to
accelerate
our
work
to
mitigate
climate
change
and
a
fossil
fuel
free
building
code
in
boston
to
stop
making
the
building
pollution
worse.
R
The
city
council
can
make
a
really
big
difference
by
voting
yes
on
the
home
rule
petition
today
or
next
week,
which
would
allow
boston
to
be
considered
for
the
state's
fossil
fuel
free
demonstration
project
to
protect
boston
from
the
worst
impacts
of
climate
change.
We
ask
you
to
vote
yes
on
the
homeworld
petition.
Thank
you.
I
S
I'm
also
one
of
the
co-petitioners
for
brookline's
home
rule
petition
on
the
prohibition
of
the
installation
of
new
fossil
fuel
infrastructure,
new
buildings
and
significant
renovations,
I'm
also
an
architect
focusing
on
decarbonizing
residential
buildings.
We
know
that,
in
order
to
avoid
catastrophic
climate
failure,
we
need
to
stop
using
fossil
fuels
immediately.
S
We've
been
told
by
the
most
conservative
organizations
in
the
world,
including
the
united
pcc
international
panel
on
climate
change
and
the
international
agency,
not
in
a
decade
not
in
a
few
years,
but
right
now
the
reason
that
these
home
rule
petitions
have
passed
with
unanimous
or
near
unanimous
votes
in
11
communities
to
date
with
more
in
the
pipeline
is
not
just
because
of
the
climate
consequences
of
continuing
to
build
with
fossil
fuels.
It's
also
because
building
with
fossil
fuels
is
a
fiscally
reckless
policy.
S
We
also
know
that
multi-family
housing
is
leading
the
way
in
building
electrification
in
massachusetts
and
that
affordable
housing
residents
deserve
healthy
buildings,
and
we
know
absolutely
that
lab
and
medical
facilities,
although
they
were
exempted
in
this
pilot
program,
need
to
be
held
to
the
highest
building
standards,
because
otherwise
their
impacts
risk
dooming
our
climate
goals.
We
also
know,
as
andy
just
pointed
out,
that
our
use
of
fossil
fuels
has
submitted
significant
health
impacts.
A
new
study
by
researchers
at
boston,
college,
global
observatory
and
planetary
health
has
highlighted
the
more
than
ninety
percent.
S
Five
percent
of
air
pollution.
Massachusetts
results
from
the
combustion
of
fossil
fuels,
with
building
emissions
responsible
for
responsible
for
about
a
third
of
those
emissions
and,
as
others
have
pointed
out,
we
know
that
this
figure
is
70
in
boston.
This
bc
study
found
that
air
pollution
remains
a
silent
killer
in
massachusetts,
responsible
for
almost
3
000
deaths
a
year
and
for
measurable
cognitive
loss
in
bay,
state
children
exposed
to
fine
particulate
pollutants
in
the
air
they
breed.
S
The
study
also
found
that
air
pollution-related
disease,
death
and
iq
loss
occurs
in
every
city
and
town,
regardless
of
demographic,
graphics
or
income
level,
but
the
highest
rates
were
in
the
most
economically
disadvantaged
and
socially
undeserved,
underserved
cities
and
towns.
We
also
know,
as
andy
pointed
out,
that
children
in
homes
with
gas
does
face
a
42
increased
rates
phasma,
and
we
know
that
gas
appliances
leak
dangerous
gases
such
as
nitrous
oxide
methane
and
formaldehyde,
even
when
they
are
not
in
use.
S
Lastly,
this
homeworld
petition
is
focused
on
very
low
hanging
fruit,
it's
practical,
it's
financially
advantageous
and
it's
healthier,
but
new
construction
is
only
going
to
affect
a
very
small
percentage
of
our
building
stock
in
many
communities.
Less
than
one
percent
so
as
boston
starts
thinking
about
how
to
lead
the
way
by
not
continuing
to
dig
themselves
into
a
deeper
hole,
I
also
hope
they're
starting
to
think
about
how
to
work
aggressively
on
decarbonizing
their
existing
buildings.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
T
Hi
all
thank
you,
counselors
I'll,
be
really
brief.
I
a
lot
of
what
all
of
many
of
the
counselors
and
other
testifiers
have
said.
I
really
want
to
echo
and
because
this
is
sort
of
a
short
it's
just
like,
let's
pass
the
whole
real
petition
right
now,
I
don't
have
a
ton
to
add,
except
that
I
do
really
want
to
emphasize
that.
I
I
believe
that
also
oh
yeah,
I'm
with
the
boston
climate
action
network.
T
I
also
am
with
the
boston,
clean
energy
coalition,
as
well
as
the
boston,
green
new
deal
coalition
and
the
green
justice
coalition,
and
I
am
in
favor
of
you
passing
this
homeworld
petition.
Boston
is
a
huge
environmental
justice
or
encompasses
an
enormous
number
of
environmental
justice
communities
in
the
state
of
massachusetts,
and,
as
we
have
discussed
many
times
during
this
call
and
elsewhere,
those
communities
are
most
threatened
by
climate
change
and
pollution
and,
as
others
have
mentioned,
we
really
don't
need
to
be
digging
ourselves
into
an
even
deeper
hole.
T
Betting,
new
fossil
fuel
construction
will
is
sort
of
the
most
basic
first
step
that
we
could
be
taking
to
address
this
unique
opportunity
to
genuinely
demonstrate
boston's
leadership
across
the
state
and
country.
We
need
to
be
part
of
this
demonstration
project
as
one
of
the
largest
emitters
and
environmental
justice.
Community
conglomerations
in
the
state
and
electric
construction
will
address
health
inequity,
air
pollution,
heat
island.
T
So
this
is
a
very
necessary
first
step
that
we
collectively
should
have
taken
long
ago,
but
now
that
we
have
the
opportunity
to
it
would
be
a
really
bad
opportunity
to
miss.
So
really
appreciate
all
of
the
sentiments
here
on
this
call.
I
hope
that
hope
that
we
can
pass
this
home
rule
petition
and
then
do
a
lot
more
work
to
make
sure
it
is
addressing
labor
economic
equity,
affordable
housing
once
the
actual
petition
or
once
actual
ordinance
can
be
written
thanks.
So
much
thanks.
A
U
Casey,
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
counselors.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
testify
in
support
of
the
home
rule
petition.
My
name
is
casey
bowers
and
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
environmental
league
of
massachusetts
action
fund.
We
were
strong
supporters
of
the
most
recent
climate
law
that
passed
at
the
state
house
which
allowed
for
this
pilot.
U
Many
of
the
benefits
have
been
discussed
ad
nauseam,
but
it
cannot
be
understated
the
impact
of
including
boston
in
this
pilot,
which
will
ensure
that
there
are
meaningful
results
that
solidifies
many
of
the
efforts
previously
mentioned
on
this
call,
particularly
environmental
justice.
As
councilor
laura
mentioned,
boston's
built
environment
accounts
for
nearly
70
percent
of
emissions
compared
to
only
27
of
massachusetts
as
a
whole
and
by
the
state's
own
clean
energy
and
climate
plan.
U
We
need
to
reduce
emissions
by
50
percent
for
the
built
environment
by
2030,
which
means
more
than
doubling
the
gains
in
this
decade
that
by
which
means
more
than
doubling
the
gains
in
this
decade
than
have
been
made
in
the
previous
three.
So
we
need
bold
solutions
and
having
boston
be
considered,
for
this
pilot
would
set
an
example
for
the
commonwealth,
and
I
really
appreciate
your
consideration.
A
A
V
Okay-
sorry,
yes,
so
my
name
is
michelle
brooks
I
usually
her
pronouns
and
I
work
for
the
massachusetts
chapter
of
the
sierra
club
and
am
a
member
of
the
boston,
clean
energy
coalition.
And
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
members
of
the
city
council
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
today
and
for
holding
this
hearing
and
express
our
support
for
the
homeworld
petition
for
fossil
fuel
free
buildings
in
boston
and
appreciate
all
the
the
remarks
that
have
already
been
shared
and
and
agree
with.
V
V
Some
different
studies
that
have
been
done,
including
the
built
environment
plus
study
in
2019,
that
found
that
zero
energy
buildings
are
already
being
built
today
with
zero
additional
upfront
costs
and
return
on
investments
for
new
and
existing
office.
Buildings
can
be
as
little
as
one
year.
Also.
The
study
that
was
done
by
the
city
of
boston
in
terms
of
affordable
housing
found
that
it
could
be
constructed
as
carbon
neutral.
V
We're
already
doing
this,
which
is
super,
exciting
and
discovered
that
there
is
little
to
no
cost
increase
for
zero
emission
building
standards
and
that
the
rebates
and
incentives
currently
available
could
make
the
buildings
less
expensive
to
construct
with
those
additional
long-term
operational
savings
and
then
another
economic
analysis
that
was
done
by
the
rocky
mountain
institute
that
I
just
wanted
to.
Reference
found
that
in
boston
building,
all
electric
homes
saves
an
average
of
2
700
and
up
front
costs.
V
Be
happy
to
share
that.
I'm
planning
to
submit
more
formal
written
comments
with
some
of
these
statistics
and
so
leaving
out
gas
not
only
saves
money,
but
it
lowers
climate
pollution
of
the
home
by
nearly
70
percent,
due
to
more
efficient
appliances
being
powered
by
increasingly
renewable
electricity.
V
So
by
bypassing
gas.
We're
not
only
saving
on
construction
costs,
we're
ensuring
that
we
don't
continue
to
invest
in
in
stranded
assets,
because
we
know
that
any
additional
buildings
that
we're
building
now
with
more
fossil
fuel
and
infrastructure
will
just
need
to
be
retrofitted
in
the
future
as
we
as
we
work
to
achieve
the
city's
climate
goals
towards
being
carbon
free
by
2050.
V
And
so
again,
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
and
say
that
we're
super
excited
to
see
the
city
moving
forward
on
this
and
think
that
it
can
be
a
huge
win
for
our
communities,
especially
environmental
justice
communities,
in
boston,
those
who
are
being
most
impacted
right
now
by
air
pollution.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
W
W
So
I'm
I'm
in
addition
to
asking
this
council
to
vote
favorably,
I'm
actually
reaching
out
to
advocates
from
all
10
of
those
other
communities
to
say,
let's
get
together
and
and
help
boston
be
the
leader
that
it
is
and
and
and
really
be,
the
anchor
for
the
transition
that
we
need
to
make.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
G
G
G
It's
already
been
noted
that
we
have
a
very
high
rate
of
asthma
in
our
children
in
boston.
This
is
not
a
metric.
We
want
to
be
a
leader
in
participating
in
this
demonstration.
Project
will
increase
the
efforts
that
the
city
is
already
taking
and
will
improve
indoor
and
outdoor
air
quality
for
all
of
our
residents.
G
This
will
not
only
improve
the
health
of
asthmatic
children,
but
improve
the
health
of
adults
who
struggle
with
respiratory
and
cardiovascular
conditions
and
overall
participating
in
this
will
allow
boston
to
be
a
leader
in
the
way
we
all
truly
want.
So,
thank
you
very
much
and
again,
I
am
strongly
in
support
of
this
home
rule
petition.
A
S
X
X
A
volunteer,
a
volunteer
with
mothers
out
front
jp,
and
I
also
am
in
favor
of
passing
the
homeworld
petition.
I
won't
take
up
too
much
time
repeating
all
the
others,
the
reasons
that
the
others
have
stated
about
the
urgency
here,
but
I
would
just
implore
you
all
to
pass
the
petition
for
us
and
our
kids,
I'm
also
thrilled
to
hear
and
hearing
all
of
the
continued
focus
on
a
just
transition
and
the
pushes
that
each
counselor
seems
to
be
making
toward
not
leaving
people
behind.
A
A
Let
me
just
make
sure
that
there's
no
one
else
that
we
have
waiting
to
speak.
I
think
that
maybe
everyone,
so
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
for
coming.
I
know
that
this
presents
us
a
unique
opportunity
to
really
move
forward
as
a
city
to
think
about
what
fossil
fuel
free
standards
look
like,
so
that
we
can
participate
in
this
pilot
program
and
work
with
our
partners
on
an
environmental
justice,
community
economic
justice,
folks
in
the
trades
to
really
think
about
the
the
city
that
we
want
to
build.
A
That's
addressing
and
centering
climate
justice
so
that
we
can
mitigate
some
of
the
problems
caused
already
by
fossil
our
dependency
on
fossil
fuels
and
think
about
how
we
can
work
collaboratively
and
creatively
to
divorce
ourselves
from
the
use
of
fossil
fuels.
And
so
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity.
So
I
think
all
of
my
colleagues,
the
members
of
the
administration
and
the
public
for
attending
this
hearing
and
for
being
for
your
vibrant
participation.
A
I
want
to
thank
the
sponsor
here,
who
is
mayor.
Michelle
wu
for
submitting
this
docket
written
comments,
which
we've
already
received
in
droves,
will
continue
to
be
accepted
for
the
next
48
hours
after
this
hearing,
and
you
can
send
any
comments
or
any
additional
research
to
committee
email
at
ccc.goadboston.gov.
A
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